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Don Brady said the quarterback position isn't as mentally developed as it was when he entered the league. I don't believe the quarterback position as

mentally developed as it was when I entered entered the league 25 years ago. There was a premium on understanding defenses, on understanding matchups,

on, I'd say, pre-snaps, reads, getting your team in and out of the right play. I felt the way to learn was to play the position over a period of time.

You truly give your team the best chance to win to be a field general. I think you better have a mental advantage on the field.
And I think sometimes there's more important than physical advantage.

Ocho, do you agree with him?

Hey, do me a favor. Uncle you said a whole lot right there that Brady said.
Bring it, break it. Listen, break it down to me

in our language.

He says,

there was a premium on understanding defenses. You had to understand what the defense was trying to do.
So now you go out there and you're looking.

You're not just looking at your guy like, man, this quarters.

Oh, this is covered. This he got help over here.
So you needed to understand a pre-snap. You're looking at the alignment.
You're looking at that triangle.

Okay, I see what y'all trying to do. So he said, you guys need to have a pre-snap.
You need to have an understanding of what's about to happen. Make sure you get your guys.
Okay.

Do not run a play into a safety that you can't block. Okay.
That's a negative play. So you just gave up or down for whatever reason.
Flip it. Right.
I like that. Audible out of it.

But listen, Tom Brady speaking from a standpoint of being number 12. a standpoint of having the having the power and the ability to be able to change plays.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, it's a few other quarterbacks that I can name.

When they came to the line of scrimmage, no matter how much disguising you did, no matter how much bluffing you did based on down and distance, they already know from watching film, they know what the hell you're doing.

They know what the hell you're doing. They know exactly where each play is going to be.
Yes. Snap of the ball.
Even if you wait, even if you wait late.

and wait till he snap the ball and he still sees movement in front of him. Because once they snap, they looking right downfield.

Okay, if you, if you was down in the box and you shoot back out, okay, this is what they he already knew what's coming.

And he knows every play you run, Chad, every offensive play you run, especially when it's a pass play, there's always somebody open. There's always somewhere to go with the ball.

And it's all about being able to process information on what you see in front of you and knowing where to go with it very fast. Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees were the best at it.

They were the best.

Sometimes

you got to look at what those guys put in.

Because a lot of times, guys, see, a lot of times, guys, now there's more important things than football. Football was the most important thing to Tom Brady.

It was the most important thing to Peyton Manning. So there was no life outside of that.
During the season, the most important thing was football. They didn't play video game.

It wasn't no Call of Duty. It wasn't no Madden.
It wasn't no doing all this. They got all the commercials done in the offseason.

So everything that was focused was centered around how can I become the best football player I possibly can. The question you ask yourself, is that what these quarterbacks today doing?

Yeah. And also,

you have to give some of the quarterbacks today also, you have to give them a little grace.

You have to give them a little grace because they're starting the game so young, they don't have the freedom to do some of the things that Tom Brady's mentioning. That takes time to develop.

They even get to that point where you can recognize everything you're seeing and the consciousness trusts you. Peyton Manning was the coach.
Yeah. Brady was the coach.

But they know they put so much time in, though, Ocho. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You're right. You're right.

So listen, quarterbacks right now, they can't come up to the line of scrimmage and see something and be like, you know what? This ain't going to work. We can't run that play.

Sometimes I watch NFL games. Wait a minute.
The defense shifted. The defensive line shifted to the right.
Change it. Right running power or stretch to the right, right into the teeth of the defense.

Right. I think some quarterbacks don't have the freedom to be able to to do that because their offensive coordinators don't trust them just yet because they're young.

No, you got to earn that. The only guy that had that kind of freedom early on was Peyton Manning.
Yeah.

They turned the keys over to Peyton. Brady didn't even have that kind of leeway early in his career.
He earned that trust. Drew earned that trust.
Rogers earned that trust. You have to earn that.

And that doesn't happen overnight. It doesn't.
Patrick Mahomes had to earn Andy's trust in order to be able to be able to

audible in and out of plays, change a play, you know, things of that nature.

It's different now. Oh, Joe, I came in the league.
The quarterbacks called their own plays. It wasn't looking at the wrist.
They called their plays. John Elway called his plays.

Serious? Yes. He called a game.

Damn. Yes.
Wait, no officer coordinator talking in charge.

Hey,

he might say what you like here.

Okay.

Hey, yes, quarterbacks, the old court, the old guard, though, those guys came in the league. Quarterbacks were calling somebody a lot.
Some of the quarterbacks, not all.

Some of the quarterbacks were calling the old play. Yeah, he's like,

Yeah, now you gotta get out of my ear.

Get out of my ear. But

it takes a lot. You have to put a lot of timing in.

And everybody, but like you said, you're talking about Brady running practice.

He's running walkthroughs. He's He's running 707.
He's running, you know, two minutes. He's running no huddle.
Tom is doing those things.

If you want a quarterback to have, you got to let him do it.

You got to let him do it. I got to tell this story.
I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble or not. I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share this.
I don't even care. I don't even care, chat.

I'm going to tell you about why the New England Patriots were so goddamn good, huh?

Everybody in the chat, I know you saw the beginning of Full Metal Jacket with the sergeant going off, cursing, and just a he was, he was on one in the beginning of the movie, Full Metal Jacket.

One day in practice, Bill O'Brien, obviously, the officer coordinator called in the plays. We're in practice and Bill radios in the play in Tom's ear.
I'm in the huddle.

I'm assuming maybe Tom didn't get it. So Tom's sitting there with his head down.

And he does one of these. Give me the play.
Give me the play again.

And Bill must have said it again. He didn't hear it because the thing, the communication must have been off.

And Tom looked back.

Give me the goddamn play.

Bill, I gave you the play already. I said it two

times

without him

get it. What the fuck you want me to do?

Jesus Christ, we in the middle of practice.

We're in the middle of practice. And at that moment, I understood this is why.

This is why. The smallest things.
That period we were doing where that one play, that one play didn't work and it didn't go right. We started the whole fucking period over.
Yeah.

We started the whole period over so we can get all the plays in succession and get it the right way. Yep.
I'm like, what? What?

Yeah. Bill over there.

with his with the whistle on his finger twirling back and forth yeah i'm like man what what are they running over here dog it was unbelievable dog the this there's so many stories i i can share that one some of the other ones it's a little too little too uh graphic

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I'm still ready to go. Haven't had any injuries.
Now give me my damn money, Thurham told the Associated Press.

With such a turnover, it's a reason why only three running backs, Barkley, McCaffrey, and Henry, are averaging $15 million per

this season as compared to 26 wide receivers. It's not even the receiver money.
It's like we're hanging with with the punters and the kickers. You're right.

They're looking at it like, oh Joe,

the best years on the tire of a car is when it's brand new. Yeah.

You drive that car all over the city. You put 50,000 miles on the car.
Them tires ain't the same. Yeah.
That's how they look at running backs, LT. That's how they look at y'all.
They're like, LT,

hold on. LT, we gave you the ball 270 times and you caught 100 passes.
That's 370 touches, LT. And you did that one, two, three.
oh yeah oh no no no no

that's how they think you know but but listen but the the thurman thomas point that's how they think with the tier two and below running backs the tier ones are the ones that are still making the big money not as much as the receivers not as much nowhere near the quarterbacks but the tier ones that could change your whole offense your tier ones to lt's point that can kill that time and let your defense rest for a little bit, especially in garbage time when it's time to end the game.

it's only a few it's only a handful of those that's why it's only a handful make 12 13 14 what and damn near 20 who made

20 guys to thurman's point

where does saquan barkley have to do to go get that money was it with the giants or was it with someone else oh no they where did derrick henry where did derrick henry have to go ocho to get that money was it with the titans or was it with the ravens and remember last year he played on eight million dollar deal he had two years for 16 million oh but They came back.

They came back to him. Yes.

So really, the only guy that's ever gotten money at the running back position, you've got to go back to Zeke.

And Zeke was probably the one that really hurt because he was never the same after he got that money. And

everybody looked at Zeke and they say, hold on. Look at that offensive line he got.
He got. two for show Hall of Famers, a potential Hall of Famer that retired.

The center retired because he's like, I don't want to do it anymore. And Zeke just stepped off a cliff.
Yards per game went down. Yards per carry get down.
Don't remember, he hurt his knee too.

He hurt his knee real bad.

He didn't hurt his knee every year, Ocho.

But see, this is how you solve that. For one, the running backs that are game-changing, the guys that can hit a home run from any spot on the field, that can catch the ball and do everything.

They're going to be the ones that have to change the game. And when I say change the game, guys, I'm meaning sign shorter deals.
Strike when the iron is hot. Running backs, two or three year deals.

You know, if, if, because think about it, most running backs, they can perform and perform at a high level early in their career.

Like it doesn't take long for them to, you know, kind of get become a staple in the offense and get going and become one of the top at their positions. It don't take long.

So why can't you come back to the table after two and three years and then sign a a shorter deal, a two-year deal, two-year, let's say two-year 50 million. Oh, you ain't going to hear that, Ocho.

That's two million.

Let me tell you why they're not going to do it, Ocho. I mean, LT, because in order for me to give you a big signing bonus, I need to prorate it over the life of the contract.

So even if I, if you want a two-year deal, let's just say,

LT, you want a two-year deal for $40 million.

And I want to give you, I want to give you, I say I give you $20 million to sign. Well, I only get to prorate that over two years.
So now that's 10.

So let's just say for the sake of argument, I give you 2 million. So I give you 2 million.
That's 12 million. And guess what?

Now that's 28 million. That's 30.
Your next, that next year is 38 million cap here. They're not going to let that happen.
So, and plus, when you're a running back and you had

your first round draft pick,

I got you for three years. Five years.

I got you for five. Now, if I'm nice,

if I'm nice and you on time and you haven't been injured, I'll do the deal after three. But if not, I know I got a fourth year, a fifth year option, and two franchise tags.

So I got you for seven years and I ain't got to do nothing.

That's nasty work. It is after that.
Listen, that's that Jerry Jones work you talking about right now.

The next running back that's going to hit that's going to hit big and there won't be any question about it.

There won't be, we don't really value the running back position because we know what you can get.

One of the few players, one of the few running backs in the nfl that can hit their head off the goal post from anywhere on the field that's brother that's brother jameer gives down in detroit yep oh he he i'm talking about he going he going north of 1718.

yeah oh absolutely

robinson gonna get paid too

yeah yeah okay yeah that's another they gotta go above 20 though guys like in order to reset the market for future guys in their position that everybody ain't gonna get that we know that everybody's not gonna get that but the special ones, they gotta get that.

You kid 20?

I'm surprised that they did this for Saquon because think about it, guys. He got a $50 million quarterback.
You got a $50 million quarterback. You got a $20.

You got

a $30 million receiver, a $28 million receiver.

Yeah. And you got a $20 million running back.
And you got, look at Lane Johnson, what he made. Look at what Myeloto made.
Look at what Dickerson made. They paying.

They just redid a Braun.

You know, you got to see that man child in the middle, Jalen Carter. You got to see him.
You got two guys on the edge that in another year, you're going to have to see one of them.

Listen, Jalen Carter finna reset the whole market. He is at

every position.

Well, I don't know if he's, I don't think you're going to catch Micah, but the number,

CJ,

Chris Jones, Stone Cold Jones for the Kansas campaign city chiefs he's at 31 and a half for dt so he's way over everybody else at the dt position yeah most definitely most you're talking about a guy that's 24 25 but he don't realize how good he can be yeah you know he still don't know how good he can be yeah you know you know why he's not gonna not gonna catch micah or he might not he he gonna he's gonna overlap he gonna leave overleap um chris jones yes simply because howie and Jeffrey always pay early.

They're not gonna wait.

They're not gonna wait. They're gonna pay early.
You're not gonna turn it down.

And plus, Ocho, the sacks. DTs, though.
Like I said, the thing is, what spoiled us was Aaron Donald. Donald, yeah.
D-Tackle's not supposed to get 20 sacks, LT.

They're not supposed to be getting 15 sacks. You stop the run, give us about seven or eight sacks.

We have to

be disruptive. Yeah.
Yeah.

But

I agree.

But really, the only guy you got for the longest time, nobody even pushed Christian McCaffrey's that 15 and Zeke's 15 for years.

It wasn't until Kristen McCaffrey got a new deal from the 49ers that leapfrogged.

And then, because remember,

the Giants didn't want to do anything with Saquon. They made him play on the franchise tag.
And then they ended up letting him go. And when he let him go, he still didn't get past the 15.

It wasn't until 2,000 yards.

It wasn't until offensive player of the year that he got, he broke the $20 million barrier think about it derrick henry he was on an eight million eight to ten million dollar a year contract so he goes for 19 21 and 16 17 touchdowns before they finally put him at the 15.

so somebody going to a in order to break the to to to leap frog saquon Boy, hey, you're going to have to have an LT season, 32 touchdowns, offensive player of the year, MVP.

LT, if you want somebody to get 25 million, they're going to have to be the season because LT had damn 1,900 yards, 30-plus touchdowns.

He caught another 50 passes for another 500 yards, unless you're gonna have a season like LT had. Yeah,

that was the 05 season, right? When y'all came and played us,

no, it was 06.

Yeah, the 06 would have played y'all.

Y'all jumped up on us, like

it was like 21.

Golly, that thing was rocking. I don't know what happened.

We lost, man. Would y'all just go ahead and walk them down?

hey hey hey um

hey um they over there dancing hey we on the sideline clapping at them like okay

they good it's first quarter y'all did good

lt when you look around the league today and there's a lot of running back what running back reminds you of yourself

Man, that's a good one.

I mean, you know, I see traces of myself in different running backs, you know. Like, I think when I think about the jump cut, you know, the balance, the spin and stuff, say Kwan kind of has that

low center of

gravity, being able to bounce from hole to hole and then hit the hole explosiveness. But when I think about like coming out the backfield, you know, I came out the backfield a lot.

Gibby, man, Gibby coming out that back. Because

here's the thing that people misunderstand. When you coming out the backfield, you got to come out fast.
You can't come out

looking. You got to come out running, man.

And so, because there's matchups, it's either going to be a safety or a linebacker on you most of the time. So, come out running, scare the daylights out of them, and then cut off of them.

You know what I mean? That's what Gibby do so well. So, I think those two, I mean, there's a little bit of Christian McCaffrey, some things that he does as well, man.

Yeah, those are the guys.

I don't think people understand how difficult the running back position is when it comes to those tier one running backs, LT, like you, Jameer Giv, Saquon.

Derrick Henry is a little bit different.

He's not like you guys from the US. No, no, no.
Henry's the old school bail capacity. He's an old school bailout.
Yeah, yeah.

But you, or Jameer Gibb, for example, and you two, LT, being able to get the ball and be at, be fast, being able to come to balance.

And being able to re-accelerate right then and there and being able to set linebackers up, set safeties up, still make a move and not move and not lose any, not momentum, but what's the word?

No wasted movement. That's what I'm looking for.
No wasted movement. Everything, everything

in one transaction, in one transition. Everybody can't do that, man.
I told a man, stop letting LT run that damn Texas route on y'all. Knock his ass down.

He can't do it up and look across y'all's damn face.

He's going to run the flat. He's going to come up and make you think he's going to run the Texas across your face, or he's going to break it out on your ass and haul ass on you.
Man, knock him down.

Uncle I got to a point, though, you know, where they allowed me to stay up that seam. If you, if you didn't, if you

if you stay, if you stayed inside, I just stay in that seam. I did Denver like that up in Mile High one time.
Yeah, you can't went by 70 on. You caught us up.
We played y'all. I think that was my,

I think that might have been my first year back.

My first year back in Denver, where you hit her for like 200 and had 10 catches.

I said, well, damn.

I'm like,

where he come from,

man. It's

like

the running back position now, LT, you see a lot of guys, because a lot of teams run a two-back system. That's not what you had.
You were old school, tight end, fullback in front of you,

low-knail, leading low.

Yeah, leading the way.

That's what you had. In today's game, it's more of a two-back system.

How different

is LT's career if he had to split, if he had to split reps?

What do you mean, if I had to? I wouldn't do it.

I wouldn't do it. Like, no,

I was selfish. I ain't coming out the game, dog.
You know what I'm saying? And that was part of the reason why, like, I prided myself on being able to do everything.

So you didn't have to say, oh,

he can't block or he can't run this route or he can't catch. I prided myself on that.
And I wanted to take every rep.

I was just that competitive because I believe if I was on the sideline, something was going to happen

that,

you know, like I couldn't control. So I couldn't do it today, man.
And here's the other thing. Like when you're the bell cow guy, you're thinking the long call, huh?

Oh, Joe, you're thinking, okay, in the fourth quarter. is when I really got to get going.
Let me, you know, let me get my yards. I'm going to step out of bounds here and and there.

You know what I'm saying? I'm going to save myself. But in the fourth quarter, when them boys a little bit tired, I'm going to give them the stiff arm.
You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to run through a couple of tackles. That's when, because that was something that Marty Schottenheimer instilled in me.
And pose your will throughout the game.

I mean, I hear it playing in my mind like yesterday. That was something he always said, and we live by it.

Yeah, y'all, I mean, maybe

you went to the perfect situation because Marty's going to run the football. Marty gonna run it.

Marty, gonna put that ball in your belly, ALT. That's what Marty gonna do.

Hey, but here's the thing, though, y'all. So, in college, think about it.
I was a perimeter runner.

Like, you know, I was a sweep guy, you know, get on the perimeter, do my thing. Man, when I first got to San Diego and Marty came in, he started talking about running power and going down the A gap.

Hey, I used to bounce that thing so much that Joe used to get mad. He used to get, stay in the A gap, stay trusted.
I'm like, Coach, ain't nothing.

I gotta bounce it. You know what I'm saying? But I had to learn, man.

I had to learn how to be an inside runner. I didn't want to embrace it at first, but I'm glad I did, man.
It did make me a better, obviously, a better person. Hell, y'all running that power.

Y'all pulling guard tackle and damn little Lol.

Hell, you kick it out, pin it down. It did.
Here comes Low Neal up in the hole on the linebacker. Now you one-on-one with the safety.

Hey, Zoe, Zoe's gonna clear it out every time.

Hey, them old school, them old school fullbacks like Sam Gash. I played with

Gasher. And Lil Neil, they come with bad intentions.
Head first. Oh, yeah.

Let's roll it off.

Hey, Lowe used to say, hey, before the player, you say, hey, daddy, get on my hip and don't dip. Let's go.
That's what he used to do.

Hey, they scared of Lil Neil, man. Low.
Hey, get Lil Neil like one carry a game on 31. You good.
Yeah. Yeah, you good.
You good.

He bought

he bought in. LT, man, you look like you done, you done lost some weight.
Damn, you done trimmed down.

Ocho, man, I'm on this intermittent fasting. Oh, no.
You know,

yeah, man. I get my workouts every day, man.

I feel good, man. You gotta come.

I'm at planning.

Yeah,

LT, you might be on the 200, LT.

I'm about 210. i'm about 210.
and you need to come holler at your boy you know i'm a nutritionist right now i'm a nutritionist

what that diet like you know the same thing i ate when i played

hey lt don't

you know 11 nfl teams already hired me to help with that nutrition so the player stopped getting hurt no more none of that soft tissue injury no non-contact, no, none of that.

None of that's happening. No, you charge it too much.
Oh, Choe, you know, I'm on a budget now.

Hey, LT, I charge $20 a week. That ain't nothing.

That's still too much.

I'll mess with you. $10, I mess with you.

Hey,

LT, so what time do you eat your first meal?

About one o'clock.

So you get all your meals in between what one and seven one and eight

one one and eight yeah one and eight man so you're going about 14 to 16 hours fasting yep yep i do

you so when when do you work out you work out in the morning so you working out on the empty stomach

so you do a fast

empty stomach i am yeah okay i am man so i get i usually work out about nine to ten o'clock in the morning i get up early get the kids off to school you know and then uh

you know, I see, I will modify with coffee. So I'll have coffee in the morning by 10 ounces.
That's it. Damn.

But do you know how much 10 ounces is?

10 ounces. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, about 10 ounces. That's a that's a can of coke.
A can of coke is 12 ounces. You got too fewer than that.

But that coffee run through. You ain't got nothing on your stomach.
Yeah. Yeah, I love that coffee, man.

And then I'll get my workout.

By that time, by that time, you know, it's around 12 o'clock. And once I order food or cook food,

it's one o'clock. So, yeah.

Go ahead, Ocho. I'm going to say, you smoke cigars?

Yeah, absolutely. Yes, sir.

I got a cigar lounge in my house, Ocho. What?

Yes, I got a cigar lounge. Hey, boy, you rich.

I got to leave home to go to the cigar bar. He got one in the house.
Yeah. Oh,

him and Joe, both of them got properties. Nah, my brother go, he go on the back, he go on the back porch.
He got no lounge in the house. He go to the back porch and blow it out.

Hey, LT, people always ask,

it was me, you, and time, and Carissa. And we had picked somebody, and I had picked them to win.
And time told me I didn't do that.

And you said, he did. He picked him.
I said, Time, I swear before four God and two white men, I picked him.

And y'all, oh my God.

But they don't really, oh, LT,

the conversation that we had watching the games, me, you, and time.

Yeah.

I'm glad because this is what kind of what my mind, this is what I envisioned with Nightcap to be. was kind of, you know, we, yeah, we talk about games, but we talk about a lot of other things.
Man,

oh cho i was that was some of my best work lt said man but man lt told me i need to be a comedian say i don't know how why you play football you need to be a damn comedian for real dog this man said two white men like why gotta be two white man like oh they just stakeholders

back then you know back in the day you wouldn't lie before them now because it was hell to pay you lie before them

But man,

that was some fun times, man. Tom and I talked about that, man.
That was some great times. LT, thanks for joining us, man.

Congratulations on the Frogs going down to Chapel Hill 4814 over the Tar Hills. Come back and join us later this season, LT.

I definitely will, man.

Pleasure, my brother. Love y'all.
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LT, Ocho, are you surprised that Saquon beat out Josh Allen and Lamar to be the number one player in the NFL this season, voted on by his peers?

LTM.

I'm a bit surprised. So am I.

Because we're living in a world where it's all about the quarterback, and we know that. And rightfully so.
I mean, Josh Allen is the reigning MVP, okay? So you would think that

he would get the most votes from his peers. And even beyond Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, with the type of season he had last year, man, he had one of the top seasons from any quarterback in history.

You hear me? So, you know,

I'm very surprised. I mean, Saquon obviously had a spectacular year and, you know, got close to the rushing record of a single season, but he didn't get it.

And so, you know, that holds way that he didn't get it, but he did win the Super Bowl. So I think players.

at the end of the day are giving him credit for being you know going over 2 000 yards and winning the super bowl championship and being the catalyst for this that that eagles and offensive player of the year

that's right and i think that had a lot to do with it look

i think he deserves it saquan has has really elevated the running back position the value the value of the running back position so hands down i salute saquan man for being the number one player respect and and we've talked more about the running back position in 20 in 24 and leading to 25 than we have at any point in time in the last decade, guys, because of what we saw with Derrick Henry, what we saw with Saquon Barkley, what we saw with a Josh Jacobs, what we saw with Joe Mixon.

There were a lot of running backs like, hold on, Jonathan Taylor, hold on. They still got some.
Jameer Gibbs.

Jameer Gibbs.

So they're trying to say, look, there is still value.

when used correctly. So y'all want to put them behind, y'all want to put them behind

no quarterback, so-so offensive line. Look at all these guys that we mentioned.
Saquon Barkley, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line.

Derrick Henry, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line. Joe Bixon, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line.
Gibbs, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line.

Josh Jacobs, look at his quarterback. You see a real current theme here? Yeah.
But see,

but when a quarterback doesn't succeed, boy, they make every excuse in the world. Now all of a sudden, the running back knows to see, oh, man, he over the heel.
There ain't no value in him.

Nah, you're right. Ain't nobody running behind that ain't got no line.
And if I sit my defense and your quarterback can't beat me, I am not going to let your running back beat me.

You saw what the Chiefs tried to do in the Super Bowl, guys. They said, we are not letting Saquon beat us.

Josh, Jalen Hurts says, okay, you know what? I don't drink no beer, but hold this ginger ale. I got something for y'all.
I got something for y'all.

Go ahead, Ocho. Are you surprised to see Saquon at the top? You got two backs in the top 10.
Top 10. Yeah, most definitely.
I wasn't surprised at all.

Obviously, Saquon is a tier one back, and those tier one backs are the reason why the value of the running back position is now prevalent because of players like Saquon.

Obviously, being in the perfect situation, Eagles offensive line. And he's one of the reasons why they were able to reach the Super Bowl, actually take them over the hump.

and getting back to the Super Bowl. Obviously, we have to give credit to their defense as well.
But

Josh Allen had a great season.

lamar jackson had a great season but i think uh the the number one spot was given to saquan not with just his play on the field but what he does also off the field and the fact that he was able to win a ring was the cherry on top so it was a it was a no-brainer as far as your peers picking him as number one yeah

um so saquan barkley voted by his peers as the number one player in the nfl in the top 100 lamar jackson was second lamar jackson was second last year josh allen is number three i think he was outside of the top 10.

jamar chase was way down he's number four. Patrick Mahomes was number four last year.
He's number five.

Whoa, what do you mean way down? I think he was 35 last year, Ocho. Chase was.
Yeah,

he was, yeah.

Oh, I thought you said way down. No, no, no.
I was saying compared to where he was last year. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Lamar was two last year. I think Josh Allen was 12.

I think Jamar Chase was like 35. Patrick Mahomes was four.
Joe Burrow was a little outside of the top 20, I think. Derrick Henry, Miles Garrett.
Miles Garrett was number five.

Justin Jefferson had coming off that sensational year. He got in.
I think he got Nick, but Justin Jefferson has been a top player.

He's been Mr. Consistent.
And, you know, defensive player of the year, Patrick Sartain.

But I think with mainly with Saquon and Derrick Henry, what they were able to do. One guy went for 2,000.
The other guy went for 1,921. First time a guy that's rushed for 1,900 yards didn't.

win the rushing title. So that just goes to show you how well the other guy played.
Because normally, LT, you get 1,900 yards. You're like, yeah, I got that rush.
I got that fake in the bag.

What? Absolutely. And let's keep this in mind, guys.
The easiest way to win games is still running the football.

I mean, because you take away the chances of turning it over and crazy things happening where you can run the football and impose your will, you know, cut down on the game.

You help your defense and all that kind of stuff. So I think.
At the end of the day, that's why we're starting to see just a little shift.

I'm not saying we're going completely back to when you're going to be able to do that. No, not early.
No, no, no, no. Not 90 to 30, 2000.
We ain't going to never get back there.

No, we ain't going to never get back there. But I think there is more teams that's starting to focus on

the run game a little bit more to control games, especially when you have a young quarterback or a quarterback who can manage things at the line of scrimmage, like all the ones you mentioned.

Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, all those guys that have good running backs as well. Well, it's not going back because you see where these quarterback salaries are going.

You're about to have a quarterback making 70 million. You're not paying the guy $70 million to turn around and hand it to a guy that's making 10 million.
That ain't happening.

We're paying you 70 million to throw it to a guy that's making 40.

So that's why you're never going to see. And plus, why would you? Because guess what? I can get a rough in the passer.
I can get an illegal contact. I can get unnecessary roughness.

I got so many things that can go right if I just throw the football. You see, deep.

um but you're still putting that that 70 million dollar quarterback in jeopardy if you got a defense that's hit there yeah but for 70 million dollars i'm in jeopardy

you see what josh allen you see what josh allen just got this offseason lt 330 million with a quarter of a billy guaranteed but you know you got to think about too um you got to remember this nfair too lt this is this is the passing league and yes running backs that can take that time off the clock that can get the defense of wrestling on the sideline it's only a handful of them.

It's only a handful of them bulls like they can really carry that whole offense on their back where you don't even have to throw the ball when it comes to crunch time and you want to buy some time and take some time off the clock.

It's only a few now. Oh, yeah, there's only there's only a handful of guys.
I remember when Peyton Manning came to the Broncos, I mean, he was the highest, he got like 96 million for five years.

I mean, just think about that. Just

wow, and what for the longest time,

25 million was pretty good money for what's great money for a quarterback and then it went to 30 and then they like no 30 ain't nothing now there for now you had 60 million dollars yeah

60 million dollars and guess what lt we know this ocho they're gonna add another game oh yeah it's gonna be 18 games oh i give it five years they're gonna add another playoff game too that's coming because

YouTube, YouTube want in on this action. They want to become a network.
In the only way to become a network, you got to have live sporting events, mainly the NFL.

Guess who else want to get in on that?

Netflix.

Amazon. Amazon.
Amazon said, you know, look, we love that Thursday night package. We really do, guys.
We don't want you to think we're greedy, but we are.

We like Black Friday football, that Friday game after Thanksgiving.

But I mean, we could really use a package.

And you're talking about somebody that's sitting on hordes of cash. Somebody that's sitting on 30, 40, 50, 100 billion in cash.
And the one for a

money talk, cash screams.

So

we're going to see what's happening, but it's coming. It's coming.

What was it? He said, Coach, what you call him said by 2025,

he close.

They wanted to be a $20 billion industry. They're close.

2030? Absolutely. It's going to be $25, $30 billion a year.
Easy. So, so, so let's, let's, uh, let's sit with that one for a minute because I got a question.

Okay, so that means that the season is gonna have to be prolonged a little bit because the players gonna want another

two by weeks. We used to have two bye weeks, uh, uh, LT, before you got in the league back in the mid-90s.
Yeah, you had two bye weeks, yeah. We had we had two, yeah, in the 90s.

Wow,

yeah,

you had two bye. You got it, you got to have it, but oh, Joe,

LT, LT, man, they're going to be playing the Super Bowl on goddamn St. Patrick's Day.

Exactly. And that's what I'm thinking.
Because you're starting out the Labor Day. If you got two bye weeks, think about it.
You already at the second week.

You're already at the second week in what's called. So now if you add another

playoff game,

you're going to be damn near St. Patty's Day.

You damn sure have the President's Day in February. You're going to be the third.
Hey, you're going to be the third week, fourth week.

Well, there's only four weeks in February anyway, but you might be playing on leap year.

But that's what the money is because what else can you do? The only thing you can do is give them another game. There ain't nothing else you can do in the game, within the game.

You can only give them an additional game to create additional revenue. Revenue, yeah.
And these owners, the one thing we know about them, they can know you can never, that's one thing.

You've never heard somebody say, people have said, I got too many pairs of shoes. I got too many, too many, too much jewelry.
I got too many cars. I got too many homes.

Name the person that's ever said, Man, I got too much money. Yeah, you're right.
But listen, this is

also even, you gotta, you gotta remember, too, if they are adding the game, even no matter how long it is, if it the season goes in the second, third week of February, the players understand they're getting a bigger, a bigger piece of the pie, too.

They're getting a bigger piece of the pie. Now, I don't know, we don't know what it's going to look like yet.
All I want, that pie, Ocho.

I don't want any, don't, don't franchise me, no franchise tags.

I want lifetime.

If I get 10 years in the league,

LT, Ocho, I want lifetime health benefits.

That should be a bare minimum, Ocho.

LT, that should be a bare minimum.

Because let's just say for the sake of argument, you get health insurance for five years after you retire.

The average career is about two and a half to three years. Okay, you retire at 25.

Bruh, you ain't going to have no illness, nothing really major, some. At 30, you need that issue 65.

Down the road. Yes.

I mean,

you can prolong it. You can take

the five years anytime you want to,

but at 30, from 25 to 30, nah, nah, nah, nah.

If I get 10 years, I want lifetime health benefits.

And guess what? I don't want you to be able to franchise me. Yeah.
No. And all this.
Well, they got to pick one or the other.

You know how this works. I want both of them.
Ocho, you know how this works.

You got to come to the table and the owners are going to tell you you're going to get one thing which one which one do you want do you want lifetime benefits well then that's what we're going to we're going to work out a deal to make well i say you get one and then the players gonna have to i say i tell you what you get one you want an extra regular season game or an extra playoff game you get one

hey

hey listen player the players got one person on a lt that'll fight for them one person you put me in you put me in position of power to represent the players. I'm going to get us lifetime benefits.

No franchise tag.

And what's the other one? Guaranteed contracts. That's my three.

Hey, listen.

Hey, I'm telling you, LT, I'm telling you, once I put that suit on, once I put that suit and that tie on, and you put me in the right room and I flip that switch, boy, it's a wrap. But

the players have got to get something. But they bargained for petty privileges way back when, LT.
Because I see you bargaining and talking about, well, I don't want to do two a days.

Well, I don't want to put the pads on, but so many times during the course of the year. Bro, you played a game of football.
You play tackle football, but you don't want to tackle? Yeah. Yeah.

So you bargain for petty privileges. Go look at what Roger Goodell bargained for.

Look at what they bargained for. Different.
Now, Roger Goodell ain't taking no hits. He got lifetime medical.
He gets used to the jet.

You see what he bargains? You see the difference between bargaining, what I'm bargaining for, and what you're bargaining for? He wants benefits. They think in long term, too.

Even though he's making $30, $40 million a year, he wants someone else to pay for those lifetime benefits.

But, why do you think, I mean, think about it. Why as players, the current players, why aren't they thinking about lifetime benefits? Why isn't that an area of focus?

I'm not going to get a debilitating illness. I'm not going to get anything that's going to disrupt what I've already got.

I remember, and I'm not going to call anybody's name, because I was in the league when free agency actually happened, LT.

And there are a lot of guys, man, you give me a million dollars, damn them benefits. I buy my own health insurance.
Now, I ain't telling you what somebody told you. I'm telling you what I know.

Because I was in the league when the Reggie White and the Self-Joiners, when they filed that petition and it came and we got free agency. And that's what a lot of guys say.

You give me a million dollars, you give me $2 million, I buy my own health care.

And that's my point, Ark. That's my point because most players feel like that.
We invest. Yeah, absolutely.

We never think about what's going to happen, you know, after we retire 10, 15 years after we retire. We never think about that.
We are warriors.

We only think about what's happening now and getting as much money as possible for us to live off of. And see what happens.

You get a situation where you get a divorce or you have a couple of kids outside.

And next thing you know, $5,000, $10,000, $15,000 a month. The wife takes halves, she takes half your pension.
So now you're half the person that you went into the relationship with.

Now, long term, because if somebody would have told me when I was 25,

35, 40, that I was going to have both of my hips replaced, I wouldn't have believed it.

So now you're talking about $125,000 surgery per.

Okay, you get, I mean, some of these cancer drugs, you're talking about $30,000, $40,000 a month.

What? Whoa. A month, a month,

a month, a month.

Yes. So, like, LT,

to your point, LT, we don't think,

we think we're invincible. And things that

happen to normal citizens that didn't play in the NFL, that ain't going to happen to us.

We're not going to become a burden. We're not going to have Alzheimer's.
We're not going to have dementia. We're not going to suffer Lou Gary's.
We're not going to suffer things. That is a stress.

When you have to have 24-hour care, boy, that, hey, boy, that's got to eat up a savings.

And so they don't, you don't, you don't think about things like that. But I wish the players would think, give it more care, more consideration when they think long-term and say, like, you know what?

Okay.

Yeah.

But a lot of, and plus, guys,

Other sports, they think about the guys that's coming after them.

You see, Kurt Flood, he never benefited for free agency, cost him his career, but everybody else that did. You see, nobody is willing to risk anything that might cost them.

And the thing is, Ocho, and I told LT, I told Ocho this. Sometimes you got to plant a tree, realizing that you're not going to benefit from the shade it produces.

Sometimes you got to fight for something

that you're not going to be the benefit of what you're actually fighting for.

Think about all the people in the 60s that fought for civil rights, that never got a chance.

Come on now. That never got a chance to sit at a,

to go to

a non-segregated place,

that never got an opportunity to do anything but sit in the back.

That never got an opportunity to see a black president. That never got an opportunity to some of the things that we get afforded.

Sometimes you have to be willing to sacrifice some things for the betterment of everything.

And I don't think enough people think of it like

oh, Joe, Micah Parsons was reportedly viewed by some Cowboys teammates as egotistical and self-centered.

Hold on, Sports Illustrated, Albert Breer reports Martin, Lamb, and Prescott are very popular in the locker room. That's Zach Martin, CeeDee Lamb, Dak Prescott.

That's not the case with Parsons, who has rankled teammates

in different ways, seen by some as egotistical and self-centered. His podcast, which we knew, Ocho, has created issues too.
And they go all the way up to the quarterback, Dak Prescott.

We said that we would start hearing negative comments about Michael. Ocho, what did I tell you? We just had this when we had this conversation.

I said, oh, Ocho, pretty soon, you're going to start hearing negative comments about Marcus City, Michael Sleep, but not that longer. I said, come on, Ocho.
I know it's coming.

But

I always felt

because here's the thing: Ocho. You do a podcast.
Yes, sir. You lose the first thing they're going to say.
If you get your ass off the podcast and practice and study your play, you win games.

In order for your podcast, you got to be interested, you got to be entertaining. So you got to take shots at other people.

And, you know, I think there was a situation, wasn't it talking about quarterbacks? And he didn't have Dak in his top five or something like that.

I remember that.

So, yeah,

I get it.

I don't have a problem. I think the thing is, Ocho, a lot of people want to get on the media, going to get in the media space and they're trying to create that medium now.

But you have to be careful. You really have to be careful.
I tell guys, look, if CBS or Fox or NBC calls you and they ask you, go do it on your bye week. Right.
Go to your local news station.

Talk sports. Talk to the guy that does sports.
That's what I did when I was in Denver. I had a local radio show.

But when they called me, hey, I would go do highlights. Right.
Do something. But this podcast, I mean,

you have to be careful. And plus, and I'm going to turn it over to you, Ocho.

Everybody is not going to be liked in a locker room. I don't care how great you are.
There are going to be some people that you're going to rub the wrong way. You don't talk too much.
You standoffish.

You don't talk enough. You don't ingratiate yourself to the locker room.
So everybody is not going to be beloved. That's okay.
That's okay. But I knew this podcast would cause an issue.

Go ahead, Ocho. It shouldn't have.
There's no reason it should cause an issue.

Anything Micah decides to do outside of the game of football when he's not playing, when he's not in meetings, when he's not playing a game, you know, it's all for it.

I'm all for it. If you know Micah, if you met him personally, you understand he's a very playful, fun-loving guy.
He's not, he's a likable person. He's not in the type of play that

you can not like, you know, or one of those people who come to work and it's strictly business. He doesn't associate with you.
No, he's friendly.

So again, when things like this come out, of course, those who might not like him are those who probably don't do their goddamn job on Sundays at one o'clock.

I bet you that. Those who don't like him are the ones who don't show up like he showed up the past four years and doing what he's supposed to do.

and being one of the few who's had 12 sacks in the last four years at his position. I guarantee you that.

Let's pull up the stats for the people or the person that's in that locker room that claims they don't like him.

And I guarantee you, it doesn't live up to the standard at their position, that he lives up to it. His,

I bet you that. It's always hating ass shit.
I'm sorry.

It's always someone that's not frowned upon, someone else who's doing something outside of the building, but they handles their business inside of the building, especially in between the lines.

That's it.

It is.

But I'm not, look, I'm not surprised.

I'm sure there are a lot of people that like me in Denver. Some didn't.
Some people like me in Baltimore. Some didn't.

I guess some a little more now than others, but hey, that's neither good nor that.

Ojo, you know, Cincinnati. Hey, that threw me for a loop.

That threw me for a loop. I mean, I mean,

I know, I know, I know, but I'm just, yeah.

It threw a lot of people for a loop, OJo.

But I look,

it's over with now.

And let's go to the, right here, because it's just add, just add some layers to it. Just a week ago, Dak said he was confident Parsons would be on the field for the Cowboys matchup week one.
Well, Dak

has a new tune since Michael got dealt. I definitely think he was going to get,

I definitely didn't think he was going to get

traded, but just the way their negotiations went down, obviously to

some extent, hell, y'all were asking me questions. Remember, I said that's how it becomes a distraction because you're not asking me about the game.
You're asking me about Michael's contract.

Y'all was asking me questions. It seemed like it had gotten personal, which we said that it had become personal.

And so that's why I wasn't surprised. Yeah, I told you.
Hit Jerry's Eagle.

Now,

it came out today that Deron Bland got a contract extension.

But did you hold on?

Well deserved. Well deserved.

But they had been working with his representative since offseason. Jake Ferguson got a deal.
They had been

working with his representative all offseason. They're trying to get Tyler Smith done.
They're working with his representative. You see here, Ocho? You see how Jerry's ego?

Jerry's ego wouldn't let him work with Micah's agent because I'm going to show you I do what I want to do. And if you want to do a deal here, you're going to do it my way.

So if you work with all of those guys representative, he worked with CD's representative. He worked with Dak's representative.
I just listed three guys represented that he worked with.

But for some reason, he was unwilling to work with Micah's representative.

He took that friendship and those conversations to heart. He took those friendship,

those conversations and that friendship to heart. And Micah split that right down in the middle.
Listen, I play for your team. You sign my checks.

But when it comes to conducting business, you're going to have to talk to my representation. Even after whatever handshake or whatever words might have been exchanged.

That's not the way contracts work. That's not the way business works.
You were trying to undermine Micah Parsons.

You were trying to pay him not what he's worth, obviously, because he mentioned about what he was offering, but the offering that he was paying Micah to make him the highest paid was before TJ Watt got paid.

It was before Miles Garrett got paid. And plus, he said, I will make you the highest paid, but you added years.
You added a year to it.

Trying to be slick. Trying to be slick.

Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett got four years, 160.

No, bro, I'm not going to let you do that. I shook your hand, but I told you, call my agent, call my representative.

You won't call the representative back? No.

You try, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. They told you.
No, we don't, you want to do a five-year plus the option. That's six years.

Most agents want to keep that thing four plus the one because I want another black bite at this.

Now, because what once once Micah contracts, once his that 3136 guaranteed money, so within the first three years, he's not going to have any more guaranteed money the back end, Ocho.

So now, and plus, that means his

cap number is going to be extremely high because I get to prorate that 120 over a five-year period.

So I try to try to div it up equally.

But at the back end,

those last couple years, Ocho, that thing going to be high as giraffe head. Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah. So now I come back to the table.
Well, you know, hey, you know, six years.

Nah, Michael says, hey, I'm 26. I can get another bite at this apple at 30.

Oh, y'all have to see your boy at 30.

30. Come on now.

But

that's what I'm looking at. I'm like, hold on.
What you mean

they talked to Deron Bland's representative? What do you mean they talked to Jake Ferguson's representative? What do you mean they're looking to talk to Tyler Smith representative?

Micah just asked to talk to my representative. No, we had a deal.
No, we didn't. I shook your hand and told you.
Call my agent. Right.

He knew what the agent was going to say. Oh, he know.
No, hey, wait, the supposedly the best agent in the game? Oh, you know exactly what he was going to say.

You knew exactly. You can't pull a fast one on the agent.
Right. Pull a fast one on the player.
Yeah, because he looked at Micah looking at it, oh cho, he looking at that man, 200 million.

Oh, you're oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. See, it looked good, it looked good.
But the agent, the agent got a magnifying glass.

Let me peel back some of these layers to this 200 million you're talking about.

You know, see, I got light on

here with dark in the room, boy, I can't feed. I need it, yeah, you know, you're going to do restaurants, oh, and they hand you the menu.
I pull out my phone right quick, put that light on it.

Hey, it never, it never ever

seems what they say it is. Never.
That's why you need representation. That's it.

Oh, Joe, I'm not saying we've seen guys, we see Lamar and his mom, and with the help of an NFL PA lawyer, do the contract themselves. But they made it abundantly clear.

We're not hiring representation. We'll do something hourly.
We'll get an NFL PA. We saw Bobby Wagner do that.
We saw Sherm do his own contract.

Okay, if the guy says I'm doing my own contract, I got no problem with that. You can, the owner, the general manager can work directly with the player.
You see, Shay Gilgis.

Now, it's a lot easier in basketball because you either get in the max or damn near close to a max deal. So, Shay says, I'm not finna hand over 3%, 4% when I already know I'm going to get the max.

Right. Got it.
Got it. But in the NFL,

hey, Lamarck says, I feel I can go it alone. That 3%, I can keep that in my pocket.
And when you're dealing with that kind of money, 3% don't seem like much.

When you start dealing $100, $200, $300 million, 3% is a damn lot of money. A lot of money.
A whole lot of money. So with that being said, he knew Michael had representation.

Now, he worked with everybody else's representation. Now, if that's what I, if what I read was correct, it says he worked, they've been working with Deron Bland's representation all offseason.

Same thing with Jake Ferguson, and they're working with Tyler Smith, trying to get something done now. We know they work with Dak Prescott.
He's the highest paid.

Todd, he didn't do a deal directly with Dak. He worked with Todd France, who's the CD's agent

he worked with that but for some reason i i just need to know why was he so unwilling to work with david mugaletta that i just need somebody to explain that to me

also probably understand maybe he didn't want to pay mic all along maybe didn't want to pay mic all along understanding that he had other deals coming off the table like the ron bland or whatever he's getting ready to do with jake ferguson or whoever else they might pay before the season

okay

okay they would ca

yeah but but here's the thing ocho if that's the case if you needed to stop the run if you didn't like the way michael was hurt if you don't think michael so why would you negotiate so why would you want to deal do a deal with the guy if he is not what you think he is or he's not the player so why would you even enter why would you even try to work a deal with him why not just go ahead and trade why not get a draft pick this year

because he was lying to himself or he was lying to us trying to make us believe that he's the reason

believe like okay, now he's gone. Well, we let him go because, hey, we need to get better at stopping the run.
Child, please, stop playing. Yeah.
You hadn't been able to stop the run for four years.

So what you got all those defensive tackles for?

You see, the problem that I have is that your defense was not built to stop the run. Your offense was.

And Shannon, what do you, and people, I know chat, you're asking me to say, well, Shannon, what do you mean? His offense was bid to get the lead. And so now his defense pinning the ears back.

They're an undersized defense. And as long as you you can keep the game close or you can get the lead, you can pound their ass.

Pause.

You can run the ball.

Because

I know y'all

about to say some crazy stuff. So in other words, you can run the ball on them because they're built to play with a lead and get pressure.

Now,

guess what? They ain't got no lead. They have to stand up in there.
And a lot of those guys ain't got a whole lot of bricks in their back pocket. So

when you build your team a certain way well you build your team with speed you need to be able to use it and if you got a team that that want to run the football speed don't help you nah

at all

so uh

that that that's that's one of the things um

and look and people like well what dak could have did no if i'm dak i ain't doing nothing i'm getting all my money oh absolutely

my job my job you tell us with players

oh cho what they tell us he's He's a player. Well, if I'm a player, my job ain't trying to figure out the cap.

You figure out the cap. You don't pay me extra work on the cap.
You pay me a salary to do what I do on the football field. All that other stuff, it ain't my job to worry about the cap.

Well, you know, they got a cap and you can only do so. I ain't got nothing to do with me.

You know what else? You know what else works in favor, especially in quarterback positions, especially in Dak position?

There have been other quarterbacks that have been in great situations with the timing of when it's time for them to get paid, there's nowhere else for that team to go right there's nowhere else for that team to go to get someone that's competent enough to come in come in and be quarterback number one so you ain't got no choice but to pay these young fellas what they owe at the time you ain't got no choice because there's no other there's no other option right and plus i'm not first of all i don't trust jerry jerry ain't built nothing in 30 years so why would i why am i gonna leave him money on the table why am i gonna First of all, this is my really first big bite at the Apple.

Why am I going to give a guy that's worth 15 billion? Why am I going to give him a discount? Absolutely not.

Chad, let's just say for the sake of argument, you work for a company and that company is worth 20 billion. And they say, you know what,

Charlene,

we want to get Pam an HR, but it's going to cost us to go take 15,000 of your money. Well, Charlene ain't going to be an HR because you ain't taking a dime of mine.

So, no, you don't give no billionaire no discount. You a millionaire.

Now, if the next contract dat wants to be generous enough now that's that's different they're on him but i feel no obligation to cut you a slack so you can no no no no that ain't got nothing to do with me not that first one not no that first one no sir because what jerry say when cbs i don't know if you watch this cbs had had the uh the broadcast right a lot of the other owners cbs was losing money A lot of the other owners wanted to keep CBS as the broadcast partner.

Jerry said, no, we're not cutting them a deal. We're not going to do it.
But see, Jerry refute.

Go ask CBS. Go ask NBC.
Go ask Fox. Go ask Amazon.
Go ask Netflix. Did y'all get a deal with these NFL rights?

They didn't get a deal, but they expect players. Well, Shannon, there's a cap.
What that got to do with me? Ain't no cap on my bank account.

My bank account says as much money that'll pour in, we can take it.

That ain't got nothing to do with me

because teens will make as much money as they can. Now, it's going to sound very, very interesting, Ocho.
Now, you watch with these next contracts, watch around 28.

Because these things come due, they come and do, oh, about 20, so 2020, about 10 years. Watch around 28 when they start doing it.

YouTube is going to say, hey, we want some of this.

Netflix is going to say, hey, man, live programming. We want some of this.
Amazon say, whoo, ooh, man. Oh, man, I see what we do.
Hey, I see what we're doing with these Thursday night games.

I see what we do with these Black Friday games.

Just imagine we get a whole package.

So that 430, that 432 is going to probably be 650.

Come 2028, 2029. Yeah,

I'm going to get me a little piece of that too. Hey, so I man, please.
Yeah, we're going to get me a little piece of that.

I need to holler at Jeff.

I got an interview with Jeff Bezos for a position over at Amazon. So

I'm excited to see how that's going to go. All right.
The Cowboys agreed to terms with cornerback Deron Bland four years, $92 million with an extension of $50 million guaranteed.

And Ocho, he got, what, 20 million at the time of signing. Bland average, 23 million, makes him the sixth highest paid corner in the league.
Bland, a one-time Pro Bowler, the one-time all-pro

from his nine-interception 23 campaign, in which he delivered a record-setting five-pick sixes as part of a prolific

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Oh, yeah, absolutely. He had off you got Nick last year, but his first year, I think he had five picks.
He turned around and gave you a 14.

He got Nick. Hey, you believe he's your guy?

You got a little extra money stashed away since you didn't sign Micah? Hey, we good. They good.
I like it. Yeah,

he definitely earned that.

I'm excited to see him back. I'm excited to see when Trayvon, when Trayvon Diggs comes back.

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I think they, they,

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