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Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers Lose Game 1 to Timberwolves + Bucks in trouble!

Nightcap - Hour 1: Lakers Lose Game 1 to Timberwolves + Bucks in trouble!

April 20, 2025 1h 6m Episode 407 Explicit

Shannon Sharpe, Chad "Ochocinco" Johnson and NBA Legend Joe Johnson react to Round 1 of the NBA Playoffs featuring, LeBron James, Luka Doncic, and the Los Angeles Lakers taking on Anthony Edwards and the Minnesota Timberwolves, Nikola Jokic and the Denver Nuggets beating Kawhi Leonard, James Harden, and the Los Angeles Clippers, Giannis Antetokounmpo and the Milwaukee Bucks falling to Tyrese Haliburton and the Indiana Pacers, Jalen Brunson and the New York Knicks beating Cade Cunningham and the Detroit Pistons, and much more!

06:50 - Timberwolves vs. Lakers
26:12 - Knicks vs. Pistons
33:19 - Nuggets vs. Clippers
43:30 - Pacers vs. Bucks
59:30 - Suns looking to build defense in offseason

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And blow the game open. Well, actually they took over in the second quarter and blew the game wide open.
Outscored the Lakers by 18 in the second quarter after being down by seven, and they really never looked back after that. And they win 117 to 95.
It was a balanced effort. You got 16 from Julius Randle, 25 from Jaden McDaniels, who was 11 to 13, three or three from the three.
Ant-Man, he wasn't efficient shooting the ball, but he was dominant as his normal self. 22 points, and it was Nod's read coming off the bench.

8 of 12 from the field, 6 of 9 from the 3, 23 points.

The Lakers, with the exception of Luka, nobody really played well.

And in order for them to get back in this series,

because the home team has lost home court in the first game,

and normally that's not what you want to see,

but they still got a ways to go. This is an absolute must on Monday night, Joe.
They've got to get this game. But LeBron, AR, and they got to get some help from the bench.
But watching this game, tell me, what did you like about what you saw from Minnesota and what didn't you like about what you saw from the Lakers? I smell trouble I smell trouble for the Lakers, man. You know, we've seen the Minnesota Timberwolves being in this position, knocking off teams, whether it was Phoenix, whether it was Denver.
So, and man, he known to go in somebody else building, you know, steal some wins, play very effective basketball. Even though he didn't shoot well, I thought he put so much pressure on the rim and created so many other opportunities for other guys.
But, man, if you got Nas Reed and McDaniels going to shoot like that from three, you're in trouble. You're going to be in trouble.
It's going to be hard for you to win that game. So, you know, those guys were very efficient tonight.
And they just outplayed the Lakers. The Lakers looked lethargic.
They just didn't outside of Luka having that great first run, outside of that, they just looked like they were stuck in mud a little bit to me. Yeah, they didn't match.
They need to understand, this is the playoffs. This ain't no regular season.
It's different. And they didn't come out, you know, they came out really good in the first quarter, but that second quarter, and we know the Lakers, after watching them all year, Joe, they're going to have a quarter where they take it completely off.
Now, it's normally the third or the fourth quarter. It's not normally the first half.
It's normally they come out at the half or the fourth quarter. But we saw this turn of events in the second quarter where they ended up

giving up 38 points.

After giving up 21

in the first quarter,

they gave up 38

and then they gave up

another 35

in the third quarter.

So they gave up,

what is that?

73 points

in two quarters.

Ocho,

watching this game,

what was your takeaway?

Listen,

first off,

first off,

you know,

the Lakers didn't come out

and match the Wolves

the intensity, y'all.

Listen, on both

sides of the court, there was no intensity.

They didn't play defense very well.

Nobody played well in the Lakers offensively

outside of

Luka. So if

LeBron is off, then if LeBron

is off and Luka's on, somebody else has to come.

It got to be AR. It got to be Rui.

Somebody has to have some

points collectively as a group

if your starters aren't

Thank you. Ron is off and Luke is on.
Somebody else has to come. It got to be AR.
It got to be Rui. It got to be somebody has to have some points collectively as a group.
If your starters aren't, aren't final all cylinders, Ant-Man doesn't have a good, have a good game. Hell, Reed comes off the bench and he cut the fool.
McDaniel, McDaniel's playing well. It was just a bad, it was, it was a bad, it was a bad game all around for the ladies in general.
And normally when you have home have home court advantage and you're playing at home, you don't want the away team to steal a game at home. You don't want that.
So they already put themselves out in a hole. So Monday night, like you said, they got to have it.
If they lose Monday night's game, they're going to be in a heap of trouble. Hey, you see, it's hard to play Jackson Hayes when you're switching all them picking roles and you ain't giving up them lob threats.
Yeah. Pressure on the rim.
It is, and plus the thing, I think they're switching, they're too easy switching. I mean, as soon as the guy starts to show, they go ahead and switch it.
No, bro. Fight.
Fight on the top. Don't give up.
You copping out. You're watching out on us.
Don't do that. Hey, Benny Smith, don't pass that off the game, Vincent.
Don't pass that off to Luka. No.
Fight through that. Them little soft picks they said, Joe.
Come on, bro. You got to go harder than that now because it's easy.
Oh, you just back away. You go ahead and take it.
That's what

Aaron want. And you see, they keep

calling. They keep calling Luka.
Nah, we want

Luka. And they're going to keep, no matter

who he's guarding, they try to put him on the weekend.

Man, they're putting, they're putting

what's no boy's name?

Rudy Gobert.

Man, they're bringing Rudy Gobert down near the damn

half court to set a pick

because they're like, hey, we want whoever Luka's Garden, you're going to be the pick guy. Or Gabe Benson because Gabe is, what, six foot tall if we were lucky? But they got to fight.
I think they just got to fight hard over the pick. Now, look, if a team going to be knocking down those threes like they're knocking down, it's going to be tough.
It's going to be tough. It's not like the Lakers shot particularly bad from the three,

but when you let a team shoot 20, make 21 of them,

and they shoot 50%, they shoot 50% from the floor,

boy, you got your work cut out.

They couldn't get no stops.

You got your work cut out.

Couldn't get no stops.

Couldn't get none.

No, you're right.

You're absolutely right.

They got it.

So you keep taking the ball out the net, man.

It's going to slow our offense down a little more.

You know, they already a little small,

so through movement, it's great for them.

So you got to use misses as fast breaks.

And they've been great at that.

But, hey, man, Timberwolves wasn't missing tonight.

Them boys locked in.

I liked it.

The only way the Lakers were going,

if I had any chance or had any chance of getting back in this game,

is they were going to have to steal points in transition. That was the only way.
And they weren't able to do that. Well, they didn't have to get some stops.
And like Joe said, when you're taking the ball out of the net, they couldn't get any stops. Yeah.
Because there was a couple of times they forced to miss, but you don't realize you've done nothing until you gain possession of the basketball. So even if you force a miss, if you don't gain possession of the basketball, you've done absolutely nothing.
Right. And they wind them down a couple of times late in the clock, and they hit some threes, Joe.
You know, it's demoralizing, especially in your building. If you wind them down and you got them shooting the ball with one, two seconds on the clock, and they splashing threes, or they're making out, I mean, you're like, damn, well, what do I got to do, bro? I bet, come on now.
We don't wind them down. We took them out, grind them to the nub, and they didn't make your shots like that.
They got a big boost. Devin Chimzo hit that shot at right there.
Yeah, that was a big boost going in for them because at that point, they were down eight. Now they go down 11.
And to start the third, they go on like a 10-2 run. So now, all of a sudden, what could have been an eight-point game is not a 21-point lead.
But they've got to do a better job of... Look at this.
Rui, minus 26. LeBron, minus 22.
Jackson Hayes only played eight minutes. He was minus 11.
Luka, minus 12. AR, minus 25.
Dorian-Smith, minus 11. Vanderbilt, minus 2.
You ain't winning like that. You can't.
So now if you're Minnesota, now you try to be a little greedy. Yeah, I'm trying to get sweet steaks.
I'm trying to take both of them. You done came in.
You done did what you want to do. You just want to get one win.
You got the first one. Why not be a little greedy? Why not go in the second one? And you know this, Joe.
Normally, that first one is the easiest to win because especially if the team has been laying off. You got to realize the Lakers have been off for eight days.
Yeah. Yeah.
And so, you know, and they didn't play. They didn't play.
LeBron didn't play the last game in Portland.

So they've been off a little longer.

But normally the first game

is the one that you try

to steal on the road.

Once we get that,

we say, well, hey,

we here.

Hell, we might as well

get another one.

You know what I'm saying?

You might as well

just try to go get that second

while we're here.

And guess what?

We won't even have to bring

our ass back to LA

if we go ahead and handle

our business in Minnesota.

So the next game in LA too, yeah? Yeah. Yes, yes, Monday night.
Draft Kings no longer have, let's see, what it says, okay. The Timberwolves knocked down a playoff record, 21 threes.
Draft Kings no longer have the Lakers as the series favorite. Now, Minnesota is minus 135.
The Lakers are 115, plus 115. Poor performance when Magic has criticism.
Coach J.J. Reddick did a great job all season, but he didn't do a good job for game one.
The Lakers stood around on offense, played too much one-on-one basketball and didn't make any necessary adjustments. Tonight was one of the Lakers worst performance this season.
They were flat, had no energy, and they played like it was a regular season game. All the things that we just spoke about, Magic just highlighted, so clearly you and I, and we know what we're talking about here on Nightcap.
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Someone just text me a message to send directly to Shanna Sharp. Triple A,

NWA, I don't care what

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in five.

Hey, hold on, wait.

Wait a minute now. This is a good question.

And I'm going to pose this question to you.

Now, you had Lakers in five. Now, based on what you saw

tonight, how confident are you

in the Lakers winning this series still?

Look,

Lakers in five

Thank you. Lakers in five.
Now, based on what you saw tonight, how confident are you in the Lakers winning this series still? Look, Lakers in five rolls off the tongue. It don't sound as good Lakers in seven.
It don't sound as good Lakers in six, but I feel very confident. If it's six, seven, it don't matter.
Lakers in five. But what Magic said, if you watch them, they were standing around Minnesota getting offensive rebounds, kick out three.
Put them in the pick and roll. Like I said, they just got to do a better job of fighting over that pick.
You just can't give up that easy. If you do that, they're going to keep doing it.
Fight over that Finney. Fight over that Vanderbilt.
You've got to make it a little bit more difficult on the offensive end for Minnesota has the ball. Defensively, Lakers, you're going to have to be a little tougher than what you showed tonight.
This is not nearly good enough. LeBron, this notion, as you get older, it gets harder and harder to get in the rhythm.
You see, he had no points in the first quarter. Had 10 in the second.
Gave you three or four in the third. You can't do that.
Because I get it. You want to let Luka and Luka can get going.
But in the process, but at what cost? You get Luka going and now AR and Ron don't have no rhythm. Now, they didn't look.
If you just look at the numbers, they got 72, which is about what they would average in the regular season. But when you don't get any production from your bench, remember we talked about this, Joe, Finney Smith needs to give us 8-10 off the bench.
Gabe Benson needs to give us 6-8 off the bench. Vanderbilt gives us 4-6 off the bench.
Rui, you can't play 30 minutes and give us nine points. We need a little better than that.
And so, look, I'm not overly concerned, but, hey, I'm like, okay, now. I'm sure JJ's like, look, we didn't play nowhere close to our best.
Now, what you've done is given them confidence that they can come in and beat our ass on our court, in our building. Let's not play around.
Let's go ahead and get game two because you don't want to be in a situation, Joe, a bad pass or a missed call. Now you're down 0-2 going back to Minnesota.
And you got to get two to make this thing a series. So, look, the Lakers didn't play well.
They know, look, 47 points in the second half. They got 30 in the third.
They got 17 points. And they got it.
They cut it down. It was like one point.
It was 27. They got it all the way down to 12, Joe.
But they could sustain it. The Temple Wolves just seemed more desperate.
You know what I mean? It's like they understood the moment and they understood, you know, the now. Like, all right, we got to get one.
And they gained the momentum. Like I said, after Luka went on that run in the first quarter.
That was it. It was pretty much lethargic the whole game, bro.
It was like they were just out there floating. And Minnesota just played with more grit and grind.

They was effective.

But that's the thing though, Joe, is like, yeah,

if you look at the Lakers,

Luka's going to have a

big quarter in the first half. It's either

going to be the first quarter or it's going to be the second

quarter. But he's going to get off

one of those. And that's

why it's no surprise when you look up,

he's got 20 points at the half.

Because normally he's going to get off one of those. Yeah.
And that's why it's no surprise when you look up,

he's got 20 points at the half,

because normally he's going to go somewhere between

10 to 14 in a quarter.

Right, yeah. Now, if it's the first

quarter, okay, he's

going to get like a four to five minute break

to start the second. Yeah.

And it gets him out of a

rhythm. Hell, hey, he getting going like

that, Joe, I'll be tipping, hey, go

back in there for the first two to three minutes.

I'll get you

I'm sorry. and it gets him out of a rhythm.
Hell, hey, he getting going like that, Joe. I'll be tipping, hey, go back in there for the first two to three minutes.
I'll get you a rest. I'll get you a rest a little later because he cooled down substantially in the second quarter.
He caught fire again, but at that point in time, when you down like they were down, and Luka's going bucket for bucket with Ant or McDaniels or Naz Reed. You're really not doing anything.
Yeah. I mean, LeBron's going to have to take over.
He's going to have to take over the next game and take over early. Most of the time, he'll relax, let Luka get his, let Yarr get his, let everybody do their thing and then pick up.
And most of the time, LeBron will be efficient when he does decide to turn it on. But he got to do it early.
He got to start off early. Let's say, how about we not let Luka get in rhythm and LeBron gets in rhythm first and then allows everybody to catch fire at some point.
Then at that point, I think it'll make a little easier as opposed to you already being behind and you're forcing the missing shots as opposed to having to be efficient and you're already down 12, 13. Hell, at one point, was the Lakers down? What's the most the Lakers was down? Like 27, I think.
Almost 30 damn points. Yeah, it was bad, man.
It was bad. They got to pick it up, man.
They got to find a way. Like I say, I think this Timberwolves team is very scary, as we all know, because they were just in the Western Conference finals last year.
I know they traded. I know Cat was there, but Julius Randle tonight, he was effective, man.
He played with grit. He played with toughness.
And then, you know, those guys coming off the bench, the McDaniels, the Reeds, they want you a game. Yes.

They want you a game. So now, like I say,

man, hey,

I'm looking forward to Minnesota trying to be greedy in game two.

And plus, the thing is,

Joe, I've noticed this, and I've

noticed because I didn't notice it until he got to the

Lakers because that was the only time that we've ever seen

LeBron be injured. Yeah.
But when

he has these groin injuries,

he's not the same when he gets back

because he's hesitant.

Because he knows in Ocho being,

and I don't know if you've ever had a groin

or a hamstring injury, you know

suddenness is the worst thing to happen.

If you watch LeBron,

no rebounds, guys are right there.

He's just like, if the ball don't come

directly to him, he ain't making

no sudden move to go get it.

And it takes him a while

Let's go. no rebounds guys right there he's just like if the ball don't come directly to him he ain't making no sudden move to go get it yeah yeah and it takes him a while so he's really got to gather if you go back and look at that chase down block he had to gather yeah got it he did a great job of tracking but if you watch it and i've noticed this is that he's not going to do anything sudden because he doesn't want to he had that groin injury injury like what? The game before that, maybe it was the Rockets game.
He felt that little twinge and he came out. And so, whoo.
I understand what you're saying. Because it's like he don't rebound outside his area like he normally do.
You know, he's starting to break with that. Now he just kind of, like I said, that first quarter, man, it just kind of seemed like he was just kind of floating me.
You know what I mean? Yes. Yes.
I don't look what was hot, but it's hard, man. Basketball is a rhythm game.
You know what I mean? Bruin is a rhythm player as well. And when he gets it going, we know it's hard to stop him.
But him sitting back waiting until, you know, second quarter for him to scratch, that that's going to be hard. We get older like them old cars, a new car crank rattled up.
Now, old one, you got to pat that thing a couple times, Joe. Yeah, you got to bump them brakes on that chair.
And then you let it warm up. You don't just take off with an older car.
You let that thing get going, and now you good to go. LeBron, it takes him a little bit water.
I think the thing is that you see now, he's getting there a little bit earlier. He's getting those shots up.
He's probably staying on the court a little longer because he knows, hey, LeBron used to go out there and get him a little 10-15 minute workout. He good to go.
He probably out there 25-30 minutes now. Yeah, it's take a minute.
Hey, you gotta warm them old balls up, man. What you getting on the front way, baby? I'm ready though.
I'm ready. So the Lakers lose.
Minnesota go in, take game one in convincing fashion. 117 95.
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Jalen Brunson, 34 points. Cameron Payne had 11 of his 14 points in the fourth quarter.

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Hey, I was like, man.

Yeah. They right there.
I said, Detroit right there. Man, I went upstairs, came back down.
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Because I say ain't no damn way in hell. You down eight, and now all of a sudden, you up 13.
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But they did it. They went on a 21-0 run and broke the game open.
This game had Cade Cunningham played better. You know, they got some points

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He wasn't

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That's why I turned my head.

It was like, hold on.

But, man, Detroit's a scary team.

I thought they played a great game, man, up until that last quarter.

I don't know.

They just kind of collapsed.

Yeah, like the last nine minutes, the last nine minutes, they were good.

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He's a monkey wrench. He can do it all.
He gave you 13, six assists, seven rebounds. And then you get Cam Payne, who scored 11 points in the fourth, to go along with 14.
That was really hard. Malik Beasley does what he does, came in, gave you 20 points on six of 12 from the three-point line.
But they need some of their big guns. They need Cade Cunningham to be a little bit more efficient.
Yeah, I think Cade will be better. He'll be better in game, too.
But I know Detroit, they still kind of got to feel good about this, even though they lost. You know, like I said, they controlled the game, man, pretty much the entirety of the whole game, up until about the last eight, nine minutes.
They just kind of had a collapse. But, man, I like this Detroit team.
They play hard. They're scrappy.
Oh, man. They're a really scrappy ball club.
J.B. Biggerstaff got them playing.
He got them believing. They believe they belong.
I mean, they're not surprised that they're here. They believe it.
And they play, like I said, I agree with you. I think Cade will be more efficient.

Tobias Harris had one of his better

playoff games. Tim Hardaway Jr.

played really well. Thompson needs

to be a little bit better.

Yeah, I mean, yeah, you gotta be better

than that. You gotta be better than that.

We talking about Detroit and what they

did, how they played well. The Knicks won

the game. The Knicks won the game.

And the reason they won the game towards the end, we ain't talking about Jalen Brunson yet. He had 34-8.
And I'm going to call him the conductor. I'm going to call him the conductor because the way he orchestrated at the end of that game and crucial time and made those plays.
Yeah. Who's to say they don't play like that the rest of the series? What if Detroit don't win no more goddamn games because of what Jalen Brunson was able to do? Hell, goddamn Carl Anthony Towns out there with 23-11-5.
OG with his 23 and his 7. Yeah.
Who's to say they don't catch heat and that momentum carries into the next game and the game after that. Despite, you know, Cade not having the game, he should have scored 20 on 21.
Obviously, that's bad. He might come back and have, you know, a better game than that game.
But, hell, Jalen ain't going nowhere. Carl Anthony Towns ain't going nowhere.
Brunson, the thing that makes Brunson is that the big moments, he's at his absolute best. Shows up every time.
In clutch time, they're going to put the ball in his hands,

and sometimes they might go pick and roll with him and Cat,

but they normally let him operate, and they trust him.

Okay, whatever you do, we'll live with whatever decision that you make.

And in clutch situations, he's one of,

I defy you to find five better players in the NBA currently

that's better than him in clutch situations.

The last five minutes, the game within five. He's sensational.
And that was on display again. The and one, he's great at drawing contact Joe, getting to the foul line.
He was 8 or 10 a night from the free-throw line, 2 or 5 from 3, 34 big points. But like you said, it was the others.
OG, Cat, Josh Hart was sensational. And campaign gave you 11-4, 14 off the bench.
It's going to be tough. It's going to be.
Look, Detroit kicking themselves because they know they're supposed to have to stole this game. But like you said, Ocho, Cat and Brunson and campaign, they're like, nah, y'all ain't gonna get this one.
Nah, nah. It's the playoffs, though.
It's a fine line between winning and losing, Ocho. You can be feeling confident, like you're gonna run through the series.
Yeah. And then you can, hey, it can backfire to where you be like, man, we gotta get a game.
You know what I mean? I think Detroit, like I said, I think they feel good about it. Obviously, yep.
New York could go on. They could go on.
They could sweep them. But I like this matchup.
Detroit and the Knicks, man. And I'm looking forward to, you know, fireworks throughout this playoffs.
And this is not like Detroit. They gave up 40 points in the fourth.
Yeah. 40.
I mean, think about it. They gave up 27, 30, 26, and then you go 40.
That's what I mean. And JB probably said, look, guys, we're a little cleaner.
Hey, we gave up 40. Let's be a little better on the defensive end.
Hey, we're right there. This is a team.
Hey, in their building, we know how MSG gets to rocking. Guys make a few shots, but we were right there.
Clean this up. I agree with you, Joe.
I feel, if I'm Detroit, I feel good. I feel good.
Look, I want to win. Now, don't get me wrong.
I'm like, hey, damn, we lost. But I feel good that, hey, nine minutes to go in the game, we had an eight-point lead.
It wasn't like we were down eight. We had an eight-point lead.
So there's some things that we can do that I feel comfortable that we can do to get this win, get game, split this, and go back home for two. The Nuggets beat the Clippers in OT 112.
112-110 in regulation. Westbrook hit a huge three at the end of regulation, made key several defensive plays.
According to ESPN Research, Clippers gave Westbrook an average of separation of almost 10 feet when he was taking three-pointers in game one. That's the most separation he's gotten on three-point shots in a playoff game when taking at least five attempts since 2013-14.
Russ finished with 15 points on five of 17 shooting. You just have to live.
He's a guy that you're going to say, damn, come on! Fuck on, Russ! What are you doing? But, the one thing you'll never, ever question about Russell Westbrook is his effort. His effort.
Every time. He going to give you every freaking thing he got.
Full speed. He going to make some plays.
Like the play that Yoki triple-double, where he blows the smoke's delay up. Now, the Nuggets got 18 seconds to get a shot, and they don't even get a shot off.
Yeah. Yeah.
Russ, that's not like Russ, because Russ had a wide-open three. He passed it up, got caught between like, damn, what the hell I do, and the clock run out.
They're like, damn, Russ. But then he comes in, blocks the shot, challenges, gets two percent, gets a key steal, forces the ball off of James Harden.
Russell will win him this game. Yeah.
Because he got a couple, he got like two offensive rebounds. Aaron Gordon got two key offensive rebounds, and he hit that big three to put him up too.
Joe, what did you like about what you saw? Because the Nuggets were down by as much as what? 13? 15. Yeah, Clippers.
Paddling way back into the ballgame, and they ended up winning a very close ballgame. The Clippers was controlling the game pretty much the entirety.
You know, I do think, you know, Russ' energy and effort is definitely, it definitely helps the Nuggets, man. And I'm sure, you know, he enjoys this win, considering this against one of his former teams.
You know what I mean? So I'm sure he's happy about that. But this is going to be a long series as well.
I thought the Clippers was right there to really pull away. You look at Kawhi.
He was playing pretty good ball. James Harden was playing great ball.
They look good, man. They did.
I think James Harden getting in foul trouble. I think Zuboff's kind of getting in a little foul trouble.
That kind of took James out of his game, but James was sensational. 11 of 22, 4 of 9 from the 3, perfect from the free throw line.
32 points, 11 assists, 6 rebounds. Zub, 21, 13.
Kawhi, 22-6. Kawhi really had it going early.
He did. He and James, they had it going early.
He couldn't miss. He looked good, too.
The first quarter, then I think he ended up scoring like only two points in the second quarter. But Aaron Gordon got going late.
Jokic is Jokic. Jokic is going to be Jokic.
Don't look. Nobody defends him better than Zubac.
And then you look up and you're like, hold on, damn. The man had 29-12 and 9? And that guy defends him the best? Well, I hate to see the guy that defends him the worst.
Zubac played a good game too, though. Zubac had 21-13.
That's what, but see, if you play against against Yoke, you got to go at him on the defensive end.

Yeah,

you got to make him work on both ends.

And the thing,

but you notice,

late in that ball game

that fourth quarter,

he started challenging

more stuff.

Whereas early in the ball game,

he wasn't challenging.

And you see,

Harden laying the ball up.

Kawhi laying the ball up.

Guys were laying the ball up.

Now all of a sudden,

look,

bro,

you almost seven foot tall. Just go vertical.
Just make him go up over you. Don't give them no layup line.
Yeah. You know what you thought about watching the Nuggets? I mean, the game was good.
The Nuggets played really well. Obviously, I look at Harden, right? Harden, really, they control the game, most of the game, outside of towards the end.
But, hey, Harden had 32 and 11, but the Clippers turned the ball over 20 damn times. When it came to crunch time and then you got Russell being as intense as he always is, you know, as far as playing defense and with Joker playing the way he's playing, when it came to crunch time because of the turnovers, then the Nuggets was back in the game.
They were able to get back in the game because of the turnovers.

Yeah.

Game, I mean, it was good.

This is one that's going to go to a seven-game series.

And I think me, based on what I'm watching and the amount of knowledge that I've gained to this point,

the turnovers are going to be key on who wins this series.

Ask me how I know.

How you know? Because if they didn't turn the ball over 20 times a night, the Clippers win this series. Ask me how I know.
How you know?

Because if they didn't turn the ball over 20 times a night,

the Clippers win this game.

But I think you got to give,

I think you,

like you said last time,

we was talking about what Detroit didn't do.

Let's talk about what the Knicks did do.

Well,

in this situation,

you talk about what they did,

what happened?

They weren't out there by themselves now.

So somebody forced them into those turnovers.

You see, all of a sudden, Russ playing pass lanes. All of a sudden they started getting up into people.
All of a sudden it's not a layup line. Go ahead Joe.
I say that altitude kick in. You think that's real? Man, it is real.
Yeah. Yeah, it's tough, Ocho.
It's tough. Why do you think fighters go to Arizona? Why do you think they go to Big Bear? Why do you think they go to...
Why the U.S. Olympic training facility in Colorado Springs if it didn't make a difference? Right.
You know, it's funny. I always hear it all the time.
Obviously, I was able to play. I was able to play in Denver twice, obviously.
And you lost both times. I did.
I don't remember whether the wins or losses, but as far as my winning, my conditioning, I'm not trying to be rude. I'm not trying to be disrespectful.
I'm just saying it didn't affect me on the field as far as breathing is concerned. And obviously, during a time like that, it was pressure on me to be able to perform because, you know, I'm going to get 20-fold.
Yeah. I'm going to get the Hall of Fame and Chan Bailey at the time.
But I always get to think about it being difficult to breathe when playing in Diver in a high altitude. But I'm just kidding.
Yeah, it's less oxygen in there. I was just curious what y'all thought.
Ball travels farther. There's a reason why people love kicking.
They love punting. They love hitting a baseball in Coors Field.
The air is thinner. Altitude training.
That's why, like I said, if you go look at endurance athletes, they always train at altitude. They go to Flagstaff.
They go to Colorado Springs. They're in New Mexico.
And so that's what a lot and, you know, boxers, they go to Big Bear. They go to places where, you know, Mammoth and where you have to like, take you a little bit.
And sometimes, don't you remember, it came out, they had those masks on. Remember the breathing mask that you have on? Yeah, I remember those.
Yeah. I remember Beast Smoke used to wear one jam.
Mm-hmm. So, this is a sevengame series, Joe? This is a seven-game series? Yeah, I think it'll be a seven-game series.
I think, obviously, the Clippers, they came to Denver to get one. They probably feel good about this.
I just think they ran out of gas in their second half. I'm sure they're looking forward to the game, too But, you know, until you win on the other team's home floor, I'll get in the series.
Yeah. So, yeah.
This one, this one probably going to go, it's probably going to go seven. Russ said, the dynamic roller with Zubats, great cutters, guys catch logs.
My job is to be able to be low man and find ways to excuse my language. F-ish up.
He did a great job because, you know, like I said, Russ is still, he still has that quickness. He's not the finisher that he was, was he's not as athletic, but he's still, I mean, Hey, he's still going to get it done.
He's still explosive too. And spurts, you know, he can still, he can still do it.
And like you said, Oh, Joe, hold on. He had two steals, key steals.
But even though he didn't steal the ball, he forced some costly turnovers. Yeah.
You know what? I'm happy for Russ, too, having a game like he did today, where him being intense like he always is is a reason why they won. Because just not too long ago, you know, he was one of the reasons why they lost based on his decision making.
So this was good for him and gave him the confidence he needs to go into the rest of the series being aggressive like he always is and doing what's best for not only him but his team as well. And you have Russell and your team at this point.
You just got to accept what comes along he's gonna make some plays and you're like that was unbelievable son that's how we win and then he gonna have some plays like you're like Lord have mercy I sure wish I sure I sure we're not with the chapel this morning because you with it. You got to take the good with the bad.
Yeah.

You got to.

It's really that simple because he's going to make plays you like.

Only he could have made that play.

Right.

And then on the other side, you're going to say only he could have emptied up.

Nobody else could have emptied up, but he did.

So you've got to take.

It's kind of like Luka.

People say, man, I wish Luka stopped

flopping. I wish Luka stopped crying.

I wish Luka, you got to accept it.

He's not going to stop. He can't stop.

Right. That's part of him.
He can't.

He can't. Every time,

if he doesn't make a shot, he's going to look at the

ref like, he looked at me.

You know he ate

a pasta for pregame.

So you're not going to call no foul.

Right.

So you just, Joe, you just live with it.

Mm-hmm.

And that's where I am on that right there.

So Russ, you got to live with it because he's going to make some spectacular plays,

but he's going to make some plays that leave you scratching your head.

Well, you know the good thing about it, though?

The good outweigh the bad with Russ.

The good plays outweigh the bad.

Most times the bad ones come at opportune times when they shouldn't happen. And that might be the only issue.
Yes. Yes.
The Indiana Pacers blow out the Milwaukee Bucks by the score of 117-98. Man, after finishing with the worst defensive rating in the NBA, the Phoenix Suns probably just...
What you got up here? Torian Prince got some cardio in. Kyle Kuzma, he was on his road bike too.
He got cardio in. Hey, they got double got double cardio.
They got... No, no, no.
They ain't get a... Hey, Torian Prince, 20 minutes, zero points.
Kyle Kuzma, 22 minutes, zero. But here's the thing that was so amazing about Kuzma.
Uh-huh. Kuzma had zero points, zero rebounds, zero assists, zero steals, zero blocks, and two personal fouls.
Man, that's scratch. Hey, see, this is one I wasn't able to see.
I didn't get to see this one. You know, I was at my track meet watching my baby run.
Yes. So this is the one game I didn't get to see because when this game was going on, this is exactly when, you know, my baby was running the 400 and the 4x4.
Man, this was everything I expected. Godly numbers from Greek Freak.
Yeah. Just didn't get no help, man.
Didn't get no help. No, Indiana, their greedy team as well, they got a bunch of guys who can score the basketball and do a multitude of things on the court to affect the game.
And if you got two guys in your starting lineup who giving you donuts, you ain't got a chance of winning in the league like this. Boy, the last time I seen this many donuts, I was at Krispy Kremes and Duncan Robinson.
I mean, Duncan Donuts. This man, think about it.
He was 0-5 from field. He was 0-2 from the three-point line.
He was 0-2 from the free-throw line. Zero rebounds, zero assists, zero steals, zero blocks, and zero points.
So you only got like nine stats that you can get. You can get something on one end.
Nine of the 10 demand had a zero. I don't know.
Joe, I don't know if I've ever seen that in all my life. Now, like I said, I was in 4-H.
I grew up on a farm. I went to the county fair and I ain't know Joe I don't know if I've ever seen that in all my life now like I said I was in 4-8

I grew up on a farm

I went to the county fair and I ain't never seen

no issue like this

Chad

I don't think y'all understand this

this man was 0-5 from the field

0-2 from the

3-point line 0-2 from the

free throw line he had 0 assists

0 rebounds

0 steals 0 blocks

I'm sorry. line or two from the free throw line.
He had zero assists, zero rebounds, zero steals, zero blocks,

zero

points.

How?

I mean, Yannis like, hey,

I tell you what, this is what I want

y'all to do. Kyle

Kuzma, give me eight.

Torian Prince, give me eight.

I'll do the rest until Dame gets

back in game three.

They're like, no, no, no, no, no. We're going to leave you out there by yourself.
I mean, they got Giannis outside. They got Giannis.
They done closed the door on Giannis. They done beat the hell out of Giannis.
And they just closed the door. They ain't helping but nothing.
Does Kyle Kuzma and Prince have the green light to shoot when they want to? Even if you're missing like that, do they have the green light? You know how? Shoot or shoot, even when you're missing, you keep on shooting and at some point it's going to fall. Are they allowed to do that? Yeah.
Hell no. See? This is the playoffs.
This is the playoffs, huh? If you got Greek putting all the pressure on the rim, and you're like, like, uh, uh, Torian Prince was the top three point shooter this year. It wasn't like he was no slouch.
He probably was top five in three point shooting this year. So I think the main thing is you don't have Dame out there.
Another guy who can put pressure and, uh, get his own, make plays for others around him. So's watching Greek Freak.
He's probably the only one really out there who can go out there and get their bucket. Yeah.
So that's why it looks the way they look. Kyle, Kyle, as soon as I asked you, first thing you said was no.
So if Kyle Kuzma doesn't have the green light to shoot at Will, being at some... Why the hell I'm going to give him the green light? He got a learner's permit.
He ain't got a real driver's license. So what the hell I'm gonna let him drive for? If Dame ain't playing, you got to get them points from somewhere.
Them points that Dame would have, they got to come from somebody. The man played to Ocho, the man got cardio.
The man's on the station, everybody. No, that's what I'm saying.
He was 0 for 5, he was 0 for, and 9 of the categories, right? Yes. Maybe he doesn't have the green light to continue to shoot at Will, even though at some point you got to make him.
That's reserved for a Steph Curry. That's reserved for a dame.
That's reserved for a Luka. You can't give no guy, no Kyle Kuzma, no green light to shoot it whenever you want to.
Hell no! Okay. All right.
And you got look at, out the bench, you got Green gave you 15.

Kevin Porter Jr. gave you 12.

Gary Trent Jr. gave you 14.

But you got two guys in your starters.

Think about it.

Of your five starters, Giannis had 36.

The other three had 14.

So they got 50 points from their starters.

Yeah.

You can't win. You're not winning.
Hold on. And that's why.
That's why it was a long side of the game like that. Hold on.
Hold on, Joe. So, listen, I'm not a coach.
So, as a coach, do you make the adjustments and put the players in that score 14 and 15? No. And do that? Okay.
No. All right.
No.

You gotta be better.

But look, Ocho.

Cool.

Look, there have been times

that sometimes that you're like,

man, Kuzma, he's figured it out.

Yeah.

And then there are other times

if I got glasses on, I'm a coach.

I put my glasses down and say,

Lord, have mercy.

I'm rubbing my temples.

Because he makes you scratch your head. If you know you got players like that, that don't have the confidence, you get them going early.
You run plays for them on purpose. Allow them to get an easy bucket.
You get an easy bucket, it gets you in rhythm. Hell, when it comes to football, what we do? You drop a ball, what's the first thing the coach do? Find something easy for you to get the ball back in your hands, to be your confidence back up.
That's what they do to you. The third receiver ain't going to keep getting balls thrown at his ass.
He drop them. Okay.
You only get, that's the problem, that's the point. You only going to get so many opportunities before they put somebody else's ass in there.
Okay, but I'm only saying. You keep getting thrown to you.
You drop a few. That's not reserved for anybody else.
I'm just saying that. I'm only saying

it because, okay, Dame Dollars

not playing. If Dame Dollars is

not playing, now, whoever

else is in there, they got to replace

the production in some way. They might

not be able to score as much as

Dame Dollars is, but

we got to find ways to get those individuals

who don't score like that

and put them in position to get them points in some kind of way. Joe, can you explain to Ocho, they put him in position.
He laid it in because he put goose eggs. Hey, and Indiana, they taking a challenge, man.
They got guys who ain't scared to guard, Giannis. You know, the turn of the Pascal Siakam, so it's not

like they just totally double

teaming him and they making them,

you know, they're making him score. Like, Giannis

shot 14-3

tonight.

They're making him go get it.

And I'm not going to live with that.

And he was 8-15 from the free throw line.

Okay, I'll live with that.

Because guess what? What I'm not going to allow him to do, because if you go look at it like his last 10 games, he had like six or seven triple doubles. So he's scoring 30.
He's giving you 13, 14 rebounds, and he's making it easy for others to score. So nah, hell nah.
You go ahead and score. Don't even worry.
Hey, how many you want? You want 36? You want 40? Go ahead. But I guarantee you them other guys

ain't going to hurt us.

See, that's the problem.

Yeah, and that's why you see

Kyle Kuzma only had

five shot attempts

in 21 minutes.

You know what I mean?

Like, they not leaving him,

giving him no comfortable looks.

Giannis, if you're going to beat us,

then you're going to have

to score 50, my boy,

just to keep y'all

in the game.

Yeah.

I give you that.

And see, when you play

the Nuggets,

okay, you gonna let Yogi get his

35 and you gonna let him have 17 assists?

Is that what you, really? That's what you

trying to do? No. Get

whatever you want. Eat as much as you want.

But I ain't gonna let none of the other mofos eat.

Right. They gonna starve.

And you see, 0-0-9-5.

Because think about it.

Your starters, your bench players

played more than your starters.

Torian Prince played 20 minutes.

Kyle Kuzma played 22 minutes.

Lopez played 21 minutes.

And Rollins played 19. Bobby Portis played 25.
Gary Trent Jr. played 27.
Kevin Porter Jr. played 29.
Green played 27. So that tells you.
Those guys wasn't getting it done. Hey, Docs and A, gone in there.
I think gone in there. Well, hey, when you look at it, Kevin Porter Jr.
and Gary Trent, they can kind of go off the bounce a little bit and create, you know, not all but for others as well. That's why when you got Prince in there and he only got one shot of tip in 20 minutes, that's because we're not leaving you.
You know, we're going to play y'all as man to man straight up. We ain't giving y'all no death shots, none of that.
And we're going to make y'all work for everything y'all get. Yes.
And look, and that's what you have to do. Say, hey, guys, I feel bad for you, Miles.
I feel bad for you, Siakam, because Yannis going to give you that work. He going to give you that work.
Yeah. Ocho is like, hey, we not finna double and then let everybody.
No, no, no, no. Hey.
Woof! Whoever got Ocho today, bro, he gonna hang about 150, 175 on you, but we ain't gonna let nobody else get nothing. You gotta take the challenge.
You gotta step up and take the challenge. That's gonna help us as a team, man.
It happens all the time. Right.
Because I don't want them other guys. Because Johnny's gonna get his.
Because he. Because if there's a crack, he's going to slide his slender ass through it, and either he's going to dunk it, lay it up, or you're going to foul it.
Because think about it. He had 23 shot attempts.
He had 15 free-throw attempts. Think about that now.
23 shot attempts, 15 free-throw attempts. He was working.
He was making him work. Right.
But you know, that's also exposing everybody else's weakness. I can't create on my own.
I can't put the ball on the floor and create space to get my shots off. That's a weakness.
But as a team, as a team, as a team, Ocho, that's the makeup of a team. Everybody ain't going to be able to go off the bounce and be able to create and get their own.
They're going to be great. They're going to be great off-ball defenders.
They're going to be great off-ball players, meaning 3 and D guys. Guys who got great energy on defense, who can cause havoc, and knock down the three, you know, offense.

So I think that's kind of the makeup of this team.

It's made up of Giannis and Dame to be the creators.

Yes.

You know, and these other guys got to chip in and give us what you got.

Yeah.

Because that's the thing.

Look, that's what Dory, he's not a guy that can take you.

George, those are the guys that you got three guys that can take you off the ground.

And when help comes, they kick, you make shots.

Everybody can't be, he can take you off the dribble, he can take you off the dribble, he can take you off the, no.

You need a certain guy that need to be able to catch and shoot.

Everybody has a role.

Now, you would like to think that when it's time for them to

play their role to the utmost,

they do it. Yeah, they hit their shots.

Yes, Giannis

is going to give you what he's going to give you.

Look, I done rolled Giannis down.

Giannis is going to have about 30.

He's probably going to have 13 rebounds.

Probably going to have 5 assists.

He's going to cover every night.

I done wrote that down in my book.

It's kind of like

at the end of the day, you wrote down Thank you. have five assists.
He's going to cover every night. So that's what I wrote that down in my book.

It's kind of like

at the end of the day, you wrote down

everything that you was going to do, what you was going to do.

Well, I can write down what Giannis

is going to give me before the game even starts.

He's going to give it to you every time.

13-6.

Probably going to shoot

probably 60%.

Mid-50 to 60%. Okay, that's Giannis.
What about Torian Prince, coach? All right, don't be cracking no jokes now. Because I don't know what the hell he's going to kill us.
I don't. I don't know.
Kyle Kuzma, I saw Kyle Kuzma. I was ready for Kyle Kuzma to go.
I said, I had seen enough. When he was with the Lakers, nah.
It's time to move on. He only going to be so good.
He going to redeem himself. He can only go up from here.
Yeah. He can only go up there.
You never have two games back-to-back like this. I sure hope not.
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Hold on. Let me see these zeros.

Zero for five from the field.

Zero from two from the three.

0 for two from the free throw line.

Zero rebounds.

Zero assists.

Zero steals.

Zero blocked.

Zero points.

Now, it would have been really bad if he had zero fouls.

So you was out there for 22 minutes and you didn't trip nobody hey yo he didn't trip anybody i mean you didn't run through no screen you ain't run through no screen you ain't do nothing you'd have zero cost of boy yeah yeah yeah that'd that'd be a problem that's hard man that's hey that's a tough stat line. Yes! Hopefully he'll use that for fuel, though.

Hopefully he'll use it for fuel and come back in game two

and give...

You got to give Giannis some help, man.

I mean...

Hey.

You know what he going to do.

He just need a little help, man.

Yeah.

That joker had an Ocho double.

You know you had a triple double or a triple single? Yeah. Hey, that was he nobody helped.
Eight zeros. Yeah.
That joke had an Ocho double. You know, you had a triple double or a triple single.
Hey, that was he nobody had eight zeros. Yeah.
Now, if you got money with eight zeros, well, you got the paper. Yeah.
You don't want to have that on the basketball court. After finishing with the third worst defensive rating in the NBA this season, And the Phoenix Suns' priority this offseason is to get tougher on the other end of the court.
On the latest episode on YouTube show, NBA Insider Chris Haynes explained the Suns intend to move away from trying to build around a couple of stars and having more defensive minded and tough players that allow them to be more physical. Joe, is this the right move? Because I believe the only guy that's untouchable is Devin Booker.
Matt Hbill seems to have made it very clear, Devin Booker, what he's done in this community, what he's meant for this team, what he's meant for this city, he's off limits. Everybody else, step right up.

Depend on what you offer. He can say that now.

But depend on what you offer.

I mean, man, they got two guys

who were just on the USA Olympic team.

And they

didn't even get in the play-in game.

Yeah.

That's unfortunate, bro.

So, I don't know.

I'm a Devin Booker fan, man, but you never know what these owners want to say, you know, first get in position, man.

A lot of them, this is just for fun for them.

You know what I mean?

So, you know, they make moves that, you know, normally a seasoned person wouldn't do sometimes.

I've been on the other end of that. I've been on the other end of

that. I know what it's like.

But here's the thing. I think

well, if you get rid of everybody,

who are the fans going to rally behind?

I think you keep Booker

just out of that. Now, I don't, me personally,

I don't think they'll trade

Book. That's just me personally.
You believe

that that's possible considering, but

what are you going to get?

Maybe get some draft picks.

Some of these young cats coming down.

Hold on. But I'm

saying, you want to start your

whole team with draft picks?

If you want,

he mentioned he want better defense. He want physicality, right? You get rid of your scores.
Bradley Beal, you know what, he agrees. He says, you know what, I have a no trade clause, but I'm going to let y'all send me somewhere where I actually want to go.
You move on from KD. So you go defensive-wise, you go physicality, you keep Devin Booker.
Well, where the hell is the scoring coming from? Where the scoring coming from? Now, I'm listening to us talk. We just talked about the Bucs, and you got two people.
You got one person. You got Dame out.
Dame is out. You got the only person putting up points that you can rely on to put the ball in the goddamn basket.
And Giannis, but now we talk about getting rid of two prolific scores.

Actually, yeah, two and keeping one.

And you want to go physicality.

So that just depletes your team and puts you in a hole.

You got everybody playing defense, but you ain't got nobody to score.

That don't make no sense.

How many games go in like that?

Hey, we can only go up, man. We didn't make the play in, Ocho.
mean we gotta do something man we're in the wild wild west like it's tough over there man it's tough they gave up so much they gave up so much to get kd they gave up so much they gave up draft picks they gave up one of the better perimeter defenders in mikhailges. They gave up Cam Johnson, the guy that could knock down shots.
Okay, you said, okay, big three, big three, big three. And now you lose DeAndre Aiden.
Now, DeAndre Aiden wasn't the greatest defensive center, but he was a seven-foot rim presence. Now you don't have that.
You have Nurkic. Nurkic is a big body.
He can rebound, but that's about it. Slow-footed, no real threat on the offensive end.
You had Alex Land for a while. Now he with the Lakers sitting on taking up space.
So when you look at the Phoenix Suns, I mean, I want some defense. He's probably going to want to go.
I mean, look, at this point, Brooklyn accommodated Kevin Durant. I want to go to Phoenix, play with Chris Paul, CP3.
Well, that's what they need. They need a point guard.
Let's start with that first and foremost. They need somebody to initiate the offense.
I'm going to take the ball out of Devin Booker's hands and put him at the two. Devin Booker is best at the two.
Not running the offense, at the two. Let's start with that.
Secondly, yeah, you got guys that can put the ball in the basket, but you can't guard a parked car with an Uzi and the motor missing. So now everything is a layup line.
Everybody getting whatever.

They get whatever they want against Phoenix.

Whatever.

They get layup line.

They get shoot around threes.

You're not winning.

You're not winning like that.

Yeah.

They try to play Devin Booker like the Clippers do James Harden.

Yes.

Appreciate the offense.

Can score a wheel. A willing passer, can pass.

And it just hadn't worked out for him.

It just hadn't worked out for him.

But if you remember, James was always that.

Because when he came in with the shock troops at OKC, the ball was in his hands.

So he's always been there.

So now he goes to Houston, and now he's not coming off the bench. You remember those first couple of games that he had with Houston? They was like, what the hell? Like 38, like 35 so James Harden has always had the ball in his hands.
Now granted Russ came in and took some of that and obviously when you play with KD but when he went to Houston and perfected that craft

so now

he can play like that. Booker has never

ever had to play like that.

So you're

asking a guy to do something that he's really

never done. There's nothing for James Harden to do

that because guess what? Everywhere James

Harden has been

since he left OKC, he's had the ball

in his hand. Had the ball in his hand at Brooklyn.
Even with Kyrie and KD, James had the ball. He goes to Philly with Ben Simmons, well Ben was gone.
When he got there and you had Joel Embiid and you had Tyrese Maxey, he had the ball. He goes to the Clippers, Paul George, Kawhi,'s got the ball So you That's what James Harden does He has the ball You're asking Booker to do something that he hasn't done Yeah, James is a great ISO player, he has a great Feel for the game And he understands when to pass And when to be.
And he's been great at picking his spots.

Yeah. I mean, they're two totally different players.

He's a better isolation player than Devin Booker.

Yes.

You know, plus his IQ is very high as well, which is why he's a rank up these double-doubles

the way he does.

He's led the league in assists twice.

So clearly he can facilitate

offense. Clearly he understands he's an IQ

basketball player.

Look, you're not leading the league and assist. Now, granted, hopefully the guy on the other end don't monk it up.
But he understands. He's tremendous.
And him and Zubats, he's turned Zubats into a $100 million man. Yes, sir.
Because him and Zubats in the pick and roll, he's going to drop it. He's going to leave it for him.
And Zubats is going to power at home. He's tremendous.
He perfected that step back three. Yeah.
James Harden. Yeah.
Because he was the one that was... I was like, hold on.
He traveled. He took two steps, huh? Hey, no.
Joe, when I first saw him do it, I said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. That ninja traveled.
Hey, hey. You know, I had a little step with Houston.
I played with James, man, on that year. They won like, what was it, like 22 games in a row or something like that.
They hit about 36 a game. Yes.
I came in on the win streak they had probably already won like 11, 12

and a half games in a row or something like that. Yeah.
About 36 a game. Yes.
I came in on the win streak. They had probably already won like 11, 12 in a row.
But, man, his preparation for the game is different. He really sits in.
In the gym, he works on them shots, them orthodox shots, which is why he's so tough to guard. He's so crafty in the pick and roll because he can beat you in every way.
If you go under, he's to shoot the three. If you go over, he going to keep you in jail back there, keep you in that little huckleball.
Now he got the floaters, the dishouts, the lives, the zoobop. And that's hard to stop, man.
Look, he got a crew with him. Those guys made some shots tonight.
That's why I was shocked they lost the way they controlled their game. Yeah.
I think Kawhi cooled off a little bit in the second half because the first quarter, he had it going. Yeah.
James had it going. I think James getting in foul trouble, that hurt them more than anything.
Yeah. Yeah.
That really, like, because it took him out of his rhythm. But James, look, I mean, you can't say enough good things about James Harden.
First of all, he's a member of the 75th anniversary team. That tells you right there.
He's an MVP. He's an all-NBA selection.
And he had the highest scoring month since probably 70. He averaged 43 in a month.
Which was a tick above what Kobe had. Remember, Kobe averaged like 35.
Yeah. When he had that 81, he had like four, five, 60-point games.
But James Harden is a great scorer in the basketball, but he's an IQ player. Normally, guys, it's hard to find a guy, he and Luka like that, that can score the basketball like that, that they can get you 60.

Yeah.

But they can get you 15 assists.

There ain't been very many guys in the history of the game that can score 60

and get you 15 assists.

Right.

James Harden and Luka can do that.

Yeah.

Yeah, he can affect the game in that way.

Yeah, he's a tough guard, man.

He's a tough guard.

You, James Jones, what you doing?

How do you improve the Knicks? I mean, excuse me, the Suns. How do you get them better? Because just a couple of years ago, they were in the playoff.
They were in NBA finals. They had a 2-0 lead on Milwaukee.
They ended up losing that. They make another run.
What are you doing? What are you doing? Man, first hope he keep his job. Okay.
There's a lot of people. Hey, man, you know, I really got rid of the coach.
They got rid of what? Three of the coaches. All them coaches still making money.
They fired Marty Williams after four years. They fired Bogle after 10 months.
They fired Bud Booneholder after 11 months. So you're about to have your fourth coach in four years.

So you got $80 million.

You got $80 million in coaches that's not even working.

And there's no players that's going to walk through that room and save your job, though.

No.

Who are you going to get when you got some of the best already?

That's what I need to go get.

Go ahead, Joe.

You starting over.

You try to get lucky. If you try to get some of these top draft picks this year.
And I don't know how you can do it, but there's some talent in this draft, man. Okay, Joe, you said talent in the draft.
Can you name one college player that can come in that's going to change the franchise? That can change. I ain't saying, when you say change the franchise, I ain the franchise, I ain't saying it's a, it's a, it's a rookie who can come in and give them a 60.
No, ain't no LeBron James, ain't no Kevin Durant in this draft. But you want it, you want excitement, you know, you want promise, you want hope.
Yeah. So, you know, it's some young females who can come in and keep these Phoenix fans excited enough to where they're still in tune with the Suns, man.
You know, they love their Suns down there.

Yeah. Yeah.