Club Shay Shay - Daniel Cormier Part 2

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Speaker 28 Thank you for coming back. Part two is underway.
You and Connor went back and forth on social media,

Speaker 28 but you said it's over for Connor.

Speaker 28 I mean, the money, the money that he made from Floyd, the money that he's made off his alcohol, the money that he's making now to go back into, I mean, you're worth $300 million to go in there and it's like, you know what?

Speaker 28 I want to get kicked in my face, hit in my face, elbowed in my face. Need.

Speaker 33 Yeah, there's no need there.

Speaker 28 He doesn't need that. He doesn't need this anymore.

Speaker 28 Marvin Hackler said, it's hard to get up in the morning when you're sleeping on satin sheets, right?

Speaker 33 Way back in the day. Yes.

Speaker 28 There are a few sayings in the world that are untrue.

Speaker 28 That was.

Speaker 28 Like, you know, that one where it's like, to be the champion, you got to defend the belt? That's bullshit. Ric Flair started that.

Speaker 28 to beat a man you got to beat yeah rick flair started that man i'll be i'll beat the man that beat the man and be just as happy give me one belt the moment they put that belt on you you're the champion right but fighters have actually believed that

Speaker 28 connor it's it's the the the and he's one of the biggest superstars in the world right he can't walk into any room without everybody knowing who he is right so the access he has How's he going to look past all of that to go to a training camp to fight?

Speaker 28 Especially if he he wants to do it right.

Speaker 28 Francis Nganu. He was in the UFC.
He left.

Speaker 28 It seems to be there's some speculation that he might be wanting to come back.

Speaker 28 There was this talk about Francis fighting John. Yep.

Speaker 28 Would you like to see that fight? I would have. I would have.
Not now.

Speaker 28 I would now still. Back then I wanted to because Francis in his last fight against Cyril,

Speaker 28 his wrestling looked better.

Speaker 28 But I do believe that if he fought John, John, that's a more serviceable fight for John because John can wrestle now. Yes.
And he probably would just take Francis down.

Speaker 28 Yeah, you don't want to stay toe-to-toe with it. No, and dude, do you remember when he would elbow people in the back in the day? Like, he just, I think Francis would have to knock him out.

Speaker 28 But Francis could knock people out, man. I've never seen anybody hit harder than Francis and God.
Yeah, he got power. He's got the most power I've ever seen in my life.
He be knocking dudes.

Speaker 28 He hit Alistair Oveream and his head,

Speaker 28 the back of his head touched between his shoulders. He hit him with an uppercut the back of his head touched between his shoulders as he was falling down i've never seen anything like it

Speaker 28 but francis boxed because okay he uh tights and fury and it gave him some confidence and then he ended up fighting ash anthony joshua got knocked out but he made some money i mean yep he's the only one that's actually done that and it worked out because he was a heavyweight champ right and and shannon

Speaker 28 he looks like the heavyweight champ yeah when he became the champion i was like like, okay, look at him. Now you look like you're looking at the baddest man on the planet.
Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 28 You're looking like this dude, Francis and Gano, who looks like he can walk into any place. And you go, well, that's a dude I'm not trying to camp.
I ain't messing with you.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 33 he had it.

Speaker 28 So when he moved over, it worked. He was the heavyweight champ.
Yeah. But shit, he dropped Tyson Fury.
Yeah. Remember, he knocked him out.
I thought it was over. Yeah.
Man, you should.

Speaker 28 I exploded out of my chair. But then Anthony Joshua beat him back.

Speaker 28 And you saw when Joshua dropped him

Speaker 28 the difference in a boxer and a guy that, because Francis was like this, he needed to grab him.

Speaker 28 He got flatlined. And the thing is, is that boxers understand how to faint.
Yep.

Speaker 28 When he gave him that feint, when he gave him that feint, Francis went,

Speaker 28 boom. I was like, oh, my God.

Speaker 28 A boxer throwing a punch in the MMA, look, I understand that, you know, they both hit hard, but boxers, it's just something about that punch and where it's coming from. I mean, it's...

Speaker 28 Shannon, I went trained one time in Oakland when I first started, boxing gym. They hit you with a jab, and it's like, what the hell was that?

Speaker 28 Because they know how to punch. Yeah.
And they sit on everything. Yeah.
Boom. Boom.
It's not jab, jab, touch. You try to take you down.
Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 28 I'm just mad in there, getting my ass whooped. I'm like, if you're all I want, I can beat everybody up in here.

Speaker 28 I'll start wrestling every one of you fools. They're like, pissed off because them dudes just putting it on you.
They just putting it on you. Because there's nothing you can do.

Speaker 28 Why do you fight Brock Lesnar? The WWE got him. The WWE took him back.

Speaker 28 That was my golden goose, man. We had that moment in the ring.
I pushed him. He pushed me.

Speaker 33 WWE paid him back.

Speaker 28 They were paying Brock like six, seven million a year, maybe $10. Right.

Speaker 28 You telling me, Brock, you can go fight DC and lose, or you can go fight. Who say you're going to lose? I'm beating Brock Lesnar, man.
I was beating Brock Lesnar. That was That was a big dude, man.

Speaker 28 Don't matter, dog. Shay.

Speaker 28 I was beating Brock Lesnar. It was one of the safest fights I could have had.

Speaker 28 I'm telling you, dog. That's the truth.
It's just the truth. I like Brock, too.

Speaker 28 He's a great guy, but I watch what Kane did to him. I watch how he would react to getting punched.
And I was going to punch him. He would have to take me down to win the fight.
And I can wrestle.

Speaker 28 Yeah, but he's not a wrestler. I mean, he was a wrestler.
Yeah, he was.

Speaker 28 But if he shoots on me, I'm going to make it so hard for him to get that takedown that by the time he gets it,

Speaker 28 he's exhausted. Now I'm up to my feet, and then you're done.
That's right with Kane. He took Kane down.
Kane got up, started kneading him in his face. I saw Brock recently.

Speaker 28 He still has that scar on his eye. Really?

Speaker 33 From when Kane kneed him in the face.

Speaker 28 Yep. Still got that big scar on his eye.
Damn.

Speaker 28 It's crazy. Emma is crazy.
Is it true you got a scholarship to LSU?

Speaker 28 I got offers back then, but I had bad grades and I just was not going to college to play football.

Speaker 28 It was hard for me in the school that I was in to,

Speaker 28 first off, there's way too much pressure on football down there in Louisiana for bad.

Speaker 28 And we weren't very good.

Speaker 28 But I mean, I was the all-state MVP defensively. I was pretty much missed to everything in football because I was a good little linebacker.
But I was small.

Speaker 28 And they were talking about me playing cornerback or three safety, strong safety. I was like,

Speaker 28 how much Chase chase Randy Moss? I'm an Indian kid, though. So, like,

Speaker 28 I'm not smart.

Speaker 28 I didn't really know the difference between strong safety is more like a linebacker.

Speaker 28 Yes, yeah, but I was thinking, but I was thinking, I'm going to be chasing dudes like Randy Moss because he was graduating the same year. I was like, there's no way.
No, I'm good.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I was like, I'm going to just go wrestle, man. I'm good.
I did. I got an offer to go play football.

Speaker 28 You was in Herschel Walker's colonel, corner, or corner. Yes.
MMA. Yes.
Could Herschel have made a career out of that? Or he did what he was supposed to do? Have one fight and move it along?

Speaker 28 Shannon, I got to tell you, man.

Speaker 28 Was he really the greatest?

Speaker 28 He was one of the greatest athletes, wasn't he? Yeah, he was, yeah. Shannon, this man

Speaker 28 was so strong, but I don't think I've ever seen anybody like he was very stiff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He had no flexibility. Oh, he was, even in football? Yeah, he was stiff, yeah.

Speaker 28 Bro, he was so stiff, but when he hit you, oh, and then shit,

Speaker 28 he would like move his feet. he would move his feet but they never left the ground they never left the ground bro herschel be walking towards you like this

Speaker 28 so when this when this man would hit you sometimes he shock you you know how he rub your feet yeah it's just sometimes herschel shocking dudes hey and then we're in the back

Speaker 28 i swear to god it was the most

Speaker 28 Herschel Walker is a different individual.

Speaker 28 Herschel Walker has had some stuff in his life where it's like his anger.

Speaker 28 But if you meet him, you've met him. Yeah, for sure.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 28 He is the nicest person.

Speaker 28 We were all broke back in the day. Herschel was staying at the Intercontinental or what was the name of that hotel?

Speaker 28 Downtown San Jose?

Speaker 28 No, but it was called something else before. It was a nice one, but Herschel owned a chicken company.
You know, Herschel owns that chicken company,

Speaker 28 one of the biggest ones in the country. Yes, he does.
But because of that, they service that restaurant down there. Herschel got free rooms at this beautiful hotel downtown San Jose.

Speaker 28 He would feed us all,

Speaker 28 but he wouldn't eat. He would eat one time a day, bro.
He would eat soup and bread and some eggs. So I'm like, yo, this is the nicest guy ever.
Multi-millionaire, rich, nice, football Hall of Famer.

Speaker 28 We got at the ring

Speaker 28 or in the hallway to walk.

Speaker 28 And bro, something flipped on him. I said,

Speaker 28 this dude is dark. I was like, this is a dark son of a gun, bro.
He started talking to himself, talking about, I'm going to kill this motherfucker. They ain't going to do that.

Speaker 28 Talking about killing this dude. Wow.

Speaker 28 To get himself there,

Speaker 33 he went there.

Speaker 28 I was like, yo, I've heard people talk to themselves to hype themselves up. Herschel was on a whole nother level.
It was the most intense thing I've ever seen in my life.

Speaker 28 And he went out there and he won. Wow.

Speaker 28 He was over 40. Yeah.
He was over 40, retired from football for many, many years. Went in there, did his thing, and

Speaker 28 won a fight in strike force, which at the time was the second biggest organization of all time. But, bro, to see him go to that place, Shannon, yeah, you'd be like, yo, this dude is crazy.

Speaker 28 I look back at the other dudes, I was like, are y'all seeing this? Everybody acting normal. Herschel's talking about killing motherfuckers.

Speaker 28 Hers talk about killing people. Did you ever think about doing WWE?

Speaker 28 So I thought about it right after I was wrestling, but then it's hard. People talk about that stuff being fake.
Amen. It's scripted.
Yeah, but it ain't fake.

Speaker 28 It hurts.

Speaker 28 Oh, those falls hurt. You caught it.
Oh, you got to throw your arms back. Yeah.
So every time

Speaker 28 it's like slapping against the ring.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Or when you run the ropes, those ropes, they burn you. Like,

Speaker 28 it's hard, man.

Speaker 28 And that's why you see them all break down like that. Yeah.
Like,

Speaker 28 they're all like messed up. Like, their knees don't work.

Speaker 28 They're like football players and us. Y'all got it hard.
Football's hard, man.

Speaker 28 The wear and tear on the body is

Speaker 28 crazy. And so is MMA in wrestling.
I'm one of the lucky ones. I feel like I got out pretty clean.
Right.

Speaker 28 Derek Lewis. Yeah, Back Beast.
Bro,

Speaker 28 he coming there to do one thing. You already know.
He ain't tried to take you down.

Speaker 28 He ain't tried to kick you.

Speaker 28 He ain't tried to knee you. He tried to elbow you.
Trying to knock you out. He tried to knock you out.
The knockout kick. That's it.
He got more knockouts than anybody in the history of UFC.

Speaker 28 He hits hard. I fought him.

Speaker 28 He hits hard. When he hit me, I was holding his leg up.
Yeah. And he just kind of went like this, and it skimmed down my eye.
Next day, I woke up with a big old black eye. Wow.
He kicked me.

Speaker 28 I had knots all in my forearms.

Speaker 28 He was, oh, but he knocks these dudes out, man. He knows exactly.
Hey, yo, did you see him a couple weeks ago?

Speaker 28 Did you see his poor wife in there, man?

Speaker 28 Did you?

Speaker 28 Did you see her? He's about to grow if he got there.

Speaker 28 Did you see his wife? She was in there so embarrassed that the camera pans to her. Yeah, yeah.
I'm in there interviewing this man. I'm like, this dude, Derek, was about to say some crazy stuff.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 And I go,

Speaker 28 who do you want to fight next? Like, what do you want next? He looks over at his wife like,

Speaker 28 gonna be a lot of grounding palm going. I was like, boy.
And then she got to stand there and try to stay composed, knowing that Derek's out of his mind. But you were the first man to submit him.

Speaker 28 I did. Yeah.

Speaker 28 He couldn't wrestle. It was why I fought him.
They called me three weeks before the fight to fight him. Right.

Speaker 33 You like, sure.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Easy money.
Yeah. i knew i knew he couldn't wrestle so i knew

Speaker 28 his uh his cardio and if i if i can extend him he would get tired right but yeah just if you couldn't wrestle like i was fighting you yeah but you got to go i mean you got to get past those three rounds because you let him get you in the first round yeah he hits you gonna knock you out yeah he but i just shot on him right away right right because he was so inexperienced with his wrestling that i like backed him up and just grabbed his leg right that's one thing i learned fighting the heavier guys yeah they don't balance well on their feet right So I would just kind of move them around until they fell down.

Speaker 28 Wow.

Speaker 28 Learn something new.

Speaker 28 Who's the hardest puncher? What's the hardest punch you've taken? Who hit you though? Probably Dan Henderson. That little dude, he was like, he was made of concrete.
Damn. Hendo.

Speaker 28 He hit so hard.

Speaker 28 He hit me. He was on his back

Speaker 28 and he hit me. And he

Speaker 28 knocked out one of my bottom teeth. I had to go to like an emergency dentist.
Damn. On Labor Day, on Memorial Day, after after he hit me from the bottom.
He hit hard.

Speaker 28 Even from in close, he would just,

Speaker 28 and it was just crazy.

Speaker 28 Obviously, there are things that you can't do, but are there dirty things that guys, you know, you're not supposed to eye gouge somebody, and you're not supposed to, obviously you can't bite, you can't do certain things, but are there certain things that guys do that the ref can't see?

Speaker 28 I always had a trick where when I would get on top of them, I would always cover their mouth. I would literally try to smother them.
Damn, DC. Yeah, I know.
Nasty.

Speaker 28 Dirty. Josh Bournette, that's not dirty.
It's like, I'm just trying to like,

Speaker 28 Josh Bournet would, like, always, like, kind of,

Speaker 28 if you let him go behind you, his hand was going like.

Speaker 28 Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah, them dudes, they, they, they try to do his life, they trying to, his life and death out there, Shannon. His life out there.
So he's like, I saw, hey, I fought Josh Bournet.

Speaker 28 I was trying to take him down. He was elbowing me.
Boom, boom. Cut me wide open here.

Speaker 28 First fight I ever had a black eye. He needed me in the eye,

Speaker 28 cut my head open.

Speaker 28 When I was a kid, I was playing football with the older kids. One dude clotheslined me, broke my collarbone.

Speaker 28 Yeah, it was bad.

Speaker 28 I walked to my mama's house because I'm trying to be tough. I'm a young kid, I can't cry.
Soon I saw my mom, I fall on the ground. Yeah, they put me in a cast, broken collarbone.

Speaker 28 I fought Josh Bournet. My mom passed in 2022

Speaker 28 when

Speaker 28 I

Speaker 28 fought Josh Barnett. I had won my first big world title, Strike Force.

Speaker 28 I was bloodied, man. My eye was open.
Everything was, they put stitches for the first time. I walked into the hotel and I'm good, taking pictures, everybody, oh, child.

Speaker 28 The moment I saw my mama, I started crying like a baby, man. I felt I'm in her lap like a seven-year-old kid again.
Please make me feel better. That's how nasty he was in there, dude.

Speaker 28 He was elbowing me.

Speaker 28 He was grabbing me he was doing everything he could to just like inflict pain on me he does that jones does that certain guys just no matter where you are they're just trying to hurt you right and like that's uh

Speaker 28 yeah

Speaker 28 but you got to be so well-rounded to do this thing now yeah if you aren't you're screwed look at ilya to poria he's a monster He's a monster.

Speaker 28 He's one of the best fighters of all time, and he's only fought eight times in the UFC. Wow, he's he's amazing.
These guys are amazing. What does it feel like to knock someone out?

Speaker 28 What does it feel like to get knocked out? Because you,

Speaker 28 and I know exactly what you're saying, because I've been knocked out and I can't remember anything. I don't remember driving to the stadium.
I don't remember what I had to eat.

Speaker 28 I don't remember anything. I just remember looking up at the scoreboard and asking my teammate Rod Smith.
I was like, We call him Foots. I say, Foots.

Speaker 28 How we get to leave?

Speaker 28 Because

Speaker 28 I don't want to laugh. No, no, but I'm like, how do we, because I just remember, like, we were losing before this happened.
And now it's the fourth quarter.

Speaker 28 And I'm like, what happens if we win this game? He said, boo, we go to the Super Bowl. I was like, yeah, yeah, we go to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 28 But

Speaker 28 it's a funny feeling to get knocked out because you really don't remember anything. Hey, my coach told me.

Speaker 28 That's just bad. I'm laughing because my coach told me, was that the last time you asked him? You probably asked him again.
No, no, that was, I was like, no, you probably asked him again.

Speaker 28 I started out like, I started jumping up and down on the side. Like, look at you.

Speaker 28 Cause we over at 14 with like three minutes to go, and we got the ball. So, this, this dude, so I get knocked out, right?

Speaker 28 That was John when he kicked you? When John kicked me, and he hit him with the follow-up shots, right? Only time I'm knocked out, I'm crying, right?

Speaker 28 Yeah, I go to my corner, I ask my coach, I said, What happened?

Speaker 28 He tells me,

Speaker 28 I break down crying, right? Yeah,

Speaker 28 Rogan interviews me as we're walking out the octagon. I look to him and I go, hey, what happened?

Speaker 28 He tells me I break down crying. He told me I did that seven times.
He had to keep explaining it to me. And then every time he explained it, I would have the exact same reaction.

Speaker 28 Like it was the first time I had heard that shit, man. That's bad.
Yo, Jenny, that's bad.

Speaker 28 He said he told me seven times. And then I'm in the ambulance because they're trying to get me in the ambulance.
I'm refusing.

Speaker 28 right finally I get in the ambulance and I wake up and I was present like nothing had happened I was like I lost

Speaker 28 they're like yeah yeah he lost I was like god damn it

Speaker 28 I swear to God I woke up and I woke up and he and I'm ambulanced like and realized like I lost did did you not because obviously so how did he how did he set the head kick up it was it was it was beautiful it was beautiful man it was beautiful he kept body kicking me.

Speaker 28 That's what he did in the first fight, too. And I kept checking.
I kept blocking. I kept blocking.
But then in the second round, I was fighting good. First round, real good.
Second round, real good.

Speaker 28 So now I'm feeling good because I feel great. My cardio is great.
Yeah. Third round, but the whole time he's just kicking me in the body.
Third time, he tries to kick me in the head.

Speaker 28 And the third round is the first, one of the first attempts, and I was like, nah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Nah.

Speaker 28 But then...

Speaker 28 He actually gave me one that looked like it was going to the body. And so I did this.
and lifted. You're supposed to lean.
Yeah. Right?

Speaker 28 You're supposed to kind of lean to kind of take some of the impact off. But when I lean, he was not going low.

Speaker 28 He was going high. Caught you.
Boom. Right on the side of the head.
So then I started doing the chicken dance, right? Like, you know, when your legs are...

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 28 And this is the, this is the, this is where, and this is where, that's why I can't stand this dude.

Speaker 28 Because somebody else that's not as good, would have let me off the hook right because I was still there. And again, that's me.
Football, neck, big neck, short neck. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Can take, most people just fall down from a head kick like that. I was still there.
So I'm like doing this thing, running away from him. Yo,

Speaker 28 he kicks my leg to spin me.

Speaker 28 Yes, I remember. So he kicks my leg.
Kick your leg out.

Speaker 28 Yeah, so I spin.

Speaker 28 It's like that shit you put the kids where they go. Yeah, so you're able to get drawn.
Then you don't know where you're at.

Speaker 28 When I did that, I fell.

Speaker 28 And that was it. I could not, my body was gone.
But like, if I was on my feet, I might have been able to grab him. I might have been able to hold him.

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Speaker 28 I might have shot. I would have done something.

Speaker 28 But because he's such a great finisher, he kicks my leg out from under me. So then I spin.

Speaker 28 And when I spin, I'm like seeing all these lights. And all of a sudden, your body starts falling.
It was like a kid trying to hit a piñata.

Speaker 28 It was crazy, man. Then I fall on my stomach.
Of all times in my world to fall on my stomach, like fall on your back to where you could see him coming, maybe get my feet up to try to block him. Right.

Speaker 28 But instead, I fell on my stomach and he jumped on me and started finishing. And I know this from watching it.
Right. So you watch it.
So you watched, when you lost that fight, you watched it over?

Speaker 28 Not for a long time. I didn't watch the fight.

Speaker 28 But it's on the highlights and stuff.

Speaker 28 The UFC don't shield us from the... If you lost,

Speaker 28 if you lost, you're going to see yourself getting beat at some point.

Speaker 28 That's why when he and Steep A fought, it was the worst. The whole week, I'm just out there.
I was like, damn, did I ever win a fight? I was just getting beat the whole time.

Speaker 28 It was terrible. I mean, that, I mean,

Speaker 28 like you said, I mean, his toolbox, the way he can finish a fight with an elbow, he can submit you. The elbow would be bad.
And then that back, that spinning... That spinning back kicking out shit.

Speaker 28 He called Stipe perfect.

Speaker 28 Poor Stipe, man.

Speaker 28 And he doesn't telegraph it. Well, the heavyweights, so boxing or wrestling, they're not doing all that.
You could tell right away when he needs Stipe, Stipe was like, what is this? Yeah,

Speaker 28 they're kneeing now. Normally, a guy's trying to either take me out of the box with me.
Maybe a couple leg kicks here and there. John was hitting them with all kinds of stuff.

Speaker 28 John hit him with knees, elbows, spinning kicks. When he hit him with that spinning kick, Steve A.
You could tell Steve A looked like a guy that hadn't fought for three and a half years and was 42.

Speaker 28 He looked knees turned on. I was like, oh, John got him.
But he is very good at setting everything up.

Speaker 28 That's why he didn't have to cheat. He did not have to cheat.
That's where my biggest issue is.

Speaker 28 You don't need to cheat. You got all that.
Keep that. Use what you have.

Speaker 28 And he always gets mad at me.

Speaker 28 He's going to be on me now if it is. Oh, I live.

Speaker 28 The other day he said he lived rent-free in my house in my brain or something like that. I'm like, man, shut up.
I don't care about you.

Speaker 28 Obviously, you were there. When Anderson Silver, was that

Speaker 28 Rockhole or was that what? Chaos Sunnin. No, when he checked him.

Speaker 28 No, that was Chris Wideman. Wideman.
Wideman's check.

Speaker 28 Had you ever seen that before?

Speaker 28 Because it happened again. Another fighter got checked.
Hey, Chris Wideman checked Anderson's, broke his leg. Yeah.
Then Chris Wideman kicked somebody else's.

Speaker 28 Wideman kicked a guy named Uriah Hall, broke his leg. So the same thing that happened to Anderson, Chris did to himself.
I can't watch it. Did you watch it? I watched it.

Speaker 28 Can you actually watch the, I can't, it looked like his leg. Yeah, it broke half.
Yeah. You watched it.
I can't watch it. Even next to the octave.
But

Speaker 28 I was watching it live at the time. But all those replays, I was like, you know how to look.

Speaker 28 Because when you see it, you're like,

Speaker 28 damn, that look.

Speaker 28 And then he's like, you try to, you know,

Speaker 28 you try to put, you know, try to balance yourself, and you just, I'm like, damn. Look like his leg broke.

Speaker 33 Yes.

Speaker 28 Dude, I had to ask Rogan and Anik. I'm like, I'm like, did it break? Did it break? Did it break? They're like, oh, it broke.
It was like, do not watch it. That was a throw up.
I mean, because

Speaker 28 you guys know how to check because this is called you know you check you like you check the kick yeah you put you either lean into it or you pick your uh

Speaker 28 you pick your your your knee up right and what they were doing were kicking on the inside that's why when you kick on the inside they just turn their knee in right and that if you kick too hard man you break your leg that's why I don't kick too much

Speaker 28 hey that's why I was out there boxing just like everybody else What's the worst injury you sustained in a fight?

Speaker 28 In a fight,

Speaker 28 just more damage like facial stuff, like black eye,

Speaker 28 cut face. I never got hurt really bad in fights, but in training, ribs, torn ACL,

Speaker 28 torn ACL, ribs.

Speaker 28 I tore some sort of

Speaker 28 this ligament in my shin one time kicking.

Speaker 28 Broken hand.

Speaker 28 I couldn't punch. I didn't know how to punch.
Remember when he had this idea that Floyd had

Speaker 28 a hand? Yes. That was me.
Like, I broke my hand five times when I started fighting. Wow.
Every time I would land right,

Speaker 28 I would break my hand. So then I have a doctor called Stidham.
He did a great job with

Speaker 28 this, and it never broke again. He put a plate with like eight screws because it just kept breaking.
But when knocking someone out,

Speaker 28 you don't feel nothing. You literally don't feel anything.
If you knock them out with a punch,

Speaker 28 sometimes you feel it's like that loud impact.

Speaker 28 when you land the right way, sometimes it's like you don't even punch them. It's like you go right through them.
But you know it. Well, they fall.

Speaker 28 They fall. When I hit Steve A with that one that put him down to become the double champ,

Speaker 28 I had just thrown that punch so many times. And it just so happened to hit him and he went down.
I didn't even feel nothing. Yeah, like what Usman caught

Speaker 28 George Nasbedoll. Yeah, Jose Masmodo.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 When he caught him with.

Speaker 28 His chin went all the way. I was like, oh, my goodness.
Mosbodal was mad at me one time because they should.

Speaker 28 I was on

Speaker 28 NFL live, and I said,

Speaker 28 when the mug, when you, when you...

Speaker 28 You caught the mug. Yeah,

Speaker 28 put him in a concussion protocol, dog. He got to go in the 10th because his chin went all the way back there.
Yeah.

Speaker 33 He went down bad.

Speaker 28 Kamaru punched through him and he just crumbled. Yeah.
It was nasty.

Speaker 28 Kamaru looked good coming back. Let me me ask you this.
When you saw Anderson Silver,

Speaker 28 he could box a little bit, but he fought Jake Paul. See, I have a problem with all that.
I don't know how y'all feel. I don't know how you guys feel about the Jake Paul Anderson, the Jake Paul.

Speaker 28 I wanted to see him fight boxers. Boxers that's his age.
Yes.

Speaker 28 I don't think that's asking too much. No, Mike Tyson.
Yeah, Mike Tyson's. He's beat up on Mike.
Mike's 60, man. Mike did make like 27 mil, so I get it.
But

Speaker 28 60 years old.

Speaker 28 I want Jake Paul to fight guys that.

Speaker 28 he says he wants to fight Canelo.

Speaker 28 Canelo fights 154 or 160.

Speaker 28 That's one his best weights. He'll fight heavier cure.

Speaker 28 He fought the guy at 175

Speaker 28 and got beat

Speaker 28 evil. Yeah, but like, it's like

Speaker 28 fight, Jake weighs 200, 210, 215. Yeah, but so that means he'd be a heavyweight.
Yeah, he's like a heavyweight. And he's talking about he says he wants to fight Anthony Joshua.

Speaker 28 That he's, if he fights Anthony Joshua,

Speaker 28 everybody's wish and dream of him getting finished will come to fruition. But I think the thing is, he's better now.
Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, he takes it seriously. He can fight.

Speaker 28 You can appreciate that. You can tell that he spends time in the gym.
You tell that he has serious coaches and he's taking this craft seriously.

Speaker 28 He ain't just getting in there, and people are like, oh, he's just. He's a YouTuber.
No, he ain't. No.
He's a boxer. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
So Jake Paul's a millionaire. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Jake Paul's not training at the local YMCA. No.
He's got real coaches on the real world. He got real coaches.
He's got high-level coaches. Yes.
And he lives to box now. Yes.

Speaker 28 He's been boxing seriously now, so he should be able to compete. Yes.
He's a boxer.

Speaker 28 He's not that same kid. That's why I keep telling those MMA guys, every time they tell me, I got a chance to fight

Speaker 28 Jake Paul. I'm like, man, don't do it.

Speaker 28 He boxed. That's what he does.
He's a boxer. You don't have to box.
No. Like my friend Ben Askren.

Speaker 33 Yeah.

Speaker 28 Ben went and fought him. Ben should have never fought him.
Yeah, no. Because he was going to get.
Ben never could wrestle. He could never box.
No. He is a wrestler.
Tyron Woodley.

Speaker 28 I was so sad when Tyron Woodley kept losing to him. I love T-Wood, man.

Speaker 33 And I was like T-Woods.

Speaker 28 Well, you don't see the butt that looks. You don't see them punches, bro.
That's not what. That's not what we do.
I can't box these guys. No.

Speaker 28 Jake Paul tried to mess with me for a while until I went up to him in Orlando. I said, I don't play like these kids.
I said, stop playing with me.

Speaker 28 His bodyguard said, I said, I'm going to slap you too.

Speaker 28 I said, I don't play like that, man.

Speaker 33 Don't leave me alone.

Speaker 28 I swear to God. I was at the commentary deshand.
Yeah. I'm sitting there.
He in the back making faces at me. I took my headset off.
I put it down. I got up, walked right to where he was in the stands.

Speaker 28 I point right in his face. I said, man, I don't play.
Leave me alone. I said, I'm not the children that you're messing around with.
I'm not going to play with you. Leave me alone.

Speaker 28 His bodyguard, I don't want to do nothing. I said, I'm going to slap the shit out of you, too.

Speaker 33 Both of y'all can get it.

Speaker 28 Fuck y'all.

Speaker 28 The security act, UFC Security can't get me. Because you know, man, come on, we're grown-ups, man.
I'm not playing.

Speaker 33 Everybody don't play like that.

Speaker 28 No, man, leave me alone. Unless you really want to fight.
John Jones, I respect because he fights me. Right.
But leave me alone. I'm not playing those childish games.
Right. Yeah, leave me alone.

Speaker 28 Do you think you see the guys in MMA going to fight, going to box? For the money. For the money.
They do it for the money.

Speaker 28 Look, man. Can you blame them, though? No, no.
No.

Speaker 28 There's only a select few people that make the big money in the UFC. Correct.
It's the God honest truth. I mean,

Speaker 28 champions make money. Yes.
Lorenzo Fertido was the best. When Lorenzo Fertito was there, he would do these discretionary bonuses

Speaker 28 where they would just give you money. He had an idea of what he wanted the champion to make, and he would make sure you got it.
So when I fought John Jones, my contract was $85,000.

Speaker 28 I lost the first time. On Monday, Dana called me and goes, you did a great job.
We're going to send you a check for a million dollars. What? Swear to God.
$85,000, and then you got.

Speaker 28 He gave me a million million dollars. They gave me a million dollars.
A check for the first time ever made that, obviously, as a wrestler. It was the first time I'd ever made seven figures.

Speaker 28 They called me and said, you did a great job, there you go. Then I fought again

Speaker 28 a few months later and I had got a new contract and it might have been $300,000 and then we sold a few hundred thousand pay-per-views and

Speaker 28 they called me and said, hey, we're going to give you X amount of dollars to get you back to a million dollars. Wow.
They would do that, man. They were like,

Speaker 28 because that's what people don't understand. Like, I know they talk, well, this guy, these guys are underpaid, but it's like,

Speaker 28 when you become a champion and then you're benefiting the business,

Speaker 28 they take care of you.

Speaker 28 But even

Speaker 28 the lowest boxers make are so low, bro. Yeah.
Like the lowest.

Speaker 28 They make it seem like everybody making Floyd May with the money.

Speaker 33 They're not. And they're not.

Speaker 28 They are not all making that money, bro. They're making $1,000.

Speaker 28 Right. I mean, that may look,

Speaker 28 but like you said.

Speaker 28 But the good guys will make good money yeah what does a guy make that so tank and all them dudes are getting paid right now they're in the millions yeah but they're they're the equivalent of the iliad to porias right and the israel adesanias yes they're they're those guys right but as you go down

Speaker 28 as you go down the card and you go down the pay scale yeah i bet it's all pretty equivalent or very equal

Speaker 28 so yeah people talk like all boxers make money they don't

Speaker 28 You work for the company now and the commentary, but how is it negotiating with Dana as a fighter?

Speaker 28 Did you negotiate with managers? I have managers. You have managers.
I have managers, but

Speaker 28 I was always really good about that.

Speaker 28 I would stand on what I believed. You know, one time I got,

Speaker 33 he was like, that didn't happen.

Speaker 28 I was like, but it did, boss. I was like, of course it did, boss.
I said,

Speaker 28 we were negotiating my contract when I first came over and I wanted like a certain amount of money. Didn't want to do it.
Dana was like kind of throwing a fit. Lorenzo goes, it's fine.

Speaker 28 We'll figure it out. And by the time I got to the airport, it was figured out.
Right. Right.
And he was like, that didn't happen. I was like, it did.

Speaker 28 I was like, it's not a big deal because I understand you have to protect your business. Right.
And I have to protect myself as a business because I have a small window to happen.

Speaker 28 But then when I was retiring, right,

Speaker 28 Hunter Campbell, who now does a lot of the stuff with the guys, he calls my manager and he goes, so guys, what do you think?

Speaker 28 Same as he made as champ plus pay-per-view? Like, yeah.

Speaker 28 Even though I wasn't a champ, they still gave me the same pay I made as the champion and the pay-per-view.

Speaker 28 So it's like, I have nothing negative to say because I've had all great experience. You've had great experience with it.
The worst experience I had was that. Right.

Speaker 28 When he said, I don't want to give you that. And I was like, well, okay, then I'll just fight.
And then I won't have a contract.

Speaker 28 And then we can negotiate after that. And they're like, uh-uh, we ain't doing that.

Speaker 28 We ain't going to let you get to Francis.

Speaker 28 We ain't letting you get to undefeated, heavyweight or light heavyweight with no contract where other people can start going, hey, we want you. Right.
Right?

Speaker 28 So then eventually I just re-signed with the company. If Dana were to ever step down, would you run the UFC? That would be a dream job for anybody.
But of course, I would love to do something.

Speaker 28 If they ever trusted me with that, I would do the best job I ever could do. Because

Speaker 28 it's one of the greatest organizations in the world. It's one of the biggest sports organizations in the world.
And they've done such a great job of building it that

Speaker 28 the job itself is just

Speaker 28 don't fuck it up. Don't mess it up.
Don't mess it up. Right.
Because Dana does, what he does is he's so passionate about it.

Speaker 33 Yeah, he is.

Speaker 28 That I can't imagine a UFC without him. But if not,

Speaker 28 but Dana's standing on business now. He's standing on business.

Speaker 28 You can be his best friend. He's going to get you.

Speaker 28 He's going to walk you out the door and say, hey, man, give me a little. Give me a little look.

Speaker 28 Hit that a little bit. I'm running out.
You can give me a little small pour right there. Yeah, hit me up.
That's good.

Speaker 28 Let me get that. That's pretty good, man.

Speaker 28 It's great. I'm taking that bottle.
You can take it. That's coming with me.
No, but we'll get your address. We'll send you and send them to your dad.

Speaker 28 My pops passed away, but. Oh, my bad.
I'm sorry to hear that. It's okay.
But we'll make sure you take that. Yeah, you take it.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I will drink it in his honor. I'm going to do it exactly like him.
My pops is show home. My pops had them hard days, man.
Really? My pops was working the hard day.

Speaker 28 Well, if you say Louisiana, he grew up hard. Grew hard and working outside.
My dad used to show up, sit in that truck for two hours because he knew hard they at work got to come deal with us.

Speaker 28 Yeah, well,

Speaker 28 yeah, he probably had to help something drained to come in the house. Yes, he did.
Yes, he did.

Speaker 28 Joe Rogan. Now, I didn't know a whole lot about Joe Rogan.
I just knew him as the guy that Fear Factor. So I didn't know that.
He became Joe Rogan. Yeah.

Speaker 28 Because that's what I mean, because I love Fear Factor. And then

Speaker 28 they just got too ridiculous with it. I mean, I was like, I can't do this no more.

Speaker 28 I mean, it was really good. The first couple of seasons was really, really good.
And to see what he's turned into as a podcaster, but in the MMA and UFC,

Speaker 28 he's your Howard Koselle. Yes, yes, he's he's he's very good.
He's, I mean, he is very, very good. I've never met a person that actually remembers more than Rogan.

Speaker 28 We go to dinner after the fights, yeah, and uh,

Speaker 28 he'll be talking about events at UFC 15. And I'm like, UFC 15,

Speaker 28 was that in 2004? Bro,

Speaker 28 we had 300. Now, you're talking about 15.

Speaker 28 He's like, I'm telling you like this. But his memory to recall all these things, I've never seen anything like it.
Right. But yeah,

Speaker 28 and

Speaker 28 Shannon, it says something when you do a job just for the love of doing the job when you don't have to do it. Right.
Joe doesn't have to do UFC 15. No, he don't.

Speaker 28 With the Spotify thing that he has going on and everything. And Dana said that when he first started doing it, he did it for free.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 He called a fight for free.

Speaker 28 And, you know, then they worked it out something later. But to just because he loved the sport so much, and you know, he fights and obviously, you know, he, you know, he works at it.
And, yeah.

Speaker 28 But he does an unbelievable job. Gay's tremendous, man.
I think he does a great job.

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Speaker 28 Job of calling the fights, and

Speaker 28 I think that he

Speaker 28 you could tell his passion for it. Yes.
And everything. I mean, you guys do so, you guys do.
Like I mean, hours and hours of TV a week. You got to love this too.
You do. Or you can't do it.

Speaker 28 You can't do it. Yeah, and you you can feel it.
I could see it in you too. I've watched you from afar.
Yeah. And I've admired how well you've done and how

Speaker 28 you've really broke through the glass ceiling. Because

Speaker 28 there was an idea of who you were supposed to be at Fox. Yeah.
And then eventually you said, this idea is not, it doesn't work for me. Right.
And you became bigger than that idea.

Speaker 28 And now it's like, so I'm so happy. I don't really know you well enough to say I'm proud of you.
I appreciate it.

Speaker 28 But I'm happy for what you've done and what you've accomplished because you deserve it, man. Hard work deserves to get credit for it.
And I've watched it. I appreciate that.
Yeah. Let me ask you this.

Speaker 28 What have you most learned about money? Because growing up, how you grew up,

Speaker 28 you know, living off $1,500 a month and you got a $1,200 rent and then basically I got to eat for the next 29 days, I got to live off 150 bucks. Now that you have, you make decent money.
Yep.

Speaker 28 What have you learned about it? Money's hard to keep. Money's very hard to keep.
That's what people don't understand. Money's hard to keep.

Speaker 28 You pay a lot, pay a lot of taxes, you pay a lot of other things it just gives you an opportunity i feel like money gives you the ability one you're gonna be exactly who you ever wanted to be yes so if a person's ugly because they have money they always were ugly right they just didn't have the ability to be ugly um you're gonna be exactly who you want to be and you have access to more things that you have and i also learned that because you have the ability to pay for stuff most things are free yes isn't that the craziest thing

Speaker 28 well you have the most money they get the most stuff for free when you are living off that 1500 you want to go buy you want something you got to pay for it but when you have the money that you have and you can pay for it everybody's like could you please just take this and i just want to see you have it hold it shannon could you just hold it right and you're like

Speaker 28 okay and most times you're like i'd rather pay for it instead of holding for you

Speaker 28 it's like it's just it's just that but also just that it gives you a free it's it's it's freedom it really is just freedom like

Speaker 28 It's a freedom to do things and take care of the people that you love more than anything. i bought my mom a house wow that was one of my greatest accomplishments yes to have her

Speaker 28 get a big house right and then my mom was a house cleaner whenever i was growing up so she would take us to these people's houses and while she worked uh the people were beautiful one family i still remember to this day called the lowe family in louisiana lafayette She'd go Monday and Wednesday there.

Speaker 28 They gave us a car. They gave us like a brand new car.
Just this wonderful family of people.

Speaker 28 i had i made sure she had house cleaners when she was older wow so instead of going to clean people's houses like those are the things that i'm so proud of in my life and my career that you're able to do for your mom to do for your mom i mean you know that you do

Speaker 28 absolutely it's like there are people in your life that mean more than anything and that's uh

Speaker 28 you take care of them

Speaker 28 finding a mate Obviously, wrestling, you know, ain't it like they come to loot, like they beating down your door. Oh, yeah,

Speaker 28 I want to wrestle. you.
Because it's not like, you know, you're not on television. It's a hard job.
It's a grimy job. You're moody some days or better than others.

Speaker 28 When you found a wife, how did you know? I've had multiple. Oh, so yeah, you can't really.
I'm not the best in love.

Speaker 28 You know what?

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 someone was telling me this the other day. They said, Shannon, the best and worst decision, when you made the best decision, did you know it was the best decision at the time? No.
No.

Speaker 28 When you made the worst decision, did you know it was the worst decision at the time? No. No.
You just live with the decisions you make. That's all you can really do.
But you,

Speaker 28 part of being great is being selfish. You got to be.
And when you're so selfish, it's hard for relationships to work. Absolutely.

Speaker 28 And I think that is like probably the thing that athletes need to worry about the most. Because.
Got to find somebody that understands that. Yes.
And not many people do. They don't.
It's really hard.

Speaker 28 Everybody say they can be. Oh, I understand.
Everybody can be second until they actually have to be second. Until also, until

Speaker 28 everybody can be second when they don't have

Speaker 28 the moment, there's a comfortability to life.

Speaker 28 It's like, wait a minute, everything that we hoped would happen has now happened.

Speaker 28 Now worry about, but it's not done yet. The job's never done.
No, I feel like for high thinkers like you and myself

Speaker 53 to just retire,

Speaker 28 could you imagine that as like

Speaker 28 You die.

Speaker 33 A part of you would die. Yes.

Speaker 28 And so for me, it's like, I need to be chasing career. I need to be chasing.
I got to work.

Speaker 28 I'm a worker. Got to work.
It's what I was put on this earth to do. But that can be seen as selfish.
It is. Yeah.
And, but that's the,

Speaker 28 that's the only way you can become great. It's the only way.

Speaker 28 And greatness is not a sometime thing. It's an all-the-time thing.
It's an all-the-time thing. You don't get to be great just when you want to be great in front of people.

Speaker 28 You got to be willing to do that work behind closed doors.

Speaker 28 Yeah. But you don't ever know anything.

Speaker 28 Your biological father was shot and killed by his second wife's

Speaker 28 father in self-defense. Dude.
You remember that?

Speaker 28 Oh,

Speaker 28 yeah.

Speaker 28 I remember

Speaker 28 watching Thanksgiving Day.

Speaker 28 of 1986.

Speaker 28 We're at my aunt's house, Marjorie. We're all sitting down.
We ate. We're all watching the color purple.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 my mom getting a call and she goes crazy. It was hysterical.

Speaker 28 I was a seven-year-old kid. I had no idea what was going on.

Speaker 28 Then they told her, your dad's just been killed.

Speaker 28 Joseph has just been killed. Your ex has been killed.
She goes crazy. She has to sit down now and tell me that.

Speaker 33 My older brother is 12 years older than me.

Speaker 28 Imagine a 19-year-old kid learning that his father's been killed.

Speaker 28 I'm at seven just

Speaker 28 crying because I don't have the greatest memories.

Speaker 28 I don't have the memories of my dad. Like the night, like your brother does.
Like my brother does. But I also don't have like, Shannon, I can retain one real vivid memory of my father.
Okay.

Speaker 28 And that was we were at a truck stop because he drove trucks. Okay.
That's it. That's the only real vivid memory I have of my father.

Speaker 28 But

Speaker 28 my dad, Percy,

Speaker 28 had already moved into my life when I was three. So I'm four years into that relationship with my mother.

Speaker 28 And it was just sad, man. I remember going to that funeral and

Speaker 28 I see my dad in that casket. He's got two families, right? Because

Speaker 28 my mom is not with him anymore. They have kids.
Her reaction told me that she still loved your dad. I don't think they ever fall out of love.

Speaker 28 It's like something that they don't really let go of, especially that first one.

Speaker 28 But my mom's sitting there with my dad, and let me tell you,

Speaker 28 I knew my mom still loved my dad. One time, I don't know if my dad, I don't quite understand if my dad was cheating.
I don't know what it was, Shannon. But my mom took the car at a four-way stop.

Speaker 28 The other woman was driving the other car.

Speaker 28 She hit her.

Speaker 28 What? She hit her.

Speaker 28 My mom was an angel. You better hold.

Speaker 28 Do you say

Speaker 28 She can't. You play a bumper cars and real cars, though.
Top said, why'd you hit her? She goes, that's my car, too.

Speaker 28 This my car. That's my car.
I want to record my record. I said, oh, my God.

Speaker 28 But it was that little red light. It was a bump.
Yeah,

Speaker 28 it wasn't like a hard hit, but she like, she hit her.

Speaker 28 But yes, but yes, so yes, she must have still loved my dad. But yeah,

Speaker 28 it was awful. You mentioned that your stepfather intervene came in your life at a very young age yes what did you learn from him everything

Speaker 28 everything

Speaker 28 percy benoit was man he was the best he was the best he uh

Speaker 28 he worked so hard he made decisions him and my mother that made me appreciate them more than i i don't know if i ever could appreciate anyone in my life when we were like

Speaker 28 seven eight years old at that time when my dad got past,

Speaker 28 they decided not to take government assistance anymore. We want to make it on our own.
We were struggling, but they did. They took no help.
They just made it on their own.

Speaker 28 Then they bought their first house together. And then I watched that man

Speaker 28 get up in the morning and he would go and work for the city of Lafayette. It was hot, man.
It was 95, 100 degrees, 100 degree humidity. You know what Louisiana is like.

Speaker 28 He would take the lime and make the baseball fields. He would cut cut the fields and the grass.
And he would come home at 5:30, eat real quick,

Speaker 28 and he would get a bath because we didn't have a shower.

Speaker 28 Jump in his truck and go to a pizza parlor and wash dishes to make an extra 60 bucks every time he did that. And he did that constantly.

Speaker 28 And then when I got old enough, I realized more what he was doing.

Speaker 28 When the days that he wasn't going back to there,

Speaker 28 he was going to the cemetery and he was cutting it. and he was weed eating next to the graves to make more money.
So, when I got old enough, he started taking me with him.

Speaker 28 And he's like, You get $35 a month. So, every time you do this, I guess I made eight or ten dollars, right? Because it would take us a little bit of time.
I learned to work. He taught me to work.

Speaker 28 And I think by him teaching me to work,

Speaker 28 it has

Speaker 28 defined my life. It's defined my life.

Speaker 28 I don't,

Speaker 28 I was the captain of the Olympic wrestling team.

Speaker 28 And it's because I worked hard.

Speaker 53 They saw me.

Speaker 28 They saw me and said, I want this guy to lead our team. Is that the type of father you are? You try to be what Percy wants you to your own kids.
That's what I try to be for my kids.

Speaker 28 I try to be present and show them I'm working, man. I'm making a life for you guys that can be.

Speaker 28 And I hope that you see and appreciate. what I'm doing.

Speaker 28 Because while

Speaker 28 I don't see the struggle, they don't see the struggle that I saw, they do see that their dad is willing to just.

Speaker 28 I took my daughters to a photo shoot I did for Monster Energy the other day, and they were like, Dad, you work hard.

Speaker 28 I was like, I wanted to give you, just kind of see what dad does when he gets up at 5 a.m. and he's back home by 6 to make sure you guys have dinner.

Speaker 28 Right? It's like those types of things,

Speaker 28 they mean the world to me. My dad was the best.

Speaker 28 You lost your daughter. I did, man.
Throughout the 18-wheel 18-wheel accident. Yeah,

Speaker 28 that was the worst. That was the worst.
I've had a lot of things happen in my life that

Speaker 28 I try not to let define me. Like,

Speaker 28 I try not to let certain things define me, like the bad.

Speaker 28 But,

Speaker 28 yeah, that was the worst.

Speaker 28 I was 23 years old. I had a daughter named Caden Emery.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 we were in college or just finishing college. So

Speaker 28 her mom was from Killeen, Texas. Okay.
And they were driving home to see her parents.

Speaker 28 But her car didn't have air conditioning.

Speaker 28 And she was like, I'm going to put my kid in the car with my friend because they have a newer car.

Speaker 28 And he got rear ended by an AT wheeler. That was the worst, man.

Speaker 28 If she was with her mom,

Speaker 28 she would have been fine. But

Speaker 28 we make these decisions at times that we think are the right decision, and

Speaker 28 it has killed her mom's life.

Speaker 28 You know what, DC? I was about to ask you. I bet she beat herself up.

Speaker 28 I should have just rolled the window down. She should have been with me.
Yep.

Speaker 28 Her mom's life is.

Speaker 28 It hadn't been the same, has it? No.

Speaker 28 That girl was on a track team at Oklahoma State. I went to school, and

Speaker 28 she had such a big future, and now it's like she's at home taking care of her mother.

Speaker 28 That losing that kid, losing our kids, like, it killed her. I was able to,

Speaker 28 I was able to spin it and say that every time I wrestle, every time I fight, I have an angel sitting on the cage to watch over me.

Speaker 28 Her mom was never able to do that. It's sad, man.

Speaker 28 That was the worst thing that's ever happened to me. Because as parents, we expect our kids to bury us.
Yes. We don't expect to bury a child.
Not that young.

Speaker 28 Not that young, man. She's three and a half months old.
So, like, to put her in a casket,

Speaker 28 yeah, that shit sucks.

Speaker 28 Even thinking, just thinking about it, like, it sucks. Has it changed the relationship that you had with subsequent kids that you hold them tighter?

Speaker 28 That you, like, you realize how just how fragile life is. Yeah.
That tomorrow is not promised. Even three hours from right now isn't promised.
No, I know. Yeah, it's, it's, uh,

Speaker 28 it is, it's bad to the point that, Shannon, at times you got to like,

Speaker 28 you have to, I have to like,

Speaker 28 I have to, like,

Speaker 28 consciously try not to be as much of a like a helicopter parent.

Speaker 28 I'm trying to, like,

Speaker 28 because I know how important it is for them to experience things,

Speaker 28 but

Speaker 28 it is scary. Like my son is getting older now.

Speaker 28 I just started, I let him ride his bike to the barbershop now to get a haircut. That was something I could have never done like never

Speaker 28 you talk about a bicycle or a motorbike

Speaker 28 one of those electric electric bike okay electric okay okay so I let him but I always but I make him put his location on the moment he leaves the house right location on so

Speaker 28 I'm trying dude but yeah it's hard it really has uh

Speaker 28 it really has changed me in terms of parenting You try, you try. It's important.
Like,

Speaker 28 I did a lot growing up. I had a lot of freedom.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 it gave me a little bit of street smarts and ability to adjust and make my way around life.

Speaker 28 I mean, people probably wouldn't know this about you, but you've had a, I mean, you've had a lot of death in your family. Your grandmother, your cousin, you lost a child at a very young age.

Speaker 28 People ask me because they know how close I am with my grandmother. They would ask, Shannon, how did you get over?

Speaker 28 I say, you never get over it. No.
You just get better at dealing with it. Yeah.

Speaker 28 How have you been able to get better at dealing with loss?

Speaker 28 Well, at 20, when you lose a kid at that age, right? Like,

Speaker 28 you feel like nothing ever is going to feel worse.

Speaker 28 But

Speaker 28 I've managed to learn how to take those things.

Speaker 28 and try to make them push me forward.

Speaker 28 So

Speaker 28 with my daughter, like I had never made a United States team. After my daughter passed, I made six in a row.
Wow. Swear to God.
My daughter passed in June or in May of

Speaker 28 May of 20

Speaker 28 that you didn't know. Yes.
And

Speaker 28 by August, I wrestled in the World Championships for the first time, then the Olympic Games, and all the way through.

Speaker 28 My mom,

Speaker 28 when she passed a couple years ago, obviously I don't do anything competitive anymore. But in terms of my media career, it's just gotten bigger.

Speaker 33 Yep.

Speaker 28 Because I work harder now, because I know that even though I don't have to provide for her in the way that I did before, I still need to work because she was part of that work.

Speaker 28 I want to do more TV because she watched everything. Right.
So even though she's not there watching now, like I know she watched it all. So I try to

Speaker 28 spin it. It's the only way.
Because otherwise it cripples you. It does.
It really does cripple you.

Speaker 28 Like you and like, I've heard stories about you and your grandmother and it's like, and how special a lady she was to you.

Speaker 28 But yeah, you don't ever get over losing somebody you love that much. You can't.

Speaker 28 This cutting weight thing, you said that in Thanksgiving,

Speaker 28 you weighed 257. Yeah.
And basically 45, 50 days, you were down to 204. Yep.
Obviously, that's very taxing on the body. Yes, it is.
Very taxing to cut that kind of water weight because

Speaker 28 that's not all just, you know, good weight. Yeah.
And you went into into renal failure at one time, right? I did at the Olympic Games. Yeah, but I wasn't that big at the time.

Speaker 28 I was just, in wrestling,

Speaker 28 I didn't have the access or the resources.

Speaker 28 I couldn't have done that without my chef. Right.
I had like Tyler Minton

Speaker 28 was working for me at the time. He,

Speaker 28 every meal.

Speaker 28 Every meal, every drink, he would feed me, then he would write it down.

Speaker 28 He would feed me, then he would write it down. I got to drink a kombucha every day.
That was it. Outside of water, that's all I had.
Right. And some sort of like electrolytes,

Speaker 28 stuff to make sure I wasn't cramping

Speaker 28 when I went to the cage to train. But outside of like that, I had water and every meal here you go.
And at the right times. When I was wrestling,

Speaker 28 I would eat until Wednesday, and then I just would not eat until I weighed in on Friday or Saturday. I would go three days without anything.
Marab DeWallace really still does that.

Speaker 28 The champion 135 yesterday, he just will not eat.

Speaker 28 You don't have to do it that way anymore. You don't.
He's got money. But yeah, I would,

Speaker 28 my kidneys quit on me at the Olympic Games. Ended up in the hospital.
That wasn't a dime, man. Because they don't let you take diuretics, does it?

Speaker 28 You can't take diuretics, can't take IVs, can't do nothing. If I could have taken IV after weigh-ins, I'd have been fine.

Speaker 28 It was right before the Olympic Games that they did away with IVs. I didn't want to cheat.

Speaker 28 I didn't want to cheat. My body, dude, that was a.

Speaker 28 What's the most weight you've had to cut?

Speaker 28 So

Speaker 28 by design,

Speaker 28 if I was fighting on Saturday,

Speaker 28 when I showed up to Vegas on Tuesday, I probably was like 220.

Speaker 28 If it was good.

Speaker 28 but I remember one time I

Speaker 28 in New York against Rumble and Buffalo, I was like 231 on Sunday.

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Speaker 28 Before the fight on Saturday the next

Speaker 28 2:31. And you got to get out of 205? Yeah.

Speaker 33 But I was like,

Speaker 28 I was heavy, so I'd go run, lose like five pounds. You lose a lot of weight, Shannon.
Yeah. And you drink a lot of water.
Right. Those, these nutritionists are so good at manipulating weight now.

Speaker 28 Yeah. You have no idea.
So like

Speaker 28 if I'm like 217, 218, 220, like 220. Oh, you and Sweet Spot.
You and your wheel.

Speaker 28 Because now I've got that with two gallons of water in a day. Right.
Right? That's 16 pounds at minimum. So by the time I get in that sauna, I'm like,

Speaker 28 it all comes off.

Speaker 28 But it's only for a short period of time. Right.
Like, I'm at 204 and a half for maybe an hour.

Speaker 28 When you re hydrate that. Yeah.

Speaker 28 What are you going back up to? You're going to rebound to what? 220? 224? When John Jones, when I fought John Jones and I was in peak physical condition,

Speaker 28 there was nothing I could do to get over 222.

Speaker 28 Like, I mean, literally trained there for the last four weeks of camp because I was so locked in. Right.
When I fought Rumble Johnson, I weighed 231 on Saturday night when I fought him the next day.

Speaker 28 Wow. I weighed 205.

Speaker 28 Yeah, I gained 26 pounds overnight.

Speaker 28 That's too much. I felt so sluggish and horrible.

Speaker 28 But yeah, I've cut a lot of weight.

Speaker 28 You lose like 10 pounds an hour, though, when you do those weight cuts. Wow.

Speaker 28 Do you feel your height? I mean, because like

Speaker 28 you look, but probably a tick under six foot tall. I'm five, I've gotten shorter.
I'm like five, ten

Speaker 28 on a good day. Five, ten and a half.
I've shrunk, Janet. Have you shrunk at all? Have you gotten shorter? Yeah, I think so, too.
I think as we get older,

Speaker 28 we shrink it. I believe I have.

Speaker 28 But when you, when you, you use, like, for,

Speaker 28 I would think somebody your size, your height would be ideal, is ideal for wrestling. Oh, for wrestling.
Because you, you, because you got a short torso but you got long legs compact yeah

Speaker 28 and i'm good at getting close once i get once i get get if i get

Speaker 28 they say i'm sticky right if i get close to you i'm sticking to you like you stuck in a fly trap right like seriously it's like so you're trying to close the distance oh if i got close you're in trouble if i can grab you by the head i'm punching you up with cuts if i can grab your leg then you're really in trouble because i had a thousand ways to finish a takedown The moment I got your leg, you're in a lot of trouble.

Speaker 28 Yeah.

Speaker 33 Because I'm either going to move here, left, right, up, down.

Speaker 28 It's all subtleties. It's the same thing.

Speaker 28 So, like, Shannon,

Speaker 28 I could actually try to guard you right now, and I could not.

Speaker 28 Because even if you might not be able to run as fast as you did, you're going to give me something in the shoulders or something in the eyes that's going to get some separation. Correct.

Speaker 28 That's mere wrestling. I'm just like, here, here, here, here.

Speaker 28 And they get lost. Do you like...

Speaker 28 It's funny, like, when you grab somebody here, because I'm watching these boxes and you watch them close up, he'll throw a punch and he put his hand up because he know what's coming.

Speaker 28 And he'll do this and he'll throw that. Oh, he'll do this and he'll do that.
So you know, like, if I got this,

Speaker 28 I know what he's going to do. Absolutely.

Speaker 28 I'll manipulate you to do what I want you to do. Wow.
Yeah, I'll manipulate you. That's why, like, my takedown offense, I think I might have landed 50% of my takedown, 40%.
Wow.

Speaker 28 They're like, dude, he only landed 40%.

Speaker 28 Like, yeah, but the first few aren't designed to take you down. Right.
They're to set you you up for number four, five, and six. When I really want to get you down.
When I really want to get you down.

Speaker 28 Then you get up in the air, I flip you, or I trip you. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's all setups.
You mentioned boxing was your first love, though. Yep, I did.
Because it's all I knew.

Speaker 28 It's what we knew. Like, they would watch.
My uncles all watched the Wild War the Sports every weekend. And we'd watch like George Foreman clips and Muhammad Ali clips and Mike Tyson.

Speaker 28 So it's like, we're watching this greatness and it looks like us. Right.
That is where the difference was. You watch that greatness and it's like, wow, this dude looks like he could be where I'm from.

Speaker 28 And he's making, he's the man. Right.
He's a superstar. That's what drew me into boxing.
Because every story was about a kid from a tough neighborhood. Yes.
He was from Michigan.

Speaker 33 He was from Louisville, Kentucky.

Speaker 28 He was from like just all these places.

Speaker 28 The main streets. Yeah.
The main streets. Like, wait a minute, this looks very familiar.

Speaker 28 And look at him today. Right.
So, yeah,

Speaker 28 it just drew me in. Like.

Speaker 28 Bud and Canelo.

Speaker 28 That's a tough fight. I saw Bud recently.

Speaker 33 He's big.

Speaker 28 Bud's bigger than you think. He's stronger than you think.
He's strong, too. Yo, Bud's son is ridiculous.
We had WrestleMania right up the street. He got a belt.

Speaker 28 He walked past me and he was looking at me the whole time.

Speaker 28 He looked at me and said, you the wrestler. I knocked you out on UFC.
I was like, boy, you crazy. When he crazy, Bud told me he had to whip him.
Bud said he went to Sean,

Speaker 28 What's his name? Sean Crawford? Sean Taylor? Sean. Sean.
Sean Porter. Sean Porter.

Speaker 28 Bud said that same one to Sean Porter said. My dad knocked you out.

Speaker 28 Sean Porter had to call him and be like, well, yeah, son's crazy. But I had to spank you.

Speaker 28 He crazy. But yes, he's bigger.
It's a big-time fight. Canelo better have his game ready.
Yeah. Because if not, he's going to get beat by Bud.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 Bud, I mean, like I said, Bud, I mean, Bud walks, Bud fought at last fought at you know junior middleweight at 154 but bud walks around at like 180. He's big man and he's tall too.
Yeah.

Speaker 28 He's very tall. He looked big I saw him inside the

Speaker 28 the apex training. Yep.
He looked big. You went and watched him train too? I know we did a we did an interview with him and he I say he's he's stronger than you think.
He's stronger than you can tell.

Speaker 28 Yeah, he's stronger than you think. And he looks his hands full.
He does. You were bullied as a kid.
Is that why you got into wrestling and fighting? It was because you were bullied.

Speaker 28 You're like, I ain't taking this ish no. So I was bullied bad, Shannon.
Okay. Like this guy used to beat me up all the time.
He would beat me up for no reason. It was like no reason to fight me.

Speaker 28 He would just pick off me. If they could have three other kids fight, he would show up to watch the fight.
Then once that fight was over, he's like, I might as well give me one to they get it, though.

Speaker 28 I was scared too. I was so scared of him.
And then I learned to wrestle. Once I got him, it was over, man.

Speaker 28 Once I got him once, it was over. But yeah, yeah, it gave me self-defense.
I think wrestling is so important for kids because then you learn to to defend yourself. And also, it gives you a confidence.

Speaker 28 I got this academy

Speaker 28 in Gilroy, the Daniel Corner Wrestling Academy. Kids walk in and they're hunched over, looking like scared.
Right. Because the ones that have been doing it for a while have this intensity about them.

Speaker 28 They're strong and they're confident.

Speaker 28 Six months later, they're like walking in with some. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 28 This is what I need. That's what wrestling gives you.
I think it's the best. Right.
Have you ever been arrested for street fighting? One time. I got arrested in college college when I was a freshman.

Speaker 28 I punched a guy, man. What do you do? So I went to a junior college in Kansas.

Speaker 28 And

Speaker 28 one of the biggest mistakes that young black men make when they go to different places is they almost try to recreate themselves.

Speaker 28 You can be a great kid, but you will portray yourself as a gangster or a bad guy. Right.

Speaker 28 Because you want people to not only respect you, you want to make sure you fit in, and they kind of fear you a little bit.

Speaker 28 It's like very important. So I did that, and I'm at this party.
And we go to this party, and the guy comes out. It's his house, and he starts talking.

Speaker 28 And he said something that I viewed as disrespectful when he came charging towards me. So I punched him, bro.

Speaker 28 He, he, he, I don't know if his jaw was like super like loose because

Speaker 28 he went down and his jaw broke really bad.

Speaker 33 So blood's like everywhere.

Speaker 28 We run off, me and all my wrestler friends. The cops come to get us.

Speaker 28 We're in Kansas. I was like, well, man, we saw, I saw this Mexican dude do it and run away.
They said, nah, man, it was you.

Speaker 28 It was you, Eric.

Speaker 28 You tried to put it off on somebody. I tried to put it on a Mexican dude, man.
I was like, yeah, they ain't got many brown people out here. They ain't got many brown people out here.

Speaker 28 They said, nah, it was you. They put me in jail.

Speaker 28 I was crying, dude. Then they put me in jail on a Friday night, Shannon.
And in those little towns. Oh, you don't get dick till Monday.

Speaker 28 And then once Monday come, they got 72 hours to see. Yeah.
And they kept me in jail till Wednesday. Damn.
I was crying.

Speaker 28 My mom actually to pay them to pay to get me out she had to take like put it up against her house wow to get me out of jail she put her house on the line as a as counter for the

Speaker 28 for the bail for the bail yep and then I was like this woman won't do anything for me I'm the one that messed up right I ran her phone bill up calling her every day thousands of thousands of dollars they ain't had nothing to pay that but she answered it every time that's why she was the best to me everybody like oh you love your mama more than you love anybody in the world i was like you saw what she did for me

Speaker 28 she she said she was the best you tried some everything you sold drugs as a kid i you tried to shannon i was a bad drug dealer what's a what's all shannon you don't want to hear this story

Speaker 28 shannon we made horrible we made fake drugs one time oh

Speaker 28 shannon we went so when you cut grass and just put it This was when I was a kid. No, no, no.
No.

Speaker 28 Back when I was growing up, it wasn't weed, it was crack.

Speaker 28 I tried to sell crack, Shannon. I was broke, I needed $20,

Speaker 28 bro. You don't know how to cook.
I don't know how to cook. I don't know, I don't know nothing about it.
But listen, what we did, though, we took some wax

Speaker 28 and put orangel on it because I guess that it must numb the face or something. One of my friends told me that one.

Speaker 33 He was, yeah, so I gave it to the drug.

Speaker 28 I gave it to the dude. He gave me the money.
He

Speaker 28 thought,

Speaker 33 he looked up.

Speaker 28 I took off running.

Speaker 28 I took off.

Speaker 28 Man, he called me, man. He called 20 back.
I gave my air you go, man. You got me.
That bad, Daddy.

Speaker 28 You done ate the crack now.

Speaker 28 You out of this ball. That was the last time.
That was the last time I ever tried some stupid shit like that. I was like, man, this is sports for me.
It was bad.

Speaker 28 Could a boxer ever be the MMA fighter in a street fight? No. No.

Speaker 28 They would get taken down.

Speaker 28 It would happen too fast. I saw James Toney fight Randy Couture.

Speaker 28 James Toney was one of the slickest, best boxers of all time. He tapped without actually tapping Randy.
He just waved at the ref, like, save me. Right.
That's what happens when boxers fight.

Speaker 28 The baddest man on the planet is a mixed martial arts fighter.

Speaker 28 Nothing else. In terms of hand-to-hand combat.
Right.

Speaker 28 Yeah, the baddest man on the planet is the UFC heavyweight champion. Every time.

Speaker 28 Unless Francis Nganu is out there fighting for someone else.

Speaker 28 Then there's a chance that he's the baddest man on the planet. There's a chance it might be somebody else.
He might beat whoever we have because he's that good.

Speaker 28 But if not, it's either Tom Aspinall, Francis Nganu, and John Jones. Right now, those are the baddest men on the planet.
Nobody else.

Speaker 28 We come back and have a conversation five years, 10 years from now. Yep.

Speaker 28 What's DC doing?

Speaker 28 Probably the same thing. Probably doing the same thing.
Working UFC fights. I love my job.
I love calling fights. I think I have the best job in the world.
Yep.

Speaker 28 Podcasting, doing television. Same.
Because I don't think that right now,

Speaker 28 I don't think that right now

Speaker 28 I'm willing to stop. Like we said earlier, you're a worker, I'm a worker.
I just might be living in the town wherever my son or my daughter goes to college. I just can't let it go.

Speaker 28 I told my daughter the other day, if you, I said, pick a school close and I'll pay everything.

Speaker 28 She wants to get far away. She wants to.

Speaker 28 to do that. I'm in.
You dig into colleges yet? She goes, What? No.

Speaker 28 She goes, Dad, I'm 13. I go, Could you go to Cal? Like, stay close.
I go, I'll pay your rent. I'll give you a stipend.
I'll do everything. She was like, no, you don't have to.
You're good.

Speaker 28 You want to get away from my ass.

Speaker 28 Cormier. Cormier.
Yes, you're the man. Is it Cormier or Cormier? Cormier.
Cormier. Cormier.
Yeah. DC.
That was good.

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