Netherlands w/ Emma Willmann | You Be Trippin' with Ari Shaffir

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Today, my guest is Emma Willman, one one of the first comics I saw in New York when I was here that I realized how fucking great everybody was here.

I appreciate that.

Thank you for having me, you and all the kids.

Yeah, yeah.

You were doing a,

I never saw in LA, a casual

mention of being a lesbo.

A casual, yeah.

Like it was just so matter of fact that instead of like focusing on it.

I think about that a lot in terms of like how to like bring it up in a way to make it like

address it so I'm not so in case just to like you know get it out of people's heads but then not make it be a whole thing yeah it was so it was such a glance over yeah that's exactly what I'm trying to do I feel seen thank you girlfriend dropped me off and she fucking pulled out of the curb and it was barely about that it was as if it was the same as boyfriend keep it moving yeah yes it's like this doesn't matter I've been I've really like tried I've tried to do that but I notice sometimes if I don't do it at all then sometimes it can feel I'll feel like a tension but I could be wrong it might be in my head I don't know At most, they're going to think you're a boy.

It could.

It could be.

That's the worst case scenario.

It could be.

Which is fine.

I'd be a pretty boy.

I'd probably be a prettier boy than I would be a pretty girl.

Say a better.

You're a pretty girl, too.

Thanks.

Sorry.

I appreciate that.

Yeah.

And we're going to, what are we doing today?

Amsterdam.

Not Amsterdam.

Not Amsterdam.

Netherlands.

You got to tell me about this.

What's this story?

I did go to Amsterdam, too.

First?

I went to Amsterdam towards the end.

So this is the whole layout for this was

it was my sophomore year in college and I really wanted to do a study abroad, but I didn't do the research or apply anywhere.

Yeah, it sounds like way.

So then kind of, I saw like a pamphlet for this program in Jamaica that was studying Rastafari and culture.

You know, the like the voodoo dolls?

Yeah.

So I thought that seemed interesting, but I did, besides saying, hey, this seems interesting, I didn't put a lot of research into it.

That seems extremely interesting.

I thought it seemed really interesting.

You would have studied it for a year or semester?

Semester.

Studying voodoo?

Yep.

no a summer it would have been a summer that seems awesome i know my life could have gone in so many different directions you ever think about what you were when you were a kid with the fucking possibilities you could just do constantly oh

you could just go to jamaica for a summer on someone else's dime and just like study things interesting things right after i graduated college i was gonna go work on a farm in hawaii And I didn't do it because I had done like four open mics and I was like, if I stop doing these open mics now, I don't know if I can keep this momentum going.

And I'd done four i could have gone a wife for five years and none of it would have mattered at all you might not have become a comic

but who cares who cares i could have been living out there i told whitney she's got to get lost and travel and she's like well i'm about to start a podcast this was like years ago right a few years ago and i was like yeah so you haven't started it perfect yeah and then give yourself that time

because it just gets harder and harder to just go away and do it yeah but i was gonna go away do the thing in jamaica and i had some friend or or someone that like knew about it, and they were like, have you really thought this out?

Oh, and they said that they, you might not be wanted there.

And I forget the context of it, but I took it to heart because I didn't know if it was like a white thing or a gay thing.

So that's what you said there, that you heard there?

They said, you might not be wanted there.

They said, do you think they really, oh, you know what it was?

What?

It was my girlfriend at the time.

She was like, she was like, you know, they might, they probably don't want like some white people coming in and like studying their voodoo.

But the more they have a program, right?

I didn't know at the time, I was at the time and at that point, anytime there was like a racial conversation, I would like shy away from it.

Like, I was like, I don't know what I'm fucking doing.

Yeah, that is a problem with these.

Which is, like, I didn't have the self-respect or respect her enough for me to be like, oh, well, let's look into it more.

So I back out of that.

Now it's really last minute to find a program.

And I applied to this one where you went and did trail clearing in Odemirdham, Holland, the Netherlands.

What's the difference between Holland, the Netherlands?

I think it's the same thing.

Really?

Okay.

I gotta see this on a map.

I love seeing them on maps.

It was called O de Mirdem, which is where it was, which was a couple hours outside of Amsterdam.

But it was,

you would go and you would clear trails

and how the fuck do you spell that?

Mir, M-E-R-D-I-U-M.

You would,

it was supposed to be like two people from

two people from the States, two people from like France.

Like, it was like lots of like international, not that.

No way is this.

Okay.

Was it one word?

I think it was three.

Press this through Holland.

Okay.

It was a couple hours outside of Amsterdam.

Wow.

But it was,

it was

so random how I found it.

I went and I remember my dad was really, really wonderful.

Where did you find it?

I don't know.

Fuck it.

I was just Googling like summer programs, open,

and then this popped up.

And it was, I remember it was three weeks, and I wanted something like that timeframe because I wanted to backpack around afterwards.

Okay.

And I wanted something where I was going to get to like kind of be in the countryside.

And I wanted to volunteer.

So looking back, like.

Have you ever done trail clearing?

No, that sounds great.

I agree.

I met a guy doing it once.

It was, it was

marking trails.

So you would do marking trails if you like knew, like we had some person that was doing that but they would just give us like machetes and then these these knives at the ends these really long sticks and we would like whap whap whap whap and get all the branch and shrubs that were on the trail it was so therapeutic one of those

exactly yeah

it was so fun you know maybe i was hanging out with the wrong people at the time because i remember someone being like you're paying to go do this and i did yeah that's like oh you're paying a strawberry pick that's what mexicans do for for money.

But, you know, yeah, it's a new experience.

It was a great, and it was so therapeutic because I also love things that, because I overthink, I'm so neurotic.

So for me, being like, the trail is shrubby, and now it's not.

That's so satisfying to me.

Like it felt, I just put on some music and clear the shrubs.

So I must have liked.

Found it.

Nice.

Yep.

Wow.

That's exactly what it looked like.

I found this trail clearing program, but I had no idea of

how do you you yeah, that was like what it was like.

Really?

No, not those trails.

The trails would be like in the woods, but that is exactly what it looked like.

Damn, that's gorgeous.

This is summertime?

Summertime.

Was it cold?

Come on, cow-ass cows like this?

I don't.

Yes, actually, we did.

We did.

It was so beautiful, but it was really remote because to get to it, you fly into Amsterdam, and then I took two trains and then two buses.

Okay.

And my dad was very worried because he was like, you've never gone internationally.

You've never traveled international before on your own.

Wow.

And I'm pretty, I was pretty disorganized.

So I didn't, he was like, are you going to be able to get here?

Because the farther out you go, they don't speak English.

But I was, because they speak.

And you look like...

What are they?

Dutch.

Dutch.

Oh, damn.

I think.

Yeah, I think that's right.

Yeah.

You look like you would blend right in.

You look like you're from there.

Definitely.

So they just came right at you with Dutch?

They, you know, no, people weren't really talking to me that much.

I probably looked pretty lost.

But, or if they were, I didn't know it.

I thought they were talking to somebody else.

But I got into Amsterdam and then I got to Holland.

And I remember like, I was like the last bus stop that brought me up to this farm.

And I remember the driver was like, you're getting out here.

Are you sure?

And I got out.

And this, it feels like it could have been the beginning of a horror movie.

Were you scared?

No, not at all.

Wow.

How old?

Whatever sophomore year of college is 20 ish i wasn't scared at all wow i wonder if i'd be scared now

i bet now you would especially have you ever seen wicker man never even heard of it seems like it's there i think it's northern northern england just wicker man chop people up into bits they did a nicholas cage well he might have been the original actually

they might have done another one it's just like a murder They just lure a cop up there to fuck with him.

Yeah, that's that's I hadn't seen it that many

Somar kind of thing.

Yeah, that, like, that gets into my, like, I, like,

saw, fucked me up, uh, Silence of the Lambs.

That's, I probably hadn't seen any of these movies yet.

It was a freer time.

Right.

Maybe sometimes when I'm just by myself, though, I feel like very, like, I'll feel like a piece.

Maybe this is not good.

But at the time, beautiful.

Dropped me off in this farm.

And they had two.

1,330 citizens.

Yeah.

Sorry.

Go ahead.

Wow.

That's nothing.

It's nothing.

I wonder how this town even connected with finding a program to get people to pay to come volunteer there.

Because it was like an exchange.

It wasn't an expense.

You didn't have to pay a crazy amount, but it was like you stayed on the farm, you ate.

Yeah, it seems like you would just stay on the farm and then it's like, oh, it's covered.

You're going to work off your, your

money here or your store.

Or you get like a stipend or something.

Yeah, you'll get some food, but you're going to work for it, like anybody here.

We paid.

Great.

But you know what?

Good for them if they could get people.

It's like, how do you do this?

Like, Americans are so wealthy.

Right.

Not only will come here to work for them.

They're so stupid.

They're going to pay us to do it.

Yeah, this is where Trump got the idea from.

They're going to come and

build it.

We're going to make them build it.

I got there and they had it.

It was like two Americans, two Germans, two people from France, and they would have us, everyone, we would like rotate meals.

So one meal would be like an American meal, French meal, whatever.

And then we would sleep in this little schoolhouse and then go trail clearing during the day and it was so it was beautiful who were you clearing trails for the government i didn't ask wow i know

wow there's got the word for there's a word for it and it's probably not a good one doofus idiot it's comic absolutely because i was yeah that's exactly what i was in that's so pretty so pretty i listened to um so was it just like rolling hills like it's a comic kind of like scotland it looks like gorgeous and were there those canals there too

And everything was really little.

Like

everything, like the cars were really little.

The houses were really little because they just have like a much more, like,

there was not, excess was not around in the same way.

Right.

The cars were just so much smaller.

And I remember getting used to it, too.

Wow.

Which

the boats, like, everything.

A little over nose.

Everything was just

small.

Wow.

And it was very...

The people were really friendly.

They didn't speak, most of them didn't speak English.

Most of the other people that were doing the program did.

There's probably like 10 of us.

And I had a disc man.

Oh, yeah.

And I had made like a mixtape.

And I had, I remember,

did you ever listen to the song by Nivea?

It was like a pop song where she goes, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

I don't remember any of it.

But you play that on loop?

Play that on loop.

And I'd be clearing the trails, listening to Nivea.

Oh, and then, do you remember,

if you don't give a damn, I don't give a fuck.

Do you remember that?

Yeah, who's that?

Presidents.

Oh, yeah.

Something like that.

So I listened to them, Nivea, and I cleared.

That's like the power of media is such a trip, too.

Did you see this building?

No, but it...

It was in two pictures.

It's weird looking.

What is it?

What is it?

What do you mean?

You don't know?

It's Luchtwachteren Ode Murdium.

Yeah,

Dutch is hard to.

It's so weird when they're talking it.

That's just in Amsterdam when you hear them talking.

It's like, what the fuck?

Right.

Wait, so

did you have money to spend on food?

I think I had, I think I like brought some money with me, but I think when you're there, like it was like all the meals were like, you would cook with the group.

And then I think we went out to dinner once, and then we had like a free day, and I rode my bike.

Freeze day.

We had a free day, and I rode my bike into some town, and it was like a small town, but I went in.

It was the first time I went into like a pot store, and I got a joint

out there, and there was no, no one was speaking English They weren't like translating like this is what this weed does and I just bought some random joint smoked it before I got home Which was a mistake because as I was bike riding I just remember getting so high

And riding the bike

so highly to high.

It was like what's going on It's like the first time your brain's like getting some your brain's not like a grizzled like vet of receiving chemicals at that point But I remember seeing the cows and I remember while I was riding my bike I remember seeing the cows and thinking they were like turning their heads and looking at me and I just was got so stoned.

They probably were.

I was probably they probably were looking at me.

I can't believe you weren't scared at all.

I know that it really is weird.

You know what it might be?

I grew up in such a small town in Maine.

Then I was in Boston for two years.

Then I was in so maybe it was like you should be, but you know what I mean?

It's like that you would be.

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This is getting weird.

Ban it.

It's, I'm out in the, because also, if I had just disappeared, no one would, if I had gotten taken, no one would have known.

Yeah.

For two weeks, that's a big head start.

Yeah, that's the thing they always say, like, what if something happens to you?

I'm like, then it'll have happened.

Then it, what do you think?

A murder is going to, your ability to contact me is going to go back in time and stop making the murder not happen?

You're not going to tell your mom on it.

Someone will find out in a day.

Right.

True.

It's nutty.

Whenever I go, I'm like, what if something happens?

Like, what do you mean?

they say, what if there's an emergency?

Like, what emergency?

You mean, like, what if something happened to mom or dad?

Right.

And barring a transplant where I'm the only one with the blood type they need.

Which, even then, it's like, it's maybe better to be out of town because you don't be in that position to actually have to give all your blood.

My liver.

Kidney.

My liver.

Yeah.

But barring that, it's like, you're talking about, I got to mourn, but it's like, I'll do it when I get back.

Right.

That's a good, that's a very free way to live.

Because the other way is being operating, operating on fear where you're not doing things.

Because, what if worst case scenario?

What if worst case scenario?

Well, then don't send your daughter to college.

Right.

I mean, obviously, don't send your daughter to college.

Because if you do the what-if game, it's like, well, what if she just stays in your room the whole time and is a fucking weirdo?

That's not what I was thinking at all, or whatever it is.

Yeah, I was thinking that's if you don't send her to college, oh, right, yeah, and then she just stays in the room, which is a way worst case scenario, right?

What was the food like there?

What did they give you?

They had, I remember a traditional like Holland breakfast was,

and so my entire representation of this was based off of the two people people that were like the local representatives, both Asian, but from Holland.

Uh-huh.

Bob Evans.

Holland, Michigan.

Probably not that.

And it was like, they had, it was like white bread with a chocolate spread and some sprinkles, which I remember having a little bit of a hard time.

Yeah, that.

What is that?

What the fuck?

Wait, it's chocolate sprinkles like Nutella?

I had a hard time getting my brain around that because it just seemed like such a sweet treat to like jumpstart.

I'm not a big sweets in the morning.

I get depressed.

I mean, I'm prone to depression.

I get depressed.

Less in the past couple years than ever.

What the fuck is that?

I was like Schmorgensborgen or something.

And eggs and yogurt and the cheeses.

And I remember the cheeses were really good.

But this was a big thing, and they had a name for those sprinkles.

It looks pretty good.

I remember not being into it at the time.

Dutch breakfast.

I've never heard of this.

I've been in Amsterdam a few times.

I've never heard of it.

It doesn't seem like a nutritious breakfast, but people.

Top with the Dutch stroop.

People were very healthy where we were because they were like doing a lot of manual labor undbecht

that sounds familiar this one

it sounds

sounds plausible oh no it just means that means breakfast oh

I didn't know um wow that's cool what's the Mexican word for beer cerveza cerveza I didn't know that was the name of the I didn't know that was the name for beer.

I thought it was a beer brand.

And my girlfriend was brainstorming like nate, like like beer, Mexican beers for some like commercial that she was doing.

And then afterwards, I was like, how'd you forget?

Cerveza.

Like, that's the brand that's everywhere.

And she was just like,

it just means beer.

Was it like this a lot?

Yes, cold cuts.

Cold cuts and freight jams.

Could you imagine if that's like what you just, that was your breakfast?

Like, because it's such a socially constructed thing of this is your breakfast food.

It's true.

The idea that it's like eggs.

Right.

Eggs and toast.

It's like you go to Asia and it's like, no.

That's not what we do.

And you're like,

but this is the time that that I eat breakfast.

Yeah, it's pretty healthy.

The cheese was really good.

But and when we're where we were, they were like getting this stuff like from the farm.

A lot of dairy cows, right?

A lot of dairy cows.

Yeah, this looks like a fucking dank meal.

You ever get the milk cow?

No.

I've sucked one off of.

Oh, my, could you imagine?

Sucking off a cow?

I'd put one of the udders in my mouth and yeah, I give a little,

but

I didn't get the milk a cow, but there were some people that I chickened out.

You were gonna?

They had cows on the farm.

And in Maine, I remember going on some field trips where we had the opportunity, but I never

didn't.

I just pictured something.

Yeah, I thought it would kick at me.

Yeah.

I said, I'm good.

Yeah.

The juice isn't worth the squeeze than the

uttering.

I feel like it'd be one of those things where you're like, it's just nice to be like, yeah, I did that once.

But you're getting no joy out of it.

It's just like, it's better than saying, no, I never have.

Totally.

Totally.

Like, I can picture it.

Yeah.

I can picture it.

So, what did you just walk on these trails?

So, I'm going to go back to food labels.

You would go into different trails

that were done last year, like overgrown from the winter or just last year.

Yes,

they're pretty overgrown.

They were old trails.

They weren't new trails.

But they would be pretty overgrown.

And I think it was from the winter.

Or if stuff had fallen, I think they're getting ready to open up the parks again.

But we would do a trail for a couple of days because the whole program was two weeks, two, three weeks, and then we would move on.

So then we got to see a bunch of the countryside because of it and it was all country so my plan was after that to go to amsterdam and backpack around

but i didn't why because the whole time i was out clearing the trails doing all this stuff i had a sickness brewing i got mono but i didn't know i had mono i just thought i was getting kind of tired and then i went to amsterdam for like

maybe five days with a girl and a guy that i met in the program program.

And we were like, oh, we'll all backpack together.

But by the time we got to Amsterdam, I'm like sweaty.

I'm feeling sick.

And we went, we did a couple things, but then I just was in the youth hostel.

And then I was like, I got to go home.

Something's wrong with me.

Mono.

How'd you get mono?

I was in college and it was like my first girlfriend I ever had was

in town.

And I remember I was seeing someone else and then I was really drunk at this grocery store and I remember making out on the floor of the grocery store.

It was disgusting.

Of a main country.

Not a main one.

It was Boston, which makes it a little not quite as bad as Maine.

It was gross.

It was disgusting.

But I remember doing that.

I must have been so fucked up.

It was like a 24-hour grocery store.

I'm sorry.

What the fuck?

I mean, it's disappointing.

On the floor, just rolling around.

It's disgusting.

It was so gross.

But I remember doing that.

And people are like, oh, you got mono in Amsterdam.

Are you partying?

And I was like, I was not partying.

I just got it from.

I took it with you.

I had it the whole time.

So I didn't get to travel around.

I traveled around Amsterdam a little bit, bit, but not a bunch.

So

the first two weeks of it were all just like countryside.

And they would take us into like the little towns and stuff.

I remember going to some grocery stores,

which was so cool because these were not like tourist spots.

So there was like no translation.

You really got to see how people were living.

And that was beautiful.

Wow.

I didn't really take many pictures either.

We were talking about before.

I didn't have an iPhone then.

I had a little like burner phone.

That was it.

I think I kept a journal.

I think.

Was it like, what was the air?

It was just clean air.

So clean.

Oh, my God.

So clean.

And I remember there was this guy that was like a local, like, he must have worked at the park.

And I can picture him.

He was like a very, like,

when you Google like people from the Netherlands, he looked like that's like what would pop up.

Like he was cast, very like on the nose.

Short little guy, blonde hair, blue eyes.

Yeah.

Had this little truck, and he would wear like a green, you know, park clearing.

And they had no qualms qualms about just giving us machetes and stuff it's it's nuts that in other countries machetes they don't even consider it a weapon no that here you go it's just a it's a farm tool right knock yourself out yeah and it felt really good because we would do that so you're getting like manual labor all day and then we would eat the food i don't even remember what the lunches were

We maybe went to one or two restaurants.

I do wish that I had gotten to explore Amsterdam more, though.

Just Amsterdam, the city of Amsterdam.

I would have loved to look because I remember like I went to the Van goh museum went to um the van goh museum i've been to it's that was cool i went to a museum last time i was there

it was like a pop-up i saw a yacht there was one one yayo kasama piece and she her stuff's always like pretty interesting i don't know who that is oh um she does a lot of these like infinity rooms cool with mirrors and stuff that's awesome so we had one in Phoenix, me and I think, or Jen Jose, me and Adrian went, and it's just like you look like you're on the 80th story of an under construction building.

That's awesome.

And you're like, whoa.

And then she has these giant, like this,

half the size of that wall pieces, and they're all very whatever.

Anyway, it's always interesting.

It's great that you make such a point to like go out and experience life stuff.

Yeah.

Well, also, I was on a long European trip, so it was like, it was warm out.

And there was like something.

It wasn't even a major museum.

I had been to Van Gogh with Paul Morrissey a while before.

The Van Gogh was, I remember the girl, it was this girl named Katrina.

That was who I like did most of the traveling with.

And we would like, she kind of like laid out.

She was like, I want to check out these things.

I think at this point, I was like pretty sick.

I just didn't realize it.

Because by the time I left Amsterdam, I remember going through the Amsterdam airport, sweating, feeling like such shit.

Wow.

And I remember going through customs and they think they thought I was just hungover because I was like,

it's a party town, too.

Right.

And then I got on the flight, got back to Boston, and I got, have you had mono?

I don't think I have.

It's a kissing disease, right?

Kissing disease.

Yeah, whatever.

Kissing.

So everyone's like, oh, partying.

No, grocery shopping.

That's funny, though, because

when you're telling me about this place, Udemberd,

Udenmurdem, Udemurdem.

Odemurdem, or however it's pronounced, yeah.

And I'm like, why have I only stayed in Amsterdam?

I would have loved to have gone up there.

And it wasn't even like, you know, I remember taking the train.

So you get out of Amsterdam.

It starts getting, you know, like, it's like kind of like their version of suburb.

And then you start getting into like the farm.

Like, I don't know if you're into bike riding at all, but it's flat where we were, too.

So it's like you could ride your bike so far and it would not be very hard, which I appreciate.

Never heard of it.

Sorry, different country.

Oh,

yeah, they all bike there.

I was mixing it up.

Oh, yeah.

But I would be interested in, I would like to do that.

Because you just feel like you've got a superpower.

It's so easy.

The one-speed or maybe the two-speed bikes.

You don't need anything more.

Zip it.

And they have, they have in Denmark, they have slow lane, fast lane.

Really?

Yeah, when you're ready to turn, you go into the slow turn lane.

And when you fuck it up, or you know, when you start and you wobble until you get going, they're like, what the fuck are you doing?

Because it's traffic.

Right.

There's 80 bikes.

Right.

They're getting road radars.

Get out of here.

Bike road race.

stupid fucking tourist

jesus uh-huh i wish they sometimes i wish they had a walking lane for texting but that they should i think it'd be nice i heard a congressman said or somebody at some local new york said was going to make it illegal to walk and text and i was like go for it you should give out tickets i would get a ticket and it's worth it you think so you're bumping into people they're slower you're walking behind somebody like why are you walking so slow oh you're texting right just stop or they walk right into you i do this now especially with asians when i see asians coming and i see a text coming at me i should go

like that

sorry why specifically asians uh the last one i saw was asian because they're on there all the time i don't know maybe just racism

at least black women are on their speakerphone they still got their wits about them yeah mary i'm up but they're still up they have it up they're not in it

I almost bumped into someone when we were both texting and I was like, if we dropped our phone, like we deserved it.

We should have canceled each other out.

You see people almost going to the roads all day.

Almost going into a sewer thing.

Oh, that's how the Jew tunnels were started.

You deserve it.

If you fall into that, then you deserve it.

We went to Helen Keller's house.

Helen Keller was there?

In Amsterdam.

We did that.

And then we did a couple other really touristy things.

But at that point,

I was feeling like shit.

But Odemirdum, not feeling like shit.

I'm so grateful I went to the ship.

It's such beautiful country.

And you saw the ocean there.

Saw the ocean.

Wow.

We went out on a boat at one point because I remember I was like, I got to check in with my mom.

And I remember sitting on this little boat and calling my mom like I just got reception.

And she picked up.

And I remember being like tripped out by, because it's just so surreal, especially like if you're in a rural place like this, that's so different from where the person you're calling is.

I remember being just tripped out by technology.

Like my voice is traveling through the.

earth to get to her in Boston.

And then I'm just like, where we're sitting is, where I was was just such a different place.

Damn.

Where were you high again?

Must have been.

That's so great too that you can get high out there.

Everyone forgets what it's like to get high for the first fucking time.

And have it be a good experience.

Like I didn't have any because me riding my bike after I smoked a bunch of pot through the cows, like getting home to the farm, that could have been bad.

If I got too high and it stopped at any point, took it.

But I didn't, I didn't,

like it was like all good because I've had bad, like I've with edibles or something where I've just been too high yeah

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i feel like I can just tell that it's a little because the trees are different from the woods in Maine.

Yeah.

Oh, you can tell that stuff?

this because in Maine the trees they just don't have trees that look quite like that it was really

it was beautiful too because I think a lot of times I'll like

re like I didn't it because it happened quicker it allowed me to go with the flow better I think right

there's a something to be said for like not having options it's like here's what we're doing

okay right doing it it's so fucking nice and so naturally and also it's

I don't know I'm so jealous especially living in New York.

It's like you get none of it.

Totally.

You're like, that is so, it's literally, yeah.

You spend a whole day in like Central Park and you're like, that buys me three days of sanity.

And then I'm right back to fucking, I got to kill somebody.

Right.

It's something about, and it also makes time slow.

Like an hour of recharging there.

Yeah.

That is,

that's like so hard to get when you're in an area where there's just shit going on all the time.

Oda mirror them.

Oda mirdum.

What would you tell anybody who's going there?

Like, this is what you should go see if you remember or go do or like bring with you or like advice?

This is a great question.

And I wish I had remembered more what I did while I was there.

But what I would say, if I could go back, I would have spent more time exploring the little towns around it because we would go in.

And I think I was like,

I knew that the group leaders were going to tell us what to do.

And I wish that I had been more independent because I like traveling by myself too.

I wish I'd been more independent with like checking out just things on my own.

On like a bike?

On my own.

I wish I'd done more biking because the biking was beautiful.

And I wish I had just like explored the local villages more too.

I'd say if you're going to go to Amsterdam,

I wasn't there long enough to check things out.

I was,

was I sober when I was there?

No, I wasn't.

I was smoking.

But I,

if I could go back to Amsterdam, I wish, if I could go back to Amsterdam, even though I got out of Amsterdam, I would have liked to have gotten out of Amsterdam more.

Like I would like to go and explore like all around Amsterdam.

I'm going to go back and Rotterdam.

I heard that's really nice, too.

And there's a tour stop there for sure.

I would be interested in doing that.

You can do it.

Also, Amsterdam comedy is booming.

Really?

House shows are packed

in this area.

All over Europe, but especially more than anywhere in Amsterdam.

I'm going to go to Amsterdam in March for my girlfriend's birthday.

We're going to go for a couple days.

Oh, yeah.

There's,

is it Jonglers?

I'd love to see like local, what local comics in Amsterdam are like, too.

They're not as, I mean, nowhere is as good as us.

Right.

Yeah, you heard right, London.

You know, my mom made a comment about it, too.

She was like, she saw a show, she came to a showcase show in the city, and she'd seen me at another like location.

And she was like, the host and the other people, that other one, they wouldn't even get in the door at this club in New York.

She's right.

And I was surprised that she clocked that.

She was like, wow.

That's what I was telling.

When Shane moved, I was like, you better be careful, dude.

And I'm like, he's like, well, I can know how to write a joke.

I'm like, yeah, but you're not following.

You're not following.

And he's like, who?

I'm like,

Jeff R.

Curry, Caitlin Palufo, fucking Maddie.

What about if, like, it's, it's a constant killers.

It is.

And you gotta like go on after.

I know, and then I'll get tripped up at it sometimes where I'll be like, like, who the fuck's this guy?

You, right.

You roll into a club and you're kind of like, okay, I'm just doing like one spot and I'm just gonna go home.

And then you see someone just like, boom, boom, boom, boom.

And you're like, fuck.

You've never even seen them before.

Yeah.

Where did this person come?

And it's not like we didn't see them because they're like famous online.

We didn't see them.

They're like, no, they've been doing push-ups in the gutter.

Yeah, they've been at Dangerfields or something.

Right.

And then they just popped up and you're like, shit, I got to go over what I was going to do.

Were there, were there any, what's the, was the gay scene, anything there?

So I was in the closet while I was there.

You were in the closet.

But this is what I was saying.

Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Back in the closet?

Back in the closet.

Just why?

So

I don't know.

So I was, I get to college, come out of the closet.

That's when I had that first girlfriend that I made out with in the grocery store, even though I think I was with someone else at the time.

Just to reiterate, disgusting.

Disgusting.

Why would I have done drinking?

Disgusting standing, maybe.

Ugh.

Just knocking over Cheerios.

So I was out

and then,

and I think I was like even seeing someone at the time or something.

But when I got there, I remember like as I was on the bus, I hadn't cut my hair yet.

So I could have, I passed it just like sporty.

And I remember being on the bus going into the country and I think I just, I hadn't, I'd only been out for like two years.

And, you know, it just didn't come up.

And then I remember this girl, Katrina, who I was about to travel with, she was like, I wonder if there's any gay people on this trip and I would just I just went I don't know and that was it and it was not mentioned at all and I remember her saying too we'd spent a couple days together she was like

she said something about wondering if this guy was gay and she was like I don't know she's like I've never spent much time with a gay person I don't know if we'd have anything in common and I was like oh like I just hit it calcited it yeah so I was then when I got to Amsterdam I don't know if you would I was yeah I don't know I'm like fire they're fucking brutal I don't know why I was like throwing them under the bed fun to go right back in the closet for a second.

That is a privilege.

Cause like people have, I hear that like come up when someone, you know, when like oppress groups are like trying to like go at each other, where they're like, well, you can always pretend to, I mean, and I, I'm like, I hear you on that because I did utilize it at that time.

But I know it was sweet, right?

It was.

I could go right back in if I want.

Because it felt easier.

It just felt like I didn't want to have those conversations, even though I was in Holland.

And they're pretty forward with that, right?

So they don't care.

But I was in the, I was like way out in the country, so I guess I felt a little

maybe that's what my spidey senses were kicking in.

We're like, hey, what if this isn't okay?

And you're out in the middle of this farm and no one is expecting to hear from you for two weeks while you're out with a machete in the woods.

Tied up.

Tied up.

Like, what was that movie with that black guy and the chick from Adam's family?

I didn't see it, but it doesn't sound like something I'd want to be in.

Christina Ricci, all tied up.

He tied her up because she was too much of a whore.

Shit.

And it was, it was, who's the black actor?

He's in those credit card commercials.

Not Denzel.

Not Denzel.

Older one.

I don't know.

He ties her up because she's too much of a.

Chains her up.

Damn.

And he's like, you got to get the devil out of you.

He's a bat.

He's crazy.

No, but I think it was like she needed it.

And then

I didn't see it.

I just saw the preview.

And is this, and then like, did he kill her?

No, no.

I think he got the devil out of her.

Damn.

Set her free back on her path.

I mean, if she was into it.

I don't think she was.

I think he kidnapped her and like took the devil out of her.

Damn.

I don't know.

But I was afraid of something like that.

Right, right, right.

So I was like, some part of me.

So the point is, anyway, some part of me was like, I'm going to not mention it.

Yeah.

And so I just, I didn't, but I'm sure I know Holland.

So when I was in Amsterdam, I didn't like go check out anything like that.

I maybe would have been.

I would have even internalized.

Are you good at like meeting?

If you went to Amsterdam, let's say you didn't have mono, could you go

to like out to a social bar and like meet somebody?

I don't think so.

Yeah, I can meet men, right?

I can't meet a woman.

Really?

No way.

I can meet a man if they're drunk and I get into a conversation because there's no pressure there.

That's true.

Because then, right, then it'd be a whole thing.

Yeah, it's just like a dude talking about you're from.

I'm not afraid.

Okay.

Yeah, I'm not hitting on it.

Right.

You don't have to boom, boom, boom, or like pretend something.

You're not explaining why you're staying at a youth hostel or whatever.

True.

And if you meet a woman, even if, even if it's just from, it's still always that,

should we?

Right.

It's like hanging over your head.

I don't know.

You even had that approach when you were like in college?

No, in college, I was a virgin.

Really?

Yeah.

So

in college, it was easier to meet people.

In college, it was way easier to meet people.

How into college were you virgining?

One, two, three, three years, maybe my second sophomore year, 23.

But I took two years off before, so what it would have been 21.

Did people, did like your friends know?

yeah i was just waiting for the right check i was waiting for my one first girlfriend to come around oh yeah

yeah she cried when i stuck it in was she a virgin too

anyway though i i it so amstead even i was there this last time and i was like i'll just go to a bar i guess and get like some cheese and sausages and sit there by myself and then some romanian guy started talking to me Okay, fine, fun enough.

If they ask what you do, do you tell them you're a comedian or do you pretend to be something?

I did.

I often don't.

Yes.

What about you?

I often don't.

Yeah.

But I don't have a slick answer.

Like sometimes if it's independent contractor.

Ooh.

You're not a lot.

It's not a lot of people.

I can't pull that off.

No, you can't.

Nah, because I go, like, if you said, what do you do?

And I,

would you mind asking me what I do?

Yeah, sure.

Oh, my God.

That's such a cool.

Hey, what do you do?

I'm independent contractor.

Oh.

What does that mean?

I just do, like, it's just on contracts.

Okay.

see I didn't fuck but I feel like I'd be so what I'll say is if they go what do you do I go I usually I'll be like I work at night okay and then they're like uh what so here's what I found when I was traveling like four four months or something in Asia it was they'd ask you what you do but really what they're saying is can we start a conversation right they don't really care what you do yes so they go so like where are you from New York what do you do in New York I walk around get high hang out with friends a lot sometimes I see movies and they're like oh okay what do you and they'd have to really push.

Like, no, what do you do for money?

I'm like, you know, I don't know, this or that.

Like, what do you do?

They'd have to really push.

But they're just trying to start a conversation.

You just have to give someone something that then they can respond to.

So, yeah, I love going to movies.

Oh, nice.

Exactly.

Well, I used to, in college, I was

an undertaker for a while.

No way.

Yeah, it was so fun.

And then get it onto them.

It's okay.

We're done.

Yes.

I'll usually keep it to now.

If someone asks, I will just try to keep it moving.

But if I was meeting someone, especially out of that element, I'd I'd say, oh, I work in New York.

Maybe I would say, I've said in the past that I work with comedians, like I work with comedians booking them at colleges, but that also doesn't go well because people are like, you should meet my cousin.

And I'm like, fuck.

It's a wildly interesting job to be a comedian.

It's weird.

Yeah.

This Romanian guy told me an answer.

He was like, he was like, Romanian comics are

better than American.

American comic codes are Romania.

I'm like, I'm going like in a week.

And he's like, no, you'll fail.

Cause you go, oh, oh, I fuck your mom.

I fuck your mom.

You say that in Romania.

No, I fuck your mom.

I fuck your mom.

How about that?

And you're like, I don't, well, I don't, that's not my delivery.

I'm not going to second a fight to his mom.

It's like, we're the problem.

Rome from us.

I'm like, that's actually not my mom.

Please fuck your mom.

And you're like, okay, fine, you're funnier.

That's the ultimate gauge.

That's the ultimate.

You win.

You win.

I would be so curious to see a Romanian comedian.

They have one.

I worked with one.

There's just one guy out there?

Dragos.

He's the best one there.

Huh?

He lives in Berlin now.

It's so interesting to see how, because I remember going to Australia and the setups were different because they do much more storytelling.

I found.

Oh, yeah.

And I was like, oh, this is, but the audience will stay with them through a whole story.

Yeah, I wish I would have seen more of the ones that stayed in Romania.

Dragos is like a Berlin comic from Romania.

He'll do it there, but like.

Yeah, what their vibe would have been.

Yeah, in Australia, they do stay for like a long story.

What's the culture of how they're in England?

It's very theatrical.

Never seen any comedy.

I did go to Libya.

I've never seen the theater, But not for comedy.

I'd never been there for comedy.

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But I do wish if I was going to go back, well, I am going to go back to Amsterdam and it's going to be a pretty short trip, but if I was going to go out to the countryside, I also feel like this is a good, it's a good solo trip.

It also could be a good romantic trip, but there's other beautiful countrysides you can probably get to quicker too.

Oh.

Because

this is a hike.

You're flying into Amsterdam, then you're going like two hours out.

So you've got to be like...

Still.

But it is absolutely beautiful.

So you could say a little Airbnb or something very remote.

But if you want the countryside effect,

there are other countrysides that you could go to.

Yeah, but this one seems

cool.

Yeah, there's tons.

I mean, there's tons of places.

People ask me all the times, like, should I go to this?

Is it wrong?

Like, there's no right place.

If you're going to look at, whatever's calling you is the right place.

Speaking of, where else is on your list of places to go?

Okay, so we're going to, I'm going to Amsterdam again,

coming up, and then for me.

Alone or with it?

With Lexi.

Okay.

We're going to go for her birthday because Amsterdam's her favorite place.

Oh, and I've never been there.

Amsterdam proper.

Amsterdam proper.

I'll tell you this museum.

I saw a video piece in there that it's so fucking, it's gonna sound gay.

Say it.

It moved me so hard.

It was completely covered in.

It was a

it's three artists, a poet, a musician, and a

video guy person.

And they brought together this thing.

So it's this big video piece.

The whole thing was covered in mirrors so I could look corner-wise and see the screen, but I'll see myself and it was just this long like melodic thing behind it and weird graphics and it was all about like putting down your phone there was a quote in there that I was like

and

yes I was high but not in a level like obliterated and it said like that I gotta find it actually was it something that like just you would see just I walked in it was to see that yayukasama thing and then found some other stuff huh and but like could other people be seeing it while you were in there But I was all alone.

That's cool.

Yeah.

That's cool.

Keep talking.

Find it.

Okay, so where else I want to go?

I was telling Ari before we started recording, I really want to go to, I want to go to Thailand because I want to learn how to do some type of ultimate fighting.

Yeah.

And I also, like when I'll

be so curious, I'd be a little afraid because I did just get all my teeth back.

Remember the last time I was here, I was missing a tooth?

Yeah, what is that?

I got it fixed, but I was missing a tooth because I was doing a boxing class, punched myself in the face.

So I'd be a little afraid of what I would do in Thailand at a fighting school.

But I would love to do that.

I would really like to go.

I would like to go to, I'd be very interested to go to South Africa.

I've been around a few of the Bahamian Islands.

I've been to this one island, Cat Island, like eight times.

I've never heard of it.

Tiny.

Wow.

My dad.

Cat Island?

Cat Island.

My dad used to go every Christmas.

My dad lives in really rural Maine and then his Christmas breaks.

He's a math teacher.

He would go to Cat Island.

So I've been there a bunch, but I would be curious to explore other Bahamian islands just because I got to spend time in that one.

So I'm just, I just am interested in what the other cultures are like.

That'd be fun.

I think it'd be interesting.

Greece.

I've never been to Greece.

I just went.

Good experience.

Ruled.

I've never been somewhere that I was like, I regret.

I mean,

even like...

Like sometimes like this coming weekend, I'm going to go to Des Moines.

Fine.

Whatever.

Yeah.

Looking forward to it.

But like last weekend, I was in Omaha and my mom was like, you're in Omaha again?

And because I've been there probably three or four times.

I like Omaha because

I like the comedy club there.

So now I'm basing things off of Omaha.

Omaha is cool.

It's got a good vibe.

It's one of the underrated cities.

The downtown is full of like art scenes and hipsters and cool people.

Where you're just, you know, where it's like that now too?

Where?

I was in Rochester and I went to some side part of Rochester because they had, there was like a conference in town, so all the hotels are booked.

So I was like off the side in Rochester.

Hipsters, poets,

all that stuff.

Yeah, I grew up shocked.

Shocked.

Interesting.

But I like Rochester.

I like going to like little pockets.

I haven't, that's all to say.

I don't think I've been someplace where I'm like, I wish I hadn't gone to that place, except

maybe Syracuse.

Now, I like Syracuse.

Just a mall.

I love Saratoga Springs.

It's so beautiful.

But,

you know what?

That's not even fair.

I went to to Syracuse in the middle.

You know what?

I take it back.

I went there in the middle of winter, and it was like, it was a rough time to be doing shows there.

Yeah.

The shows, it was some tough shows, but I don't know Syracuse like that.

So I take it back.

Okay.

Do you have any tips for travel in general?

Okay, so my tips for travel would be don't let yourself get too fucked up on the flight.

Like, try to be, because I hate.

Who would?

Now, I used to get really, like, I would not stay hydrated.

I would just like eat shit food pack no stacks don't get too fucked up on the flight throw that up that's a good tip no one ever says that because it's you you get the alcohol for free a lot and then you get fucked up and then you come in in a bad way and then you get like jacked up on the caffeine there's so many trips that i've been on where i feel like once i get there i'm almost like detoxing from what i was doing before i was on vacation yeah and that is fine that's like a good way to like you know if you're just like doing it to you want to get reset but if you want to go into someplace where like i want to be like more clear-headed

try not to be so unhealthy getting up to it because I used to always just like roll into places and then I'd just be want to sleep the whole time I was there

that is that's I'm going sober for for a bit because I'm gonna go to Carnival nice in Trinidad you're just gonna get so fucked up while you're there so fucked up and there's no way around that there's no way around that so it's like let's get that liver a little bit healthy before and also once you get there then you can get Accompanying then you can go you don't want to be getting there and being like I just want to be groggy and sleep the whole time yeah i would say my number i'm trying to think what my number one travel tip would be those

that's a good one i've never heard before don't get fucked up on the way i also like i'll wear like compression socks on flights i don't know if that actually does anything but like keeps your circulation going don't drink the coffee on the airplane i always just like i love it i i i've had it too much

to say i love coffee airplanes i've had duzzled so much i used to get so jacked up on caffeine on the flights yeah and then i would just feel like shit when i land do you have a number one travel tip

Not number one, I ask everybody for these.

I like travel light.

Build up, not down.

You don't want to take too much.

And honestly, if you're not like

a backpacker kid, a gap year, you can just buy something if you need it.

And the idea that you won't is like, have it is like, just get it.

It's a simple truth, but that is so true.

Cause you don't want to be checking your bag or like schlepping around with stuff.

I'll also say this one thing I've noticed, like every single place that you go,

then this I've learned more as I've gotten older, but every single place that you go, everybody is totally in their own world doing their own thing.

So, just because you're on vacation doesn't mean they're on vacation.

Oh, that's a good question.

So, like, when you, I'll see that with, like,

more.

So, maybe if I go on a trip with my mom, like when we get there, she'll be like looking around at everybody, like, trying to engage and just read the room on that because they're maybe just trying to

work.

Right.

Um,

also, somebody told me this when I went to, when I was leaving Asia, so nervous.

And a girl I was dating, excuse me, woman I was dating.

Um, I'm trying, I'm trying my best.

Kate Willett fucking got through to me.

Oh, really?

She didn't say anything.

I just heard her say something, and I was like, oh, yeah, why do it?

Whatever.

It's not a big deal.

But anyway, woman I was dating, she's like, hey, if you get nervous, just any activity you do, you will be surrounded by people who are also interested in that activity.

So you already have something in common.

Yes.

If you're going to an elephant sanctuary, it's all people interested in that.

And travelers

doing that.

That's exactly what's like when people want to go to a comedy show alone.

I'm like, you're not going to be alone.

There's not going to be alone.

There's a bunch of other people there hopeful.

Or I'll be like, at least I'll be there.

I i can guarantee that yeah i'll be there that is a good way to look at it also like yeah i would love to go to a freaking elephant sanctuary you should the non-humane kind are the definitely the ones to go to they play first of all they play harmonica for you which is great they make

you ride them they don't seem to notice at all what's the last place you'd want to go international like the last would you go to russia don't never interested I've never been interested either.

I've never had any interest.

Not because of anything.

Right, right, right.

Yeah.

I would actually be kind of interested to go to Russia someday.

Yeah.

It's where they make peptides.

I don't know what that means.

Peptides are like an amino acid, but you can inject it.

And that the Russian, I don't know, I've been doing a lot of Redditing on it, but it's like

a lot of the peptides that you buy online come through Russia, and I would be interested.

It's like a, like, there's one I would call BPC157 that like helps your gut heal.

Yeah.

CJC1295.

They make them there?

They make them there.

It helps your muscles regrowth, like growth hormones, but it's like they're not allowed in the states wait i've heard of peptides how are they not here

some schools of thought are that they

i forgot you're such a health freak some schools of thought are healthy but am i healthy about it i don't know because like

i'll like order i i don't i

ordered nad and i was like injecting it what is that it's like a vitamin that's supposed to be good for people with adhd but you have to inject it my girlfriend was like what are you doing She's like, you are injecting something you bought on the internet, but I had to do a telehealth thing.

I mean, you got a oh, really?

Yeah, but it could have been, who knows?

It could have been.

I talked to some guy for like two minutes, and he was like, Do you know what you're doing?

And I was like, Yes,

you did not.

I mean, I figured it out, but like, I could have been so I'm healthy, but I'm a little bit reckless.

But I love, I've been really interested in biohacking and that, so I've been on all these.

So, you want to go to Washington for that?

I'm, I would be curious too, but I can't think of a place like the last place I would want to go.

Probably the number, my number one place now that I i would like to go to my number one place that i'd like to go right now for really

the the number one number one actually i want to try the hot springs in new zealand or is it in iceland i'm stupid iceland has hot springs where are the best hot springs i can't tell you that iceland has i think ice hot spring culture that's i really want to do that and they have even in town all they go to like local not hot springs but they take the volcanic water and they run it so it's like different levels that's what i would like to do yeah there's only like one sauna or steam room and the rest are all i would love cold plunges.

They have one with a water slide that comes down, but then also my buddy for another episode, my buddy took me to one like way out in the north.

And he's like, I remember this one when I was a kid.

And he's like, there's a cow, there's a sheep pasture here.

It's through that one.

I'm like, there's 20 of them.

He's like, no, I remember the one.

And then you go pass through that over a fence, and then you just shimmy down a rope.

And we were just in this crevice.

You remembered it from like a while back, and then he brought you back to it?

We were in this crevice for like an hour and a half alone, just the two of us in this hot water.

That's awesome.

Went down to i don't know how far this little scar where is it came from there do i still have it the scar came from there on one of the roads oh wow yeah but like just smash your hand no i just like it like they're jagged it just like cut it i was like ow fuck yeah um

yeah you should go iceland little travel tip let's wrap this up please i love a travel tip uh wow air and i think iceland air icelandic air gives free layovers as long as you want So so if you're going, because it goes up to go to like Denmark and shit like that, and Amsterdam.

It goes up and down.

You You don't go like straight.

Right.

If you can do a layover there, you can do a two-hour layover or you can say, hey, for free, make it a six-day layover.

Or

four or three for no extra.

That's awesome.

That's a great travel tip.

Yeah.

That's a really good travel tip.

I'm going to be clocking good travel trips because now my whole, like, it's all about like getting through the airport like as fast as you can most efficiently.

But that's not necessarily for traveling for pleasure.

That's not.

That's for something else.

That's like if you're just trying to get into the show.

Just go.

Yeah.

that's I'm never more organized than when I'm going through the airport trying to like just get through it just get through.

Yeah, do you have any regrets for this trip?

I regret I regret that I I wish I had done a little bit more research I wish as always with everything I'm like I wish I had appreciated it more and I wish yeah yeah yeah in some ways it's nice that I wasn't documenting it but I didn't really take any photos I could have brought it lost in it I got lost so photos are a weird thing because now you look back like I wish I had photos but at that time you would have been out of it saying especially it wasn't the Instagram era, I guess.

No, not at all.

But like, then you're living for people that aren't even around you.

You're like, I should take a picture for a bunch of strangers who aren't even here with me.

And also, maybe I would have done something totally different because I would have been like, photographable.

I would have been doing the freaking, I would have probably still gone to Jamaica taking a bunch of pictures that probably would have been very problematic now.

Oh, yeah.

Me just like dancing on the beach or whatever I would have been doing.

But

I didn't take any pictures.

Maybe I wish I tried a little bit more of the local food.

And that's something to, to i could get better at easily because i'm not great about doing that eating the food because i'm down to eat whatever but i like to just go to the same places because i know what to expect yeah so i would be down to try because i'll pretty much try whatever more local food yeah more presents because also you'll have something my brother and i were in uh we were gonna go skiing in in zurmat in switzerland but there was no snow it was last april that's scary yeah and so we're like hey let's pivot and go to italy instead here

so we're like let's go somewhere else and so we did like hey in this one town i forget what town it is, there's this one local pasta dish made with like just char

and like, and pasta and whatever.

And it's like, it's not even that great, but you should have it as long as you're here.

I'm like, yeah, I'll never get this again.

Right.

So, yeah,

a real one-off experience.

Yeah, those are fun.

That is fun.

Because that's also like, that's like what people are trying to get up to when they talk about going off the eat beaten path.

You're actually like going off where you're like, okay, I'm fine in this thing.

And there's even something more of a novelty to it that it isn't the quote-unquote best thing.

Yeah.

Because then it'd probably be swamped.

But you're just

know what I mean?

Yeah.

For every like machu Picchu, there's another one that's not well known.

Right.

And it's almost or as good.

Right.

And it, or maybe it's just hey, but that's why it's empty.

Yeah.

Me and List and Sarah and

Vecchio went to

Zion once after the Vegas thing, the Vegas seller.

We're like, we got a cabinet.

This guy was like, I was like, that's a little expensive.

He's like, who are you?

I'm like, it's just a bunch of of comics or new york you know trying to get lost he goes oh i built it for this i'll give you a discount you got to come love that bongos everywhere to play but the major ones in zion the hikes and stuff were all like okay they're pretty packed but he goes right from this backyard you can go to like

you know an a minus that no one's at and it's still gonna blow your mind yeah exactly because it's not something you've seen before yeah and it's just us we owned it that's awesome There's something so beautiful about getting out in Vegas too, getting off the strip because you don't even have to go that far to see those mountains.

It's so red rocks or whatever.

It's so pretty because that's so different.

Anything too that's so different from what you grew up around

that blows my mind.

Just that landscape being so different blows my mind.

You ever been to Joshua Tree?

I have, and I was there for a weekend, and I loved it.

I love the desert.

It's magic.

Because that's so different.

Like, even Holland, the countryside there, I was kind of used to the countryside from Maine.

So it did was like astounding and beautiful, but I wasn't like tripped out on how different it was.

Like I get when I go to the desert.

Yeah, or Sedona, a place like that.

Never been to Sedona, I don't think.

It's just big buttes and stuff.

Anyway.

Alaska.

Have you been to Alaska?

Yeah.

I would like to do that.

I was like, I've been doing the longest day of the year there.

If I were ever to do a cruise, I would want to do one in Alaska.

Because I feel like that'd be a nice way to see the glaciers.

Rogan and I went fishing there once.

Nice.

Yeah, they're like, you can go to a packed place and keep the fish, or you can go to a catch and release place that really nobody's at.

We're like, we get fish where we're at.

Right.

Let's go to where no one's at.

Right.

who's fucking rad who's idea was that to go there rogan's no we did a show and they go let's stay for a few days right

and yeah i probably pushed him too i was like hey let's not hurry back yeah when are we gonna be in here again and you have enough money to fucking spend on shit let's let's stay you gotta hire this way before spotify right stay and do some shit

they have good reindeer dogs there oh yeah terms of local stuff it's just delicious thank god it was good who because a bad reindeer dog would be fucking disgusting yeah EM's reindeer dogs was the best one.

They had two downtown, one with like a line around the block, one with like two people.

And one time I was like, I'm not in the line.

I'm like, oh, this is way worse.

EM, I think his name was, eventually, I mean, it was so good.

It tastes like a hot dog?

It tastes like a hot dog, but like

juicier, more flavorful.

And

they're not in danger or anything.

Eventually got someone was like, hey, he hit on me.

He shouldn't have hit on me.

Killed himself.

No more EMs.

Fuck.

Yeah.

Does someone still make the dogs?

I don't know.

Things are done.

Yeah, sad.

But you make your own path.

Make your own path.

I'd love to try Reindeer Dog.

Emma, people can find you online

at Iam Emma Wilman.

And thank you for

Instagram, TikTok.

And then all my tour dates are up at IamMWilman.com.

I bought EmmaWilman.com when I was drunk, forgot to log in, so now I own I Am Emma Wilman.

Oh, damn.

You got to find that.

Got to find that.

But I haven't thought about this trip for

years.

Aren't these fun?

It's so because like even just like pulling those pictures up, it's like I mean, it was a long time ago at this point.

So I haven't thought about what I ate there.

And that was like one of the few things I've done that was very much local immersion.

Cause normally I'm going and I'm on a trip or I'm staying at Big City.

You already have a comedian setting it up or whatever.

Right.

That was, that sounds so cool.

Yeah, these are so fun.

I'm just getting off on seeing people.

I'm also like getting interviewed by people about my trip sometimes for this.

And it's like, as I'm talking, it's like, oh, yeah.

Or I'll see a picture.

I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Right?

That fucking thing was there.

Right.

It just brings you back to shit you just haven't thought of.

Totally.

That's just like floating around our little brains.

It makes you want to like go.

It does.

Yeah.

Yeah.

My mom used to always say, she'd be like, traveling is so important.

And it's so easy to get caught up.

I mean, I know it's like such a, it's a privilege to be able to do it and find the time and blah, blah, blah.

But it's so easy to get caught up in the rat race.

Yeah.

And then two years pass.

And then one day, 10 years has passed.

What's that that Pink Floyd lyric?

And then you're 95.

Is that it?

Oh, no.

You're whatever.

Pink Floyd lyric.

And then one day, 10 years has passed.

Oh, I don't know.

Something.

Yeah.

That quote I couldn't find, but it was something along the lines of,

there are moments of beauty, and if you're quiet and still, you can see them.

And it was pretty much saying, like, put your phone down.

Don't do anything.

Don't be returning emails.

Don't just like be aware.

And just like, wow, look at that kid helping another kid up.

Or, you know, just like there's things out there that you just miss.

And the universal, like, I think, like, will provide some experiences that you can't even conjure up in your brain.

Yeah.

So don't ever think that you can expect it, that you've seen it before, future hop too much where you're like, I know what's going to happen.

Yeah, right, right, right.

Because, like, every time I think that, then something does not happen.

Damn, I want to go to the north now.

Well, thank you for having me.

Yeah, you're welcome, Emma.

Yeah, appreciate it.

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