Thunderclap McCrushman Von Wolfenstein III | Triforce #340

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All right. You ready to mark? Yep.
Yep. Three, two, one, mark.

I think that's maybe one of our best marks yet. That's excellent, Mark.

I want to get sound if you can, so synchronized. Keep that mark in to let people know what a professional mark sounds like.
Well, that wasn't. I want to sound like the B sharps when we were all like,

welcome, everyone, to the Trifles podcast. Oh, gosh.
Today we're

slapping each other on the back about being able to say mark in sync. That's what we're saying.
At the same time, yeah. We're full adults, full responsible adults.
Little victories.

You have to celebrate the small wins that come along. You know? You got to celebrate the really big ones too, though.
Don't forget about the big ones. or the small ones

all the wins any win is worth celebrating exactly um i gotta say

you know uh it's it's one degree outside it's a cold day it was it was it was hailing here earlier snowed here yesterday yesterday morning frigid breeze yeah that's frigid yeah and uh we're we're in full swing preparation for jingle jam and time yeah recording time is ticking away

i got some bad news for you guys I was going to try to come down for the jingle jam, but I don't think I can now because our local airline has gone bust. Oh, shit.

The one with the Bristol route went into voluntary liquidation like two days ago. Wow.

Blue islands. Yeah, Blue Islands is gone.
Yeah.

They're done.

Poor old Blue Island. And they owe the states of Jersey

£9 million. Well, funny you should ask that because the boat schedule is not available this winter either.

The new new ferry service that the island got last year have decided that there's no winter schedule. So

if you live here and you're away for university or whatever, you're trying to get home for Christmas. I don't know what you're going to do,

I guess. You're like Greenland.

We're

completely isolated. Yeah.

That's it. Apparently, Logan Air are stepping in to potentially take over.

I don't know if they're going to be taking over route for route, what Blue Islands is left behind, but Logan Air were trying to make make a play to get into the island, but on a longer time frame.

And they've been given a whole bunch of money from the local government to speed things up and do it in the next 48 hours. So that would be interesting.

So you think you will be able to come? No, I don't think. I think by the time everything gets sorted out and settled and stuff, I think it'll be months.

Oh, tell me, P-Flax, you haven't got some sort of cancellation for Jingle Jam. No, you can just drive.
I sincerely hope not. You can just drive up.
I'll fucking run if I'll run up. Run down.
Okay.

Well, run up and down.

I know that this is Sips coming up with an excuse. Oh, the airline's gone.
No, it's in the news.

It's in the news.

It's real. It's real.

I mean, I can get as far as London, but then I got to make my way. You know what I mean? Like, it's like...

My cat's going to be ill that time.

You know,

my wife's boyfriend's coming round. Yeah, well, he lives with us.

He doesn't need a couple of stuff. I know, yeah.
Well, already, Xilus

Zilish isn't coming to Jingle Jam because

he can't find a suitable uh dog sitter for his dog Remy. And I understand that's

just no dog sitter,

man. I should have used that one.
I could have gotten away with it better without an excuse like that. Yeah, I had to concoct up this whole lie about the local airline.

It's like easily bring bring Remy because he has a dog passport little doggy passport remy mark um vsop his his dog remy lovely remy he's like a he's like a fancy he's like he's a he's a doodle he's one of the doodle variety he's a doodle they don't shed apparently doodles yeah he's like a a lovely soft winter jumper in dog form um they don't shed much well

labradoodle that would be that would be no good for you sips because you'd never get visited if they don't they don't shed into the into the shed to see you that was i don't know. I'm doing it.

It was experimental. Are you feeling well? Joke?

I'm not feeling great. Yeah.

To be honest, I think it's the weather plus

the pressures. You know, I'm moving.
So I started thinking about, I've started making a list of all the things I need to do. Right.

On the list was make terrible jokes. Or is that?

It's just throwing me through a loop. I'm sure everyone's similar.
You do that. Top of the list.

You guys know this game, Five hearts under one roof no i've never heard of that is it a sexual contromance game

yeah i think it's i i think it might be korean it might be might be korean i don't know either way it's it's about these uh it's got fmv in it it's an fmv game so i added this to my wish list the other day because i thought that looks like it would be a fun game to stream and people would be like holy shit what is this because i sometimes like to throw a curveball like that i then

my buddy messages me that evening he's like noticed you added Five Hearts Under One Roof 2 to your wish list. Thinking of streaming it?

And I could see he was making sure that I was going to stream it and I wasn't just gooning to it. And I was like, yes, of course, that would be hilarious.
And he was like, cool. Oh, I found it.

Five Hearts Under One Roof, Season 2. FMV Dating Sim, Choices Matter, Immersive Sim.
Right. And this

fine overseas. Something beautiful sending me heart signals.
Exactly. So then I noticed on the

Triforce subreddit this morning. Someone posted a clip of Northern Lions saying, it's not porn.
It can't be porn because Pyrrhion Flax added it to his wish list. So

you don't know me that well.

All the women, the lovely characters in it have lovely Korean names. Minjun Park, Yoon-bin-Go,

and Gran Dong. Gran Dong.

I don't know if I would want to date someone whose name was Gran Dong. What about somebody whose name was Agnes? That's my dog's name.
That's a lot of name.

Yeah, but okay, for a dog, it's a cute name. And my friend's girlfriend is named Agnes, and she's.
Okay, fine. I'll think of another name.
How about

so many people change

their names? I'd love to meet a Helga. Wearing a derndal of some kind, some kind of busty.
Oh, I'm hello. It's worked.
It is I Helga. Come and

see Hay with me. That's Helga.
I'm all over. Okay, what about guys' names?

Guys' names that don't sound very sexy, go. Well, I don't find any guys sexy, so.
What about Aloysius is a pretty nice thing? Aloysius could be an absolute dish.

it still ain't doing it for me aloysi aloishius um

well i think it sounds like a nerd's name personally but i'm sure it does there are a lot of names that don't do it for me like yeah i just but but the the funny thing is with names is that it entirely depends on your experience because you know you as soon as i say a name like enid you know enid your enid pyrin will be like oh my four-year-old goes to school with an enid yeah um that's you know it's coming around again it's like okay yeah um but i wouldn't date a four-year-old either So I guess, like, it's still out.

Do you know what I mean? If it's, if it's coming around again, that's not, it's still in the in the Venn diagram of old lady names that are unattractive and very young children names.

You know, I don't think that game is a, is a, is a porn game, by the way. I think it is just

literally like a dating game. You choose a game.
It's a dating choices matter

immersive sim. I don't think it has, yeah, it sounds correct.
It's sometimes tricky to tell, though.

But I guess most of the ones that are porn tend to be cartoon-based or like animated in some way rather than

live action. Wow.
There are, in fact, tons of these games.

Yes. Five Hearts Under One Roof, two.
What about Road to Empress? That's another full motion video game, Flax, that maybe you would like to add to your wish list as well.

You've never played a game like this before. Road to Empress 1 is a cinematic palace adventure where your choices decide everyone's fate.
Palace adventure. A palace adventure, yeah.

Tackle multiple story branches and high mortality.

We were going to play this this week and Brav's just played the whole thing. It's actually really cool.

It's an FFV game. Yeah.
These games, these games are like not good.

Well, apparently this one is fine.

But these games typically are... Where's the titties? I'm out.
This one, I'm out. No, interesting.
Well, there's a whole trend towards these not having titties in them, though. That's the thing.

I think they're trying to... That's just a game then.

That's just the game yeah but i think they're trying to re-establish the genre after basically the whole genre was hijacked by that creepy guy who taught people how to date or whatever what was that oh god super situation super seduced that's the one yeah but there but since before that and even since that there hasn't really been anything amazing in this uh in in this are you forgetting contradiction sir i am absolutely forgetting i don't even know anything about it do you did you do you think that you sips would have changed if you were like arianna Grande,

I think she'd have changed her name from, I think, in fact, I think actually that is her name, but I think it's Ariana Grande Butera.

She used to have a Grande Butera. Now she's too skinny now.
I think she's bringing back that anorexic look. It's kind of depressing.
I think that's actually. Yeah, it's not a good look.

It is very sad.

But she's obviously taken out the buttera because it's sort of slightly like yours is. Chris loves ass.

Do you... I'm sorry to bring back the schoolroom bullying.

Why would you say that so flatly in the same way as you're saying he loves hand sandwiches? Like, you know, it's like you literally. Chris loves us.
Chris loves us. Oh, yeah.

Chris loves us. Oh, don't worry.
Do you think that if you'd got into acting, you would have thought seriously about changing your name? Because I probably would have done as well.

I think my, I know, I've never really been all that comfortable with my name or thought it was like catchy. What's Lewis? You know, we're Brindley.
Lewis ever since the Little Warner. Lewis Brindley.

Andrew Brendan.

Yes, my name. Thank you for the audition opportunity.
My name is Lewis Brindley. And I will be reappearing as Ariana Grande Butera today, cricket.

Oh,

I can't wait.

Yeah, no, I think I don't know if I would bother.

Some people's names sound too good to be true, right? Like, I don't think Tom Cruise's real name is Tom Cruise, for example. That does sound too good.
It sounds too good to be true.

I always feel like every

Hollywood celebrity from Messiah,

his name is Tom Cruise Mappatha IV.

Nice, Mapatha, like map and other, map other, M-A-P-O-T-H-E-R. Damn.
Like, I feel like every Hollywood star, um,

like, I don't know, who should I just, if I just pick one random person, like Robert De Lamarau, right? Heddy Lamar. Yeah, exactly.
Her real name was Hedwig Eva Maria Keith Keisler. Keith Keisler.

Right.

And it was a classic thing where you would reinvent yourself with this quite unique name, right? Yeah. And I guess Hedy is only a short.
What about Marilyn Monroe? Was that really her name?

Marilyn Monroe?

It can't be, right? It just sounds way too good to be true. Tits McGee.

Marilyn. Oh, I typed in Marilyn Manson.
Marilyn Manson is Bruce Hugh Warner. Right.
Marilyn Monroe.

Her real name was Norma Jean, of course. Norma Jean, of course.

Norma Jean. Norma Norma Jean Morrison.

Yeah. Do you want to hear some other celebrity real names? Yes.

Well, Rhys Witherspoons, first, I don't know why this is a big reveal. It's actually Laura Jean Rhys Witherspoon.
So she just went for the end.

A lot of people grab their middle name. Yeah.
And use that. Some don't.
Katie Perry, it was Catherine Hudson. She adopted her mother's maiden name, Perry, which is better.

Natalie Portman is probably the craziest one. Neta Lee Hurschlag.

Yeah, that's nuts. Demi Moore is Demetria Jean Gynas.

Demetria Gene Gynas. Pleasure to make your acquaintance.

My name is Horatio. Horatio Edmund

Fluffenstein III. I'm afraid to say you have a terrible Demetria Jean Gynas.

All right, how about Joaquin Phoenix? His real name is Joaquin Raphael Bottom. His parents ditched the last name Bottom in 1979 and reinvented themselves as the Phoenix.
You've got ass.

I've got ass in my name too.

Maybe this is it. Maybe it's time for me to change.
Think of a cool name for me to take on then, because I can't think of any. Are you happy with Chris?

No, I want something more exciting.

If I'm changing, I'm going big. I'm not just going to, I'm not just going to imagine.

How about no, but how about similar, but not so, like Chris with a Zed. Turd Ferguson.

We got to go big here, guys. It's got to be be a big

spice it up.

Thunderclap Devastator McCrushman. Von Wolfenstein.
Von Wolfenstein. What about having Wolfenstein in there something? Yeah, we could put Thunderclap Wolfenstein, the third.
That sounds good.

You could push that in there. Yeah, that sounds good.
Some of these. So Jamie Fox's real name is Eric Marlon Bishop.

That's very different from Jamie Fox. Oh, so he changed his name to Jamie Fox so that he would appear on people would mistake him for a female comedian.
So he would think they would always get a slot.

So he called himself Jamie Fox of two X's. So the bookers would think he was a woman.

And then that's it. And then he would get the slot.
That can't be right. That doesn't sound right.

Most people that have cool names definitely have boring real names.

Like, for example,

the Wu-Tang clan all have cool names.

for instance.

He wanted to Jamie Fox, it says he chose it because it was ambiguous enough to disallow any biases with his surname attribute to black comedian red fox

um and yeah female police were often called first to perform and he wanted to be up there first so he thought he could trick them but red fox's name wasn't that it was john elroy sandford right well listen okay listen to these names okay the rizza's real name is robert diggs the jizz's real name is gary grice uh older ambassador's real name was russell tyrone jones yeah i think we talked about this Method man is Clifford Smith.

Maybe even within the last two months. A Rayquan is Corey Smith.
Maybe they're related. You got a Jason Hunter in there, Inspector Deck.
Master Killer's name is Elgin Turner.

It just wouldn't be the same, right? If it was like the latest LP from Elgin Turner. Introducing

Gary. They have these really cool names.
Capadon's real name is Daryl Hill. Like these are, these are the names of electricians, you know, like you'd have an electrician round.

Hi, I'm Daryl Hill, local electrician. But I'll be singing.
And then they put on their stage names, and all of a sudden it's like, whoa, this guy is more than an electrician.

I guess it's part of their costume. It is.
Yeah. And

I think coming back to what we were talking about, Hollywood stars the same. It is just a part of like.
So I think in some ways it's a persona that they make and they act it out too.

You know, some actors. What did you say on Harvey Thunderclap? Or what was it? What did you say? No, it was Thunderclap von Wolfenstein.

Oh, you're bringing the German back. Yeah, Yeah, we wanted to.
But we got rid of the. No, no, we're going the other way now.
That's a really good

surname. Yeah, I want to go.
I wanted to bring back Goebbels. My name is

Goebbels.

I'm proud of it.

The world is ready for another Goebbels.

Oh, my God. That is way too prescient, actually, P-Flex.
Holy shit. Well, you think there'll be another Goebbels coming up.
Well, the way the right wings are taking over, you know.

Well, don't want to get into politics, Lewis. If you're going to do that, you've got to balance it out.

Go, boo. Good old starling, eh? I'm wearing a diaper.

All those tree fucking hub, hugging, green hippies who love their fucking

good nature.

Don't touch my birds. You're woke.

Gun old woke.

Now that we've balanced it out, we've got to be. Good balancing, guys.
Good balance. We're not the BBC.
We have no obligation to be inverted commas balanced.

Which I always find

anyway.

What's the idea? Well, what's the

what's the what's the rules on that balance, you know?

If um, I believe the point is that if you present something with any editorializing, yeah, you have to present an alternate view to the one that you're editorializing. So

otherwise, like if something happened, like some economic decision was made, and the only people you got on the BBC to talk about it were people that you could point to and say those people are clearly left-wing, you know, like labor, liberal, kind of left-wing,

that that's not fair in describing the situation to to people, explaining it, because there might be an alternative conservative take on that same decision that is not being presented.

The problem is that that idea for me is set up when both sides are still fairly close together. It's just a slightly different opinion on what we should do in this situation.

When you have to both sides, the left with people who are like, you know, just off oil and the right, which are people like fascists, then you've got a problem.

And I think that is where a lot of this dystopian sort of modern politics is so depressing to me: is that we're platforming people that I think even 15 years ago, we would have considered anathema to politics.

And now it's like, he's entitled to his opinion, actually. And this guy's arm is just locked out in a Nazi salute.
They can barely fit him through the door.

They've got him on a fucking trolley to wheel him in. Zig Haz, Zig Haz.
I'm like, well, you know, we've got a good fellow's view here. So we've brought in recreation of Nazi.

And then his parents thunderclapped von Neumann. And I've been decide him out.
But he's sound to his opinion. So,

you know, a question for the member of the audience. Yeah, hello, my name is Herr Goebbels

II.

I'm not related to the real Goebbels. My question is, if you are, when will that ban for world domination? This brain is answered.

Good question, my friend.

We have never met. What I would like to assure you is that world domination will occur any moment now.

Well, thank you. Now over to the Labor Minister for Bread.

What do you have to say about it? Well, no, I think what's really important. Silence! That's literally all that happens on these shows now.

Yeah, question time is fucking outrageous sometimes if you ever watch it.

Depending on who they get on there, it's just like

it's just artful Dodgers, you know, that none of them fucking answer the question. You know, they skirt around it, skirt around it, and they're

almost laughing because it's so absurd how much they avoid answering a direct question. Uh, and but we just let it we let it happen every time.
We just let it slide all the time.

Oh, anyway, let's slide away from this because it does irritate all of us. But uh, so what have you guys been doing? I want to hear something really mundane and boring you've done this.

I'll tell you what I've been up to. Uh, I went to uh Spain this weekend.
It was really fun. I had a really fun time.
Yeah, I went to Madrid. I hadn't really been properly to Madrid.

We had a lot of time to just wander around and

visit a lot of like old bars and drink a lot of nice beers. And we had some vermouths

and lots of olives. I ate a lot of olives and breadsticks and some other fun snacks.
And we went to a lot of arcade bars as well, which are really fun.

There's like, they have like retro arcade machines in them.

You can drink a lot while you're there and there's like a bit of dancing, there's music and stuff. Like it's a mixture of all sorts of stuff, but really fun.
We were playing a lot of Puzzle Fighter,

if you remember that. It's like Street Fighter with like doc mixed with like Dr.
Mario. You play against each other.

You have to get like, you got to get like big, big, big, big combos, big lines to send more stuff over to the other guy's side and stuff. It was fun.
My friend beat me like eight times in a row.

I couldn't figure out how he was doing it.

And then it turned out that he just said, I just dropped things really fast. That was his whole strategy.
Yeah.

And I watched him play against my other friend one time because I need to learn the moves. And I was like, this guy is not coherently making moves.

Like he is just guessing and dropping stuff really fast, like he said. But he won every game.
It was crazy.

But after he told you that strategy, you didn't try and no, because I thought he was just, you know, trying to like deflect me away, you know?

Like, you know, sometimes you tell somebody, oh, I'm just doing this, but like, they're really not telling you their strategy.

but he was he was maybe truce was trying to make you feel better yeah i don't know yeah but it was it was it was it was fun i got to catch up with uh

a bunch of guys i grew up and went to school with that i've just i've been in touch with um like throughout and every once in a while when everybody um is is in in or around europe and it's easy enough for me to get over there i go meet them and it was fun it was great um i uh yesterday so it's my my uh youngest um she is uh 14 today wow happy birthday to her

And yesterday, she had out of the blue a teacher training day. So they got the day off school.
Oh, my God. So

we went in and met Mrs. F in town for lunch.
Mrs. F was at work, so we went to meet her for lunch.

And we had steak and lobster is the name of the restaurant. Burger and lobster.
Burger and lobster is cool.

Do you eat both things at the same time? No, you can choose a combination of the two. Right.

So you can have a burger, you can have a lobster roll, or you can have a lobster, or you can have combos where you get a bit of of each of those things. Right.
Okay. I went for lobster and chips.

Love a lobster. Grilled, whole lobster.
Let's go. They both had a lobster roll.
And that was nice. And then we went shopping.
I bought her a couple of things.

You were well within the rules of having chips with other food on that one. There was no.

What do you mean?

It wasn't too.

What's the other charge? What's the chips and bread? What's chips and carbs? Chips and bread, yeah. What bread? Was the lobster stuffed with anything? It was lobster.
It's a lobster.

Did they stuff it?

No, it was stuffed with its own flesh.

Right. Did you suck it out of its shape? I did.
I got all the tools. It was really messy.

It was not that messy. Did you have to use a lobby? I got all the tools.
I didn't need a bib. If you need a bib, you're probably eating like an animal.
Right. It's not that hard.

It comes cut down the middle. They cut it down.
Well,

it comes sliced right down the middle. I don't know how they do it.

It must have a thing that goes

and just cuts it in half. But it's like, it's beautiful.
And then, you know, when they've done that, I think they boil it and then they grill it. So So it's all nicely done.

The only thing you've got to have trouble with is cracking open the claws and the other joints because the meat in there is delicious. The dark meat, you got to get that out.

So they give you like a long pick and a pair of nutcrackers. Do they chop its head off before they serve it to you? They don't.
The head is there, little antennas, eyeballs looking at you.

Just staring at you the whole time. You want to eat me?

Well, I just saw him in the tank. I saw him in the tank a minute ago, and now I'm eating him.
So, how could you do me? How could you do Mr. Pinchy like this? Sorry, Mr.
Pinchy, you're just a cool

tear forming in one of his dead eyes.

Mr. Pinch,

this happened to me. Sadly, he's just too delicious.
So I had to eat him. Nice.

And then

luckily, I got Mrs. F's Christmas quiz that her company does every year.
They do like a pub quiz for the company and the clients and stuff. So I managed to get a copy of that quiz.

And I have the questions here. If you'd like to play a little bit of quizzing,

I'm definitely down for that. All right.
We should just turn this into a quiz podcast, honestly.

We don't do quizzes that much, okay? No, no, no, we don't do that. The last time we did a quiz was like probably 12 podcasts ago.
Like, we haven't done a quiz in so long.

We're looking forward to the quiz, Lewis. Don't spoil this.
Don't spoil this for me. Don't spoil this.
Point Nemo is more than 1,600 miles from land. Yeah.

It's so remote that the nearest humans are often on board the ISS. Yes.
And which ocean is Point Nemo? Pacific. Lewis Brindley? Hang on.

Can you hear me? Give me the question again. Somebody's going to win my instead.
I can just...

Again, this is one one of those podcasts where I'm just going to be weird.

But ask me one more time. Point Nemo, which ocean? Oh, no idea.
Indian. Pacific.
Hey, can I just say, can I just say that this is such a timely question?

Because just this morning, while I was getting my youngest ready for school, she was watching a show on CBeebies called Go Jetters, and they were talking about Point Nemo. Are you serious?

I swear to God. Yeah.
That's crazy. What the hell? So you had insider information.
So this is fresh knowledge, insider information.

Who were Alan Carr's fellow traitors and celebrity traitors? Well, all of them, there were like 20 of them. No, no, no.
There were two fellow traitors. Oh, it was Jonathan Ross and it was,

oh, I can't remember her name now. Her name was like Chip Brannigan or

Chad Cheswick. It's Kat Burns.
Cat Burns. Cat Burns.

Is that her real name? Sounds like it. Which country will start using the Euro on the 1st of January, 2026?

It is

Slovenia.

It's not. My 14-year-old's guess was Japan.
Right.

It's about as good as Slovenia.

It's a powerful guess. It's bulgar guess.
It's just as wrong as our guess is. It's bulgar.
Okay. So am I at zero and sips is at two?

Well, yeah, but I don't know if you're listening because it keeps cutting out for you. He's listening.
I'm listening. He's just really dumb.
He's not a handicap.

He's fully listening and sweating and dumb. So he is listening.
I grant him that. What I am saying is I'm not sure if he's hearing.
So I'm just kind of moving on.

Otherwise, we have to wait at the end of every question. So just bark your answer out.
If you think you got one, just chuck it out there, Lulu.

He's got seven monitors with spreadsheets on them for Jingle Jam. That's what's happening right now.

I did it. Something's going on with my homies.
I think it's because

they know I'm leaving this flat. And so it's just

on the way out. All right, so this with this one, bear in mind, this is a Christmas quiz.
Okay, everyone's got a little bit of tissue, a little hat on.

There's clients and there's people in the company there. So everyone's got a couple of drinks.
It's a laugh. This is question five of this Christmas quiz.
Christmas now

the quizmouth quiz they asked this question

you were you at christmas stuff at the lobster place when you did the quiz no i didn't do a question

did mr pinchy have a little santa claus hat on and a little beard no but she had her christmas lunch in november

she yes this is this is a lot of the time the companies will do this stuff before december because once you leave it's very hard to book

everybody's business christmas parties are always like late november well why don't you book it in fucking july on that logic because you have to involve clients and you're not sure if you'll still have those clients in July.

All right. I'm just covering all the basics.

Just got an answer for everything, this guy. I apologize.
So, this is a Whithmouth Quidd. Clients are there.
Everyone's having a good time. This is five questions in, and they ask this one.

Lena Medina is the youngest confirmed mother in medical history. At what age did she give birth to her son? 11.
She was five years old. Fucking hell.
That is insanity.

So she went on to have a second son at 39.

but here's my thing this is a revolting question and an answer like this is absolutely horrible yeah how this is not the implications of a five-year-old giving birth are uh right so we all know what we talk about yeah so why is that in a christmas quiz i could not believe it merry christmas everybody and goodwill to all man

wait wait wait wait we've got an update what this is not a christmas quiz so they normally have this quiz in autumn question and answer oh it's like like a like a harvest jamboree quiz so this is a late quiz you You think this is what they have?

The quiz they have for the free harvest jamboree that they lay on for all the employees. That's nice, actually.
That's a pedal question. It's a five.
Most people should be doing that. It's the season.

It's the season. Name three women who were on Epstein's Island.

I mean,

what's the next one going to be? They've cut him out. He's cut him.
It's been taken out. They've shut him down.
One shot, one kill. CIA got him.

He knew too much. Who's older? Tom Cruise or Brad Pitt? Tom Cruise.
By how many years?

Probably like 10. Two.
Oh, sorry. Tom Cruise is 63 and Brad Pitt is 61.
How about that?

How about that? Tom Cruise looks older than 63. For the longest time, he looked younger than he was.
But then in the last two years, he passed some sort of threshold where now he just looks

really old. Once you get to 60.
Yeah. Like I've noticed that I'm 49.
When I've I look a lot older now than I did five years ago. Man, I still look so young and fresh.
Like you wouldn't.

But I I guess I'm only 45. So

which AI chatbot could be prompted to praise Hitler and call for a second Holocaust in an upgrade in July? It's Grok. It was Grok.
Crazy, huh? Yeah, that is crazy. All right.

Kai Sinat is a popular Twitch streamer who popularized the viral word, including Riz. What does Riz mean? It's like charisma.

It's like a short form for saying like you've got like a lot of charisma or a lack of charisma. Yeah.
Riz. I mean, I thought the whole point was chariz, muh.
So Riz has just come out of charisma.

That's what I thought as well. Yeah.
Which of these guests has made the most appearances on Joe Rogan's shit podcast? Oh, sorry, hit podcast. Was it Neil deGrasse Tyson, Elon Musk, or Edward Snowden?

Elon Musk. He's on it like all the time.
Not that I listen to it. What do you think, Lulu?

Yeah, that's really interesting.

He agrees it is Elon Musk. Yeah.
It's Neil deGrasse Tyson. He's been on it five times.
Elon's only been on it. Neil deGrasse High Tyson.
Yeah. Yeah.
But he's Elon Musk has only been on it three times.

Who knew? Right. Yeah.
And then there's a whole bunch of questions about a countdown of dead celebrities in 2024. Right.
This is as per Forbes. They died.
This is how much they made in 2024.

In 10th place, John Lennon made $17 million in 2024. John Lennon.
John Lennon's still making $17 million.

Yeah. How old would he be if he was still alive? He was only like in his 40s when he died, and that was in 80,

80. So he would be almost like he'd be like 80, 81 years old.
Oh, close, 85. Right.
Okay.

Matthew Perry at number nine earned 18 million. Right.
All just pretty much friends royalties. Yeah.
What was the name of his character's annoying ex-girlfriend in the show?

Oh, what was her name? Janice. It was Janice, wasn't it? Shandler.

The last girl. Oh, my God.
Yeah.

What cartoon did Charles M. Schultz write? $30 million he made.

Peanuts.

He was the Peanuts guy. What was the name of the hurricane?

What was the name of the hurricane that recently struck Bob Marley, who won $34 million, his home country of Jamaica? What was the name of the hurricane? It was Hurricane Charlotte. Charmaine?

Charlene.

Lulu. I don't know.
Clementine. Move away from the letter C.

I think I'm thinking of the UK one, which was like, I think it was Charlotte. This started with an M.

Mandy. Mendy.
Many. Nope.
Morgan.

nope Morton nope Madison nope uh Michael J Fox no it's a lady's name common lady's name

um

Marjorie again

Melissa yes Millie we've got there in the end you got it thanks um

I'm still guessing my lag is so ridiculous I don't know what's happening how many how many people went to Elvis Presley's home Graceland uh last year oh like uh five million no i can give you the numbers it's a it's a multiple choice okay six hundred thousand four hundred thousand two hundred thousand six hundred thousand wow it was six hundred thousand uh he made fifty million bucks from beyond the grave man dr zeus made 75 million yeah well i mean all of his stories are still uh widely um widely available for purchase for for for young'ins and stuff and what is the food stuff that he uh sam iam he tries to he tries to get sam i am to to eat green eggs and ham it's green eggs and ham freddie mercury takes silver with an income of $250 million in 2024.

Who played him in the biopic Bohemian Raps? Man, what is his name? He's the guy that was in iRobot. Not iRobot.
What is it, iRobot? And he was also. Mr.
Robot. Mr.
Robot. And I know the guy.

I know who he is. I hate him.

He was also in.

What else did I see him in?

He was in Oppenheimer for a little bit. He was in Oppenheimer for a little bit.
He's been in a few other things. He's in the name of the name.
I feel like his name is like M.

Night Shamelam, but I know it's not his name, but it's kind of like a name. It's kind of Shamalam-ish, isn't it? It's like this is not quite as much Amalamalama as Shamalamalam.

I don't know his actual name. It's Rami Malik.
That's it, Rami Malik. I fucking hate him so much.
Michael Jackson.

I thought he was pretty good in the Queen.

I like him.

That film was an abomination. Oh, I thought it was all right, actually.
I didn't mind it. I think he's a terrible actor, and I hate his stupid face.
Right.

And I hate his bug eyes, and I hate the way he speaks. And his that I've

revealed my hatred of Rami Malik many times. Oh my god, yeah.
But I mean, it's it's really coming out. Uh, he's terrible, it's so close to Christmas as well.

That's you don't remember that thing he did about

a shocking torrent of hate. He peaked.
There was this moment where Rami Malik was like just breaking out, and he did this thing where he talked about stuff he liked.

I like long walks on the beach, sunsets, you know, like that. There was all the most

dark.

i like traveling with my mom i like breathing air i like having enough food and water to sustain my body i like music it's like oh fucking this is revelatory mate you like food music and good weather wow this guy so deep well if they interviewed me i'd be even more boring than that so i i can't i can't comment i couldn't possibly what would you say Give me your top five things.

I wake up in the morning and I go downstairs and go on my computer.

I would just play

games a lot. I play games.
I'm gaming. And when I'm not gaming, I'm thinking about gaming.
And then sometimes I eat or drink in between and then gaming again.

Eating. Sips.
Drinking.

Wanking. All I was asking was your top five things.
And you've given me a rundown of your day. Yeah, I just want.
Right, but that's not. Your top five things can't just be a discussion.

Number one,

gaming.

Number two, thinking about gaming. Number three, eating.

Number four, drinking. And number five, sleeping.
Well, family not getting a look in there, but that's fine.

They just happen to be around.

They're there.

Number one, my wife.

Number two, my second child.

Number three, my third child. Number four, my first child.
Oh, wow. Number five.
Wait, you're ordering best friends. You can't do that.

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All right, this is slang from around the English-speaking world. So I will give you the word and you give me the definition.
Right. In Australian English, what's a goon bag?

Can we get a goon bag?

Try to find a goon bag, man. I can say that.

I can say with

almost 100% certainty that I don't know what the fuck that means at all. I would say that what's this sort of backpack.
How about that? It is not. It's a bag of cheap wine.
You know, box wine?

You get wine in a box. It's like a bag in a box.
That's what it is. A game bag.
Yeah. American News.
What's a Binky? Oh my God. He dropped his Binky on the floor.
Isn't that like

a baby's blanket, like a toy? Like, you know, like it's a dummy or passage line. Yeah.

What we call, in our family, they were called goo-goos because that's what my youngest called them. Goo-goo!

From Scott's English, what are messages? Ah, Ken, you'll have to pop to the shelf and pick up the messages. Oh, is that the newspapers? No, the mail.

The mail. Lewis? Lewis?

I like the mail. No, it's got to be the daily mail.

The messages. It's got to be.
You will not get it.

You will not get it. It is bizarre.
Get the messages.

Go get me the messages.

It's

gives you 5p if you go get the messages for us. 5p for your glitch boy.

It's heroin. It's groceries.
It's getting the film. Messages.
The messages.

South African English. What does it mean if something is liquor? That the broad was dead liquor, mate.
It was dead liquor.

Unfair. Dead liquor.
That's good. Leca is good.
It means tasty. Tasty.
Or just great, awesome, nice in general.

That is the same exact word.

As you see, lekka

on like posters and things like that. Hello.
You can hear me. I can hear you.
Lekker ding is, it's really cool. It's Dutch.
Indeed. So leka must be good.
It's good, yeah. Am I right? Yep.

Okay, thank God. From Canadian English, what's a toque? This is the easiest one.
It's like a warm hat that you wear in the winter. It can cover your head and ears.

In Welsh English, what does it mean to be tamping? It was tamping.

T-A-M-P-I-N-G. Imagine if Dolph came into the office, Lewis, wouldn't believe in me.
I'm tamping. Is it on their period? No.

Is it like

I'm angry? It's furious, yes. It means to be furious.
Oh, right. For the Kiwis, what are jandals? J-A-N-D-A-L-S? I fucking have no idea.
They're like outdoor, like indoor sandals or whatever.

They're like the house. Irene, put the jandals outside

overnight.

I've got a pair of, I've got twisted jandals, according to the doctor. They're flip-flops.
They're just flip-flops. Oh, yeah.
Kind of worth it. From Irish English, what does it mean to shift someone?

To

kill them. No, it means to kiss them.
Oh.

From Indian English, what does it mean to propone something?

Propone to kill someone.

No, hang on, won't you? Propone.

Cover them in cheese. No, it means to bring it forward.
It's the opposite of postpone. Pre-pone.
Oh, bring it forward.

Bromo English. What's this, snap? Kill someone.
Oh, I forgot me, snap.

Oh, let me snap at home.

Is it a sandwich? No, it's lunch. It could be a sandwich.

Let's be lunch at home. Let's be snap at home.
Let's be snip.

What team does Taylor Swift's fiancée Travis Kelsey play for?

The Kansas City Chiefs. It is, that's right.
Where did Oasis's tour start in 2025? Tour? What was that city? It wasn't Manchester. It was Nebworth.
Nope. It was London.
No. It was

Nottingham. No.

Birmingham.

New York. No, it was Cardiff.
Cornwall. Cardiff.
Oh, Cardiff, of course. Which American actress sued Justin Boldone for sexual harassment and intimidation? Oh, that was what's her face?

Oh, fuck. Her name's.
She's got a really interesting name. I love this name.
Her name is. This cannot be her real name.
Her name is

eludes me at the moment.

Let me just look it up. Is this her real name? No, of course it's not.
Her name is Blake Lively. Blake Lively, that's it.
Fuck out.

You know, I never would have guessed. But she was.

I knew who it was i just couldn't remember the name at all yeah she was born blake ellender brown right uh but her father

see that's why that's the opposite of lively you know i mean why no it's because she's related to james brown and he was a lively man

that's where they got it from

uh what year did stranger things first come out oh the first one came out in like 2017 lulu it probably says it whenever you want to say that. I'm going to beg you for an answer every fucking time.

This is doing my notes. 2016.
2015. I asked a question.
Sips has a guess. And then there's like 10 seconds of static.
And then you come in and, like, ooh, what was the question again? Oh, Blake Law.

Shout your answer out, man. All right.
I'm not going to wait around. 2016.
Correct. Ariana Grund and Cynthia Rivo are promoting Wicked Part 2, but who plays the Wizard of Oz?

Don't know. It's Anthony Hopkins.
It's Jeff Goldblum. Jeff Goldblum.
I was going to say that. What the hell?

Lady Gagas gave a one-off free concert to two and a half million people. Yeah, it was in.
Which is the record for a female artist.

Where was it? Where was it? Where in Rio? Rio. Where de Janeiro?

On the beach.

On the beach. Which beach?

Rio de Janeiro Beach. The ghost.

The Bukabana. The River.

Nothing beats a Jet 2 holiday, but how could you save, how much could you save per person in the viral ad that sparked all these memes this summer? The Jet 2 memes.

How much is it in the ad that you can save per person? No. You've heard this meme a thousand times.
No idea.

Save 20 quid.

Save 20 pounds. It's 50 to 100 pounds.
50 pounds.

50 pounds. Wow.

K-pop demon hunters became the most watched original Netflix title on its release, racking up 325 million views. I've never even heard of it.

What is the name of the demon slaying girl band in the film? I can't remember. I only know that one song.
My daughter sings it all the time. Like, it's just hunter/slash X.
Hunter/slash X. Right.

Yeah. A Minecraft movie.
If you guys don't get this, career over, was an unlikely hit after years in Development Hill. What hell.

What is the name of the franchise's main character who's played by Jack Black and wields a pickaxe? Go on, Lewis. Oh, sorry, I cut off.

Right, that's the end of the quiz. Quiz over.

That's it. Quiz over.
You cut off.

Steve.

Steve. Yes, it's Steve.
Correct. Steve.
Steve. Steve.
Steve.

It's Steve. Oh, my God.

Oh, what a fucking quiz. Great news.

There were many, many more questions that I just skipped over. I feel like I got a fair few of those right.
I think you did great. Why did you skip over them? Well, they shit.
They were dog shit.

They were dog shit, boys. Did you want the sports round? No.
No, I didn't think so.

Oh, my God, no.

God, I hate a sports round. I mean, all my sports knowledge is from the 90s.
And most of the sports are basically

dead and retired or both. So,

yeah, no, sports, no good for me. Sports round is no good.
Yeah. Well, I ain't got no lose news because Sam says there is no news this week.
That's bullshit.

There's been no news this week of all weeks. No suitable news this week.

Here we go. Reddit slash offbeat.
Oh, here you go. Sunny slash sad news.

Murderer sues.

Murderer sues for right to eat Vegemite in Australian prison. Do you know know what I watched while I was away? And I enjoyed it.
I did not enjoy the start of it as much, but the rest of the movie

I found was fine. It was that one.

Yeah. It was a film involving someone who starts with the name Ch.
No. Charles Bronson.
No.

No. No, no, Charles Bronson.
No, it doesn't start with Ch.

Okay.

That's the only clue I'm going to give you. It's a recent-ish movie.
Right.

And it has

an all-star cast in it. By whose metric is it recent-ish? Um, I think it was in theaters maybe like a month or two ago.
It starts with a ch. No, it doesn't start with a ch.

Was it um uh one battle after another? It was one battle after another. Yeah, that's it.
Yeah, what did you think about it? I

thought the start was awkwardly horny, and I didn't care for it. Uh, and then I think I think the movie just got a bit better after that, and was and it was fine.
Yeah, I didn't like the whole like uh

you know, the revolutionaries getting like insanely horny after they do like

a job.

Did you watch it with your friends in Madrid? Yeah, well, my friend put it on. He was like, he just wanted to like, he just wanted to show me Sean Penn.
You know, the scene that he's got.

Yeah, his character is so he has a boner. And he's got to like walk out of the trailer that he's in with a boner or whatever.
That's a great movie.

He just thought that the scene was like, was quite good.

And then we just ended up watching the whole thing because everybody was, it's like a typical sort of situation you know everybody's like where are we going what do you want to do what do you want to do what do you want to do what do you want to do everybody's just lazing around and then we just ended up watching a whole movie um it was good yeah i i wouldn't i don't know if i would have um i haven't watched any movies in in probably a couple years actually um just through laziness and uh and uh a lack of uh interest or whatever so i don't even know if i would have um you know sought that one out but i'm glad i saw it it was good i liked uh well there were parts parts of it that were really good.

I've watched so many movies over the last yeah, you're much more of a movie watcher than I am. I love them.
Yeah, I watch a lot of them.

I haven't really been watching any TV shows either. I got a movie for you, Weapons.
Did you see Weapons? I heard that that's really good. No, I haven't seen it.
You should watch it.

You should watch it. I heard it's really good, though.
House of Dynamite. No, I haven't even heard of that.
I recommend it. Really good.
Really good. House of Dynamite.
I enjoyed it. Yeah.

I went to see Nobody 2, which was not that great. So, yeah, that's a Mamabos movie, lest we forget.
I like that.

The first one, I saw, I think it was on Film 4 one night, and we ended up watching it, and the fight scenes were very entertaining.

And so, when Nobody 2 was coming out, it was like, oh, we should go see it. The first one was pretty fun.

But I think we were just not in the same frame of mind or whatever, because we went to see the second one. It was just like, oh, it was all right.
The ending was just kind of fun. Jesus.

I can't, I'm not aware of any of these movies. I'm not aware of.

It's like nobody, it's got Bob odenkirk in it and he plays like the he's like a former hitman or something but he's just trying to live a normal life some kind of ex-special forces guy but he's bob odenkirk's like 60.

i don't know he's still in pretty good shape for how so he's 63.

so here's my problem that we're meant to believe because mike tyson was one of the greatest boxers of all time the dude got beaten up by a streamer okay this guy that is that's good to know because that means that i have a chance

i used to be really scared of mike tyson but now that now maybe I have a chance, you know? It's just insane that we... Where are these? Why aren't young people beating each other up?

Why do we have to see an old man beat up young men? And it's like, oh, man, he's such birdos. Yeah, that would totally happen.

This obsession with realism and gum porn these days, apparently Bob Odenkirk, who I love, is able to play a guy who kicks the shit out of a busload of young people because he's got skills.

The bus scene in the first movie was so good. Man, it was...
But it's so dumb. It is dumb, yeah.

But it's just so sometimes you need a little bit of dumb as well you know like i don't know i i think this is porn for grumpy old people my age who are fed up with young people listening to music out loud on their phones on the bus that's all it is it's like yeah go kick that young cunt's ass oh yeah beat up that young person that's all they are it's just porn for old people i don't think so i think there's like a i think it's these guys that these guys these films are vehicles for actors that we like a bob oldenkirk is is pretty lovable and loved you know i mean and everyone likes to see him do his thing and be.

It's very American as well to see

what they consider a nice American guy going around the world just being a hero, hero complex.

Again, it's the same thing as Keanu doing 17 John Wick movies or whatever. Do you know what I mean? There's been 17 John Wick movies.
Well, it feels like it. You know, John Wick 99.

I've only seen that part of the first one, I believe. I should maybe watch those.
Are they good? No. I do like an action.
I like an action movie.

The first couple are all right.

If you like an action movie, you'll like it. They are.

I used to like the old 80s and 90s action movies as well. Did you feel that there was a good guy and a bad guy in those movies? What, John Wick? No, in those classic action movies.

There was always like,

yeah, like if you think of like Die Hard.

Right. And

there was always a bad guy.

Sometimes it was the bad guy within as well, right? Like, wasn't it? Exactly. Was it Commando, like,

he was betrayed from within? Commando?

No, in Commando. Or is it Rambo that he got betrayed from within?

Well, Rambo, the police turned on him because he was a veteran, and it was about veterans going home from war. So sometimes it is the enemy within, right?

But here's my question to you: who's the bad guy in John Wick? I have no idea. I've never watched a full John Wick, so I don't know.
Right. I'm asking Lulu, who's the bad guy?

I'd probably have to kill him at that point.

I thought it was like Eastern Europeans generally in John Wick. Just in general, I think that's reasonable to to say the baddies aren't just.

It seemed like it was Russians. Foreigners, yeah, well, it could be any kind of foreigner, I think.
Yeah. The point is that...
Yeah, it can be a Brit.

There's no semblance of sense to these movies. There's like the bad guy, the motivation for John Wick to do all this stuff in the first one was that they killed his dog.
That's right.

I remember that bit, yeah. They broke into his house and kills everybody.
They killed his dog, and that was sort of the big catalyst for it.

Silently, wordlessly, close-up murdering and finishing downed enemies. He's just a murderer.

He's just a the mass murderer that's the john wick movies right they're not action movies they're revenge porn movies there's no there's not

that's what it is that we've yeah it's a revenge movie

that's the genre and it's based on a korean genre that was really quite popular and i think that you it is i think there is some element of us that is fatigued and i feel this for example routinely and i think a lot of people do of oh you know let's kill all the unnamed henchmen you know let the let them capture the main bad guy and then keep him alive because he needs to do his prison time.

Do you mean he needs to be punished? Right. And then he breaks out of prison inevitably.
And then, you know, they have this other, and he goes on to kill hundreds more people.

And then, you know, they get him again. And they're like, oh, well, we can't kill him, you know, because that's not allowed.

And it's always this moment, you know, in the movies where they have this moral section.

And so it is nice to see, I think, I think it's a response to that that these kind of a lot of these more modern things are much more final and capital rather than sort of

the softball Marvel solution to these things, you know.

I like the original Predator. I like how he was with a group of people who all in their own right seemed unique enough, and then one by one they all get picked off throughout the movie.

And then he's just got to hide in the mud because he figures out Predator can see heat signatures with his visor or whatever. Um, I think that's what happened.

It's been a long time, but I feel like this is almost almost a trope, though. I'm a trope.

So

I read this book called

Dutch Crude of Carl. I read the whole series and I really enjoyed it.
And I told you about it, Pfizer. We talked, I recommended it here, and you didn't like it.
And that's fine.

Anyway, I went on to like a few other sort of recommended series within that and checked them all out. And one is very, very popular, is called He Who Fights with Monsters, right? It's a very popular

series. And

it's too,

I think it wants to,

when he wrote it, the guy basically kept in the the back of his mind the just all of the content that he'd ingested.

And he wrote it with the idea that it was hopefully going to be a movie one day or a TV one day. And so, as a result, you know, he's hunting down this bad guy who's got all these henchmen.

And he does this classic thing of, like, I don't know. He's in a city with like crime lords, and there's no incentive him to hunt down crime lords.

He's hunting down, you know,

monsters and other people.

You know, he's this incredibly moral guy who won't even like, you know, he's, he's, he won't, and then, but he's forced to kill some, some certain people, but he'll keep these people alive who he knows like

it's so frustrating. And like, every time I was just reading this book, I was hoping that at some point these guys would get their comeuppance.
And maybe, maybe they do eventually or whatever.

But it's, it's like, it was just deeply, deeply unsatisfying.

And I found myself thinking, I wish that this guy, and it made me almost want to write my own version of it, you know, because I was, because I was talking about that on a previous podcast of how like I'm so dissatisfied with this experience that I've had.

I almost would like,

but I don't know why it's so prevalent. Maybe it's just to fit into that young adult thing of like, but it does, it does seem like weirdly.

I know with political on the podcast, but with all this rise of right wing and they're they're very kind of old school, they're very southern American in there.

Well, let's get the death penalty on this guy. Do you know what I mean?

Um, you know, and there's this like, I just, I just, I feel like I'm more into like the renegade vigilante kind of actually getting at least they get stuff done. Are you talking about more with

it does sound right?

You can't do it to him. They get the job done.
Yeah, they do get the job done.

I think I'm so frustrated with reading or watching these contrived situations where

you mean like dungeon crawler Carl. Where they build up the bad guy.
The most contrived situation imagines. Obviously, when you're writing a story, you have to contrive a situation, right?

You have to build

up a bad guy in order to knock him down. You know, Joffrey has to do all these terrible things in Game of Thrones in order to get his comeuppance eventually and it being satisfying, right?

You have to have an evil, a really terrifying evil figure in or and you have to have the journey of a hero is to have this slope downwards until they are at rock bottom.

You know, they are in, you know, they're locked up in a basement with their fingers being cut off. Do you know what I mean?

It's like you have to put the hero in the worst possible situation in order for them to climb out of it. And that's where these, that's where these critically acclaimed stories come from.

It is when they see the extremes, right? When you have some absolutely,

you know, how can they possibly get out of this situation versus this monster who seems to have everything and, you know, and is lording over them. And, you know,

eventually David conquers Goliath and, you know, and you feel satisfied about it.

But I feel like David conquering Goliath only to put him in prison or not even get punished, only for Goliath to come and put David back in the same situation again and again

is to me deeply insulting

when that when I'm forced to watch that or experience that. Do you see what I'm saying?

So, like the first time the X-Men captured Magneto, you don't think he should have been in that big prison,

the magnets or whatever.

No, and I think in some cases, it's because TV shows have their cast or their bad guy and they want to keep him around, right?

And they like him and the audience responses to him and they want more of him and they have more plans for him. You know, super villains often are as big a character as the superheroes, right?

They can't, like with the John Wick movies, you know, I'm pretty sure that the bad guys get knocked off in each one and they have to make up new ones. Right.

And I think there's some element of... joy in that to seeing the bad guys uh get punished.

I just think you have to, if you don't establish the bad guy as competent and as scary and as evil and give the good guy a good reason to stop them, you don't have a good story. And that's my problem.

Here's my take on it, right? I don't agree with the death penalty. We've talked about this before.
I don't really agree with like capital punishment and death penalty generally.

And I think the reason for that is that it's misused so much, like and so much.

The only time I agree with it is for those fucking people who are sitting behind you in the plane and they get up and they try to get ahead of of you for like and you're like there's a system here where people just let the people in front of them go i don't know what makes you so special that you can skip like five seats and get ahead of me like yeah um for me

similar to dry in front of me for another hour in passport

similar i mean there's there's road works ahead and we all have to merge people not letting people merge because they're petty or people taking the piss and zooming all the way down so they can merge at the last second and then people get rid of those being difficult and just no one letting them in.

And then now you have a problem. People driving like dickheads.
And I want to say,

in this situation as well, and I know I'll probably get a bit of flack for this, but man, you guys on your motorcycles are

fucking unbelievable sometimes. Like, did you not fucking read the same highway code as I did all those years ago?

Why are you swerving in and out of traffic and trying to get ahead all the time? Like, you know, yours was the Canadian

it's insane.

It's so dangerous, too. Like, you know,

I don't want to have blood on my hands because somebody's just trying to shave two seconds off a journey by swerving in between cars and stuff.

So, sorry, just to finish my point, I think that when it comes to a movie, we are presented with this scenario where we, the audience, have seen this person commit these crimes.

And so they are guilty, right? In our minds, in our heads. And

it's not one of of these situations where you know, someone there's only there's no evidence, or some poor guy's been pulled off the street and you know, and put and given the death penalty, and it's very vague, or you know, it feels like you know, it's not, it's not a sure thing.

Certainly, you know, a lot of people with Pyrrhium, this is one of the things you said, because a lot of people, you know, end up getting exonerated after they've been put to death.

You know, I think that there are problems with it

reality, but this isn't reality, this is fiction, and I think it's very it's it's I think I'm a fan of capital punishment in fiction. Okay, wow, okay.
Um, so I mean,

the issue, the issue for me with capital punishment is that even if we feel like there are definitely some crimes out there where you think, why are we allowing this person to live?

They've inflicted so much misery, they probably do deserve death. The idea that they get to live out their life and be

cared for and paid for by the taxpayer. I get it.
People are very angry about that. But do you want to give the government the right to decide when its citizens die? I think is my

overreach. It's a different experience.
That's a little bit of an overreach. Oh, we're going to kill this guy.
I don't know, dude. I don't want to.

But we are we are in a funny in fiction. We are in a funny headspace, right? We play video games where we killed.
I'd never kill in video games. What I do is

I play all the games where you get to talk to them. Yeah, you just chat to them.
Full motion video, my choices matter. Those are the ones for me.

Any Marvel movie where kids are watching superheroes fly around? The people die in left-right centre.

They always come on. One where

you just have to chat to some Korean girls around a pool. That's the kind of game.
Well, okay, that's even soaps. They come back.
You think they're dead, but you can never be sure.

Like, look at Dirty Den. Nasty Nick.
Dirty Den, Nasty Nick.

Everyone was sure that Dirty Den was dead.

Wait, Nasty Nick. Am I thinking of the right guy? I thought it was Nasty Nick.
You think Nasty Nick is from Big Brother? Yeah. No, no, Nick Cotton was Nasty Nick, weren't they?

Yeah, Nasty Nick Cotton. Oh, Nasty Nick.
All right, mum, Ma, I'm back. And she'd he'd take uh poor old, what was her name, Dora Dot's money.

Nasty Nick is like a Donald Trump nickname for like someone. You call him Nasty Nick, he's not a good guy.
Terrible reporter,

terrible, really terrible at his job. A terrible person, terrible reporter, lousy guy, quiet piggy, quiet piggy.
Oh, that is

got my back on it. That's fucking outrageous.
That isn't that

insane. It is actually insane.
But At least the world we live in is

insane. But if we're gonna, we need to balance things out.
So Hunter Biden's laptop. And thanks so much for listening.
And

we will

see you next time.

Thank you. Bye.

Bye.

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