201: Any Upside to Evil? Ft. Gabby Windey

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Enjoy the episode. Will they not even forgive me, but understand like I'm not PC, you know, so like don't come here.
Come here if you want to be offended but don't come here like looking for you know good takes they're all terrible okay i love that this is the energy we're starting off with today this is gonna be so so good and i know hearing you say this i know i picked the right theme for you i'm so excited because is it still like Reddit? Still Reddit. Okay.
A lot of people get scared because like, you know. I'm a Reddit sleuth.
Are you? Yes. You know, sometimes when you're so hung over, you need to feel something and preferably it's like something bad.
I feel so bad about how much I drank and blacking out that I just need to feel worse about something else.

Right.

Like I need to have some kind of emotion and I need a distraction.

So one time I watched my ex-boyfriend's wedding live on Instagram stories when I was so hungover.

It did the job.

I felt all right.

I would have needed a padded room.

Yeah.

No, literally.

I should have been admitted to the hospital.

Or checking yourself into the ICU where you used to work.

Hail, though.

ASAP.

So then when I was on Bachelorette, I did a similar thing.

I was so hungover.

I forget where I was, but I was in like an Airbnb.

And then I looked up my name and it got the job done.

It was terrible.

And I haven't been back.

Thank God.

Because that's a form of self-harm that should not be repeated.

Yeah.

Thank God. Because that's a form of self-harm that should not be repeated.
Yeah. No, I agree.
And like, haters means you made it. I know it's trite and it's like, but like Cardi B, I feel like is wise in some ways.
And I don't know. It just really rings true.
It's like, if you hate me so much and you're going to talk about me about me Like why are you thinking about me so much? Thank you You know That's the question I've been asking Yeah Because the people I hate You will never be solved No and the people I hate the most or like not hate but want to talk shit about Like I am incredibly jealous but I'll Are you? Kinda I see the one like person that I'm just like about like i well there's actually no there's more than one yeah but i just like i literally pop up and i'm like i'm not jealous at all i actually yeah i feel so much pity or maybe pity is not the right word like just like what actions on their end make you feel pity? I don't, I don't know if I feel. Yeah.
I'm just like, I feel so bad. Totally.
Because this is coming from a bad place. Yeah.
Like, you're just such a bad person. Yeah.
And I know how bad of a person you are. And other people don't.
And they like you. Oh, no, I like having that insight too..
Like I like being on the right side of history. I'm so, I told you so.
I will never keep it in. I have such a hard time.
My mom and my brother just like got a new couch recently and I told them, I was like, that's not going to fit. I was like, that's not going to fucking fit.
And they get it in the house and it doesn't fit. And they go.
And you're like, yes.

I go, I literally go, I told you so.

I was like, I just needed one.

I just needed one.

Literally.

But our theme today, which first of all, guys, you might have recognized her amazing voice or her beautiful face if you're watching on YouTube.

But today's host is the lovely Gabby Wendy.

Thank you so much for having me.

I'm so excited.

I'm blown away.

I did.

I told you I did like a full deep dive on you because I like I hate not being.

Thank you so much for having me. I'm so excited.
I'm blown away. I did.
I told you I did like a full deep dive on you because I like I hate not being prepared. But you know, you have lived so many lives.
Yeah. ICU nurse, Denver Broncos cheerleader.
Yeah. On The Bachelor, then The Bachelorette, which splitting a season, they robbed you.
Then dancing with the stars. You robbed you should have won yeah it was a national upset people just like god yeah they just like these things blow over your dancing was insane thank you insane yeah now you're on traders which also i'm obsessed i'm just like this is the greatest show how have i never seen this i'm just like i'm blown away by show.
How have I never seen this? I'm just like, I'm blown away by you. And like every clip I watch, like, first of all, I love how much you scared Alfonso on Dancing with the Stars.
Oh my God. He was the best.
He like didn't know how to handle you. And he was like, you could tell he was kind of scared.
Like, what's Gabby going to say next? But then like just all of your clips, like you are so emotionally intelligent. Thank you.
Like you really are just tuned in and with it. Thank you so much.
I don't want to go to your head too much, you know? No, my head can barely fit, but I'm like, it does come with side effects. Really? Yeah.
Empathy kills. Yeah, literally.
I wish I could back off a little bit. Well, Anne, what's your sign? I'm a Pisces, which I was offended.
You said Pisces better luck next time. I was like, this bitch.
Maybe I don't like her so much. No.
My co-bachelorette, Rachel, is a Pisces. Okay.
Yeah. So, but other than that, I haven't really met a lot, honestly.
Really? Yeah. We're just at home crying.
Literally. I'm like, it just feels like you're very emotional.
I'm already crying. Actually.
Are you okay? We're off to a start, dude. No, I'm a laugh crier.
It's concerning. No, that's the best.
I love when people laugh, cry. I did it once the other day.
I look like a raccoon. That felt good.
I'm just like, okay, literally, why did I put bottom mascara on? But back to emotional intelligence. Sometimes it's like it teeters on the line of judgy.
I'm just like, oh, my God, there's no hope for you. And then I'll continue to pick apart in my head.
So I'm like, I'm trying to come off of that. I'm not judging you.
Okay, thank you. No, I already like being perceived.
Oh, my God. I already like you immediately.
Obviously. Me, come on, imagine.
I passed the Gabby bar. No, I know.
This is so crazy, but I don't want want you i don't know if i'm setting the tone i don't want you to think that i like came in here and and i'm like you know this is my show now yes actually okay please like just i'm gonna put a muzzle on no un muzzle unfiltered i want bad takes i want devil advocate. I want it all.
Today's theme, because obviously you're on Traders right now. And I literally, before I started watching the show, I was like, okay, good theme for Gabby.
Like maybe it's friend or foe. Like it's a slippery slope, a fine line.
I started the show and Alan Cummings is literally like friend or foe. And I was like, the fuck? Okay, this feels meant to be.
But the more I got into these stories, I'm like, it's very clear a lot of them are foe. A lot of them are very like evil.
So I changed it a little bit. And what I'm working with right now, it could change by the time it comes out.
Sometimes my titles do. But it's more more along the lines of like is there any good in this evil uh is there a silver lining here yeah because as you will see these people are unhinged right but maybe there's a little yeah upside maybe not totally but you and your emotional intelligence i feel like you would be the one to find it.

Yeah.

Let's hear it.

Now I'm like getting nervous.

I'm like, oh my God.

You got this.

You're going to crush it.

Let's dive in. Oh, how do I want to start you off today? Give it to me.
Okay. This one is coming from A-I-T-A-H.
Am I the asshole, basically? These I love because I feel like if it's always a woman writing in, they're clearly not the asshole. This is from my data, which is pretty good.

Did you do a double blind study?

Yeah, I did all the research in my head. I'm obviously unbiased being a raging misandrist.

Is that what people tell you?

No, self-proclaim.

Okay. Taking it on.

Literally, which I just found out what that word meant. It's a big word.
Yeah. Maybe a couple months ago.
I'm like, what is this new word misandry? And how have I not been using it by now? But if a man writes in, he's always the asshole. We're going to see.
This first one is coming from a guy. Okay.
Let's see. Am I the asshole? My wife wants me to set a budget for sex as a part of her stay-at-home mom role.
What is it so he's going to pay her for sex? She wants him to set a budget. I think that's genius.
I, male 33, am the breadwinner in our family of four. My wife is a stay-at-home mom, and it's a decision we both agreed on.
I take care of everything financially, food, clothes, bills, household needs, etc. Problem is, my wife wants me to set a budget for sex, meaning she wants to get money for it as she considers it a part of her stay-at-home mom duties.
I love her. Her absurd and unreasonable suggestion, now demand, has caused a huge fight between us.
She said it is her right since she'd work all day and take care of the house and kids then. Then she has to stay up at night so we can have sex together.
And it's exhausting for her and time consuming, as she put it. She's giving me ideas.
I felt extremely upset and disappointed in her behavior, but she says she's in the right and that I'm being too selfish to see it. She keeps demanding it, but I refused.
Am I the asshole here? I mean, I don't know if you're an asshole, but your wife clearly doesn't like you. I just, I'm like, it feels a little goofy to like charge your husband for sex.
Yeah. I'm like, you're pimping yourself out, ma'am.
Right. But it's like, what a safe space to do it.
Like I'm all about sex work and she literally is giving me ideas. I'm going to take this home to Robbie immediately.
I'm like, I want to have compensation. But I mean, yeah, they're always like, it's about communication.
I mean, she's communicating. Yeah.
And it's like, she's thinking about sex as a job. It's not something that she willingly wants to do for pleasure.
It's like, is he making her come?

No.

Right.

No. There's like things left out of the story.

If the sex is her just sucking your little dick for however long,

like she deserves compensation because it is a part of her housewife duty.

Yeah.

If you're going down on her for hours, doing your due diligence, then maybe maybe the price could be lower but I still think there could be a price five dollars per blowjob just a little something here's a coffee babe right I I don't know like I so I just went to Amsterdam for the first time oh did you go to a sex show? I didn't. I was a little intimidated.
We went. Was it good? No.
It was traumatizing. Really? Yes.
We went to this one that was highly recommended by her. Which one? Because there's like, I'm trying to remember the names now.
There was a Moulin Rouge there. Oh, it definitely wasn't that.
And there was like like oh what was the one that was really there's a bunch yeah i'm like i wanted to this one was packed it was mostly packed with dudes like red flags sitting in the corner in a very suspicious position i know robbie and i were immediately like oh my god don't get too close we can't let anybody know we're lesbbians because we don't know what's going on here. Highly recommended by her lesbian friend who was just there, who was obviously very, what do you call it when you're not getting a lot of sex and you're sexually- Deprived.
Yeah. Or like angst.
Frustrated. Yeah.
I am having word finding issues, which is like par for the course so she's sexually frustrated sat for three hours at this show you can just go anyway she gave us the rec we hours yes it was like i just always think like yeah are they being well compensated do they have the right to say no? Like that was immediately where my mind went

because this guy's dick was a weapon.

It was huge.

It could like penetrate her chest cavity.

Oh my God, she could have been kebobbed.

But back to this one.

Should she be able to charge?

And should he have to set a budget?

It's definitely not normal to ask for compensation um for sex with your husband but it's like i want to know where her mindset is because yeah i feel like if it feels like a duty for her there must be a reason behind it so it's like naturally like a man i don't think he's giving us all the information. I do think they need to go to therapy and talk about it and like figure it out.
Yeah, I don't know. I'm not for it or against it.
I'm very curious about the context. I will say like when I was looking for stories this week, I think there's an epidemic of bad sex or like unequal sex.

Yeah.

The amount of stories I saw from like, please help me be attracted to my boyfriend.

We've been together for seven years and I've never come.

Yeah.

Be a lesbian.

Seven years?

Why are you not making her come? Like, have you ever heard heard of a vibrator do you not believe in toys in the bedroom no like you need to grow up i personally know multiple dudes we've like as a friend group sat down and had this conversation they do not look at toys as okay they think it's like replacing them and it's competition it's like yeah no it's like you're so insecure to like think like that it's like Robbie doesn't even have a dick and she makes me come more than any man why why are they so threatened and I just like I see I can't have an unbiased see there's that misandry it's the mis It's the misandry. Yeah.
And it's like, I love audacity.

So you like it.

You're like, yeah.

I'm like, this bitch is like, and being a stay-at-home mom is not easy.

Hardest job there is.

Yes.

You get to leave the kids and I can barely take care of the house.

I'm so exhausted when I come home.

But it's like, you get to leave.

You know, I used to be a nurse and like, and the moms would be like no this is a break and our job our job what you know working in the hospital was grueling I'm like oh my god what are kids like if this is if this is like your respite like fuck that it makes having kids sound so great yeah yeah do you want kids like I I go back and forth all the time I'm kind of like in the like the position of like if it happens it happens I really don't want to be pregnant it's like my problem yeah I'm like that concept like really freaks me out like a little thing like potentially breaking my legs making my breaking your what oh my god are you expected to have some people's pelvis breaks when they come out yeah breaking my ribs oh my god lose their teeth your hair falls out where you got to get off reddit you gotta get off reddit have you seen the girl with the list? No, but she, this is, yeah. As women, we are meant to have kids because also to contribute to the many lives.
I am a dropout of sorts, which I think adds to my resume. I went to a year and a half of midwifery school.
I was going to get my master's. Yeah.
That's cool. it's a fun word to say midwifery um yeah that's why I did it it's a good pronunciation yeah but um so we learned a lot about pregnancy for for someone who doesn't want kids like I am extremely interested and cannot stop talking about like my vagina because I think it's a complex creature I don't think we talk about it enough.
No, we don't. Just like so much is going on.
And like I feel like I'm coming from a scientific standpoint. So it's like more educational.
But anyways, as a woman, we are meant to have babies. I don't know what this girl is doing losing her teeth.
She needs to go to the dentist. No, like the baby needs so much calcium.
And if you don't have enough, it just takes it from your teeth. What about a calcium supplement? Some people don't do it until it's too late and the teeth are just gone.
Okay. I do think this is like, yes, an abnormal case, but I'm the opposite.
I want to be pregnant, but I don't want to raise it. I'm looking for a surrogate.
No joke.

Yeah.

But. I want to be pregnant, but I don't want to raise it.
I'm looking for a surrogate. No joke.
Yeah. But no, it's really women's bodies are just so incredible.
You'd really get into pelvic floor therapy. Yeah.
You should really get on that. I fuck with kegels.
That's a part of it. Yeah.
I want to do a dumbbell. Oh my God.
You're giving that new show with Amy Adams, Night Bitch. Oh, yeah.
Have you seen the trailer where she's like, I can crack a walnut in my vagina. That's literally going to be you just carrying around a dumbbell.
Yeah, I hear. You can put a dumbbell on the end of it.
What? I'm thinking of Five Pounder. Like one of those ones you get on Amazon that has that like weird material around it that you can like use at home.
Oh my God. I know.
You know what you should just do is just use the Bala. What's the Bala? You know those Bala bangles that everyone was obsessed with during COVID? The little arm weights.
Okay. They make like a pill.
It literally looks like a beat pill and it's like workout material silicone. They have five pounders.
See? Just so everyone knows, I don't have actually any pelvic floor issues. It's like totally fine if you're wondering.
Robbie has nothing but good things to say. A plus report cards, people.
Yes. This is just like purely curiosity.
It's bucket list. Totally.
I just like like the idea of it. I'm like that too.
I just like wonder about things like pegging. It's kind of one of those bucket list things.
Like everyone, if you don't get curious about like obscure and random things, what are you doing? Right. What is there to live for? Nothing.
Yeah. Might as well be gone tomorrow.
Right. Just running the rat wheel.
Come on. Mix it up a little.
Right. Yeah.
Peg your husband. Let's go.
Oh, my God. I'm just going off the deep end with you today.
Please hit me. We literally, I don't know if it's appropriate for online.
We'll reconvene. No, yeah, you can bleep.
Yeah, that's my problem is I don't know what is appropriate for YouTube. I'm like, I'm not even monetized, so I can't get demonetized.
But I'm definitely on. We gotta get you monetized.
I'm definitely on that route because I'm screaming things, I guess, that I shouldn't be screaming. Honestly, though, people love the chaos so yeah let's just plug it early if you want another amazing podcast to listen to long-winded yes on YouTube clearly yeah yeah let's get her monetized people actually please do the lord's work I was a nurse for eight years living paycheck to paycheck like yeah give me a break and you were chilling at the same time as nursing weren't you which like you don't get you i've heard some nfl teams have to like buy their own uniforms um like all of them yeah the first thing when i first made the cheer squad and we have to like go over our contracts and documentation literally

the first clause was like we are denver broncos cheerleaders llc so immediately they're setting the tone that you are not a part of the nfl would do it again and again and again i love my tits and my chin like that is so empowering and shout out to the Victoria's Secret bombshell bra there we go literally we kept them in business but yeah no we don't get paid anything I think as a cheerleader and as a nurse I was making around $40,000 a year. $40,000 to $45,000.
Like literally one of the most valuable professions we have. Nurses, teachers.
And like why do we pay them so poorly? Yeah. I know terribly.
Yeah. Okay.
Moving along to the next one. Okay.
Hit me. Oh my god.
I didn't even read the top comment. I'm just so fab's what i know this is what i want to hear i know they're gonna be like whatever she shouldn't be doing that like so lame honestly so i read it as sex because i knew what word yeah but he wrote it as s comma x like he felt like he couldn't say sex or something.
So the top comment, you can say sex on the internet, bud. Literally, as it should.
Because it's like, I love when people comment like that on Reddit because immediately they're like, this is so throwaway. Nobody gives a fuck.
Next one, info. Does she have any spending money where she is not accountable to you for what she spends it on? It may just be that she has no breathing room when it comes to money and wants some that is hers for whatever she wants yeah i didn't think about that maybe there's some financial abuse here and this is like her last right law and chance to get an allowance totally because that'd be bad right because then he should already one he should address it and he should already be like understanding that and two i don't know i'm i'm obviously full of shit and speaking from a place of i don't know but it's like who cares just pay her but that i understand that it would make him feel like yeah like it's more procedural but

this already feels procedural like something here is clearly not right right like yeah I don't think she's being satisfied because otherwise if you were being satisfied and it was like a mutually beneficial thing which is what sex should be right you wouldn't ask for money for it yeah yeah totally huh I totally. Huh.
I know. I know.
Okay. Well, on to the next one.
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My 29 male girlfriend, 27 female, has a blackmail folder on her computer. She has one on me too.
What should be my next move? Oh, I'm speechless. A blackmail folder.
Let's get into this one. Okay.
So I've been with my girlfriend for about six months, and we've had zero big issues. We have opposite personalities.
I always try to be chill, and she's more strict and more of a decision maker. She comes from money and works for her family's corporation, and she's told me that it changed her brain chemistry because she has to work really hard to be taken seriously because of her age and relation to the business.
Can relate as a nurse. So you start young and nobody takes you seriously, especially doctors.
And it's like, well, what did you hire me for? She's someone that has to have control over every decision and has a way of getting her way, even with something as simple as deciding where to eat. This hasn't bothered me too much until I found out the extent of it.
She has a laptop that she guards with her

life. I don't know why, but the other night when she got up to pee, she didn't close it properly,

and I just jumped into Snoop while she was in the bathroom. I don't even know what I was looking for,

but I found a blackmail folder of everyone from her business partners to friends and family.

She had a full-time job. I don't even know what I was looking for, but I found a blackmail folder of everyone from her business partners to friends and family.

She had a folder on her uncle having a gay sexting session, had a folder on some random guy cheating on his wife. I don't even know how she got it.
She had screenshots of her friends old tweets And I even found a folder on what I think were my initials, but I couldn't open it before she got back. Again, I never had any issues with her and I was going to keep dating her.
But now I'm genuinely worried. You should be worried.
Maybe paranoid. Yeah.
I haven't done anything bad. But what if she took pictures of me without me knowing or something like that oh my god i'd be so embarrassed i don't know what to do and people love victims so like don't worry okay well there's the good and the evil yes there you go yeah yeah i feel like i feel like i need to go back um to so she must have learned something along the way through working with her family's corporation that's like making her extra vigilant what is this corporation the cia yeah exactly yeah well it could be yeah what is this spy that's what it's giving like what is going on and then i understand like nobody takes her seriously but i don't think that lends itself to blackmail but maybe she's just been like so fucked in the past that she's ready to fuck someone over but like i don't do you watch real housewives of new york no i see clips yes so dorinda has this amazing saying that she's like say it forget it write it regret it it's like things in print oh i know it's so good because if you like say something kind of like fucked up like people will like it's like whatever it'll blow over yeah you have more context it's not that like what like you you know, it's easier kind of just to forgive.
And maybe understand everybody does it differently. But if you write it, that's like it's in stone.
Yes. And that's what she has on her computer.
So it's like, why can't you just keep it in your head? Can't you just make mental folders in your head and like talk shit when you need like her paranoia that she has to have like folders on the computer? I would be afraid. I would be terrified.
Yes. You got to get out.
And how is how? Yes. Before you get out, you have to delete your folder.
But don't you think she could just get it again? Right. She would back that shit up.
oh she's got a hard drive yeah happy of this i mean the fact that she has her uncle's sexting conversation yeah how'd she get that she had to get into his phone screenshot it and then send it to herself like she's good yeah and in a bad way but like she's good at what she's doing And so. And so nerdy.
So nosy and so curious. It's like who has the energy? I just cannot find the energy literally for anything else besides like getting up in the morning and coming here.
Oh, thank God you came here. Yeah.
I just cannot be bothered. No, I get that.
I'm flaky. I'm so flaky.
Like this is is nothing about you but like sometimes i'll have people coming on or like i have to do something and i'm like god i just hope they cancel i just want to stay home today all the time every time yeah it's always fine when you go you're like oh my god i love my friends i love my community yes but before it's hard um. Literally.
But it's like, yeah, how does he get out? Literally. Because you have to do it in a way where she's not mad at you.
You have to make it. It's her idea.
Yeah. I think you blackmail the blackmailer.
Ooh. I think you mental gymnastics, backflip, full twist, your way out of the relationship.
Get a file on her. Yes.
Get the blackmail. I mean, you have the ultimate blackmail because you know she has the blackmail arc.
Right. This is like Noah collecting all the little animals.
She's got this locked and loaded. Yeah.
So it's like if you just are like, hey, saw that. Right.
Didn't love it. I'm going to go and just slow like Homer Simpson fade into the bush.
Yes. Like I'm going to go.
Yeah. Yeah.
And if you blackmail me, I have stuff on you. If you try anything, like you just really can't because he honestly has the power.
I hope he realizes that. He probably probably won't because like this could go so wrong like i mean you never know what someone like this is capable of like genuinely i'm like okay i'm i know i'm spiraling a little bit but like yeah who knows she could jump from blackmail to murder we don't know literally so you have to like set it up where you're like if i go missing or something something happens to me, there's an automatic email that gets.
Yeah. You got to like trip her up a little bit.
Or. Yeah.
Option B. Have you heard about weaponized incompetence? Oh, no.
But this is going to be my new favorite word. Okay.
Maybe. It's literally.
It's. When people play dumb.
Or they purposefully do things wrong or bad. So they never have to do it again.
So you see this a lot on Reddit in like hetero like relationships. And it's like, I asked my husband to like help with the laundry.
And every time he does the laundry, he ruins my clothes. So I can't have him do it anymore.
Like people will fuck shit up on purpose to not have to do it.'s evil I think that would be option B to get out though yeah that's actually diabol how would he weaponize everything she would just blackmail him she would like get receipts and be like he's doing this stuff on purpose she would twist it and this is the problem as much as I'm a raging misandrist also there's like it just like it takes one sometimes there's like one woman who fucks it up it's like elizabeth holmes you really got to ruin it for us and she's like on that path so it's like come on girl yeah i think maybe like a fade out um I was thinking like a cheating scandal.

Ooh.

And he could get ahead of it.

That's safe.

Yeah.

But then I think it would really set her off.

So it's like not safe.

It's kind of like whatever.

Going into a lion's den.

Yeah.

I don't know if that's possible.

I don't know.

I'm concerned for him. Yeah.
Same. For for his safety You think he's going to get murdered I do I'm like you never know Too bad Reddit's anonymous Maybe he should go into witness protection program He should look into WITSAC Top comment With 4,000 upvotes Break up with.
She seems like a vengeful person and readily armed to destroy whoever betrays her. Just tell her in these six months, you've really enjoyed the time you've spent together, but you realize you're entirely different people.
You respect and admire her work ethic, but you're not so organized about every single detail. You're carefree, chill, laid back, and prefer a lifestyle and partner who can match your personality.
That you both do have opposite personalities, and in the long run, you don't see this truly working out. Basically tell her something she can believe.
Lie if you have to. And run.
Don't even bother deleting that folder or bringing it up. Leave as amicably as you can not piss her off yeah she is vindictive she prefers to ruin someone's life this is not wife material unless you're in the mafia yeah um i kind of disagree i absolutely disagree that she should delete the file because what's she gonna do get mad at him for black black for blackmailing him is like I don't think that's going to happen and I don't I don't know I'm like does he blow it up and confront her get the receipts I do think I think he should blackmail the blackmailer I think he should set up hidden cameras.
And capture the folder. Yeah, because there's reason to.
And then go first get a restraining order. She's going to do some crazy shit.
Get the, get the, I think we need to get the law involved. Take her to court and then take her down.
He needs to be stacked with a plan. There's no way that he's going to be able to get out of this amicably.

I feel terrible.

She's going to stalk him after.

Even if he did end it amicably, I think she would still keep tabs on him.

Yeah, absolutely.

For this folder.

Yeah, he's fucked for life.

She has her friends old tweets.

Why are you trying to blackmail your friends?

Your friends.

Yeah. No, you need to have have their back it's so strange yes like i support women's rights and wrongs like that's where we're at these days well we have no update from op so he's so damn bad so fucked there's no comments When was it? How long ago was it posted? 17 days ago.
Yeah, no, he's like, he could be dead. He could be dead.
Yeah. Like.
It's not going well for him. And sometimes I wonder, sometimes I can be a victim blamer.
I hate that about myself. Unless, unless you're a woman.
But he's not. And like largely you guys, I do have his back.
Give me a break. But also.
There's jokes. Yeah.
There's jokes there. Aren't there clues in the beginning? It's like how do people get themselves in situations like this? This to me me feels like i don't i don't think you ever would have known you had to have known like what if you go home tonight and you find out that robbie has a folder on you yeah like would you have known were there signs that you could look back now and be like you know she was screenshotting a lot of my text, yeah, I think sometimes you just get sucked in and it's blindside.
I stare at Robbie's phone. She doesn't even have a lock on her screen.
And every time she. What? Yeah.
What about pickpocketers? She doesn't care. She one time she got her phone stolen on the airplane.
And it's like, whatever. We just like, I know.
She, I don't know. What? Maybe she doesn't have a hidden folder.
My iCloud was leaked or hacked. And my nudes were almost leaked.
And I. Did you pay a ransom? He wanted me to.
But, you know, he wanted me to send him more photos. He sent me back my leaked nude.
This could have been the best day of my life. This could have catapulted me into fandom that we could not expect.
I was begging him at this point, taunting and teasing. Even the police called me the other day and they were like, do you want me to this case and i'm like absolutely don't go after this man i need him to leak my nudes because the picture he sent back to me was so hot was so i had fake hair in my extensions where i was like really um this is the one literally i was inspired by Island UK girls.
This gets me the Playboy spread.

Yes.

Sports Illustrated.

Yeah, my hair was down to my ass.

It was a tasteful nude.

I think you could maybe see a centimeter of a nipple.

So I'm like, why?

Let it go, baby.

Yeah, get it out there.

I'm like, please leak this.

But it was in my hidden folder.

And so he got in there.

I don't think Robbie has a hidden folder.

And she would just fully, like, she knows my password, too.

She could go through my phone.

And I could go through hers.

Gabby, there's someone, like, this is you.

This story is you.

No.

Someone hacked you and has your intimate stuff in a folder, a blackmail folder.

Yes, but we're not dating.

No.

Like, you're part of the story. There's that.
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I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, I'm the story yeah no and they called me and then it was like this is sick and twisted it was from or i had found out that they were hacking from houston and i was like oh i want to be on a flight there my mom lives in houston and we're strange. And I'm like, what a story.

If my mom leaked my nudes, it could compound my astronomical fame.

And I'm a serious victim in a sick way.

Hopefully your hacker sees this.

Yeah.

I've been talking about it.

I've been like for so long.

I'm like, please pay attention.

Leak the news.

I'm dead. I'm just just like i'm crying again this is just so good wow well everyone say a little prayer for gabby yes that her nude gets leaked please please please please please please people are like they would dm me and be like oh i know you're coping with humor and i not coping.
Like, no, like there's nothing to cope. No, I'm actually more pissed that it hasn't happened.
Right. Like we need this for ourselves.
I'd also like to retire in four years. But like, I don't have a savings account.
I have an IRA. Well, that counts.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Jenna, my editor over here, she's like, I need to start an IRA.
And I'm like, yeah, it is time. Yeah.
You got it. You're doing good.
Right. I think it's fine.
I want to get on like the stonks subreddit again. Stonks? Stonks.
With an N? Yeah, they call it stonks. Instead of stocks? Yeah.
But I want to be like on that, like, remember GameStop? Yes. Like, let me in on some gamestop type action like i want to tank meta and then and then buy it when it's really low and like yeah i just want to be i want to be in on the stonks do you do crypto no surprise i don't believe in crypto that's surprising with the gamestop i would have for sure thought you'd fuck with Bitcoin.
I get crypto?

Yeah. Do you know the crypto queen?

No.

Um, it's not that interesting.

Anyways.

That's fine.

Next story.

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Okay, this next one I'm super deeply concerned about. This is coming from relationship advice.
I'm a 29-year-old female and my long-term partner, 29 male, is creating AI porn with unsuspecting women he knows in real life. I'm trying to understand if most men are doing this.
No. Well, who knows, actually? The XY species chromosome is going downhill fast.
The Y chromosome is losing its genes literally by the second. Is it really? Yeah, they only have 50 left.
And they started with like, I don't know, 51. I think they started with like a thousand.
Is that just like a lack of diversity in breeding? Yeah.

It sounds so weird to say, but I'm like, what is... I think they started with like a thousand.
Is that just like a lack of diversity in breeding?

Yeah.

It sounds so weird to say, but I'm like, what is, what? I don't know. It's like, this is nature versus, this is just our nature happening.
I want to say natural selection, but I don't think that's the right word. And by the second, I I mean it'll take a million years for the Y chromosome to fully um disappear I hope I'm back in some kind of life oh just to see it yeah yeah but um I'm not around a lot of men I've noticed daily my manager is a man surprisingly he's a real one um and, and that's about it.
So I do not know what dudes are up to. Yeah.
But I wouldn't be surprised if most of them are doing AI porn. That is...
Let's get... We've got a little more.
We've got a little more info for you. I'm getting ahead of myself.
I found out that my 29 male boyfriend of eight years is creating AI porn with women he knew from college, possibly his coworkers, etc. I am betrayed, humiliated, and disgusted.
I can't believe he thinks his own pleasure is so important that he can violate the safety, privacy, dignity of unsuspecting women who are not consenting to this. Also, it feels pretty illegal.
It's totally illegal. Or at least it should be.
I'm trying to figure it out. Is this something that most men are doing now? Do I just have to accept that this is what porn is now? I'm aware that I should walk away if it's something I'm not okay with.
What I'm really trying to figure out is if most men are doing this. I would really appreciate honest input across genders.
And this, sorry to interrupt, this is what women do. We try and make excuses for disgusting behavior.
That should not be the first thing. I mean, I hope to God, I'm looking at you men, that you're not creating AI porn.
I have your back for once. I think this guy's maybe sick and twisted.
This is sick and twisted. Do not try and what do you call that word? I'm not wrecking.
You're looking for a big one though. I am.
I can't figure it out. Don't try and make excuses for this guy or make it normal.
Go to the police. Yeah.

This is like revenge porn. This.
It feels. It.
Yeah. That's the one thing like, and I know it kind of got brought into the light, but it hadn't until this thing.
But Taylor Swift, they were making like AI, like very graphic images, porn like in nature of her. and then she was the first one to like be like okay no there needs to be laws about this because as of right now i don't think there is oh my god ai is like so on the verge of like all of this like our government like right now cannot keep up with how fast technology moves you want to ban tiktok because you're scared of china but everyone flocks to red note which is actually communist china like literally you can't keep up with how fast technology moves.
You want to ban TikTok because you're scared of China, but everyone flocks to Red Note, which is actually communist China. Like literally you can't keep up with it.
And like, that's kind of where they're at with AI, it seems. So I'm like, I don't know if this is illegal, but this is sick.
And all of the women, they deserve to know because I wouldn't want this person who's creating AI deepfake porn of me. I wouldn't want them near me ever again.
This is gross. You're getting off on me and playing it like you're just my friend or a coworker.
Yeah, right. Yeah, literally, why can't you like keep your dick in your pants? Why do you have to like make porn out of people that you're close with in real life? Part me is like if you're not sharing it it's not as like maybe it's okay no i'm kidding it's terrible imagine if he is like posting it on porn hub or something no i bet he is this guy knows no boundaries well to like have the technology and know how to do this that's also like such an investment like you just went above and beyond any normal guy yeah like just going on pornhub and looking up porn no he's proud of his work you know he's sending it to all of his sick friends because who is he surrounding himself with for one and i know i didn't realize that about ai but it makes sense and like lawmaking and stuff so but like this i mean how many like upvotes does it have on reddit is it the post yeah is two months old uh it's only got 1.1k upvotes it feels like it feels like it flew under the radar yeah naturally because it has to do with like women being abused and their their rights but it's like this story, if she could go public with it, she could be the one to probably lead the lawmaking.
Or I'm sure there's a loophole that it's like, even if it's not AI, there should be a way that it could categorize itself into something illegal, please. It does.
I bet you could put it in revenge porn revenge porn yeah especially because there's no consent from the other parties obviously right but then like whoever's defending him sick fuck 2.0 is gonna be like well it's not actually their faces you know which like yeah It makes it even worse. Oh, my is gotta break up she and she has to expose him 100 she needs to go undercover this girl needs to meet the other guy yep who has the blackmail they need to come together figure out a plan how to blackmail these people, get out safely.
Because, yeah, I feel like, well, I mean, she can't have that stuff. She's got to steal his computer.
She needs a plan in place. Take the computer straight to the cops.
100%. Yeah.
100%. Block him.
Block, delete, restraining order. And they've been together for eight years.

Eight years.

And she just found it. How did she find it again?

So she's so down bad.

She's like, I love this guy.

It's like, did you hear the story of Giselle Pelico?

No.

In France?

No.

Oh my God.

This is so sick and twisted.

It doesn't even.

Oh my God.

The woman whose husband. Yes.
Yes. and they were married for like 30 years yes it's like can you imagine no the love of your life you're betrothed doing this crazy like going way out of the way coming up with this sick depraved plan no like you wouldn't believe it no like if my fiancee did like anything like this or like i'm like he's such a fucking unicorn like he's he's such a gem and like i imagine that's what these people feel like like right the love of my life my person he's so supportive has my back like and to find out something so gut-wrenching despicable like right no it would crush me as a person.
is why i think we need to bring the electric chair back yeah like no joke yes like yeah buzz his ass people need to be scared of their of consequences again yeah no actually and like don't go easy on him i feel like they should do it multiple times yeah yeah no it's um i was gonna say oh yeah giselle Pelico her husband like because she was having symptoms you know of like lethargy and blackouts and stuff and like losing her hair he would take her to her doctor's appointments and like try and figure out what's going on so he was like feigning all the gas yes I'm like oh my God, the level of personality disorders and sociopath that is like embedded in these people is insane. But this, and it's a lot of responsibility.
I don't think you always have to take on the responsibility. But if she's listening, you could lead this because now people are going to do it.
Now that they have this right and idea from reddit it's going to happen a lot i know i feel like even just i'd get on the local news right like you don't have to name him but like like hey this is out there like i don't even know like i'm just i'm a little distraught over this one there is no good in this one i guess like no the fact that she found out at least and is not gonna marry this person because after dating for eight years like that's the path you're treading right yeah top comment on this one yeah no wait no oh yeah literally just no yes yeah and i do. I think.
I believe that this is real. Yeah.
I don't think this is a troll post. No, no, no.
I believe it's real. Yeah.
No. One time I tried to do the math of Sophie Rain, the OnlyFans girl who made like 40 million in one year.
Holy. But it's like, I know.
i want to know her subscribers and how much they pay because i i was high naturally so i was trying to like um make a formula to see how many subscribers she had and basically i learned that maybe it was the size of the city of denver i can't tell you. I was reading fake news.
Wait, I want to, what's her name? Sophie Rain. I'm going to look.
I want to see. And it could then on Reddit naturally, there were conspiracies like this isn't true.
It's a marketing tactic from her management and they're telling her to say these things so more girls will sign up for OnlyFans.

I'm like, okay, I believe that. But I'm wondering if there's dudes that, and like not saying that all dudes who subscribe to OnlyFans like will make AI porn.
Yeah. But it could be a gateway drug.
I'm just lost

I don't know

What is life?

What is life? What is life? Well I'm like I'm also looking at her OnlyFans Like she's got a 50% off deal So it's only 5 bucks Okay For a month So to get to 40 million Right And she's only got only Right like only Yeah But like I'm like thinking in terms of 40 million right 843k likes like the like right where is this y equals mx plus b like what's happening right because i'm wondering if you can do anonymous i'm i'm like maybe dudes are like flying under the radar and like not subscribing or not liking, but still paying the $5. 100% because they don't want to get caught.
Right, because they're not being found out. I'm sorry that this is the XY chromosome.
This is your brethren, not mine. I think this is why like guys need to talk to each other more in general.
Yeah. Like I, my in for guys this year is like, start really developing emotional intimacy with your friends.
Yeah. Because like, there's a problem.
There's a lonely, there's a loneliness epidemic for men and they don't have to, like they're putting themselves in this lonely box and like, right. talk.
Create intimate relationships. Like, talk to people.
And, like, check in with your friends. Like, hey, you're not creating AI porn, right? That's bad.
Literally, yeah. Like, check in.
Totally. Keep everyone in line.
Have you heard of this? Yeah. Because I think, like, they are trying to make up for the fact that they cannot be emotional for one another with sex.
But it's like that because like what is even though I was talking about a lesbian who is sexually frustrated, whatever, forget I said it. OK, I can have a double standard.
I take it back. But it's like, is it there's such thing as being sexually frustrated or is it an excuse to make AI porn? It's like, you mean why how much do you you know that thing where they told you in like junior high like dudes think about sex every five seconds i wonder if that's true for 30 year olds right and then i internalized it and i was like i don't want to think about sex every five seconds you know i was like humping the couch but it's like internalized misogyny we all go through it

do they about sex every five seconds. You did? And I was like humping the couch.
But it's like internalized misogyny. We all go through it.
Do they tell us that though in order to make sex more acceptable? Like is that a condition? Yes. Is they trying to condition us with that statement? Yeah, probably.
All subconsciously and maybe consciously. And this is a thing.
I could be, what's your demo like? You probably have men listening, unfortunately. I have a lot of people that, I do have some dudes.
Hi, guys. Hopefully they're all gay.
A lot of people listen with their partners, which is, that's something I really love hearing because it's like, they can pause this and be like, what do you think of this? Like, you're not,'re not you don't think ai porn is acceptable right like i think a lot of people use this as like a tool to talk to their partners oh my god i love that love yes and i even have like some fans that will write to me like i had one recently which thank you i can't like i can't respond to all of them um but i do try but i had one that was like we were watching Traders and my husband my husband cannot understand you and then we went on a deep dive through your TikTok and podcast and now he's a stan I'm like I love a convert yes those are my favorite because I'm like an acquired taste is expensive you have to have a mature palate if you like mushrooms you're shelly now so like i'm expensive is what you're saying i just like i don't understand how people couldn't back you like your tiktok is hilarious like every social media clip or any like media i engaged with you in it i'm like i'm obsessed you're so funny oh my god thank you so smart thank you stop my no i just like i was like we we made the right person famous you know when like people joke about that oh thank you not that i i mean i got a knock on wood i became a recent fan the chair the chair the chair you have this on purpose yeah yeah yeah no thank you and um and like I want to be on your side, but you're not doing yourself any favors. But I hope that the majority of men are not making A.I.
porn. I think I think we're safe.
Yeah. I would say this is like a select.
Right. Few.
And if you are making A.I. porn with my face, let me see it before you release it.
it here it could just hack her and just put it in her inbox yeah let me see like i might be on your team like given um what kind of positions like what what kind of art we're making um if it's tasteful right you could reconsider it could also blow my career up um i'm not against it i think traders i just have a good vibe about this show i'm obsessed i literally watched the first episode and then i had a dream i didn't sleep last night i had a dream that i got put in the show that's how much i liked it like it's so good they take ai with all my argyle sweaters and your fits were scottish outfits oh my god thank you it's like alan coming in the background rolling his r's just let me know i love it okay moving along okay I'm gonna give you some

Male on male crime

Ooh

This is also coming from

Relationship advice

It is titled, my partner

28 male whispered

I hate you

When he thought I, 37 male

Was asleep

Do you think he means it?

Oh my god

Me, 37 male, was asleep. Do you think he means it? Oh my god.
Me, 37 male, and my partner, 28 male, have been together for seven years. We've had arguments in the past and almost broken up more than once.
The arguments have calmed down and gotten less frequent over the years. We had an argument today while making dinner.
I put the dry pasta in the pot before putting in the boiling water from the kettle, and this really got him angry. I was supposed to heat up the water in the pot and then put the pasta in.
He stopped talking to me for the rest of the evening. Sorry, you deserve it.
Have you ever made pasta before? He went into a different room and I went to bed. At about 2 a.m.
He came into the room and he thought I was sleeping and whispered, I hate you and walked back out. I tried to go talk to him at around 2 30 a.m., but he is not responding to me, just sitting on his iPad.
He may be calmed down by tomorrow. What are your thoughts on this? I think if he's on any kind of medication, he needs an adjustment.
I hate to say when I'm in between meds or going, I'm upping my dose, this could be me. The pasta just sets you off.
Yeah, but it does take a certain person who could be capable of more to whisper in your ear. I hate you.
Or maybe it's like a kink. Like this feels sexual to me.
And it might work. I mean, for me.
Is this dirty talk? Because my mom also hated me. And like that works on me.
It reminds me of my childhood. So I don don't know I'm kind of on but you guys I said this is a part I don't like about myself like some I can be a victim blamer I want to change it oh my god see I'm sitting here and I'm like if my partner walked into the room when they think I'm asleep and they whisper I hate you I would be concerned I'd be like am I gonna get stabbed over pasta like am I like do I have to sleep with one eye open clearly so I don't know like maybe there's some people that like could get turned on by this I think our writer could be in that boat because he doesn't seem scared he's more so like like, right.
Do you think he means it? Or he literally goes, yeah. Do you think he means it? Yeah.
These they always ask the question like the wrong question. It's like, do you think other men are making a that's besides the point? If other men are making a porn you and it's like, yeah, partner is whispering i hate you wow like what i think i need more context but yeah normal people would be like i need to run yeah i this is confusing i think you have to like take people at their word more i think a lot of people are struggling with that lately yeah we see it in you know politics and everywhere like oh well i i didn't think that was a a salute what do you he was joking yeah take it for what it is right like yeah no believe people at what they tell you like yeah if someone says they hate you why do they do especially.
Like, as kids, we would be like, I hate you. I hate you.
You stinky. You know? Yeah.
Yeah. Like, and that must hurt, by the way.
If I did, this is also why I don't want kids. Because, like, if they said they hate you, well, actually, they probably mean it because they have less of a guard.
I know. And it's like, damn, how does that feel? Kids are so honest.
Right. They're so scary.
They're intimidating. Yeah.
Kids are really intimidating. Terrifying.
If I see someone high school age, I'm like, oh my God, are you judging me? Oh, they are. But I'm like, what the fuck? Dude.
You teeny bopper. No.
Every time I go out in public and I just look wrecked, I instantly regret it when I see a group of like trendy, cute girls. And like you just feel that look that like.
Literally. And I'm like, fuck, I should have tried harder today.
I don't try hard for guys. I literally try hard for girls because I'm like.
Same. I know.
Like going into Sephora on a quick stop. No, I only order online now.
Oh, my God. Everyone after school 3.30 PM, flooding Sephora.
I'm like, I've never felt more self-conscious. That is another form of self-harm.
Yes. Don't do that to yourself.
No, we have to stay away. Online only.
And you get better samples and little presents. Oh, really? They give you so many presents if you order online.
Yeah, that's true because you have more options. Well, they like, oh, it's like spend a hundred.
Then you get like five free samples. You just get so much better stuff.
Totally. They don't offer you that in the store.
No. Because they already know they have you.
Right. So true.
And then you get an options of like three. Like one is the tiniest bottle of Pureology you've ever seen.
It's like how much is, but it's like if online it's coming from the warehouse well and then you have to like spend points like do you want to spend a thousand points to get ten dollars off right which like if you think about that you spent a thousand dollars that's what points are they're equal to a dollar that makes me sick uh-huh i'm making myself sick oh my god my God. See, these are things I don't need to know.
These are things I'm better off not knowing. Ah.
But back to the pasta. I mean, he really set this guy off.
How long have they been dating? Seven years. Yeah, this probably isn't the first time it's happened.
And they do have quite an age gap. Yeah.
Our writer is 37. hates him is 28 yeah they've been together seven years so started at 21 and 30 like right very different life points yeah in gay men just don't stay in relationships that long when they're that young have you seen the posts that are yeah just like completely made up you'll like get really into it.
And the comments are like, we don't believe this. And like calling them out and then like whatever, taking it further.
I'm like, I don't know about this. What do you think about the actual like technique too? Because I feel like this isn't.
The technique of I hate you or the pasta. The pasta.
The pasta is totally wrong. I mean, I get it's wrong, but it also feels like a hack.
But the water doesn't stay hot for that long, right? I feel like if it's boiling from a kettle and then you put it on a hot stove, I feel like this is kind of like a hack. I don't love it.
I think he should have poured the boiling water into an empty pot if that's how he wanted to do it. And then added pasta.
Right. But like, I don't.
Is the heat still on is my big question on the pot. So if you're taking the boiling water from the kettle and putting it into a pot without the heat on, that's not going to work.
You're going to have not al dente. No.
I'm'm getting distracted by by this pasta but okay we have a lot of comments from op oh real oh really are you ready yes okay this is the scroll okay here's the original post uh-huh wow yours goes backwards than mine did you set it up like that i don't know My um You get the post and then the top

Yeah, and then I scroll down

Oh my god

I get like the most recent to the oldest

Yeah, same

Maybe a setting

Yeah, yeah

But this is a lot of comments

Yes, I love that

A lot of comments

I was actually asleep and woke up when he came in

People were like

Why didn't you just talk to him or whatever?

Right

People are again kind of getting into the

Why do you add the boiling water?

It's weird

I'm dead

I love it. in people were like why didn't you just talk to him or whatever right um people are again kind of getting into the why do you add the boiling water it's weird i'm dead of course i know how to make pasta i was making it the way i make it which was wrong in his mind apparently he came back in later on around 4 or 5 a.m and said more mean stuff oh he came in again 4 a.m.
to check on me and I can't sleep, but I'm not moving. He whispered, you're a dick.
Then again at 5 a.m., you should die. This is all becoming really suspicious to me because why didn't he include this information in the original post? And at this point, why wouldn't he call him out? And why aren you sleeping like because you got into a fight i think so don't you have any meds on hand some people go raw dog don't you have like i have an emergency stash emergency every day i have gotten like really uh addicted to the cbd sleep gummies ohmies.
I just don't get good sleep without them now. Those are so good.
I am starting to question him because it sounds like when people are like, whatever, calling him out and then you make up more points to back your story because it's like, you're not not going to call him out you're just going to let him whisper in you clearly he hates your guts and you need to break up right i hope you die or whatever like a lot of people are asking to like well maybe you shouldn't have gone for someone so young and op does provide context he went for me i didn't go for him i think everyone has a different path in life no matter what age they are. Thank you for sharing your thoughts about wasting your 20s.
Maybe that is how he feels. Yeah, but I don't, I think it's way less about that.
First of all, it doesn't matter who goes for who. You could still not date someone that young, but it's not even about that.
This guy is whispering concerning things in your ear while you're asleep.

So like I just don't understand why you couldn't call him out.

And I think he's trying to based on the comments. He's like, I clearly know we need to talk.

Yeah.

But he's ignoring me.

And so I think like a lot of times in relationships, like if you have someone that's stonewalling you yeah that's also an answer right right like if you can't have a conversation and be like hey why did you whisper you hate me and that you hope i'll die yeah quick question quick question here did you mean this, just a little concerned. You good? Right.
Like, yeah. Yeah.
If you can't have that conversation, like, I don't really think you have a relationship to fight for. No, not at all.
I mean, if it were me and people, and he, like, whatever, my girlfriend was whispering those things in my ear, I would quick, I don't even want to put in the context of my girlfriend if I were him and my boyfriend was whispering those things I would quick left hook uppercut and get the fuck out you gotta you gotta run right why would you be comfortable sleeping in your bed while this guy I mean they're threatening things. Well, and this is the last comment I'll read, which I think is also really interesting.
A lot of people are, again, talking based on age. Maybe he's resentful.
Maybe he feels like he wasted time or is trapped. Is that an excuse? No, people.
No. Yeah.
And so OP responds, it could be the case that he has grown resentful, but he is the one that wanted the relationship in the first place.

I had just come out as gay and wanted to see other guys.

He had already had two relationships before me.

He didn't want me to see other guys and to be exclusive with him.

So that's what I did.

I don't, this is all a distraction from the problem. I don't like.
I love't like love that you can see through it yeah this is I get lost in the sauce yeah you're like actually it's just about that pasta right it's because you started dating at 21 you deserve to die because you started dating a younger man don't you know but it's like I don't think that excuses his behavior of what's in like who does that what that's why i think it's kind of a kink or a sexual thing because i feel like he's getting off on this the boyfriend the boyfriend and low-key the op and just wants to like check in like hey he left that part out but he's like okay what do you guys think if somebody was whispering this in your ear and and obviously people got distracted but it's like secretly he likes it it's just a kink maybe he maybe he started the whole thing or this is like a really i'm like psychology over here i'm like if this is His first relationship with a guy Yeah, maybe he's like Also deserve to die Maybe he's like really questioning like wait Is this normal like as Crazy as that sounds right but like Obviously like when you started dating your girlfriend Like there's different norms in that relationship And different things you had to like kind of like Mentally like oh no no This is normal like this relationship versus you know like i'm like maybe there's like a little he's kind of mental gymnastic in himself because right it was his first is his first relationship totally yeah that could happen but also that proves my point like gay men are more kinky I don't even know what you're saying. Actually, yeah.
Okay. Actually, totally.
I'm mental gymnastics myself. I'm like, wait, what am I saying? No, because it's like this is his first relationship with a gay dude.
So could be totally baseline yeah this could happen in the culture and maybe this is the first time we're hearing about it as a community how many upvotes does this one have man i lost it i'm so distressed over here i'm crying again guys i'm crying again oh my. I'm crying again.
Oh my God. I literally lost the tab.

That's okay. Okay.
It has 4.4 K upvotes. Okay.
That's a lot. So there should be some gay dudes

in there, but they're probably lurking. Okay.
Let's see. Oh my God.
They found out our deepest

secret. The top comment.
I'm pretty sure he means he hates you. Literally.
Like you're

I'm pretty sure he means he hates you. Yeah.
Literally. Like you were saying, take people at their word.
Like, the next comment, this is a wild guess, but you might just be right. An age gap relationship turned sour, you say? Surprised Pikachu.
But, like, nobody's concerned about the well-being of this guy and the partner saying these crazy things to him while he's asleep. It's like, you know, what's it called when you're sleeping and you play something and it's like it gets into your brain subconsciously by osmosis kind of.
Oh my God. It was like, what is that? There's a word for it.
They're on tapes all the time. Yes.
And like there's that episode of Friends where like Chandler's trying to quit smoking or something. Yeah.
And it's like you're a strong, beautiful affirmations, mantras. It's like a trance.
Psychosis? Yeah, literally. No, hypnosis? It's like a type of hypnosis.
Not psychosis. No, it could be psychosis.
But anyways, maybe the boyfriend is trying to do that while he's asleep. So he'll wake up and be like, oh my God, he hates me.
I should break up. Yeah, yeah.
Maybe this is a passive way a passive way okay also i hope all of these victims are listening to this podcast and they can um collaboratively learn from each other's stories because maybe the guy from the beginning with the crazy girl with the blackmail he could use this tactic too subconsciously give her. Honestly, it's all tied together today.
Yeah, it really is. I need like a moment to decompress after this one.
I know. Oops.
It's a lot to think about. Okay.
Wow. I think I'm going to give you a choice on this next one.
Okay. I'm a little scared.
So option number one,

am I the asshole for calling my brother-in-law's wife insanely entitled after an argument over photos of my sister or I hooked up with my dead ex's sister on accident? On accident? Yeah. On accident? Yeah.
Wait, I have to pick one to do what with to talk about? Yeah. Or I'll give you option three.
Okay. I, 33 male, am developing a crush on my wife's cousin.
How long until these feelings fade? I'll let you pick two if you want. Okay.
I'll pick the last two because I can't deal with the degrees of separation and twice removed in the first one. You're so smart.
You get it. Is it? Okay.
Read it to me again. Okay.
So am I the asshole for calling my brother-in-law's wife? Okay. So his sister was married to that guy.
She died. Okay.
Got it. Insanely entitled after an argument over photos of my sister.
So this new wife is coming in and like, fuck those photos. She's dead.
Oh my God. Wow.
Yeah, I think I'll go with the two dead ones. Two dead ones.
Yeah, because they're not here to defend themselves. Okay.
That's a good tactic. Okay, Let's start with the complicated one first.
Okay. Am I the asshole for calling my brother-in-law's wife insanely entitled after an argument over photos of my sister? My late sister, Anna, was married to my best friend, Josh.
Together, they had two children. My niece is nine and my nephew is seven anna died three years ago josh remarried one year ago his current quick if you ask me justin you better wait at least six years his current wife is hazel i'll confess it has been awkward and uncomfortable and my brother-in-law has admitted that he feels it too.
We're still

close, still best friends too, but it's weird and hurts sometimes to see him with someone else.

I'm happy he's happy, but Anna was my sister, so the emotions are a lot more complex. He does

understand. My niece and nephew have struggled to accept his new wife, Hazel.
My nephew doesn't really remember his mom, but my niece talks about her a lot and brother-in-law talks about her too. He has never wanted to forget her or erase her or let her memory fade.
Hazel and I get along okay. We're not close.
I admit that we don't really talk or engage much. There have been some weird moments.
She didn't love me and my family being at the wedding or taking care of the kids that day. Brother-in-law asked.
Yeah. She had wanted her parents to take care of the kids.
She has also said she finds it weird that I'm Anna's brother. While I struggle with Josh being married to someone who isn't anna I'm also happy for his happiness.
Yeah

A week ago hazel and I got into a fight and it has caused some extra tension

She told me she was uncomfortable in my house

And that I needed to remove the family photos of anna josh and the kids

And of anna and josh's wedding photos

And even mine because anna and josh were in them too

Thank you. Josh and the kids, and of Anna and Josh's wedding photos.
And even mine, because Anna and Josh were in them too. I laughed at first thinking she couldn't be serious, but she was.
She said she always looks to see if I still have them, and then said I should take them down and put up some of them, her and Josh and the kids. Oh my god, Hazel, you're giving us a bad name.
She also wanted me to remove the wall of Anna's art in our dining room. This is different paintings and drawings Anna did for me slash us over the years.
She told me Anna's dead. Anna's the past and her, Hazel, is the future.
Oh my God. Wow.
She doesn't really beat around the bush, does she? I told her, Anna is my sister, not her. And I can have photos of my sister in my home if I want to.
She told me I can't deny her this, because I even have childhood photos of Anna on the walls, and she's letting that go, even though she feels they should be gone too. She said the kids see themselves in her kid photos and it's making her harder for her to get into their hearts.
Okay. She told me I have no right to make her so uncomfortable.
I said she should not be this insanely entitled at her age, 32, and that she should be grown enough to know she can't dictate other people's houses. Josh came in and asked Hazel to go home early.
He asked me to have the kids three days last week, too, which we did. Wow.
Hazel didn't like it and accused me of taking the kids out of spite so I can fill their heads with talk about Anna. Oh, my God.
Hazel's got to go. She called me an asshole and an insensitive jerk.
Oh my God. Am I the asshole? No, no, for once.
No, for once. You got me good.
You're not the asshole. she's obviously so insecure which would be hard because i can't i mean clearly they got married

way too early and they like she's insecure it doesn't sound like I mean I agree that you don't want to lose the memory of your late wife but also it doesn't sound like he's so over her which I don't know if you should ever get over her no but I think. I think that's like, that's a really interesting concept to me.

Because it's not like they broke up.

She died.

Right.

And so I don't know if like you ever get over someone that just died.

There's no closure.

Why can't there be enough room for both of you?

Right.

Right.

Which would be the choice you make marrying into that situation. What was Hazel doing if she's so threatened by a ghost? Right.
right. Which would be the choice you make marrying into that situation.

What was Hazel doing if she's so threatened by a ghost? Right. Yeah, literally.
Hazel, if you're not stepmom material, don't fucking sign up for it. Yeah, yeah.
That was a choice. Yeah, absolutely.
And I feel like something could be making her insecure. Yeah.
Because, and naturally, because also she's definitely not the woman for the job, but him, the best friend and brother-in-law, also is still very entrenched with the late wife's family. So it's not like not saying you should move on he this is how he's making his choice is to still be very much involved with the what's the late wife's name we don't know anna with anna's life so it would make it harder for hazel so it's like i feel like they just shouldn't have married i'm i'm like actually confused how they got married.
Right. You didn't get any sense, like the Josh guy.
Josh, you didn't get any sense that this girlfriend, this new, you know, fiance, now wife of yours, hates your late wife's family. Yeah.
Wants to exclude them every step of the way. Right.
And it's not just like, okay, this is his late wife's family.

Like, that's reason enough to, like, join and still remain close. But, like, that's also his best friend.
Like, he met Anna, his late wife, because they were besties. Right.
Like, what? Yeah. No, totally.
That's not just, like, going to go away. No.
That doesn't, like, leave your life. And the guy the guy the op is like very involved with the kids and like babysitting and stuff which is like what's the not dead ones hazel i have recall no names are tough um now i forgot what i was gonna say were you about to talk about the village the village like it takes a like he's got a good village.
Right. Right.
I wasn't going to say the village, but that is a good point. Yeah.
But now that you said it, it does. He needs to like marry someone who's more chill and who gets it.
Probably a widower. Honestly, I've got a friend.
She's super down to be a stepmom. Yeah.
She might prefer it yeah but it it same that's what I always said like if which I would literally pray to God and be like I know there's a God if if I married someone who doesn't want kids and then I became a lesbian and it's like impossible I know it's not but I choose it to be um but it's like yeah even with the stepmom like some I think there's a really complicated dynamic with having a dead one you know because like there's it's not like you kind of get to talk shit on the ex-wife or get to have a relationship with her if hazel did it doesn't sound like she does

but it's like right and she can't just go into someone else's house and walk all over them like that's she is like yeah she's being no she's way too extreme what's like above entitled what would like be above that uh what would be above entitled i don't know uh bitchy no i think that's below entitled is there anything above entitled i don't know but there should be you're right controlling definitely controlling i'm gonna need all of you to like write in What is above entitled? Because that is the level at which Hazel is at.

Right.

Yeah, she just should not have married into that. So and it's hard thinking.
Right. If you guys really love each other, but like, yeah, you should have maybe faced these issues before or he needs to sit her down and be like, look is what it is we can like work through it together

yeah but this behavior has got to stop but i'm gonna go out on a limb and say hazel wouldn't take that well no but i don't really give a fuck about hazel no me either she's gotta go i mean i the bright side of this like at least she kind of likes her stepkids i'm like okay she wants them in her heart or whatever that weird thing was,

but she's still trying to destroy any memory of their mom, which is psychotic. Yeah, which I think she has malintentions for wanting the kids to like her.
I think she wants to be above the wife. She wants to be loved more.
I'm your new mommy energy. Yes, yeah Yeah.
Weird. I know.
Because she doesn't want any trace. But like as a kid, I feel like you should be able to see where you came from.
You know? Absolutely. And like hold on to the memory.
There's a place. I think there's a place you can or a way you can do both.
Yeah. I think so too.
Top comment. Not the asshole asshole Anna was your sister, not just Josh's wife

It's perfectly reasonable for you to have photos of her and her art in your home

Also, especially with the kids

It's important for them to remember their mother and to see photos of themselves with her

Hazel may be their stepmom

But it sounds like she's trying to replace Anna in the minds and hearts of Anna's own children

Yeah Gabby, you were on it. I know, Hazel.
Yeah. They go on to say, that's a red flag for me.
Yeah. Right? And the talk needs to be had with Josh.
It's one thing to remove Anna from Josh and Hazel's home. It's a whole level of crazy to remove from OP's home.
Mm-hmm. And that's like— Yeah.
You think about that, you're like, wait. Okay, let's— and that's like yeah you think about that you're like wait okay let's just that like asking someone to take down stuff that's on their wall right especially art like it doesn't even have her face on it art art that she made yes like how petty are you you're just jealous that nobody ever made you art and like you get to hang it in your home.
And I know that feeling because Robbie's grandpa was a painter.

He was a famous painter in Montreal.

Oh, cool.

I know.

And so I get jealous that I didn't have a painter in the family.

Oh, damn.

That I, yeah.

Maybe you just need to become the painter.

Ooh, whoa.

That's deep.

That's really deep.

But she is sweet because I'm like, we're like speaking to speaking to death we're like i wonder what happens when we die and she's like i bet you'll meet my grandfather first with open arms so she's saying you'll die first well my thing is is like she wants to live to 110 oh hell no no exactly and i want to be in full control of my death because I am a control freak. So like I'll be of a certain age, but I- How old do you envision? Depends on my health, but like I'm thinking in my 80s and then all euthanasia myself.
Yeah. Going out by choice in Switzerland sounds nice.
Yeah. I fully thought when you were about to say like, I want to be fully in control.
I literally thought you thought you were gonna be like I want to be fully in control of my bowels and like after that it's over yes yeah once I lose that it's done which honestly it goes hand in hand I like I honestly though I thought about it because I also I really have to pee right now but I'm like wearing a diaper yeah no you lose your integrity like when you go you're sick. And it's progressive like that.
It's like the people who die in their sleep. That's what I want to do.
Ideal. Same.
I want to make myself die in my sleep. That's like, I just like, I don't.
I'm like, beggars can't be choosers, right? But like my fiance's grandma, just great grandma, just passed away. She was 99.
Yeah. In her sleep.
Wow. That's ideal.
Is that luck? Ideal. Or like, how do you get that? Because I'm sure I don't have good enough karma.
My genetics are not great. No.
What are they? Not great. I got heart disease, cancer, bad hips.
I got it all. Oh, my God.
Oh, that's why you're so worried about your hips with with baby birth see yeah

break your legs yeah they're gonna come right for your legs her eyes were gone her teeth were gone it's literally my fear okay one last choice for you okay okay i saved some like obscure Reddit titles that are like random

Rapid fire questions

Yeah

You can have those

Uh huh

Then Okay. I saved some like obscure Reddit titles that are like random rapid fire questions.
Yeah. You can have those, those, or the I accidentally hooked up with my dead ex's sister.
Oh my God. Should we do the rapid fire just because I feel like I can't turn it down.
So it's like, and it's an, it's an addition. Let's go.
Okay. Okay.
Up first, what is the worst response to I love you?

The worst response to I love you is probably I don't love you.

I hate you.

Like that guy.

We need to talk.

Yes.

Or just silence.

Yes.

Silence.

Because I don't even think thank you is that bad. People are like, thank you is the worst response.
I'm like, I did that with Robbie. Thank you.
Right. You said thank you.
Yeah. Not like just thank you, but I was like, oh, thank you so much.
I'm not there yet. Okay.
That's so fair though. Yeah.
What else do you say? You can't just say, oh, I'm not there yet. You still have to like keep your decorum.
somebody's pouring out their heart to you so i think the worst response is probably fuck you i would agree with that i literally said no when my fiance asked me to be his girlfriend at first and that was awkward oh no yeah good for you establishing your dominance though you're like the next day you're like kidding i do still like

you i just don't want to be exclusive yet yeah no that's fair i had to make sure yeah okay this is a hot take okay slow walkers are worse than slow drivers um some people really hate slow walkers but I don't know. Yeah, I don't really mind either.
But if I had to pick one, slow drivers, because they're easier to get around. Slow walkers, especially when they're like swaying.
Oh my God. Or they're like weaving in front of you.
And like you don't have a clear path to weave in front of them. Literally, they're not on a straight path or they have a lot of bags.
And's like taking up the whole sidewalk. Then you have to like, I don't even say, excuse me.
I just like, who's the mom in the Incredibles? I like- Well, the slinky. She's like slinky? Yes.
Or what is it? I just want to like go into the wall, somehow contort my body and go around them. Go over them.
Yeah. And literally, that seems worse.

I will cut anyone off

and make it seem like it's their idea.

So I don't really mind a slow driver.

I don't want to be on the highway

the same time as you.

You do.

It's seamless.

If aliens visited Earth,

what's the first thing we should show them?

I'm like, my tits.

You're nude.

That's what I was thinking. You're nude.
Let all of the other universes know and tell them to follow me on Instagram. If they have any kind of brand deals that they're willing to give from outer space, like I want to establish my fame early in case I end up there at some point in time.
I would love to live on a little spaceship for a while. Yeah.
Would you? Like a Xenon? Yeah. I mean, she really sold it.
And that's the thing. If I could guarantee I'm not going to get sucked into a black hole, I would probably try it.
But I'm really scared of flying. So I don't know if I could handle the rocket ship.
I don't think it's going to work out for you. No, I was a flight attendant too.
Like really. Make that make sense.
Isn't that crazy how sometimes we get ourselves in that situation? How? It's like going to work. I was so anxious as a nurse because I'm terrified of people.
What? Yeah. Well, like in large masses.
And like if I have to like talk to a lot of people, I don't know. You're just one person.
And you're very welcoming. But you like, you went on The Bachelor.
Like you got to like, that's intimidating. No, I overcome it.
Up against like 24 other women. And like you have to be friends.
But you can't be too friendly because you're competing in a like right in front of a camera I do become invincible I can do the unexpected I can it's it's really crazy I truly come alive see I think you could do stand-up and I and I take a lot of propanolol so much so that one time when I was in Croatia on Bachelor, they had to send the Croatian medics because my heart rate was so low. I was getting nauseous and they took my pulse.
My heart rate was in the 30s. Maybe that's why I'm nauseous all the time.
Propanolol? My heart rate's too low. I'm like before I was like earlier today, I was like, God, I'm nauseous again today.
Are you always nauseous? I'm not pregnant Yeah that's what I was gonna say No There's no chance No chance Okay Cause you haven't pulled the goalie No There is no goalie Okay I'm playing with fire Yeah you pull and pray It only works if you pray condoms shut the fuck up

non latex because the latex ones are disgusting

oh my god

I know

that is truly incredible

I deserve some sort of award

you are a warrior

and that shows

it does show the character of your fiance

because men would be like no

he's a good one

he's a unicorn

he really is

last but not least

I'm going to go no i loved it it's a genius concept, by the way. Can you come co-host with me again? Please.
Oh my God. Anytime.
This is so good. So where can people listen to your podcast though? Where can they find you? Yes.
You're doing it all right now. I know it's really too much, which is why I need my nudes to be leaked so I can back the fuck off.
Work smarter, not harder. Yes.
You can find my podcast on all platforms, including YouTube. It's long winded.
I'm on TikTok as Gabby.Wendy and Instagram as Gabby Wendy. I'm begging for your attention.
This is a plea. All of Gabby's links are going to be in the description I will make it so easy to find her give her podcast a listen especially the episode with you and your girlfriend Robbie amazing I literally it's like going to be my mission now to get like the two of you on together because like Robbie is so funny check out her stand up I'm just like no she's incredible she's one of a kind I love it.
But thank you so funny. Check out her stand-up.
I'm just like. No, she's incredible.

I love. Yeah, she's one of a kind.

I love it.

But thank you so much for coming on.

Thank you.

Until next time, guys.

Bye.

Yay.

Yay. Thank you.