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Speaker 3 Well,

Speaker 3 can you believe we're here? Can you believe this is us? Here we are. Kate and Type breaking down episode one.
I know, right? What are we doing?

Speaker 1 It's been.

Speaker 1 You tell me. I don't know.
It's already been a journey to get here, and we're here.

Speaker 3 I mean, for me, I just feel like we've worked so hard to get here to do this.

Speaker 3 And we have so many like avenues we want to go with it so many it's like adhd yeah it really is adhd podcast version like here watch our brains scramble and just go off of all these different things because i also don't want us to be like we're not going to be interviewing celebrities every week we're not going to be you know what i mean i feel like it's i want to stay real and raw me and you have great conversations even just up in our bed when we're watching t v yeah and i want it to feel like that you know and i think also just giving and giving platforms to voices that aren't typically heard in some situations, I think too, you know?

Speaker 1 Like as far as adoption goes and addiction and adoption, yeah, addiction, marriage.

Speaker 3 Right, because honestly, I feel like, I know with teen mom and stuff, they have a specific, they see what they see, right? Yeah.

Speaker 3 It cuts their whole life into little pieces and they plaster it on TV and that's what you get to see.

Speaker 3 But I feel like with this, it's like people are going to be able to see a different, just a different side.

Speaker 1 And I mean, I hate to say like a deeper side too, because our show and what we've shared is pretty deep. But that still is only the surface level of it.

Speaker 1 We film for months and months and months and then make it into, you know, five little bits here and there.

Speaker 3 And don't you feel like sometimes like it's just like some things just aren't justified. You're like, dude, that could have been explained way better.

Speaker 3 That could have like almost like we don't have enough time. Because we don't.
We don't. I mean, yeah, now what, how many cast members do we have on our show now? Yeah, nine.
Nine.

Speaker 3 Okay, and we used to only have four, so it went more than double, which means our time on screen for each episode gets smaller.

Speaker 3 It's kind of like this is a perfect little kind of thing, we compensate for it.

Speaker 1 Well, because I think also,

Speaker 1 you know, people will be able to listen and we can talk about things that they just recently saw on TV and we can dive deeper into it and talk about the backstory,

Speaker 1 talk about the bigger fallout picture of it if it it wasn't that big on the show.

Speaker 3 You can just expand on things. Yeah.
Because sometimes we'll see clips on TV and we're like, no, it's

Speaker 1 like I can be like, now I can actually say it.

Speaker 3 Record. Okay.
Hey, so we want to mention episode 405. We're going to talk, you know what I mean? It's like we can actually

Speaker 3 get into it, which I think people like who've followed our story for 15 years, they kind of deserve it, I feel like in a way. I don't know why they're interested, but no, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 3 We always say that.

Speaker 3 Are you sure? are we really you really want to hear more from us right are you sure you want

Speaker 3 isn't it hard to kind of like look at yourself in

Speaker 1 that kind of light it is because it's literally just our lives and I'm like I don't ever look at myself in sort of some like spotlight or that oh you're a tabbotty a TV reality star I'm like no it's like oh don't say that yeah it makes you cringe doesn't it say that or they say like oh what's it like to be a celebrity?

Speaker 1 And it's like, no, I'm not the C word. I know we've always said that.
Me to have always said that. Like, do not use the C word.

Speaker 3 Puke. Yeah.

Speaker 3 It's like, I'm literally.

Speaker 1 I feel like no, I'm just literally a normal person with just a normal life.

Speaker 3 I kind of think it's interesting, though, because like it takes a, it takes someone specific to kind of like take yourself out of that viewpoint and look at yourself.

Speaker 3 It requires you to look at yourself in a different light, which is hard for us because we just live our lives. And and then it's like what we think is not that interesting.

Speaker 3 Someone's like, Oh my god, wow, that's and we're like, Oh, you think that's interesting?

Speaker 1 We're like, Yeah, when we get feedback from like producers and stuff, and they're like, What's going on in your life?

Speaker 1 And we're just telling them things, and then all of a sudden they're like, Oh, that's super interesting. I'm like, It is, yeah,

Speaker 3 so it's almost like when remember the producers will call us, and they're like, So, what's going on in your life? And we're like, Oh, this and that, but nothing really too much.

Speaker 3 Like, oh, that's kind of a lot going on. I'm like, Oh, yeah, I guess you're right.

Speaker 1 That's how you, that's when you start to realize, like, maybe my life has been chaos my whole entire life, and I just never knew it. Normal, I'm just used to chaos.

Speaker 1 And I guess chaos is interesting to other people that don't know me.

Speaker 3 But I feel like we've been working on this for a long time.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it's been a good six months to a year, probably.

Speaker 3 And also, before that even happened, we've been having years of just people like, please start a podcast, please start a podcast.

Speaker 3 And it's like, I almost felt like for a minute, it was like, well, who needs another fucking podcast? I know, right?

Speaker 3 There's There's a podcast now about every damn thing under the sun.

Speaker 3 Every show, every, you know.

Speaker 3 But after a while, and especially with how Teen Mom has kind of grown and evolved, I think it's time.

Speaker 1 I think it's the great, I think it's a great time.

Speaker 3 So, Kate and Ty break it down. I mean, we're here to break it down.
A break it down. And break it down.
And it doesn't matter.

Speaker 3 That's why I wanted to, I thought me and you were thinking about what we're going to call it. Yeah.
Kate and Ty, break it down.

Speaker 3 Because I don't want to, I just want to break it down, whatever that is, addiction, adoption, you know.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and just talk about all things that are very broad.

Speaker 3 I'm just excited. I'm excited to do this with you.

Speaker 1 I'm excited to do this with you, too.

Speaker 3 I mean, we're going on, what, 18 years together? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Can you believe that?

Speaker 1 I cannot believe it's been 18 years. It doesn't, like, logically, yeah, I know it's been 18 years, but mentally, I'm just like, it feels like five.

Speaker 3 Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 1 Does that make sense? Like, I don't know. I truly, I feel like, you know, when you find your person, you know that's your person.
And

Speaker 1 here we are. Seventh grade, I said, I'm going to marry that guy and have his kids.

Speaker 3 I remember thinking you were crazy.

Speaker 3 I'm like, damn, you were right. You're like a witch casting a spell.

Speaker 1 I put a spell on you.

Speaker 3 Yeah, you knew. I'm like, what?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And here we are.
You know, now it's crazy to think about, you know, all the things that we have done with each other and what we've created back at home.

Speaker 1 It's something simply amazing. And when I was a little girl, I always dreamed of having what I have now, you know,

Speaker 1 and it's just a blessing to have it.

Speaker 3 Isn't it crazy? Sometimes I'll watch our kids, like just going upstairs to go to sleep. I tell them, I love you, dad, I love you.
And it's just like, dude, this is insane. It is, right?

Speaker 3 Like, I never, ever thought in my life we'd ever have what we have. No.

Speaker 3 And honestly, I mean, and we have to give credit to where it's due, where it's like, I don't think we wouldn't have this specific lifestyle if it wasn't for

Speaker 3 your mom and just the whole MTV experience.

Speaker 1 Which has led to different things like the podcast.

Speaker 1 Like, you know, and that's why I think this podcast will be good because we can dive into deeper things that aren't shown on television, you know, like us speaking to adoptees on the daily like we do because, you know,

Speaker 1 we're being educated more about adoption and knowing how silenced adoptees are.

Speaker 1 And that and also like our other passion projects that we have as far as like reuniting families with lost people, bridging the gap in between family members or cousins or, you know, whatever, like just helping people.

Speaker 1 We always love to help people.

Speaker 1 We love to like educate people and stuff. So this will give us a whole different opportunity to do those things.

Speaker 3 But I also feel like it's important to like address what people,

Speaker 3 what they could expect from, you know, Kate and Ty Break It Down, which is more or less like, I think we talked about a lot about like, I want to explore more about. adoption for one.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And for two, about what that looks like to help people. Like this is what adoption looks like.
This is the industry. This is,

Speaker 3 you know, how important it is for reunification to happen. Yeah.
And

Speaker 3 I just think it's going to give a different,

Speaker 3 you know, viewpoint that I think people are so used to. Like,

Speaker 3 like, you know, they're so used to seeing this beautiful story of like, oh, these kids in crisis and they give their baby away. And now

Speaker 3 it's so awesome. And they get to see herself.
It's like, no, there's a lot of raw, real trauma, pain,

Speaker 3 you know, necessary growth that has to happen, and just the nitty-gritty of all of it.

Speaker 1 Yeah, there's a hard side and a good side. And also, too, it's like, I don't want people that are listening to think, like, oh, it's only going to be an adoption podcast because it's not.

Speaker 1 It's very, very broad. We have, you know,

Speaker 1 multiple people we're wanting to talk to on a whole bunch of different, you know, subjects and stuff. That's why we said in the beginning, like, ADHD.

Speaker 3 Yeah. On crack.

Speaker 3 But hey, that's okay because honestly, I feel like I want listeners to go through the journey with us in real time. I don't really want it to feel like

Speaker 3 we learned something and then now we're just preaching that to them. And like, this is what, you know, I want you to follow us.
Like, we're learning as we go.

Speaker 3 And I think it's kind of cool that they can be on the ride with us as we do it because honestly, we're still learning.

Speaker 1 And incorporating them into different topics that we talk about and asking them to ask us questions about those topics or, you know, bringing fans on to talk about certain situations and bringing on people that are educated in those certain subjects to talk about it.

Speaker 1 I think that kind of stuff will be a lot of fun. Yeah.

Speaker 3 And also marriage stuff.

Speaker 3 I feel like I know Team Mom shows like some of our marriage stuff, but it's like, there's a lot of work that goes into it.

Speaker 1 And it's more or less on the show. They more or less show,

Speaker 1 you know, everything that we're going through with our adoption, our parents' struggles, the struggles of keeping a relationship with your parents.

Speaker 1 It's not, and it's like parenting, but no, they don't really dive deep into the marriage stuff.

Speaker 3 Yeah, which I think, I think it's kind of one of those things where it's like people, we get a lot of positive feedback and comments about, oh my God, you guys have been together so long and you guys are soulmates and it's all this stuff.

Speaker 3 But it's like, there's been so much

Speaker 3 like hardships and growth that had to happen for both of us individually. and

Speaker 3 together, you know, like that led to us having the relationship that we have.

Speaker 1 And a lot of work.

Speaker 3 Work. Like, I think people are like, oh, it's like, it's like, no, there's work involved.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I do believe, though, that, like,

Speaker 3 the work should, you should want to do the work. It shouldn't, like, because when we were doing it, it did it feel like work for you?

Speaker 1 No, it felt like I wanted to learn more and I was curious to learn and to change and to work on things.

Speaker 3 That's what I mean. Like, I feel like when people go, oh, it's hard work.
It's like, yeah, it's hard work when you're, after you're done through it.

Speaker 3 But when you're going through it, it doesn't feel like work. It feels like something you want to do.

Speaker 1 Yeah, it does. It does.

Speaker 3 I have a desire to learn more about you.

Speaker 3 And I feel like if you never, like, if you never would have went to treatment centers and got, you know, your mental health all figured out, I wouldn't have known half the stuff I know.

Speaker 3 You know, I mean, family week at your treatment centers was huge. I mean, I was with your, me and your mom cried.
We held each other. I mean, me and your dad, like, it was a huge, it was a growth.

Speaker 3 It was a, it was a huge, like, catalyst for growth. I felt like I was like, whoa.
I wasn't even expecting it either.

Speaker 1 No, and I don't think a lot of people know too. Like, in our younger years, you know, you and I, we did couples counseling and things of that nature, not just once, but multiple times.

Speaker 3 A lot of people thought we were crazy. Remember my mom's like, you're going to couples counseling? You're 18.

Speaker 1 That was in the beginning, though. And that's what I mean, as far as like we've done it multiple times throughout our relationship.
And that it's okay if you need help.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Because we love each other and we want to be with each other forever. We just want to make sure we're the best versions of ourselves.

Speaker 3 And it's like one of those things where we knew we wanted to be together forever, but we just knew that we almost, it's almost like our souls knew it, but our emotional wisdom needed to catch up.

Speaker 1 It's like, duh, we were little.

Speaker 3 Yeah, duh, we're little.

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Speaker 3 Like, I remember like getting so much backlash from my mom and like certain people saying, you're 18, why are you going to couples counseling?

Speaker 3 People go to couples counseling when they're 30 and 40 in the middle of a divorce. And it's like, no, no, no.

Speaker 1 You should probably do it before you get a divorce.

Speaker 3 Yeah, before you get into all the stupid stuff. Like, yeah, and I also feel like we took our time being engaged.
We were engaged for what, 10 years? Very long time, yeah.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and I, and look at the stuff that happened even after we got married. I mean, I always say that, like, our first year of marriage was one of the hardest

Speaker 3 years of our whole relationship. That was when you had postpartum.
Yep. That was when all that stuff happened with, with, with all that, and it was, it was a lot.
You know what I mean? It wasn't.

Speaker 1 Yeah, plus, like, when you date at a young age and you get engaged at a young age, I don't know, I feel like we did it the right way because we truly got to really know about each other on a deep level.

Speaker 1 And you learn more and more about a person the longer you're with them. So I couldn't imagine like getting in a relationship, dating for five months, getting engaged and then getting married.

Speaker 1 Like that's crazy to me.

Speaker 3 Which we know people who've done that. Yeah.
And it's weird because those people are now in the middle of shit. Right.
On the brink of divorce.

Speaker 3 Like, you know, it's like we definitely knew that that wasn't something we wanted to do, which I feel like.

Speaker 1 Because I didn't feel rushed. It was like, we both know we're committed to each other, you know?

Speaker 1 Why am I rushing to just, you know, get married? Like, I love you, you love me. You don't cheat.
I don't cheat.

Speaker 3 I'll be here tomorrow. You'll be here tomorrow.

Speaker 1 Right. Like, why are we rushing it? What's the point?

Speaker 3 I also feel like we, and I always tell people, like, I wouldn't have had it any other way. I wouldn't have gotten married sooner.

Speaker 3 You know, I wouldn't have got, like, oh, you, why didn't you get married before you had Nova? It's like, because we just didn't.

Speaker 1 And it's actually special she got to be a part of it.

Speaker 3 It was amazing. She's in a little wagon.
I mean, that's like, I couldn't have asked for any better flower girl. Exactly.
Oh, little Nova.

Speaker 1 Seriously. So I think, yeah, I just think,

Speaker 1 I think it's going to be a good journey, and I think it's going to be a fun journey.

Speaker 1 And I'm excited for all these people to kind of go on this journey with us and get to know us on just like a deeper, more intense.

Speaker 1 level and it seems so silly saying i know it does it does because i've shared so much intense crap with cameras and hundreds of thousands of people but it's just different it's more intimate and like who we are, not at a surface level, but just at this deeper level.

Speaker 3 And all the work that's been put in to even get to this point. Which is important.
Yeah, and I feel like people didn't really get to see any of that stuff.

Speaker 3 I mean, yeah, they saw little clips here and there, but it's like, no, there's a lot more going on.

Speaker 1 Well, and that's like when people...

Speaker 1 There is, yes. And then, and that's like when people like notice us on the streets and stuff, and they'll be like, oh my gosh, I just feel like I know you.

Speaker 1 Or sometimes they even say, oh, my gosh, I just know you, you know, and it's like, like I get that you feel like you know me you know because on the surface level you know me but you don't know me to my core what my moral you probably can't tell me what my morals and my values are what my ethics are what my beliefs are

Speaker 3 like there's so much more to me than that yeah and also what's shown on TV and also what you know is through the lens of somebody else yeah and somebody else who thought this was important and that wasn't that important so we're gonna air this instead of that yes and then we're flipping the script you know yeah and i think it get this gives us more just creative control of our own own story.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and I think it'll be fun, too, when episodes air for however much longer we're on TV. I don't even know why we're still on TV.

Speaker 3 We're like old people now.

Speaker 1 But, you know, that now we can watch our show and we can talk about those things after the fact and dive deeper into what was going on in our lives at that time. Yeah.
All of the things.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it just opens up transparency even more, which I think is why we have kind of gained the following that we've had. We've always been transparent.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 I I mean, remember, it's season two, I think, of Teen Mom. You're like, I don't want to film anymore.
This is too intensive of an issue.

Speaker 3 And I remember us both thinking about it, like, well, let's just, let's just see where this goes.

Speaker 3 Like, and I think that was the first time that me and you made it a conscious decision. Like, we will not

Speaker 3 withhold our own story because we're afraid of what the public is going to perceive us like, you know?

Speaker 1 And it's because after all that hard stuff aired, and that was the hard stuff, what, when we were like going through a rough spot and like breaking up or something.

Speaker 1 Yeah, because I gave you like my engagement ring in that restaurant and stuff. We were dramatic little kids.

Speaker 3 No, I'm just kidding. But we were going through a rough spot.
Someone actually wrote me the other day and was like, dude, why did you rip up all those phone records and throw them in the river?

Speaker 3 Oh, yeah, right. Dude, paper's biodegradable.
Calm down. I did not litter.
It's a part of Earth, you know?

Speaker 1 No. But I think because it's when we decided we were like, okay, we'll share it.

Speaker 1 I think seeing the aftermath after sharing all those hard things, seeing the people that related or was like, oh my gosh, I didn't feel so alone or I've been through that.

Speaker 1 And it was like, oh, wow, we're actually helping people when you share the hard stuff. And that's what's important to me is like just not feeling alone.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And also, like, I feel like that actually, that feedback has helped us in a way to kind of keep pushing towards healing.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'll always be authentic.

Speaker 3 I will always be real.

Speaker 1 I will never lie about things being filmed or talking about it. And I, that's the best way to live.
It is.

Speaker 3 Because I'm not one to like put my own skeletons in my closet. Like the closet doors open, let them all fall out.
I'm not doing it. Because honestly, that creates this like disconnection with

Speaker 3 who you are. And I'm like, dude, I'm not doing that.
I think we both agreed early on that we're not going to do that.

Speaker 3 Like we're going to just lay it all out there and not worry about what people are going to think.

Speaker 1 And I think that's what people love about us.

Speaker 3 And I think that's why people relate to us a lot in different areas is because We are really just authentic and upfront with who we are as people and our beliefs and what hurts us and all all every single we're just open books on everything and I also feel like that's not shared among all the cast members yeah I don't think we know and I'm not gonna name but there's a lot of cast members on that on our show that withhold information refuse to cover certain subjects in their life refuse to talk about hard things which I get because I've been there because and it's scary but but I also feel like if you're trying to come in here in and on a reality TV show to share your life

Speaker 3 and you don't want to share certain things you probably shouldn't be in a reality TV show And you should probably double-think, you know, re-evaluate

Speaker 3 what you're doing and what your purpose is. Because if your purpose is to go on reality TV and just

Speaker 3 come across as this perfect, wonderful, amazing, you know, thing, then dude, that's fucking boring TV for one. And for two, that ain't real life.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 3 Like, if you're only willing to show all the good stuff and not any of the bad stuff, then. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Speaking of boring, you know what's funny to me is when I see people comment online and stuff and say that our

Speaker 1 our scenes are boring to watch, part of me is like, thank God it got to a point where it's boring now because my life has been fucking chaos and craziness and I love that it's boring and I can predict day to day what I'm doing and what's happening.

Speaker 3 It's almost like on our show. It's like a blessing to be on our show.
It's a compliment. We're boring.
Like, all right, dude, because

Speaker 3 we only spent 15 years fucking going through the trenches literally behind the camera.

Speaker 1 I'm so happy to be boring. I'm glad you think I'm boring.

Speaker 3 Yeah, we're 32 and now we're boring. Cool, dude.
We made it like that's awesome. And we're in our parenting era.
Yeah, great. I'm glad you think I'm boring.

Speaker 3 Which we're literally in the trenches of our parenting era. Oh god.
Three years old, five years old,

Speaker 3 and almost 10. Like we are in, we're in the middle of it.
We're almost out of it. We're almost there.
So if we look tired, that's why.

Speaker 1 Why my kids look cute and my hair's on a ponytail and I have no makeup on? Well, because I'm, you know,

Speaker 1 dressing three kids, doing three kids' hair, making meals, cleaning my house.

Speaker 3 Yeah, or if one of our kids looks like Mowgli, just ignore it.

Speaker 1 That's what's going on. Because she is Mowgli

Speaker 3 Veda is our Mowgli yeah you know it's she's she just is but yeah that comment I think is funny like they're so boring and I'm like thank you yeah that is I'm so glad you're fine that I'm boring because we literally spent 15 years just like going through crazy shit hell I guess I feel like in a way it's like if people who are if people who are listening who don't really know that much about us or whatever, like what would be what would be your main thing?

Speaker 3 What would you be?

Speaker 1 Okay, here's who we are and where we're at right now like what would you say I think I think I would start off with you know that you and I met when we were in

Speaker 1 started dating really in seventh grade

Speaker 1 so that was middle school we met in in a music class

Speaker 1 and I had a boyfriend at the time Carrie

Speaker 1 I know I remember and you had this whole plan in your head that I did not know about

Speaker 1 and let's just say I eventually broke up with Carrie and you just grabbed my hand and you that's how you asked me out you didn't even ask me out you just grabbed my hand and I was like this is it

Speaker 3 this is it

Speaker 3 when you think about I was so petrified to even ask you out that I just didn't do it I was like I'm not gonna ask her out I'm literally gonna go grab her hand and if she rips her hand away I got my answer

Speaker 3 and you just remember you I grabbed your hand and we were just like

Speaker 1 Staring into the abyss, not even at each other.

Speaker 3 We're just like, cut, cut, cut.

Speaker 1 And then it worked because you didn't let go and I was like all right cool man she digs me all right I never left you never left no so I think the best would be that we are middle school sweethearts who found themselves in an unplanned pregnancy at the age of 16 and

Speaker 1 decided that we were gonna place our daughter for adoption at that age because we were surrounded by toxicity and addiction

Speaker 1 and still kids ourselves.

Speaker 1 And we thought, you know, that she could have a better life somewhere else. And

Speaker 1 from there, we have just just continued to grow with one another and

Speaker 1 love each other through all of our ugly stuff, the good stuff, the hard stuff, the happy stuff.

Speaker 1 And,

Speaker 1 you know, now it's like we have been together for 18 years almost. And we have three beautiful girls that we're parenting and one that we see sometimes.
And

Speaker 1 now it's just...

Speaker 1 It's just crazy to think about where we're at now when I was just a kid being like writing, writing like I love tie on my bell bottom jeans and you know eighth seventh grade you know yeah and

Speaker 1 it's just it's been a while it's been a wild journey but I truly believe

Speaker 1 like I truly believe people some people don't believe in soulmates and stuff and I'm a very I'm a very

Speaker 1 big yeah I'm a very big believer that souls do search for certain souls on this planet and when you find that person

Speaker 1 you just know, yeah,

Speaker 1 and I truly felt like that's what it was for me.

Speaker 1 I think you knew before I did, yeah, and I was just like, I'm

Speaker 1 gonna be with him forever, and I'm gonna have his kids, and I'm gonna marry him one day.

Speaker 1 And I know, and even we broke up for like a good eight-month period, you know, and then obviously reconnected after that.

Speaker 3 And um,

Speaker 1 I don't know, call me hippie, whatever, but I just had this,

Speaker 1 I just had this like spiritual feeling.

Speaker 3 I see, I think, I felt the same thing, but I felt it later on. Like not as fast as you did.

Speaker 3 But I do believe, and we've talked about this before, that there's like, I do believe that everyone on this, you know, earth has some kind of spiritual tribe that they go through life with and they're meant to go through life with in every single different life cycle.

Speaker 3 And I feel like the whole point of each life cycle is to find who those soul tribe members are. Yeah.
Who you're supposed to traverse this life through.

Speaker 3 And I think it's interesting because you do feel it. It's not something, it's like you meet someone, like, oh, we are best friends.

Speaker 3 I don't even know who you are, but I feel connected to you on it in a level I can't explain. And it's like, that's what eventually is what happened with us.

Speaker 3 And I feel like it was right off, right off the bat. Like, you obviously knew before I did, but when I felt it, I was like, oh, my, all right, this is it.
Like, this is no question.

Speaker 3 I had no question in my mind, which I feel like is important because people like will say stuff. We got engaged when we were 17.

Speaker 3 You know, right, right, right. in the crisis.
Yeah.

Speaker 1 And I was in a prom dress. That's the only nice dress I owned.

Speaker 3 No, didn't she have like a leather jacket on her? Like, we didn't have a leather.

Speaker 1 Who knows? Probably. Or my mom's really furry, fuzzy jacket.
Who knows?

Speaker 3 I can't remember, but like, yeah, like, you hit the only dress. I was like, dress fancy.

Speaker 1 I know, and I'm like, huh? Dress fancy. I guess I'll wear my homecoming dress.
I think it was homecoming.

Speaker 3 It wasn't even homecoming. Yeah, it was a homecoming dress.
And then we had to drive the Hoop T-van. that we had that you could only start with a screwdriver which is that my dad rigged

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Speaker 3 Have a great day. It has to be illegal.
Is it illegal? I think so. Start your car with a screwdriver? I think so.
Yeah, I think it is. Well, thank God we never got pulled over.

Speaker 3 Remember, though, it like sawing out in the middle of the stop lights? Yeah. How scary it would be?

Speaker 1 That happened to me and my phone. Don't live.

Speaker 3 Yeah, no. Horrible.
But yeah, like it's one of those things where it's like, that's why, that's why I had to propose at 17, even though everyone thought I was crazy.

Speaker 3 Because I felt that soul thing, it was there. It's like, I wanted to know that, like, I love you, want to be with you for the rest of my life, and that's it.
Yeah.

Speaker 3 And I thought, like, why not, you know? And I remember my mom just being pissed. She was so pissed.
She's like, you're an idiot. What are you doing?

Speaker 1 Your mom actually got, your mom, I mean, in the beginning, like when we were younger in our relationship, your mom actually got mad at me for a lot of things.

Speaker 3 Didn't she? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. And we talk about it now and laugh about it.
But there was multiple times in our relationship where she was like, You're fucking crazy. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Just like when I was forced to move out of my house at the age of, you know, I was about to turn 18. And

Speaker 1 my mom's looking at places, and the landlords are telling my mom, like, well, if she's going to be 18, she has to be on the lease with you, too. And I was thinking in my head, like, fuck that.

Speaker 1 My mom, she don't even, sometimes I don't even pay rent, let alone we're getting evicted left and right. I don't want that on my record, you know.

Speaker 3 I've only been evicted five times this year. Like, how many of you have?

Speaker 1 Yeah. And then when,

Speaker 1 and then I'll never forget when I told you, I said, I'm moving out. I can't do it.
I can't be with my mom. I'm getting my own place.
And you're like, well, I'm coming with you.

Speaker 1 And I'll never forget going to your house and telling your mom that. And she straight up was talking to you.
And then she looks at me and she goes, you need to tell him no. I was like,

Speaker 1 I'm not telling him he has to. You're his mother.
You tell him no. Like, what? How am I? She was so mad at me.

Speaker 3 Do you remember when we got our first apartment and we tried to get Comcast?

Speaker 3 And then we found out that your mom put Comcast in your name, and you were like blacklisted. Yeah.
And we didn't know because we owed like two, remember, they said, Oh, yeah, you owe $2,000.

Speaker 3 Something like that. And Kate's like, remember you being like, Oh, I've never had Comcast.
And they're like, Oh, you had it for like two years. And you're like, What?

Speaker 1 I said, I'm a fucking child, bro.

Speaker 1 I was able to get Comcast in my name when I'm 15, 16 years old. It makes no sense.

Speaker 3 And then we found out that that's because, you know, obviously your mom used your name to put it.

Speaker 1 So that's, you know, that just goes to show you that I was, when all these landlords were like, you need to be on a lease. I'm like, absolutely not, on my own.

Speaker 1 And then I tell you that, and then your your mom is yelling at me, you need to tell him no. I'm like, I didn't tell him yes.
He's just saying he's coming.

Speaker 3 Like, what do you want to do? I remember telling my mom, I was like, yo, mom, I'm moving out with her. I don't know what I don't know.
You can't stop.

Speaker 1 You would have been there all the time, anyways.

Speaker 3 Your girlfriend's got her own apartment. Yeah, and I had a car.
Yeah. And I don't think you had a car at that point.

Speaker 1 No, you were probably still driving me around.

Speaker 3 Yeah, because you didn't want to get your license. I know.
I had to say, hey, you got to get your license eventually. Why? You can just drive me around everywhere.

Speaker 1 I know. So crazy.

Speaker 3 All the crap. Remember me times you had a drive and parking in the parking lot? I think it was across the street from Holy Cross.
Oh, that

Speaker 3 parking lot, and you were horrible at parking.

Speaker 1 You know, I still am. What did I do today?

Speaker 3 You've been in a curb today. The curb hit me.

Speaker 1 The curb hit me.

Speaker 3 And then when you hit the curb,

Speaker 3 you kept turning the wheel towards the curb. I said, you can't get closer to the curb.
I know you're going to get it. You hear the grinding in the metal.

Speaker 3 We're there. It's done.
I know.

Speaker 1 And then you turned it away, and I was like, oh, I didn't know you had to do that. Oh, God.
And I've been driving for years.

Speaker 1 So it is funny. I think it's going to be funny to dive deeper into all of these little things.
Like just even stuff that we did and went through before cameras were even a part of our life.

Speaker 3 I think people forget that too. Like, you know, we lived a whole 15 years of our life before cameras were ever involved.
Right. It's a whole thing.

Speaker 1 And I think that'll be fun, like giving more backstory to who we are and what we went through and different,

Speaker 1 you know. hard stuff we went through as kids and growing up and just all of the all of the things all of the things

Speaker 1 as people can see i'm gonna gonna say it again because as we've been conversating we're all over the damn place are we yes

Speaker 1 it's ADHD on crack okay basically that's something

Speaker 1 who knows one week we might be talking about marriage next week might be talking about traumas we went through before camos are around or even good things or who the fuck knows we're just we're here for the ride I feel like what our main thing is is speaking about things that we're passionate about and not like we're you know doctors or psychologists or therapists even it's literally or adoption experts or whatever no it's literally just like being getting educated on ourselves about things bringing people in who are educated on it talking about things that we're passionate about and that make us feel good and make us feel like we're doing a difference in in the world really yeah and also like i think it's cool that we're gonna be able to dive into like how we parent like i know that they see our children on tv

Speaker 3 but you don't see the little talks that we have with our kids no only maybe i think they've only seen like three or four talks.

Speaker 3 Yeah, like, and you know, that's a whole different like ballgame because we that needs to be a whole episode. Yeah, because we literally don't know.
We never seen parenting the way we parent.

Speaker 3 We had to like develop our own parenting style from the ground up. Yeah, so even though I had no example, you had no example.

Speaker 3 Like, so I remember when we first had Nova, it was scary. Like, it felt scary to like, okay, now I got to just figure this out.
Like, I didn't have a dad. I don't even know how to be a dad.
Right.

Speaker 3 I never had a dad. Like, I don't even know what that's that's like, right? You know what I mean? Like,

Speaker 3 so, talking about all of that stuff, yeah, I think it's important because uh, it gives more context to like who we are as people.

Speaker 3 Yeah, and honestly, I want people to know that we're still a work in progress, and I think we'll always gonna be a work in progress. So, like, human, yeah, you just gotta like just hang on.

Speaker 3 We're gonna, you're just gonna take this ride with us, and it's gonna be

Speaker 3 fun, and it's gonna probably, you know, if we fail, we fail.

Speaker 1 You know me. I just have to have a...

Speaker 3 Yeah, well, failure is part of success. Yes, sir.

Speaker 1 I'm just kidding. I had to throw it was like the perfect opportunity to just spit it out.

Speaker 3 And I honestly think we need to get

Speaker 3 our family members on here. Oh, for me.
I definitely got to get my dad on here. Your sister? Yeah,

Speaker 3 let's dive into some shit.

Speaker 3 I think it'd be cool to get.

Speaker 1 I don't talk to any of my siblings.

Speaker 3 You can talk to your sister Amber. Okay, you have a sister Amber.
Yeah,

Speaker 1 that's the only one out of five.

Speaker 3 But yeah.

Speaker 1 I think my grandma would be a good one, too.

Speaker 3 Your grandma would be dead.

Speaker 3 Get your grandma on here. Yeah.
Get Deb on here. Yeah.
Deb is fucking here.

Speaker 1 Aunt Dawn would be hilarious. All these people don't even know who these people are.

Speaker 3 Well, they're about to.

Speaker 1 Yes, they will.

Speaker 3 You just got to stay tuned for that.

Speaker 1 But yeah, so it's going to be very broad, and I like that. I don't want to be talking about the same thing every single week.

Speaker 3 Or being boxed into like

Speaker 1 just adoption.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I just want it to be, I want it to flow, and I want it to be kind of like how me and you are when we're up in our bedroom for two hours.

Speaker 3 I remember my mom's like, what do you guys do up there?

Speaker 1 Yeah, the other day she said yeah, she's like, what do you guys go up there?

Speaker 3 I thought you guys went to sleep. I'm like, no, we sit there and talk for two hours.

Speaker 1 Yeah, or watch TV.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I also feel like, like, we've been together for so long, so how the hell can we keep talking that much at the end of the day? It's like, love is love.

Speaker 3 Except when I go on my little tangent. So we just got to bear with me, people.
I have a lot of little

Speaker 3 branches that I have to talk about.

Speaker 1 If he starts going too hardcore, we're just going to have to get a light or something or like a buzzer.

Speaker 3 They're just like, meet me.

Speaker 3 Maybe after a couple episodes, listeners would be like, yeah, you know what, Tyler? Your wife's right. Get the damn red button.
You got to have a red button. Shut up.
You're talking about.

Speaker 3 Or a shut up button.

Speaker 1 When you press it, it's like, shut up. Shut up.
Yeah, you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 I need that shit. I need that shit so bad.

Speaker 1 I'd be using that thing on the daily, not even just on the podcast for you and Nova.

Speaker 3 Oh, Nova. Shut up.
She's a lot like like me when it comes to that. She is.
Yes.

Speaker 3 Don't you love that, though?

Speaker 1 I do.

Speaker 3 I do love that about her. Yeah,

Speaker 3 she's a pretty cool kid.

Speaker 3 All of our kids are great. I think it'd be kind of fun even to get her on the podcast.
Oh, she would be a blast. Wouldn't she? Yes.
Like, even maybe give her her own segment.

Speaker 3 Like, you know, once she's in the middle of the Nova's or something. Yeah.
Did you know? Yeah. Nova's.
Did you know?

Speaker 1 Yeah, you know, she always does this. You do the same thing, but she does it too all the time.

Speaker 3 But it'd be funny to hear a kid's perspective. Because she's always coming up to me with these facts.
I'm like, dude, Nova, where did you?

Speaker 1 And then I'll Google those facts and she's always right. I know.
I know. And then it blows my mind.

Speaker 3 Yeah. I know.
Cause she'll actually come to me and be like, she'll tell me things that like I didn't even know or that I'll debate and she'll be like, I'm like, dang, you got me there.

Speaker 3 You really got me. Yep.
I can't explain that.

Speaker 1 No, and then I'll Google them because I'm like, there's no way in fucking hell that's real.

Speaker 1 Or that's true. And then I Google them and I'm like, oh, shit.

Speaker 3 She was right. I know.
It's crazy. She's a smart kid.
She is. She's awesome.
She's really smart. I freaking love her.

Speaker 3 But honestly, I feel like, so so I think going forward, like, I have a couple people figured out, and I think it's important for people to know going forward that you're going to bring on guests or people that, you know,

Speaker 3 for things that you find interesting. I have a couple people lined up, you know, neuroscientists.

Speaker 1 I was going to say, because also you and I have a lot of the same interests, which is good. Yeah.
You know, like, yeah. So you have that neuroscientist who's

Speaker 3 trying to give like just random examples of what people can expect. But, like, you know, I have a neuroscientist who's an adoptee.

Speaker 3 I have a

Speaker 3 psychedelic expert psychologist that I would like to bring on

Speaker 3 and just talk about different methods I think we've gone through enough therapy ourselves to where I think people need to know these other alt alternative methods like you know and I think even the therapy world alone is growing and evolving and changing and I think that's something that I want to use this platform to get out there.

Speaker 3 Absolutely. And just show people that this is what is available to you now.

Speaker 3 And

Speaker 1 I would love to have Dr. Mike Dowell come on and talk about just like, you know, trauma and the way that it shapes you and your brain.
And even that neuroscientist would be good for that. Yeah.

Speaker 1 Also just like different people, maybe even some people that, you know, like we have some ideas in our head of people that aren't even known, but we can have really great conversations with these people and bring awareness to a lot of different situations.

Speaker 1 So yeah, there might even be people on here that you never heard of, but now you go and look them up and you're like, oh, whoa.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 3 I think we've had enough life experience to where we can attack a lot of different,

Speaker 3 we can just attack a lot of different subjects, a lot of different things. Yeah.
That I think people will find. Isn't that kind of sad?

Speaker 1 Because we're still young, but we have been through so much.

Speaker 3 We're young?

Speaker 1 Yes, I'm 30. Yes.

Speaker 3 Is 32 young?

Speaker 1 We're definitely young. To have as much

Speaker 1 life experience as we've had and all of the crap we've been through, we've been through a lot.

Speaker 3 Well, I'm 32, but I feel 55 or whatever.

Speaker 1 Like, mentally, you mean, yeah, yeah, like mentally, like wiseness, you mean, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 I mean, I'm 32, but I feel like we live like a life with a 50-year-old or something.

Speaker 1 That's what I mean, because we've been through so many things in our lives that you do, you feel, or maybe we were just born with old souls.

Speaker 3 Yeah, maybe, I don't know.

Speaker 1 Because I swear, that's like Nova's got an old soul.

Speaker 3 She does, yeah, she's pretty wise for her age. Nearly home, isn't home where we all want to be?

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Speaker 3 That's why it was funny when we were talking to Kale. And I was like, yeah, it's the whole Stardust thing.
And she was like, no way. And she Googled it.
I'm like, see, dude, I told you. It was right.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 You know, exactly. You wouldn't think that.
People look at us like we're crazy.

Speaker 3 You can get Neil deGrasse Tyson on here. That'd be so funny.
You would love that. I would be, dude.
Now you talk about fangirling. I'd be like, oh my God.
I'd be tripping out.

Speaker 3 Wouldn't that be so dope?

Speaker 1 I mean, you could always reach out to him.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I got, I also reached out to

Speaker 3 Dan McClone, which is, he's a, um, he's a scholar of the Bible and all religions. And and I want to get him to talk on here.

Speaker 3 Yeah, I want to, I want to make this platform multi-like, I just want, I want different, different avenue. I don't want it to be boxed in by anything, not at all.
That's

Speaker 3 a story, yeah. I don't want to be restricted by beliefs.

Speaker 1 I want it to be I want to be able to just hop on one day and be like, dude, those kids draw me fucking insane today. You want to know why, and then tell you the story, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 I want it to be all over.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's, I mean, it's what it's what we're, you know, what we're doing it for.

Speaker 1 So it's been a long time coming, it has, but I feel like it's gonna feel good to just

Speaker 1 talk yeah and you talk a lot so

Speaker 1 I don't think Lucy's gonna have any issue with that you don't think I'm gonna have issue with talking no not at all well you know okay well

Speaker 3 in the relationship I'm definitely more of the introverted keep to myself type person yeah but I wish I had more of your like you're so like chill and like it's the Pisces

Speaker 3 and like when someone asks you traumatized Pisces in me I guess I should say you're just fluid you're just like chill and like I don't know. People ask you a question, you're like, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 And I'm just like,

Speaker 3 oh, yeah, you get all the stuff. Like, I almost feel like I'm hyper-wired and you're just like, chill.

Speaker 1 I'm definitely more go with the flow. Yeah, and you're more.
See, I wish I had more of that. All over the place.

Speaker 3 I respect your ability to like just be.

Speaker 3 Where I'm always like,

Speaker 3 all over the damn fucking place.

Speaker 1 And I respect your ability to, you know, see and ask.

Speaker 1 And uh,

Speaker 3 because I'm just not. Even though you get tired of it, don't you? Don't I get annoying after a while?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't say it's annoying. I just feel like when you.

Speaker 3 How is that possible? I annoy my fucking self in my head. So how the hell do you not get annoyed?

Speaker 1 Because I'm not like that, maybe.

Speaker 1 But it doesn't annoy me. Now, when you go on like rants about

Speaker 1 science stuff and

Speaker 3 don't hate on science, man. I'm not.

Speaker 1 I'm not.

Speaker 3 But I can only listen for so long.

Speaker 1 And then after a while, I'm like.

Speaker 3 I'm not interested. To a point.
And then you just clock out, don't you?

Speaker 1 Sometimes, yeah.

Speaker 3 You do. That's why I say blue monkey.

Speaker 1 Oh, God. You knew this blue monkey shit.

Speaker 3 I'm telling you, man. I want everyone to try it.

Speaker 1 My word for you, it's going to be like green pig.

Speaker 3 I listen very intently. I will always pick up

Speaker 3 on your green pig shit. Yes, I will.

Speaker 3 You say green pig. Test me.

Speaker 3 I will. All right, good.
Do it. I always listen with intent.
It's important. Duh fuck.

Speaker 3 Yeah, start that trend.

Speaker 1 I thought about doing it to you.

Speaker 3 You should have done it. TikTok.
I know. We're going to get into that.

Speaker 1 You always say I suck at acting.

Speaker 3 You're pretty bad.

Speaker 3 Like when you act like something bad, like, oh my God, I'm like, dude, no, nothing's going on. Because what you do is you go, oh, your face gets more animated than ever in real life.

Speaker 3 I'm like, dude, that's no.

Speaker 1 I won't be able to trick you with any trends or anything because you just know me too well.

Speaker 3 You just got to be really good, get better at acting. Because you do something.
I don't know.

Speaker 1 I don't even know how that's possible.

Speaker 3 Well, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 3 We're gonna get on this new TikTok trend too, because I'm a new TikToker. It's kind of fun.
We made some of the stuff. It is kind of fun.
We did the little leg thing.

Speaker 1 Oh, fuck that one.

Speaker 3 The whole dance over the stars.

Speaker 1 Yeah, fuck that one.

Speaker 3 Your leg literally collapsed like an accordion.

Speaker 1 You were giving me Indian burns.

Speaker 3 I had to grab hold of your ankle. Well, it fucking hurt.
Well, I had to get a hold of that motherfucker and yank it.

Speaker 1 You and Macy did great. I'd watch that 10 times before I ever do it again.

Speaker 3 I know, I didn't get to see me and Macy do it. Like, it looked, was it smooth? It felt smooth.
Yeah, it looked smooth, yeah.

Speaker 1 All right, cool. I mean, not as, like, crazy.

Speaker 3 No, they showed me the original video of this whole dance, and she was like arching her back. She was like a fucking rising ballerina from the dead or something.
I'm like, what the fuck?

Speaker 1 She's probably fit as fuck, obviously. She's a dancer.

Speaker 3 That takes some core.

Speaker 1 Yeah, she's a dancer. I ain't got none of that.

Speaker 3 No, you're.

Speaker 3 First off, when I'm looking down at you, your tits are pretty much suffocating. They are.
We're going to pull your ass up and your leg just collapses.

Speaker 1 You see, my tits are in my eyes.

Speaker 3 I mean, reduction, you ever thought about it? I know you talked about it.

Speaker 1 I've definitely thought about it a lot. Yeah, I'm just a sissy bitch.

Speaker 3 About what? About getting cut open?

Speaker 1 Yeah.

Speaker 1 Yeah. Yeah, and the pain afterwards.

Speaker 1 Four kids. Yeah, but it's weird.
How come anytime I've ever had surgery, I always end up fucking having anxiety after?

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 1 Weird thing.

Speaker 3 But I feel like after four kids ripping through your vagina walls, yeah, I think you could fucking get your tits cut off.

Speaker 1 Probably. I mean, there is like a cheer mom at my cheer place and she got a reduction.

Speaker 3 She did? Yeah.

Speaker 1 Okay. She said it was the best thing she's ever done and she said recovery wasn't that bad, but I'm still scared.
And also they move your nipples and what happens if my nipples

Speaker 3 and falls off. What do you whoa whoa? What do you mean they move your nose?

Speaker 1 Sometimes they'll have to like sometimes they will like cut your nipples off, like replace them.

Speaker 3 What the fuck are you talking about?

Speaker 1 And then if that dies,

Speaker 1 then you're going to have me a nipple-less, nipple-less boob.

Speaker 3 A nipple-less titty? Like, no, dude. Okay, I did not, I don't know.

Speaker 1 That's almost like when people get, what is that called? Mastectomies?

Speaker 3 Is that what that's called? Yeah.

Speaker 3 Like my trans friend, you know,

Speaker 1 he got a, he got his boobs chopped off, and they took the nipples off of his breasts and sewed them back onto his chest.

Speaker 3 In a different spot. Well, no, no, not where your nipples would be.

Speaker 1 Well, because no, you can't do that.

Speaker 3 No, but you're saying the tubes off. So now it's flat.

Speaker 1 You have to sew the nipple back onto the chest. And he even said, like, that,

Speaker 3 fuck.

Speaker 1 You know,

Speaker 1 sometimes

Speaker 1 it's like a skin graph almost. So if the skin decides to not take, your nipples are going to fall off or die.
The skin would die. So I'm like, why do you have to move my nipples?

Speaker 1 And then I just end up like a nipple-less titty girl.

Speaker 3 Listen, I will still love you. With no nipples? Nipple-ess titty girl.
I would cry. I don't think that's going to happen.
I really don't. What are the odds of the nipple getting cut off? Come on, die.

Speaker 3 I don't know.

Speaker 1 I could be just dogging in my ass.

Speaker 3 I think you are. Anyone who's had a reduction, can you please confirm or deny if this is like...

Speaker 1 Reach out to me on Instagram.

Speaker 3 Nipple is titty girl.

Speaker 1 Yeah, I'm about to. I need to look it up because I swear to God.

Speaker 3 I think you're thinking of a different surgery or something, to be honest.

Speaker 1 I don't know. All I know is I just, I mean, nipples are weird.

Speaker 3 But how do you know where to place it? Because everyone's perceptions are different. This doctor might be like, I think it was better over here.

Speaker 3 And then this girl's like, no, I think it was better over there. Like, what the fuck? How do you determine where the fuck the nipple goes?

Speaker 1 Yeah, right. Do you want to have to be up? Like, let me stand up.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Right.
Are you going to have like one nipple up here?

Speaker 3 Because you lay down somebody and stand up. It's like, whoop,

Speaker 1 then you got googly eyes looking at you. Oh, shit.

Speaker 3 Mismatch nipples. Oh, my God.

Speaker 3 Do you need a remove?

Speaker 1 Also, I really would like to bring, um,

Speaker 1 I really would like to bring Nolan on here.

Speaker 3 Yeah, bring Nolan on here.

Speaker 1 Um, and that is my friend.

Speaker 3 Because he's in the middle of transitioning, and I think it'd be kind of cool to.

Speaker 1 Yeah, and he's towards the end of his transition. So I think it would be interesting.
Oh, really? I mean, yeah, he got top surgery done, and that was as far as he wanted to go with it.

Speaker 3 But let me ask you a question. Is it like a, do you know if, like, has Nolan told you at all about that kind of stuff?

Speaker 1 As in, what do you mean?

Speaker 3 Like, I don't know if he's mentioned, like,

Speaker 3 how do you know when there's an end to a transition?

Speaker 1 It's as far as they want to go.

Speaker 3 Oh, okay. All right.

Speaker 1 Some, you know, some people are like, I want to go fully for it and do bottom surgery and all. Okay.
And other people are like, no, I'm okay with that.

Speaker 3 Yeah. And by the way, people who don't know, Nolan is a close friend of Kate's who.

Speaker 1 Yeah, he's trans and he's, you know, he has a partner and a baby.

Speaker 3 Yeah. Yeah.
Pretty interesting story.

Speaker 1 It is very interesting, and it's crazy because these people walk around us on the daily, and I never would have known that Nolan was trans unless he told me.

Speaker 3 Wow.

Speaker 1 You know what I mean? Like, I, and he's a great person. Yeah.

Speaker 3 A great person.

Speaker 1 So, no, nipples are not usually removed during breast reduction surgery. Okay.

Speaker 3 I told you, man.

Speaker 1 So, is it a lift or something? I don't know. I'm just afraid of my nipples falling off.

Speaker 3 Your nipples ain't gonna fall off.

Speaker 1 What if you can't feel your nipples anymore?

Speaker 3 Do you care? You don't let me touch them anyway. You get all like,

Speaker 3 shut up. Don't tell people.

Speaker 3 Which I think is bullshit. Let me just fuck around a little bit.

Speaker 1 You're like, no, it's too much.

Speaker 3 No, I don't like it.

Speaker 3 Lame.

Speaker 3 So, see, your nipples are safe. You will never be a nipple-less titty bitch.

Speaker 1 Oh, I guess, like, some people will, well, this is what Google says, but sometimes you can, like, resize your nipples.

Speaker 1 Like, say, if you're like a person that has really big, come on, you've seen a big-ass salami nipple before.

Speaker 3 Yeah.

Speaker 1 I mean, so Google is saying sometimes.

Speaker 3 No shades and no salami nipples. I just, you know, ain't my thing.

Speaker 1 Your face was definitely shade, bro.

Speaker 1 But I'm just saying, I would, I'm just saying, if I didn't like how big my nipples were, I guess I would like to resize them if I'm getting a reduction.

Speaker 3 Resize your nipples. I think they're normal and fine.
Don't be fucking crazy, okay?

Speaker 1 I wouldn't do that for myself. I'm just saying.
It was interesting to me because Google said that

Speaker 1 they can reduce the size of your nipple to restore a more round and normal looking shape while you're getting a reduction.

Speaker 3 I mean, I know dudes have like gyno and stuff like that, but.

Speaker 1 Oh.

Speaker 3 Like, I don't know. Anyway, whatever.
We're getting. What the fuck? See what I'm saying? ADHD on crack.
We're talking about nipples now.

Speaker 1 See, because we can't talk about a certain topic together and then not dive in deep into it.

Speaker 3 Well, now you're Googling nippley titty bitches. So yeah, I was.

Speaker 1 I was not Googling nipply titty bitches. I was looking it up as if, do they move your nipples when you get a reduction? And I got the answer of no.

Speaker 1 I thought that they would have to do that because these bitches are like orangutan tits.

Speaker 3 I mean they are.

Speaker 1 They're like in my armpit if I don't have their arms.

Speaker 3 They're not a weapon in themselves. Oh, I've slapped you with them before.
I know. It's actually dense.

Speaker 1 What the shit we're going to talk about.

Speaker 3 Anyway, but listen, okay, so stay tuned for part two of big titty bitch.

Speaker 1 No, I'm just kidding.

Speaker 1 And we'll see, you know, by the end of this journey if Kate gets a reduction or not. Just kidding.
I don't know. It might happen one day.

Speaker 3 Maybe.

Speaker 1 My back hurts.

Speaker 3 Yeah, it's a daily struggle.

Speaker 1 It is.

Speaker 1 I think that's actually a good thing to talk about, too. So I'm excited for it.
I think we're going to have fun. It's going to be funny.
I'm sure there's going to be tears. There's going to be laughs.

Speaker 3 Don't make me cry. Please don't make me cry.
I can't talk.

Speaker 1 I know, but I'm just saying.

Speaker 1 There's going to be tears. There's going to be laughter.
There's going to be funny things. Probably things that are going to be said that people don't agree with.

Speaker 3 And we're used to that. Controversy sells.

Speaker 1 Mm-hmm. But I'm looking forward to this journey with you, and I think it's going to be fun.

Speaker 3 And I think we're going to learn a lot through it.

Speaker 1 And I think other people can learn a lot of different things too.

Speaker 3 Yeah, just stay in the ride with us and have fun. So you can find Kate and Ty Break It Down and wherever you find your podcast, Apple, Spotify,

Speaker 3 Instagram, Kate and Ty Break It Down on Instagram and TikTok and all that good stuff.

Speaker 1 Yeah, we're on every social media platform and it's Kate and Ty Break It Down.

Speaker 1 And I look forward to chatting with people on those web pages and asking questions and getting feedback. So definitely reach out to us.

Speaker 3 Yeah, reach out to us in DMs and comments and let us know what you want us to talk about. Love you.
Love you. Beach.
And we're out.

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