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Speaker 25 Bills running back James Cook did not practice today. Cook is seeking a contract extension but was present at mandatory minicamp, reported to training camp and had participated thus far.

Speaker 25 Kept it short when asked why he sat out. Business, he said, would ask if he will practice Monday.
Business with James Cook being full pass

Speaker 25 for Buffalo Bills week one against the Ravens? It's been reported. I don't know if it's true.

Speaker 25 We got to provide context for everything now, Ocho, is that he will ask for a deal similar to what the Eagles gave Saquon.

Speaker 25 James, I don't think you're going to get that, bro. I'm just going to be honest with you.

Speaker 25 I think you're

Speaker 25 a fabulous young running back.

Speaker 25 But

Speaker 25 you're not finna get something comparable to

Speaker 25 Saquon.

Speaker 25 I don't think you're going to get something comparable to uh uh to to mac c mac i don't think nothing comparable to d henry what what what does derrick henry make ash

Speaker 25 16

Speaker 25 oh that's that's tough

Speaker 25 they just because oh joe we got to think about oh joe they just started paying running back the last two years they it's tough and listen they they they they started paying the running backs the last two years and they playing the tier one running backs right you know i see yeah

Speaker 25 as as as as

Speaker 25 two right two

Speaker 25 He's right there. You know,

Speaker 25 he was an intricate part of that offense last year. He was an intricate part of that offense last year and had very, very, very many plays.

Speaker 25 Very, very many plays. Because he fits very well in that system along with Josh.

Speaker 25 Saquon. That's one.

Speaker 25 Okay. C.
Henry.

Speaker 25 Okay. C-Mac.

Speaker 25 Let me ask you a question. Okay.
So we're going to put Josh Jacobs.

Speaker 25 You like him next? Jonathan Taylor.

Speaker 25 I forgot about JT.

Speaker 25 He's in that class, though.

Speaker 25 He's in that.

Speaker 25 You know,

Speaker 25 who don't talk about enough too? Since we're on the topic of running backs, Kyron Williams over there with the Rams.

Speaker 25 Oh, Kyron Williams. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 25 Excuse me. Joe Mixon had a nice year.

Speaker 25 I mean,

Speaker 25 another 20 million.

Speaker 25 I just don't see it. Now, I'm not saying, look,

Speaker 25 deserve, earn.

Speaker 25 I don't see them paying

Speaker 25 that asking price. Saquon is at 20 million.
Kristen McCaffrey. is at 19 million.
Derrick Henry is at 15 million. Jonathan Taylor is at 14 million.
Alvin Kamara is at 12,250. Josh Jacobs, 12.

Speaker 25 Aaron Jones, 10. James Conner, 9.
David Montgomery, 9.5. Well, James Conner is 9.5.
David Montgomery, 9.125.

Speaker 25 And Ramondre Stevenson is at 9 million.

Speaker 25 So you see, 10 is at 9 million. 20 is at...
20 million. So he's going to have to fit somewhere in there.

Speaker 25 I don't see him leapfrogging Taylor Henry McCaffrey.

Speaker 25 He said he wants something comparable to Saquon. Saquon's at the top of the food chain at 20.6.

Speaker 25 And he just came off of 2,000. He just came off offensive player of the year.
And he ran his team to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 25 That's tough. That's tough.
I love Cook. Derrick Henry just had 1,921 yards, led the league in rushing touchdowns.
We know Christian McCaffrey the year before.

Speaker 25 He was offensive player of the year. We know what he is when he's healthy.
Jonathan Taylor,

Speaker 25 because Saquon and Dee Henry had such unbelievable seasons, we forget he had an unbelievable season also.

Speaker 25 But because those two guys were battling out for 2000 and Saquon got it, and Henry was like 79 yards short, we kind of forgot about him. And we know Josh Jacobs,

Speaker 25 what he

Speaker 25 really? Brother Cook, hold a hold of Jane cook man one home team got to get his money though man he got to get

Speaker 25 he can't be more than he can't be more than 25 ocho see oh so listen if he's not more than 25 right if he's not more than 25 yeah there's no reason why he can't be slaughtered at right about

Speaker 25 about 12 hundred 12 or 13.

Speaker 25 12 or 13 is is fair even if if at 25 you still got a a lifespan of maybe another seven years especially in that offense over there in buffalo in that specific offense you can still like, I don't think there are that many running backs you can go find right now that can do what James Cook does.

Speaker 25 I don't think people, let's not be fooled.

Speaker 25 He'll be 26 on, he'll be 26 in September.

Speaker 25 He's at 13, man. Stop playing.

Speaker 25 Give him that 13. He's young.
It's not that many running backs that can do what he does. We're talking about coming out the backfield, lining up the spot.
Yeah, he can run. Yeah, I agree.

Speaker 25 He can catch the ball out the backfield, bro. But see, Ocho, but see, you see how you being realistic? You say somewhere between 12 and 13.

Speaker 25 That's big money.

Speaker 25 Bro, bro, he said he want a deal comparable to Saquon. 20.

Speaker 25 And Saquon, think about it, Ocho. Saquon signed a free agent deal.
Saquon played so good, they tore the deal up and made him the highest paid. Even after signing a free agent deal.

Speaker 25 Derrick Henry played so well last year, even after signing a free agent deal, they tore it up and gave him a new deal.

Speaker 25 damn man

Speaker 25 i want my dog to get paid too man that's home team man that's home team damn

Speaker 25 but i think the thing is though we got to be realistic they just started paying running backs the last year and a half they're paying the special ones though um they're not paying any and everybody they're paying the special when james makes true based on what he does like he ain't no he ain't no slouch now he's important part of that offense he makes that offense go now we know we know josh allen we We know what Josh Allen is.

Speaker 25 He's that boy. Josh Allen is over there with no superstars, no true number one running backs, but I mean, wide receivers, but you do have another weapon and goddamn James Cook.

Speaker 25 Huh?

Speaker 25 You got Shakir?

Speaker 25 Nice, solid. Just got paid in the offseason, if I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 25 Keon Coleman now,

Speaker 25 an up-and-coming young bull.

Speaker 25 Don't they got the kid from San Diego?

Speaker 25 Didn't they sign him in France? san diego the charges

Speaker 25 yeah i mean they go the la charges yeah didn't they sign palmer josh palmer is over there huh is it josh josh palmer right

Speaker 25 i think it's i think his first name josh if i'm not mistaken

Speaker 25 hey god damn but that's a tough one listen honestly i wouldn't want i wouldn't want to be an owner i wouldn't want to be

Speaker 25 yep i don't want to be a gym you're about to be 26 his birthday josh yeah yeah i wouldn't want to be a GM when it comes to like fringe, fringe situations like this.

Speaker 25 We can go either way. I want to be a GM where it comes to no-brainers.
Oh, that's easy.

Speaker 25 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, no, no.
You got to make tough decisions. I don't like the tough decisions like this.

Speaker 25 Because you can't keep everybody. You got to decide, okay.

Speaker 25 do i get off this guy and then you one time you get off somebody like you let somebody go and then they go gangbusters kind of like what derrick henry Henry did.

Speaker 25 They're like, what the hell were you thinking about? You let Derrick Henry go, the bro. But also, listen, Giants, Giants, what are you thinking about? You let Saquon go?

Speaker 25 Tennessee, what the hell are you thinking? You let A.J. Brown go? This is the thing, huh? You have to think about it.
The timing and the places where these individuals went was very important.

Speaker 25 Very important.

Speaker 25 Saquon left a disgruntled, a not-so-good offense. in New York and went to the Philadelphia Eagles with the best offensive line.

Speaker 25 Tennessee, I'm not sure what you were thinking or what you were looking at, but

Speaker 25 Derrick Henry. Derrick Henry didn't the Derrick Henry, Derrick Henry gonna be Derrick Henry wherever he go.

Speaker 25 Okay,

Speaker 25 so

Speaker 25 that's tough.

Speaker 25 Yeah, we wish you to.

Speaker 25 Cook, get your money, baby. Do what you gotta do, baby.
Maybe 13, 14, 15, maybe in that range, but not 19, 20. 13, 5, 13, 13, 5.
He's only 25. He only

Speaker 25 five. Hey, Josh Allen.
Josh Allen, man, you need to interfere. Intervene.
Intervene, please. Intervene.
Listen, you know how much power Josh got? Do you understand? I don't think people understand.

Speaker 25 Do you know how much power the quarterback, the quarterback has in situations like this?

Speaker 25 Man, Josh goes up there right now, man.

Speaker 25 What's the owner's name? I forgot his name.

Speaker 25 I met him. Very, very cool.
Gula. Gula.
His daughter's really good at tennis, huh? And she's really good at tennis. You know, Mr.
Pagula, man, Josh, go out there, man. Listen, Mr.

Speaker 25 Pagula, I don't want any more distractions.

Speaker 25 I don't want any more distractions,

Speaker 25 brother. Cook, brother Cook is a very important part of our offense.

Speaker 25 He takes some of the pressure off me, some of the pressure off my shoulders.

Speaker 25 Let's let's find a way to get this.

Speaker 25 He said, No, bro, I gave you 330 million. I need to put more pressure on your shoulder, so get out of my office.

Speaker 25 Nah, hell nah. As a matter of fact, I'm in the trade.

Speaker 25 For three, hey, for 330 million, for 300, what, for 330 million, what I'm paying you and 250 million guaranteed, Ocho? Nah, bro, I ain't trying to take no pressure off your shoulders.

Speaker 25 Unfortunately, I'm not going to be able to do that, Josh.

Speaker 25 Hey, that's a good one. Hey, that's a good one.

Speaker 25 I forgot he paid all that goddamn money.

Speaker 25 Oh, shoot.

Speaker 25 The Browns were off today. Here's how the four quarterbacks have performed through nine training camp practices.
Kenny Pickett has not done team drill since last week due to a hamstring injury.

Speaker 25 Shadur Sanders missed one practice team rep with arm soreness.

Speaker 25 But Joe Flacco is 54 of 92, three touchdowns, no interceptions.

Speaker 25 Sanders, Shadur, 49 of 70, six touchdowns, no interceptions. Dylan Gabriel, 62 of 113, four touchdowns, two picks.
Kenny Pickett, 23 of 34, three touchdowns, one interception.

Speaker 25 Shadur reported that, man, I guess.

Speaker 25 Right, that rotated cup. That little rotated cup.

Speaker 25 I mean,

Speaker 25 you're throwing a lot, you know.

Speaker 25 For him to say that and not just eat it because he is in a stiff competition battle, yeah that that that tells you that it's bothering him it's bothering because a lot of time when you're in a stiff

Speaker 25 oh you look me i was a low round draft pick you have to worry about you're a second round pick but i have a little nick nah bro i'm in a competition i i'm good

Speaker 25 you you you eat you sit on thing knee sore you know ankle sore, shoulder sore, something sore, you know.

Speaker 25 You just, you just, you know, you got a thigh bruise or something, oh Joe, you just eat that. Listen,

Speaker 25 the body will tell you when it shut down.

Speaker 25 The body will tell you when it shut down. And I listen, the quarterback tracker, that's cool.
That's all fine and dandy. To me, it doesn't mean much.
It doesn't mean much to me.

Speaker 25 I don't care how much you complete. I don't care how much,

Speaker 25 how many touchdowns you've thrown in practice against a team that sees you every day, against a team, against the defense where everything is scripted.

Speaker 25 The defensive players, the defensive coaches, everything is scripted perfectly. so the quarterback makes the right decision on where to go with the ball based on what's across from you.

Speaker 25 I want to see what it looks like on the cover.

Speaker 25 I want to get a look against a certain coverage. So I dial up that coverage.

Speaker 25 I call up this play against that coverage because I want to see what this play looks like against cover two or cover six or quarters or cover one or cover three, seven, cloud, 25, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 25 Same thing in the defense. I want to see this defense against this formation.
So you call this defense and you tell the offense to give you this formation. Yep, that's why I listen.

Speaker 25 I take that with a grain of salt. And also another thing, the fact that when it comes to the interceptions or even the completions or the touchdowns, when you're playing against your own team, right?

Speaker 25 And

Speaker 25 the defense has seen it over and over and over. They know the concepts.
They know the formations. They know what's coming.
So what do defenders in DBs tend to do? They tend to cheat a little bit.

Speaker 25 They tend to sit on routes. Listen, I want to see what you look like in the preseason when they don't don't know what you're running, when the bullets are flying for real.
Exactly.

Speaker 25 When it's like really go time and you get practiced 100 times, you get in the game, it's completely different. The speed of the game is five times faster than what it is in practice.

Speaker 25 And you don't realize that until you get out there on a Sunday. That's when I want to see Shadur.
That's when I'm going to see Dylan Gabriel and Kenny Pickett, whenever he gets healthy.

Speaker 25 We already know who's going to be the starter.

Speaker 25 The starter is going to be the veteran. The starter is going to be the veteran who's been around for a very long time.

Speaker 25 that's neither here nor there but coming down to the preseason and how they perform in the preseason it's going to tell who's going to be second string

Speaker 25 that's it you know i used to heard ocho

Speaker 25 what you just talked about dbs be cheating and then getting it and getting the game and the first thing i say oh i guess he didn't tip that rod off huh

Speaker 25 you jumping everything at breast you looking like you looking like time and practice you knocking out everything hey hey you tip that one off i like i i guess he ain't tipped that one off you can't listen you can't do that nah you looked at the card you saw the formation you saw where the ball was going and you knocked it down you can't play you can't play that on sunday but come but come game time you ain't knock nothing down

Speaker 25 you only knock the man down somebody else got to make the tackle that's different that's what make me mad brother Oh,

Speaker 25 I never looked at, okay, they got this defense. Hey, I'm just, hey, without a scout team, I'm going out there.
Hey,

Speaker 25 oh, he's getting the ball. Hey, man, let me get that right there.

Speaker 25 I'm following the ball.

Speaker 25 But

Speaker 25 they go look where the ball going. They knock the ball down.

Speaker 25 Bro, stop.

Speaker 25 You ain't knocked the ball down all year.

Speaker 25 Now, all of a sudden, you want to be time.

Speaker 25 Yeah, man. Listen, when them lights on, That's going to tell you all you need to know.

Speaker 25 Exactly. Because you're going to get somebody that's fighting for his life

Speaker 25 that's as scared, if not more scared than you.

Speaker 25 So, yeah, that's what I want to see.

Speaker 25 But, you know, look.

Speaker 25 Oh, sure. You know, sometimes, you know, sometimes

Speaker 25 making a team come down to injuries.

Speaker 25 I've seen guys be in a commanding position and get nicked.

Speaker 25 And that opportunity. goes to somebody else and if somebody else gets an opportunity to shine.

Speaker 25 I hate this for shadour because like you said but he is in a quarterback battle hopefully you know with some rest uh some ice stem

Speaker 25 he's able to go out there and perform at a high level but you know he's he you're throwing that's why a lot of times you know they bring extra quarterbacks in because the quarterback arm does get throw because he's throwing a lot more than what he threw in the offseason

Speaker 25 And the last thing you want, you don't want, you don't, you don't want a sore arm, but you don't want a dead arm either.

Speaker 25 so there's a there's a balance there's a fine line between making sure i get enough throws in but i'm not throwing too much but i'm not throwing too little either

Speaker 25 uh

Speaker 25 but ocho says he don't care about flacco being 54 92 with three touchdowns shador uh 49 of 70 six touchdowns zero picks dylan gabriel 62 of 113

Speaker 25 Four touchdowns, two interceptions. Kenny Pickett, they hadn't played a whole lot,

Speaker 25 tweaked that hamstring or he has a strain in his hammy and kind of been sidelined. But he has the fewest attempts, but he's 23 or 34, three touchdowns, one interception.
That don't mean nothing.

Speaker 25 Them numbers are stats. That don't mean nothing.

Speaker 25 What you going to look like with the lighting phone, baby? Hey, you, hey, they don't mean nothing to us, but when I was getting them tubs, they meant something to me.

Speaker 25 Hey, Ocho, man, would I give, hey, man, let me catch a touchdown or get a 20-yard, 15-yard game against the number one game against the number one defense.

Speaker 25 I feel you. Hey,

Speaker 25 bro, this is the starters. These are the guys that's going to be playing on Sunday.
And me.

Speaker 25 When the Browns' first preseason game

Speaker 25 is this week, isn't it?

Speaker 25 Everybody gets weak because the Hall of Fame game, so everybody's going to start playing Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday.

Speaker 25 That's what it's all about.

Speaker 25 So we're going to.

Speaker 25 And I'm sure he's going to get some time because

Speaker 25 they play Friday. Actually, they're playing Friday.
Okay.

Speaker 25 And they're playing the Panthers.

Speaker 25 And the thing is, Ocho, is that

Speaker 25 I don't even know who the starter is, but we know starters don't really play in the preseason.

Speaker 25 And if they do, they get a drive or something like that, and then they go hit the ground running on

Speaker 25 Florida. Wait a minute.

Speaker 25 It's preseason. So it's going to be the Dylan Gabriel and Shadura Sanders show.

Speaker 25 right but that's what i'm saying because the starters are not gonna play so they're gonna get they're gonna get an opportunity yeah absolutely oh yeah oh yeah i'm gonna be tuned in too i'm tuned in because i know i know i know of well hell should dylan gabriel too because he's played and he's played under the lights and he showed out yours played under the lights and he showed out different ballgame in the nfl baby

Speaker 25 it's a whole different ballgame you got to be able to process that information very fast

Speaker 25 All I know, I don't know how they do it, but I looked at everybody was trying to take food off my table. Everybody was trying to steal my car.

Speaker 25 Everybody was trying to put Granny back in our own house.

Speaker 25 I don't know what that, look, I don't know what I don't know what

Speaker 25 their focus is and how they make sure they get themselves ready to go do what they need to do.

Speaker 25 But that's what I thought.

Speaker 25 Everybody has something that gets them into the place where they can do what they need to do, Ocho. Whatever that may be.

Speaker 25 I got kids. I got a wife.
Kids need to go to private school.

Speaker 25 Hey, whatever. Yeah.

Speaker 25 Something, whatever, whatever, whatever gets you there.

Speaker 25 Whatever it is, do that.

Speaker 25 The nay says, I really never tried to prove anybody. I'll just try to prove me right.
Because if I prove me right, you'll be wrong.

Speaker 25 You will.

Speaker 25 And then everybody was like, I knew, oh, I knew it because I saw him. No, you didn't.
I heard what you said.

Speaker 25 That's not what you're saying. I know what you're saying now.

Speaker 25 Man, man, I knew, hey, I knew he was going to go to the Hall of Fame. What, really? I didn't even know that.

Speaker 25 I was hoping I could just, I hope I could just begin a season in the way it started off for me. No, the people just be talking.

Speaker 25 They do.

Speaker 25 Lie. Oh, your people lie to your face.

Speaker 25 I told such and such. No, you didn't.

Speaker 25 Man, I knew, man, I saw Ocho at high school. Man, I knew Ocho, man, I knew Ocho was going to the NFL.
Really? You knew that, huh?

Speaker 25 As that man bounced around the country trying to find a school to take him, you knew he was going to go to the NFL.

Speaker 25 Okay. In high school, I wasn't, I was, I was okay.
There's a way a boy high school down here

Speaker 25 back in the night,

Speaker 25 Boy, hey,

Speaker 25 Miami Northwestern

Speaker 25 back then in 96.

Speaker 25 Carol City, North

Speaker 25 Mountain,

Speaker 25 St. Thomas has always been good.
You know what? I didn't know much about St. Thomas back.
I only knew, I only knew about the inner city schools, New Orleans.

Speaker 25 Jackson, man.

Speaker 25 so i like yeah but i i'm like you um hopefully like i said shador is able to go uh

Speaker 25 and get an opportunity to say

Speaker 25 see what he can do i'm ready i remember i remember my first time in high school you know i was up when i was that quarterback blue 80

Speaker 25 blue 80

Speaker 25 Alert, alert, alert, alert, alert, alert.

Speaker 25 Boy, wasn't nobody said no alert back then you just ran the plate

Speaker 25 but you know i was a quarterback at beach hot now i was a quarterback at miami beach i was trying to follow in samari footsteps hey you know you know i was on the same team with samari dwayne stalks terry cousins yeah

Speaker 25 i was the baby uh i was the freshman i think so i think samari ended up going to baltimore too because samari i played against samari when you covered me in tennessee and baltimore yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh it's funny we was all on the same we was all on the same team.

Speaker 25 I was, I was the

Speaker 25 and y'all didn't win nothing. Nah, it was just us, man.
It was just us. It was just us.

Speaker 25 That's more than enough. D.
Starks was a quarterback. Samari was a receiver.
Then D. Starks left, went to UM.
Then Samari was his senior year. He was a quarterback.
I was a receiver.

Speaker 25 Then when Samari left, I won the, then I went to the quarterback.

Speaker 25 I should.

Speaker 25 Oh, Joe, we have breaking. We have breaking news.
Adam Schefter is reporting. David White has been selected as the NFLPA Interim Executive Executive Director.

Speaker 25 The statement read out of Jalen Reed's Mabin. On behalf of the NFLPA Board of Players Representatives, I'm proud to share what David White has been elected to serve as our interim executive director.

Speaker 25 This decision is a result of comprehensive

Speaker 25 player-led process. We understand the urgency to fill the role, and we did our due diligence to identify the right person to lead our union in this moment.

Speaker 25 We have full faith in David to take the union forward and operate in the best interest of our membership.

Speaker 25 David has spent much of his career fighting for collectively bargained rights and labor movement and is committed to putting players first in all union does. We are confident that

Speaker 25 he will inspire solidarity and provide the necessary stability during this period of transition. Soon, we will commence a thorough search process for a permanent executive director.

Speaker 25 This process will continue to be player-led as the strength of our union has and will always lie with our membership hey listen congratulations congratulations brother david white um

Speaker 25 uh

Speaker 25 you you you're in a great position obviously to represent represent us um

Speaker 25 you got a tall task ahead of you baby you got a tall task ahead of you you know i wish you nothing but success and um and in getting things done the right way

Speaker 25 and that's pretty much it if if you guys are looking for an executive director uh i i am here i can submit my resume um it speaks for itself on and off the field so um i look forward to hearing from you everyone over at the nflpa you know there's two sides of me there's a johnson there's an ocho you know business

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Speaker 25 Boy, I love you. You hear me? Cam, I know you're going to see see this.
Boy, I love you. You hear me? Y'all keep having at it.
Keep having fun. Keep jigging.
You know, it's a good thing. Sometimes.

Speaker 25 Can we advance the ball? Okay,

Speaker 25 everybody's made that point. No, no, the points haven't been made, but

Speaker 25 you have to keep going.

Speaker 25 When somebody talks about you, you talk about them. And you keep going back and forth until you be like, you know what? Okay, you done?

Speaker 25 Are you finished? Is you cool?

Speaker 25 Until somebody stop, until somebody waved a white flag. It's okay.
You know why it's okay? It's entertainment.

Speaker 25 You know what it does for both of their platforms? It continues to bring eyes, views, regardless of what other people may feel. It's entertainment at the end of the day.

Speaker 25 All this because

Speaker 25 Cam said he doesn't think Jalen Hurst is a top 10 quarterback. And Gilly said, well,

Speaker 25 but at what point in time do we advance the ball?

Speaker 25 What did Gilly say?

Speaker 25 Jalen Hurst did what you could do. Listen, that's fine.
I like the jigging back and forth. It's okay.
Like, listen, you are, you're a prime example of Jones and back in the day.

Speaker 25 This is just another, another,

Speaker 25 another type of Jones and another type of jabbing, going back and forth. And it's fun.
And you know why I like it? You know why I really like it? Because it's going to always stay on the mic, bro.

Speaker 25 It's not going anywhere past.

Speaker 25 It's going to always stay. No different than rap beef.

Speaker 25 No different than 50 and Rick Ross. No different than Kendrick and Drake.
I'm not saying it's that big to that magnitude, but just still, it's going to stay on the mic. That's how it makes it fun.

Speaker 25 It's entertaining.

Speaker 25 So, Cam, I love you. Gilly, y'all boys, man, you know.

Speaker 25 When did Cam when was this today? Because I thought that was a good one.

Speaker 25 I think that's from a few days ago. From a few days.

Speaker 25 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 25 Because I think Cam is saying something about...

Speaker 25 about his rap career that you know he didn't have no hits or something like that and then gilly responded. Yeah, so I like it.
I like, hey,

Speaker 25 I like it, man. You know, let's have some fun.
You know, it's all fun. It's all entertainment.
You know, you talk about me, I'm gonna talk about you.

Speaker 25 You know, you go low, I'm gonna go lower.

Speaker 25 You know, hey, you know,

Speaker 25 I like it. And I'm loving it and I'm encouraging it, Unc simply because it's staying on the mic.
That's it. It ain't

Speaker 25 and I like it. It's it's fun.
And

Speaker 25 how

Speaker 25 creative can you get?

Speaker 25 Okay.

Speaker 25 Gilly

Speaker 25 did not play football. Okay.
Gilly did not have maybe the rap career that he wanted. He's been able to transition very well.

Speaker 25 Cam,

Speaker 25 what do you say about Cam? The guy was a five-star.

Speaker 25 Went to the University of Florida. Like, I ain't going to get no play in time behind Tim Tebow.
Goes to Blinn Junior College, wins the national championship. He comes back and go back and look at Cam.

Speaker 25 That one year he played at Auburn. He wins the national championship.
They're 15 and old. He wins the Heisman.
His career, college career, boom.

Speaker 25 Chef's kiss. Yeah.

Speaker 25 NFL career. Rookie of the year.
He's an MVP. Leads it to a Super Bowl.
But me for me.

Speaker 25 Cam is not a one-play guy. Everybody wants to reduce Cam to that one play in which he didn't jump on the football.
Cam is more than that. You don't play a decade in this league and only be that.

Speaker 25 He's not that.

Speaker 25 Okay.

Speaker 25 If you say that's his worst moment, his best moment is winning the MVP.

Speaker 25 Okay, so somewhere in the middle is what he is.

Speaker 25 We're going to treat it like gymnastics. We're going to take out the high score.
We're going to take out the low score. We're going to combine the middle.

Speaker 25 Matter of fact, oh, you know what? I heard Cam say

Speaker 25 What Cam say? Cam told Gilly,

Speaker 25 you will never be able to beat me in nothing. And he named different sports that Gilly wouldn't be able to beat him in.

Speaker 25 But I think there might be one that I think

Speaker 25 I'd pay good money to see.

Speaker 25 Basketball.

Speaker 25 Cam gonna try to come up. Man, listen, I think

Speaker 25 basketball. Cam might be done, got two muscles.

Speaker 25 But Gilly can hoop, boy.

Speaker 25 Gilly could hoop. I know Cam could I could hoop too.
I would pay whatever to have a fourth and one

Speaker 25 in a million dollars worth of game one-on-one.

Speaker 25 Now, I'm talking, hey, fellas, listen to me. I know y'all having your verbal sparring match right now.
Listen to what I just said. One-on-one.

Speaker 25 Fourth and one versus a million dollars worth of game one-on-one.

Speaker 25 I'm giving you ideas because we need to keep making doing one thing.

Speaker 25 Stay with me now. I'm telling you, man.

Speaker 25 Damn, Gilly, listen to me. Keep having fun,

Speaker 25 but keep the main thing, the main thing.

Speaker 25 Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 25 Ocho, and then Gilly kind of responded. He had a birthday party.

Speaker 25 Hey, that's a Super Bowl trophy.

Speaker 25 Big Dom brought it down to the 24th birthday party.

Speaker 25 Hey, that's dope.

Speaker 25 They love Gilly. Man, Gilly be in the locker room.
Gilly be coming out there. Hey, Gilly be having them hype.

Speaker 25 I think I'm going to do that with the Bengals, man. I'm going to do that.

Speaker 25 First of all, you know,

Speaker 25 Gilly born and raised in Philly. He's been a Philly fan his life.

Speaker 25 Okay.

Speaker 25 You a Dolphins fan. You didn't do that for the Dolphins.

Speaker 25 I could be like,

Speaker 25 you grew up with with the dolphins. So I could be like,

Speaker 25 I got too many jobs.

Speaker 25 You gonna get a dolphin suit?

Speaker 25 I don't have time. I ain't got time.

Speaker 25 Good.

Speaker 25 Hey, but hey, hey,

Speaker 25 I like that.

Speaker 25 I love the verbal back and forth between them.

Speaker 25 Well, you're going to love this. Johnny Manzel saw that and tweeted, yo, Gilly the kid, you may be the biggest effing loser on the planet, talking like you've been, like you effing doing

Speaker 25 anything on a football field. If I see you, just know I'm going to slap the L

Speaker 25 trust.

Speaker 25 Well, when did all this happen?

Speaker 25 Okay.

Speaker 25 I kind of been, you know, I kind of had an eventful week, weekend. So I've been out of the way.
How did I miss all this? Well, well,

Speaker 25 damn.

Speaker 25 All them jobs you got.

Speaker 25 How Johnny got into it? How Johnny and Gilly, where they going?

Speaker 25 I, Cam.

Speaker 25 Johnny's a Highland trophy winner. Cam.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 25 So, you know, the same thing, Cam, like, bro, you talking like you was out there catching touchdown passes, running the football. I get it.
I get it. Johnny's like, bro, hold on.

Speaker 25 You ain't do nothing to contribute to that.

Speaker 25 So, and then I

Speaker 25 bad is going to be a double in the battle. This is going to be the 100-year war.

Speaker 25 Ella. And I think, hello,

Speaker 25 Gilly. When he responded, didn't like that.
Gilly didn't like what Johnny had to say, and this is what he posted.

Speaker 25 Media donuts

Speaker 25 coke

Speaker 25 what's that? Now the donuts

Speaker 25 coke

Speaker 25 Hey,

Speaker 25 I thought he was eating donuts. I thought it was powdered donuts.
And we were eating, but okay,

Speaker 25 see,

Speaker 25 I'm old, man. I'm old.
I ain't no, so obviously he's taking a shot at Johnny because I guess he had some type of whatever.

Speaker 25 The man say you want to slap the T, go slap the man on the site. I don't think he, I don't think

Speaker 25 he's going to be able to do that. But Gilly responded.
Gilly said, look, Gilly said some other stuff, responded to what Johnny said, but we ain't going there.

Speaker 25 Y'all want to find out

Speaker 25 what Gilly's response was? Outside of that, y'all have at it. But this is as far as we go with it.
So, Johnny, Johnny, and

Speaker 25 hey, boom. Here it is.
Here we go again. We got a money-making opportunity again, Gilly.
In the ring. Gilly, you know, you know how to, you got that Philly shell on you.
That Philly shell, huh?

Speaker 25 You know, think about it. What Philly Shell are you talking about? What you mean, Gilly? Gilly could, Gilly could both, too, man.

Speaker 25 I know Gilly could both.

Speaker 25 Gilly and Johnny settle their differences in the ring. Headgear, 16-ounce gloves, four rounds, three-minute rounds.
You know, oh, you're gonna slap me when you see me? Now's your opportunity. Boom.

Speaker 25 Get the sponsors behind it.

Speaker 25 Keep the main thing, the main thing.

Speaker 25 Come on, man. Come on, man.

Speaker 25 Gilly, Cam. Can we

Speaker 25 know? Keep it going.

Speaker 25 You made your point.

Speaker 25 We got a lot of other stuff to talk about. We got football season right around the corner.
We got training.

Speaker 25 We got a lot of stuff we can talk about. You made your point.
Everybody made their point.

Speaker 25 We get it. I get it.
Man, forget what I'm going to talk about, baby. Let's make this money.
You hear me?

Speaker 25 I'll be Don King.

Speaker 25 You ain't got no hair,

Speaker 25 it's coming though. Wave check,

Speaker 25 and this man and this man up there talking about man, what those powdered donuts

Speaker 25 like

Speaker 25 sitting there eating them goddamn powdered donuts, man, with the stuff all over his face. So now I get, I get it now, I get it now.

Speaker 25 I knew you'd get it then. My bad, my bad.
Man, you don't, you know,

Speaker 25 I don't know about that stuff, man.

Speaker 25 I don't know, I I don't know about that stuff, man.

Speaker 25 So, we moving on, OJ.

Speaker 25 Gilly and Cam ain't going to be doing this no more. Nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

Speaker 25 What you mean?

Speaker 25 Like something, some Cardi B.

Speaker 25 Remember Cardi B, right? When we beef, beef forever.

Speaker 25 I think she's the one that had that quote. And them two is going to go on forever.

Speaker 25 have to, but I, I think it should, because it could be beneficial for both sides.

Speaker 25 I like it.

Speaker 25 I think both guys can make content.

Speaker 25 Million dollars worth of gay been at this gilly while

Speaker 25 you heard what you just said. They can make content, right?

Speaker 25 But when you do this type of content, you know, with the.

Speaker 25 People get tired of hearing you bicker back. Verbal jabbing.

Speaker 25 You look at the numbers of the verbal jabbing con, the verbal jabbing content and your regular content guess who guess which one are going to have the most views and the most not

Speaker 25 yeah

Speaker 25 it will

Speaker 25 but after but but even guess what i mean people like looking at uh uh like looking out the window when it's raining but after a while they get tired of doing that

Speaker 25 it's only been a week huh it's only they've been going at it

Speaker 25 they're good

Speaker 25 That's plenty. That's plenty.
That's more than enough time. I think everybody's made some great points.
It's funny. It's entertaining.
But I think now it's time for we can move on.

Speaker 25 I love them boys, man. Y'all keep having

Speaker 25 fun.

Speaker 25 Yeah,

Speaker 25 I'm looking forward to doing a me and with the game.

Speaker 25 Oh, you going on there?

Speaker 25 Yeah, that's going to be live. That's going to be live.

Speaker 25 That's going to be live.

Speaker 25 Because

Speaker 25 I sat down with both of those guys

Speaker 25 individually, you know, because I think because both of them have very interesting stories, and I didn't want it to, I didn't want it to, like, I wanted Gilly to have his time, I wanted Wallow to have his time because I think they have very interesting stories outside of one another.

Speaker 25 Now, we could intertwine and we could talk about how do you guys come together and come up with a million dollars with the game and yada, yada, yada. But I want to hear each of you individual stories.

Speaker 25 And then, you know, we can all tie it together in a nice bowl. But, oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's definitely, that's a must. That's a must.

Speaker 25 Oh, Joe, we got to talk about the USA tracking.

Speaker 25 Well, you seen, you seen Kenny and uh and Noah.

Speaker 25 Noah Lyles edged Kenny Benerick in a spicy 200-meter final that concluded with Beneric shoving Lyles in the back after the race conclusion.

Speaker 25 Tension between the pair carried over to the post-race interview. We can't show you that interview, but we can show what Bignerick later said, courtesy of riding reporter Serenity Douglas.

Speaker 25 Let's take a listen to what he had to say. Kenny Big Nerik, that is

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Speaker 28 y los extrovertidos, para los que pienzan y los que ha hacen. Para los que nos unostraro en el camino.

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Speaker 25 I like it. A little healthy competition.

Speaker 25 No disrespect. I'm a former believer.
He stared you down. It's sport.
Emotions. I'm happy.
Last time you raced, you beat me. Okay.
He was fresh. So the excuse for losing is, well, I wasn't fresh.

Speaker 25 That's not an excuse. That's true.
You run rounds. There's a reason why it's hard.
Everybody, we've seen guys, you've seen guys, Ocho, like, you got to run rounds.

Speaker 25 There is a difference between running rounds and running one race. I understand.
I understand, but still.

Speaker 25 That's why you got to, that's why I respect so much the world record that you say both set because he said it during rounds.

Speaker 25 just imagine the time that he could have run if he just won one race he got fresh legs not rounds fresh legs now look i'm a firm believer you don't like somebody doing something if i'm in a sporting event i don't like the guy a taking his time running around the base well i ain't gonna throw you no ball that you can hit over the fence

Speaker 25 If you don't like me dancing in, I tell people all the time, man, T.O. doing too much.
Keep his ass out of the end zone. He won't dance.

Speaker 25 You don't want him to dance. Keep him out of the end zone.
You don't want Noah Lyles to stare you down and do all those antics. Don't let him cross the finish line before you.

Speaker 25 That's what Dubogo did at the Olympics.

Speaker 25 He want to see all this.

Speaker 25 Oh, he peedy. Hey, I mean, listen, I like it.

Speaker 25 I ain't got no problem.

Speaker 25 We don't have this. Track is always all goddamn kumbaya.
Oh, respect me.

Speaker 25 No, no, no, no, no, it's not.

Speaker 25 No, they don't get along with it listen i know i know they don't but this is this is okay showing emotion i won i stared you down okay boom you lost kenny put his hands on noah you know because of the state you know did exchange some

Speaker 25 bro you all in my lane now we have now we have a nice rivalry i'm not sure when the next time they get to meet up but guess where everybody's gonna be tuned in

Speaker 25 at the world championships everybody's gonna be tuned in at the world championships waiting on them to race and they all gonna have to go through the rounds so it won't be any excuses yes i'm excited now this is good this is

Speaker 25 yeah because

Speaker 25 yeah because you know what ocho because

Speaker 25 uh i think i think uh

Speaker 25 it noah yeah noah is uh the the uh the 100 meter champ yeah at the world so he's all automatic he got an automatic qualifier so that's why he pulled out and says okay i'm just gonna do i'm gonna

Speaker 25 wait i'm excited listen kitty kenny ran a good race. A very, very good race.
Nora ran a good race as he did. Yeah, he ran 970, right?

Speaker 25 He PR'd personal best in the 100, a 979, which is also, which happens to be the fastest, the world leading time this year.

Speaker 25 He comes back, follows it up, runs the rounds, and runs 1962, the 67, which is probably one of the

Speaker 25 second fastest time he's ever run

Speaker 25 after running rounds. So,

Speaker 25 like you said, feel that he's fresh.

Speaker 25 he can't be he can't be too bad yeah you're gonna you're gonna you're gonna be all right you're gonna be all right both of them gonna be all right i know one thing they've made watching the sport of track that much more exciting because we have something to look forward to we have something to look forward to a lot of people it's frowned upon in the track world and in in the track community but

Speaker 25 Now you got people who don't even watch track now. Okay, you know what? Oh, Noah and Kenny, they got into it.
Well, what happened? Okay, I watched it. Oh, I saw what Kenny said.
Okay.

Speaker 25 I heard what Noah said. I saw you push it.
You know what? Fuck all that. I want to tune now.
I want to see what happens when they race next.

Speaker 25 This is bringing eyes and viewers to a sport that many watch that are part of the track world.

Speaker 25 Now we're going to have eyes and viewers of people that don't even watch track because they want to see what's going to happen when Kenny and goddamn Noah Laos race.

Speaker 25 Well, it's hard to get involved because your premier event. Just imagine if you only had the Super Bowl once every four years.

Speaker 25 That's difficult. Understandable.
You only had the World Series once every four years. You had the NBA NBA championship once every four years.
The biggest event is once every four years. And

Speaker 25 they race a lot of times. It's delayed or you got to get up at the wee hours of the morning.

Speaker 25 Right.

Speaker 25 I think probably you at the

Speaker 25 LA will probably be highest because guess what? It's Pacific time.

Speaker 25 It ain't the six hours, the nine hours, the 10, 11 hour difference in time.

Speaker 25 so now hey

Speaker 25 you can watch it at a decent time you can you know a lot of these things but

Speaker 25 think about it oh joe

Speaker 25 the 100 meter dash is is the signature event that thing happened so early that was that was that was yesterday Let that sink in.

Speaker 25 That just goes to show you how the luster of the 100 meter dash, the men's 100 meter dash, that used to close the shut. That was it.

Speaker 25 Bro,

Speaker 25 you think they let you same boat run on the day that they're going to close the Olympics down?

Speaker 25 The trials? Come on, man. That's Usain.

Speaker 25 Look, like I said,

Speaker 25 Kenny, if you don't want the man to showboat, you got to cross the line before he does.

Speaker 25 Because if he crosses the line before you, he did the same thing to Arian Knighton when he caught him off the turn and he pulled up and

Speaker 25 flipped him.

Speaker 25 That's

Speaker 25 hey,

Speaker 25 You ain't want T.O. doing all y'all dances and signing shit signing footballs keep him out the hands on don't be talking about man.
He ain't got

Speaker 25 that's your job his job to dance your job to keep him from dancing

Speaker 25 I I don't I don't I don't have a problem. I don't have a problem like I said.

Speaker 25 I think the bigger problem was is that when they come up the thing is that he got like in his lane because I ain't got no choice.

Speaker 25 Because if he's in his lane, how can I, if I'm in my lane, Ocho, and you in your lane, how can I push you in your back?

Speaker 25 Once you start to hit that curve after you pass the finish line, people run straight. They don't run in the lane around the curve.

Speaker 25 What don't run in my lane? Look at you, you catch his elbow direct to the small of the back. Then you'd have had him two out there tussling.

Speaker 25 Hey, it is what it is.

Speaker 25 It is what it is. Nah, but look.

Speaker 25 Usain had some, you know, Usain did his lightning bolts and, you know, he's yeah, he had his, he had his,

Speaker 25 you know, he,

Speaker 25 and, you know, look,

Speaker 25 Noah's trying to get the crowd involved. He's trying to, you know, hey, he's trying to bring excitement.
Uh, uh, today was really good. There was some, there was some great, uh, the kid from Texas.

Speaker 25 The kid is 16 and ran 142.27

Speaker 25 in 800 meters, which is, I'm not mistaken, like the fifth fastest time.

Speaker 25 Yes, it might be the fifth fastest time for an American.

Speaker 25 That's crazy. We see Melissa Jefferson go 1065, which is one of the fastest times ever tracked for a woman, and then she backs it up with 2184.

Speaker 25 We see Cid. Sid, it's like, you know what? I've been so dominant, I'm gonna let somebody else win.
Because y'all know y'all can't see me in the hurdles.

Speaker 25 Nobody, I understand Femkin can run all the time she wants. Ain't nobody past, present, or I am the greatest 400-meter women's hurdler in the history of the sport.

Speaker 25 And if y'all keep talking,

Speaker 25 but I ain't gonna do it because she's already said

Speaker 25 in post-race interviews, Sydney announces she will

Speaker 25 compete solely in the 400-meter

Speaker 25 flat and not the hurdles. Well, she had no choice because Paulino and Al Sawyi ain't bulljiving.

Speaker 25 They not bulljiving. And Sydney is phenomenal, but 4890 ain't going to win it.

Speaker 25 I done seen Paulino go 4811.

Speaker 25 I done seen

Speaker 25 go mid-48.

Speaker 25 She's going to have to run. She's going to have to go low.

Speaker 25 You also have to think about it. When it comes to track and it comes to some of the times right now,

Speaker 25 it takes running against the best to pull it up out of you.

Speaker 25 Well, they're going to pull it up out of you. Because Paulina can go out.

Speaker 25 NASA can go out. They can push the pace.

Speaker 25 They can push the pace. Now,

Speaker 25 I wanted Sid, I wanted Sid to go sub

Speaker 25 50 in the hurdles and put that record out there so it'd be like Flojo's. Nobody can tell.

Speaker 25 You see a lot of it. You see a lot of it.
Hey, that 2133

Speaker 25 and that 1049.

Speaker 25 I'm old enough to remember when she said that she went that 2133 and sold.

Speaker 25 And she went to,

Speaker 25 if I'm not mistaken, the 1049 is what she ran in

Speaker 25 in Indy. I think

Speaker 25 the trials were in Indy that year. There was a lot of talk about the gauges and all that stuff.
But all I know, hey, it's documented down. But that 2133,

Speaker 25 who is that? Jackson? Got close. Either Elaine Thompson.

Speaker 25 Bro.

Speaker 25 Until someone get below 21.4,

Speaker 25 then y'all talk to me.

Speaker 25 Then Then y'all talk to me. Like, like, until somebody, like, oh, oh, oh, oh, they're going to get you saying, bro, until I see somebody go low, until I see somebody go 965,

Speaker 25 then I'm like, hmm.

Speaker 25 But until somebody go 965, ain't no nobody been, ain't nobody, ain't no man been not

Speaker 25 other than,

Speaker 25 who is that?

Speaker 25 Tyson Gay?

Speaker 25 And what's the guy, the Jamaican?

Speaker 25 What's the other Jamaican? Ran 969. But ain't no.
When's the last time somebody ran 971, Ocho?

Speaker 25 When the last time somebody ran 972? And y'all talking about breaking 958? Not happening. No time.

Speaker 25 Not anytime soon.

Speaker 25 Do y'all realize?

Speaker 25 But hey, there was some racing going on today, Ocho.

Speaker 25 There was some racing going on today. Hey, that 800 meters

Speaker 25 for Donovan Brazier to come back and have the injuries that he had, and he came back with a 143, and then he comes back today and he wins the trial at 142.16.

Speaker 25 Johan, Johan Blake, yeah.

Speaker 25 So he and Tyson Gay, they tied with 969.

Speaker 25 But you saying they ran 963, 958, 968.

Speaker 20 Boy,

Speaker 25 he got a three-fast time never run. Boy, moving.

Speaker 25 Yeah,

Speaker 25 I still believe

Speaker 25 that he would have ran sub-955 had he not celebrated in Beijing.

Speaker 25 If you go back and look at what he's doing the last 10 meters of the race, he's sideways pounding his chest and he's clear of the field.

Speaker 25 But we're going to be geeked up. We're going to be covered.
We're going to be covered ease.

Speaker 25 Hey, that for a that 400 meters,

Speaker 25 somebody might, somebody might look

Speaker 25 that American record of,

Speaker 25 I think Sonia Richards Ross is 4870.

Speaker 25 I think that's the American record.

Speaker 25 4760 is the world record, Marita Coke.

Speaker 25 And then you got Cratchalova. So you've only got two women that's ever go sub 48, two, 47.99 and 4760.

Speaker 25 Pushing it with Nasser, Paulino, and Sid,

Speaker 25 you might get a low sub. You might get a low 48.
You might get sub.

Speaker 25 You don't have no choice.

Speaker 25 Right conditions,

Speaker 25 right track,

Speaker 25 right competitors. Hey, special things happen when the best of the best are racing each other.

Speaker 25 Yep.

Speaker 25 Yep.

Speaker 25 You might. Melissa, oh, Melissa Jefferson and Julian Alfred, the St.
lucian who

Speaker 25 hey i got to see this because melissa jeffson get out i'll tell hey you hey you can't spot her that julian alfred hey she's powerful she is a powerful woman but boy melissa jefferson can scat

Speaker 25 boy she can oh oh cho she can scat

Speaker 25 she can scat yeah but that's gonna be the rate that's gonna hey look

Speaker 25 T Shane Thompson, you got Noah, you got Bignerick, You got Obalique Seville. I mean, you got some guys.
So we're going to have some interesting races.

Speaker 25 200. You got Noah.
Kenny says, okay, hey, we're going to put some rounds. You have some rounds on you.
I'm going to have some rounds on me.

Speaker 25 Tobogo isn't quite in shape in the 200. So we're going to see how that pans out.

Speaker 25 But boy, that's a

Speaker 25 Julian Avlin and Melissa Jefferson.

Speaker 25 of this thing about to get this thing about to get interesting. And Cecid and Paulino and Nasser

Speaker 25 and 400.

Speaker 25 Come on with it. Come on with it.
Come on. Don't play with it now.

Speaker 25 And I just hope the American can get the baton around.

Speaker 25 That 451.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 25 Yeah, we talked about Melissa Jefferson Wooden. I'll make sure I put her name.
Sorry. Melissa Jefferson Wooden.

Speaker 25 Fifth fastest time ever covered by a woman on the way to a second national championship in the 100 meters,

Speaker 25 1065.

Speaker 25 De Lila Muhammad won the hurdle. She retired the end of the championship.
She came out of retirement, ran a few.

Speaker 25 Sid was not in this.

Speaker 25 It was a Trojan sweep.

Speaker 25 De Lila Muhammad got one to run the goal.

Speaker 25 What's the lady's name? She got a brother play with the

Speaker 25 Bucs.

Speaker 25 You mean the Jaguars?

Speaker 25 No, he plays with the Bucs. He played the winning championship with the Bucs.

Speaker 25 And I think Anna Jones. I played against Anna Jones.
Dad is Henry Jones. Played safety for the Bills.
Anna Cockrell. That's her name.
Anna Cockrell.

Speaker 25 So it was a sweep for the lady, the lady Trojans and the 400 hurdles. But Delilah Muhammad, she wins.

Speaker 25 Cockrell was got the silver. And Jones got got the bronze.

Speaker 25 But

Speaker 25 they hype this up. I wanted what you call it because, you know, Film could go over there and be like, oh, Filmka,

Speaker 25 she can't see CA.

Speaker 25 Unless CA got a rock in a shoe.

Speaker 25 Gabby Thomas takes third place to make the U.S. team in the 200 and a photo finish by 0.001.

Speaker 25 The reigning Olympic champ barely, barely made it. But Melissa Jefferson, she put this way, she put this race away immediately.

Speaker 25 Immediately. She's like, man, I ain't bulldog with y'all.

Speaker 25 Y'all play too much. But

Speaker 25 hey,

Speaker 25 play with your kids. And I ain't one of them.

Speaker 25 Melissa Jefferson, she ran 2184.

Speaker 25 Battle, 2213. Gabby Thomas, 2220.
Brittany Brown, 2220. Mackenzie Long, 2220.

Speaker 25 Deja Stevenson, 2251. Madison White, 2256.
Kayla White, 2271. And Jameesa Ford, the South Carolina Game Cock, ran 2288.

Speaker 25 Blistering Tires, but boy, Melissa Jefferson.

Speaker 25 Man, I mean, look at you got three 2220s.

Speaker 25 Look how close that was, Ocho.

Speaker 25 By a foot, a spike, it looked like.

Speaker 25 Richardson misses the world.

Speaker 25 Shakari, she missed, she, you know,

Speaker 25 she got to get right. She got some stuff going on, but

Speaker 25 I think

Speaker 25 she's the reigning 100-meter champ at the world. So we can see she gets her reaction time.
She got to get better reaction. She's powerful.
She's explosive. But you can't spot these women.
Oh, Choe.

Speaker 25 Foot two, not catching 42.

Speaker 25 These people are too, they're too

Speaker 25 fast.

Speaker 25 You run 10-7.

Speaker 25 You're not finna spot somebody that runs 10-7 and run them down.

Speaker 25 She's giving up too much ground. I mean,

Speaker 25 her three phases of racing is similar to Noah Lyle's.

Speaker 25 Noah Lyle. Noah Lyle's finish, crazy.

Speaker 25 Because he got 200 meter speed. Exactly.
And

Speaker 25 I mean, 200 meter endurance. And

Speaker 25 Shakiri, the same way. But the back end of her race, strong as hell.

Speaker 25 She's giving up too much ground, though, Ojo.

Speaker 25 You can't give up. You can't give up.
And that's what Usain realized. Usain said, man, look here.

Speaker 25 As long as I can just, if I can just stay in striking distance, because what once I get out of my drive phase and I stand up,

Speaker 25 he's coming to get you. And

Speaker 25 it looks like he's catching everybody, but he's just maintaining his speed.

Speaker 25 Yeah, he just

Speaker 25 decelerating. It takes him longer than decelerating.
He's just speed, that's all it is. And everybody else is just decelerating.
Oh, that's that's dope. That's dope.

Speaker 25 Oh, Joe, Texas High School track star Cooper Lukenhaus breaks the under-18 world qualified record uh and

Speaker 25 a championships 16 years old

Speaker 25 for context uh that would be the equivalent of him running 1975

Speaker 25 4388 a 345 mile or 1246 5k

Speaker 25 which is 3.1 mile he ran 142 27.

Speaker 25 He's 16 ocho

Speaker 25 now check this out Ocho. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 25 You can't come back to school.

Speaker 25 What are they going to do with him in high school, Ocho?

Speaker 25 He had the record at 145. He took three seconds off it.

Speaker 25 So, who's going to beat him in high school? So, you line up and you're like, well, well, I guess I get a second coach. Oh, coach, you know, my stomach hurting today.
I don't want to race against him.

Speaker 25 Nothing.

Speaker 25 Nothing.

Speaker 25 The man 16 running in the world championships.

Speaker 25 And I ain't talking about it as no alternate. I'm talking about he got second

Speaker 25 142. That's crazy.
I knew they was running a time because they went through that line at 49.

Speaker 25 Rhadesia went through the line at 49. When he ran 140, Kip Keeter had the record, 141.1.

Speaker 25 And when Deeja went through the line in 2012 at 49, I was like, oh, my God.

Speaker 25 he got a chance at this.

Speaker 25 He really got a chance at this. And then he goes 140.90.
I'm like, oh, my goodness. That's crazy.

Speaker 25 And y'all know we're going to be on this track thing now. So, y'all, hey, if y'all looking at that track coverage, hey, my guy, Rye, congrats, nephew.
40, what did he run? 46.89, 46, 86.

Speaker 25 But like he said, 46.86 ain't going to win you nothing. Not when you got Dos Santos.
Not when you got Warholm.

Speaker 25 Samba.

Speaker 25 Samba,

Speaker 25 he's been kind of hit or miss.

Speaker 25 Kyra McMaster. I don't know if he can get down to,

Speaker 25 but Warrenholm and Dos Santos,

Speaker 25 you're gonna probably need to be sub.

Speaker 25 I almost say you're gonna probably need to be sub 46.5.

Speaker 25 And this, it kind of like the, you know what it reminds you of? It's like the big three in tennis.

Speaker 25 Nadal, Federer, Jokic, Jokovich.

Speaker 25 Because you got Dos Santos, reigning world champ. You got the reigning Olympic champ, and you got a world champ, Olympic champ, and the world record holder.
And they're basically all in their prime.

Speaker 25 They're all dosantos is the youngest. I think Dos Santos is like 25.

Speaker 25 He's the youngest. But they're all in the absolute

Speaker 25 Rai look good today. I like that he didn't panic when the young man took it out because normally Rye would like, okay, let me go track him down.

Speaker 25 No,

Speaker 25 I see you. I see you.
I see you. So

Speaker 25 he ran his race, but

Speaker 25 I'm excited. So, hey, we will be providing full coverage of the world's mid-September nightcap will be your

Speaker 25 tracking field. Hey, that's what we do.

Speaker 25 And, you know, what we try to do, we're going to try to get some of the young men and women to come on and talk to us like we did last year um and so i'm i'm very excited about that

Speaker 25 uh september 13th through september uh 21st so

Speaker 25 melissa jefferson favorite oh

Speaker 25 been a long time oh it's been a long time since we you know we swept uh the women swept it we look at it sweep it now they swept it last year well i'm talking about the same lady i don't know about us and i don't know ojo man kashane thompson he's explosive.

Speaker 25 He can get out.

Speaker 25 Oblique Seville, man, the Jamaica, man,

Speaker 25 they ticked off.

Speaker 25 They ticked off, Ocho, about that Olympic stuff. They're mad about that.

Speaker 25 They're going to have to show us.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 25 We need to, the men need to show that we can get the baton around the track. That's what we need to show.

Speaker 25 Damn.

Speaker 25 You're going to drop the damn baton.

Speaker 25 Ah, Ocho.

Speaker 25 Indianapolis Coach running back, Salvon Ahmed was taken to the hospital for x-rays after suffering what was reported a severe leg injury during practice. Ahmed was taken down.

Speaker 25 Ocho.

Speaker 25 Was this his same, was this his teammate, Ash?

Speaker 25 Or were they in a joint practice?

Speaker 25 Ahmed was reportedly taken down with a hip-drop tackle, a move that was banned from the NFL ahead of the 2024 season, resulting in significant injury.

Speaker 25 The tackle was made by undrafted free free agent Trey Washington, who head coach Shane Steichen acknowledged afterward was shaken up by the incident. Ocho, a teammate.

Speaker 25 Live tackling drills.

Speaker 25 That's unfortunate.

Speaker 25 The play occurred during the developmental period where drills involved third-string players. Play was live, meaning tackling was permitted in that part of the practice.
But you can't hip drop.

Speaker 25 That's why they could.

Speaker 25 Joe, I'm surprised they took them this long because Roy Williams, how many people got a T.O. That's how T.O.
broke him up? That's more horse collar, you know, hip.

Speaker 25 The horse collar, but then guys started dropping their weight down.

Speaker 25 Yeah, they,

Speaker 25 listen,

Speaker 25 if you take the wrong angle, most of the time the hip drop, the hip drop tackle, it saves you if you can't catch the person now. You ain't gonna be able to do it.

Speaker 25 You'll be able to do it now. So

Speaker 25 whoever running most of the time is a running back, they getting all them extra yards because

Speaker 25 you can't drop your weight on them no more.

Speaker 25 No,

Speaker 25 I messed up my ankle like that.

Speaker 25 That ankle gets pinned up underneath the body.

Speaker 25 Ain't nothing you can do on your own.

Speaker 25 But that's 180, 190, 200, whatever the power of weight, man, all that weight down on you.

Speaker 25 Yeah,

Speaker 25 ain't nothing you can do. Not at all.

Speaker 25 Knee, you blow out a knee, patella, break an ankle, break a leg. That's the best thing you can do as fast as you can.

Speaker 25 I know it's kind of hard to do when you feel that them putting that weight on you, just let your body go. Your body has to be in a relaxed state.

Speaker 25 When you try to fight it or you, or you, you, you stiff, and then

Speaker 25 it some got to give.

Speaker 25 And you got to, your body, you got to give your body up right away as soon as you feel that weight on that weight on you like that.

Speaker 25 Anthony Richards cuts out Skittles. he says i need to be more of a pro with my eating ojo

Speaker 25 and it has no bearing and means nothing what you what you what you consume what you in your intake it means nothing marsha

Speaker 25 it does

Speaker 25 marshawn lynch skittles in the middle of the game

Speaker 25 me mcdonald's before the game

Speaker 25 it means nothing

Speaker 25 either you know how to play or you can't either you got it or you don't what you put in your goddamn system is not going to change nothing

Speaker 25 Now, now, now, now you're mentally fucking yourself. Well, maybe if I stop eating this, then this will help.
But this, no, it's not.

Speaker 25 It will,

Speaker 25 it won't. It won't.
It will, oh, hold on, hold on. Keep that thought.
Let me go to the bathroom.

Speaker 25 You think,

Speaker 25 well, I'm glad Tom Brady ate whatever he wanted.

Speaker 25 I don't think he did.

Speaker 25 Look, we're going to go back and forth. Y'all know Ocho setting his ways.
Ocho believes you can do, but I just believe as

Speaker 25 an elite athlete,

Speaker 25 that's what you're trying to do. If you know better, you do better.
And it's a situation where what you get out, what you put in.

Speaker 25 Put in optimal food, you get an optimal performance. Now,

Speaker 25 Ocho likes to take isolated incidences

Speaker 25 and work with that.

Speaker 25 I disagree. I strenuously disagree.
I vehemently disagree. I don't.

Speaker 25 You want to know why injuries are continuing to increase? All these soft tissue injuries?

Speaker 25 Because these goddamn fools keep listening to all these experts and all these damn scientists eating like goddamn rabbits, eating all this green shit.

Speaker 25 Ocho, Ocho, let's not demonetize this tonight. What I did, I curse?

Speaker 25 Curse it. Yeah.

Speaker 25 Yeah, like like 14 times in like 15 words

Speaker 25 my bad you know i get real passionate when we talk

Speaker 25 about yes i don't

Speaker 25 i don't but i'm just saying

Speaker 25 okay

Speaker 25 yes uh

Speaker 25 but i do think there's a correlation

Speaker 25 um

Speaker 25 between

Speaker 25 And I'm not saying that, you know,

Speaker 25 you have to eat all one way, but to eat like you did before,

Speaker 25 I just don't, I don't, I don't, I don't see it.

Speaker 25 You put premium gas in your car, right?

Speaker 25 Why don't you just put regular gas in your new car?

Speaker 25 I don't know. No, you don't.

Speaker 25 You don't. You don't.
When you had that Ferrari, when you had that Bugatti, you did not put regular gas in it. Why not, Ocho?

Speaker 25 Tell the people why you did not put regular gas, the lowest grade of gas in that car. Tell the people why you didn't do it.
The comparison.

Speaker 25 Yeah, I do. Because we play a barbaric sport.
You have to eat. You have to eat.
You have to eat. Not that healthy.

Speaker 25 That's why everybody's falling apart. You're falling apart because you're eating like a goddamn infant.

Speaker 25 Eat food. No.
You have to eat.

Speaker 25 You got to build up a callus in the body. That's why everybody's falling apart.
Everybody getting hurt.

Speaker 25 everybody um nobody touching you they falling apart like a barbie doll when you remember the barbie doll back in the days oh oh oh

Speaker 25 derrick henry healthy derrick henry healthy what

Speaker 25 no derrick henry

Speaker 25 yes he does he don't okay listen derrick henry the healthy lebron james he healthy okay tom brady health that's three people out of how many

Speaker 25 out of how many we talk about the we talk about the special greats

Speaker 25 Hey, all-time greats.

Speaker 25 Oh, so you mean, so you think if people eat like them, you think they're going to be all-time? No. No, no, you're not.
You're not.

Speaker 25 You think people eat like, oh, Joe, they're going to go to the NFL?

Speaker 25 No, there's no.

Speaker 25 Oh, okay. Okay.
I'm just checking.

Speaker 25 Listen, at some point, people are going to listen to me. People are going to listen to me.
No, they don't. I hope they're going to be.

Speaker 25 Everybody on that healthy kick and everybody keep getting hurt. That's all I'm gonna say.
I ain't gonna say nothing else.

Speaker 25 Y'all keep letting people fool you and selling you a product just to make some damn money. Talk about, oh, is this gonna keep you this?

Speaker 25 Oh,

Speaker 25 Derrick Henry, gluten-free.

Speaker 25 Derrick Henry avoids all gluten-free. Dairy-free, he eliminates dairy product from his diet.
No fried food. Derrick Henry avoids all fried food.
No artificial sugar. Intermittent fasting.

Speaker 25 Henry often practices intermittent fasting, consuming the first half of his meal later in the day. Sample meal plans,

Speaker 25 pre-practice, kale, avocado, or banana. Post-practice, chicken breasts, rice, broccoli, second meal, gluten-free pancakes, scrambled eggs.
Additional notes.

Speaker 25 Henry consumes large amounts of protein, typically around 200 grams a day. He uses a personal chef to prepare his meal.
He spends around $250,000 per year on his diet and body maintenance.

Speaker 25 His diet is tailored to individual needs and may be depending on the season.

Speaker 25 What did Michael Jordan? What did Michael Jordan eat before games?

Speaker 25 McDonald's. What did Usain Bo eat before races? McDonald's.
Case clothes.

Speaker 25 Case close. Probably.

Speaker 25 Well, if Jordan might have got 20 years,

Speaker 25 maybe he got 20 years like Coleman LeBron. He didn't have to get 20 years, obviously, because he still considers the what?

Speaker 25 by who you know not me i'm just saying i'm just society in general i mean i'm not you know i'm i'm not i'm not a

Speaker 25 i'm just you know okay

Speaker 25 hey

Speaker 25 when you come you know don't eat all that bulljob man y'all don't listen

Speaker 25 don't listen to me go out there eat healthy Maybe one day you'll be Tom Brady and Derrick Henry and LeBron James. And yeah, good luck with that.
Okay.

Speaker 25 That's what's going to happen.

Speaker 25 The bond between Bijan Robinson and Kristen McCaffrey is strong. Bijan has been training, recovering with C-Mac all June and July in LA.
OJo, we know iron sharpens iron.

Speaker 25 What should we expect from Bijan in Atlanta this year?

Speaker 25 Listen, we should see, we should, we should expect you know what we saw last year, but more of uh, obviously, uh, high usage of him in the offense.

Speaker 25 Uh, he's really, really good, he's really good, but obviously, with him being somewhat of a, what's the word I'm going to look for?

Speaker 25 The security blanket, I don't want to, I don't want to be the security blanket for Michael Pennix Jr. I want Kyle Pitts to be a security blanket.
I want that offense to run through him.

Speaker 25 Obviously, Bijan is a special, very, very special talent.

Speaker 25 He will be the feature back, obviously, in that offense.

Speaker 25 But, you know, we talked to Brother Kyle and I'm looking for Kyle to have a bounce back season and get back to what he did his rookie year because this is this is money year.

Speaker 25 This is money year for him. But

Speaker 25 I agree. I definitely agree.
And look, it all comes down to health. And a lot of times, Ocho, you start to doubt yourself because when you injured a bunch, you're like, damn, is it just bad luck?

Speaker 25 You started like, damn, here we go again. And

Speaker 25 it starts to process or the cycle

Speaker 25 mentally.

Speaker 25 He just got to stay healthy. Basically,

Speaker 25 his best season was his rookie season. He was healthy.
And he hasn't really

Speaker 25 been able to string together a healthy season since.

Speaker 25 You heard what Saquon said about Dijon, huh?

Speaker 25 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
To get that kind of praise from Mr. Barkley, you already know you're special.

Speaker 25 Who's your favorite teammate or competitor to trade with during the offseason?

Speaker 25 It was a group of us, though. And it wasn't, I mean, it wasn't an actual teammate with the Bengals, but it was me, Andre Johnson, Santana, Antonio Brown.

Speaker 25 I'm missing somebody. Santana, Andre Johnson, Antonio Brown.
I'm missing somebody. It was one more with us.

Speaker 25 Santana Moss. Yeah, so us, us four,

Speaker 25 we trained during the offseason together. Now, that was fun.
Yeah, that was fun.

Speaker 25 Those are fun days.

Speaker 25 You see,

Speaker 25 come in and get some of that running. So y'all ain't put that running in.
All you do is want to run rocks.

Speaker 25 But I did.

Speaker 25 to understanding i had all the running that was that was going to happen in training camp my running my conditioning was boxing, not fighting for real, but just the boxing, the footbrook, and the icon.

Speaker 25 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 25 the bag is hitting the mess and stuff. Yes, yes, man, they did it, man.
They're goddamn man. That

Speaker 25 man, three years a long time.

Speaker 25 That type of condition was, oh man, it was tremendous because when I had, when we had to report to camp and had to do that conditioning test, and they trying to figure out why the hell you still running,

Speaker 25 yeah. So the body was already ready, already acclimated.

Speaker 25 All right, Ocho, final segment of the evening.

Speaker 25 It's time for Q ⁇ A.

Speaker 25 Woo!

Speaker 25 Aaron Jones, Cole Hawker, is a low-known name. Actually, he's not.
He won the Olympic gold medal in the 1500 last year. So, okay, but okay, I get what you're But his final lap is almost perfect.

Speaker 25 He won the 5K this year. He only seems to be improving.
Well, the thing is, if you make it that type of race,

Speaker 25 if you know you got a kicker, you got to take the pace out. You got to take the kick out of him.

Speaker 25 If you let it come down to a kick race, kickers will outkick you.

Speaker 25 You got to take that zap. You got to take the sting out of those legs.
Push the pace.

Speaker 25 for a number of years that's what the kenyans did to el garouche he was the greatest

Speaker 25 but they would push the pace and they would take turns pushing the pace

Speaker 25 they would zap him

Speaker 25 then he got smart

Speaker 25 run my race

Speaker 25 and then i think it was sydney uh

Speaker 25 he won the he won the what the 5k and the 1500 finally he's great he's the greatest 1500 meter i mean and there have been been some great 1500 meter runners.

Speaker 25 You know, Nordine Musalee, Saida Wida, you know,

Speaker 25 Sebastian Coe,

Speaker 25 they're not him.

Speaker 25 John Walker,

Speaker 25 no.

Speaker 25 Kano,

Speaker 25 that Moroccan, he could do it. Until somebody get that 326, holler at your boy.

Speaker 25 Holler at your boy. Then we can talk.
But like I said,

Speaker 25 for him to take down

Speaker 25 Nordine Musa Lee's record, like I said,

Speaker 25 no.

Speaker 25 But Cole Hawker, look,

Speaker 25 distance running. I mean, look, oh,

Speaker 25 we like the glamour. We like speed.

Speaker 25 Nobody, we like speed. Nobody likes to see people

Speaker 25 round and round and round and round. Nah, bro.
Hey,

Speaker 25 the best

Speaker 25 I can give you, I give you 800. I give you that.

Speaker 25 But mainly 400 down,

Speaker 25 420.

Speaker 25 Hurdles. That's what I got for you.
No, but Cole Hawker, they left it a kick race, and that's what happened.

Speaker 25 Kimberly Norwood Jr., I honestly don't think Michael would leave for another team if he doesn't get money he wants. Where would he play next year? Tell Jerry to trade him.
You'll see.

Speaker 25 I tell you what, tell Jerry don't put that tag on him and see if he'll go play for somebody next year.

Speaker 25 He absolutely would. And somebody would make him the highest paid, go 45 million a year.

Speaker 25 Yes.

Speaker 25 Yes.

Speaker 25 No, he or not, Jerry's not going to trade him. Jerry's not going to be foolish enough to trade him.
And Jerry's not going to let him back him into a corner like that either.

Speaker 25 But oh, yeah, Michael definitely would go play for somebody else. Dr.
Frankie L.

Speaker 25 Bellamy said, hey, fam, yesterday we celebrated two unforgettable moments, Sterling Induction to the Hall of Fame and my mom's birthday. And you know, I ordered my bottle.
Love Love y'all.

Speaker 25 Doc, thank you very much. We appreciate that so much.
Happy birthday, mom. Hopefully you enjoyed it.
Hope y'all had some steaks on the grill, some ribs, whatever, mac and cheese, baked beans.

Speaker 25 But this was very joyous celebration for the Sharp household this weekend, one that we will not soon forget. Aaron Owens says, Drew Brees is the first ballot next year.

Speaker 25 Do you think they double up and put Eli in too, or is he going to have to wait a little longer?

Speaker 25 Drew Brees obviously is a first battle Hall of Famer.

Speaker 25 I mean, all those 5,000-yard seasons, he's a Super Bowl MVP, he's an offensive player of the year.

Speaker 25 He had the records until Tom broke them. Yeah,

Speaker 25 he's a first Battle Hall of Famer. Eli situation, look,

Speaker 25 I'll let y'all debate that.

Speaker 25 All I know is the Sharp brothers.

Speaker 25 Mary Alice Dixon got two boys.

Speaker 25 Her two sons are first.

Speaker 25 So, Eli, JJ,

Speaker 25 and TJ,

Speaker 25 Travis, and Jason.

Speaker 25 Robert Dragon says salute 84 and 88. You fellas are killing it.
Congrats to your brother, Shanna. And Chad, you're up next in the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 25 I got my own jacket.

Speaker 25 Can't find that. Can't find that Joker.

Speaker 25 I think that guy got it, Ocho. You need to tell him you want it back.

Speaker 25 T-Double said, I've watched every night, Captain Club Shea Shea interview from start. And Jim, I love what you do.
Do the analytics, top two in both minutes stats. Thank you, bro.

Speaker 25 I appreciate that, man. I really appreciate that support.
That means a lot.

Speaker 25 Ocho and I, we try to do the best job we possibly can.

Speaker 25 Try to get topics that

Speaker 25 you guys, we think you guys will be interested in. And some things that, you know, we can go have a healthy discussion about.

Speaker 25 Some things we agree on some things we don't that's just the way it is that's that's just the way television works we don't script anything the only thing is that we try to come up with topics that you think you'll that we think you'll be interested in and we can have a healthy discussion one way or another whether we agree or disagree about said topic That's how we do it.

Speaker 25 And Club Shay Shea, I try to find the most interesting guests, and I try to ask questions that I think you, if you were in my chair, I try to ask questions that I think you would ask if you were sitting in my chair.

Speaker 25 Nothing more, nothing less. You know, people like, oh, you being messy.
I'm just trying to, I still haven't figured out Ocho Howe is messy. I asked Flashy a question.

Speaker 25 Now, Brittany Grinder started this. Britney Grinder said she could beat Boogie Cousins.
This was before Boogie, Taurus Metella, AC, other stuff. Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 25 yes. Brittany Grinder said she could beat, she could beat Boogie 101.

Speaker 25 Asia Wilson, I think she was on

Speaker 25 Josh Hart and Jalen Brunson podcast. They asked her, maybe tongue-in-cheek,

Speaker 25 if she played Josh Hart. She said she could beat Josh Hart playing one-on-one.

Speaker 25 So I asked Floss yesterday, you know,

Speaker 25 Asia said, she said, Asia to go, gave her props. Three-time league MVP, a defensive player of the year, a finals MVP.

Speaker 25 You make a case right now. She's a top five W NBA player all time.
Got no problem with that.

Speaker 25 You being messy.

Speaker 25 She says she can beat an NBA player one-on-one.

Speaker 25 Brittany Grider said it, and they mean it too, huh? They're not just dead, I think they

Speaker 25 believe they could win. That's part of their competitive spirit, that's part of their competitive nature, realistically, but they can't.
You know why? Because when it becomes physical,

Speaker 25 this is why they,

Speaker 25 if that was, if they could do it, we wouldn't be complaining about transgender competing. There's a difference in testosterone levels.

Speaker 25 You can't.

Speaker 25 You're just not.

Speaker 25 Shakari is

Speaker 25 Melissa Jefferson can run,

Speaker 25 but she's not beating the top high school track guy.

Speaker 25 Those guys run in 10. The guy just ran 992.
Marcus Gleaton

Speaker 25 from here in Georgia. He ran 992

Speaker 25 because

Speaker 25 it's physical. And when it comes to physical men and women, that's why they shouldn't compete.
That's why they don't compete. That's why they got women leagues.
They got men's leagues

Speaker 25 it's okay

Speaker 25 and i like

Speaker 25 i like watching it but

Speaker 25 if we being true for ocho if we being all the way 1000 everybody knows listen that's the confidence that they supposed to have they supposed to think like that even though to us realistically if the game becomes

Speaker 25 You confident. You think at any point in time in your career, as confident as you are, you could not run USAP? Hell no, but I talk some.

Speaker 25 Why you're not confident? So you don't confident like I can't.

Speaker 25 I'm gonna talk trash like I can, knowing damn well I can't. He go, he ain't gonna hear you because he's gonna be finished, you're gonna be halfway through.

Speaker 25 So, when you get to the finish line, listen, I'm the one the wrong one to ask when it comes to being confident about doing anything. You know, you're

Speaker 25 but you, but look, I get it, but like, I don't, I'm like, and I thought Flashy answered that she's like, Hey, man, age of the goat,

Speaker 25 but

Speaker 25 I mean, six, eight, them guys wearing 230, 240, just from a physical standpoint, Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 25 Yeah. No.

Speaker 25 Lil Ninja said, what's up, Ukanocho? Ocho, stop capping, B. You dumping best man player.
You've been ducking Cam forever.

Speaker 25 Who the hell, motherfucking made Cam this motherfucker, this great player where he's like the pinnacle of all Madden players. Man, Cam ain't good, man.
Cam can't beat me in nothing, man,

Speaker 25 let alone Madden. Can't beat me in tennis either.

Speaker 25 There's nothing Cam Newton can beat me in. Nothing.

Speaker 25 Madden, tennis, racquetball, ping-pong,

Speaker 25 nothing.

Speaker 25 Stanard said, uh-oh, Joe, you guys think adding Keening Allen would upgrade Chargers' wide receiver room? Absolutely, yes. A viable target.

Speaker 25 Now, I'm not sure where he's going to go because Lad McConkey, he dominates the middle of the field.

Speaker 25 Hey, put Keene on the other side. So we got two slot guys.
One of them, hey, both can win. Consistently.

Speaker 25 Both can win.

Speaker 25 And I think Keenan wanted to be back in LA. His family's here.

Speaker 25 I like it. I like this move.

Speaker 25 Earl to the ring said, I was mostly disturbed over Sterling not being the last speaker. First two brothers, he wasn't disturbed.
Hell, he wanted, actually, he wanted to be first.

Speaker 25 Get it out of the way, huh?

Speaker 25 Yeah, man. Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 25 He,

Speaker 25 like I said,

Speaker 25 he didn't write a speech.

Speaker 25 I had no idea he was going to.

Speaker 25 Knowing him, I kind of had the direct, kind of, you know, felt the direction that he was going to kind of go in. I knew

Speaker 25 he wasn't going to be as long as I was because he felt Shannon had already covered that.

Speaker 25 You know, if you notice, he didn't spend a whole lot of time talking about about Granny. He didn't spend a whole lot of time talking about Papa.

Speaker 25 Talked about Libby. Talked about my mom, how he appreciated her giving him a name that stood out.

Speaker 25 Talked about why he did certain things and X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 25 But

Speaker 25 he's different.

Speaker 25 Once you get him to open up, you can't get him to shut up. But the hard part is getting him to open up because he's very guarded.
Very

Speaker 25 Mayhem Matthew reaction to Brock Lesnar returning.

Speaker 25 You glad he's returning?

Speaker 20 Me?

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 25 I think he hold on.

Speaker 25 They had something tonight, right?

Speaker 25 Because I saw John Cena.

Speaker 25 There was an end that had SummerSlam.

Speaker 25 Okay.

Speaker 25 Yeah.

Speaker 25 I mean, look,

Speaker 25 he's a very talented guy. I mean,

Speaker 25 all-American wrestler did UFC.

Speaker 25 He can wrestle in WWE.

Speaker 25 Why not?

Speaker 25 I like it.

Speaker 25 I just don't like what you call him being. I don't like John Cena being a heel.

Speaker 25 I don't like John cena being a heel but hey

Speaker 25 anybody can turn heel

Speaker 25 john can do it it's the last last trip around the sun wwe why not thank you guys for joining us for another episode of nightcap i am your favorite unc Shannon Sharp my partner and co-host Liberty City's own Bingles Ring of Fame honoree Madden Adjuster Pro Bowler all pro that's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button tell family friends and loved ones to do likewise and go subscribe to the Nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from.

Speaker 25 I'd like to thank each and every one of you from the Nightcap family. Thank you for your support and your continued support because you, we get to do what we do.
Thank you again.

Speaker 25 Make sure you check out Shea by Laportier. We have a new drop, limited edition release to honor my brother Sterling going into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

Speaker 25 And we're the first brothers in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. It's just not a bottle.
It's a tribute.

Speaker 25 And once it's gone, it's gone so please grab yours while supplies last please go follow my media company page on all of its platforms shay shea media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out supplies are limited and once they're gone they're gone that link is pinned into the chat thank you guys for joining us again thank you guys that that commented uh that liked the photos of my brother and I and all the things that were going on Hall of Fame weekend.

Speaker 25 It was a very, very special occasion. And we got some stuff.
Jordan was there and shot a lot of stuff behind the scenes. So, we're going to be getting that up to you in the incoming days.

Speaker 25 But thank you guys for your support. It's been amazing.
And thanks to you,

Speaker 25 you make what we do all worthwhile doing it.

Speaker 25 I'm Uncle. He's Ocho.
We're back tomorrow at the same time. See you, Manana.
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