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ocho what's up

tom brady said the quarterback position isn't as mentally developed as it was when he entered the league.

I don't believe the quarterback position as mentally developed as it was when I entered the league 25 years ago.

There was a premium on understanding defenses, on understanding matchups,

on, I'd say, pre-snaps, reads, getting your team in and out of the right play.

I felt the way to learn was to play the position over a period of time.

You truly give your team the best chance to win to be a field general.

I think you better have a mental advantage on the field.

And I think sometimes there's more important than physical advantage.

Ocho, do you agree with him?

Hey, do me a favor.

You said a whole lot right there that Brady said.

Bring it, break it.

Listen, break it down to me

in our language.

He says

there was a premium on understanding defenses.

You had to understand what the defense was trying to do.

So now you go out there and you're looking, you're not just looking at your guy like, man, this quarters.

Oh, this is covered.

This he got help over here.

So you needed to understand a pre-snap.

You looking at the alignment.

You're looking at that triangle.

Okay, I see what y'all trying to do.

So he said, you guys need to have a pre-snap.

You need to have an understanding of what's about to happen.

Make sure you get your guys.

Okay.

Do not run a play into a safety that you can't block.

That's a negative play.

So you just gave up or down for whatever reason.

Flip it.

Right.

I like that.

Audible out of it.

But listen, Tom Brady is speaking from a standpoint of being number 12, a standpoint of having the power and the ability to be able to change plays.

Tom Brady, Peyton Manning.

They Drew Brees, it's a few other quarterbacks that I can name.

When they came to the line of scrimmage, no matter how much disguising you did, no matter how much bluffing you did based on down the distance, they already know from watching film, they know what the hell you're doing.

They know what the hell you're doing.

They know exactly where each play is going to be.

Yes.

Snap of the ball.

Even if you wait, even if you wait late and wait till he snaps the ball and he still sees moving in front of him, because once they snap, they looking right downfield.

Okay, if you was down in the box and you shoot back out, okay, this is what they, he already knew what's coming.

And he knows every play you run chad every every offensive play you run especially when it's a pass play there's always somebody open there's always somewhere to go with the ball and it's all about being able to process information on what you see in front of you and knowing where to go with it very fast tom brady peyton manning drew brees were the best at it they were the best

sometimes

you gotta look at what those guys put in

Because a lot of times guys, so see, a lot of times guys now, there's more important things than football.

Football was the most important thing to Tom Brady.

It was the most important thing to Pink Manning.

So there was no life outside of that.

During the season, the most important thing was football.

They didn't play video game.

It wasn't no Call of Duty.

It wasn't no Madden.

It wasn't no doing all this.

They got all the commercials done in the offseason.

So everything that was focused was centered around how can I become the best football player I possibly can.

The question you ask yourself, is that what these quarterbacks today doing?

Yeah.

And also,

you have to give some of the quarterbacks today.

Also, you have to give them a little grace.

You have to give them a little grace because they're starting the game so young, they don't have the freedom to do some of the things that Tom Brady's mentioning.

That takes time to develop.

They even get to that point where you can recognize everything you're seeing and the consciousness trusts you.

Peyton Manning was the coach.

Yeah.

Brady was the coach.

But they know they put so much time in, though, Ocho.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right.

You're right.

So listen, quarterbacks right now, they can't come up to the line of scrimmage and see something and be like, you know what?

This ain't going to work.

We can't run that play.

Sometimes I watch NFL games.

Wait a minute.

The defense shifted.

The defense of the line shifts to the right.

Change it.

Right, you're running power or stretch to the right, right into the teeth of the defense.

Right.

I think some quarterbacks don't have the freedom to be able to do that because their offensive coordinators don't trust them just yet because they're young.

No, you got to earn that.

The only guy that had that kind of freedom early on was Peyton Manning.

Yeah.

They turned the keys over to Peyton.

Brady didn't even have that kind of leeway early in his career.

He earned that trust.

Drew earned that trust.

Rogers earned that trust.

You have to earn that.

And that doesn't happen overnight.

It doesn't.

Patrick Mahomes had to earn Andy's trust in order to be able to be able to.

audible in and out of plays, change a play, you know, things of that nature.

It's different now.

Oh, you're I came in the league.

The quarterbacks called their own plays.

It wasn't looking at the wrist.

They called their plays.

John Elwood called his plays.

Serious?

Yes.

He called a game.

Damn.

Yes.

Wait, no officer coordinator talking into the game.

Hey,

he might say what you like here.

Okay.

Yes, quarterbacks,

the old guard, yo, those guys.

I came in the league.

Quarterbacks were calling some of the quarterbacks not all some of the quarterbacks were calling their own play yeah he's like get out of the sideline yeah you gotta get out of my ear

get up get out of my ear but uh it it it takes a lot you have to put a lot of a lot of timing in yeah and everybody but like you said you're talking about brady running practice he's running he's running uh walkthroughs he's running 707 he's running you know two minutes he's running running no huddle tom is doing those things

If you want a quarterback to have, you got to let him do it.

You got to let him do it.

I got to tell this story.

I don't know if I'm going to get in trouble or not.

I'm not sure if I'm allowed to share this.

I don't even care.

I don't even care, chat.

I'm going to tell you about why the New England Patriots were so goddamn good.

Everybody in the chat, I know you saw the beginning of Full Metal Jacket with the sergeant going off, cursing, and just a he was, he was on one in the beginning of the movie, Full Metal Jacket.

One day in practice,

Bill O'Brien, obviously, the officer coordinator called in the plays.

We're in practice, and Bill radios in the play in Tom's ear.

I'm in the huddle.

I'm assuming maybe Tom didn't get it.

So, Tom's sitting there with his head down,

and he does one of these.

Give me the play.

Give me the play again.

And Bill must have said it again.

He didn't hear it because the thing,

the communication must have been off.

And Tom looked back.

Give me the goddamn play.

Bill, I gave you the fucking play already.

I said it two fucking times.

But I didn't fucking get it.

What the fuck you want me to do?

Jesus Christ, we in the middle of practice.

We're in the middle of practice.

And at that moment, I understood this is why.

This is why.

The smallest things.

That period we were doing where that one play, that one play didn't work and it didn't go right.

We started the whole fucking period over.

Yeah, we started the whole period over so we can get all the plays in succession and get it the right way.

Yep.

I'm like, what?

What?

Yeah.

Bill over there

with the whistle on his finger.

Twirling it back and forth.

Yeah.

So I'm like, man,

what are they running over here?

No, it was unbelievable.

There's so many stories.

I can share that one.

Some of the other ones, it's a little too graphic.

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The first team has to put you through hell yet.

I'm still ready to go.

Haven't had any injuries.

Now, give me my damn money, Thurm told the Associated Press.

With such a turnover, it's a reason why only three running backs, Barkley, McCaffrey, and Henry, are averaging $15 million per

this season as compared to 26 wide receivers.

It's not even the receiver money.

It's like we're hanging with the punters and the kickers.

You're right.

They're looking at it like, oh Joe,

the best years on the tie of a car is when it's brand new.

Yeah.

You drive that car all over the city.

You put 50,000 miles on the car.

Them tires ain't the same.

Yeah.

That's how they look at running backs, LT.

That's how they look at y'all.

They're like, LT, hold on.

LT, we gave you the ball 270 times and you caught 100 passes.

That's 370 touches, LT.

And you did that one, two, three.

Oh, yeah.

That's how they think.

You know, but listen, but the Thurman Thomas's point, that's how they think with the tier two and below running backs.

The tier ones are the ones that are still making the big money, not as much as the receivers, not as much nowhere near the quarterbacks, but the tier ones that could change your whole offense, your tier ones to LT's point, that can kill that time and let your defense rest for a little bit, especially in garbage time when it's time to end a game.

It's only a few.

It's only a handful of those.

That's why it's only a handful.

Make 12, 13, 14, what?

and damn near 20 who made

20 guys to thurman's point

where does saquan barkley have to do to go get that money was it with the giants or was it with someone else oh no they where did derrick henry where did derrick henry have to go ocho to get that money was it with the titans or was it with the ravens and remember last year he played on eight million dollar deal he had two years for 16 million oh but they came back they came back to him yes yeah so the really the only guy that's ever gotten money at the running back position you got to go back to Zeke.

And Zeke was probably the one that really hurt because he was never the same after he got that money.

And

everybody looked at Zeke and they said, hold on, look at that offensive line he got.

He got two for show Hall of Famers, a potential Hall of Famer that retired.

The center retired because he's like, I don't want to do it anymore.

And Zeke just stepped off a cliff.

Yards per game went down.

Yards per carry get down.

Don't remember, he hurt his knee too.

He hurt his knee real bad.

He didn't hurt his knee every year, Ocho.

But

yeah.

But see, but see, this is how you solve that.

For one, the running backs that are game-changing, the guys that can hit a home run from any spot on the field, that can catch the ball and do everything, they're going to be the ones that have to change the game.

And when I say change the game, guys, I'm meaning sign shorter deals.

Strike when the iron is hot.

Running backs, two or three year deals.

you know if if because think about it most running backs they can perform and and and perform at a high level early in their career like it doesn't take long for them to you know kind of get become a staple in the offense and get going and become one of the top at their positions it don't take long so why can't you come back to the table after two and three years and then sign a shorter deal a two-year deal two-year let's say two-year 50 million oh you ain't gonna hear that ocho that's 20 i mean you're gonna have to put let me take let me let me tell you why they're not gonna do it ocho i mean uh lt because in order for me to give you a big signing bonus i need to prorate it over the life of the contract so even if i if you want a two-year deal let's just say oh uh lt you want a two-year deal for 40 million dollars and i want to give you i want to give you i say i give you 20 million dollars to sign Well, I only get to prorate that over two years.

So now that's 10.

So let's just say for the sake of argument, I give you 2 million.

So I give you 2 million.

That's 12 million.

And guess what?

Now that's 28 million.

That's 30.

Your next, that next year is 38 million cap here.

They're not going to let that happen.

So, and plus, when you're a running back and you are

a first round draft pick,

I got you for three years.

Five years.

I got you for five.

Now, if I'm nice,

if I'm nice and you on time and you haven't been injured, I'll do the deal after three.

But if not, I know I got a fourth year, a fifth year option, and two franchise tags.

So I got you for seven years and I ain't got to do nothing.

That's nasty work.

That's that Jerry Jones work you're talking about right now.

The next running back that's going to hit, that's going to hit big and there won't be any question about it.

There won't be, we don't really value the running back position because we know what you can get.

One of the few players, one of the few running backs in the NFL that can hit the head off the goalpost from anywhere on the field, that's brother, that's Brother Jameer Gibbs down in detroit yep oh he he i'm talking about he going he going north of 1718.

yeah oh absolutely john robins gonna get paid too

yeah yeah okay yeah that's nothing they gotta go above 20 though guys like in order to reset the market for future guys in their position that everybody ain't gonna get that we know that everybody's not gonna get that but the special ones they gotta get that you kid 20 that i'm surprised that they did this for saquan because think about it guys he got a 50 million dollar quarterback you got a 50 million dollar quarterback you got a 20

you got a 30 million dollar a 30 million dollar receiver a 28 million dollar receiver yeah yeah and you got a 20 million dollar running back and you got look at lane johnson what he make look at what my lotto make look at what dickersons make they paying Yeah, they did, they just redid

Braun.

You know, you got to see that man child in the middle, Jalen Carter.

You got to see him.

You got two guys on the edge that in another year, you're going to have to see one of them.

Mm-hmm.

Listen, Jalen Carter finna reset the whole market.

He is at

every position.

Well, I don't know if he's, I don't think you'll catch Micah, but the number,

CJ,

Chris Jones.

Stone Cold Jones for the Kansas City Chiefs.

He's at 31 and a half for DT.

So he's way over everybody else at the DT position.

Yeah, most definitely.

You're talking about a guy that's 24 or 25, but he don't realize how good he can be.

Yeah, you know, he still doesn't know how good he can be.

Yeah, you know, you know why he's not going not going to catch Micah?

Or he might not,

he's going to overlap, he's going to overleap Chris Jones.

Yes.

Because Howie and Jeffrey always pay early.

They're not going to wait.

They're not going to wait.

They're going to pay early.

You're not going to turn it down.

And plus, Ocho, the sacks.

DTs don't.

Like I said, the thing is, what spoiled us was Aaron Donald.

Donald, yeah.

Because D tackles not supposed to get 20 sacks, LT.

They're not supposed to be getting 15 sacks.

You start the run, give us about seven or eight sacks.

We have to

have it.

Be disruptive.

Yeah.

Yeah.

But

I agree.

But really, the only guy you got for the longest time, nobody even approached Christian McCaffrey's that 15 and Zeke's 15 for years.

It wasn't until Christian McCaffrey got a new deal from the 49ers that

leapfrogged.

And then, because remember,

the Giants didn't want to do anything with Saquon.

They made him play on the franchise tag and then they ended up letting him go.

And when he let him go, he still didn't get past the 15.

It wasn't until 2,000 yards.

It wasn't until offensive player of the year that he got, he broke the $20 million barrier.

Think about it.

Derrick Henry, he was on an $8 to $10 million a year contract.

So he goes for 19, 21 and 16, 17 touchdowns before they finally put him at the 15.

So somebody going to, hey, in order to break the, to leap from Saquon, boy, you're going to have to have an LT season, 32 touchdowns, offensive player of the year, MVP.

LT, if you want somebody to get 25 million, they're going to have to beat the season because LT had damn 1,900 yards, 30-plus touchdowns.

He caught another 50 passes for another 500 yards, unless you're going to have a season like LT had.

Yeah.

LT was that was the 05 season, right?

When y'all came and played us?

No, it was 06.

Yeah, the 06 where we played y'all.

Y'all jumped up on us.

It was like 21.

Golly, that thing was rocking.

I don't know what happened.

We lost, man.

Would y'all just go ahead and walk them down there though, LT?

Yeah, they were going to be able to get it.

We just walked them down.

Hey, they over there dancing.

Hey, we're on the sideline clapping at them.

Like, okay,

they good.

It's first quarter.

Y'all did good.

LT, when you look around the league today and there's a lot of running backs, what running back reminds you of yourself?

Man, that's a good one.

I mean, you know, I see traces of myself in different running backs, you know.

Like, I think when I think about the jump cut, you know, the balance, the spin and stuff, say Kwan kind of has that

low center of gravity, gravity being able to bounce from hole to hole and then hit the hole explosiveness.

But when I think about like coming out the backfield, you know, I came out the backfield a lot.

Gibby, man, Gibby coming out that back.

Cause

here's the thing that people misunderstand.

When you coming out the backfield, you got to come out fast.

You can't come out tipping looking.

You got to come out running, man.

You know, and so, because there's matchups.

It's either going to be a safety or a library on you most of the time.

So, come out running, scare the daylights out of them, and then cut off of them.

You know what I mean?

That's what Gibby do so well.

So, I think those two, I mean, there's a little bit of Christian McCaffrey, some things that he does as well, man.

Yeah, those are the guys.

I don't think people understand how difficult the running back position is when it comes to those tier one running backs, LT, like you, Jameer Gibbs, Saquon.

Derrick Henry is a little bit different.

He's not like you guys from the

Henry's old school bail guy back.

He's an old school bail guy back.

Yeah, yeah.

But you, Jameer Gibb, for example, and you two, LT, being able to get the ball and be at, be fast, being able to come to balance

and be able to re-accelerate right then and there and being able to set linebackers up, set safeties up, still make a move and not move and not lose any, not momentum, but what's the word?

No wasting movement.

That's what I'm looking for.

No waste of movement.

Everything, everything

in one transaction, in one transition.

Everybody can't do that, man.

I told a man, stop letting LT run that damn Texas route on y'all.

Knock his ass down.

He can't do it up and look across y'all damn face.

And he run two routes.

He gonna run the flat.

He gonna come up and make you think he gonna run Texas across your face, or he gonna break it out on your ass and haul ass on you.

Man, knock him down.

Unc I got to a point, though, you know, where they allow me to stay up that seam if you

if you stay up.

if you stay if you stayed inside i just stay in that seam i did denver like that up up in my house one time

went by 70 on you called us up we played y'all i think that was my

i think that might have been my first year back

my first year back in denver where you hit her for like 200 and had 10 catches

where he come from

man it's uh

like

the running back position now, LT, you see a lot of guys because a lot of teams run a two-back system.

That's not what you had.

You had you were old school, tight end, fullback in front of you,

low kneel, leading the way low, yeah, leading the way.

That that's that's that's what you had.

In today's game, it's more of a two-back system.

How different

is LT's career if he had to split, have he had to split reps?

What do you mean, if I had to?

I wouldn't do it.

I wouldn't do it.

Like, no,

I was selfish.

I ain't coming out the game, dog.

You know what I'm saying?

And that was part of the reason why, like, I prided myself on being able to do everything.

So you didn't have to say, oh,

he can't block or he can't run this route or he can't catch.

I prided myself on that.

And I wanted to take every rep.

I was just that competitive because I believe if I was on the sideline, something was going to happen

that, you know, like I couldn't control.

So I couldn't do it today, man.

And here's the other thing.

Like when you're the bell cow guy, you're thinking the long call, huh?

Ocho.

You're thinking, okay, in the fourth quarter is when I really got to get going.

Let me, you know, let me get my yards.

I'm going to step out of bounds here and there.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to save myself.

But in the fourth quarter, when them boys a little bit time, I'm going to give them the stiff arm.

you know i'm saying i'm gonna run through a couple of tackles that's when because that was something that marty schotenheimer instilled in me and pose your will throughout the game i i mean i hear it playing in my mind like yesterday that was something he always said and we live by it

yeah y'all i mean

maybe you know you went to the perfect situation because marty gonna run the football Marty gonna run it.

Marty go put that ball in your belly, LT.

That's what Marty gonna do.

Hey, but here's the thing, though, y'all.

So in college, think about it.

I was a perimeter runner.

Like, you know, I was a sweep guy, you know, get on the perimeter, do my thing.

Man, when I first got to San Diego and Marty came in, he started talking about running power and going down the A gap.

Hey, I used to bounce that thing.

So much that jumped to get mad.

He used to get, stay in the A gap.

Stay.

Trust it.

I'm like, coach, ain't nothing to do.

I got to bounce it.

You know what I'm saying?

But I had to learn, man.

I had to learn how to be an inside runner.

I didn't want to embrace it at first, but I'm glad I did, man.

It did make me a better, obviously, a better manner.

Hell, y'all running that power.

Y'all pulling guard, tackle, and damn little Low Neal.

Hell, you kick it out, pin it down.

And then here comes Low Neal up in the hole on the linebacker.

Now you one-on-one with the safety.

Zoe gonna clear it out every time.

Hey, them old school, them old school fullbacks like Sam Gash,

I I played with Gasher.

And Lil Neil, they come up with bad intentions.

Head first.

Oh, yeah.

Net roll it all.

Hey, Lowe used to say, hey, before the play, you say, hey, daddy, get on my hip and don't do it.

Let's go.

That's what he used to do.

Hey, they scared of Lil Neil, man.

Hey, get Lil Neil like one carry a game on 31.

You good.

Yeah.

Yeah, you good.

You good.

He bought in.

Hey, he bought it.

He bought in.

LG, man, you look like you done lost some weight.

Damn, you done trimmed down.

Ocho, man, I'm on this intermittent fasting.

Oh, no.

Yeah, man.

I get my workouts every day, man.

I feel good, man.

I'm at planning.

Yeah,

LT, you might be on the 200, LT.

What you.

I'm about 210.

I'm about 210.

And you need to come holler at your boy.

You know, I'm a nutritionist right now.

I'm a nutritionist.

What's that diet like?

You know, the same thing I ate when I played.

Hey, McDonald's.

Hey, LT, don't fuck with me.

You know, 11 NFL teams already hired me to help with their nutrition.

So the players stopped getting hurt.

No more, none of that soft tissue injury.

No non-contact.

No, none of that.

None of that's happening.

Now,

you charge it too much.

Oh, Choe, you know, I'm on a budget now

hey lt i charge 20 a week that ain't nothing

that's still too much

i'll mess with you ten dollars

hey

lt so when what what time do you eat your first meal

uh

so you you get all your meals in between what one and seven one and eight

one one and eight yeah

one and eight man So you're going about 14 to 16 hours fasting.

Yep.

Yep.

I do.

So when do you work out?

You work out in the morning, so you working out on the empty stomach.

So you do a fasting

stomach?

I am.

Yeah.

Okay.

I am, man.

So I usually work out about nine to 10 o'clock in the morning.

I get up early, get the kids off to school, you know, and then,

you know,

see, I will modify with coffee.

So I'll have coffee in the morning by 10 ounces.

That's it.

Damn, but

do you know how much 10 ounces is?

10 ounces.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah, about 10 ounces.

That's a can of coke.

A can of coke is 12 ounces.

You got too fewer than that.

Boy, that coffee one through.

You ain't got nothing on your stomach.

Yeah.

Yeah, I love that coffee, man.

So then I'll get my workout.

By that time.

By that time, you know,

it's around 12 o'clock.

And once I order food or cook food, it's one it's it's one o'clock so yeah

go ahead go ahead oh joe i'm gonna say you smoke cigars

yeah absolutely yes sir i got a cigar lounge in my house ojo what

yes i got a cigar hey boy you rich

i gotta leave home to go to the cigar bar he got one in the house yeah oh him and joe him and joe both of them got properties

no my brother go, he go on the back.

He goes on the back porch.

He got no lounge in the house.

He go to the back porch and blow it out.

Hey, LT, people always ask,

me, it was me, you, and time, and Carissa.

And we had picked somebody, and I had picked them to win.

And time told me I didn't do that.

And you said he did.

He picked him.

I said, Time, I swear before God and two white men, I picked him.

And y'all, oh my God.

But they don't really, oh, LT,

the conversations that we had watching the games, me, you, and time.

Yeah.

I'm glad because this is what kind of what my mind, this is what I envisioned with Nightcap to be.

Was kind of, you know, we, yeah, we talk about games, but we talk about a lot of other things.

Man.

Oh, Joe, I was, that was some of my best work.

LT said, man, LT told me, I need to be a comedian.

Say, I don't know why you play

You need to be a damn comedian

for real, dog.

This man said two white men.

Like, why it gotta be two white men?

Like, oh, they the stakeholders?

What we talking about?

Yeah,

back in here, you know, back in the day, you wouldn't lie before them now because it was hell to pay.

You lie before them.

But, man, that was some fun times, man.

Time and I talked about that, man.

That was some great times.

LT, thanks for joining us, man.

Congratulations on the frogs going down to Chapel Hill 4814 over to Tar Hills.

Come back and join us later this season, LT.

I definitely will.

It's always a pleasure, my brothers.

Love y'all.

Appreciate it, bro.

The NFL top 100, the top 10 NFL players were unveiled tonight.

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lt

i'm a

i'm a bit surprised uh so am i because Because we're living in a world where it's all about the quarterback, and we know that.

And rightfully so.

I mean, josh allen is the reigning mvp okay so you would think that um you know he would get the most votes from his peers and even beyond josh allen lamar jackson with the type of season he had last year man he had one of the top seasons from any quarterback in history you hear me so you know i'm i'm very surprised i mean saquan obviously had a spectacular year and you know got close to the rushing record of a single season but he didn't get it.

And so

that holds way that he didn't get it, but he did win the Super Bowl.

So I think players at the end of the day are giving him credit for being, you know, going over 2,000 yards and winning the Super Bowl championship and being the catalyst for that Eagles.

And offensive player of the year.

That's right.

And I think that had a lot to do with it.

Look,

I think he deserves it.

Saquon has really elevated the running back position, the value, the value of the running back position.

So hands down, I salute Saquon, man, for being the number one player.

Respect.

And we've talked more about the running back position in

24 and leading to 25 than we have at any point in time in the last decade, guys, because of what we saw with Derrick Henry, what we saw with Saquon Barkley, what we saw with a Josh Jacobs, what we saw with Joe Mixon.

There were a lot of running backs like, hold on, Jonathan Taylor, hold on.

They still got some Jameer Gibbs.

So they're trying to say, look, there is still value when used correctly.

So y'all want to put them behind, y'all want to put them behind

no quarterback, so-so offensive line.

Look at all these guys that we mentioned.

Saquon Barkley, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line.

Derrick Henry, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line.

Joe Mixon, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line.

Gibbs, look at his quarterback, look at his offensive line.

Josh Jacobs, look at his quarterback.

You see a real current theme here?

But see,

but when a quarterback doesn't succeed, boy, they make every excuse in the world.

Now all of a sudden, the running back knows to see, oh, man, he over the heel.

There ain't no value in him.

Nah, you're right.

Ain't nobody running behind that ain't got no line.

And if I sit my defense and your quarterback can't beat me, I am not going to let your running back beat me.

You saw what the Chiefs tried to do in the Super Bowl, guys.

They said, we are not letting saquan beat us josh uh uh jalen hurt says okay you know what i don't drink no beer but hold this ginger ale i got something for y'all i got something for y'all go ahead oh joe are you surprised to see saquan at the top you got two backs yeah in the top 10 top 10 yeah most definitely i i wasn't surprised at all obviously saquan is a a tier one back and those tier one backs are the reason why the value of the runaff running back position is now prevalent because of players like Saquon, obviously being in the perfect situation, Eagles offensive line.

And he's one of the reasons why they were able to reach the Super Bowl, actually take them over the hump and getting back to the Super Bowl.

Obviously, we have to give credit to their defense as well.

But

Josh Allen had a great season.

Lamar Jackson had a great season.

But I think the number one spot was given to Saquon, not with just his play on the field, but what he does also off the field.

And the fact that he was able to win a ring was the cherry on top.

So it was a no-brainer as far as your peers picking him as number one.

Yeah.

So Saquon Barkley voted by his peers as the number one player in the NFL in the top 100.

Lamar Jackson was second.

Lamar Jackson was second last year.

Josh Allen is number three.

I think he was outside of the top 10.

Jamar Chase was way down.

He's number four.

Patrick Mahomes was number four last year.

He's number five.

Whoa, what you mean, way down?

I think he was 35 last year, Ocho.

Chase was.

Yeah,

he was, yeah.

Oh, I thought you said way down.

No, no, no.

I was saying compared to where he was last year.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Lamar was two last year.

I think Josh Allen was 12.

I think Jamar Chase was like 35.

Patrick Mahomes was four.

Joe Burrow was a little outside of the top 20, I think.

Derrick Henry, Miles Garrett.

Miles Garrett was number five.

Justin Jefferson had coming off that sensational year.

He got in.

I think he got Nick, but Justin Jefferson has been a top player.

He's been Mr.

Consistent.

And, you know, defensive player of the year, Patrick Sartain.

But I think with mainly with Saquon and Derrick henry what they were able to do one guy went for 2 000 the other guy went for 1921 first time a guy that's rushed for 1900 yards didn't win the rushing title so that just goes to show you how well the other guy played because normally lt you get 1900 yards you're like yeah i got that rushing i got that thing in the bag yeah what absolutely and let's keep this in mind guys the easiest way to win games is still running the football I mean, because you take away the chances of turning it over and crazy things happening when you can run the football and impose your will, you know, cut down on the game, you help your defense and all that kind of stuff.

So I think at the end of the day, that's why we're starting to see just a little shift.

I'm not saying we're going completely back to when you, when we're not early, no, no, no, no.

Not 90 to 30, 2000.

We ain't going to never get back there.

No, we ain't going to never get back there.

But I think there is more teams that's starting to focus on.

the run it the run game a little bit more to control games, especially when you have a young quarterback or a quarterback who can manage things at the line of scrimmage, like all the ones you mentioned, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson, all those guys that have good running backs as well.

Well, it's not going back because you see where these quarterback salaries are going.

You're about to have a quarterback making 70 million.

You're not paying the guy $70 million to turn around and hand it to a guy that's making 10 million.

That ain't happening.

We're paying you 70 million to throw it to a guy that's making 40.

So that's why you're never never going to see.

And plus, why would you?

Because guess what?

I can get a rough in the passer.

I can get illegal contact.

I can get unnecessary roughness.

I got so many things that can go right if I just throw the football.

You see, deep.

But you're still putting that $70 million quarterback in jeopardy if you got a defense that's in there.

Yeah.

But for $70 million, I'm in jeopardy.

You see what Josh Allen?

You see what Josh Allen just got this offseason LT?

$330 million with a quarter of a billy guaranteed but you know you got to think about too um you got to remember this nfa two lt this is this is the passing league and yes running backs that can take that time off the clock that can get the defensive rest on the sideline it's only a handful of them

it's only it's only a handful of them bulls like they can really carry that whole offense on their back where you don't even have to throw the ball when it comes to crunch time and you want to buy some time and take some time off the clock.

It's only a few now.

Oh, yeah.

There's only a handful of guys.

I remember when Peyton Manning came to the Broncos, I mean, he was the highest.

He got like 96 million for five years.

I mean, just think about that.

Just, just,

and, and, what, for the longest time,

25 million was pretty good money for was great money for a quarterback.

And then it went to 30.

And then they were like, no, 30 ain't nothing.

Now they're for, now you had 60 million dollars.

Yeah.

$60 million.

And guess what?

LT, we know this, Ocho.

They're going to add another game.

Oh, yeah.

It's going to be 18 games.

I give it five years.

They're going to add another playoff game, too.

That's coming.

Because

YouTube, YouTube want in on this action.

They want to become a network.

In the only way to become a network, you got to have live sporting events, mainly the NFL.

Guess who else want to get in on that?

Netflix.

Amazon.

Amazon.

Amazon said, you know, look, we love that Thursday night package.

We really do, guys.

We don't want you to think we're greedy, but we are.

We like Black Friday football, that Friday game after Thanksgiving.

But I mean, we could really use a package.

And you're talking about somebody that's sitting on hordes of cash, somebody that's sitting on 30, 40, 50, 100 billion in cash.

And the one thing,

money talk, cash screams.

So

we're going to see what's happening, but it's coming.

It's coming.

What was it?

He said, Coach, what you call him said by 2025,

he close.

They wanted to be a $20 billion industry.

They're close.

2030, absolutely.

It's going to be $25, $30 billion a year.

Easy.

So

let's sit with that one for a minute because I got a question.

Okay, so that means that the season is going to have to be prolonged a little bit because the players are going to want another

two by weeks.

We used to have two bye weeks, LT, before you got in the league.

Back in the mid-90s, you had two bye weeks.

Yeah, we had two.

Yeah, in the 90s.

Wow.

Yeah.

You had two bye.

You got to have it.

But, oh, Joe,

LT, man, they're going to be playing the Super Bowl on goddamn St.

Patrick's Day.

Right.

Right, exactly.

And that's what I'm thinking.

Because you're starting out the Labor Day.

If you got two bye weeks, think about it.

You already at the second week.

You're already at the second week in what's called.

So now if you add another

playoff game,

you're going to be dabbing in St.

Patty's Day.

You dab sure after President's Day in February, you're going to be the third.

Hey, you're going to be the third week, fourth week.

Well, there's only four weeks in February anyway, but you might be playing on leap year.

But that's what the money is because what else can you do?

The only thing you can do is give them another game.

There ain't nothing else you can do in the game, within the game.

You can only give them an additional game to create additional revenue.

Revenue, yeah.

And these owners, the one thing we know about them, they can know you can never, that's one thing you've never heard somebody say, people have said, I got too many pairs of shoes, I got too many, too many, too much jewelry, I got too many cars, I got too many homes.

Name the person that's ever said, man, I got too much money.

Yeah, you're right.

But listen, this is never heard.

Also, even, you got to remember, too, if they are adding the game, even no matter how long it is, if the season goes in the second, third week of February, the players understand they're getting a bigger a bigger piece of the pie too

they're getting a bigger piece of the pie now i don't know we don't know what it's gonna look like yet all i want that pie ocho i don't want any don't don't franchise me no franchise tags yeah yeah i want lifetime if i if i get 10 years in the league uh uh uh lt ocho i want lifetime health benefits that's that that that should be a bare minimum ocho

lt that should be a bare minimum because let's just say for the sake of argument you get health insurance for five years after you retire yes the average career is about two and a half to three years okay you retire at 25

bro

you ain't gonna have no illness not nothing really major some at 30 you need that issue 65 down the road yes

i mean you can you can you know you can prolong it you can take the uh the five years anytime you want to but but at 30 from 25 to 30 nah nah nah nah i won't if i get 10 years i want lifetime health benefits.

I want, and guess what?

I don't want you to be able to franchise me.

Yeah.

No.

And all this.

Well, they got to pick one or the other.

You know how this works.

I want both of them.

Ocho, you know how this works.

You got to come to the table, and the owners are going to tell you you're going to get one thing.

Which one, which one do you want?

Do you want lifetime benefits?

Well, then that's what we're going to work out a deal to make.

Well, I say you get one.

And then the player is going to have to.

I say, I tell you what, you get one.

You want an extra regular season game or an an extra playoff game?

You get one.

Hey,

hey, listen, the player's got one person

that'll fight for them.

One person.

You put me in a position of power to represent the players.

I'm going to get us lifetime benefits.

No franchise tag.

And what's the other one?

Guaranteed contracts.

That's my three.

Hey, listen.

Hey, I'm telling you, LT, I'm telling you, once I put that suit on, once I put that suit and that tie on, and you put me in the right room and I flip that switch, boy, it's a wrap.

But

the players have got to get something, but they bargained for petty privileges way back when, LT.

Because I see you bargaining and talking about, well, I don't want to do two a days.

Well, I don't want to put the pads on, but so many times during the course of the year.

Bro, you played a game of football.

You play tackle football, but you don't want to tackle.

Yeah.

Yeah.

So you bargain for pretty privileges.

Go look at what Roger Goodell bargained for

look at what they bargained for different now roger couldell ain't taking no hits he got lifetime medical he get use of the jet right

you see what he bargain you see the difference between bargaining what i'm bargaining for and what you're bargaining for he wants benefits they think a long term too even though he's making 30 40 million dollars a year he wants someone else to pay for those lifetime benefits

But, um, why do you think, I mean, think about it.

Why, as players, the current players, why aren't they thinking about lifetime benefits?

Why isn't that an area of focus?

I'm not going to get a debilitating illness.

I'm not going to get anything that's going to disrupt what I've already got.

I remember, and I'm not going to call anybody's name, because I was in the league when free agency actually happened, LT.

And there are a lot of guys, man, you give me a million dollars.

Damn them benefits.

I buy my own health insurance.

Now, I ain't telling you what somebody told you.

I'm telling you what I know.

Because I was in the league when the Reggie White and the Self-Joiners when they filed that petition and it came and we got free agency.

And that's what a lot of guys say: you give me a million dollars, you give me two million dollars, I buy my own health care.

And that's my point,

that's my point because most players feel like that.

We invest, yeah, absolutely.

We never think about what's going to happen, you know, after we retire 10, 15 years after we retire.

We never think about that.

We are warriors.

That's we only think about what's happening now and getting as much money money as possible for us to live off of.

And see what happens,

you get a situation where you get a divorce or you have a couple of kids outside.

And next thing you know, 5,000, 10,000, 15,000 a month.

The wife take halves.

She takes half your pension.

So now you're half the person that you went into the relationship with.

Now, long term, because if somebody would have told me when I was 25,

35, 40, that I was going to have both of my hips replaced, I wouldn't have believed it.

So now you're talking about $125,000 surgery per.

Okay, you get, I mean, some of these cancer drugs, you're talking about $30,000, $40,000 a month.

What?

Whoa.

A month, a month.

A month, a month.

Yes.

So, like LT,

to your point, LT, we don't think.

We think we're invincible and things that

happen to normal citizens that didn't play in the that ain't going to happen to us.

We're not going to become a burden.

We're not going to have Alzheimer's.

We're not going to have dementia.

We're not going to suffer Lou Gary's.

We're not going to suffer things.

That is a stress when you have to have 24-hour care.

Boy, that, hey,

boy, that'll eat up a savings.

And so they don't, you don't, you don't think about things like that.

But I wish the players would think, give it more care, more consideration when they think long-term long-term and say, like, you know what?

Okay.

Yeah.

But a lot of, and plus, guys,

other sports, they think about the guys that's coming after them.

You see, Kurt Flood, he never benefited for free agency.

Cost him his career, but everybody else that did.

You see, nobody is willing to risk anything that might cost them.

And the thing is, Ocho, and I told LT, I told Ocho this, sometimes you got to plant a tree, realizing that you're not going to benefit from the shade it produces.

Sometimes you got to fight for something

that you're not going to be the benefit of what you're actually fighting for.

Think about all the people in the 60s that fought for civil rights, never got a chance.

Come on now, that never got a chance to sit at a uh uh uh uh to go to

a segregated, non-segregated place,

that never got an opportunity to do anything but sit in the back,

that never got an opportunity to see a black president, that never got an opportunity to some of the things that we get afforded.

Sometimes you have to be willing to sacrifice some things for the betterment of everything.

And I don't think enough people think of it like.

Oh, Joe, Micah Parsons was reportedly viewed by some Cowboys teammates as egotistical and self-centered.

Hold on.

Sports Illustrated Albert Breer reports Martin, Lamb, and Prescott are very popular in the locker room.

That's Zach Martin, CeeDee Lamb, Dak Prescott.

That's not the case with Parsons, who has rankled teammates in different ways, seen by some as egotistical and self-centered.

His podcast, which we knew, Ocho, has created issues too, and they go all the way up to the quarterback, Dak Prescott.

We said that we would start hearing negative comments about Michael.

Oh, Joe, what did I tell you?

We just had this when we had this conversation.

I said, oh, Ocho, die.

Pretty soon, you're going to start hearing negative comments about Marcus.

Michael Sleeper.long room.

I said, come on, Ocho.

I know it's coming.

But

I always felt

because here's the thing, Ocho.

You do a podcast.

Yes, sir.

You lose the first thing they're going to say.

If you get your ass off the podcast and practice and study your play, you win games.

In order for your podcast you got to be interested you got to be entertaining so you got to take shots at other people and you know i i think there was a situation wasn't it talking about quarterbacks and he didn't have dak in his top five or something like that

i remember that

so yeah

i i get it

i don't have a problem i i think the thing is ocho a lot of people want to get on the media going to get in the media space and they're trying to create that medium now

but you have to be careful You really have to be careful.

I tell guys, look, if CBS or Fox or NBC calls you and they ask you, go do it on your bye week.

Go to your local news station.

Talk sports.

Talk to the guy that does sports.

That's what I did when I was in Denver.

I had a local radio show.

But when they called me, hey, I would go do highlights.

Right.

Do something.

But this podcast, I mean,

you have to be careful.

And plus, and I'm going to turn it over to you, Ocho.

Everybody is not gonna be liked in a locker room i don't how care how great you are there are gonna be some people that you're gonna rub the wrong way you don't talk too much you standoffish uh you don't talk enough you don't ingratiate yourself to the locker room so everybody is not gonna be beloved that's okay that's okay but i knew this podcast would cause an issue go ahead ocho it shouldn't have There's no reason it should cause issues.

Anything Micah decides to do outside of the game of football when he's not playing, when he's not in meetings, when he's not playing a game, you know, it's all for it.

I'm all for it.

If you know Micah, if you met him personally, you understand he's a very playful, fun-loving guy.

He's a likable person.

He's not in the type of play that

you can not like, you know, or one of those people who come to work and it's strictly business.

He doesn't associate with you.

No, he's friendly.

So again, when things like this come out, of course, those who might not like him are those who probably don't do their goddamn job on Sundays at one o'clock.

I bet you that.

Those those who don't like him are the ones who don't show up like he showed up the past four years and doing what he's supposed to do and being one of the few who's had 12 sacks in the last four years at his position i guarantee you that let's pull up the stats for the people or the person that's in that locker room that claims they don't like him and i guarantee you it doesn't live up to the standard at their position that he lives up to at his

i bet you that it's always hating ass shit i'm sorry

it's always someone that's not frowned upon someone else who's doing something outside of the building, but they handles their business inside of the building, especially in between the lines.

That's it.

It is.

But I'm not, look, I'm not surprised.

I'm sure there are a lot of people that like me in Denver.

Some didn't.

Some people like me in Baltimore.

Some didn't.

I guess some a little more now than others, but hey, that's neither here nor there.

ojo you know sensing that hey that threw me for a loop that that threw me for a loop i mean i mean

i know i know i know but i'm just yeah it threw a lot of people for a loop ojo uh

but i look he's it's over with now um

and and let's go to the right here so because this just add just add some layers to it just a week ago dak said he was confident parsons would be on the field for the cowboys matchup week one well dak uh has a night has a new tune since michael got dealt i definitely think he was going to get,

I definitely didn't think he was going to get

traded, but just the way their negotiations went down, obviously to

some extent, hell, y'all were asking me questions.

Remember, I said that's how it becomes a distraction because you're not asking me about the game.

You're asking me about Michael's contract.

Y'all was asking me questions.

It seemed like it had gotten personal, which we said that it had become personal.

And so that's why I wasn't surprised.

Yeah, I told you.

He Jerry's Eagle.

Now,

it came out today that Deron Bland got a contract extension.

Yeah.

But did you hold on?

Well deserved.

Well deserved.

But they had been working with his representative since offseason.

Jake Ferguson got a deal.

They had been

working with his representative all offseason.

They're trying to get Tyler Smith done.

They're working with his representative.

You see here, Ocho?

You see how Jerry's ego?

Jerry's ego wouldn't let him work with Micah's agent because I'm going to show you I do what I want to do.

And if you want to do a deal here, you're going to do it my way.

So if you work with all of those guys representative, he worked with CD's representative.

He worked with Dak's representative.

I just listed three guys represented that he worked with.

But for some reason, he was unwilling to work with Micah's representative.

He took that friendship and those conversations to heart.

He took those friendship,

those conversations and that friendship to heart.

And Micah split that right down down in the middle.

Listen, I play for your team.

You sign my checks.

But when it comes to conducting business, you're going to have to talk to my representation.

Even after whatever handshake or whatever words might have been exchanged, that's not the way contracts work.

That's not the way business works.

You were trying to undermine Micah Parsons.

You were trying to pay him not what he's worth.

Obviously, because he mentioned about what he was offering, but the offering that he was paying Micah to make him the highest paid was before TJ Watt got paid.

It was before Miles Garrett got paid.

And plus, he said, I will make you the highest paid, but you added years.

You added a year to it.

Trying to be slick.

Trying to be slick.

Miles Garrett.

Miles Garrett got four years, 160.

No, bro, I'm not going to let you do that.

I shook your hand, but I told you, call my agent, call my representative.

You won't call the representative back?

No.

You try, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

They told you, no, we don't.

You want to do a five-year plus the option.

That's six years.

Most agents want to keep that thing for plus the one because I want another black bite at this.

Now, because what once Micah contracts, once his 3136 guaranteed money, so within the first three years, he's not going to have any more guaranteed money to back in, Ocho.

So now, and plus, that means his

cap number is going to be extremely high because i get to prorate that 120 over a five-year period

so i try to try to div it up equally

but at the back end those last those last couple years old that thing gonna be high the giraffe head oh yeah oh yeah so now i come back to the table well you know hey you know six years now michael says hey i'm 26 i can get another bite at this apple at 30.

oh y'all have to see your boy at 30.

30 come on now

But

that's what I'm looking at.

I'm like, hold on.

What you mean

they talked to Deron Bland's representative?

What do you mean they talked to Jake Ferguson's representative?

What do you mean they're looking to talk to Tyler Smith's representative?

Micah just asked to talk to my representative.

No, we had a deal.

No, we didn't.

I shook your head and told you.

Call my agent.

Right.

He knew what the agent was going to say.

Oh, he know.

No, hey, wait, the supposedly the best agent in the game.

Oh, you know exactly what he was going to say.

You knew exactly.

You can't pull a fast one on the agent.

Right.

Pull a fast one on the player.

Yeah, because he's looking at Micah looking at the Ocho.

He's looking at that man, 200 million, Ocho?

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

See, it looked good.

It looked good.

But the agent, the agent got a magnifying glass.

Let me peel back some of these layers to this 200 million you're talking about.

You know?

See, I got light on.

I got light.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, we're dark in the room, boy, I can't get your feet.

I need it.

Yeah.

You know what you're going to do restaurants, Ocho?

And they hand you the menu.

I pull out my phone right quick, putting that light on it.

Look at the prices.

Damn.

Hey, it never, it never, ever

seems what they say it is.

Never.

That's why you need representation.

That's it.

Oh, Joe, I'm not saying we've seen guys, we've seen Lamar and his mom, and with the help of an NFL PA lawyer, do the contract themselves.

But they made it abundantly clear.

We're not hiring representation.

We'll do something hourly.

We'll get an NFL PA.

We saw Bobby Wagner do that.

We saw Sherm do his own contract.

Okay, if the guy says I'm doing my own contract, I got no problem with that.

You can, the owner, the general manager can work directly with the player.

You see Shay Gilgis.

Now, it's a lot easier in basketball because you either get in the max or damn near close to a max deal.

So Shay says, I'm not going to hand over 3%, 4% when I already know I'm going to get the max.

Right.

Got it.

Got it.

But in the NFL,

hey, Lamarck says, I feel I can go it alone.

That 3%, I can keep that in my pocket.

And when you're dealing with that kind of money, 3% don't seem like much.

When you start dealing $100, $200, $300 million, 3% is a damn lot of money.

A lot of money.

A whole lot of money.

So with that being said, he knew Michael had representation.

Now, he worked with everybody else's representation.

Now, if that's what I, if what I read was correct, It said he worked.

They've been working with Deron Bland's representation all offseason.

Same thing with Jake Ferguson, and they're working with Tyler Smith, trying to get something done now.

We know they work with Dak Prescott.

He's the highest paid.

He didn't do a deal directly with Dak.

He worked with Todd France, who's the CD's agent.

He worked with that.

But for some reason, I just need to know why was he so unwilling to work with David Mugaletta?

I just need somebody to explain that to me.

Also, probably understand, maybe he didn't want to pay Mike all along.

Maybe he he didn't want to pay michael all along understanding that he had other deals coming off the table like the ron bland or whatever he's getting ready to do with jake ferguson or whoever else they might pay before the season

okay

okay they would ca

yeah but but here's the thing oh joe if that's the case if you needed to stop the run if you didn't like the way micah was hurt if you don't think michael so why would you negotiate so why would you want to deal do a deal with the guy if he is not what you think he is or he's not the player so why would you even enter why would you even try to work a deal with him why not just go ahead and trade why not get a draft pick this year

because he was lying to himself or he was lying to us trying to make us believe that he's the reason yes believe like okay now he's gone well we let him go because hey we need to get better at stopping the run child please stop playing yeah you hadn't been able to stop the run for four years so what you got all those defensive tackles for

you see the problem that i have is that your defense was not built to stop the run, your offense was.

And Shannon, what do you and people?

I know chat, you're asking me, say, well, Shannon, what do you mean?

His offense was bid to get the lead, and so now his defense pinning the ears back.

They're an undersized defense.

And as long as you can keep the game close or you can get the lead, you can pound their ass.

Pause.

You can run the ball.

Because I know what y'all go.

I know y'all go, y'all are about to say some crazy stuff.

So, in other words, you can run the ball on them because they're built to play with a lead and get get pressure.

Now,

guess what?

They ain't got no lead, they have to stand up in there.

And a lot of those guys ain't got a whole lot of bricks in their back pocket.

So, when you build your off, when you build your team a certain way, well, you build your team with speed,

you need to be able to use it.

And if you got a team that wants to run the football, speed don't help you.

Nah,

at all.

So, uh,

that's that's one of the things.

Um,

And look, and people like, well, what Dak could have done.

No, if I'm Dak, I ain't doing nothing.

I'm getting all my money.

Oh, absolutely.

My job, my job.

You tell us who we're players.

Oh, Cho, what do they tell us?

He's a player.

Well, if I'm a player, my job ain't try to figure out the cap.

You figure out the cap.

You don't pay me extra work on the cap.

You pay me a salary to do what I do on the football field.

All that other stuff, it ain't my job to worry about the cap.

Well, you know, they got a cap and you can only do so.

I ain't got nothing to do with me.

You know what else?

You know what else works in favor, especially in quarterback positions, especially in Dak position?

There have been other quarterbacks that have been in great situations where the timing of when it's time for them to get paid, there's nowhere else for that team to go.

Right.

There's nowhere else for that team to go to get someone that's competent enough to come in and be quarterback number one.

So you ain't got no choice but to pay these young fellas what they owe at the time.

You ain't got no choice because there's no other option.

Right.

And plus, I'm not, first of all, I don't trust Jerry.

Jerry ain't built nothing in 30 years.

So why would I, why am I going to leave him money on the table?

Why am I going to, first of all, this is my really first big bite at the Apple.

Why am I going to give a guy that's worth $15 billion?

Why am I going to give him a discount?

Absolutely not.

Chad, let's just say for the sake of argument, you work for a company and that company is worth $20 billion.

And they say, you know what,

Charlene, we want to get Pam an HR, but it's going to cost us to go take 15,000 of your money.

Well, Charlene ain't going to be an HR because you ain't taking a dime of mine.

So, no, you don't give no billionaire, no discount.

You're a millionaire.

Now, if the next contract dat wants to be generous enough,

that's different.

That's on him.

But I feel no obligation to cut you a slack so you can.

No, no, no, no, that ain't got nothing to do with me.

Not that first one.

Not that

first one.

No, sir.

Because what Jerry say, when CBS, I don't know if if you watch this, CBS had had the broadcast right.

A lot of the other owners, CBS was losing money.

A lot of the other owners wanted to keep CBS as the broadcast partner.

Jerry said, no, we're not cutting them a deal.

We're not going to do it.

But see, Jerry refute.

Go ask CBS.

Go ask NBC.

Go ask Fox.

Go ask Amazon.

Go ask Netflix.

Did y'all get a deal with these NFL rights?

They didn't get a deal, but they expect players.

Well, Shannon, there's a cap.

What that got to do with me?

Ain't no cap on my bank account.

My bank account says as much money that'll pour in, we can take it.

That ain't got nothing to do with me.

Because teams will make as much money as they can.

Now, it's going to sound very, very interesting, Ocho.

Now, you watch with these next contracts.

Watch around 28.

Because these things come due.

They come and do, Ocho, about 20, so 20, 20, about 10 years.

Watch around 28 when they start doing it.

YouTube is going to say, Hey, we want some of this.

Uh-oh.

Netflix is going to say, Hey, man, live programming.

We want some of this.

Amazon says,

Oh, man.

Oh, man.

I see what we do.

Hey, I see what we're doing with these Thursday night games.

I see what we do with these Black Friday games.

Just imagine we get a whole package.

So that 430, that 432 is going to probably be 650.

Come 2028, 2029.

Yeah,

I'm gonna get me a little piece of that too.

Hey, so I man, please.

Yeah, we're gonna get me a little piece of that.

I need to holler at, I need to holler at Jeff.

Uh, I got a, I got a, um, I got an interview with Jeff Bezos for a

position over at Amazon.

So

I'm excited to see how that's gonna go.

All right.

The Cowboys agreed to terms with cornerback Deron Bland four years, $92 million with an extension of 50 million guaranteed.

And, OJO, he he got what 20 million at the time of signing bland average 23 million makes him the sixth highest paid corner in the league bland a one-time pro bowler the one-time all-pro uh uh from his nine interception 23 23 campaign in which he delivered a record setting five pick sixes as part of a prolific cornerback corner see uh a cornerback duo with trayvon diggs he earned it oh yeah absolutely he had off you got nick last year but his first year i think he had five picks he turned around give you a 14.

he got nick hey you believe he's your guy?

You got a little extra money stashed away since you didn't sign Micah?

Hey, we good.

They good.

I like it.

Yeah,

he definitely earned that.

I'm excited to see him back.

I'm excited to see when Trayvon, when Trayvon Diggs comes back.

I think they, they...

Defensively, I'm not sure what the Calibers are going to look like, but they're going to have some bright spots at certain positions.

I'm going to say it like that.

They're going to have some bright spots at certain positions.

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