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Speaker 2 You know, the guy the Kaleos came back.

Speaker 2 Walter, Walter Nolan.

Speaker 2 What do we think about this guy? Good pick.

Speaker 2 He tackle. Like you said, though,

Speaker 2 once you get past

Speaker 2 those first seven, eight picks. Now,

Speaker 2 is anybody there that you wasn't expecting to be there? Yeah, right. That's what makes it hard.

Speaker 2 I mean, this is not, well, I'll take the best available player, but all of a sudden you're expecting somebody to go seven or you expect somebody to go 10, and here they are sitting there 13, 14.

Speaker 2 Even though I might not need that. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 2 The best team, the best team in the draft is on the clock.

Speaker 2 You look at Philly. Philly had Fletcher Cox.
They had Brandon Graham, but they still selected D. Lyman.
They get Jalen Carter. They get Jordan Davis.
They get this with it.

Speaker 2 They get an edge rusher.

Speaker 2 It's like,

Speaker 2 what are you doing? And look what won them in the Super Bowl. It was the defensive line, getting that Patrick Mahomes.

Speaker 2 Because you've got no answer for it when you got five, six guys that you can go DFI. The funny thing about about that game is the Eagles front four.

Speaker 2 We have to get to Patrick Mahomes at will. They didn't blitz the whole damn game.
Yeah. Not once.

Speaker 2 Not once. But yo, you know this.
To get a team out of cover two, you got to run them out of it. You can't throw a team out of cover two.
No. You got to run them out of it.
And so what happened is,

Speaker 2 and Philly played the long game, they're going to get impatient. They ain't going to stick with the run.
I know they ran it the first three plays. They got a first down.

Speaker 2 But they're not going to stick with it.

Speaker 2 Now, once you fall behind and you don't want to stick with the run, you you play it to the home yeah big fan just say just go hunt don't even worry about the run well he knew their defensive line was such a bad matchup for the chiefs o-line that even if they tried to stick with the run they wouldn't be consistent enough to move it down the field right

Speaker 2 you got to be in a situation when you play the eagles you need to be second you need to be third and short

Speaker 2 you know you need to get five yards i don't want to see third and long as a tackle no

Speaker 2 not pass

Speaker 2 you you need you know you got it you get you got it you got to stay positive that's right you can't have a fall star appearance. You can't play behind the sticks when you play against the Eagles.

Speaker 2 Hold on.

Speaker 2 They just got the defensive in from the Eagles. Number 94,

Speaker 2 he should have been the MVP. He's not there at the Eagles.
Because remember, he went with

Speaker 2 Shane Steichen. Uh-huh.
Uh-huh. So, okay.
They're stacking Allen on the D-line. Looks like Walter may need a bigger hat, though.
I don't think he was

Speaker 2 going to be an Arizona Cardinal.

Speaker 2 He might need an eight. I think that's a seven and a quarter, Ocho.
That might be a six and a quarter. I got a look.

Speaker 2 Dread.

Speaker 2 Hey, we'll just go ahead and unlock it. Oh, I think the Bengals are taking Sanders.

Speaker 2 James Pierce?

Speaker 2 Where is he from?

Speaker 2 Edge Rusher, from who? Where?

Speaker 2 Tennessee. Okay.

Speaker 2 They definitely need defense. They definitely need defense.

Speaker 2 But the question is, Ocho.

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 2 I didn't know that one.

Speaker 2 Oh, here we go.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 What is he?

Speaker 2 Edge.

Speaker 2 Edge.

Speaker 2 We're going defense. It doesn't matter.

Speaker 2 Huh?

Speaker 2 They have a move with Trey Hendrickson.

Speaker 2 Yes. Remay? Because they're not going to sign him him to the contract that he deserves.

Speaker 2 So why are you holding him hostage? Bitch, they want a first-round pick. Nobody's giving you a first-round pick for a 31-year-old guy.
Yeah, and a guy that they're going to have to pay, right?

Speaker 2 They got to pay him, and they got to give him a first-round pick. And he's probably not going to last that long.

Speaker 2 Watson. Yeah, but I mean, that's the Bengals, though.
They're just stubborn.

Speaker 2 That's this guy. Well, the thing is, they wait till the

Speaker 2 umpteenthower. That's right.
Just think about it. If you give Jamar Chase,

Speaker 2 you had to end up paying $30 more million dollars. Right, you got to pay him more if you wait.
And if you already know he's he's the guy, why not pay him? And he won the triple crown.

Speaker 2 So how much do you think he was going to pay?

Speaker 2 Chase. Oh, yeah, yeah.
Same thing with T. Yep.
Yep.

Speaker 2 And now you got T, you got Hendrickson. Hendrickson's like, bro, the market is 30 plus middle 30s.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. 17 to half sack, back-to-back years.
First team all-pro. I was in Dent.
He's got nobody around him either.

Speaker 2 Imagine if he was on a defensive line like the Eagles or like pair him with Miles Garrett, like yeah other guys that are gonna pull some blocks if i'm washington now you hear you hear that uh uh washington might be in play with tj watt but if i can't get tj watt i'll i'll give up i'll give up a third or fourth round pick for entrances yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 2 you need to go ahead and load up before jaden daniels comes up that's right

Speaker 2 that's right

Speaker 2 you see where the contracts are now 60 million yep jaden daniels gonna be at 65 70. oh yeah yep for sure the way the salary cap's rising easily yeah Yes.
So you got to win.

Speaker 2 You got to win and stack your team right now before you have to pay him. Or do like Philly.
You see what Philly do? Philly signed their guys at the top of the market.

Speaker 2 And then in two years, they look at that contract like, wow, he really underpaid. Hey, they catching him early.
They catching him early. It's all right time.
Look, they got Lane Johnson tied up.

Speaker 2 They got Jergenson tied up. They got Dickinson tied up.
They got My Lada tied up. They got Jalen Hurts tied up.
They got Devontae and A.J. Brown tied up.

Speaker 2 Because you know that big guy coming. Jalen Carter.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 2 He dropped that brinkstruck. Yeah.
Because

Speaker 2 he finna go past

Speaker 2 the D-lineman from Kansas City, Chris Jones. Chris Jones is about 31 and a half.
He's about to go 33.

Speaker 2 He's 33. Absolutely.
Yeah. Well, Eagles have been smart about signing guys early.
You know, I think it's really important. You got them in the building.

Speaker 2 If you know what they're going to be, lock them up. before everybody else finds out.

Speaker 2 Their timing and ability to do that has been impeccable. Yeah.
And it's paid off for

Speaker 2 what helped them is Jalen Carter didn't come back his last year in shape and he didn't play like he played the year before.

Speaker 2 Had he come back in shape, he's the first pick in the draft, not the 10th pick in the draft.

Speaker 2 And so Philly got a steal. They got a guy that had first pick talent

Speaker 2 at the 10th pick. You pick is in.

Speaker 2 What do we think? I think they're going edge.

Speaker 2 They're going defense. Listen, we're going defense no matter what.

Speaker 2 Stewart.

Speaker 2 It took Stewart, AM.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I like it. I like it.

Speaker 2 And the linebackers upset he want more money. Hey, OJ, what's 57 days? Jermaine Pratt? Yeah, Pratt.
Pratt wants more money.

Speaker 2 You picked the wrong year.

Speaker 2 I want more money. You picked the wrong year to want more money because you had a down year.
I was just going to say tomorrow she wanted to get a lot of money. But he ain't going to get it.

Speaker 2 you know the bingos like they love making an example out of people

Speaker 2 oh man

Speaker 2 i like i like this i like y'all didn't have no choice but to go defense we we don't we don't because the problem with us is is we can't beat nobody because if we score 60 points the other team scores 65.

Speaker 2 yes we got we ain't got no choice guess what you should go defense in second two second round too matter of fact the whole our whole every pick we got whole draft the whole draft got to be defense five 267 don't you

Speaker 2 oh they got to show the highlight over the left tackle didn't they oh boy nice arm over

Speaker 2 let's see what he got

Speaker 2 quick first step

Speaker 2 nice hey did you pinch him

Speaker 2 ouch

Speaker 2 here we go Versatility playing on the other side.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 2 Let's see what he got. Okay, here he had a head up.

Speaker 2 Come on, baby. Y'all ain't letting the bad split you.
Oh, you go.

Speaker 2 Here we go. Oh, you got to fetch you? Come on, guard.
Since you're going to play in the tackle, but that's the guard. That's right.

Speaker 2 You get that on college football where they line up in those fronts and they don't know who they got.

Speaker 2 Oh, here we go. Putting the hat on.

Speaker 2 The Steelers.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow. That was

Speaker 2 watch out. Roger's getting old now.
You got to be careful.

Speaker 2 They're not taking Roger up, but Roger says not OP no more.

Speaker 2 Come on, Lips.

Speaker 2 Look at it. He's messed up his hair.

Speaker 2 But he shook Roger so hard, he's messed up his hair.

Speaker 2 I like,

Speaker 2 oh, y'all, I really like this pick for y'all. Y'all need an edge.
I know. Because Harper's gone, too.
Harper's retired.

Speaker 2 They're not letting letting Trey go down.

Speaker 2 I mean...

Speaker 2 Do you think they work something out? With Trey? Yeah. Work a trade out.
That's what he should have done.

Speaker 2 It's getting a little late. They want those trades to happen before the draft.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 that's why I think he might not be going anywhere. I'm not sure what they're going to do.

Speaker 2 But if Hubbard's gone,

Speaker 2 this is your answer to replace Hubbard. Yeah, you got him to replace Hubbard, but you need what's going on on the other side.
He's going to be there.

Speaker 2 And I mean, we ain't got no choice. We don't have no choice.
That's going to be, but the thing is, he ain't going to want to play on that. What do you make it? 12 and a half, 13 mil.
That's it.

Speaker 2 And he see

Speaker 2 the draft,

Speaker 2 the going rate for a live edge rusher,

Speaker 2 30 mil, 35. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 That's where it's like. Yes.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Because you're in Michael. Michael said today, hey, the market is 35.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 The market's 35.

Speaker 2 That's what it is.

Speaker 2 Can't go into McDonald's and say, I'll give you $2 for that big man. $6 now, I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 Look at

Speaker 2 Miles Garrett.

Speaker 2 Look at Bosla. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Look at Chris Jones. Yep.
Bro, the market is what the market is, bro. I'm sorry.

Speaker 2 When Bitcoin was 100,000 of plus coins, it's 100,000 of coins. It has come down, but this market ain't coming down.
You may not like it, but who are you going to play out there if you don't got him?

Speaker 2 So at what point do we think teams start calling about Shadur like an opportunity to move up out of the second round? Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh, do you think? I always look,

Speaker 2 we've really felt, you started hearing the rumblers that Giants weren't going to be in play. Cleveland weren't going to be in play.

Speaker 2 You got Russ, you got Jameis. Are you really taking a quarterback in third? I don't think so.

Speaker 2 Now, you got New Orleans, especially with Derrick Carr's shoulder. How healthy is he going to be?

Speaker 2 Once you got past nine, you looked at everybody else, they got quarterbacks that they've paid or they've they've drafted in the last year so you know he wasn't going there so now

Speaker 2 hittsburgh seems like the yeah

Speaker 2 my question to you is in pittsburgh it gets a little cold played there a few times a little wet shadour not a big arm doesn't throw a real tight spiral do you think that's a good ball for him gets cold cincinnati it gets cold yeah cleveland it gets cold that'd be a tough division to have a crazy hold on back just played he just played in colorado it gets cold i think he's i think he's gonna be all right because despite what he doesn't have as far as arm strength he's very accurate and precise with his throwing.

Speaker 2 Yep, you got to be

Speaker 2 that too. He got some good receivers.

Speaker 2 You got a Steelers fan here in the front row, I think.

Speaker 2 Seahawks, what do you like,

Speaker 2 Seahawks, Track Hawk,

Speaker 2 Lakers at five?

Speaker 2 Georgia Tech

Speaker 2 Oh, lineman. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 Gray Zabel. Grace.
Guard, North Dakota State.

Speaker 2 Offensive lineman, always a good decision. A lot of cards have been going here already in the draft.

Speaker 2 That's like usually one of those positions you don't really value a whole lot to pick in the top 20.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Well, they look.

Speaker 2 They want to run the ball with Carbono and K-9. Yeah.

Speaker 2 it i like this big

Speaker 2 for the most part i'm surprised though considering okay you bring in uh the third pick sam darno

Speaker 2 you got jsc in yeah but you cut lock it and you trade detail okay so i would i'm confused with that yeah right we're sending mixed messages here yeah we really are tell me you have

Speaker 2 think about it you have i think for me i think gino is better than sam darno because and plus you got him in the system now i granted you brought the offensive coordinator who called plays last year in Minnesota.

Speaker 2 I get it. Same guy's going to be in his ear, but he ain't got the same talent pool over there.

Speaker 2 Different ballgame out there.

Speaker 2 They got to get somebody else out there.

Speaker 2 I feel like I'm watching running back highlights, and they drafted a guard.

Speaker 2 They got to get somebody out there at the receiver position on the perimeter. They got to.
You think day two, day two, they go? Yeah, probably day two.

Speaker 2 You got some good dudes out there that have been coming there.

Speaker 2 It won't be no DK make halves. Right.
It won't be that.

Speaker 2 But you'll have some quality guys that can go out there and play some balls.

Speaker 2 What are you thinking about Tampa? Tampa got a nice defense. They got a receiver.
They got Chris Godwin. They got Chris Godwin coming off the injury.
Mike Evans, Mr. Consistent, K Dotten at tight end.

Speaker 2 I love those two running backs. They got

Speaker 2 those running backs. Tristan Worth, out of this world offensive line.
Yep. Yep.
You're going defense, you go offensive lineman.

Speaker 2 You know, they're in a good position because they don't have any real super obvious needs. We're right.
And we got to get something here. But anything they get is the cherry.
I take Will Johnson.

Speaker 2 I think a pass catcher, honestly, because some of those guys they got are great, but they're getting a little older. And

Speaker 2 at the end of the first round, you got to start thinking about that. Injury's starting to come with a

Speaker 2 little bit more regularity. Chris Godwin.
Yep.

Speaker 2 Like what, three out of four of the last four years, he's missed a significant amount of time.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, yeah.

Speaker 2 So, Joe's thinking, okay, we'll get a pass catcher.

Speaker 2 I think they can go either offense or defense, whatever they do pick for them because they really have no necessary needs. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think it's a cherry on top. It's a cherry on top.
They add to what you already got. They take a defense.

Speaker 2 Johnson, corner.

Speaker 2 4-3, Todd Bowles, like to play in conservative.

Speaker 2 Yeah, maybe corner.

Speaker 2 This is a great spot. I like that hat.
Yeah, where you don't really need, you don't really need anything to put you over the top.

Speaker 2 I don't think anything coming right here at 18 is going to put you over the top, but I can add some quality depth. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You might start thinking about taking some calls to trade back a little bit. Yeah.
Possibly. Right.
Okay.

Speaker 2 We'll see. Usually that happens quicker, though.
But here's the thing.

Speaker 2 Is there anybody

Speaker 2 that you feel won't be there when you pick it right now

Speaker 2 normally you train

Speaker 2 you want to slide back but still get the guy that you want right

Speaker 2 yeah if i could slide back to say maybe

Speaker 2 i don't think pittsburgh the question is would denver might move i don't think pittsburgh moving

Speaker 2 they get a lot of heat if they passed up on chadur i think and i think that the noise is getting louder because they've had success, but they're just not breaking through in the playoffs because they don't have that guy at quarterback right now.

Speaker 2 And in that division, the only way to compete, the only way to win, especially the AFC North, is with quarterback. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Because you got Joe Burr and

Speaker 2 Lamar. Lamar, yeah.
You got.

Speaker 2 And so

Speaker 2 you can't go into the game and say, oh, yeah, guys, we're going to hold these guys to 17. Nah, you're not.
That ain't happening.

Speaker 2 Hey, guys, we got to score 35 today.

Speaker 2 The pick is in.

Speaker 2 Here we go.

Speaker 2 Huh?

Speaker 2 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 We're thinking something they might trade back.

Speaker 2 What the Bucks take? Buka. Ash.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. Ameka or Buka.

Speaker 2 From Ohio State. It took who?

Speaker 2 Amekah Obuka. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 Been reported they're taking a receiver from.

Speaker 2 You got to eat more McDonald's.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 2 Joe,

Speaker 2 you still live in Cleveland?

Speaker 2 Wisconsin. I'm in Madison.
Came back home. Came back home.
Yeah, yeah. The whole family's here.

Speaker 2 You get to many games in Cleveland? Yeah, I still work for the team.

Speaker 2 I get out to a few games.

Speaker 2 Still got a place out there? Okay.

Speaker 2 Make fits. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Not high-dollar real estate, so I can afford a housing.

Speaker 2 But you're not from Madison, are you?

Speaker 2 I'm from Milwaukee. Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 All your families from Skaskaska.

Speaker 2 Oh?

Speaker 2 Are we foreshadowing here, maybe? Well, we know he's not going to Denver. No, not going to Denver, but

Speaker 2 Denver's probably fielding calls right now, right? Because everybody's thinking Pittsburgh is where he's going to go.

Speaker 2 Boom. Got to jump Pittsburgh if you want him.

Speaker 2 Well, the thing is, is that if somebody already

Speaker 2 got a first-round pick, traded back, traded my second pick, and I trade you my first net. Yep.

Speaker 2 So let's see what Different does.

Speaker 2 That's what the Browns did my year. They took me three, then traded back.
Now, how is that receiver?

Speaker 2 I told you. I told you that.

Speaker 2 A young Mel Kuiper right here.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. I think it's look.
That's a good movie. Mike Evans is getting a little older.
Chris Godwin, injury-prone.

Speaker 2 Mecca.

Speaker 2 That's a big thing.

Speaker 2 Ohio State, the receivers.

Speaker 2 Every time. Every year, they don't miss.
It's received for you.

Speaker 2 Oh, here we go. He's fired up.
Where is he right now? That looks like one hell of a place. Washington.

Speaker 2 Looks like he's in a Ruth Chris state cap. I mean, think about it.

Speaker 2 You got Tampa weather. You're indoors in New Orleans.
You're indoors in Atlanta. You get Carolina.
If I go to Carolina early, I ain't got nothing bad.

Speaker 2 I got seven games. Seven games.
Beautiful. Yeah, he's pretty happy right now.

Speaker 2 He's nice.

Speaker 2 Good route.

Speaker 2 He got the dagger. There we go.
Hands. Ooh, good move, boy.

Speaker 2 I don't know what they do out Columbus, but they got some receivers coming out every year.

Speaker 2 And they got Jeremiah Smith. They got Smith coming out.
Oh, man. It's not fair, right? What they're doing.

Speaker 2 They're five-deep at receivers. Yeah.
And all of them are first-round picks. Well, you think about it.
And Jameson Williams was there. He couldn't get on the field, so he goes to Alabama.

Speaker 2 He's the top 10 pick. That's amazing.

Speaker 2 He's nice.

Speaker 2 He's nice. So, Dave Wilson, Chris Olave.

Speaker 2 If I'm the Broncos, I trade. I try to trade back.

Speaker 2 But you trade back? Nobody wants to trade. Yeah.
I trade out of the first round and pick up me on an extra pick.

Speaker 2 You think so?

Speaker 2 Uh-oh, let's see.

Speaker 2 Ash, what are the Broncos looking like? Broncos on the clock. We got four minutes.

Speaker 2 What

Speaker 2 Todd? Todd picked up a few LBSs.

Speaker 2 Out of stress, getting ready for the draft.

Speaker 2 A lot of late-night hamburger runs.

Speaker 2 That's a good one. I like it.
I like it. I mean, Joe, you called this one, Joe.
You said that. You got to start thinking about that next generation of pass catchers.
You do? Yeah. You do.
You do.

Speaker 2 That's dope.

Speaker 2 If I'm the Broncos, what do I need?

Speaker 2 Hell, I might take a receiver. Yeah, I like gold.
I like a receiver here. I like a receiver.

Speaker 2 Hold on. What about Hampton, running back?

Speaker 2 Well, you got two running backs already.

Speaker 2 What you call Javante? Javante Williams in Dallas now.

Speaker 2 He did leave. Boy, that boy be toting that ball, boy.
He runs hard.

Speaker 2 I I like this.

Speaker 2 I like a receiver. I wouldn't be surprised if they go running back.
Sean Payton thinks back to his Saints days, Deuce McAllister. I mean, be able to pull

Speaker 2 and to be able to pick. Mark Ingram, Reggie Bush.
That's right. He likes a two-back system.
You've got to have that running back in that system.

Speaker 2 And when you got a young quarterback that you want to help to that next level, you get that running game going, then you start opening up stuff down the field.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would not be surprised if Bamar Hampton isn't the pick here.

Speaker 2 But a receiver to go opposite of a Cortland Sutton? Okay.

Speaker 2 I like that too.

Speaker 2 I think Hampton's the pick right here if I had to guess.

Speaker 2 I think running back.

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Speaker 2 I can't hear you. I don't know what happened.
I think Hampton. Yeah,

Speaker 2 I'm in complete agreeance.

Speaker 2 hampton

Speaker 2 absolutely not

Speaker 2 are you serious eagles bengals steelers uh dolphins

Speaker 2 vikings would i be

Speaker 2 i mean the list goes on

Speaker 2 but gold is i love you soul

Speaker 2 we haven't had a big play receiver in a very long time. But I think it's Hampton.
I think Hampton's going to be the kick. Remember, we talked about it.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 We could definitely.

Speaker 2 We could definitely use it.

Speaker 2 Is it a Hampton or Golden?

Speaker 2 Hey, Denver's a beautiful city.

Speaker 2 Who were they taking right now?

Speaker 2 Running back?

Speaker 2 I think Hampton. Who do you want him to take? Hampton?

Speaker 2 Johnson. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I think everybody up here wants Hampton.

Speaker 2 Pick is in.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 Shadua.

Speaker 2 We know they're not taking Shadua. Nope.

Speaker 2 Any of those other guys are in play, though. Yep.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I still think Hampton's the pick right here. I agree.
You got to boost that run game. You got to have that workhorse back.
Do you think they pick another DB to to go on the other side of Pat?

Speaker 2 Being that.

Speaker 2 They like

Speaker 2 he kept getting beat all year. I know, but they say he came back off an injury.
So they like, okay, he was playing really well before he got nicked.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 Who did take Simmons?

Speaker 2 Shade Baron.

Speaker 2 Shade Baron, the corner from Texas. Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 You can't hear Ash?

Speaker 2 No. No.
What's your name?

Speaker 2 Oh. Yeah, you know.
You unplugged it?

Speaker 2 She said to come over there.

Speaker 2 There would be a little bit of cheering in here if that happened.

Speaker 2 And there's going to be a lot of booing if they don't do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got I'm good

Speaker 2 Yep, I got you

Speaker 2 It's gonna be

Speaker 2 No, we good

Speaker 2 We're good, yeah

Speaker 2 I got you, Ash. I got you.
I was unplugged.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 Cornerback.

Speaker 2 Corner.

Speaker 2 Texas. We've been wrong before.

Speaker 2 I'm a little surprised by it, but you can never have enough good corners.

Speaker 2 What, dealing with Patrick Mahomes, Justin Herbert? Yeah, you got some problems in that division for all the football.

Speaker 2 Jod A. Baron.
John A. Barron.

Speaker 2 Texas.

Speaker 2 Well, Golden was right there. Yeah.

Speaker 2 They took a Texas player, but it just wasn't the player that we thought it was. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 And this is the pick I'm really intrigued by. I can't wait to see what Pittsburgh's going to do here.
If they don't take Shadua, he's not going to the first. No, I know.
He's going to slide out.

Speaker 2 I totally agree.

Speaker 2 They ain't taking no quarterback. Kent City ain't taking a quarterback.

Speaker 2 Buffalo ain't taking no quarterback. Alderboy taking a quarterback.
Yeah, and the other thing is, there's nobody that's going to jump into the first round and give something up to take him.

Speaker 2 There's nobody that's obviously gonna take him right that's already right there, right?

Speaker 2 Stay home, stay home, stay home. Pull up,

Speaker 2 he's not afraid to come up and hit either. Oh,

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 2 I like it. I like that pick.

Speaker 2 I like that pick a knot. Yeah.

Speaker 2 I like him opposite PS2.

Speaker 2 I like him opposite OJO. That's going to be nice.
That's going to be nice.

Speaker 2 I like that. So, I mean,

Speaker 2 man, love OJO. What? If you don't go here.
I mean, he's going here.

Speaker 2 It makes sense.

Speaker 2 It only makes sense.

Speaker 2 You heard that, right?

Speaker 2 What are the people in Pittsburgh thinking right now? Do Steelers fans want Shadura Sanders? Shadura?

Speaker 2 Take it a DT. Oh, man.

Speaker 2 So wait, wait, wait,

Speaker 2 if we're if we're at 20 if we're at

Speaker 2 He was a lineman, so Cam Hayward. He's still there.

Speaker 2 But you know, they play a 3-4.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 he's an in opposite of Cam. Okay.

Speaker 2 Wow. So if you look at it now, there's rumbling that he might slide.

Speaker 2 It's happening. It was interesting because just a couple weeks ago, all the talk in Cleveland was about, do you take Shadur?

Speaker 2 And I think more than 50% thought that Shadur was going to go to Cleveland at number two. Now he might fall out of the first round.

Speaker 2 He's not going to Houston. He's not going to the Rams.
He's not going to the Ravens. He's not going to the Bills.
He's not going to the Eagles. He's not going to Kansas City.

Speaker 2 That's the problem when you're a quarterback.

Speaker 2 And you don't get picked in the top half. Those teams picking in the second half of the first round, they don't need quarterbacks.
Hold on. That's why they went to the playoffs.

Speaker 2 Let's talk about if you do something about the first round. Yeah.
When it comes to the second round, what teams still need a quarterback at that point? Cleveland.

Speaker 2 The Giants.

Speaker 2 So, there's still the possibility he can still go to the Giants or Cleveland. Yes, that's not a bad thing.
No, that's not a bad thing.

Speaker 2 We don't see the glasses half full when it's half full.

Speaker 2 What you're in the boot? It took a D-tackle. Oh, wow.
Oregon. I'm trying to feel

Speaker 2 apple board. We got a few Steelers fans are feeling a little upset right now.

Speaker 2 I wish he had the mic. Here, give him the mic.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 The man's never had a losing season, and we're calling for him to get fired up here.

Speaker 2 Wow. And get out of here.

Speaker 2 Well, there's at least a few Steelers fans who are excited.

Speaker 2 The fans like him, not this one.

Speaker 2 But...

Speaker 2 We talk about Pittsburgh. Well, hell, if he goes to the Cleveland, they play the same teams that the Steelers play.

Speaker 2 And everybody outside. Oh, yeah.
He go to the the Giants. Yep.
They outside. Yeah.
And it's cold. Yes.

Speaker 2 No, you're not going to the Chargers, the Bills.

Speaker 2 Oh, he ain't going to the Packers.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're talking about gold. I thought you were talking about Shadora.
Yeah, that's responsibility.

Speaker 2 That's a big boy, man. They don't salted him up,

Speaker 2 they don't salty Shadora.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 They done said all those bad things, but you know.

Speaker 2 It did enough purpose. They did enough on it.
Yeah,

Speaker 2 they did the job on it.

Speaker 2 He can get his get back, though.

Speaker 2 He can get his get back. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Hell, Dak went in the fourth round and became the highest-paying quarterback in NFL history.

Speaker 2 Hey, and you get to that, you get to the bag quicker because, you know what I'm saying? You got giant cheers.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That's your option if you're in the second round.

Speaker 2 oh man, Steelers love the big old lineman like that. They can't help themselves.

Speaker 2 They can't help themselves. They got to pick a D-lineman.
They got a big D-lineman, they just can't help themselves.

Speaker 2 They love the five-tenths.

Speaker 2 I mean, he looked just like he

Speaker 2 reminds you of Cab anyone. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 Man,

Speaker 2 that kind of that

Speaker 2 upsets me a a little bit.

Speaker 2 I think we all surprised other than the Steelers. Yeah, they don't look surprised at all.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to figure out what's your answer at the quarterback position to be able to compete in the AFC North.

Speaker 2 Is Mason Rudolph your answer?

Speaker 2 You've already smoked.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's all I can say. You've already put Mason Rudolph out there every game.
You haven't. You had him.
You let him go to Tennessee for a reason.

Speaker 2 If he was that guy, you never allow him out of your building. Yep.

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know

Speaker 2 him leaving and coming back.

Speaker 2 You think he got some great coaches somewhere? What change? Nope. Nope.
I'm confused.

Speaker 2 Making moves like that means you don't know what to do at that position. You don't.
You got no plan. But you know what that tells me? I got security at this job, though.

Speaker 2 Exactly. That's what that tells me, Joe.

Speaker 2 Check your phone.

Speaker 2 Chargers, what do we think? Where are their positions of need? What are they thinking?

Speaker 2 I think this is a golden spot right here.

Speaker 2 Oh, my.

Speaker 2 I think Golden goes right here. I think

Speaker 2 Carbaugh wants somebody that... Remember the number five? He ended up going to Buffalo.
Remember for the Chargers?

Speaker 2 What was the number five's name for for the charges palmer palmer i think he's i think he's in buffalo now okay so makes sense yeah makes sense

Speaker 2 i i think our ball wants a pass catcher for herbert like that that's an obvious position for me that they want to upgrade they want to give him somebody that they can grow together and have 10 years together right

Speaker 2 Joe, thanks for stopping by. Hey, give it up for Joe Thomas, guys.
Joe Tommy.

Speaker 2 Thanks, guys.

Speaker 2 Let me see, baby.

Speaker 2 I got to say thank you. I got a little gift for you guys.
Come on. You're getting hungry up here.
My man over here said I'll be right back. All right.

Speaker 2 Hey, guys, we got the number three overall draft pick joining us, Abdul Carter.

Speaker 2 Just a second

Speaker 2 in the back.

Speaker 2 The number three. Hey.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 You're playing boot.

Speaker 2 Man, you crazy, man.

Speaker 2 Hey, you're too fat to stop me. Great.

Speaker 2 Man, this is great. What we got, Joe?

Speaker 2 Appreciate that. My family farm in Wisconsin.
I'm eating beef.

Speaker 2 Bro, thank you, baby.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 after the show, it's on, me and you.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And don't try to run. Don't try to run.
Wow. Don't run.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't think anybody saw this, but we saw this over the last week. People was talking about Shadur could possibly slide out of the first round.

Speaker 2 If he didn't go early, if he didn't go two, if he didn't go three, if he didn't go 21, nobody after 21 needs a quarterback. Kansas City is set.
Buffalo is set. Baltimore is set.
The Chargers are set.

Speaker 2 But I will say this. It's not how high you go.
It's where you go.

Speaker 2 He still has a chance to go to Cleveland in the second round, go to the Giants in the second round.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Congratulations. Congratulations.
Where I'm at.

Speaker 2 Hey, man.

Speaker 2 What was it like in the green room waiting that call? Did you have an idea that it could possibly be the Giants? Yeah, I definitely had a good feeling.

Speaker 2 I usually trust my gut. My gut said in New York, my parents wanted me to go to go to New York, so I'm a New York giant.

Speaker 2 This, you had a journey. You wanted to go play college football.
That was your dream. Probably Penn State was your dream, your dream college situation.
Now it's a different journey.

Speaker 2 Your journey to get here, now the journey starts all over again to be great here.

Speaker 2 What has prepared you for this moment?

Speaker 2 Yeah, I would have to start with my dad, just him training me my whole life, teaching me everything I know, all the work I put in, all the sacrifices they made for me, and now it all starts again.

Speaker 2 I'm back to work, back grinding, I'm ready to get started.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 I got you. I'm thinking about rookie year coming in, setting short-term goals.
What would

Speaker 2 your short-term goals be, coming in to be a New York giant?

Speaker 2 What would you set so far? I haven't written anything down yet, but I'm definitely going to get some goals I want to accomplish.

Speaker 2 I'm usually like, I'm big on that, writing down my goals, chasing them, but I'm definitely going to think about some things tonight. You go to the Giants.
Giants have always had really good defenses.

Speaker 2 Kayvon Thibodeau on one side. You got Big Lawrence in the middle.
Now you on the other side.

Speaker 2 Have you thought about what it's going to be like, that front four, that front seven, trying to attack the quarterbacks in that division? You got the Washington commanders.

Speaker 2 You got Jalen Hurst, the Super Bowl defending champ Giants. With Saquor and Barkley and those talented wide receivers out there, and you got the Dallas Cowboys, Dak Prescott, CeeDee Lamb.

Speaker 2 Jerry says he has some trades up his sleeve we haven't seen it yet what have you thought about what your defense is going to look like when you go out there your first otas coming up yeah for sure but first i just want to i want to meet those guys get to know them as men uh develop a relationship as a teammate and once i do that we're going to hit the field let's create havoc you do realize now you follow the guy that you wore that number 11 you got to be a hair raiser you put that jersey on in penn state for a reason now the last guy that came out of penn state that won that that wore that jersey he was a defensive rookie of the year have you settled you know i'm sure you guys have a healthy competition like, hey, you got it, I'm going to get it too.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, so, what's your expectation? That award is, would you like to?

Speaker 2 Obviously, you'd like to win it, but have you thought that far in advance what it would mean for you to go out there and have that type of season?

Speaker 2 If I do everything I'm supposed to do, pick the work in first, all that's going to come with it. It's going to take care of itself.
Yeah, rookie of the year, I want to be all proud.

Speaker 2 I want to do it all, but at the end of the day, my man goes, I want to win. It's going to help my team win.
Has it sunk in yet?

Speaker 2 Hasn't it sunken yet? Yeah, for sure not. Not yet.
It is

Speaker 2 It's going to hit you.

Speaker 2 It's going to hit you.

Speaker 2 When you were a kid, you say your dad has trained you your whole life and you trained a lifetime. You prepare the lifetime for this moment.
So you're sitting back there. You know, you're going early.

Speaker 2 You just don't know where you're going. It could be Cleveland.
It could be the Giants. You don't know, but you know, I'm going early.
It's not going to be a long.

Speaker 2 Hey, Mom, hey, don't worry about it, guys. We're going to be out here in 20 minutes.
I promise you.

Speaker 2 30 tops.

Speaker 2 We might not be 20, but 30 times are we done.

Speaker 2 Yeah, they was more nervous than than me, but I had a pretty good feeling of where I was going to go. So I'm happy to be a New York giant.
Go big blue. That's live.
That's dope. That's dope.

Speaker 2 So now you get,

Speaker 2 obviously, you're headed up there as soon as you leave us. You're going to head up there, go around and meet the coaching staff, meet the ownership, meet general manager.

Speaker 2 Probably, I don't know how long you're going to be up there. You're going to look for a place while you're up there or are you going to have that kind of time?

Speaker 2 Yeah, we're going to have to figure all that out, but I really just want to go back, celebrate with my parents, my mom, my dad, get them another hug. Let's celebrate this moment.

Speaker 2 When you get back home, where are you from? I'm from Philly. Oh, you're all

Speaker 2 right now. But I'm all in New York, though.
I'm all in New York.

Speaker 2 When you get back home in Philly, all your family, friends, and loved ones that have known Abdul Carter his entire life, what is that moment going to be like when you get with all your family, friends, and loved ones, and they get an opportunity to celebrate with you?

Speaker 2 Because it takes abilities to raise Abdul Carter.

Speaker 2 I can't wait. I'm real thankful for them.
Everybody who helped me get to this moment and i can't wait to give back just knowing everybody that helped me get here all the sacrifices people made

Speaker 2 but i mean you i man i was talking to ochro i said ocho even pops i stopped he said i ain't gonna let you out do we all do hey give me some ice while you at it sir did the pops got a grill too no he don't got

Speaker 2 he got the diddy chain on yeah he got okay

Speaker 2 I know you mom, I know your mom. Your mom was like, she was really emotional back there.
I saw, I think that was your sister with her, also, right? That's me.

Speaker 2 and uh uh and she was like okay i'm looking looking at your mom and she was like

Speaker 2 relieved yeah i'm sure she did a lot of prayer for this moment yeah seeing her happy seeing her proud of me that's that's my heart nothing give me more joy nothing none make me more happy seeing her happy for me

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Speaker 2 Just thought about all the obstacles, all the adversity, especially that your parents go through, all the sacrifices they make to get to this point, to actually repay them back and actually making it, man.

Speaker 2 I'm just congratulating to you, congratulations to you and the family. And, man, I wish you nothing but love and luck, man.

Speaker 2 I appreciate your show. You know you're going to have to get a big, big old check.
That first check will be big.

Speaker 2 What's the first thing you're going to do? I got to take care of my people first, give my mom and dad something nice. I'm definitely going to give me something nice, treat myself.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, so when you get something nice, you talk about a vehicle. You will get another piece of ice.

Speaker 2 What you looking at? Probably a vehicle.

Speaker 2 What's your dream vehicle? Probably something more low-key. I already have my dream.
My first car was my dream car. What was it? What was that? A Tesla Model X?

Speaker 2 The X-Flat or just reggae?

Speaker 2 Man, stop trying to see me, man. What you finna get, man? Stop talking about the Tesla.
We'll see what happens. I want some more low-key.
Stay out of the way. Okay, man.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Oh, so you try to look, you look for a slider, huh? Yeah.

Speaker 2 So, but, but what, I mean,

Speaker 2 what do your mom and dad want? Do they want a new crib? Do they want vehicles? What do they want?

Speaker 2 Have you asked them, have you thought about it? They're getting whatever they want. It's on me.
Yeah, I like that. I like that.
But you can get sis.

Speaker 2 Whatever she wants. It's on you.
It's on me. Well, wait, I want, you know what I want?

Speaker 2 Nah, not you, not you, not you.

Speaker 2 Wait, wait, wait, wait, find your uncle Jersey or something. Send me something.

Speaker 2 I can get y'all jersey for you.

Speaker 2 I just want a coupon for the countless.

Speaker 2 We'll see.

Speaker 2 I don't think I want 11, but it is a number

Speaker 2 in mind. Yeah, I got a number.
If anybody have it, because you know you might have to get up some bread if somebody got it.

Speaker 2 So who got 11?

Speaker 2 No, he said you don't want 11. No.
11 was a PSA thing.

Speaker 2 I'm starting from scratch. You got to keep that thing going, boy.
I want something new. Double zero.
Double zero.

Speaker 2 It's a plus mic 11. I ain't finna do that.
I did that at PN State. We kept that lineage going.
Now it's time for Abdul. You got to go single-digit, though.
No, it's a double-digit.

Speaker 2 It's a double-digit? Yeah.

Speaker 2 It's It's retired, though, but we'll see. I got to have some conversation.

Speaker 2 As long as it ain't 56, you might can get it. But if it's 56, I don't know if you can get that one now.
I love to hear that. I love to hear it.

Speaker 2 You want to follow LT?

Speaker 2 But we'll see what happens.

Speaker 2 You do nothing big shoes. Hell yeah.
I feel big shoes before. I'll do it again.
Okay, okay. I like that.
Because when they talk about the best defensive players ever, you never go past LT.

Speaker 2 You hear a lot of people say, well, we talk about wide receivers. It might be Randy.

Speaker 2 It it might be you talk about uh running backs it might be barry emmett or or jim brown or walter payton you go to a lot of different

Speaker 2 when it come to defensive players one dude that's the go yeah and he goes by he don't even go by a real name he go by initials lt

Speaker 2 bad up dude man i'm so proud of you man i've been watching your tape uh i i was looking at you in the bowl game And I was like, man, he just, I mean, he beating these guys with one move.

Speaker 2 And then it's like, well, nah, he had a shoulder. His shoulder was messed up.
Because,

Speaker 2 man, you rip. I mean, you tremendous that first step.
You can turn, translate, speed to power.

Speaker 2 You could bend the edges. You got a great snatch, arm, rip,

Speaker 2 the bull.

Speaker 2 How do you get better? What does Abdul Carnegie need to work on to get better? I think there's a lot of ways I can get better.

Speaker 2 It was my first year in a new position, so I'm just getting started. The sky's the limit for me.
I can just keep getting better. I can play tight end, too.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 he's trying to put a tryout no no i'm just saying he ain't the only one who could do it but hey so they'll put you on the goal line you're gonna go catch it hell yeah

Speaker 2 put it at put it at the end of universe

Speaker 2 the giants so obviously when you visited the giants you had a great conversation what made you so sure what made you feel comfortable that the giants was the place that you're probably going to end up yeah i just trusted my gut uh my gut told me the giants my parents wanted me to go there Because they're close by.

Speaker 2 They can drive up. They catch that fella.
Anytime they want, yeah. So I just found a good connection with them.
They got to know me. I got to know them.
It was a perfect fit. I'm a New York Giant.

Speaker 2 You getting season tickets? For who? Your mom, mom, and dad.

Speaker 2 They're not going to miss a game for sure. I know them.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 plus, when you, Philly, they're going to see A. And Washington is not that far away.
So they're going to see you

Speaker 2 10 times a year. Right there.
Close. That's unbelievable.
That's sir. When you was growing up, did you ever think you'd be a New York giant?

Speaker 2 Fun fact, when I was 12 or 13 years old, I had a dream I got drafted up by the Giants, but it's hard to believe But I actually had a dream I got drafted here.

Speaker 2 So you didn't want to being from Philly your dream wasn't to play for the Eagles? Yeah, but they had pick 32. They would have to trade up

Speaker 2 Hey, hey, I'm doing so I ain't finished holding on that one but I would try to be pick 32 I'm with New York

Speaker 2 The third pick in the draft. Hey, you got something on Michael like hey bro

Speaker 2 I ain't want to brag or the gload of the both, but you know your boy. You're almost because Labar.
Labar went too, yeah, he went too, for sure.

Speaker 2 He went three, yeah, and uh, you know, his knees wore out on it, but Lamar was, I was in the league with, I was kind of at the tail end of my career with Lamar, you were

Speaker 2 ace, boy. Yeah, the one thing, yo, the one thing you wear that level because you can't put that level on if you ain't no hair raising out dude.

Speaker 2 His son got it now, so we got we're gonna see what he do, but yeah, all those guys that look out for me, they took me under their wing, and I'm real thankful for those guys.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, that's unbelievable, that's unbelievable, man. I'm so proud of you.
I know your family's proud of you. Abdul, man, thanks for coming, bro.
We really appreciate it. Because we know,

Speaker 2 tell Benny Fay.

Speaker 2 Abdul Carter, guys.

Speaker 2 Don't forget to eat your McDonald's.

Speaker 2 Man, Abdul Carter, ladies and gentlemen, the third pick in the draft, the New York Football Giants.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what do you got? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh.

Speaker 2 What y'all taking?

Speaker 2 Jahi Campbell.

Speaker 2 Campbell, Campbell.

Speaker 2 Jahi Campbell.

Speaker 2 You see him, Campbell.

Speaker 2 I like Warren better.

Speaker 2 Campbell.

Speaker 2 I like Warren better.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying he's not good, but Warren.

Speaker 2 I think Warren can be special.

Speaker 2 They trade it. Never mind.

Speaker 2 Golden. Matthews golden to the Packers.

Speaker 2 They traded back.

Speaker 2 Golden. They traded.

Speaker 2 Matthews golden to the to the Packers. No, they traded it.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 Packers, Golden.

Speaker 2 Okay,

Speaker 2 we can't tell you what they're gonna do, but you're gonna be surprised.

Speaker 2 You're gonna be surprised.

Speaker 2 No, you you'll be happy with the pick.

Speaker 2 Jay,

Speaker 2 yeah,

Speaker 2 they're doing something with a division rival.

Speaker 2 No, no, for real,

Speaker 2 I'm seeing

Speaker 2 you're gonna be surprised. You're gonna be happy with the pick, but you're gonna be surprised how they got the pick.

Speaker 2 Look at what they did.

Speaker 2 Look at what they did.

Speaker 2 What we got, what we got, what we got, what we got.

Speaker 2 Selection is in.

Speaker 2 You're going to be happy,

Speaker 2 but it's surprising how they got there.

Speaker 2 That's a good one.

Speaker 2 That's a good pick.

Speaker 2 That's a good pick.

Speaker 2 That's a rich pick.

Speaker 2 I like it. But that means somebody's gone.

Speaker 2 Who?

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Hamstrings.

Speaker 2 Speed is too cold out here.

Speaker 2 Man, did you look? When you're a fast guy, you don't like cold weather. Oh, man, he needs to run too, man.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I like this pig. Yeah.
You like this pick? You like golden?

Speaker 2 So you good now, huh?

Speaker 2 They trading with Green Bay. He's nice.
I mean, uh, with Minnesota.

Speaker 2 He's nice.

Speaker 2 They're gonna ask who did Minnesota take?

Speaker 2 They took Jihad Campbell.

Speaker 2 YouTube

Speaker 2 Jihad Temple

Speaker 2 Jihad Temple to the Vikings

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Ain't nothing better. You better receive it and go into a team that has a quarterback.

Speaker 2 And that throws the ball. He should have let it rip.

Speaker 2 I love the pick for Green Bay. I love the pick.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 huh?

Speaker 2 He a farm. He yeah, his family got a farm.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I guess it's I guess his family does sausage.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 everyone's like a class.

Speaker 2 Let me know.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna make you walk home.

Speaker 2 Make you walk home.

Speaker 2 Ash, I thought they was taking what you color.

Speaker 2 Uh-oh.

Speaker 2 They taking

Speaker 2 Donovan Jackson, O-line,

Speaker 2 Ohio State.

Speaker 2 Where'd he go? Uh-huh. Ohio State.
I know, but what team? Bikes. Bikes.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Wow.

Speaker 2 Not even a hundred.

Speaker 2 Not even ten.

Speaker 2 Where you from?

Speaker 2 You from St. Louis?

Speaker 2 What you doing with a...

Speaker 2 Nah.

Speaker 2 You said we?

Speaker 2 You said you're from St. Louis.

Speaker 2 You should have on Rams gear.

Speaker 2 Wow, that's your team.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you are bandwagon. You a bandwagoner.

Speaker 2 Whoa. Pause.

Speaker 2 Oh, that's no boy. Give me that.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 2 That was nice.

Speaker 2 Nice.

Speaker 2 But it's hard to play that speed out that close to the goal line if that guy collides you.

Speaker 2 Because he fucks your ballots. Every time.

Speaker 2 And most of the time, what you do, what's going to happen is you get a DV at the NFL, they'll hold it right on you. Go to it.
Nowhere, Chuck. You haven't seen it nowhere.

Speaker 2 I don't know. We will see.

Speaker 2 Wow. They're trading back

Speaker 2 into the first round. Why would they trade back? Quarterback.

Speaker 2 What do you mean trading up? Trading back into the first. Yes.
Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 So now they go

Speaker 2 get your boy.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 And that's a good market, too.

Speaker 2 Big market.

Speaker 2 Donovan Jackson guard Ohio State

Speaker 2 Vikings

Speaker 2 hey you want to make another bet yeah he read what he read four three

Speaker 2 you want to make another bet

Speaker 2 Shadur to the Giants

Speaker 2 Giants just traded back

Speaker 2 ah

Speaker 2 Giants traded back to Houston.

Speaker 2 Kenya Matt, that'd be dope. Abdul Carter, and you go back to Shadur.

Speaker 2 You get everything you wanted.

Speaker 2 You get the defensive player you wanted, and the quarterback that you like at the spot that you wanted it.

Speaker 2 On one-year deals.

Speaker 2 Shadur gets to sit back for a year, watch Russ, watch Jamis,

Speaker 2 take everything in.

Speaker 2 I like it. I like the pick.

Speaker 2 If this is the move, and I don't.

Speaker 2 I like this move. Right.
Because I get, guess what? I get what I wanted. Right.

Speaker 2 I address what I need first. I address my need.

Speaker 2 I like that.

Speaker 2 Look.

Speaker 2 Big deal.

Speaker 2 Jackson Dart.

Speaker 2 Somebody else might move up and get him, though.

Speaker 2 Or are they taking Jackson Dart?

Speaker 2 They taking a quarterback.

Speaker 2 There's no way you don't trade. You trade back into the first round if you're not taking a quarterback.

Speaker 2 No way.

Speaker 2 Jackson Dart.

Speaker 2 They took Dart.

Speaker 2 The volume.

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