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Giants Brass has told everyone who will listen since the draft, Russell is their unquestioned starting quarterback.

And the plan is first-round picks to develop behind the scenes.

It sounds awful familiar to 2019.

The plan was for Eli to start Daniel Jones on the bench.

Then Jones took over after an 0-2 start.

And the same thing with Eli.

Remember when Eli came in,

Kurt Warner was supposed to be the starter.

And then what happened, Ocho?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey,

I don't think they should rush it.

I hate when the media does this.

I hope the ball is patient, allowing Jackson Dart to sit back.

and learn

from Russell Wilson instead of being thrown out there to the wolves.

Russell Wilson has enough talent around him offensively.

They have some good pieces on defense.

Well, I think they're going to be fine.

They're going to be fine.

Russell Wilson, just throw Uno the ball, baby.

That's it.

Ocho.

Yeah.

We got Commanders, Cowboys, Chiefs, Chargers.

Okay, well, don't throw the Cowboys out there like that.

Don't throw the Cowboy name out there like that.

Like they're this four.

This is a rivalry game.

So, you know, they're the same division as a divisional game.

So, you know, divisional games could go either way, ocho you're right you're right but hey i'm um and the commanders is another division game rivalry game really good really good chiefs chargers very unfamiliar two afc west opponents i mean dang i ain't never i don't know if i've ever heard of this you got two division opponent and then you got two fc west opponents

uh but i'm not i i think and when you and i did over under i said uh i'm going under eight weeks for jackson dart he played he played two great great in the preseason and i've heard rumbling people say you should talk about preseason but i'm just saying

preseason i know but i'm saying i've heard people say right hey i would just roll with jackson dart oh from from jump from the jump yeah if they were going to do that they if they were going to do that they wouldn't have brought in russell they wouldn't have had jameis i mean they i mean they there's no way there's no way because there would be no point in even bringing them in if you just run them if you running them right you didn't know you was going to be in a you didn't know you you you signed all those guys before you got jackson dart you didn't know you were were gonna be in position to get him

what if what if somebody snatches him up what if somebody moves ahead of you and take him so now so i got oh joe it's kind of like you know i bought you buy something and you're like damn

if i knew i was going to be able to get if i knew i was going to be able to get that at a cheaper price i wouldn't even have bought this right right

so that i i believe that's what happened they didn't know they're going to be in position to get jackson dart and now all of a sudden we signed these guys in free agency.

And guess what?

Jackson Dart is there.

Right.

Man, we can get him.

You're right.

Damn.

Man, if I knew

I could have got this new car for what I wouldn't have, I wouldn't have got these two used ones.

But it's, it's, uh,

I remember, I, and I remember, Ocho,

how sad Eli looked

standing on the sideline.

Yeah.

Well, because Eli has started, you have to understand, he looks sad when he's in the game.

He does.

It just, just his, just as his face, his demeanor, his demeanor, you can't tell what he's uh.

Well, he had, they had already broken the streak.

Because remember, uh, Geno Smith when they benched it for that one game, yeah.

I say, man, that's some bullshit.

How are you gonna

break the man's streak for one game and then put him back in there?

Yeah, they did that on purpose.

I'm not, I'm not sure why.

I'm not sure why.

So we'll see.

The over-under is eight.

Mo Lewis blames Drew Brett's Bledsoe for the hit that launched the Tom Brady era.

Bledsoe had just signed a $100 million deal to be what type of quarterback?

A passing quarterback.

Correct.

He had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball.

If he had not gotten outside the pocket and ran with the ball, we would be talking about this.

Who caused the event?

The person with the ball.

Now he's doing what he didn't sign up for.

He signed up to be a passing quarterback what do i do stop the people with the ball it's just another play for me but it's a different play for him it's really irrelevant to me uh i was just another play to me to to to y'all it's a big game-changing history changing play i've never gone back to watch the play if people want to talk about it i don't hide from it but it's no importance to me lewis had a board of the spot license retired uh former team may say he's still slighted because i don't think so look i know mo mo and i used to work out together.

He's a funny guy, but he's like, hold on.

So, what y'all want me to do?

The guy got the ball.

He's a passing quarterback.

He's not that fast.

And then,

bro, get out of bounds.

Yeah, he was trying to get out of bounds.

Not fast enough?

Yeah,

he was headed out of bounds.

He didn't get out fast enough, but it was a good hit.

It was a good hit.

And obviously.

Good, clean, good, clean.

Good, clean hit.

Drew Brees went down, and the rest was history.

I mean, Drew Blessso went down, and the rest was history.

Yes.

The rest was history.

So

go ahead.

I think if he didn't go down,

if Drew Blesso didn't get hurt, I think

history still would have been what it was.

History still would have been what it was.

But at some point, break.

Tom was going to come in there.

Yeah, at some point.

I mean,

I think it might be a very difficult situation, Ocho.

You just gave a man $100 million, and then you say, well, we're going going to start this guy that we took in the sixth round.

Hey, that's tough.

That's tough.

Now, everything that happened after they won the Super Bowl, Coach Belichick could do no wrong in Mr.

Kraft's eyes.

Because it seemed like every button that he pushed, coaching, coaching, coaching, coaching.

And when it's going like that, look, I don't.

I don't know anybody that's ever been around Mr.

Kraft.

I've been around him a little bit.

I like him.

Been around Coach Belichick a little less.

I don't have a problem with Coach Belichick, but they are very different people.

They are very, very, very,

very.

How many times did I say very?

Okay, one more time.

Very different people.

They are, Ocho.

Yeah.

And

when you got

two

different people, yes, sir,

that's opposite of each other,

Mr.

Crabb looked at it like, you know what?

Yeah, we different.

I don't like the way he does certain things or why he talks,

but I got it good.

These Super Bowls keep piling up.

We win the division every year.

We're in the AFC championship game every other year.

Yeah, I'm going to keep my mouth closed.

Yeah.

Hey.

Because based on what he had done, Coach Belichick should have got another three, four years.

If you mean to tell me this man gives you 20 years and you win 18, 19 division titles, you go to seven, you go to nine Super Bowls, you win six, you go to 10, 11 AFC championship games, and you mean to tell me you only get two years?

You only get two years?

So I give you 20 years of prosperity

and I only get two years.

One year we make the playoff, the next year.

How many years did Coach Belichick coach after Brady?

I'll make sure I'm with it, two or three.

He drafted Mac Jones, they go to the playoffs.

The next year they don't, and did they fire him after that?

I think

Coach Belichick didn't draft Drake May.

He got two years.

Cool, because Brady went to

Tampa.

In 2020, right?

Yes.

He coached four years without Brady?

2020, 2021, 22, 23.

Wow, I didn't know.

Okay.

He squeezed out four?

He got four.

Went to the playoffs the first year, right?

With Mac Jones.

Mm-hmm.

Oh, Matt, Matt, Matt first year.

Well, he was a nice boy.

Mac Maya, Matt.

Matt, the first year, yeah.

He looked very promising.

And then I don't know what happened after that.

well it was the second year since brady left the first year

right yeah so he got four years after brady left

but he went to the playoffs the first the second year the second year after brady left the first year

okay right right right right right right okay

um

and and i think the fae look He has started to take those swings and misses, Ocho.

Yeah.

Because when you got Brady, you can swing and miss.

And Brady come up there and hit it over the fence.

He makes up.

So Brady was the greatest eraser.

So every mistake that you raid, Brady could erase it

every time.

And write in the correct answer.

Now, the mistakes that you were making,

drafting those tight ends, and they're not on the team, signing guys in free agency, and they don't cut it after the year.

Mr.

Crown's like, whoa, whoa, wait a minute.

This ain't what I'm used to.

No, no, no.

And Ocho, you know,

you get accustomed to a certain certain level of winning lifestyle yeah yeah

it's hard you want to meet you want to maintain that

absolutely but

like i said i i don't you know mr crabs is a very religious man um not to say that coach belich not but i just don't

i i wouldn't necessarily put them together if I don't see them best friends

as just people, just common people.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

And I'm not saying I don't know if owners and coaches are best friends, but

strictly business.

Strictly.

1,000%.

Yeah, two people with the same end goal, the same end goal in mind when it comes to business and football.

We're trying to compete for the same thing.

But outside of the building, nothing alike.

Nope.

Nope.

And I'm like, Mo, man, what y'all want me to do?

Y'all make it seem like like I intended to like almost kill this man.

I didn't.

I just put a hit on him, just like I would anybody else that's running the football.

My job is to hit people, tackle people, and go back to the huddle and do it over again.

Yeah.

But it birthed the dynasty, unlike anything that we had ever seen.

You probably got to go back to the Yankees in the 20s or the 50s or the 60s to find something like this.

Over the period of time in which it lasted.

The 60s Celtics,

you know, they went eight championships in that decade

where they went eight in a row.

They won more, but they won eight in a row.

I mean, you got to go back to something like that.

But in football,

I don't think I'm going to see it in my lifetime.

Now, I'm not going to live another 80 years.

Probably not going to live another 50 years.

So I'm not going to see it in my lifetime.

Good luck.

Somebody that's in the teenage years seeing something like what we saw from 2000 until Tom Brady left in 2020.

Good luck.

That's what I say.

Good luck.

I mean, 2019.

So good luck.

Hey, you're right.

And it made it, it made a and people think it's so easy.

They think it's so easy because now we're seeing another great quarterback do it.

Not to that extent, but he ain't too far off.

Or he's on the stage and 15 over there in Kansas City.

No,

it's not easy.

Winning is hard in the NFL, and to win consistently is even harder.

And to win consistently and then cap it off with championships is even is much harder.

Yeah.

And I think sometimes, you know, it's just like anything, Ocho.

You see somebody, man, man, that's easy.

Steph Curry make that look easy.

That ish ain't easy.

Man, that man threw the ball back.

That ain't easy.

They just,

the greatness sometimes masks just how difficult something is.

Yeah.

Gretzky made hockey look easy.

Usain Bolt made running look easy.

Michael Phelps made swimming look easy.

Simone Biles made it look easy.

Serena, it's not.

That's just that they're so great, you take it for granted.

Yeah.

But when you play, when you're a professional athlete, no matter the sport that you're in, and you see somebody else, another professional athlete do something and do it consistently at an extremely high level, I think you have a greater appreciation for it, Ocho, than say the normal fan.

Yes.

Yeah.

I definitely think you have a great appreciation because you realize you understand.

Because you think about it, Ocho, you think about what we put into what we do.

And we were great in our own right.

But when you see Jerry or you see Tom or you see Mahomes or you see

Emmett Smith or you see a Jerry Rice or you see a Joe Montana or you see a Jordan or a Larry Bird or Magic and

a LeBron and a Steph Curry.

You're like,

damn,

man.

Damn.

And you look at what Joe, you're like, I remember like, damn, I mean, I remember being in high school, like, damn, I'm really talented.

I mean, I do stuff that just comes so easy.

I mean, it's easy for me to do this.

And then you see these guys, you're like,

what must they have been like in high school?

What was LeBron like?

What was time like?

What was.

I think Serena was homeschooled.

So I'm like, damn.

You get a great appreciation for greatness.

Yeah.

Because you understand it's just, and there's levels to greatness.

There's levels to greatness.

That it is.

I think the casual fan really wouldn't understand it.

The casual fan, I think those that have played the game, played the sport,

can see it a little bit differently and understand what you're witnessing beforehand.

Seeing Brady play, seeing Pat Mahomes,

seeing stuff like that, and the dynasties and that they're creating the situations on how great certain situations are, especially when they end that Brady and Belichick era.

Yeah, Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid era, watching the greatness of LeBron, people not understanding, always having something negative to say, watching the greatness of LeBron for so long, not understanding how great what we're witnessing is until it's no longer there.

Yeah,

it don't hit you.

It ain't hit you now.

It ain't hit nobody yet.

You got to wait till they're done.

Then you'll see how great Steph Curry is.

Right.

They don't understand yet.

Yeah.

I mean,

and there'll be other great players.

And, but then you'll have a like, man, man, you remember when,

man, you remember when Bron and KD?

Man, you remember when Steph Curry and such and such?

Just like Bird and Magic, just like Jordan and this one, Elijah Wan and Shaq.

Right.

20 years from now, people will talk about KD and LeBron, Steph and LeBron,

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For the first time since joining the team in 2022, Tyreek Hill was not voted a captain by his teammates.

Reek himself suggested this offseason that he likely would not be a captain this year due to his actions at the end of the 2024 regular season when he removed himself from a game from the finale and hinted after the game that he wanted to play elsewhere.

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The team was much more unified, and the focus was on those six guys was very clear.

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That speaks of that speaks to me the most is a football team that knows who it wants to be led by

yeah that's cute

that's cute it's commendable you know having your peers on your team vote you know vote as a captain yeah nope you know that'd be nice man i wanted the captaincy on my jersey that's cool but honestly for me my dolphins my dolphins and those of you in the chat i'm from liberty city born in jackson memorial hospital

off 12th avenue what i care about is is my dolphins playing well in the postseason is my dolphins playing well when they play against teams that are above 500?

Is my Dolphins playing well when the weather is below 50 degrees?

I don't care who's carrying that seat on that goddamn chest.

I just want us to be able to execute offensively and defensively when it matters most.

That's it.

That's it.

I mean,

look, there's no way.

It'd have been a joke if he did what he did and he turns around the following year and needs a captain.

It couldn't happen.

They weren't gonna let that happen, oh Joe.

Even if he got 52 votes, he wasn't gonna be no captain.

They wouldn't let that happen, oh Joe.

You know that.

I know that.

We know how it worked.

We know

who they want to be, captains.

Come on, okay, okay, okay, okay.

We on the same page.

We here.

We here.

Yeah.

But look, look,

I think Rick learned a valuable lesson.

I think if he had to do it all over again, he definitely would do it a different way.

He's going through some stuff right now, uh, Rick.

Uh, my heart goes, I tell you, because I think you're a phenomenal player, I absolutely do, and I know there's a that's a lot on your mind.

Anybody to, you know, and being there,

it's gonna be, hey, don't, don't worry, bro.

It's easy to say, tell somebody not to worry about something when they're not going through it, but when you're going through it,

so

I mean,

it's tough.

Because, like, you do things and like you, you end it, Ocho.

And the minute you do it, you're like, damn.

But

I mean, Reid was in a great situation.

Yeah.

He went to Miami.

That's where he wanted to go.

I mean, they could have traded him someplace else.

They asked him.

I mean, think, Ocho, think about this, Ocho.

They ask you, where do you want to go?

You want to go to the Jets or you want to go to the Dolphins?

Yeah.

They put him where he wanted to be

and i get it uh when you had the season come off he led the league and receiving he was hey remember last year ocho he was the number one player voted by his peers in the top 100 yeah

your quarterback gets nicked you're not the same reek people like you lost no he didn't lose it lose nothing he's just it's just that you know his quarterback got hurt he he's He's dependent on a quarterback that's injury prone.

The guy's been injury prone since college.

He limped into the NFL.

He's probably going to limp out of it.

He had a lot of injuries

when he was in Alabama, Ocho.

You know, he had the tightrope surgery on his ankle.

He had the dislocated hip.

He had the injury, the pinky.

He had an injury history.

And guess what?

He's had a concussion, or I don't know if you want to say concussions or injury, but he's had a history since he's been with the Dolphins.

And Tyreek's future is tied.

His success, his production is tied to a guy that's injury prone.

It's kind of like, oh Joe,

you

relying on somebody that's unreliable to get you to work.

Man.

It's tough.

It's tough.

And then he didn't make it no better

because he could have just went in there and says, I'm happy to be in Miami.

It's great, great weather, great team.

But every chance he gets, he tried to take a shot at Mahomes.

Oh, Tua is more this than Mahomes.

Oh, this is that.

And this is.

Bro, you don't need to do that.

Nobody, you're not, even though you play with both, you're not going to convince anybody that Tua is a better quarterback than Mahomes.

You're not.

So why are you trying to do that?

I believe you could, ocho, I believe you can prop one guy up without trying to put another guy down,

yeah.

Well, that in that situation, that's not putting a guy down because you can't put Mahomes down, especially in that comparison when it comes to the quarterback position.

But

I think Rick has a lot to prove this year, especially coming up from last year.

Obviously, them not voting him a captain.

Boom, that's another one.

Okay, y'all ain't want to vote me a captain.

Okay, hold my beer.

Watch this.

Watch this.

Ain't he finna go slap?

He finna go.

I hope so.

He goes to slap off.

Because, I mean, you know, he's a special talent.

There are not very many guys that's been played in the history of the game that had his God-given ability that can take a route, that can take any route on the field.

And

he's a legitimate threat to hit his head on the goalpost.

Now, we say that, oh, you give him a five.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

There have only been a handful of guys that can literally take any type of route that you give them

and you can strike up the band.

Yeah.

Every time.

And you see the you see, hey, you see the

he's doing that, the band playing.

Yeah.

And Rick has that accountability.

He just needs to get back to that.

And hopefully he can focus.

I think being on the field, it allows you to like tunnel visual with your.

Yeah.

It allows you to lock.

You lock in.

You got to compartmentalize.

That's what the really good ones are great at it.

That's the one place.

Doesn't matter what's going on in life.

You know, once I get to that stadium, once I get to that grass,

it's different.

Everything else is left outside.

No.

No, I didn't.

No, somebody said, you put

Tua down to put Tyreek up.

No, I just said he's not Mahomes.

He's a good quarterback.

He's not Mahomes.

And Tyreek's

production is tied to a guy that's injury prone.

Did I lie?

How many concussions has he had?

How many times did he get injured at the University of Alabama?

I'm just giving you facts.

I ain't say he wasn't a bad player.

He's a terrible player.

That's not what I said.

I said Tyreek's production is tied to a quarterback that's injury prone.

That's factual.

That ain't no

stretching the truth.

That's not a lie.

That is just factually correct.

Yeah.

And maybe Tyreek wouldn't have 17, 1,800 yards because he got Kelsey and he got other guys.

But if you go back and look at it, look at his production.

It's 1,300.

It's 1,400.

It's 1,500.

It's 1,300.

It's 1,400.

It didn't have, though, it didn't have 1,800 and then 900.

Right.

You know what I'm saying?

That's what I'm saying, OJ.

Hey, I mean, you don't want to have no 1,600 one year, then 1,000.

1,200 one year, then 800.

Nah, you want to be consistently.

Hey, let me be somewhere that consists.

Let me be 11 to 12, 1300.

I can live with that.

Now, one year, if I want to have, you know, have one of your bust out years, I give me two or three 200-yard games.

I'll be on to something.

But nah, I just think the thing is, and like, you know, you're emotional.

Things didn't go your way.

You're like, damn, I'm going to get 100 yards.

I want to continue my thousand, my thousand, you know, yard seasons, Ocho.

That's going to come to an end.

Damn, we're going to miss the playoffs.

That's going to come to an end.

Yeah.

And he just got fussed.

He got frustrated and it bubbled up.

That's all.

It bubbled up.

Made a mistake.

He probably,

and he said it.

You know, I should have handled that differently.

Wish I'd have handled it differently.

And, you know, lesson learned.

And

I believe he learned his lesson.

I do.

Yeah, absolutely.

He's going to bounce back.

Yeah.

But, and I think McDonald says, you know, let's not focus on who didn't make it as captain.

Let's talk about the guys that did make it as captain.

They're deserving.

They're the captains.

That's who they want the lead.

Bradley Chubb.

It's time for Chubb to come out there and, you know, play like the Chubb, like they gave up the draft picks to get him from Denver.

It's time for him to play.

It's time for him to show.

Because it looks like, oh, Cho, they kind of taking this thing apart.

They let, you know, Kalaes Campbell go.

They let Jalen Ramsey go.

They let some of the, let you know they let christian wilkins go a few years ago so it seems like you know the going for it going for it going for it now they're like uh

they're getting younger and younger huh

getting younger and younger yeah so we'll see what how it works out for your dolphins

CD Lamb denounced rumors that Micah Parsons was considered both egotistical and self-centered.

That's my dog.

He knows it.

I express to him just about every week I could.

So he knows.

So I feel like he knows where we stand as far as the brotherhood, friendship, and all that.

So obviously wishing him the best.

Hope he has the best season ever.

Trayvon Diggs felt everyone in Dallas currently locker room like Micah.

And he indicated that the fuel for those rumors likely came from former Cowboys.

He didn't name names, but it's pretty clear Diggs was referring to DeMarcus Lawrence.

I think everyone liked him.

I feel there were some former players.

who are not here no more who didn't like Micah.

And there's a lot of that, I would say, hate, jealousy, envy towards him because of who he is and the production that he does on the field.

Imagine if you could come here, like, and you're talking like somebody shine or taking somebody's spot.

You're not going to like that.

They're going to feel some type of way, especially you're that type of person.

Uh,

the greater the person, listen,

because sometimes I think people

the greater the athlete,

the greater the individual,

the bigger the ego.

Quarterbacks have the biggest ego.

They do the best job of hiding it.

The greater the person, the greater the player, the more accomplished the person is.

So are we saying that Beyonce and Taylor Swift ain't got no ego?

Are we saying Drake, Michael Jackson, Whitney, Mariah ain't have no ego?

Are we saying Elon Musk and

whomever got no ego?

So we're saying Tom Brady, Peyton Manning,

Lawrence Taylor, Jim Brown, ain't have no ego.

They all do.

The greater the person,

the more accomplished the person.

Or successful.

Yeah, all of them.

Man,

what we doing here?

Everybody's not going to be liked.

And that's okay.

What you do when you get on the field, bro?

As long as you ain't a jerk, long as you're not doing anything that's going to harm the locker room or call a fraction in the locker room, bro, I don't care nothing about that, bro.

Yeah.

First of all,

I ain't going to your house like that anyway.

So what you do, I don't care.

You leave.

Look, this is my locker right here, Ocho.

This is my locker right here.

Long as you don't F with nothing in my locker.

I don't give a damn what you do.

I ain't messing with nothing in your locker.

You got a job to do.

I got a job job to do.

We don't have to be friends.

We can be friendly.

Yeah.

Two different things, OJo.

I mean, it's a locker room, huh?

You got 53 people.

You got 53 people.

Everybody's not going to get along.

Yeah.

Everybody's not going to get along.

You're going to have egos.

You're going to have people with pride.

You're going to have to have jealousy.

You know?

And it's just, it's always, it's always been a part of sports.

It's always been a part part of locker rooms.

It's always been a part of teens in general.

You're not going to like everybody.

Nope.

You're not there.

This is not a liking contest.

You're there for one job.

Do your job.

I like you more if you do your job good.

I like you even more.

But

look, look, I don't, you know,

clearly CD and

digs

has a fondness to

with Micah.

I've been around him a little bit.

I don't have no problem with Micah.

Never had a problem with him.

He's a funny, funny dude.

That's why

hearing anything come up about ego,

especially when it comes to him,

he's a funny guy.

He's young.

You know,

it's weird.

It's funny how everything comes out when someone actually leaves.

We knew that was going to happen.

Funny how that works.

You know, you ever notice

the guy was a, oh, he was a problem on the job.

15 for 20 years.

Ain't nobody say nothing.

The moment somebody leaves, yeah, yeah, he was a problem.

Yeah, he was probably the best one on the job, too.

Yes.

Let's add that.

Ocho, Vegas has Lamar Jackson at the back.

He's back on top for the MVP odds.

The reigning MVP, Josh Allen, and Joe Burrow are hairs beneath him at plus 600.

Patrick Mahomes rounding out the top four at plus 650.

Is this the year?

Lamar puts it all together, wins MVP and

a Super Bowl.

I mean, it could be the year.

It could be the year.

If it was going to happen,

this is the funny thing

when it comes to not just Lamar Jackson, but Josh Allen and all those other quarterbacks in the AFC.

It's always going to.

It's going to be the same four.

Same four.

Now, what Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs?

What Lamar Jackson do we get in the playoffs?

That's all that matters.

So we know what he's going to do in the regular season.

Yes.

We're going to put up crazy numbers.

Yes.

We're going to rush for crazy numbers.

But what Lamar Jackson, whatever Lamar Jackson we get in the postseason, that will be if those odds in Vegas come true.

That's all it come down to.

And that's all I've said.

I said, I want to see the Lamar Jackson that's won the MVP or finish second.

We have yet to see that guy for the totality of the playoffs we've seen it for a game ocho

but we need to see it for the totality because we saw it last year they didn't turn the ball over he didn't turn the ball over for like eight nine games right and then he had two big turnovers and that was you know some of that's undoing like look and i get it such a hold on to the ball uh uh zay flowers fumbled on the one but he did give the he did give uh uh

the Chiefs a short field.

He got stripped in the pocket.

I just need Lamar to be Lamar in the postseason that he was in the regular season.

I don't need anything else.

I don't need to be, I don't need anything else, Ocho.

I don't need him to be anything other

than what he's shown us for

the 17 games in the regular season.

If he's that,

if he's that player, can nobody beat the Ravens?

Nobody.

Nah.

Well, I don't know about nobody.

Ocho, the man threw 41 touchdowns with four picks.

Hold on, hold on, huh, man.

Don't jump on me.

Don't jump on me.

This is a new season.

With everything you just named, it's what he did last year.

Now, I'm not saying he can't repeat it, but there's a team he has to deal with in the AFC North.

They own y'all.

Come again.

They own y'all.

Lamar Jackson owned the Cincinnati Bengal.

Let me do something.

Is the Ravens that's your team, huh?

Or your supposed to be team that you spent two weeks at?

Two years.

Okay, two years, two weeks.

It's all the same.

You want to best sum on that game?

Oh, Joe, it's kind of hard for you to borrow money when you owe money.

Huh?

Oh, you know, I'm hey, listen, I'm good for it.

Like, when I go to the casino, you ain't good for it.

Hey, when I go to the casino, they just hand, they just give me what I want because they understand.

Oh, oh, Joe, you here?

Oh, we know you, we know we're gonna take care of you.

What you need, yeah, we should push your money line.

I will file a whatcha column on you.

I'll press charges on you.

I ain't do nothing.

How are you gonna press charges?

You'll be $5,900 and you won't pay.

Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Is it written on paper?

They heard it.

Oh, yeah, they got it.

We got it on paper.

I didn't sign nothing.

You ain't got to sign it.

We got it.

We got a verbal contract.

You bet me.

A verbal contract.

Yeah, Michael Parsons and Jerry Jones had a verbal contract, too.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

We got this.

I showed a tape.

What is it?

Y'all, here it is right here.

This is

yo i bet you

johnny we're gonna get you out of here on this one this clip from your glory days podcast has gone viral let's show the chat

in my draft the browns had two picks with the sixth pick we took justin gilbert from oklahoma state oh yeah and i get the most wave of

for being a bust in this and that.

I wasn't even the biggest f ⁇ ing, and respect to Justin Gilbert.

I love him as a human being, but we both flamed out.

We both struggled.

14, 15, 16 picks before me.

So, like, I'm not even the biggest bust in my class from the Browns.

Damn, Johnny.

I was feeling some type of way that day.

Clearly, clearly.

You're like, hello, y'all killing me, but look at what about the guy that went top 10?

I mean, I wanted to be in that pick.

Like, that's what we were talking about going to Cleveland.

I wanted to go to Cleveland at six.

I wanted to go to Cleveland at four, whatever the pick was.

Like, if you're going to send me to Ohio, at least send me with 20 million instead of eight.

Like, what the fuck?

Damn.

I'll love the Dustin Gilbert.

Look, I think, you know, from a Browns.

draft perspective from that year, you know, Joel Battonio is still playing and doing well for Cleveland right now, but

all-around miss.

You know, I think I will always be looked at and viewed at because of how much hype and,

you know, media and everything that was around me and the city of Cleveland expecting me to be great and that ultimately not panning out.

Listen, you know, I sit here today and I go back and forth with, man, am I going to let Cleveland off the hook and just like let it go?

Or am I going to sit here with hate and animosity in my heart for the rest of my life?

and i finally sit here today i'm like it i think i'm going to be pissed at them and hate them forever so

it is what it is man um no no love for the browns i i'm rooting for 0-16 seasons every season damn john let me ask you this as you sit here today And after all the things you've gone through, we sat down a little over a year ago and we had a conversation, had a great conversation.

And I think a lot of people got an opportunity to see you in a different light.

Knowing what you know now,

you're back in that situation, but you know what you know now.

What would you have done differently?

Would you have done anything different leading up to the draft?

Would you have done anything different in college?

What are some of the things that Johnny would have done differently to make sure this outcome that we're talking about never happens?

Look, there was a moment in time, and we spoke about it on the podcast, was,

you know, after that Oklahoma Cotton Bowl game, you know, things changed for me.

And I went from Johnny Manzel to Johnny football.

And like looking back on it now, people ask me if you could go back in time and do it differently there is that split moment in time like in the locker room after that game where my focus would have shifted to let's get to national championship the next year let's get to san diego and start training again and like get ready and geared up for this season because we got mike evans returning we got a bunch of guys on this team who can come back and make a real run and that's one thing that just never sits right with me to this day um just like the untapped potential of the whole thing and the the real opportunity.

If I want to see Texas A ⁇ M win a national championship, well, that was a real, real opportunity for us.

And it just didn't come to fruition.

And, you know, I sit here today and a lot of people will hear me speak.

And as I tell stories and, you know, I'm doing the podcasting stuff, you know, people will always be like, you know, I'm blaming stuff on other people or I'm not accountable or anything like that.

But listen, at the end of the day, everything that I've got in my life and that's happened to me throughout my football career is only because of one person, myself, and the decisions that I've made as a man in this life.

So

was Cleveland the best situation for me to go to?

Did they help me knowing all the things that they knew about me with all the research and everything?

Did they put me in the best situation?

Absolutely not.

It was not the right situation for me.

But when it comes down to it, you take all of that aside, you throw it away and you look in the mirror and you say, I've let an amazing amazing opportunity slip.

It's on me.

I'm the one that has to sit with myself every single night as I watch college football or watch NFL football and be like, damn, I would be in my 12th year.

I would be X, Y, and Z.

I'm the one that has to lay my pillow down, lay my head on the pillow every night and be like, that coulda, woulda, shoulda, but it wasn't.

And at the end of the day, A lot of my life as I've been out of football has been like, what am I going to be able to do to find a spark, to be able to be happy, to be able to give me something like football did give me?

And you know what?

Maybe it wasn't meant to be for me.

I didn't put in the time and the effort and determination that you need to be great that both of you guys did for the sport.

And that was just maybe my stupidity, my youth, or what it was meant to be.

But nevertheless, you know, I take accountability for everything and what it is.

You know, I really didn't harm anybody other than myself when it's all said and done.

So,

you know, we're still sitting here today, rocking, rolling, happy.

And we're on the nightcap show now, baby, every Saturday.

Let's go.

That's what I'm talking about.

Johnny, did it come too easy?

Did football come too easy to you?

You look at what you did.

You went down to Tuscaloosa and you became a household name.

Everybody knew who you were after you went in there and did what you did to Coach Saban.

Did football come too easy for you after that?

Man, I don't know.

I think I started to, you start to get a little bit of ego on the football field, right?

You start to see what you're doing in practice and how you're playing and like making certain throws and the scrambling where you like, you're just doing certain things that are just like jumping off the page and you're noticing them too.

So it gives you a, it gives you a bravado and a confidence.

And when people on a college football field, you know, I think this is why I wanted to go to the NFL so bad because as I'm going and playing on Saturdays, I'm like, these dudes can't fuck with me.

They really can't.

They want to.

And even guys who are good from opposing teams, you'll come up to each other after the game and they'll be like, damn,

you're everything we thought you were going to be.

You're cold.

So as you're getting respect from your peers on this level, too, it does heighten your sense.

It does give you a sense of ego and bravado.

And,

you know, you add the social media wave.

And, you know, at that point in time, Sports Center every single night and you're taking over the world.

You know, it does make you feel invincible.

So I know there was a lot of hard work that went into everything that happened.

And the reason that I played as well as I did on the field is because I did work my ass off from the time I was in high school to college and it all played itself out.

I think you start to see the down, you know, the downslide and everything else when the hard work takes itself out.

So, you know, that's what I always tell kids nowadays who ask me and look at my story and look at everything.

It's like, listen, I had all the talent in the world.

You can go run a go route, put your hand up and have a guy draped over you.

I'll drop it in the bucket.

You can go meet me in the A gap and really think you have me covered or tackle, and I'll mix you out of your shoes.

But when it comes down to it,

you've got to work hard and you got to consistently do it day in and day out, even when you don't want to.

And if you don't want to do it, guess what?

There's somebody right next door or somewhere else that wants to take your spot and wants to trade places with you.

And look what happened to me.

You know, the NFL is a game where you get replaced like this.

Johnny, thanks for joining us tonight.

Welcome to the team.

Make sure you go subscribe to Johnny's podcast on YouTube, Glory Days with Johnny Manzel.

Johnny, thank you for joining us, man.

We'll see you next week, bro.

Have a good time.

Enjoy.

Thanks, boys.

See you next week.

Much love.