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Speaker 13 Quarterback competition for Cleveland Browns will soon come to an end.

Speaker 13 Coach Kevin Stefanski said today that the team will name a starter this week. According to the Cleveland.com, the decision could come as soon as Monday.
Stefanski said we will name a starter.

Speaker 13 It's going to come this week.

Speaker 13 We still anticipate all of our players, whether you're a starter or or not, to prepare like you, the starter, knowing all of our players in that room, that's exactly what they'll do.

Speaker 20 Hey,

Speaker 20 we don't care about who's going to be the starter. We know who the starter is going to be.
We know who's starting. Joe Flacco, the starting, the starter.

Speaker 20 He's not there for one year to be sitting on the bench and get beat out by a rookie.

Speaker 13 That's not happening.

Speaker 13 Either he's starting or you're going to release him.

Speaker 20 One or the other.

Speaker 20 Listen, the starter is Joe Flacco. The more important part, who's the number two? Who showed you enough in the preseason to be number two?

Speaker 20 And then the next question, are you keeping four goddamn quarterbacks? Probably not. Again, I love all of them.
I love what Shador showed.

Speaker 20 I love what Dylan Gabriel showed, despite the mistakes, despite the pick six and the fumble. So who's the odd man out?

Speaker 20 Because the odd man out is the person that we've already seen on two other teams. We saw your small sample side with the Steelers.

Speaker 20 Okay?

Speaker 20 And we saw you you were back

Speaker 20 with the Eagles. So obviously, you're not the answer.
No disrespect. No disrespect.
You'll find a home regardless.

Speaker 13 But come on, Al.

Speaker 20 I'm telling you, I don't know Kevin Stefansky personally. I could pick up the phone and call him, but I know that's how it's going to play out.
It is. And I know Mr.
Haslam.

Speaker 20 Listen, I know you didn't want him. I know what you'll pick.
But Andrew Berry, I'm telling you,

Speaker 20 when this is over,

Speaker 20 when this is over and the dust settles, you're you're going to look like a genius. I'm telling you, you got your quarterback of the future.

Speaker 20 Well.

Speaker 13 Well, I hope so. Because

Speaker 13 some of the coaches he's hired, he didn't look like no genius. But if he gets this quarterback situation right, all will be forgiven.

Speaker 20 That's all it takes. And that's for the other 32 teams.
Well, excuse me.

Speaker 13 If not 32 teams out in dire need of a quarterback, but I'm just saying, you see what i mean it's i don't know if i've ever seen a situation like quite like what's going on in cleveland because the guy that you brought the two guys the two veteran guys that you brought in have yet to play now maybe it was a situation and and i i think this i i think because joe flacco didn't play maybe they're they're like okay look we already know what you can do we don't need to see you in the preseason no no

Speaker 13 shelf you you know what i'm saying no joe we're gonna shelf you the other the other three

Speaker 13 they were anticipating Kenny Pickett being able to play, so we can get a better, we can get a look at him. But since he's been unable to play, basically, it's been uh Gabriel and Shadur.

Speaker 13 So I don't know how you can name anybody else other than the starter, I mean, other than Flacco. How you, how you name a guy that hadn't taken a snap since what, August 3rd, August 4th,

Speaker 13 excuse me, and name him the starter.

Speaker 20 Damn.

Speaker 13 Well, hey,

Speaker 13 Stranger things have happened, but

Speaker 13 I don't know. Hold on.

Speaker 20 Since we're on the top of the quarterbacks, we talk about the Cleveland Browns and what they're going to do and who's going to be at the hand week one.

Speaker 20 Obviously, you're going to know it's going to be Joe Flacco. Well, hell, what the Rams are going to do? They only got two weeks, and goddamn

Speaker 20 Stafford ain't took a snap.

Speaker 13 Stetson Bennett looked good, though. They like Stetson Bennett.

Speaker 13 They do.

Speaker 13 They do. They do.
They like Stetson Bennett.

Speaker 13 And

Speaker 13 all he did was just go to Georgia as a walk-on, back up, and just become

Speaker 13 the greatest Georgia quarterback.

Speaker 13 When it comes to Georgia players right now,

Speaker 13 it's Herschel Walker and Stessen Bennett. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 20 Of all the great players that have come out of Georgia, offensively,

Speaker 13 it's Herschel Walker.

Speaker 13 Because, you see, they love, first of all, Big Dog was a phenomenal player. Top Dog was a big, but he won the national championship as a freshman.
Stetson Bennett went back-to-back as a walk-on.

Speaker 13 Do you? Everybody loves an underdog, Ocho. You say your favorite sports movie is Rudy.
Now, why do you like Rudy so much? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 13 He's Rudy.

Speaker 20 That was dope. Matter of fact, hey, you know what, huh? I was Rudy today.

Speaker 13 Nah, you were Rudy Pooh.

Speaker 13 I was Rudy today.

Speaker 13 Man,

Speaker 13 but they like Stetson Bennett.

Speaker 13 The Rams like Stetson Bennett.

Speaker 13 I would be concerned that back, you know, Bax ain't, I don't know if you ever had anything with your back, but Bax ain't nothing to play with.

Speaker 20 And

Speaker 20 it got to be serious too, huh?

Speaker 20 Not that.

Speaker 13 Hold on. Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 20 Did he, at any point in training camp, has Stafford taken a snap? Did he practice at all?

Speaker 13 I think he, like, early, but then he just woke up and something was wrong with his okay okay

Speaker 13 but he ain't probably i mean it's been about two three weeks i mean they only been they've been only been in camp two

Speaker 20 yeah okay okay okay okay he did he did otas and all that though he did ota yeah yeah yeah yeah okay so this must

Speaker 20 look

Speaker 13 we know staffer can flat out he can throw the football and I think he gives them the best chance.

Speaker 13 But I think Sean McVay,

Speaker 13 they're high on Stephen Bennett.

Speaker 13 He's not the biggest, doesn't have the biggest arm. He's athletic.

Speaker 13 He can make plays.

Speaker 13 And, you know,

Speaker 13 you probably have to coach him up kind of like you did golf.

Speaker 13 But.

Speaker 20 The funny thing about it is for him, again, when you have a quarterback like that, that's a rookie. Maybe he has to start week one, you know, but you feel a little better as a quarterback.

Speaker 13 Second year got

Speaker 13 there.

Speaker 20 You feel a little better about if Matt Stafford can't go because Stephanie Benny. Pete's been in your system.
You got Kyron Williams. You got Pooh Nakura.

Speaker 20 Yep. You got

Speaker 13 Devontae.

Speaker 20 You got my young bull from Miami.

Speaker 20 They're going to be all right.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 20 They're going to be all right. Goddamn 2-2 Atwell, baby.

Speaker 13 Yeah, but hey, look,

Speaker 13 we're going to be, we'll have a lot to talk about tomorrow because once they named a starter, I'm trying to see the depth chart. Damn the starter.

Speaker 13 I think we'll both agree neither one of the rookies will be named starter. So now I'm just looking for the depth chart.
I'm going to see, okay, well, who lines up at 2-3-4?

Speaker 20 Well, listen, Noah Stefanski and Stefanski having the answer to the boss man whose name is on the check.

Speaker 20 I can tell you how that's going to look. Flacco, Gabriel, Sanders.

Speaker 13 Well, if that's the case, you might as well go ahead and release Kenny Pickett to give him a chance to go pick up somewhere else. Yeah.

Speaker 20 Oh, he's going to get his job regardless. He's going to get his job regardless.

Speaker 13 We asked our IG chat this morning if they felt Dylan Gabriel comments were a shot at Shadur. 85%

Speaker 13 felt yes. 85, 15, 11, over 11,000 people responding, Ocho, felt that he took a shot at Shadur.

Speaker 20 Hey,

Speaker 20 I listened to the

Speaker 20 to the question

Speaker 20 for better context on what he was saying and i i i i i kind of i kind of i'm on the other side of the fence

Speaker 20 if you if you if you listen to the question that was asked and the way he answered it

Speaker 20 yeah i i don't i'm trying to understand maybe you can help me understand how you guys still feel the shot was at your door when it was a specific question

Speaker 13 So what did it ask him?

Speaker 20 I don't remember exactly off the top of the head. But I'm just saying, if you listen to the question,

Speaker 20 and maybe ask and show it to you real quick, show the question that was asked to get a better understanding of the context on what he answered.

Speaker 20 Hey, chat.

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Speaker 13 Ocho.

Speaker 13 They ask him his comfortability in front of a camera.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 13 Some guys are entertainers. They're real comfortable in front of a camera.
That's what I would deduce.

Speaker 13 If I ask you, Ocho,

Speaker 13 why are you so comfortable in front of an uh in front of a camera stay right there stay right there i'm an entertainer no act well see when we when you talk about me i'm a theater and drama major that's why i'm so good in front of camera but okay you're an entertainer

Speaker 20 yeah

Speaker 13 so so ain't nobody ain't nobody ask you that so no so if if they're talking about if he says somebody's an entertainer why we should do so in other words should do is ain't comfortable in front of the camera why ocho

Speaker 20 well i mean he's had one in front of him all his life.

Speaker 13 They didn't ask him anything. All they asked him, why are you so comfortable? I'm in comfortable.
Look, I've been a quarterback for an extended period of time.

Speaker 13 This is what I've been playing the quarterback position. I understand what comes along with the quarterback position.
I'm the CEO of the corporation.

Speaker 13 Ain't nobody asked you.

Speaker 13 Ain't nobody asked you about no entertainment. Hey.

Speaker 20 Hey, matter of fact, you know what I'm thinking about too, Uncle?

Speaker 20 You know, I mean, there are many ways to think about it you know and and

Speaker 20 people having opinions on how you say it and who we're taking a shot at but

Speaker 20 when everything is in your favor especially in the situation you're in

Speaker 20 depth chart wise position wise

Speaker 20 the owner wants you then i also think about well what the am i taking a shot for

Speaker 20 when I'm getting the grace from the people that matter.

Speaker 20 I don't know. I just, listen, I factor in all the different things.
That's why I factor in all all the different things

Speaker 20 outside of just, oh, it's a shot at him. Well, hell, the owner's on my side.

Speaker 20 I'm starting this game. I mean, what the fuck am I shooting for? What would be the point? There would be no need to.

Speaker 13 So let me ask you a question.

Speaker 13 Who goes to camp not ready to compete?

Speaker 20 I'm with you. Hey, listen.

Speaker 13 So in other words, he's a competitor. I'm here to compete.
Who in training camp isn't a competitor? You don't get to this level without competing. competing.

Speaker 13 And when you go to training camp, unless you're the, unless you're, and that's just the way your makeup is, everybody competes. Even Patrick Mahomes competing against himself.

Speaker 13 So him saying that, oh.

Speaker 13 Hold on.

Speaker 13 Speaking to CBS reporter, Gabriel was asked about his comfortability in front of a camera. There are entertainers and they are competitors and I totally understand that.

Speaker 13 My job is to compete and that's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 13 CBS reporter asked Gabriel

Speaker 13 about his comfortability in front of the camera. There are entertainers and they are competitors and I totally understand that.

Speaker 13 My job is to compete and that's what I'm going to do. Now, again.

Speaker 20 I like that.

Speaker 13 Ain't asking him nothing about no entertainment. Well, hold on, hold on.
He's

Speaker 13 the question.

Speaker 13 There are entertainers.

Speaker 20 Hey, hold on, wait, wait. Did you stay? Listen to me.

Speaker 20 Entertains right?

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 20 What do entertainers always have in front of them? That are always comfortable in front of cameras. What are actors? Yeah.
They're entertainers, right?

Speaker 13 You make my point. Because Shadua has always had what in front of him?

Speaker 13 So, but you say they didn't take a shot at Shadua.

Speaker 20 Nah, see, see?

Speaker 13 You see what I did here? You see, I walked right into that chat. I walked it right into it.

Speaker 13 Walked it right into it.

Speaker 20 Y'all killing me.

Speaker 13 You said, you said

Speaker 13 Shadur is good at this because he's had a camera in front of him his whole life.

Speaker 13 So why? So if he didn't take a shot, so who is he talking about?

Speaker 20 People that are always in front of the camera. That's why they're so comfortable.
They're entertainers.

Speaker 13 Who on his team had a camera in front of

Speaker 13 his whole life?

Speaker 13 Oh, but speak up for the team.

Speaker 20 I don't like how y'all do that, boy.

Speaker 13 Hey.

Speaker 13 Chad, you say, I got it. Hey, Chad, did I tie him up?

Speaker 20 Your young, innocent kid just answering the question and y'all just running with it. That probably ain't what he meant, man.
Gotta leave, boy. Y'all, we all.

Speaker 13 I don't know what he meant. I don't know what he meant.
All I know is he's saying.

Speaker 13 Say what you mean, mean what you say. All he had, all he had, all, hey,

Speaker 13 being a quarterback, playing at the University of Oregon.

Speaker 20 You can't tell a man how to answer. You can't tell a man how to answer a question.
You can't do that. He answered the question the way he

Speaker 20 felt. And I just, I feel me

Speaker 20 being a player that has also played, understanding the quarterback position, I don't think he was taking a shot at the person on his team that he's competing with. That's all.

Speaker 13 Who asked him about entertainers?

Speaker 20 That's the way he wanted to answer the question.

Speaker 13 Exactly.

Speaker 13 Exactly.

Speaker 20 You think in the middle of a game, he's thinking about,

Speaker 20 how should I answer this? You know what? This is a great time to take a shot at your door. Huh?

Speaker 20 No.

Speaker 13 That's why you got to be careful. Because if you're not careful, if it comes up, it'll come out.

Speaker 13 You don't think that he thinks that...

Speaker 13 No problem.

Speaker 13 That's your opinion. You don't believe he took a shot? Me and a lot of other people believe that he did take a shot.
I'm not here to try to change your mind.

Speaker 20 I'm just telling you, I just think, I just think it's

Speaker 20 being blown

Speaker 20 a little out of proportion. And I don't think it's what he meant.
What he needs to do is be better, be careful with his words and the way he words things.

Speaker 13 Why you got to be careful? Because

Speaker 13 you say you want people to be truthful. Now you want to be true.

Speaker 20 I think he was truthful, but I just think the meaning of what he's saying is being misconstrued. That's all.

Speaker 20 And that's a big word for me.

Speaker 20 Misconstrued. That's a big word right there.
Yeah.

Speaker 20 But

Speaker 13 like I said, I just

Speaker 13 we

Speaker 13 look at it differently because I don't think he, I think the thing is that, you know, especially that's why quarterbacks are so scripted because they know anything they say is going to be how it's going to be misconstrued, the big word that you use.

Speaker 13 That's why you always get... Tom is telling you now.
Tom like, oh, that guy's the greatest guy ever. He's like, oh, we're going to him all day.
Now he said what he said to the public.

Speaker 13 Now he's telling you what he actually thought.

Speaker 13 That's why quarterbacks, that's why, you know, you don't really get anything from the quarterback because they know

Speaker 13 the slightest twist or, you know, how it will be.

Speaker 13 Right, right, right, right, right. You're right.

Speaker 13 That's why they're normally

Speaker 13 ultra scripted.

Speaker 20 Listen, I like it. I like it.
You listen.

Speaker 20 Things from two different lenses. You got two eyes.
I only got one. So maybe that's why I can't see what you see.

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Speaker 8 OSA is a serious condition where your airway partially or completely collapses during sleep, which may cause breathing interruptions and oxygen deprivation.

Speaker 9 Learn more at don'tsleep on osa.com.

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Speaker 13 The Commanders have been looking to trade running back Brian Robinson Jr.

Speaker 13 or Jordan Shorts. Jordan Schultz.

Speaker 13 Right now, he's listed as RB1 on the depth chart. Austin Eckler, number two, and Jeremy McNichols, number three.

Speaker 20 Wait a minute.

Speaker 13 Go ahead.

Speaker 20 You don't want to pay Terry McLaurin.

Speaker 20 You want to trade running back number one.

Speaker 20 I'm assuming someone else must have really, really impressed in the preseason at the running back position.

Speaker 13 Well, you ain't got nobody but Austin Eckler and Jeremy McNichols. So you know what you get with Austin Eckler.
He's more of a runner. He's more of a receiver than a runner.

Speaker 13 He went to the Pro Bowl one down.

Speaker 20 Third down back. Third down back.

Speaker 13 You're not a winner.

Speaker 13 I haven't seen McNichols, but I'll take a look at it tomorrow. And then I'll be able to give you, I'll be able to give you a clear picture.
It's like, okay, I understand.

Speaker 20 What are we doing? Well, I don't know what we're doing over there in Washington. To have a season like you had last year, right?

Speaker 20 To have a season like you had last year.

Speaker 20 What would you want to do?

Speaker 20 I want to make sure we do everything possible from a business standpoint, especially when it comes to my number one receiver that my quarterback relied on, that made a lot of plays for us last year.

Speaker 20 in the regular season and in the playoffs and making sure he signed and and happy.

Speaker 20 Now,

Speaker 20 oh, two weeks before the season started, we want to get rid of quarterback. Excuse me, we want to get rid of running back number one.

Speaker 13 The running back. Yeah.

Speaker 20 What are we doing?

Speaker 13 Hey, somebody must have look really good. I mean, when you trade your starter from last year, you really trade your starter.

Speaker 13 Somebody must have really look good, oh, Joe. Listen,

Speaker 20 I ain't heard about it, and I done watched every preseason of the game so far.

Speaker 13 Well, like I said, we'll watch watch it tomorrow, and

Speaker 13 we'll be able to see, like, okay,

Speaker 13 now I can see why they're looking to move on from Brian Robinson Jr. But it's not like he's making a ton of money.
He was the low-round draft pick, wasn't he?

Speaker 20 They're going to be all right, though.

Speaker 20 Regardless of where they go, the quarterbacks.

Speaker 13 He's from Alabama, right?

Speaker 20 The quarterback situation in Washington is so good.

Speaker 13 Third round, okay.

Speaker 20 It's so good. Jaden Daniels is so good.
Even without the running back, they still gonna be okay.

Speaker 13 They're still gonna be okay.

Speaker 20 But if they don't get back,

Speaker 20 if they don't get scary Terry done, I mean, well, what

Speaker 20 are we doing? We're going completely backwards.

Speaker 13 We're going completely backwards.

Speaker 13 I just don't see how he gets north of DK.

Speaker 13 I think,

Speaker 13 and you and I agreed, I think he's in the $28, $30 million range. And that's not what he said.

Speaker 20 I said 30. I said 30.

Speaker 20 30-year.

Speaker 13 Come on, man.

Speaker 13 I don't know.

Speaker 13 Abdul Carter did not like the NFL. Posted a clip,

Speaker 13 posted a clip of the chip block the Jets, TE Stone Smart, put on him. Might be the only highlight of the Jets all season.
And they put, we put BTA,

Speaker 13 you know what, ate that like mofo chicken.

Speaker 13 I don't know if you ate it like chicken, Abdul,

Speaker 13 but

Speaker 13 when you're a great pass rusher, you're gonna get that.

Speaker 20 That's what they're gonna do to you. Matter of fact,

Speaker 20 if he wasn't who he was,

Speaker 20 you know what? He wouldn't be getting chipped. It's the preseason.
Why are we chipping on the way out in the preseason? Because you him.

Speaker 20 You him.

Speaker 20 So the NFL is posting it for a reason. They posting it for a reason because you are him.

Speaker 20 If it was anybody else, they wouldn't be posting it.

Speaker 13 Oh, no.

Speaker 13 The one that good?

Speaker 13 Well, he'll rookie, first of all, high-round draft pick. The second pick of the, what, the third, what is it, the third pick of the pick?

Speaker 20 No, third, third, third. It was Cam, Travis, and then.

Speaker 13 Travis, because Jacksonville traded up with Cleveland to get,

Speaker 13 but. That's what you're going to have to.

Speaker 13 And as you get better, you'll be able to find it.

Speaker 20 Yeah, you'll know. You'll know.
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Speaker 13 You'll You'll be able to feel it.

Speaker 13 And then, when you see that guy there, you unload on him before he unloads on you.

Speaker 13 But it's all a part of the game, duel. You weren't a great player.
They wouldn't even chip you. They let, hey, tackle, go ahead and handle that.

Speaker 13 The Panthers signed UFL MVP Bryce Perkins after Andy Dalton elbow injury.

Speaker 13 Perkins threw 28 touch through, Perkins 28, through for 1,342 yards, nine touchdowns with 269 rush yards and five touchdowns for the Michigan Panthers this season.

Speaker 13 Perkins spent time on the Rams during the 20 through 22 seasons, appearing in five games with one start.

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Speaker 13 You okay? Andy Dalton Elbow.

Speaker 20 Yeah, yeah, I'm okay. I'm okay.
And Andy be back. You know, Bryce coming in.

Speaker 20 I mean, we know who the starting quarterback is

Speaker 20 we know who the starting quarterback is you know whoever the number two is i mean that's cool that's cool

Speaker 20 but numero uno take your ass to be bryce young yes get that thing to jalen coker get that thing to brother winfro

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Speaker 20 we're gonna be all right we got chubby chubby the running back right chubbard hubbard did i say chuba hubbard

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Speaker 20 Yeah, I like that. Yeah, they're going to be right.
Chetty, Panthers. Panthers playoff.

Speaker 20 I said it first.

Speaker 20 Keep pounding.

Speaker 13 Ocho.

Speaker 13 Top five cornerbacks in the NFL since 2000. Darrell Reevers one.
Sherm, two. Champ three.

Speaker 13 Gilmore four.

Speaker 13 Jalen Ramsey, five. I like it.

Speaker 13 What would you change?

Speaker 13 Would you leave it the same?

Speaker 20 I wouldn't change a goddamn thing.

Speaker 13 I would put champion.

Speaker 20 Yeah, well, okay. Oh, you mean numerically?

Speaker 20 Oh, yeah. Numerically, yeah, yeah.
I'll put champion two.

Speaker 20 Yeah,

Speaker 20 I like it how it is. I like it how it is.
Hey, people, I don't think people understand how good Stephon Gilmore was.

Speaker 13 I don't think people.

Speaker 13 I mean, you gotta, I mean, for when the DB gives defensive player of the year,

Speaker 13 that hey, but a whole lot of them now.

Speaker 20 And Jalen jalen ramsey even still to this day another thing about jalen ramsey that i that i don't like is when we talk about the better corners better man-to-man corners in the nfl we're not mentioning jalen ramsey's name enough

Speaker 20 we're not still very good still very good in one-on-one situations where they're playing off whether playing up in man-to-man and some people say oh well he this guy beat him everybody gets beat everybody yeah nobody has a high percentage of times that he wins his matchups a high percentage and everybody that's on that list, chat, chat, listen to me real quick.

Speaker 20 Everybody on that list,

Speaker 20 95% of DBs in NFL games, they play not to get beat.

Speaker 20 And there's a short percentage of maybe 5%

Speaker 20 that play to make a play. There's a huge difference.

Speaker 20 There's a huge difference. They're playing to make a play, not just playing not to get beat.
I'm going to run the scheme. I'm going to keep the guy in front of me.

Speaker 20 And if he catches the ball, I make the tackle. No, these individuals,

Speaker 20 they're trying to make a play.

Speaker 13 And all of them are very good tacklers.

Speaker 13 Very good tacklers.

Speaker 13 I think Champ went to like 10 or 11 Pro Bowls. He was four or five time first-team all-pro, led the league in picks one year.

Speaker 13 Gilly, Stefan Gilmore was defensive player of the year. He had a great season.

Speaker 13 That season, 2009, with that 2009 season when Reeves had the unbelievable season, but Charles Woodson won the defensive player of the year.

Speaker 13 Ramsey's just been good everywhere he's been.

Speaker 13 It's just surprising to me that how good he's been, that he's been moved this many times.

Speaker 20 That's what's surprising to me, OT.

Speaker 13 So, Jacksonville, you know, from Jacksonville to the Rams, Rams to the Dolphins, Dolphins to the Steelers.

Speaker 13 Ramsey's been good everywhere he's been. He ain't no slouch.
No, no, no.

Speaker 13 Can play multiple positions. I can see him moving, play in safety.
Like you saw Charles Wilson and Rod Wilson later in their career move to the safety position and Aeneas Williams

Speaker 20 and time.

Speaker 20 I mean,

Speaker 20 they're going to be able to do a multitude of things with Ramsey.

Speaker 20 in Pittsburgh. So that's going to be really interesting the way they use him.
Obviously, Brother Joy Porter Jr. is going to be on one side, and I'm not sure where Slay is going to be.

Speaker 20 And maybe when that team go to three receiver sets or four or five receivers, I ain't no telling how that's going to work out or what they're going to do, but it's going to be, they're going to have very, many, very many options.

Speaker 20 And with that, that front four, that front four that they have,

Speaker 13 that ball, that ball got to come, that ball got to come out, huh?

Speaker 13 Are we saying Cam Hayward's going to be there or not be there?

Speaker 20 Shoot, I forgot about that. God damn it.

Speaker 20 God damn it.

Speaker 20 Is he really really going to stand on business too long? You think?

Speaker 13 He seems like a

Speaker 13 distinguished gentleman.

Speaker 13 Damn.

Speaker 20 But they just paid you last year.

Speaker 20 I mean, how many times have you ever seen a team?

Speaker 13 Okay, no.

Speaker 13 But he said, if I had to, if I'd have had two sacks, y'all would have cut me this year, too.

Speaker 13 Even though you just paid me last year.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 13 I'm just like you do me sometimes. Oh, oh, oh, I'm just giving you the other side.

Speaker 20 I got you. But let me ask you a question.
Have you ever seen a team pay a player one season and a player play that well and they come right back and do a deal again?

Speaker 13 No, I have not. There you go.

Speaker 20 And it's not going to set the president.

Speaker 13 They're not going to set the president. I guess he said it's the first time for everything.

Speaker 13 He said, I've seen, he said,

Speaker 13 I've seen teams pay a player and cut him the next season.

Speaker 20 That's a good one.

Speaker 13 So

Speaker 13 we'll see.

Speaker 13 But I think the only thing I think, and I think Sherman's phenomenal,

Speaker 13 I do bump him down just a tad because their defense didn't allow it for them to travel. They stayed on one side.

Speaker 13 Everybody else in this picture traveled.

Speaker 20 You know what?

Speaker 13 And I think it's something to be said for that.

Speaker 13 I mean, think about it.

Speaker 13 If you played in the 80s and you followed Jerry, Sterling Sharp, Chris Carter, Herman Moore, Andre Rising.

Speaker 13 You know what I'm saying? I mean, just think about your corner, and that was your assignment. Michael Irvin.
I'll be with you.

Speaker 20 That's all I can say.

Speaker 13 You know, Michael Irvin, Anthony Miller,

Speaker 13 you traveled.

Speaker 13 For me, it's something to be said for a guy that'll travel, that you're willing to pick up frequent flyer miles.

Speaker 13 But Sherm, Sherm was phenomenal. And, you know, and that's why he's an all-decade player in the 2010s.
And rightfully so, because he he was he was that good

Speaker 20 he was a quarter of the legion of ball and another thing when we talk about when we talk about those those five corners i want to talk about some corners that aren't listed in there that i think are deserving to be on that list as well i got two i got two that deserve to be on that top five asante samuels and patrick peterson

Speaker 13 yep

Speaker 20 yep yep i agree i agree oh you know what i'm surprised pat pig on there yeah i'm not sure who made i'm not sure who made that list but the funny thing about it is they were so good during their time.

Speaker 20 I'm talking about Prime. Prime Patrick Peterson, man,

Speaker 20 man, stop playing. Prime Asante, even though he didn't travel, but that's not what was asked of him.

Speaker 13 That's why, like I said, Shern played the defense and he played it extremely well.

Speaker 20 Yeah.

Speaker 13 He played it extremely well.

Speaker 13 But for me,

Speaker 13 when you got to, you got to take Brandon Marshall and take Ocho and take Calvin and take Megatron and take T.O. and take Julio,

Speaker 13 bro,

Speaker 13 I got to get a bunch of people.

Speaker 20 Listen, do you understand the kind of bag?

Speaker 20 You understand the kind of toolbox you have to have as a DB to play against each one of them receivers you just named, knowing that you got to approach each situation differently.

Speaker 20 Your style of play has to be different based on who is, man.

Speaker 20 That is why I say, and people will laugh at me, I say defensive back is the hardest position to play, especially if you're a traveling corner that has to have a, man, listen, you got to be on your.

Speaker 13 You think it's harder,

Speaker 13 maybe, maybe physically, but not mentally. Yes,

Speaker 13 the quarterback?

Speaker 20 Yes, it's a mental game. Hold on, timeout.
Oh, this is the great conversation.

Speaker 20 Name the

Speaker 20 Patrick. I'm Patrick Peterson.
One week, say the the receivers again.

Speaker 20 One week, I got to go against who?

Speaker 13 Okay, you're going against Julio.

Speaker 20 Julio Jones.

Speaker 20 Fast,

Speaker 20 good in bump and run. Can run routes like no other.

Speaker 20 I got to travel with him for four quarters.

Speaker 20 Yep. My toolbox,

Speaker 20 my technique, has to be perfect. Mentally,

Speaker 20 in itself, that in itself is just like playing the quarterback position because you got to be on point. One mistake, one error, you done.
That's six points.

Speaker 13 Look, I'm not saying it's not easy, but as the quarterback, I got to know, okay,

Speaker 13 this defensive front, let me, instead of Liz, let me rip this.

Speaker 13 I need to know X, Y,

Speaker 13 Z,

Speaker 13 running back.

Speaker 13 There's a reason why the quarterback playbook is this thick and defensive backs playbook is this thick.

Speaker 20 But listen,

Speaker 20 even if the defensive back playbook is this small, right?

Speaker 20 Understanding what he has to go through, understanding what he has to go through every down.

Speaker 13 Think about all the coverages.

Speaker 13 I got to think about down and distance. I got to think about position on the field.
I got to think about personnel. Are they in sub? Are they in spinner? Are they in three-down scan?

Speaker 13 Quarter cover four? Cover six, cover five. They clown it.
They banjoin it. Oh, you're I got to know all of that.
And I got to know, okay, who nickel, dime,

Speaker 13 sub.

Speaker 13 No, they in junk. They in six, too.
No, they in a five.

Speaker 20 Right, right, right, right. No, I, I, I,

Speaker 13 no, sir.

Speaker 20 Honestly, listen, one week I'm traveling. One week I got T.O.

Speaker 20 Next week, I got Calvin Johnson.

Speaker 20 The next week I got Randy Moss. And that, man,

Speaker 20 man, please. And I'm trying.

Speaker 13 And I'm tracking. One week, you got one week, you got the Steelers defense with that 3-4.
The next week, you got the Eagles defense with a 43.

Speaker 13 And the next week, and then the next week, you got the Ravens. Oh, that.

Speaker 13 And then the next week, you got the Buccaneers.

Speaker 13 And then the next week, you got Seattle.

Speaker 13 And the next week, you got the Jets.

Speaker 13 And then the next week, you got the Broncos.

Speaker 13 And then you got Bill Belichick. And then you got Rex Ryan.

Speaker 13 Then you got Wade Phillips.

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 13 Physically, corner is the toughest position because you're asking somebody. It's like Ginger Rogers and Fred Astaire.

Speaker 13 She had to do everything that Fred Astaire did, but she had to do it backwards and she had to do it at heels.

Speaker 13 So I have to do everything that Julio is going to do, but unfortunately, I got to do it backwards.

Speaker 13 But not only must I know where, not only must I know where that DB is, I better find out where TJ Watt and Michael Parsons are.

Speaker 13 And you know

Speaker 13 why I'm at it? What the hell is Rokan Smith gonna do? What is Ray Lewis gonna do? Him and old Erlacher, they up to something no good. I know it.

Speaker 13 And I need to worry about Warren Sapp and Johnny Ram to hitting me in the back of my damn head.

Speaker 13 What am I gonna do about Reggie White and Brute Wrestle and Bruce?

Speaker 13 Uh-uh. Nah.

Speaker 20 You know, you keep saying it's a physical game for the DBs. That's a mental game, huh?

Speaker 20 Oh, it's mental game. It's a mental game.
Because now you got your job playing against some of the greats week in and week out is I need to make sure I keep him thinking the whole time.

Speaker 20 I need to make sure I keep him thinking the whole time.

Speaker 20 Whether it's lining up, whether it's lining up right in front of him, shading inside, maybe shading outside, continue to give him different looks.

Speaker 20 How can I throw the timing of this offense off to be able to give me an advantage as a defensive back to slow him down? How can I mess up the timing of their offense?

Speaker 20 I mean, it's so much that goes into it outside of just the physical aspect. It's a chess match up here.

Speaker 13 But you know what, Ocho?

Speaker 13 Let's just say, for the sake of argument, they're going to bombard him. They're going to throw him 15 passes.

Speaker 13 They're going to give him 15 targets. How many times do you think I'm going to throw the ball? And every time, I've got to be perfect.

Speaker 13 Because if

Speaker 13 I'm late on the outball, tell the chat what's going to happen.

Speaker 13 Hey, what happens if I if I missed the hot? Anthony Richardson, what happens when you miss the hot?

Speaker 13 If you don't redirect the line, the line was going to the left, and you said okay, and you didn't rip it, and send it right.

Speaker 13 That's what you should have done. You should have ripped it.

Speaker 13 So that way you slide the line to the right. Now, since you look it to the left, anybody comes off that side, you throw hot.

Speaker 13 Mentally, nothing like the quarterback.

Speaker 13 The hardest thing to do, I believe, in professional sports, is hit a baseball. The hardest position to play is quarterback.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 13 All right.

Speaker 13 That's why you can get guys that's third or fourth rounders and

Speaker 13 take off.

Speaker 13 That quarterback position, man.

Speaker 13 How many times a team done go two, three, four?

Speaker 13 You just told me the Cleveland Browns had 35 starting quarterbacks. They don't have more starting quarterbacks than starting cornerbacks.
And they got two of them.

Speaker 20 I tell you what, I got another one for you.

Speaker 13 I'm going to tell you

Speaker 20 the Cleveland Browns have found probably their best corner they've ever had is Denzel Ward. You know how long it took for them to find a Denzel Ward?

Speaker 20 They had Lee Boden. Lee Boden was really good.
They had Dave McCutcheon. Yeah,

Speaker 13 I mean, just before your time, they had Hanford Dicken and Frank Minifield. They were really good.

Speaker 20 They weren't no Denzi Ward.

Speaker 13 They were, they were, hey, you didn't do some homework on the channel.

Speaker 13 They were really good. Yeah.

Speaker 13 No, Ocho, they were really good.

Speaker 13 Menfield and Dixon,

Speaker 13 they were really, no, Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 13 They were really good.

Speaker 13 I'm trying to think. Who else Cleveland had? They had Joe Hayden.

Speaker 13 But Joe Hayden,

Speaker 13 I know you did.

Speaker 20 Joe, but listen, Joe was great. Joe was good.
Joe was really good. Lee Bottom was very good.

Speaker 20 Dalen McCutcheon, Dale McCutcheon. Did I say it right? Remember Dale McCutcheon from USC? Yeah, he was really good.
But Denzel Ward,

Speaker 20 different ball game.

Speaker 13 Oh, Denzel, yeah.

Speaker 20 Yeah, different ball game.

Speaker 13 Think about it. Okay, so name the quarterback equivalent of Denzel Ward in Cleveland.
Name the name the uh uh uh uh uh what you call them, the equivalent of Joe Hayden, quarterback in Cleveland.

Speaker 13 I just gave you, you just gave me two quarterbacks, not give me the quarterback equivalent.

Speaker 20 They haven't been able to find one.

Speaker 13 Hey, there you go.

Speaker 13 There you go. But look, this is this is like you said, they left off

Speaker 13 Pat P.

Speaker 13 They left off Asante.

Speaker 13 I'm trying to think who else was.

Speaker 13 yeah,

Speaker 13 that's two for sure they left off Pat P been to like seven eight Pro Bowls

Speaker 13 I think Asante went to like three four

Speaker 13 Pro Bowls

Speaker 20 Hold on what the hell Charles Woodson oh shoot I forgot about what

Speaker 13 First of all, Woody,

Speaker 13 the man played corner for 10 years. Damn.

Speaker 13 He wasn't always no saint.

Speaker 20 I don't know why that slipped my mind. Who the hell made this goddamn list? It shouldn't have been top five.
They should have just said top 10.

Speaker 20 Because it's hard to squeeze five in when there's so many that's

Speaker 20 worthy of a spot.

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Speaker 13 Ty law.

Speaker 13 Well,

Speaker 20 Ty Law will be missing a conversation with Asante Sandwich as well.

Speaker 13 Ty Law at the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 20 Yeah, I know.

Speaker 20 I know.

Speaker 13 With three Super Bowls.

Speaker 13 It was

Speaker 13 the physicality that Ty, them did. Remember

Speaker 13 on the... Marvin Harrison?

Speaker 13 And on the greatest show on Turf, how physical they were.

Speaker 13 Coach Belichick, that's Coach Belichick's dial with the Giants. They got physical with the Bills and the cables.
Right up in your face.

Speaker 20 Yep. Right up in your face.

Speaker 13 Man.

Speaker 13 Woo, they left some people off. They didn't live here.

Speaker 13 I'm going to call Woody. Hey, Woody, they ain't got you on here.
Listen,

Speaker 20 that ain't our doing. Whoever made that list.

Speaker 13 Ocho, the Joe Milton hike may be already over in Dallas. Milton, 9 of 18, 122 yards, and one interception.

Speaker 13 With all the hype around Milton's arm, is he proven just to be a combine or is it still too early, Ocho?

Speaker 20 Oh, that's, ooh, that's a good one, huh? That's a good one.

Speaker 20 It's great.

Speaker 13 People get enamored with how far somebody can throw the ball.

Speaker 13 Tom Brady wasn't throwing the ball 70 yards. Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, all the great quarterbacks.
I mean,

Speaker 13 you've had a few. Elway,

Speaker 13 Marino. You've had a few quarterbacks that can throw the ball 65, 70 yards.
But damn,

Speaker 13 is it accurate? Can you give me 40 and accurate as opposed to somebody who can throw the ball 70, 80 yards?

Speaker 13 Because how many times are you going to throw this unless you throw it a hell married from your own damn 30, like Cordell Stewart C, you beat Michigan? When are you going to use a 60 or a 70 yard arm?

Speaker 13 Yeah, you're right.

Speaker 20 You're right.

Speaker 20 I mean, listen, being able to do it, everyone's enamored with the arm strength and not understanding, well, can you play in a structured environment and be able to make all three level throws?

Speaker 20 Can you throw the short stuff? Can you throw the intermediate stuff? You know? That's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 20 That's what it all comes down to. Having the arm strength, that's like being able to run routes, but also being fast.
Being fast, okay, that's great. That's a great condition.

Speaker 20 You're being able to do everything else. Having a strong arm is great, but can you do the other things as well that are more important than just having the arm strength itself?

Speaker 13 It's like being able to jump in basketball. Boy, that joke would jump out of the gym.
Can he play basketball?

Speaker 13 Can he shoot?

Speaker 13 Can he defend? That's what a big arm.

Speaker 13 Boy, that's your A. He throw it.
A, he gives a one knee, Ocho, and split the uprights from the 50.

Speaker 13 Okay, so how many times is he going to be throwing it from his knee?

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 13 When he stands on two feet and he's throwing a 12-yard out, can he complete it?

Speaker 13 Would he throw the 15-yard comeback or the hook? Don't make it that easy on the shallow cross.

Speaker 20 Don't make it that easy. Can he do all those throws with pressure coming at him and be able to step up in the pocket and still be accurate and make those throws?

Speaker 13 I need you to be able to do some of the things under the rest. Can you do it under the rest?

Speaker 13 Because I know what it's clean. Every quarterback will look good if it's a clean pocket.

Speaker 13 It's just like, man, the zone. Everybody can find the zone, find a dead area in the zone, don't you?

Speaker 13 But when that joker said, when he right there across from you,

Speaker 13 he one yard away from you, and he's sitting down in your face. Can you get over then?

Speaker 13 And I ain't talking about taking you all day because the quarterback can't be back there

Speaker 13 patting the ball damn. I'm about to talk like we talking football.

Speaker 13 Back there patting the football.

Speaker 13 Oh, I'm like, damn. Son, how much time do you think the quarterback got?

Speaker 13 That you gonna make five moves.

Speaker 20 That ain't happening.

Speaker 20 You're gonna run a stutter, go out, and go but listen how do you run a stutter go out and go i will say i'm not sure how much patience teams have but with a quarterback like that that has that kind of arm it would be a great project to continue to help develop him maybe in the right situation he can be pivotal for an offense maybe not the cowboys maybe not the cowboys but somewhere just allow him to continue to develop under the right tutelage in the offseason going to see a Jordan Palmer, working on your game, not throwing the ball deep, working on your game.

Speaker 13 I would limit it that.

Speaker 13 I wouldn't call a whole bunch of, okay, he can throw the deep ball. It's the other stuff.
See, this is what I have the utmost respect for Tyreek, because he didn't become reliant on his speed.

Speaker 13 He became a technician. Tyreek can run the route tree.

Speaker 13 Whereas when he first got into the league, he was mainly a gadget guy. They give it to him on jet sweeps and toss it to him and things like that.

Speaker 13 But Tyreek says, in order for me to be the type of player that I want to be, I'm going to have to learn this route tree. I'm going to have to run the stop.
I'm going to have to run the out.

Speaker 13 I'm going to have to run the slant. I'm going to have to run the comeback, the dig, the over.
I'm going to have to run. I'm going to have to be a complete.

Speaker 13 And he didn't become, yeah, his speed is an added bonus. But Tyreek can run the tree.

Speaker 13 And a lot of times guys just become reliant on speed. They run sloppy route.
They just, they.

Speaker 13 Guys, if you just run, if you just run the, the guy just going to run right in front of you, he's going to pin you to the side and he's gonna run your ass out of bounds i don't care how much speed you got if you don't stack that guy

Speaker 13 he'll run you out of bounds

Speaker 13 he's gonna make he'll make the quarterback make he'll make you he'll make you make the quarterback drop it down the chimney which means it has to be

Speaker 20 every time

Speaker 13 you gotta stack it

Speaker 13 as soon a as soon as soon as you you get around him you got to start squeezing him back in to give your quarterback an opportunity to throw the ball over here, to put it right here.

Speaker 20 And the only way he can get to the ball is going through you.

Speaker 13 It got to go through you.

Speaker 20 You got to go up your back. That's a flag.

Speaker 13 That's a flag.

Speaker 13 But I think sometimes, Ocho, when you've been blessed with an attribute, and in Joe Milton's case, it's his arm.

Speaker 13 I don't know if he's worked on the minutiae, the fine details of playing the quarterback position. How many times you see Tom Brady?

Speaker 13 How many times you see Tom Brady throw the ball 60 60 yards with randy moss i've seen it a few times

Speaker 13 i bet he got more passes to edelman and and wes welker than he got to randy moss yeah yeah yeah yeah

Speaker 13 and and uh what's the other guy name uh uh what was the number 80 putt brown

Speaker 13 no no no not uh amendola

Speaker 13 okay okay okay he got more completions to amendola to edelman and welker than he does moss

Speaker 13 because what's his what was the offense predicated on now it was great

Speaker 13 because you got an opportunity to see him throw the ball down the field. But what was Tom? Poom? Yeah.

Speaker 13 Listen, okay,

Speaker 20 Tom Brady in that offense in New England all those years is probably one of the few offenses, maybe the only offense where the offense is run from the inside out.

Speaker 20 Yes. It's not red from the outside in, it's red from the inside out, which is why Wes Walker was so good.
Amendola.

Speaker 13 And his tight ends.

Speaker 20 Tight ends. Hell, even the

Speaker 13 That's why they weren't reliant. Man,

Speaker 13 they weren't reliant on outside or guys outside the numbers. They've only had really one.

Speaker 13 Everything else was inside.

Speaker 13 When you go back and study them, you look at Troy Brown, you look at Patton, and you look at Deion Branch, you look at Amendola and Welker and Edelman, they were inside the number guys.

Speaker 13 Really,

Speaker 13 that couple of years that they had Moss,

Speaker 13 what was that, 2007, 2008?

Speaker 13 Well, 2007, because 2008, Brady got hurt, and that's with Castle. And I think Moss came back, what, played one more year, might have played one more year with Brady, 2009? I think.

Speaker 13 I know he played two years there, seven and eight.

Speaker 20 Was that 23 touchdown season?

Speaker 13 2007. Woo!

Speaker 13 That was the year they got beaten the Super Bowl. That was perfect.
They were undefeated when they played the Giants in Arizona.

Speaker 20 Man,

Speaker 20 boy, they lit it up that season, boy.

Speaker 13 The Super Bowl logo theory is back. Lions versus the Ravens Super Bowl confirmed.
Look at that, Ocho.

Speaker 20 Lions versus who?

Speaker 13 Ravens.

Speaker 20 I have a question.

Speaker 20 When they made the logo last year,

Speaker 20 before the season started, who was on the logo last year?

Speaker 20 Did they get it right?

Speaker 13 Madden 26 also did a simulation, and they had the Packers beating the Ravens in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 13 So, who's on the thing last year? Who did they have

Speaker 13 the colors? Because I guess they're looking at the colorways, and you're looking at the purple, and you're looking at the sky blue, that's the Lions' color. So

Speaker 13 last year, it was the Eagles Chiefs.

Speaker 20 Whoa.

Speaker 20 Serious?

Speaker 20 Yep.

Speaker 20 So, so Lamar Jackson is going to get his Super Bowl this year?

Speaker 13 Mad 26 got the Packers beating the Ravens,

Speaker 13 but the logo thing, it didn't say who's winning.

Speaker 20 Hey,

Speaker 20 that's interesting. I like that.

Speaker 13 There's last year's Yoke logo.

Speaker 13 You see the red, and then you see the green.

Speaker 13 Wait, okay.

Speaker 13 You see, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 20 That's dope. I don't know, I don't know if that's possible, and I know it's gonna be the Bengals, but okay.

Speaker 13 Nah, they didn't say nothing about the Bengals, Ocho. I'm sorry.

Speaker 20 You do see, you do see, you do see my team doing something they haven't done before, playing in the preseason, right? The starters, Joe Burrow,

Speaker 13 I mean, I kind of see your team doing something they've done a lot, missed the playoffs.

Speaker 20 Yeah, it's all, hey, listen, it's all funny games now.

Speaker 20 It's all funny games now.

Speaker 13 Ocho, Hall of Fame Pass Rusher,

Speaker 13 HBCU alum, Texas Southern alum, Michael Strahan said he used to eat fast food before every NFL game he played in.

Speaker 13 I used to actually stop at fast food restaurants and eat before I got to the stadium. That was my pregame meal.

Speaker 20 But don't listen to me.

Speaker 20 Don't listen to me. I've been saying it for a very long time.
All the greats have done it. I'm not saying I was great.
I'm just saying I played at a very high level for a very long time

Speaker 20 while entertaining at the same time.

Speaker 20 He was always hurt, though.

Speaker 13 Look,

Speaker 20 Michael Jordan, pregame meal. It's well documented.
It was McDonald's. Usain Boat, it's well documented.

Speaker 13 Before a race.

Speaker 13 The pre-game pre, if you want to eat it once or twice, that's fine. You, that was your staple.

Speaker 13 There's a difference. He said, Before every game, he didn't play a game every day.

Speaker 20 I know, I ate it before every game.

Speaker 13 You ate it every day, right?

Speaker 20 But that's why I didn't get hurt.

Speaker 13 Okay,

Speaker 20 I like that. That's dope.
That's dope. I'm glad Mike came out and said that, man.

Speaker 20 It further proves

Speaker 20 my method about Ocho versus science. And I've been winning for a very long time.

Speaker 13 Sue Bird is now officially enshrined in bronze in Seattle as the first WNBA statue in history.

Speaker 13 Get him.

Speaker 20 That's raw.

Speaker 13 Yeah. I like that.

Speaker 13 Got the ponytail waving.

Speaker 20 Hey, man, listen. I know.
You know what I'm going to do?

Speaker 13 DT going to be the next one.

Speaker 20 Deanna Taurasi?

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 DT.

Speaker 13 But hell, where would Candace Sparkers gonna be? Would it be at the Sparks or Chicago?

Speaker 20 Hey, what if I get a statue like that?

Speaker 20 I'm going to get a statue made. I'm going to just put it out there in front of Paycor Stadium.
I'm going to put it there on my own.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 20 Yeah, I'm gonna put it. I'm gonna put it on my own.

Speaker 13 Uh

Speaker 13 that's nice. That's a that's a huge honor.

Speaker 13 An unbelievable honor.

Speaker 13 And and and and deserving. What?

Speaker 13 Oh, Maya Moore. Maya Moore definitely needs to get one in front of Minnesota.

Speaker 13 Cynthia Cooker.

Speaker 13 They ain't got no team no more.

Speaker 13 Man, hell nobody put nothing.

Speaker 13 They ain't got no team.

Speaker 20 Hey, they need, you know what?

Speaker 20 Speaking of statues,

Speaker 20 statues,

Speaker 20 whoever did Joe Buss and Ed Reed and all them, they need to go D-Wade's statue. They need to redo it.

Speaker 13 I'm for real, man.

Speaker 13 Blair deal mine and it reads.

Speaker 20 Yeah, they need to. They need, yeah,

Speaker 20 They need to redo D-Waves, man.

Speaker 20 I'm just saying. I'm just saying.
The head was too small for the statue, for the body.

Speaker 13 But

Speaker 13 Suzon

Speaker 13 looks well and very well-deserving. But I think they're going to be a few.
Obviously,

Speaker 13 not my anymore.

Speaker 13 Asia. Asia's going to get one.
She already got one at University of South Carolina, so she's going to have another one out here.

Speaker 13 NBA Youngboy with the same amount of top 10 albums as Jay-Z and Nas is crazy. Here are some rappers with the most top 10 albums in Billboard's top 200 chart history.

Speaker 13 Surprised by any of these, Ocho? Future got 18. Drake, 17.
Hove, 16. Nas, 16.
NBA Youngboy, 16.

Speaker 20 I'm not surprised by none of them. Now, listen.

Speaker 13 Rappers with the most Billboard top 10 albums.

Speaker 13 Eminem, 13. Kanye West is number seven with 13.
Lil Wayne, 13. Jeezy, got 11.
Snoop Dio Double G got 11.

Speaker 13 God.

Speaker 20 Yeah,

Speaker 20 that can't be surprising at all because all of those are the

Speaker 13 NBA Young Boys up there, but historically, yeah, it is. I'm surprised.

Speaker 20 You are surprised about NBA Youngboy?

Speaker 20 Well, you better get hit, boy.

Speaker 20 My kids put me down and got me understanding NBA Youngboy, but he liked that.

Speaker 20 He like he liked that.

Speaker 13 Do you see the names that's on that?

Speaker 20 Yeah, I see the names like,

Speaker 20 do you understand who NBA Youngboy is?

Speaker 20 Clearly, but a young young bull like that, huh? Boy, out of New Orleans, man. He the real deal.

Speaker 20 He the real deal.

Speaker 13 That man wanted that man tired with Hoving.

Speaker 13 That man got more. That man got more than M,

Speaker 13 more than Kanye, more than Weezy, more than G.

Speaker 13 It's hard. Man, let me move on.
I don't even want to talk about this no more. All I'm doing is get.
Let's move. I'm moving on.

Speaker 20 Hold on, I'm going to tell you what song to listen to. Hold on, let me tell you what song to listen to.

Speaker 20 What are you talking about? NBA Young Boy. Young boy, he be snapping, boy.

Speaker 20 Hold on. I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 20 Damn, what song was that?

Speaker 13 All right. It's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and

Speaker 13 the music.

Speaker 13 kept nowhood jr said ocho what happened to that 22 11 and 8 game today i could get three three points 10 assists he had us all believing in you ocho i mean

Speaker 20 we won the game

Speaker 20 Believe in that. We won the game.

Speaker 13 Ocho said he won the game.

Speaker 13 Triple X up Saturday. Ocho got to change the name.
Ocho Cito.

Speaker 13 You know what that means in Spanish, right, Ocho?

Speaker 20 Zero. Zero.
You got to say it right, huh? Say it right.

Speaker 13 I'm glad you know what it means. That's what we can move on.
We can move on. I just want to make sure you pronounce it right so you know what it was.
Zero.

Speaker 13 Aaron Jones said, man, who wrote that top five cornerback list? It must have been Jalen Ramsey, Cousin, because ain't no way did we forget about

Speaker 13 Pat P,

Speaker 13 Asante, and Woodson.

Speaker 20 Yeah, yeah. Listen, they should do the top 10 because there's too many players that are deserving to be in that top five that weren't in there.

Speaker 20 And depending on who you ask, the top five will change, obviously. I'm trying to find that NBA Young Boy song for you, huh?

Speaker 13 Yeah, see, you got to find it. Rob Live, Rob Live said, whatever happened to Michael Crabtree? He was a dog.

Speaker 20 I see. I saw Michael Crabtree when I was in Houston at one time.
I went to watch the tank fight. B.
Andre Johnson and Jonathan Joseph.

Speaker 13 Crab Tree. Crab Tree there.

Speaker 20 He out there in Houston.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 13 Big Red, Big Ged said, Hey, Unc, I went back and watched the Ravens versus the Giants full game on YouTube. Y'all defense was serious.
I was born in 2002. I never seen a TV

Speaker 13 that

Speaker 13 for real.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 20 I'm glad you just said it. Talk about defense.
Man, people on Twitter arguing me down that the Legion of Boone was better than the Ravens 2000 defense, man.

Speaker 20 And they talk about, oh, it's a different era. Oh, they held Peyton Manning to eight points in the Super Bowl.

Speaker 13 I'm like.

Speaker 13 Boy.

Speaker 20 Man.

Speaker 20 I just, I just.

Speaker 13 Unconocho. Is Edelman a first ballot hall of famer? Also, guys, eligible,

Speaker 13 do they look at Breeds or Phillip Rivers for first ballot? Where Brees is a first ballot. Edelman is not going on the first.
Do y'all know? Do y'all understand?

Speaker 13 There have only been a handful of receivers that's gone in on the first ballot

Speaker 13 for a wide receiver. That is a hard position to go in.

Speaker 13 Yep.

Speaker 13 On the first ballot.

Speaker 13 Hell,

Speaker 13 there might not be about five or six, maybe five guys that's gone in on the first ballot for the wide receiver.

Speaker 13 mech i think megatron went in the first ballot randy did steve largett

Speaker 13 jerry

Speaker 13 i think uh

Speaker 13 he played with cleveland and the uh lance uh paul warfield i think he was the first ballot but it ain't been a whole bunch

Speaker 20 you know what

Speaker 20 out of all them people that was first ballot and those that had the weight you know who didn't

Speaker 13 Me.

Speaker 20 You know why I ain't wait?

Speaker 20 Did I put my own damn jacket on in the middle of a game?

Speaker 13 Dr. Frankie L.
Bellamy, have y'all seen highest the lowest? Oh, that's out.

Speaker 20 I'm going to watch that. Hey, it's on, oh, I got to go to the theater, huh?

Speaker 13 I guess. I guess it just came out.

Speaker 20 Ask it, is it in theaters or

Speaker 20 is it streaming? Can I watch it here in the hotel?

Speaker 13 But, Doc, let me go ahead and finish your doc's question. Uh, uh, question.
I think you would have been great in it, uh, the movie with Denzel and your cousin,

Speaker 13 uncanny resilience.

Speaker 20 Yeah, you know, my cousin, he can act now. He can act, he can act.

Speaker 13 Oh, Lord, have mercy. It's me.

Speaker 20 What he can act.

Speaker 13 You'll be able to stream it on September 5th. It's in theater.

Speaker 20 But as a matter of fact, when I get to Bambi tomorrow, I'm going to go check it out. I'm going to go check it out tomorrow.

Speaker 13 That concludes the damn.

Speaker 20 I'm trying to find that NBA Young Boy song for you. I'm gonna find it.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah, that lets me know right now.

Speaker 20 You gotta see me. He has too many albums.
I want one specific song so you understand. I think it's off the Never Broke Again album, but I don't think that's it.

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