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Head over to your nearest Boost Mobile store and make the most out of your tax refund you know they got the kaleos came back walter wal Walter Nolan. What do we think about this guy? Good pick? The tackle.
Like you said, though, once you get past those first seven, eight picks. Now, is anybody there that you wasn't expecting to be there.
Yeah, right.

That's what makes it hard.

I mean, I'm taking the best available player,

but all of a sudden you're expecting somebody to go 7

or you're expecting somebody to go 10,

and here they are sitting there 13, 14,

even though I might not need that.

Yep, yep.

The best team in the draft is on the clock.

You look at Philly. Philly had Fletcher Cox.
They had Brandon Graham, but they still selected D-linemen. They get Jalen Carter.
They get Jordan Davis. They get this one and that.
They get an edge rusher to go with. It's like, what are you doing? And look what won them the Super Bowl.
It was the defensive line getting after Patrick Mahomes because you've got no answer for it.

When you've got five, six guys, you can go deep on the defense.

The funny thing about that game is the Eagles front four

were able to get to Patrick Mahomes at will.

They didn't blitz the whole damn game.

Not once.

Not once.

But, Joe, you know this.

To get a team out of cover two, you've got to run them out of it.

You can't throw a team out of cover two.

No.

You've got to run them out of it. And so what happened is, and Philly played the long game, they're going to get impatient.
They ain't going to stick with the run. I know they ran it the first three players.
They got a first down. But they're not going to stick with it.
Now, once you fall behind and you don't want to stick with the run, you play until they hold. Big man just say, just go hunt.
Don't even worry about the run. Well, he knew their defensive line was such a bad matchup for the Chiefs' O-line that even if they tried to stick with the run, they wouldn't be consistent enough to move it down the field.
You've got to be in a situation where you play the Eagles, you need to be second, you need to be third and short. You know, you need to get five yards.
I don't want to see third and long as a tackle. No.
Not a count. Nah.
You need to, you know, you've got to stay positive. That's right.
You can't have a false start. You can't play behind the sticks when you play against the Eagles.
Hold on. They just got the defensive end from the Eagles.
Number 94, he should have been the MVP. He's not there at the Eagles.
Remember, he went with Shane Stakin. They're stacking.
Fallon on the D-line. Looks like Walter may need a bigger hat, though.
I don't think he was expecting to be an Arizona Cardinal. He might need an eight.
I think that's a seven of the quarter, Joe. That might be a six and a quarter.
Hey, look. Hey, just go ahead and unlock it.
I think the Bengals are taking Sanders. James Pierce? Where is he from? Edge Russia.
From who? Where? Tennessee. Okay.
They definitely need defense. They definitely need defense.
But the question is, don't you? I didn't. I didn't know that one.
Oh, here we go. Here we go.
Wow. What is he? Edge.
Edge. We're going defense.
It doesn't matter. Huh? They have a little Trey Hendrickson.
Yes. Green Bay? Because they're not going to sign him to the contract he deserves.
Why are you holding him hostage? They want a first-round pick. Nobody's giving you a first-round pick for a 31-year-old guy.
Yeah, and a guy that they're going to have to pay, right? They've got to pay him, and they've got to give a first-round pick, and he's probably not going to last that long. Watson.
Yeah, but I mean, that's the Bengals, though. They're just stubborn.
This has this guy. Well, the thing is, they wait until the umpteenth hour.
That's right. Just think about it.
If you give Jamar Chase, you had to end up paying $30 more million. Right.
You got to pay him more if you wait. And if you already know he's the guy, why not pay him? And he won the Triple Crown.
So how much do you think you was going to pay him? Chase. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Same thing with T. Yep.
Yep. And now you got T.
You got Hendrickson. Hendrickson's like, bro, the market is 30-plus middle 30s.
Yeah. Yeah.
17 and a half sack back-to-back years. Right.
First team all pro. I was in deep.
He's got nobody around him either. Imagine if he was on a defensive line like the Eagles or pair him with Miles Garrett, like other guys that are going to pull some blocks.
If I'm Washington. Now, you hear that Washington might be in play with T.J.
Watt. But if I can't get T.J.
Watt, I'll give up a third or a fourth-round pick for Richardson. Yeah.
Yeah, yeah. You need to go ahead and load up before Jayden Daniels comes up.
That's right. That's right.
You see where the contracts are now. $60 million.
Jayden Daniels is going to be at $65, $70 million. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, for sure. The way the salary cap's rising easily.
Yes. Yes.
Let's right. You see where the contracts are now.
$60 million. Jay and Dan is going to be at $65, $70.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, for sure.
The way the salary cap's rising easily. Yep.
Yes. So you got to win and stack your team right now before you have to pay him.
Or do like Philly. You see what Philly do? Philly signed their guys at the top of the market, and then in two years, they look at that contract like, wow, he really underpaid.
Hey, they catching him early. They catching him early.
They got Lane Johnson tied up. They got Jurgensen tied up.
They got Dickinson tied up. They got Maulata tied up.
They got Jalen Hurts tied up. They got Devontae and A.J.
Brown tied up. You know that big guy coming.
Jalen Carter. Back up that brink struck.
He finna go past the D lineman from Kansas City, Chris Jones. Chris Jones about 31 and a half.
Yeah. He about to go 33.
Yeah. He 34.
Absolutely. Yeah.
Well, Eagles have been smart about signing guys early. You know, I think it's really important.
You got them in the building. If you know what they're going to be, mock them up before everybody else finds out.
Their timing and ability to do that has been impeccable.

And it's paid off dividends.

What helped them is Jalen Carter didn't come back his last year in shape.

And he didn't play like he played the year before.

Had he come back in shape, he's the first pick in the draft, not the 10th pick in the draft.

And so Philly got a steal.

They got a guy that had first pick talent, great, and the 10th pick. Right, right.
And so Philly got a steal. They got a guy that had first pick talent at the 10th pick.

Yeah.

You pick it then.

What do we think?

I think they're going to edge.

They're going to defense.

Listen, we're going to defense no matter what.

Stewart.

It took Stewart Stewart A&M

Okay

I like it

I like it

And the linebacker's upset

He want more money

Hey

What's 57 name?

Jermaine Pratt

Yeah, Pratt

Pratt want more money

I want more money

You picked the wrong year to want more money

Because you had a down year

I was going to say

But he ain't going to get it

Thank you. Pratt want more money.
I want more money. I want more money.
You picked the wrong year to want more money because you had a down year. I was going to say, Shamar, Shamar, but he ain't going to get it.
You know, the Bengals, they love making an example out of people. Oh, man.
I like this. Y'all didn't have no choice but to go defense.

We don't.

We don't because the problem with us is we can't beat nobody because if we score 60 points, the other team scores 65.

Yes.

We ain't got no choice.

Guess what?

You should go defense in second round, too.

Matter of fact, every pick we got, the whole draft got to be defense.

65-267, don't you?

Well, they got to show the highlight over the left tackle, didn't they? Oh, boy. Nice arm over.
Let's see what he got. Ooh.
Quick first step right there. Okay.
Nice. Hey, did you pinch him? Ouch.
Here we go. Versatility playing on the other side.
Nice. Let's see what he got.
Okay, he'll head up. Come on, man.
Y'all ain't late to bed. Split you.
Oh, you go. Here we go.
Oh, you got to set you? Come on, guard. He ain't going to blame me.
I can't blast the guard. That's right.
You get that on college football where they line up in those fronts and they don't know who they got. Oh, here we go.
With the hat on. Steelers.
Oh, wow. That was a hug.
Watch out. Roger's getting old now.
You got to be careful. That was aggressive.
They finally hit him. They're saying, yeah, they're not picking Roger up.
Roger said, no, don't pick him no more. Come on.
Look at him. He's messed up his hair.
Messed up his hair. Man, he shook Roger so hard, he's messed up his hair.
I like, Coach, I really like this pick for y'all. Y'all need an edge.
Because Harvard's too Hubbard's retired Yeah They're not letting Trey go down I mean Do you think they work something out? With Trey? Yeah Work a trade out That's what he should have done It's getting a little late They want those trades to happen before the draft Yeah That's why I think That's why I think he might not be going anywhere. I'm not sure what they're going to do.
But if Hubbard's gone, this is your answer to replace Hubbard. Yeah, you got him to replace Hubbard, but you need what's going on on the other side.
He's going to be there. We ain't got no choice.
We don't have no choice at this point. But the thing is, he ain't going to want to play on that, what do you make, 12 and a half, 13 mil.
Uh-huh. That's it.
And he see the draft, the going rate for a line, edge rusher, 30 mil, 35. Yeah.
Yep. That's where it's at.
Yes. Yep.
Because you're in Michael. Michael said today, hey, the market is $35.
Yeah. The market is $35.
That's what it is. I can't go into McDonald's and say, I'll give you $2 for that Big Mac.
$6 now. Sorry.
Look at Miles Garrett. Look at Bosa.
Yeah. Look at Chris Jones.
Yep. Bro, the market is what the market is.
Bro, I'm sorry. When Bitcoin was $100,000 of a coin, it's $100,000 of coins.
It hasn't come down, but this market ain't coming down. You may not like it, but who are you going to play out there if you don't got him? So at what point do we think teams start calling about Shadour, like an opportunity to move up out of the second round? Pittsburgh.
That's good. Do you think? I always, look, we've really felt, you started hearing the rumblings that Giants weren't going to be in play.
Cleveland weren't going to be in play. You got Russ, you got Jameis.
Are you really taking a quarterback at third? I don't think so. Now, you got New Orleans, especially with Derek Carr's shoulder.
How healthy is he going to be? Once you got past nine, you looked at everybody else,

they got quarterbacks that they've paid or they've drafted in the last year.

So you know he wasn't going there.

So now Pittsburgh seems like the nigga.

My question to you is, in Pittsburgh, it gets a little cold.

Played there a few times.

A little wet.

Shadour, not a big arm.

Doesn't throw a real tight spiral.

Do you think that's a good bit for him? It gets cold.

It gets cold. Cleveland, it gets cold.

That'd be a tough division to have. Hold on.

He just played in Colorado. It gets cold.

I think he's going to be alright

because despite what he doesn't have as far

as arm strength, he's very accurate and precise

with his throwing. Yep, you gotta be.

That too. He got some

good receivers.

You got a Steelers fan here in the front row, I think.

Seahawks, what do you like

to see up?

Seahawks.

Seahawks. Trackhawks.

Lakers at five.

Georgia Tech.

Who?

Oh, linemen.

Okay, okay.

Gray Vabel.

Guard.

North Dakota State.

Offensive lineman.

Always a good decision.

A lot of guards have been going here already in the draft.

That's like usually one of those positions you don't really value a whole lot

to pick in the top 20, but yeah.

Well, they want to run the ball with Carbinoe and K-9.

Yeah.

I like this big.

For the most part.

I'm surprised, though, considering, okay, you bring in the third pick, Sam Darnold. You got JSN.
Yeah. But you cut Lockett and you trade DK.
I'm confused with that. Yeah, right.
We're sending mixed messages here. We really are.
Tell me. You have, think about it.
You have, I think for me, I think Geno's better than Sam Darnold. And plus you got him in the system.
Now, granted, you brought the offensive coordinator who called plays last year in Minnesota. I get it.
Same guy's going to be in his ear. But he ain't got the same talent pool over there.
A little different ballgame out there. They got to get somebody else out there.
Boom. I feel like I'm watching running back highlights, and they drafted a guard.

They got to get somebody out there at the receiver position on the perimeter.

They got to.

You think day two they go?

Yeah, probably day two.

You got some good dudes out there that have been coming in.

It won't be no DK Metcalfs.

Right.

It won't be that.

But you'll have some quality guys that can go out there and play some balls.

What you thinking about Tampa? Tampa

got a nice defense. They got receivers.

They got Chris Godwin. They got

Chris Godwin coming off an injury.

Mike Evans, Mr. Consistent.

Cade Arden, the tight end. I love those

two running backs. Love those

running backs. Tristan Worth, out

of this world offensive line.

You're going defense, you're going offensive linemen.

You know, they're in a good position because

they don't have any real super obvious needs

where we got to get something here.

Anything they get is the cherry.

I think a pass catcher, honestly, because

some of those guys they got are great,

but they're getting a little older.

At the end of the first round, you got to start thinking about that.

Injuries starting to come with a little bit more regular than Chris Godwin. Yep.
Like, what, three or four of the last four years, he's missed a significant amount of time. Yeah.
So, yeah. So Joe's thinking, okay, we'll get a pass catcher.

I think they can go either offense or defense.

Whatever they do pick for them because they really have no necessary needs.

Yeah.

I think it's a cherry on top.

It's a cherry on top to add to what you already got.

They take a defense.

Johnson, corner.

Four-three top bowls like to play conservative. Yeah, maybe corner.
This is a great spot. I like that hat.
You don't really need anything to put you over the top. I don't think anything coming right here at 18 is going to put you over the top, but I can add some quality depth.
Yeah. Yeah.
You might start thinking about taking some calls to trade back a little bit, possibly. Right.
Okay. We'll see.
Usually that happens quicker, though. But here's the thing.
Is there anybody that you feel won't be there when you're picking right now? Right. That.
Normally you're trading. You want to slide back but still get the guy that you want.
Right. Yeah, if I can slide back to say maybe I don't think Pittsburgh, the question is, will Denver my move? I don't think Pittsburgh moving.
I don't think so. Yeah.
They get a lot of heat if they passed up on Shadour, I think. And I think that the noise is getting louder because they've had success, but they're just not breaking through in the playoffs because they don't have that guy at quarterback right now.
And in that division, the only way to compete, the only way to win, especially the AFC North, is with quarterback. Yeah.
Because you got Joe Burr and Lamar.

Yeah.

You got this.

You can't go into the game and say, oh, yeah, guys,

we're going to hold these guys to 17.

No.

You're not.

That ain't happening. You're going to say, hey, guys, we got to score 35 today.

That's right.

The pick is in.

Here we go.

Huh?

No, no, no, no.

We think of something they might trade back.

What did the Bucs take?

Bucca.

That's a good one.

America Obuka from Ohio State.

It took who?

America Obuka.

Okay, okay.

Ohio State.

Been reported they're taking a receiver from.

You got to eat more McDonald's.

That's it.

Joe, you still in Cleveland?

Wisconsin. I'm in Madison.

Came back home.

The whole family's here.

You get to many games in Cleveland?

Yeah, I still work for the team, so I get

out to a few games.

Still got a place out there? Oh, okay.

Makes sense.

Not high dollar

real estate, so I can afford a house.

But you're not from Madison, are you?

Are you from Madison? I'm from Milwaukee.

Okay, Okay. All your family's from Wisconsin.
Oh. Are we foreshadowing here, maybe? Well, we know he's not going to Denver.
No, not going to Denver but Denver's probably

fielding calls right now, right?

Because everybody's thinking Pittsburgh

is where he's going to go. Boom.

Got to jump Pittsburgh if you want him.

Well, the thing

is, is that if somebody already

got a first round pick,

traded back, traded my second pick, and I

traded you my first next pick.

So let's see what

Denver does.

That's what the Browns did my year. They took Thank you.
traded back, traded my second pick, and I traded you my first next. Yep.

So let's see what Denver does.

That's what the Browns did my year.

They took me three, then traded.

Yeah, Ohio State receiver.

I told you.

I told you that.

A young Mel Kuyper right here.

That's a good one. But I think, look.

That's a good one.

My canvas is getting a little older. Chris Godwin, injury prone.
Mecca, Mecca, that's a good pick. And you know, hey, Ohio State, the receivers, they.
Every time. Every year, they don't miss.
It's receiver U. Oh, here we go.
He's fired up. Where is he right now?

That looks like one hell of a place.

Washington.

Woo.

Looks like he's in a Ruth's Chris Steakhouse.

I mean, think about it.

You got Tampa weather.

Indoors in New Orleans.

Indoors in Atlanta.

You get Carolina.

If I go to Carolina early, I ain't got nothing.

I got seven games.

Seven games.

Beautiful.

Yeah, he's pretty happy right now.

He's nice.

Good route. Got the dagger.
Here we go. Hands.
Good move, boy. Bigger.
I don't know what they do out in Columbus, but they got some receivers coming out every year. They got a whole lot.
And they got Jeremiah Smith. They got Smith coming out.
Oh, man, it's not fair, right, what they're doing. You know, they got their five deep at receivers.
Yeah. And all of them are first-round picks.
And Jamison Williams was there. He couldn't get on the field, so he goes down to Alabama.
He's the top 10 pick.

That's amazing.

He's nice.

He's nice.

So Dan Wilson, Chris Olave.

If I'm the Broncos, I trade.

I try to trade back.

But you trade back?

Nobody want to trade.

Yeah.

I trade out of the first round and pick up the extra pick.

You think so?

Huh?

Uh-oh, let's see.

Ash, what are the Broncos looking like?

Broncos on the clock.

We got four minutes.

What?

Todd? Todd, I'm picking up a few LBSs, man. On a stress, getting ready for the draft.
A lot of late-night hamburger runs. That's a good.
I like it. I like it.
I mean, Joe, you called this one Joe You said hey You gotta start thinking about that next generation of pass catchers You do You do You do That's dope They If I'm the Broncos What do I need Hell I might take I might take a receiver. Yeah, I like gold.
I like a receiver here. I like a receiver.
Hold on. What about Hampton, running back? Well, you got two running backs already.
What you call them? Javante Williams in Dallas now. That's right, Deerle.
Boy, that boy be toting that ball, boy. He run hard.
I like this. I like a receiver.
I wouldn't be surprised if they go running back. Sean Payton thinks back to his Saints days, Goose McAllister.
I mean, be able to come and to be able to pair. Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush.
That's right. He likes a two-back system.
You've got to have that running back in that system.

And when you've got a young quarterback that you want to help to that next level,

you get that running game going, then you start opening up stuff down the field. Yeah, I would not be surprised if Omar Hampton isn't the pick here.

But a receiver to go opposite of a Cortland Sutton?

Okay.

I like that, too.

I think Hampton's the pick right here if I had to guess. I think running back.
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I don't know why, but I think Hampton. Yeah, I'm in complete agreeance.
Hampton. Absolutely not.
Are you serious? Eagles, Bengals, Steelers, Dolphins, Vikings.

Would I be?

I mean, the list goes on.

I fucking love you, sir.

We haven't had a big play receiver in a very long time.

But I think it's Hampton.

I think Hampton's going to be the pick.

Remember what we talked about today?

Yeah, yeah.

We could definitely.

We could definitely use it. Is it it?

Hampton or Golden?

Hey, Denver's a beautiful city.

Who are they taking right now?

Running back?

I bet Hampton.

Who do you want them to take? Hampton?

Yeah.

I think everybody up here wants Hampton.

Pick is in. All right.
Should do it. We know they're not taking should do it.
No. Any of those other guys are in play, though.
Yep. Yeah, I still think Hampton's the pick right here.

I agree.

You got to boost that run game.

You got to have that workhorse back.

Do you think they pick another DB to go on the other side of Pat?

They like him.

He kept getting beat all year.

I know.

But they say he came back off an injury.

So they're like, okay, he was playing really well before he got nicked.

Who? Who? Oh. Who did it take? Simmons? Shot eight, Baron.
Huh? shot a baron the corner from texas oh wow you can't you can't hear ash no no he said no oh yeah you know you unplugged it. She said to come over there.
There would be a little bit of cheering in here if that happened. And there's going to be a lot of booing if they don't do that.
Yeah, I'm good. Yep, I got you.
Yeah. It's going to be...
No, we good.

We're good, yeah.

I got you, Ash.

I got you.

I was unplugged.

All right.

Cornerback?

Cornerback.

We've been wrong before.

I'm a little surprised by it, but you can never have enough good corners.

We're dealing with Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert. Yeah, he got some problems in that division for all the football.
Jaday Barron. Jaday Barron.
Texas. Well, Golden was right there.
Yeah. They took a Texas player, but it just wasn't the player that we thought they were going to take.
Yeah, yeah. Uh-oh this is the pick I'm really intrigued by I can't wait to see what Pittsburgh's gonna do here if that don't take should do it he's not going to the first no I know he's gonna slide out I totally agree he's taking a quarterback Kansas City ain't taking a quarterback wait boy I don't Buffalo ain't taking no quarterback.
Buffalo ain't taking no quarterback.

Baltimore ain't taking no quarterback.

Yeah, and the other thing is there's nobody that's going to jump into the first round and give something to take him.

There's nobody that's obviously going to take him that's already right there.

Right.

Stay home, stay home, stay home.

Pull up.

Give me some. He's not afraid to come up and hit, either.
Oh. Good play, boy.
Uh-uh. I like it.
I like that pick. I like that pick a lot.
Yeah. I love it.
I like that pick.

I like that pick a lot.

Yeah.

I like him opposite PS2.

I like him opposite Ocho.

That's going to be nice.

That's going to be nice.

I like that.

So, I mean.

If you do it, man, Ocho.

What?

If you don't go here.

I mean, he's going here. mean he's going here it makes sense

it only makes sense

you heard that right

what are the people in Pittsburgh thinking right now

do Steelers fans want Shadr Sanders

they got a DT

oh man

Thank you. What are the people in Pittsburgh thinking right now? Do Steelers fans want Shadrard Sanders? I feel like he's the answer.

They got a DT.

Oh, man.

Who would the pick?

If we're at 20, if we're at...

He was a lineman. So Cam Hayward? He's still there.
But you know they play a 3-4. So he's an in opposite of Cam.
Okay. Wow.
So if you look at it now. They're rumbling that he might slide.
It's happening. It was interesting because just a couple weeks ago, all the talk in Cleveland was about, do you take Shadour? And I think more than 50% thought that Shadour was going to go to Cleveland at number two.
Now he might fall out of the first round. He's not going to Houston.
He's not going to the Rams. He's not going to the Ravens.
He's not going to the Bills. He's not going to the Eagles.
He's not going to Kansas City. That's the problem when you're a quarterback.
He's not going to Detroit. And you don't get

picked in the top half. Those teams pick it in the

second half of the first round. They don't need quarterbacks.

That's why they went to the playoffs. Let's talk about

if you do sleep out the first round.

When it comes to the second round, what team

still need a quarterback at that point?

Cleveland.

The Giants.

So there's still the possibility he can still go to the Giants or Cleveland.

Yes.

That's not a bad thing.

No.

That's not a bad thing.

We don't see the glass as half full when it's half full.

Right, right.

We see it as half full.

What?

You heard the boom?

It took a deep tackle.

Oh, wow.

Oregon.

I'm trying to figure out who you have.

We got a few Steelers fans are feeling a little upset right now. I wish he had the mic.
Here, give him the mic. Wow.
Oh, wow. Whee! The man's never had a losing season, and we're calling for him to get fired up here.
Wow. Get out of here.
well there's at least a few Steelers fans

are excited up here. Wow.
Get out of here.

Well, there's at least a few Steelers fans are excited there.

The fans like him, not this one.

But we talk about Pittsburgh.

Well, hell, if he go to the Cleveland,

they play the same team that the Steelers play.

And everybody outside.

Oh, yeah.

He go to the Giants.

Yep.

They outside. Yeah.
And the Giants. Yep.
They outside.

Yeah.

And it's cold.

Yes.

No, he's not going to the Chargers, the Bills.

Oh, he ain't going to the Packers.

Oh, you talking about Gold.

I thought you talking about Shadour.

Yeah, that's possible.

That's a big boy, man.

They don't solve the big boy.

I don't know.

Thank you. I thought you were talking about Shadour.
Yeah, that's possible. That's a big boy, man.
They done saw him. I don't know.
They done saw him. Yeah.
They done said all those bad things, but, you know. They did enough on it.
They did enough on it. Yeah.
They did a good job on it. He can get his give back, though.
He can get his give back. Yeah.
Hell, that went in the fourth round and became the highest-paid quarterback in NFL history. Hey, and you get to the bag quicker, because, you know what I'm saying, you got to get your shoes.
That's your option if you're in the second round. Oh, man.
Steelers love the big old linemen like that. They can't help themselves.
They're not a fire tank. They can't help themselves.
They got to pick a D lineman. You got to pick D lineman, they just can't help themselves.
They love the fire tanks. I mean, he look just like he.
He buys your cab, ain't hey. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Man. That kind of, that obsessed me a little bit.
I think we all surprised other than the Steelers. Yeah, they don't look surprised at all.
I'm trying to figure out, what's your answer at the quarterback position to be able to compete in the AFC North. Mason Rudolph.
Is Mason Rudolph your answer? You've already – I'm smiling right now. That's all I can say.
You've already had Mason Rudolph out there every game. You had him.
You let him go to Tennessee. For a reason.
If he was that guy, you'd never allow him out of your building. Yep.
I don't know him leaving and coming back.

You think he's got some great coaches somewhere?

What changed?

Nope.

Nope. I'm confused.

Making moves like that means you don't know what to do at that position.

You don't.

You got no plan.

But you know what that tells me?

I got security at this job, though.

Exactly.

That's what that tells me? I got security at this job, though. Exactly.
That's what that tells me, Joe.

Check your phone.

Chargers.

What do we think?

Where are their positions of need?

What are they thinking?

I think this is a golden spot right here.

Oh, my.

I think golden goes right here.

I think Harbaugh wants somebody that.

Remember number five?

He ended up going to Buffalo.

Remember for the Chargers?

What was number five's name for the Chargers?

Palmer.

Palmer.

I think he's in Buffalo now. Okay.
So, makes sense. Makes sense.
I think Harbaugh wants a pass catcher for Herbert. That's an obvious position for me that they want to upgrade.
They want to give him somebody that they can grow together and have 10 years together. Right.
Joe, thanks for stopping by. Hey, give it up for Joe Thomas, guys.
Joe Thomas. From Football Hall of Fame.
Thanks, guys. See you, baby.
I got to say thank you. I got a little gift for you guys.
Come on. You're getting hungry up here.
My man over here said I'll be right back. All right.
Hey, guys, we got the number three overall draft pick joining us, Abdul Carter.

Just a second. Get him right up in the back.

The number three.

Hey. What? You're clamboot.
Man, you crazy, man you crazy man

Hey, you too fat to stop me great

Man, this is great. What we got Joe?

My family farm in Wisconsin. Okay.
Well, thank you, baby. Hey, after the show is on, me and you.
Yeah. Yeah.
And don't try to run. Don't try to run.
Wow. Don't run.
Yeah. I don't think anybody saw this, but we saw this over the last week.

People were talking about Shadour could possibly side out of the first round.

If he didn't go early, if he didn't go two, if he didn't go three,

if he didn't go 21, nobody after 21 needs a quarterback.

Kansas City has set.

Buffalo has set.

Baltimore has set.

The Chargers have set.

But I will say this. It's not how high you go.
It's where you go. He still has a chance to go to Cleveland in the second round, go to the Giants in the second round.
Yeah. Yeah.
Ah. Congratulations.
Congratulations. Run back.
Man, what was it like in the green room waiting back home? Did you have an idea that it could possibly be the Giants? Yeah, I definitely had a good feeling. I usually trust my gut.
My gut's here in New York. My parents wanted me to go to New York, so I'm a New York Giant.
This, you had a journey. You wanted to go play college football.
That was your dream. Probably Penn State was your dream college situation.
Now it's a different journey. Your journey to get here.

Now the journey starts all over again to be great here.

What has prepared you for this moment?

Yeah, I have to start with my dad, just him training me my whole life, teaching me everything I know.

All the work I put in, all the sacrifices they made for me.

And now it all starts again. I'm back to work, back grinding.
I'm ready to'm ready to get started i like that i got you i'm thinking about rookie year coming in setting short-term goals what would your short term your short-term goals be coming in to be a new york giant what do you what would you set so far i haven't read anything down yet but i'm definitely gonna get some goals i want to accomplish uh i'm usually like i'm big on that writing them my goals chasing goals, chasing them, but I'm nothing going to think about some things tonight. You go to the Giants.
Giants have always had really good defenses. Kayvon Thibodeau on one side, you got Big Lawrence in the middle, now you on the other side.
Have you thought about what it's going to be like, that front four, that front seven, trying to attack the quarterbacks in that division? You got the Washington Commanders, you got Jalen Hurst, the Super Bowl defending champ, Giants. With Saquon Barkley and those talented wide receivers out there, you got the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott, C.D.
Lamb. Jerry says he has some trades up his sleeve.
We haven't seen it yet. Have you thought about what your defense is going to look like when you go out there with your first OTAs coming up? First, I want to meet those guys, get to know them as men, develop a relationship as a teammate.
once I do that, we're going to hit the field. Let's create havoc.
You do realize now, you followed the guy, you wore that number 11, you got to be a hell raiser. You put that jersey on at Penn State for a reason.
Now, the last guy that came out of Penn State that wore that jersey, he was a defensive rookie of the year. Have you said, you know, I'm sure you guys have healthy competition.
Like, hey, you got it, I'm going to get it too. Yeah.
So what's your expectation? That award, would you like to? Obviously, you'd like to win it. But have you thought that far in advance what it would mean for you to go out there and have that type of season? If I do everything I'm supposed to do, pick the work in first, all that's going to come with it.
You're going to take care of yourself. Yeah, rookie of the year.
I want to be all proud. I want to do it all.
But at the end of the day, my man go. I want to win.
It's going to help my team win. Has it sunk in

yet? Has it sunk

in yet? Yeah, for sure not. Not yet?

It is crazy. It's going to hit you.

Yeah, for sure. It's going to hit you.

When you were a kid,

you say your dad has trained you your whole life

and you trained a lifetime.

You prepared a lifetime for this moment.

So you're sitting back there. You know

you're going early. You just don't know where you're

going. It could be Cleveland.
It could Thank you. and you train the lifetime.
You prepare the lifetime for this moment. So you're sitting back there.

You know you're going early.

You just don't know where you're going.

It could be Cleveland.

It could be the Giants.

You don't know, but you know I'm going early.

It's not going to be a long, hey, mom, hey, don't worry about it, guys.

We're going to be out here in 20 minutes.

I promise you.

30 tops.

We might not be 20, but 30 tops and we done.

They was more nervous than me, but I had a pretty good feeling

where I was going to go, so I'm happy to be a New York Giant.

Go Big Blue.

That's live.

That's dope.

Thank you. 30 times are we done? They was more nervous than me, but I had a pretty good feeling of where I was going to go.
Right. I'm happy to be a New York Giant.
Go Big Blue. That's live.
That's dope. That's dope.
So now, obviously, you're headed up there. As soon as you leave us, you're going to head up there, go around and meet the coaching staff, meet the ownership, meet general manager.
Probably, I don't know how long you're going to be up there. Are you going to look for a place while you're up there, or are you going to have that kind of time? Yeah, we're going to have to figure all that out, but I really just want to go back, celebrate with my parents, my mom, my dad, give them another hug, let's celebrate this moment.
When you get back home, where are you from? I'm from Philly. Right now.
I'm on New York, though. I'm on New York.
When you get back home in Philly, all your family, friends, and loved ones that have known Abdul Carter his entire life, what is that moment going to be like when you get with all your family, friends, and loved ones, and they get an opportunity to celebrate with you because it takes abilities to raise that Abdul Carter? I can't wait. I'm real thankful for them, everybody who helped me get to this moment And I can't wait to give back just knowing everybody that helped me get here all the sacrifices people made

But I mean you I I was talking to Ocho, I said Ocho even pops iced out He said I ain't gonna let you out do it. We all do it.
Give me some ice while you at it

Did the pops got a grill too? No, he don't got the grill, but

He got the Adidas chain on. He's a sharp.
Yeah, he's okay.

He's looking sharp.

I know your mom, I know your mom, your mom was like, she was really emotional back there

Now, let's sharp. Yeah, okay.
Looking sharp.

I know your mom was like, she was really emotional back there.

I saw her.

I think that was your sister also, right?

Yes, ma'am. And she was like, I'm looking at your mom, and she was like, whew, relieved.

Yeah.

I'm sure she did a lot of prayer for this moment.

Yeah, seeing her happy, seeing her proud of me, that's my heart. Nothing gives me more joy.
Nothing makes me more happy seeing her happy for me. I like this.
I just thought about all the obstacles, all the adversity, especially as your parents go through all the sacrifices they make to get to this point, to actually repay back and actually making it man i'm uh just congratulations to you congratulations to you and the family and man i wish you nothing but love and luck man i appreciate you you know you got to get a big big old check that first check will be big what's the first thing you gonna do i gotta take care of my people's first get my mom and dad something nice i'm definitely gonna give to treat myself. Yeah.
So when you get something nice, you're talking about a vehicle. You will get another piece of ice.
What you looking at? Probably a vehicle. What's your dream vehicle? Probably something more low-key.
I already had my dream. My first car was my dream car.
What was it? What was that? A Tesla Model X. The X-Plan or just regular? Man, stop playing me, man.

What you finna get, man?

Stop talking about the Tesla.

We'll see what happens.

I want some more low-key, stay out of the way.

Okay, okay.

Oh, so you're looking for a slider, huh?

Yeah.

So, but what, I mean, what do your mom and dad want?

Do they want a new crib?

Do they want vehicles?

What do they want?

Have you asked them? Have you thought about it? They're getting Do they want a new crib? Do they want vehicles? What do they want? Have you asked them?

Have you thought about it?

They're getting whatever they want.

It's on me.

Yeah, I like that.

What you going to get sis?

Whatever she want.

It's on you.

It's on me.

I want, you know what I want?

No, not you, not you, not you.

Wait, wait, wait, slide your uncle's jersey or something.

Send me something.

I can get y'all a jersey for sure.

I just want a coupon for McDonald's.

You want to get 11?

We'll see.

I don't think I want 11, but it is a number I got.

You got a number in mind.

Yeah, I got a number.

Does anybody have it?

Because you know you might have to get off some bread if somebody got it.

So who got 11?

No, he said you don't want 11.

No.

11 was a Penn State thing.

He said, I'm starting from scratch.

You got to keep that thing going, boy. I want something new.
Double zero. Double zero.
No, he said you don't want 11. No.
11 was a Penn State thing. He said, I'm starting from scratch.
You got to keep that thing going, boy. I want something new.
Double zero. Double zero.
No. He said plus Mike 11.
I ain't fair to do that. I did that at Penn State.
We kept that lineage going. Now it's time for Abdul.
You got to go single digit, though. No, it's a double digit.
It's a double digit? Yeah. It's retired, though, but we'll see.
I got to have some conversations. As long as it ain't 56, you might can get it.
But if it's 56, I don't know if you can get that one now. I love to hear that.
I love to hear you. You want to follow LT? But we'll see what happens.
And you do that as big shoes to feel. Oh, yeah.
I'll fill big shoes before I do it again. Okay, okay.
I like that. Because when they talk about the best defensive players ever, you never go past LT.
You hear a lot of people say, we talk about wide receivers, it might be Randy, it might be running backs. It might be Barry Emmett or Jim Brown or Walter Payton.
You go to a lot of different – when it comes to defensive players. One dude.
That's the goal. Yeah.
And he don't even go by real name. He go by initial LT.
Man, I'm doing, man. I'm so proud of you, man.
I've been watching your take. I was looking at you at the bowl game, and I was like, man, he just – I mean, he beating these guys with one move, and then it's like, well, nah, he had a shoulder.
His shoulder was messed up. Because I – man, you ripped.
I mean, you tremendous that first step. You could turn, translate speed to power.
You can bend the edges. You've got a great snatch, arm, rip, the ball.
How do you get better? What is Abdul Karmi to work on to get better? I think there's a lot of ways I can get better. It was my first year in a new position, so I'm just getting started.
The sky's the limit for me. I can just keep getting better.
I can play tight end, too. Oh, you trying to pull a tryout.
I'm just saying, he ain't the only one who can do it, but hey. So they put you on the goal line.
You're going to go catch it. Hell yeah.
Put it out there in the universe. Yes, sir.
The Giants. So obviously when you visited the Giants, you had a great conversation.
What made you so sure? What made you feel comfortable that the Giants was the place that you're probably going to end up? Yeah, I just trusted my gut. My gut told me the Giants.
My parents wanted me to go there. Because they close by.
They can drive up. They can catch the cellar.
Anytime they want, yeah. So, I just found a good connection with them.
They got to know me. I got to know them.
It was a perfect fit. I'm a New York Giant.
You getting season tickets? For who? Your mom. Mommy Day.
They're not going to miss a game for sure. I know them.
And plus, when you feel it, they're going to see, hey, and Washington is not that far away, so they're going to see you. Everything right there.
Ten times a year. Right there.
Close. That's unbelievable.
Yes, sir. When you was growing up, did you ever think you'd be a New York Giant? For a fact, when I was 12 or 13 years old, I had a dream I got drafted up by the Giants.
But it's hard to believe, but I actually had a dream I got drafted here. So you didn't want to be in front of Philly? Your dream wasn't to play for the Eagles? Yeah, but they had pick 32.
They would have to trade up. Hey, Abdul said, I ain't finna hold you on that one.

I went trying to be pick 32.

I went New York.

Come on, New York.

Hey.

That's it.

The third pick in the draft.

Hey, you got something on my.

He's like, hey, bro.

Hey.

Hey.

I ain't want to brag or the gloat or the both.

But you know your boy.

You're almost.

Because LeBar.

LeBar went two.

Yeah, he went two for sure.

He went three.

Yeah.

And, you know, his knees wore out on him. But LeBar, I was in the league.
I was kind of at the tail end of my career with LeBard. You were the age boy.
Yeah. The one thing, you wear that 11.
You can't put that 11 on if you ain't no hell raising. His son got it now, so we're going to see what he do.
But, yeah, all those guys that look out for me, they took me under their wing, and I'm real thankful for those guys. Yeah, yeah.
That's unbelievable. That's unbelievable.
And I'm so proud of you.

I know your family's proud of you. Abdul, man.

Thanks for coming, bro. We really appreciate it.

Because we know...

Tell me anything.

Abdul,

call the guys.

Abdul, here.

Don't forget, eat your McDonald's. Bro! Man, Abdul Carter, ladies and gentlemen, the third pick in the draft the new york football giants yeah what do you got yeah oh what y'all taking jihad campbell campbell campbell Y', Campbell.
He's saying Campbell. I like Warren better.
Campbell. I like Warren better.
Yeah, Sambo.

I like Warren better.

I'm not saying he's not good, but Warren.

I think Warren can be special.

They traded.

Never mind.

Golden.

Matthew Golden to the Packers.

They traded back. Golden.
Matthew Golden to the Packers. They traded back.

Golden.

They traded.

Matthew Golden to the Packers.

No, they traded it.

No?

Packers.

Golden. Oh.

All right.

Okay.

We can't tell you what they're going to do, but you're going to be surprised.

You're going to be surprised.

No, you'll be happy with the pick. Jay.
Yeah. They're doing something with a division rival.
Nah, no, for real. No, no, no no no no I'm saying you're gonna be surprised you could be happy with the pig, but you will be surprised how they got to pick Look at what they did.
Look at what they did Look at what they did What we got What we got What we got Selection is in It's

You're going to be

You're going to be happy

But it's surprising how they got there

Yeah

Thank you. That's a good one.
That's a good pick.

That's a good pick.

That's a great pick.

I like it.

Thank you. That's a good pick I like it I like it But that means somebody's gone Who? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah Ham.
Speed is too cold out here.

Man, when you a fast guy, you don't like cold weather.

He can run too, Doc.

Yeah.

I like this pick.

Yeah.

You like this pick?

You like Golden?

So you good now, huh?

They trading with Green Bay.

He nice.

I mean, with Minnesota.

He's nice

They're gonna ask who the minnesota take

They took jihad campbell What? You two. Jahad Tambor.
Jahad Tammer to the Vikings.

Wow.

Ain't nothing better than you better receiving going to a team that has a quarterback.

And that throws the ball.

He's going to let it rip.

Huh? I love the pick for Green Bay. I love to pick.
Huh?

He a farm.

His family got a farm.

Yeah, I guess his family does sausage.

I'm gonna make you walk home.

Make you walk home. Ash, I thought they was taking whatchacallum.

Uh oh. Ash, I thought they was taking what you call them.
Uh-oh.

They taking Donovan Jackson, O-line, Ohio State.

Where?

Where'd he go?

Huh?

Ohio State.

I know, but what team?

Vikes.

Vikes?

Okay.

Wow. Not even 100.
Oh, me? Not even 10. Where you from? You from St.
Louis? What you doing with a... Nah.
You said we? You said you're from St. Louis.
You should have on Rams gear. Wow.
That's your team.

Wow.

So you're bandwagon.

You're bandwagoner.

Whoa.

Pause.

Oh, let's go, boy.

Give me that.

Nice. That was nice.
Nice. What is hard is to play that speed out that close to the goal line if that guy collides you.
Because he can knock you off balance. Every time.
And of the time, what you do, what's going to happen is you get a DV in the NFL.

They go hold it.

Right on you.

Go to it.

You don't know where to tuck you.

You don't know where to tuck you.

Mm-hmm.

I don't know.

We will see.

Wow.

They're trading back?

Into the first round.

Why would they trade back?

Quarterback.

You mean trading up?

Traded back into the first, yes.

Oh, okay, okay, okay.

That's what rumored.

So now they go get your boy?

Yep.

And that's a good market, too.

Big market.

Donovan Jackson, guard, Ohio State.

Vikings. Hey, you want to make another bet? Yeah, he ran, what he ran?

4-3? You want to make another

bet?

Shadour to the Giants. Giants just traded back.
Ah! Giants traded back to Houston. Can you imagine? That'll be dope.
Abdul Carter and you go back and you get Shadour. Yeah, you get everything you wanted.
You get the defensive player you wanted and the quarterback that you like at the spot that you wanted it. On one-year deals.
Shadour gets to sit back for a year, watch Russ, watch Janus, take everything in.

I like it.

I like the pick.

If this is the move, I like this move.

Right.

Because I get what I wanted.

Right.

I address what I need first.

I address my need.

I like that.

Look.

Big Gilly. Jackson Dart.
somebody else might move up and get him, though.

Or are they taking Jackson Dart?

They're taking a quarterback.

There's no way you don't trade.

You trade back into the first round if you're not taking a quarterback.

Don't wait.

Jackson Dart.

They took Dart.

The Volume.