First Boy - Fishing Month Part #1

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We get outdoors, we reconnect with nature, and we go fishing, try and catch ourselves a little bit of dinner.

And some absolutely crazy, wild things come up.

Because when you're out in the wild, with a couple of wild boys,

things get a little ishy

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Well

you know we've done a couple of firsts on this podcast fuck haven't we?

Fuck

first fuck we never fucked on the podcast.

No, we've never done the first

podcast.

We've never fucked on the podcast.

I think it's been done.

Write that down.

If there is a podcast where someone fucked, stop listening to this.

And go listen to that.

I think there is one.

At least one.

I think there's many.

Yeah, but we'll get to that, Mark.

You're introducing what we're doing.

Was I?

Yeah.

Oh.

Ah, no, he's thrown me.

Shall I?

No,

no, just leave it with me.

I want to.

I just think it's important.

There's probably a lot of

background noise and stuff.

The audio is probably a bit more.

Oh, fishing, fishing, fishing, fishing, fishing.

Fishing.

Fishing?

Well,

there's a middle ground.

I've done a lot of firsts on this podcast.

First car

podcast?

Yeah.

First standing podcast?

Is that fair to say?

Yeah, yeah.

Wow.

What other ones?

Boat.

Boat.

First boat podcast.

How could we forget?

First comedy podcast?

Yeah, one of.

One of.

No.

Zach, one of.

Dozens.

There were dozens before us.

Yeah, but that's still one of.

Dozens.

If I've got a dozen eggs, one of the eggs is one of them.

So what's this one fishing that's right to everybody listening I reckon a lot of people are watching you know you maybe saw a cool trailer for this

thought how do I how how how do I how do I how do I get on that so a lot of you are probably watching maybe on the patreon if that's how we're still delivering videos you're watching on the patreon

But some of you might be listening and I want you I want to describe to you the visual what what you would be seeing you know as you sit in your you know wherever

home we are not sitting around a table we do not have microphones in front of us rather we are sitting on outdoor fold-out chairs our microphones are clipped to our shirts and in our hands

In our hands is not an ad read.

No, in our hands is one fishing rod each

because we're just a couple of blokes, three blokes,

lads, three lads,

three blokes, three lads

who sure they might live in the city now

but but we wanted to just take it easy get away from the hustle bustle of the city life

sit down and do some gosh darn fishing.

Yeah, maybe rather than going to a...

Maybe rather than going to your local Coles or your Woolworths

or your fishmonger,

go out

and rather than say,

oh, can I get 500 grams, can I get a kilo of

whatever's on special, flat eggs, cod, cod, trout,

chicken breast.

Yeah, if you're at a variety store.

Dove soap.

Dove soap.

Well, I don't think you can catch your own dove soap.

Oh, you can if you have enough fat.

Have you seen Fight Club?

So what we've done instead is we've thought, well, why don't we, instead of going to the shops, that was where this idea started, we were going to do the first podcast at the shops.

Yeah, ordering food and ordering groceries for dinner at the shops.

And we couldn't get a sponsor for that.

So we thought, well, instead of

the first podcast where you see someone buying their lunch,

well, we thought, why don't you see the first podcast or listen to the first podcast where they catch their lunch

and that's what we're doing here today so it's gonna be it's it's that on one level

it's also an examination of

when you're 450 odd episodes deep into a

podcast

What do you do?

What do you think?

This is, we are doing the

podcast trio equivalent of a couple exploring knife play.

When you're at.

When you're at the bottom of the barrel.

And nothing.

No care, nothing.

But we are dragging the knife across each other's skin.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because how do you find that excitement anymore?

No.

He's right.

You need to go to more extreme places to find that passion,

to find that drive.

And sexual deviancy in the bedroom, I think, is akin to having a comedy, an improvised comedy podcast.

So this is

the equivalent of impact play.

So we've gone down.

So we've gone down to a sort of deserted area of the coastline in Melbourne.

There are no chock fudge brownies in sight here, Brondin.

What did I say?

Deserted

area.

There are no ice cream stores in the middle.

No,

you mistake my meaning of the word deserted.

Right.

What do you mean?

Because I get deserted after dinner.

Is that the act of having deserted?

We go out and we get deserted, me and my wife.

We'll have a nice meal and then we go, it's time to get deserted, go down there.

Yogi.

Get a cup of yoghurt.

There's no point arguing with him as a fool.

I'm not.

We're not arguing, are we?

Are we having a fun?

I'm mad at you.

Really?

That's just because you haven't caught anything yet.

They're biting today, though.

So that is right.

We are fishing right now.

I'm trying to get a snap of it.

Maybe we'll include it in the edit.

I think it'll cross the wide shop behind us.

Now,

how do you feel, 400?

This is a great time to check in and just say, how do you feel?

Do you feel like it's stronger than ever?

Or is the fishing kind of represent

maybe we need to stop and rethink, look at what we're doing with this?

When we started this this in the first ever episode we did in a small cubby house at the original stupid old studios in Brunswick,

just talking into some microphones, hoping for the best,

uploading them to SoundCloud.

Crossing our fingers.

Crossing our fingers and hope there's a helicopter coming over.

But that's part of just being outside.

How do you do you think we're just going from strength to strength or do you think...

I don't see this so much as a step up or a step down.

I see it as a reset

it's nice to just relax with my blokes yeah and do something do do connect because I was gonna ask

what are your memories

of fishing sure if you have any have you been fishing before where have you been fishing before who did you connect with on on that level yeah that's a great question mark because because for me oh sure sure sure well I was just gonna say fishing is when fishing is when you you cut the you cut the act

you cut the shit

right

no more hiding behind your the mask of daily life it gets stressful you know it does get stressful you gotta hold it together for your missus this is where we get

metaphorically this is where we get nude And we can get nude if you want.

If it's feeling like it's not going anywhere and we need to, you know, pull another card out of the desperation pile

we could all get naked here we could all get nude I don't think this is a desperation moment I think this is a

you you say desperation I say relaxation you know sure I would love to get a fish what's more relaxing than being nude in a natural body still quite self-conscious you know we're we're across from one of the largest ports in in the metropolitan area

more power that we've got the we've got a lot of uh people walking past uh um we're recording this here at the Walmies.

I see the Westgate Bridge in view.

There's a lot of people looking, and I think,

sure, in theory, being nude might be relaxing, but I worry that if I were to get nude, we'll get to what's happened with you there, Mark, in a second.

I worry that getting nude would actually make me feel stressed because I'd be breaking the law.

Now, Mark, do you want to talk about what's happening there with your fishing rod?

Oh, no, you're just having a small malfunction

where waves are coming in, but we'll get to that.

Well,

I think

it's probably right to say that there are no

hooks or bait.

I would like to keep the illusions going.

All right, because my rod got some fishing line caught in it earlier.

Yeah.

Doesn't even, I can't even, I can't even twirl it around, make it go up and down.

Yeah.

But just then the whole real part of the rod, you know, you got the rod, you got the real.

I think it's all real.

It's funny when you say real.

Yeah, like tangible, yes.

Broden.

R-E-E.

Broden B.

E-E-L.

Who at his core is a theater actor?

When he hears real, he hears R-E-A-L.

Real.

Oh, that's what you're searching for when you're on the stage.

Now, when I hear real

as a film buff,

I hear R-E-E-L.

Sure.

But I see a real of 70mm film, maybe Quinton Tarantino's

Hateful Eight.

Me,

I see my Instagram feed, and I see all the great reels that bring me joy at 2 a.m.

when I can't sleep.

And I'm just fucking endlessly, endlessly scrolling through them.

Oh, I might have a bite there.

Oh, you got a bite?

Oh, yeah, they're biting tonight.

No.

I haven't chatted with you guys like this in years.

It's nice to just switch off.

Reconnect.

It gives a quality to...

I'm sure this podcast is a very different quality to what people people are probably used to us going,

rah-rah, rah.

Oh no!

I used to just switch off and not, you know.

What's your earliest fishing memory, Zach?

Probably the jetty, the jetty at

Cows.

Down the end of the jetty at Cow's with my family.

Something.

Oh.

My rod's back.

I fixed it.

I'm sharing.

Sorry, sorry, sorry.

I was very excited because my rod's back.

I fixed it up.

That's fine.

I don't know how.

Now, Mark, you interrupted.

Zach was about to really open up with the lads and you just sort of share a cool story of him and the boys.

Or maybe why he is.

Or the OG boy, my dad.

Stan is the OG boy.

You know, like when you think about your boys,

who's the first boy?

You know, who's the first of your boys?

It's your dad.

Okay.

What do you mean?

It's all about just hanging out with the boys, you know?

But what do you mean by first boy?

Who's the first boy?

You know,

hanging out with the boys?

You're just chilling with the boys?

Right now I'm chilling with the boys.

Who is the first boy?

Who was your first boy?

Jesus.

But he wasn't the first.

No, who taught you about the boy?

Who taught you about the boy Jesus?

I feel like I just always knew.

No, no, you were taught by dad.

But he did turn bread into fish or something.

That's.

okay it's all cyclical is what I'm saying

he didn't have a boy his boy was up in heaven his first boy

his first boy his first boy was up in heaven god god is his first boy is my first boy your first his dad no unless you met my dad first

So I guess what you're saying is everyone has a different first boy.

No, no.

No.

Everyone's first boy is their dad, except for Jesus,

because his first boy was actually Joseph.

Because Jesus didn't meet his dad.

Well, he knew his dad.

It depends on you.

But then everyone does have a different first boy if it's your dad.

Not my dad.

It's not my dad.

No, no, no, I'm not saying it's your dad.

If everyone's first boy is their dad, then that's a different first boy.

My first boy is different to your first boy.

No, it's your dad.

Yeah, but it's not your dad.

No.

So it's a different boy.

But it's the same.

It's the same category of boy.

I share a first boy with my brother.

Yes.

Right, so not everyone has a...

Different first boy.

So everyone...

Everyone...

What?

Not every boy has a different first boy.

Some people have the same first boy.

Yeah, some people have the same first boy.

Yes, siblings, exclusively.

No.

Half-black.

What about, I would argue the first boy is maybe a doctor who delivered a male doctor.

He's not one of your boys.

He's zaman you.

He's zamanu,

you know.

Oh, they're biting.

Ooh.

So the first, so,

because what in your life, Zach, what does a first boy come to mean to you?

Because to me, it means something pretty different.

No, first boy was a concept I introduced.

Yeah.

And my definition of first boy is a dad.

Yeah, right.

So you can't tell me first boy means something else.

First boy is boy.

I mean, I...

Language is ever changing, Zach.

You don't own the phrase first boy.

But

did you ever use the term first boy before?

I've said it a couple times, I think mostly by accident.

But I have said first boy, I've said those words for sure in a sentence before.

Yeah, I'm sure I've said first boy, but the concept of a first boy being a dad.

Well, I have a friend whose name is boy.

And one time I was...

It was who was going to go through the door first.

You have a friend called Boy?

yeah I have a friend whose name is boy I think you're lying they're Dutch boy

their name is boy hello it's me boy and there was one time we went out for dinner and opened the door and everyone said who should go first and I went oh first boy

not true yeah that's not even how you would no but it is a scenario that could have happened because there is anyone's called boy no there is their name is boy boy genius i think the a scenario would be um let's look at the box office for new Zealand at the moment.

Let's see what local films are doing well in the box office.

There you go.

But you would just say

first boy.

By Tycha Wood TT.

Ah, first.

First boy.

Coming first boy.

Yeah, that could happen.

But do you understand?

When I say first boy, I mean it as

a phrase or a word for your dad.

Mark, would you be open to saying that maybe you didn't

you never used the phrase first boy before?

Mark said first boy.

In that context.

I don't want to lie

to anyone.

So if I were to say I've never said first boy before, I feel like that would be a lie.

But when have you used first boy?

Because I'm putting to you that the Dutch friend called boy is something you've made up.

No.

He is real.

Do you have any proof of this man?

He was the man of honor at my wedding.

Was he there when you were born?

Boy.

Boy.

No, I'm older than boy.

So then first, boy, is not your first boy.

He was the first boy I met named Boy.

That's your first boy.

He's the first boy.

Have you met any other boys?

No one called boy.

So you've never met anyone else called boy.

Not a boy.

Boy, he's the only boy.

Yeah, I guess I have an only boy.

No, but

that's to say that he will never meet another boy.

But

sure, when he meets a second boy, only boy becomes first boy.

And I'll be happy to add another definition to first boy.

You know, I'm happy to add a two.

So at the moment, he's only boy.

So right now, you've got the dictionary definition.

You look up First Boy.

As First Boy, noun, father, indicating the first of your boys.

Two,

what an only boy becomes when you meet a second boy.

I'm so happy to concede that.

Yeah.

Hey, agree to disagree.

Yeah, isn't that great?

If this was in the podcast studio,

we'd be at each other's throats.

But here out fishing,

you know, there's something a little more foundational.

Because when was the last time you were out in the wilderness?

I wouldn't call this the wilderness.

Why?

Why not?

Because I can see the Westgate Bridge.

I can see two major crater ships being loaded up.

I can hear a school bell.

You're not mentioning the seagull.

The seagull.

You're not mentioning Lucy.

I can see a man fishing over there.

I can see a gigantic factory within walking distance.

Well, that's the gas power station, the Newport power station.

Who my dad used to

work with?

Your first boy.

My first boy.

My first boy, dad.

Well, you shouldn't have to say dad.

Yeah, because we all understand the definition.

If you're so stringent on your first boy thing.

But no, dad is my first boy.

Yeah, but you should be able to say my first boy worked over there.

My first boy, his name is Dad.

No, your first boy's name is Stan.

To you?

But I call him Dad.

To him, he calls him dad.

Is your mum's name mum?

Or do you say I call her mum?

Do you know what I mean?

To me?

Who's mum?

Your mum.

My mum.

Yeah.

If I was to say Leon is my mum, her name is Leone, but I call her mum.

Her title is mum.

So if you call her mother, I call her mum.

What's your mum?

Madalena.

Madalena.

I know her as Madalena.

My mum, your mum, I know as mum.

Excuse me?

He knows your mum as mum.

I know her as mum.

You call my mum mum?

We all do.

Would you call my mum now and call her mum?

I'm here.

Yeah, papa.

No, I don't feel comfortable.

You want to call Leone and call her mum?

No, I don't feel comfortable with that.

She's just on the Gold Coast visiting my auntie.

I don't feel comfortable calling Leone and saying, mum.

I hope you understand.

Call her.

No.

I'd give it a go.

I want to be honest with you.

I was lying.

You don't call her mama?

I call her Leone, you feel anything?

Oh, hello.

Yeah, usually.

But my dad, the first boy for me, my first boy.

Dad, my dad.

My dad.

Your first boy.

My dad, my first boy.

I just think it cuts through.

Stan.

I think it cuts through that whole...

pontificating around

you're saying it's first boy I've made this phrase it's this and that but you are undercutting it by both calling him dad and Stan after calling him first boy.

So, my dad is my first boy,

yeah, I know that, and I know him as first boy dad.

You don't call him first boy, dad.

Well, I do.

What's he saved as in your phone?

Dad,

dad, Rwain, Dad, Rwane, yeah, why did you need to specify Rwain

because

if I ever met another dad

because he's my first first dad.

Yeah.

In Mark's first boy sense.

Yeah, because

my first boy is a boy called boy.

My first boy in Zach's world is my first dad.

What?

So if I met a man named Dad,

my only dad.

No one's called me.

My first boy, dad.

My first boy, dad, is my only dad.

Yeah?

Yeah.

If I met a second man named Dad

Then...

He'd be your first dad.

He'd be my first dad.

Yeah.

Boy?

First boy, first dad, dad, Stan.

Does it make sense?

No, no, I actually am enthroned by it.

All I'm trying to say is, from time to time, my first boy...

My first boy, only dad, dad, Stan.

He used to go to Newport sometimes

to work.

Dad Rowan.

Yeah.

As opposed to Dad Bonano.

So to answer your question, Mark, no, I haven't been out in the wilderness much.

Oh, right.

But I wouldn't consider this the wilderness.

It's pretty wild for me.

It's 20 minutes from work.

Get from me.

I am.

This is crazy.

For a short time, I was a

volcanoist.

What's that?

Volcanist.

Volcanist.

I would go to.

Yeah, I would go to sort of Hawaii or Indonesia.

Sicily?

Yeah.

And I would go when a when a volcano there's about 50 eruptions a year

they often show signs they're going to erupt.

I would go with my husband, my French husband, and we would go and shoot the beautiful imagery of

the lava and the wreckage.

But after a bit of hubris in Japan in 1991, we were both taken by the volcanoes we love.

That's interesting.

That reminds me of when I was a

I was really into grizzly bears.

Oh wow.

Really?

Yeah.

Yeah.

And then this blow Khan

Werner

came and visited me.

Did you meet Werner?

I can't remember.

I thought you...

I don't think you ever met Werner.

I've not seen the film.

Yes you have.

I've not seen Grizzly Man, no.

And then they ate me for dinner.

Yeah, I don't think he ever met you.

I think he would just look at your footage.

Similar to mine.

So after we died, Werner did a requiem for me and my husband.

We're both French.

Really?

And he talked about our beautiful imagery.

The only requiem I was involved in was

sort of this night after a big heroin bender.

Ah.

Where I got

slammed either side.

Pardon?

Where's your arm?

My arm.

Yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, lost that.

Shot up too many times in the same vein with a dirty needle

But uh is that a Werner Herzog film?

No, no, that's no, it's Darren Darren Aronofsky.

Do you know I actually a lot of people don't know this about me, but I am the oldest cave paintings in the world you yes, I am the oldest What do you mean by that?

So I am

In France maybe

a few decades ago

a cave opened up, a cave that had been sealed for thousands of years opened up.

And people found the oldest cave paintings in existence and they'd been preserved because the cave had been sealed.

I am that cave and those cave paintings.

Unbelievable.

And Werner Herzog came and he shot me in 3D

with 3D cameras.

Can you shoot someone in 2D?

No, no, well I am 3D, but people, the French government grants very little access because they don't want to damage me.

Yeah, right, right.

So Werner came and shot me in 3D and

I

know I don't watch films.

I'm a cave.

But he, I think, made a documentary out of me.

Right.

Yeah, right, right.

France, that's where

that revolution happened, right?

I couldn't tell you.

I was sealed up at the time.

Yeah.

So Broden's...

Broden's string isn't even in the ocean, so I'm concerned about Broden's ability to catch it.

I'm going to get up, throw mine back out there.

Loosen it, you got that, yeah.

You know how to.

No,

you want to hold, you want to put you want to put your

finger there?

Can we get someone to put the can we get someone, Broden?

We're going to just break the illusion that we're alone here and get someone just.

Lucy, put my ball in the water.

And then, Broden, flip this, flip this over.

But put your finger on the line.

Flip it over.

Alright, so your reels come off again.

Your whole reels come off off the road.

It's alright, I didn't catch anything, but probably the only thing I've probably the thing the only thing is.

The way it's going, the only thing I'm worried about us catching up.

I want to do it.

You flip it like this right in.

What you were going to say then.

Okay, yeah, go.

We'll just, we'll beep it or something.

But no, I want to be the one that said the joke.

Yeah, do it, yeah, go.

Do you promise not to cut it?

No, we'll cut mine.

We'll beep me.

So your reels come off.

You go get your reels.

I got it.

Your reels come off then.

Clip it in.

God, they're biting they are biting today

i bet my line has been fucking taut since we pressed record what do you think of that scroll it back up um my only thing i think i'm probably going to catch today is a cold

let this go

broden i surely hope not and then you otherwise and then you spin it back in otherwise we won't be uh going down to uh bc and f after this to get that was can you tell people about your hope for these podcast episodes what do you mean well you said we'll get a sponsorship from BC

boating, camping, fishing.

I was really hoping we would get a sponsorship from BCF because I know they've got that BCF money and

you know because people are because fishing is what national pastime would you say?

No, not really.

But it is

you know, people do do it.

People do do it.

And the people that do do it need their equipment.

They need to buy it.

Could you?

And we're, you know, we're.

And to be all right, this is very important to mention.

I don't know how we haven't mentioned it so far because we are fishing with Akuma vibe rods.

And I'll tell you what, it's a bit of a vibe out here, isn't it?

No.

No, you don't.

But, but,

but,

what is fair to say,

what is fair to say is that when someone decides to go fishing, they need

certain bits and pieces to make that happen, right?

Is that fair to say?

Can I fucking say that?

Yeah.

Right.

Is this your pitch for an ad?

No, I'm like,

I don't know.

I've been thrown a bit, to be honest.

I'm throwing you.

Oh, oh, oh, oh.

You got a bite?

Oh, oh, oh.

My line I lost it.

My line is fucking taut.

And Mark, just on your boating camping fishing, just to talk about that, because I think it's a great point.

Do you think...

Why do you think the industry of fishing is so clouded with depression?

Fear of fishing.

Of shishing.

Come on, God.

Why is the industry so clouded with darkness and dark clouds and sadness and misery?

Yeah, well fishing's gone through some hard times.

Back in

your cavemen days, it was simpler then.

You had your stick.

You talked to Tom Hanks and him in the castaway.

In Castaway.

The bit that I always took away from Castaway, the bit that really resonated with me was when he saw the big crab legs.

Because on the island,

the crabs were much smaller.

What?

Yeah.

The bit that stayed with me, this lives in me.

He goes,

he picks up a big crab leg at the end and he goes, And he has this moment.

He has this moment where he's, because on the island, if you know Castaway, do you know Castaway, Broden?

I watched it once.

Yeah, it's a simple story of a man works for FedEx.

FedEx.

Gets stranded on an island.

And the FedEx is a metaphor for how easy you can get anything to FedEx it.

Yeah.

Anyway, go on.

No, but it's true.

And it's also about the tenacity and determination of the FedEx delivery man who will deliver something at any and all costs.

Not even being stranded on an island and having to fuck a volleyball can stop a man.

He had no point.

He would have fucked it.

You don't know that man.

He doesn't fuck it.

He would have fucked it.

He would have fucked it.

I would go

fuck this is going to get complicated.

Oh, he should have fucked one of the fish.

Just jumped out of the water.

Hey, Jens.

Yeah.

we're hot we're we're half in we've done our first episode wow now i fear for this month of content yeah i really am worried yep and i just want to say to our audience this is going to get worse and worse yeah um so join us next week it's fishing month that's the big announcement we want to make the worst month is if you thought this was uh our fishing podcast no no this is fishing month join us next week where we get into the nitty-gritty,

just a couple of blokes talking about it all.

More relaxed months.

Well, we'll see you then.

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