161: Just Be Normal!!

I don't have the lyrics memorized yet, but we'll get there.

I don't know any song lyrics.

Yeah, I know.

It's crazy how much you don't listen to music.

Well, that makes me sound like a psycho.

You're the one who said it.

No, and you outed me at a live show and you were like, I was driving with Morgan and Justin today and they don't listen to music in the car.

And like there was an actual like reaction from the crowd.

And I was like, OK, we're not weird.

We're going to be right back. I was driving with Morgan and Justin today and they don't listen to music in the car and like there was an actual like reaction from the crowd and I was like okay we're not weird we're not weird we we're just working in the car yeah so like you can't edit and listen to music it just doesn't yeah it doesn't work like that but it's not it's not just that though but you said that you don't have like a Spotify subscription or I don't have Spotify Premium, so I get a lot of ads when I listen to music and I can't like pick specific songs.
Spotify hasn't, they haven't hooked me up with that. Oh, man.
Yeah. Wow, I didn't even, for some reason, I wasn't even putting it together.
When I think about Spotify podcasts and music, I just really separate them in my head. Yeah.
But they're all right there. They're all right there.
They're all in the same thing. Intertwined.
Yeah. Yeah.
No. And Apple hasn't come at me yet either with an Apple premium thing, whatever they do over there.
So, you know, the ads are nice. I learned about BMO today.
Yeah. It's like if you want people to listen to ads on this podcast, then you got to listen to ads elsewhere, right?

Yeah. Yeah, my ads I try to make funny.

Oh, actually, speaking of, I'm... Do you know what I'm wearing?

Skims.

Yes!

I know, it looks really cute.

It's the cotton one and like, look at the stretch. I know!

I was going to ask you where you got it, actually. I actually worked worked out in it so i shouldn't be wearing it right now but it's so comfortable it's so cute okay are we ready for today barely barely no i'm getting i'm ready i'm really excited this is like we haven't done an episode what feels like a while like just me and you i was thinking that and we're off to Nashville in like two days and then we have like the last couple shows like we're we're halfway done with the tour it's so sad I don't know it feels weird I love it but today's theme can't you just be normal hmm come on I like I like this can't just be normal? This is a good title.
There's a lot of juicy ones. A lot I have not read at all.
But based on the title, I was like, OK, it fits. Some could be like mental health related.
I don't know. I haven't read a lot of these today.
I'm going in a little blind. Okay.
So it's just kind of meant to be a fun theme. Like, dude, can't you just be normal?

Like, why are you being so weird? Weird. Yeah, I don't know.
I've been dealing with a lot of

weird people lately. And so this theme came about and we're going to see what we encountered today.

Okay. I'm into it.
it okay let's dive in Okay, so our first one is 14 hours old coming from Am I the Asshole? Titled, Am I the Asshole for being rude to my boyfriend afterfriend After He Withheld the Salt from Me? My female 27, boyfriend, male 30, are currently on vacation with his family. I have volunteered to cook most nights because I love to cook and I am the best at it out of the entire group.
This evening, I was making a dish for everyone and asked my boyfriend to please get me an array of seasonings for this specific dish, MSG, soy sauce, pepper, and salt. He then said, if you're using MSG, do you really need salt? To which I explained that MSG is not salty, has one third of sodium content to regular salt, and that dishes, if they're using MSG, will still typically require salt.
I was cooking outside on a griddle, and the dish comes together quickly, so I was not able to go back to grab any additional seasonings. I realized shortly afterwards that he did not include salt, just three out of the four things I requested.
When asked, he said we didn't need it. I tried the food.
It was bland. So he then proceeded to put an additional soy sauce, which it did not need.
It needed fucking salt. Either way, I was defeated and needed to take it off.
So I served it as is without salt. Everyone, upon being served, said it needed salt and proceeded to salt their own dishes.
My boyfriend stood by his decision and doubled down on his argument that you can't remove salt, but you can add it, and that he preferred how it tasted as is. I was fuming because he has done this in the past and says I occasionally over-season slash over-salt food.
However, it does not happen regularly enough to be an issue. Occasionally accidental.
I do 90% of the cooking at home and he loves my food. We argued about it and he stood his ground that he prefers his food less salty and that if I salted it that he would have been shit out of luck and not been able to eat any of it.
However, the amount of salt it required was not enough to be overly salted and that I know for a fact the amount of salt I would have used, he would have happily eaten it. I told him his behavior felt controlling and he hit me with a, I could have grabbed more salt myself.
But again, this dish, if I stepped away, would have burned very quickly. Am I the asshole for being angry and calling my boyfriend controlling for not just getting me the salt when I asked for it initially? Either this guy has his taste buds that are just like out of control, where he tastes everything just more than the rest of us do, or he has villainized salt.
Like, I don what's going on here I'm gonna I'm gonna out myself right now what do it I don't add salt in any of my dishes really no I pepper the fuck I'll add paprika but is that because you're basil you name it are your taste buds just like on one or is it because you have villainized salt I personally feel like I feel like my sodium intake is already so bad from like you eat chips there's salt you you know you do soy sauce there's sodium and soy sauce like there's there's so many things that salt is in so I always am like I'm getting way too much sodium as it is. Like I get that.
I, it's funny. And that's why I asked because like, I went through a period of time in my life where I did villainize salt.
I didn't want it on anything. I was just like, no salt bad.
Just no salt. My sister would just dump it on anything she would eat.
It'd be like a piece of chicken. Just continue salt it oh yeah and and then something happened one day and I decided to let go of this what did you put it on that first it piqued your interest in salt again that's not it when I was working at ADP I was signing up a guy on payroll who had this really incredible vegan cafe.
And he made everything so natural. He was showing me how he makes all of their almond milk and everything that he does.
And anyway, he made a comment about salt. And I was like, oh, isn't salt bad for you? He goes, no.
Salt is so good for you. You got to get the right type of salt and he showed me the salt Yeah, but he showed me the salt that he uses And then from then on I was like i'd rather believe I'd rather believe that it's good for you So i'm just gonna throw it on anytime I want to and there you go It's no longer gonna be a villain to me i will say salt a little bit of salt with like a

decent amount of pepper and scrambled eggs does i was literally gonna say that like ice tastes really good yeah or like a little bit of salt on top of your avocado or tomatoes makes it pop okay this is so niche but if you go to iceland and they probably have it other places they have this lava salt oh my god insane really so i do like salt but then when i'm cooking like i don't know like the other night i made um like pf chang's homemade lettuce wraps yeah i'm not gonna add a lot of salt in that because there's already stuff yeah there's so much sodium and everything so no i i completely get that this is just so weird to me it is like back to the story are you guys like are you serious like I don't think it's that big of a deal like could he have grabbed it after you asked him yes like you're doing a huge favor and cooking but at the same time it's not that difficult for people to just salt their food and then they get to pick what they want but I do know that cooking with the salt changes the flavor a little bit versus just sprinkling. Yeah.
People who are chefs and bakers are probably listening to this just screaming. We do have a lot of bakers that we're with them in the morning as they're baking.
Yeah. Because sometimes when you're baking stuff, you have to add just a dash of salt.
It's not like it tastes salty. It just I feel like there's a lot of chemical reactions in baking and cooking that I don't understand me too but i watched lessons in chemistry i still need to watch that unreal i'm debating if i should read the book now that i'm getting on it with reading again yeah but i don't know if i just watch it yeah it's so good they're different they're also very different okay top comment of course your boyfriend should be able to control the amount of salt or other ingredients in a dish when he's cooking.
His actions do sound controlling and also rude and ungrateful. Yeah.
Sounds like it might be time for him to put on the chef's hat and gain some perspective or gratitude, not the asshole. Next comment.
Not only controlling, but completely unreasonable unreasonable everyone had to salt their food and he still dug his heels in and fought about how he was right this is not someone you can have constructive conversations with well of course he's gonna say it was better without any salt because he doesn't want to look stupid so many people are like that just admit you're wrong. It's okay.
It's not going to kill you. It needed salt.
Enough said. Okay, moving along.
Okay. Okay, one more food one before we move along.
This is 13 Hours Old, coming from AITAH. Am I the asshole for eating noodles with my hand after my wife's friend scoffed at me for using a fork.
My wife's friend is back from abroad, and their group decided to get together to meet her. They were going to bring their spouses for this dinner, so wife asked me to join.
She told me to behave, and I did. Her friend had a fake accent, which I didn't mock.
She was a brand addict, showed off, and another typical foreign return. I didn't say anything to her.
We had met at a Chinese restaurant where we often go. I asked the waiter to get me a fork, and he did.
This is when I noticed her friend looking at me as if I committed some sin. When I started eating with the fork, she said to my wife that we could

have gone to some other restaurants if there was a problem. She was trying to make fun of me for

not being able to use chopsticks. So I put the fork aside and dug in with my hands and everyone

but my wife and friend on the table started laughing. I didn't think of it as more than a

joke at the time. When we came home,

my wife was visibly pissed. I asked her if I did anything, and she said I embarrassed her

in front of her friend and her spouse. She now is not talking to me.
Am I the asshole?

I mean, I thought that it was okay to eat with your hands in some of these situations. So what

exactly was he grabbing? Because I was told that actually actually if I didn't want to use my chopsticks to use sushi that using my hand was just as um like kosher yeah just as appropriate yeah I think it depends on the culture um but I'm not sure like this is a Chinese restaurant he mentioned so you typically assume chopsticks, but I don't think anyone would shame you for a fork. Maybe.
I remember we were in China and we ordered noodles and we actually didn't get chopsticks or a fork. It was only a spoon, which was new for us.
So I think it just depends on the culture, but there's not a lot of context here. It doesn't really mention where they are, what background he he is but i feel like it's one of those things where it's like i wouldn't shame someone for not being able to use a utensil like he's there trying he's participating in your group what if he had a disability where he doesn't have that fine motor but i don't know i just feel like it's there's so many other things in life where it's like just fucking be normal and mind your own business at the table.
Yeah. Like, who cares? Actually, when we were in China, there were chopsticks.
But that's when I learned how to use chopsticks. Really? Yes, because I felt so pressured because they were laughing at us.
At the restaurant with the ramen? Just the bowl with the big spoon? Everywhere we went. We didn't have a warm welcome.
We didn't know if they were laughing at us or like with us. Not that we were laughing.
No, we were only in the Shanghai airport because they really threatened us that we couldn't leave. Because they just changed their visa program.
They didn didn't threaten us they were threatening the person in front or like in front of us when we were considering leaving and the guy was freaking out remember because he had a crazy layover and he did it specifically but we did too and they literally they were like i don't know if you like they literally implied like you will be it won't be good it won't be good if you leave the airport yeah and so we were like well not doing that so we are only in the airport but um we did try to order some food and the people actually hated our guts I think it's hard to know but but I felt Lauren I felt Lauren they were so mean to us I don't know I really don't know because no one said anything directly aggressive, but it felt like they were laughing at us. I'm talking about the waffle place where we asked, we were like, hey, do you have any chopsticks so we can eat this? And they didn't talk to us.
I think we might have asked for a fork and then they laughed at us. No, we asked for

chopsticks first. I actually think I said utensils.
Okay. Well, anyway, I just remember being really, I felt really nervous.
And I remember I'm like, I'm going to learn how to use chopsticks now because that is, I got, I got to learn. It's time to learn.
I think they're so fun. And I'm still not very good at it.
But that fight or flight moment helped me learn. There you go.
And I am better. But anyway, I agree with you.
I don't think that if you don't grow up learning how to eat a certain way or have a certain accent, like it's nice to try when you're in a place that that's how they do speak or that's how they participate yeah appreciate the culture it's nice to try but it's like if it doesn't come natural to you and your hand is cramping up and and you're really struggling with it and you're just not getting the food in your mouth then i i think it should people should be able to use a utensil that they know how to they can actually eat with. Yeah.
But also his reaction to it was a little extreme. But the fact that everybody else laughed, you know, then it's at least he had a mostly audience that thought it was funny.
But it's like, did he put his was it a shared plate? And he put his hand in. I didn't even think about that.
I mean, You know what was the deal? What was the situation with that? Because that would be disrespectful But she was like This friend was kind of disrespectful From the jump Like basically saying like We could have gone somewhere else If there was going to be a problem Yeah Basically implying like Your husband's He shouldn't be here Yeah Like he can't use chopsticks He shouldn't be able to eat here like we should leave yeah and i'm gonna be honest that is the type of friend if i were to be in that situation that is the type of friend that i would question is this the friend i want and if my husband did that i would laugh and be like i'm glad that my husband has a sense of humor instead of stomping off and being like your friends a pretentious B-I-T-C-H look at me Lauren can spell yeah Lauren I told you I'm trying trying to turn it turn the swearing down oh my god that's so nice for all of you listening with kids in your car or house. So top comment, I use a fork to eat noodles because at only 30, I started losing control of my fine motor function.
And now I cannot use chopsticks, even though I know how and would like to. Pretty hilarious, right? Wow.
That changes things. My brain, well, this is the top comment, Not oh got it got it got it but it just like this is where my brain went because of ot school like you never know what people are dealing with and i think about someone who like maybe was diagnosed with ms or parkinson's and they're starting to lose control of their fine motor or you know and it's like can you imagine how painful that would be for I mean this person is telling us right here yeah can you imagine if that was the case how painful that would be and he's like oh we you want to go somewhere else because I'm having a hard time holding chopsticks like because of a medical condition that yeah Mind your on to say your own business yes they go on to say i visited china and every place i ate i was embarrassed to be that tourist who would only eat with a fork when i came back i told an old friend of mine this she reminded me of when we were 17 and having a formal sit-down meal for our school graduation she was born in Australia, like me, but is from South Asian background.
She came to me very embarrassed and asked me to teach her how to hold a knife and fork properly. She was so afraid of being embarrassed because they just didn't use them in her family.
Very occasionally a fork, and she knew how to butter bread, but not putting the two utensils together for a fancy, good-mannered dinner. I didn't judge her, and she was very stern with me about judging myself.
She's a delightful, soft-spoken, sunshine pixie, but I reckon she'd put your wife's friend in a fucking headlock. I love that comment.
That is so precious. That is really, really precious.
I can't use chopsticks for the same reason. I was 39 when mine started.
Just wanted to let you know that you aren't alone. I really feel like I'm getting carpal tunnel in my hand.
I have carpal tunnel. It gets, I don't know how to explain it when I grab things sometimes.
Your grip strength goes down. It's really, really frustrating.
Really frustrating. Someone else comments, 35 checking in.
I'm in my mid-40s now, but was 35 when it started. I used to use chopsticks to pick up messy snacks like wasabi peas or cheese puffs.
Now there's no way I can use them. It's a good day when I can hold my coffee mug.
This is why you shut your fucking mouth and don't judge people.

Absolutely.

Be fucking normal.

This is sad and also really makes me miss OT.

But I can happily say I am officially a licensed and registered OT for another two years, baby.

Oh, yay.

I did my continuing education credits. Good.
Yeah, i didn't know if i was gonna keep it and then i started like getting really really sad that i wasn't planning on it because i don't use it right now but i did it i took a lot of really cool interesting classes and i'm still an ot that's amazing yeah my little. My little proud plug.
Yeah. Congrats.
Yeah. I'm not seeing any comments from OP in the top replies.
Like I said, the only way that I think that he would be really rude if it was a community ball. Yeah.
I didn't think about that until you said it. That's such a good question because then it's kind of like of like yeah did you know that like you encounter I just read the quote to someone to like I think Chris Olson when he was on an episode but on average you touch like 10 dicks a day yeah literally from people not washing their hands and like touching a doorknob after they touch their dick.
So on average, you encounter like 10 dicks a day. I shook so many hands yesterday.
So many dicks. So many dicks.
It's okay. It's fine.
Okay, moving along. So this next one is coming from A-I-T-A-H, 11 hours old.
It is titled, Am I the Asshole for Faking My Giving Birth? I'll keep this as short as possible. I, 25 female, am pregnant with the baby due in a couple of days.
My husband, 25 male, promised that he would be the one to drive me to the hospital and that he will be glued to the phone until birth. He works only 10 minutes from our home and his boss agreed to let him go when the birth happens.
The problem is my mother-in-law. My husband and her have an unhealthy, in my opinion, strong bond and she is overly involved in our relationship, which has caused many issues in the past.
She requires his attention every day. She has suggested moving in with us ever since I became pregnant.
She also has emergencies whenever we have anniversaries, important occasions like my birthday, etc. As the date is approaching, I became increasingly worried that his mother will have an emergency during birth and I will have trouble getting to the hospital or will be forced to be alone during it.
I voiced my concerns and it caused fights between me and them. I even suggested asking- Whoa, wait, what? Okay, sorry, go on.
I even suggested asking my best friend to drive me and keep me company as I'm scared of giving birth. But it was shot down with, quote, how can't you trust your own husband? So I'm not proud of it.
But I faked giving birth yesterday. I called my hubby at work, told him it started.
He said he will be right there. After half an hour, I called him to ask where he was and he didn't answer.
After almost an hour, he called me to say he is at the hospital with his mom because guess what? She is having a medical emergency. Oh my God.
No way. I can't believe this this is is wow.
I just like lost my breath Apparently he called her to tell her i'm giving birth and she got quote a heart attack from excitement Oh my god He said he will have to miss my birth and actually asked me to call my friend to drive me and stay with me. Dot, dot, dot.
Didn't this ring any alarms? I can't believe that they had fights about this beforehand, prior. Not just her and her husband.
Them. All of them together, she said.
That's when I gasped. She said, it's caused fights between all of us.
So she acknowledged, hey, mother-in-law, you literally keep pretending to have emergencies when important events come up. Don't do that for my birth.
How could you, how could you say that? Just wait. Okay.
Sorry. I'm sorry.
This one's just hard for me not to cut it. And you can cut it and keep going.
Sorry. It's staying in.
I admit I was very angry and heartbroken. So I told him I wasn't actually giving birth and that it was a test that showed me how he would actually behave versus what he said he would do.

And that it proved he would always care for his mother more than his own wife who was carrying his child.

He was very angry and even blamed me for his mother's heart attack in the moment.

Stop.

His mom, of course, didn't have a heart attack, but a, quote, false alarm.

Oh, shocking.

Thank you. for his mother's heart attack in the moment.
Stop. His mom, of course, didn't have a heart attack,

but a, quote, false alarm.

Oh, shocking.

I felt very justified,

but now that we have talked,

I feel really guilty.

He said he feels manipulated and gaslighted. From your mother, honey.

That just because his mother lied about the emergency

doesn't mean I should lie to him. Why not? What the fuck? He said that marriage is built on trust, so I have to trust him instead of lying to him to prove a point.
He even said that he didn't choose his mother over me, but chose a bigger emergency, and that he knew I could handle getting to the hospital. but his mother needed him more and that a heart attack is more serious.
I pointed out she lied, but he said he couldn't have known that and that I was, quote, just as bad for lying. I feel like I'm going crazy.
Am I the asshole? No, no. It's interesting, though, because I'm like, yes, it is true.
One lie doesn't mean that you should do another lie. But at the same time, it was literally to prove a point, to make it clear as day that this is what's going on.
And yet, if he still is not comprehending that, that this is something that his mother does, that's a huge problem. And I'm glad that it was a false alarm because I was going to feel like a huge asshole if it ended up being actually serious this time.
Of course it's a false alarm. Well, you never know.
No chance. But like with this story.
No chance. Yeah, but I'm...
I didn't read this one before. Really? And it's so hard when like I haven't read it and I'm just as like fuming as you.

But if I reacted the whole time like you did, I would ruin it for everyone listening.

So I'm sitting here.

I'm like this dude.

I want to just hit him with one of those like battery operated kid cars.

Like I just want to run him over multiple times.

Like what are you not getting?

I would really.

I know like obviously we go back and forth on this, like ultimatum versus boundary. What's the difference? For me, if this were my husband, I would be at my wits end.
You continuously let your mother ruin our anniversary, my birthday, things that are really important. I would be done.
I would say, you know what? This has shown us that something's going to come up. I didn't want to lie to you, but I don't feel safe and supported in this relationship.
The deal is we do not tell your mom I'm going into labor. I call you.
You come home and get me. We go to the hospital.
And once everything is done, then you can call your mom. That's how this is going to go down.
She has proven that she gets too excited. We got to be careful on her poor little heart.
So after the baby is born and we have that intimate moment, just me and you, then your mom can come to the hospital. And if that is an issue, then your best friend's showing up for you.
And you better get some divorce papers going. Honestly.
Like, this is so unhealthy. Yeah.
I'm so frustrated for her. I know.
I didn't expect to have such a flaming story right away. Why can't you just be normal? Oh, my gosh.
It's just. Hold on.
I need a second to gather my thoughts. No, I'm kidding.
No, I don't know. It's just like sad, frustrating.
How does he not see it, too? How does he not get it?? And what I would say though, is that if I was in the situation and if my partner's mother was actually having a heart attack, I would say, go there. Like go there instead, come here when you can.
But that is an emergency. And obviously childbirth can also end poorly.
So it's like, get over here as soon as possible because you don't know what's going to happen. It also is a major.
It's a major thing. Yeah.
I don't know why he thinks this is like a walk in the park. Hey, go do it on your own.
I guess your friend's going to have to hold your hand. Yeah.
This is your baby too. And yeah.
And obviously the beautiful aspect of it, of of course but i'm saying that even Outside of loving this child and being there for the birth It still is just like you don't know what's gonna happen and so Be there as soon as possible. Yeah, and so even if you know if my partner's mom was having a heart attack I would say go do that get here as soon as you can like I goes.
Yeah, but it's her track record, right? That's what I'm saying. I'm like, this is a different scenario.
Yeah. What I also think is kind of interesting is that he didn't answer her when he called back when he didn't show up after 30 minutes.
After almost an hour, he called me to say he was at the hospital. And then he says something else that like really just got me boiling.
He said, my friend is going to have to drive me and stay with me.

Your mom, if she's having a heart attack, you get her to the hospital. She goes into an emergency

room. Like heart attacks are very, depending on what kind, like she could be going into like the ICU where like no one can even be like it could be that desperate she could need to like have immediate surgery so it's like you can get your mom safely to the hospital make sure she's there but then go join your wife like you don't need to and some people are going to call me insensitive but the reality is she's safe.
She's medically provided for. You also have someone who you should be supporting and caring for.
Yeah. It just like it really.
It would be it would be really tough if this was a real scenario. Yeah.
Because if, you know, if it was my mom in the hospital, then I would want to stay there with her and make sure she's okay.

But then also be there for the birth of my child. Ironically, that would be hard to do both as I would be the one giving birth.
I'm picturing my boyfriend giving birth to her child. I wish dudes could have babies.
I know, me too. Justin said he would do it.
I was like, would you, if you could get pregnant? And he was like, immediately. Yeah.
He's like, he's like, I would just like want to carry one. And then like, maybe you could carry the next one.
Hmm. Yeah.
Brian, Brian said no when I asked him this, but then when I pushed him on it, he said yes. So I don't know if he just didn't want to get in trouble or if he actually thought it through and was like, no, you're right.
That's fair. Yeah.
I don't know. It's so funny to picture him pregnant.
I'm literally strapping a watermelon to Justin. He's going to have to deal with it with me.
Oh, yeah. No, my partner is not going to drink or not drink a lot.
I'm not going to. I mean, no, I like how that's your biggest concern.
Well, can you imagine how annoying that would be if you're sitting at home and you're having more or whatever you're doing your morning sickness? And then he's out like getting blacked out at a happy hour. No, absolutely not.
Sleeping on the couch, dude. Yeah, like you can have drinks, but don't go and get messed up while I'm in pain.
Like, this is your baby too, and I'm doing the hard work. Your Minnesota accent came out so strong.
I loved it. Oh, no.
Home. It was so good.
Top comment on this one. If my mother was for real having a heart attack when my wife went into labor, she would either lie to me so that I would not go to her or she would insist that I be with my wife.
Your mother-in-law is bonkers and your husband is a jerk for putting her first. Bigger emergency, air quotes.
Is he a cardiologist or an EMT? If not, what the hell is he going to do for her? Thank you. I felt a little insensitive.
I did say I did feel like a little bit of a devil saying like she's medically cared for. OK, leave her ass.
Someone gets it. Someone gets me.
I feel seen. I think that in those moments, though, even if my mom said go, I would be the one that would want to stay with her.
That would have a hard time leaving her. But if I was having a baby at the exact same time, then I would be like, okay, I also do have to go, but I want to make sure you're good.
She's going to get hooked up to a nitro drip. They're going to sort it out.
She's going to be good. Next comment down.
Plus he didn't call OP and let her know that he was going to the hospital with mom. So OP could then get someone to take her to the hospital.
He left his wife, who he thought was going into labor, hanging with no idea that she was on her own. And that's what I was trying to point out.
That pissed me off. That is messed up.
He's 10 minutes away from home based on where he works. And it, you know, after 30 again like where are you another 30 minutes goes by so it's like did he get in a car accident what's happening it it was an extra 50 minutes and that's precious time that she could be using to get to the hospital yeah and I get birth isn't like you know the movies it's not your water breaks and you're immediately going you know it takes some time but that's when the contractions start and you're in pain it's the lack of consideration for me right it's the lack of awareness yeah contractions start after your water breaks typically but like labor can take sometimes like 24 hours 36 hours yeah it can take a minute and then there's some people that like give birth on the way to the hospital you don't know it's just the lack of consideration and respect for the woman who is supposed to be his life partner who is giving birth to his child call her it's awful but i i literally i called my mom told her you were going to birth and she's having a heart attack so i gotta got to go over there.
I got to make sure she's good. Can't you drive and talk on the phone? Cars have Bluetooth.
Their speakerphone hands free baby. We don't text and drive.
We don't call and hold the phone to our head. Safe driving only.
Here's a check in for my my car, people. How's your drive going?

But you know what I mean?

It's just so inconsiderate.

It's absolutely insane.

It's so inconsiderate.

There's no question that this guy is an absolute asshole in the situation.

And I think that OP, and normally I wouldn't say, yeah, go ahead and lie and fake your birth when you read the title.

But with all this being said and done, I think it's the best way to kind of figure out what you're dealing with and and prove your point and yeah and you really proved your point so i'm down for it and if he truly doesn't see through what his mom is doing and he truly is so worried that his mom might pass away then I'm like I'm giving him a little bit of grace of like his desperation and concern but be fucking better come on you how do you not see through your mom like that's that's insane so we do have some edits edit Just because I don't want to be misunderstood.

I did what I did because I am terrified to give birth alone.

My friend would have to ask for a day off in advance

so she'd have to know that she is needed before I actually get contractions.

Oh, fuck.

What?

My mom died in childbirth, and I don't want to be alone during the scariest moment of my life. Wow.
I hate this man. Me too.
So much. So much more.
I already hated him. I already wanted to hit him with a car.
Not the plastic kind. I changed my mind.
Oh, that's no, that's too much. No, that makes me want to cry.
I wow. Because like when you think about childbirth, like for me, the person I want there is like Justin and my mom.
And like, same, this person is pregnant. My partner, my partner.
Morgan your mom's coming I'm Justin sorry

I'd be like what?

Is my life a Reddit story?

No

But it's just really sad because it's like

This is I mean, I'm Justin. Sorry.
I'd be like, what? Am I? Is my life a Reddit story?

But it's just really sad because it's like this is very traumatic for her. She grew up without her birth mom.
Yeah, because she died. Like what a fucking insensitive asshole.
And that's what I was saying. I was saying even

Even if

Wife is okay with you know, this is an incredibly special moment and it will be heartbreaking that you miss it. But if your mom is in a lot of danger, help her out and get here as soon as you can.
You know, if it was something like that, if this was a situation in a normal sense, clearly this isn't normal.

But if it was a normal sense, then that would make more sense to me because it's like that.

This is also a potential emergency.

You don't know what's going to happen in childbirth.

It is scary.

It's likely going to be fine.

But there are chances of issues.

And you got to be there for your partner because it's scary.

And the fact that she has this past and he doesn't get it and he's just saying this is a bigger emergency and he knows this is such a real fear for his wife is so insensitive it's crazy even if i am the asshole i think this gave me the push i needed to quote get my ducks in a row and my friend already asked for a couple days off to be there when I need it. I'm just so scared.
Edit two. To answer a common question, why did you marry him? Wasn't he putting his mom first from the beginning? I suppose it is a fair question, but it was never that bad.
Well, now it is so. But when we first started, it was lovely.
His mother was barely a footnote in our relationship because we were at uni and far away. I suppose my greatest mistake was agreeing to move into his town versus moving into mine.
I come from a town on the opposite side of the country. Our uni was in the middle, so to speak, and his mom, while nosy and controlling, was far away and very easy to write off.
When we got married, we moved into his town for logistic reasons. He already had a job lined up in his town.
I didn't. We have been living here for a year and a half, and it has gotten progressively worse until now.
When he isn't in contact with her, he is a good partner. But when you add her into the equation, he becomes a different person.
Even his friends see it and have asked me about it. Right now, I want to focus on my baby.
But after birth, I think I will have to rethink our life together. I just can't spend the rest of my life in a triad with his mother.
Also, I'm sorry for mostly not replying to anyone. I am emotionally exhausted.

She wrote this just recently, right?

13 hours ago.

Wow.

So she might have update.

Just have a baby.

Oh, we need to all keep an eye on this one.

Oh, we just can't.

You should reach out and see if we can find like a P.O. box to send her little baby toys.

A little gift basket. Wouldn't that be sweet? That would be nice.
Okay, sending a message now. Just sucks.
I'm just so, I'm very frustrated. Does it, I almost wonder if this story is making people question their partner's mom.
If the relationship will change once they get married and move closer or something like that because it's interesting how um op mentions that it wasn't like this at all when they were dating until they moved to the town yeah he's from i'm honestly i'm very shocked he even moved so far away for school given their relationship right because it definitely sounds like they're enmeshed. Yeah.
think it does like which is probably why he can't see through it yeah it's interesting to think about because like if Justin and me moved back to Minnesota would his mom be popping over all the time unannounced would my mom be popping over all the time unannounced like that's kind of a culture in my family is like I'm home in Minnesota and like everyone just like pops over to the farm and we hang out and we have afternoon coffee together or bake like my family is very close that was minnesota bake bake and so I'm like I just don't know what my life would look like if I was in close proximity to family and if I would have healthy boundaries I feel like I would I feel like I would have no problem being able to like set boundaries and be like, hey, I know I live here again.

Like, I love you guys, but make sure you call before coming over.

Like, I don't think I would have that problem, but it feels like it's beyond that.

It feels like he's letting his mom sabotage every aspect.

Well, and that's what I'm wondering.

So I know that you've talked about enmeshment on the show a lot, at least according to comments.

Mm-hmm. Every aspect well, and that's what i'm wondering so I know that you've talked about enmeshment on the show a lot at least according to comments Yeah, I do love that word, but I I personally Haven't been on too many episodes when you talk about I have been on episodes But it's been a while.
I also haven't looked it up on my own I haven't really googled it and done research on it. So my question to you, since it sounds like you're familiar with it, is do you think that that is impacting this guy in the story from such a young age that it's almost become like a mental health disorder? It depends on how enmeshed a family unit is based on what I've read.
Like I'm obviously not a psychologist but

like disorder it depends on how enmeshed a family unit is based on what i've read like i'm obviously not a psychologist but like enmeshment can happen oftentimes for boys with single moms and it almost is like they're a surrogate partner something's wrong with the mom she's having an emergency she calls. The son steps in like a partner would.
So it could create a lot of anxiety and guilt and all this stuff with him. Like there's an abundance of emotions, right? But it's not healthy.
You lose like your own autonomy with enmeshment. And like, it's something that I've had to deal with with partners where they're unable to set boundaries with their family and it physically makes them sick.
Like it makes them sick and they cry and they're upset. And it's like, well, no matter what I do, like you're upset or my family's upset and they can't make a decision either way.
And it's like, well, look at what you're doing to yourself yeah and i also think people

don't realize like if you set boundaries yes it is difficult at first but the more you set boundaries and uphold them the easier it gets yeah because people stop guilt tripping you they know they're not going to get their way if they get manipulative or whatever so if he were to set boundaries with his mom I think a lot could improve yeah but it's hard it's hard to step to change a lot of people don't even realize that's what i'm saying it sounds like he doesn't have the awareness to it and i'm and i'm and that's what i'm wondering does he just is he just plain dumb does he not get it is this literally a product of his upbringing that he's not understanding what's

going on I don't know it sounds like maybe potentially all the above I know well I'm looking at some of OP's comments too just to give us a little more context when I read my mom died in childbirth and I don't want to be alone during the scariest moment of my life I assumed my head just kind of envisioning a story, I guess. I assumed that her mom died during her birth.
There's more insight into this. OP replies to someone and says, honestly, after reading this, it's like a retelling of my worst worries.
I was terrified that he wouldn't answer slash would run to his mother and I would be alone and then things would go wrong. My mom had no warning signs, but she died giving birth to my brother due to complications and bleeding.
I was seven and I still remember it as if it happened yesterday. I keep thinking, what if it was real labor and I kept waiting for him? What if that cost me too much time? What if I bled out alone? I know logically that my friend wouldn't leave me and would risk her job to come to the hospital but that almost makes it worse my friend is more willing to be my husband than my husband ever was why do i want to cry i really fucked up when she puts it that way yeah and you know what also gets me out of everything from this story is that if this man knows that his wife is worried that his mother is going to make up a fake emergency on the day of her birth, then why did you call her? Why did you do that? Go straight to the hospital or go straight to get your wife, go to the hospital.
That's what I'm saying. She is like having the baby.
Baby is literally coming. It's happening.
It's being born. Then give your mom a call.
Take that golden hour after the baby is born bond with your child and literally don't tell her until after. She's going to ruin this moment.
And the fact that he doesn't see it is so concerning. The fact that his friends has asked his wife, does he change around his mom? This is crazy.
It's so baffling and concerning. It's so sad.
I hope that he finds this Reddit and reads the comments and gets help. I know.
I think OP should share it with him. Someone does ask, do you have a medical proxy set up and documented? Depending on where you live, setting up documentation so that there is someone you can trust authorized to make medical decisions for you if you're unable to and instead of your husband would be a good idea and op does respond to that and goes unfortunately i'm already looking into it as i can't find it in myself to trust my husband with medical decisions regarding our my babies and my health i wouldn't't trust him at all.
Not after this performance. Well, and I think too, like I would be scared that it's like he's going to be so frantic, distressed, whatever.
And he's going to be like, mom, what do I do? And it's giving flashbacks to that one story where the mom said, I hope your mom dies to the little kids. Oh, God.
Like, it's like, oh, well, obviously choose the baby. She would want you to choose the baby.
Like, I don't trust either of them now anymore. I don't.
I can't. I am not seeing any other posts from OP.
No update yet. It's obviously very fresh.
Let's all keep our eyes peeled for an update.

Maybe after OP gives birth, I'll send a message.

See if we could send like maybe a little like Amazon gift cards.

You could buy some baby stuff.

I don't know.

Sometimes feels weird.

And I message people all the time.

I said to one person, they had their birthday cake ruined.

And I was like, can I buy you a cake?

And they never responded.

So a lot of times people don't message me back but we'll we'll keep our eyes peeled okay okay moving along okie dokie okay story number four this is five hours old titled am i the asshole for giving my husband an ultimatum and telling him i will leave him if he doesn't stop acting like he's God. Fair.
My husband and I have been married for four years and we have two children. When we first met, he told me he was an atheist.
I didn't really care. I was born into a Catholic family, but never really practiced.
So religion was never a part of our relationship. But over the past year or so, he has shifted.
At first, it started with him saying he is questioning our existence. And that led to him believing that there may be a higher power.
It ended with him believing he himself is actually God. No, no.
Oh, I thought this was like one of my exes who just acted like he had a God complex. Wow.
This is juicy.

At first, I thought he was joking. Yeah.
So I humored him a bit. But after months of it getting progressively worse and worse, I'm done with it.

He built a small little room in our backyard in which he goes and prays to himself. He has said things like, quote, if it isn't true, then why do I believe it? It's gone from stupid to downright creepy and scary.
He also has been looking into renting a building so he can open up a legitimate church. I find him oftentimes just sitting in silence,

him saying he feels people praying to him and that it's time for him to finally reach out and help those who need him. I told him enough is enough and that I am not going to deal with this.
I said he must drop all of this shit immediately or I will leave him and take the kids. He seems to not understand and thinks I'm just rebelling, but will find my light soon or something like that.
Am I the asshole for threatening to leave him and take the kids? What if he is God? I don't know if he would have been Atheist before but You never know This is This is a

Different one

I'm wondering if this is him having his first psychosis episode. You can develop like there's no ages mentioned.
And some people don't develop things like schizophrenia until they're 26. So what if this is him just having his like psychotic break? Yeah.
And I don't know if that's still an appropriate term, but you know what I mean? Like I'm wondering if this is like the first sign of his symptoms or like my head goes down this rabbit hole of like does he have a brain tumor because how do

you go from completely normal atheist to all of a sudden I am God I want to buy a church I can hear and feel people praying to me this is like not normal this one has me a little bit speechless I'm like very perplexed

There's no comments from OP yet either

It's almost like he

Some This one has me a little bit speechless I'm like very perplexed There's no comments from OP yet either It's almost like he It's almost like he was so atheist That when he started to think maybe Maybe there is a God He's like well why Why not it Why not me I am God I God I God I God now I What does he say here if it isn't true then why do i believe it i believe unicorns are real i don't have proof dragons definitely existed bigfoot exists dragons were dinosaurs probably that's where they came from yeah it. But how did people...
They found the fossils.

They found the fossils and they thought that there were dragons living in caves that were just waiting to come out and terrorize them.

But it was actually just the fossils of dinosaurs.

That's why the dinosaurs look different.

You're kind of ruining this for me. Sorry.

I do believe in dragons too.

That's why dinosaurs look different in different cultures.

So like the dragon in the Chinese culture looks different than like the dragon in like an English culture. Did you learn this in your dinosaur class? Probably.
God, that was worth it. But it's because those were mostly most of the dinosaurs resided were in certain areas.
What do you think the weirdest thing you believe in is? Huh. believe in aliens um with with that topic i could be convinced it's like i'm convinced it's one of those things where i'm like i'm so gullible it's one of those things where i don't see why there wouldn't be life form outside of the world when this universe is so huge but we don't have anything concrete yet That i'm not what about all the ufos that the the government has now confirmed.
Yeah, so That's why i'm saying like i'm i'm interested Okay, but I just we don't have we don't have someone right here We don't have an alien right in front of us. So i'm not gonna go go with a pitchfork route for this cause.
Get your pitchforks and flames ready. We're going to bat for the aliens.
Aliens exist. My pitchfork ready? I don't dude.
Sometimes things just come out of my mouth.

I don't know.

But I'm just saying that I'm not like, I don't have this strong conviction.

Pretty just open to the idea of possibilities of conspiracy theories being absolutely false or potentially true.

I'm just.

So JFK, you can't get on board with that one?

No, I think wasn't that one actually ended up being confirmed that Lee Harvey Oswald couldn't have shot him.

Yeah.

See, I don't know.

I don't look too far into this stuff.

I'm just I'm kind of.

Yeah, I got really into there's a documentary on Netflix right now.

It's called like the Marilyn tapes and the all the happenings around Marilyn Monroe's death are so sketchy.

Really?

And then there's like things where like her body disappeared for three hours.

And.

Oh my God.

She was dead a lot longer than they say.

Crazy.

And the documentary kind of gets into it.

So.

I.

Really don't believe she died of like a.

An accidental.

Yeah. Purpose.
But moving along, this next story I really wanted to read.

And I've been talking to the OP in it.

I've been emailing her back and forth now.

And she said the next update she's going to drop on her personal accounts on Sunday.

But she'll email it to me tomorrow morning.

I don't know. now and she said the next update she's gonna drop on her personal accounts on sunday but she'll email it to me tomorrow morning and i'm like oh my god i want to record it now so i'm wondering if what we do is record it now see your thoughts and then yeah like it is so so juicy yeah let's do that so i'll either patch in the next update just me reading it without Lauren so we can, like, really get it in, have it in this episode.
Because it's so juicy. And there's going to be some conspiracy theories I have around it.
Oh, wow. I didn't even realize you were leading us up to that.
Yeah. Yeah.
I thought that was just a random side question you had. No.
Okay. Okay, so this next one is coming from a user named Juliet Pepperwood.
Juliet is going to be continuously posting updates for this story on her IG. Juliet, as in like Romeo and Juliet, Pepperwood.
Like it literally reminded me of the Pepperwood Chronicles from New Girl. I don't know if that's a connection for OP, but you will see why you're going to want to go follow the IG.
You're going to want to stay up to date because this is one of the craziest ones. Really? Okay, I'm giving it too much of a lead up.
So it was originally posted on r slash wedding shaming. The mods deleted it due to advertising because OP listed their copyright details in an attempt to stop impersonators from stealing the story, I guess.
So the original post was titled, Bride Made Profit on Bachelorette. Sister-in-law drama.
So much tea. I'm glad I can spill to my Reddit community because I can't gossip about it to my family.
So about six months ago, the bride planned her destination bachelorette trip and charged each of the 11 girls $650 for the Airbnb. I was salty about the high cost, but it's my sister-in-law, so I sucked it up and I paid her.
I also was suspicious about the high as fuck price so I did cross check the Airbnb listing and it checked out. Yes this bee wanted a $2,300 a night beachfront house.
Well today I'm chatting about wedding stuff with my brother who is marrying my future sister-in-law. And he said something along the lines of, quote,

what a relief her dad paid for the Airbnb, because that would have been so expensive for your group. Oh, I about choked.
I said, hey, are you sure about that? Because all 11 girls paid $650 for the house alone.

Maybe run it by her.

Dot, dot, dot.

His face turned purple. So I take it he had no idea.
To add to the greed going on here, when I got married, I flew her out, paid for her accommodations, paid for hair and makeup, paid for her bridesmaids dress, and paid transportation because she was going through a hard time. Now she has the balls to steal from me.
I get that weddings are expensive, but don't have one if it requires stealing from your bridesmaids. I'm assuming I'm the only bridesmaid who is aware of what's going on here.
Not sure if I should spill to the group or just let it go. There's a chance her dad stepped in and paid for it after the fact, and she just chose not to refund us.
I'm not clear on the exact situation, and I want to avoid embarrassing my brother. That's the original post.
I'd be calling her ass out. I wouldn't hold back.
We talked about one like this once, but it was on a smaller scale. Do you remember it was when we were in Canada? And the girl was saying that she had booked some type of getaway and all of her co workers or friends paid her.
Yeah. And it was it was a much less though.
It was like they paid her each like 80 bucks or something. Yeah, she essentially got like she found out a holiday fund from her work and she found out afterwards and so she was asking if it would be rude not to refund them or if she should just keep it that way yeah because she's like technically like i work there and it the fund or the bonus is for me because i worked there because I work there.
So she was kind of asking, would it be the asshole thing to do to just not tell them? I think it is like six hundred and fifty dollars is a lot of money for just the Airbnb. Yeah, that's not including travel, restaurants, drinks, dinners, like whatever else the weekend whatever celebrations includes I would be really disheartened that my friend wasn't like honest with me yeah it's at least like completely agree it's a it's a lot of money to do especially when you know up front like she did it's slimy it's like if it was last minute if she decided on this everyone agreed to it and then later on her dad said you know what i'm gonna refund you for the airbnb for a wedding present maybe it'd be a little bit different but the fact that she went into this being slimy is what it sounds like yeah and even even if it was after the fact yeah you can like approach like 650 could be it's a it's half of someone's rent that they're struggling with or maybe their whole rent depending on where

they live like you don't know yeah and so it's like at least give your friends like these are

your bridesmaids these are supposed to be girls that are your friends yeah you're essentially like

lying by omission kind of screwing over your friends yeah i would be really really pissed yeah especially in situations like this where people want to go to support their friend on a big day on big moment and so they don't want to you know cut them short and be like i'm not going to show up because i don't want to spend that much money so they spend spend money painfully. You know, that happens.
If it was a trip where everybody wanted to go, they actively were like, let's all do this to get together and have a great time. Then maybe it wouldn't be so painful.
But the fact that, you know, people are doing this literally to celebrate you, even if they don't want to go there, even if they don't want to pay that because they want you to feel special on your day so that's what really gets me like specifically that yeah is what it really gets me update number one thanks for all the advice and support yes i agree with most of you who are saying i'm morally obligated to spill the beans because 650 is not child's play. This is what I'm going to do.
First, I'm going to talk to my brother and give him a chance to clear it up with sister-in-law. Before I make a scene, I want to understand what's really going on.
For example, did daddy pay for the trip, but sister-in-law decided to put that towards a different wedding expense? Things like that. That answer will determine when slash how I tell the rest of the bridesmaids.
I'm going to give my brother only one to two days because this trip is literally next week. Stay tuned for update number two.
Yeah. See, that's what I'm wondering if it was like, hey, you know what? I don't want you to pay for that entire Airbnb.
like let me pay for it sweetie and then she's like

Actually all of my bridesmaids already agreed to pay and they already paid me for it and he goes

Oh, well then take this amount of money and have have it go to another wedding expense

Do you know what I mean? Like I I would be curious to know the dynamic language is yeah, okay

So I think that's smart though. Like

Don't put the cart before the horse don't have like an emotional reaction because you're super upset

Thank you. languages yeah okay so i think that's smart though like don't put the cart before the horse don't have like an emotional reaction because you're super upset because i would i would have dude i would have like put it in a group chat and been like hey like just curious when we're getting refunded i i heard your dad paid for the airbnb i would have just like put it in the group chat just slid that in there but i don't know i'm in mode lately.
Like I almost bought a horse online today without even seeing it. I didn't know you could buy horses online.
Oh my God. Yeah.
It's really cute. But you didn't see it.
Nope. Well, I like I saw a picture.
I didn't see it in person. When I tell you I'm in chaos mode, like I canceled the lease on the studio.
I didn I didn't touch it in person like that like I didn't see it you know what I mean but like I saw a picture but what if it's photoshopped I don't know what if it's AI I thought you meant you were online looking at like horse descriptions just without pictures just this is Freddie I wouldn't put a Freddie likes grass. But.
Dude, I'm unhinged lately.

I'm going through something.

I don't know what it is. Okay.
So update number two, which is coming three days after update number one. So update number two is from January 26, 2024.
All right. So I regrouped with my brother.
My mom also stepped in, bypassed my brother, and got some more info directly from her dad. All caps, here's the tea.
Future sister-in-law's dad did not offer to cover the cost until a few months after we all paid for the trip. This was after he found out the cost and was pissed that she chose a $2,300 a night house and then asked us to pay.
Apparently, he threatened not to pay for the wedding if she added more expenses onto the wedding party. Turns out she originally wanted it in the Maldives and he forbid her.
According to my mom, who chatted with him directly, he felt embarrassed when he heard about the Airbnb price and wanted to save face with my side of the family. So he gave sister-in-law about 7k to cover the cost of the house.
She was supposed to refund us, but obviously that never happened. Oh, that is that shitty.
All caps. This is where it gets good.
Oh, God. So my mom went total FBI and learned that in addition to not paying us, sister-in-law didn't put the money towards a different wedding expense either.
All caps. She doesn't have it.
So where did it go? What did she spend it on? There a full-blown investigation going down between our two families right now i have been asked by my husband too or the husband to be is he in on the investigation just says investigation okay okay i've been asked by my mom not to alert the bridesmaids just yet until we get the last bits of info and come to a resolution with both sister-in-law and her dad. But we will tell them ASAP one way or another.
And we'll come back tomorrow with another update. Wow.
Crazy. Update three, which is the very next day, the plot thickens.
So as this drama is all unfolding, the maid of honor, who doesn't know what's going on yet, is continuing her duties. We all get a four paragraph text from her outlining the dress code for each night of the bachelorette, per the bride's orders.
Keep in mind, the bride is asking us all to go out and buy new outfits for each day of the trip. And the themes are wild.
Animal print Thursday, faux fur Friday, sparkle dress Saturday, and Barbie brunch Sunday. As if we're all going to go out and buy that shit one week before the trip or at all.
Thankfully, the bridesmaids seem to be waking up to the bullshit. Several of them wrote back saying they won't be able to pull together these outfits in time, and one flat out said it's just not going to happen.
But that's just a side story to the absolute shit show that's unfolding. My mom is very involved now, as she's paid a decent chunk of this wedding as well and does not like that the bride is throwing around thousands of dollars from her dad as well as lying to her bridal party.
She set up a meeting directly with sister-in-law to cut the bullshit and explain what's going on. She told sister-in-law she's going to inform the bridesmaids herself unless she gets a valid answer.
At this point, I'm just shoveling down popcorn waiting for the events to unfold. I will be back tonight with hopefully the final update.
Update 4, 1-29-2024. So coming two days later.
All caps, a swan ice sculpture. She used the 7K to book a swan-shaped ice sculpture to be displayed at the reception and didn't tell anyone.
Turns out her dad banned her from adding any more extras to the wedding design because it was already so expensive and unnecessary. Wait.
The 7k went towards A swan A swan ice sculpture

Okay unnecessary. Wait, the 7k went towards a swan? A swan.
A swan ice sculpture. Okay.
When he Venmo'd her for the Airbnb, she thought she was being sneaky and kept it instead. She didn't even tell my brother this.
He only found out that her dad decided to cover the Airbnb because those two went out for cigars one night and it came up. So that mystery is solved thanks to my mini FBI crew.
But now the real questions remain. Where the fuck is my $650 and how to break the news to the bridesmaids? Out of the kindness of her soul, my mom is giving sister-in-law 24 hours to confess to the bridesmaids and figure out how to pay us back our money because you know what i did not spend 650 on some damn ice i have kids to feed i have bills to pay yeah it is taking everything in me not to text the bridesmaids group right now but my mom is trying to give sister-in-law one opportunity to do the right thing.
This has

been a roller coaster. Don't know if anyone here is still interested, but let me know if I should post the final outcome with the bridesmaids in one last update.
Lord have mercy. Oh my god.
Imagine finding out that you paid $650 on an ice duck foot.

I would be. finding out that you paid $650 on an ice duck foot.

I would be, I raged.

I would take a blowtorch to that thing at the wedding.

I'd be like, I would rather light my money on fire

than pay for a damn ice sculpture.

Oh my God.

No, no, no, no.

Just piss on it. That would be an idea.
i'm picturing a bridesmaid scene oh my god the pushing the cookie pushing the ice sculpture i'd be taking shots off that swan's ass like a shot luge have you seen those ice sculptures oh yeah yeah yeah yes i've done those that they're sick i think that's like the only acceptable ice sculpture is a shot luge oh my gosh yeah that's right i i'll show you a picture of one that i've done before it's really i'm thinking about it now though i'm like is that sanitary because i know alcohol kills germs but i don't know that was i don't know if i do one post-covid now that i'm thinking about it have you done one post-covid i don't know actually But was, I don't know if I'd do one post-COVID now that I'm thinking about it. Have you done one post-COVID?

I don't know, actually.

But I think that I would.

Because whenever I did it, we weren't, we didn't put our mouth on it.

You know, it poured.

Yeah, waterfalled.

I like that.

That doesn't really freak me out.

I feel like I did it at a party with you.

It was at like a Hollywood Hills house party somewhere. Probably.
Sounds right. Back when we were young.
Okay. What would you do? Would you be like, I want my money back.
J.G. Wentworth, 8.775 now.
I don't know that, you know. I think the way that it's playing out is playing out perfectly.
That's so I would just let that happen and eat my popcorn. Like he said.
OK, update five to five 2024. So it's coming six days later.
OK, as promised, here's the latest tea served boiling hot. This is a long update and I'm going to try and get everything in.
First, let's start with the bride's explanation to her family, myself, my mom, my brother, her fiance, and her dad. She broke down crying, saying that the wedding planning has been getting to her head, and she has been crushed under the pressure to have the perfect wedding, which she felt couldn't go on without this alleged ice swan.
I didn't buy her sob story. After this whole incident, I think she is a delusional, controlling, attention-starving bridezilla who's using the wedding as a way to compete with other girls on Instagram.
By the way, her job is influencer, if I didn't mention that yet. My brother took the bait.
To be honest, I don't blame him. This is his future wife, and he said he wants to help her with her mental health and get her back to a good place.
He is disturbed by the situation, but will continue to support her. The wedding is on for those who were curious.
Next, let's get into the matter of the missing 7K and whether we're getting our money back. The sad, gut-wrenching answer? Probably not.
Her dad said he'd already paid for the Airbnb cost once and he will not do it again. He said his daughter is 31 and needs to get herself out of her own mess and figure out how to make it right.
She chimed in that the 7K is gone and asked how she would possibly pay us back. My brother refused to pay for her screw up.
While I love that everyone is finally forcing this bee to be an adult, I would like my money back more. Unfortunately, it's not worth it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. shitty of her.
Yeah. Now on to the bridesmaids.
After some threats from my mom, sister-in-law finally broke down and contacted the bridesmaids in our group chat. She sent a text that made my skin crawl.
Oh, God. Quote, hey, ladies, you're my bride squad.

So I feel compelled to share that my dad recently offered to pay for our batch accommodations.

However, being that the wedding is so expensive, I have decided to put his donation towards a

wedding expense. I hope you all understand and I can't wait to party with

you all next week! Exclamation point. Dude, you read that so well.
Is anyone triggered? Oh my god. OP goes on to say, oh hell no.
I immediately replied back making sure everyone knew the expense was an ice sculpture. An ice swan.
Come on, people. Many of them replied and expressed how they would have loved to have used that $650 for something more important.
But ultimately, no one has backed out. One of the girls started a side chat without the bride and asked if there's any chance of us getting our money back if we force sister-in-law to cancel the reservation unfortunately since we're only a week out we aren't eligible for a refund they decided to go through with the bachelorette trip or else it would be a literal waste of 650 dollars As for myself, I'm in the same boat.
I would rather run myself over than go on this trip, but $650 is not a small amount, and I can't fathom just throwing it down the drain. I haven't made my final decision yet.
If I do go, it will be solely to avoid eating the $650 plus my airfare. I will not be doing any of the planned events or outfits or contributing even one more dollar.
I would have my own mini vacation as best as I can. I'm really upset that it seems like this crazy person is going to get her way after all.
I'm not surprised. I feel like I just know.
Sadly, I'm not either. No.
She sounds like so entitled. Would you go? Or would you be like, I know if I go, I am going to spend more money on food, whatever else I do.
So it's like, even if you go, you're still going more in the hole. Yeah, I know.
I mean, it depends because I think that if your brother, if you have a good relationship with your brother and your brother still wants to marry this person, it would cause more of a thing to not go or to go and then just like sit on your own the whole time it would create like a really weird dynamic and so I honestly think that I would go through with it depending on her finances too if she's like really struggling with finances and if this and spending any more money on this trip is going to put her in a really bad place and she's gonna have a lot a lot of anxiety especially because she meant she has kids um then that's a that's a different story but if she like can afford to go through with this trip i personally would and then i would just distance myself and then i would not agree to do any other thing with this person you know it's kind of like yeah you already you already were going to spend that money even though you didn't want to so at that point I'm like I would just go through with it Just not make it a big thing And then just distance myself In the future Because that is like the added layer here This is going to be Your sister-in-law still If it was just a friend You could just be like you know what But this is someone who is going to have a relationship with your mom, with your brother, with your family. So it is a fine line that this is going to be your family unless your brother comes to his senses.
Because this is crazy. 7K on an ice sculpture? That is a new car.
That is like a lot of things that's a horse that's a purse like an ice sculpture something that literally is going to melt i don't get it i know i agree okay mini update coming to 10 five days later there are many curious coming in, so I want to keep you in the loop. More drama has unfolded amongst the bridesmaids.
The side text without the bride popped off, and we have all agreed to do the following. One, we will be going on the trip, but it is no longer a bachelorette trip.
We will all be taking personal vacations with our hubbies slash significant others while staying at the property. We were forced into this beachfront mansion plus airfare, so we're going to make the most out of it.
Two. Wait, do they each have their own rooms? How can they bring their husbands? I mean, $2,500 a night? They better each have their own room.
Can you imagine you pay that much money and you get a pull-out sofa in the couch where the sun comes up, blasts you right away at 6 a.m.? I don't know. The Airbnb can be really expensive, especially if it's like on a beachfront.
Clearly. How many days is it? Four outfit days.
Thursday, Friday, Saturday, Sunday. so that's lot of days it actually doesn't sound that much then to me if it was four days two hundred dollars each night of a stay for your own room yeah but i'd rather have a hotel with amenities yeah i'm a hotel girly like airbnbs they're not my fave i like both depending on where the Airbnb is.
I've been at really bad Airbnbs. Depends on the vibe for sure.
I think the main shitty thing is that the dad literally was like, I don't want you to ask your bridesmaids to pay this amount. You picked an expensive place.
Don't do that. Let me pay for it so you can pay them back so that they don't have to spend all this money on this.
Yeah. That's what's so shitty about it, you know.
Two, we've all backed out of hosting and paying for the bridal shower. The bride will need to find another way to move forward if she wants to have it.
We will attend as guests if she has it, and we will not be gifting anything.

Mother of the bride is absolutely furious.

At the bridesmaids or at her?

More on this later.

Oh.

We're letting the bride know she needs to cancel the ice swan and give us our money back.

After some more research, we doubt all of the 7k went towards the alleged swan because it doesn't seem like they cost that much.

I would like to thank you. research, we doubt all of the 7K went towards the alleged swan because it doesn't seem like they cost that much.
I won't be back for a while because I want to save my next update for after the trip. Stay tuned.
Final update. 2-17-2024.
Warning, this is a long one. Before we get into this final update, enjoy an ad.
Final update. Warning, this is a long one.
The absolute tea I have today. It took me so long to write this because I am at a complete and utter loss for words.
Where to begin? Let me start with this. There is no Ice Swan.
There never was an Ice Swan. Oh, God.
It was an elaborate fabrication designed to distract everyone from where the missing 7K actually went. Where did it go? R.I.P.
Ice Swan. Turns out there was a reason behind sister-in-law's luxury bachelorette location.
Here's what happened. All the bridesmaids showed up to the beachfront mansion with our significant others.
Sister-in-law had already been made aware that it was no longer a bachelorette, but to our complete shock, she was still stunned that we actually meant it. She arrived last in her pre-booked limo, absolutely fuming that no one else showed up to the limo meeting spot at the airport.
She was the only one still sticking to the original itinerary. Then she was flabbergasted that the husbands slash significant others were with us.
It was a comedy show at best. Wait, were all of like everyone's husbands? Wow.
Sounds like it. Which is kind of lucky that everyone was seeing somebody.
Well, I was just thinking that maybe the guys would be like, I don't want to be involved in this. No drama for me.
Yeah. Hey, trip is a trip.
Anyways, we went about our individual mini vacations and eventually someone realized it had been about 48 hours since anyone had seen sister-in-law. I assumed she was mad and either flew home or went to stay somewhere else.
Then the unthinkable unfolds. Sister-in-law rolls up in the driveway in a wheelchair, being pushed by two female nurses.
The entire group jumped into action, thinking something horrible happened. Everyone ran over to see what was going on, but the nurses ushered us away and wheeled sister-in-law into her room.
At this point, I'm actually very concerned. We're all banging on her door asking if she's okay.
The nurses eventually leave and say they legally can't reveal the nature of her health issue, but assure us she's fine. I call my brother and mom, but get no answer.
So I finally decide to call her mom,

aka the mother of the bride, who was furious that we took over the bachelorette party. Mother of the bride reveals what actually took place.
She isn't sick.

She didn't have a health issue. There was no accident.
She got her boobs done. Wow.
That's what she did with the money. No way.
Oh, man. How is she planning to stick to the plan if she did that in the beginning of the...
Was this towards the end?

Or is this in the beginning?

Maybe she just sped it up because everyone else was doing their own thing.

She planned to do it at the very end.

I'm confused.

I'm...

Oh my god.

Okay.

Yes, folks.

You read that correctly.

She had planned as part of the original itinerary to disappear for an afternoon and returned with a new set of melons. Dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot, dot.
I'm sorry. What? But the money was gone.
I'm so sorry. I can't return it to you guys.
Money is gone. The location of the beachfront mansion is conveniently five minutes away from a very famous cosmetic surgeon's office.
The reason she needed this giant ass property was not really to host 11 girls. It was to host 11 girls plus the surgery recovery nurses and personal chef that she had reserved for after the operation.
There is so much more that we need to unpack. I honestly don't know where to begin.
What was her mother's involvement in all of this? What was the cost of the procedure? Guessing around 7k? And why was it meant to be a part of the bachelorette trip? What was the purpose of the ice swan lie? What the fuck? Will the bridesmaids, myself included, pursue legal action? Where does this leave my brother? Is this lady okay mentally? Was this a horribly misplaced cry for attention? Was it an F you to the bridesmaids somehow? So many questions remain. I am only a few hours back from this trip, so this is all the information I have right now.
I was intending for this to be my final update, and I just want to say thank you all for the support, advice, bags of popcorn, and funny input. This has been a wild ride, and I'm glad I could share with you.
So far, we have had this crazy ordeal picked up by news publications, podcasts, and a magazine, and I literally want to write a book about this experience. I've already revealed a great deal of info so to protect my brother's privacy moving forward I think I will need to step away from the updates.
Oh but didn't you say you have one? She's emailing me. No way.
Yeah so we'll get an update that is not posted. However.
Does she know that you're saying on the podcast? Yeah okay. I'm very transparent when I reach out to.
I know, but I'm just thinking if she didn't want her brother to have any more association and she doesn't want to update on Reddit. Yeah.
But she changed her mind. We'll get there.
I asked her to come on. Yeah.
I said, please come on. Where does she live? No idea.
Okay. I just said like, hey, I'd love to read your story.
Is that okay? I'd also love to have you join via Zoom.

Oh, yeah.

But as you'll see, it's not possible.

It's not possible?

Wait, why?

Y'all see.

Not an update.

Hey, friends.

I'm getting boatloads of requests for an update, so I've decided to make you all a deal.

I will come back with an update after the wedding in May.

As of right now, it is still on. That's all I can say for now.
Check back in May. That was on 228.
Okay. 329, March 29th, a couple of days ago, a month later.
Hi friends. Thanks for being so patient for my update.
I wanted to let everyone know I have the update of all updates coming for you. It turns out the drama just won't quit with this wedding.
It is so juicy that for legal reasons, I cannot share it just yet, but will be able to post in a day or so. Update 3-30-2024.
The wedding is off. Yeah, baby.
Oh, shit. All all right y'all get your comfy socks and your popcorn because i've been holding on to this update for so long and i have to get it all out there i feel like at this point we've all become good friends literally when i do these updates i like to imagine we're all together eating snacks and gossiping.
I'm on my desktop right now,

so you know I mean business. Anyways, let me start with this.
The wedding is officially off.

I know a lot of you out there were team hashtag cancel the wedding, so this should warm your soul.

For me personally, I wanted it to work out for my brother despite her insanity. I was kind of

hoping this would somehow all blow over like a bad dream and he could find normalcy again. Unfortunately, this is not the case.
Here's what happened. When I last updated you, sister-in-law had pulled up to the bachelorette with a new set of melons and shocked us all.
We were all left wondering what the fuck. And I told you I needed to stop the updates to protect my brother's privacy I'd be so pissed if she said i'm so sorry you guys.
I can't pay you back You know, I bought new tits when people are like is there any way that you can pay us back and she's like No, i'm sorry right here, baby And then but the fact that she said no i'm sorry like the money is completely gone and then She gets it. I mean unless she prepaid but also i feel like a breast augmentation is more than 7k well where which country were they in that is true yeah medical tourism is a thing well that has all changed now and i've been given permission by my brother to spill the fucking tea.
My brother was aware that

sister-in-law had planned on getting a breast augmentation at some point this year. He actually knew it would be during the bachelorette trip.
Despite thinking it was very weird, he wanted to support her. So he kept her surprise a secret.
What he did not know was that she may have used the bridesmaid's money or even her dad's to finance it. But it turns out that she did not, in fact, use our money or her dad's money to pay for the new titties.
She's his. That's because her procedure was on the house.
Why, you ask? She hooked up with the guy? Because she has been having an affair with the surgeon for over a year. Stop.
What? A year! Oh. See, this is why when these weird lies happen, you gotta actually stop and look into it.
Because when somebody starts lying about little things, you got to start to wonder what else they're lying about. It's and here's an example, because out of all of this, the thing, the theme for me the entire time was the reason that I was not a fan of the sister-in-law is because of the amount of how OK she was with lying.
Do you know what I mean? Like that's what gets me. It was just one thing after another.
If she asked everybody. Hey I know this is expensive.
But I really want to go here. If you guys don't want to come.
You know I understand we can do something when I'm in town. But like let me know if you're interested.
Because I would love to do this. It'll cost this much per person.
And then she would be like. Hey you you guys my dad found out that I asked you guys for this much money and he wanted me to pay you guys back and so you know what I mean all of that is just like that's integrity it's just all the ulterior motives yeah and it's just it's all these like little lies the entire time and the twist the twist of making like every like light of everything and and and then now we're here now she was having a goddamn affair for a year with a fucking plastic surgeon who just did his boot her boobs i just oh yeah that's why i don't that's why i don't do don't wow that's why i don't do doctors no that's not what i was gonna say that's why I don't do don't wow that's why I don't do doctors no that's what I was gonna say that's why I don't like when people have little lies because it's not just a little lie it's like if you're comfortable with little lies and there's differences right of course I don't know I'm trying to think of a good example like oh no that was my last piece of gum I don't know yeah yeah yeah like that yeah no I there's not not not every lie I think is an offense or like accidental lies where you're like oh yeah I went there last week but it was actually like two months ago like whatever no I don't know but it was like this was so pre-planned like yeah you the affair aside you knew you were really wanting to go there for your surgery the whole time bachelorette trips are not plastic surgery vacations.
No, that's so odd So you took advantage of your friends and had them fund your plastic surgery recovery spot Yeah, come on. Yeah, you're right.
I shouldn't call them little lies Um, but they were lies that she was able to try to twist to make light of yeah you know like I wanted to be a surprise for you guys that's what she I don't care about your new boobs right right but but in her mind she wasn't lying she was trying to or I don't know if this was in her mind or not but that's how she was trying to spin it is that she was trying to make it be this whole fun oh my god the bachelorette got boobies you know and that's how she was trying to spin it can't you hear it yeah hey girls hey ladies new tatas for the bride to be who wants to take a shot off them oh my god as the drains are still in them. Oh, my God.
Alcohol sterilized my stitches. That's the thing.
It's not like you have to recover. People that I have known that have gotten breast surgeries, it's not like you're up bopping around the next day.
You have drains. You're supposed to relax.
Yeah. OP goes on to say, yes say yes you read that correctly she has been diddling her married married plastic surgeon for more than 14 months he is a all caps very well-known plastic surgeon and his legal team has been on me like white on rice.
There are limits to what I can disclose. At this current moment, I have been advised not to disclose the state he practices in, his name, or any personally identifying details.
Why? You can get sued. Why? Defamation.
You can sue for anything. What's going to actually

stick? I don't know, but tough. Back to the story.
He wanted... But if she doesn't say his name,

she's just saying his state. I just don't understand.
Back to the story. He wanted to

fly her out for a complimentary titty upgrade.

We found out because his wife found her sad little influencer IG page,

tracked her down, and showed up to the family home,

which would be her father's house because she still lives there.

There is so much more to say.

She is a fucking tornado.

That I think I'm going to have to split it into two updates because my fingers are legit going numb I really wanted to get that off my chest I know you might be wanting to know the specifics like so where did all the money go after all how did the wife find out and what happened when she showed up that's an update in itself how is my brother handling this besides of course leaving her dusty ass what did sister-in-law have to say for herself i promise i will be back to finish this horror story wow and that's it and that's where we're at wow that is uh that until she emails me the next update tomorrow i just was locked locked in into another world. Like that was true storytelling.
Just, I mean, yeah. Great job to the writer.
Great job to your reading. Like that was fantastic.
I think this will be a continuous series. So be sure if you want the T, Juliet, J-U-L-I-i-e-t pepper wood on ig i believe she's on tiktok now as well so but she got banned from reddit reddit banned her ass why she's been posting about it um there's a lot on wait did you say op got yeah op is like banned from reddit whoa yeah now i'm kind of scared like what if they come after me for reading this story i don't know but both of our faces my job is on the line but op did post something on instagram that said hey like any mentions of a specific surgeon's name will be deleted.
You know, I can't talk about it. And I he's well known for all of us or just people in the state.
So the reason I think she can't say what state or anything he's in, if you think about very well known plastic surgeons, especially those that utilize social media, there's one name that really comes to mind for me oh i wish i could creep on a sister-in-law's ig her she's an influencer that's what i'm saying i want to find her i know there's some fbi people out there but again i do not want to get op in trouble because i really do want to protect op in this like she's being so kind to like share the update with us yeah before you know releasing it on her own pages yeah so um but i think you can speculate especially given the fact that i can't name the city i can't name blah blah blah blah oh my gosh so i think didn't she say that there's been multiple podcasts that have went over this story so so it's like it's out there though it's out there yeah i'm not sure if other people are speculating but just because she did post on her ig like hey any comments with names guessing are getting deleted it's kind of was on her own ig yeah oh i thought you meant her Wait, I want to look at her IG. Yeah, Juliette Pepperwood.
Oh, yes. I'll make sure it's linked on our Instagram as well.
So it's really easy to just like find from the Two Hot Takes page. But yeah, it is really wild.
And I'm really excited to read the last update for you guys. But that was it for Lauren.
We're done for the night wait i was trying to look up juliette pepperwood is that how you say it yeah juliette i'm not finding it did you find it yeah i'll link it i'll link it for everyone if you're having a hard time finding it other people might too so it'll be linked on the two hot takes instagram is Is it with the spicy? Yes. I found it.
Okay. Yeah.
Oh, where is she though? No pictures of her. She's being very private, using voice filters, which I would too.
I mean, this is like, you don't want to be identified. Yeah.
No. If he's got a lawyer on this.
If he's coming after her like that. Yeah.
Like there's no defining details here, but yet like there's lawyers involved to where like this is now becoming yeah like threatening yeah so they mean business but also don't cheat on your wife and then give the girl a free boob job don't do that bad idea come on come on doctor come on yeah don't get don't get Never mind. Don't get super big tits for free.
That's not what I was going to say. If you can do that without being really shady and awful to everyone else around you, then go for it.
Yeah. But not this way.
We wouldn't recommend. No.
Definitely not. No.
Okay. Well, vanish.
Bye, Lauren. Bye.
And bam. Here we go with the last update.
Okay, friends. As promised, here is that last update that OP emailed me.
Obviously, Lauren's not here. So it's just me reading.
It's going to feel so strange. So, Julietwood says update seven, the missing 7K.
All right, friends, if you're still here with me on this wild ride, it's time to spill some of the final tea in this crazy kettle. I want to start with the details of sister-in-law's illicit affair with the plastic surgeon.
Much of the detail was provided to me by my brother. When he ended the engagement, he asked sister-in-law to give him the whole truth.
After all, it's the least she could do. She fessed up and my brother has given me permission to share.
Here's what happened. The wife learned about the affair thanks to a pair of Tiffany diamond earrings, which apparently went missing from her jewelry collection.
At some point, she goes down to the hospital to bring her husband lunch and sees a female patient wearing the exact pair of earrings she's lost. And you guessed it, that patient was our beloved bride.
Now, I don't know the timeline on when she noticed these earrings went missing, but I do know that she saw my sister-in-law wearing the earrings at the hospital while getting a consultation for her free melon job. This would have been long before the bachelorette trip, most likely on one of their earlier visits while sister-in-law was flying out of town to see him.
The wife at some point brings this up to her husband, the surgeon, who probably plays it off as a coincidence.

In her confession to my brother, sister-in-law admitted to stealing the wife's earrings during one of their visits. The surgeon demanded them back after realizing the wife spotted sister-in-law wearing them that day.
Problem is, sister-in-law doesn't have the earrings anymore. She claims she lost them.
She asked the surgeon how much the earrings cost and swore she would make amends by sending him the money. He reveals they are from Tiffany's and cost about $7,500.
And there you have it. The mystery of the 7k is solved.
When sister-in-law's father offered to cover the cost of the Airbnb, she probably saw a golden opportunity to snag almost the full amount of money she needed to cover the earrings. She did admit to my brother that she sent her dad's money to the surgeon after he paid for the Airbnb.
And to be honest, I don't know who's crazier, sister-in-law for stealing the earrings or the surgeon for continuing to have an affair with someone who literally stole from his wife. Anyways, back to the story.
So I'll never know if the surgeon gifted his wife a pair of new diamond sparkles or not, but I do know that she didn't let her suspicion go. I don't know for sure if the earrings were the giveaway or if she found out later.
She ended up getting sister-in-law's name somehow and looking her up on social media. How she ended up at the family home, I'll probably never know, but I'm sure anyone with a name and a mission can find an address online.
I'm not at liberty to share the details of the confrontation between sister-in-law and the wife. This update ends here, but I'll be back with at least one more for you soon.
I don't know about you guys, but this girl is giving very delusional. Also, like, the earrings must have felt like such a trophy for her to go to your affair partner's house and steal something from the wife.
That must have like been such like a power move trophy for her. This girl is giving very unhinged.
And I'm actually shocked the surgeon kept dating her too. But for the wife to see her in the waiting room or wherever she was, nuts.
The timing. The universe trying to send the wife a message.
All of this happening. That shit crazy.
I don't know. There's a lot, a lot to unpack here.
But really glad the brother got out. Hope OP doesn't get sued.
Let's be sure to keep the comments clean about who we think the surgeon is. Don't mention the name.
That's all I'm going to say. I think any further updates we do will be over on our Patreon.
So head over there. There's also more juicy stuff.
But here I go patching this in with Lauren's exit. Okay, well, what did you think of my theme today? This was a really fun episode.
Yeah. I liked it.
I thought it was fantastic. Yeah, baby.

We will be doing a patron story from this theme because there's so many good ones. And I'm

recording an episode with Spencer tomorrow and some of them fit that theme too. So we're going

to keep on rolling with some really good, crazy stories in these next couple episodes.

Is this one coming out this week next week yeah wait like while we're in nashville oh oh today's thursday today oh god wait no that's when i'm gonna be at the cabo wedding oh no oh. Please don't ruin a vacation for me in the comments.

Oh, I just get anxious.

OK, well, this was really fun.

Yay.

We're off to Patreon.

Thank you guys for being here.

If you want another juicy one, head on over there.

But other than that, still on tour.

Couple shows left. We have Chris Clemens joining us for Chicago, Philly, and New York.

The second show in Chicago, as of today, has some tickets left.

But other than that.

Other than that, I'm working on thickening my skin.

There we go.

Me as well.

I only cry two times a week.

Down from five. I hope everyone else is is too and i hope it's helping but other than that we

love you guys love you thank you for supporting this show being here being on patreon buying

merch i'm wearing a little preview but other than he. But other than that, until next time.

Until next time.

Bye, guys.

Bye.

Bye. Thank you.