Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho react to Dillon Gabriel's SHADE at Shedeur Sanders
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Jets vs Giants preseason matchup, reacts to Dillon Gabriel’s surprising comments that appear to take a shot at Shedeur Sanders, and debate what it means for the NFL rookie QB battle and much more!
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we've got to get back to the Dylan Brooks. Dylan Brooks.
Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 5 He completed eight of his first nine passes, threw a pick six, bad decision, but was later credited with a fumble on a botched handoff. After the game, he made some very, very interesting comments.
Speaker 5 He said, there are entertainers and they're competitors, and my job is to compete.
Speaker 5 He tried to clarify later at the presser, saying he meant the media are the entertainers and a competitor, and he's a competitor, but and he wasn't taking a shot at Shador, but the damage was done.
Speaker 5 Everybody knows what he meant by because you know why? I'm gonna let you take off. You remember in Oregon what the head coach said when they played Colorado?
Speaker 5 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 11 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 5 All right, go ahead,
Speaker 11 I don't, I don't, don't, hey, Chad, I don't want to do him like that.
Speaker 11 I want to give Dylan Gabriel a little grace, a little understanding, because I don't think
Speaker 11 a college kid coming in as a rookie in the NFL would take that kind of shot at a teammate that he's competing with for a job.
Speaker 11 I just don't see,
Speaker 11 I don't see it. I see it as
Speaker 11 him when he says entertainers in that aspect where he said it's the media. I'm not sure how he views the media as the entertainers, but the way the media stirs the pot and creates the ruckus.
Speaker 11
and all he does is compete. I see it from that sense.
I don't see him as, I'm not even sure if he's that type of person, that
Speaker 11 type of individual to even have that kind of savvy to say something like that publicly as brash
Speaker 11
in that moment. So I'm going to give him a little grace.
I think Dylan Gabriel actually played well. He played well.
Speaker 11 What he did those first few drives,
Speaker 11
driving the team down the field, he made some really good throws. He was poised in the pocket.
He had command of the offense. Obviously, the pick six for one, he has to see that.
Speaker 11
There are two people, somebody ran the wrong route. Two people in the same place never happens.
There always has to be spacing on all concepts when it comes to running routes.
Speaker 11 So, as a quarterback, you have to see that. All right, there are two players
Speaker 11
in the wrong place. Don't make a bad play even worse by even throwing the ball.
You should just chuck that out of bounds because you're already outside the pocket anyway. New down.
Speaker 11 So that I think he's going to be fine. Getting those reps in.
Speaker 11 And it's all about making plays at the quarter acquisition but how consistent can you be and so when some sometimes there's a chance you can make something out of nothing and then sometimes you can't and um i i thought he i thought i thought he played he played okay he played he played really well
Speaker 5 i disagree with you i think he was taking the shot at you think so
Speaker 5 When have we ever thought about the media, those beat riders as entertainers? We've heard his coach, he was on the team when he said they're there for Limb.
Speaker 11 You can't tie him and his coach together as if they have the same mind as they're as if they're one you you can't do name the time you've ever heard someone say there are entertainers and there are competitors and I'm here to compete tell me the time okay listen let's say if let's say he's taking a shot at Shador right at what point has he been entertainer he's a he's a football player as well
Speaker 5 but we've heard people say that's what he's more interested in doing what
Speaker 11 I'm just curious I'm waiting we what okay tell me what you're curious about he's more interested in entertaining Shadur is a quarterback.
Speaker 5
No, no, no. I'm not saying he is.
I'm saying that's what people have said about Shadur.
Speaker 5
Okay. Okay.
About entertaining, about the antics.
Speaker 11 Okay, I see where you're going. I see where you're going.
Speaker 5 Plus, we've heard this before. And sometimes
Speaker 5
it seeps out when you've been around people and they perceive other people as that. If you're not careful, you'll repeat what you heard someone say about something.
I'm not going with it.
Speaker 11 Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 5 He didn't have to say that. All he says is, look, I'm here to compete.
Speaker 5
Whatever happens, happen. It doesn't matter if I'm first team, second team, third team, or fourth team.
My job is to compete. Why did he have to throw the entertainer aspect in them?
Speaker 5 Everybody is an entertainer. That's what football is.
Speaker 5 Everybody is entertainers.
Speaker 11
Yeah, you're right. You're right.
It's an entertainment sport. It's entertainment.
He might have been taking a shot at me. Shit.
Speaker 11 No,
Speaker 11 I know, but
Speaker 5 he can't compete with you.
Speaker 5
He can't compete with you. I disagree, Chad.
I don't know what you guys think, but
Speaker 5 I think he was trying to take a soda shot. Because if he wasn't, why are you trying to clear it up? Why are you trying to clear it up?
Speaker 11 Obviously, once you say something like that, it ruffles all the feathers and then it comes back to you.
Speaker 5 Why are you ruffling feathers, Ocho? It ain't nothing.
Speaker 5 You telling me in the chat.
Speaker 11
His choice of words. His choice of words, it ruffled feathers because that's probably not what he actually meant.
I honestly think it was an honest mistake because he's not.
Speaker 11
Let me stay with me real quick. Let me say something for for you.
Let me say something real quick. He is not media savvy with the mic in front of him like a Tom Brady.
He's not media savvy like a
Speaker 5
quarterback. Absolutely not.
A quarterback at the University of Oregon? No.
Speaker 11
No, he's just not. Because if he was, he wouldn't have said what he said.
There's a way you go about doing things and he hasn't learned it yet. He's not savvy like that yet.
Speaker 5
Sometimes you get caught up in the moment. You play it well.
It's the middle of the game.
Speaker 5 Oh, Joe, you got to realize now you're right there in that moment sometimes when emotion is high logic is low and you feeling good is a i a they're entertainers and i'm a comp and competitors and i'm here to compete
Speaker 5 oh he's like oh
Speaker 5 if he if it meant nothing by that nobody would have nobody would have said anything about it nobody would have thought would not even have thought would not even batter tonight but they
Speaker 5
They took it. Most people took it.
I believe the way he intended it. Right.
Speaker 5
That he's not, he's not fancy. He's not entertaining.
He's a competitor. I don't know what he thinks you're doing there to do.
I believe two things. They're not mutually exclusive.
Speaker 5 Floyd Mayweather was an entertainer, but he was a competitor. Michael Jordan, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, they're entertainers, but they're competitors.
Speaker 5
Steph Curry, all that dancing and turning around, he's shooting shot, and he don't even look at it before it goes in. That's entertainment, but he's a damn fierce competitor.
Yes.
Speaker 5
So to try to make those two things mutually exclusive is just not true. I believe you can do both of them, but I believe he took it.
Me, I could be wrong. And if I'm wrong, I apologize.
Speaker 5 But I believe he took a sort of shot at your door.
Speaker 11 I don't, I'm, and honestly, you want, you want me to tell you the truth? And I mean no disrespect to Delian Hebrew.
Speaker 11 I don't even think he has the balls to be able to say something like that out the blue.
Speaker 11 That's how I know. I mean,
Speaker 11 he doesn't carry himself like that, especially coming out of college. If he was that type of player, if he showed that kind of,
Speaker 11 like if it was think about this think about johnny missile in college right think about yeah mayfield in college right now if it was one of them that said something like that i'd be like yeah he's definitely taking a shot at your dor but he's never shown any signs of being uh
Speaker 5 as brad when has he ever been in competition
Speaker 5 When has he ever been in competition? He wasn't going to beat Justin Herbert out, so he wasn't in competition.
Speaker 5 When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition?
Speaker 5 Yeah, go ahead and sip your tea, coffee, whatever that is.
Speaker 5
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When was the last time Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition?
Speaker 11 I don't even.
Speaker 5 Exactly.
Speaker 5 Because think about it. How many yards has he passed for? Do you know how many, you know how long you got to be in college to pass for the amount of yards that he's passed for?
Speaker 5 Justin Herbert's been in the league. How long? Because didn't he take over Justin Herbert?
Speaker 5 In 2020. So Dylan Gabriel has been in the league, been the starting quarterback since what? 21?
Speaker 5
No, he came from Oklahoma. Didn't Gabriel come from Oklahoma? He transferred from Oklahoma.
So he's been, yeah, he was in that competition.
Speaker 11 He transferred from Oklahoma. Are you telling me he ran from competition?
Speaker 5 No, he ran to the money.
Speaker 11 Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 5 One, two, one.
Speaker 5 Oh, so he started at UCF.
Speaker 5 Oh, he started at UCF for three years. He was two years at Oklahoma, and then he spent one year at
Speaker 5 Oregon.
Speaker 11 Okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay.
Speaker 5
Okay, that's Bo Nicks. That was Bo Nicks.
I apologize. That was Bo Nicks that was there when the coach.
Remember when they played CU, Ocho? In the quarterback,
Speaker 5 what did he say? Instagram, some of them tried to get followers. They tried to get clicks and followers, and we're trying to win football games.
Speaker 11
Oh, that's right. That was the organ coach.
I remember that. I remember that.
Speaker 5
That was an organ coach. But Dylan, I apologize.
That wasn't Dylan Gabriel. That was Bo Nick's that was his quarterback at the time when he said that.
Speaker 11 See, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 5 But you got to, but again, for me, when was the last time Dylan Dylan Gabriel was in a quarterback competition? He was three years at, he was three years at UCF.
Speaker 5
He was two years at Oklahoma and one year at what you saw. So six years.
So in six years of college football
Speaker 5 yeah three years of UCF two years of Oklahoma one year uh how they got the only goddamn time
Speaker 5 man them guys be gotten getting seven and eight years old you see the guy 32
Speaker 5 with a covered year okay so it gave everybody an extra year if you wanted but listen it's obviously what the chat what the chat saying the chat well who did the chat believe he took a shot
Speaker 11 i didn't know i ain't open the phone hold on
Speaker 11 i'm curious to see what the chat would say what the chat would think
Speaker 11 They are saying,
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Speaker 11 uh the chat is saying
Speaker 11 i believe he throwing shade
Speaker 11
I thought football was a brotherhood. I never seen him do that.
Don't need it. He lost a job.
Oh, he lost his job at OU. he got hurt at you
Speaker 11 oh shoot
Speaker 11 well i but it's it look like it's look like it's like a mix it's a mix on how everybody feel go ahead you want something go ahead
Speaker 5 we we put the we placing the poll up i just think the thing here was look and i think the thing is because ocho what it is is normally we don't get this we don't normal normally be interviewing especially if you're playing during the poll it's different now normally they get you they get you know a half you know in the preseason preseason game.
Speaker 5 If you're not playing, they'll get you, hey, can we get a few words? Yeah, but it's exciting, you know, got some work in, knocked up some of the knocked some of the dust and bust off.
Speaker 5
And now it's time for the younger guys and other guys to get an opportunity to know what they can do. I'm sure the coaches are excited about that.
Hopefully, everybody came out injury-free.
Speaker 5 We'll see after the game, so forth and so on.
Speaker 5 But hell, everybody out there to compete.
Speaker 5 I mean, you do realize, like, in pro sports, it's all about, hey, it's all about combat.
Speaker 5 I think, I think whether you're competing in your locker room or you competing against the other locker room but you always in competition hey listen every every week every week yes every day
Speaker 11 you know i i think he understands that that's why i said i'm giving him grace and obviously i think you giving him too much credit
Speaker 11 You giving him too much credit.
Speaker 11 For those of the people that think he was actually taking a shot at Shadur, I think we're giving him too much credit to think he would come out and do something like that publicly or to even slip up or to even, you know,
Speaker 11 I just don't think that's him.
Speaker 5 Oh, 88% said it was a shot, 12% said it was not.
Speaker 11 Well, maybe y'all see it differently.
Speaker 11 Maybe y'all see it different because I wouldn't pay it like that, honestly. You know, I mean, I mean, if you're gonna say something, you know, if
Speaker 11 there's no address on it,
Speaker 11 it don't have no destination.
Speaker 11
If there's no address on it, it doesn't have a destination. So I'm not, I'm not throwing no hints and doing no riddles.
This ain't, you know, Dr. Seuss or cat in the hat.
If you really didn't.
Speaker 5 How about this here?
Speaker 5 Coming out, how many front office people you think said exactly what Dylan Gabriel said?
Speaker 5 He's more into entertainment and doing all this and all those antics than competing.
Speaker 11 Okay.
Speaker 11 Listen, I'm picking. Hey, listen, I'm picking up what you're putting down now.
Speaker 11 Now you're making a little sense to me.
Speaker 5 I'm picking up what you're putting down.
Speaker 11 I i don't like that because that i i i don't like that because that's a part of the game it's always been a part of the game it's never been a part of the game at that specific position though
Speaker 11 cool at that specific position is frowned upon
Speaker 11 they know always buttoned up always because when you pick that position and you pay them the kind of money you pay him not only you're representing the shield you're representing the team and the organization as well you are the face of a franchise decade more yes so i understand right now okay i'm with you now i'm with you i'm with you um
Speaker 5 you look at his dad he was the ultimate entertainer
Speaker 5 but was one of the most one of the fiercest competitors
Speaker 5 he believed that you know what prime time that's what you paid to see
Speaker 5
you paid me to see All the antics that, you know, hey, get it up. You know, he danced it before they punt him or kicked the ball to him.
He got the ball up behind. he got his hand behind his head.
Speaker 5 I got to entertain y'all.
Speaker 5 It ain't good enough for me to just get a pick.
Speaker 5
It ain't good enough. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
That's not enough.
Speaker 5 You can get anybody can do that.
Speaker 5
I want to be outgoing. I want to be braggadocious.
Thank you. I want you to know who and what I am.
Speaker 11 That sounds familiar. Hey, that sounds familiar, don't it?
Speaker 5 Yeah.
Speaker 5 The stats, week one, Shadur was 14 of 23, 157, two touchdowns. Dylan Gabriel was 13 of 18, 144
Speaker 5 with,
Speaker 5
oh, total yards, total yards. Okay.
157, total yards, 144 for Gabriel.
Speaker 5 Shadur had two touchdowns, no turnovers.
Speaker 5 And Dylan Gabriel had no touchdowns and two turnovers. He had a pick and a fumble.
Speaker 5 Look,
Speaker 5 I thought he played, like you said, I thought he played a good game with the exception of the turnover, that bad interception.
Speaker 5 But do you know the thing I noticed? The first thing I say, I see, damn, he tiny.
Speaker 11
He's small. He's small.
And you think he's like, oh, my God.
Speaker 5 Baker height.
Speaker 5 No, hell no. He wish you, man.
Speaker 5 Bad, huh?
Speaker 5 They list him at 5'11.
Speaker 5 5'10.
Speaker 11 Bryce Young is
Speaker 11
about the same. So obviously.
the fans key and the way that they would run a completely different offense if they had Dylan Gabriel starting as opposed to Shador.
Speaker 5 Yeah, you got to roll him out because he's small. You need to put him outside so he can see
Speaker 5 clean. You got to roll the pocket.
Speaker 11 You got to roll the pocket. Or, boom, have him in the goddamn gun all the time.
Speaker 11 One is the other. But if Baker if Baker Mayfield could be successful doing it, obviously
Speaker 11 of the weaponry around him, I mean, shoot, he should be able to be able to succeed as well.
Speaker 5 Yeah, Baker, man.
Speaker 5
I don't think people give Baker enough credit. Baker is a really good thrower of the football.
You don't win the Heisman Trophy like he did. Get that team to the college football playoff.
Speaker 5 And now that he's in a system and now he's with coaches that allows him to be Baker. He's been to Pro Bowls.
Speaker 5 Baker is a better throw of the football
Speaker 5 than I think we give him credit for or we gave him credit for, especially now that he's in a system and he's with coaches that believe in him and will allow him to be himself.
Speaker 5 We'll see.
Speaker 5
Look, Dylan Gabriel did throw four ton of yards. I will not take that away from him.
Over 16,000 yards. I mean, helly played six years, so he's.
Speaker 5
I mean, damn. I'm like you, Ocho.
Like, damn, six years.
Speaker 11 I ain't nothing.
Speaker 5 So, how old is he? If he played six years, he got to be like 24.
Speaker 11 I don't know how that was possible.
Speaker 5 No, oh, yeah, no, they got
Speaker 5 he's 24, Ocho.
Speaker 5 I was, I was 21. I turned 22 after I got drafted.
Speaker 5 So he already, I mean, so,
Speaker 5 hell, he Bryce Young age.
Speaker 5
He might be older than Bryce. Yeah, he's Bryce Young's age.
It's got to be Bryce Young's age.
Speaker 11
Damn. Hey, that's, that's funny.
That's, that's funny. Like,
Speaker 11 I'm baffled. I'm appalled.
Speaker 5
You baffled. Hold on.
Let me see what you're baffled. Are you baffled that he played six years and he's 24?
Speaker 5 Or are you baffled that the chat believes along with that i believe that he was taking she was throwing shade or taking a shot at she
Speaker 11 both or all of the above or some of the above the above because honestly i think y'all y'all get y'all giving the motherfucker oh dog it y'all giving somebody too much credit you're giving too much credit too much credit to say i'm gonna be brash enough to sit here and talk about someone um that is on my team and take a shot not
Speaker 11 And then, you know,
Speaker 11 that's giving him too much credit as if he's a mastermind and a media savvy and knowing how to navigate.
Speaker 5
That's the point. He didn't think about it.
He didn't think clearly enough. Sometimes, Ocho, sometimes we have to be careful of what we say around others because guess what?
Speaker 5 We get on here or we get on TV and then something that we talking about in the barbershop or we talking about
Speaker 5 it'll come out.
Speaker 5 Because sometimes you forget where you are.
Speaker 11 Yeah,
Speaker 11 I think, listen.
Speaker 11 Young bull played, he played, he played well outside of
Speaker 11 interception for six and the fumble, in which it wasn't his fault on the fumble because the guy, I'm looking at the replay. I'm trying to figure out why the running back ain't got a goddamn man.
Speaker 11 Opi arm, what is you doing?
Speaker 11 He looking, he's looking straight ahead instead of, you know, like, come on, man, tighten up, man. But outside of that, listen, hey, who they play next week?
Speaker 21 Who do Browns play?
Speaker 11 It's the last thing.
Speaker 11 You ain't got to tell me twice.
Speaker 11 I heard you before you even.
Speaker 5 And they normally play on, they're probably going gonna play on thursday right
Speaker 5 saturday they play saturday
Speaker 11 play saturday against the rounds listen all hands on deck
Speaker 11 all hands on deck i'm not sure what they're gonna do
Speaker 11 i'm not sure what they're gonna do i'm excited
Speaker 11 i'm excited because i love i love a healthy competition
Speaker 11 I love a healthy competition.
Speaker 5 I don't believe they're keeping all these quarterbacks. I don't know, Joe.
Speaker 11 Well, hey, listen, they're there. I mean,
Speaker 11 the Saints, never mind. I ain't going to do that.
Speaker 11
I ain't going to be rude. I'm not going to be rude.
I'm not going to be rude.
Speaker 5 Do you believe they're going to keep all these quarterbacks?
Speaker 11
Honestly, I'm going to be honest with you. You played the game a very long time.
I played the game a very long time.
Speaker 11
I can't remember a scenario. where there were four quarterbacks on the team.
I can remember every scenario. There was always three
Speaker 11 always three so if there was an odd man out to me
Speaker 11 thinking
Speaker 11 uh
Speaker 11 it would be you'd be sick if there was going to be one and that's simply maybe because of the injury right now and not being able to showcase not being able to showcase much
Speaker 11 you know and there's no disrespect to kenny you know you had opportunity at pittsburgh obviously in philly there's no you there's no way you're going to start in front of jalen hurts but i mean
Speaker 11 why would they why would they not keep yes baby yeah
Speaker 11 i agree i i think wait till the food comes for your food your chicken nuggets okay
Speaker 5 four quarterbacks
Speaker 5 new england kept four quarterbacks in 2000 but it's a different time now coach belichick said he was worried that if he released tom somebody would sign it and that's exactly what would have happened And you got to say, and you would have to sign him to the active, they would sign him to the active roster.
Speaker 5 So he didn't want to run that risk. So
Speaker 5 they stashed four quarterbacks.
Speaker 5 But I agree with you. And
Speaker 5 this situation, the way it's currently constructed, I don't see a scenario where you keep four active quarterbacks. Now, you might have two quarterbacks and one as a practice squad guy.
Speaker 5
And then, you know, let's just say, for the sake of argument, somebody gets nicked. You might bring him up.
You might elevate it.
Speaker 5 But to have four active quarterbacks,
Speaker 5 and that means you're going to probably have to go without a wide receiver or a swing offensive lineman or a rotational defensive lineman or a cornerback.
Speaker 5 And one of those, and those guys are guys that can play special teams. Those are the guys that can play the punt, punt, return, kick, kick, return.
Speaker 5 Your quarterback's not doing that.
Speaker 5 And so basically, if you keep that many positions,
Speaker 5 He can only he's only playing one position, where the other guys that I mentioned, the other positions, can play two positions.
Speaker 5 So, because normally your guy that can play the guard, he can play the tackle if need be.
Speaker 5 He can play the D tackle, he can play the DN, but he could also be on field goal, field goal block, things of that nature.
Speaker 11
Wide receiver. We're talking about, we don't know who they're going to take.
Hell, let's play goddamn devil's advocate then.
Speaker 11 Let's play devil's advocate.
Speaker 11 Hamzam already said what he got to say.
Speaker 11 Andrew Berry knows that he's a genius in being able to get Shadura in the fifth round.
Speaker 11 you stefanski
Speaker 11 who you want
Speaker 5 whoever has limb won't
Speaker 11 damn
Speaker 11 you for real
Speaker 5 yeah
Speaker 11 wait as a as as a as a coach
Speaker 11 as a head coach you're going to choose just because of whatever personal vendetta has may have to say some of the things he said you're going to put your job on the the line for somebody you know isn't better than the person that he doesn't want.
Speaker 5 If that man said, let me ask you a question: when you got your, did you ever get, did you ever get a physical copy of your check, or was your money always directed?
Speaker 11 But I got the uh, I went upstairs and always got the physical.
Speaker 5 I'll tell you what, when you went to OTAs and you got those with those deposited, because last I checked, when I got my check, it always said the Denver Broncos Football Club,
Speaker 5 and
Speaker 5
that thing to the left it said Pat D. Bowie.
Okay.
Speaker 5
That thing said the Cleveland Browns Football Club. Jimmy, probably Jimmy and D.
Hasler.
Speaker 5 Now, you want to ask me that again? Which one do I want?
Speaker 5
I got you. Okay.
I got you. You know what?
Speaker 11 Okay. The fact that I sat here and forgot the person that said what he said and the position of power that they were in,
Speaker 11 my bad. You're right.
Speaker 5 Yeah.
Speaker 5 Yeah.
Speaker 11 But yeah, maybe that's the problem. You know, can I ask you a question?
Speaker 11 With my lack of knowledge and knowing Mr. Hasn't like that, how long has he been?
Speaker 5 He brought it from the learner. I think he brought it from.
Speaker 5 He's been there probably, what, 15 years, Ash? I think he's on the Browns for about 15 years. He's on there for a minute.
Speaker 11 So he's been there 15 years.
Speaker 5 At least.
Speaker 11 A few years later, they're still looking for a what?
Speaker 5 QB.
Speaker 11
But we supposed to take it. Okay, don't worry about it.
You're right.
Speaker 5 13 years.
Speaker 5 So he's been there since 2012
Speaker 5 from the Lerner family, right?
Speaker 11 But we're supposed to take his work.
Speaker 5 Okay.
Speaker 5 Well,
Speaker 5 Joe, I mean,
Speaker 5 in the Lemony Snickets series, a series of unfortunate events happened. You know, they thought they had the quarterback.
Speaker 5 I went to the movie movie with Jim Carrey.
Speaker 5 My daughter,
Speaker 5
she's read it. She read the whole series.
That's what she got for Christmas one year.
Speaker 5 They thought they had their quarterback, but it was a series of unfortunate events that, you know, shoulder Achilles and things of that nature.
Speaker 5
But it's not easy. It's not easy finding a quarterback.
Actually, it might be the hardest thing to do in professional sports.
Speaker 11 It is. I think, you know what?
Speaker 11 Can I say something real quick?
Speaker 11 Just say something real quick. I'm going to give you the three hardest things in life to do.
Speaker 11
Hey, chat, y'all write this down too, chat. I'm going to give y'all two seconds to grab a pen.
The three hardest things in life to do.
Speaker 11 Number one:
Speaker 11 is the NFL team finding a quarterback
Speaker 11 that can be a franchise quarterback for 10 years or more? Okay, that's one.
Speaker 11 Number two,
Speaker 11 trying to hit a baseball coming at you 95 miles an hour on a consistent basis.
Speaker 11 That's two.
Speaker 5 Three. Okay.
Speaker 11 Try keeping a woman happy long term
Speaker 11 outside of the honeymoon phase.
Speaker 5 How do you say that last one?
Speaker 11
Them three hardest things to do in life. Now you got some, you got some, some couples, you know, they be 15.
Oh, we've been doing this 15, 17 years. Yeah,
Speaker 11
yeah, pretending. You ain't fooling me.
You smile, but the picture, you're behind closed doors, you're arguing. I can't stand you.
Speaker 11 Don't get me started. Listen, I sat next to a married couple today.
Speaker 11 They've been married 32 years. So I was nosy.
Speaker 5 I don't mean
Speaker 5 you had to ask them how y'all been together that long.
Speaker 11 I had to be nosy. I say, well, out of the 32 years you've been married, how many of those years have y'all been happy?
Speaker 11 You want to know how many years of those, how many of those years she's been happy? Or they've been happy together?
Speaker 5 How many?
Speaker 11 The first three.
Speaker 5 I don't think any couple can say they've been happy. They're days.
Speaker 5 If a couple tell you they've been married 10 years, 15 years, 20 years, that they've been happy all the year, no, they're days. Now, there are more days that I'm happy that I'm sad or disappointed.
Speaker 5 I think.
Speaker 11
See, they got in depth. I just don't have that kind of time because I don't want to switch topics because we on football.
I was just using that analogy and just
Speaker 11 bringing in context to it.
Speaker 11 And he said, the husband said to me and the wife,
Speaker 11 they were in agreeance and I was enjoying it. It was like I was a therapist.
Speaker 11 And I said, they said the honeymoon phase lasted for three years in the marriage. And after that,
Speaker 11 we have just been,
Speaker 11 I forgot the word she used. She used the word when you just, gosh, I forgot words she used.
Speaker 11 Working, cohabitating.
Speaker 11
That's the word. We're just cohabitating.
And I don't want to start over. And I refuse to deal with anyone else.
So we, we, it, and it's lasted 32 years. I'm like, well, God, well, god damn.
Speaker 11 Well, congratulations to y'all. But can I tell you what I got from that?
Speaker 11 What? I don't care. Because I'm getting married anyway.
Speaker 5 I think the thing is, Ocho, and you see this a lot. I mean, you see a lot of couples do this.
Speaker 5
Their kids get out of high school. The kids graduate college.
What do they do? They split. They go to same school.
Speaker 5 Because sometimes, because sometimes they look at it like, well, we ain't really got anything else to be together for. Now the kids grown.
Speaker 11 Hey, you think people stay together? You think people stay together when they're not?
Speaker 5
Yeah, for sure. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Yes.
Yes.
Speaker 5 Yeah. What?
Speaker 11 Hey, you're not talking, not our people. You're talking about the other side.
Speaker 5 So you ain't going to.
Speaker 5 Sometimes our people need to stay together, but I'm saying, yes, people stay together for kids. Hey, hey.
Speaker 5 sometimes sometimes it's e sometimes it's easier to stay together because you know you can pool your money together it's going to be much harder apart
Speaker 5 um
Speaker 5 you see this a lot in in in the professional settings
Speaker 5 what what women will tolerate in a professional setting when the money oh yeah yeah hey
Speaker 11 listen come on and
Speaker 11 the
Speaker 11 the longer the money that no no no wait wait hey baby what you doing? Hold on, I'll plug it up for you. Hold on, she done, I'm plugged my turn my lights off.
Speaker 11
The longer the money, the longer the leash. It's always been that way.
And if, and if, and if you,
Speaker 11 depending on how serious it is,
Speaker 11 the longer you're with you, and if you happen to marry them,
Speaker 11 and then they're, oh no, no, you're good. What you're crying for?
Speaker 12 Oh, my goodness.
Speaker 11
No, you're good. You're good.
I'm going to plug it up. The longer you with them and they ready to leave, as long as they're taking something with them, they're taking something with them.
Speaker 11 They're not leaving without it, not without that lifestyle.
Speaker 5 Right.
Speaker 11 Yeah, I mean, you know, Haggle.
Speaker 11
The game is the game. It's always been the game.
You got to learn how to play it, man. That's all.
Come on. You want to charge him?
Speaker 5 So
Speaker 5 Shador, week one, 14 of 23. He had 157 total yards, two touchdowns, zero interceptions.
Speaker 5 Dylan Gabriel, week two, 13 of 18, 144 total yards, zero for two, zero touchdowns, two turnovers, big six, and a fumble that was credited to him. So,
Speaker 5 and after the game, Stefanski would like, he refused to, like,
Speaker 5 you know, I'm not doing this evaluation. Well, who played this or who did better than that? We'll go back, we'll look at the film, and we'll do our proper evaluation.
Speaker 5 And we'll, you know, it'll be interesting to see, chat,
Speaker 5 when they hit the field on Monday or Tuesday, when they're back at a regular practice,
Speaker 5 what is the Scottish, what is the
Speaker 5 sequence?
Speaker 5 One, two, three, four.
Speaker 5 What's the slot? Where are they slotted? Where are the quarterbacks slotted?
Speaker 5 Maybe that tells us something. Maybe that tells us nothing.
Speaker 5 We don't know.
Speaker 5 Who starts
Speaker 5 week three?
Speaker 5 How much playing time do they get? Do does he get in week three?
Speaker 5 It's going to be very, very interesting to see
Speaker 5 their eval, their valuation from week one to week two.
Speaker 5 I'm sure there are some things both guys did extremely, really well, some things they would like to have back. I'm sure the coaches give them
Speaker 5 a rundown of what they would like to have seen them do, what they'd like to see them do better.
Speaker 5 But overall, I think both guys played extremely well and should feel proud of the performance that they're doing.
Speaker 11
I'm excited. I'm excited.
I'm excited to see what happens. I wouldn't want to be, I wouldn't want to be Browns personnel.
Speaker 11 I wouldn't want to be be safanski because listen depending on who they pick and who they choose the backlash that they're going to get it's going to be crazy it's going to it's going to crazy i'm not
Speaker 5 i'm not sure if stefansky has any control over the fifth
Speaker 11 well honestly if he does how is the head coach not going to have control over who he's going to put out there on the field and he's the one got to coach them
Speaker 5 easy
Speaker 5 you think you think you think brian schotenheimer had control of the final 53 in dallas
Speaker 5 you think mccarthy got the circus?
Speaker 11 That's a different circus.
Speaker 5 Are we trying to win? Are we trying to win?
Speaker 11 It's a difference.
Speaker 5 You have to like come in with, you have to be Andy Reed to get
Speaker 5 Mike Tomlin. You got to put some years, unless you're like highly sought after.
Speaker 5 Now,
Speaker 5 yeah,
Speaker 5 Sean McFay,
Speaker 5 Kyle Shanahan.
Speaker 11
You're naming all the coaches. They're allowed to pick the players they want because they're successful.
Do you know why they're successful? Because of the players that they have.
Speaker 5 They're successful because ownership let them
Speaker 5 stay out of their business. I got you.
Speaker 11 I got.
Speaker 11
Go Google. That's your food.
That's your food.
Speaker 5 Jim Harbaugh. Right.
Speaker 11 Oh, yeah. He's another one.
Speaker 11 They're consistent winners, no matter where they are.
Speaker 5 And
Speaker 5 he came so sought after. So you have to give up something besides money in order to tice him to leave the University of Michigan.
Speaker 5 Ben Johnson
Speaker 5
came highly touted. He was offensive coordinator for the Lions, the Bears.
You got to give him something to get him to leave besides money.
Speaker 5 And
Speaker 5 so
Speaker 5 it's going to be very, very interesting to see how this thing shapes up for the Cleveland Browns.
Speaker 5 But I don't believe, Chad, I don't believe there's no way all four of these quarterbacks are on the roster, the active roster, opening day.
Speaker 5 We could find out a little bit more because there might be a situation where Kenny Pickett doesn't even take a snap in the regular season.
Speaker 5 And
Speaker 5 it's going to be interesting.
Speaker 5 That's all I can say. Because like I said, it'd have been interesting to see if all these quarterbacks were healthy.
Speaker 5 Excuse me. If Shadur starts,
Speaker 5 if Pickett was healthy, would Pickett have started?
Speaker 5 We don't know and we won't ever know because guess what? The game's over with and who started is who started. But I don't believe opening day, all four of these quarterbacks are on the active roster.
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Speaker 5 Ocho, Anthony Richardson Sr. saw his most extensive preseason action yet after sustaining a dislocated finger in week one against the Ravens.
Speaker 5 Richardson completed six of 11 passes for 73 yards, but his numbers were undermined by penalties. He started five of six for 64 yards, leading a 90-yard touchdown drive with crisp passes.
Speaker 5 Offensive penalties derailed the next two possessions,
Speaker 5 including negating a 38-yard completion. Daniel Jones
Speaker 5 started the game and led a field-goal drive, completing 7 of 11 for 101 yards. Colts head coach Shane Steichen strongly suggested after the game that a decision is imminent
Speaker 5
in his team's month-long quarterback battle. I've seen obviously three weeks of it, so I like to have a decision here shortly.
I'm very close. I'll say that.
I'm very, very close.
Speaker 5 Ocho,
Speaker 5 who's week one starter?
Speaker 11 I mean,
Speaker 11 honestly, the way it's looking, you know, it's Daniel Jones. It's Daniel Jones.
Speaker 11 I think even if even if Anthony Richardson's finger hadn't gotten hurt, I think that's what they wanted to go with all along anyway. I think there have been issues there with him the first two years.
Speaker 11 Obviously, they haven't seen the improvement necessary, especially with year three
Speaker 11 always being
Speaker 11
the maker break year. And he knows any improvement.
I'm assuming so, especially with the way that the coach is talking, I don't like it. Then you signed Daniel Jones.
Speaker 11 one year 14 million that much one year they definitely they definitely were going in the other direction regardless of what anthony richard would have done in camp or what he would have done in the game yep like how much better are you going to be from the first two years coming into the third
Speaker 11 there's only so much there's only so much work i mean it's it's not going to be a miracle you you look a certain way year one you look a certain way year two and then all of a sudden year three you're going to come back and just be oh my goodness
Speaker 5 i'm in a clock yeah but that's what they were expecting they were expecting they were spec they were expecting uh a monumental jump because ocho you in your third year in the system okay understandable understandable and he got hit in the face with a blitz that he should have got hit in the face with as a rookie not as a third year vet right
Speaker 5 And so, look, like I said, Ocho, we're not there. Chad, if I was there, if I was there and observe in practice, I'd be able to tell you who I think should be the starting quarterback.
Speaker 5 But unfortunately, the only thing I can do is based it on what we've seen thus far. And look, and I don't think it's like
Speaker 5 it's a situation where like, oh, this is, oh, this is etched in stone.
Speaker 5 I don't think it's one of those situations. What you want?
Speaker 5 But I think it's a situation where, you know, like you said, at some point in time, you're going to have to give one of these guys the majority of the reps, So, yo, you can't keep splitting.
Speaker 11
You already know where they're going. You know the game they're playing.
You knew the game they were playing when they brought Daniel Jones in for that amount of money.
Speaker 11 For that amount of money on a one-year deal. I already knew the game they were playing.
Speaker 11 What, baby?
Speaker 11 Okay, okay. I'm going to call Papa for you.
Speaker 11 She's what she wants.
Speaker 5
So you got Daniel Jones. This is interesting.
Chad, y'all think it's going to be Daniel Jones, or y'all think it's going to be Anthony Richardson Sr.
Speaker 5 It's not like either one of the guys just blowing you away. I mean, she, where are you?
Speaker 11 You, you, up, you upstairs?
Speaker 11 Yeah, yeah, she's uh, she's
Speaker 11 all right. I'm gonna just come
Speaker 11 come to 1417
Speaker 11 1417.
Speaker 12 All right, I want to see
Speaker 11 all right. Papa coming to get you
Speaker 11 because you're not letting daddy work, daddy working.
Speaker 12 You want you want to move?
Speaker 5 She said, I don't get to see daddy that much to begin with, so I don't care about you working.
Speaker 5 Now that's what I think about you working.
Speaker 5 Oh, here here it is oh my coming okay they played they played the uh they played the uh packers today hey uh you you were you were you able to watch all the games
Speaker 5 no yeah
Speaker 5 hey they need they need to they need to put the games on one channel well first of all first of all oh joe you know it's the preseason so basically you're going to get only the only the you'll be able to watch the local game
Speaker 5 uh
Speaker 5 so
Speaker 5 but i guess you know they they got it they're going to have it
Speaker 5 where you'll be able to uh once you play, pay all that money.
Speaker 5 It's gonna cost you about two thousand dollars to watch all the games. That much,
Speaker 5 and you know,
Speaker 5 yeah, you got to get every streaming service.
Speaker 11 My everything is not everything is on one service now,
Speaker 11 right? Or am I tripping? I thought that was the whole point.
Speaker 21 You tripping,
Speaker 5 you tripping.
Speaker 11 Oh man.
Speaker 11 I'm excited, bro.
Speaker 5 So, Daniel Jones started the game, huh?
Speaker 5 Or Ed the Richardson started the game.
Speaker 11 I think Daniel Jones did start.
Speaker 11 Hey,
Speaker 5
one with 7 of 11 for 101 yards. Edward Richardson was 6 of 11 for 73 yards.
I think that's Riley Leonard with 7 of 12 for 64 yards.
Speaker 5
David Jones started. He started.
Okay, he started game two. Anthony Richardson started game one.
Okay.
Speaker 11 So they went back and forth to make sure each person got the opportunity.
Speaker 5 And he says, yeah,
Speaker 5 he says,
Speaker 5
I've seen obviously three weeks of it. So I like to have a decision here shortly.
And I'm very close. I'll say that.
I'm very close. I think he's seen enough.
Speaker 11 Damn.
Speaker 5 I think he's, I think he has his mind made up that who he wants to start.
Speaker 5 I'm leaning towards you.
Speaker 11 Say,
Speaker 5 why bring a guy? Why bring a guy in to make $14 million and to have him to be the backup?
Speaker 11 Totally.
Speaker 11 Totally. I mean,
Speaker 5 it's not like Daniel Jones had his pick of choice of where he's going to. I mean, not for that kind of money.
Speaker 11 Absolutely not. But that lets you know
Speaker 11 how in dire need of a quarterback that the Colts were.
Speaker 11 You saw what you saw. You saw what you saw in New York and say, you know what, we're going to bring you in to compete.
Speaker 11 Because we don't think our quarterback going into year three has figured it out just yet. But hell, you didn't figure it out when you were
Speaker 11 in New York, but we think you're going to come here. And all of a sudden, something's supposed to change.
Speaker 11 So two wrongs don't make it right.
Speaker 5 Twofolds. i think they really want because if they bring a quarterback in for a million let's just say for the sake of argument they bring a backup in and they're gonna pay him four million dollars
Speaker 5 you're not gonna take that serious man i ain't going on no bench for no guy making 14 for 4 million you bring a guy in making 14 14
Speaker 11 now you know they seriously sitting on the bench i can tell you that
Speaker 11
14 is not sitting on the bench. They talk about quarterback controversy.
They talk about quarterback battle.
Speaker 11 There is no quarterback battle if the quarterback coming from another team makes that kind of money on a one-year deal.
Speaker 5 He probably making more than Anthony Richardson this year. What's Anthony Richardson base salary?
Speaker 11 Only in his third year, huh? It's not that much.
Speaker 5
Yeah, because he got a ball. His contract is fully guaranteed, but he got probably the most of his money on the signing bonus.
So he probably got $25 million on the signing bonus, don't you?
Speaker 5 So Anthony Richardson probably making what $8 million this year? It was $34 guaranteed for the 22.
Speaker 5 right 225 cash
Speaker 5 four million
Speaker 5 yeah
Speaker 5 you make it 3.8 you know what so one guy making 3.8 million the other guy making 14 million do you think they're gonna put the guy that's on that's making 14 million on the mint you know what you know what i don't like though
Speaker 5 hold on is the is his money guaranteed did they guarantee his money
Speaker 5 no
Speaker 5 jones yo he don't anthro richardson got 34 million guaranteed he had his money guaranteed he gonna get he got 22 million assignments so he gonna get that final 12. you know what
Speaker 11 i'm mad because anthony anthony richardson on
Speaker 11 is supposed to be
Speaker 11 like josh allen let me
Speaker 11 let me get this out go ahead anthony richards is supposed to be like josh allen anthony richardson is supposed to be like
Speaker 11 our new version of cam newton
Speaker 11 Like, I guess the kind of potential
Speaker 11 in
Speaker 11 like, I don't know at what point what went wrong or what's happened if he's not focused, if he's not locked in. After this year,
Speaker 11 after this year,
Speaker 11 Anthony Richardson is supposed to be going to the table for one of those $250, $300 million deals.
Speaker 5 Yes, I agree.
Speaker 11 That is
Speaker 5 what
Speaker 11 I saw in him coming out of Florida. Based on the eye testing, what I'm looking at, all the intangibles, does everything right, except the mistake.
Speaker 5 I didn't see that.
Speaker 5 I was shocked.
Speaker 5 I was shocked that he moved up the draft boards. I like, but see, Ocho, go back and watch the tape.
Speaker 11 Right,
Speaker 5 you see, you see what happened? Now, you see how some people watch tape, and then somebody goes by the combine.
Speaker 5 If you look at his, if you didn't know anything about it, and all you did was watch the combine, you understand. Now, go back and watch this tape in Florida.
Speaker 11 hey well yeah you you did tell me that you did tell me that
Speaker 5 go back go back go back and watch his tape tell me that
Speaker 11 but if every
Speaker 5 but those measurables were so hard to pass up though ocho 6-4 245 running 4-4 can throw the ball 80 yards which is what which is what i said with the measurable you take the measurables right the reason that they went up to go grab him in the draft and if the measurables
Speaker 11 put up with the play on the field after this year three season, they coming to see you. You finna tear the house down.
Speaker 11 You're gonna tear the house down.
Speaker 11
That's how I'm visualizing it. And I can't believe, I don't know at what point.
And if you don't get it here, and if you get beat out by brother Daniel Jones,
Speaker 5 yeah,
Speaker 11 then
Speaker 11 a day like that, like in what I'm visualizing, if if I was Anthony Richardson, it's not happening.
Speaker 11 It's not happening.
Speaker 5 Yeah,
Speaker 5
they're not bringing Daniel Jones in. Because I'm going to do it.
You do everything. You do what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 5
You're not the last in in the first out. So that's it.
That's it, but that sent a bad message there, Ocho.
Speaker 11 I don't know, man. You think maybe his focus is somewhere else and not just.
Speaker 5
Don't start me lying. I don't know enough about it.
I don't know enough about it.
Speaker 11 I like young bull, man. I like young bull.
Speaker 11 I hope things work out for him over there, man.
Speaker 5 You got to get it together, man.
Speaker 5 You got to have the coaches to trust you. You got to have the player your team is to respect you.
Speaker 11 Yeah, bring daddy the phone.
Speaker 12 Hurry.
Speaker 11
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Bring it here.
Speaker 11 Hello.
Speaker 5 Hello.
Speaker 11 Yes.
Speaker 11 Yes, please.
Speaker 5
Giants rookie first-round draft pick Jackson Dart through two preseason games. Game one against the Bills, 12 of 19, 154, one touchdown.
Today against the Jets.
Speaker 5 14 of 16, 137, one passing touchdown, one rushing touchdowns, zero interceptions. Head coach Brian Dayball asked if Jackson Dart could take starting job for Russell Wilson.
Speaker 5 Russell Russ is our starting quarterback. We're going to keep developing Jackson.
Speaker 5 I do see a scenario, Jackson Dart starts the season as the number two quarterback.
Speaker 11
Absolutely. And Jameis the number three, because I don't think there is a number four.
The fact that they're keeping all three of them is a really good thing because Jackson Dart has two.
Speaker 5 You think they keep all four? You think they keep all three?
Speaker 11 Absolutely.
Speaker 11
You think the the giants letting Jameis go? Absolutely not. Jameis is a good veteran, even if he's not on the field.
Good locker room presence, a good locker room presence.
Speaker 11 Don't fall.
Speaker 5 Yeah, great locker presence. How much, how much, how much money does uh Jameis have guaranteed?
Speaker 11 Wait, wait, get her iPad
Speaker 11 and her in her shoes.
Speaker 11 Make it the shoes.
Speaker 11 No, that's my charger, Papa.
Speaker 11 That's my charger. Okay.
Speaker 12 Yeah, I got her charger.
Speaker 21 Come on, you don't need to put them on. We're walking out.
Speaker 5 Two year, nine million, right?
Speaker 5 Two million.
Speaker 11 Give your daddy a kiss. Come here.
Speaker 11 Give me a kiss while you finish. You keep interrupting.
Speaker 11 I'm just
Speaker 11 gonna chat. No, you're good.
Speaker 11 Say bye, say bye. Bye.
Speaker 5 Love you. Bye-bye.
Speaker 11 I love you.
Speaker 5 Love you too.
Speaker 11 All right, okay.
Speaker 11
Now we can talk. We can talk.
We can talk. We can go.
No more interruptions.
Speaker 5 Ocho, what happened?
Speaker 11 What, what, what happened?
Speaker 5 I'm trying to like,
Speaker 5 I mean,
Speaker 5 looking at it, Russ is the starter.
Speaker 5
You're developing Jackson Dart. Last week, he started number three.
This week he starts number two.
Speaker 11
I wouldn't look into that. You're looking too much into it.
You're looking too much into it.
Speaker 11 I think the ball
Speaker 11 they have their mind made up that they're going to allow him to develop and allow him to sit back. Michael Vick, when he played, he sat back.
Speaker 11 I think rookies not being thrown to the Wolves, some are good at it.
Speaker 5
No, no, no. No, Russ is the starter.
I don't think Russ starts.
Speaker 5 No, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 5 I'm looking at the situation with Jackson. Oh, he's not going nowhere.
Speaker 11 He's not going nowhere. Damn, OG.
Speaker 11 They're going to keep three quarterbacks. Jackson Dart will more so, obviously, be developing, and he would be the practice squad quarterback.
Speaker 11 I don't think they're throwing young Bull out there to the Wolves like that as a rookie.
Speaker 5 no i'm not saying that he's not starting russ starting russ is going to be the day one starter
Speaker 5 but if russ is the day one starter and then you have a rookie as the backup do you really keep the veteran as the third guy
Speaker 5 That's what I'm
Speaker 5 asking. Absolutely.
Speaker 11 Because the third guy that you're keeping is more valuable than just being on the goddamn, excuse me, than just being on the field.
Speaker 11 He adds more value outside of just being on the field as a starting quarterback.
Speaker 11 You don't let a locker room presence like that go. You just don't.
Speaker 5 They do it all the time.
Speaker 11 But there's only one Jameis Winston. No.
Speaker 5 I know.
Speaker 5
And they let him go in New Orleans when he's more than that. They let him go in Cleveland.
when he was more than that
Speaker 5 so
Speaker 5 it's not it's not like it used to be, Ocho, because the salaries are exploding so much. And you used to be able to keep a better guy.
Speaker 11 Because the numbers were low.
Speaker 11 The numbers were low. They were favorable.
Speaker 5
They were favorable. Yes.
Yeah, okay.
Speaker 15 Yes.
Speaker 11
I got you. I got you.
You're right.
Speaker 5
But it's going to be very interesting. But I've been very, very impressed with Jackson Dart through the first two weeks.
Justin Fields and the passing offense were out of sync today.
Speaker 5 Fields completed his first throw, then finished with five straight incompletions in two series. Fields went 003 when targeted and wide out Garrett Wilson, his old buddy from Ohio State.
Speaker 5 The lack of a legit wide receiver, number two, to compliment
Speaker 5 Wilson is one of the reasons why they're not clicking.
Speaker 5 I don't know why they didn't go get another receiver, OJ.
Speaker 11 Wait, who's the number two in New York?
Speaker 5 Alan Lazard, is he hurt?
Speaker 11 Chad, who's the number two in New York?
Speaker 11 Wait, matter of fact, you got Brees Hall and
Speaker 11 what's Alan's first name?
Speaker 11 God, what's Alan's first name? Maybe Derrick Henry.
Speaker 11 Bray Lawrence.
Speaker 11 It's Josh Reynolds.
Speaker 5 Josh Reynolds and Alan Lazard.
Speaker 11 Josh Reynolds, Josh reynolds josh reynolds you remember josh reynolds used to play with the rams he was in detroit okay okay okay okay okay okay okay
Speaker 11 i mean i i mean
Speaker 11 i like it
Speaker 5 but you know what ojo when you that dog and they gave you 30 million damn what's on the other side
Speaker 5 go get open
Speaker 5 they play you 30 million
Speaker 5 when you the number one
Speaker 5 you get no excuse
Speaker 5 no not not
Speaker 11
that kind of money. No, you're number one for a reason.
Nope. You're a number one because two, three, and four can't do what you can do.
Speaker 5 Right.
Speaker 11 I don't think that, I don't, I don't think, but was getting open the issue? It wasn't the issue. It's just the passes might have been.
Speaker 5
Well, I saw two routes. He ran a stop route.
Guy was right there. I think he ran another route.
The guy was, you know. See, that's why
Speaker 11
that's why I'm like them damn joint practices. Stuff like that.
You done seen it all week.
Speaker 11 You done seen it all week.
Speaker 11 You know it's coming formation recognition knowing the count knowing where i'm lining up understanding i'm gonna split and you know it's coming so you're gonna sit there and cheat i don't i don't like that i don't like that because garrett wilson is a route runner i don't know paid attention attention to him he's a route he's a route runner
Speaker 11 so i mean i think they're gonna be all right it's a a little too soon the panic you know whatever justin fields is finally getting his turn
Speaker 11 He doesn't have to look over his shoulder. This is your team.
Speaker 11 This is your team.
Speaker 11 You have a head coach that is going to do right by you.
Speaker 11
You got to make the most of this opportunity. And I mean, it's preseason.
You want to get all your mistakes out right now. So the game you got today.
Speaker 5 Yes.
Speaker 11
You don't want, you can't repeat these. You can't.
You got to fix it now because he's in year what? This is year four.
Speaker 5 Justin Fields?
Speaker 5 Two years, three years? Yeah, year four.
Speaker 11 Yeah,
Speaker 11 this is your make it or break a year two.
Speaker 5 Zach Wilson put together a solid start in Dolphins second preseason game. He completed 15 of 23 passes, 151 yards, and a touchdown.
Speaker 5 He missed a couple of would-be touchdowns, deep throw pass, deep pass to D.
Speaker 5 Eskridge that was underthrown. Rookie Quinn Ewarts
Speaker 5 improved on his debut,
Speaker 5 completing 11 of 16 with a pair of touchdowns to fellow rookie Theo Weeks Jr.
Speaker 11 Hey, wait, wait, who did you say had a great debut? What's the name again?
Speaker 11 The first name you said.
Speaker 5 Oh,
Speaker 5
yeah, completed 15 of 20. Zach Wilson.
151.
Speaker 11 Zach Wilson. That's my dog.
Speaker 11 That's my dog. Okay.
Speaker 5 You do realize if he plays for the Dolphins, y'all probably, y'all are not going to the playoffs, right?
Speaker 11 We'll be there.
Speaker 5 Okay.
Speaker 11
We'll be there. But again, Zach Wilson looked good today.
He did. Quinn Errors, based on how he looked last week,
Speaker 11 he looked better this week.
Speaker 5 Yes, he did. Absolutely.
Speaker 11 You want to see.
Speaker 5 Yes, you want to see improvements.
Speaker 11
Exactly. So I like it.
I think Dolphins, they're coming at the AFCs.
Speaker 11 What you think about that?
Speaker 5 I think you're drinking hunch, punch.
Speaker 5 If you think they're beating Buffalo,
Speaker 5 that's what I think about that. I think you all.
Speaker 11 See your face, boy. That was funny.
Speaker 5 That's what I think. I think you all.
Speaker 11
Hold on, so you're not. Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.
Wait a minute.
Speaker 11
I don't like the way you sound. Whereas if you're trying to say the Dolphins don't have any chance.
in the AFC East.
Speaker 5
Look, they play football. Anything can happen.
You ain't going to put no money that the Dolphins are going to be the
Speaker 5 AFC East representative, going to win that division.
Speaker 11 So, so you're telling me you've already given Buffalo the division already, and we don't know what's going to happen? Are you just saying that because they had Dr.
Speaker 5 Abbott? Take the team with the best quarterback.
Speaker 11 Okay.
Speaker 5 All right.
Speaker 11 I like where you're going.
Speaker 5 I'm taking a team with the best quarterback. I'm taking Josh Allen over every other quarterback in that division.
Speaker 5 Two over two.
Speaker 11 You're taking Josh Allen over Drake May?
Speaker 5 Yeah.
Speaker 11 You sure?
Speaker 11 Okay.
Speaker 11
I just want to see what you're going to say. Okay.
Okay.
Speaker 11 Sure.
Speaker 11 So when Drake May and goddamn Stefan Diggs look like Mark
Speaker 11 Dan Marino and Mark Duper and Clayton, then what you gonna say?
Speaker 5 They still got to do something with Josh Allen. Okay.
Speaker 5 All right.
Speaker 5 But tell somebody.
Speaker 11 Okay.
Speaker 5 Josh Allen is him.
Speaker 5 I wish I'd tell you somebody.
Speaker 11 Hold on. Are you trying to say my quarterback is not him? You trying to say two is not him?
Speaker 5 Can't stay healthy. Can't play in the cold.
Speaker 11 I don't like your attitude. I don't like your tone.
Speaker 5 They got to do it beat.
Speaker 11 I don't.
Speaker 5 Get us a
Speaker 5 fact that you can get used to it.
Speaker 11 But the funny thing, the fact that you have no confidence in us. I mean, that.
Speaker 5 I got confidence in. I mean, y'all gonna play the game, but
Speaker 5 I wouldn't put no money on
Speaker 5 y'all to win the division. I would not.
Speaker 5 Y'all probably got great odds, too.
Speaker 11 You wouldn't put money on
Speaker 11 the dolphins. The dolphins.
Speaker 11 We had.
Speaker 11 Okay.
Speaker 5 We had what?
Speaker 11 Okay. All right.
Speaker 11 I can't wait the football season.
Speaker 11 Can't wait the football season because we're going to have some nice little side bets. I'm going to pay this time.
Speaker 5 Just like you did last time.
Speaker 11 I'm going to make them small.
Speaker 5 I'm going to make them fall.
Speaker 5 Aston Genty had seven carries for 33 yards today, Ocho.
Speaker 5 His 13-yard run was part part of an eight-play, 41-yard scoring drive that ended with him piring his way into the end zone for a one-yard touchdown.
Speaker 5 After the game, Genty said, I've arrived, and it's time to keep going and make plays for this team.
Speaker 5
I don't know if I've ever heard somebody say, I've arrived in the preseason, but I'm going to take his word for it. He ran with authority today.
I like the run he had.
Speaker 5
Punished the defender, lowered his shoulder. He could run.
I mean, he runs with power. I mean, he's not,
Speaker 5 he's not an overly big guy. I mean, what's he? 5'8, 5'9?
Speaker 5 But he's powerfully built. You look at the way he's built from waist down, you can tell
Speaker 5 he's a power runner.
Speaker 11 Listen, hey,
Speaker 11 I saw one eclipse, but
Speaker 11 somebody caught him. I saw the one where he ran dude over, but on the left side, somebody caught him good.
Speaker 5 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 11 I don't know if that was a safety coming downhill. I don't know who it was.
Speaker 11 But
Speaker 5 well, you might want to get word to him. You got to pick and choose your battles.
Speaker 5 You're not going to run through. You're not going to run through people like you did in Boise estate.
Speaker 11 It's the preseason. He doesn't understand yet.
Speaker 11 No, you're going to learn real quick. Boy, some grown men out there, boy.
Speaker 5 Yeah.
Speaker 5 So, but I thought, you know, look.
Speaker 5 Like Gino, Geno has great command of the offense. Gino is very, very familiar with Pete Carroll.
Speaker 11 That's a good thing.
Speaker 5 Pete went and got him.
Speaker 5 So it's going to be interesting to see how the Raiders do look.
Speaker 5 That division is good. Very.
Speaker 5 You got Mahomes in that division. They won the division probably like, what, the last eight years? They probably won the division every year since, what, 2016?
Speaker 11 Is it 2018? I thought it was.
Speaker 5
Yeah, you got to realize because they had Alex Mills, they won the division. They won the division every year.
Patrick Mahomes has been the starting quarterback, and he started in 2019, 2018.
Speaker 5 He got drafted in 17.
Speaker 11 The last time Broncos
Speaker 5 won the division, they won the
Speaker 5 Super Bowl.
Speaker 11
That was 2018. Okay, that was the last.
So since then, since 2016, the Chiefs have been winning the AFC.
Speaker 5 Yeah.
Speaker 5 But you got Mahomes, you got Herbert, you got Bo Nicks, and Geno.
Speaker 5 Look, that might be the second best division in football. As far as quarterbacks, I think the AFC, I think the AFC North.
Speaker 11 Whoa, NFC East? What are we talking about?
Speaker 5
Yeah, let's see. Hold on.
Who's the NFC?
Speaker 5 Yeah,
Speaker 5 I think for me, it's clear that
Speaker 5 it's the AFC North. With, you know, you got two of the top four quarterbacks in one division.
Speaker 5 Okay, Rodgers. And then, yeah.
Speaker 5 Even with Cleveland, we ain't giving Cleveland nothing
Speaker 5 with
Speaker 5 those two top four guys and Rodgers. And then, you know, okay,
Speaker 5 I can see that. I can see that.
Speaker 5 The AFC East with Russ, Jane Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Dak.
Speaker 5 But Mahomes, Justin Herbert, Bo Nicks, there ain't no slouching.
Speaker 11 I like both too, man.
Speaker 5 I really, really like both.
Speaker 5 I like both.
Speaker 5 So
Speaker 5 if somebody said,
Speaker 5 if someone said I would take the AFC
Speaker 5 West quarterbacks, I wouldn't fight them.
Speaker 5 Because you got Mahomes.
Speaker 5
Mahomes has been to five Super Bowls. You got Justin Herbert.
You got a Bo Knicks who's up and coming.
Speaker 5 Now,
Speaker 5
Hurts is one of the Super Bowl. He's been to two.
Russ has been the two, one, one.
Speaker 5 But
Speaker 5 Dak,
Speaker 5 where we putting Dak? You take Dak or you take Justin Herbert?
Speaker 11 That's a good one.
Speaker 11 Yeah.
Speaker 11 That's a
Speaker 5 chat. Who y'all like? You take Dak or you take Justin Herbert?
Speaker 11 Hey, I mean, half the chat is going to say they're going to say Justin Herbert because they just don't like the damn Cowboys.
Speaker 5 No, I think.
Speaker 5 Both of them.
Speaker 5
There ain't nothing that kid can't do. That kid got an arm.
He is immensely arm-talented.
Speaker 5 He's more athletic than you think.
Speaker 5 And he can flat out throw it.
Speaker 11 I told you, I'm looking at the chat.
Speaker 5 Goddamn
Speaker 11 a whole bunch of herbits going back and forth. And I see a Dak every so often.
Speaker 5 I knew they were going to do that.
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