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Thank you for staying up late with us and joining us as you watch opening weekend of the nfl season the defending champs the philadelphia eagles took down the dallas cowboys division rival nfc east rival uh the dallas cowboys by the score of 24-20 they got two rushing touchdowns from jalen hurts and that was more than enough to carry them to a victory the first half was very very entertaining it was really really good football uh neither defense could get off the field but

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The Eagles beat the Cowboys, Ocho, by the score of 24-20. It was an awful half, a late half for CD.

CD had big, big drop, OJ, and he being that guy, he's the number one. He's wide receiver number one.
Not in this game. Not in that game.

Dak threw, they had a quarters beaters on Ocho.

They gobbled him up. They ran the slot.
He gobbled up the safety. Corners playing outside leverage.
CD goes to the post. God, he's worked.
Dak just walked.

That's a handoff. That's what we call what a walk to him, Dak.
That's a long handoff. Dropped it in the bucket.
CD said, nah, I don't want it, Dak. You take it.
Throw it back at him.

Came back later, threw him another one up the rail. Got a goal by Ocho.
I don't know why he's diving like you do doing an ST plunge. You ain't diving in the pool, just running.

He dove purposely just because the safety was coming so that to avoid

getting hit and being able to make the catch. I'm gonna dive for this one, bring it in.

Uncle I, I don't know what happened tonight. I don't know what happened tonight.
CD had a chance to win the game for the Cowboys. That's the way the game should have ended.

As great as the game was before the lightning delay, with them both, with both teams going up and down the field and scoring back to back. Listen, the Cowboys should have sealed the deal.
He had,

it was three big plays, right, Unc? It was three.

Well, I counted three, I counted three drops, but

somebody

tweeted at me and said, no, he had four drops. But I know I counted three because I know I counted one in the second quarter that he had one and it went right through his hand.

He almost got it picked. As a matter of fact,

two of the four drops almost got picked and probably should have been picked. But

you're right, Ojoe. CD being the player that he is.

You got to have those, Uncle You get, you got to have those, those, especially being what we consider you to be when we talk about the top five receivers in the NFL.

Those are the kind of catches that you make. Matter of fact, the money that you do make is the reason you make that kind of money for opportunities in situations like that.

They expect you to make those. So, I mean, it's unfortunate.
CD is going to have to get back to the drawing board. And you know what to do.
You've had games like that.

Big games where you drop important plays that can change the magnitude of a game. You know,

and it's moments like that that determine wins and losses.

Yeah.

And it's about no one play. No, it's not one play.
It was four plays. It was four plays.
I counted three.

And

three of them would have been first downs, Ocho. The last one

basically ended the game because that was on fourth down.

But he had the post. I mean, Brian Schottenheimer had the perfect play called on.
They're playing quarters coverage. They got the slot to eat up the safety.

The corner is playing outside leverage on CD. CD runs a post.
Dak can't throw it any better. That's what we call walking to him.
He walks. That's a long handoff.

That's how perfect the ball was thrown. He threw the other one that he dropped that he laid out for, Ocho.

You know, when you're unsure of your hands, you do a lot of diving because you're going to catch it with your body, Ocho. You're supposed to run up front of the thing.

Hey, see, that's CD Lamb.

CeeDe Lamb's supposed to run up under that face. Ooh, damn, that you do handed us to me.
You're handing me another one.

A lot of times, there are times that you have to dive, but I don't believe CeeDee needed to dive for that ball, Joe. Watching it, having played the receiving position, you play the receiving position.

I don't believe he needed to die for that. Listen, I think he was trying to protect himself.
And I gave my mind based on what I saw. Okay, why he did die.

Okay, I'm going to dive and catch it because I know the safety is coming. I'm going to avoid the collision by jumping forward and being able to cover myself up and protect myself by making the catch.

by diving. Obviously, things didn't work out.
Those are plays that we expect, that we all expect.

People watching, whether you're a Cowboys fan or not, you expect CeeDee Lamb to make because those two catches, those two big catches

changed the trajectory of the game.

Yeah, for sure.

And the Cowboys have a turnover too, OJ.

You remember they had a turnover also.

They were down to what, like the 10-yard line, and the guy found with the ball. Running back, running back.
Yes, sir. Yes.
Yes. Matter of fact,

that was Sanders, Miles Sanders. Miles Sanders.
First of all,

I thought Miles Sanders was faster than that. Ain't no way a linebacker supposed to catch a running back.
I don't give a damn who the linebacker is.

You got to remember that. We talk about linebackers that run a 4-4-4-5 now.

Zach Braun don't run no 4-4-4-5. That's Miles Sanders.

So what linebacker? So

what linebacker you know catching Derrick Henry? Which one catching Saquon?

Which one catching Christian McCaffrey? Yeah, but see, see,

you can't let no running back. You can't let no linebacker catch.
Oh, Joe, and look where he came from.

Just look at the look at the look of the running backs you just named. You named your tier one running backs.

You named your tier one running backs.

Go back and look. Go back and look and see where Zach Braun came from.
And you tell me if he's supposed to run Miles Sanders down.

And what made it even more egregious, if he tried to punch the ball out first, he missed that. Say, damn, I couldn't punch it out.
Now let me tackle him.

Bro, you cannot let a, old joke in a situation like that. That's a breakaway.
Because you broke the initial line. Safety takes a horrible angle.
Corner, don't know.

Corner's like a blind dog in a meat house. Which way did he go? Which way did he go? So he didn't know anything.
And now he got, I'm going to hit my head on the goalpost.

You're supposed to. I don't think Miles Sanders is not one of those burners like that.
He's not a Chris Johnson. You know, he's not a Jameer Gibbs.
He's not going to get out.

And even with the pursuit, I'm going to outrun everybody.

Well, hell, he ran like Freddie Gills. gills

you talking about jameer gills hell i'd have to i took freddie gills on that one hell i think he could have made it there chat y'all go back and look at that play

and tell me look at where braun came from and you tell me if he was supposed to run miles sanders down oh yo he's on the other side hey oh hey i can see you ever you ever listen oh you ran track didn't you

yes let me tell you the feeling miles Sanders had. You ever ran that goddamn 400?

I did. I was on the mile relay team.
I ran over four times. You went off that third curve and that monkey jump on your back?

And you tried everything?

That last 110, Ocho, you got to come up out there.

That last 110, you got to come up out of there.

You know that feeling?

Yeah.

And like,

the thing is, Ocho, look, I understand if the guy is pursuing, that means he got an anger. Angle, excuse me.
But this guy was a chaser. He chased him down.
He didn't have no angle.

He ran him. I'm like, what the hell?

I was like,

I like what I saw from the Cowboys offensively.

Defensively, I'm still concerned, Ocho, because if you go back and look,

when they came out of the lightning timeout, the delay, if you notice, Ibra Flus did something that he didn't do early in the game, which was blitz.

He blitzed two.

He brought

digs, he bought a corner, and then he brought a slot. So he bought a cat and a slot blitz because he saw he couldn't get there with just four.
And when they got a minimal pressure, they let him.

You can't give up lanes to a mobile quarterback. Every time.

I'm like, dude, what are y'all doing?

And that's not what Ibra Fluz liked to play cover two. He'd like to keep everything in front of him.

He doesn't want to sacrifice his back end, but he had no choice because those, A, you got the number one rated left tackle, you got the number one rated right tackle, so you ain't getting nothing.

Now, My Lotta did get lazy on one play, and he stayed

too long, and I don't remember 41's name, but he allowed him to get some pressure. But Lane Johnson was, Lane Johnson was doing it like, hey,

he was doing his thing tonight. Dickerson did go out, so that's a situation that Bear is watching.

But I told you, Ocho, I had some concerns because the eagles lost their coordinator and the guy that they got calling plays now has never called plays so i don't give a damn who your personnel is the likelihood of somebody that's never called plays come in and been dealing is probably not gonna happen now you mean to tell me you go

30 45 56 minutes Before you give A.J. Brown a target? Man, listen,

I tweeted that. I think they were nine minutes into the second quarter.
And the first thing I said was, well, can we get AJ Brown involved, please? There's no need.

There's no need for AJ to have to be reading that book called Silence on the Sideline Again.

There's no need for that. How do you go into a game in week one and you pay AJ Brown, what, 28, 28 million?

No, AJ get like 33, 33 million, and he doesn't have a target. How is he not a part of the game plan? I understand the Eagles have a way of doing things.

Matter of fact, the way the Eagles do do things, they went and won won a Super Bowl by doing things the way they do them.

But how do you not get your number one target, your number one receiver involved into the game early?

It doesn't have to be anything extravagant. It could be a smoke route.

It could be a quick hitch. It could be a quick out, you know, something just to get him, just to get him acclimated and make him feel like he's

a part of the game plan.

I didn't see a whole lot of separation.

The fourth quarter?

Yeah.

I didn't see a whole lot of separation either, Ocho. To go back when they were showing, when they would show

a different angle,

it's not like there was a whole lot of separation. It's

Zach Bond.

B-A-U-N, Bond. I was saying Braun.

How do you pronounce it? B-A-U-N.

B-A-U-N.

All I know is that he chased down Miles Sanders, and then the very next play, they fumble the ball. So he saved the touchdown.
now you look at the difference see that's that's one guy that that

somebody sometimes ocho we get oh somebody else will make that play he took it upon himself I ain't worried about nobody I'm gonna go make the damn play

and sometimes we get that on a team because football is the ultimate team game man ocho gonna make the play nah you gonna make the play

Bond like

B and U in Don Bond Bond okay

but uh it's uh

i thought the game was really was was it wasn't i mean there was no defense in the first half let me take that back if you like offense this game was the game for you in the first half but that when that delay happened ocho it and that's hard that is very hard to take that kind of time because ocho you just came out of delay you just came out of half and get back going

And then so now you're like, okay, I'm good to go. I'm good to go.
And they blow it. This is now and you back for a delay for another 45 minutes.

so it's hard to tune back up after you've turned down and to tune back you know turn down again and get back going so the game the game

the second half was not as interesting as the first half the first half was phenomenal for it to be a week one game

it was promoted the way it was advertised it lived up to just that it lived up to just that and i got it i got a question for you too How do you feel with Michael Parsons being out?

And I think Michael Parsons not being there,

if Micah was there, I think he takes away some of those scrambling, some of those where people weren't disciplined, staying in their lanes.

So I think some of that pressure, there was really no pressure on

Brother Jalen Hurts for most of the night. How do you feel the Cowboys did in the run game that Jerry claimed they improved on since getting rid of Michael Parsons?

Well, they gave up 38 for 158. So that's about what?

That's about four carry.

They did a great job on Saquon, 18 for 60.

They didn't let him go crazy. He had a nice TD run.
The TD run was really, really nice. Jalen Hurts was the only one that really hurt him with his legs.

Those two touchdowns, because people got the gap responsibility, they got out of their lanes. He found the lane.

The thing that you don't want to let a mobile quarterback do is scramble to his dominant hand. Well, he's a right-handed quarterback, and the first touchdown, you let him get outside to

his dominant hand. Second one, you you know, you just got collapsed down, and then he takes out the back door.
So give Jalen Hurts credit for that.

Dallas is going to have to be, there's not a time you're going to have to, well, look, you got Jaden Daniels in that division. Russ can run, but Russ ain't Jalen Hurts.
He's not Jaden Daniels.

But looking at this game, Ocho, I think Dallas is going to be fine. I don't want to make too much about it because I think Dallas's offense

is going to be fine. The question that I have is that are they going to be able to generate enough pressure?

That's the question that I have, OJo. Now, now everybody ain't got an offensive line like Philly now.
No, which is.

And

the thing that Philly was able to do is that they were able to say, look,

they didn't get down

to make that, the force, Dallas couldn't force them to just throw, throw, throw. Because we still could run just enough because, you know, it was 7-0 and 7-7.

then and then you know the score was what it was so it was never a situation where the eagles had to get out of character now if you have to get out of character and you're not able to run the ball to make those guys like, well, they can run it, well, you're going to have a problem.

And the thing is that you've got to give Iber Flues credit because you play cover two, you got to run a team out of cover two.

And that's why there was nothing there because that's what Iberflues liked to play. You go back and study him at Indy.
You go back and study him with the Bears.

That's the defense that he loves to play. And so,

you know, like I said,

I'm not overly concerned, but I'm cautious about the Eagles because

this is the first year play caller,

and the expectations are so high because you're coming off a Super Bowl, you got the offensive player of the year, you bring your basically all your offensive guys back.

Now, you did lose a lot of guys on defense. Now, and what we're going to get into like before the game even started, oh Joe, according to the next gen stat, Zach Bond

reached the top speed of 20.68 to make a TD saving tackle.

Miles Sanders was 19.2 i told you you got you gotta think that's the fastest play from scrimmage of his career yeah i told you he got i don't know exact bond i don't know what he ran i don't know what he ran at the combine but i do understand that monkey jumped on miles sanders back i don't know if miles sanders has ever been a blazer uh

well he's got to be di a player that we've that we've looked or viewed as a burner that can hit his head off the goalpost from anyone on the field. I don't think we've ever viewed him like that.

Brother Bond is fast, obviously. And that's where the game comes.

Zach Bond ran a 465.

Now, that's when he's coming out. He's looking for a job.
Guys, I'm going to get, I've got my best suit on. I got my best polo shirt.
I got my best tie and my best black shoes. You think he running?

You think he's running that time right now?

Six years in the league?

Exactly.

You know, that football. But that just don't.

Let me say something. Football speed and 40-yard dash speed are completely different.
You know who else ran a 4-6 and never got caught? The greatest receiver of all time.

You know who else ran a 4-5

and never got caught? 4-6-4-5, same thing.

You.

You know who else run a 4-5 of the combine? But hell, he was lightning quick and never got caught either.

Yeah,

he wanted that, Ocho. That's just like, man, I can't let.
I can't. Because

first of all, Ocho, normally 4-6, you ain't even like, man, that's a running back.

Hey,

Ella Part didn't say bad to you. He was having, he used to work for the state.
He was a state trooper. Say, man, he was part had his car parked, Ocho.
Say, car went past him.

Say he probably doing 140. Say he

said, forget it. All he had to do is, hey, radio and call ahead.

Zach Bond could have easily did that.

He could have easily done that, Ocho, and nobody would have been upset.

But something inside, see, that's the difference between winning and losing ball games. You see the effort.
Now, if I'm the Eagles, if I'm Siriani,

I'm putting that on the loop.

This is the effort.

This is who we are.

If we want to get back to where we want to be,

this is the type of effort I need from everybody.

No excuses allowed.

Job got to get done.

That was as impressive because the very next play, Ocho, we gave, they got a fumble.

You know what's funny too on that fumble?

Goddamn Miles Sanders coming through the hole, the first thing quarterback, I mean, quarterback, the first thing running backs do is they put both hands on the ball.

He had both hands on the ball, and it's still, it still got a batter there.

Still got a better.

Hey, sometimes, ocho the perfect hit

there's nothing you can do man and nothing you can do

look

watching oh aj brown the last couple years you know i followed a little bit in tennessee but we did tennessee was really not on our radar like that but since the eagles he's probably happy they won but he see the got to be You know what's going on.

You know what's going on. Ocho.
I don't win a hope. I practiced all summer long.
I did all this training camp, these OTAs, these mini camp for this.

Hold on, what do you have? Hold on.

One catch for eight yards. He had my dog out there doing cardio, huh?

Now, listen,

I will say this.

I will say this. Some of the plays where Jalen Hurst was going to AJ Brown, when he condensed the spits, he was running.
What do you call it? The dig, the 12-yard dig, the little short one.

Yeah, I saw, you still call it a dig? I thought they had them different, different.

anyway. He was trying to go to AJ, safety came down, been on it right away.
He had to come up off it.

There were a few times where Jalen Hurst was going to him, but pressure got in the way, a D-lineman got in the way, and Jalen had to get up out of there.

So the times he was going to throw on the ball, he couldn't get it to him.

I will say that, but the fact is, the fact still remains, even still, one goddamn catch in the fourth quarter. Come on, now.

Come on, now.

Ocho, if a team is going to play you cover two, you got to run them out of it.

Because the thing was, if you look at it, when he's at his best, when he can play pitch and catch, it's single high safety. They're working on one-on-one.
Devontae's one-on-one. AJ's one-on-one.

X, Y, and Z. You look at the one he dropped in the bucket to Dotson with perfect coverage.
They got him in quarter, playing outside leverage. He dropped it in the bucket.

They couldn't run him out. They couldn't run him out of cover two.

Even if they do want to play cover two, boom. Okay, y'all want to go in cover two? Boom.
We're going to get this fits,

put him in motion, do spacing, find the hole, find the zone.

It's simple.

If you really want to get your player the ball, there's so many things you could do with him offensively. There's so many.

I want to give him the ball, Ocho, but I'm not going to junk my offense to get him the ball. I'm not going to go out.
See,

that's what we got to be careful of, Ocho.

Trying to get him the ball, getting outside of our offense. Because

most offenses are at their best when it's flowing, when it's fluid. And I'm not trying to force you the ball.

If you go look at Pickens, Pickens had three.

I mean, Ferguson had five,

what did he have? CeeDee Lamb had 13 targets. George Pickens had four targets.

Ferguson had six targets. So only Lamb should be pleased with the amount of targets that he got.
But he should have had another four catches.

Or she should have had 11 for about a buck 65, maybe a 1.80. No, no, no.
This game, brother, CeeDee Lamb. No, I'm talking about CD Lamb.
This game, CeeDee Lamb should add about 200.

Okay.

Opening night, Thursday night, based on what I saw tonight, CeeDee Lambs have left that game for one with a W,

two with a 200-yard game.

Easy to start the season off. Easy.
Yep.

I tell you what, Ocho, I sure hope the Eagles

don't regret letting Slate go.

Because, boy, boy,

they were having their way with a Dory Jackson.

You know, I wouldn't, nine-year veteran.

He's been playing long enough in Tennessee, in New York with the Giants. He has enough experience.
Once he gets settled in, Vic Vangios understands what he can and what he cannot do.

Making sure whatever you need to hide, whatever weaknesses he may have at the defensive back position,

you're going to have to be able to hide that. You're going to have to be able to hide that until he he gets his confidence back if he's lost it.

You got to. Because

if there's one weak link that pops out on film, especially like tonight's game, what you think every other team is going to do?

They're going to attack it every time.

They're going to attack it every time. I'm going to him.
I'm going to him. I what you know for real though.
That's what I'm doing. Absolutely.
Absolutely. Absolutely.
Hey,

it's kind of like when Eli Apple, wherever wherever Eli Apple was, the ball found him.

It didn't matter where he was. He could play the slot.
He could play the right corner. He could play the left corner.
He could play the nickel. It didn't dime.
It did not matter.

All I know, if he lined up on me, the ball coming to me. Whoever he lined up on, that's where the ball was finding.
The ball's going to find him.

So Adori Jackson, until he fixed that,

Bob gonna find it.

I think

he's going to be okay. He's made many, many, many plays.

And once he gets acclimated in that defense, Vic Bangio understands what he can and can't do with the Dory, when to have him free, what to have him with help, what to have in the man, whatever he does best, they'll figure it out.

Obviously, it's only week one.

But right now, when you watch film on this Eagles, Cowboys game, I'm not sure who the Eagles play next, but the first thing they'll say, oh, when you look at defense, okay, we got to find the fish.

We got to

find the fish. Who was the fish? Who was the weak link that we got?

And I'm baiting. And guess what, Ocho? I'm baiting.

I got some good chum.

You damn right.

I'm looking for it. Listen, I'm just happy football season is back.

I am too, Ocho. And the thing is, if you think about it, Ocho,

Big Fanjo likes to play. He likes to play nickel defense.
If you notice, he liked to play Cooper's DeJohn in the slot. He loved to play nickel.
He loved to play single hot. He loved to play

too deep because he believed, I will keep everything in front of you i got the pressure now and we're gonna talk about this in a little bit uh about jalen carter and i don't know what the hell he was thinking okay um but in the in and that's in this situation i'm a little concerned um the eagles and the the their inability to generate pressure

yeah

yeah

but you but you lost a lot too uh didn't they have a uh who that's the uh they lost sweat

they lost corners they lost yeah they lost sleigh they let slay go uh corner uh one of the d linemen big d linemen got paid uh uh uh two of the d linemen got paid brandon brandon retired

graham retired and so the thing is ocho is that you know

oh you keep saying next man up next man up no no no no no no no no no ain't no next man and you can't keep going three four men and talk about oh yeah you you got it bro bro there's a reason why you you at the back of the bus

Oh, they got the Chiefs next week, Ocho.

They got the Chiefs next week. CD was officially credited with four drops.

Four drops. Four, four, four, four.

That ain't good. CD, you know, he's better than that.
He'll go back, look at the take. Maybe that's what that's how he does it.

I don't know what's his thought process or how he gets ready for the next game. He'll go back because he ran great routes.
He was open.

He just has to make those catches. he's that.
He very,

he's he wears 88 for a reason. Oh, yeah.

Two of the guys that's worn 88s in the pro football hall of fame, that's what they expect of CD. And those guys made those plays when opportunity presented itself.

I'm not saying he's not going to have a drop.

That's, I mean, hey, you're going to have a drop. Some games you go, you catch everything.
Some games you go, you know, you have a drop. Now, like this: you can't have four.
You can't have four.

And you can't have, he he had two big i mean back-to-back drives ocho yeah i think he's gonna be right on matter of fact have you ever had a game like that before

i'm trying to think

no not where not where i've had that many drops now i've had a game where i had the drop okay you know what i'm saying yeah

but i haven't had a game where i had you know three four five no four or five drop no i haven't had a game like that but i've had a game just like that like cd cd did against uh the buffalo bills

you talk about one of the worst feelings ever ever for

right? But when you get when you get the two and three and your teammates start looking at you, well, ain't you supposed to be him?

You are, you okay, you okay?

Hey, you get them, you get them, sharp, you get them next time,

man. Please,

hey, hey, oh, yo, that's what you said after the first drop. Here we are three or four down,

and it's next, it's the next day. That's why I love playing with TJ.
That's why I love playing with T.O. because those are the type of individuals, even though they're your teammates.

Oh, they're gonna get to you raw.

All that, oh, it's gonna be all right. Nah, TJ and TO, man, what is you doing?

We will let that

RAW, we'll let that one slide.

I get

no, no, I'm saying we let that first RAW slide, but that's all you get for this week. Now, so when we come back, when we come back on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, ain't no more.

Ain't no more getting it to you wrong. Oh, pause, pause, pause.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We let that one slide.
That one. My bad, I was talking too fast.

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Ocho,

we got to start about talk about the start of the game. Jalen Carter was ejected for spitting on Dak Prescott.

And a new video angle showed that Dak spit first at the ground in Carter's direction, smiled and laughed carter then walked towards the cowboys huddle leaning the two exchanging words and carter spit on dak

nfl need to suspend him what what one one game

one game yeah that's that's that's feasible i think it's feasible you can't do that though i don't i don't care you can talk trash you can say what you want to say um you can say whatever you want to say for one you you inside they huddle you cross the ball inside they huddle you know go at it with whatever

you're already intimidating. You're already top three at your position in the NFL.
There's no more, there's nothing you can say or do that you haven't already put on film.

We need to be going at it with that. We understand what the damage you were going to do in this game.
You know, to go out there and spit on somebody,

that's the worst thing that you can do to anybody, huh? That's the worst thing you can do to anybody. Spitting on someone is uncalled for.
Spitting on someone is we have to fight no matter what.

At a funeral, we at church, we in the street, spitting is off limits. That's something you, you just, you just, I'm surprised Dak was able to restrain himself.
I understand.

He'll quarterback, he'll quarterback.

And anything that I do, you know, first of all, I swing on him. I hurt my hand.
I need this to throw the football. Don't swing on him.
I mean, I just, just, just something.

There is nobody you can find in the chat. If you switch, if you switch, what if that was you, Uncle? What you would have did?

Jay Lake Harder spit on you right there in the middle of the field see hey i'm i'm gonna get thrown out the game i don't think there's any other player and i think because dak is a quarterback he had to react the way he did i it's commendable because you don't expect that yeah chat stop stop he did dak did not spit on him

y'all need to stop chat chat y'all need to chat stop with this Oh,

Dak spit at him. Dak spit on the ground.
Dak was in his huddle. Yeah.

Do y'all see where Dak was?

Y'all make it seem like Dak walked up to him spit on the ground right in front of his shoes did you see where dak was

he walked towards dak and spit on him

chat stop this

you can't y'all tried to conflate well he did this so that's why he did that no it's not the same chat and you know it he got baited he got cost himself and he's probably going to get suspended the game You do these kind of antics when you're not a good enough player.

He's too good of a player. he don't need to do shenanigans he don't need to do this oh joe he's that good

he's an all-pro he's a pro bowl player he doesn't need to do any of that now he can just let his play speak for itself which i knew it was gonna do do you um do you you do understand he's top three at his position

Yes, I realize how good he could be.

What is he doing? I don't understand. Like, you're in the conversation with Chris Jones and Jeffrey Simmons.
Like, you were him.

Yes, I don't get it.

Because here's the thing. This is how I know he doesn't know how good he is because he does stuff like this.

Aaron Donald, Reggie White, the great, they didn't have to do nothing like this. They say, you know what I'm going to do? I get you.
Okay, you want to wink at me, Dad? You want to spit?

Yeah, I get you. You do.
That's why quarterbacks don't do much. They don't say anything.

Cut the guy they talking to can come over there and literally break that damn neck every time i don't want to piss you off hey hey good that's look at what bra y'all would say good hit great job you hey you're heck of a player he always buttered him up i'm gonna try to stay on the good side

jalen you didn't have to do that bro i don't even know bro bro you wasn't raised like that you weren't raised like that man And the only thing is you're in a structured environment like the NFL.

Bro, you mess around and do something like that in the streets. And, bro, you get hurt, bro.
Don't do that. You're too good of a player to do that.
Why would you spit?

I'm talking about, think about it, Ocho. Do you think about, remember, to do something like that? You done thought about that before.

I mean, that's the thing that comes to your mind. You walk up to the man and spit on the man.

You're not, hey, like,

have you, chat, chat? Just, just, I want y'all to actually visualize this. We talk about week one.
This is the NFL.

Before the game even starts,

The best player on defense gets thrown out the game before it even starts for actually spitting,

not a punch, not a shove,

not a not a scrum, not an altercation,

spitting. One of the worst things you can do to someone like that when you're actually angry,

like

and first of all, Ocho,

as

black man,

do you know, like the civil rights, that's what happened to us.

Yeah, you get spit off. You got the whole, got the, got the water holes turning on us, got the dogs, the sick donors, you got, you got hit upside the head with the billy.

You was, I mean, you would do that to another, first of all, you shouldn't do that to another,

but you do that,

you would do, you would do that of all the things you could do, say, you know what? I'm going to get 40 snaps. I get a chance, I'll get your ass back.

I'll get you back.

Don't worry about that. I get you.
I'm going to get you. Just so you know, I'm going to get you.

Now, if he get him and he, hey, he power drives him, I ain't got no problem.

I bet you won't do that. I bet you won't spend on the ground no more.

And the funny thing.

Got no problem.

Get him back. But don't do that, Jalen.
You too good of a player.

To ever do that.

If they suspend him for a game, oh Joe,

what's the appeal? What do we appeal? You can't appeal that. You can't.
Even if you do, it's going to be upheld. You're not going to win that.
But

I already know what the NFL office is going to do. I already know what Roger Gatiella is going to do.

I already know what those who hand down the disciplines are going to do. They're going to suspend him for one game.
Absolutely. In fact,

he's going to get fined as well, along with that. Yeah,

the fight will be

because he'll miss a game. Bingo.
Yeah. Okay.
Okay.

Ocho.

what makes this even more egregious?

It's opening night, Thursday night. You the defending champs.

Everybody watching this game.

And that's what you do?

Hey, he was finna have a hell of a game, too.

I can feel it.

Hey, it's okay to talk trash, too.

How do you think I'm mad at that? And that's what I did.

Well, for for 11 20. matter of fact

first couple years i ain't really do no talking i wouldn't i ain't no sense of talking you on specialty but here you talking

about it shut up is i like jalen carter talking trash i like jalen carter setting the tone for everybody else on that defense by doing what he was doing before the game started i just don't like the spinning part i don't like that part but jalen carter setting the tone like that getting in dak's face

offensive lineman right there did you notice not one offensive lineman turned around and said anything anything? What does that tell you?

Not one offensive lineman turned around and said anything, and they can hear him talking trash to their quarterback.

That tells you how they view him as a player.

Me, look,

I don't know how, like I said,

but our offensive lineman, they get you.

They get you.

But see, you can't block like we like what we could cunt block and roll block.

Are you engaging people coming?

no no well you can you can't that's a chop block you can't do that that's the jerry ball rule that messed up jerry jay ball uh uh oh detroit line node guard he got high low got posted it got went right into his knee and blew his knee out so you can't you can't do you can't do that ocho but what we could do

we cockroach you we have your heels up in the air oh we have your heels up in the air And we're gonna, we're gonna cut you and cut you.

Huh? Oh, we have you cockroached. Your heels go be up in there.
there.

Hey, hey, that's the a that thing like synchronized, like synchronized women. You watch all of us cut.
We just, the whole backside just falls down.

Oh, but we get you. I ain't never heard that before.

Oh, we get you. Oh, yeah, yeah.
And that's the thing, oh, Joe, all that talking. I don't care nothing about all that.

You got to play this game, though.

Now, remember, remember what you said.

Hey, the funny thing about it is everything he says he can back up, he just went a little too far with it now. Just a little too far.

That's unacceptable. I'm not sure anybody,

anybody who would be okay with what happened, even if Dak did spit towards the ground, you know how the Cowboys do.

Yeah, when you get ready to do, what do you call it? Little face-off they used to do in the old Westerns.

Oh, you talking about,

you talking about a.

I forgot what they call that.

You talking about three paces and turnarounds.

a duel

the first thing they do they spit off to the side before they draw

i mean it was one of those down down at the flow which is what which was the retaliation and what he saw but oh yo let's see i i don't know maybe if we

chat yes dak spit first but did dak spit on jalen carter that's what i need y'all to ask answer me this did dak spit on jalen carter it doesn't matter who spit first

Did he spit on Jalen Carter?

If you can answer yes to that, then we can have a further discussion. Other than that, what are you talking about?

Yes.

Yeah.

He was wrong. It's okay to be wrong.
Look, I understand.

If you're an Eagles fan, you're a Georgia Bulldog fan, you're Jalen Carter's fan, you can still be a fan of his and meant your player was wrong. It's okay.

It is okay.

My teammate did that. I said my teammate was wrong.
Romo?

Yes. I said Romo's wrong.
I said, Romo's my teammate. I said, but he's wrong in this situation.
I didn't know JJ Stokes.

I had practiced against Romo for

97. So I had played with Romo 96, played 97.
Go against each other in training camp, practice against each other. But Romo was wrong.
It's okay to say someone was wrong

and not try to make an excuse for his behavior.

Oh, he shoved it. Man, stop.

Stop. It's okay, chat.
It's okay to be wrong. Your guy was wrong in this situation.
And that baited him.

That's why LeBron's like, no, I don't get into it. It's like, what type of trade-off is that?

I get thrown out the game for yelling or saying something or pushing somebody, and he gets thrown out. Unless it's Steph Curry, unless it's Kevin Durant,

I'm getting

a third team of thrown out. He's the eighth guy on the team.

I'm at worst I've ever been is two.

Most of my

22 career, I've been one. So if I get thrown out, unless that person is Kevin Durant, unless that person is Steph Curry, unless that person is Kobe Brad or James Harden.

It's not equal. Hey, the funny thing about it

is even if I don't like you,

even if I don't like you, and whether I do like you, if we arguing, if we're going at it, I still respect you

not to spit on you.

Especially in a game of that magnitude.

I ain't never been that mad on Joe.

She Hell, I definitely don't get mad in the game. I don't, but I'm gonna talk my trash.
It's okay to talk your trash, but the whole, oh, I don't know. I don't know.
Hey, listen.

Yeah, I ain't for that.

I ain't for that. I just know, you know,

my grandparents, they, look, we've been in the South our whole life. I grew up, my grandfather grew up in the South.
My grandmother grew up in the South. his mom, his dad, all of them.

And so I don't know.

Maybe southerners, maybe, Ocho, cho maybe we look at it more serious more harsh

because of of what transpired in the south during the time and that you know spitting on somebody but i i haven't i that never even crosses my that never even crossed my mind ocho to spit on somebody you spit on the ground So if you tell me you would rather spit on somebody than the ground, you tell me I'm blowing the ground.

You telling me at that point in time the ground's not worth spitting on. on you are

it's just oh it's just something about that when i hear about somebody spit on or i see somebody it just does something to me it makes my skin crawl it it really does it does something to me something just goes all over me

man i just i i could because i was oh yo because when i came down i was like Because by the time I had to

do something, it's going to sell nothing. I'm like, well, damn, where's Jalen Carter at? So I did did get the ball.
I said, Well, damn, where's Jalen Carter?

I had no, I didn't know, no, I didn't see what happened, no. So I'm like, Well, damn, where's Jalen Carter? I'm like, I see the Eagle O D.

Oh, Joe, I'm looking at him like, Well, damn, what's Jalen Carter?

He tied. I'm like, Oh, I'm saying he tied already,

and then I mean, the thing I see, I see on like

on Twitter, I was like,

huh?

Yeah, man.

I'm like, hold on, I i was like well when i'm so now i'm like well when did he do this so ultra i'm googling i'm like

because i want to know like if

he didn't even play in the game he didn't even play a snap almost almost did

oh my goodness

geez

come on jayla jalen you better than that bro You better than that.

I think for the simple fact, I think a game, he's going to get at least a game for the simple fact. It's Thursday night, it's opening NFL week, and he did that.

Because, Ocho, remember, they're trying to like, they try to stop. Cause, boy, when we were talking, it was

in, shut up.

And, please, they don't even want you saying that now.

Oh, they threw a flag for that.

They threw a flag for Taunton tonight. I'm like, okay, come on now.

Yeah, but that's, oh, oh, Ocho, man, do you know how many N-words have been said on the football field? We're not going to change that. I mean, now trying to control.

They go up there and throw a flag, but I'm saying, I'm like, boy,

that's the way 98% of them talk out there when you're competing anyway. That's just the way you talk.
So now

trying to control that in that structured environment when that's the way we go. I mean,

that makes no sense. If that's the case, you're going to be throwing a flag every goddamn play.

But

the Eagles lose their best defensive player before he even takes a snap. And then he looks shocked.
He looked surprised.

He looked out beat. Oh, Joe, he literally thought he could do that and still play in the game.

He was talking about,

come on, you can read his mouth, man.

Yeah, come on, man.

Hopefully he was saying that to himself. Come on, man.
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I was like, man.

Jason Garrett said he talked to Dak, and Dak told him that he was talking to Tyler Booker, had to spit.

When he did, Jalen Carter was close by. Carter said, you spit at me.
Dak smiled and said, why would I spit at you? And then we all know what Carter did.

Yeah.

I'm glad they won the game. I'm glad they won the game because had they not won the game,

guess what?

Guess what?

Media outlets and pundits would have led with on why they didn't win. Because they didn't have, you know, who, that force.

Right.

According to next-gen stats, Jalen Hurt picked up a career-high five first downs on nine scramble runs tonight, including the game-clinching third-down conversion.

Ocho, he also scored both touchdowns on his scramble runs. Were you impressed by Jalen Hurts? Absolutely.
He did.

Jalen Hurts picked up right where he left off last year.

The offense is structured to do what he does best. It's not, it's not aesthetically pleasing to those who love offensive firepower

like a san diego la chargers or like a uh kansas city cheap team or like a cincinnati bengo team that's not the way they do things but the way they do things

it fits the quarterback situation that they do have this is why the discourse on jalen hurts being a top five quarterback this is where it comes from

This is where it comes from. This is some of the things that Cam and Ryan Clark and Dan Orlofsky, some of the other guys that went on about it is where it comes from.

But you said something very interesting, Ocho. You know what you said?

He's not asked to do what Joe Burrow, Patrick Mahomes, and those other quarterbacks are asked to do.

So you can't.

So

if you asked Joe Burrow to do what Jalen Hurst did, he wouldn't be a top five quarterback either.

So how about we do whatever is going to help, whatever my quarterback, what is best suited for my quarterback to help our team win. That's exactly it.
He was 19 of 23, above 52.

No touchdowns, no turnovers. We got a clean game from him.

He allowed us to extend downs. Okay, I can live with that because he allowed us to stay on the field.
Now we get more chances to get a touchdown. He scrambled and got two touchdowns.
That's his game.

If you're looking to Jalen Hurts to go out there and have five games where he throws for 300 yards and three touchdowns, that's not going to happen because that's not how their offense is set up.

That's not how they built this team. Now, Joe Burrow might have that.
Patrick Mahomes might have that.

Justin Herbert might have that. But that's not how this team is built.
So to ask him to be something, to be Burrow, to be Mahomes, that's not what he's asked to do. That's not who he is.

But can he can,

if you say, well,

Super Bowl, you see what the Chiefs? The Chief said, no, Saquon's not going to beat us. And then he picked him apart.
Letting you know he can do both.

Letting you know he can do both. It might not be a high volume of passes like the other three teams we named as examples.
If I have to do it, I can still do it.

I can do that. Yeah.
But the likelihood of those guys getting five first downs with their legs.

Right.

You're asking an awful lot, but then you don't play them like you play Jalen Hurts, and you don't play Jalen Hurts like you play them.

So you have to be on your best behavior because Jalen Hurts can beat you with his legs. You know that.

But

I thought he was a commander of the offense. He did a great job.
He threw it away when he needed to throw it away. He didn't put the ball in harm's way.
He got two tush-push first downs.

The scrambling, like I said, he went out the front side because they let him get to his dominant hand. And then the next time they let him get out to the back side and he got a scrambling touchdown.

So, yeah, I thought he played really well tonight. I thought he had great command of the offense, a different voice that's in his ear.

For the third time in what, three years, he's got a different voice. Third time, maybe three, three, four years.
He's got a different voice in his ear.

But I told you, I think this offense is going to struggle a little bit, OJo, for the simple fact they got a new offensive coordinator. He's never called plays before.

Kellen Moore has called plays for very good offenses. Kellen Moore is a damn good play caller.
It remains to be seen if he's a great head coach, but he can call some plays.

You know what's funny is I think the play calling is going to be fine because it's all if your officer coordinator doesn't have ego, if your officer coordinator doesn't have ego and understands what he can and can't call based on your skill set and understanding that I can put the ball in Jalen Hurts' hands and understanding he's not going to turn it over.

He's only going to do what we ask of him and nothing extra. Now, when he needs to make something out of nothing, he can do that too.
But he's not going to be out there like Brett Favre.

You know exactly what I mean. Oh, William Millie.

I think that the problem is, Ocho, this is his first time.

And you know, what's the likelihood of a first-time offensive coordinator calling play for the very first time in his team going to the Super Bowl? You have to have some trial and error.

You have to know what to call, when to call it, down in distance, area of the field. You have to have some hardship.
You have to have some some calluses.

You know, Kellen Moore, it took a while before he developed the rhythm what to call it because, oh, Joe, and you call a play, you already think, okay, this first down, I'm already called that play.

I'm looking at second down, okay. Second, what is it going to be? Second and what? Second, second and 10, second and, you know, five to seven, second and three to five, second and one.

I'm on that play. So I ain't really watching what's going on because I got to think about the next play.

And then I got to see how the game is being go, how the game is going.

so it's just hard, and that's that's my concern. And plus, you know, they lost a lot, they lost it.
That defense lost a lot of players, guys that were disruptive.

That's what they missed. Guys that are that was disruptive.

Based off what we saw tonight, also not only did they lose guys that were disruptive up front, but they lost some important key factors on the back end, too.

And tonight, it looked kind of shaky on one side.

It did,

So, um,

they get to win. That's a A.
And guess what? Friday, Saturday, Sunday off.

But who play tomorrow? The Chargers and the Chiefs, huh? Chargers and the Chiefs in Brazil. Brazil.
Wait, but what time of the game come on in?

I think like tonight. Hold on.

What's the time difference in here in Brazil?

Don't start me to lie.

What's the time difference between here in Brazil? It starts at five o'clock.

It's eight o'clock your time, but it's five on the west coast. Eight o'clock my time, five.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Okay, that's that's good.

I'm down, I'm down here in Cincinnati, so I'm excited. You know, you know, I'm going to,

I'm dying. I went, I went to Bengals, uh, Bengals practice today.
I went to walkthrough.

Yeah, I sat there, I talked with uh, talked with Zach for a little bit. Obviously, saw, saw T, Higgs, saw T and Chase and all them boys.
Right.

I was after after that matter of fact i talked to duke tobin too i told duke he doing one hell of a job i talked i talked to duke and um i saw all the defensive line at e o little place down here on the banks um the whole defensive line all of them shamar stewart tranderson bj hill all of them was in there i guess with like uh you know how sometimes you have positioning outings just Yeah, I like that.

Hey, I like that.

Boy, them boys huge, boy.

And I think I've been away from the game so long when you

get up close on people, like that's that.

Obviously, when we're playing, you're used to it. And I'm like, God damn, man, Shamar Stewart, wide, Trey Hendrickson, wide.
I'm like, what the hell?

I feel the same. Listen, I told BJ Hill, I said, but y'all boys, enjoy it, man.
Get your drink, get your food. I got y'all.

I got y'all. Man, I went to the bathroom and left at the hotel, man.
I went out the back door.

I went at the back door i'm looking i'm looking at what they ordering i'm like whoa whoa what is y'all doing

hey hold on that's how y'all eat i say you know what i thought to myself let me see shamar store you just got paid bj here you making good money tray hendricks you just got 14 million dollar advance or pay raise y'all y'all good on the bill man i went to the bathroom and went out the side door man

And now, superhuman Shaq.

I keep telling them not to say that. I'm no superhuman.
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