Luka Doncic is a Laker, Most Stunning Trades of All Time & a Super Bowl LIX Preview

Speaker 1 I was having a moment with the wife, and then I go, babe, Luca Donchas just got traded to Lakers. I need to look at my phone.
She's like, who? I said, Luca Donchas. I said, this is a massive deal.

Speaker 1 And she goes, more important than like having a baby. I said, honestly, it is right up there, like right now with the news.

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Speaker 1 Where are we going? We're going to Nola, baby. We're going to New Orleans for the Super Bowl.
Throwbacks. Has it set in?

Speaker 2 Has it set in that we are going to Super Bowl 59?

Speaker 1 Okay, we're going to be live.

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This might be the best Fnatics lineup for Fnatics Fest yet. Okay.

Speaker 1 Well, by the way, I need to get to one of these. 2024, last year, they had over 70,000 fans reading all this.
That's crazy.

Speaker 1 More event space.

Speaker 1 Collector experience, which I'm a fan of, and I'm going to get you into that. I know you're going to get into that a little bit.

Speaker 2 Give me the initial lineup that we have, who we initially know is going to be Sean.

Speaker 1 We got Jaden Daniels, we got jamar chase tyreek hill uh micah parsons devante adams tom brady's gonna make an appearance peyton manning and the sheriff

Speaker 1 can't wait i mean that's yeah they're there if you if you go online and you look at like just who showed up last year it's just a who's who you have musicians athletes anyone that's just kind of one a part of fanatics but also just into collecting and cards and all that kind of stuff.

Speaker 1 It's it's awesome, man. So yeah, I mean, fired up.

Speaker 2 Yep. Javit Center in New York City, June 20th to the 22nd.

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Speaker 1 Let me ask you a question, Jerry. We're obviously, you know, we're doing the red carpet this weekend, which is fired up, and I'm sure we'll talk more about that in a second.

Speaker 1 What are you looking forward to most? of the Super Bowl this week. Outside of the red carpet, just anything.
When you go to the Super Bowl, what are you looking forward to the most?

Speaker 2 i was excited for a lot of things

Speaker 2 can i just say right currently right now i'm excited to just get there the ferraras are limping along in 2025 we started off the year great went to the bahamas right after new year's the minute we got back

Speaker 2 every kid has been sick and I've basically been like the only one who hasn't gotten hit yet. But currently in the Ferrara household, one kid went down Saturday with that awful stomach virus.

Speaker 2 If you're a parent out there, you know when that stomach thing hits. Then the next kid went down.
And now currently my wife is down. And I'm just walking around like the CIA has a hit out on me.

Speaker 1 I'm just

Speaker 1 the plague.

Speaker 1 It just comes from, isn't that the worst? It's actually when you know you're the first person in your family gets hit.

Speaker 1 you know it's just circulating so then i'm at like i i'm always i always tell my wife i'm like i just want to be next just give it to me now so i can get away the fact that the fact that you're dodging it you're just dodging strays right now.

Speaker 1 I don't know how that's a completely different thing. You're thrown up on

Speaker 2 three in the morning. When I say it was like,

Speaker 2 I got thrown up in my hair, my face, it hit me everywhere.

Speaker 2 So basically, I'm like walking dead.

Speaker 2 I know I'm going to turn into a zombie. I just don't know when.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 Bree's not feeling good.

Speaker 2 Bree is out for the count. I just brought her some water.
She's like, I can't even drink that, but I ordered us some IVs. I think we need an IV sponsorship.
IVs are coming.

Speaker 1 Dude, I got got to get to that. I got to get to this red carpet.
By the way, I got, I got to, even if we hook you up to a freaking IV Saturday, you're going to be there with me.

Speaker 2 What if I do an IV on the red carpet with that freak people out?

Speaker 1 By the way, you do an IV on the red carpet with those shoes you got right behind you, a New York Knicks jersey, and a hat.

Speaker 1 Fuck, bro. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 2 I see you with your Lakers shirt. We are going to talk.

Speaker 1 We have to talk. It is a watch.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Wow.
It just has to happen.

Speaker 2 We're going to hit all that. And obviously, we're going going to talk about the actual Super Bowl and the game itself.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Last thing on the kid front, I had a little bit of an embarrassing moment.
So both the kids are healed up and went back to school for the first time in days.

Speaker 2 I have a five-year-old, three-year-old. The three-year-old, my five-year-old loves to go to school.
He was mad. He had to stay home sick, which is unheard of.

Speaker 2 Three-year-old now knows like, hey, if I'm sick, I stay home from school. He's developed a fake cough.
It's a horrible performance from the son of two actors. You'd think he would know how to.

Speaker 2 I'm like, buddy, you're not fooling anyone.

Speaker 1 The fake stomach ache.

Speaker 2 He said he had to stay home because he swallowed a penny. So Green and I yesterday had to conduct a full investigation to make sure this kid didn't swallow a penny.

Speaker 2 But finally, we get to school today. I had to walk them in because we're late, of course.
That's what happens. Five-year-old runs in and a little three-year-old's over there smiling.

Speaker 2 And he whispers, he goes, dad.

Speaker 2 I brought so many toys with me.

Speaker 1 I went, what?

Speaker 2 You can't have toys in school. I'm like, where are they? I have to take his jacket off.
I pat him down like he's under arrest. Buzz Lightyear, Lightning McQueen.

Speaker 2 He had four Matchbox cars in his pockets. Just in his pockets.

Speaker 2 Loaded up. So he's the one.
He's the one that is going to be the kid who tries to like drop out of school in first grade.

Speaker 1 That sounds like me when I was little, when I was super fat, I used to hide popsicles

Speaker 1 in my pockets.

Speaker 1 Popsicle? I used to, not to school, but I used to put them in my pockets. And

Speaker 1 I hear him, dude. I'm a fan.
I mean, I used to put popsicles in my pockets, run outside, eat them really fast, put the trash back in my pocket, and then throw. I was probably

Speaker 1 nine, eight.

Speaker 2 This was when you were fat liner, fat liner?

Speaker 1 Oh, this one I was fat matt, dude.

Speaker 2 Fat mat. I love that we both have a history of

Speaker 1 being bigger. You isn't it funny?

Speaker 1 It's funny that

Speaker 1 these three and five, both ages are just so fun because

Speaker 1 our little ones are the same, just like sneaky, kind of just like Cannon will just will literally take his Hot Wheels to school too. He'll take a Nerf gun.

Speaker 1 I said, bro, we can't take Nerf guns to school, dude. Do not do that.
We cannot take Nerf guns. But, Daddy, it's not real.
It's like a Nerf gun. I'm like, yeah, we can't do that.

Speaker 1 But yeah, man, it's fun. I'm sorry you guys are going through that, dude.
That is hell. It's, it's just going to be, yeah, you just don't know when it's going to happen.

Speaker 1 It's just going to hit you at some point. Hopefully it doesn't.
Hopefully I get 100% of Jerry this weekend in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 I can't make you go. So imagine if you just get like, I go down right before the Fanatics party and you have to be solo on the carpet.

Speaker 1 Listen, man.

Speaker 2 Do you try to find a replacement or do you go solo?

Speaker 1 I can't replace you. I just go solo.
I'll just take, I'll, listen, you get, if that happens, I will, I will be there. I will rock you.
I feel like you got to bring Karin in or so.

Speaker 2 We have some people I feel like it could fill in.

Speaker 1 Maybe I'll, yeah, I'll just get, I'll just pull someone from the red carpet and be like, dude, you want to do this with me?

Speaker 2 Maybe that'll be a giveaway too. Hey, you could co-host the throwbacks from the red carpet if at that point,

Speaker 1 I'll just be taking questions from like X or something and just be like, Hey, what do you guys want me to ask? Uh, you know, Gronk and Julian, you know, whatever. So, you're gonna be good, dude.

Speaker 1 We're gonna make it.

Speaker 2 I see you with your Lakers shirt.

Speaker 1 Okay,

Speaker 2 I know everybody and their mother has commented on this trade, but we haven't yet because we air on Thursdays. And as we're airing this now, the trade deadline is coming.

Speaker 2 It's Thursday, so we don't know what has happened just yet if there's going to be more. But as of right now, how did you get the news and how did you feel first reaction right away?

Speaker 1 Well,

Speaker 1 I was late. I was, what was I doing?

Speaker 2 I was about 9.20. Low.

Speaker 1 For me, it was like almost 20 years. So I was,

Speaker 1 there's a lot going on in the Liner house over the past week. Okay.
And I'm going to save it. I'm going to save it for next week.
But I was having a moment with the wife.

Speaker 1 I didn't have my phone for about, you know, I'm guilty. I have my phone on me a lot.
You know, it's one of the things of 2025.

Speaker 1 I'm like, you know, just, especially when I'm with my, all my kids and whatever, like put it away for a little bit. But I didn't have it.
We were having a moment.

Speaker 1 We're talking about, you know, just getting ready, obviously getting ready to have a baby and all of these types of things. And

Speaker 1 like about 30 minutes after we're talking, I just looked at my phone and I had like 35 text messages

Speaker 1 from all my, as you can imagine, like all my boys. Luca to the Lakers.
I'm like, I was, I had the same, I had the same reactions as everybody else. I'm like, I literally was like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 Like for AD, like, it just was bizarre. So then, and then I'm like, and then I go,

Speaker 1 Luca Donchas just got traded to Lakers. I need to, I need to look at my phone.
She's like, who? I said, Luca Donchas. I said, this is a massive deal.
This is huge. And she goes,

Speaker 1 more important than like having a baby. I said, honestly, it is right up there, like right now with the news.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 It was hysterical.

Speaker 1 So that's how I got it. And then like anybody else, I just opened up the article, started reading.

Speaker 1 And at that point, it was just like, you know, Luca traded to, you know, LA for Anthony Davis and Christie and a pick and all that kind of stuff. So there wasn't a lot of detail behind it.

Speaker 1 So like you and everybody else, I was just like, what, why, how,

Speaker 1 what was this about? And then after, you know, the last couple of days,

Speaker 1 I still can't wrap my head around it. Like I still, you know, I still, there's a lot of conspiracy theories out there, reasons why and all this stuff.
But I will say this. I love AD.

Speaker 1 He won us a championship in 2020. He's a beast.
I know there's been injuries of, or, you know, injuries and all that kind of stuff. He's been having a great year.
He's unbelievable this year.

Speaker 1 I will miss AD. I was always an AD fan.
There's a lot of AD haters out there. I thought he was fantastic.
But Luka Donches to the Lakers for the next 10 years.

Speaker 1 It's unbelievable.

Speaker 2 So, yeah, I've been in the middle of the day.

Speaker 1 You've been salty this week, by the way. You've just been salty.

Speaker 1 Maybe that's because you got a little, you just salty on X about Lakers maybe going after Mitchell Robinson and I love that this is so stupid.

Speaker 2 It's so stupid and you're blaming

Speaker 1 like it's always like the rich get richer, right? Like the how do you know it's not the rich get richer.

Speaker 2 It's the people on X don't watch anything else but their other team like and I get it.

Speaker 2 You don't have maybe time to watch or follow along what's going on with Mitchell Robinson been hurt a lot too, dude.

Speaker 1 And you've been you've been defending him like, well, we better get a lot for him. I said, what do you

Speaker 2 say we better get a lot? I know what I'm saying. I'm saying we also need a center.

Speaker 2 So you have two teams who are now without a big man that they very much, although I have no problems with Jackson Hayes right now, who is healthy, which is one of the best available things.

Speaker 2 But everyone on Twitter, when the report came out, the Lakers are

Speaker 2 the thing that made me so salty, X got a little bit ridiculous. I mean, X is a ridiculous thing in general, but with the like, oh, the Lakers are targeting Mitchell Robinson.

Speaker 2 The Golden State Warriors targeted everybody in the entire NBA, past and present. They were connected to everyone.
They're not going to get anyone. Who knows? Maybe they get Durant.

Speaker 2 But Laker fans go, oh, we're going after Mitchell Robinson now. I'm like, first of all, you guys don't have anything left.
Your cupboard is bare. You have one.

Speaker 1 No, we have.

Speaker 1 But

Speaker 2 you're not going to give that for Mitchell Robinson. I wouldn't expect you to give the 2031 first-round pick for a player who's always hurt.
So that's not happening.

Speaker 2 Are you going to give us Jackson Hayes back? Because we need a center, too.

Speaker 1 The only person.

Speaker 2 He's been in the center market before you guys were in the center market.

Speaker 1 Is now our friend of throwbacks, Austin Reeves. And I don't want to get rid of Austin Reeves, but a lot of teams would take.

Speaker 2 Imagine if Austin Reeves went to the Knicks.

Speaker 1 But would you do?

Speaker 2 You wouldn't trade. By the way, you wouldn't trade Austin Reeves for Mitchell Robinson either.
So

Speaker 2 it just was a dumb thing.

Speaker 1 It's people who read the headline, don't pay attention. I don't think the rich get richer.
I'm still,

Speaker 1 there's actually, there's been a lot of interesting conspiracies on why this happened. D.
Wade actually had the interesting one. I'm sure you said that about the, he, he, he basically said that

Speaker 1 because of the nba and obviously the it's down right the ratings and all this kind of stuff his thought was

Speaker 2 the own this came above the first d wade said this how did i miss this i love that

Speaker 1 look it up right now this kid or andrew put the article uh put the article in the chat we can open it up

Speaker 1 this came above the gm in my opinion i don't think a smart gm what's the gm's name i'm blanking uh nico harrison okay nico harrison you're trying to tell me that that general manager did that deal and be like, we're not getting enough back.

Speaker 1 It's okay. Like that came for me, I feel like that came from above him and said, this is happening.
We're going to do it. It has to.
It has to. It has to.
No, best ownership.

Speaker 1 D-Wade talked about the TV and the billion-dollar TV deal and how the NBA ratings have been bad and this and that.

Speaker 1 And in his way, what basically wasn't surprised if the billionaires came together and just said,

Speaker 1 let's trade Luca to LA,

Speaker 1 outside of New York, the biggest market to the Lakers, the most storied program, maybe in NBA history. Jersey sales, ticket sales, exposure to Europe and Spain.
Read the article.

Speaker 1 You can read it right now.

Speaker 1 The quote was actually fairly interesting. I'm not saying that's the reason why, but why?

Speaker 1 You mean to tell me that you think the guy just led the Dallas Mavericks to the NBA finals a year ago? I don't care if he weighs 270 or 290.

Speaker 1 I think Shaq came out this week and said him at 270 is better than 99.9% of every guard in the NBA.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he's like 6'9, too. So they're like something.

Speaker 2 He's 6'1 ⁇ , 270.

Speaker 2 He's 6'9.

Speaker 1 There's something behind it. I think everybody feels the same.
Why is the question?

Speaker 2 I don't buy that because

Speaker 1 I wouldn't necessarily buy it either.

Speaker 2 I guess the moral of the story is maybe they're final, finally. We have LeBron Fatigue.
Because if you look at the Lakers, it's not like the Lakers don't have two superstars and aren't must-see TV.

Speaker 2 They have LeBron friggin' James and Anthony Davis. Do they need to be better? Do the Lakers need to be better?

Speaker 2 Meaning, is it better if the Lakers are in the Western Conference finals, not getting bounced in the first round every year since the bubble? Yeah, that would be better.

Speaker 2 They've just, because the regular season for the Lakers has been so unsuccessful, whether it's health or LeBron getting up there in age, they keep getting in the play-in game.

Speaker 2 Then they run into the nuggets in the first round when they're playing, you know, the Picasso of centers of all time in Jokic.

Speaker 2 So I just don't, unless you're saying to me, hey, even the Lakers' numbers are down. LeBron's not drawing an audience.
So let's put Luca there.

Speaker 2 But I can't get around that because maybe it is better for overall business. But if you own the Mavericks,

Speaker 2 I know you want the league to be healthy and the TV deal is good for everyone, but you want this to be a good thing.

Speaker 1 Read this article, and it's interesting because the owners are different dudes, whatever.

Speaker 1 My question, and this is what's been talked about all week, and you've heard Giannis, you've heard Booker. You've heard

Speaker 1 man.

Speaker 1 This is, this is, I don't think, by the way, it's smart by the NBA. Like, that's all people are talking about right now and the Super Bowl's coming up.

Speaker 1 I've never, and I'm, I love, I, the NBA trade deadline is awesome. I love it every year.
I think it's just like, you just wake up and you're like, oh my God, this is happening. This is happening.

Speaker 1 This year just feels different. And the biggest question, Jerry, is who's safe, who's not? Like that, that to me is the biggest thing is it feels like anybody now at any moment.

Speaker 1 Now, Jokic isn't getting traded, you know, this year, whatever. But isn't that bizarre? Like anybody

Speaker 1 is free game.

Speaker 2 It really poked a hole in my NFL needs to have a lottery on this weekend because there's nothing else to do because the NBA didn't even wait for the trade deadline.

Speaker 2 Maybe you could get me on that conspiracy too of like, hey, we're not even going to wait for the trade deadline. Let's do it now and own the weekend.

Speaker 2 I don't really subscribe to any of this conspiracy stuff. I really don't.

Speaker 2 Going even back to Patrick Ewing's frozen envelope theory, like, sure, today's day, there's too many people talking with too many outlets to hold any secrets if there ever was any of that stuff.

Speaker 1 Luka Doncich to the Lakers was a secret.

Speaker 2 It was a secret because they didn't talk to other teams. That's what.

Speaker 1 Well, if they would have went out, so this is part of how I'll be able to move a superstar like that without anybody knowing. I don't care if you didn't talk to anybody.

Speaker 1 I'm telling you, that's just never been, that's never been heard of.

Speaker 2 Well, if you're the Lakers, you're not going to talk because, you know,

Speaker 2 if you leak it, you could screw it. Dallas certainly isn't going to talk.
So

Speaker 2 I actually like the trade for Dallas. I do too.

Speaker 2 But the problem is they should have just gotten more from the Lakers.

Speaker 2 I don't really even care.

Speaker 2 I feel for the Dallas fans, by the way.

Speaker 2 I really, really do. I will be rooting for Dallas in the West just because I feel for those fans because I know that's such a connection to Luca.

Speaker 2 And if Jaden Burnson got traded, I would feel horrible too. So I'm rooting for the Maps.
But go around the NBA, Matt. And I've tried.
Like,

Speaker 1 what package

Speaker 2 out there will any of these other teams have that you could say is better than

Speaker 2 what the Lakers could have, should have given? Because the Lakers should have also given the 2031 and like Dalton Connect. Like the package should have been bigger from the Lakers.

Speaker 2 But in terms of AD, Christie, and a first, AD is worth, what, at least three unprotected firsts.

Speaker 1 That's the reason why this came above the general manager because I don't think any sane general manager would do that deal without getting more in return. Right.

Speaker 1 The GM has a relationship with AD clearly, and I think he loves AD. And when AD is healthy, he's arguably a top five player in the league, like best two-way big, like he's phenomenal.

Speaker 2 I'm with him. But go down the NBA.
No, I get it. Has a package.
Are you going to call like New Orleans and get Zion and five unprotected firsts? No. No.

Speaker 2 Are you going to go to Miami and get four unprotected firsts and Jimmy Butler? No. The Brooklyn Nets only have picks.

Speaker 1 You could have probably put something together for Durant. I mean, you could have put something together to package a couple players.
All right, but I love Durant.

Speaker 2 I love Kevin Durant. He's 36.
Like, how, like, how many of them are.

Speaker 1 How about he's 31, 32? I get it. I'm just letting you, I'm sure if they would have called other teams and other teams who were.

Speaker 2 And what else does Phoenix have besides Durant? They don't have picks. They're out of picks.

Speaker 2 They don't have, like, so is that a better package than what the Lakers got? What I think Dallas did was say, we don't want five mid to late first round picks.

Speaker 2 Because if you trade Luca to a team, odds are that team's going to win 48 to 50 games by accident. So we don't want five first-round picks.

Speaker 2 They're going to end up being 23 overall for the next five years. And they wanted a player.
They wanted a top 10 player and a pick. I'm very high on Max Christie.
He destroyed the Knicks Saturday.

Speaker 1 He's a good player.

Speaker 2 And he was really good the other night in Philly, even though they didn't win the game. So they just should have gotten more from the Lakers.

Speaker 1 That's the bottom line. Can you imagine?

Speaker 1 I know Rob Palinka fairly well when I see him.

Speaker 1 His kids played my fly football league.

Speaker 2 He's already dressing like a bad guy.

Speaker 1 I mean, I'm not texting with them, obviously, but can you imagine? being Rob Palenka and getting that call. I think there was an article that came out and said, hey,

Speaker 1 we're going to shop Luca.

Speaker 1 are you interested however went and rob's probably stop stop breaking my balls yeah what do you want what do you let's talk oh we want ad max christie and maybe one of your firsts he goes he goes he goes are you serious and this is the thing i love i love the trade for both teams in the sense for dallas that roster in my opinion i love dallas because i love luca i love kyrie and let's see if they're done they may not be done they might not be done imagine what if they get durant that team

Speaker 1 even the team now with Kyrie and P.J. Washington and all the size they have and AD, if healthy, that Clay, that team can win a championship right now.
Stafford.

Speaker 1 That team can win a championship right now.

Speaker 1 The Lakers,

Speaker 1 you know, we're going to find out if they get a center, obviously.

Speaker 1 They need size. Jackson Hayes might be okay now given an opportunity, but they need somebody.

Speaker 1 Lakers got better in their way, but they also just got better for the next 10 years. That's assuming Luca resigns.

Speaker 1 There's a lot that has to happen, but I love the move because it was the first time now that they're thinking

Speaker 1 outside of LeBron and they're thinking for what's best with the future. And LeBron even said that this week, too.
As a Laker fan, I love it. Luca's must-see TV.

Speaker 1 He's a hell of a player, and he's only 25 years old, which is been.

Speaker 2 Well, in honor of this, our throwback three this week is going to be stunning trades. So that'll be our throwback three.
You and I will list off. I almost want to take this one out because,

Speaker 2 number one, it was

Speaker 2 probably the number one, but also in the generation we're in now, where we could talk about it to thousands of people via Twitter and Instagram and all that.

Speaker 2 It's definitely the most talked about trade I've ever seen. A couple of things for Luca that's going to be interesting.
Number one, obviously the fit with LeBron.

Speaker 2 I know a lot of people have been like, it's going to be awesome. Some people have said it's going to suck because they both need the ball.

Speaker 2 You have two of the smartest IQ basketball players of all time. Yes, defense might not be as good.

Speaker 1 They said that about Kyrie and Luca, too, and look what happened. Two ball-dominant guards.

Speaker 2 But they would feel like not lost in all this. I like what my boy Chandler Parsons was putting out there.
I don't know because he obviously knows the Mavericks organization well from back in the day.

Speaker 2 It really did not seem like Luca

Speaker 2 knew and was like saying, hey, I'm not. Luca in his own interview said, never said, I'm not signing the Supermax.

Speaker 1 This just happened.

Speaker 2 Bought the house, but then also he loses out in the Supermax. And then you know this.
I didn't even know. Then you get that

Speaker 2 California state tax. Ooh, so he really got hit.

Speaker 1 Jerry.

Speaker 2 Matt, if I took away, he lost $100 million, though. I know he's not going to be a good one.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but he still gained $300 million. You're good, dude.

Speaker 2 You're good. Listen, small thought.

Speaker 1 You're good.

Speaker 2 Here's what I'm talking about for Luca to me. Everyone's like, oh, maybe this will motivate him.
Luca does not need to be motivated on the court. When that dude's playing, he's a beast.

Speaker 2 He's super competitive. he's talking to everybody he took the mavs to the finals can't wait for lakers mavs playoffs

Speaker 1 i do think this could motivate him for the off the court stuff and who better to be there than the guy who spends like 1.5 mil he's gonna put luca in a hyperbaric chamber by the way lebron is luca's idol that this is it is the perfect as a laker fan it is perfect because luca's idol lebron and it was kobe kobe was, he even talked about Kobe in the press conference.

Speaker 1 Yep. He's going to be around maybe the greatest to ever play, right? Top two or three, who takes care of his body, all the things that you talked about.

Speaker 1 And maybe he can just instill some of that wisdom and advice. And this is how you can do it, man, for the next 15 years.

Speaker 1 And you could be a Laker and you can be one of the greatest Lakers to ever play.

Speaker 2 And you guys got Maxie Klebra. You guys got Maxie Klebra, too.

Speaker 1 Dude, I cannot believe the Lakers are fucking Luca Dauntres now. Holy shit.

Speaker 2 You're getting that 77 jersey. Will you get it for the kids or are you going to rock the 77 jersey? Because I know how you feel about that jersey stuff.

Speaker 1 Listen,

Speaker 1 I have my old school Kobe jersey. You know, I don't cheat on Kobe.
Well, I got a sign, Kobe, that says to Matt. I got mama mentality, but

Speaker 1 I might have to get me a Luca jersey. There's no doubt.
There's no doubt. That'll be my pajamas.

Speaker 2 We're going to talk NFL.

Speaker 1 God, what a week. In a minute.
It's going to be a Lakers.

Speaker 2 NFL is coming up, but now it's time for dynamic duos presented by Wendy's. Two faves for just seven bucks.
Got to be Wendy's. Terms apply.
Each week, Matt and I throw at throwbacks.

Speaker 2 We pick a category for our all-time favorite duo. We've done, you know, Golden Globe hosts.
We've done a lot of, last week we did TV parents.

Speaker 2 This week, because it's the Lakers and we're all talking about it, we're going to go our all-time Lakers duo in dynamic duos.

Speaker 2 I'm going to clear the floor for you because I have a few candidates here, but I feel like yours is the one that matters because you're a bigger fan. Although

Speaker 1 LA LA for 20 years, I've been around the Lakers. This is not even, as a Laker fan,

Speaker 1 my dad would disagree because

Speaker 1 my dad would be more old school. That's for sure.

Speaker 1 Let me just set the table really quick.

Speaker 1 Outside of the Celtics,

Speaker 1 I wouldn't even, maybe that, maybe the Knicks, maybe the Knicks. When you look at the Lakers and you look at this and you go back and you just say duos or players,

Speaker 1 it is unbelievable the amount of Hall of Famers and just some greatest of all time. If you go top 25 greatest NBA players of all time,

Speaker 1 put LeBron in that list, right? If you consider him a Laker, all that. Luca,

Speaker 1 again, obviously nowadays these guys bounce around.

Speaker 1 They probably have 10 dudes.

Speaker 2 It supports what D-Way was saying. They always have the guy.

Speaker 1 They always have it.

Speaker 1 So my point is when you do some of this and you can talk about like jerry west and baylor and uh

Speaker 1 wilt chamberlain back in the day that's way before my time and not enough rings in my opinion not enough rings it's it's it's kobe and check

Speaker 1 you would probably agree considering we are in the same era of watching basketball arguably the greatest duo of all time jordan pippin is the one arguably and i was looking this up i remember clear as day like the early 2000s the

Speaker 1 the last major sports team, the three-peat. The Chiefs going for that this weekend.
The most dominant player of all time in Shaquille O'Neal.

Speaker 1 In my opinion, 1A, 1B to Jordan Kobe Bryant.

Speaker 1 I think he's more in the argument than LeBron is the greatest player of all time.

Speaker 2 And I do have an episode on that one day.

Speaker 1 I like that.

Speaker 2 We'll do an episode on that.

Speaker 1 I don't know. I look at it.
The whole goat talk is another thing.

Speaker 1 And honestly, it's your personal opinion.

Speaker 1 I think it's so old and all that. LeBron is great.
LeBron, maybe the greatest athlete of all time, like what he's been able to do. Tom Brady, I was like, Tom Brady played at 45 in the NFL.

Speaker 1 It's like ridiculous. I'm just saying the closest thing to Jordan is Kobe Brown.

Speaker 1 It's not even close. It's the type of game, the killer, all of that.

Speaker 1 Anyway, I was, I was, I remember a lot of this clear as day because I was 18, 19 years old, diehard Laker fan, watched every playoff game and they won the three-peat.

Speaker 1 And then I started thinking like, man, what if right that was the whole thing and that's what shaq would say now and and obviously kobe's not with us anymore which is just still unfathomable to even think that happened

Speaker 1 um the the riff and the feud and all the little things that happened and i was looking it up and phil jackson got like find them because they were talking to each other there was just so many different things i'm like man if they would have put their egos aside they probably i mean that's one of those things there wasn't an if it was like they would have won two or three they probably get six they probably get five or they definitely get five or six they would definitely get they would definitely get one or two more and they won three and then i mean kobe got to five without shaq so and shaq got the easily shaq got to one with d-wade in miami so to me they're they're maybe the greatest duo of all time they're the most dominant player of all time arguably the greatest of all time in the conversation of the top three in my opinion and

Speaker 1 Yeah, I mean, when I think of Lakers,

Speaker 1 I do think of Magic and Kareem. I think that's the other one.

Speaker 2 They got five of them things.

Speaker 1 They're ridiculous, but it's Coping Shaq, man. It is Cobing.

Speaker 2 I agree. So I'm not going to really one up.
All I'll say is, though,

Speaker 2 a very important one that came along that does almost feel similar to this, although he was not nearly as good or famous like box office globally as Luca.

Speaker 1 The Lakers getting pal.

Speaker 2 Another player no one knew was available. No one, the trade happened.

Speaker 1 And GMs were like, wait a minute gasol's what do you mean like what happened i know what when shaq left we were miserable i i remember those teams three or four years just miserable you had we drafted chris mim was a starting center then no disrespect to anybody but we just didn't have any players and in the shaq trade we got um

Speaker 1 We got Lamar Odom. We got a couple guys, but we just like, it just never materialized.
And it was just Kobe.

Speaker 1 I think he got to the playoffs a couple of times, but we were just weren't very good. And that was when we lost, I think we lost to Phoenix Suns in that, because I was in Arizona.

Speaker 1 I remember, I think we lost to Phoenix when they had the, they were running and gunning. They had Marion and Amari Stademire and Steve Nash.
But then we got Powell.

Speaker 1 And I remember Kobe was like, Kobe needed a big because that was the whole triangle offense and they needed a big.

Speaker 1 And Powell, gosh, I mean, Hall of Famer, more, one of the more underrated players of all time. Like, Powell was unbelievable.
Unbelievable. Perfectly.
Perfect player for Kobe. Perfect player.
Kobe.

Speaker 1 And then they had the right characters around them. You had the right pieces around them.
And they won, yeah, what, two more? Two more. Rick Fox, yeah.

Speaker 2 Odom, big Odom.

Speaker 1 So you got Shaq and Kobe.

Speaker 2 I do, only because I witnessed it, but I, you know. Magic and Kareem.
I started, I'm a little older than you, so I do remember the very, very tail end of

Speaker 2 magic and Kareem and Showtime.

Speaker 2 But the first real finals that I watched where I was like so dialed in was Lakers Bulls with magic and no Kareem. So, you know,

Speaker 1 my dad always says that.

Speaker 2 Did your dad say magic and Kareem?

Speaker 1 Oh, for sure. Just like he'd say Muhammad Ali.

Speaker 2 And you'd probably be right in a lot of time.

Speaker 1 Muhammad Ali is the great. But

Speaker 1 we would always say this. I said,

Speaker 1 this whole conversation, I said, Pop, Magic, you think Magic's going to guard Kobe? Magic can't guard Kobe. And he's like, you think Kobe could guard Magic?

Speaker 2 Magic's 6'9. He'll post him up.

Speaker 1 I said, okay. Well, Kobe's 6'6.
And then I said, you think, I said, you think Shaq, you think Kareem is going to be able to, you know, box out Shaq? Shaq is going to dunk all.

Speaker 1 He's like, you think, you think Shaq's going to block Kareem's house? Skyhook. What is he going to do?

Speaker 2 It's like Skyhook. That's a great conversation.

Speaker 1 I said, Pop. I said, Kareem,

Speaker 1 you could put Kareem as the greatest player of all time, too. I mean, he was the points.
Like, Kareem is unbelievable, right?

Speaker 1 And the sky hook was unblockable, but Kareem was 7-2, 7-1,

Speaker 1 200 pounds. Shaq was 7-1, 320 pounds.
And in his prime, like you can't stop him. You could not stop him.
And you can't tell me Kareem was keeping him out of the low post.

Speaker 1 No, no one was.

Speaker 2 Well, so, anyway. Shout outs to Wendy's.
That's our dynamic duo.

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Speaker 1 this is just a Lakers episode.

Speaker 2 Well,

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Speaker 1 All right, we're back.

Speaker 2 We actually got into a little bit of a heated podcast discussion off the air. We did the podcast before the podcast.
So we're just going to bring you up to speed before we dive in on the Super Bowl.

Speaker 1 We were talking about the calls and

Speaker 2 the Chiefs, obviously, people believe that they get calls.

Speaker 2 I thought I am not for like shock journalism. Like those dudes who got into the press conference and asked Kelsey, would you rather? That's just, look, some people love that stuff.

Speaker 2 That stuff goes viral. Everyone saw it.
And then, even asking, like, Mahomes, like, I, to me, that doesn't do it for me. That's not the shit I want to see.

Speaker 2 I, I see it on my timeline, and it no, those guys should be banned.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that was that was all BS. That was all crazbate.
Yeah, it's stupid.

Speaker 2 Um, but, um, and then we were talking to our esteemed producer, Andrew Gunling, who's a big Eagles fan.

Speaker 2 Uh, we were talking about the Chiefs and the calls, and then that the previous Super Bowl came up with the holding call on Bradbury against Juju.

Speaker 2 Was that not holding that liner? Those of you listening or watching, pull up the play on YouTube.

Speaker 2 It was like a clear holding.

Speaker 1 But that wasn't called all game. And there's holding calls.

Speaker 1 My thing is refs miss calls all the time and they make calls. It happens throughout a game.
It's sports.

Speaker 1 Being a ref is nearly impossible to get the right call every time.

Speaker 2 But you think the Chiefs are on the battlefield.

Speaker 1 But look at the spot with Josh Allen. I thought that was a clear first down.

Speaker 1 A clear first down, even after replay.

Speaker 1 I think the argument is that it feels like they get a lot of calls in the most opportune times needed.

Speaker 1 End of games,

Speaker 1 whether another team, Josh Allen, that one is a perfect example.

Speaker 1 I've been in enough sporting events live. You certainly have.
You certainly have.

Speaker 1 I've been on the sidelines. I've seen good calls.
I've seen bad calls.

Speaker 1 I'm always the one that said,

Speaker 1 bills did enough to win that game. Don't do the tush push 19 times and not get it.

Speaker 1 So I'm always on the other side.

Speaker 2 Like, do they get a little favoritism?

Speaker 1 Eh, maybe. Maybe they get.
Maybe Tom Brady got a lot of calls in his day.

Speaker 1 MJ got a lot of calls. Great.
Greatness gets calls. I think that's

Speaker 1 the benefit of the doubt. So is there something like that going on?

Speaker 1 Maybe here and there.

Speaker 1 But to say that they're getting these calls and it's every week, I don't buy it. I'm not on that wagon.
I think the Chiefs, and they proved it again in clutch time. We talked about it last week.

Speaker 1 They have the two,

Speaker 1 maybe the two greatest in-game play callers on both sides of the ball that we've seen. They have one of the best players to ever do it, and they find ways to win all the time.
So I'm not in that.

Speaker 1 I just, I do think it's going to be interesting to see again in this Super Bowl if there's a couple questionable calls that go their way.

Speaker 2 Yeah, because so let's let's put a theory together.

Speaker 2 If we're saying, not when if we're pretend saying that the NFL would really like for the Chiefs to be in the Super Bowl for whatever ratings, Taylor Swift, whatever, if we're saying all that and they always get the benefit of the doubt, all right, the Chiefs are here now.

Speaker 2 They're in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Do they actually want the Chiefs to win?

Speaker 2 Will they go as far as to say, like, we want the game?

Speaker 1 I think they want a close game. That's all really anyone can say.

Speaker 2 If you go back to the Bradbury hold on Juju, and we were talking to Andrew about this on our quick break, yes, it was a clear holding. No, there hasn't been any holding calls up until that point.

Speaker 2 But if you go back and watch, I watched a few moments from it because that play is pretty iconic.

Speaker 2 There wasn't tons of intended receivers where the ball went to them and it was like, oh, there was a clear holding, and they just didn't call it.

Speaker 2 I'm sure there's holding going on off the ball every single play that's not getting called.

Speaker 1 But in that moment, you're saying, How did you call it? It's in front of the world.

Speaker 1 we saw where the ball went okay but do you know how holding is holding amongst offensive line defensive line db all day long it's all day long so when you don't call it all game and it's not super blatant that's that's the thing it's like is it a blatant hold when it's slowed down and in your face i mean you could call that 57 times a game dude if we just slow-mode every damn hold right but in that moment a little a little pickpocket a little hold a little tug on the jersey and then you play in In that moment, it's like, how could you call that in that moment when you haven't called it all game?

Speaker 1 That is a serious argument. That's on all, by the way, that's probably when the Chiefs

Speaker 1 teams call, teams put in plays, they send plays to the league office every week. Yep.

Speaker 1 Missed penalties or. targeting or whatever, whatever it is.
They send and say, this is BS. This didn't happen.
And they basically fight some of those things.

Speaker 1 Chiefs do that too. But I'm just saying, it just feels like, and now this is so like it's under the microscope, right? With the Chiefs, especially in the playoffs, that

Speaker 2 they just, they, they get some of those breaks that you're just Bradbury admitted he said, yeah, it was a whole, it was a penalty.

Speaker 1 I think, I think, I think there's a bigger argument of when they played, what was it, the Texans, and there were a couple Phantom roughing the passer calls.

Speaker 1 That to me is the reason why, again, this is all started in this play. I don't know.

Speaker 2 Even with Holmes is flopping to get a lot of those, which goes on in every sport, and he's mastered it. And

Speaker 1 kind of flopping to help it out. But you can't flop in the NBA anymore, right? Isn't it?

Speaker 2 They enforce that rule for like the first two weeks, and then once a month they'll say, hey, we got to call one more.

Speaker 1 This is why I just want to go back to the 80s and 90s, dude, and just let them just

Speaker 2 throw bows. I do think that the Chiefs probably are on the better end of things, but I can't say that it's like some thing that the league is.

Speaker 1 It's not an NFL-rigged thing. The NFL is not rigged.

Speaker 1 And I'm with that.

Speaker 2 Do we think the ratings would be crazy low if it was Bills Eagles? I think they'd be right up there.

Speaker 2 Maybe you lose the Taylor Swift casual fan who maybe want, like, I still think that that TV is on and those people are watching. So that's my two sides.

Speaker 1 No, I think, listen, I work at Fox. Fox has the game.

Speaker 1 They want a good Super Bowl to end on the last play of the game. I'll tell you that.
That's for sure. Okay.
Let's take a few feet. Let's fire it up, dude.

Speaker 2 Let's hit a few things. And we're going to talk in a lot more detail on the Fnatics red carpet once we're in New Orleans.

Speaker 2 And we're going to have tons of athletes to maybe get some of their feedback to and some of their takes. But right now, it's our moment here.

Speaker 2 Do you have a rooting interest other than a good game because of Fox?

Speaker 2 Do you want to see the 3P? Or some people root. I think that's part of the fun of sports.
I was rooting against the Warriors and that amazing run just because it was fun to root against them.

Speaker 2 I wasn't mad when they won, but I wanted to see it stopped. So, where do you line up with three Pete versus do you want to see it stopped?

Speaker 1 Gosh,

Speaker 1 I don't

Speaker 1 lazy answers. I really don't care, to be honest with you.

Speaker 1 I like to see

Speaker 1 I root for guys more. Like, I would love to see Saquon, and this isn't, I would love to say Saquon win a Super Bowl.
I love Saquon. I think he's a great dude.
I'd love, I'd love to see

Speaker 1 new players experience that. That's something some of those guys hadn't experienced.

Speaker 1 You know, A.J. Brown, like some of these guys, like, like Jalen Hurts, like experiencing that is, we were close to experiencing that in Arizona, but we didn't.

Speaker 1 So, so for that part, it's just like, it's, there's no bigger feeling in sport to be able to say you're a Super Bowl champ.

Speaker 1 I also, and I said it last week, I appreciate greatness. I respect, I love Andy Reid.
I wish I would have been able to play for him. Like, he's just one of the greatest.
I love Mahomes.

Speaker 1 To me, there's nothing unlikable about the Chiefs. I love Kelsey.
I love those guys. That's the thing.
They're not unlikable to me. I love Chris Jones.
I think people are just tired.

Speaker 1 It's just the tired thing, right? They're tired of seeing that. So, again,

Speaker 1 I'll be happy either way.

Speaker 1 I do root for a great game. I'd love to see Saquon go off.
And I'd love, I'd love, I would love to see.

Speaker 2 This is what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 What's your ideal experience as a

Speaker 1 reversed? And I would love to see Jalen Hurts with the ball with a minute and a half to win the game.

Speaker 1 Because we know

Speaker 2 Bagnolo is going to blitz off the edge four guys.

Speaker 1 We saw that, and I would like to see that scenario play itself out.

Speaker 1 A couple minutes left, and it's not because, again, if Mahomes gets the ball down three, you know, or down three points or whatever, six points with two minutes left, they're going to win the game.

Speaker 1 We've seen that. We've seen that story be written multiple times.

Speaker 1 I want to see Jalen Hurts have that opportunity. And

Speaker 1 that's going to win the game.

Speaker 2 My thing is, for a viewing experience, if the Eagles are going to beat the Chiefs, the way I would like to see it is stop Patrick Mahomes with a minute left, up three or whatever, up six, then do it.

Speaker 2 Do the thing that everyone said can't be done because then you have to get, you have to stand up and clap whether you love the Eagles or hate them. And I don't particularly care for them.

Speaker 2 But if they do that, you have to clap it up.

Speaker 2 And for the Eagles, I mean, gosh, they would, I know they lost to Mahomes, but they will have beaten Brady in the Super Bowl, and they went a long time without Super Bowl wins.

Speaker 2 And then, this, if they could, but that's the way I would want to see it. I would want to see Mahomes down three or six with the ball with a minute to go and a timeout and say,

Speaker 1 what do you got? What do you got? I'm telling you what, if there's a team, I mean, the Eagles are dominant. The Eagles have been dominant all year.

Speaker 1 And the story, really, more of the narrative this year was Jalen Hurst, they can't throw the ball. They're disgruntled A.J.
Brown, whatever. Okay.
You have the best running back in the game right now.

Speaker 1 You have a dominant offensive line.

Speaker 1 You have a dominant defense.

Speaker 2 Well, that's what we're going to go like. We're going to go.

Speaker 1 It is. It's by the minute right now.
If there's a team, I think if I would say this,

Speaker 1 if there's a team ever that we've seen that should be able to slow and beat the Chiefs, it's this year's Eagles based on how they're built.

Speaker 2 Up front, dominant, a dominant run game to kind of control the ball they have big-time guys on the outside with a j brown like they have everybody and jalen hurts in the playoffs is fantastic so they are built to win let's do some fun let's just go unit by unit who we think has the edge none of this might factor in but i think it's a fun way to look at a game now we'll we'll start with something that i'm not as familiar with but i think i have a feel for what unit has the what team has the better special teams unit and i mean dude i could care less about special teams.

Speaker 2 I know, but it is going to come up. Elliott's had a little bit of a rough year.

Speaker 2 Cooper's been good, returned to punts. Philly's forced two fumbles on kickoffs.
I'm going to give a slight, I call it a wash because I mean, Harrison Bucker is the best.

Speaker 1 I mean, he's the best kicker in the league, especially in the playoffs.

Speaker 2 Now, let's get to more fun stuff.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 We'll move on from special teams.

Speaker 2 Who has the coaching advantage?

Speaker 1 Andy Reid. Andy Reid.
Easy. Chiefs.

Speaker 2 Who has the quarterback advantage?

Speaker 1 Next.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 1 And I mean, it's just, I mean, there's no slide on some of these. Offensive line.
Oh, Eagles. Okay.

Speaker 1 The Chiefs, though, line has gotten better, but the Eagles have the best offensive line in football.

Speaker 2 Now, the next two were the hard. Well, this is a fun one.
I think I know which way you'll go. Skill positions.

Speaker 2 You got Saquon, AJ,

Speaker 2 Devonta. I mean.

Speaker 1 It's just, I would say, gosh.

Speaker 2 Kareem Hunt's been fantastic, by the way. A little story, not a lot of of people are talking about.
He's been awesome since

Speaker 2 he's coming back and being the guy.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's taken over. I mean, Pacheco's, you know, spells him now.

Speaker 1 This one's tough. I would lean, I lean the Eagles

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 they have a freaking running back. It's a lot of talent.
They just have a lot of talent. I mean, A.J.
Brown is the best receiver on the field.

Speaker 1 Devontae Smith might be the second or third best receiver on the field. If you talk about, I mean, D-Hop is great.
You know, he's not much of the offense.

Speaker 1 And, and, you know, Worthy is young and all those things. Kelsey is Kelsey, but I think just pure skill.
Like

Speaker 1 Goddard's been phenomenal. You would lean that.
The thing about the Chiefs, man, it's just, you know, you have the best tight end to ever play who turns it on in the playoffs.

Speaker 1 And you have just so many guys

Speaker 1 that always step up and make a play. So on paper, yeah, I think it's the Eagles, but in the moments, Worthy will step up.
You know, Juju Smith, he's going to step up in this game.

Speaker 1 D-Hop hasn't been much of the offense at all, may make a bigger

Speaker 2 play. I'm definitely betting him to score a touch there, just based off of his Instagram post.

Speaker 1 I don't care.

Speaker 2 I'm going with the emotion of it.

Speaker 1 I think it does. I do this.
It all depends on the circumstance and the situation. I think on paper, it's the Eagles.
I would lean the Eagles, but

Speaker 1 yeah, man.

Speaker 2 This one, I think it's pretty, it's

Speaker 2 closer than you think.

Speaker 2 D-line,

Speaker 2 front-four, front-seven push.

Speaker 2 Who do you got?

Speaker 1 I would say the Eagles.

Speaker 2 Eagles, too, but you can't dissolve.

Speaker 1 I mean,

Speaker 1 Chris Jones is a game wrecker, but so is Jalen Carter. And I think overall, the Eagles front four.
Now, if you put Spagnola and what they're able to do and all that, then again, that's a good idea.

Speaker 2 Which is part of the coaching.

Speaker 1 It's not just Andy Reid, Spags, that's why I think coaching favors them by far.

Speaker 2 And secondary,

Speaker 2 I think both secondaries are really, really good. You know, I had a hard time really separating.
I think both of them could also be exposed. so i had a little bit of a hard time

Speaker 1 i would probably say the eagles

Speaker 1 statistically has been better this year but yeah i mean i think eagles have a lot more checks than the chiefs buddy i mean all right i'm gonna tell you who doesn't care about that

Speaker 2 i'm gonna read you some other fun stuff so john ewing if you guys don't follow john ewing on twitter you should covers a lot of the betting stuff for bed mgm one of the places that i've been a part of for a while a better at Bet MGM has waged $125,000 on Chiefs, Eagles under 49.5%, a bet that I can't make because I hate rooting for unders.

Speaker 2 That one caught my eye. This one is,

Speaker 2 I mean, well, coin toss, heads currently at Bet MGM is being bet 53%.

Speaker 2 We like that. Majority of the bets are on the Eagles to win the Super Bowl in all states except Kansas at this point.
So,

Speaker 2 and then

Speaker 2 one better at Bet MGM, $1,500 on Dallas Goddard to win Super Bowl MVP plus $10,000. That $1,500 to win $150K.

Speaker 2 And then lastly, one better at BetMGM put $800,000 on the Eagles plus $110,000 to win.

Speaker 2 So a lot of the money going in on a lot of Eagles.

Speaker 1 I've seen a lot of unders, under

Speaker 1 on both teams.

Speaker 2 I just don't have it in me to bet the under. Yeah.
You know, I'm such a casual to root betting-wise to root for no points, but I do have a few fun bets for you.

Speaker 2 You want to talk me off the ledge of any of these? I'm happy for you to do that.

Speaker 1 Okay.

Speaker 2 Hold on. Let me see.
Well, also, John, 99% of money is on Saquon over receiving yards. His receiving yards are over under 13 and a half.
Now, he's only done it once in the last five games.

Speaker 2 So that's a little shocking.

Speaker 1 13.

Speaker 2 But it's over 13 and a half. I think I'm going to take that.

Speaker 1 I like Worthy. He always got to feel like he's going to catch a screen.
They just don't throw the ball that much. I like Worthy to score a touchdown.

Speaker 2 I feel like they're going to draw something up for him.

Speaker 2 He's the home run hitter. His odds are pretty good.
It's plus 155.

Speaker 2 Obviously, like Barkley, Kelsey, Hurts are the leaders. But now I have a couple of defensive ones.

Speaker 1 You ready for these? Yeah, I'm ready. Are you one of the defensive guys? You throw some defensive bets in the field.

Speaker 2 I like sacks.

Speaker 2 How do you feel about Carloftis, my guy? I'm a big fan of Carloftis. Two sacks in the Super Bowl, plus 589.

Speaker 1 Oof.

Speaker 1 Well, he had three sacks, what, a couple weeks ago?

Speaker 2 Think about the Eagles do have a lead. They're going to have to drop back.
Obviously, they got to be afraid of the rush. That's one.
And then, second one, this one is a long time.

Speaker 1 I would take under that, by the way. Okay.

Speaker 2 Well, this is just, you could bet him for one sack, too.

Speaker 1 I'm just trying to hit the number.

Speaker 2 Jalen Carter to have a sack in each half plus 850. First half, second half.

Speaker 1 I wouldn't take that bet.

Speaker 2 Fortunately.

Speaker 1 Mahomes doesn't get sacked that much, dude.

Speaker 2 Fortunately for me, I do what I want with these dumb bets.

Speaker 1 That's my final take.

Speaker 1 I want to see. So your final take is.

Speaker 1 And

Speaker 1 we'll talk about this at the Fanatics party, but your final take is what?

Speaker 1 You're putting money on the Eagles to win, or you're putting money on the Chiefs to win. Just what is it?

Speaker 2 I'm going to bet the Chiefs to three Pete.

Speaker 1 Okay, there you go.

Speaker 2 I don't think there's going to be any calls that go, oh, I don't think we're going to have that. I can't believe he got another call.

Speaker 2 I don't think that's going to happen unless it's blatant, similar to the Juju Smith penalty.

Speaker 1 I'm going to bet a lot of props.

Speaker 2 But for me, the most the best, the outcome I'm rooting hard for is I want to see the Chiefs down

Speaker 2 three or six with a minute, minute 10 left and a timeout getting the ball. And I just, if Mahomes does that, bow down.

Speaker 2 If the Eagles stop him, bow down. I want a definitive, you stop the terror or terror continues.
And I can't wait for next year.

Speaker 2 And then we'll ask Kelsey on the podium if he's coming back for another year.

Speaker 1 And if Mahomes does that the next day, on every talk show, sports talk, it's going to be, is Mahomes.

Speaker 1 Is he the greatest of all time? Has he surpassed Brady? I know he doesn't have the number yet, but has he

Speaker 1 surpassed Brady as the greatest quarterback to ever live? That's going to be a question.

Speaker 2 It'll be a good one.

Speaker 1 By the way, if he loses, he's still going to be in the, he's still going to be. Then it'll be the opposite.

Speaker 2 Like, yeah, yeah, Brady. Who was your halftime show when you were at the Super Bowl with the Cardinals?

Speaker 1 Do you remember? That's a good question.

Speaker 1 Andrew, I need help with that.

Speaker 2 Well, because what I was going to ask about.

Speaker 1 Honestly, I thought about this. I'm like, who was our halftime?

Speaker 1 Because I remember it's a a long halftime it's way different everything is way different and which sucks because usually halftimes are you're in like 15 and you're out this was like 30 so you're in there for an extra you're just sitting around and you could hear it was uh

Speaker 2 wasn't bon jovi gosh who was it it was uh bruce springsteen and the e street band bruce springsteen there you go that's a good one i feel like with kendrick though this will be the first one where hey where's that where's that third string linebacker oh he's he's in the tunnel listen watching like the kick

Speaker 1 The kickers will be out there fucking replacing. Does that happen? Do you think that's happened before? Yeah.

Speaker 2 And is that considered big no-no? Or like,

Speaker 1 you don't do that shit. You have people video for you.
You have like, you know, some of the equipment guys or ball boys go out there and video, but no, you don't really think about that.

Speaker 2 A couple of fun facts. Mahomes currently ranks fifth all-time in career passing yards in Super Bowls.
He needs to throw for 85 more to become second all-time. He'll pass John Elway,

Speaker 2 Montana and Kurt Warner's three, two, and then obviously Holmes.

Speaker 1 So he's got 1,000, a little under 1,100 yards passing in Super Bowls. Yep.
Brady's got over 3,000.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, that's

Speaker 1 crazy.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. Mahomes going for a three-peat, played in four Super Bowls.
It's still going to be.

Speaker 1 I was going to say,

Speaker 1 he's going to throw for, I mean, I think his number's at 250-ish over and under, like 252. I mean, dude, you need another six, seven Super Bowl appearances.

Speaker 2 What would be more surprising?

Speaker 2 Chiefs winning by two scores or Eagles winning by two scores? Like,

Speaker 1 just basically, not a route, but Chiefs winning by two scores, I think.

Speaker 2 Because the offense doesn't really light it up.

Speaker 1 The offense is good, don't get me wrong. Looked like they were going to blow out Buffalo at one point early in the game.
And I just, again, I just think that the Eagles...

Speaker 1 if there's a year to beat the Chiefs and just kind of eliminate all the noise and the narratives, the Eagles have the dominant offensive line, a dominant running back, a dominant run game, a quarterback who can also take over in the run game.

Speaker 1 And you can control a game like that. That's, I mean, this college, we talk about all the time, but in the pros, you can control a game like that as well.

Speaker 1 And then on the defensive side, they have a dominant defense. So they have, they have the pieces.
Like they have, on paper, like, hey, we match up.

Speaker 1 We're probably better than them in a lot of areas outside of the quarterback.

Speaker 2 Okay, last thing, and then we're going to take a quick break and wrap up.

Speaker 1 It doesn't matter, though.

Speaker 2 What do you think needs to happen to

Speaker 2 cause me to have a Twitter meltdown during the game? Because you know,

Speaker 2 you monitor my Twitter. You call me salty.

Speaker 2 Like, what do you think can happen in the game that would be like, oh, Jerry's going to fight,

Speaker 2 this guy's going to be unhinged? Because I know what it is.

Speaker 1 I know what it is already. It's going to be something with the tush-push.
Yes, correct. Correct.

Speaker 2 Do you know your partner or do you know your podcast?

Speaker 1 When the Eagles are first and goal on the three-yard line and they run it four times in a row and they don't get in.

Speaker 1 I think if they do get in, you're still going to be like, What are we fucking doing here? I'm going to be unhinged either way.

Speaker 1 By the way, I'll be if they if they go for it four times in a row, which we've seen them do, and they don't get in, I'm going to be unhinged too.

Speaker 1 It's going to be like, bro, you have throw the fucking ball or roll out, do something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 All right, we're going to take a quick break, come back with throwback three.

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Speaker 2 Okay, it's time for

Speaker 2 one of my favorite segments. I think get a lot of traction on social media.
Again, follow us at Throwback Show. Let us know your picks for this or comment on ours, and we will get back to you.

Speaker 2 But this week's Throwback 3 in honor of Luca Donchich, Donchich, Doncic, Donchich, Doncic, dude, don't up the name.

Speaker 1 I better get that right.

Speaker 2 We're going to do stunning trades across sports. Do you want to take the Luca trade off the board?

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because it still needs about five years to age.

Speaker 1 I think it's, I think it's, I think now, because we live in the moment, it's take it off. The most, for sure.

Speaker 1 I do think it's the most, it's the craziest trade we've seen in recent sport history for sure. Correct.

Speaker 1 But let's take it off to just for the sake of having a little bit of fun about the history of trades because I had a little bit of fun doing this.

Speaker 2 There's a lot to pick from. Do you want to lead off or do you want me to lead off?

Speaker 1 You can lead off. You can lead off.

Speaker 2 All right. Remember, these are always like personal to us, so you could disagree.
I remember being a kid.

Speaker 2 And I remember when the great, in his prime, Ken Griffey Jr.

Speaker 2 got traded to the Reds.

Speaker 2 That at the time for me was shocking. I know when you stack it up against some of the other ones might not stay out there, but for me, that was shocking.

Speaker 1 Did I tell you that I saw him at the World Series this year?

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 1 I was on the field. This is a total sidebar, but Griffey, I think Griffey was everybody's favorite player growing up, right? Like everybody wanted the swing.
Griffey.

Speaker 1 He tortured the Yankees, too, with the Mariners. Torture of the Yankees.
Just like Ken Griffey Jr. baseball for video game, like it was everything.
I was chopping up with Ken Griffey Jr.

Speaker 1 on the field before game five of the World Series. Shout out to Sinclair.

Speaker 1 I was doing a couple of local hits for some TV stuff and I was down there and I went over to go see a couple of my guys on the Dodgers and Griffey was there.

Speaker 1 And I was like, I'll never forget my boy who I took was like taking a video. He goes, and he literally goes, that was fucking cool.
And he's seen everybody.

Speaker 1 I said, Mike, I got to be honest with you, that was really cool. And I'd met Griffey before.
Anyway, I love it because I think Griffey was one of the best. All right.

Speaker 2 So real quick with Griffey, I get to hang with him every now and then at the Jeter event, right? He's there. Everyone always wants to play Griffy.

Speaker 1 He's a good person too, right? He's a golf swing.

Speaker 2 He's a stick. Of course, his golf swing is gorgeous.
You know, we all take shuttle buses to the golf swing.

Speaker 1 Griffy's golf swing is gorgeous.

Speaker 2 It is. It's gorgeous.

Speaker 1 What's wrong with that? Did that word just come out of you?

Speaker 2 Beautiful, sweet.

Speaker 1 What other words do you want? I would just say, I would say he could. Amazing.

Speaker 2 It's a gorgeous. So technically, it's a gorgeous swing.
So everyone gives Andrew Jones a lot of heat at that event. He makes a lot of birdies that some people are like, oh, really?

Speaker 2 You eagled that hole. So we all get on the bus.
Andrew Jones said something to Griffey about how he played. And Griffey says to Andrew Jones, man, keep quiet.
We still don't know how old you are.

Speaker 2 Like, you still don't have a birth certificate. You said you were 18 years old in the World Series.
You lied about everything. So shout out to Ken Griffey Jr.

Speaker 1 The order was hard for me.

Speaker 1 Again, when I do these things, sometimes it's like, oh, I remember that. Then it's also fun looking up, right?

Speaker 1 because you go back in in history you get a little bit of history lesson this was a little bit of a history lesson for me but it was because

Speaker 1 i became an all-time like hockey fan growing up for the la kings and it was when wayne gretzky got traded to the la kings absolutely from the from the edmonton oilers and he got traded i think 88 so i was five years old but i got into the kings in 93 94 i was 10 11 it was the year they went to the stanley cup they lost to the montreal canadians mc sorley had the curved stick it was all these things like i was a diehard kings Kings fan.

Speaker 1 I had Kelly Rudy was like my favorite player, the goalie. I had kings shit everywhere.

Speaker 1 So I was looking up. I'm like, I kind of remember that as it became a thing.
He won a bunch of Stanley Cups for the Edmonton Oilers. He's the great one.
He was great then, all of these things.

Speaker 1 They were... I think, talking about trading him prior.
I think it was another one of those things where he didn't know.

Speaker 1 He found out a couple hours after he won a Stanley Cup that he was going to the Kings, which is crazy. But the big part about that was what it did for the sport, because they're reading up on this.

Speaker 1 Basically, it brought so much attention because hockey is a Canadian sport, really, you know, a world sport, and it wasn't that big in the U.S. Conspiracy.

Speaker 2 Grow the game in America.

Speaker 1 Well, there's a little conspiracy. It helped grow the game tremendously in America, is what happened and basically put a lot of eyeballs.

Speaker 1 But I remember watching him as a kid for the Kings, man.

Speaker 1 So one of the biggest trades, I mean, the greatest hockey player to ever live, one of the greatest athletes, top Mount Rushmore athlete, probably, you could argue, came to my city.

Speaker 1 Once again, we're all going to be a little bit more.

Speaker 2 Did you ever see the 30 for 30 on that? Which was the first 30. It's the first one.

Speaker 1 Gretzky getting traded.

Speaker 2 Pete Berg directed the first 30 for 30.

Speaker 1 No, I'll have to see that.

Speaker 2 Go watch the Gretzky trade 30 for 30. It's incredible.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because it talks about, and then it gets into like he was dating, you know, Janet, who was from LA, and she got a lot of heat because they was like, oh, he's going there for a girl.

Speaker 2 It was, it was a wild story. That's a good, that could easily be.

Speaker 1 I used to run into Greta when Gretzky was a part of the Phoenix Coyotes when I was in Arizona. So I went to a couple Coyotes games and I've crossed paths with him a couple times.

Speaker 2 So we got invited once, me and Dylan and Connolly and Doug Allen to play golf with Wayne Gretzky at Sherwood Country Club, right? He wants to play golf with us.

Speaker 2 So we're all shitting our pants because it's Wayne Gretzky and all that. Connolly's like a huge, Connolly's the biggest hockey fan, Islander guy.
That's his number one sport. So we go up to Sherwood.

Speaker 2 It's me, Dylan, Connolly, and the great one, who, by the way, when you're hitting in front of him, you know, some might say the right thing is like you stand far away from someone when they play, when they hit, teeing off.

Speaker 2 You don't want to be. He stands right up in your eye line and just watches you.

Speaker 1 It's the most nerve-racking. He's right behind you or is he like to the side? No,

Speaker 2 if you're on the T-box, he's parallel. If you're lined up here, he's parallel to your line of sight.
You could see his feet.

Speaker 2 It's terrifying, but the most shocking, and by the way, he doesn't wait for you to hit. He hits when he wants.
He drives drives away. He does whatever he wants, as he should.

Speaker 2 So, Connolly at this point, not a golfer, has not played maybe a handful of times in his life.

Speaker 1 Now he loves golf.

Speaker 2 We're on some hole. Connolly hits a good drive.
He has 99 yards to the stick. Gretzky already hit his shot and walked up onto the green while we're still back.

Speaker 2 And I'm like, fuck Kevin, you should call four. Like, Gretzky's right there.
He's about to hit. I'm like, he's going to skull one and kill Wayne Gretzky.

Speaker 2 Connolly hits a shot that floats on the green, hops twice, and goes in the hole. And Gretzky puts his arms up and runs over and gives him a hug.
Gretzky pulls the ball.

Speaker 2 So we hold out from 99 yards and Gretzky's. Tell me he saw it.

Speaker 2 He said 99 from 99. And

Speaker 2 just one of the craziest golf stories I've got. I got goosebumps.

Speaker 1 That's fucking.

Speaker 2 Sorry for that, diatribe, but I thought it was worth it. All right.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 1 See, this is the best part about this. Stories always come from, they come from everything.

Speaker 2 I'm going to give my number two.

Speaker 2 And i don't know if it steps on one of yours we did not talk before this so i'm sorry if it does and i have an honorable mention shaq to the heat yeah is that yours yeah i was gonna put it at three no go for it we could have it at number two it what was so shocking about it was the fact that they just won three rings like we talked about earlier like it ended the era and when you really think about what it was about was the most shocking and equally it was shocking when shaq went to the lakers you know he was just in the finals with the magic so i think he was like four years in from orlando right it was like barely and yeah they went to the finals and then jordan the next year annihilated them and he got out of orlando but uh i remember there's because in that era i was still a big laker fan but that was like my peak laker fandom like i was 18 19 20 i was at usc but i just love or yeah i just love the lakers i remember

Speaker 1 In high school when Shaq got signed by the Lakers. I think it was in high school.
I remember reading, that was back in the day when I would have cereal in the morning.

Speaker 1 I'd read the sports paper every morning, like my dad, like we read the newspaper. And I'll never forget, I have a vivid memory of like

Speaker 1 seeing Shaq to the Lakers, whatever the headline was. It was an awesome time to be a Laker fan.
And then I have another, I have a vivid memory of Shaq leaving the Lakers in that year, too.

Speaker 1 It was like, no. And I remember, who did we get for him? And we got Karon Butler.

Speaker 2 It was Odom. And we got Odom

Speaker 1 and Brian Grant and

Speaker 1 Karon Butler, Lamar Odom, and Brian Grant. So we got good haul.
We got good players. We got a good haul for sure.

Speaker 2 Odom became a real piece for what was to come. They ended up winning.
Were you bummed when Shaq won the title with the heat?

Speaker 1 Not bummed, but like. I was not bummed.
I was like you. I was the reason why I was, I was so much, I was so bummed on why it happened.

Speaker 1 It was just a bunch of BS and like two massive egos just couldn't, they couldn't play together.

Speaker 1 And when they did, like we just talked about the duo, it was like great, maybe the greatest duo of all time and what could have been. There would have been two or three more championships easily.

Speaker 1 Both were in their easily with Phil easily. And

Speaker 1 it just, their egos got in the way. And it was just a bummer of how the fallout.
And then Shaq got his. I remember, I think the next time they played was maybe a Christmas Day game.

Speaker 1 I think it was Heat Lakers. It was the next year.

Speaker 1 And I just remember.

Speaker 2 They didn't say what's up to each other.

Speaker 1 I think they might have said what they gave a little fist pump, a little hug, but Shaq was pissed and like all that. So that was my number two though, too.

Speaker 1 I was just, it was so, I almost put that number one because it just question.

Speaker 2 Before, before I give my number one, is your number one involving basketball? Could I ask you that? Yes or no?

Speaker 1 No.

Speaker 2 Okay, good. Because I want to do a lot of money.

Speaker 1 My number one is a straight history lesson. Okay.
You probably know where I'm going to go.

Speaker 2 I'm going to give a quick honorable mention before my number one because we've talked a lot of Lakers today and everyone's complaining that the Lakers get stuff.

Speaker 2 No, no, this is Celtics. Yeah.
Celtic fans, I don't want to hear from you because

Speaker 1 the Kevin Garnett trade.

Speaker 2 Listen to the haul. By the way, famously, Kevin McHale was responsible for this trade.

Speaker 2 Celtics traded Al Jefferson, Ryan Gomes, Gerald Green, Theo Ratliff, Sebastian Telfair, and two firsts, which I'm not quite sure who they became, but one of them I think was used in a trade for Ricky Davis or something.

Speaker 2 So I don't want to hear it from you, Celtic fans.

Speaker 1 You guys got Kevin Garnett.

Speaker 2 For me, my number one

Speaker 2 is yours baseball or football.

Speaker 1 Yours is football. Oh, that's not your number one?

Speaker 2 No, that's my honest number.

Speaker 1 Quick thing on the KG.

Speaker 1 You remember this?

Speaker 1 He wanted to go to the Lakers.

Speaker 2 To the Lakers. Kobe was trying to him.

Speaker 1 No, he, but he was calling Kobe and Kobe never returned his calls.

Speaker 1 When it all came down to the wire, I was just read the quote. I was trying to get a hold of Kobe.
I couldn't get a hold of him. And then he went to the Celtics.

Speaker 2 I interviewed Kevin Garnett when I was with Bet MGM doing a show, and he told that story. And what hearing him say it is goosebumps because he's like, man, I was calling Kobe.

Speaker 1 He wanted to be back.

Speaker 1 Could you imagine if he would have been a Laker? Crazy. Crazy.

Speaker 2 My number one's in baseball. It's a little selfish because it involves the Yankees, but the fun history part of it, too, is the A-Rod trade.

Speaker 2 What makes the A-Rod trade wild is because he was going to the Red Sox.

Speaker 2 It was done. So every Yankee fan was like, oh, shit.
Now we got to deal with this guy for years to come. And then all the stuff that happened, which has been documented.

Speaker 2 But for me, that's my number one. Sorry, I couldn't do Babe Ruth.
Wasn't around.

Speaker 1 Couldn't do Babe Ruth's trade.

Speaker 1 That one reminded me of

Speaker 1 trades are always what if, or what if Kevin Garnett went to the Lakers? What if A-Rod ended up going to the Red Sox? Another one is the Chris Paul to the Lakers. Remember that?

Speaker 1 When Stern just came in and said, nope.

Speaker 1 I was so pissed. I was like, we're going to get, we're going to get.
Still don't really know why that was a nope.

Speaker 1 I think that was before the whole super team, right?

Speaker 2 But the Kevin Garnett thing is a yes, but the Chris Ball one was a nope.

Speaker 1 Well, I think that was Kobe. Yeah, I don't know.
Um,

Speaker 2 all right, so

Speaker 1 the Red Sox selling Babe Ruth.

Speaker 1 Did you see that? That's your number one. Yeah, did you see that? I just hear it.
Look it up trades. No, you didn't see it.
I haven't heard

Speaker 1 that.

Speaker 2 No, give me the history.

Speaker 1 I'm going to read this. This is fantastic, and I hope I'm not wrong.
So, the Red Sox sell the babe, okay?

Speaker 1 Looking for cash to finance the musical, no-no, nanet, nanette, Red Sox owner Harry Frisee sold baseball's greatest player to the Yankees for $100,000 plus a $300,000 loan in 1920.

Speaker 1 So that's how he became

Speaker 1 a loaner. That's crazy a loan.

Speaker 1 Heard of the curse of the Bambino, okay? Babe Ruth hit 665 of his 714 career homers for the Yankees, including 54 in the first season in the Bronx.

Speaker 1 He led the Yankees to seven World Series appearances and four titles. The greatest dynasty in the history of professional sports was born.

Speaker 1 The Red Sox, who had won their fifth World Series behind Ruth in 1918,

Speaker 1 this article is a little bit old, obviously. They won again, but basically

Speaker 1 the play ended up being a hit, but they sold it. They sold Babe Ruth to finance a play.

Speaker 1 And the loan part.

Speaker 2 So it's money they had to pay back. It wasn't even money they just.

Speaker 1 Babe Ruth was sold to the Yankees for 100K and a loan and 300 grand in 1920. And that became the greatest baseball player to ever live.

Speaker 2 But could you imagine, put yourself back in a day for a second, pitch, like, let's say Matt Leinert, I forget the year, what in 1940 something?

Speaker 2 I don't know if it says it in your research there, that this trade went down.

Speaker 2 1920.

Speaker 2 1920. All right.
You're going to hop a trolley or take a horse to your fucking job, whatever it is. And you get to your office.
Who knows what you do? And you get the newspaper and it's like, what?

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 2 The Red Sox started. Think about how long it took for that deal and that story to come out to people.

Speaker 1 I know. Isn't that crazy? I just, I literally was reading that.

Speaker 2 I'm like, what do you do? You're like, we got to go to the bar and talk about this. Let's hope people are at the bar because we have to talk.
Like, I just think.

Speaker 2 I was, if I could go back in time and we can do the historical time machine, that's a sneaky one. Go back in time to went to New York or to Boston when that trade happened.

Speaker 2 Put yourself there with a newspaper and just like,

Speaker 1 you know.

Speaker 1 I was reading up on it. I was like, this is crazy.
This is absolutely crazy. No one knew that.
Well, give us your throwback three. Comment on that.
The Marco's was a big one.

Speaker 1 There's a lot of good ones.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if I could do that. The Luca one very well might be the one that knocks all these off the pedestal.

Speaker 1 Kobe Bryant trade on draft day.

Speaker 2 But that's different, though, because that wasn't shocking. That was just the Lakers and Jerry west being really good at their job they

Speaker 2 you know some might say they took the risk so it wasn't shocking a good

Speaker 1 throwbacks in the future could be the biggest what-ifs right it what if sambowie what if he jordan went to where did sambui go portland portland number one which is ironic because that's the night that's the biggest what if yeah what if what if portland

Speaker 2 drafted michael jordan yeah or what if sambui yeah there's a i got a million of those so

Speaker 1 I'm one of those. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, we got flights to catch, Matt.

Speaker 1 Dude, let's do it, buddy.

Speaker 1 I'll see you in New Orleans.

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