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Speaker 14 The Giants have a demanding opening schedule playing the Commanders, Cowboy, Chiefs, and Chargers over the first four weeks of the season.

Speaker 14 The Athletic reports Russ must engineer wins against those contending to prevent head coach Brian Dayball from benching him for rookie Jackson Dart.

Speaker 14 Giants Brass has told everyone who will listen since the draft, Russell is their unquestioned starting quarterback. And the plan is first-round picks to develop behind the scenes.

Speaker 14 It sounds awful familiar to 2019. The plan was for Eli to start Daniel Jones on the bench.
Then Jones took over after an 0-2 start.

Speaker 14 And the same thing with Eli. Remember when Eli came in,

Speaker 14 Kurt Warner was supposed to be the starter. And then what happened, Ocho?

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Hey,

Speaker 16 I don't think they should rush it.

Speaker 16 I hate when the media does this. I hope the ball is patient, allowing Jackson Dart to sit back.
and learn

Speaker 16 from Russell Wilson instead of being thrown out there to the wolves. Russell Wilson has enough talent around him offensively.
They have some good pieces on defense.

Speaker 16 Well, I think they're going to be fine. They're going to be fine.
Russell Wilson, just throw Uno the ball, baby. That's it.

Speaker 14 Ocho.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 We got Commanders, Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers.

Speaker 16 Okay, well, don't throw the Cowboys out there like that. Don't throw the Cowboy name out there like that.
Like they're this four.

Speaker 14 This is a rivalry game. So, you know, they're the same division as a divisional game.

Speaker 14 So, you know, divisional games could go either way, ocho you're right you're right but hey i'm um and the commanders is another division game rivalry game really good really good chiefs chargers very unfamiliar two afc west opponents i mean dang i ain't never i don't know if i've ever heard of this you got two division opponent and then you got two fc west opponents

Speaker 14 uh but i'm not i i think and when you and i did over under i said uh i'm going under eight weeks for jackson dart he played he played two great great in the preseason and i've heard rumbling people say you should talk about preseason but i'm just saying

Speaker 16 preseason i know but i'm saying i've heard people say right hey i would just roll with jackson dart oh from from jump from the jump yeah if they were going to do that they if they were going to do that they wouldn't have brought in russell they wouldn't have had jameis i mean they i mean they there's no way there's no way because there would be no point in even bringing them in if you just run them if you running them right you didn't know you was going to be in a you didn't know you you you signed all those guys before you got jackson dart you didn't know you were were gonna be in position to get him

Speaker 14 what if what if somebody snatches him up what if somebody moves ahead of you and take him so now so i got oh joe it's kind of like you know i bought you buy something and you're like damn

Speaker 14 if i knew i was going to be able to get if i knew i was going to be able to get that at a cheaper price i wouldn't even have bought this right right

Speaker 14 so that i i believe that's what happened they didn't know they're going to be in position to get jackson dart and now all of a sudden we signed these guys in free agency. And guess what?

Speaker 14 Jackson Dart is there.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 14 Man, we can get him.

Speaker 15 You're right. Damn.

Speaker 14 Man, if I knew

Speaker 14 I could have got this new car for what I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have got these two used ones.

Speaker 14 But it's, it's, uh,

Speaker 14 I remember, I, and I remember, Ocho,

Speaker 14 how sad Eli looked

Speaker 14 standing on the sideline.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Well, because Eli has started, you have to understand, he looks sad when he's in the game. He does.
It just, just his, just as his face, his demeanor, his demeanor, you can't tell what he's uh.

Speaker 14 Well, he had, they had already broken the streak. Because remember, uh, Geno Smith when they benched it for that one game, yeah.
I say, man, that's some bullshit.

Speaker 14 How are you gonna

Speaker 14 break the man's streak for one game and then put him back in there?

Speaker 16 Yeah, they did that on purpose. I'm not, I'm not sure why.

Speaker 16 I'm not sure why.

Speaker 14 So we'll see. The over-under is eight.
Mo Lewis blames Drew Brett's Bledsoe for the hit that launched the Tom Brady era. Bledsoe had just signed a $100 million deal to be what type of quarterback?

Speaker 14 A passing quarterback. Correct.

Speaker 14 He had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball. If he had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball, we would be talking about this.
Who caused the event?

Speaker 14 The person with the ball.

Speaker 14 Now he's doing what he didn't sign up for.

Speaker 14 He signed up to be a passing quarterback what do i do stop the people with the ball it's just another play for me but it's a different play for him it's really irrelevant to me uh i was just another play to me to to to y'all it's a big game-changing history changing play i've never gone back to watch the play if people want to talk about it i don't hide from it but it's no importance to me lewis had a board of the spot license retired uh former team may say he's still slighted because i don't think so look i know mo mo and i used to work out together.

Speaker 14 He's a funny guy, but he's like, hold on. So, what y'all want me to do? The guy got the ball.
He's a passing quarterback. He's not that fast.
And then,

Speaker 14 bro, get out of bounds.

Speaker 16 Yeah, he was trying to get out of bounds.

Speaker 14 Not fast enough?

Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 16 he was headed out of bounds. He didn't get out fast enough, but it was a good hit.
It was a good hit. And obviously.

Speaker 14 Good, clean, good, clean.

Speaker 16 Good, clean hit. Drew Brees went down, and the rest was history.

Speaker 16 I mean, Drew Blessso went down, and the rest was history. Yes.
The rest was history.

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 14 go ahead.

Speaker 16 I think if he didn't go down,

Speaker 16 if Drew Blesso didn't get hurt, I think

Speaker 16 history still would have been what it was. History still would have been what it was.
But at some point, break.

Speaker 14 Tom was going to come in there.

Speaker 16 Yeah, at some point.

Speaker 14 I mean,

Speaker 14 I think it might be a very difficult situation, Ocho.

Speaker 14 You just gave a man $100 million, and then you say, well, we're going going to start this guy that we took in the sixth round.

Speaker 15 Hey, that's tough.

Speaker 16 That's tough.

Speaker 14 Now, everything that happened after they won the Super Bowl, Coach Belichick could do no wrong in Mr. Kraft's eyes.

Speaker 14 Because it seemed like every button that he pushed, coaching, coaching, coaching, coaching.

Speaker 14 And when it's going like that, look, I don't.

Speaker 14 I don't know anybody that's ever been around Mr. Kraft.
I've been around him a little bit. I like him.

Speaker 14 Been around Coach Belichick a little less. I don't have a problem with Coach Belichick, but they are very different people.

Speaker 14 They are very, very, very,

Speaker 14 very.

Speaker 14 How many times did I say very? Okay, one more time. Very different people.

Speaker 14 They are, Ocho.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 And

Speaker 14 when you got

Speaker 14 two

Speaker 14 different people, yes, sir,

Speaker 14 that's opposite of each other,

Speaker 14 Mr. Crabb looked at it like, you know what?

Speaker 14 Yeah, we different.

Speaker 14 I don't like the way he does certain things or why he talks,

Speaker 14 but I got it good.

Speaker 14 These Super Bowls keep piling up.

Speaker 14 We win the division every year. We're in the AFC championship game every other year.

Speaker 14 Yeah, I'm going to keep my mouth closed.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Hey.

Speaker 14 Because based on what he had done, Coach Belichick should have got another three, four years.

Speaker 14 If you mean to tell me this man gives you 20 years and you win 18, 19 division titles, you go to seven, you go to nine Super Bowls, you win six, you go to 10, 11 AFC championship games, and you mean to tell me you only get two years?

Speaker 14 You only get two years? So I give you 20 years of prosperity

Speaker 14 and I only get two years.

Speaker 14 One year we make the playoff, the next year. How many years did Coach Belichick coach after Brady? I'll make sure I'm with it, two or three.

Speaker 14 He drafted Mac Jones, they go to the playoffs. The next year they don't, and did they fire him after that?

Speaker 14 I think

Speaker 14 Coach Belichick didn't draft Drake May.

Speaker 14 He got two years.

Speaker 14 Cool, because Brady went to

Speaker 14 Tampa. In 2020, right?

Speaker 14 Yes.

Speaker 14 He coached four years without Brady? 2020, 2021, 22, 23. Wow, I didn't know.
Okay.

Speaker 16 He squeezed out four?

Speaker 14 He got four. Went to the playoffs the first year, right? With Mac Jones.

Speaker 15 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 16 Oh, Matt, Matt, Matt first year. Well, he was a nice boy.

Speaker 14 Mac Maya, Matt. Matt, the first year, yeah.

Speaker 16 He looked very promising. And then I don't know what happened after that.

Speaker 14 well it was the second year since brady left the first year

Speaker 14 right yeah so he got four years after brady left

Speaker 14 but he went to the playoffs the first the second year the second year after brady left the first year

Speaker 14 okay right right right right right right okay

Speaker 14 um

Speaker 14 and and i think the fae look He has started to take those swings and misses, Ocho.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Because when you got Brady, you can swing and miss. And Brady come up there and hit it over the fence.

Speaker 14 He makes up. So Brady was the greatest eraser.
So every mistake that you raid, Brady could erase it

Speaker 14 every time.

Speaker 14 And write in the correct answer.

Speaker 14 Now, the mistakes that you were making,

Speaker 14 drafting those tight ends, and they're not on the team, signing guys in free agency, and they don't cut it after the year.

Speaker 14 Mr. Crown's like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

Speaker 16 This ain't what I'm used to.

Speaker 14 No, no, no. And Ocho, you know,

Speaker 14 you get accustomed to a certain certain level of winning lifestyle yeah yeah

Speaker 16 it's hard you want to meet you want to maintain that

Speaker 14 absolutely but

Speaker 14 like i said i i don't you know mr crabs is a very religious man um not to say that coach belich not but i just don't

Speaker 14 i i wouldn't necessarily put them together if I don't see them best friends

Speaker 14 as just people, just common people. Right.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 14 And I'm not saying I don't know if owners and coaches are best friends, but

Speaker 16 strictly business.

Speaker 14 Strictly.

Speaker 14 1,000%.

Speaker 16 Yeah, two people with the same end goal, the same end goal in mind when it comes to business and football. We're trying to compete for the same thing.
But outside of the building, nothing alike.

Speaker 14 Nope. Nope.
And I'm like, Mo, man, what y'all want me to do?

Speaker 14 Y'all make it seem like like I intended to like almost kill this man. I didn't.
I just put a hit on him, just like I would anybody else that's running the football.

Speaker 14 My job is to hit people, tackle people, and go back to the huddle and do it over again.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 But it birthed the dynasty, unlike anything that we had ever seen.

Speaker 14 You probably got to go back to the Yankees in the 20s or the 50s or the 60s to find something like this.

Speaker 14 Over the period of time in which it lasted. The 60s Celtics,

Speaker 14 you know, they went eight championships in that decade

Speaker 14 where they went eight in a row. They won more, but they won eight in a row.
I mean, you got to go back to something like that. But in football,

Speaker 14 I don't think I'm going to see it in my lifetime. Now, I'm not going to live another 80 years.
Probably not going to live another 50 years. So I'm not going to see it in my lifetime.
Good luck.

Speaker 14 Somebody that's in the teenage years seeing something like what we saw from 2000 until Tom Brady left in 2020. Good luck.

Speaker 14 That's what I say. Good luck.
I mean, 2019. So good luck.

Speaker 15 Hey, you're right.

Speaker 16 And it made it, it made a and people think it's so easy. They think it's so easy because now we're seeing another great quarterback do it.
Not to that extent, but he ain't too far off.

Speaker 16 Or he's on the stage and 15 over there in Kansas City.

Speaker 14 No,

Speaker 14 it's not easy.

Speaker 14 Winning is hard in the NFL, and to win consistently is even harder. And to win consistently and then cap it off with championships is even is much harder.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 And I think sometimes, you know, it's just like anything, Ocho. You see somebody, man, man, that's easy.
Steph Curry make that look easy. That ish ain't easy.

Speaker 14 Man, that man threw the ball back. That ain't easy.

Speaker 14 They just,

Speaker 14 the greatness sometimes masks just how difficult something is.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Gretzky made hockey look easy.

Speaker 14 Usain Bolt made running look easy. Michael Phelps made swimming look easy.
Simone Biles made it look easy. Serena, it's not.

Speaker 14 That's just that they're so great, you take it for granted.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 But when you play, when you're a professional athlete, no matter the sport that you're in, and you see somebody else, another professional athlete do something and do it consistently at an extremely high level, I think you have a greater appreciation for it, Ocho, than say the normal fan.

Speaker 15 Yes.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I definitely think you have a great appreciation because you realize you understand. Because you think about it, Ocho, you think about what we put into what we do.
And we were great in our own right.

Speaker 14 But when you see Jerry or you see Tom or you see Mahomes or you see

Speaker 14 Emmett Smith or you see a Jerry Rice or you see a Joe Montana or you see a Jordan or a Larry Bird or Magic and

Speaker 14 a LeBron and a Steph Curry.

Speaker 14 You're like,

Speaker 14 damn,

Speaker 14 man.

Speaker 14 Damn.

Speaker 14 And you look at what Joe, you're like, I remember like, damn, I mean, I remember being in high school, like, damn, I'm really talented. I mean, I do stuff that just comes so easy.

Speaker 14 I mean, it's easy for me to do this.

Speaker 14 And then you see these guys, you're like,

Speaker 14 what must they have been like in high school?

Speaker 14 What was LeBron like?

Speaker 14 What was time like? What was.

Speaker 14 I think Serena was homeschooled. So I'm like, damn.

Speaker 14 You get a great appreciation for greatness.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 Because you understand it's just, and there's levels to greatness.

Speaker 14 There's levels to greatness.

Speaker 15 That it is.

Speaker 16 I think the casual fan really wouldn't understand it. The casual fan, I think those that have played the game, played the sport,

Speaker 16 can see it a little bit differently and understand what you're witnessing beforehand.

Speaker 16 Seeing Brady play, seeing Pat Mahomes,

Speaker 16 seeing stuff like that, and the dynasties and that they're creating the situations on how great certain situations are, especially when they end that Brady and Belichick era.

Speaker 16 Yeah, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid era, watching the greatness of LeBron, people not understanding, always having something negative to say, watching the greatness of LeBron for so long, not understanding how great what we're witnessing is until it's no longer there.

Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 16 it don't hit you. It ain't hit you now.
It ain't hit nobody yet. You got to wait till they're done.
Then you'll see how great Steph Curry is.

Speaker 14 Right.

Speaker 17 They don't understand yet.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 14 I mean,

Speaker 14 and there'll be other great players.

Speaker 14 And, but then you'll have a like, man, man, you remember when,

Speaker 14 man, you remember when Bron and KD? Man, you remember when Steph Curry and such and such? Just like Bird and Magic, just like Jordan and this one, Elijah Wan and Shaq.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 14 20 years from now, people will talk about KD and LeBron, Steph and LeBron,

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Speaker 14 The Miami Dolphins announced their captains for the 2025 season Monday, but there is one glaring omission.

Speaker 14 For the first time since joining the team in 2022, Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates.

Speaker 14 Reek himself suggested this offseason that he likely would not be a captain this year due to his actions at the end of the 2024 regular season when he removed himself from a game from the finale and hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere.

Speaker 14 Mike McDonald had a very revealing quote: I'm really excited about the whole voting process in general this year. The team was much more unified, and the focus was on those six guys was very clear.

Speaker 14 Those were resounding vote-getters. We were focused on giving the keys to cabinetcy to guys that had earned it each and every day.

Speaker 14 That speaks of that speaks to me the most is a football team that knows who it wants to be led by

Speaker 16 yeah that's cute

Speaker 16 that's cute it's commendable you know having your peers on your team vote you know vote as a captain yeah nope you know that'd be nice man i wanted the captaincy on my jersey that's cool but honestly for me my dolphins my dolphins and those of you in the chat i'm from liberty city born in jackson memorial hospital

Speaker 16 off 12th avenue what i care about is is my dolphins playing well in the postseason is my dolphins playing well when they play against teams that are above 500?

Speaker 16 Is my Dolphins playing well when the weather is below 50 degrees? I don't care who's carrying that seat on that goddamn chest.

Speaker 16 I just want us to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it matters most.

Speaker 16 That's it.

Speaker 16 That's it.

Speaker 14 I mean,

Speaker 14 look, there's no way.

Speaker 14 It'd have been a joke if he did what he did and he turns around the following year and needs a captain. It couldn't happen.
They weren't gonna let that happen, oh Joe.

Speaker 14 Even if he got 52 votes, he wasn't gonna be no captain. They wouldn't let that happen, oh Joe.

Speaker 14 You know that. I know that.
We know how it worked. We know

Speaker 14 who they want to be, captains. Come on, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 16 We on the same page.

Speaker 14 We here.

Speaker 14 We here.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 14 But look, look,

Speaker 14 I think Rick learned a valuable lesson. I think if he had to do it all over again, he definitely would do it a different way.
He's going through some stuff right now, uh, Rick.

Speaker 14 Uh, my heart goes, I tell you, because I think you're a phenomenal player, I absolutely do, and I know there's a that's a lot on your mind. Anybody to, you know, and being there,

Speaker 14 it's gonna be, hey, don't, don't worry, bro.

Speaker 14 It's easy to say, tell somebody not to worry about something when they're not going through it, but when you're going through it,

Speaker 14 so

Speaker 14 I mean,

Speaker 14 it's tough. Because, like, you do things and like you, you end it, Ocho.

Speaker 14 And the minute you do it, you're like, damn.

Speaker 14 But

Speaker 14 I mean, Reid was in a great situation. Yeah.
He went to Miami. That's where he wanted to go.
I mean, they could have traded him someplace else. They asked him.

Speaker 14 I mean, think, Ocho, think about this, Ocho. They ask you, where do you want to go? You want to go to the Jets or you want to go to the Dolphins?

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 They put him where he wanted to be

Speaker 14 and i get it uh when you had the season come off he led the league and receiving he was hey remember last year ocho he was the number one player voted by his peers in the top 100 yeah

Speaker 14 your quarterback gets nicked you're not the same reek people like you lost no he didn't lose it lose nothing he's just it's just that you know his quarterback got hurt he he's He's dependent on a quarterback that's injury prone.

Speaker 14 The guy's been injury prone since college. He limped into the NFL.
He's probably going to limp out of it.

Speaker 14 He had a lot of injuries

Speaker 14 when he was in Alabama, Ocho. You know, he had the tightrope surgery on his ankle.
He had the dislocated hip. He had the injury, the pinky.
He had an injury history.

Speaker 14 And guess what? He's had a concussion, or I don't know if you want to say concussions or injury, but he's had a history since he's been with the Dolphins. And Tyreek's future is tied.

Speaker 14 His success, his production is tied to a guy that's injury prone.

Speaker 14 It's kind of like, oh Joe,

Speaker 14 you

Speaker 14 relying on somebody that's unreliable to get you to work.

Speaker 14 Man.

Speaker 14 It's tough.

Speaker 14 It's tough.

Speaker 14 And then he didn't make it no better

Speaker 14 because he could have just went in there and says, I'm happy to be in Miami. It's great, great weather, great team.
But every chance he gets, he tried to take a shot at Mahomes.

Speaker 14 Oh, Tua is more this than Mahomes. Oh, this is that.
And this is. Bro, you don't need to do that.

Speaker 14 Nobody, you're not, even though you play with both, you're not going to convince anybody that Tua is a better quarterback than Mahomes. You're not.

Speaker 14 So why are you trying to do that? I believe you could, ocho, I believe you can prop one guy up without trying to put another guy down,

Speaker 14 yeah.

Speaker 16 Well, that in that situation, that's not putting a guy down because you can't put Mahomes down, especially in that comparison when it comes to the quarterback position.

Speaker 14 But

Speaker 16 I think Rick has a lot to prove this year, especially coming up from last year. Obviously, them not voting him a captain.
Boom, that's another one. Okay, y'all ain't want to vote me a captain.

Speaker 16 Okay, hold my beer. Watch this.

Speaker 16 Watch this.

Speaker 16 Ain't he finna go slap? He finna go.

Speaker 14 I hope so.

Speaker 16 He goes to slap off.

Speaker 14 Because, I mean, you know, he's a special talent.

Speaker 14 There are not very many guys that's been played in the history of the game that had his God-given ability that can take a route, that can take any route on the field.

Speaker 14 And

Speaker 14 he's a legitimate threat to hit his head on the goalpost. Now, we say that, oh, you give him a five.
No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 14 There have only been a handful of guys that can literally take any type of route that you give them

Speaker 14 and you can strike up the band.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Every time.

Speaker 14 And you see the you see, hey, you see the

Speaker 14 he's doing that, the band playing. Yeah.

Speaker 14 And Rick has that accountability. He just needs to get back to that.
And hopefully he can focus.

Speaker 14 I think being on the field, it allows you to like tunnel visual with your. Yeah.

Speaker 16 It allows you to lock.

Speaker 14 You lock in. You got to compartmentalize.

Speaker 14 That's what the really good ones are great at it.

Speaker 16 That's the one place. Doesn't matter what's going on in life.

Speaker 16 You know, once I get to that stadium, once I get to that grass,

Speaker 16 it's different. Everything else is left outside.

Speaker 14 No.

Speaker 14 No, I didn't. No, somebody said, you put

Speaker 14 Tua down to put Tyreek up. No, I just said he's not Mahomes.
He's a good quarterback. He's not Mahomes.

Speaker 14 And Tyreek's

Speaker 14 production is tied to a guy that's injury prone.

Speaker 14 Did I lie? How many concussions has he had? How many times did he get injured at the University of Alabama? I'm just giving you facts. I ain't say he wasn't a bad player.
He's a terrible player.

Speaker 14 That's not what I said. I said Tyreek's production is tied to a quarterback that's injury prone.
That's factual.

Speaker 14 That ain't no

Speaker 14 stretching the truth. That's not a lie.
That is just factually correct. Yeah.

Speaker 14 And maybe Tyreek wouldn't have 17, 1,800 yards because he got Kelsey and he got other guys. But if you go back and look at it, look at his production.
It's 1,300. It's 1,400.
It's 1,500. It's 1,300.

Speaker 14 It's 1,400. It didn't have, though, it didn't have 1,800 and then 900.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 14 You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying, OJ.

Speaker 14 Hey, I mean, you don't want to have no 1,600 one year, then 1,000. 1,200 one year, then 800.
Nah, you want to be consistently. Hey, let me be somewhere that consists.
Let me be 11 to 12, 1300.

Speaker 14 I can live with that.

Speaker 14 Now, one year, if I want to have, you know, have one of your bust out years, I give me two or three 200-yard games.

Speaker 14 I'll be on to something.

Speaker 14 But nah, I just think the thing is, and like, you know, you're emotional. Things didn't go your way.
You're like, damn, I'm going to get 100 yards.

Speaker 14 I want to continue my thousand, my thousand, you know, yard seasons, Ocho. That's going to come to an end.
Damn, we're going to miss the playoffs. That's going to come to an end.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 And he just got fussed. He got frustrated and it bubbled up.
That's all. It bubbled up.

Speaker 14 Made a mistake. He probably,

Speaker 14 and he said it. You know, I should have handled that differently.
Wish I'd have handled it differently. And, you know, lesson learned.

Speaker 14 And

Speaker 14 I believe he learned his lesson. I do.

Speaker 16 Yeah, absolutely. He's going to bounce back.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 14 But, and I think McDonald says, you know, let's not focus on who didn't make it as captain. Let's talk about the guys that did make it as captain.
They're deserving. They're the captains.

Speaker 14 That's who they want the lead. Bradley Chubb.
It's time for Chubb to come out there and, you know, play like the Chubb, like they gave up the draft picks to get him from Denver.

Speaker 14 It's time for him to play. It's time for him to show.

Speaker 14 Because it looks like, oh, Cho, they kind of taking this thing apart. They let, you know, Kalaes Campbell go.
They let Jalen Ramsey go.

Speaker 14 They let some of the, let you know they let christian wilkins go a few years ago so it seems like you know the going for it going for it going for it now they're like uh

Speaker 16 they're getting younger and younger huh

Speaker 14 getting younger and younger yeah so we'll see what how it works out for your dolphins

Speaker 14 CD Lamb denounced rumors that Micah Parsons was considered both egotistical and self-centered. That's my dog.
He knows it. I express to him just about every week I could.
So he knows.

Speaker 14 So I feel like he knows where we stand as far as the brotherhood, friendship, and all that. So obviously wishing him the best.
Hope he has the best season ever.

Speaker 14 Trayvon Diggs felt everyone in Dallas currently locker room like Micah. And he indicated that the fuel for those rumors likely came from former Cowboys.

Speaker 14 He didn't name names, but it's pretty clear Diggs was referring to DeMarcus Lawrence. I think everyone liked him.
I feel there were some former players. who are not here no more who didn't like Micah.

Speaker 14 And there's a lot of that, I would say, hate, jealousy, envy towards him because of who he is and the production that he does on the field.

Speaker 14 Imagine if you could come here, like, and you're talking like somebody shine or taking somebody's spot. You're not going to like that.

Speaker 14 They're going to feel some type of way, especially you're that type of person.

Speaker 14 Uh,

Speaker 14 the greater the person, listen,

Speaker 14 because sometimes I think people

Speaker 14 the greater the athlete,

Speaker 14 the greater the individual,

Speaker 14 the bigger the ego.

Speaker 14 Quarterbacks have the biggest ego. They do the best job of hiding it.

Speaker 14 The greater the person, the greater the player, the more accomplished the person is.

Speaker 14 So are we saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego? Are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney, Mariah ain't have no ego?

Speaker 14 Are we saying Elon Musk and

Speaker 14 whomever got no ego? So we're saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,

Speaker 14 Lawrence Taylor, Jim Brown, ain't have no ego.

Speaker 16 They all do.

Speaker 14 The greater the person,

Speaker 14 the more accomplished the person.

Speaker 16 Or successful.

Speaker 14 Yeah, all of them. Man,

Speaker 14 what we doing here?

Speaker 14 Everybody's not going to be liked. And that's okay.

Speaker 14 What you do when you get on the field, bro?

Speaker 14 As long as you ain't a jerk, long as you're not doing anything that's going to harm the locker room or call a fraction in the locker room, bro, I don't care nothing about that, bro.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 14 First of all,

Speaker 14 I ain't going to your house like that anyway.

Speaker 14 So what you do, I don't care.

Speaker 14 You leave. Look, this is my locker right here, Ocho.
This is my locker right here. Long as you don't F with nothing in my locker.
I don't give a damn what you do.

Speaker 14 I ain't messing with nothing in your locker. You got a job to do.
I got a job job to do.

Speaker 14 We don't have to be friends.

Speaker 14 We can be friendly.

Speaker 14 Yeah. Two different things, OJo.

Speaker 16 I mean, it's a locker room, huh? You got 53 people. You got 53 people.
Everybody's not going to get along.

Speaker 14 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Everybody's not going to get along. You're going to have egos.

Speaker 16 You're going to have people with pride. You're going to have to have jealousy.
You know?

Speaker 16 And it's just, it's always, it's always been a part of sports. It's always been a part part of locker rooms.
It's always been a part of teens in general. You're not going to like everybody.

Speaker 14 Nope.

Speaker 16 You're not there. This is not a liking contest.
You're there for one job.

Speaker 14 Do your job.

Speaker 14 I like you more if you do your job good.

Speaker 14 I like you even more.

Speaker 14 But

Speaker 14 look, look, I don't, you know,

Speaker 14 clearly CD and

Speaker 14 digs

Speaker 14 has a fondness to

Speaker 14 with Micah. I've been around him a little bit.
I don't have no problem with Micah. Never had a problem with him.
He's a funny, funny dude.

Speaker 16 That's why

Speaker 16 hearing anything come up about ego,

Speaker 16 especially when it comes to him,

Speaker 16 he's a funny guy. He's young.
You know,

Speaker 16 it's weird. It's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves.

Speaker 14 We knew that was going to happen.

Speaker 15 Funny how that works.

Speaker 14 You know, you ever notice

Speaker 14 the guy was a, oh, he was a problem on the job. 15 for 20 years.
Ain't nobody say nothing. The moment somebody leaves, yeah, yeah, he was a problem.

Speaker 16 Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job, too.

Speaker 14 Yes.

Speaker 16 Let's add that.

Speaker 14 Ocho, Vegas has Lamar Jackson at the back. He's back on top for the MVP odds.
The reigning MVP, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow are hairs beneath him at plus 600.

Speaker 14 Patrick Mahomes rounding out the top four at plus 650.

Speaker 14 Is this the year? Lamar puts it all together, wins MVP and

Speaker 14 a Super Bowl.

Speaker 16 I mean, it could be the year. It could be the year.

Speaker 16 If it was going to happen,

Speaker 16 this is the funny thing

Speaker 16 when it comes to not just Lamar Jackson, but Josh Allen and all those other quarterbacks in the AFC. It's always going to.

Speaker 16 It's going to be the same four.

Speaker 16 Same four. Now, what Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs?

Speaker 16 What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs? That's all that matters. So we know what he's going to do in the regular season.
Yes. We're going to put up crazy numbers.
Yes.

Speaker 16 We're going to rush for crazy numbers. But what Lamar Jackson, whatever Lamar Jackson we get in the postseason, that will be if those odds in Vegas come true.
That's all it come down to.

Speaker 14 And that's all I've said. I said, I want to see the Lamar Jackson that's won the MVP or finish second.
We have yet to see that guy for the totality of the playoffs we've seen it for a game ocho

Speaker 14 but we need to see it for the totality because we saw it last year they didn't turn the ball over he didn't turn the ball over for like eight nine games right and then he had two big turnovers and that was you know some of that's undoing like look and i get it such a hold on to the ball uh uh zay flowers fumbled on the one but he did give the he did give uh uh

Speaker 14 the Chiefs a short field. He got stripped in the pocket.

Speaker 14 I just need Lamar to be Lamar in the postseason that he was in the regular season. I don't need anything else.
I don't need to be, I don't need anything else, Ocho.

Speaker 14 I don't need him to be anything other

Speaker 14 than what he's shown us for

Speaker 14 the 17 games in the regular season. If he's that,

Speaker 14 if he's that player, can nobody beat the Ravens? Nobody.

Speaker 15 Nah.

Speaker 16 Well, I don't know about nobody.

Speaker 14 Ocho, the man threw 41 touchdowns with four picks.

Speaker 15 Hold on, hold on, huh, man.

Speaker 15 Don't jump on me.

Speaker 16 Don't jump on me.

Speaker 16 This is a new season. With everything you just named, it's what he did last year.
Now, I'm not saying he can't repeat it, but there's a team he has to deal with in the AFC North.

Speaker 14 They own y'all.

Speaker 16 Come again.

Speaker 14 They own y'all. Lamar Jackson owned the Cincinnati Bengal.

Speaker 16 Let me do something. Is the Ravens that's your team, huh? Or your supposed to be team that you spent two weeks at?

Speaker 14 Two years.

Speaker 16 Okay, two years, two weeks. It's all the same.

Speaker 16 You want to best sum on that game?

Speaker 14 Oh, Joe, it's kind of hard for you to borrow money when you owe money.

Speaker 15 Huh?

Speaker 16 Oh, you know, I'm hey, listen, I'm good for it.

Speaker 14 Like, when I go to the casino, you ain't good for it.

Speaker 16 Hey, when I go to the casino, they just hand, they just give me what I want because they understand. Oh, oh, Joe, you here? Oh, we know you, we know we're gonna take care of you.

Speaker 16 What you need, yeah, we should push your money line.

Speaker 14 I will file a whatcha column on you.

Speaker 14 I'll press charges on you.

Speaker 16 I ain't do nothing. How are you gonna press charges?

Speaker 14 You'll be $5,900 and you won't pay.

Speaker 15 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 16 Is it written on paper?

Speaker 14 They heard it. Oh, yeah, they got it.
We got it on paper.

Speaker 16 I didn't sign nothing.

Speaker 14 You ain't got to sign it. We got it.
We got a verbal contract. You bet me.

Speaker 16 A verbal contract. Yeah, Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones had a verbal contract, too.

Speaker 14 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We got this.
I showed a tape. What is it? Y'all, here it is right here.
This is

Speaker 14 yo i bet you

Speaker 14 johnny we're gonna get you out of here on this one this clip from your glory days podcast has gone viral let's show the chat

Speaker 25 in my draft the browns had two picks with the sixth pick we took justin gilbert from oklahoma state oh yeah and i get the most wave of

Speaker 25 for being a bust in this and that. I wasn't even the biggest f ⁇ ing, and respect to Justin Gilbert.
I love him as a human being, but we both flamed out. We both struggled.

Speaker 14 14, 15, 16 picks before me.

Speaker 25 So, like, I'm not even the biggest bust in my class from the Browns.

Speaker 14 Damn, Johnny.

Speaker 17 I was feeling some type of way that day.

Speaker 14 Clearly, clearly. You're like, hello, y'all killing me, but look at what about the guy that went top 10?

Speaker 17 I mean, I wanted to be in that pick.

Speaker 14 Like, that's what we were talking about going to Cleveland.

Speaker 15 I wanted to go to Cleveland at six.

Speaker 14 I wanted to go to Cleveland at four, whatever the pick was.

Speaker 17 Like, if you're going to send me to Ohio, at least send me with 20 million instead of eight.

Speaker 15 Like, what the fuck?

Speaker 14 Damn.

Speaker 14 I'll love the Dustin Gilbert.

Speaker 17 Look, I think, you know, from a Browns. draft perspective from that year, you know, Joel Battonio is still playing and doing well for Cleveland right now, but

Speaker 17 all-around miss. You know, I think I will always be looked at and viewed at because of how much hype and,

Speaker 17 you know, media and everything that was around me and the city of Cleveland expecting me to be great and that ultimately not panning out.

Speaker 17 Listen, you know, I sit here today and I go back and forth with, man, am I going to let Cleveland off the hook and just like let it go?

Speaker 17 Or am I going to sit here with hate and animosity in my heart for the rest of my life? and i finally sit here today i'm like it i think i'm going to be pissed at them and hate them forever so

Speaker 14 it is what it is man um no no love for the browns i i'm rooting for 0-16 seasons every season damn john let me ask you this as you sit here today And after all the things you've gone through, we sat down a little over a year ago and we had a conversation, had a great conversation.

Speaker 14 And I think a lot of people got an opportunity to see you in a different light. Knowing what you know now,

Speaker 14 you're back in that situation, but you know what you know now. What would you have done differently? Would you have done anything different leading up to the draft?

Speaker 14 Would you have done anything different in college? What are some of the things that Johnny would have done differently to make sure this outcome that we're talking about never happens?

Speaker 17 Look, there was a moment in time, and we spoke about it on the podcast, was,

Speaker 17 you know, after that Oklahoma Cotton Bowl game, you know, things changed for me. And I went from Johnny Manzel to Johnny football.

Speaker 17 And like looking back on it now, people ask me if you could go back in time and do it differently there is that split moment in time like in the locker room after that game where my focus would have shifted to let's get to national championship the next year let's get to san diego and start training again and like get ready and geared up for this season because we got mike evans returning we got a bunch of guys on this team who can come back and make a real run and that's one thing that just never sits right with me to this day um just like the untapped potential of the whole thing and the the real opportunity.

Speaker 17 If I want to see Texas A ⁇ M win a national championship, well, that was a real, real opportunity for us.

Speaker 17 And it just didn't come to fruition. And, you know, I sit here today and a lot of people will hear me speak.

Speaker 17 And as I tell stories and, you know, I'm doing the podcasting stuff, you know, people will always be like, you know, I'm blaming stuff on other people or I'm not accountable or anything like that.

Speaker 17 But listen, at the end of the day, everything that I've got in my life and that's happened to me throughout my football career is only because of one person, myself, and the decisions that I've made as a man in this life.

Speaker 17 So

Speaker 17 was Cleveland the best situation for me to go to? Did they help me knowing all the things that they knew about me with all the research and everything? Did they put me in the best situation?

Speaker 15 Absolutely not.

Speaker 17 It was not the right situation for me. But when it comes down to it, you take all of that aside, you throw it away and you look in the mirror and you say, I've let an amazing amazing opportunity slip.

Speaker 17 It's on me. I'm the one that has to sit with myself every single night as I watch college football or watch NFL football and be like, damn, I would be in my 12th year.
I would be X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 17 I'm the one that has to lay my pillow down, lay my head on the pillow every night and be like, that coulda, woulda, shoulda, but it wasn't.

Speaker 17 And at the end of the day, A lot of my life as I've been out of football has been like, what am I going to be able to do to find a spark, to be able to be happy, to be able to give me something like football did give me?

Speaker 17 And you know what? Maybe it wasn't meant to be for me. I didn't put in the time and the effort and determination that you need to be great that both of you guys did for the sport.

Speaker 17 And that was just maybe my stupidity, my youth, or what it was meant to be. But nevertheless, you know, I take accountability for everything and what it is.

Speaker 17 You know, I really didn't harm anybody other than myself when it's all said and done. So,

Speaker 17 you know, we're still sitting here today, rocking, rolling, happy.

Speaker 17 And we're on the nightcap show now, baby, every Saturday.

Speaker 15 Let's go.

Speaker 14 That's what I'm talking about. Johnny, did it come too easy?

Speaker 14 Did football come too easy to you? You look at what you did. You went down to Tuscaloosa and you became a household name.

Speaker 14 Everybody knew who you were after you went in there and did what you did to Coach Saban. Did football come too easy for you after that?

Speaker 17 Man, I don't know. I think I started to, you start to get a little bit of ego on the football field, right?

Speaker 17 You start to see what you're doing in practice and how you're playing and like making certain throws and the scrambling where you like, you're just doing certain things that are just like jumping off the page and you're noticing them too.

Speaker 17 So it gives you a, it gives you a bravado and a confidence.

Speaker 17 And when people on a college football field, you know, I think this is why I wanted to go to the NFL so bad because as I'm going and playing on Saturdays, I'm like, these dudes can't fuck with me.

Speaker 17 They really can't. They want to.
And even guys who are good from opposing teams, you'll come up to each other after the game and they'll be like, damn,

Speaker 17 you're everything we thought you were going to be. You're cold.
So as you're getting respect from your peers on this level, too, it does heighten your sense.

Speaker 17 It does give you a sense of ego and bravado. And,

Speaker 17 you know, you add the social media wave.

Speaker 17 And, you know, at that point in time, Sports Center every single night and you're taking over the world. You know, it does make you feel invincible.

Speaker 17 So I know there was a lot of hard work that went into everything that happened.

Speaker 17 And the reason that I played as well as I did on the field is because I did work my ass off from the time I was in high school to college and it all played itself out.

Speaker 17 I think you start to see the down, you know, the downslide and everything else when the hard work takes itself out.

Speaker 17 So, you know, that's what I always tell kids nowadays who ask me and look at my story and look at everything. It's like, listen, I had all the talent in the world.

Speaker 17 You can go run a go route, put your hand up and have a guy draped over you. I'll drop it in the bucket.

Speaker 17 You can go meet me in the A gap and really think you have me covered or tackle, and I'll mix you out of your shoes.

Speaker 15 But when it comes down to it,

Speaker 17 you've got to work hard and you got to consistently do it day in and day out, even when you don't want to. And if you don't want to do it, guess what?

Speaker 17 There's somebody right next door or somewhere else that wants to take your spot and wants to trade places with you. And look what happened to me.

Speaker 17 You know, the NFL is a game where you get replaced like this.

Speaker 14 Johnny, thanks for joining us tonight. Welcome to the team.
Make sure you go subscribe to Johnny's podcast on YouTube, Glory Days with Johnny Manzel. Johnny, thank you for joining us, man.

Speaker 14 We'll see you next week, bro. Have a good time.
Enjoy. Thanks, boys.

Speaker 16 See you next week.

Speaker 15 Much love.