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Speaker 2 Wow, the Mavs said they're proud despite the tumultuous season. Clay, I think we persevered.

Speaker 2 We were down to eight, nine guys at one point, and we held up to four and got into the playing game, gave ourselves a shot to get into the playoffs. It sucks.
It really sucks.

Speaker 2 But I'm really proud of every man in this locker room. We showed up to work every day.
We try to do things.

Speaker 2 You try to do the right things every day. Jason Kidd called it an incredible season.

Speaker 2 So, I mean,

Speaker 2 they can't tell the truth. Jason Kidd can't say what he really wants to say.
What's that? What's that? You know what they want to say.

Speaker 2 They're not going to say it. They can't say it.
They are part of the team.

Speaker 2 Clay know what he wants to say, but he can't say it. What are you proud of, actually?

Speaker 2 You let your best player go.

Speaker 2 When you let your best player go, you brought in AD, but what happened?

Speaker 2 he got hurt as soon as he got there cancun on what

Speaker 2 and

Speaker 2 and kyrie got hurt now kyrie

Speaker 2 that's the killer

Speaker 2 you get kyrie back and you play now kyrie is tremendous in the pick and roll now just imagine him dropping that thing off the ad

Speaker 2 who got mid-range, can finish at the ref, and he's protection.

Speaker 2 And you got other two other bigs that can let AD play with his natural position, the player,

Speaker 2 where he feels most comfortable, which is the fourth slot.

Speaker 2 So I'm not, look,

Speaker 2 I never thought this was like we look at this right now. Because if you look at it right now, yeah, the Lakers got the better of the deal.

Speaker 2 But in full strength, when they get Kyrie back and we pair him with AD, now you might have to ship one of those bigs off

Speaker 2 and get, I mean, look, do I believe Dallas is going to be in the KD sweepstakes? Yeah. But what do they have to offer?

Speaker 2 I don't think they have the, I don't think they have the draft capital.

Speaker 2 So if they don't have the draft capital, basically the only team that has draft capital, so KD is going to OKC. So it's going to be KD and SGA.

Speaker 2 No, I don't know, but you have to understand.

Speaker 2 I don't know if Sam Presty wants that. Right.

Speaker 2 SGA. Because look, now you got SGA got the ball in his hands all the time.

Speaker 2 Hey.

Speaker 2 Hey, if they win it, if OKC mess around and win it,

Speaker 2 that up. They're not going to play with it? No.

Speaker 2 Because I agree with you, Joe, because I believe had Golden State won the championship against Cleveland when they was up 3-1, I don't believe they get Kevin Durant. Nope.

Speaker 2 But they got Kevin Durant because they realized we'll never be able to beat Cleveland again. Right.
With LeBron at his apex, Kyrie is now an all-star is at his apex. We'll never beat him again.

Speaker 2 We got to get a neutralizer. We've got to get somebody that can go head to head with LeBron James.

Speaker 2 And at that point in time, there's only one man that can go head to head with him and match him bucket for bucket. And that was Kevin Durant.
No.

Speaker 2 Yep, that was it. Because when you look at it, LeBron and KD, that's a push.
Steph and Clay, Steph and Kyrie, that's a push.

Speaker 2 But the difference was what Clay gave you.

Speaker 2 Kevin Love wasn't consistent enough. And when they went, and when LeBron went to the bench, when they brought in Livingston and they brought in those shock troops in the second unit.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know if Kevin Durant wants to go back to OKC.
Probably not. He left for a reason.
That's what I was saying. I don't know.
I don't think so either.

Speaker 2 Do Sam Presty want him back? Because, you know, you heard the rumor, Joe, Sam Presty valued Russ more than he valued KD.

Speaker 2 KD, if KD's going somewhere else again,

Speaker 2 after leaving the teams, he's left, Brooklyn, Phoenix, OKC,

Speaker 2 obviously he played with the Warriors and got rings. Wouldn't he want to go somewhere where he has a chance to get another ring and not just be playing basketball or going to another team just

Speaker 2 to be there? Because I want to be happy. I want to go where I can win.
And what team gives him the best chance to win?

Speaker 2 Back home in OKC.

Speaker 2 I said the heat. I mean, even with Brad going to the Heat, there's nothing the value that we can do.
This ain't the Wizard of the Bars.

Speaker 2 There's no place like home. There's no place like home.
This ain't it.

Speaker 2 Hey, I like him in Detroit with Kay Cunningham. We just said, I'm sure he wants to win a championship.

Speaker 2 Hey, hold up, though. I like him in Texas.

Speaker 2 Mavericks or Houston?

Speaker 2 Championship. That ain't it? Yeah, yeah, it is.
Oh, yeah, him and Kyle Reed. Yeah, they'll be forwarding.

Speaker 2 And hopefully you can keep, if you can't keep both of them bigs, you can at least keep one.

Speaker 2 But here's the thing, though, Joe, what draft capital do you have to give up?

Speaker 2 I guess that 28 first-round pick that

Speaker 2 you got from

Speaker 2 the Lakers?

Speaker 2 Oh, they're going to have to piece something together. They're going to have to do some.

Speaker 2 You might have to get about five or six teams involved. You're going to have to do something.
You're going to have to make it work.

Speaker 2 And guess what, Joe? I ain't in the business to try to help you win a championship. No, I ain't got nothing.
I don't want to deal.

Speaker 2 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, Joe.

Speaker 2 Why not just go back to Golden State?

Speaker 2 He ran that course already, man. He did.

Speaker 2 But, Joe, you and I agree. You see, Ocho hadn't brought it bought in yet.

Speaker 2 Dropping Kevin Durant in doesn't automatically mean championship because we've seen him dropped in a couple of places other than Golden State. But Golden State had won

Speaker 2 73 games the year before Kevin Durant got there.

Speaker 2 They had an MVP, a unanimous MVP, the only guy that's ever won it unanimously.

Speaker 2 So it was a perfect fit.

Speaker 2 But let's be fair.

Speaker 2 The other places that he's been,

Speaker 2 he didn't make them better.

Speaker 2 Outside, when he was in Brooklyn and his foot was on the line when they played against the Bucs, there, yeah,

Speaker 2 I thought they had a pretty good chance, but I think Kyrie.

Speaker 2 James Hard was already hurt, and then Kyrie got hurt like game two. But they had a 2-0 lead now.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah. And game seven was on your court, or your home court.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Injury's a part of the game, man.
It happens.

Speaker 2 Hey, if Kyrie and Kevin Love don't get hurt, we might be having a different discussion about Steph Curry and LeBron. Yeah.
Tell me about that first one. The first one.
Yes. Steph Curry.
I mean,

Speaker 2 Kyrie got hurt in that overtime. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Kevin Love didn't even play at all. Go ahead, Ocho.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 I don't know, Joe.

Speaker 2 I like Katie. To me, it makes the most sense.
If he does go somewhere else again, again, another move.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking ring.

Speaker 2 I'm thinking ring. So you think you're saying OKC.
What I'm saying is... Okay,

Speaker 2 or the Warrior back

Speaker 2 to the Warriors, even though he's already done it.

Speaker 2 You're on the back end. You're not young no more.

Speaker 2 So cement your legacy even some more.

Speaker 2 Go back to OKC. Whatever riff or any issues you might have with,

Speaker 2 is it Christie? That's his name? Christie?

Speaker 2 Presley. Pressley, yeah.
Whatever. If there's any issues, mend that, man.

Speaker 2 We're talking basketball. Forget personal issues.
Or go back to the Warriors. I just think OKC going to do well this postseason.
And

Speaker 2 they can end up winning it without. They're the youngest team in the league already, Ocho.
So they end up winning that.

Speaker 2 Even if they got to the finals,

Speaker 2 I couldn't see them doing it. Because

Speaker 2 you're going to have to give some of that youth up you got over there.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but if you give up the youth, you're making up for it in production that KD going to bring.

Speaker 2 I don't think they're willing to do that. That's all I'm saying.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 I don't think they're willing to do that. Jay, like my grandma used to say, I raised my hand.

Speaker 2 I think the thing is for me, Joe, Kevin Durant went to go to state. He got the rings.
Now he gets to play free. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's why he went to go Golden State.

Speaker 2 Because we're going to have the same conversation. He's not going to go to the state.

Speaker 2 He's going to have the same conversation that we have about Carl Balone, about we have about Charles Barkley, about we have about other great players who's the greatest player never to win a ring.

Speaker 2 Right. He got the ring.
Now he can play free.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And he ain't coaching. Hey, Marco Ocho, he ain't coat till neither.
You know,

Speaker 2 he led the way, man. He was impressive, you know, in those two runs he had with Golden State.
He averaged 35 in that first series. Man, he was a mismatch problem.
He was a nightmare.

Speaker 2 He was a nightmare. Yeah.

Speaker 2 So that's the thing. Look, everybody criticized.

Speaker 2 People didn't criticize him because he was a free agent. They didn't criticize him for that.
It's like, bro, how you joined the team that you had down 3-1 and you go link up with them.

Speaker 2 You had them down 3-1.

Speaker 2 I believe, look, and people are like, but Golden State needed KD as much as KD needed them.

Speaker 2 KD realized KD, he, see, and now he's like, well, he could have went anywhere and won a championship. No, he couldn't.

Speaker 2 He needed to go there.

Speaker 2 Because he goes, they're not beating the Cavs. Braun is at his apex.

Speaker 2 Yeah. That Braun

Speaker 2 controlled the entire game. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Tyree

Speaker 2 giving you 26, 27.

Speaker 2 Kevin Love is going to give you the rebounds. Tristan Thompson gives you rebounds.
And you got JR. You got guys that can make timely threes.

Speaker 2 They needed each other, nobody needed anybody more than anybody else. Golden State needed KD,

Speaker 2 KD needed Golden State.

Speaker 2 That's why they got on a plane and went to the Hamptons. That's why Kevin Durant, Rich Climbing, told him where he was.
Yeah, bro, I'm up in the house. I'm in Sag Harbor.
Come on up here.

Speaker 2 Holler at your boy.

Speaker 2 See what y'all need to do. Look at that contingent: Bob Myers, Steve Kerr,

Speaker 2 Draymond, Steph, and Clay. Yep.

Speaker 2 A match made in heaven because now KD's playing with the greatest shooter ever. And, you know, Klay is just as good.
So, you know, that's a nightmare because KD is so great in isolation. He can shoot.

Speaker 2 He can play off those guys. And they create so much attention

Speaker 2 that the game was so stress-free for him. He could just free lads.
Yeah, I think I'm going to get y'all about 40 tonight. I'm going to get out about 35 tonight.
I'm just chilling.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 think about the attention that Steph draws, draws.

Speaker 2 Now, this was five, six years ago. And think about it, the attention.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you got Clay, who's one of the, arguably, one of the two or three best catch and shoot three-point shooters in the history of the game.

Speaker 2 So you got perpetual motion, which is Steph. You got a great spot-up shooter, which is Clay.
And you got a guy that's as efficient as they're ever in anybody in Kevin Durant shooting the ball.

Speaker 2 A three-level score, three-point, mid-range, can finish at the rim, 88%, 90%

Speaker 2 free throw shooter. Yeah.
Really? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Too easy. It's too easy.
And people are like, well, it ain't even fun no more. You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 You got those two guys together.

Speaker 2 But hey, and he got tired of hearing it. I mean, I know he's going to say that's not the case, but and I said this, Joe.

Speaker 2 I said that this was New Edition when Johnny Gill joined.

Speaker 2 Johnny, New Edition fans were never going to accept Johnny because he didn't grow up in Roxbury, Boston. Right, right.
He wasn't a part of the original group. He wasn't a candy rain.

Speaker 2 I mean, Candy Girl. He wasn't that.
That's not him. Candy Girl.

Speaker 2 That's not him. He wasn't.
He wasn't Ralph and Bobby and Ricky, Mike. No, that ain't him.
And Johnny could not say, and hey, don't get me wrong.

Speaker 2 All of them, because think about it, all of them went solo. Bobby did his thing.
Whoop. How did that Ralph trans man?

Speaker 2 Sensitivity.

Speaker 2 You had Bet and you had the other guys. Bell billed the vote.

Speaker 2 Johnny get whoop, whoop, whoop. Be Johnny.
Man, Johnny. Man, they fuck with Johnny, though.
They had better with Johnny.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 So he was never going to be accepted. It was always going to be Clay.
It's the same thing with LeBron. LeBron can win five titles.

Speaker 2 LeBron is never going to be bigger than Kobe. Never going to be bigger than Magic.
Never going to be bigger than Shaq. It's just not.

Speaker 2 And even though Shaq

Speaker 2 didn't originate there, but those other two,

Speaker 2 Magic and Kobe,

Speaker 2 I don't care who come. You're not going to be bigger than them.
Beloved.

Speaker 2 It is what it is, Ocho. Yeah, right.

Speaker 2 It is what it is.

Speaker 2 It's just like you in Cincinnati. Somebody else come in and they might put up great numbers.
Nah, but guess what? Ocho, we drafted Ocho. We drafted Chase.

Speaker 2 It is what it is. Yeah.

Speaker 2 But hopefully KD gets somewhere.

Speaker 2 Because he's still giving you 26 a night.

Speaker 2 So if you put him,

Speaker 2 well, he ain't got to do, you know, the dirty work, you know,

Speaker 2 no, that ain't him. Defending a tough guy, let him freelance, man.
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Joe, what the hell is going to do with Ice Trait? Cool, man.

Speaker 2 Hopefully they keep him

Speaker 2 uh he's he's too great of a piece man

Speaker 2 you know i was at the game the other night oh joe yeah

Speaker 2 we should have beat each y'all but whatever we should

Speaker 2 i just

Speaker 2 this is the perfect time for you and unk um i know we have a lot of he fans that are watching and and and you and unk said that the atlanta hawks were going to beat us so i mean you could take take it upon yourself, you know, to issue an apology, not just to me, but to the rest of the Heat Nation out there.

Speaker 2 Because you did say we was going to lose and it didn't happen. And did we make a bet? Did we bet?

Speaker 2 Nah, nah, we ain't, but you forgot.

Speaker 2 You thought we bet it? Yeah, I could have sworn we bet. I thought we bet something.
I'm not sure.

Speaker 2 Nah, I see how you owe 5,200. I'm like, I ain't going to get in that mess.

Speaker 2 I'm going to stay out your way. Okay.
Yeah, don't pay it. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 doing it. Don't pay it, yeah, I see what's going on, yeah.
But uh, this man got a Shakespearean theater play in my face and you're doing somebody pay him.

Speaker 2 Matter of fact, I just ain't get a chance to uh, I ain't show you my truck. I just got on

Speaker 2 what truck, I mean, I know we got it. Hey, um, I know anybody back there got a picture of the truck so we can see it.

Speaker 2 There you go, right there.

Speaker 2 You see it, you see what it says?

Speaker 2 That's yours, yeah. You see what it says in the window.

Speaker 2 What the other little clip? What other little. I'm going to tear your ass up.

Speaker 2 That's what's in the window. Nah.
You know, when you get to Charlotte, they get to see it right there.

Speaker 2 See what I say? Congratulations. What did it say? Congratulations, Chad Johnson.
That's me.

Speaker 2 That's me.

Speaker 2 You happy for me?

Speaker 2 Man, y'all see how this man is doing? Nah, but listen.

Speaker 2 This man just buys stuff.

Speaker 2 He said, 2025, he's living for himself.

Speaker 2 Yo,

Speaker 2 I ain't done nothing nice for myself in years, man. I ain't done.
And so, you know, this year, 2025, I really decided to treat myself. And I'm just,

Speaker 2 I feel good because most of the time,

Speaker 2 I'm really on the receiving end. I'm always the one giving.

Speaker 2 People take, people, well, give me my money, huh?

Speaker 2 What's next? What you get next? I know you finna get something out.

Speaker 2 Casket.

Speaker 2 What? Casket.

Speaker 2 That's what's next.

Speaker 2 You want that Marble joint?

Speaker 2 No, Joe. You're going to pay me my money, man.

Speaker 2 I promise you. I promise you.
All right, listen, I promise you. I got my Cybertruck.
I got my Lambo. I bought the new house.
I'm good. You know,

Speaker 2 let me finish the pool in the back. When I finish the pool,

Speaker 2 joe what kind of bush

Speaker 2 hey

Speaker 2 hey hey oh

Speaker 2 you gotta chill hey

Speaker 2 no but my kids like to swim i'm trying to teach i'm trying to teach my daughter to swim let me finish the pool give my daughter lessons i got you

Speaker 2 what about my kids your kids they like stuff too yeah they your kids grown though they good

Speaker 2 my daughter's only

Speaker 2 Oh, Lord, have mercy.

Speaker 2 Joe,

Speaker 2 I think,

Speaker 2 you good?

Speaker 2 Listen, Joe,

Speaker 2 I done told him many of times, download Apple Pay. It's on your phone.
Cash App, Venmo, PayPal, any of these apps to make the transaction easy. He's refusing to do that.

Speaker 2 He's refusing to do so. I don't understand.
Listen,

Speaker 2 he just got a dog, right?

Speaker 2 He sent the lady a wire in advance,

Speaker 2 so he just sent a wire which lets me know that you can do a transaction. So the same way you sent that wire, I could wire your 5200, but you don't want that.
He wants cash. I don't carry cash.

Speaker 2 Hey, look at my dog. What's up, Titus?

Speaker 2 How much do you weigh, man?

Speaker 2 173. God damn.

Speaker 2 Thanks. And he 173 for real?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Man, he

Speaker 2 oh, oh, Joe, first of all,

Speaker 2 Shelly sent Shelly sent to why. I don't have no why.
I don't know how to do that. I don't do that.

Speaker 2 All right, what's Shelly information? I sent it. I'll send it to Shelly.
No, this is a transaction between you and I.

Speaker 2 You see, you see, Joe? You see how you being, see how you're being difficult? You see what I mean?

Speaker 2 This is why we are where we are.

Speaker 2 The last time, let me tell you why I stopped sending wires.

Speaker 2 I bought some tires.

Speaker 2 And I don't know if I made a mistake or the bank made a mistake. Right.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 it was supposed to be 2,500 and 25,000 went out.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I don't know if I made the mistake or they made the mistake.

Speaker 2 You serious? Yes, they gave back.

Speaker 2 You got your money, right? Yeah, okay. But I say, I was done, I was done after that.

Speaker 2 I haven't signed another one since. Yeah, I ain't got no apps.
I ain't got nothing.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 okay, I got you. I got you.
I got you. Baltimore show.

Speaker 2 I want everybody in Baltimore to watch me. Man, that's two months away.

Speaker 2 You've been on, bro. You've been on.
Hold on. You've been on me since February, March, April, May.
So I got away five months.

Speaker 2 I got to pay child support.

Speaker 2 What did I got to do?

Speaker 2 How boy, I'm going to tell you, like,

Speaker 2 my girl asked her mom to babysit the kids one time.

Speaker 2 Talk to me.

Speaker 2 You know what she told her?

Speaker 2 Because we wanted to go out. She said, You F for that one.

Speaker 2 You watching.

Speaker 2 You F for those kids.

Speaker 2 I ain't feel to worry about you. Child support, baby.

Speaker 2 I'm just playing. I ain't no child support, but I'm going to give you your money, though.
I got you. You keep saying you're going to give me my money, but chat, he ain't giving my money.

Speaker 2 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. Don't forget now.
Lakers in five. I got you.

Speaker 2 I you.

Speaker 2 All right, guys. I don't know if you guys have seen this video.
There's a viral video that surfaced today, DeMar DeRosen at a sushi restaurant.

Speaker 2 DeMar was sitting at a table when a random person shoved the phone in his place with a flashlight on. The prankster uploaded the video and later showed himself in the ambulance.

Speaker 2 What?

Speaker 2 I don't know if you've seen it.

Speaker 2 DeMar DeRose, who was sitting at a table with his family, looked like with his family or some friends, the guy came up, put the phone in his place, Tell me, DeMar, they're trying to throw me out of the restaurant.

Speaker 2 DeMar, like, bro, don't walk up on me.

Speaker 2 And people, like, well, he was just, you know,

Speaker 2 I don't know that. Right.

Speaker 2 You've got the luxury of hindsight, but somebody just walking up on you and putting the phone in your face, bro. Stop playing.

Speaker 2 People, y'all play too much. I don't know why.
I've never seen grown people play

Speaker 2 so much with people that you don't know.

Speaker 2 At a mall, I'm watching these people in these what was it Costco or not Costco but like Lowe's or Home Depot and they throwing pillars on stuff and they do is man will y'all stop playing content

Speaker 2 when did grown people start playing so much Joe that's what Joe you'll meet you and all Joe probably close to the same age but I don't remember grown folks playing when I was coming up

Speaker 2 Hey, hey, these young cats out here, they creating content. Oh,

Speaker 2 they out here creating content and anything that's going to go viral. Somebody put them, uh-uh.

Speaker 2 Somebody put the uh somebody put it

Speaker 2 in the he was in the uh ambulance.

Speaker 2 That's what that's what he, yeah, he tried to get, but see, now see, and they're gonna, oh, man, no, bro, you come up in that man's face when he's with his family and you shove the phone in his face.

Speaker 2 Because don't say you didn't know who he was because you didn't do you did that because you knew who it was. Now, if you go to his page, it's like he's a comedian, like he's a prankster.

Speaker 2 He doing stuff like that. Okay, but with somebody, hey, somebody's going to get laid down and then they're going to like, well, he was just playing.

Speaker 2 I keep telling people, everybody don't play how you play. Right.
You know what he's trying to do, huh? You know, he's trying to get a quick buck.

Speaker 2 You know, he's trying to get a quick buck because DeMar didn't touch him. DeMar didn't touch him hard enough to do anything

Speaker 2 that bad where you got to be inside the ambulance. You know what? Hey, I felt threatened.

Speaker 2 I felt threatened.

Speaker 2 That's his defense, DeMar. I felt threatened.
Yeah. It should work.
It should work.

Speaker 2 Hey, stupid game. When you play a stupid game, you win stupid prizes.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 2 But y'all got to be fans.

Speaker 2 He's not a fan. He's not a fan.
So let me take that back. Fans, y'all got to understand.
At the end of the day, see,

Speaker 2 y'all quit to say money don't make you better.

Speaker 2 But y'all do things and then think money should.

Speaker 2 No, I'm a human being.

Speaker 2 You would get upset. Stop saying saying that.
If I made this, if I made that, no, you wouldn't. It's easy to say what you would do because you're not in that situation.

Speaker 2 Everybody deserves a level of respect. Stop running up on people doing this stuff.
I ain't talking about fans, y'all got to understand.

Speaker 2 They don't know you like that.

Speaker 2 Y'all grabbing people by the shoulder. Hey, hey, bro, stop that.
You know what, funny? And if athletes don't know you, at least approach them the right way in a respectful manner.

Speaker 2 Approach them as if they don't know you. You tried to walk up on somebody just because you recognize them.
They don't know you. Yeah, right.
Yeah, so it's a way to do things. It's a way to do things.

Speaker 2 You know,

Speaker 2 if it was me, if you didn't know me and I saw you, Uncle and I saw you out, you know, I understand it. Listen, Mr.

Speaker 2 Shaw, I would probably never see you again, you know, and I just want to take this opportunity to say I'm a fan of yours.

Speaker 2 If you'll take a picture, if you signed, if not, I understand because it's your personal time and I don't invade your space. But if

Speaker 2 you would do me the graces

Speaker 2 of just give me a give me a signature and give me a picture, and I get out of your way.

Speaker 2 If you say,

Speaker 2 I'm still gonna be a fan, disrespect.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Oh, Joe. I'm in the airport, me and Jordan walking.
Dude, dude, come, dude, come put his arm around me. Tell me about let's get a selfie.

Speaker 2 What you in and in with that?

Speaker 2 Did you take it?

Speaker 2 A little quick, little fella. Just on quick boat.
Just on quick boat.

Speaker 2 You boated?

Speaker 2 You got him up off for you? I'm like, bro, all right, come on now.

Speaker 2 Oh, oh, you got to take a picture with me. I said, no, I don't got to do anything.
I said, but if you ask nicely in a respectful manner, I'll take a picture with you. Stop this.
I got to.

Speaker 2 Oh, you, hey.

Speaker 2 And please, please, I'll take a picture.

Speaker 2 If I'm not in a hurry, I'm not running late. I'm going to take a picture.
But I'm not going to sit there while you call somebody and we get on the phone. Guess who? Look who it is.

Speaker 2 Look who it is that I got.

Speaker 2 That's the worst. That's the worst.
That's the worst.

Speaker 2 You already didn't want to stop, but now you finna sit here and make a whole phone call. And you want me to sit here and talk to somebody who I have no idea.
No, I don't even know you.

Speaker 2 I know them even less than I know you. At least you standing here.
You need to do it yourself.

Speaker 2 Yeah, my favorite is, can you make a video from a, can you make a video from a family member they a fan of yours

Speaker 2 it's just coincident so they so they knew like hey guess what i'm going to the airport i normally see ocho today so i'm going to have it when i see it i'm going to have it make a video telling you give you a shout out happy birthday

Speaker 2 i'm a i'm a little bit more lean you know joe because i'm i'm very sociable you know i go places I don't go out often, but when I go places, I'd be ready.

Speaker 2 Well, you come up to me, and I'm sure some people,

Speaker 2 it might be people in the chat that have seen me in public somewhere. Well, I sit there and hug you and act like I've known you 30 years.
Yeah, I hold a conversation.

Speaker 2 I hold a conversation. I'm a little different.
I know you don't play that. Unk don't play that.

Speaker 2 Ocho, I'll be sitting at the table

Speaker 2 about to eat. I fist bump you.
Dudes, hey, bro, I want to shake your hand. No, bro, I'm about to eat.

Speaker 2 I'm about to eat.

Speaker 2 I don't mind taking, like I said, if I'm not in a hurry, right?

Speaker 2 Man, yesterday I was at the wrong gate.

Speaker 2 I was at gate 20. My gate is at 135.

Speaker 2 I've been international. Right.

Speaker 2 I was like, I come asked the lady, can you get a card?

Speaker 2 Oh, Lord, have mercy. Ain't no card on your

Speaker 2 book it.

Speaker 2 I got to book it. Now, rest your soul, I'm sweating like Michael Jackson before the verdict is ready.
I'm sweating, you know what I'm saying? Corn off me.

Speaker 2 I got my bag on Joe. Man, you know, but my hips bad, my knee bad.

Speaker 2 I got to walk a mile.

Speaker 2 They tell me it's the final call.

Speaker 2 Uh, the lady, is that you, Mr. Is that you, Mr.
Shark? Yeah, that's me. You better hurry.
We're about to close the door. Yeah, but you would have been, but you would have been

Speaker 2 away from back down there. Hey, can we get a picture together? I said, bro, you think about the Mr.
Plank to take a picture with you?

Speaker 2 I said, you but hey,

Speaker 2 hey,

Speaker 2 I can only imagine. The Lord have mercy.
Listen, look, it's a once-in-a-lifetime thing. They probably ain't going to never run into you again.

Speaker 2 That shit,

Speaker 2 I got to get him. Joe, I had already missed one flight.

Speaker 2 I had already missed the flight. Okay, okay.
Dealing with the LA traffic. It's supposed to be on the 330.
I get to the airport at 3.20. Oh, man.

Speaker 2 So I've missed that flight.

Speaker 2 Okay. I'm sitting down there.
I'm like, you know, I've been to dinner club. You know, I'm like, you eat some chicken.
I'm eating some Adobe chicken. You know, they got some cornbread.
I eat up there.

Speaker 2 I look up like, damn, I better go, you know.

Speaker 2 So I hop by. I'm like, oh, I ain't nobody right around the corner.
You know, this ain't nothing me. Right.
Man, I get to gay 20. I gave the lady my phone up.

Speaker 2 She's like, sir, what flight are you trying to go? I said, I'm going to Vegas. She say, honey, this is going to Salt Lake City.
I'm like, oh, Lord, Salt Salt Lake City.

Speaker 2 I said, ma'am, if you don't mind me asking, well,

Speaker 2 what if like Las Vegas? She got a little thing. She's like, oh, it's at 135.
I say, how far is that? She says, son, it's in, it's in the international. I said, well, how far is that?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. Yeah.
It was stressful for you, wasn't it? I already know. Oh, man.
I already know. Mind you,

Speaker 2 did the interview had an interview yesterday with

Speaker 2 it. I can't tell you who it is great though.
We have a great time. She'll talk.
I will tell you that. She can talk.
So now I'm supposed to get to the airport at a certain time. Traffic.

Speaker 2 Now, I'm already late. We got nightcap.
Now, if I don't get this flight.

Speaker 2 I would have took the show. I would have took the show.
I got you. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Back to the hotel. I got to go.

Speaker 2 Jordan already, Jordan asked, he already,

Speaker 2 Shelly blowing my phone up. Jordan's on the flight.
He said he hadn't seen you. Well, I hadn't seen him either.

Speaker 2 Well, he should have called me. They came and got me.
Hey, hey.

Speaker 2 Hey, that's why if you ever fly private, you'll really, really appreciate it because you know what it's like going to the airport. You know how stressful it is.
Yes.

Speaker 2 I ain't got private money. I got public money.
That's why I fly public airlines. Right, right.

Speaker 2 Joe, you be flying private?

Speaker 2 Every blue moon, OJo. I got to have something real important to do.
Okay.

Speaker 2 What'd that run you? I don't mean to be in your pockets. I'm not trying to count your money.
I'm just asking what that run. It's all about how far you going.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it depends on where you're going. And what type of jet you getting on? What you on? Okay.
You on a citation? You a bombardier? You on a G6, G5, four?

Speaker 2 What you own? What's the lowest G it go to? One?

Speaker 2 I mean, you probably, I mean, it probably started about what? I'll probably say around five, five an hour and probably go up to 20 an hour. 20 who?

Speaker 2 20K.

Speaker 2 You get expensive, OJ.

Speaker 2 I'm good. I'll leave that to the CEOs, boy.

Speaker 2 You gotta tell me nothing.

Speaker 2 Like I say, hey,

Speaker 2 it's got to be very, very, very.

Speaker 2 Right. Very, very.

Speaker 2 And especially as a matter of fact,

Speaker 2 if you, whatever you spend it, right, the flat private and whatever it is that's important,

Speaker 2 if the reason for going where you got to go of importance is about making that money back, then I can see it.

Speaker 2 I could see it. I can understand.
But I hate, oh Joe, boy, I hate cutting that check because you got to wire that money and you wire 80,000.

Speaker 2 80,000? And even if you... If you make wire 80,000, even if you make 150, 200, you be thinking like, man, I could have flown Delta.
That'd have been 2,000.

Speaker 2 That's how I'll be right. I'll be thinking, oh, dude, hey, Shelly be Shelly asking, you want to fly? No, I do not want to fly private.

Speaker 2 I do not.

Speaker 2 Listen, I can get you, I can get you from the East Coast to West Coast or Spirit, you know, for $180. We talk about $2,000.
Come on, man.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's under East Coast and West Coast, $180.

Speaker 2 Yeah, Joe, come on over here to Spirit with me now. Exero, C13A.
They'll take care of you.

Speaker 2 I got 2 million miles on Delta. I'm good.
I like Delta. Okay.
I mean,

Speaker 2 come right up Delta. I got you.

Speaker 2 Them peaches. Hey, they nice because you know, Joey,

Speaker 2 hey, you get to leave when you want to leave. Hey, would you like food? They have whatever you want.
You want Popeyes, whatever the case you want. They have a nice prepared meal.
You want seafood.

Speaker 2 I can do everything you're naming right now. I can show up to the airport early.
with everything you're naming in hand and get on my spirit flight. Everything.
Hey,

Speaker 2 this. oh joke i i i ain't got it i swear i ain't got it like that i just i just can't see that money going like that yeah it's it's it's hard to see it it's hard to see it lead at the cali and uh

Speaker 2 you what what yeah and then you think about it you hey you be sick like oh damn think about what you just have done with it

Speaker 2 there you go there you go there you go there you go And so like, I was like, nah, I'm good. Hey,

Speaker 2 I just, hey, I have to take this old bad knee and walk through the airport, OJo. Pretty soon your boy has to be on that cart.

Speaker 2 So, hey, Chad, when y'all see your boy on the cart, don't talk about, hey, man, I saw Uncle. I saw Unc on the cart.
You damn sure did. That was me.

Speaker 2 Because I'm about to be sitting my ass up on the cart. Well, you know what's funny? You got a bad knee, you got bad hips.

Speaker 2 You can get the wheelchair, and you ain't got to stand in line.

Speaker 2 No, I ain't going to do the wheelchair now.

Speaker 2 Man,

Speaker 2 I'll tell y'all a story, man. I went to pick up my mom from the airport.
My mom didn't tell me she had broke a foot. So I'm driving around the airport.

Speaker 2 I say, mama, where are you? She's talking about right here. I done drove around the airport about five times.
My mama sitting in her ass in a wheelchair. I said, why'd you tell me you broke?

Speaker 2 I said, how was I supposed to know? I wasn't looking for somebody in the wheelchair, mama.

Speaker 2 My mama sitting in the wheelchair. I done drove around the airport about five times.
And Joe, you know how it is driving around Atlanta airport. That thing is crazy.
Oh, yeah,

Speaker 2 man.

Speaker 2 This is that was the last. Actually, that was the last time I picked up somebody from the airport.
I'm gonna send a car for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah, it's rough around here, boy, going to the airport. This is the busiest airport in probably the country.
Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 2 yeah. I mean, first of all, I'm mad all first of all, I got to go pick somebody up at the airport.

Speaker 2 What I'm really mad about is the hour and a half traffic that I had to get through just to get my ass to the airport, and the hour and a half back to get from the airport.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 you come see me,

Speaker 2 I'll see you when you get to your destination.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's what I see. I'm not coming to pick you up.
I'm just gonna tell you now.

Speaker 2 My kids, my kids know, hey, when they come see me in LA, car service pick them up. When they come see me,

Speaker 2 I got you. That ain't because

Speaker 2 I'm moody, I'm mirrorable.

Speaker 2 No, that trip.

Speaker 2 And then Ash walked like she in a parade.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Hey. And don't worry, we do what we do, Jordan.
We leave Ash, don't you?

Speaker 2 But this joker right here, Jordan, oh, Joe, Joe, if you ever fly with Jordan,

Speaker 2 just go ahead and tell him you're going to meet him at the hotel.

Speaker 2 This joke will help everybody get their bag off. I look back there, he's taking bags like this.
This is your bag, ma'am.

Speaker 2 I'm like, Jordan,

Speaker 2 Break your zoom.

Speaker 2 That ain't your job.

Speaker 2 Hey, I said, hey,

Speaker 2 okay.

Speaker 2 Don't be at that trunk. Don't be in the trunk when I get here.

Speaker 2 You know, you left. You got to catch a cab, huh?

Speaker 2 Uber.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I'll reimburse it.

Speaker 2 You want to work for the airline and take everybody's baggage out?

Speaker 2 I got you. Don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 This is a subject, Ocho, that's near and dear to your heart. To mine? Tracy Ellis Ross says she only dates younger men because of the toxic

Speaker 2 masculinity in men her age. A lot of men my age are steeped in toss.
toxic masculinity and have been raised in a culture where there is a particular way that relationships look.

Speaker 2 Anything that started to smell of that with me, I did enough or where I was controlled and felt like I was a possession or a prize. I just have no interest in it, and I will not do it again.

Speaker 2 So, she doesn't want to feel like a possession or a prize, but you're going to date younger men. That's a

Speaker 2 possession or a prize. Prize.
I mean, it would be the same thing. But

Speaker 2 I don't understand.

Speaker 2 What I will say is, as an older woman like Miss Ross, I think she also has more control dealing with

Speaker 2 the younger fellas anyway. Yeah.
She has more control. But what, hold on.
But what they say about when when when when when unk say he want to date younger men they kill me

Speaker 2 what they said what the women what

Speaker 2 yeah what i'll say when it dates younger women what i said

Speaker 2 when i want to date

Speaker 2 when i want to date

Speaker 2 when i want to date younger women what they say oh joe right oh i'm a creep oh i'm i'm uh

Speaker 2 what what is what they call that what they call that when when a when a when a man like I'm grooming, I'm grooming. That's what the term they use when they grooming.

Speaker 2 When she talks about dating younger men, Joe, what'd they say? Go ahead, girl. That's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, it's different.

Speaker 2 Why is it different?

Speaker 2 I don't know.

Speaker 2 They see it different. They view it differently.

Speaker 2 I don't know. You know,

Speaker 2 it's called girl math. And girl math is not for us as men to understand.
But listen, I think it happens all the time.

Speaker 2 Older men love dating younger women. Older women love dating younger men.

Speaker 2 It's been like that for a very long time. Listen, to each their own, I don't, I think when it comes to, to women dating younger men, they're able to control them a little, a little bit more.

Speaker 2 They're able to get them to do what they want to do, as opposed to dating men their age, where there's not much they can get away with, because men their age really don't play the games that they want to play.

Speaker 2 They're able to manipulate the younger men. all the time.
But here's the thing, though, Joe, what people don't understand. She's Tracy Ellis Ross.

Speaker 2 And she's 52. She's a celebrity.
She's an entertainer. She has money.

Speaker 2 Now, all y'all that's out there in y'all 50s and 60s or 40s and think y'all gonna get you a 20 year old, 25, 30 year old, come on now.

Speaker 2 You saying she got the means to do that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, she can play. Listen, when you got money like that, she can play the game the way she want to.
Right. But all my thing, my thing is, if I said,

Speaker 2 Ocho, we've had this conversation, Joe, you've never been a part of this, but Ocho and I, we've had this conversation. I say, you know, hey, 30-year-old, 35,

Speaker 2 maybe up to 40. Man, you need to get you somebody your age.

Speaker 2 Why?

Speaker 2 You don't want nothing to hold but a bankroll.

Speaker 2 Hey, so what we're gonna do, get on that, get on that little bus together so they can take us to the doctor's appointment together.

Speaker 2 Nah, I want somebody to drive me to my appointment, let me get out in the front, go park the car, and come in there and join me.

Speaker 2 That's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 2 Hey, hey, you say woman your age, she can't keep up, can't she?

Speaker 2 Huh? A woman your age can't keep up with you. She keep up.
I ain't got

Speaker 2 two of the possible, Joe. I got a spade, I got spade wood, two of the possible,

Speaker 2 and they might be cutting it. I got a bunch, A, I got the A's, but I got a bunch of diamonds in my hand, so they might be cutting out the rip.
I'm telling you, that hey, that's all I got.

Speaker 2 That's all I got for you.

Speaker 2 All that, no, no, no. I ain't never been no guy.
Hey, I ain't been a lot to her. Oh, girl, I'm gonna kick off.
I'm gonna tear you up all night long. No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna be sleeping all night long.

Speaker 2 Hey, but you know, you know what? But, but, Miss Ross can, Miss Ross can get away with that. Obviously, other women can get it, get away with it as well.

Speaker 2 But Miss Ross is in a position, in a position of power. Not many women are in a position like she is where she can correct who she wants to deal with, regardless.

Speaker 2 I ain't got no problem with it, though. Oh, yeah, I'm just, you and I, we just having a conversation.

Speaker 2 i ain't got no problem with it i don't got no problem with whoever you date i don't care how old they are if they're legal if they 19 and you 40 that is a legal consenting age i ain't got nothing to do with that i don't care what people do in their homes

Speaker 2 but i'm just saying the hypocrisy

Speaker 2 of

Speaker 2 older women dating younger men versus older men dating younger women.

Speaker 2 And the first thing when it comes to men dating younger women, the first thing you're going to say, y'all ain't got nothing in common.

Speaker 2 Y'all ain't ain't got nothing in common. What do y'all have in common? For you talking about what they got in common?

Speaker 2 I don't know. I don't know.
That's a good thing.

Speaker 2 That's a good question. But again, listen, when you're in a position like Miss Ross, you can do that.
You get to pick and choose who you want. You don't have to deal with it.

Speaker 2 Most of the time, women are in situations where they actually need a man.

Speaker 2 They need a man. She's in the position, well, I don't need you.
I actually want you.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Everybody eating.

Speaker 2 I think after you get to a certain age, it's like, okay,

Speaker 2 what am I willing to deal with? Like she said, she don't want to deal with a man that has a certain,

Speaker 2 you know, hey, if you 55, 50, 55, 60, you grew up in an era. It was a certain way, Joe.
You know, your mom and dad things worked a certain way. Grandpa, grandma, it worked a certain way.

Speaker 2 Now it's gotten a little, and so now these men, now, women, now they're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, no, ain't no staying at home cooking. Ain't no stay.

Speaker 2 Hey, if I don't go out, you can't go out. Women say,

Speaker 2 you want to go? Oh, I'm going.

Speaker 2 I don't remember a time where

Speaker 2 my grandmother, when my grandfather didn't go, my grandmother wasn't going. Yeah, my grandmother wasn't going, my grandfather wasn't going.
Be it church, fishing, the grocery store, it didn't matter.

Speaker 2 Now, women like,

Speaker 2 oh, I go with my girls.

Speaker 2 I don't care. You look, look, I don't want to go.
I don't care. I ain't got no problem with that.

Speaker 2 I have never been one of those guys when you can't go out or you can't wear that out.

Speaker 2 If you want that when I met you, keep it going. Right.
Right.

Speaker 2 That's how you got to be, Ocho. Oh, oh, no, Ocho, you don't like that, huh?

Speaker 2 If you meet, if let's just say for the sake of argument, you meet somebody and she wears something, she wears something.

Speaker 2 revealing. Right.

Speaker 2 She get with you. You're going to make her stop wearing it? Or are you going to like, okay, baby, hey, I met you when you was wearing this? Keep it going.
No, I'm not like that.

Speaker 2 You know, I don't run no prison. I don't run no prison.
I'm not a warden.

Speaker 2 And obviously, if you're talking to somebody and she's wearing something revealing, I doubt I would even take someone like that serious.

Speaker 2 So I really wouldn't be in that situation to begin with. I would.

Speaker 2 So you see somebody at the beach and she got that, she got that, that one piece, or she got that two-piece and that fake catacorn in a book. Right.

Speaker 2 You want to tell me you ain't going to take her serious? Yeah, for fun.

Speaker 2 that's what i'm looking for that's what i'm looking for come on over what you want okay i understand what you mean yeah for fun for fun i mean especially especially well damn what you want a girl with a with a with an army skirt on no no but but for fun there's there's a certain way there's a there's a certain way to dress without having to reveal every goddamn thing give me with leave something for the imagination if you got it all hanged out already i mean okay that that lets me know okay that right there that's for fun that's not to take serious

Speaker 2 it's simple

Speaker 2 Really? Oh, Uncle, you know that. Don't do that.
You've been in the game too long. You know that.

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Speaker 2 You know that. Come on.
I mean,

Speaker 2 I just, I just like looking at it. Whatever, whatever they're advertising,

Speaker 2 once you get that,

Speaker 2 Ah, what's left after that?

Speaker 2 There's a reason they're advertising it. It's the get attention

Speaker 2 outside i'll give it to you what's left i'm i'm just asking outside of that what's left

Speaker 2 all right once you

Speaker 2 i'm just asking joe am i am i tripping or am i wrong

Speaker 2 no man you ain't tripping okay

Speaker 2 i don't know i've just been in the game for seven years i guess i'm out there i'm out here on the island by myself i just i just like i mean i just like looking i just you know i can't buy the car i just like look sometimes i go to the dealership and just look at them

Speaker 2 I like looking too. I like looking.
We all like.

Speaker 2 Is that a form of cheating? If you looking, they say people get three to five for staring.

Speaker 2 Is that a form of cheating? No, for real. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
But here's the thing, though. Here's the thing.

Speaker 2 Now you with your lady, nice girl walk by. Do you acknowledge that she's nice or you pretend like you didn't see it? The funny thing, if I'm with my girl, right?

Speaker 2 She gonna she gonna see it before I do and tap me.

Speaker 2 She gonna say something, yeah, she gonna say something, man. Look at that.
What? Oh, she, but she got some ass, don't she? Yes, she do.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 you gotta pretend. Whoa, what's that? I don't beat her.
I saw her. I saw her way before you did.
I saw 10 minutes earlier. I didn't say nothing.
Yeah, I saw her. I saw exactly.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 2 Because it's nice and

Speaker 2 tingling.

Speaker 2 But I pretend like, oh shit. Oh, yeah, she okay.

Speaker 2 Good lord of mercy.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 hey.

Speaker 2 One thing, hey, this is oh, my goodness, boy.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you just got to pretend like you don't see it.

Speaker 2 Just oh, you like that? Oh, you like that, huh? No,

Speaker 2 I don't like that. I like the way, hey, I like the way your moody drag the ground.

Speaker 2 That's what I like.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? I am. I don't like that workie sitting up on her shoulders.
I'm with you, baby.

Speaker 2 You gotta make her feel. You got a

Speaker 2 OJ, you gotta be

Speaker 2 careful the way you answer them. Hype man.
You gotta be a hype man. You're the girl, Joe.
You know this. You gotta be a hype man.
Damn, baby, that look good. Yeah.
Oh, oh, okay.

Speaker 2 Now, now you doing it, baby. Oh, hey, that's what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 I didn't turn into a hype man, Ocho. I didn't know.
I mean, I grew up. We didn't have to hype it.
You know, you're like, yeah, baby, you look good today. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Every day. Yeah, all day.
Yeah. Reassurance, reassurance is very important in today's today's era,

Speaker 2 yeah, very important,

Speaker 2 yeah.

Speaker 2 I ain't got no problem with it.

Speaker 2 I mean, when your boy, when your boy step out there, he got a little something nice, go ahead and tell him, you know, hey, you look nice, baby, okay, okay, you know, I like a little affirmation too.

Speaker 2 I like to be told that, hey, okay, you put that on, I like that, daddy,

Speaker 2 yeah,

Speaker 2 I like it, I like it.

Speaker 2 I like get 520. I can get me a nice little outfit to go to Green Bay, do this draft.
I get that 5200 right before you.

Speaker 2 Matter of fact,

Speaker 2 I'm not even wearing an outfit to the draft at Green Bay, but I'm wearing a Sterling Sharp jersey.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I got an authentic Sterling Sharp jersey. It's going to be 44 degrees, OJo.

Speaker 2 I'm going to put on what's wait, OB outside? No, we're in the atrium. Yeah, so yeah, I'm good.
I'm good. I'm good.
You know, I like the cold now. I ain't got no problem with that.

Speaker 2 Okay. I got my job.

Speaker 2 Huh? Florida boy like the cold? Oh, man. Yeah, I don't know what he's talking about.
Being in Cincinnati,

Speaker 2 coming from Miami, where it's always hot, we get a cold front every blue moon.

Speaker 2 For some reason, I grew an appreciation for the cold. And I couldn't wait till we get to November, December.
And we get, what, Joe?

Speaker 2 We get about 40 to 30 degrees. Man, I'm out there practicing with no sleeves on, running around, having a ball.
Everybody else standing by the heater.

Speaker 2 I'm out there doing,

Speaker 2 I don't, I don't like the cold. Love the cold.
What y'all be off of on them on them cold games, man? What you be off of? You got to be off on something, red bull or something. No, no, no, no.

Speaker 2 I just, I put the Vaseline on my sleeves, and I just go. I'm good.
What the Vaseline do?

Speaker 2 Keep the heating in. Yeah, keep the heating a little bit.
And, you know, the benches are already heated. Then, you know, I got my...

Speaker 2 I got my heat. What's it called? The heat warmers on?

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, you got

Speaker 2 those packets. Yeah, I got the packs.
I got the, the warm packs, and got the warmers.

Speaker 2 Yeah, the hand warmers.

Speaker 2 And the TV, anytime at the TV timeout, I always run. I always run to the heater, warm up a little bit, and I watch the man with the orange gloves.
When I see him do like that, I just run back.

Speaker 2 I run back out to the field. No, I ain't like that.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 I don't like the cold.

Speaker 2 I do.

Speaker 2 And it'd be cold out there, George. I mean, hey, I was in two places I played get cold, Denver and Baltimore.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 And Denver, it get really, really, really, I'm talking about 14 and 20 at practice.

Speaker 2 I went out there with no sleeves. Sunday, I'm going to be out there in no sleeves.
During the week,

Speaker 2 it'd be warm for sure. And you know, them offensive linemen, they got no sleeves and they in shorts.

Speaker 2 Wish y'all the best. All right, we're going to get get y'all here on this one.
It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q

Speaker 2 and A.

Speaker 2 Kemper Norwood Jr.

Speaker 2 said, I'm rolling with the Lakers until the wheels fall off.

Speaker 2 Lakers in five.

Speaker 2 Well, we all, hey, one of them done came off, Kemper. Let's just hope the other one.
The other one don't come off. The dad smiles said, Uh, I told you the wolves are not long and big

Speaker 2 and their bench is way better. And I knew if Nas Reed Reed is the key to the series, I got this series going six or seven, but game two is important for the Lakers.
Absolute lives.

Speaker 2 It's an absolute must. It's an absolute must.
Absolute.

Speaker 2 Naz Reed did what he was supposed to do. He won sixth man of the year last year for this very reason for the performance that he gave the Wolves tonight.

Speaker 2 Oreo Hulam said, J.J. Reddick, J.J.
Fish, J.J. from Good Times, and Man at Five.
All right, Oreo, all y'all bragging, see? Okay, okay, dark.

Speaker 2 What's up, Ugginojo? If the Timberwoods take game two, will it be time for the Lakers to panic?

Speaker 2 Of course.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Yeah, because

Speaker 2 if Minnesota goes up 2-0,

Speaker 2 they looking to bring that broom out. They ain't looking to come back.

Speaker 2 Exactly.

Speaker 2 Red Hood said, Lakers at five, huh? Be careful what you might say. Might need a broom.
I'm smelling sweet.

Speaker 2 Red, it ain't going to happen.

Speaker 2 rj copan salt shakers shaken bakers lbj is a goat faker lakers lose at five

Speaker 2 rj okay so y'all doing all that i i knew this was gonna happen i knew it is gonna happen at some point laker lose y'all gonna be talking to crazy but okay

Speaker 2 make sure y'all show up monday night now j dub for packery oh why oh you're always trying to bet your guests know he ain't paid you or me when you run when you run up and get uh get your five bands snatch my snatch that jersey for yeah ocho you know hey j dub you didn't get that man in his jersey ocho who

Speaker 2 j-dub

Speaker 2 oh they uh

Speaker 2 i thought you supposed to say i thought you supposed to send ask the information so i can send the jersey

Speaker 2 she done sent it to j dub we done sent we relayed that information to the proper channels ocho has it wait hold on you ain't finna put that on us okay okay okay okay.

Speaker 2 Matter of fact, we might have to do it because the proper channels ain't really the proper channels no more.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 Dr. Frankie L.
Bellamy said, hey, fab, overall, which team made the biggest statement tonight? And who should be worried most after game one? Lakers.

Speaker 2 They're the only team that lost on their home court.

Speaker 2 Series doesn't start till the world team wins. And

Speaker 2 the T-Wolves got off to a great start. They've already won.
So the biggest, the biggest statement or the greatest impression made was made by the T-Wolves in the final game tonight. Wasn't even close.

Speaker 2 Big eye, what's up, hubby Joe? What do you do with the Lakers? What do the Lakers got to do to win game two to avoid a 2-0? Play with some damn intensity.

Speaker 2 True. Yeah.
Probably more of a sense of urgency.

Speaker 2 Yeah, man, they energy just wasn't there. Like I said, I just felt the Timberwolves were very desperate.
They played desperate, and they played like a team who came in there to get a win.

Speaker 2 They came with a purpose. Absolutely.
Absolutely. They didn't back down that one bit.

Speaker 2 They attacked the Lakers all night long, man.

Speaker 2 Like I said, if McDaniels and Reed gonna play like that, Lakers ain't got a chance in beating the Wolves.

Speaker 2 10-17 Boogie. Luca, Paducah, Bazooka.

Speaker 2 Wolves in five.

Speaker 2 Duane Hines, procrastination, condensation, relaxation. Lakers about to be on vacation.
Okay, Dewan. Y'all talking, man.
Y'all talking real reckless. Y'all talking real reckless.

Speaker 2 Kingsaw 123. Not my best day as a sports fan.
CM Punk lost. The Lakers lost.
Damn. CM Punk lost?

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 2 I ain't happy about that.

Speaker 2 I'm more disappointed the Lakers lost than CM. I'm sorry, guys.
There's zero chance OKC will consider taking KD back. The ownership despises him.
I don't know about that.

Speaker 2 I mean, I guess I'm assuming that you live in OKC and you probably heard something, but I don't know. I'm not so sure Kevin Durant.
That's just us talking.

Speaker 2 There's nothing that's ever been said. I don't know.
Kevin Durant has never mentioned anything. I know he enjoyed his time while he was there,

Speaker 2 but he probably hadn't been back since he left. So

Speaker 2 probably not a great chance of him going back. Kevin

Speaker 2 Swiebelhoffer.

Speaker 2 Could you see Ant-Man teaming up with Wemby late in their career? And

Speaker 2 would D. Rose be a top three three all-time point guard if he didn't get injured?

Speaker 2 Oh man,

Speaker 2 that's a good one. What you think?

Speaker 2 This is your level of expertise, Joe. Yeah, D.
Rose,

Speaker 2 man, I mean, he's the youngest MVP, right? Yes.

Speaker 2 He was the youngest MVP ever.

Speaker 2 Like I said, I've got a chance to play against him in playoff series.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 he was special, man. He was special.
Probably the most athletic guard

Speaker 2 that we. He was an athletic point guard.
Because now you see Russ. You see Russ.
You see Ja. All these athletic point guards.
He was the first.

Speaker 2 Man.

Speaker 2 Hey, that was a tough matchup.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he definitely, I think he definitely would have been, you know, at least top five, you know, point guards ever to play. He just played with so much torque that

Speaker 2 it seemed as though his body just kind of gave out, man. But he was special, bro.
He was special.

Speaker 2 Gracie Q, Titus is about to go collect his dad's money. He's bigger than Ocho, so it'll be easy.
Yeah, I'm going to send Titus down there with you to get my money, Ocho.

Speaker 2 I told you,

Speaker 2 I'm going to pay you after I finish the pool, huh?

Speaker 2 But old folk don't never have no patience. Patience is a virtue.
It's in the Bible.

Speaker 2 I will let you finish doing what you need to do with my money. And then once you...

Speaker 2 No, but

Speaker 2 what I'm doing, what I'm spending, ain't got nothing to do with your money. Your 5,200 is off to the side.
But go ahead and send it to me.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna send it.

Speaker 2 I figure out a way. What about bringing to me Green Bay? How about Green Bay? You see me in five days.
Okay, I'm gonna bring it to Green Bay.

Speaker 2 What you say, Joe? You want it in cash, cash, money. See,

Speaker 2 I don't carry cash. That make me feel like

Speaker 2 when I have cash like that, it makes me feel irresponsible.

Speaker 2 Don't worry about it. You should feel irresponsible that you hadn't paid me.

Speaker 2 No, because as long as I owe you, it'll never go broke. I'm broke right now.
I need that.

Speaker 2 Nelson Black says my cousin is getting married July 12th, and I'm on the wedding. And your show

Speaker 2 in Charlotte, July 12th. And I got the meet and greet tickets.
So don't judge me if you're boy late and come in with a tux. Nelson, come here.
We like the church. Come as you are.

Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? We don't judge.

Speaker 2 We don't judge. Now, my grandma didn't take that seriously because you was not going up in that church looking at any kind of house.

Speaker 2 All that said, but God said, come as you are. Mary Porter didn't say that.
Oh, sorry.

Speaker 2 Not having that.

Speaker 2 Hey, yeah,

Speaker 2 Nelson, the Charlotte meet and greet tickets are sold out. So thank you.
We appreciate that.

Speaker 2 But come on in there. Come on in that thing.

Speaker 2 Franklin status for the chemistry y'all have as a genius. My wife, Christine Franklin, nursing student, is turning 41 on the 25th.
My son, Christian Franklin, student athletes, turning 17, 29th.

Speaker 2 A shout out would be appreciated. Christine Franklin,

Speaker 2 Kristen Franklin,

Speaker 2 Dan want y'all to know he's very proud proud of you guys and all of your accomplishments. Wifey, a nursing student.
Congratulations.

Speaker 2 Son, I know you're going to do big things, so I ain't even worried about you. But your dad just wanted to know, wife, he wanted you to know that he's proud of you guys.

Speaker 2 Congratulations, continued success.

Speaker 2 That

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Speaker 2 We off tomorrow. We do it tomorrow.
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