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Speaker 4 All righty, guys. Welcome back to Kate and Ty Break It Down.

Speaker 4 Um, this week's episode is just with me and Ty.

Speaker 1 Oh my god, everyone keeps saying, like, hey, what's going on? I'm like, all right.

Speaker 4 I'm sure people will be excited about that. I think for us, it was just really what's going on in our life right now is a lot of adoption stuff.
That's what was kind of going on.

Speaker 4 And I feel like, you know, we kind of realized a lot of adoptees don't have voices and other birth parents.

Speaker 4 So I I feel like that's why we recorded so many episodes with adoptees and, you know, people involved in the adoption triad and stuff.

Speaker 1 I think people are just getting like, they're like, all right, adoption, adoption, adoption. But it's like, you have to understand we're recording these in real time

Speaker 1 as things happen in life. And that's just what's happening right now.

Speaker 4 Right. And when we went and recorded all of those, it was like we went to New York City on purpose and we had a bunch of adoptees and people that have wrote adoption books and birth parents.
And

Speaker 4 so there will definitely be some more adoptee voices shared.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because we have more story to tell. Right.
But we hear you guys. We understand.
We're breaking it up. I get it.

Speaker 1 You're like, okay, I get it.

Speaker 4 Sorry. Sorry for the delay in just me and Ty.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I also feel like, even, I mean, I just feel like. There are certain aspects in this whole journey that we're never going to do right.
People are always going to hate on us. And I mean,

Speaker 4 I remember when we first started, I said, I could be like out in the streets feeding the homeless.

Speaker 4 And somebody would be like, you're giving him too many carbs, you know, like they'll always pick up something to hate on.

Speaker 1 Alcohol with that money, what's wrong with you?

Speaker 4 Right. Or, like I said, I'm feet, literally, feeding them, and they would hate on me for it.
Like, no matter what you do in life, when you're in the spotlight, yeah, but I think it's way different.

Speaker 1 Like, TikTok is just like this most toxic place I've ever seen.

Speaker 4 I feel like it's your algorithm or something.

Speaker 1 I haven't, I don't spend enough time on it. I usually, maybe you're right, because I'll go to TikTok only to post like our podcast stuff.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because like

Speaker 4 my stuff is always like funny stuff, I need to get jokes.

Speaker 4 Um, I mean, obviously, I will see some negative things about us every once in a while, and I just scroll right past it. I don't even give it the time of day.

Speaker 1 Well, yeah, I mean, I don't either, but I just feel like that's all it is.

Speaker 1 I guess

Speaker 1 it's probably because I'm posting about our podcast and hashtag and all.

Speaker 4 I don't know how I don't know why it is for you, but yeah, it's a lot of toxicity.

Speaker 1 Well, no, and there's people on there that have a whole account dedicated to just us, it's insane to hating, literally hating.

Speaker 1 Their obsession is create, like, I actually would like to say you're welcome to that because of the fact that, like, you're welcome for giving you 16 years worth of learning and growing and making a lot of mistakes for you to use because we were growing for you to stitch together

Speaker 1 to further this preconceived narrative about us that you hate us so much or whatever. So, you're welcome for giving you 16 years worth of.

Speaker 1 learning and growing and making mistakes on national television for you to be able to cut together to further push your narrative of who we are and what's wrong with us and why we deserve all the hate and whatever, whatever.

Speaker 1 And it's like, I want to say you're welcome for giving you that, all that.

Speaker 1 And also for you to be so obsessed with it that you're creating your own echo chamber to fill the people who only have that same idea.

Speaker 4 Like that one girl, like our friend Erin, who she was an adoptee that was on our

Speaker 4 podcast.

Speaker 4 She

Speaker 4 messaged me all the time. She's like, oh, God, so-and-so's at it again with her 156th video of you guys.
I'm like, she's got a lot of damn time on her hands.

Speaker 1 She loves me. Right.
Like, what?

Speaker 4 You're so obsessed.

Speaker 1 But it's weird because, like, I noticed that they create their own echo chamber. Like, they don't want to heat.

Speaker 4 Well, they block anybody that tries to stick up for us or anything.

Speaker 1 And these adoptees write me and say, I was just trying to correct them on certain stuff. And they literally were like, no, block, whatever.
Because you don't agree.

Speaker 4 Like you said, you don't agree with our echo

Speaker 1 or what we believe in.

Speaker 4 So you're blocked. And now you can't come.

Speaker 1 So I just wanted to take a moment to say you're welcome.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.
Your TikTok is definitely super negative.

Speaker 1 I I know, but I'm not on it enough. That's probably my problem, right?

Speaker 4 Um, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because what do you do?

Speaker 4 You just watch like Instagram reels or where are you watching?

Speaker 1 Like, or I'm a grown-up, all right? I watch TikTok. I'm a grown-up.
I watch TikTok. I watch TikToks on Instagram.
I watch Instagram reels posted on TikToks.

Speaker 4 I don't know. Lame.

Speaker 1 Is that the millennial of me? Maybe?

Speaker 4 No, because I'm a millennial and I totally would rather do TikTok. That's like when he, you hopped up on Instagram, Instagram Live like a week ago, and I was like, It's you, Instagram Live?

Speaker 4 Like, that's gross. Like, you need to go on TikTok Live.

Speaker 1 I will say TikTok Live's a little more like, um, way better.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like, yeah, you get so many more views. Like,

Speaker 4 you know, I don't know any of this shit. I don't know, but yeah, it was funny because even my friend was like, Where is he? I can't find him.
And she's like, Oh, I was like, I know.

Speaker 4 I hate I hate Instagram live. She was like, Me too.

Speaker 1 Why does everyone hate it?

Speaker 4 I don't know. I just feel like it's better, but yeah, your algorithm is messed up.

Speaker 1 So maybe I just need to invest in it more. I guess, but you're You're a TikTok hater.
So

Speaker 4 yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, come on, dude. Well, dude, this app is insane.

Speaker 1 It's something's off with it.

Speaker 4 No, like, you were so happy it was getting banned. And I'm like, you're weird.

Speaker 1 No, why? Dude, because I'm telling you, I, even just a little amount of time I spend on it, I can see

Speaker 1 this crazy algorithm and this, it's like they're mind reading you. You could be saying something about babies and all of a sudden it's just like baby stuff.
And it's just, it's, dude, it's crazy.

Speaker 4 Honestly, I feel like Facebook's a little worse because ever since we booked our disney trip that's all my reels have been dude it's my first time going to disney i know are you excited i'm actually super pumped yeah so for people that don't know ty we've talked about booking a disney trip for literally years oh my god yeah a long time Really long time.

Speaker 4 And so we finally just booked our Disney trip for fall, sometime in fall. And it'll be Ty's first time.
My first time is like an adult. I think I was like 10 when we went.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 it'll be, you know, first time for our kids, all of our kids.

Speaker 4 And Nova's 10, so she's, you know, it is a good time. Like, we have to do it now.

Speaker 1 Yeah, well, I didn't want to wait. I didn't want to do it too early because I feel like kids ain't going to remember nothing.

Speaker 4 Well, Rya's not going to remember crap when we take her.

Speaker 1 I know, but our oldest is 10. Yeah.
So we have to do it now. And maybe we'll take Ryan.

Speaker 4 Right. Invado will remember.
But we've already missed that window with Nova where she's like not into princesses or anything.

Speaker 4 But that's why I'm excited we're doing Universal with her because she's like listening to all the Harry Potter books right now. Oh, yeah.
She like knows the stories.

Speaker 4 She's been watching the movies after she listens to the books and stuff. So I'm excited to take her to Universal.

Speaker 1 I'm pumped because I got her into Harry Potter. I said, yeah, listen, if you don't like Harry Potter, something's wrong with you.
I love it. How do you not like Harry Potter? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Like, dude, it's amazing. And when she sees Universal Studios.

Speaker 4 My only fear with her is like, you know, we took her to Cedar Point last year. And for people that don't know, Cedar Point is like a huge amusement park in Ohio with tons of roller coasters and stuff.

Speaker 4 And we took her on one roller coaster. After that, she got off, started crying, and didn't ride crap the rest of the day.
I'm like, that's all Disney and Universal is rides. That was bullshit.

Speaker 4 So, what are we going to do? I thought about that the other day. I'm like, what are we going to do? We take Nova and she doesn't want to go on anything.

Speaker 1 This is the time that let me take over. Yeah.
Okay.

Speaker 4 Like, they have that cool, like in Hogwarts, they have that cool bike ride where you get on the bikes and you ride with what's his face.

Speaker 1 She's going to ride. She's going to.

Speaker 4 You know, like, oh, she's better, dude. I don't, that's a big, big ass waste of money.

Speaker 1 Yeah, for real. No, this is this is the moment.
I know people are like, it's so wrong. Don't force them.

Speaker 1 No, you're riding, you're riding the fucking roller coaster, and you're gonna lock your seat down. And

Speaker 1 the last time the person was like, Do you want to get off? I said, No, she's fine. And she was crying, and he was like, He let her off.
He let her off. I said, Bro, I'm the parent.

Speaker 1 Yeah, no, I was like, dang, man.

Speaker 4 I mean, imagine being a worker. I would feel so bad.
There you know, no.

Speaker 1 Well, I gave him the dirt. I said, Man, that's crazy.

Speaker 4 Yep. Yeah.
So, um,

Speaker 1 well, I don't know.

Speaker 4 We'll, we'll have to see.

Speaker 1 Um, I know I I can't be alone, though. I know there's got to be other adults who've never been to Disney World.
Oh, for sure.

Speaker 1 Because I, like, I'm telling you, like, it's something that I always wanted to do, but obviously my mom can never afford it.

Speaker 4 I mean, my mom couldn't afford it any of them. It was my grandma that paid for us.

Speaker 4 But I do have to say, like, I remember the first day we did, I think it was Universal Studios, and I was like 10 or 11 years old, and I was traumatized. Absolutely.

Speaker 1 Universal.

Speaker 4 Traumatized. Yes.
Because there's this, my mom took me me in this one thing at Universal. So it's like realistic.
Like the, you know, it's like movies there.

Speaker 4 You do these rides and it's like you are in this fucking movie. And it was an alien one.
And it's like you all sit in these chairs.

Speaker 1 I don't know. You ever seen the movie Alien?

Speaker 4 Yeah, but all I know is like you go and you sit in these chairs and there's a tube full of water with an alien inside the water.

Speaker 4 And there's like all these scientists and stuff. And then all of a sudden they start freaking out.
The lights go black and the alien escapes out of the tube.

Speaker 4 And he's like breathing in the back of your neck. You can hear him walking around the room.
I was sobbing, freaking out, sobbing. I remember there being like holes on the back of the chair.

Speaker 4 And I thought like some shit's going to come out there and like bite my neck, you know, like I was freaking out. So I'm like leaning down.

Speaker 4 My mom is laughing hysterically at me because I'm freaking out.

Speaker 4 We get out of there and I'm like, this is crazy. Like I'm never going on anything ever again.
And then right after that, we did the Jurassic Park ride. And it's like in the beginning, it's water.

Speaker 4 It's all pretty. And it's like, you got the long necks and it's so cool.
Dude, yes. And they start breaking out, attacking shit.

Speaker 4 And then you're like, you know, you go to this freaking T-Rex that's like chomping at your boat. Huge T-Rex.
I'm freaking out.

Speaker 1 It's a robot. Or is it like a vision? Oh, it's robots.
Oh, so it's like a yes.

Speaker 4 Like, no, it's a real, you know, like, it looks real. And it's, it was, and then

Speaker 1 I was like 10 or 11. Oh, wow.

Speaker 4 After that, I wouldn't go on shit. Not another damn ride.
They even tried to get me to ride on the Popeye ride, which is like a water ride. And I was like, hell no, I don't give a fuck about Popeye.

Speaker 4 No. Very

Speaker 4 yes so you got to be careful with shit like that because universal is so real like so if you're talking about alien like that you ever see the movie alien no

Speaker 4 you know I've never really watched that no it's a horror movie so the fact that yeah I was on a horror ride freaking out the fact that your mom put you on a horror movie ride is freaking and then they were so upset because I wouldn't want to go on anything else well are you kidding me I was damn traumatized like funny and I don't really remember Disney too much you don't no and I think it's because I was freaking all I remember is the bad stuff.

Speaker 4 Jurassic Park ride and the alien ride.

Speaker 1 That's all I remember.

Speaker 4 And not wanting to go on the Popeye water ride. So you got to be careful with stuff like that.

Speaker 1 Did you do it once or twice? Once. Okay.

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Speaker 1 We're all out of the ordinary.

Speaker 4 I've been, we've been to like Universal and California, but it's not the same.

Speaker 1 It's really not. No.
Like

Speaker 1 I was actually disappointed because I saw the pick. I'm thinking it's, I'm thinking, I didn't know there was a difference between California, Disney World, and Universal versus Florida.
I had no clue.

Speaker 1 I thought they were both exactly the same.

Speaker 4 No. No, dude.
Florida's way better.

Speaker 1 Yeah, that's what I, I mean, the pictures, I was like, what?

Speaker 4 The fuck? Yeah, so I'm super, I'm excited for that trip. I think Veda and Rye are going to have a blast.
So is Nova, like doing Universal and stuff.

Speaker 1 Honestly, Nova, she asked like she don't like Disney princesses, which maybe she doesn't, but I catch her playing with.

Speaker 4 Well, she'll play Barbies and stuff. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But some of those other like rides are going to be fun and cool. Like the frozen ride is, I mean, I will love that.
You know, like certain things like that.

Speaker 4 I do remember, like, they have like a Winnie the Pooh ride, and that was fun and cute.

Speaker 1 The Winnie the Pooh ride, okay, yeah, sure.

Speaker 4 But no, but I'm excited, I'm excited for that trip, especially because you've never been in it.

Speaker 1 No, I've never been, and I'm actually, I get to experience it for the first time myself with my kids. Yeah, I'm a very lucky guy, except damn Disney.

Speaker 4 When I was talking to this lady that was helping me buy tickets and stuff, I'm like, this is wrong.

Speaker 1 What?

Speaker 4 Like, Disney should be for every child. Well, you know what I mean? Like, for every kid, and it's not.
It's not. It's not.
And that is messed up. You can't afford.

Speaker 1 No one can afford that shit. It's wrong.
I'm surprised people are even going.

Speaker 4 Why do you think we, I, like, didn't book it for years? Because every time I'd go to book, I'm like, this is stupid. Like, I'm not doing, this is dumb.
Like, expensive dumb, you know?

Speaker 4 But so then finally, I know, then finally I bit the bullet, but that's what I mean. Disney is messed up.
Like, it's for kids, but then not every kid can go. That's sad.

Speaker 1 Well, maybe we should do a Disney sponsorship or something.

Speaker 4 I know, right? Because that's so sad to me.

Speaker 1 It is sad. Yeah.

Speaker 1 To experience Disney,

Speaker 1 I would see pictures. My friends would come back to school.
Yeah. He'd be gone.
They'd come back with a tan, you know, right? Oh, we went to Disney. And I'm like, oh, yeah, picture shirts.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I'm just like, man, that sounds great.

Speaker 4 I know. It is sad.

Speaker 1 I'm like, that sounds cool. It is super sad.
And then when you tell them as kids, oh, like when you went to Disney, you know, the ones at Disney World, I'm like, I never went to Disney World.

Speaker 1 Right, never been. And they're like, you never went to Disney World.
I'm like, dude. Right.
Your mom couldn't afford that. Your mom can't afford that crap.

Speaker 1 I'm going to have to work in a bar to seed us.

Speaker 4 Yeah. But I mean, this has been years in the making, so I'm excited.
I'm excited

Speaker 4 for it. Yeah, I'm excited.
Thankfully, your mom's coming so she can take Raya when she, like, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but it is really expensive and it's not fair.

Speaker 4 No, it's not fair. It's sad.

Speaker 1 It is sad.

Speaker 4 But I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Excited to take the kids.

Speaker 4 What other life updates do we have going on? Well, Nova, what? She finished her cheer.

Speaker 1 Competitive cheer is over. Woo! Oh, my gosh.
All you cheer parents. You guys know how it is, man.

Speaker 1 The traveling, the money, the insanity, the culture, the parents, the screaming, and the just crying when they're crying.

Speaker 1 Dude, the amount of girls crying. I know, Ty, yeah.
It's almost kind of disheartening. I'm like, this poor child is just destroyed.

Speaker 4 Yep, and they were all crying for a bunch of different reasons.

Speaker 1 One did, one's moving away. One didn't, madam, they didn't hit zero.
One, it's like, man, this year is a whole different thing, man.

Speaker 4 It really is.

Speaker 1 But Nova loves it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but she, like, even this, she was like, after this season, she's like, I just want to take a break from it.

Speaker 1 Which we're like, that's cool. Yeah.
I think it's important. Like, let the kid.

Speaker 1 I'm not, like, I understand. If they make a commitment, I want them to make, I want them to see the commitment through, right?

Speaker 4 That was with Nova for them.

Speaker 1 Right. You got to keep going.
When the season's over, you have an opportunity to not do it again. Right.

Speaker 4 And be done. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because even she was fighting me the last couple weeks about not wanting to go to practice, things like that. I'm like, absolutely not.
You are part of a team.

Speaker 4 And without you, your team cannot do what they are coming and showing up to do. So no, you have, sorry.
You have to. Yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't think it's right to like let them just quit in the middle of the the day.

Speaker 4 No, not at all. I will not.

Speaker 1 And plus, especially because they're teams. So, if you quit, you're letting everyone else down.
That's not how it works.

Speaker 4 And plus, there were a few times too she'd go to practice and then come out. She's like, I'm so glad you made me go.
I had so much fun. I'm like, Ah, remember that.
Lock that in your brain, kid.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, competitive season of cheer is done,

Speaker 4 which this year was crazy. Yeah, like Chicago, Nashville, Ohio, you know, but also Nova loves it.
Yeah, they she makes tons of memories and makes friends. And now, I just

Speaker 4 Veda just had her first little taste tryout practice. Um, I'm hoping she likes cheer because I personally, me, I love the cheer stuff.

Speaker 1 I love, I mean, I like it. It's just dude.

Speaker 4 But I'm saying, I love the moms. I love the experiences.
I love the kids being able to experience things. And if Veda ends up liking it, sorry, Nova, it's going to have to be the same way as it was.

Speaker 4 Like, now it's about Veda when we do competitive cheer.

Speaker 4 Like, I think that's only fair, you know, like, because it was about, all right, this is our time where we get to spend time with quality, like, quality time with Nova when we go go to different places and go to hotels.

Speaker 1 Now, here's the thing: though, do we bring what if Nova wants to go to Vedas? Do we let her go? I don't know. Saying what do we do?

Speaker 4 I don't know. Part of me is like, that's not really fair.
Veda did.

Speaker 1 She told Veda she couldn't come to because Nova.

Speaker 4 She came to a couple. Yeah.

Speaker 1 She came to a couple, which was fine. And Nova was fine with it.
But at the end of the day, we like to say that it's Nova's thing.

Speaker 4 Yeah, and it's our time to spend with her. Just like when we take Veda to gymnastics and stuff.
I don't take any other kids with me. I'm like, no, now it's my quality time with you.
You know?

Speaker 1 Tell Nova, no, you can't go. Yep.

Speaker 4 I don't know. We'll have to play it by ear.

Speaker 1 Maybe we let her come to a couple. I don't really know.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Maybe.

Speaker 4 Maybe. I don't know.
Let's even if Vada even ends up liking it, you know. She seemed to really enjoy it yesterday, though.
So I'm kind of hopeful part of me is like, please like cheer.

Speaker 1 I think she'll like it. I don't know.
I hope so. It's fun.
She went to it a couple times in Nova. She was just like.

Speaker 4 The coach yesterday was really impressed with Vada's handstands. This girl.

Speaker 1 She's practicing the living room, almost breaking her neck and stuff. I'm like, dude, it's stressful.
I'm like, dad, watch this.

Speaker 4 She goes, yeah. I'm like, look.

Speaker 1 She literally throws her head first. I'm like, dude, you got to, dude.

Speaker 1 You got to have your hands out.

Speaker 4 You got to brace yourself.

Speaker 1 Because she's just going, watch, head first, and then putting her hands out. I'm like, dude.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So the coach was pretty impressed yesterday with her handstands. And I'm like, oh, yep, she does them all the time everywhere, you know.

Speaker 4 And the one mom was like, oh, my God, she almost like threw herself over in her handstand.

Speaker 1 She was just like,

Speaker 1 yeah, she's wild.

Speaker 4 But she likes it. She loves to flip and stuff.
So I hope she likes it. And then with Nova, too, I told her, I said, well, cheers over because Nova's very much like, I want to have the summer off.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, I don't blame you, kid. Like, summer, you want to camp and swim and, you know, just do kid things.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 But I told her, I said, but you need to be in something, whether you pick up more art classes, whether you want to do horseback riding or swim or whatever it is.

Speaker 4 But like, I want you to be in something at least.

Speaker 1 She said she wants to do more art classes.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And then she was like, I really would, I really would like to do horseback riding.
I'm like, that's fine.

Speaker 4 But I feel like kids, especially where we live in the middle of nowhere, the the childhoods me and you had, like, I feel, I feel like they have to be involved in something just to keep your mind like busy and making friends.

Speaker 1 When you think about it, like, the amount of time, well, the amount of time that our kids are at home, like, is when I was Nova's age, I didn't come home to the streetlights came out.

Speaker 4 No, we were riding our bikes, and

Speaker 1 but they don't live in like a town, no, we live out in the middle of nowhere, got to be driven to somebody's house, literally, you know, literally, you can't ride your bike to your friend's house, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 Because dirt roads would be

Speaker 1 so it's like they have a totally different like childhood and lifestyle, I think, than we did.

Speaker 4 That's why I think it's important.

Speaker 4 Yeah, literally, but I had fun. I had so much fun, so much fun.

Speaker 1 That's what I'm saying. Like, a part of me is kind of sad for him.
I'm like, dang, you don't get to experience like what that was like.

Speaker 4 Right, like, you know, riding to your friend, riding your bike to your friend's house.

Speaker 1 And the only way you knew where everyone was, but all the bikes in the front yard. Yes.
I was like, oh, they're over there over

Speaker 1 so-and-so's house.

Speaker 4 I feel like we were the last good generation for that, though.

Speaker 4 We were. So that's why I'm like, I want them to be involved in something.
That's how you make friends.

Speaker 4 And even when she had the whole middle school thing, like she saw friends that she met at Cheer that don't even go to the same school she does now, but they're all merging at the one school now, like next year.

Speaker 4 And it's funny. I'm like, see, look at all these girls.

Speaker 1 This whole thing about fifth grade and middle school is just, it's messing my mind up because

Speaker 1 I remember fifth grade very clearly.

Speaker 1 And I could not imagine being in middle school at fifth grade. Like, what?

Speaker 4 Yeah. But they have their own wing and stuff too.

Speaker 1 I don't, it's weird. It is what it is.
Do you think it's weird?

Speaker 4 When I first, yeah, when we first moved here and I found out like fifth grade's at the middle school and not at the elementary school, yeah, that was weird to me.

Speaker 4 But then I've talked to a lot of the parents. I've talked to, you know, a dad that works at the school and just the way that they have talked about it.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, oh, okay, that kind of, you know, that makes sense. They very much so like want to keep them private.
They don't interact with the, you know, seventh, sixth, seventh, and eighth graders.

Speaker 4 They have their own lunches, all of that. Like, I mean, it is what it is.

Speaker 1 I guess it makes sense too, because you do four years of elementary and then technically you do four years of

Speaker 4 middle school and then four years of high school.

Speaker 1 Yeah. All right.
I just feel like fifth graders

Speaker 1 being in middle school is weird. And they do combination locks.
It's just different.

Speaker 4 We're not used to it. So, and you know, they go playground.
Yeah, they do. I thought that was crazy.
I'm glad that they do though. I was nervous about not having recess in fifth grade.

Speaker 4 Like, come on now.

Speaker 1 Do you remember when we first went to middle school, though, and you like, there was just nothing? It was weird. It was weird.
That's it. Basketball court and a couple tables.
Yeah. We all just.

Speaker 1 At recess, I'm like, what do we do?

Speaker 4 Stood around and gossiped. Looked at each other's faces.
That's all we did. Yeah, it was.
That's why, yeah, it is nice that they have a playground there.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, that's crazy. Nova going into a whole totally different school next year.
And then you have little Veda.

Speaker 1 Oh, don't.

Speaker 1 She makes me sad. It's okay.
She's fine. She's exactly where she needs to be.
Yeah, she makes me sad, though. I mean, we had to make the decision, and we did.
I mean,

Speaker 1 I think it's the right move. We had to engage with our teachers.
She needs to do one more year of kindergarten before moving on. It's fine.
A lot of kids.

Speaker 4 I know, but it makes kindergarten. It's like sad.
Like her friends.

Speaker 4 She loves, like, you know, she's got little friends that she says, you know, talks about and like they'll say bye in the drive lines. And, you know, like.

Speaker 1 I know, but she'll make friends.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 4 It is. I mean, I think that's so hard as like a parent.
It's like, I know it's the best thing for her. We've had, I love the school district that we're in.

Speaker 4 We've had tons of meetings with her teachers and like her,

Speaker 4 her, the other people that pull pull her off her classroom out of the classroom so like speech and there's another lady that helps her with like writing and stuff like that and we've met up like gosh I think we've met like four times this year yeah

Speaker 4 and I mean from the beginning I've always like I've kind of pep talked myself I feel like where I'm like listen you guys are the professionals if you know if you're at the end of the year I want to have a meeting because if you guys feel like she needs extra support and more time then obviously I want her to be I'd rather her be held back in kindergarten than do it in like first or fifth grade or fourth grade.

Speaker 4 But I think that is still like, no matter how much you pep yourself up for and you know it's the best thing, it still sucks. Like I feel bad for her.

Speaker 1 Like,

Speaker 4 but I also, I don't want her to grow up struggling through school and not being able to catch on. And

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Speaker 1 Well, I don't want to set up for failure. And I think pushing her into first grade is just, that's exactly what it would do.
Yeah. And plus, I think the way we explained it was great.

Speaker 1 We were just like, you're so good at kindergarten. The teacher wanted you to stay one more year to help all the other kids.

Speaker 4 I know. And it's like, she was like, oh, I'm like, yeah, see.
I know. But then she says, she's like, but I really want to go to first grade.
And I'm like, I know. I know.

Speaker 1 You will.

Speaker 1 Baby, it's so sad.

Speaker 4 I do. I almost cried in the classroom.

Speaker 1 I know. I know.
I could tell.

Speaker 1 I know. I could tell.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I'm like, I want to cry, but I'm not going to cry in all front of all these people because I know it's the right thing for her.

Speaker 1 It's so hard, though.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it is. I mean, that's even like when she was in preschool and I broke down just by them saying, like, she struggles more than most kids.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, oh, my God, I knew it.

Speaker 1 You know, like, knowing she's had little things about her, you know? Yeah, she has. Just the loud noise that she gets scared.

Speaker 4 Yeah, she has the sensory things.

Speaker 1 And it's okay. It's, it's,

Speaker 1 she reminds me a lot of me when I was little. And I wonder, I wonder.
I just wonder a lot the stuff

Speaker 1 about myself. Right.
Watching beta, like as an adult, like as a parent parenting her. Yeah.
Like, I'm just like, yeah, I see some stuff that I'm like, hmm, interesting.

Speaker 1 Because if you don't understand it,

Speaker 1 you're going to, I think people, like people, I got, I was, I was always criticized for just being like misbehaved. Yeah.
I was didn't behave right. I was, you know, insubordinate.

Speaker 1 Thankfully, we don't have that problem with her. No, right.
But like, I look at certain things that she does, or she'll question certain things, or something will bother her. Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know what I'm like, ugh.

Speaker 1 And most people will be like, you beat her. You just, you know, be respectful.
It's like, but it's not that. It's like when you have issues like that, it's different.

Speaker 4 I feel like it is different too. Like she, like, even Veda gets very like

Speaker 4 angry fast or frustrated faster than normal kids would, I feel like, more so at home, thankfully.

Speaker 1 Right.

Speaker 4 I would rather have that at home than at school any day. So, God, your poor mother.
I know. But, um, yeah, because I just noticed, like, she's just, and she's always been like that.

Speaker 4 I remember her being like little, little, and just getting mad because she couldn't talk. Yep.
And she'd get frustrated because what, Mill?

Speaker 1 Right. Chair?

Speaker 4 What? And she would get so frustrated then. Yeah.
So,

Speaker 4 but I mean, the good thing is, is too, is like how they all showed us yesterday at the school meeting, like, she's progressing. She is.
You know, I've said, well, it's good.

Speaker 4 I'm glad the line's not going down. It's going up.
You know, it's just taking her a little bit longer and

Speaker 4 still sucks. She's special.
I know.

Speaker 1 I think she's got, I think kids like her come in with a wiser soul than their body can externally represent. Like, does that make sense? Like, they're, they're, they're, they've been here before.

Speaker 1 They know, like, shut up, idiots. Like, I know what I'm doing, even though they don't know.

Speaker 1 Like, like, they're almost like their soul is wiser than their body's capable of producing

Speaker 1 or showing. Right.
And it's like, so that's what they get, they get so frustrated because it's just like, dude, you're not getting it.

Speaker 4 And I guess the other plus is like, it's going to set her up for success, which that's obviously what we want as parents. Um, and also, her and Raya will be like in the same schools throughout.

Speaker 4 They might miss like one year away from each other when she goes to the middle school.

Speaker 1 School? Yeah.

Speaker 4 You can go through school and they're already super close. Yeah, those two are super close.

Speaker 4 Yeah. And then little Miss Raya, what? She's going to be in in preschool full-time next year.

Speaker 4 I know, but right now she's what? Yeah, you know, just two days a week, and she's about to be four.

Speaker 1 Four years going all day, every day.

Speaker 4 It's what she's going to do, Ty.

Speaker 1 Why, though?

Speaker 4 Because that's how you set them up for success, is you put them in preschool.

Speaker 1 Can't we just like,

Speaker 1 whatever. I already thought about 8 million.

Speaker 4 Thankfully, though, she'll be with the teacher that you know we both adore. And she's had every single one of our kids.
It's true. And

Speaker 4 I think it's good for them. It starts teaching them their names and ABCs and numbers.

Speaker 1 But that means we're going to go

Speaker 1 six hours of not seeing her. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's not even six, is it?

Speaker 1 Whatever. I don't know what it is.
It feels like nine. Right.
I know.

Speaker 4 It's all day. No, I think, yeah, next, yeah, after this summer, it'll be the first year of like, we literally have no babies in the house.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 That's crazy. You know, they need

Speaker 1 the fuck is going on.

Speaker 4 Crazy.

Speaker 1 Maybe we should have another one, maybe.

Speaker 4 I don't want to start all over. Sometimes I think about it and then they start fighting and screaming at each other.
And I'm like,

Speaker 1 I tell you what, that is one of the most unexpected struggles that I didn't think I would have after getting snipped. Yeah.
Was like, even if I wanted one, I couldn't. You could.
There's other ways.

Speaker 1 Yeah, but I have to like, without just, you know, I have to go get snitch. I did like make it, I had to plan it out.
I mean, I really, you know, like, right. This is a whole different.

Speaker 4 It's not like I just get off birth control or we stop using production and then have a baby

Speaker 1 I'm never gonna be able to like rub your belly or nothing no or old little newborns that's sad to me we're 32 I know but I love you I love your pregnancy 32 or 33 we're 33 okay we are thirty guys

Speaker 1 you have no idea okay you guys don't understand she

Speaker 1 you don't

Speaker 1 she walk what did you say the other like a couple weeks ago you were like am i 34 i'm not 34. i'm like you're not 34 34.
I'm 34. You are not 34.

Speaker 1 But forget how you increase your age. And usually people go, I'm like 31.
No, you're 33. It's like, no, I'm 30.
I'm like, you're, you're, you're adding a year. No, I forget.
I forget how old I am.

Speaker 1 I'm 30 fucking three. We're 33.

Speaker 4 I do. I forget how old.
Yeah, okay. So I'm 33.

Speaker 1 Are we sure?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Like, I don't want to start over again.
I mean, there's days that where I'm like, yes, I would love to have a new more baby and experience the hospital. Or I wish I would have,

Speaker 4 I wish I would have soaked in the hospital moments more or whatever.

Speaker 4 Like I go through all these mental things or like, oh, sometimes I think of like, oh, wow, you know, like a little thing next to my bed or whatever.

Speaker 4 And then I'm like, but I also don't want to start over.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 4 You know?

Speaker 4 And it's like, I saw something on TikTok actually the other day where it was like, the next time you experience this, and it was like flashes of like the hospital rooms and like newborn blankets and stuff.

Speaker 4 It was like. The next time you experience this is when you're grandparents.
I was like, oh my God.

Speaker 1 That's sad.

Speaker 4 Yeah. That's so sad.
And we got to wait, you know, I'm pretty sure your niece and nephew will probably have babies before we're grandparents. Oh, yeah, it is.
For me, it is.

Speaker 1 No, but I will love on that baby.

Speaker 1 Our babies' babies. That's way different.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but it's still your bloodline.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know.

Speaker 1 I know.

Speaker 4 Niece and nephew's babies.

Speaker 4 But yeah, but like, no, but yeah,

Speaker 4 to experience like our babies, baby, we'll be grandparents.

Speaker 1 Well, one thing I didn't think about was just not seeing you pregnant. Yeah.

Speaker 1 ever again that's what i i oh the babies are babies but like i'm never gonna see you pregnant again that is devastating Is it? Yeah. I don't think you get it because you're

Speaker 1 get it because you're a guy going through all this shit.

Speaker 4 Yeah, hell no.

Speaker 1 But from a guy perspective, a husband, whatever, it's just shitty. Like, I'm never gonna be able, that sucks.

Speaker 4 I do not forget those.

Speaker 4 I do not miss the

Speaker 4 vagina shocks.

Speaker 1 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 It's like out of nowhere.

Speaker 1 Oh!

Speaker 4 We'll never miss that shit ever.

Speaker 4 I did it. I mean, I feel like I was a person I enjoyed being pregnant.
I loved, you know, a lot of it. But towards the end and middle of it, I was like, no.

Speaker 1 You're done.

Speaker 4 Yeah, dude. Restless legs, cancer.

Speaker 1 Restless legs. That was the worst.

Speaker 4 Freaking

Speaker 4 pelvic floor.

Speaker 1 Whatever.

Speaker 4 Whatever it was, like, hurt so bad. Yeah, like, I will not, I will not.
But yeah, so it's crazy. Our life is changing.
The kids are getting older.

Speaker 4 They're doing sports. We're busy.
We're, you know, they're all going to be in school.

Speaker 4 Freaking crazy. What? Oh, and

Speaker 4 also, too, it's like, I don't think a lot of people realize, too, that your niece has been living with us. So she lives with us.

Speaker 1 Yeah. I mean, she just graduated high school.
Yep. Which was huge because

Speaker 1 she was. Yeah.
I mean, listen, she.

Speaker 4 Well, she's been here for about a year.

Speaker 1 She's been over a year.

Speaker 4 No, May. May would have been.

Speaker 1 Maybe you're right. Maybe.

Speaker 1 She's, you know, she was living with my sister down in Texas. And I don't want to say too much about, you know, I'm not going to share her story or whatever.
But like, you know,

Speaker 1 my sister's had her own struggles down there in Texas.

Speaker 1 And I think the biggest thing was like, you know, when my sister and her started fighting down in Texas and she was behind in schoolwork. Yeah.
It was like, we got to get her out of there.

Speaker 1 We got, like.

Speaker 4 Well, no, yeah, Lex was just, I'm coming there. She just left.

Speaker 1 So it's like, I mean, it was a big decision to

Speaker 1 figure this out and stuff because I feel like... I had to look at it not like saving my sister, but helping Lex.
You know what I mean? No, that's not fair. Because that's what it felt.

Speaker 1 I'm like, I can't just go rescue Amber all the time. I can't go rescue my sister all the time.
You know what I mean? No. But it's not.
It's more than that. It's not rescuing my sister.

Speaker 1 It's, it's helping my niece get her footing in life. And so, yeah, moved her in, said, we're going to get you through school.
Yep. We're going to help you get a car.

Speaker 1 We're going to help you get your first place when you graduate. As long as you do everything you're supposed to do.

Speaker 4 And she's been doing good. Yeah.
What? She graduated. She works a full-time job.
She, you know, got her car.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, she's doing all the right things.

Speaker 1 And that's what I told both my niece and nephew because I know that they didn't get the, they didn't hit the lottery with parents. They got dealt with shitty hands for sure.

Speaker 1 So I felt like I wanted to like as an uncle and just like, all right, I need to like absolutely give them a little jumpstart to independent life that not a lot of kids get.

Speaker 1 Not a lot of kids get a free first car, a free first month, last month rent.

Speaker 1 They don't get that.

Speaker 4 As long as they're doing the right thing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they don't get those opportunities. So I wanted to like just give them a little springboard.

Speaker 4 Yep. So I'm proud of her.
She's been doing really good. And the kids, our kids absolutely love her.
And she's helped, you know, she's helped watch them and babysit. And, you know.

Speaker 1 If if it wasn't for lex i wouldn't be able to go to a couple competitions yeah nova cheer you know like she's used out a lot no she really has and the kids love her

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Speaker 4 I've seen a lot of comments of people asking, like, how come I always drive? Why don't you ever drive me around? Why am I not a passenger princess, Tyler Lewis?

Speaker 1 Okay, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna start off by saying this. You think being a passenger princess or prince in the side of her car and when she's driving, you guys are all crazy.

Speaker 1 This woman, Revs, she'll speed towards brake lights. There'll be brake lights in front of us.
Whatever. No, you know it.
There'll be brake lights in front of us. And she's literally just like, yeah.

Speaker 1 So anyway,

Speaker 1 I'm like, dude, we are going towards brake lights with the accelerator going.

Speaker 1 I literally will, you know, how many times I'm driving, I grab the, I'll grab this, I'll grab the side of this chair, or you notice I'll put my hand up, I'll be like, yeah, and you'll be like,

Speaker 4 you'll make a whole noise. I'm like, I'm fine.

Speaker 1 Oh, you're not fine. Because we are literally going 30 miles an hour towards brake lights.

Speaker 1 And I should have known what I was teaching you how to drive when we were kids. And you were literally didn't know how to keep your

Speaker 1 foot steady. Just cruise control.
So you'd be like,

Speaker 1 and 30 miles an hour. And I drove.

Speaker 1 30 miles an an hour. Let's go.
30 miles an hour. Dude, oh, um, I was gonna bring it up.
Uh, the one driver we had was doing it

Speaker 1 in you, you know, in Nashville, dude.

Speaker 4 I was like,

Speaker 1 oh my god, babe, that is you, still to this day. I swear to God, I'm gonna listen, still to this day.
You're driving, though, so you can't feel what it feels like the anticipating of the riders.

Speaker 4 I still do that to this day. Yes, you're a lying.

Speaker 1 I swear. You, I swear to God.
Did you feel what he was doing? Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes, it was driving me nuts.

Speaker 1 It literally was.

Speaker 1 I was like, I'm going to puke.

Speaker 1 I saw you shift towards an LC.

Speaker 1 Because I'm going to puke.

Speaker 1 Anyway,

Speaker 1 I can't, I don't drive. It's not because I don't like driving.
It's because you get motions that you can't say anyone else drives.

Speaker 4 No, and it's gotten worse with age, too.

Speaker 1 You can't even ride roller coasters.

Speaker 4 No, I know. I don't know what I'm going to do at Disney.
Sit there and watch us. No, I'm going to just puke.

Speaker 1 Passenger princess in the...

Speaker 4 I'll puke because I'm experiencing that shit. But no, so people, it's funny.
I'm like, dude, if people only knew, like, I have to drive or I will puke. Literally, I will vomit everywhere.

Speaker 4 Like, or I have to be in the front. But even, I don't know, sometimes with your driving, it makes me want to puke.

Speaker 1 What's wrong with my driving?

Speaker 4 I don't know. It just makes me want to puke.

Speaker 1 Dude, if you're lucky, I don't have motion sickness, but if I had motion sickness, too, we would both be so fucked.

Speaker 4 We'd be driving separately everywhere.

Speaker 1 Literally, because you, dude, man.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I can't. Ask your mom.
Oh, my mom hates my driving. So does my grandma.

Speaker 4 Yeah. My mom's like anxiety, like, doesn't want to look.
And my grandma's like,

Speaker 1 yeah.

Speaker 1 I'm like, grandma, calm down. Put your z-ball in.

Speaker 1 It's because you drive towards brake lights.

Speaker 4 Still never gotten a crash this day.

Speaker 1 Not going to. That's true.
Actually, I have. Yeah, you have.
It's true. With a truck.
Oh.

Speaker 1 I was like, the turkey. You said the truck.

Speaker 1 Oh, what truck?

Speaker 4 Remember when I was little and it was me, Nova, and Nick, and that weird, there's like this weird intersection on the back road. Um, remember that truck pulled out in front of me, though.

Speaker 4 It wasn't my fault. I had, I had the green light.
They were having to stop. They were turning left.
And I was in my red and Benny van. Yeah, me, Nick, and Nova.

Speaker 4 And I, she, like, turned in front of me, and I caught her, and then she pulled off to the side, and then she looked at how bad my van looked, thinking that I wouldn't be able to drive anymore.

Speaker 4 And so she went to go take off, and I went to check, I chased her ass. Oh, yeah, she stopped.

Speaker 1 It's right, that's right, that's right. I do remember this, yes.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 And then she got out of her truck and she was like, Are you guys okay? I'm like, I'm like, I'm okay, but why did you pull out in front of me? And then she wanted starting to get loud.

Speaker 1 And I was like, okay, whatever.

Speaker 4 But even the cops were like, yeah, that's this bitch's fault. Like, what the hell? Yeah.
So that's the only crash I got into.

Speaker 1 I just said the turkey. I was thinking

Speaker 4 that turkey hit me, though. I did not hit the turkey.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, my crash. Yeah, my crashes in life have been very like,

Speaker 4 I don't know, it's been an animal.

Speaker 4 And then I just like hit stupid shit. So it's not even like cars.

Speaker 1 Curbs and stuff.

Speaker 4 Yeah, like curbs, the poles.

Speaker 4 Yep, stuff like that.

Speaker 4 That's why all of our children will be taking driver's training.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think that's a lot to do with it because me teaching how to drive wasn't the same as going through driver's training. No, not at all.
That was hard. You were a hard,

Speaker 1 you were a hard student.

Speaker 4 Yeah, because for years, I mean, for God, a few years when you had your license, I definitely was a passenger princess because my ocean sickness wasn't bad, not bad.

Speaker 4 And then you were like, you need to go get your license. I'll never forget being like, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, you're, you, you literally, I wanted to get my license. You drive.
I'm like, dude, you're gonna eventually

Speaker 1 go somewhere and I'm gonna go somewhere.

Speaker 4 Yep, so Ty forced me. He's like, No, you gotta go ahead.

Speaker 1 You gotta go get your license.

Speaker 1 So fine. And then I was like, All right, I'll teach you how to drive.
It's not a big deal. I'm thinking by this point, though, you're not gonna be that bad.
You're pretty bad. Parking was bad.

Speaker 4 Yeah, but I eventually, I mean, I did it. I didn't feel my first driver's test or anything.
I passed it.

Speaker 1 Trying to get you to park. And that was

Speaker 4 that's why I'm like, all right, all of our kids will take driver's training for sure.

Speaker 1 Yeah, they have to because I think that affected you.

Speaker 4 Oh, dog. Yeah, I mean, that would affect anybody.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I wonder how your niece is as a driver.

Speaker 1 I've never really drove with her much.

Speaker 4 She's also, I mean, droven lots.

Speaker 1 Yeah, driven.

Speaker 4 Yeah, she's driven lots.

Speaker 1 Droving. She's droving.
Ain't that driving? So I heard someone say,

Speaker 1 yeah, I was drunk in it. I was,

Speaker 1 yeah,

Speaker 1 oh, I drunk it.

Speaker 1 I swear, I don't know of anyone else out there, but like...

Speaker 4 Sort of circuited in your brain.

Speaker 1 So I call it short-circuiting my brain because that's what it feels like. It feels like my brain starts, like, if I'm a robot,

Speaker 1 when I hear people say stuff like that,

Speaker 1 oh, yeah, I drunk it.

Speaker 4 No, yeah, no, you didn't drunk it. You drank it.
You drank. So is drove not a right?

Speaker 4 Drove is a word.

Speaker 1 I know, but it's droven.

Speaker 4 Droven?

Speaker 1 It's not.

Speaker 1 No, it's. Drove.
Driven. Yes.
Thank you. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm like, wait, is drove a word? Yeah, it is.

Speaker 1 It is. Just like drunk's a word.
Uh-huh. But it's.

Speaker 4 But it's like a tipsy.

Speaker 1 But it's past tense. Yeah, you can't.
No, it's, yeah.

Speaker 4 Because how would you even say you would always say, I drank. I would never say, like, I drunk water.

Speaker 1 No, someone's like, well, I didn't. No, I drunk it.
Or I was, I

Speaker 1 was like,

Speaker 1 I was like, no, dude, you didn't. Oh, my God.
I drunk it.

Speaker 1 We'll watch something on TV. I'm like, that was spelled.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. You always pick out weird things.

Speaker 1 You do.

Speaker 4 I do things that I would never, nobody would ever in a million years think to think about.

Speaker 1 But it's one of those things where it almost it's annoying to my brain.

Speaker 4 I can imagine because sometimes you're just like, oh, wait a minute. that was on Sims 3

Speaker 4 in 2008. And I'm like, what? Like, how would you know that? And then he'll pull it up on Google and play.
And I'm like, oh, yeah, you're right. But, like, who, who thinks of that?

Speaker 1 It's because the TLC will use background. Oh, I know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, from The Sims and stuff. Yep.

Speaker 1 So it must have been a copyrighted, free.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I don't know. But yeah, your brain.
I don't know why it's locked in there. Yeah.
I don't know. There could be more useful information in there.
Yeah, you know.

Speaker 1 But no, I remember stupid, weird melody songs from

Speaker 4 and voices and stuff, voices, yeah.

Speaker 1 I don't know, it's weird.

Speaker 4 What else was it? Yeah, because there was one. Uh, so the reason why I always drive, yep, is because if I don't drive, I will puke.

Speaker 1 And honestly, people say, Oh, because some of my hurts on someone's like, oh, yeah, it's because Tyler's a passenger princess or whatever.

Speaker 1 I'm like, bro, you don't even know what it's like being in the other seat, in the driver's seat, next to this woman driving. It ain't no, it ain't no walk in the park.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think I've said sorry a lot. Oh, sorry.
Oh, it's fine.

Speaker 1 You know what's funny? Someone will be breaking too. And you know it's a bad break.
You know it. Cause all of a sudden you're like,

Speaker 1 I can see you kind of like, shit, shit, shit, shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Shit, shit, shit, shit.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Oh, snap. You know you had to fucking

Speaker 4 the brakes. Yeah, I know.
You know, I drive just like my grandpa.

Speaker 1 That's what my grandma says. You do.
Yeah. She's like, you remind me so much of your grandpa.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, oh, that's bad.

Speaker 1 He's a river. Yeah.
He's a river. He's a river.

Speaker 4 That's like that. It reminds me of that one time, too, when we were driving on the freeway in wintertime.
I was probably like, what, I don't know, 18, 19 years old. And this car, like Jeep,

Speaker 4 spun out on the freeway and smacked the side of the road. The, what is that? Like, the median? The median, yeah, but the cement medium.
And I'm just driving. I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 4 What is, oh my God, that is crazy. And he's like, Teller's like, are you going to slow down? No.
Are you going to stop?

Speaker 1 No, you were going 50 miles an hour.

Speaker 1 You're like, whoa, someone's crashing up there.

Speaker 1 Towards the crash. As they're spinning out, everyone else, you're the only car.
Don't all the the other cars break. No, there's K on.
Oh my gosh, look what's happening. Driving

Speaker 1 towards the spinning wreckage.

Speaker 4 Oh my god, I know. Dumb.

Speaker 1 And then when I say that, you're like, oh, yeah, shit. Right.
I need to break. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You're like, like, I'm in a video game.

Speaker 1 I know if my car numbers happen to me.

Speaker 4 I don't know why.

Speaker 1 I could just crash through the car as it's spinning around and keep going. No.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I have an issue. A driving issue.
I wonder if you can take driver's training now, like still.

Speaker 1 I think there should be a requirement. After the age is 60-something years old, you should be taking that shit on.

Speaker 4 Well, I think they do make you like check your

Speaker 4 eyesight and stuff. And if you can't, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Are these questions from people? Because I definitely want to answer the people's questions. What the fuck? What?

Speaker 4 Somebody said, you guys have to talk about the girl who abandoned her adopted son for a uterus transplant

Speaker 4 so that she could have two biological babies through IVF now calls adopted son her nephew.

Speaker 4 I have to do more investigating on that.

Speaker 1 Say it again.

Speaker 4 Blueberry said, You guys have to talk about the girl who abandoned her adopted son for a uterus transplant so that way she could have two biological babies through IBF and now calls her adopted son her nephew.

Speaker 1 Oh my god. First off, uterine transplant.
That's different.

Speaker 1 All right. I don't know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I'm like, I'd have to do some more investigation on that.

Speaker 1 That at all. That's confusing.

Speaker 4 People want to know if you will ever bring back your OF.

Speaker 1 No, I'm not. No.
No, I don't know. Dude, you know, I can't even post out workout videos.
I can't do anything. I can't literally, and I guess it's my fault a little bit.

Speaker 4 Maybe I've been doing it. It's my fault.

Speaker 1 It actually is your fault.

Speaker 1 I can't even, like, I don't even know, but I was almost disabled by comments.

Speaker 4 A lot of people masquerade over your pictures.

Speaker 4 What the fuck?

Speaker 1 Okay, dude. One thing.

Speaker 4 Why am I getting that in my question box?

Speaker 1 I don't know, but I don't know, but I almost disabled my comments on my last Instagram post. I literally broke it.
Your workout post? I thought you looked hot. My leg day.
Yeah. You just posted it.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Dude, okay.

Speaker 4 I'm like, yeah, he's hot.

Speaker 1 No, no, no, no. I'll be honest.
I think all you motherfuckers are looking for shit

Speaker 1 because

Speaker 1 you'd have to really be looking for something in order to

Speaker 1 see stuff. And for the fact that you're, yeah, you have to be like, like, you're not looking at, like, oh, well, you know, no, they're just staring at your bulge.
What the fuck, dude?

Speaker 4 It's my bulge. I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 And someone's like, oh, wear underwear. I never not wear.

Speaker 4 No, you would never go to the gym without underwear.

Speaker 1 That's not like you.

Speaker 1 Yo.

Speaker 4 Even around the house around kids.

Speaker 4 Even to certain kids, Tyler is very much like, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 Because honestly.

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Speaker 1 But anyway,

Speaker 1 I can't even post workout videos, bro.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I kind of, no, I'll be honest with you. I was going through stuff and I'm like, this is like, I kind of feel like what it feels like to be a woman in a way.
Like, I swear to God.

Speaker 1 Like, if a girl goes a sports bra and is working out and they're like, yeah, look at her titties. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. She's doing it on purpose.
Whatever. Whatever they're saying.

Speaker 4 It's like, dude, like, to be like, you know, what I'm bullshit. Like, you know, the feeling now of like, a little bit, yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, I know it's probably not as bad. I'm not trying to compare it, but you know, when I'm talking about it, you can relate to it.
You're objectifying the fuck out of me.

Speaker 1 I'm literally posting my leg day

Speaker 4 or even the videos of like your morning routine with the girls. I thought it was so cute.

Speaker 1 Thank you. Yeah.
Bro, what the?

Speaker 4 Anyway. Also, by the way, everybody's like, where's Caitlin? Is she sleeping? Fuck yeah, I'm sleeping.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's sleeping. What's the big deal? That really blew my mind.

Speaker 4 You know why? Because I do the bath time.

Speaker 4 I do the book time. I do the tuck-in time.
So yeah, I am fucking sleeping.

Speaker 1 And I think it's smart. We work morning, nighttime.

Speaker 1 Yeah. There's two routines.
One's got to be done. One other one's got to be done.
We do it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, we just just split it.

Speaker 1 And so, my, and I also, but one thing that I noticed, though, is that, like, dude, first off, all you women are telling on yourself because you're, you're literally just saying out loud that you have a crappy partner, a crappy partner who's not willing to pull their weight

Speaker 1 and do certain stuff.

Speaker 1 The fact that you're shocked, the guy's cooking his kid's eggs or brushing his kid's hair, or um, in fact, going to the lengths of saying I'm fucking gay because I can brush and curl my kid's hair.

Speaker 1 What the f what is wrong, bro? That's for, are we for real right now?

Speaker 4 you might need to go see jonathan soon i'm just kidding

Speaker 4 dude if you know you know people are ridiculous i do feel bad but no i think that's messed up like of course you're a

Speaker 4 we and it's like we are a partnership like we are best friends we are husband and wife we're we have kids together so we also are a partnership when it comes to the kids like and there's been times too where you'll say i don't want to get up with them in the morning and i'm like okay i will and i've always told you like sometimes i'll compliment attitude.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, fuck.

Speaker 4 But, but it's useless. But I have told him, I'm like, but if you don't want to and you're not, you can't sleep good or whatever, absolutely wake me up.

Speaker 1 Because we're a partnership. Because I didn't get good sleep last night.
And I'm literally up insomnia. Like, yes.
It's so, and I've

Speaker 4 got to do it.

Speaker 1 But even though, but there's so many times though where that happens to me and I still don't do it because it's like,

Speaker 1 it's just sort of, I mean, I'm not going to do it every time. Maybe you should.
But my sleeping pattern gets messed up sometimes.

Speaker 1 And yeah, some days, there's some nights where I'm like, all right, I've been up every hour for four hours. There's no way I'm going to be happy and

Speaker 1 I know for, yeah. And I really think it's important that I want to get my kids up gentle.
Good morning. I love you so much.
You want some eggs?

Speaker 4 You absolutely should. I agree.

Speaker 1 You know, what do you want to do breakfast? What do you want to watch while we, you know what I'm saying? I don't want to be like, all right, everybody, get up.

Speaker 1 Well, because that just

Speaker 4 you ever see like kids crying in the morning or their mom.

Speaker 4 It is sad. And then it starts their whole day off like that.
And it's not their fault.

Speaker 1 Yeah. It's my fault.

Speaker 4 I didn't sleep last night. Oh, you remember that one little boy at preschool, and I came home and started sobbing.
Yeah, that was sad. I think about that little boy a lot.

Speaker 1 Aw, baby, I really do.

Speaker 4 Yeah, this one time there was this, I went to drop off Vada at preschool, and there's this little boy in the parking lot.

Speaker 4 And every morning when I would drop her off, like I would just, I would see him, and he was always just, he always just looked so tired. He was dirty, like his hair wasn't brushed and stuff.

Speaker 4 And I'll never that really kills me. Yeah, and I'll never forget the one time.
So I, I go there, I'm dropping him, like getting Veda and stuff out of the car.

Speaker 4 And I hear the person that's dropping him off, like, come on, we gotta go, we gotta go. And he wasn't wanting to go or whatever.

Speaker 4 And then she just literally, like, blood curdled, like, screamed at this little boy to go. They bring him into the building.
She drops him off, and he starts crying.

Speaker 4 And the teacher's like, oh no, what's wrong? And I look at the teacher and I'm like, well, if somebody were to scream at me like that in the morning, I'd be upset too.

Speaker 4 Like, and so I told the teachers what happened.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Which is good.
I think you know, sorry, you don't know. Yeah, he needs a little extra love today.

Speaker 4 You know, I came home and I started telling Ty about it. I just could not control it.
Like, just literally started sobbing.

Speaker 4 Like, I just felt so bad for this little boy because now his whole day is like ruined.

Speaker 4 Because, and I'm sure, you know, his grandma or whoever was dropping off, like, probably, you don't know what's going on in their days or their, you know, or what. I don't know.

Speaker 4 Like, it to me, it seemed like it looked what I've heard, it seems like the grandma raises all these kids. You know, like, I don't think mom's involved in stuff.

Speaker 4 But I just remember feeling so bad for this little boy. And honestly, he pops into my mind still to this day sometimes.
Where I'm just like, I just wanted to like take him and hug him. Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know, like, I just felt close. So I agree with you.
Like, you can't start kids off and

Speaker 1 yeah. And that's why when I'm off every hour in the hour, I usually give it until like four o'clock, four in the morning.
If I, if I've been, all right, I gotta give up. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 4 I gotta go. And then my alarm will go off, and I'll open it and I'll see a text from Ty.
I'm so sorry.

Speaker 1 I'm like, it's five.

Speaker 1 Whatever. What are you gonna do?

Speaker 4 You know?

Speaker 1 Because I usually will set the alarm on your phone and accept the defeat.

Speaker 1 That I have fought all night and it's four in the morning.

Speaker 4 But to go back to like what you said about how females that were commenting on that stuff and asking where I was and stuff like that, like my opinion is, is that you

Speaker 4 definitely need to have a better partner because, and, or you need to get a divorce because I'm not taking care of a man child.

Speaker 4 And somebody that I have kids with that can't help me with his kids, not, I'd rather do it by myself then.

Speaker 1 That's what I mean.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 Without the peanut gallery randomly I'm gonna be single then like if you're not if you were not helping at all or not you know or if we weren't connecting at all or doing anything together

Speaker 4 I'm fucking gone then I'm already doing it by myself why do I have you here like I couldn't imagine that feeling I don't I'm not jealous of anybody that has to feel like that if anything I feel really bad for you I feel like you need to find somebody who is a partner in this relationship and also like a lover and friend like all of that combined because it's super important there's no way in hell.

Speaker 4 I'd be like, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 And I honestly, I have to say, I don't care what the, I don't care what your schedule is like, I don't care what kind of job you have. You're a dad and you have daughters.

Speaker 1 You should be able to brush their hair and put their hair in a ponytail. Or you should be able to, dude,

Speaker 1 certain things that the comments I'm getting, the fact that society is so warped that they're going to go to the lengths to say that I'm gay.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I can curl my kids' hair is just really like,

Speaker 1 we have a lot of work to do.

Speaker 4 Absolutely. You guys,

Speaker 4 in my mind, in my mind, I see a dad who adores his kids. And when their daughter's like, Dad, I really want to feel pretty today.
Do you know how to do it?

Speaker 1 Like, fuck you. Why not?

Speaker 4 That's a fucking attractive to me.

Speaker 1 No, well, I'm saying, and nobody doesn't ask to curl her hair every day. No.
But when she asks, you damn right. Right.
I'm going to get the curling iron out and curl her hair that night.

Speaker 4 Yes. That is so cute.

Speaker 1 They want two bows instead of one ponytail. We're getting two fucking bows.
Right.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean? And you know what, too? Is like they, when they're older and stuff, and even when you pass one day, they're going to remember that. No, I don't.

Speaker 4 How many girls have you gotten messages from saying, oh my God, it makes me think of my dad. And he used to brush my hair every morning.
You know what I mean? Like, and they do. No, I know.

Speaker 4 Like, I'm telling you right now.

Speaker 4 And I've told you a lot. Like,

Speaker 4 and I've told you a lot, like little girls and their dads. It's just different.
It's different.

Speaker 4 I know. It's different.
They're important. I know.
We, as girls, remember so vividly of our dads and like how they make us feel and love.

Speaker 4 And like, I mean, even for me, like a lot of my good memories was with my dad.

Speaker 1 And even though it was like stupid shit, random shit, but like it's so important like they will remember all that no the message i was getting from like oh my god this reminds me of my dad he used to brush my hair every day yeah i wish he was still here i miss him i'm like yeah i know

Speaker 4 dude what and they're like oh my god this reminds me i haven't thought about my dad in years because he passed or whatever and this just made me think of him thank you so much for posting this because it made me think of him it reminded me of him and i was like oh my god And see, so it's like you get some stupid people who say dumb shit, but then it's like the other people that say things things or they are like, oh my God, or it makes them feel like, oh my gosh, I had the same or not.

Speaker 4 That's what makes it. It's like, you know, you have like two or three negative comments, and but all the positive ones, I'm like, you know, fuck the haters.

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Well, I just thought it was interesting how like you're literally gonna the like in my I commented a couple people I responded to and I was like listen if this was Kate getting these girls ready none of you would be asking where I am not at all none of you would be asking what's dad doing where's dad why isn't dad getting the girls up for school why isn't dad where's the dad?

Speaker 1 You wouldn't be saying, none of that, dude. None of it.
And then I actually had some pretty, like,

Speaker 1 I think, triggered women saying, yeah, well, my husband works, you know, different job hours. And so, and, so he can't do that.
And I'm like,

Speaker 1 not my fault.

Speaker 1 You're yelling at the wrong guy. Like, you're not even.
You're mad at me. You're like, well, my husband doesn't have the hours you have or else he'd probably do that too.

Speaker 1 And I'm like, in my head, that's why I said, I don't give a shit what your schedule is on the weekends.

Speaker 1 Mom, if mom can't sleep in while you are as a dad who worked Monday through Friday on Saturday morning, you can't curl their hair, brush their teeth, and get them breakfast, there is something wrong.

Speaker 1 I agree. And you need to figure it out because you shouldn't have had kids.
I agree. Because you're not what? What's it for? So, what do you mean? You're not as a big, a big man child.

Speaker 4 No, thank you. I'm like, you said, I'd rather be single.

Speaker 1 You're added pressure. I don't need all this.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 4 Because if you're not helping the kids and shit like that, you know, she's probably has resentments up the ass. She's probably not talking about yelling at him.

Speaker 1 Right. She's

Speaker 1 defending her husband. Like, he doesn't have the hours you have.
And I'm like, dude, okay, man, you're yelling at the wrong. Like, okay, who you mad at?

Speaker 4 But I do have to say, I feel like our generation, millennial generation, that I think it's a good thing

Speaker 4 because, you know, you have, you do see dads being more involved and more hands-on. And what they've even done studies about it where

Speaker 1 I think 33%

Speaker 1 can change a diaper. Or there's some kind of

Speaker 4 they're just more hands-on and they're more involved. And they, you know, I've noticed even when Nova has things at school or Vada and stuff, I see a lot of dads there.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 We're back in the day, it'd be like all moms, you know, so it's like we're doing something different. And

Speaker 4 the females that are just jealous and mad, you should probably find yourself a better partner.

Speaker 1 Talk to your husband and say, hey, because I think a lot of it comes down to like, you're not speaking. Like, hey, I'm feeling really, I'm feeling burnt out.
I feel like I do everything.

Speaker 1 I feel like you're not doing enough or whatever the case is. Just tell him that.

Speaker 4 And if he still doesn't, I was going to say, depending on his reaction

Speaker 4 or his comments, then either divorce papers or say, I'm fucking out of here. I'm already doing it by myself.
I might as well just do it by myself.

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 1 And I also feel like you're doing a disservice to your kids because you're showing them, especially if you're raising girls, I think it's really important you're raising girls and raising boys too, because then they're going to expect to find a girl anyway, a girl like that, you know?

Speaker 1 Just for kids. Just for kids, it's so important to watch the balance.

Speaker 1 They will watch the balance of mom and dad and they will get that well-rounded, full-picture kind of like inspiration about how they're going to be.

Speaker 1 So if you're, if the child only sees a dad working Monday through Friday, coming home, eating, going to sleep. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They're going to, that's what they do.

Speaker 1 They're going to, that means

Speaker 1 the boys are going to find a guy like that. That's okay.
And then deal with the resentments and think, oh, I deserve that. He has resentments.

Speaker 1 I deserve to be feeling like I'm left alone because my mom did it and every other woman did it before me. And then the boys are going to think, oh my God, I don't have to do shit.

Speaker 4 This is what a dad does. Literally, you are teaching your kids.

Speaker 1 Stop. So you need to figure it out.
All you people who are triggered in the comments, bro.

Speaker 4 That's why I love these.

Speaker 4 I've been seeing, I've seen a few uh like reels and stuff of videos that said my kids are gonna remember they always were just they were always asking us to quit flirting with one another.

Speaker 4 They're not gonna ever remember the fighting. And I'm like, so so awesome.
And your kids look at you and that's how they figure out how a relationship is and how it's supposed to work.

Speaker 1 And I'm every time we love each other or something that you see our kids call awhile And then they call you little love birds or like nova's always like you little cuties just oh it's little cuties now she's older yeah and when they when they were younger they've always always ran into the circle.

Speaker 4 Like, they want to join in on the love.

Speaker 1 Because they sense it. I think they can sense

Speaker 1 their wisdom is kind of like more spiritual.

Speaker 4 Even Riotton stays. She'll like peek over, like, oh,

Speaker 4 and then she'll come and

Speaker 4 then she's like, all right, I want to be in the middle of this love fest. And we just let her.
So, yeah, I think it's important. It's important.

Speaker 4 Your kids look at you about how relationships work, how they pick partners, all of that. And I think I'm blessed that our girls have you to look up to.

Speaker 1 I'm blessed that they have you.

Speaker 1 Thanks. Because, you know, I mean, damn.
I just, I think it's going to set them up for. I never saw a balance in my house.
It was my mom by herself and everything. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, and I think when you say my mom was a single mom, yeah.

Speaker 1 And then when she, even when she was with a guy, it was like another man child. Yeah.
You know what I mean? Did you ever see him back? Do you ever see him? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 Like, I mean, I just feel like there's certain

Speaker 4 one do things.

Speaker 1 Well, you know what I mean, though. Like, I feel like the guys that, you know, your mom was with probably wasn't.

Speaker 4 They weren't top tier, that's for sure.

Speaker 1 My poor mom. Yeah.

Speaker 1 But like I said, I think it's one of those things where that's impactful generationally.

Speaker 1 Like, because your mom probably accepted the, kind of accepted the lower class dudes because she saw whatever she saw growing up. You know what I mean?

Speaker 1 So you just kind of accept certain things that you assume or think is normal or okay. Or, oh, well, everyone else did it.
And that's a big, I have a big problem of people going, oh, well, I did it.

Speaker 1 My mom did it. Well, I went through that and I was fine.
It's like

Speaker 1 your whole idea of of shared suffering is weird. It's gross.
I hate it so much.

Speaker 4 And it's almost, it's like our parents' generation.

Speaker 1 It is. Oh, well, I had to pay all my student loans back.
So you should,

Speaker 1 bro. So, what you're saying, and it was such a struggle for you because you're clearly mad about it.
Right. You're like, oh, mad that you had to pay it and this kid doesn't.

Speaker 1 I think it's really weird that you don't want the next generation to have it easier than you did.

Speaker 4 Yeah, to not struggle. What the fuck?

Speaker 1 That's the whole point, bro.

Speaker 4 Echo, shut up. I'll never understand it.

Speaker 1 That's the whole point. The next generation should have it easier

Speaker 1 than you had. Absolutely.
I agree.

Speaker 1 What are we doing here? Evolution?

Speaker 1 I don't know.

Speaker 4 Switzerland, here we come.

Speaker 1 Voltaire's sir. Come and knocking.
I just think it's weird. It doesn't make any sense.
Everyone's idea of like, or even like, for the instance, like for the

Speaker 1 comments about me not having a normal 9 to 5 job. And I'm able to have this luxury of brushing my kids' hair.
It's like, so you believe. Like, you know, your idea of shared suffering is weird.

Speaker 1 Like, oh, you're only worthy of my respect if you suffer the same amount that I had to suffer.

Speaker 4 And what do you mean you insane? We always say, like, we are beyond blessed. Like, we will never, you never get these years back with your children.
I don't know.

Speaker 4 Our children have never had to be in daycare. They've never had to be washed by other people while we work every day.
And we are, we have always said that.

Speaker 4 Like, we are fucking blessed because you will never, ever get these younger years with your kids. And believe me, we know how blessed we are.
Yes. We don't take that shit for granted.

Speaker 4 Like, come on now. Anyone who really knows me and Ty know that we're super fucking humble.
Oh, my God. And like, that means, yes.

Speaker 1 Just all the time. I'm like, yes.

Speaker 4 Speak it out loud. Because we will never get that back.

Speaker 1 Because these years,

Speaker 1 your kids are, I think there's a study that was like, oh, you're going to spend

Speaker 1 75% of your time with your children is done by the age of like 13.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it's sad.

Speaker 1 So after 13, they're hanging out with their friends. But

Speaker 1 20% of the rest of your life is going to be after their children. We have the small window when they're kids that you'll never be able to get back.
And so I don't regret shit. I don't regret nothing.

Speaker 1 I don't. And people are like, oh, well, you know, what did you do? You just were with them every single single day? Yeah, it was.
Yeah, it was.

Speaker 1 We had to

Speaker 1 offer worked or whatever.

Speaker 1 Obviously, I mean, there's times where we had to go out for work for long trips or whatever. But I'm saying, like, in the grand scheme of things, like, no, I'm not.
I'm

Speaker 1 very grateful and I feel very blessed. I'll be able to spend every morning with my children, every night with my kids.

Speaker 1 I never had to sacrifice shit. Right.
And so when they move out and get out, you know what I mean? Whenever

Speaker 1 it's all done and over with, I'm not going to have any regrets.

Speaker 4 I don't care. I'm blessed for it.

Speaker 1 I don't care. So, I mean, it it is what it is.
But no, I just love you. I love you.

Speaker 4 So, anyways, I just want to say a huge thank you to everybody for your love and continued support. Um, it's been, we're really having fun here.
Um, I hope you're having fun, right?

Speaker 1 Yes, I'm having fun. Yeah, I hope so.
I hope people are.

Speaker 7 Because I remember the first time, I'm like, I don't know if they're gonna like want to, like, yeah,

Speaker 1 and then all of a sudden, the episodes we're like, oh, we're interview people, you know, and they're like, Where are you guys? I know, here we are. Calm down.

Speaker 1 I thought 16 years on TV, I thought you right.

Speaker 4 Don't you have enough of just us?

Speaker 1 Like, shit, I I guess not.

Speaker 1 So, so here we are.

Speaker 4 So, yeah, so just, you know, thank you again for your continued love and support.

Speaker 4 And we'll catch you next week.

Speaker 1 Catch you next time.

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