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Thank you, everybody. Thank you so much.
We really do have a great show for you today. Later on, we're going to be talking to Amanda Seyfried, who used to be known for starring in things like Mamma Mia and the TV show The Dropout and Mean Girls.
But after an appearance on The Tonight Show last week, she is now world famous for doing Joni Mitchell covers on the dulcimer. So maybe instead of questions, we'll just have her do the whole blue album.
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Let's welcome our first listener contestant. Hi, you're on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
Hi, Peter. This is Cameron from Bath, Maine.
Cameron in Bath, Maine. How are things in Bath? Pretty cold, pretty windy.
It's the city of ships, not great sailing weather. No, no.
Are you a sailor? No, but I have two retired parents who just bought a pontoon boat, so I'll get back to you in a couple months. Wow.
What does one do with a pontoon boat? I've never known. You put their parents on it and you push it.

Bye, Mom.

Bye, Dad.

They're back a day later.

Good luck.

Well, Cameron, welcome to the show.

Let me introduce you to our panel this week.

First up, the comedian whose album Party Nights is available now on Spotify, Apple, and other streaming services.

It's Emmy Blotnick. Hi, Karen.
Next, it's the actor and writer you can see in the show Two Square at the Oklahoma City Improv, Saturday, March 15th, and at Comedy Sports Philadelphia on April 5th. It's Peter Gross.
Hello. Hi there.
And finally, making her debut on our panel, we are thrilled to be joined by the comedian whose third comedy special, Crushing It, is streaming on Netflix.

She's about to kick off her national Taken Care of Biscuits tour this month. Please say hello to Fortune Feimster.

Hi. So, Cameron, welcome to the show.
You're going to play Who's Bill this time. Bill Curtis is going to read you three quotations from this week's news.
Of course, your job is to correctly identify or explain just two of them. Do that.
You will win our prize. The voice from anyone on our show you might choose for your voicemail.
You ready to go? I'm ready. All right, let's do it, Cameron.
Here is your first quote. Is it finally time to freak out? That was a soon-to-be retiree quoted in Market Watch, worried about the rapid decline of what? Would that be the United States of America? I knew it.
I knew we laid ourselves a trap as soon as I read that aloud. We're looking for something specific that was definitely on a significant downward trend this week.

Oh, the stock market.

The stock market.

Yes, the stock market.

Things are so bad with everybody's retirement accounts that, and this is true,

one prominent brokerage site now has a pop-up when you log in, warning you just not to look. They really do? They really do.
That's right. Things are so bad, ladies and gentlemen.
Your 401k has a bouncer. It should just be like a picture of a dog with like a little hat dancing back and forth and you just look at it for a minute and then you go, eh, whatever.
I'm not going to check my balance.

Or like messages like,

you know what's really important?

Family.

You know?

This is really hard for people

who don't know when the stock market is good.

Also.

You're just completely oblivious.

Sometimes you look and you're like,

this, it's sure moving,

this line on the grass.

Yeah.

Today it's green.

Tomorrow it's red.

It's so Christmassy. Yes.
It looks like it has a heartbeat. Fortune, are you concerned at all about this? Do you like have stocks or money? No, I love losing money.
Yeah? Yeah, I got an email from my Raymond James guy who's here in Chicago. Really? Yeah, he asked if I wanted a hug and I said yes.

Now we might we might be on the verge of another Great Depression, right?

But according to this American Girl book I've been reading, it is going to be awesome.

No, the Depression was great. You can live in a boxcar, travel for free.

Every windowsill will have a pie cooling. I couldn't afford American girls before this.
And best of all, those of us who will survive it will get to be insufferable to everyone else for the rest of our lives. Oh yeah, back in the Great Depression of 25, me and my four siblings all had to share one vape pen.
We had to share one Netflix account. It was horrible.
Our tokens were non-fungible back then. Cameron, here is your next quote.
Focus on a nature scene with a sunset. That was something that computer programmers came up with to help relieve the anxiety that what has been feeling? AI? Exactly.
AI, a new study has found that AI can get anxious and depressed, right? It can worry. That's trouble for those who use chat GPT for its main use, cheating on their homework.
Now it's the one saying, oh man, oh man, we're going to get caught. To write 500 words about Watership Down, and it's like, what's the point? Exactly.
That sad book where the rabbits get killed? We have nothing to live for. I live in a hole.
But why are they, why is it really like, is it because we're so anxious that it is aping us and being anxious? Pretty much. Because if you remember, these things work entirely by absorbing all this information and how humans have reacted to this information.
So you heard the quote from Bill. Because it was being made anxious by the prompts that make humans anxious, they thought giving it mindful and meditation exercises would help, and it did.
Oh, so they're like listening to calm. Yeah, exactly.
But I don't know how this can be. I would think a computer would freak out even more if you asked it to take deep, calming breaths and it realizes it doesn't have lungs.
I feel like we can just stop AI now, right? Like if we are inventing something that is mechanical and is like separate from us, but it is acting like us and achieving our worst parts of ourselves, I think this is a time to step back and be like, that was probably too much. Just wait until it gets angry.
Yeah. Right now it's just sad, but there are other stages of grief.
That's true. Is vengeance one of the stages? I hope not.
All right, Cameron, your last quote is from the host of a brand new radio show on Apple Music as he introduces the next song. Kylie McNeug came to the palace to perform the locomotion, And it is music for dancing.

So who is a new side gig as a radio DJ?

Would that be the King of England?

Yes, King Charles III himself.

Of course.

The King's got his groove back.

This week, Apple Music debuted King Charles' new radio show,

The King's Music Room. And I got to tell you, it's actually really good.
I'm not kidding. He plays Bob Marley, Beyonce.
He plays world music. Here, this is just a bit of it.
The song is the locomotion. It has that infectious energy, which makes it, I find, incredibly hard to sit still.
It is fun. Plus, it is going to be so much easier to get knighted now.
All you have to do is be the hundredth caller. Can it be a video thing and he has to dance after he plays songs No, actually they of course because it's 2025 They also videotape it and put That online and it's great because yes, I will confirm He does the whole show wearing The complete royal regalia Right, so at one point When he gets really excited he starts twerking with the orb After this we, we've got traffic on the wires.

And the Powerball numbers.

We're going now to Reginald Pips in the Sky.

Reggie, what's going on in central London?

That's really funny.

No, it's great.

He is, I mean, I...

Not what I said, just in general.

I don't know.

It's an absolute clusterf*** around the palace.

Bumper to bumper

carriages.

Bill, how did Cameron do in our quiz?

Cameron from Both, Maine

did very well. 3-0.

Congratulations.

Good job, Cameron.

Thank you, everybody. Right now, panel, it is time for you to answer some questions about this week's news.
Fortune, a new study finds that you can boost your brain's performance simply by chewing what? Gum. No, if that worked, my mother would have been a genius.
On thoughts. Chew on thoughts? Just chewing on that? Just thinking.
No, I'll give you a hint. Now that explains how the beaver I saw got today's wordle in two.
Wood. Yes, wood.
Chewing wood can make you smarter. Research finds that chewing on a piece of wood significantly increases brain activity, especially in the part of the brain that asks, why am I doing this? How do they figure this out? Like, what's the study that's like, here, chew on this gum, now do this puzzle.
Chew on this

stick, now do the, oh, the stick guy

did pretty good. Yeah.

The hypothesis

is that chewing on something hard, like

wood, increases blood flow to your

head, which in many people

is where the brain is located.

Wouldn't this just be a toothpick?

No, it has to be harder. It has to be something that really takes

effort. Like a floorboard? Yeah,

exactly. So you can't be just

like a whimsical guy, like,

sitting on a porch, like, whittling and chewing on a

toothpick. No, no, no.
No, you've got to be at the

Home Depot with a knife and fork.

Yeah.

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Hi, this is Terry Evans, and I'm from Hewitt, Texas. Oh, wow.
Which is just outside of Waco. Oh, that's great.
And what do you do there? Well, I live with my librarian husband for 32 years, I guess.

And we have two kids.

And shout out Michaela and Chandler.

And I work for Baylor Student Media. You said that your husband was a librarian with some pride.

Because he's really smart.

And he's now been elected president of the Music Library Association.

Oh, that's very exciting.

Wow.

Yeah, I'm proud of him.

So when somebody asks him for, like, music, he'll say,

I'll dial that up on Spotify for you.

You betcha.

Yeah.

Well, welcome to the show, Terry.

You're going to play the game in which you have to tell truth from fiction.

Bill, what's Terry's topic? Behind the music. Speaking of music, getting into the music business isn't easy.
People will do anything to get a leg up, a foot in the door, a toenail in the window. Our panel is going to tell you about a surprising new tactic someone might be able to use to get ahead in the music biz.
Pick the one who's telling the truth and you'll win the wait waiter of your choice in your voicemail. You ready to play? Yes, sir.
All right. Let's hear first from Peter Gross.
Typically, when you put out a want ad, you explain the job, list the responsibilities, and state the salary. But if you're KISS bassist Gene Simmons, you tell someone how much they are going to have to pay you for the privilege of working with you.
Simmons is going out on a solo tour this month, and he put out a call for help explaining that he's looking for one person in each city to join his road crew for the day for the low, low price of $12,495. Now, before you scoff, there are some great perks.
You get to meet Gene, and for free, they will throw in being laughed at and called a rich idiot by the real crew members. But you'll be the one laughing when you get to sit down and have a special one-on-one meal with a man accused multiple times of sexual harassment, who once released a solo record called and who told an interviewer in 2022, I don't have friends.
The going rate to be an assistant to Gene Simmons of Kiss is $12,500, which you pay him. Your next music business breakthrough comes from Emmy Blotnick.
The chaos began with an innocent request from Virgin Airlines corporate office. They were seeking to refresh their in-flight safety video with a catchy new song, and for the first time ever, they were open to submissions from anyone, anywhere.
One aspiring musician from Bangor, Maine, believed this was his golden opportunity to break into the music business. The multi-instrumentalist Robert McMagnus, who records under the alias McMadness, went to work producing as many demos as he could.
He composed 24 original in-flight safety songs in just 24 hours, with titles such as Seatbelt Low and Tight Tonight, Fasten Like an Assassin, and Talking Tough About Stowing Stuff. Just to be safe, McMadness uploaded each track 300 times from 17 different email accounts.
The tonnage of these files crashed the server so quickly, no one else was able to submit. A spokesman from Virgin Airlines offered their apologies that the song contest ended prematurely.
He added, while none of Mr. McMadness's songs were family-friendly enough for in-flight usage, they were so impressed with his output that they've begun contract talks with him anyway.
A man goes all out to make sure that his is the safety song played on an airline. Your last musical moment comes from Fortune Feimster.
Legendary background singer Barry Cooter has sung vocals on some of the most iconic country albums to come out of Music Row.

And he did this without a single connection to the music business. Not an agent, not a manager, nothing but his biscuits.

Years ago, he snuck into a studio by posing as a delivery man for a made-up bakery, Barry's Biscuits.

He first tried to get in under the name Cooter Cakes, but that didn't even get him past the front door. It was the amazing smell of these biscuits that allowed him to skate right past security and then the secretary and straight into the recording studio.
And who happened to be in there laying down a track? None other than the Elvis Presley, who we all know loved him some biscuits. His whole team started devouring these treats, leaving Cooter the opportunity to step up to the mic and show off his vocals.
For decades, Cooter had quite the career, that is, until singers started cutting carbs. All right.
So, let's say you had aspirations to get into the music business. You might do one of these things.
Is it from Peter Gross, go work for a day as an assistant to Gene Simmons simply by paying him more than $12,000 for the privilege. From Emmy, absolutely go all out to break into the music business via that common first step, an airline safety video.
Or from Fortune, does bake biscuits so good they cannot keep you out of the music studio? Which of these is a real tactic used to get into the music business? I would not put it past Gene Simmons to charge somebody to work for him. The audience apparently has the same opinion of Gene Simmons as all right-thinking people do.
Well, we spoke to a music journalist who told us about the real story. You'd have to have $12,000 of disposable income and then a huge Gene Simmons fan.

Yes, that was Ilana Kaplan,

a music editor for People Magazine,

telling us the two conditions that you'd have to have

in order to take advantage of this remarkable opportunity

of spending a day with Gene Simmons.

Congratulations, Terry, you got it right.

You're in a point for Peter.

You just told the truth.

Good job, Terry.

And you've won our prize, the voice of your choice in your voicemail. Congratulations and well done.
Thank you. And now the game where we ask famous people to answer questions about something they know

nothing about. We call it Not My Job.
Amanda Seyfried is an Emmy-winning actor who starred

in, among other things, three of the most profitable movie musicals ever made. But

she has said that despite her many successes, all she has ever wanted to do was play a cop on TV,

a dream that has finally come true on her new show, Long Bright River on Peacock. Amanda Seyfried, welcome to Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.
So let's start there. We heard that was true, that you've always, through your remarkable career, starting with soap operas and then Mean Girls and through the Mamma Mia movies, everything you've done, that you've always had this secret desire to play a cop.
Is that right? Yeah, it just seemed so far-fetched. I was like, that would be fun.
That would be fun. Were you influenced by like watching cops on TV when you were growing up? Were you like a law and order SVU girl? I had this weird obsession with the first 48.
I would watch like two episodes before bed every night. I think that's probably why I was so anxious in my early 20s.
But, yeah, sure. I mean, I just think it's cool, and I never wanted to play detective.
Don't get me wrong, they're cool, but they're everywhere. Beat cops is where it's at.
Yeah, really? And I just feel so slight that, like, no one would believe me with that kind of authority. So I just wanted to prove myself and everybody else wrong.
Wow. So your model for the cop you wanted to be was not like say Kojak, but like the little bunny in Zootopia.
That's exactly who I modeled my haircut. Wow.
Yeah. I can see that.
Um, yeah. In preparation for this role, you did something I am told again that I know a lot of actors do, which you did a ride-along with Real Philadelphia Police.
Is that true? Yeah. I had no business being there, but I went and it was something.
Yeah. I have always...
I know that many actors who are dedicated to doing a good job do that experience. They go for a ride along or spend time with police.

And I've always wondered what that's like.

I mean,

you're sitting there,

you're driving down the streets of Philadelphia and the cop in the front seat

turns to you and goes,

uh,

so mama me,

I heard that was a really fun set.

Was it?

I mean,

pretty much.

Yeah.

There's like a give and take.

And I,

I don't,

I,

I,

I don't want to be greedy,

but I'm also like,

I want to see what's next.

Like, yeah, let's go to the Wawa.

Let's break up the fight.

They let me choose which place we were going to go next.

Did they really?

Well, there's a wellness check.

You want to do that?

And I'm like, that could be anything.

We should go.

And it turned out to be a dead person.

So the wellness was pretty low. Yeah, not a lot of wellness there.
I can't wait to do it again, actually. Sure.
It occurs to me, though, I mean, well, the cops have you, that you could come in handy. Like, if a gunfight got for a bit to break out, they could shout, put down your weapons.
Amanda Seyfried is here. There's like a third Mamma Mia movie on the line.
And if that ever happened, listen, I'm for it. I'll do anything to save a life.
Right. Quote me on that.
All right. Speaking of Mamma Mia, we have read, this might be urban legend, it might be true, we have read that when you were making that movie and its sequel and these beautiful places, that the entire cast was drunk the entire time.
Yeah. I mean, not the entire time.
Not the entire time. I don't see it.
I'm so sorry. What is it like a short day? Yeah.
Yeah. No, it really was debauchery.
Yeah. It looked like, I mean, it seemed like part of the appeal of the movie was just imagining being able to make it with you guys because, boy, it looked like fun.
It really was. Actually, those images that came out a while back of us in our most drunken state at some party where we did karaoke in Skopalos, it just looks like the most fun anyone could ever have.
Especially because Meryl Streep is at the center of every photo. And I wish I could say, oh, it wasn't that fun.
But my grandmother got drunk that night. And it was a memory that I will never...
I just, I hold it so close. And I really look forward to a third.
So just so we could keep getting drunk together. Right.
So you won an Emmy for playing Elizabeth Holmes in the dropout, the story of her and Theranos, and perhaps the single most iconic moment in the show is when you, as Elizabeth, kind of dances into your boyfriend's office to Lil Wayne to either seduce him or cheer him up or both, and it is somehow the most awkward thing I have ever seen. And my question is, how does someone who knows how to dance, dance badly? I'm going to be honest.
I'm not a good dancer. I really am not.
Peter, she thought that was really good. Really? Oh God.
That was like the best dancing she could do. I don't know.
I was wearing a, who can dance well or take themselves seriously when they're wearing that puffy vest? Yeah. It is hard to dance in puffy vests.
Right? It's like a Silicon Valley mating ritual. When that really happened, presumably it did, Lil Wayne felt a horrible twinge somewhere.
He just knew something was wrong. He was more uncomfortable than you were.
And as far as I know, I tried to find this out. You have never met Elizabeth Holmes, and she has never reached out to meet you.
Is that right? Correct. Yeah.
Yeah, there was like a trial or whatever. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. You know, the legal thing.
Legal things that separated us from having our fateful love fest. I don't know what I probably would have been like, well, she's pretty cool actually.
I'm so easily influenced, but yeah, so it was better that I didn't because then I wouldn't have been able to make fun of her too. Because part of the show is getting on the inside and trying to breed some kind of compassion and show a three-dimensional person.
But the other part of it is making fun of her. Like with the scene.

That was, you did both exceptionally well. Well, Amanda Seyfried, this is a joy to talk to you,

and we have asked you here to play a game we're calling Mean Girl Meet Nice Guys.

So you began your career by starring in the classic movie comedy Mean Girls. So in honor of that, we found three questions about some guys who were actually really, really nice.
Answer just two of them correctly. You'll win our prize for one of our listeners.
Bill, who is Amanda Seyfried playing for? Michelle Mussara of Cleveland, Ohio. All right.
You seem a little... I hope you were warned that this would be happening.
Get some wine, girl. Right.
Yeah. All right.
Yeah. All right.
Here we go. Here's your first question.
Mr. Rogers was possibly the nicest person of all time.
After Mr. Rogers filed a police report that his car had been stolen, what happened two days later? A, PBS pledged money to him to buy him a new car.
B, neighbors complained about all the people clogging up their street hoping to give him a ride somewhere. Or C, the thieves returned the car with a note that said, if we'd known it was yours, we never would have taken it.
C. Yes, that's what happened.
Yeah. He's that nice.
He was that nice. He was so nice, he could turn other people into nice guys through osmosis.
He was amazing. All right, that's very well done.
Here's your next question. During World War II, Canada famously treated their POWs so well that some of them didn't want to go back to Germany when the

war was over. According to one captured German corporal, that great treatment at the POW camp

included which of these? A, the government brought in a famous chef to make authentic schnitzel for

them. B, the guards would regularly lend the prisoners their rifles so they could go hunting.

Or C, upon request, Canada would fly in a soldier's wife and kids so they could all be POWs together? Nah, that's A. I'm afraid it was actually B.
They gave them rifles to go hunting. Oh, I thought that was a good, boring one.
Really? I was like, can't be B. No.
That was their version of a trust fall. They really were.
They hand them a rifle, close their eyes, turn around. All right.
Anyway, here's your last question. Sometimes it's hard to tell whether or not someone is nice, like the man who helped out a woman in Wales one day by hanging up her laundry to dry, washing her floor, putting her groceries away and taking out the recycling.
But there was one catch. What was it? A, he had broken in her house to do these things while she was away at work.
B, the whole time he was working, he told her how bad her clothing and food choices were. Or C, after he finished, he told her, now you have to come do my house.
What do you guys think? Yeah, I mean, A seems like the obvious choice. No, I'm not going to overthink it.
A. Yes, you're right, Amanda.
Thank you. Thank you.
Yeah. He broke into her house, and he did all those things for her, and then she came home and found him doing them.
Now they're married. She likes a bad boy.
Yeah. Bill, how did Amanda Seifert do in our quiz? Mamma mia! Two out of three is a win, Amanda.
Congratulations! Well done. I had some help.
You did. You had some help from this fabulous audience.
Amanda Seyfried is an Emmy-winning actor who you can see right now in Long, Bright River. All episodes are streaming on Peacock now.
Go watch it. Amanda, thank you so much for being with us.
What a pleasure to talk to you and see you. Thanks, guys.
Hey, have fun with you guys. We will.
Bye. In just a minute, Bill has the perfect treat for people with peanut allergies in our listener limerick challenge.
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Right now, panel, some more questions for you from the week's news. Peter, bad news in nutrition.
This week we found out what popular treat contains potentially dangerous levels of heavy metals and pesticide residues. Popular treats.
Especially this time of year is when they tend to show up. In the spring? Yeah.
Ramps! Everyone's eating ramps in the spring? No, I'm sorry. It's not when they grow, it's when they are sold.
Oh, peeps! No. I'll give you a hint.
They could just embrace this and say thin mints, now with even more copper. Girl Scout cookies? Girl Scout cookies.
A new lawsuit alleges those cookies sold by the Girl Scouts include, quote, dangerous metals and pesticides. I don't care.
I'm still going to eat them. I just love the Samoas, which have the chocolate coating and the lead filling.
This is why you've got to freeze them. That's not going to get rid of the stuff that's inside.
It doesn't make you go away? No, sadly. All right, whatever.
No, but it's colder. It's cold.
Frozen iron is good. Yeah, exactly.
Peter, officials in Brazil, sadly, are cutting down part of the Amazon rainforest to make way for what?

Something Brazilian, like a thong factory?

No, something... That's nice.

You got to make them somewhere.

That's true.

You might as well save money on shipping.

Yeah. I'll give you a hint.

Greta Thunberg is going to be so mad when she shows up for this one.

Oh.

Like an environmental summit? Yes, a climate summit. Oh, God.
Wow. A new four-lane highway cutting through thousands of acres of protected Amazon rainforest is being built for this year's climate summit in Brazil.
And before you start complaining, the road will have a bike lane. So they decided to hold this year's COP30 Climate Summit in the remote Amazonian city of Belem, presumably to show what might be lost if we don't fix things.
And somebody said, hey, you know what would really show them how bad it could get? The new road is called Avenue Liberdade, which is Portuguese for whoops. And you have to get there in cars that are powered by styrofoam.
Exactly right. Well, the road to hell is paved with good intentions.
That's true. And that's, in fact, interestingly enough, one end of the road is in hell.
Fortune dog owners pride themselves on knowing exactly what their dogs are feeling at any time. But a new study proves that what? Dogs are so dumb.
That may well be the case. But actually, the discovery was about the people, not the dogs.
Oh, okay. That their owners are dumb I'm going to give it to you because the answer is, it turns out that owners have no idea what their dogs are thinking or feeling at any given moment.
We just don't. Sweet.
A new study shows people actually have no idea what their dogs are feeling. As far as you know, that tail is wagging to express profound disappointment in you.

Oh no, that would be terrible. I know, but in the study, this is what they did.
They showed people videos of dogs reacting to something and the people could only accurately ascertain what the dogs were feeling if they could also see what they were reacting to. If that was taken away, their guesses were no better than just like random.
Oh, you think this bowl of treats made your dog happy.

Oh, wow.

You're like a dog whisperer.

I think this study is projecting.

Really?

You think?

Yeah.

I think I know my dog's feelings.

You do?

Yeah.

He tells me them.

How does he tell you?

Little licks and kisses.

All his feelings are, I want to lick your face.

Yeah.

Yes.

He just feels that all the time. He feels what's in your mouth.

Yes.

In case there's any food in there. Because that's the thing.

This is not hard.

Dogs have three emotions.

Three. One.
I'm eating.

Two. Is that

something I can eat?

Three. Oh, it isn't.

I have those.

That's my only feelings.

Exactly, yeah.

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Hi, you're on Wait, Wait, Don't Tell Me.

Hey, this is Cody in Madison, Wisconsin.

Hey, beautiful Madison.

I love it there.

What do you do there?

I'm a researcher for the U.S. Forest Service here in Madison.
I love it there. What do you do there? I'm a researcher for

the U.S. Forest Service here in Madison.

I'm glad you're still on the job.

Me too. I assume you're

the last one left.

That's right. That's right.
Just me

holding up the fort. Exactly.
And when they let you do your

job, what is it exactly?

So we research wood.

We make safe, dependable products

for houses, buildings, packaging, all those good things. And people eat them.
Yeah. I was about to say, in all your research on wood, have you ever come across any scientific findings indicating that chewing on wood makes you smarter? Not yet, but then maybe that'll be my next project.
Right. Well, if things get dicey in the next few minutes, just grab a wooden spoon.
Here we go. Cody, welcome to the show.
Bill Curtis is going to read you three news-related limericks with a last word or phrase missing from each. If you can fill in that last word or phrase correctly in two of the limericks, you will be a winner.
Here is your first limerick. My new ride is sealed tight as a jar.
I've got keys, but I can't get too far. New tech is a scandal.
I can't budge the handle. I cannot get into my...
Car. Car, right.
Drivers everywhere are fed up with how complicated the door handles are these days. Gone are the days of the simple just like grab it and pull.
Now you, if you want to get into the car, you need to push like a concealed button. Or if you have a Tesla, whisper five things you did for Elon Musk.
I can't remember the last time I saw an actual key for a car. No, no.
Yeah, they're gone. My new car, if you walk up to it, it knows you're coming and opens up its handles for you.
It says, oh, I'm unlocked. And the funny thing is that it has a timer.
And if you don't grab a handle, it locks it. So if you're me, and you're not particularly quick and sensitive to potential insults, it feels like, oh, Peter, welcome.
Psych. All right.
Here's your next limerick. At our club, we make sure that this show rocks.
We band faces that register no shocks. Once you wrinkle and crack, we'll invite you all back.
But don't come if your face has had... Oh, geez.
Botox? Botox, yes! Good man. A comedy club in the United Kingdom says that the stand-ups who perform there are tired of playing to Botoxed people and their, quote, frozen faces.

Because it's impossible to tell or not whether their jokes are landing.

They come backstage saying, I did all my best material, but the front row just looked constantly surprised.

It sounds like maybe these aren't the best stand-ups in the world. I didn't know Botox kept your mouth from making noises.
Yeah, exactly. I can imagine that.
I mean, I've never tried it, but I know it paralyzes your facial muscles, so I imagine even if you do laugh, it doesn't sound great. Ha, ha, ha, ha.
We're like, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha. Help me.
Yeah. I turn away anybody who's had, if they've got big rocking jugs, they're not allowed on my show.
I don't know. I don't make the rules.
All right. Here's your last limerick.
In big boxes, they pick up the slack. They're called peanuts and help people pack.
Dissolved, they look spreadable, yet they're not edible. Stop munching them like they're a snack.
Exactly right. Experts are worried about a new TikTok trend, yet another one, where people are eating those biodegradable packing peanuts, arguing that they're edible because they dissolve in your mouth.
Okay, a rule of thumb, if you have to argue that something is edible, you have already lost the argument. But are they healthier than Girl Scout cookies? That's the question.
At this point, play it on the safe side, eat the packing peanuts. This makes a lot of sense, though.
I mean, I think at this point we're all like,

enough with ingesting microplastics.

I want macroplastics.

Bill, how did Cody do in our quiz?

Cody, Cody, Cody got a perfect score.

Well done, Cody.

Nice.

Hey, thank you.

Must be all that wood you work with.

Congratulations, and keep up the good work.

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Learn more at ucsd.edu slash research. Now onto our final game, Lightning Fill-in-the-Blank.
Each of our players will have 60 seconds in which to answer as many fill-in-the-blank questions as they can. Each correct answer is worth two points.
Bill, can you give us the scores? Emmy has three. Fortune and Peter each have four.
Okay. All right, emmy you are in second place so you will begin fill in the blank on thursday president trump withdrew his nominee for the director of the blank uh is it the center for disease control yes it is the cdc on sunday mark carney was sworn in as the new minister of blank.
Canada. Right.
This week, a judge in New York blocked White House efforts to deport legal resident Mahmoud Khalil over his participation in protests against blank. The war in the Middle East.
Yeah, war in Gaza. After the International Criminal Court issued a warrant for his arrest, former Philippine president blank was taken into custody there.
Rodrigo Duterte. Very good.
Yes. This week in Australia, one of the highest concentrations of dinosaur footprints ever recorded in a single fossil was discovered in a blank.
A nightclub. No.
In a high school where the slab had been sitting there for 20 years without anyone noticing all the dinosaur footprints. This week, RFK Jr.
said that vaccinating against blank flu could have unexpected side effects. Bird flu? Yes.
On Tuesday, Fashion Week in blank came to a close. Paris? Yes.
This week, a man in Florida was arrested for stealing a pair of diamond earrings worth $700,000, but police had to wait a while before gathering the evidence because blank. He ate them.
Yes, he did, and he.

Wow.

Nice job.

Very well done.

The salesperson should have known that something was up when the man said,

whoa, these diamond earrings are so beautiful.

Do they come with any kind of dipping sauce?

Bill, I think Amy did very well.

Very well.

Seven right, 14 more points.

Whoa.

Total of 17, hard to beat. All right.
Read it and weep, winners. Yeah, I don't watch the news enough for this.
Okay. Well, you know, it's okay.
But are you ready to try this? We're going to go next, all right? Here we go, Fortune. Fill in the blank.
On Wednesday, Russia rejected a U.S.-brokered cease-file deal with blank. Ukraine.
Right. On Tuesday, the House passed a temporary spending bill aimed at averting a blank.
Shutdown. Right.
As part of his ongoing trade war, President Trump imposed a 25% blank on steel and aluminum imports. Tariff.
Right. On Thursday, it was announced that the return of the astronauts stuck on the blank would again be delayed.
The moon. No, the International Space Station.
This week... Do we not go back? Not yet.
Not yet. This week, the band Tool was booed off stage at a music festival organized by blank.
King Charles. No, by the band.
Good guess, though. By the band Tool.
Following multiple crashes, sales of tickets for blanks have dropped considerably. Airplanes.
Right. On Thursday, it was confirmed that comedian Nikki Glaser would return to host the 2026 Blank Awards.
Golden Globes. Right.
This week, a newlywed couple in the Maldives are closer than ever after they shared a blank on their honeymoon. Bed.
No, they shared a single life jacket after their ferry boat sank. Aw.
After the ferry carrying 50 people sank, the newlyweds shared a single life jacket

until help finally arrived and they were rescued.

Somewhere, Jack from Titanic is like,

oh, come on, what the hell?

There was room on that door.

She had a life jacket on.

Bill, how did Fortune do her first time on this quiz?

Fortune's a player.

Five right, 10 more points. 14 is her total total, but she trails Emmy.
Oh, man. Good job.
Whoa. How many of them does Peter need to overtake Emmy and win the game? Peter needs seven to win.
All right, Peter, this is for the game. Fill in the blank.
On Wednesday, the Trump administration announced massive layoffs at the Department of Blank. Education.
Right. On Tuesday, officials in New Mexico and Oklahoma confirmed cases of blank linked to the outbreak in Texas.
Oh, measles. Right.
This week, the EPA was directed to roll back a Biden-era rule mandating less pollution from blanks. Carbon monoxide, right? Less pollution from what? From cars.
Oh, from cars, yeah. And just about everything.
Saying that the paper's freedoms have dangerously eroded in the past year, an editor of the blank resigned on Monday. Washington Post.
Right. This week, an Arizona dentist used household pliers on a patient told the disciplinary board, blank.
They asked for it. No, he said, quote, it was a bad choice.
I will acknowledge that. Tuesday marked the five-year anniversary of the WHO declaring blank a pandemic.
COVID. Right.
This week, after a mom in Wisconsin ate Summer for four-year-old's ice cream, the boy responded by blanking. Throwing up in her face.
No, by calling the cops on her. After catching his mom eating ice cream, the young boy called 911 and told the dispatcher, come and get my mommy.
She needs to go to jail. It was really kind of sweet.
So the police, you know, they heard the call. They stopped.
They got some ice cream. They brought the toddler the new ice cream and they arrested the mom after planting a bag of drugs on her.
Bill, did Peter Gross do well enough to win? Well, he got five right, ten more points. Fourteen, which is a tie with fortune.
But Emmy is our winner. Yeah.
Emmy. Well done.
Watch me now. Coming up, our panelists predict after his new radio show what will be the next surprising new job for King Charles of the United Kingdom.
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