Nightcap - Hour 2: Suns fire last 2 coaches & Coach Prime wants a cap on NIL!

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Speaker 4 The Phoenix Sons fired their last two head coaches, Frank Vogel, Mike Boonhoser, after just one season, and they reportedly plan on taking a different approach heading into next season.

Speaker 4 NBA insiders Mark Stein and Jake Fisher reported Sunday that the Phoenix Sons are highly unlikely to pursue another veteran coach following the quick departure of Vogel and Boehnhoser.

Speaker 4 Both coaches had five-year deals, but didn't even make it to the second year of the deal. Phoenix also fired Monty Williams after 2022-2023 season.

Speaker 4 So it would snap a three-year firing streak if they keep a coach beyond 2025-2026 campaign.

Speaker 4 If you're Matt Ishpia,

Speaker 4 Where are you going and what are you looking for in the head coach, Joe?

Speaker 4 You're looking for somebody who the player is going to respect

Speaker 4 buy into the system. That's why I tell you, I don't know what they're looking to spend on a coach, but

Speaker 4 go young, give a coach some,

Speaker 4 give him some leniency as far as wins, because

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 it ain't worked out in the past three coaches, man. You know, you're going to have to probably go through a little heartbreak, you know,

Speaker 4 a little low

Speaker 4 as far as wins, but

Speaker 4 you might as well do it with some young guys.

Speaker 4 You got

Speaker 4 guys, you got four years. You playing $80 million to coaches that's not coaching over the next four years.

Speaker 4 Hey,

Speaker 4 where Phil Jackson at? He heard me.

Speaker 4 Phil ain't coming.

Speaker 4 Phil ain't want to coach.

Speaker 4 Phil was like, if I can't have Kobe and Shaq and Jordan and Pitt, but I ain't coaching. I'm done.

Speaker 4 I ain't finna mess up my playoff,

Speaker 4 my playoffs or record and my championship games or a record.

Speaker 4 That ain't fit to happen. No, but you got to,

Speaker 4 but you got to get somebody in there, man, who the players are going to respect and buy in, I'm telling you.

Speaker 4 You know, somebody who's going to really come in and lay down what's supposed to be done. Because if the players don't respect you,

Speaker 4 like y'all see, they ain't going to play hard for you. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 they'd be at that bullshit.

Speaker 4 What? I mean, Sam Cassell is a player.

Speaker 4 he's been an assistant coach for two decades

Speaker 4 you can get sam hey look sam sam probably be a good a good candidate for that job you look at because it kind of reminds me of the chauncey billu thing once he got there you know dame was still there but they built uh trading dame off and just kind of starting over and right ain't no pressure on chauncy you know right now he got some anthony simons they got scoot henderson they got shading sharp yeah uh klingen yeah they got some young guys who can go he got to develop them guys and hopefully they mature into some pretty good pros.

Speaker 4 Question is, what are they going to do with Jeremy Grant? I don't know if he's on the last year of his contract or if he has another year. They're going to move on from him.

Speaker 4 But like you said, they got some young talent. They just like, okay.
And they just extended. They just extended

Speaker 4 Chauncey. Who knows? Yeah.
Nash was a staple in Phoenix, but he

Speaker 4 marked. Man, I don't know why they just won't give Jack Jack an opportunity, but hey.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I don't understand that neither.

Speaker 4 Maybe he did something wrong and word got out and they won't give him another opportunity.

Speaker 4 I don't know. I had him on my pod.
He say he don't know what he did.

Speaker 4 Nobody seems to know, but all I know is that there have been a lot of coaches that had worse records than what he's had, that's been given opportunities to resurface.

Speaker 4 But for whatever reason, it hadn't happened for him. Coach Prime will NIL salary cap in college football.

Speaker 4 There should be some kind of cap. Our game should emulate an NFL game in every aspect, rules, regulations, whatever the rules,

Speaker 4 whatever the NFL rules, the college rules should be the same. There should be a cap and every team gets this and should be able to spend that.

Speaker 4 Ocho,

Speaker 4 Joe, should there be an NLN NIL salary cap in college football?

Speaker 4 I don't like it. I don't like it.
I want the players to get as much as they can off their likeness.

Speaker 4 Because is there a salary cap when it comes to coaches going from going from college to college or school to school?

Speaker 4 Do they put a salary cap on the coaches being able to get as much money as they want? Absolutely not. So don't do it to the players either.

Speaker 4 Don't do it to the players. They make these colleges, these universities, and these entities make billions and

Speaker 4 B-word, not millions, billions every year.

Speaker 4 collectively off players likeness. Allow them to get a piece of the pie for the change.
Allow them to get a piece of pie for the change. And it's going to be like this for a very long time.

Speaker 4 Obviously, we know the landscape of NCAA has changed. You got to pay to play, whether it be basketball or whether it be football.
You want to win? You got to pay to play.

Speaker 4 You want to get the best players? You got to pay to get them to come to your school. That's a part of the game.
That's what the game is right now. But don't put a salary cap on it.

Speaker 4 No, don't, because they don't do it for the coaches.

Speaker 4 And they pick up and go whenever they want to when there's a better opportunity. What you want, Joe? What you thinking, Joe?

Speaker 4 Uh, I wouldn't say salary cap, but I do want to see all the player athletes get compensated to some degree.

Speaker 4 Even, let's say, even if you ain't a guy who plays major minutes, like, I think it's enough to go around. I mean, these dudes, they are all professional athletes now.

Speaker 4 You know, we can't even, yes, it's not just a collegiate athlete, like you're a professional, so you got to carry yourself that way.

Speaker 4 And I just feel like if you got one dude making $7 million, another dude making two and a half, three million,

Speaker 4 now i think you can stretch it out to where everybody on the team is making a little song

Speaker 4 it's

Speaker 4 man i'm just i just saw in basketball i think 50 of the players in college basketball enter the portal yeah

Speaker 4 50 joe oh joe think about that 50 of the college basketball player are in the portal

Speaker 4 No loyalty, oh, they ain't studying that. Hey, them young boys get into that Mayan.

Speaker 4 They get into the May Yan.

Speaker 4 They ain't studying all that. What you trying to do? What kind of system you running? I'm not studying that.
Hey, what y'all paying me, man? What y'all paying me?

Speaker 4 And Joe, you can't coach kids like we used to get coached. You can't yell at a kid.
You got kids coming in now. How much money you got and how much time I'm going to play.

Speaker 4 You ain't talking right. I got to go.
Yeah. Think about it.

Speaker 4 That's where we are now, OJo.

Speaker 4 You know, and I get it to a certain extent. You know, that's all we knew.
So the yelling and screaming and the cussing and the grabbing the face mask or whatever the case may be. I love that.

Speaker 4 That's all we knew. I love it.
But in today's time, these kids, there's been a slow evolution where coaches have had to get away from that.

Speaker 4 Coach has gotten fired for cursing and saying things and doing things.

Speaker 4 I don't even know if they have Oklahoma anymore, Ocho. I don't know if they have Bull in the Ring no more.

Speaker 4 They have to. No, they don't.

Speaker 4 I mean, we go sometimes, we go home, we go practice it. We go damn down near the whole practice with no water, old choke.
Make a bad, make a mistake.

Speaker 4 Nah, you ain't getting no water. Pull that water out.

Speaker 4 Yeah, see, that's see, that's why sometimes the kids, sometimes kids of the day, they're getting a little soft now.

Speaker 4 We started Bull in the Ring. We started Oklahoma drilling.
I'm talking about, I was five years old. Yeah.
Oh, for sure. I was five years old.
I'll never forget 1988.

Speaker 4 I tell you, 1988, Miami Lakes Optimism. I can tell you my coach was.
Coach Budd, rest in peace. What we doing, I'm five years old.

Speaker 4 We doing Oklahoma drills and bull in the ring, five years old with pass on. Uncle that builds character.
Yes. It builds.

Speaker 4 Out of Florida. That's why that's, that's how we are.
That's why we are the way we are out of Florida. It builds character.
Hey, look, I played for the bow, aka Nolan Richardson.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 40 minutes ahead. Hey, hey, Uncle, Ojo, you calling the practice? It made you.
You not even touch up the basketball today.

Speaker 4 You just might put an hour up there on the clock and you just run around the whole court Indian run for 60 minutes straight.

Speaker 4 Hey, look, yeah, yeah. So, one thing about

Speaker 4 being in some shape, brother, you're going to be in some shape.

Speaker 4 60 minutes

Speaker 4 straight

Speaker 4 Indian run.

Speaker 4 Hey, look, you know, you know, if you're in the back, if you're in the back, uh, with the with the medicine ball, you got to run a whole circle and come back to the front of the line, did another, yeah, oh, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, hey, 60 straight minutes, non-stop until we get into them legs.

Speaker 4 Because his favorite quote was, the fatigue makes cowards of us all.

Speaker 4 That it does. And now,

Speaker 4 hey, look, look, once you get tired now we want to see if you can play basketball because they look wow hey hey you got guys gonna be looking like ochro out there in that celebrity game playing against t-mac

Speaker 4 hey hold on hold on you telling me how i look when my legs were already gone after i'd already dropped 22 in a celebrity game okay well i ain't see that i ain't see that i'm just telling you what i well watch the whole footage they just showed a part where we almost fought and i'm gonna beat his ass

Speaker 4 yeah you ain't see that that's what you almost saw i didn't see that. I ain't seen that part.
Yeah, I'm just telling you. I'm telling you to T-Mac, that's my dog.

Speaker 4 You know, I respect him as a player, but

Speaker 4 NBA players cannot deal with true athletes outside of a structured environment, five-on-five and running plays and setting picks.

Speaker 4 You can't play somebody like me and think you're going to succeed.

Speaker 4 That's what I try to keep telling you. And you don't seem to understand.
All right, all right. All right.
We're going to go back. We'll go back to, hey, but back

Speaker 4 hey, back to in college playing for Nolan Richards. Hey, listen, we probably would have had a few guys in the portal, too, if you can jump in the portal.
Hey, it was tough down there.

Speaker 4 You can't coach them guys like that no more.

Speaker 4 Hey, look, no, you can't. You can't.
You can't be tough. Guys are, you know, you can't yell.
You can't. And the thing is, because we stayed outside, when we were younger on choke, we stayed outside.

Speaker 4 So when it came to practice, I don't remember anybody. I don't remember really anybody fainting or dying or passing out or something like that.
Like you see these kids down here,

Speaker 4 they do these hard drills and they, you know, they

Speaker 4 fall out. Yeah.
Yeah. We didn't have that because we were outside.

Speaker 4 We were playing basketball, playing football. We was working outside.
It wasn't no, we have PlayStation, we have side of the inside.

Speaker 4 And then all of a sudden, you go out to 100 degrees and try to run and do all that other stuff. Yeah, something bad going to happen.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hey, listen, that's everybody wanted they want to do all this all this healthy eating and they pegatorian and and and and and vaginasaurus and all this other stuff that don't make no sense they they they listen to science they listen to analytics we ain't had none of that uh no when we were when it was summertime you hear me uh when it was summertime joe we wanted to come in the house no if you're thirsty drink for the water holes on the side of the house yeah you had to turn it on you had to turn it on and wait for the water to get cold because it came out hot as hell yeah

Speaker 4 that's why we that's why we ain't get hurt that's why we ain't get sick today

Speaker 4 oh, I got a paper cut. I got to go to the doctor.
What? Hey, listen. Yeah.
They don't.

Speaker 4 See, we didn't have the distraction that they have in today's world. They don't.
We didn't have no social media, Ocho. We really didn't have no video games.

Speaker 4 You had to go to the arcade. You know, back then, Ocho, you had to go to the arcade.
Yeah, we had an arcade. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah. You didn't have no.

Speaker 4 There was a very select. I mean, we used to have like Game Boy.
We had

Speaker 4 a couple of handheld games. But it was nothing like what these kids got now.
These kids now, that's why I say when you find a a kid now that's focused, boy, you got something. Yeah.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Because it's hard because there's so many distractions.

Speaker 4 You got Madden and you got NBA 2K and you got Call of Duty and Fortnite and this and that and Minecraft and you got so social media, you got TikTok and

Speaker 4 whatever the case may be,

Speaker 4 Snapchat, or what all that stuff.

Speaker 4 Whatever you got going on on your

Speaker 4 and it seems like as each generation the attention span and the focus get less and less less and less very small less and less it's hard you got to get kids 10 minutes kids can't listen longer than 10 minutes that's right okay go take a break

Speaker 4 what

Speaker 4 it's it's different though so i i tip my hat to kids that that come up in this environment now and they focus and they know what they want well i want to be this i want to be and i'm not just talking about a professional athlete i'm talking about it i want to be a doctor and they take the steps to do that.

Speaker 4 I want to be this or I want to be that.

Speaker 4 It tells me a lot because we didn't have the distractions that they got, Najo. No, we didn't.
We didn't. And

Speaker 4 it's hurting a lot of guys now. Because, see, they can sit around on them video games on them PCs and the Xbox and PlayStation.
That six to 12 hours can go by quick, quick. Married.

Speaker 4 And the thing is, you can make money doing it, Najo.

Speaker 4 Kid like, say, hey, I want to be a streamer. Many.
What?

Speaker 4 I want to stream. You can make money.
You look at you look at a Casanad or you look at Speed or you look at some of these guys, man. They're making millions and millions of dollars.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Man, look, even if you could have made money back then,

Speaker 4 my grandma, Mary Porter, said, uh-uh, get your ass out of this house. You go in the fields.
I'm telling.

Speaker 4 At first,

Speaker 4 the TV got to work for you to play video games, and our TV wasn't working half the time. So, hey, funny, the funny thing about it, too, even in today's era,

Speaker 4 with players more focused on building the brand because of social media, instead of working on your craft, you know, working your craft and handing your business in between the lines and handing your business on the hardwood, the brand going to take care of itself because you're handing your business where it matters most.

Speaker 4 Now you got to do, you got some, you got some players, regardless of social media, regardless of the game, and regardless of all the distractions, they show up.

Speaker 4 And you can tell they put in the work, especially in college. You know, your Travis Hunters.
Yes. You know,

Speaker 4 your Jeremiah Smiths. You know, there's

Speaker 4 your Shador Sanders, your Camboy.

Speaker 4 There's some other people, Abdul Carters, you know, the other players that have been able to succeed that are newly in the league, you know, your Justin Jeffersons, your Chasers. So

Speaker 4 players or dudes like that that have a singular focus, despite all the distractions going on around them, to still be locked in on what the end goal is and keeping the main thing, the main thing. Yep.

Speaker 4 Well, I commend them. I commend them.
Because it's hard.

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Speaker 4 Zotopia 2, best pitcher, plus 6,500.

Speaker 4 Damn, when was the last time an animation won best pitcher?

Speaker 4 Huh? Never? Oh, no. Never.

Speaker 4 You're talking about the 98, the 98 years. They've been doing this, Ocho.
Right. Never.

Speaker 4 I guess they say the Cowboys never gonna going to win the Super Bowl. Not this year.
Oh, man.

Speaker 4 That's what they say.

Speaker 4 If they go up and get Eston Genti at six, they got a good chance. Man, you know, Jared Jones ain't finna give up that draft capital, what it takes to zoom up that draft board to get it.

Speaker 4 If he's serious about winning, when do you know them to be serious about winning? You're right about that. So I'm with you when you're right.
That's one thing about it. What about the Cowboys guy?

Speaker 4 What can you say? 12? 12? Yo.

Speaker 4 Oh, that'll cause.

Speaker 4 a that's a couple of that's a that's your second round and possibly your third or your fourth one to move up. There's six spots.

Speaker 4 I think Ash and Gentie probably going six to the rate. Wait, the raiders at six, right? Or am I tripping? Yeah, I think the raiders at six.
I say he might, I think he might go to the raiders.

Speaker 4 Now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 4 Mr. International said, guys, NIL made college sports more entertaining.
Agree or disagree? I like that.

Speaker 4 I like it. I like it.
I like it. I like it.
I like it a lot.

Speaker 4 And I like it a lot because we've heard so many horror stories back in the days when there was no NIL money, but players get in trouble, can't eat, can't pay for certain things.

Speaker 4 So they had to do whatever they needed to do to make ends meet.

Speaker 4 The fact that NIL is helping players early, being able to take care of their families before they make it to the next level, or some players that might not even ever make it to the nfl they're still getting compensation for their likeness because sometimes college might be your last stop yeah yeah you know for the most percentage that most athletes in college is their last stop i mean yeah yeah so so those who have a chance to make a little piece of change man do what you got to do man to make the most of it yeah man sometimes it's like a credit it's like a pre-paid credit card joe you got a limit on it sometimes the limit is college hey sometimes the limit high school sometimes the limit is is jv

Speaker 4 hey hey when you know that when you know that especially in college you get to get as much as you can take yeah opportunity hey hey i'm start breaking out tape do my do i go into coaching right

Speaker 4 right because everybody ain't gonna make it to the to the professional the nba to a professional in your said sport be it football basketball baseball track and field tennis hockey whatever the case may be everybody isn't going pro.

Speaker 4 I know you think you are, but not everybody can. They're not beneficial.

Speaker 4 There are a million kids that's going to graduate.

Speaker 4 Ain't no million kids going to college, and ain't no million kids going to the NFL. Yeah.

Speaker 4 It's a small percentage. I mean, think about it.
It's only been 25, 26,000 men that ever play in the NFL. Coach, play, GM in the NFL history.
Yeah. That's a long way from a million, don't you?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Hey, hey.
Not even 100,000.

Speaker 4 hey listen i think the nil has made college fun to watch again though it's yeah made it more exciting obviously we see the money that these guys are getting and uh it's it's a lot more it's a lot more on them uh i think uh

Speaker 4 you know it's been fun to watch man but they do got to get a hold of this uh they got to get a hold of this because i see it getting worse on than before it getting better oh yeah

Speaker 4 yeah for sure for sure yeah it's gonna get worse when it get better

Speaker 4 i mean also you know hey go ahead oh joe no i'm gonna say also the kids need to understand too if you really like that if you're really him you know all this bouncing from school to school to school to school if you really like that oh the way you may think you are you'll get the money wherever you go you know that huh for sure you you'll get the money wherever you go so thinking you're gonna get more going somewhere else when you really not they really don't value you like that maybe you think you're not the person you are or wherever you are you're not you're not as good as you think you are is what i'm trying to say so i think the kids are going to run into that problem as well joe thinking that they they're they're so good yeah that they can go somewhere else and get more money i think that's going to be another issue they're going to run into like uh it's going to be a wake-up call you good but you really not like that or they would have paid you they wouldn't have had no problem paying you you would have got it the first time uh oh you

Speaker 4 go ahead joe well i think you know the smaller schools ocho

Speaker 4 yeah but see the five fives gonna go down there gonna go to them smaller schools and start it starts taking taking

Speaker 4 three years already. He got experience in college.
He knows what it takes to be a collegiate athlete.

Speaker 4 They want that. They want that now.
They no longer want these freshmen

Speaker 4 coming straight out of high school. They want

Speaker 4 experience because, listen, this is a professional now that we're in, and these guys are getting paid. So look, we ain't just out here rolling the ball.

Speaker 4 Let you go out here and just do what you want to get better. Now, we're bringing in guys who we think are going to help us win right now.

Speaker 4 Okay, I got you.

Speaker 4 OU SS 2004 Uncanocho. Not that Dion is struggling to pay it for his kids college, but do you find it odd that the second his kids aren't in college anymore, he wants a cap on NIL?

Speaker 4 Just seems like convenient timing.

Speaker 4 I don't think

Speaker 4 I don't think the question had been raised before or

Speaker 4 this is the first time they asked him. I think if you asked him while his kids were playing, he he might have said the same thing.

Speaker 4 I think

Speaker 4 is that with anything,

Speaker 4 you have to, you need a governing body. And right now, there is no governing body with this NIL.
So it's just kind of like the wild, wild west, don't you?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 what is it that, okay, you sign a two-year deal. You get to break the contract.
If you don't get there, if the

Speaker 4 school can't break it, you can't break it. Right.

Speaker 4 I I think that's the, because

Speaker 4 I think the guy in Tennessee, I don't know what he was thinking because he's going to get 2.4. He goes and gets 1.7, 1.8.
He goes to California.

Speaker 4 That's half of that's going to go in taxes.

Speaker 4 I don't think Tennessee, Tennessee doesn't have state income tax on your.

Speaker 4 Did he get more at UCLA? He got less. And he got to pay more taxes.

Speaker 4 So it made no sense. You see what I mean? And there's a small example right there.
Thinking you better,

Speaker 4 thinking you better than what you really are. And you're going to go somewhere else and get more money.
And now you got less. Yep.
Like if you was him, if you was like that, and I mean no disrespect.

Speaker 4 I'm just talking about from a financial standpoint and wanting more money. If you really like that,

Speaker 4 they wouldn't hesitate to pay you more. True.
If you were that much of a difference maker, oh, you want what? Actually, what? Two million? You want to go from 2.7 to 4? Oh, no problem.

Speaker 4 No problem.

Speaker 4 If they really value you like that on the

Speaker 4 did oh wait, listen, over overestimating the value.

Speaker 4 And that's no disrespect to him. I'm just using that as an example.
And Mr. International's.

Speaker 4 Go ahead. Go ahead.
Would you say something, Jeff? Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 Mr. International, being a pro athlete isn't as popular today as it was back in the 1970s.

Speaker 4 Actually, I think it's more popular. You see the money they get paid? Who said that? Mr.
International.

Speaker 4 Mr.

Speaker 4 Mr. Nad.
Come on now.

Speaker 4 Come on now.

Speaker 4 shoot

Speaker 4 i'm gee

Speaker 4 uh i can't even pronounce his name it's n i k a r a x h i i don't know what that means bro but anyway for for both if you had to pick out of quarterbacks from this pool who's most likely to leave ringless and ocho pay the man his money

Speaker 4 so i guess he said out of cam ward shadour jackson dart slaw is that what he's talking about yeah okay

Speaker 4 are we supposed to predict the future on them on who's gonna win the ring

Speaker 4 he says who's most likely to leave with ringless

Speaker 4 it could be all of them look at the situation they're going into

Speaker 4 yeah you you're going to you're going to bad teams very bad teams

Speaker 4 hey they come kemper norwood jr

Speaker 4 uh i'm taking the nuggets over the clippers in six and you

Speaker 4 damn So you got, you got, you got, I don't know about that one, Kemper. He said he's taking the Nuggets over the Clippers in six games.
Oh, no.

Speaker 4 I think if the Nuggets are going to win, they're going to win this in seven,

Speaker 4 Joe.

Speaker 4 I don't got the Clippers squandering this away, man. I got T-Lou keeping them boys ready, understanding the moment.
You know, we're going back home. You can't have a letdown at home.

Speaker 4 The only teams had it when you came off, you know, two emotional high games playing in Denver. You know, it's tough when you get home, you have a tendency to kind of relax.
So I'm sure T.

Speaker 4 Lou is going to have them dudes ready.

Speaker 4 I don't see see them i don't see them you don't see them having a letdown nah because they got to understand the moment right now they did what they correct dude so take advantage of this don't come out playing with them boys in game three keep playing hard working uh i don't know if kawaii gonna give you 39 every night but him and him and james being consistent the way they do hopefully one of them explode And or you have those other guys play well and win you a game in this series.

Speaker 4 But I like the Clippers, man. I like everything they do from the guys who they play, the life-size matchups that they have and the problems they're trying to give Denver.

Speaker 4 If Denver going to step up and come in there and play with some resiliency in LA, it's going to be a short series, man. Wow.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Quentin Mobley. All right, so Joe, how was it playing with Al Horford in Atlanta? How do you feel seeing your boy win that ring last year? Are you surprised he's still playing?

Speaker 4 No, I'm not surprised he's still playing. I'm happy for Al, man.
You know, when we got Al, when I was here in Atlanta, it was his rookie year. It was my third year here.

Speaker 4 This is our first time making the playoffs. Me, Al, Josh Smith, Mike Bibby, Jeff T, we played against that Boston team.
We was an AC playing against a one seed.

Speaker 4 And Boston went on to win the NBA championship that year in

Speaker 4 like six games.

Speaker 4 Us, the Atlanta Hawks and the Cleveland Cavaliers were the only team who took them seven games.

Speaker 4 Wow, yeah.

Speaker 4 So we was a young team. Al was a rookie playing against Kevin Gardnette.
I'm talking about playing his butt off. So to see him playing now, playing at a high level, man, I love to see him.

Speaker 4 Man, he take care of his body. He looked good out there.
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Bria Carter, Ocho, have you been in a Miami game yet? Yeah, of course, of course. I've been in the Miami game.
Watch Messi.

Speaker 4 I mean, obviously, you probably haven't seen footage with Messi and Beckham and George, who's also

Speaker 4 the owner of the team. I know everybody very well.
I don't frequent it often because I'm on the road too much, but I have been to the games.

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