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Speaker 22 Oh, okay. Here we go.
We got a very special guest joining us. She's fresh off her second Diamond League win.
She's the fastest woman in the world in 2025. She's undefeated in the 100 meters in 2025.

Speaker 22 And she won the 100 and the 200 at the USA Track and Field Trials this year. And she will represent the USA in Tokyo September 13th to the 21st.

Speaker 22 Here she is, ladies and gentlemen, Melissa Jefferson Wooden. Melissa, how are you doing? Good.
How are you guys?

Speaker 22 We're doing amazing.

Speaker 22 Let me start you with this. You get off to a great start.

Speaker 22 You run high 10-8s early in the season, and you haven't let up.

Speaker 22 Do you feel you're in the type of shape, you're in the type of condition that you can go to

Speaker 22 the championships and maybe run sub-1060?

Speaker 22 You feel you're in that kind of condition? The right track, the right conditions, the right people, because you're going to have Alfred in that race. You're going to have Talou in that race.

Speaker 22 You're going to have Tia Clayton in that race. You're going to have your training partner, Sha'Cari Richardson, in that race.
So you're going to have the competition.

Speaker 22 Will the conditions permit you with the fitness that you're in right now?

Speaker 26 I think so. And I think really it just boils down to, you know, me at the end of the day, just continuing to do the things that's been working for me with it, which is,

Speaker 26 you know, showing up and executing my race to the best of my ability. And I think, I definitely do think that is possible.

Speaker 22 I think you got a lot of confidence last year when you got that bronze medal in Paris, when you got that bronze medal and you like, it's just something about, it's just something about you like, man.

Speaker 22 But I could tell you weren't satisfied training with the world champion and coming into this season. What were your expectations, Melissa, coming into this season?

Speaker 22 Because did you know you had this kind of you had? I mean, to back it up, there have been a whole lot of women that back up 10-6 with another 10-6. That haven't happened.

Speaker 22 You got to go back to Shelly Ann Frazier Price. You got to go back to Elaine Thompson.
You got to go back. There ain't a whole lot of women that have done what you just did.

Speaker 26 Yeah, so I think the biggest thing for me getting into the 2025 season

Speaker 27 is

Speaker 26 starting it out healthy.

Speaker 26 I started training for Paris with a lingering issue from the previous season. And also I had joined or just joined Star Athletics with Dennis Mitchell and Sharif Lewis.

Speaker 26 So it was definitely like a lot of things happening all at once. And it was like once we once I really didn't actually even get a good footing in yet.

Speaker 26 And then it was kind of like, oh, wow, like, no, something's wrong. Like, it was to a point to where I actually had to stop training with the group for about two and a half months.

Speaker 26 And so those days where I was like on the bike and watching them be able to go out there and train and get after it, like, even though they were, there were some days where, you know, they were dying on the ground.

Speaker 26 It's like, I want to be there with y'all. Like, I want to be able to feel that pain.
I want to be able to say, like, hey, I put the work in just like everyone else.

Speaker 26 And then once reality started to set in of just like, you know, this is where you're at right now. This is your situation.
Let's move on from there.

Speaker 26 It was really just about getting,

Speaker 26 while my physical was getting back right, just making sure that my mental was intact and, you know, not losing sight of what the goal was, and that was to make the team.

Speaker 26 And so when the time came, you know, obviously we went to Olympic trials and our whole training group, we swept the women's 100-meter. I don't think that's something that's been done in an Olympic

Speaker 26 at a U.S. championships in a long time.

Speaker 26 You know, three women from the same training group to make the team. So that was definitely something,

Speaker 26 you know, I was happy to be a part of. And then going into Paris, it was just about, you know, I felt like I really had a good chance to win the whole thing.

Speaker 26 But it was also just in that moment when I saw my name come up in that last spot. It was just about, you know, in a sense, it wasn't a goal.

Speaker 26 It was a goal met my eyes because I had overcome so much that year to be able to

Speaker 26 have my name up there. So, yeah.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 27 Sister, you've been very, very successful. I just, I just, I've never been able to run track, but all that you've accomplished, the big stages that you've been on, I would love to know.

Speaker 27 I know what the feeling like is coming out that tunnel where people scream your name. I want to know what is that feeling like when you get in those blocks and it's silent.

Speaker 27 What's going through your mind? Are you nervous? You have butterflies. What is that feeling like?

Speaker 2 So, I think this year for me,

Speaker 26 like once it gets silent, it's almost kind of like I get to use that opportunity as for me to give myself that last-minute pep talk in a sense of just like, okay, you're here now.

Speaker 26 Make the best of this situation or this opportunity that's being presented. And once they say on your mark, I say, here we go.
And that's that. When the gun goes off, whatever happens, happens.

Speaker 22 i think you gained a lot of confidence melissa look you beat the reigning olympic champ you get the race every day practice against the the the reigning world champ but i think when you beat alfred the saint lucian when you beat her it's just like you got 10 feet tall you like i

Speaker 22 did this my year

Speaker 22 i i i saw it i saw what i saw when you beat her something came over you.

Speaker 22 And I don't know if you felt that before that race, but when you beat her that day and you ran the time that you ran, you're like, oh, yeah,

Speaker 22 I'm on to something.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 26 I think honestly and truly for me, that race was, obviously, it was basically an Olympic rematch. And so.

Speaker 26 I remember being in the tunnel and going out there and I just remember saying like, you know, they're not going to get you twice.

Speaker 26 You know,

Speaker 26 in life, you have situations where things may or may not go your way, but it's all about how you come back or bounce back from those situations, whether it win in your favor or not.

Speaker 26 And you learn from them and you grow from them. And so that's literally been my approach this year as well.

Speaker 26 You know, after I realized how content I was with how the 2024 season went with me, or went for me, it really was about me coming into this year and saying, okay, well, let's see what a healthy Melissa can do.

Speaker 26 And once we realize like, hey, you're healthy, you're doing the things that you need to do. Let's build on that.
Let's let's be the best Melissa that, you know, you can possibly be.

Speaker 26 Because this is like literally what you're seeing right now is something that I've always dreamed of doing.

Speaker 26 And to be living part of that dream right now is just, you know, mind blowing, but also not very surprising too, just because I've been putting in the work. Like I've been working my butt off.

Speaker 26 And so, you know, when I go out here and I run these races and I run these times and, you know, all of these other things, the things that's probably the most surprising to me is

Speaker 26 when you hear the history stats or how long is it been since something like this has been done, like that part of it is shocking.

Speaker 26 But when it comes to like, you know, the times that I want to run and the way I'm going about executing my races and how I'm showing up and competing, like none of that is a surprise because I literally work for it every single day in practice.

Speaker 22 When you talk, do you do you understand? There have only been two women to go to 10 sub six you got flojo the great flojo who run 1049 and you got elaine thompson here who's run 1054.

Speaker 22 you got an opportunity to do something special and i mentioned that great season that shellyanne frazier price had where she had like 10 she had six 10 uh uh six

Speaker 22 uh races uh uh in that season and then we mentioned elaine thompson she went 1054 and then she came back at the pre- I think it was the pre-fontaine of the worlds and ran 10 ran 1061.

Speaker 22 And for you to, I mean, when I saw, when I, when I saw the time today,

Speaker 22 1065, it looked like 1065.

Speaker 22 I thought today it was like 1071, 1072. I said, but because you weren't, you weren't challenged.
Now, I know you couldn't see all the way outside.

Speaker 22 I think that was Clayton that was way outside in lane nine. And I don't know if you could see her, but you were like, you get out.
I mean, you, I mean, you push.

Speaker 22 I mean, hey, MJ, you get out of those box. box.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 26 And that's really what the

Speaker 27 what the

Speaker 26 race plan today was was about. You know, my coach just made sure to tell me, like, hey, I want to put this race to bed in the first 30 meters.
And so that's what I tried to go out there and do.

Speaker 26 Like, it's literally, that's how it goes for me. Every single race, there's something,

Speaker 26 whether it be, hey, when you get to your transition, you need to hit it this way, or hey,

Speaker 26 let's put it to bed early per se so you know it's it's really just that

Speaker 22 right

Speaker 22 you i'm i'm i'm i'm thinking i'm like

Speaker 22 when you go you go into a race and dennis and dennis was a great starter himself is like when you says okay put it to bed in the first the first 30.

Speaker 22 okay you get out now you get into your transition you do you look around do you i mean can you feel like okay i can shut it down because the way you got out today had you stayed on the gas you might have could have dipped down to maybe 1062, 1063.

Speaker 26 Yeah. So what's crazy is I agree with you.
I didn't think that 1066 was going to pop up on the clock today.

Speaker 26 I really just wanted to go out there and be like, hey, okay, you know, one, let's get an overseas PB.

Speaker 26 I haven't ran that fast. The fastest I've ever ran overseas was 1092, which isn't bad, but you know, obviously you always want to aim for better and things like that.
And

Speaker 26 for Americans, you know, coming over, we call it going across the pond, you know, you have the travel, you have the jet lag and everything that you want to do.

Speaker 26 It's a lot of factors within that. But I made sure to set myself up for the

Speaker 26 basically, I've made sure to set myself up to be able to go out there and run as fast as I possibly could today, you know, even if that meant leaving an extra day early so that I would have time to get the travel out my legs or, you know, being a student in the sport and asking people around me who've done this before multiple times, like, hey, like, what works for you when it comes time for these long flights?

Speaker 26 Like, how do you get over your jet lag? How do you recover from the plane ride and things like that? So, you know, just being proactive and not being afraid to ask questions

Speaker 26 or, you know, wanting to learn from that as well, because I want to be doing this for a long time. So I always want to make sure that I'm putting my best foot forward.

Speaker 26 And that's, you know, utilizing all of my resources, doing research on my own, whether it be asking some of my training partners or asking people who ran in the past and done this for many, many years.

Speaker 26 You know, I want to make sure that if I say I want to be one of the best in the sports, then I'm doing the things that I need to do in order to be the best in the sport.

Speaker 27 You know what? I'm curious. I have another, my daughter runs track for University of Kentucky.
She runs a four and eight right now.

Speaker 27 I'm curious at your level, at the highest, at the highest level, how does the training,

Speaker 27 how is the training going?

Speaker 27 How do the training sessions go? For us, when you think about football, let's say there's a game on Sunday, right? Monday,

Speaker 27 Monday is a film day. Tuesday, y'all.
Wednesday and Thursdays, you hitting it hard. Friday, you take Wednesday and Thursdays, and

Speaker 27 it's not as hard.

Speaker 27 What's the word?

Speaker 27 Yes, it's not as intense. You know, Saturday, walkthrough.
Sunday, you play your game. So when it comes to tracking and you have a race coming up, what do the days look like? How do you know

Speaker 27 how how to train without peeking before you actually do the race itself?

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Speaker 26 Is like, say, for instance, I'll even do maybe

Speaker 26 a week right before we have like a U.S. trials.

Speaker 26 So the week before U.S. trials, we were like really, I would, I call it being in the lab, where we do one day on, one day off.
So we'll have

Speaker 26 a heavy sprint day, which we're doing like blocks and

Speaker 26 a lot of sprint training. So whether that be overspeed training or, you know, getting like

Speaker 26 close to FAT timing, you know, just seeing where we are

Speaker 26 with flat foot speed and then being able to take those two things and translate it over. And then we'll come the next day and then have an off day where we'll just do strides and things like that.

Speaker 26 And we'll do that

Speaker 26 basically. going into the week of U.S.
trials. And then when we get to U.S.

Speaker 26 trials, it's just about, you know, doing things that's going to keep the body awake and alert, but also not trying to do too much so we'll do something like maybe like a 150 but the pace will be slower you know and we'll we'll just work on technique and things like that and then uh we'll have another down day and then what we we call it pre-meet um which is the day before the meet starts and that'll be the day where we do our blocks um and it's really just some pop-out blocks we'll have about maybe two or three of them and a nice little quick run or i say quick run really a quick sprint like maybe 60 60 meters or something like that.

Speaker 26 And then we'll hit it. If the time is good, all right, shut it down, take your shoes off, go cool down, and that's it.

Speaker 27 Oh, that's dope.

Speaker 22 Wow.

Speaker 27 You know, you know,

Speaker 27 it sounds like, honestly, the way you guys train, you train in different phases of the race, but you never actually do the full race before you actually do it.

Speaker 26 Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I feel like that's.

Speaker 26 probably

Speaker 26 something that's definitely worked to my advantage a lot, especially like when we have our sprint days, like we'll literally have two different sessions, but they're like you said, working on both parts of the races.

Speaker 26 We'll have

Speaker 26 a part in our, yeah, like we'll have a part in our in our practice where we do strictly blocks, but we won't go out but so far. Right.

Speaker 26 And then we'll come on the second half of the day and do, you know, sprints, something like that. Whereas we can put together what we did in the blocks, but also work on the latter ends of our races.

Speaker 26 And, you know, it gives coach an opportunity to really see the areas where we're not as strong or where our strong points are, and then how we build off of those and then make those weaker points stronger.

Speaker 22 Right, that's dope.

Speaker 22 Melissa, you was mainly known as a 100-meter specialist, but when you go down there and you lay the time that you laid down at the trials, they're like, hold on, what happened to the 100-meter specialist?

Speaker 22 No, no, no, no, no. There is a legit chance you can double.

Speaker 22 It is because look, the St. Lucian, she ain't going anywhere.
That's your competition. You know that.
Look, Talou is Toulouse. She's a big, she's a big race.
And we know the Jamaicans

Speaker 22 from Shelly Ann Fraser and Elaine and Hera, they're not, Shelly Ann is going to be there. Elaine isn't.
Sharika Jackson,

Speaker 22 they are big game hunters. They show up in the world and the Olympics.
The Jamaicans show up. But you know Toulouse.
But your competition.

Speaker 22 You know it. It's probably going to be right next to you.
Four and five. Y'all are probably going to be right next to each other.
The St. Lucian, Julian Alfred.
She ain't going anywhere.

Speaker 22 She's getting 100 and 200.

Speaker 22 You mentioned Paris, you're like, damn, I was injured going in, and I got a bronze. I'm happy, I'm thankful.

Speaker 22 Uh, you got, if I'm not mistaken, I think you got the uh,

Speaker 22 you got the silver at the uh, the uh, at the worlds, right?

Speaker 26 No, so so I got bronze in the hundred at um, well, yeah, I got bronze in the hundred in Paris, uh, and then I got silver at Olympic trials,

Speaker 22 Trials. Yes.

Speaker 22 So now,

Speaker 22 how do you train? Because like the premium race is the 100, but you know, you're like, well, hell, I'm here. I might as well be greedy.
I might as well be greedy and get double go.

Speaker 22 I might as well.

Speaker 26 Yeah.

Speaker 26 So me and the 200 have a love-hate relationship. It ain't never had no problems with me, but I have problems with it.

Speaker 26 So I'm kind of, you know, we don't have as much problems anymore. That's because I know how to run it now.
And then I'm not, I'm not scared of the pain.

Speaker 26 Really, for me, it was always the pain for the uh in the 200 that was the thing that I feared the most.

Speaker 26 But after getting over that, like, hey, the pain is it's like lactic is lactic at the end of the day. It's going to be in, yeah, very right, temporary.
Um, but I'm in shape, I'm in good shape.

Speaker 26 So, you know, you have you're in phenomenal shape.

Speaker 22 Thanks.

Speaker 22 No, no, no, no, no. Look, I'm a track aficionado.
To go back to back 65, 66.

Speaker 22 Like I said, there haven't been a whole lot of women. And we've had some great 100-meter runners.
And I'm not just talking about Americans. I'm talking about from the Jamaicans and

Speaker 22 Marion Jones.

Speaker 22 And you go back to, well, obviously, they weren't running times back then, but you look at Marion Jones, you look at Flojo, you look at Evelyn Ashford, you look at Gail Deavers, you look at Elaine Thompson and Shelly Ann Frazier, and you look at Sha'Cari to put together 65 and 66 in back-to-back races.

Speaker 22 That doesn't happen often.

Speaker 22 So you're in phenomenal shape. I just hope you can, I just hope, MJ, you can hold on to this.
Because if you hold on to this kind of shape, there's something special in store for you

Speaker 22 in Tokyo. Because I know she's going to bring the best out of you, and you're going to bring the best out of her.

Speaker 22 And with that track and a favorable condition, hopefully we can get something about 1.5 to 1.8 behind you.

Speaker 22 Come on.

Speaker 22 Come on with us. Come on with it.
Come on. Come on with it.

Speaker 22 I'm telling you, I'm going to be hype. I'm going to be hype.

Speaker 22 But in the 200, with your kind of speed,

Speaker 22 and you say you were scared of the pain because the 200, with your kind of speed, you got to get out because you don't like like.

Speaker 22 Like Gabby can run the 400. She can run 49, 400.
So she has that kind of endurance, that strength to come on at the end

Speaker 22 you like i'm gonna do i'm gonna do a leonardo di caprio catch him if you can because i'm gonna get out here on you

Speaker 22 come get me

Speaker 26 yeah and i think for me it's always just about well for any athlete it's just you know knowing what your strengths are and letting your strengths play to your advantage.

Speaker 26 I know, because even if you go back and you look at when I ran in the Miami Miami Grand Slam, that was that was my first, I would say, like I ran the 200 in Kingston, but the wind was like crazy.

Speaker 26 I ran into like a negative 4.7 win or something. So I, yeah, literally ran with a hurricane in my face.

Speaker 22 So it was like, I was going to say, you ran into a hurricane. Yeah.
So that like.

Speaker 26 At that point, it's just about like, nobody cares about the time. Like, just put your head down and run.

Speaker 26 But so I say Miami was probably my first real 200 of the year. And I'm in a race with the Olympic gold medalist, the Olympic bronze medalist, and then all these other

Speaker 26 women who run the 200 on a regular and I don't.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 So

Speaker 26 going into that race, I was just kind of like,

Speaker 26 I won the 100 the day before. I ran a 10-7.
It was windy, but it's just like, okay, it's still 10-7.

Speaker 26 Like, okay, let's go back out there the next day and see what we can do. Like, let's see what we got in the 10.

Speaker 26 There's no expectation on what I can do on the the line and let's see what you got and that's what i did i got out like my life dependent on it and i got to about 150 like a hundred meter specialists would do and faded i swam for about the last 30 meters of the race and every time i go back and look at that race i'm like man melissa you were right there like okay bet you are right there

Speaker 26 Next time, it won't happen again. And when we got to Philly, that's literally what I did.
I got blessed with the lane draw once again. And I just remember getting out on the curb.

Speaker 26 And when we came off the curb, it was just like, oh, wow, you're in the front.

Speaker 27 Hold it. Stay in the front.

Speaker 26 Like, come on, let's do this.

Speaker 26 And even then, I kind of feel like, not that I held back a little bit in that, in that 200, but it was almost like,

Speaker 26 I think she's going to come and catch me eventually. So it was kind of like almost I was waiting for her to do that.
And it was like, Melissa, why did you do that?

Speaker 26 Like, why didn't you just trust your abilities? Why didn't you think that you were fully capable of winning this race, no matter who's in the race, you know? And so

Speaker 26 going into trials, or I won Philly, and then going into trials, it's just like, okay, let's just go out there and see what you got. You know, you're strong enough to do it.

Speaker 26 You know, you know how to execute a race. Just go out there and do it.
Like stop getting in your own way and go out there and do what you know you can do. And so that's what I did.
And I'm happy.

Speaker 26 Like 2184 for me.

Speaker 26 You don't even want to know what I had written down on my goals for the 200 this year. Like surpass that.

Speaker 22 Probably, probably, probably 22 flat, low 22 or maybe 22 flat. But I think what running the 200.

Speaker 26 It was definitely 21.9.

Speaker 22 Okay. And you surprise.
So you went 21.8.

Speaker 22 But I think what the 200 did do is that it gave you the strength that you could hold on to that 100 meters. So I'm expecting something really,

Speaker 22 I'm expecting something special.

Speaker 22 I'm expecting something that only Flojo has been able to do. I'm expecting you to go.

Speaker 22 I can see a scenario. You go high 21, high 10-5.

Speaker 22 I can see that. Yeah.

Speaker 26 I can too.

Speaker 22 I like it. So let me, but let me ask you this.

Speaker 22 As when you are mainly a 100-meter, now you're into the 200. How different is the training from the one to the two?

Speaker 26 For us, it's actually not that different. We pretty much do the same things we do for the 100, for the 200.
The way our coach trains us, it's literally like you either got it or you don't. You know,

Speaker 26 it's kind of one of those things.

Speaker 26 And then obviously, you know, when it comes to certain part of the races, like there's there is an extra 100 meters. So, you know, it's all about teaching us

Speaker 22 when

Speaker 26 we're getting out of the blocks. and what we do at the point of the 200 and things like that.

Speaker 26 But when it comes to like whether if you're asking like, do we do more strength endurance training for that? Or, you know, if different in that aspect of it, it's not that much.

Speaker 26 It doesn't vary a lot. Yeah.

Speaker 22 Right. Cause a lot of, cause like like 400 meter runners, they'll do a lot of, they'll do a lot of 500, a lot of 600s.
200 meters runners, you'll probably do a lot, a lot, a lot more threes.

Speaker 22 And for the 100 meters, you do a lot more 150s, maybe 170s like that.

Speaker 22 So it's interesting to see because they require different things you know obviously the the 100 meters is all about get out because i don't care

Speaker 22 10-7 ain't catching 10-7.

Speaker 22 the first 10-7 to get out the blocks that's the 10-7 that's go cross your finish line first so those days are you running somebody down absolutely that's the thing that's that's the thing in the past when you're dealing with equal you know you and julian and uh miss alfred when you guys get out and that's what you've been able to do i'm so i'm like i don't know if i've seen a woman get out of the blocks like you.

Speaker 22 I mean, it's almost like I'm looking at you. You're like a two-foot, like you push off like two feet.
Normally, you see that with men.

Speaker 22 So, Tim, so

Speaker 22 go ahead.

Speaker 22 I want to know

Speaker 22 how you've been able to like the way you thrust yourself out of the blocks.

Speaker 26 So, for me, it's it's all about it it's almost this thing to where like we do it every single day in practice so the minute i hear go uh the first the

Speaker 22 first thing

Speaker 22 is just like okay

Speaker 26 how much first step in doing so you know obviously it's about you know you get in you get to the the the technical side of things. So you talk about your stride length and all of that stuff.

Speaker 26 But for me, it's really just about how much can I get out of these first couple of steps?

Speaker 26 How can I set myself up to separate from the rest of the field is basically what I'm thinking in my head. And whatever gets me to doing that is basically how I go about it.

Speaker 26 It's always fun, though, to be able to line up with women who have, or who are just as capable of doing the things that I do, you know, as far as getting out the blocks.

Speaker 26 Like I like getting out the blocks with people. You know,

Speaker 26 it makes me. want to be better.
It makes me like, if we can get out together,

Speaker 26 I now want to see how I can get out faster than you. Like that's the type of athlete that I am.
I'm always looking for ways to improve, always looking for ways to be a better Melissa.

Speaker 26 And in doing that, you know, it comes, it boils down to perfecting my craft. And I do that every single day with my training partners in practice.

Speaker 26 You know, like we push each other past our limits sometimes and in good ways, obviously, but you know, just you know, bringing the best out of one another is, is, I feel like, why I've been able to do the things that I've been able to do.

Speaker 26 Like you see me, how you say, like, I get out the blocks the way I do. I don't get out the blocks the way I do if I'm not being pushed like that in practice.
So,

Speaker 22 right.

Speaker 22 And I'm no disrespect, but I forgot about the great, the uh, the great Brits, uh, Daryl Nita and Dina Asher Smith.

Speaker 22 I'm sure they're gonna, they're gonna, they're gonna be on the line, they're gonna, they're gonna have something to say about this. But, uh, Melissa, I mean, have you thought about it?

Speaker 22 I mean, when you were growing up,

Speaker 22 did you ever, did you ever, did it ever cross your mind?

Speaker 22 I would be the fastest woman in the world.

Speaker 22 Not in Texas or Florida or Georgia.

Speaker 22 I'm going to be the fat of 8 billion people. There's not going to be a woman in the world that can outrun me.

Speaker 26 Yes.

Speaker 26 Honestly, it's true.

Speaker 26 Yes.

Speaker 26 Like, there's no lies to it. I'm so dead serious.

Speaker 27 Yes.

Speaker 22 I mean,

Speaker 22 look,

Speaker 22 I'm expecting a goal

Speaker 22 in the 100 meters.

Speaker 22 I'm expecting a time. I'm expecting you to lay down something special

Speaker 22 that we're going to be talking about leading

Speaker 22 in the 28, because obviously

Speaker 22 the Olympics are going to be in L.A. and hopefully you can stay healthy.
But I'm expecting something special because I know you got it in you.

Speaker 22 And the way you run, the time that you run, it ain't no, well, she ran 10-8, now she ran 11-flat.

Speaker 22 She ran uh 1078 and now she run 1092. nah it went from 1088 1086 1084 82 75 72.

Speaker 22 i'm like what damn improvement hey does she got does she got a she got a hurricane behind or something

Speaker 26 the time she laying down and the consistency in which you're laying these times down oh yeah um you know consistency is the name of the game in our sport and i feel like the biggest thing for me this year, also just on top of everything else that I've been doing, whether it be my mindset or anything like that, is just being disciplined and who I want to be on those days where you know I may not be feeling my best or man, I'm a little tired today.

Speaker 26 Coach for beating us up all week, like make sure to keep showing up for myself. Uh, you know, because at the end of the day, I don't want to get to Tokyo and be like, Man,

Speaker 22 if I would have just sit down one cool-down lap, or if I would have just

Speaker 26 sucked it up and came today or or if I would have did that interrupt then maybe like I don't want to I don't want to leave with any doubts of no regret everything that I did I didn't leave or I didn't do yes I can't get the words out for some reason excuse me it's five o'clock in the morning over here but yeah

Speaker 22 And we thank you for your time because there are two. You get a lifetime of discipline or a lifetime of regret.

Speaker 22 Now, the lifetime of discipline is something that you can look back and you can be proud of. That regret is something that you can't go back and undo.

Speaker 22 And so

Speaker 22 like I said, I'm expecting you. You look fit.
You are fit for you to run those times that you've been running, the consistency in which you've been running, Melissa.

Speaker 22 So I'm expecting you when you win, when you win,

Speaker 22 which you will win. We're going to speak it in.
They say there's power in the tongue. We're going to speak it into existence.

Speaker 22 You're going to win and you're going to come back here and we're going to have something very very special for you on night camp so when you win the 100 meters come on back and have a conversation with us okay all right that's the deal melissa thank you so much thank you for your time Appreciate you staying up or getting up early in the morning to have this conversation with us.

Speaker 22 You can tell that we are big track fans. We covered the Olympics.
We're going to cover the world championships.

Speaker 22 We didn't get an opportunity to come out to the trials, but moving forward, we will be at the trials.

Speaker 22 Hey, Ocho, in her downtime, she likes playing Call of Duty and say she be. Hey, she says what? She says she wear a size 14 and she be putting the buttons.

Speaker 22 She says she be putting buttons.

Speaker 37 I do.

Speaker 22 I do.

Speaker 27 Okay, okay. We're going to have to run.
We're going to have to run one. We're going to have to run one.
Now we're now. Okay.
I'll be talking. I like it.
I like it.

Speaker 22 All right.

Speaker 27 Got you.

Speaker 22 Here she is, ladies and gentlemen, Melissa Jefferson Wooden. She's the U.S.
champ in the 100 meters and the 200 meters. She will be representing the U.S.
in the 100, the 200, and the 4x1.

Speaker 22 Hey, you pick up a fourth goal. You jump on that 4x4.
You got that in?

Speaker 26 Ooh, listen. If they want to win, they should leave me off of it this year.

Speaker 26 I'm just being honest.

Speaker 26 I'm just being honest.

Speaker 22 Melissa, congratulations on all your success. Stay healthy, and we look forward to talking to you real soon.
Thank you for joining us. Thank you, guys.

Speaker 18 Thank you.

Speaker 22 Thank you so much. Take care.

Speaker 22 Man, Ocho, I was.

Speaker 22 Man, I got, man, I don't know what it is.

Speaker 22 Don't nothing get me.

Speaker 27 Anytime you talk about track, boy, you be a boy, you boy. You see, when we talk about,

Speaker 22 don't nothing excite me. Football, basketball, nothing excites me like track and field.

Speaker 27 So see how you get, how you get with track and field. When we talk about soccer boxing,

Speaker 27 soccer boxing,

Speaker 27 if one more thing,

Speaker 27 soccer boxing. Yeah, that's about it.
Soccer and boxing, but I think

Speaker 22 it's. I don't know what it is, Ocho.
I think it's the fact of being the next track athlete and knowing what you put in. Because guess what, Ocho? You can't rely on nobody else.
It's you.

Speaker 22 It's you. And then you can't be mad at the results you didn't get for the work you didn't put in.
You heard what she said? I heard a guy the other day, he said, motivation and discipline.

Speaker 22 He said, what happens on the days that you're not motivated? Are you disciplined?

Speaker 22 Think about that. On the day, motivation and discipline, they're very different things because you're not going to always be motivated, but will you stay disciplined?

Speaker 27 I'm still get up when you don't want to.

Speaker 22 Studying, watching track and field for as long as I have and studying this young and watching this young lady run, ocho, I don't know if the chat realize how impressive what she just did is.

Speaker 22 I don't think they understand the gravity or the magnitude of her running the time she ran, what she's done. She's put herself in a very, very elite company.

Speaker 22 Very, very elite. She's fit.

Speaker 22 She's going to have the people in the race to lose from the Ivory Coast, the St. Lucian Junior offered, those two great brits daryl nita and dina asher smith shakari

Speaker 22 look they're gonna the women are gonna be there i believe the conditions the favorable conditions if she can get a 1.5 to 1.8

Speaker 22 and she can get out like she got out today she's going to she now the difference is ocho you got rounds so

Speaker 22 hopefully she doesn't get anybody that hopefully she can just like you know just get because all you want to do is get through all you're trying to do is get through you trying to you trying to not you trying to expel as little energy as you possibly can because now when it comes to final i'm emptying the tank

Speaker 22 with the condition that she's in the fitness

Speaker 22 she can go she can run she can roll she can run low 10-6 or high 10-5

Speaker 27 which only two women have ever done that elaine thompsonhera and flojo the great flowjo if you look at the field if you look at the field that she'll be running against you're not going you might not have a choice but to run that.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 22 Oh, oh, oh,

Speaker 22 that, that, that, that UT, that horn, that long horn, Julian Alfred from St. Lucia.
Oh, oh.

Speaker 22 But I saw, ocho, I saw her when she beat her

Speaker 22 something. And she was, she was giggling, and she's like, yeah.

Speaker 22 It's that confidence, Ocho. That is the reigning Olympic champ.

Speaker 22 she got out catch him if you can that's joke she knows that's the type that's the type of race she's gonna have to run man i mean i oh man i can't wait for the ocho oh yo

Speaker 22 come on come on

Speaker 22 come on

Speaker 22 uh the september 13th through the 21st

Speaker 22 right around the corner Right around the corner. I'm just hoping she could hold on to that fitness for another month.
Hold on to that fitness. Hold on.

Speaker 22 Because, hey.

Speaker 22 That's going to be a race. Better I can't wait, Ocho.
I can't wait.

Speaker 22 We got stuff for.

Speaker 22 Hey, Jamaicans, y'all want some of this?

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Y'all remember what we did to y'all last time. I told y'all what we were going to do.
Going to it again, too.

Speaker 22 I don't know about the man, Kushane. Kushane, but Kushane Thompson.

Speaker 27 They played.

Speaker 27 If there was another 10 meters, Noah would come in to get him.

Speaker 22 But see, that's the thing.

Speaker 22 In order for Noah to have a chance, he's got to get closer to him. He's got to be closer to him because Noah is a 200-meter specialist.

Speaker 22 And see, that was Usain. Usain started out as a 200-meter specialist, and he was giving up too much ground.

Speaker 22 He'd run out of meters before the race was over.

Speaker 22 So now,

Speaker 22 once he got his start down, Noah has the endurance

Speaker 27 to come get you later on in the race. Yeah,

Speaker 22 he's got to get out with him. He's got to get out with him.

Speaker 22 He's got to be closer. Now, you got to realize, Noah hadn't run a whole lot of 100 meters.

Speaker 22 He hadn't run a whole lot of hundred meters. He hadn't run a whole lot of anything this year, actually, to be honest.

Speaker 22 But the question is, how fit now he looked good at the trials. You know what? The way he looked at Kenny Beneric.

Speaker 27 Kenny came in Thursday, huh?

Speaker 22 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 22 But

Speaker 22 he's got to be closer. Because, like I said, Ojo, 9-7 ain't catching 9-7.

Speaker 22 9-7 can catch 9-8-5 or 9-9. You ain't catching 9-7.
9-7-9-7. If he gets out like that, like he got out,

Speaker 22 man,

Speaker 22 but I can't wait for Track and Field, man. Man, I get hype.

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Speaker 22 Terry McLaurin came off the pup list amid contract tensions with the Commanders. Despite the contract standoff, hold-ins, trade requests, Terry McLaurin will soon be practicing with the commanders.

Speaker 22 The team announced today that he has been activated from the pup list. Ocho, could Terry removal from the pup list mean contract extension is on the way?

Speaker 27 Probably something is looming.

Speaker 27 They're almost there. It's probably not where it needs to be, but the fact that they think they're going to practice

Speaker 27 is a good thing.

Speaker 27 He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt, if I'm not mistaken. He'll be able to get two weeks under his belt before he's able to play,

Speaker 27 before he was able to play in a live game,

Speaker 27 which would be September. I'm assuming, what, September, what, 7th, maybe or 13th?

Speaker 27 Week one.

Speaker 22 What at, Mojo?

Speaker 22 What at?

Speaker 27 No, in a live game, a real game. He didn't miss.
He didn't miss the preseason.

Speaker 22 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 27 Not going to play

Speaker 27 week three.

Speaker 22 The last preseason game, no.

Speaker 27 So

Speaker 27 I'm hoping, I'm hoping, I pray once he gets paid, no setbacks, no injuries. It's going to be so different.

Speaker 27 It's going to be so different. The fact that he wasn't able to go through training camp.

Speaker 22 And

Speaker 22 Ocho, you took the word right out of my mouth.

Speaker 22 I'm saying to myself, and I'm thinking to myself, and I say, I know Ocho's thinking this, man, I could not imagine not playing a meaningful game in eight, nine months in

Speaker 22 my first real game. It's going to be a real game.
Man,

Speaker 22 I couldn't imagine it, Ocho.

Speaker 27 I wouldn't want that. I wouldn't want that.

Speaker 22 No,

Speaker 27 honestly, I would tell my agent, listen, if we get this deal done,

Speaker 27 I'm going to go practice.

Speaker 27 If there's a chance that we're getting this deal done, I'm going to go practice because I need people pushing. I need people pulling.
I need to be fighting through contact. Work with this wife, man.

Speaker 27 Forget that, man.

Speaker 27 I'm telling you, the body will tear up. The body will tear up trying to go from zero to 100 without putting it through that that rigamaro that's what i'm gonna call it i don't know i don't even know

Speaker 22 you gotta you gotta you gotta continue condition your body

Speaker 22 for the stresses that it's gonna endure during the season in order to run fast you got to practice fast you hear what she said hey i wanted to be on the ground it's hard would you miss that kind of time ocho

Speaker 22 You're not going to miss that kind of time and just pick right up.

Speaker 22 It's just not.

Speaker 22 You sit,

Speaker 22 and I agree with you. You kind of like,

Speaker 22 you just hold your breath, like, man, please, no soft tissue injury, no soft tissue injuries, please. No groins, no quads, no hamstring, no, no calves, no adductors, none of that.

Speaker 22 Because, like you said, Ocho, you going just like that.

Speaker 22 You've been cruising, you've been cruising.

Speaker 22 And then all of a sudden, step on the gas.

Speaker 22 Step on the gas out the blue.

Speaker 27 And what normally happens? Something got to give.

Speaker 22 Yep.

Speaker 22 Man.

Speaker 22 But hopefully they can come to an agreement real soon. The Philadelphia Eagles and the Kansas City Chiefs could make NFL and Super Bowl history this upcoming season.

Speaker 22 There have only been one instance in which two franchises played each other three times in the Super Bowl, and that's the Dallas Cowboys, Pittsburgh Steelers, 75, 79, 95.

Speaker 22 After the Eagles face one another, two of the three big games, the Chiefs are currently to have the highest odds to be a matchup for Super Bowl, what is that, 60?

Speaker 22 Yes, 60 in February of 2026. This would make the franchises the second of their kind to play one another on three separate occasions on the biggest stage.

Speaker 22 To add, no other quarterbacks in the history, no quarterbacks have ever faced each other three times in the Super Bowl. Something Jalen Hurts and Patrick Mahomes have a chance to do.

Speaker 27 I mean,

Speaker 27 it sounds good, but you want me to tell you

Speaker 27 coming out of the AFC this year?

Speaker 22 You got to worry about winning your division. You ain't coming out of nowhere.

Speaker 27 Have you noticed the Bengals have been playing in the preseason, right?

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 26 I just want to make

Speaker 22 all I know. All I know is when L Jack is on the field, Cincinnati can't win.

Speaker 27 I just want to remember.

Speaker 27 When L Jack, if on the field, cincinnati can't win this is the new year uh you think about the past i'm trying to understand why you think about the past and this is 20 if we we in 2025 you telling me what the the the the baltimore ravens did in the past i know what's going to happen this year history the cincinnati bangles for the first time in years have let the starters play in the preseason That's to let you know that there's going to be a difference come week one when the regular season starts.

Speaker 27 So what the Ravens did last year or any years before that don't mean nothing and don't matter when it comes to football season and 2025.

Speaker 22 Yeah.

Speaker 22 Y'all defense still suspect.

Speaker 22 Team record after winning the MVP in 2016. Here we go.
Cam won the MVP in 2015. 2016, they were 6-10.
Matt Ryan won it in 2016. They were 10-6 in 2017.
Tom Brady won it in 2017. They were 11 and 5.

Speaker 22 Patrick Mahomes won it in 2018. They were 12 and 4.
Lamar Jackson in 2019. They were 11 and 5.

Speaker 22 Rogers won it back-to-back years. In 2020, they were 13 and 4.
And in 2021, they were 8-9. Mahomes won it again in 2022, 11-6.
Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 22 2023, they were 12-5. Josh Allen, 2024.

Speaker 22 We'll remain to be seen what their record will be.

Speaker 27 Well, look, look,

Speaker 22 what you think the record is going to be?

Speaker 27 The bills?

Speaker 27 Yes. Listen,

Speaker 27 they're going to be way above 500. I can tell you that.

Speaker 22 Well, that's the way to go out on the limb.

Speaker 27 If I could tell you what the bills' record was going to be, I go play the lotto because I'm going to know the numbers.

Speaker 22 You don't have to be exact.

Speaker 22 But I'm saying, they're going to be 11 and 6, they're going to be 12 and 5, 13 and 4, 14 and 3.

Speaker 27 I like 12 and five

Speaker 27 i like 12 and five

Speaker 27 i definitely did they listen they they knowing them and knowing josh especially with the chip he got on his shoulder coming off mvp season

Speaker 27 yeah they they might

Speaker 22 i don't know why he got a chip lamar should have a chip that's a whole nother conversation i'm not

Speaker 22 even gonna break that up lamar said they got by mvp and we and and

Speaker 27 we should have left out of that with a victory absolutely absolutely they they gonna to be good.

Speaker 27 I think, man, the goddamn bills are going to be in contention every single year.

Speaker 27 As long as you got 17 at the helm, boy.

Speaker 27 As long as you got 17 at the helm,

Speaker 27 there's going to be a team. I don't know what team is going to be.

Speaker 27 That's going to surprise us. Because

Speaker 27 the same teams are going to be in the hunt this year. Same team is going to be in contention.

Speaker 22 Same good quarterback.

Speaker 22 Because they got the same good quarterback.

Speaker 27 But then there's going to be one team that surprised us. Every year, there's a team that comes out of nowhere that plays extremely well.

Speaker 27 And I'm going to go out on a limb.

Speaker 27 People are probably going to laugh at me. I told you how I felt about the Panthers, right?

Speaker 27 Yep. The Panthers and the Bears.
I think the Panthers and the Bears are going to surprise people. All right.
That's it. Okay.
That's it.

Speaker 27 People in the chat, you might laugh at me, but when it happens, remember who said it first.

Speaker 27 The Panthers and the Bears are going to surprise people.

Speaker 22 Ocho, check this out.

Speaker 22 A 2020 study conducted found that dogs are capable of what scientists call third-party social evaluation, meaning they can observe how a stranger interacts with their owner and use that information to make character judgment.

Speaker 22 Dog assesses social interaction and make moral judgment based on observation. They're not just loyal, they are socially intelligent with the ability to detect fairness, cooperation, and intent.

Speaker 22 When someone mistreats their human, dogs remember and may respond with distrust or avoidance.

Speaker 27 I like that.

Speaker 27 And the reason they call it man's best friend.

Speaker 22 That's right. That's why my boy loves Jan.

Speaker 22 And when people mistrust, mistreat me.

Speaker 22 Yep. I feel you.
I see you.

Speaker 22 Yeah, I just

Speaker 22 stand on some tennis birds and say, hey. Don't be doing our daddy like that.

Speaker 27 I would love to get a dog, man, but I just, I told you.

Speaker 22 You going too much. I know.

Speaker 27 Listen, if I get a dog, he's going to fly with me.

Speaker 27 He'll be my emotional support animal.

Speaker 27 I just, I just,

Speaker 27 I can't, I cannot, I cannot. You tell me stories on nightcap and I start crying.

Speaker 27 If you say the right thing,

Speaker 27 when we first started the show, you talk about a dog. I'm sitting here crying.
You're telling me about a dog that's no longer here. that ain't had no

Speaker 27 relationship with me and i couldn't take it

Speaker 27 you think I'm going to get a dog

Speaker 27 at this age, and he passed away, and I'm supposed to. Oh, hell no!

Speaker 22 Man, I can't, I can't imagine being without one.

Speaker 22 I can't, I can't, I can't imagine being without one, Ocho.

Speaker 22 All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one, Ocho. Now it's time for our final segment of the evening, chat.
It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 27 I don't see how y'all do it, boy.

Speaker 22 Stew Baby Love TV said, Ocho, go to timeout. You know what Dylan Gabriel meant.

Speaker 27 Y'all just wanted to mean that.

Speaker 22 Brigitte Maxie said, same coach Lanning who plays golf with Stefanski. Ocho, don't play, don't downplay nastiness.
Plus, he threw check downs all downs all.

Speaker 22 He didn't ball.

Speaker 22 East Coast Camp said, oh cho, Ray Charles can see he was throwing shade at Shador. And Skip would say, put your glasses on.

Speaker 22 Me Shackle Baltimore would say, maybe the coach said that to him, and he repeated it.

Speaker 22 983 made, he's been in college six years. He's had media training.
We don't care if Bo Knicks was the quarterback. They share the same coach.
That same language rubbed off on him, rubbed on him.

Speaker 22 He meant it. if shador called the press media entertainers to their face world war three would have happened but dylan they say next question trade 12

Speaker 27 uh 10 12 down there in new orleans we're

Speaker 22 i take care of him

Speaker 22 i love cc 26 as he was taking shots at 12 mr pick six

Speaker 22 Kurt West said, Dink and Dunk Dylan looked less like effective Jeff, look like a less effective Jeff Garcia in that number five Browns jersey.

Speaker 22 Euro Yanaz said, are the Steelers.

Speaker 27 They say people so mean?

Speaker 22 But they play tonight, boy.

Speaker 22 They don't play by the Shador.

Speaker 22 Euro Yanaz said, are the Steelers a playoff team?

Speaker 27 Hell yeah.

Speaker 27 And I'm not saying that because of the goddamn quarterback. I'm saying that's simply because of the defense.

Speaker 27 If they play like I know they they can play with the name they got on paper,

Speaker 27 man,

Speaker 27 absolutely.

Speaker 22 Hello, Joe. This question is specifically for you.
It says, I love y'all. Haven't missed an episode.
Any advice for me,

Speaker 22 re-integrating to my wife, to my home after six months' tour, to my wife now and four-year-old. I got less than 60 days left.
Not going to lie. i'm excited

Speaker 22 so how does he you know he's been away for six months ojo and he wants to get re-ingraded reintegrated into his home with his wife and his four month old he wants to know what's the best way to do it

Speaker 27 that's a good one bro that's a good one you you better you better equipped to answer that than me he asked me

Speaker 27 what hey what uh

Speaker 27 Be creative, what? Be creative. Be something, do something, do something.

Speaker 22 Oh, Joe, the man been away for six months. He tried to get reintegrated in his home.
He's been away from six months on tour.

Speaker 27 Yeah, that's why I said do something she's not used to you doing.

Speaker 27 I don't know what that would be. You know, you know what your wife likes.
Do something you've never done before. Something different.

Speaker 27 If you've been on tour that long, that means you come home with a little bag. You know, bring her something nice.
Don't do them flowers. Don't do them flowers and none of that bullshit.

Speaker 27 Do something different. You know,

Speaker 27 it's hard for me to tell you what to do because you married to her, so you know what she like.

Speaker 27 Yeah, don't, don't take my goddamn cheap ass advice. Shit.

Speaker 22 So if you was going, let's see the Cambodian queen.

Speaker 22 You going away for six months? Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 22 You going away from six. My baby.

Speaker 27 Yeah, she watching too. Hey, hey, honey.

Speaker 22 How you, so how you, how you come back, how you, how you come back and reintegrate, you know, y'all got a kid. Let's just say y'all don't, but if you had a kid four years old.

Speaker 27 We having twins, but go ahead. I'll let you.

Speaker 27 We having twins. Go ahead.

Speaker 22 How would you go about it?

Speaker 27 I'm doing too, right there, I like that. I like that.
And especially when it comes to stuff like that, I'm very creative, huh? I'm very creative.

Speaker 27 Like, the first thing I'm thinking about right now, too, they have,

Speaker 27 I've been gone for six months. You've been home with the kids.

Speaker 27 I got to take you somewhere nice.

Speaker 27 I got to take you somewhere nice. That's where we're going.
Somewhere nice. You know where I want to go, go, huh? I want to go to Saudi Arabia, right?

Speaker 27 They have a resort,

Speaker 22 bro. You just got from overseas.
You tried to turn around and go back overseas.

Speaker 27 Yeah, but I need to get out the states, huh? I need to get out the states. Now, I'm thinking of somewhere nice he hadn't been.
Now they just got these new resorts in Saudi Arabia.

Speaker 27 Stay with me, real quick, huh?

Speaker 27 I forgot, I can't remember the name of them. They look like,

Speaker 27 you know, Star Wars, right?

Speaker 27 Yeah. It's like these, they almost look like Star Wars spaceships in the middle of the ocean.
Literally, I'm assuming they build it, build it themselves.

Speaker 27 I was just goodling it too, huh?

Speaker 22 Ocho, you just come off, seem like what is a deployment? Are you meaning to tell me you're going to turn around and go back?

Speaker 27 Absolutely. I'm going to say, well, nice, huh? And when you see it,

Speaker 27 when I find the link.

Speaker 22 Ocho, you going overseas

Speaker 22 on a military salary. Me?

Speaker 27 Yes. You limit my money, man.

Speaker 22 Why are you going to limit my money? Because he's in the military. His money is limited.

Speaker 22 Oh, shit. Damn.

Speaker 27 Okay.

Speaker 27 Come on, man.

Speaker 27 But now

Speaker 27 you're giving me hypotheticals, and then you hypothetically limited my goddamn funds.

Speaker 22 Because hypothetically, his funds are limited.

Speaker 27 Well, there's only so much you can do.

Speaker 22 Okay.

Speaker 22 Let him ball out on the budget.

Speaker 22 First of all, maybe, maybe, maybe have someone, you know, I understand you probably probably want to see the kid spend some time with the kid but maybe have your mom have a grandma or family member take the kid and y'all go good get a little steak

Speaker 27 what hey

Speaker 27 shabara resort

Speaker 27 shabara a chat chat hey look at that chat shabara

Speaker 27 s-h-e-b-a-r-a resort

Speaker 27 That's that's that's where I would go, but I got some bar.

Speaker 22 I got some bar pizza money. That's what I got.
Sabara.

Speaker 22 You remember in the mall how they have s-b-a-r-r-o that pizza place in the mall that's the kind of money i got so that place i ain't going i guarantee you like it when you check it out

Speaker 22 oh i believe it derek guarantee i guarantee i guarantee i won't like it when i check it out because you know why because when i check out and i see that bill i ain't number 2 000 tonight

Speaker 27 And you done been, you listen, you done been, you done, you done flew private. Tell ass ass to show it to you.
Ask Jordan to show it to you.

Speaker 27 Yeah, that's like that. Hey, Chad, tell me what y'all think, chat.
Shabbar Resort.

Speaker 22 Oh, Jordan says he might have some money because he gets a housing allowance. What does he get?

Speaker 22 A grocery allowance and a per diem. So he might have a little money stashed.

Speaker 27 Yeah, it's not that much. It's starting at $2,400.
What is SAR? $9,000. What is SAR?

Speaker 22 What's $9,000?

Speaker 27 I mean, it says SAR in front of it, but then it

Speaker 27 says 9,000. It's all together.

Speaker 27 I don't know, man.

Speaker 22 That's your resort.

Speaker 27 Don't worry about it. That's where I'm going.
I'm thinking about it.

Speaker 27 I'm ready to go now.

Speaker 27 Oh, I cursed my bad.

Speaker 22 Bro, I think the thing is that the first thing you do, you come home. You hug your wife.
You tell her how much you love her.

Speaker 22 You tell her how much you miss her and how much you're happy to be home, be back

Speaker 22 on American soil. Shit.

Speaker 27 Get her pregnant again.

Speaker 22 Oh, Lord, have mercy. Your child, you got a four-year-old.

Speaker 22 He or she's going to be excited to see dad, which they haven't seen in a very, very, in six months. To them, six months is six years.

Speaker 22 So I don't really know how much, you know, you know,

Speaker 22 you haven't been, you haven't been around her in a long time. She hasn't been around you in a long time.
She's gotten into a routine. You've kind of gotten into a routine.
And so you got to kind of

Speaker 22 reintegrate yourself without stepping on each other, without getting in each other's way, because

Speaker 22 you've been without each other for six months.

Speaker 27 Man, listen, man, get back in there, man. Have another child, man.

Speaker 22 Hello, have mercy. Man, that ain't the answer to everything.
I'm sorry. Hey, Uncan Ocho, please wish my wife, Carrie, happy anniversary.
11 years of marriage and 16 years together. P.S.

Speaker 22 Ocho, take your time. You'll be blessed.

Speaker 22 Carrie,

Speaker 22 Epry underscore 1990 wants to wish you a happy wedding anniversary. Y'all have been married for 11 years, a little over a decade, but you guys have been together for 16 years.

Speaker 22 That's a feat in and of itself. So congratulations.
Hopefully you get another 16 years together. And these 16 will be even better than the previous 16.

Speaker 22 Uh

Speaker 22 has baby dogs. Ocho has a baby french fry.
Anyone who has a problem needs to go play on the road during rush hour. Yes, I love my dogs.
And Ocho love French fry.

Speaker 22 And because she hadn't been around, she hadn't probably seen Ocho. She's like, hey, I want to, hey, it's my time to shine.

Speaker 27 Hey, you know the game tomorrow, right?

Speaker 27 I'm playing on CBS, man.

Speaker 22 Oh, the big three.

Speaker 27 Make sure you tune in. So

Speaker 27 we're not on the show tomorrow, huh?

Speaker 22 Yeah,

Speaker 22 we got the show tomorrow at 7, right? Yes. Yeah.

Speaker 22 7, 8.

Speaker 27 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 22 We on it tomorrow at 8.

Speaker 27 Oh, yeah. Y'all see what I...

Speaker 22 That boy, KSB, just responded, man, you answer. Oh, you're going to have my wife hating me.

Speaker 22 You're right. You're right.

Speaker 22 yeah bro just take your time it's been a minute since you guys have been together hey spend some quality time just let her know how much you miss her uh the kid uh uh i don't know if it's a a boy or girl spend some time and hey ask her what you want to do maybe hey maybe she's gonna have maybe she's gonna have her side of the family come pick the baby up maybe you have your side of the family come pick together up and y'all just spend some time together just kick it in

Speaker 22 oh cho my question is uh is what would it be like if michael Jackson and Prince did a song together back in the 90s? Woo! Woo!

Speaker 22 They couldn't.

Speaker 27 Why not?

Speaker 22 Who gonna sing first?

Speaker 22 I'm just being real.

Speaker 22 Who sang it first?

Speaker 27 They would have worked it out.

Speaker 22 Think about it. If I'm not mistaken, there's a clip where Prince, Michael Jackson asked Prince to be in,

Speaker 22 was it beat it?

Speaker 27 He said, no.

Speaker 22 He said, first of all,

Speaker 22 he says,

Speaker 22 your ass is mine.

Speaker 22 You're not finna say that to me.

Speaker 22 And I'm not finna say that to you.

Speaker 22 So

Speaker 22 the song ain't going anywhere.

Speaker 27 I got you. I got you.
I got you.

Speaker 22 So again,

Speaker 22 who's singing first?

Speaker 22 It was one thing to get them to compilation together to sing we are the world. I don't know if you remember that night.

Speaker 22 Okay, that's one thing. But you're talking about Michael Jackson and Prince.

Speaker 22 Who's singing first on the song, Ocho?

Speaker 27 I got you.

Speaker 27 Michael's a legend. Prince is a legend.
You would think two people.

Speaker 27 of that magnitude would be able to work as one.

Speaker 22 Oh, you think?

Speaker 22 And

Speaker 22 you think they got that way doing that, huh? Is that how you, that's what you're thinking?

Speaker 22 Okay, I didn't think so.

Speaker 22 Only, only, only Jesus and Santa Claus is bigger than Michael Jackson.

Speaker 27 Yeah.

Speaker 22 And he did it with no social media.

Speaker 22 No internet.

Speaker 27 Oh, he didn't need. He didn't need it.
Can you imagine?

Speaker 22 MJ.

Speaker 22 The original MJ. There have been a lot lot of MJs since, but he is the OG.

Speaker 22 Guys, thank you so much for joining us tonight. Man, we really, really appreciate it.

Speaker 22 You could have been anywhere. You could have been doing anything, but you chose to spend a couple of hours with Ocho and I on Nightcap.
We can't thank you enough.

Speaker 22 I don't know if we ever say it or we can properly, adequately express our appreciation for what you've been able to do for us.

Speaker 22 So from sincerely, from the bottom of my heart and Ocho and everybody at Nightcap, thank you guys for joining us.

Speaker 22 Y'all know me. I'm your favorite Unc Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host.
That's Liberty City's own. That's Madden Adjusted Rating.

Speaker 22 Bingo Ring of Fame Re, Pro Bowler, All-Pro.

Speaker 22 That's Chad Ocho Sinco Johnson. He's also French Fry Father.
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That, Melissa, we can't thank you enough.

Speaker 22 And we want to wish you the absolute, very, very best at the World Championships, September 13th through the 21st. 21st.
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