Buttering Up Mr Hollywood Michael Shanks

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Hello everyone out there in Auntie Donna Land.

We have a very special guest today here on our Auntie Donna podcast.

We have a sometimes silly, sometimes earnest chat with Hollywood director Michael Shanks, who made a film in the the Docklands in Melbourne.

It's sick.

We love him.

We've been working with him for a long time.

It's a lot of fun and it's pretty long.

Enjoy!

Hello, everyone.

Boy, do we have a very, very, very special, spooky, spooky, spooky,

naughty, spooky girl?

Sexy

horny, sexy, a little bit horny.

Should we give a warning if you get spooked easily?

Yes, if you get spooked easily.

Keep listening, but just be ready to get spooked.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, because we're talking to Mr.

Spooky.

Spook expert, if you will.

Yeah, and that's not a character that Broden's playing, although...

Write that down because I think that's good for a Halloween episode.

Mr.

Spooky.

Don't look at me like that.

I'm just making an offer.

Do you want me to do Mr.

Spooky now?

Just try?

No, because now I'm more concerned about the way Broden's sort of just kind of like looking at me because I suggested Mr.

Spooky.

You want me to, you want to tell me what characters I play.

That was just an offer, mate.

That was just an offer.

How would Mr.

Spooky sound?

Tell me, come on.

I don't know.

I was just about to do Mr.

Spooky, but

you're going to start up this conversation.

Mr.

Spooky now.

I get it.

Look, guys,

we're we're tearing each other apart when really what we should be doing is coming together.

Now,

that has not a lot to do with Michael.

No, no, no, no, doesn't say.

I thought it was cool intro music for Shanks.

Oh, for Michael Shanks.

Well, okay, sure.

But I just wanted to throw it out there, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So, just then, when you said we were tearing each other apart,

Mark, not Justin.

No, just now, apologies.

Mark, Yep.

Jesus fucking Christ.

Guys, we are tearing each other apart when really what we should be doing is coming together.

Justin, Justin.

No, Mark.

You do know you said the name of the film that Shanks is here to promote when you say that.

Together.

Yes.

Shanks, we will introduce you.

Yeah, you need to.

Dude, chill.

Chill out, man.

You know how this works.

You know, you've been zip-zapping all around the world in business.

Do you know Mr.

Hollywood now?

Don't you know it?

You know, we know that maybe in Hollywood, maybe the interns at the Hollywood studios let you speak whenever you want, but it's a little different here.

We are in our.

But awesome to have you here.

Should we introduce you to the other side?

Yes.

Can I just say, Justin, if I can for a second?

Mark.

That.

Have I confused you by saying just now?

Do you think his name is Justin?

I, for years, have been calling him Mark, and I'm trying to make the smooth transition to your name.

His name is Mark.

Here we can apologize.

I can apologize.

I'm actually chill with whatever because I don't give a fuck.

That's what I've learned from our new guest is like, if you just don't give a fuck and you just do like kind of nothing, then eventually someone will hand you a bunch of money.

What have you done?

That's what I kind of want to say before we get any further because a lot of people are going, why, why?

What is this?

Yeah.

For over a decade, we've known a gentleman

in Melbourne.

Yes.

Who has made, he was just some YouTuber.

Yeah.

and then Adam Sandler ripped off his high school project he did out of high school.

Oh, that's true.

Yeah.

What was it?

Pixel.

Remember the...

Pixel.

Remember the Pixel sir.

Pixel.

Happy Gilmore.

No, yeah.

There was a movie where Adam Sandler fought Pac-Man and other various video games.

Little did he know that I had previously been fighting Pac-Man myself around the streets of Altona North.

So yes, we've been friends with a gentleman for a while.

Yeah.

Been watching them from afar being brilliant.

they did a sketch with us once uh-huh we collabbed with them on a sketch yeah yes uh called pud

he did all the vfx shots for pud yeah and uh and another one put we originally filmed in a group in a green screen yes so you could in the office

anyway we were doing youtubes with him and then he stopped making youtubes for a bit right this guy and i was like why has he stopped making youtubes we need more max pain parody videos we need more tank versus tennis player we need more um if george lucas had done the new star wars which he dropped on the same day did you just as that trailer that is true it was less than 24 hours explain that video man still michael if i may be earnest for but a moment still one of the funniest one of the funniest things i've ever seen it was right in your wheelhouse it was right in the zeitgeist wheelhouse absolutely especially because you know i saw all the star wars films in 97 for the 20th year anniversaries i was aware of the trailers.

I had it on VHS,

the gold box set, that gold Star Wars logo, very meaningful for me.

So when the, in what, 2015, when the Force Awakens trailer dropped, less than 24 hours later, on his popular channel, Tim Timfed, on YouTube, Michael Shanks dropped a

Force Awakens, the George Lucas.

Edition trailer, which was the same trailer, but just had more bullshit,

just had more TIE fighters and some dinosaurs

ironically by the third star wars they were pretty literally yes they were

star destroyers

yeah and anyway uh so around then that that video blew up you'd had a lot of videos blow up and i remember thinking to myself from about 2015 god he's hardly ever uploading to youtube what a shame what a shame and what a and what a wasted career opportunity

lazy fucking did i know for the last 10 years you've been tinkering away at your Hollywood debut.

It's Michael Shanks.

Thank you, boys.

Thanks for having me.

Writer director of Together,

the new Hollywood hit.

Sorry, that's a feature.

This is the intro now, but the music.

Writer, director of Together, the new Hollywood hit from Neon Productions.

Yes.

Do three and a half.

Co-produced by Michael Cowab with additional CGI renderings done by Tim Tim Fed.

Second Second unit.

Second unit.

Oh, by Max Miller.

Max Biller from Auntie Donna.

From Auntie Donna.

It is.

You know him as Tim Tim Fed and as the writer-director of Together, the latest hit out of Sundance, or South by Southwest.

Sundance.

So we then played South by Southwest as well.

Wow.

Sydney?

Well, you do Sydney Film Festival.

Reigniting

Hope and Drive.

After years of

distributors not doing big purchases from independents, he changed the game.

He changed it again with the release of the hilarious, horrific, funny, but touching personal story that is Together.

Starring what's our favorite

community?

And what's his name from the magician show?

From Scrubs.

From Scrubs.

From Scrubs.

Franco, yeah, the final, like, Scrubs of the new class, whatever they were called.

And the disaster artist.

Let's not forget about the disaster artist, where he played Greg Sestero.

And in the supporting role, the guy from every Australian film in the last 50 years and every American film in the last 20 years.

Simon Herriman!

Michael Shaggs has been changing the game.

First in YouTube, now in cinema.

And he's our guest today.

Broden is telling me I have to keep the intro going for the length of the song.

I think we could just cut off the track, maybe.

Well,

I reckon Michael could play this on the drums.

Oh, maybe I could.

He tells me This Renaissance man can play the drums.

And the guitar.

And the guitar.

And the guitar.

He does his own CG.

He did his own CG, but now he's brought on a team.

But I did notice that credit.

You did a little bit of additional work.

I did.

You actually noticed the Tim Tim Fed credit, that's right.

I did like.

Sorry to.

But there's like 170 VFX shots in the film.

I did about 130 of them.

I did.

Wow, wow, we wa.

Wow, that's a lot of effects.

Are you doing that in Resolve or After Effects?

no, Adobe After Effects.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

You don't mind that subscription model?

I don't at all because now I've got that Hollywood schmanny.

Oh, Hollywood schmoney paying for schmanny.

You know where right across from it, though.

I know.

Where we record.

I flick them the finger on the top and past them.

We lived in my little, that's how I get through the day.

We lived in Hollywood for a time.

You spend much time in Hollywood?

How long is this track?

A little bit.

Not too much, though.

That's my answer.

Wow.

Wow, wow.

It's Michael Shanks.

I watched together last night.

I had been meaning to get around to watching it and then I thought, fuck, I'm seeing Shanks tomorrow.

You've got the spectrum of people and how they've consumed it.

I've seen it a while ago, seen it last night, and never seen it.

I was going to fly up to Sydney to see it opening night at the Sydney Festival, but we were working on something.

Yes.

And then I thought, I'll see it when I see it.

And then

I was going to see it on tour.

And then I remembered, remembered no Shanks is coming in tomorrow so I went and watched it at the Docklands and I thought how fitting ah we filmed it at Docklands next door to the very place you filmed it and did I tell the 17 year old girl selling me the ticket that fact yes I did and did she give any level of shit no she did not hey the song's finished and then I asked for a beer and she said I can't serve you that I'm 17 I said okay and then I stood there for a good five minutes while the movie was about to start and then I said well could you get someone that's 18 that could serve me a beer?

And she was like, oh, yeah.

And then she went and got someone that was 18.

And what did you get?

What beer did you get?

Bolter XPA, I think.

But there's also

here's what I want to know.

Michael, thanks for being here, man.

Thank you for being here.

It's good to see you.

Thank you so much for having me.

Yeah.

Sometimes it can feel, if I can say briefly, sometimes when your friends, and may I call you a friend?

Of course.

You can lie.

Yeah.

We're friends on air, but sometimes you see friends just doing wonderful and you're like, well, I can't reach out to them now yeah they're too successful yes and the fact that you're sitting here with us or wanted to come on means the world to us um because we're just worms now

we're just worms yeah for you to grace us

with your hollywood presence

is a very big thing for us

now well i mean present company excluded yeah yeah definitely we did one hollywood show

yeah we went to hollywood and we're obviously in the australian release of Dungeons and Dragons.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

We've tasted it.

Can I find that?

I've tried to.

No, okay, okay, no.

I believe.

I believe if you watch the one on streaming here,

I've heard mixed reports.

Really?

Well,

Michael, if you don't know, they brought us in to do three voices.

The resurrected skeletons.

Yes, yeah.

And then the man just said, can you try and replicate the voices doing it?

And so it was a very slow process of us replicating the voices that were already there.

Because they didn't go to the lip sync again kind of thing?

No, it was more just they were happy with it and the performance is given.

And I guess

people had told other people that this was happening, and not everyone got to say, well, I don't really want that to happen, but it just went ahead and happened.

Some people thought it was a good idea, and then what I imagine happened is that other people thought it was a bad idea.

Which it is.

So the compromise that was made was, well, we'll just get these people to do exactly what's already been done with very little change or alteration to the point where our own team

did private screening for us at World Class Cinema.

Which they after demolished.

Did they?

Gem Factory's gone.

Right over there.

It's gone, yeah.

They were like, yeah.

Bring it down, boys.

Yeah,

they were bringing it in as we were walking out.

In come the bomby knocker.

What's it called?

Called a bomby knocker?

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

Is I think called a Tommy knocker?

What's a bomby knocker?

I think you've made that up.

No, I haven't made up bomby knocker.

I've been saying bomby knocker since I was a child.

Have I been saying...

You might not have made it.

What's a tommy knocker?

Tommy Knocker is like a horror thing, isn't it?

Isn't a Tommy knocker like a Stephen King-like?

Your best friend, man.

Wait, did you hear about this?

Stephen King.

wrote a tweet saying your film was good.

He's always writing stuff.

And Stephen King doesn't just endorse literally anything.

No.

Whoa.

He's pissing out novels, though.

Oh, yeah.

Pissing them out.

You can't stop him.

Shawshank Redemption wrote.

Yes, he did.

When you go to Hollywood and you go and you're there and you've sort of seen all the Hollywood people, because that's sort of like our dream too.

And we did it for a time.

Yeah, yeah, I remember.

We came back and COVID happened.

It was things got in the way of us staying there.

I remember waking up every morning in LA, or a lot of mornings, and just rolling over in a sweaty bed.

And

I had the flu for a large period of it.

Yeah, which I think was COVID.

Yeah, it sounds pretty good.

It was COVID.

I couldn't taste for six months.

Really?

I couldn't taste for six months.

And I thought it was related to some mental health stuff I had going on.

And then years, then like months later, they were like, that's a

COVID thing.

And COVID was around and people got COVID.

Broden had a bad flu.

We hung out with the the guy who brought COVID to Australia.

Hollywood was maybe we had COVID.

Hollywood was dope.

Yeah, you liked it?

Not a nice place to live, no.

I don't love it, to be honest.

Every time I'm over there, I find it,

I get sick.

I don't know, something about the food.

I always just get, I always just feel like ill and it's overwhelming, and nobody walks anywhere, and you're always in cars.

And I don't know.

I mean, like, speaking of COVID, I think that was a thing that kind of weirdly evened the playing field for non-locals in terms of the film and entertainment industry, that everything became a Zoom meeting.

And so, I think that it, like, my reps were very much like, you don't need to move here anymore, just everything.

They still, even if you're over there,

they will still zoom for pictures rather than going in here.

Still, just because that's the way of Hollywood life now.

So, do you, when you go, you go to a Hollywood party,

you're there with the glitz and glam of Hollywood, what do you

talk about?

Have you been to many Hollywood parties?

Because we went to one once and we'll probably never go to another one ever again.

No, I think, you know, I got some ideas in my head that maybe I'll, you know.

Yeah.

I'll talk to you.

That'll get you back there.

That's just act one in our wonderful career.

Yeah, yeah.

And Cow.

I'm a good guest on the show.

That'd be great energy.

Cow have, of course, be one of the producers of Together.

On Together, the Hollywood movie that you did.

That's it?

Because we pitch Hollywood movies all the time.

Yes, we do.

Hasn't that quite happened for us yet?

Yeah.

Yeah.

I don't know what you have to do to get it, but I'd love to hear it.

What have you been off?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

What shortcut did you take that doesn't involve spending your own money making something to impress people?

Like your short film.

Well, I mean, yeah,

that helped Rebuted.

But sorry.

Oh, but yeah, Rebut, I remember that.

The Skeleton Man.

Skeleton Man.

Yeah.

Wonderful short.

I remember thinking to myself, he should be working on his YouTube.

He's just throwing away

beautiful online cards.

Oh, my God, yeah.

For what?

For scalping every six months making a video game parody.

I mean, like, the sincere answer is that, like, after

making The Wizards of Oz, the fantastic web series,

Mark and Broden was also in.

And me.

No,

you did, you did make up a character that you said you allegedly cut.

You said, oh, there was a character for you, but then we cut him or something.

You had come up with a lie that I've held to you.

No, no, there actually was.

There actually was.

I know.

But it's crazy because I remember you saying to Mark, hey, I've got an idea.

I've got an idea for a movie, and it's going to be you and Dave Franco.

Did you have to sit Mark down and say, look, Dave wants Alison Bree as the partner instead of Mark?

Was that a tough conversation?

It was, but the truth was, just Mark didn't quite open up the funding possibilities that Alison's involvement did.

Dave also didn't want her.

It was, we all wanted Mark Craig.

I offered to put in 10K.

Yeah.

I offered my own money.

I offered to put 10K.

Not enough.

Not enough for the Docklands, apparently.

No, not even a day at the Docklands, I don't think.

You know that Alison Burry is going to be, even if she didn't put in any money, she's going to be a bigger drawer than you.

Like 10K is not going to cover.

Do you have any idea how many socks I could fit in me?

You want to talk about a big drawer?

All right.

How many socks?

You're saying you're a big drawer full of socks i'm saying if you were to talk about who's the bigger drawer yeah you could i'm saying if depending on how you fold them you could put more socks in me than more socks in you than allison bury absolutely yes you've mistaken though even though the word is the same yeah

you're the fact that you've got a larger um intestinal system than alison bree is irrelevant all right i understand

it sounds like a great segment on fallon though to kind of figure out

shoving socks up his ass.

Allison did Dufallon.

Allison did Fallon.

Allison did.

Fallison did Fallon to promote

promote this movie.

You did a movie.

I do.

So Zach's in his Twilight Years, by the way.

Yeah, I get it.

I did do a Bravo show.

I was on Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen.

Oh, that's amazing.

That's genuinely the most thrilling movie.

I didn't know what it was, but

I was like, I'm doing this thing.

And several of my friends were like, what the fuck are you talking about?

He was a real housewives producer and then well that shows quite sassy isn't it yeah it is a little sassy he he started he started he did the reunion episodes and then he was so good on that they gave him his own talk show what was it like doing that show well the show uh as i understand it has like they'll have the guests usually two and then there's like a bartender who's a sort of like trevor marmalade type situation

like the you know from the footy show trevor marmalade to sam newman and eddie maguire sure yeah i'll take your word for it but what was their name wasn't trevor marmalade the bar person.

Yeah.

I was the bar person.

You're Trevor Marmalade.

Trevor Marmalade.

Trevor Marmalade doesn't resonate with you.

I'm sorry.

That's so funny because I'm not a footy boy.

But you know Trevor Marmalade.

I know fucking Trevor.

I served him once at a cafe on Chapel Street.

Really?

Yeah.

Trevor Marmalade, the footy shows, Eddie Maguire, Sam Newman, and Trevor Marmalade.

I've heard of the footy show.

Tell you something about Trevor Marmalade?

He was behind a bar.

He has an American Express card.

We did.

We don't know who he did.

He did.

I don't know if he still has American Express card money, but he paid with American Express.

And this is back in 2007.

He would have had a bit of money.

TV back then.

How much money do you think Trevor Marmalade had in 2007?

Well, you're a Hollywood guy now.

You know how

you see everybody's back at the end.

I know you don't know, but that bar was always very well stocked.

I think that's imaginable.

I don't think that had anything to do with Marmalade.

He paid for his own.

No, I'm pretty sure that would just be art department.

Agreed or disagree.

I mean, you're Mr.

Hollywood.

You would know how things work.

Well, the bar on Andy Cohen's show was that was all art department.

I thought I was actually going to have to make drinks.

Wow.

Yeah, right.

They said, be camera ready throughout the whole show.

Dave and Allison are the guests, but you need to be ready to be thrown to it anytime.

Wow.

I was thrown to not once.

Wow.

So I just stood there being like, wow.

Did they introduce you?

Yeah, Andy introduced me as somebody completely different.

Like he read off the teleprompter wrong and it was like, and of course, behind the bar,

Andrew Simons or something like that.

It wasn't him, but that was, and so there was somebody like whispered in his ear.

He's like, oh, Michael Shanks.

And I'm way back through to you.

No, and I had so many good singers.

I kept being like, because I was Mike's bar.

Wow.

Wow.

That's insane.

What other shows?

You did Jimmy Fallon.

Are you going to do Corridor Crew?

They would love you.

They would fucking love you.

I've been communicating with them.

Yeah.

Yeah.

If you do that, I will shit my dick.

I love that show.

That is sick.

That's the coolest thing.

That's very cool.

I've met those guys before.

The first time I went to LA, I actually borrowed some costumes off them for wizards because we shot a tiny

tiny little wizard thing in LA because we had an actor over there.

We shot like one half of a scene.

Yeah.

And we just like, I went to Corio because I kind of knew them via just being cool YouTube guys.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And borrowed some stuff.

Someone who was adjacent to them that was on their show recently was wearing an Auntie Donna t-shirt.

Hell yeah.

Say that again.

Someone that is adjacent, they're not part of the crew.

They have another channel.

They're often with the crew doing stuff.

I was watching a video and they were wearing an Auntie Donner guy.

They used to be in corridor crew.

You're telling me one of the corridor crew guys wore an Auntie Donna shirt.

No.

You're telling me that they get too excited.

They were wearing Auntie Donna shirts on the corridor crew.

They get too excited.

One person is.

Okay, so not the corridor crew, but one of the guys on that on corridor, on an on a corridor crew video was wearing the shirt.

Was wearing an Auntie Donna shirt.

On corridor crew?

On corridor crew.

They're not from corridor crew.

Was it on corridor crew?

They're often on corridor crew.

There was a guest on corridor crew.

On corridor crew.

On

corridor crew.

Was wearing a t-shirt.

What was the video?

Was it VFX Artists React?

Yeah, one of them.

I don't know.

I can't remember.

Oh, no, it was a...

Do you know what it was?

It was, Can We Put a Camera in a Bowling Ball?

I watched that video.

Yeah, that was beautiful.

I didn't see it.

Did you see the shirt?

I didn't see the shirt.

See, we got shit going on.

Yeah, fucking bring it up now, cunt.

I'm not lying.

Michael didn't see it.

That's because he was probably...

It's not something that you sit and you watch intensely.

You're doing stuff.

You're doing stuff.

He's going to Hollywood parties.

He's whining and dying.

Dave and Allison.

You think he has time to give a shit about our t-shirt?

Pull your fucking shit together.

If he's watching the video,

you're an aesthetic perceived.

You're looking at the frame of a movie.

You would see a shirt.

It's the mise-en-scene of the video.

But are you telling me?

What do you mean?

Are you telling me?

It's French.

It's French for yum.

It's French for yum, all right?

Now listen.

Listen.

It's French for yum.

You're not sitting there watching corridor crew intensely.

You got it on.

It's on, right?

It's on while you're Jim Jamming on your guitar.

Yeah, yeah.

Playing that this motherfucker can play.

And I'm jamming.

Yeah, like when we were talking about drums.

Because we both play a little bit of drums.

I got a kid.

He's got a kid.

you know, and we're just banging away.

So happy this is coming.

Doing quarter notes.

Oh, my God.

What about those eighth notes?

I don't shut the note.

I don't touch.

Shut the fuck up.

Hey, shut up.

If I'm doing eighth notes, I might as well be doing 16th notes.

Dude, I'm trying to get in with Mr.

Hollywood.

I know.

Shut the fuck up.

This motherfucker.

He's playing what that bam we're talking about.

What is it?

The Dave Grohl was in it at the start.

John Groll, Queens of Stone Age.

This motherfucker's playing Queens of Stone Age.

Schwine, which era?

The whole

Songs for the Deaf.

You're doing Steve Groll stuff.

Yeah, well, that was Steve Groll's album.

Although, I think the only track he didn't play on was No One Knows, and that's the one where he's in the music video for, which is strange.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

But that is a great album for drums.

Incredible.

Songs for the Deaf.

Yeah.

So did he play that?

That's it, the Terminator thing.

I'm doing Dreams Fleetwood Mac.

I'm doing Selfless by the Strokes.

I'm doing Dream Theatre Dance of Eternity.

If you're doing prog, I try to do a bit of Devin Townsend and 10-minute songs.

It's hard now.

All right, so

I got a question about Together, the movie you just released.

Yeah, so you've got a major Hollywood film.

Kind of.

Whoa.

And it's, and it's.

We had a good seven days until Weapons came out.

Oh, Weapons looks good.

Fuck, weapons.

It is.

It's pretty good.

But

it is.

I've heard good things about it.

Again, Ernest.

Go and Ernest for a second.

Bought a ticket to Together.

It's not good to Weapons.

Like, I ain't giving my money.

Yeah, good job.

Bought a ticket together.

Yeah.

It is

when you go see weapons, buy a ticket together.

If we're still in cinematics when this comes out.

Just buy tickets together.

Go see Fantastic Forum.

The director of Together

used being the director of Together to get a free ticket to see Together, and you used that to go and see weapons together.

What do you think?

No,

I paid for the ticket together.

Oh, okay.

So I'm like, I want to give money to the theater, but I can't give it to the competition.

Hell yeah.

My question is, when you pay for your own ticket, to see your own movie and then sneak in and watch another movie because you're a dog, right?

What is the return on that money you've paid that you will then see back in your own pocket?

I'm definitely losing money in the transaction.

Negative, but it's probably sense, like, but an amount, yes, surely there's an amount, or is that not how it works?

I do get something, I do get a little taste, yeah, a little taste,

yeah, nice.

And that's why you go download it when it's available on the download for the $30 download.

I can't remember who did it.

I saw it, it came up in my feed.

Someone released a film recently, and then what they did was they put the torrent up for it themselves and put up the like big, really good, like 8K

5.1 Dobly version of it with a video of him at the start going, hey, you've pirated my movie.

Congratulations.

That's fine.

This is a really good version of it.

And if you want to give us a bit of money, go to this website, payformymovie.com, and then you can donate.

Check with Neon if they'd be cool with that.

I feel like they would.

Yeah, just check in.

Yo, Neon, you'd be cool with this.

My friend Mark had this idea.

I thought that was the coolest thing I'd ever thought about.

I think it's so cool.

I would actually be 100% down with that.

I love it because you can't stop it.

Yeah, Mike.

There's a festival on in Melbourne right now called MyF.

Yes.

Now, I just saw some of the people at MyF yesterday.

I don't really roll in those crews.

Neither do I.

I roll in the footy crew with the footy boys.

With Marmalade.

I was like, who?

Yeah, the Marmalade Boys.

Yeah.

Do you know the Marmalade Boys?

Oh, yeah, of course.

Trevor Marmalade's another boy, but there's some boys called Marmalade.

Anyway, right.

You walked around Miff?

I haven't this year.

You should walk around Miff.

I think that would be funny.

Because you're a big director.

I think that would do.

You would have been...

You had the big

Sydney Film Festival thing was good.

It was an opening night.

Opening night.

Tell them the opening night movie.

It's

well, I...

Tell them what the opening night moves.

It was together.

And tell them who the director is together.

It was Michael Shanks.

Not the Canadian Michael Shanks.

That was me.

Michael Shanks, that's you.

But Ernestine.

You would have been the god of that party.

Yeah.

If you walked around Myth, they would recognize.

Do you get recognized?

uh very rarely if you even missed they would get recognized when i've done a q a at a film screening nice yeah because did you get recognized at the after party of the opening night movie at surface i did i did it was very nice but it was also kind of a nightmare because i imagine

i couldn't move you know yeah um and people kept like my my girlfriend kept coming up to me and being like do you need help kind of signaling me at one point i was locked in with this guy and we couldn't stop talking and she came up and said like do you need help and i was like no no no i'm fine and then afterwards she said was that okay who was that Guys, I was like, oh, that was Alexi.

Yeah, no, he was nice.

We know Alexi from the podcast.

So, Shanks, I've got a question for you about the movie, right?

Please.

It's a fun one going.

He's done real interviews.

I thought I'd do a fun one.

Yeah, yeah.

Throw him a couple.

I think he'll get a kick out of this, right?

So,

now in the movie, there's a photo of a couple.

Oh, yeah.

There's a photo of a couple that have gone through a similar thing as as the main characters.

And

Dave Franco, of course, is the main guy in the film.

And as I'm watching it, tell me, can you explain to me why'd you cast that aggo Dave Franco when you could have cast the hottie in the photo?

Yeah, the guy in the photo is pretty

silly.

Well, Broden hasn't seen it, but he is the star of the film.

It is

Michael Shanks in the photo.

He did an M-Night Shamel on.

Well, it's Alfred Hitchcock's.

Altru Hitchcock.

Yeah, that's true.

Altred Hitcock.

Awesome Wells.

What are you doing?

It was fun.

Zach playing cool.

I'm playing cool.

This is my one fucking shot to get into the Hollywood.

You said Alfred Hitchcock.

Alfred Chitchcock.

Zach, if you treat Michael right, you will be Neon.

I'll be in the Neon.

I'll be Neon.

You could be the next guy in a photo in a movie that has no lines.

I would.

Yeah.

Hit me up.

That's my...

my, that you've heard it here first.

Michael Shanks has promised that I will definitely have a photographic cameo in his next spell.

Have you walked around Myth?

I haven't.

Walk around Myth, man.

I can't lie, like, I have been,

I was, I did something a little thirsty, like, on my final day in LA, where I was.

You had a big jumper juice?

Yeah, I had a big golf.

I was,

I wanted to buy a ticket to the movie in LA.

I just thought, I don't know, that was a movie.

Yeah, it's like Arcly

back or not?

No.

No,

it it was at the Grove.

Oh, the Grove.

That's IMC at the Grove.

It was like Northland Without a Roof.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sorry, listeners, we're talking a little bit inside baseball.

There's the American Doll Factory there as well.

And it's like Northland Without a Roof.

We had like the American, like, real doll.

Yeah, you know, you go and have a tea party with little dolls.

Oh, okay, right.

We had the dollars.

No, no, fuck them.

Okay, well, you could.

We had this thing that kept happening to us where we just kept happening to be in LA whenever Lee Warnell was releasing a new film.

And we've seen a lot of his movies in the cinema dome at

the Arclines, which is no longer there.

But anyway, oh my god, Balty Bridge and like the opening shot.

I was like, this is going to be

a lot of fun.

There's something really cool about watching an Australian film in America.

Like, you feel very proud.

Like, I watched it.

I didn't watch it.

I bought the ticket.

Went to Fantastic Four.

Stop!

Michael!

I love this layer.

He's seen it enough.

I've seen it enough.

You should go to Myth, man.

Yeah.

I think you'd love Myth.

But can I just say, do you see what I did there?

When I asked that question before about the hottie, because Dave Franco's a conventionally a very attractive Hollywood

beautiful man.

He's married to

Alison Breer, conventionally a very attractive Hollywood person, right?

So what I've done there is I've given you a bit of a compliment.

Yes.

A bit of fun.

A bit of an unconventionally attractive man.

No, a bit of fun,

but I thought it'd be nice to give you a bit of that compliment because the photo was of Shanks, you see.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But Zach, I know, man.

What are you doing?

I'm just trying to explain.

Well, I also got to be turned into a prosthetic, which was another reason to kind of, I sort of cast myself in that thing because, well, firstly, it meant we didn't have to pay an actor, which is a warning.

It's a ball warning.

Yeah.

So, yeah, of course.

Of course, that was you.

So, so I had to like fully be, you know, ensconced in goo for 45.

No, no, they made a cast of my head, like a, of my head being like, wow, that is then worn by somebody else who's in kind of a full body.

Francois?

It was Frank Hose.

Michael.

Dave Franco.

That's Grover.

Michael.

I've heard indirectly about some of the cool things that have happened since you've become a Hollywood man.

Can you talk about any of the people you've met?

I can.

It's a hot scoop.

We don't want to get you in trouble with Hollywood.

I'm trying to be real.

What are you doing now?

I don't know.

I don't know.

I don't fuck this up, Dave.

I don't know, man.

Can you, who's like, are there cool people who've reached out and said they like your movie?

David Allison?

I have met David Allison before.

What are you doing there?

Of course.

What?

What do you mean?

Is that he dated in this movie, man?

He directed.

He wasn't.

It's no different to your Myth bit.

Don't act, don't get on some fucking high horse like you're not doing some bit.

You tell me he hasn't been.

He shouldn't go to Myth?

No, you should fucking go to MyF.

He went to World Story.

My brother-in-law, I saw it at Myth yesterday.

They were excited to see us at Myth.

Imagine you going to Myth.

I don't think, is us playing at Myth?

I think that came out a couple years ago.

Not the movie you oath.

Ah, ass, man.

Would you say that Jordan Peel is now one of your contemporaries?

Yeah, yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

You both have your starts in skip comedy.

Can you say Trevor Marmale?

Can you have one again?

Can you have the one again?

About Jordan Peale?

Would you say Jordan Peale is one of your contemporaries?

Nope.

Oh.

Oh,

get out.

That's right.

Get out.

Very good.

Some of the list is probably struggling to follow along.

Those are Jordan Peale films.

It's a bit of a Hollywood thing that we do.

Any cool people apart from these boys messaging?

Sincerely, like the day after I got back from Sundance, I was watching the Royal Rumble

in an apartment

in Hollywood.

Nice.

Wow.

And somebody sent me a text saying, hey, save this number.

It's Robert Danny Jr.

Whoa!

Wow.

And then Joe Hendry had just entered at number 15 in the Royal Rumble.

Yes, fucking hell.

From TNA.

And exactly the TNA World Champion at the time.

And my phone just started going, Robert Danny Jr.

is FaceTiming you.

Doomstar.

I was like, oh, so you got to finish the Rumble.

So you didn't, you paused Joe Hendry?

I paused Joe Hendry.

I don't know how TiVo or whatever works over there.

Had a lovely chat with Robert and his wife.

It was very cool.

By the time it ended, the pause had stopped Mr.

Rumble.

Robert Downey Jr.

FaceTimed you to say he liked the movie.

Yes.

Unbelievable.

And he's playing Dr.

That's the Lots of That's Really.

He has played

Dr.

Doomlitter.

Dr.

Doomlitz.

Did you come back?

Dr.

Doomlittle.

And he also played Dr.

Doolittle.

Did you get back with that Welsh accent?

Yeah.

Did you get back in time for the heel turn?

Were you back on the TV for the heel turn?

No, I saw the heel turn late.

Oh, wow.

I think the heel turn was better than a phone.

But that was Elimination Chamber.

Oh, that's true.

Yeah, that That was a different PLE.

Yeah, absolutely.

I'm sorry.

I got that wrong.

I got muddled up.

Cena turned.

So he's back now.

He is inexplicably.

That's pretty cool that you're going to be able to get a

phone call from Robert Devon.

A couple of weeks later, I had

an encounter with McConaughey.

Wow, wow.

Mud.

Yeah, Mudd.

He had sounds like Mr.

Mudd.

Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2, I think.

Really?

Four?

Four.

Okay, four.

Okay.

Was that early in his career?

Yeah, him and Renee Zelwyn.

They tried to get it like unreleased.

Yeah.

But it did, it then got famous before it came out.

What did he say?

What did he say?

I had a long interaction with.

It's a long story, so I won't go into it.

I will say two things: that the aforementioned Mike Cowup was the person that accompanied me to be like, like to stop freaking out because I had this meeting with Pekanahey about a project.

As a producer, Frankie was a project.

Cow as a producer, yeah.

Was it at like a cafe in the lobby of a hotel?

No.

That's where I imagine all these things.

It was in a private room of like the Marriott in Austin.

Wow.

And as we're going up.

He's living in Texas.

Mike is like, if you run out of things to talk about, I've listened to his book.

He used to live in Sydney.

Here's a thing about his life in Sydney.

Tell him about that.

And I'm like, okay, okay, okay.

And then I spent a lot of time with Mike.

And he commissioned 99, I think.

He would have, yeah, and Wizards of Oz, you know?

He's working with Screen Australia.

Yeah.

So a bit of nepotism.

McConaughey is

a bit of a capitalism.

Together's a bit of a nepo story.

No,

I just think he could have...

What did he do?

No, it was just he worked for Screen Oz and he saw talent support.

That's not how it makes sense now.

He's not related to me now.

He's not related to him.

He's just worked with him in different capacities.

What Mike did was at Screen Australia was identify like young up and coming talent and created like a harem of people who liked him and then like branched out to like produce their stuff in a very good way.

He did a good job of that.

Yeah, he did that thing where he helped people at the start and then didn't just forget about them.

Yeah.

Like the Australian industry loves it.

Yeah, exactly.

So who else?

You got McConnor here, you got Downey?

Oh, no, I'll just pick you around the little Carver roads.

Let him finish the story, bro.

We're in a private room in Austin.

In the Marriott.

This whole story goes for about like 30 minutes.

So I'll do like the one-minute version of the show.

Okay, the assistant comes down and says, Okay, you know, Shanks, you want to come and meet Matthew?

And oh, Mike Howard, would you like to come as well?

He's like, Oh, no,

I'd love to.

Oh, no, I shouldn't.

No, Shanks, you just go in your zone.

You can tell it's like breaking his little heart.

I go up, you know, I have this meeting with Ghana.

It's kind of weird.

Yeah.

You know, I was in the 1960s.

All right, all right, all right.

Yeah, is he a little?

Is this not how he sounds like a little dazed and confused?

Was he a little Dallas Buyers Club?

Yeah, the Dark Tower.

Yeah.

Don't fuck this up for me, Broders.

Anyway, I'm so sorry.

Was he pacing?

I just imagine he paces.

Nah, he was sitting back.

He was sitting back?

Was he sitting back?

He's laid back like that.

That's how he does it.

That's the Hollywood way.

Yeah, yeah.

Texas and New Hampshire.

Did you tell him that pilot in Australia running ads that say he used to be bald and you shouldn't be bald?

I've seen that.

Did you tell him that?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I did tell him.

You shouldn't be bald because Matthew McConaughey isn't.

did you tell him about that i didn't i assume he signed off on that oh yeah oh if not he should reach out and sue me yeah exactly so you got anyway long long story short long long chat with mcconahey wraps up we're trying to we're trying to kind of end it it ends on a slightly kind of weird note i'm like okay i gotta gotta get out of here yeah at the door he's like hey man asked me like yeah thanks matthew thank you as i'm closing the door i just hear running up the corridor excuse me excuse me one minute oh sorry sorry sorry sorry sorry oh matthew sorry i just couldn't come up and not not not talk to you i had to come and meet you oh and i'm like mike we gotta go Mike has just like pounded his way into the interview and he's like oh I heard you used to live in Sydney and he gives the anecdote that he already gave me to tell the

and now McConaughey is being so polite retelling the anecdote that already happened at the beginning of the thing and I'm like we got to go we got to go we gotta go we gotta go we end the meeting I leave and I'm just like God God that ended at such a train wreck and Mike is just like skimming be like can't believe I met Matthew McConaughey can't wait to tell him

so was so was Mike just like downstairs pacing back and forth for half an hour going, no, I should, I should.

He must have called the assistant back and be like, oh, I'm so sorry.

I regret not coming up.

That's funny.

Who else?

Who else?

Who else?

Feed me.

Feed me.

He's led with the big ones.

I have led with the big ones.

I'm happy to get tier three.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, what's the least interesting person that's given you a break?

I'd love to meet Rove.

We know Rove.

We're going to ring Rove now.

Rove's sick.

We hugged him on a bed one day.

We can ring Rove.

He's the whole gang.

I can ring Peter.

I can ring Peter Elliott.

Even I could probably ring Peter Elliott.

Yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, that's fair.

He's not that hard hard to get a hold of, old Pete.

Yeah, Pete will be around.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He's great.

Who have I met?

Gosh.

Damon Harriman, I imagine.

Well, yeah, I did meet him actually.

He was a dream.

He was absolutely wonderful.

I imagine he would be.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

What bits did you film at the Docklands?

Well, there is a cave set.

There's a big set that's a cave.

We built that in Docklands.

And there's also a...

We didn't have it.

I originally thought, hey, we'll build the whole house.

We'll build all the sets.

And then we realized we had no fucking money to make this movie.

And so we had enough to make the cave set much smaller than we wanted to and then we also had to build a bathroom scene that for a shower sequence that was that involves yeah so we we built a little bathroom um and everything else we shot in the house definitely built the school at the buckler yeah yeah the whole the whole exterior school we built

wow we're just

where all the forest oh

this is what everybody needs to

ferntree gully elinda the damn

up in the hills yeah absolutely that's where we shot our dream trailer yeah that's where we fucking shot our dream trailer yeah it is there you go did you you shoot at the park there?

I think I saw you guys there.

That's where we shot the dream trailer.

You should tell Robert Downey Jr.

to come to Drem.

We're doing Drem in L.A.

What's the number of days?

Can we have his number today?

Can we have his number, please?

Last time I texted him, he did not respond.

No.

What did Max do?

Because Max is our director for Auntie Donnie.

He's shot and directed everything we've ever done.

And he did second unit.

Yes.

Yeah, which is kind of like crumbs.

You kind of throw someone someone a bit of crumbs.

It's quite a substantial little meal in the film.

It is, it is, it absolutely is.

And what did he shoot?

Well, so there.

Was there haze?

I didn't know.

Does he love it?

I love a bit of haze.

Oh, God, we can't fucking get him to haze.

He loves haze.

I love haze too.

It's great.

Yeah, you fucking people with your haze.

It just adds depth, you know?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, there was a...

I didn't want to do any second unit in the film because I wanted to direct the whole thing.

But from a scheduling point of view, there was one scene where it was going to be impossible for sort of the alpha director to be in two-place.

Did you put him in his face though?

Did you go, you're a little bitch, am I a little bitch, Max?

I was like, hey, Max, how was that Netflix show a few years ago?

Welcome to my film set.

Yeah, yeah.

Nice.

What'd you shoot on?

Oh my god, video.

Nice.

It was a Sony Venice.

They love the Sonys these days.

That's Italian.

Well, the reason that we did it is.

Shut up with this Italian shit.

It is.

It's a collab between the Japanese and the Italian, the Sony Venice.

It's very wet.

You're talking about the canals of the place.

I don't know, man.

But no, it makes sense because there is a little Venice in Tokyo Disney Sea.

So it's all coming together.

Have you seen them together?

It's all coming together.

Have you heard they've built canals?

Have you heard they've built canals in Mars?

It's proved there's Martians.

Thank God.

What do you do?

Well, they've built canals.

You look through a telescope.

You can see canals in Mars.

That's right.

Are there gondolas in 100 years?

Probably.

I won't believe it.

There's gondolas.

There's gondolas.

There's surely for

it stands the reason and Martian Bennett.

Do you want to talk about your thoughts on the space gondolas in Star Wars episode two?

Mark,

shut the space god in Star Wars episode two.

In the boo when Padme and Anakin get in a boo.

They're in a gondola and it's slightly futuristic.

And I wanted to get...

This is a man who's making Hollywood.

I just wanted to know what camera they shot on.

You reckon they faked the Moon Land League, bro?

Because you know now you'd have the inside scoop.

Oh, I met Matt Johnson from Devine of the Band the show.

Here we go.

He's going to get this man from from Operation Avalanche to tell him.

I'm going to talk about Faking the Moonland.

Burns Pays.

This is his

favorite show.

I met him and Jay, actually.

They were really nice.

Jay, Jay messages us.

Jay's coming to our show.

Oh, fantastic.

What's the movie like?

Really?

The movie is

the second best movie of the year.

Like, by Polly Williams.

Nice, nice, nice.

No, it's good.

You've got to see it.

Nirvana the Band, the show, the movie.

Can I just say to the audience quickly, you hear that.

This is, if you want to get lessons in how to break Hollywood.

this is a fever drink

if you want to hear the how to break into hollywood you got to hear that he wanted to say it was the best movie of the year but he knew he's here promoting a movie so he said second best movie of the year he's getting in with the boys at the nirvana band show but he's also promoting his movie that's the kind of hustle you have to deliver and if you want who are you talking i'm talking to our listener if you want more inside hollywood scoops you've got to get on our patreon.com where we're going to give you the inside scoop of how to make it like in hollywood we've had a hollywood show our friend here has had a Hollywood movie.

We're going to help you.

You just got to get on that Patreon for the inside scoop of how to make a Hollywood show.

But he's got a fucking point, man.

But Zach's speaking truth, dude.

He's dropping truth bombs.

And you're there being like denial, denial.

You cunt did a tangent about Venice gondolas.

Can I tell you something for a second?

Can I tell you something for a second?

Can I tell you?

I'm shame that these people.

Because he's got his Matthew and his Robert stories.

I've got a story I'd like to share.

Yeah, sure.

So I'm driving around.

Speaking about Hollywood.

What about Woody and Buzz Are you?

So I know.

Toy story?

No, no.

Cunt.

So I'm driving around.

Mark, listen to me.

Yeah.

Even if this story is not about Hollywood, Mark, don't shoot Mark.

Hey, hey, hey, you know what?

Shoot me.

I fucking dare you.

Pull the trigger, shoot at my head.

I knew it wasn't loaded.

Don't do it again.

Don't do it again, please.

Don't do it again.

No, don't do it again.

Because now there's

a pulling in the chambo on the nerve con.

Can I create that?

Sorry, Mark.

Because this is, we've all got.

This is why I'm here.

We've all got stories.

Mark.

I got one.

Marty, before you tell the story, can you remember that our one last shot at season two of Netflix is standing in front of us?

Don't worry.

Don't worry.

So make sure the story has a little bit of Hollywood glitz and glam.

This has got the Hollywood and it's got the,

I'm going to butter him up a bit.

So,

sorry.

So I'm driving around.

I've got a friend.

He's a musician.

Puppy Mountain.

Nice.

His EP is coming out soon.

It's called Soft.

He's got a track, first single, it's called no reason we're we're driving around i've got no reason yeah grinspoon no no no no it goes no reason no reason it's an edm track okay right and uh we're driving

drug music yeah yeah and we're shooting uh we're shooting this film clip we got no money we're shooting on mini dv ever heard of it i have i used to i used to shoot on that when i made my little shows in high school i love mini dv you know i love it

mate don't you make me ever you fucking try and stop me talking about mini dv i'll come at you listen to me listen 9-11 is mostly in DV.

Yes, right, yeah, okay.

Found footage of 9-11 is in DV.

What?

Listen to me.

He knows what DV is, he made a Hollywood movie.

Mark, you listen to me, man.

I said you butter him up.

I said you do Hollywood, but if you're just buttering him up for yourself, you gotta bring us along for the ride.

Yeah, don't worry.

Tell him about my footy pot.

No, he listens, mate.

He's football.

Don't worry, just let me tell him, butter and butter him up.

Butter him up, Jesus.

So we're driving around.

I'm shooting this film clip for him, for his thing.

Shooting on mini DV.

We're going to have money.

And we're going down.

We go down to the Williamstown Botanical Gardens.

Oh, you guys get some nice.

That's where I used to get drunk when I was 14.

Now this folds in.

We're driving around Williamstown.

Now I'm not a fucking idiot.

I know this cunt.

I know this cunt.

Grew up in Williamstown.

We drove past Williamstown High School.

Now he's just sinner.

Where I went to school?

My friend, he's a sinner.

Williamstown High School.

Now, my friend, he's a cinephile.

He loves his movies.

No, not just Michael.

My friend Puppy Mountain loves it.

Just saw together.

We're talking about together, talking about how great it is.

Talking about how you landed that plane.

You did land that plane.

What a great fucking ending.

What a great fucking thing.

Couldn't do that on 9-11.

No.

They were trying.

Shut up about fucking 9-11.

Turn, shut the fuck up.

Shut the fuck up about Mini DV, Cunt.

They were trying.

It was just an accident.

Yeah.

So we're driving around.

We drive past William Towns High School.

And I turn to my friend and I go,

Michael Shanks.

went to high school.

Michael Shanks being the director of Together and we were just talking about together before.

Yeah.

And he goes, wow.

He's like, that's pretty cool.

I'm like, yeah.

So we're shooting, you know, shooting some stuff.

And we're in the botanical gardens.

And I go, I reckon Michael Shanks,

when he was younger, probably would have walked around here, done some stuff, done some stuff around you.

And he goes, wow, wow, that's cool.

And then he wanted to get ice cream afterwards, but I was like, I'm too tired.

So I didn't let him get ice cream.

We drove him through Williamstown.

We drive past a couple of Gelati shops.

And I go, what the fuck is this story?

And I go to him, I turn to my friend, I go, I reckon Michael Shanks at some point would have gotten Gelati from one of these shops.

And at that point, my friend turned to me and was like you go, shut, can you shut the fuck up now?

You've been doing this all day.

We've been wheels down for an hour and a half, and you have not stopped doing that.

And I went, yeah, all right.

And then I have not spoken to him about you since.

And Broden and Zach are fucking awesome.

Tell him, I folded you in.

Tell him we'd be good.

We're good at.

He's all buttered up now, man.

You can ask him for whatever you want, people.

And also, I don't know if you know, but grousehouse has a podcast network and both brunan and zach have incredible podcasts on those shows oh yeah yeah

on those shows tell him tell him about i am dude i have just i'm knee-deep in butter at the moment i this dude is a slippery buddy buttery boy i want to i want to use that butter to season some popcorn yeah fuck yeah and you can go buy a ticket to together and go and see whatever you want just watch whatever you want this is the system should i i'll go see it tomorrow morning

At Pentridge.

Okay, cool.

Beautiful cinema.

It has genuinely become, because I know you say you had a good run until weapons came out, whatever.

Any fucking bullshit I follow on Instagram to help just pass the time of, you know, just how

it's just fucking time, just get through it, right?

Yeah.

Until I'm asleep, which is just a blessing.

Together is coming up as

best one of the best films of the year,

horror films of the year.

It's being put right fucking up there, man.

And quite genuinely, to have

someone who has been, he is just, I think we would all agree here.

No, I'll do my own genuine bit.

Thank you very much.

You can have, I, I'm 50% of this genuine is mine.

You do not want him.

Throw him under the bus.

All right.

He has to do his own genuine.

You have to do your own genuine.

But, Michael, you are someone who has been just making stuff since you were young.

This is

this is the just the path you have always been on, and it is so fucking cool to just see someone who has just been working hard make this fucking movie and it'd be fucking sick and it's awesome and congratulations.

Thank you so much.

That's good.

Don't shoot me.

Fuck, that was a good genuine and this cunt started shooting stuff on mini TV.

I did.

And now he's shooting on Italian Japanese cameras.

Sony Venice with the Rialto detaching everything.

Wow.

Yeah.

My genuine being:

if you give me a part in your next movie, I will suck you off.

You don't have to do it.

No, no, go back, go back.

Let me have another go.

Let me have another go.

I'll suck you on.

Let me have another go.

Let me have another go.

Oh, God.

As I sat down in cinema to watch your beautiful movie,

I felt my

cry.

No, actually,

no, I've set it up as a bit.

I'll just tell you after.

No, I'll do it for real.

I had a very big thrill when Rucker Raka started making really good movies, right?

But I only ever met them once at a VidCon.

I also spent time with them at a VidCon.

But I don't, I don't even know if I met them as much as I walk past them.

But I've always been like, it's so cool that our generation are making movies now.

And I feel so proud and excited and that they're good is incredible.

But to be like, to sit in that cinema and the photo of you,

there's a photo, the photo of you pops up a lot.

Yeah.

Right?

And when the photo first popped up, as much as it needs to, like, it was a bit indulgent.

It was a bit much.

No, no.

The first time it popped up, I was like, holy fuck.

Oh, my God.

Because I forgot you'd done it.

It was you.

Like, I was sitting and watching a Hollywood movie, and then your photo popped up.

I'm like, oh, fuck, I know the guy that made this.

And I thought, wow, that really took me out of it.

Hopefully, that photo doesn't pop up more.

And it kept coming back.

And every time I've been, holy fuck,

holy fuck.

And I just keep getting drawn in, promptly drawn in, like real, real movie, real movie.

Yeah.

And then your face would pop up.

I'd be like, what the fuck?

I know that guy.

And then it'd go back.

You're yelling this in the movie at Hoyts.

Yeah, there were some nice couples being spooked.

Some nice couples in this late season at Hoyts getting spooked.

And then every time this innocuous photo would show up, one of the men in the cinema would go, Fuck, I did a collab with him in 2017.

I did a collab, and he made it.

And then, and then it'd go back.

And then you didn't get to see the ending because I imagine you were escorted out.

Escorted out of the cinnamon.

But I've been told that the ending is wonderful.

I think I fucked up that genuine bit.

No, thank you.

I'm very, before we get to Roden's genuine thing, I just want to say, like, you know, I'm so proud and impressed of the work that you guys are doing.

And I'm so lucky that I've got to make this film.

And the racker racker have made the film, and I just don't think we give enough credit to the slot, which was all about launching.

Here's the slot!

Can we talk about the slot?

Can we talk about it?

I came so close to wearing my crew hoodie from the slot that I found last week to this recording.

And I'm Sean doing it.

Sean, comedy channel.

People know the slot.

You know what it is.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Let's explain it just in case anyone.

Episode seven was called Michael Shanks.

One of the episodes was called Auntie Donna.

Was it?

I believe you were offered to host the show.

No, no, that was

Christian and Adele's.

They would have killed us.

Okay, okay.

But no, the slot was like, we all made some videos for a sketch show for Foxtel.

It was, let's get the hottest talent from the internet and put them on a paid TV service that not a lot of people watch.

Not really bring any sort of sense of cohesion to it.

Very little money to make anything.

Yeah.

We just, we shot a few sketches for it.

Yeah.

I think once we've all done a show, a movie,

once we've all done a

high, like a really well-made, beautiful horror movie, pressure's on us.

Two out of two so far.

Two for two.

Well, three for three, but they've done it.

They've done it twice, yeah.

Two for two, like fucking stick in the landings here.

But when we make a

beautifully shot horror movie, all of us together.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then when who else did the slot?

Michael Cuzak, he's doing a lot of good stuff he does the slot

he has to do it jenna and vic are in it jenna and vic so once everyone's done their their horror movie yeah package it up make a box set

the slot series yeah the slot series nice you got you got

beautiful horrific exploration of grief from rakaraka you got this beautiful horrific exploration of codependency from you you'll have a beautiful horrific exploration of i don't know we'll figure it out and you package it up you go the slot.

And you have a little booklet in it, and you go, where these folks, and it's kind of like

those magical bars or like, you know, those things in history.

It's like, can you believe they used to all go to this

Greenwich Village for folk music?

Can you believe they're all going to the same bar?

Can you believe they're all doing the slot?

Your movie's about codependence.

I like to say that.

I like to say that a relationship

is like an uppercase uppercase H,

not like an uppercase A.

Yeah, no, that's actually a very good one.

Burden loves.

You love this.

I love it too.

You love this.

Two letterology.

Two standing.

Two standing pillars that are connected is an H, but can stand on their own.

And the other one is A, leaning on one another, but are connected, unhealthy, because if one falls, the other falls.

Broden.

I can't wait to see the movie.

Now, imagine if that A.

Imagine if that A got all fucked up.

Imagine if that A turned into an A.

That's how I bitched it.

Yeah.

I think of a relationship as an H or an A.

Yeah, but imagine if that

turned into an I'm not going to face it.

You've got to, I'm doing something so

you're ignoring me and it's really upsetting me.

Sorry, I said it so.

I'm just saying.

If I say it a third time to no audience, can I just do my bit and then a left road and pull that fucking trigger and just take me out?

Do your bit.

Spoiler warning, though.

You've got to spoil a warning.

I'll do my bit.

Oh, yeah.

Imagine if that A, look, you got a choice.

We've got to stop this podcast.

Oh, yeah, it's been going for ages.

You do your bit.

You do your bit, but spoiler warning.

Nah, it's gone.

I was a good bit as A to I.

Well, yeah.

And then,

yeah, I don't know.

But it's a spoiler.

Can I give a spoiler warning?

You can give a spoiler warning.

I wrote two reviews on Letterbox after I watched it.

I deleted my first one and then I wrote a more deleted.

Not for me.

Yeah, Doctor Nextra star.

Not for me.

no i wrote i wrote this is a this is a spoiler warning so skip 30 seconds i wrote damon herriman kind of does look like two people smooshed together

somebody else said that to me

he's in ned really does

he's in abe forsyth's ned he is i love ned and computer boy yeah

you once gave me comm tickets to a show of yours under the name oh yeah i got you four tickets under computer boy yeah

he does that yeah he makes you have to ask silly sausage you have to ask for computer boy I think I think I've got tickets under

I will say I uh they vech all that shit um but I will say I'm very I watch a lot of media and you are being lauded and the thing is being it's legit and it might not feel like it you're in it like I hope you do feel this but you are genuine zeitgeist right now and you are genuinely perceived by everyone as an immense success.

Oh, thank you so much.

And you might take a while for the swelling to go down for for you to ever recognize that, but you really are.

You really have made it, and you should know that.

You probably do feel like that with the massive, successful international film with the sale to a massive producer.

One of the hottest,

coolest fucking distributors.

But if you have a lot of people, it might feel condescending me saying that, but it genuinely does feel like that.

And you should be immensely proud.

And also, like, check out the Footypod.

Yeah.

Yeah, the Footy Pod.

Mission Zach, you know, Mission Zach.

Leg Guizama Ama or whatever it's called.

Oh, yeah.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You met John Leguazamo yet?

I haven't.

But, you know, a boy can dream.

Yeah.

But, yeah, Zach's right, enjoy the ride because it's like a roller coaster, mate.

You're going up right now,

but it's going to go down.

I mean, yeah, yeah.

But but when you directed that Bunnings ad?

Did I direct a Bunnings ad?

Or you did maybe SFX on it?

You know, probably more.

I did do a lot of special effects on Bunnings ads.

Yeah.

What special effects you guys did on Bunnings ads?

No, they're not real people.

He put like a trestle table table in and shit.

Is that right?

I don't even remember.

I remember this about you.

Remember when you did the Boxing Day ad?

Shut up.

Cricket one?

Yeah, I did.

I did do the cricket ad.

That was my high point as a commercial director before I realized I'm not good at directing commercials.

I reckon that's good.

But not a lot.

What would you prefer to be?

If you can only pick one, would you prefer to be good at ads or movies?

Ads.

Make more money.

Go and see.

Everyone who's listening to this.

Genuinely go and see this or buy it or download it illegally.

No, buy it if you can.

Now, the man sitting next.

next to

it.

The man sitting next to us has said, has said this thing about buying tickets to the movie and seeing something else.

I haven't seen weapons yet.

I can't talk for weapons.

But if you're thinking of buying a ticket to Together and going to see Fantastic Four, think again.

Just go see Together.

It's better than Fantastic Four.

Thank you.

And I'd clarify, don't do the ticket thing for another independent film.

Just the studio.

Yeah, just the studio.

Just the studio films.

Hey, congratulations.

Zach.

This is going to be our last time.

I can't wait to see you off, go off to Hollywood.

Be so proud of you, brother.

Zach was so.

I'll see you on set.

Zach was very excited for you to come today.

You dressed up.

I dressed up all the time.

And you heard it here first.

Zach Rowan will, at minimum, be a phonograph in.

No one said that's a movie.

Good night, Australia.

Thanks, Michael.

And thank you, Michael.

Thank you, guys.

Thank you.

Appreciate it.

Love you all.

We'll end the episode there, but I saw you having a look

at that piece of paper.

Do you want to read?

Do you want to say it's me, Michael Shanks, and then read the post roll?

I'd love to.

That'd be great.

What's up, you crazy cats and kittens?

It's Michael Shanks here.

And look, seriously, if you've been sitting on the idea of launching your own online store for a while, now the time.

Fuck.

Yeah, no, it's not that easy.

It's not that easy.

It's not that easy.

Yeah, one more show.

It's all right, mate.

You don't have to if you don't want to.

This is a big opportunity, Zach.

For us.

Yes.

Yeah, okay.

Hey, everybody, this is Mr.

Hollywood, Michael Shanks.

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Very quickly, we have ended it.

Shanks, I just, as you were reading that, I had an image in my head of the Reddit comments being like, oh, I just wish Jack hadn't been so silly.

If anyone wants to listen to a real interview with you about your actual filmmaking process, what's some good ones you've done that people can get?

Oh, I did one with Alexi on his show.

Yeah, so Alexi will have done a good one.

Yeah, yeah.

We talked about some fun movies, talked about science by Em Night Shamelin.

One of my favourite films.

So if you didn't like us being goofs and gaggers and you want to hear him talk somewhere, don't worry about what they think.

Go listen to Alexi Tolopoulos as their podcast will be.

You've been listening to the Auntie Donner podcast.

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See you next week.