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Cook is seeking a contract extension, but was present at mandatory minicamp, reported to training camp, and had participated thus far.

Kept it short when asked why he sat out.

Business, he said, would ask if he will practice Monday.

Business.

Will James Cook be in full pass

for Buffalo Bills week one against the Ravens.

It's being reported.

I don't know if it's true.

We got to provide context for everything now, Ocho, is that he will ask for a deal similar to what the Eagles gave Saquon.

James, I don't think you're going to get that, bro.

I'm just going to be honest with you.

I think you're

a fabulous young running back,

but

you're not finna get something comparable to

Saquon.

I don't think you're going to get something comparable to

Mac, C-Mac.

i don't think you'll get nothing comparable to d henry what what what does derrick henry make ash

16

oh that's that's tough

they just because oh joe we got to think about oh joe they just started paying running backs the last two years they it's tough and listen they they they they started paying the running backs the last two years and they playing the tier one running backs right you know I see

as as as as

two right two right he's he's right there you know he

he was an intricate part of that offense last year.

He was an intricate part of that offense last year and had very, very, very many plays.

Very, very many plays.

Because he fits very well in that system along with Josh.

Saquon.

That's one.

Okay.

K.

Henry.

Okay.

C-Mac.

Let me ask you a question.

Okay.

So we're going to put Josh Jacobs.

You like him next, Jonathan Taylor.

I forgot about J.

I forgot about JT.

He's in that class, though.

He's in that.

You know, you know, you know, who don't talk about enough too, since we're on the topic of running backs?

Kyron Williams over there with the Rams.

Oh, Kyron Williams, yeah, yeah.

Excuse me, Joe Mixon had a nice year.

Uh,

I

I mean,

another 20 million.

I just don't see it.

Now, I'm not saying, look, deserve, earn.

I don't see them paying

that asking price.

Saquon is at 20 million.

Christian McCaffrey is at 19 million.

Derrick Henry is at 15 million.

Jonathan Taylor is at 14 million.

Alvin Kamara is at 12,250.

Josh Jacobs, 12.

Aaron Jones, 10.

James Conner, 9.

David Montgomery, 9.5.

Well, James Conner is 9.5.

David Montgomery, 9.125.

And Ramondre Stevenson is at 9 million.

So you see, 10 is at 9 million.

20 is at...

20 million.

So he's going to have to fit somewhere in there.

I don't see him leapfrogging Taylor Henry McCaffrey.

He said he wants something comparable to Saquon.

Saquon's at the top of the food chain at 20.6.

And he just came off of 2,000.

He just came off offensive player of the year.

And he ran his team to the Super Bowl.

That's tough.

That's tough.

I love Cook.

Derrick Henry just had 1,921 yards, led the league in rushing touchdowns.

We know Christian McCaffrey the year before.

He was offensive player of the year.

We know what he is when he's healthy.

Jonathan Taylor,

because Saquon and Dee Henry had such unbelievable seasons, we forget he had an unbelievable season also.

But because those two guys were battling out for 2000 and Saquon got it, and Henry was like 79 yards short, we kind of forgot about him.

And we know Josh Jacobs,

what he

really?

Brother Cook, hold a hold of Jane Cook.

My home team got to get his money, though, man.

He got to get it.

He can't be more than 25, Ocho.

See, oh, so listen, if he's not more than 25, right?

If he's not more than 25, there's no reason why he can't be slaughtered at right about

12, huh?

12 or 13.

12 or 13 is fair.

Even if at 25, you still got a lifespan of maybe another seven years, especially in that offense.

over there in buffalo in that pacific offense you can still like i don't think there are that many running backs backs you can go find right now that can do what James Cook does.

I don't think people, let's not be fooled.

He'll be 26 on, he'll be 26 in September.

He's 25.

He's got that 13, man.

Stop playing.

Give him that 13.

He's young.

It's not that many running backs that can do what he does.

We're talking about coming out the backfield, lining up the spot.

Yeah, he can run it out.

I agree.

He can catch the ball out the backfield, bro.

But see, Ocho, but see, you see how you're being realistic?

You say somewhere between 12 and 13.

That's big money.

Bro, bro, he said he wants a deal comparable to Saquon.

20.

And Saquon, think about it, Mocho.

Saquon signed a free agent deal.

Saquon prayed so good, they tore the deal up and made him the highest paid.

Even after signing a free agent deal, Derrick Henry played so well last year, even after signing a free agent deal, they tore it up and gave him a new deal.

Damn, man.

I want my dog to get paid too, man.

That's home team, man.

That's home team.

Damn.

But I think the thing is, Ocho, we got to be realistic.

They just started paying running backs the last year and a half.

They're paying the special ones, though.

They're not paying any and everybody.

They're paying the special.

When James makes

what he does, like, he ain't no motherfucker.

He ain't no slouch.

Now, he's an important part of that offense.

He makes that offense go.

Now, we know, we know Josh Allen.

We know what Josh Allen is.

He's that boy.

Josh Allen is over there with no superstars, no true number one running backs, but I mean, wide receivers, but you do have another weapon and goddamn James Cook.

Huh?

You got uh Shakir,

nice, solid.

Just got paid in the offseason, if I'm not mistaken.

Keon Coleman, how cole up-and-coming young bull.

Don't they got the kid from San Diego?

Didn't they?

Did they didn't they sign him in France?

San Diego, the Chargers?

Yeah, I'm San Diego.

The LA Chargers, yeah.

Didn't they sign Palmer?

Josh Palmer is over there, huh?

Is it Josh?

Josh Palmer, right?

I think it's her name, Josh, if I'm not mistaken.

Hey, God damn, but that's a tough one.

Listen, honestly,

I wouldn't want to be an owner.

I wouldn't want to be a GM.

Yep.

I don't want to be a GM.

You're about to be 26 birthday, Josh.

Yeah, yeah.

I wouldn't want to be a GM when it comes to like fringe, fringe situations like this.

We can go either way.

I want to be a GM where it comes to no-brainers.

Oh, that's easy.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

But no, no, no.

You got to make tough decisions.

I don't like the tough decisions like this.

Because you can't keep everybody.

You got to decide, okay.

do i get off this guy and then you one time you get off somebody like you let somebody go and then they go gangbusters kind of like what derrick henry did they're like what the hell were you thinking about you let derrick henry go to bro.

But also, listen, Giants, Giants, what are you thinking about?

You let Saquon go?

Tennessee, what the hell are you thinking?

You let A.J.

Brown go?

This is the thing, huh?

You have to think about it.

The timing and the places where these individuals went was very important.

Very important.

Saquon left a disgruntled, a not-so-good offense in New York and went to the Philadelphia Eagles with the best offensive line.

Tennessee, I'm not sure what you were thinking or what you were looking at, but

Derrick Henry.

Derrick henry then the derrick henry derrick henry gonna be derrick henry wherever he go

okay

so

that's tough

yeah we we wish you to i i i

cook get your money baby do what you got

maybe 13 14 15 maybe in that range but that 19 20 13 5 13 13 5 he only 25 he only 13 5.

hey josh allen josh allen man you you need to to interfere, intervene.

Intervene, please.

Intervene.

Listen, you know how much power Josh got?

Do you understand?

I don't think people understand.

Do you know how much power the quarterback, the quarterback has in a situation like this?

Man, Josh goes up there right now, man.

What's the owner's name?

I forgot his name.

I met him.

Very cool.

Gula.

Gula.

His daughter's really good at tennis, huh?

And she's really good at tennis.

You know, Mr.

Pagula, man, Josh, go up there, man.

Listen, Mr.

Pagula, I don't want any more distractions.

I don't want any more distractions,

brother.

Cook, brother Cook is a very important part of our offense.

He takes some of the pressure off me, some of the pressure off my shoulders.

Let's find a way to get this.

Nah, bro, I gave you 330 million.

I need to put more pressure on your shoulders.

So get out of my office.

Nah, hell nah.

As a matter of fact, I'm finna trade it.

For three, hey, for 330 million, for 300, what, for 330 million, what I'm paying you and 250 million guaranteed, Ocho?

Nah, bro, I ain't trying to take no pressure off your shoulders.

Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to do that, Josh.

Hey, that's a good one.

Hey, that's a good one.

I forgot he paid Josh all that goddamn money.

Oh, shoot.

The Browns were off today.

Here's how the four quarterbacks have performed through nine training camp practices.

Kenny Pickett has not done team drills since last week due to a hamstring injury.

Shadur Sanders missed one practice team rep with arm soreness.

But Joe Flacco is 54 of 92, three touchdowns, no interceptions.

Sanders, Shadur, 49 of 70, six touchdowns, no interceptions.

Dylan Gabriel, 62 of 113, four touchdowns, two picks.

Kenny Pickett, 23 of 34, three touchdowns, one interception.

Yeah.

Shadura reported that, man, I got a lot of people.

Right, that rotated cup.

That little rotated cup.

I mean,

you're throwing a lot, you know.

For him to say that.

And not just eat it because he is in a stiff competition battle,

that tells you that it's bothering him.

It's bothering him.

Because a lot of times when you're in a stiff competition, Ocho, look, me, I was a low-round draft pick.

You have to worry about you, a second-round pick, but I have a little nick.

Nah, bro, I'm in a competition.

I'm good.

You eat, you sit on thing, knee sore, you know, ankle sore, shoulder sore, something sore, you know.

You just, you just, you know, you got a thigh bruise or something, Ocho.

You just eat that.

Listen,

the body will tell you when to shut down

the body will tell you when it shut down and i listen the quarterback tracker that's cool that's all fine and dandy to me it doesn't mean much it doesn't mean much to me i don't care how much you complete i don't care how much how many how many touchdowns you've thrown in practice against a team that sees you every day against a team against the defense where everything is scripted

The all the defense of players, the defense of the coaches, everything is scripted perfectly.

So the quarterback makes the right decision on where to go with the ball based on what's across from you.

I want to look like on the coverage.

I want to get a look against a certain coverage.

So I dial up that coverage.

I call up this play against that coverage because I want to see what this play looks like against cover two or cover six or quarters or cover one or cover three, seven, cloud, 25, whatever the case may be.

Same thing in the defense.

I want to see this defense against this formation.

So you call this defense and you tell the offense to give you this formation.

Yep, that's why I I listen, I take that with a grain of salt.

And also another thing, the fact that when it comes to the interceptions or even the completions or the touchdowns, when you're playing against your own team, right?

And

the defense has seen it over and over and over.

They know the concepts.

They know the formations.

They know what's coming.

So what do defenders in DBs tend to do?

They tend to cheat a little bit.

They tend to sit on routes.

Listen, I want to see what you look like in the preseason when they don't know what you're running, when the bullets are flying for real.

exactly when it's when it's like really go time and you get practiced 100 times you get in the game it's completely different the speed of the game is is five times faster than what it is in practice and you don't realize that until you get out there on a sunday that's when i want to see shadour that's when i'm going to see dylan gabriel and kenny pickett whenever he gets healthy we already know who's going to be the starter the starter is going to be the veteran the starter is going to be the veteran who's been around for a very long time that's neither here nor there but coming down to the the preseason and how they perform in the preseason, it's going to tell who's going to be second strength.

That's it.

You know, I used to hold Ocho,

what you just talked about?

DBs be cheating and then getting it and getting the game.

And the first thing I say, oh, I guess he didn't tip that rod off, huh?

You jumping everything, Brad.

You're looking like time and practice.

You knocking out everything.

Hey, you tipped that one off.

I guess he ain't tipped that one off.

Nah, you looked at the card, you saw the formation, you saw where the ball was going, and you knocked it down.

You can't play, you can't play that on Sunday.

But come, but come game time, you ain't knocked nothing down.

You only knocked the man down.

Somebody else got to make the tackle.

That's different.

That's what makes me mad.

Brother,

oh,

I never looked at, okay, they got this defense.

Hey, I'm just, hey, when I was scout team, I'm going out there.

Hey,

oh, he getting the ball.

Hey, man, let me get that right there.

I'm following the ball.

But he goes, they're going to go look.

They go look where the ball is going.

They knock the ball down.

Bro, stop.

You ain't knocked the ball down all year.

Now, all of a sudden, you want to be time.

Yeah, man.

Listen, when the lights are on, that's going to tell you all you need to know.

Exactly.

Because you're going to get somebody that's fighting for his life

that's as scared, if not more scared than you.

I got it.

So, yeah, that's what I want to see.

But, you know, look,

Ocho, you know, sometimes, you know, sometimes

making a team come down to injuries.

I've seen guys be in a commanding position and get nicked.

And the opportunity.

goes to somebody else and if somebody else gets an opportunity to shine.

I hate this for Shador because, like you said, but he is in a quarterback battle.

Hopefully, you know, with some rest,

some ice stem,

he's able to go out there and perform at a high level.

But, you know,

you're throwing.

That's why a lot of times, you know, they bring extra quarterbacks in because the quarterback arm does get thrown because he's throwing a lot more than what he threw in the offseason.

And the last thing you want, you don't want, you don't, you don't want a sore arm, but you don't want a dead arm either.

So

there's a balance.

There's a fine line between making sure I get enough throws in, but I'm not throwing too much, but I'm not throwing too little either.

But Ocho says he don't care about Flacco being 54-92 with three touchdowns.

Shador, 49 of 70, six touchdowns, zero picks.

Dylan Gabriel, 62 of 113,

four touchdowns.

two interceptions.

Kenny Pickett, they hadn't played a whole lot,

tweaked that hamstring or he has a strain in his hammy and uh kind of been sidelined.

So, but he's uh, he has the fewest attempts, but he's 23 or 34, three touchdowns, one interception.

That don't mean nothing.

Them numbers of stats, that don't mean nothing.

What you gonna look like with the flight phone, baby?

Hey, you a they don't mean nothing to us, but when I was getting them tubs, they meant something to me.

Hey, Ocho, man, what I'm getting, hey, man, let me catch a touchdown or get a 20-yard, uh, 15-yard game against the number one defense game against the number one defense.

I feel you, hey,

bro, this is the starters.

This, these are the guys that's gonna be playing on Sunday.

Yeah, and me

when uh the Browns' first preseason game

is this week, isn't it?

Everybody open everybody this week because the Hall of Fame game, so everybody's gonna start playing Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

That's what it's all about.

So, we're gonna

get some time because they don't, they don't they play Friday, Friday.

I said they're playing Friday.

Okay.

And they're playing the Panthers.

And the thing is, Ocho, is that

I don't even know who the starter is, but we know starters don't really play in the preseason.

And if they do, they get a drive or something like that, and then they go hit the ground running on

Sunday.

Wait a minute.

It's preseason.

So it's going to be the Dylan Gabriel and Shadura Sanders show.

Right.

But that's what I'm saying.

Because the starters are not going to play.

play, so they're gonna get they're gonna get an opportunity

absolutely.

Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, I'm gonna be tuned in too.

I'm gonna be tuned in because I know I know I know of well, hell, should Dylan Gabriel too?

Because he played and he's played under the lights and he showed out.

George played under the lights and he showed out different ballgame in the NFL, baby.

It's a whole different ball game.

You got to be able to process that information very fast.

All I know, I don't know how they do it, but I looked at everybody was trying to take food off my table.

Everybody was trying to steal my car.

Everybody was trying to put Granny back in our own house.

I don't know what they, look, I don't know what, I don't know what

their focus is and how they make sure they get themselves ready to go do what they need to do.

But that's what I thought.

Everybody has something that gets them into the place where they can do what they need to do, Ocho.

Whatever that may be.

I got kids.

I got a wife.

Kids need to go to private school.

Hey, whatever.

Yeah.

Something, whatever, whatever, whatever gets you there.

Whatever it is, do that.

The nay says, I really never tried to prove anybody.

I'll just try to prove me right.

Because if I prove me right, you'll be wrong.

You will.

And then everybody was like, I knew, oh, I knew it because I saw him.

No, you didn't.

I heard what you said.

That's not what you're saying.

I know what you're saying now.

Man, man, I knew, hey, I knew he was going to go to the Hall of Fame.

What, really?

I didn't even know that.

I was hoping I could just, I hope I could just begin a season in the way it started off for me.

You know, the people just be talking.

They do.

Lie.

Oh, your people lie to your face.

I told such and such.

No, you didn't.

Man, I knew, man, I saw Ocho at high school.

Man, I knew Ocho, man, I knew Ocho was going to the NFL.

Really?

You knew that, huh?

As that man bounced around the country trying to find a school to take him, you knew he was going to go to the NFL.

Okay.

And high school, I wasn't, I was, I was okay.

There's a way a boy high school down here

back in the night

boy, a

Miami Northwestern, back then in 96.

Parol City, North

Mountain.

St.

Thomas.

St.

Thomas has always been good.

You know what?

I didn't know much about St.

Thomas back.

I only knew about the inner city schools.

New Orleans,

Jackson, man.

So I like, yeah, but I'm like you.

Hopefully, like I said, Shador is able to go

and get an opportunity to say

what he can do.

I'm ready.

I remember my first time in high school, you know,

when I was that quarterback.

Blue 80.

Blue 80.

Alert, alert, alert, alert, alert, alert.

Boy, wasn't nobody said no alert back then.

You just ran the plate.

But you know, I was a quarterback at Beach High, now.

I was a quarterback at Miami Beach.

I was trying to follow in Samari's footsteps.

Hey, you know, I was on the same team with Samari, Dwayne Starks, Terry Cousins.

Yeah, I played the ball.

I was the baby.

I was the freshman.

I think Samari ended up going to Baltimore too, because Samari, I played against Samari.

Samari covered me in Tennessee and Baltimore.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It's funny.

We was all on the same, we was all on the same team.

And y'all didn't win nothing.

Nah, it was just us, man.

It was just us.

It was just us.

That's more than enough.

D.

Starks was the quarterback.

Samari was a receiver.

Then D.

Starks left, went to UM.

Then Samari was his senior year.

He was a quarterback.

I was a receiver.

Then when Samari left,

then I went to the quarterback.

Oh, Choe, we have breaking.

We have breaking news.

Adam Schefter is reporting.

David White has been selected as the NFLPA Interim Executive Director.

The statement read out of it.

Jalen reads, Mabin, on behalf of the NFLPA Board of Players Representatives, I'm proud to share what David White has been elected to serve as our interim executive director.

This decision is a result of comprehensive

player-led process.

We understand the urgency to fill the role, and we did our due diligence to identify the right person to lead our union in this moment.

We have full faith in David to take the union forward and operate in the best interest of our membership.

David has spent much of his career fighting for collectively bargained rights and labor movement and is committed to putting players first in all union does.

We are confident that

he will inspire solidarity and provide the necessary stability during this period of transition.

Soon, we will commence a thorough search process for a permanent executive director.

This process will continue to be player-led as the strength of our union has and will always lie with our membership.

Hey, listen, congratulations.

Congratulations, Brother David White.

You're in a great position, obviously, to

represent us.

You got a tall task ahead of you, baby.

You got a tall task ahead of you.

I wish you nothing but success.

and

getting things done the right way.

And that's pretty much it.

If you guys are are looking for an executive director uh i i am here i can submit my resume um it speaks for itself on and off the field so um i look forward to hearing from you everyone over at the nflpa

you know there's two sides of me there's a johnson there's the ocho you know business Well, we got something we want you to expand.

No, hear this.

Ocho, this Gilly Cam beef is expanding.

First, Cam, again, responded to Gilly.

And then let's listen to Cam.

Damn, Cam responded again.

They still going at it?

Here we go, right.

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Hey,

boy, still going at it, huh?

Listen,

I told them to chill, right?

I told them to chill.

They're not going to listen to me, but you know what?

I i like it huh you hear me you hear me i like it gilly i know you're gonna see this boy i love you you hear me cam i know you're gonna see this boy i love you you hear me y'all keep having at it keep having fun keep jigging you know it's a good thing sometimes

can we advance the ball okay everybody's everybody's made their no the point the points haven't been made but they have to hit you have to keep going

somebody talk about you you talk about them and you keep going back and forth until you until you be like you know what okay you done are you finished is you cool until until somebody stopped until somebody waved a white flag it's okay you know why it's okay it's entertainment why you know what it does for both of their platforms it continues to bring eyes views regardless of what other other people may feel it's entertainment at the end of the day at the end of the day all this because all this because

cam said he doesn't think jalen hurt is a top 10 quarterback and gilly said well

but at what point in time do we advance the ball?

What did Gilly say?

Jalen Hurst did what you couldn't do.

Listen, that's fine.

I like the jigging back and forth.

It's okay.

Listen, you're a prime example of Jones and back in the day.

This is just another

type of Jones and another type of jabbing, going back and forth.

And it's fun.

And you know why I like it?

You know why I really like it?

Because it's going to always stay on the mic, huh?

It's not going anywhere past.

It's going to always stay no different than rap beef no different than 50 and rick ross no different than than kendrick and and and drake i'm not saying it's that big to that magnitude but just still it's going to stay on the mic that's so it makes it fun it's entertaining you know so cam i love you gilly y'all boys man you know

when did cam win with this today because i thought

i think that's from a few days ago from a few days ago yeah okay because i because i i think cam has said something about

about his rap career you know he didn't have no hits or something like that and then gilly responded yeah so i like it i like

i like it man you know let's have some fun you know it's all fun it's all entertainment you know you talk about me i'm gonna talk about you you know you go low i'm gonna go lower

you know hey you know

hey i like it and i i'm i'm loving it and i'm encouraging it on simply because it's staying on the mic that's it it ain't on the web pad

and i like it it's it's fun and

how

how creative can you get

how

well it run okay

gilly did gilly didn't did not play did not play football okay gilly did not have maybe the rap career that he wanted he's been able to transition very well cam

What do you say about Cam?

The guy was a five-star.

He went to the University of of Florida.

Like, I ain't going to get no playing time behind Tim Tebow.

Goes to Blaine Junior College, wins the national championship.

He comes back and go back and look at Cam.

That one year he played at Auburn.

He wins the national championship.

They're 15-0.

He wins the Heisman.

His career, college career, boom.

Chef's kiss.

Yeah.

NFL career.

Rookie of the year.

He's an MVP.

Leads the 10 to a Super Bowl.

But me for me.

Cam is not a one-play guy.

Everybody wants to reduce Cam to that one play in which he didn't jump on the football.

Cam is more than that.

You don't play a decade in this league and only be that.

He's not that.

Okay.

If you say that's his worst moment, his best moment is winning the MVP.

Okay.

So somewhere in the middle is what he is.

We're going to treat it like Jim Masses.

We're gonna take out the high score, we're gonna take out the low score, and we're gonna combine the middle.

We're gonna matter of fact.

Oh, you know what?

I heard, I heard Cam say something.

What Cam say Cam told Gilly,

you will never be able to beat me in nothing.

And he named different sports that Gilly wouldn't be able to beat him in.

But I think there might be one

that I think basketball I'd pay good money to see.

Basketball

Cam gonna try to beat him up.

Man, listen, I can't.

I don't know if Cam can play basketball.

Cam might be not got two muscles.

Hey, but Gilly could hoop, boy.

Gilly could hoop.

I know Cam could, I camp could hoop too.

I would pay whatever to have a fourth and one

in a million dollars worth of game one-on-one.

Now, I'm told, hey, fellas, listen to me.

I know y'all having your verbal sparring match right now.

Listen to what I just said: one-on-one,

fourth and one versus a million dollars worth of game, one-on-one.

I'm giving you ideas because we need to keep making doing one thing.

Stay with me now.

I'm telling you, man.

Damn, Gilly, listen to me.

Keep having fun,

but keep the main thing, the main thing.

Yeah, man.

Yeah, yeah.

Ocho, and then Gilly kind of responded.

He had a birthday party.

Hey, that's the Super Bowl trophy.

Big Dom brought it down to the 24th birthday party.

Hey, that's

dope.

Man, they love, hey, they love Gilly.

They do.

They do.

They love Gilly.

Man, Gilly be in the locker room.

Gilly be coming out there.

Hey, Gilly be having them hype.

I think I'm going to do that with the Bengals, man.

I'm going to do that.

First of all, you know, Gilly born and raised in Philly.

He's been a Philly fan life.

Okay.

You're a Dolphins fan.

You didn't do that for the Dolphins.

I could be like,

you grew up with the Dolphins.

So I could be like,

I got too many jobs.

You will get a Dolphins too?

I don't have time.

I ain't got time.

Good.

Hey, but

I like that.

I love the verbal back and forth between them.

Well, you're going to love this.

Johnny Manzel saw that and tweeted.

Yo, Gilly the kid, you may be the biggest effing loser on the planet, talking like you've been, like you've effing

done anything on the football field.

If I see you, just know I'm going to slap the F

trust.

Well, when did all this happen?

Okay.

I kind of been, you know, I kind of had an eventful week, weekend.

So I've been out.

How did I miss all this?

Well, well,

damn.

All them jobs you've got.

How Johnny got into it?

How Johnny and Gilly, where they going?

Cam.

Johnny's a Highland Trophy winner.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

So, you know, the same thing, Cam like, bro, you talking like you was out there catching touchdown passes, running the football.

I get it.

I get it.

Johnny's like, bro, hold on.

You ain't do nothing to contribute to that.

So, and then I've

bad if it's gonna be a double-ended battle.

This is gonna be the hundred-year war.

Ella, and I think, hello,

Gilly.

When he responded, didn't like that.

Gilly didn't like what Johnny had to say, and this is what he posted.

Mimi and donuts

Coke

What's that?

Not a donut

coke green

Hey, I thought I thought Gideon, I thought he was eating donuts.

I thought it was powder donuts, and he be eating, but okay, I didn't, I didn't.

See, I'm I'm hey, I'm old, man.

I'm old.

I ain't no, so obviously he's taking a shot at Johnny because I guess he has some type of whatever

the bad say you want to slap the ton slap the man on site i don't think he i don't think i don't think but gilly responded gilly says look gilly said some other stuff responding to what johnny said but we ain't going there y'all y'all want to find out what what what what gilly response was outside of that y'all have at it but this is as far as we go with it so johnny johnny uh

Hey, boom.

Here it is.

Here we go again.

We got a money-making opportunity again, Gilly.

In the ring.

Gilly, you know, you know how to, you got that Philly shell on you.

That Philly shell, huh?

You know, think about it.

What Philly Shell are you talking about?

What you mean, Gilly, Gilly could, Gilly could both too, man.

I know Gilly Kaboff.

Gilly and Johnny settle their differences in the ring.

Headgear, 16-ounce gloves, four rounds, three-minute rounds.

You know, oh, you're going to slap me when you see me?

Now's your opportunity.

Boom.

Get the sponsors behind it.

Keep the main thing, the main thing.

Come on, man.

Come on, man.

Gilly, Cam.

Can we be doing this?

No, keep it going.

You made your point.

We got a lot of other stuff to talk about.

We got football season right around the corner.

We got training camp.

We got a lot of stuff we can talk about.

You made your point.

Everybody made their point.

We get it.

I get it.

man.

Yeah, forget what I'm talking about, baby.

Let's make this money.

You hear me?

I'm I'll be Don King.

You ain't got no hair.

It's coming, though.

Wave check.

And this man, and this man over there talking about, man, what those powders donuts?

I thought he was eating powder.

I'm like, Gilly doing sitting there eating them goddamn powder donuts, man, with the stuff all over his face.

So now

I get it now.

I get it now.

I knew you would get it, then My bad, my bad.

Man, you don't, you know.

Lord, have myself.

I don't know about that stuff, man.

I don't know about that stuff, man.

So we're moving on, OJ.

Gilly and Cam ain't going to be doing this no more.

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

What you mean?

Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

Like something, some Cardi B, remember, remember Cardi B, right?

When we beef, beef forever.

I think she's the one that had that quote, and them two is gonna go on forever,

you know,

have to, but I think it should because it could be beneficial for both sides.

I like it.

I think both guys can make content.

Uh, million dollars worth of game been at this gilly while

you heard what you just said, they can make content, right?

But when you do this type of content, you know, with the the

people get tired of hearing you bicker back verbal jabbing you look at the numbers of the verbal jabbing con the verbal jabbing content and your regular content guess who guess which one are gonna have the most views and the most not

yeah

it will

but after but but even guess what i mean people like looking at uh uh like looking out the window when it's raining but after a while they get tired of doing that

it's only been a week huh it's only they've been going at it

they good that plenty.

That's plenty.

That's more than enough time.

I think everybody's made some great points.

It's funny, it's entertaining, but I think now it's time for we can move on.

I love them, boys, man.

Y'all keep

yeah, of course.

I

yeah, I'm looking looking forward to doing uh me and uh with the game.

Oh, you go, you going on there?

Yeah, that's gonna be live.

That's gonna be live.

That's that's gonna be live.

Uh, because I had sat down with both of those guys

individually, you know, because I think because both of them have very interesting stories.

And

I didn't want it to like, I wanted Gilly to have his time.

I wanted Wallow to have his time because I think they have very interesting stories outside of one another.

Now, we could intertwine and we could talk about how do you guys come together and come up with a million dollars with the game and yada, yada, yada.

But I want to hear each of you individual stories.

And then, you know, we can all tie it together in a nice, in a nice bowl.

but uh oh yeah yeah we we that's definitely that's that's a must that's a must

oh joe we got to talk about the usa tracking

you see you seen kitty and uh and noah

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I like it.

A little healthy competition.

Yeah.

No disrespect.

I'm a farmer.

He stared you down.

It's sport.

Emotions.

I'm happy.

Last time we raced, you beat me.

Okay.

He was fresh.

So the excuse for losing is, well, I wasn't fresh.

That's not an excuse.

That's true.

You run rounds.

There's a reason why it's hard.

Everybody, we've seen guys.

You've seen guys, Ocho, like, you got to run rounds.

There's a difference between running rounds and running one race.

I understand.

I understand, but still.

That's why you got to, that's why I respect so much the world record that you say both set, because he said it during rounds.

Just imagine the time that he could have run if he just won one race.

He got fresh legs, not rounds, fresh legs.

Now, look, I'm a firm believer.

You don't like somebody doing something if I'm in a sporting event.

I don't like the guy, hey, taking his time running around the base.

Well, I ain't gonna throw you no ball that you can hit over the fence.

If you don't like me dancing, I tell people all the time, man, T.O.

doing too much.

Keep his ass out of the end zone.

He won't dance.

You don't want him to dance.

Keep him out of the end zone.

You don't want Noah Lyles to stare you down and do all those antics.

Don't let him cross the finish line before you.

That's what DeBogo did at the Olympics.

He didn't want to see all this

oh he beat it hey i mean listen i i like

i ain't got no problem like we don't have we don't have this track is always all goddamn kumbaya oh respect me

no no no no no it's not no they don't get along listen i know i know they don't but this this is okay showing emotion i won i stared you down okay boom you lost Kenny put his hands on Noah you know because of the state you know they did exchange some

bro You all in my lane.

Now we have, now we have a nice rivalry.

I'm not sure when the next time they get to meet up, but guess where everybody's going to be tuned in

at the world championship?

That's where everybody's going to be tuned in

at the world championships, waiting on them to race.

And they all going to have to go through the rounds.

So it won't be any excuses.

Yes.

I'm excited now.

This is good.

This is good.

Yeah, because

you know what, Ocho?

Because

I think

it noah yeah noah is uh the the uh the 100 meter champ yeah at the world so he's all automatic he got an automatic qualifier so that's why he pulled out and says okay i'm just gonna do i'm gonna

okay okay okay

i'm excited listen kenny kenny ran a good race a very very good race noah ran

yeah he ran 970 right he it he pr'd he uh personal best in in the in the 100 at 979 which is also which happens to be the fastest the world leading time this year he comes back, follows it up, runs the rounds, and runs 1962, the 67, which is probably one of his, what,

second fastest time he's ever run

after running rounds.

So

he can't, like you said, feel that he's fresh.

He can't be, he can't be too bad.

Yeah,

he's going to be all right.

He's going to be all right.

Both of them are going to be all right.

I know one thing, they've made watching the sport of track that much more exciting because we have something to look forward to.

We have something to look forward to.

A lot of people is frowned upon in the track world and in the track community, but

now you got people who don't even watch track.

Now, okay, you know what?

Oh, Noah and Kenny, they got into it.

Well, what happened?

Okay, I watched it.

Oh, I saw what Kenny said.

Okay.

I heard what Noah said.

I saw you pushed it.

You know what?

Fuck all that.

I want to tune now.

I want to see what happens when they race next.

This is bringing eyes and viewers to a sport that.

Many watch that are part of the track world.

Now we're going to have eyes and viewers of people that don't even watch track because they want to see what's going to happen when Kenny and goddamn Noah Laos race.

Well, it's hard to get involved because your premier event.

Just imagine if you only had the Super Bowl once every four years.

That's difficult.

Understandable.

You only had the World Series once every four years.

You had the NBA championship once every four years.

The biggest event is once every four years.

And

they race a lot of times it's delayed or you got to get up at the wee out of the morning.

Right,

uh, I think, I think probably you at the uh

LA will probably be highest because, guess what?

It's Pacific time, you know, it ain't the six hours, the nine hours, the 10, 11 hours difference in time.

So, now, hey,

you can watch it at a decent time, you can, you know, a lot of these things, but

think about it, oh Joe.

The 100-meter dash is the signature event.

that thing happened so early that was that was that was yesterday let that sink in that just goes to show you how the luster of the 100 meter dash the man's 100 meter dash that used to close the shuttle that was it yeah bro

you think they let you say boat run on the day that they gonna close the olympics down uh the trial come on man that's you saying

Look, like I said, Kenny, if you don't want the man to showboat, you got to cross the line before he does.

Because if he crosses the line before you, he did the same thing to Arian Knighton when he caught him off the turn and he pulled up and

flipped him.

Hey,

you ain't want T.O.

doing all y'all dances and

signing footballs?

Keep him at the hands on.

Don't be talking about, man.

That's your job.

His job is to dance.

Your job is to keep him from dancing.

I don't have a problem.

I don't have a problem.

Like I said, I think the bigger problem was that when they come up the thing is that he got like in his lane.

Because I ain't got no choice.

Because if he's in his lane, how can I, if I'm in my lane, Ocho, and you're in your lane, how can I push you in your back?

Once you start to hit that curve after you pass the finish line, people run straight.

They don't run in the lane around the curve.

What don't run in my lane?

Look at you.

You catch his elbow direct to the the small of the back.

Then you'd have had him two out there tussling.

Hey, it is what it is.

It is what it is.

Nah, but look.

Usain had some, you know, Usain did his lightning bolts.

And, you know, he's.

Yeah, he had his, he had his,

you know, he.

And, you know, look.

Noah's trying to get the crowd involved.

He's trying to, you know, hey, he's trying to bring excitement.

Today was really good.

There was some, There was some great, the kid from Texas.

The kid is 16.

He ran 142.27

in 800 meters, which is, I'm not mistaken, like the fifth fastest time.

Yes, it might be the fifth fastest time for an American.

That's crazy.

We see Melissa Jefferson go 1065, which is one of the fastest times ever tracked for a woman, and then she backs it up with 2184.

We see Sid, Sid's like, you know what?

I've been so dominant, I'm gonna let somebody else win.

Because y'all know y'all can't see me in the hurdles.

Nobody, I understand Femkin can run all the time she wants.

Ain't nobody past, present, or I am the greatest 400-meter women's hurdler in the history of the sport.

And if y'all keep talking,

but I ain't gonna do it, because she's already said

in post-race interviews, Sydney announces she will

compete solely in the 400-meter

flat and not the hurdles.

Well, she had no choice because Paulino and Al Sawi ain't bulljiving.

They're not bulljiving.

And Sydney is phenomenal, but 4890 ain't going to win it.

I done seen Paulino go 48.11.

I done seen

Go go mid-48.

She's going to have to run.

She's going to have to go low.

and then you go yeah you also have to think about it when it when it comes to track and it comes to some of the times right now

it takes running against the best to pull it up out of you

yeah when they're gonna pull it up out of because pauline paulina can go out uh nasa can go out they can push the pace

they can push the pace now

i wanted sid i wanted sid to go sub

50 in the hurdles and put that record out there so it'd be like Flojo's.

Nobody can tell.

You see a lot of it.

You see a lot of it.

Hey, that 2133 and that 1049.

I'm almost to remember when she said that she went that 2133 and sold.

And she went to,

if I'm not mistaken, the 1049 is what she ran in

in Indy.

I think

the trials were in Indy that year.

There was a lot of talk about the gauges and all that stuff.

But all I know, hey, it's documented down.

But that 2133,

who is that?

Jackson?

Got clothes.

Either Elaine Thompson.

Bro, until someone get below 21.4,

then y'all talk to me.

Then y'all talk to me.

Like, like, until somebody, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, they're going to get you saying, bro, until I see somebody go low, until I see somebody go 965,

then I'm like, hmm.

But until somebody go 965,

ain't no man been not

other than,

who is that?

Tyson Gay?

And what's the guy, the Jamaican?

What's the other Jamaican?

Ran 969.

But ain't no, when's the last time somebody ran ran 971, OJo?

When the last time somebody ran 972?

And y'all talk about breaking 95.

Not happening.

No time.

not anytime soon.

Do y'all realize, baby?

But hey, there was some racing going on today, Ocho.

There was some racing going on today.

Hey, that 800 meters

for Donovan Brazier to come back and have the injuries that he had, and he came back with a 143, and then he comes back today and he wins the trial at 142.16.

Johan, Johan Blake, yeah.

So he and Tyson Gay, they tied with 969.

But you're saying they ran 963, 958, 968?

Boy,

he got a three-fast tie to ever run.

Boy, moving.

Yeah.

I still believe

that he would have ran sub-955 had he not celebrated in Beijing.

If you go back and look at what he's doing the last 10 meters of the race, he's sideways pounding his chest and he's clear of the field.

But we're going to be geeked up.

We're going to be covered.

We're going to be covered ease.

Hey,

hey, that 400 meters.

Somebody might look.

That American record of,

I think.

Sonia Richards Ross, it's 4870.

I think that's the American record.

4760 is the world record, Marita Coke.

And then you got Cratchalova.

So you've only got two women that's ever go sub 48, two, 47.99 and 4760.

Pushing it with Nasser, Paulino, and Sid,

you might get a low sub, you might get a low 48.

You might get sub.

You don't have no choice.

Right conditions,

right track,

Right competitors.

Hey, special things happen when the best of the best are racing each other.

Yep.

Yep.

You might.

Melissa.

Oh, Melissa Jefferson and Julian Alfred, the same Lucian?

Hey, I got to see this.

Because Melissa Jefferson, you know.

I'll tell you, hey, hey, you can't spot her.

That Julian Alfred, hey, she powerful.

She is a powerful woman.

But boy, Melissa Jefferson can scat.

Boy, she can scat.

Oh, oh, she can scat.

She can scat.

Yeah.

But that's going to be the rate.

That's going to be, hey, look.

T.

Shane Thompson.

You got Noah.

You got Bignerick.

You got Oberlik Seville.

I mean, you got some guys.

So

we're going to have some interesting races.

200.

You got Noah.

Kenny says, okay, hey, we're going to put some rounds.

You have some rounds on you.

I'm going to have some rounds on me.

Tobogo isn't quite in shape in the 200.

So we're going to see how that pans out.

But boy, that thing, A,

Julian Affluent and Melissa Jefferson.

This thing, this thing about to get thing about to get interested.

And C.

Sid, and Paulino, and Nasser,

and 400.

Come on with it.

Come on with you.

Come on.

Don't play with it now.

And I just hope the American can get the baton around.

That pull by one.

Yeah.

Yeah, we talked about Melissa Jefferson Wooden.

I'll make sure I put her name.

Sorry.

Melissa Jefferson Wooden.

Fifth fastest time ever covered by a woman on her way to a second national championship in the 100 meters.

1065.

De Lila Muhammad.

Won the hurdle.

She retired to end of the championship.

She came out of retirement, ran a few.

Sid was not in this.

It was a Trojan sweep.

The little Muhammad got one to run the goal.

What's the lady's name?

She got a brother played with the

Bucs.

You mean the Jaguars?

No, he plays with the Bucs.

He played and won the championship with the Bucs.

And I think Anna Jones.

I played against Anna Jones.

Dad is Henry Jones.

Played safety for the Bills.

Anna Cockrell.

That's her name.

Anna Cockrell.

So it was a sweep for the lady, the lady Trojans and the 400 hurdles.

But De Lila Muhammad, she wins.

Cockrell was got the silver.

And Jones got the bronze.

But

they hype this up.

I wanted, what you call it?

Because, you know, Femka gonna go over there and be like, oh, Femka, she, oh, she do, she can't see CAD.

Unless CA got a rock in a shoe.

Gabby Thomas takes third place to make the U.S.

team in the 200 and a photo finish by 0.001.

The reigning Olympic champ barely, barely made it.

But Melissa Jefferson, she put this away.

She put this race away immediately.

Immediately.

She's like, man, I ain't bulldog with y'all.

Y'all play too much.

But

hey,

play with your kids.

And I ain't one of them.

Melissa Jefferson, she ran 2184.

Battle, 2213.

Gabby Thomas, 2220.

Brittany Brown, 2220.

Mackenzie Long, 2220.

Deja Stevenson, 2251.

Madison White, 2256.

Kayla White, 2271.

And Jameesa Ford, the South Carolina game cock, ran 2288.

Blistering times, but boy, Melissa Jefferson.

Man, I mean, look at you got three 2220s.

Look how close that was, Ocho.

By a foot, a spike, it looked like.

Richardson misses the world.

Shakari.

She missed, she, you know,

she got to get right.

She got some stuff going on.

But

I think

she's the reigning 100-meter champ at the world.

So we can see she gets her reaction time.

She got to get better reaction.

She's powerful.

She's explosive.

But you can't spot these women.

Ocho, 4-2 not catching 4-2.

These people are too, they're too, they're too fast.

You run 10-7.

You're not finna spot somebody that runs 10-7 and run them down.

She's giving up too much ground.

I mean,

her three phases of racing is similar to Noah Lyle's.

Noah Lyle.

Noah Lyle's finish, crazy.

Because he got 200-meter speed.

Exactly.

And

I mean, 200-meter endurance.

And

Shakiri, the same way.

But the back end of her race, strong as hell.

She's giving up too much ground, though, Ocho.

You can't give up.

You can't give up.

And that's what Usain realized.

Usain said, man, look here.

As long as I can just, if I can just stay in striking distance, because once I get out of my drive phase and I stand up,

you coming to get you.

And

it looks like he's catching everybody, but he's just maintaining his speed.

Yeah, he just

decelerating.

It takes him longer to do.

Speed, that's all it is, and everybody else is just decelerating.

Oh, that's that's dope.

That's dope.

Oh, Joe, Texas High School track star Cooper Lukenhaus breaks the under-18 world qualified record

championships.

16 years old

for context,

that would be the equivalent of him running 1975,

4388 a 345 mile or 1246 5k

which is 3.1 mile he ran 142 27

he's 16 ocho

now check this out oh yeah

you can't i you can't come back to school what you what they gonna do with him in high school ocho He had the record at 145.

He took three seconds off it.

So who gonna beat him in high school?

So, you line up and he's like, well, well, I guess I get second coach.

Oh, coach, you know, my stomach hurting today.

I don't want to race against him.

Nothing.

Nothing.

The man's 16 running in the world championships.

And I ain't talking about it as no alternate.

I'm talking about he got second

142.

That's crazy.

I knew they was running a time because they went through that line at 49.

Radija went through the line at 49.

When he ran 140, Kip Keeter had the record, 141.1.

And when Deeja went through the line in 2012 at 49, I was like, oh my God,

he got a chance at this.

He really got a chance at this.

And then he goes 140.90.

I'm like, oh, my goodness.

That's crazy.

And y'all know we're going to be on this track thing now.

So y'all, hey, if y'all looking at that track coverage, hey, my guy, Ry, congrats, nephew.

40, what did he run?

4689, 46, 86.

But like he said, 46.86 ain't gonna win you nothing.

Not when you got Dos Santos.

Not when you got Warrenholm.

Samba.

Mm-mm.

Samba,

he's been kind of hit or miss.

Kyra McMaster, I don't know if he can get down to,

but Warrenholm and Dos Santos,

you're going to probably need to be sub.

I almost say you're going to probably need to be sub 46.5.

And it kind of like the, you know what it reminds you of?

It's like the big three in tennis.

Nadal, Federer, Jokic, Jokovich.

Because you got Dos Santos, reigning world champ, you got the reigning Olympic champ, and you got a world champ, Olympic champ, and the world record holder.

And they're basically all in their prime.

They're all do Santos is the youngest.

I think Dos Santos is like 25.

He's the youngest, but they're all in the absolute

Rye looked good today.

I like that he didn't panic when the young man took it out.

Because normally, Rye would like, okay, let me go track him down.

Nah,

I see you.

I see you.

I see you.

So he ran his race, but

I'm excited.

So, hey, we will be providing full coverage of the world's mid-September nightcap.

Would be your

tracking field.

Hey, that's what we do.

And, you know, what we try to do, we're going to try to get some of the young men and women to come on and talk to us like we did last year.

And so I'm very excited about that.

September 13th through September 21st.

So,

but this is a a Jefferson favorite.

Ooh.

Been a long time.

Oh, it's been a long time since we, you know, we swept, the women swept it.

We look at the sweep it.

No, they swept it last.

Well, I'm talking about the same lady.

I don't know about us.

I don't know, Ocho, man, because Shane Thompson, he's explosive.

He can get out.

Oblique Seville, man, the Jamaicas, man,

they ticked off.

They ticked off, Ocho, about that Olympic stuff.

They mad about that.

They gonna have to show us.

Yeah.

We need to, the men need to show that we can get the baton around the track.

That's what we need to show.

Damn.

They tell you you're going to drop the damn baton.

Ah, Ocho.

Indianapolis coach running back, Salvon Ahmed, was taken to the hospital for x-rays after suffering what was reported as a severe leg injury during practice.

Ahmed was taken down.

Ocho.

Was this his same?

Was this his teammate, Ash?

Or were they or were they in a joint practice?

Our man was reported taken down with a hip drop tackle, a move that was banned from the NFL ahead of the 2024 season, resulting in significant injury.

The tackle was made by undrafted free agent Trey Washington, who head coach Shane Steichen acknowledged afterward was shaken up by the incident.

Ocho, a teammate

live tackling drills.

That's unfortunate.

The play occurred during the developmental period where drills involved third-string players.

Play was live, meaning tackling was permitted in that part of the practice.

But you can't hip drop.

That's why they could.

Oh, Joe.

I'm surprised they took him this long.

Because Roy Williams, how many people got a T.O.?

That's how T.O.

broke him up.

That's more horse collar.

You know, hip.

The horse collar.

But then guys started dropping their weight down.

Yeah, they

listen.

If you take the wrong angle, most of the time the hip drop, the hip drop tackle, it saves you.

If you can't catch the person now, you ain't gonna be able to do it.

You'll be able to do it now.

So

whoever running most of the time is a running back, they getting all them extra yards because

you can't drop your weight on them no more.

No.

I messed up my ankle like that.

That ankle get pinned up underneath the body.

Ain't nothing you can do.

But that's 180, 190, 200, whatever the power of weight, man, all that weight down on you.

Yeah.

Ain't nothing you can do.

Not at all.

Knee, you blow out a knee, patella, break an ankle, break a leg.

That's the best thing you can do as fast as you can.

I know it's kind of hard to do.

When you feel that them putting that weight in you, just let your body go.

Your body has to be in a relaxed state.

When When you try to fight it or you, or you, you, you stiff, and then

it some got to give.

And you got to, your body, you got to give your body up right away as soon as you feel that weight on that weight on you like that.

Anthony Richards cuts out Skittles.

He says, I need to be more of a pro with my eating.

Oh, Joe.

And it has no bearing and means nothing.

What you consume,

your intake.

It means nothing.

does.

Stop saying that, Marshawn Lynch, Skittles in the middle of the game.

Me, McDonald's, before the game,

it means nothing.

Either you know how to play, or you can't.

Either you got it or you don't.

What you put in your goddamn system is not going to change nothing.

Now, now, now, now you're mentally yourself.

Well, maybe if I stop eating this, then this will help.

But this, no, it's not.

It will.

It won't.

It won't.

It will.

Hold on, hold on.

Keep that thought.

Let's get used to the bathroom.

You think,

well, I'm glad Tom Brady ate whatever he wanted.

I don't think he did.

Look, we're going to go back and forth.

Y'all know Ocho's setting his ways.

Ocho believe you can do, but I just believe

as an elite athlete,

that's what you're trying to do.

If you know better you you do better and uh it's a situation where what you you you get out what you put in put in optimal food you get an optimal performance now

ocho like to take isolated incidences um

and and and and and work with that

hey

i disagree i strenuously disagree i vehemently disagree I don't.

You want to know why injuries are continuing to increase?

How these soft tissue injuries?

Because these goddamn fools keep listening to all these experts and all these damn scientists eating like goddamn rabbits, eating all this green.

Ocho, ocho, let's let's not demonetize us tonight.

What I did, I curse,

curse it, yeah,

yeah, like 14 times in like 15 words.

My bad, you know, I get real passionate when we talk, when we talk about, yes, I know,

I do, but I'm just saying,

okay,

Yes.

But I do think there's a correlation

between,

and I'm not saying that, you know,

you have to eat all one way, but to eat like you did before,

I just don't, I don't, I don't, I don't see it.

You put premium gas in your car, right?

Why don't you just put regular gas in your new car?

I don't know.

No, you don't.

You don't.

You don't.

When you had that Ferrari, when you had that Bugatti, you did not put regular gas in it.

Why not, Ocho?

Tell the people why you did not put regular gas, the lowest grade of gas, in that car.

Tell the people why you didn't do it.

You don't make the comparison.

Yeah, I do.

Because we play a barbaric sport.

You have to eat.

You have to eat.

You have to eat.

that healthy,

that's why everybody's falling apart.

You're falling apart because you're eating like a goddamn infant,

eat food.

No, you have to eat.

They eat, you gotta,

you gotta build up a callus in the body.

That's why everybody's falling apart.

Everybody getting hurt, everybody.

Uh, nobody touching you, they falling apart like a Barbie doll.

When you remember, little Barbie doll back in the days.

Oh, oh, oh,

Derrick Henry healthy.

Derrick Henry healthy.

What?

No, Derrick Henry.

Yes, he does.

He don't.

Okay, listen.

Derrick Henry is healthy.

LeBron James eat healthy.

Okay, Tom Brady health.

That's three people.

Out of how many?

Out of how many?

We talk about the special greats.

Hey, all-time greats.

Oh, so you mean, so you think if people eat like them, you think they're going to be all-time?

No.

No, no, you're not.

You're not.

You think people eat like, oh, you're going to go to the NFL?

No, there's no.

Okay, okay.

I'm just checking.

Listen, at some point, people are gonna listen to me.

People are gonna listen to me.

No, they don't.

I hope they're gonna.

Everybody on that healthy kick and everybody keep getting hurt.

That's all I'm gonna say.

I ain't gonna say nothing else.

Y'all keep letting people fool you and selling you a product just to make some damn money.

Talk about, oh, it's gonna keep you distant.

Oh,

Derrick Henry, gluten-free.

Derrick Henry avoids all gluten-free.

Dairy-free, he eliminates dairy product from his diet.

No fried food.

Derrick Henry avoids all fried food.

No artificial sugar.

Intermittent fasting.

Henry often practices intermittent fasting, consuming the first half of his meal later in the day.

Sample meal plans, pre-practice, kale, avocado, or banana.

Post-practice, chicken breasts, rice, broccoli.

Second meal, gluten-free pancakes, scrambled eggs.

Additional notes: Henry consumes large amounts of protein, typically around 200 grams a day.

He uses a personal chef to prepare his meal.

He spends around $250,000 per year on his diet and body maintenance.

His diet is tailored to individual needs and may be depending on the season.

Hey, what did Michael Jordan?

What did Michael Jordan eat before games?

McDonald's.

What did Usain Bo eat before races?

McDonald's.

Case clothes.

Case clothes.

Probably.

Well, if Jordan might have got 20 years,

maybe he got 20 years like Coleman LaRohan.

He didn't have to get 20 years, obviously, because he still considers the what?

By who?

No, not me.

I'm just saying.

I'm just society in general.

I mean, I'm not, you know,

I'm not a.

I'm just, you know, okay.

Hey,

when you come, you know, don't eat all that bulljob, man.

Y'all don't listen to all of that.

Matter of fact, don't listen to me.

Go out there, eat healthy.

Maybe one day you'll be Tom Brady and Derrick Henry and LeBron James.

And yeah, good, good luck with that.

Okay.

That's what's going to happen.

The bond between Bijan Robinson and Kristen McCaffrey is strong.

Bijan has been training, recovering with C-MAC all June and July in L.A.

O.

Joe.

We know iron sharpens iron.

What should we expect from Bijan in Atlanta this year?

Listen, we we should see, we should, we should expect, you know, what we saw last year, but more of, obviously, the high usage of him in the offense.

He's really, really good.

He's really good.

But obviously, with him being somewhat of a, what's the word I'm going to look for?

The security blanket, I don't want to be the security blanket for Michael Pennix Jr.

I want Kyle Pitts to be that security blanket.

I want that offense to run through him.

Obviously, Bijan is a special, very, very special talent.

He will be the feature back, obviously, in that offense.

But, you know, we talked to Brother Kyle, and I'm looking for Kyle to have a bounce back season and get back to what he did his rookie year because this is money year.

This is money year for him.

But

I agree.

I definitely agree.

And look, it all comes down to health.

And a lot of times, OJO, you start to doubt yourself because when you injured a bunch, you're like, damn.

Is it just bad luck?

You started like, damn, here we go again.

It starts to process or the cycle

mentally.

He just got to stay healthy.

Basically,

his best season was his rookie season.

He was healthy.

And he hasn't really

been able to string together a healthy season since.

You heard what Saquon said about Dijon, huh?

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

To get that kind of praise from Mr.

Barkley, you already know you're special.

Who's your favorite teammate or competitor to train with during the offseason?

It was a group of us, though.

And it wasn't, I mean, it wasn't an actual teammate with the Bengals, but it was me, Andre Johnson, Santana, Antonio Brown.

I'm missing somebody.

Santana, Andre Johnson, Antonio Brown.

I'm missing somebody.

It was one more with us.

Santana Moss.

Yeah, so us four,

we trained during the offseason together.

Now, that was fun.

Yeah,

that was fun.

Those were some fun days.

you see

coming and get some of that running so y'all ain't put that running in all you do it want to run rocks

but i did my my my to

understanding i had all the running that was that was going to happen in training camp my running my conditioning was boxing not fighting for real but just the boxing the footbrook and the he and i quit yeah

The bag is hitting the mess and stuff.

Yes, yes.

Man, they did that.

Man, they're goddamn man.

Man, three years is a long time.

That type of condition was, oh man, it was tremendous because when I had, when we had to report to camp and had to do that conditioning test, and they trying to figure out why the hell you still running,

yeah.

So the body was already ready, already acclimated.

All right, Ocho.

Final segment of the evening.

It's time for QA.

Woo!

Aaron Jones, Cole Hawker, is a low-known name.

Actually, he's not.

He won the Olympic gold medal in the 1500 last year.

So, okay, but okay, I get what you're saying.

But his final lap is almost perfect.

He won the 5K this year.

He only seems to be improving.

Well, the thing is, if you make it that type of race,

if you know you got a kicker, you got to take the pace out.

You got to take the kick out of him.

If you let it come down to a kick race, kickers will outkick you.

You got to take that zap.

You got to take the sting out of those legs.

Push the pace.

For a number of years, that's what the Kenyans did to El Garouch.

He was the greatest.

But they would push the pace.

And they would take turns pushing the pace.

They would zap him.

Then he got smart.

Run my race.

And then I think it was Sydney.

He won the what?

The 5K and the 1500.

Finally.

He's the greatest 1,500 meter.

I mean, and there have been some great 1,500-meter runners.

You know, Nordine Mussolini, Saida Wida, you know,

Sebastian Coe,

they're not him.

John Walker.

No.

Kano?

Dama Rockin.

He could do it.

Until somebody gets that 326, holler at your boy.

Holler at your boy.

Then we can talk.

But like I said,

for him to take down

Nordine Musa Lee's record, like I said,

no.

But Cole Hawker, look,

distance running.

I mean, look,

we like the the glamour.

We like speed.

We like speed.

Nobody likes to see people

round and round and round and round.

Nah, bro, hey.

The best

I can give you, I give you 800.

I give you that.

But mainly 400 down,

420.

Hurdles.

That's what I got for you.

No, but Cole Hawker, they left for the kick race, and that's what happened.

Kimberly Norwood Jr., I honestly don't think Michael would leave for another team if he doesn't get money he wants.

Where would he play next year?

Tell Jerry to trade him.

You'll see.

I tell you what, tell Jerry don't put that tag on him and see if he'll go play for somebody next year.

He absolutely would.

And somebody would make him the highest paid, go $45 million a year.

Yes.

Yes.

No, he or not.

Jerry's not going to trade him.

Jerry's not going going to be foolish enough to trade him.

And Jerry's not going to let him back him into a corner like that either.

But oh, yeah, Michael definitely would go play for somebody else.

Dr.

Frankie L.

Bellamy said, hey, fam, yesterday we celebrated two unforgettable moments, Sterling Induction to the Hall of Fame and my mom's birthday.

And you know I ordered my bottle.

Love y'all.

Doc, thank you very much.

We appreciate that so much.

Happy birthday, mom.

Hopefully you enjoyed it.

Hope y'all had some steaks on the grill, some ribs, whatever, mac and cheese, baked beans.

But this was very joyous celebration for the sharp household this weekend one that we will not soon forget aaron owens says drew breeze is the first ballot next year do you think they double up and put eli in too or is he going to have to wait a little longer

drew breeze obviously is a first ballot hall of famer i mean all those 5 000 yard seasons he's a super bowl mvp he's an offensive player of the year uh he had the records until tom broke them yeah he's he's a he's he's a first ballot hall of famer The Eli situation, look,

I'll let y'all debate that.

All I know is the Sharp brothers.

Mary Alice Dixon got two boys.

Her two sons are first.

So Eli, JJ,

and TJ,

Travis, and Jason.

Robert Dragon says salute 84 and 88.

You fellas are killing it.

Congrats to your brother, Shanna.

And Chad, you're up next in the Hall of Fame.

I got my own jacket.

Can't find that.

Can't find that Joker.

I think that guy got it, Ocho.

You need to tell him you want it back until you get it.

T-Double said, I've watched every night, Captain Club Shea Shea interview from start in the gym.

I love what you do.

Do the analytics, top two in both minutes stats.

Thank you, you, bro.

I appreciate that, man.

I really appreciate that support.

That means a lot.

Ocho and I, we try to do the best job we possibly can.

Try to get topics that you guys, we think you guys will be interested in.

And some things that, you know, we can go have a healthy discussion about.

Some things we agree on, some things we don't.

That's just the way it is.

That's just the way television works.

We don't script anything.

The only thing is that we try to come up with topics that

we think you'll be interested in.

And we can have a healthy discussion one way or another, whether we agree or disagree about said topic.

That's how we do it.

And Club Shea Shea, I try to find the most interesting guests, and I try to ask questions that I think you, if you were in my chair, I try to ask questions that I think you would ask if you were sitting in my chair.

Nothing more, nothing less.

You know, people like, oh, you being messy.

I'm just trying to, I still haven't figured out Ocho Howe is messy.

I asked Flage a question.

Now, Brittany Grinder started this.

Brittany Grinder said she could beat Boogie Cousins.

This was before Boogie, Torres Metella, AC, the other stuff.

Yeah.

Yes.

Brittany Grinder said

she could beat Boogie 101.

Asia Wilson, I think she was on the

Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson podcast.

And they asked her, maybe tongue-in-cheek,

if she played Josh Hart.

She said she could beat Josh Hart playing 101.

So I asked Flossy I say, you know,

Asia said, she said, Asia to go, gave her props.

Three-time league MVP, a defensive player of the year, a finals MVP.

You make a case right now.

She's a top five W NBA player all time.

Got no problem with that.

You being messy.

She says she can beat an NBA player one-on-one.

Brittany Grinder said it.

They mean it too, huh?

They're not just...

I think they

believe they could win.

That's part of their competitive spirit.

That's part of their competitive nature.

Realistically.

But they can't.

You know why?

Because when it becomes physical,

this is why they,

if that was, if they could do it, we wouldn't be complaining about transgender competing.

There's a difference in testosterone levels.

You can't.

You're just not.

Shakari is beat.

Melissa Jefferson can run.

But she's not beating the top high school track guy.

Those guys running 10.

The guy just ran 992.

Marcus Gleaton

from here in Georgia.

He ran 992.

Because it's physical.

And when it comes to physical men and women, that's why they shouldn't compete.

That's why they don't compete.

That's why they got women leagues.

They got men's leagues.

Da-da.

It's okay.

And

I like watching it.

But

if we're being truthful, Ocho, if we being all the way 1,000, everybody knows listen that's the confidence that they supposed to have they supposed to think like that even though to us realistically if the game becomes

you confident you think at any point in time in your career as confident you are you could not run you say hope hell no but i talk some

well you're not confident so you don't you're not confident like i can

i'm gonna talk trash like i can knowing damn well i can't he go he ain't gonna hear you because he's gonna be fitness you're gonna be halfway through so when you get to the fitness line listen i'm the one i'm the wrong one to ask when it comes to being confident about doing anything you know you're

but you but look i i get it but like i don't i'm like and i thought fly j answer to you like hey man age of the goat but

i mean six eight them guys wearing 230 240 just from a physical standpoint ocho yeah

yeah no

Lil Ninja said, what's up, Uncle Ocho?

Ocho, stop capping, be a dumping best man player.

You've been ducking Cam forever.

Who the hell, motherfucking made Cam this motherfucker, this great player where he's like the pinnacle of all Madden players, man.

Cam ain't good, man.

Cam can't beat me in nothing, man.

Let alone Madden.

Can't beat me in tennis either.

There's nothing Cam Newton can beat me in.

Nothing.

Madden, tennis, racquetball, ping-pong,

nothing.

Stenard said, uh-oh, Joe, you guys think adding Keenan Allen would upgrade Chargers' wide receiver room?

Absolutely, yes.

A viable target.

Now, I'm not sure where he's going to go because Lad McConkey, he dominates the middle of the field.

Hey, put Keenan on the other side.

So, we got two slot guys.

One of them, hey, both can win.

Consistently,

both can win.

And I think Keenan wanted to be back in L.A.

His family's here.

I like it.

I like this move.

Earl to the Ray said, I was mostly disturbed over Sterling not being the last speaker.

First two brothers, he wasn't disturbed.

Hell, actually, he wanted to be first.

Get it out of the way, huh?

Yeah, bad.

Yeah, yeah.

Like I said,

he didn't write a speech.

I had no idea he was going to,

knowing him, I kind of had the direct, kind of, you know, felt the direction that he was going to kind of go in.

I knew

he wasn't going to be as long as I was because he felt Shannon had already covered that.

You know, if you notice, he didn't spend a whole lot of time talking about Granny.

He didn't spend a whole lot of time talking about Papa.

Talked about Libby.

Talked about my mom, how he appreciated her giving him a name that stood out.

Talked about why he did certain things and X, Y, and Z.

But

he's different.

Once you get him to open up,

you can't get him to shut up.

But the hard part is getting him to open up

because he's very guarded.

Very.

Mayhem Matthew reaction to Brock Lesnar returning.

You glad he returning?

Me?

Yeah.

I think he.

Hold on.

They had something going.

They had something tonight, right?

Because I saw John Cena.

There was an end.

They had SummerSlam.

Okay.

Yeah.

I mean, look.

He's a very talented guy.

I mean,

All-American wrestler did UFC.

He could wrestle in WWE.

Why not?

I like it.

I just don't like what you call him being.

I don't like John Cena being a heel.

I don't like John Cena being a heel.

But hey, anybody can turn heel.

John can do it.

It's the last trip around the sun.

WWE.

Why not?

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And

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