Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Ryan Clark saying Tom Brady isn't a generational talent, Powerball at 1.7 BILLION?!

1h 11m

Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Philadelphia Eagles trying to trade for Micah Parsons, Jerry Jones says he’s proud of Brian Schottenheimer’s first game as head coach of the Cowboys and Bill Belichick bans Patriots scouts from UNC games and much more!

0:00- Jerry Jones impressed with Brian Schottenheimer
04:30- Eagles tried to get Micah Parsons
8:05 - Packers in Limbo with Micah’s back situation
14:40 - Belichick banned Pats scouts from UNC games
24:10 - Ryan Clark doesnt think Tom Brady is a generational talent
52:20 Q & Ayyyy

(Timestamps may vary based on advertisements.)

#Club 

See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Listen and follow along

Transcript

Get in the zone, AutoZone.

Summer's almost over, but the heat is pressing on.

If you've got battery trouble, stop by AutoZone for free battery testing.

It may just need a charge, and we'll do that for free too.

If you do need a battery, we've got options starting at just $89.99, and we'll recycle your old battery for free.

Now that's a strong start.

Don't miss the end of summer sale.

Now at AutoZone until September 22nd.

Get in the zone, AutoZone.

Restrictions apply.

Look, school is starting, and I'm just a kid.

And let's be honest, I'm not going to shop for myself.

But we can get up to 40% off back-to-school essentials on Uber Eats.

Did I mention I need poster boards for my science fair, lunch for my field trip, and unlined note cards for my history quiz tomorrow?

Or were they lined?

Anyway, Uber Eats has like all the back-to-school stuff on there.

So come on, let's order now on Uber Eats and get up to 40% off.

We're cool, right?

Cool.

Not literally everything.

Promotion ends 9:16 and is subject to change or cancellation.

Exclusions may apply.

Check out for availability.

Your drive powers your day.

Now let it power change in your community too.

And when it comes to helping children in the Bay Area, Shell can keep your kindness rolling.

When you fill up at the Purple Giving Pump at Shell, a portion of your purchase is donated to charities like the California Fire Foundation.

Download the Shell app to find your nearest giving pump, less than two miles away.

Because giving back doesn't cost you extra.

From September 1st to October 31st, participating Shell stations will donate a minimum of one cent per gallon of the fuel pump from the giving pump or a minimum donation of $300.

Kevin and Rachel, and peanut MMs and an eight-hour road trip, and Rachel's new favorite audiobook, The Cerulean Empress, Scoundrel's Inferno.

And Florian, the reckless yet charming scoundrel from said audiobook.

And his pecs glistened in the moonlight.

And Kevin, feeling weird because of all the talk about pecs, and Rachel handing him peanut MMs to keep him quiet.

Uh, Kevin, I can't hear.

Yellow, we're keeping it PG-13.

MMs, it's more fun together.

If you're a custodial supervisor at a local high school, you know that cleanliness is key and that the best place to get cleaning supplies is from Granger.

Granger helps you stay fully stocked on the products you trust, from paper towels and disinfectants to floor scrubbers.

Plus, you can rely on Granger for easy reordering so you never run out of what you need.

Call 1-800GRANGER, clickgranger.com, or just stop by.

Granger for the ones who get it done.

Jerry Jones says he was so impressed by what he saw from Brian Schottenheimer tonight.

I'm proud of him.

He had us ready to play.

Said he felt sick for him that they didn't get the win for him.

I did.

I thought

Shoddy, he had it ready to play.

I thought he called a really good game.

Look,

24, 34, but Dak had some drops.

Dak had some drops.

Now,

it's interesting, Ocho.

What did you think about

the unnecessary roughness on Ferguson?

I wish they'd have showed it again, but it looked like it was cover six because it looked like they had half and they played quarters.

It might have been quarters, but like that led him across.

He did a little bit.

Hey, can I ask you a question too?

But the rules of the day,

what is he supposed to do?

Well, I don't know what he's supposed to do.

What is John supposed to do?

I guess he's supposed to let him catch it first.

No, that was Blanketship.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

I'm sorry.

Blanketship.

What is he supposed to do in that situation?

You have, when you play football, you have to dislodge the ball.

You have to.

So you're handicapping the defense.

The defense is already handicapped where in a minute, they're going to be playing two-hand touch.

You got to be able to make a play on the ball to dislodge the ball.

Like,

I don't understand what the NFL is doing.

I understand.

You have to protect your players.

You do.

But you also have to allow them and give them a chance to make a play on the ball so it's not a touchdown.

Quarterback got to protect the player.

My job, my job as a defensive player is not to protect an offensive player.

That's your job, quarterback.

Don't you hang him out to drive.

Yeah, you're right.

Oh, Joe, he's bobbling the ball.

Okay, I'm going to go low.

So I don't want to hit him in his head.

But when he bobbles the ball to fall, if his head is here, and I'm going to try to hit him in his body and he bobbles the ball, and guess what?

He comes right down to my air.

So what am I supposed to do?

I don't like it.

I don't like it.

I wish there was

a rule on a play like that that is a bang, it's a bang.

It's a bang-bang play.

It's a bang-bang play.

What is he supposed to do?

Nothing because, like you said, it's bang-bang.

That's what that means.

I don't understand.

I don't understand.

And

people don't understand.

It's like, bro, that's instantaneous.

I mean,

you hesitate because we've seen guys like, oh, try to get an interception and then the guy go out there and catch them.

Bro, don't worry about the interception.

Knock hell out of it.

Yeah, you got to.

You probably going to drop it anyway.

Speaking of interceptions and being more aggressive to the ball, the beautiful one-hand catch, the hurricane.

I'm not even talking about this game.

I'm just saying this.

Yeah, yeah, that's the name.

Boy, the ball's supposed to be going the other way

as a as a safety.

Be aggressive.

That ball's supposed to be going the other way.

You're sitting there waiting for the fall of your hands, and while you're waiting for the fall, he

that's the difference in today's rules, huh?

That's

you know, supposed to know, you know what's supposed to happen?

Yo, your head, your helmet's supposed to be rolling on the sideline.

They supposed to be backing up on the feet.

And them doors are supposed to be swinging, them doors supposed to be swinging open.

And they come out.

That's what's supposed to be.

I'm sorry, Ocho.

That's what's supposed to.

That's the difference in today's game.

The dude catching the ball with one hand.

Hey, laid out backwards, like he on the beach.

Perfect.

He perfect.

That's how the stretcher have him.

Just like that.

That's how to, man, boy.

But see, that's the thing with the rules now.

When you got a targeting, you got defenseless receivers and you got all that, that's what you allow to happen.

You get guys catching balls with one hand.

And pretty cross the middle.

Your era, my era, or any error before?

Who catches it?

Man, please.

Not

that area.

No, no, no, no.

Because that's really bang, bang.

Boy, they're going to decapitate you.

Not me,

yeah.

We had we they had big.

I'm talking about big, go back and look.

When you go back and look at the 90s, you look at the hitters and you look at Atwater, you look at uh, you had Ronnie, you had Atwater, Ronnie, Dennis Smith, you had David Fulcher, you had Mark Carrier, you had Tim Hawk, you had Chuck Cecil.

Man,

you what

okay?

My

area, Donovan Darius, John Lynch, uh, Bob Sanders.

I'm talking about they coming to the party,

yeah.

who knocked who knocked me out here at uh baby stadium i was out cold man please one hand okay

man please well you might have had a difference okay but the other one crossed your heart lord please let me survive this please i promise you i ain't gonna try to make no more pretty catches

According to Adam Chepter, the Eagles were in a great bidding war for Micah Parsons.

However, the Cowboys refused to make a deal with their division rivals.

Ocho, I mean, for somebody that didn't think that much of Micah, he doesn't play the run.

Why would you trade it to the Eagles?

Listen, you know, Jerry ain't no fool.

Jerry ain't no fool.

You understand what you have.

You just didn't want to pay the product on what...

Adobe Acrobat Studio, so brand new.

Show me all the things PDFs can do.

Do your work with ease and speed.

PDF spaces is all you need.

Do hours of research in an instant.

Key insights from an AI assistant.

Pick a template with a click.

Now your preso looks super slick.

Close that deal.

yeah, you won.

Do that, doing that, did that, done.

Now you can do that, do that, with Acrobat.

Now you can do that, do that with the all-new Acrobat.

It's time to do your best work with the all-new Adobe Acrobat Studio.

This is Jonas Knox from Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, and on Fox One, now you can stream your favorite live sports so you can be there live for the biggest moments.

That means NFL Sundays, college football games, NASCAR, MLB postseason, and more.

With Fox One, you'll get it all all live.

Edge of your seat plays, jaw-dropping, high-octane moments, and that feeling like you're right there in the action.

Fox One, we live for live, streaming now.

Today, we're exploring deep in the North American wilderness among nature's wildest plants, animals, and

cows.

Uh, you're actually on an Organic Valley dairy farm where nutritious, delicious, organic food gets its start.

But there's so much nature.

Exactly.

Organic Valley small family farms protect the land and the plants and animals that call it home.

Extraordinary.

Sure is.

Organic Valley, protecting where your food comes from.

Learn more about their delicious dairy at ov.coop.

Lily is a proud partner of the iHeartRadio Music Festival for Lily's duets for Type 2 Diabetes Campaign that celebrates patient stories of support.

Share your story at mountjaro.com/slash duets.

Mountjaro terzepatide is an injectable prescription medicine that is used along with diet and exercise to improve blood sugar, glucose in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus.

Maljaro is not for use in children.

Don't take Maljaro if you're allergic to it or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2.

Stop and call your doctor right away if you have an allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or vision changes.

Serious side effects may include inflamed pancreas and gallbladder problems.

Taking Maljaro with a sulfinyl norrhea or insulin may cause low blood sugar.

Tell your doctor if you're nursing, pregnant, plan to to be or taking birth control pills and before scheduled procedures with anesthesia.

Side effects include nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting, which can cause dehydration and may cause kidney problems.

Once weekly Mount Jaro is available by prescription only in 2.55 7.5 10 12.5 and 15 milligram per 0.5 milliliter injection.

Call 1-800-LILLIRX-800-545-5979 or visit mountjaro.lilly.com for the Mountjaro indication and safety summary with warnings.

Talk to your doctor for more information about Mountjaro.

Mountjaro and its delivery device base are registered trademarks owned or licensed by Eli Lilly and Company, its subsidiaries or affiliates.

This is the story of the one.

As head of maintenance at a concert hall, he knows the show must always go on.

That's why he works behind the scenes, ensuring every light is working, the HVAC is humming, and his facility shines.

With Granger's supplies and solutions for every challenge he faces, plus 24-7 customer support, his venue never misses a beat.

Call quickgranger.com or just stop by.

Granger, for the ones who get it done.

His pride and ego.

That got in the way.

But having a deal with Micah twice a year,

you don't want no problem.

You know, you ain't wanting no problems.

Come on now.

You asked me, Ocho, when we found out he had got traded.

I said it was his ego.

Come to find out, out they called jerry and told jerry whatever it takes we'll take the deal you originally offered in march jerry told them no if he stays here in dallas he's gonna play on the fifth year option or he can leave you see how his ego had done got serious

that's what's being reported

that that micah micah tried to call his representative said okay

whatever it takes you we'll play on that deal we'll We'll do the five years.

Jerry says, no, if he plays here, he's going to play on the fifth year option.

See, I'm pride ain't got in the way now.

And they're talking about, well, if

he rubbed people the way he came to training camp, he rubbed people that he was laying down on the table, the training table behind the bench.

If Charles Haley were here, he would have flipped the table over.

See, that had to be somebody that said that Charles Haley wasn't there.

That had to be somebody in the higher up that was there when Haley was there to know what Charles Haley was like.

Because everybody on that team don't nobody know Charles.

They hear stories, but they don't know Charles.

Like if you played in the league or you've been around Charles, you know Charles.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

So that sounds like somebody like a Steven or somebody like that that says something like that.

But Jerry's pride once, like Michael says, you know what?

Hey, I want to be a cowboy.

Hey, I'll take the five years, X, Y, and Z, so forth and so on.

Fine.

Nope.

If he plays here, he's going to play on the option.

Now,

okay, okay, if I play on the option, you won't franchise me.

No, I ain't say that.

I ain't say nothing.

I ain't say nothing about that.

I said, if you play here this year,

you'll be on the fifth year option.

And I still have two franchise tags.

So that was the best thing.

I think it was the best thing for all parties involved was to go ahead and cut ties.

Back to our originally scheduled programming no jerry was never you know why you know why jerry wasn't gonna trade him because jerry don't believe anything that he said about micah it's just his pride got in the way because let me know let me tell you how i know

bill belichick traded his starting quarterback to buffalo that's how so sure he was that his quarterback was not that he traded him to in the division

Now, who would trade a quarterback if that quarterback, the Chiefs would never trade Patrick Mahomes to Denver, to the Chiefs, to the Raiders.

I'll be excuse me, to the Raiders, the Chargers, ever.

That's how sure he was of Brady.

Lamar Jackson is never going to get traded to the Steelers.

He's not getting traded to the Browns.

That ain't happening.

If you believe that guy, he can't play the run, he stay hurt, trade him.

Yeah,

he's a, hey, listen, he's of no value to you based on what you're telling us.

That's what that's what you made.

That's what you made it look like

they he knew better that was now all of a sudden you just play the run you know you couldn't play the run but i don't remember at any point in time jerry saying anything about the run

and y'all was getting run on getting 300 yards 290 270 280.

putting the blame on him

basically putting the onus on him

and nobody First of all, ain't nobody getting

no rush linebacker to play the run.

All of them hunt the quarterbacks.

That's why you need somebody.

You need somebody to chase down the guy that's playing 50, 60 million dollars.

And eventually, you're about to get to 70.

You need somebody to chase him down.

Matter of fact, could you imagine that though,

thinking about that?

Jalen Carter and Michael Parsons, you think they were disruptive last year?

Hell no.

Jerry didn't want to think about that either.

You think they was disruptive last year?

Hell no.

Man.

Damn,

I'm so so happy it's football season, man.

You don't understand.

Right.

Golly.

The Packers are in limbo with Michael Parsons' back injury.

Matt LaFleur offered no firm commitment regarding the plan for Parson in the opener.

We'll see how he responds every day.

You know, again, we're hopeful, but no guarantees.

Ocho, if you're making the call, do you hold

Micah back out until his back is fully healthy or do you want him to suit him?

And Michael suiting up week one.

Micah suiting up week one.

Listen, I understand he he has some problems.

There are a lot of players.

That was one of the questions I asked today.

I'm not, I'm not saying no names, but how your body feeling?

How you feel going into the season?

Man, come on.

Now, you know, we're coming out of training camp.

Everybody got something going on with it right now, going into week one.

Everybody, including this.

Michael backbothering right now.

Oh, he's going to be all right.

He's had enough time to rest.

He's had enough.

If you got to take an epiduro, he's going to take the epiduro.

But I'll tell you one thing: week one, who are they playing?

The Lions, right?

No, not the

Lions.

i think they play yeah i guarantee you had two sacks against golf i bet you that

i wouldn't what

i would my 47 million my 47 million dollar man

yeah you want it for one game or do you want it for seven do you want it for 50 he's not he not he not he not hurt that bad huh he not hurt

Well, clearly with no firm commitment, he's hurt that bad.

Or the mere fact he's got to take an epidural.

How many guys take epidural?

I understand an epidural at some point in time during the season or playoff, but opening weekend?

Yeah.

Oh, well, yeah.

Yeah.

I think I hear it.

That's tough.

But I think he's

exactly.

You ever had an epidural?

Yeah.

Oh, what?

I was at when my daughter got

daughter was having a baby.

What did that got to do with you having an epidural?

I wanted to know what it felt like.

So when she...

You ain't got to feel, you don't feel nothing.

You ain't pushing up.

I got the epidural to make sure I can see what it felt like

no no no no no no you need to pull a push your watermelon through a peehole that's what you need to do now you'll know what it feels like I don't know I don't know about that part I don't know about that part exactly so no I was trying listen sometimes you have to do situations like this when when my when my oldest yeah my oldest though my oldest daughter was being born I wanted to make the mother of my oldest daughter I wanted to make her feel comfortable so if she got epidural hell I got one too say look look mama I'm gonna do it with you so don't be nervous,

but you ain't get but you're not pushing no baby out, so it don't have no effect on

just the fact that let me show you.

I can, I can do it.

I, I, I'm gonna do, I'm, I'm with you in this journey.

That's all.

That's all.

I know what you mean.

Oh, Joe, all you did was get a shot.

You still ain't do nothing.

Well, you ever had epidural?

Yes, I've had several.

What's wrong with you?

Absolutely.

Back with Sciatica.

Yeah.

It's not the same thing for you as it was for her.

But look,

I would hold Micah out because it's more important for me to have him 14, 15 games, Locho, or to have to go through this every week.

Is he going to play?

Is he not going to play?

Not going to practice.

Yeah.

I know Micah.

I know Micah.

Of course he won't play.

He's playing week one.

No matter what them damn doctors say, no matter what the Packers say, he's playing week one.

i guarantee he's gonna have two sacks

oh he's gonna oh he's gonna open the season off right

i think the thing is sometimes you have to protect it from you have to protect us from us because that's how you know we understand we got a finite period of time to play this game and there is no senior league so once it's over it's over and you want to make sure you maximize every opportunity that you've got to be the best you can possibly be.

But in this situation, Ocho, I'm going to err on the side of caution.

I would go another week.

But I know he wants to play.

He wants to show that, look, he got $120 million at the time of signing.

He's making $47 million.

I mean,

he blew the market away.

They say that, okay, you know, when he said reset the market, he double reset it.

Double reset it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

And that's it, that sciatic nerve, Ocho.

I don't know nothing about that stuff.

I ain't never been hurt, Uncle.

So is it that bad?

Man,

sometimes, Ocho, it gets so bad, man, you pee on yourself and won't even move.

The nerd that you,

boy, you be a leg beat,

leg droop, you have the dead leg.

You know, sometimes you be sleep, Ocho, you try to stand up?

That sadica habit just like that.

Boy, you can't sit down, man.

Boy, that thing have you walking sideways god what how

did that even happen though it was that like but old age or just injury nah nah nah sometimes you know you have a a pinch an impingement and it starts you know start preserving

According to ESPN Bill Abela Bill Belichick has officially banned Patriot scouts from North Carolina practices.

Reportedly, Lombardi informed the Patriots that they would be banned from USC the day before one of their scouts was scheduled to visit in August.

Ocho, this being petty.

Belichick's biggest selling point is that he can get college players ready for the NFL.

So why would he stop an NFL team, Ocho, from properly evaluating?

Ocho, that's petty.

Are you doing that?

Coach Belichick, damn.

You don't side with him?

You don't understand why he's doing it?

No.

So, okay, if that's the the case,

why not ban

Buffalo, Kansas City, Philly, the Cowboys?

Everybody you just named and doing wrong.

There ain't nobody did it wrong.

Obviously,

the man has Spygate, Ocho.

The man has Spygate.

And he liked.

Hold on, hold on.

Hold on, anyway.

Can ask you something?

After Spygate,

did they go on to still win another, how many championships?

Yeah, but it was the fact that they did it and he did it.

Oh, Joe, they sent out a memo memo said anybody tape taping from field level

stop it immediately

and he did

mr craft stuck by it my teacher told me in high school my teacher now

if you're not cheating you're not trying

now i'm just hit it told me what you try

oh joe he said what's it let me ask you a question What's his biggest selling point?

What's his biggest selling point?

What can he sell that no other college coach can sell?

Six championships,

thank you.

And I know

I know players that can play in the NFL.

Yeah, you're right.

Well, let the scouts come see them.

You're right, you're right.

But what?

Oh, Joe, you got 20 years.

Oh, Joe, you got 20 years.

I mean, I'm not sure that Robert Kraft did

if they if they read if they met in different lives.

I'm not so sure Mr.

Kraft would hire Coach Belichick.

It was a perfect situation.

It was a perfect situation.

When I say hired, I shouldn't say that because he did hire him.

He gave a first-round draft pick to get him from the Jets.

I'm not so sure they would be best friends.

I'm not so sure they would even be friends.

But somehow Mr.

Kraft swallowed his ego, swallowed his pride.

Oh, nobody talks.

I mean,

only like, hold on, wait a minute.

I'm cutting all these checks.

I'm paying $200 million in salaries and all these, everything, and I can't say nothing about my team.

And what Mr.

Kraft did?

Took a back seat.

Yes.

Yes.

Listen, they both.

Come on, Coach Belichick.

You also have to understand with Robert Curtis, you know, he's been

taking shots at

Bill.

So Bill, you know,

he feels some type of way, huh?

He feels some type of way.

You got to understand what Bill has been through.

you know i think bill might have been he bill was forced out the toe now

he was

he was replaced with you know what one of one of his players and it just didn't sit right with him so he now he's back in a position of power you know what i ain't letting none of you you know what in because me and mr crab beefing

you know you got you got rappers got beef right now you got you know uh bill and robert beefing everybody beefing right now

mr crab said this week that when coach belichick retires from coaching, the Patriots would give him a statue alongside Tom Brady.

Well, just put up honoring.

When the great 20-year era ended, it was always my intention to commission a statue for both Tommy and Bill when their respective careers were over playing and coaching.

When Bill's career, coaching career ends, we look forward to sitting down with him and having a statue made right next to Tommy.

I like that.

He's not petty.

Now, think about it.

How long did Jerry Jones wait to put Jimmy in the ring of honor?

This man said, I'm building a statue.

Hold on.

Right next to Tommy's.

Hey,

he said it.

You taking the owner's word for it?

Yes, yes, yes.

The moment Coach Belichick retires from coaching football, he'll have a statue.

Absolutely.

It's the greatest run in NFL history.

I absolutely 1000% believe it.

You might be right.

You might be right based on, but most time, most time owners, you know, they'll say things and it's just blowing hot air.

What order you ever said, what art have you ever heard say they would get a statue of a coach?

I heard Jerry Jones say he's the only person that can run the Cowboys organization.

So how's that working out?

You believe it?

Let me ask you a question.

Is he doing it?

Is he doing it?

Did he pass that off to somebody else or did he lie?

No, he doing it.

You said he's the only one that can run it.

He's not running it well, but he's still running it.

He ain't running it.

He might not be running it well, but he's running it.

I don't believe Mr.

I don't I don't believe Mr.

Kraft lied.

I don't believe I'm not like I haven't heard it.

I haven't been privy to every conversation, but I do believe that when Coach Belichick coaching career is over, be it college or NFL,

Mr.

Kraft will commission a statue.

It's the greatest run

in football.

Well, hell.

I mean,

I need to go see Mike Brown.

Y'all ain't win nothing, though, Joe.

I'm the greatest entertainer of all time.

Okay, well, you need to be in the Rocky Roll Hall of Fame, but you ain't going to no damn the Bengals.

We're talking about this.

Y'all ain't win nothing.

Y'all won one debate.

What they got to do with me?

I'm talking about me.

It ain't a statue of 53 people.

It's a statue of me, the greatest entertainer of all time.

Do I know that?

So, what do you, what's your image?

What's your statue gonna say?

What's your statue gonna say?

The greatest entertainment.

Because football is about winning.

We gotta win championships, okay?

So, how many, how many, how many Oscars did you have?

How many who?

Oscars.

I got two.

Tony's.

One.

Grammy.

I used to date a Tony, a girl named Tony.

Yeah, okay.

I get that.

But

if, you know what?

Get you, we're going to put you in the rock and roll all the way.

I was a rock star at that though.

I was a rock star.

Yeah.

But you're talking about this man, this man, this oh, 20 years, six super.

Think about it.

Listen, it's only right,

it's only right.

Based on what Nick Saban did at Alabama,

he got a statue.

Exactly.

It's equivalent with

it is right next to Coach Bryan.

Yeah, you're right.

You're right.

Because both of them got six championships.

You're right.

Coach being petty.

Coach, let that go, Coach.

Coach, you had a

see, Coach, some people only look at the negative and they never look at the good.

And if you just look at the negative, yeah, you'll be resentful.

You'll be resentful.

You'll be resentful.

I'm just the opposite.

I look at the great times that we had.

And even though sometimes, I mean, it's like, damn,

hated it ended like that.

But

come on, coach.

Come on.

I mean, Spy Gate, Deflate Gate, all this other stuff.

He stood when this man, this man got rid of Jimmy G.

The only time really

Mr.

Kraft put his foot down is that he went to him and told him to trade Jimmy Garoppolo.

And then at the end,

Mr.

Kraft sided with Bill Belichick and got Tom up out of there.

And this man sided with you when Tommy had years left.

I'm not saying that he would have won another Super Bowl in New England because the Cubbers was bare.

Edelman was on his last leg.

They had let Amendola go.

Gronk, they wanted to trade Gronk.

Gronk was like, I don't want to practice like this.

He was beaten down.

So I'm not saying that Tom would have won another Super Bowl in New England because the Cubbers were bare.

And he was right by going because he proved proved once and for all who was the reason behind this dynasty.

You have to give one two, the majority of the credit,

even if you give him 51 to 49.

He gets more credit because we saw him leave and go somewhere else and win another one.

And we saw what happened once he left.

It's really that simple.

You're right.

You're right.

It's hard to argue with that.

It's hard to argue with that.

But I still deserve a statue, but go ahead.

Oh,

you know what, Ocho, y'all might have got one if y'all could have won one.

There's nothing I can't control that, huh?

The cards I was dealt, the time and when I came here.

We were bad, boy.

We was bad.

Yeah, y'all were good and terrible.

Ryan Clark says that Tom Brady was not a generational talent at quarterback.

He says, I think John Elway was a generational talent.

I think Patrick Mahomes is a generational talent.

I don't think Tom Brady.

I don't think Drew Brees.

Breeze.

I don't even think Peyton Manning is a generational talent.

I think Andrew Andrew Luck ended up being a generational talent.

I think there are tons of them out there.

I think what he's trying to say is that he's looking at it from a purely thing where I can see.

I can see the big arm.

I can see the size.

I can see the mobility.

When you look at Tom, he doesn't have a big arm.

It's because, see,

the generational talent that Tom has, that Breeze has, that Manning has, you can't see it.

It's right here.

Okay.

I look at John Elway's arm.

I look at John Elway's scrambling ability.

That's generational.

I look at the physical tools of Cam Newton.

We had never seen a guy Cam's size that could throw the ball and could run the ball.

So Ryan is really looking at it from just a physical standpoint of the generation, the talent that he can do.

You'll see as well, yes.

Okay.

All right.

Arm, strength,

size, speed,

that.

So

when you put it like that and you give better context on what Ryan means, and then you put it in that perspective, then

I see what he's saying.

And you can agree because if you look at a Tom Brady, if you look at a Paith Manning, they're not the fastest, had the best arm talent.

You know,

generational Aaron Rodgers would be in that conversation as well.

We're talking about

Tom Brady said it is goddamn self

because you can see because when you watch him spin the ball and you see the talent, the arm talent, and he had legs, he could throw on the move.

Brady didn't really throw on the move.

Go back,

Manning didn't really throw in the move.

Breeze didn't really throw on the move.

Rogers was pinpoint.

It didn't matter.

You can flush, flush him left.

If you flush him right, you get him away from his dominant hands.

He could still roll left, open his hips.

and throw the ball on target.

You flush him out of the pocket to his dominant arm, he can throw the ball on top on point.

You keep him in the pocket, he can change arm slots.

He can go over the top, he can go side, he can go three quarters.

It didn't matter.

So, I think, and like I said, this is Ryan's saying, I believe those because I believe Ryan is speaking purely from a standpoint of physical things that I can see.

I can't say,

I mean,

arms, arm they don't neither, all neither one of those three, neither.

Those three didn't have no strong arm.

They weren't the most mobile.

They couldn't run.

They look at Josh Allen as generational.

He's six foot five.

He could run.

He's got an arm.

He can throw it through a hurricane.

They look at him as generational because he has physical traits that you can see.

What Breeze and Brady and Manning possess, you can't see it, don't you?

So

that's, I think that's the thing.

And And people like, hold on.

You say they're not generational?

You're talking about maybe

two who are going to be, ain't getting out of the top five.

Two of those guys that you mentioned not getting out of the top five.

Brady's going to be one, and Manny's going to be somewhere between two and five.

It all depends.

You got him in front of Montana, you got him behind Montana.

You got him in front of Mahomes, you got him behind Mahomes.

But that's it.

So I think for me, like I said, I mean,

we heard the conversation.

Chad would be interested to see what you guys think.

But it's interesting that he's like, they're not generational.

Actually,

Brady and Manning would be what you call transcendent.

It's like when you look at like

people look at Jokic, they're like, well, he can't jump.

He ain't got no muscle at all.

You look at LeBron, he's generational.

You see a guy six foot nine can jump out the gym, could do all this stuff physically that I can see, Ocho.

Shaq generational, 7'1, could run, dominate, pull the backboard down, muscular.

So I think, and I don't want to speak for him, but I say I think Ryan is saying from a physically what I can see, I don't see great arm talent.

I don't see outstanding arm talent like Mahomes, like Josh Allen, like John Elwake.

I don't see legs like Lamar Jackson, Jalen Hurts, or Randall Cunningham, or one of those guys that were mobile.

I don't see that.

I don't see a guy that can try and change arm slots.

I don't see a guy that's just as effective in the pocket as he is out of the pocket, like I see Aaron Rodgers.

So that's my two cents.

That was his take on it.

I think those guys are.

I think,

like I said, for me,

Brady and Manning is transcendent.

They're not generation because the generation is

25 years.

These guys are transcendent.

So

that's what I think about that.

Andrew Luck.

Wait, Andrew Luck?

No.

No.

See, here's the thing.

Let me ask you a question.

When people looked at Tom Brady at Michigan, nobody said he was transcendent.

Nobody said he was generational.

People thought Tom talked Peyton Manning was going to be generational.

They talked about him since he got enrolled in school.

They talked about him being the number one pick.

The same thing with Andrew Luck.

The same thing with Trevor Lawrence.

Think about it.

When Trevor Lawrence set foot on Clemson, they say when he comes out, he's going to be the number one overall draft pick.

I've been damned.

The same thing they said about Luck, the same thing they said about Elway.

To this day, I think Mel Kuyper still says John Elway is the highest-rated quarterback that he's ever graded.

He's received the highest grade,

but John had things you could see.

You saw the arm,

you saw the legs,

things that you can see.

Right.

You can't cut their head open and look at their brain.

You just know they're picking your ass apart.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I totally understand what Ryan was saying, especially when you put it

in a better context like that, you know, with the comparison of Aaron Rodgers and

the other players that he views as

generational talents.

But

Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, they stand alone in the class for their own.

For sure.

There's some other quarterbacks up there with him, but generational, eh.

Because when you look at Joe Montana, look at Joe.

He had to, he had no Cam body, he have no Mahomes arm, he didn't have Lamar legs.

That's that Joker was mentally

banged on three steps,

the ball was gone.

Five steps, the ball was gone.

Adobe Acrobat Studio, so brand new.

Show me all the things PDFs can do.

Do your work with ease and speed.

PDF spaces is all you need.

Do hours of research in an instant.

With key insights from an AI assistant.

Take a template with a click.

Now your Prezo looks super slick.

Close that deal, yeah, you won.

Do that, doing that, did that, done.

Now you can do that, do that with Acrobat.

Now you can do that, do that with the all-new Acrobat.

It's time to do your best work with the all-new Adobe Acrobat Studio.

This is Jonas Knox from Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, and on Fox One.

Now you can stream your favorite live sports so you can be there live for the biggest moments.

That means NFL Sundays, college football games, NASCAR, MLB postseason, and more.

With Fox One, you'll get it all live.

Edge of your seat plays, jaw-dropping, high-octane moments, and that feeling like you're right there in the action.

Fox One, we live for live, streaming now.

Today, we're exploring deep in the North American wilderness among nature's wildest plants, animals, and

cows.

Uh, you're actually on an Organic Valley dairy farm where nutritious, delicious, organic food gets its start.

But there's so much nature.

Exactly.

Organic Valley's small family farms protect the land and the plants and animals that call it home.

Extraordinary.

Sure is.

Organic Valley, protecting where your food comes from.

Learn more about their delicious dairy at OV.coop.

Lily is a proud partner of the iHeartRadio Music Festival for Lily's duets for Type 2 Diabetes Campaign that celebrates patient stories of support.

Share your story at mountjaro.com/slash duets.

Mountjaro terzepatide is an injectable prescription medicine that is used along with diet and exercise to improve blood sugar, glucose, in adults with type 2 diabetes mellitus.

Mount Jaro is not for use in children.

Don't take Mount Jaro if you're allergic to it or if you or someone in your family had medullary thyroid cancer or multiple endocrine neoplasia syndrome type 2.

Stop and call your doctor right away if you have an allergic reaction, a lump or swelling in your neck, severe stomach pain, or vision changes.

Serious side effects may include inflamed pancreas and gallbladder problems.

Taking Manjaro with a sulfinyl norrhea or insulin may cause low blood sugar.

Tell your doctor if you're nursing pregnant plan to be or taking birth control pills and before scheduled procedures with anesthesia.

Side effects include nausea, diarrhea, and vomiting, which can cause dehydration and may cause kidney problems.

Once weekly Manjaro is available by prescription only in 2.55, 7.5, 10, 12.5, and 15 milligram per 0.5 milliliter injection.

Call 1-800-LILIRX

or visit Mountjaro.lilly.com for the Mountjaro indication and safety summary with warnings.

Talk to your doctor for more information about Mount Jaro.

Mountjaro and its delivery device base are registered trademarks owned or licensed by Eli Lilly and Company, its subsidiaries or affiliates.

This is the story of the one.

As head of maintenance at a concert hall, he knows the show must always go on.

That's why he works behind the scenes, ensuring every light is working, the HVAC is humming, and his facility shines.

With Granger's supplies and solutions for every challenge he faces, plus 24-7 customer support, his venue never misses a beat.

Call quickgranger.com or just stop by.

Granger, for the ones who get it done.

He throw the ball so you can catch it and run.

So I think that's what he's, you know, he's...

Like I said, I don't want to speak for Ryan.

He said what he said.

I didn't see it.

I just saw the thing and everybody was it was trending, so I was like, Okay, well, what RC say today?

Uh, and then, and then I heard what he said that those guys weren't transcendent, and so I was like, okay,

is he looking at it from a physical, a clearly physical

things that he can

look at it, even come up with that, but with um, with saying that it has to be what you can see, it has to be that if factor that makes something generational, it's based on the visual, that's it, because that's the the only way to gauge it.

Right.

So,

but I think

to say that now, after all that they've accomplished, they're at bare minimum generational.

At bare minimum.

After you see what they're accomplished.

Now, if you wanted to, ocho, if you had not knowing what you know now, if you just see those guys in college, I might could agree with you.

I'm not looking at Jew Breeds as generational.

Bro, Bro, he's not even, he's barely six foot tall.

He ain't got no big time arm.

He's not that mobile.

So I'm not looking at him and thinking that.

I look at Cam Newton, six foot five, 250, running 4'5,

can throw the ball 70 yards,

can run like a fullback.

He's a defensive lineman, tight end, and a quarterback's body.

I'm looking at Josh Allen.

I'm looking at the physical traits.

And it's like, physically, he's generational.

We ain't seen anything like this.

Who had we ever seen like Cam?

Who have we seen like Josh Allen that size with those types of arms?

Yeah,

they don't come around often.

I know that.

And sometimes, like, when we look at generational, we're looking at for things that we haven't seen before.

You see what I'm saying, Ocho?

We're looking for things that we haven't seen.

Have we ever seen anything like Cam?

And we might not ever see it again.

I thought

unless you're taking Josh Allen.

I thought we'd see it with our young young bull down in indiana

i thought we'd see it again oh oh josh uh richardson yeah okay yeah

so that's it i mean uh hey

amari cooper has informed the las vegas raiders he intends to play

Just days before the team opens the 2025 season at New England, Raiders OC Chip Kelly said Cooper called Coach Pete Carroll in the morning to say he was done playing.

It's unfortunate because he's a heck of a football player.

He knows in his heart what he wants to do, so I wish him the best.

Hey, what happened, man?

I think that always, Ocho, to be honest, you asked this question.

I think that always rubbed a lot of people the wrong way.

They saw the physical talent, but they didn't see the burning passion.

That's what you heard about.

You heard about that

in Las Vegas the first time.

That's why they traded him.

You heard about that at the Cowboys.

That's why they did what they did.

Immensely.

Rock runner extraordinaire.

Great run after the catch, but a burning desire.

I don't think that was it, though.

I think he was coming in to be wide receiver number one,

and things weren't how they probably made it seem they would be once he got there.

And he realized, okay, this is not.

They're the Raiders.

You're not going to the Eagles.

You're not going to Kansas City.

Who called him?

Look at the team that called you.

Shouldn't that tell you something or something ain't right?

Then you got, you got, Gene.

I guarantee, I know I'm right.

I know I'm right.

I'm going to ask him.

I'm going to ask him.

You know, you know, you know, Amari from the crib, right?

He's from Miami.

Yeah,

I'm going to ask him.

I mean, just, it's a great situation.

Geno Smith, Aston Genty.

I'm assuming you would be wide receiver number one.

Brock Bowers.

Brock Bowers.

I mean, that's a great situation to be in.

That's, I mean, to me, Las Vegas, I mean,

man.

I think, Ocho, also, look, if your heart ain't in it, it's hard to fake this game, Ocho.

It is.

It's hard to roll your ass up out of bed.

Hey, these licks hurt.

And

you gotta, you gotta, it's gotta be a desire.

You gotta jump out of bed.

Because that's why people have success when they enjoy doing what they're doing.

When you jump up out of bed, when you look forward to it, oh, Joe, there was never a day that I didn't look forward to getting my ass up going to going to practice or going to the game.

I have a question.

Yes.

Did Amari even have a chance to practice with them?

Did he have a chance to practice?

Yeah, he practiced.

Yeah.

I get, you know what?

He's not, he's not, he could see this is not going to be what I thought it was.

For one, Jacoby Myers is still there, right?

Yes.

Number 10.

Number 10.

I think he's, I think, number Deontay Thornton.

I don't know if I'm saying his name the right way, but young bull can go.

And I think he might be the one they're viewing as wide receiver number one.

So Mari didn't like the situation they were putting him in.

You knew that before you went there.

I'm just saying, I guarantee that's why he said, you know what?

Nah, this ain't it.

Oh, Joe.

This ain't it.

Time, let me ask you a question.

When the free agent window opened up, who called him?

When team started OTAs, who called him?

When training camp started, who called him?

That don't tell you nothing.

I got you.

I'm just telling you why he said that.

Nah, this ain't it.

I'm going to hang it up.

This ain't it.

Hey, but I know one thing.

He knows them.

They got a

nice little setup over there.

Yeah.

If your heart ain't in it, you should.

That's what you should do, Ocho.

Hang it up.

Don't go out there, waste them people's time, waste your time, take money from them, take a position from somebody else, let somebody that desire, have a burning desire that wants to be out there, let them go get that.

Amari Cooper's made tons of money.

He good.

But if your heart ain't in it,

go ahead and step aside.

Go ahead and step aside.

That's why we do what we do at Nightcap.

I get excited to do nightcap.

I don't like, oh, man, damn, we got to do nightcap tonight.

Damn.

Call out.

Damn, I got to go.

I got to go on the road,

tape another club Shay Shay.

I don't say that.

Because I enjoy what I do.

Now,

if and when there come a time,

it's going to be the Ocho and somebody else show.

Ocho and somebody, that cap Ocho and I told you, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

Unk, you can't leave because we haven't even started, we haven't even, we haven't even

gone into our second half of our show.

Ocho, you do realize I'm 57.

That's going to make it so fun.

How long you want me?

How long you want me to do this?

No, not Uncan Ocho.

I'm talking about our other show, the Adventures, the Adventures of Unk and Ocho, outdoor activities.

We ain't even got.

how long you want me to do this.

I'm 57.

Still, you ain't asking me.

Did you ever see the movie Two Grumpy Old Men?

That's going to be us.

That's going to be us.

Two Grumpy Old Men.

Oh, Jack Lemon and Royal Tom Athens.

Yeah, man.

I'm telling you, we listen, we're going to do this thing to the wheels fall off.

Again,

we don't have anything.

Everything that's being filmed content-wise, it's all the young kids.

Like, we have to have something for our age group, for the old folks, doing stuff the old folks like to do.

You know, jumping out of planes, you know,

going fishing, barbecuing, listening to Frankie Beverly and Maze.

First of all, you don't know how to skew.

Huh?

You don't know how to barbecue.

Oh, nah, I'm not going to be.

You're going to cook.

Man, I definitely don't know how to barbecue.

I'm going to be the DJ.

I'm going to be the DJ.

I'm going to invite the old folks.

I hire somebody to barbecue.

Okay, that'll that'll work.

That'll work.

That'll work.

That'll work.

We got something coming.

We got something planned, Ocho.

We got something.

Yeah, yeah.

Anthony Richardson agent, I guess it's Derek John Jackson, met in person last week with Jim Chris Ballard to clear the error.

Jackson called the meeting a very constructive opportunity to let feelings be known, according to ESPN.

The report says a trade was not requested, but was broached in the meeting, and that Ballard reiterated the Colts don't plan to trade Richardson.

No, hold on.

I'm trying to let it was constructed, but let feelings be known.

You got Ocho,

if Richardson had taken care of his business, would we even be there?

Absolutely not.

So, so it's so, so, another, so we're gonna put, we're gonna shift all the blame and all the onus on the Colts.

So, what is the culpability of the player?

We can't say, ocho, they ain't give him no weapons.

Well, he got three good ones over there now.

He got a

Pro Bowl, all-pro running back.

He got a solid offensive line.

Three, no, actually, four good receivers.

I'm trying to figure out, so, so, and they're talking about to let feelings be known, your feelings should be hurt.

You should be disappointed that he allowed himself to be in this situation.

Coach, you knew he was a project you said that and you said it's going to take time yet you threw his ass out there you didn't have a vet to compete with him and you threw him out there opening week so you're just as responsible he is

yeah

he can only do what he can do he only can do what he knows

you said he was a project when you took him well if he's a project you let him develop

You don't feed him to the you don't feed him to the wolves.

I don't have a little patience, huh?

Not these days.

Well, you can't make him a project then.

You got to take a proven commodity.

Or as close to a proven commodity as you can get.

So many of them.

It's only so many of them.

You got to understand,

finding a good quarterback, not a great one, finding a good quarterback that you can feed around, it ain't like picking apples off the goddamn tree in the summer.

It ain't that easy, which is why it's so difficult for teams to find someone they can build a franchise around for a decade.

It's hard to find your next Lamar Jackson or your Josh Allen.

Hell, you Joe, the Bengals have been pretty good when it comes to quarterback and receivers.

Everybody can't be Green Bay.

We've only had three quarterbacks in the goddamn past 30 years.

It's difficult.

Here's the problem.

Normally,

people take projects like they did Lamar.

They said Lamar was going to be a project.

They took him with a 30-second pick.

You don't take him with the third pick like they did in San Francisco, like like they did in Indy.

You take a project with the third pick in the draft, with the fourth pick in the draft.

I have a question.

Every scout, every GM, every owner

that looked at Lamar Jackson at Louisville and said, this is the project, has no position,

has no business being in whatever position they in.

There's no way you saw Lamar Jackson play at Louisville and thought him coming to the NFL.

He's a project at the quarterback position.

Well, I can see why they saw that because even though he threw the ball, they're like,

could he eventually throw the ball from the pocket?

And he's shown.

I was the guy with like, look, I was like, look, he could play quarterback.

If he can't hack it at quarterback, then move.

But

I'm going to play that role first.

And if I don't succeed at that, Ocho, whatever y'all want me to play, y'all want to play wide receiver, y'all want to play DP, y'all want to play running back, I'll do that, but I'm going to get a crack at this quarterback first

because

y'all let Tebow play quarterback, so I'm damn sure gonna play quarterback.

I think I could throw the ball better than him.

With that being said,

who does San Francisco trade all those picks for?

What?

Trey Lance.

It's able to projo.

You move heaven and earth for a project?

Oh, hell no.

You moved that for a Joe Burrow.

You You move that for a Trevor Lawrence.

Don't move that for a guy that played six, that started 16 games

and then sought out the next.

Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

And so that's

my problem with the Colts is that you knew what you was drafting and then you was like, okay, go.

This guy is like the air parent of a company.

He's going to be CEO one day.

when the dude get on the job you make him ceo tomorrow no and then you wonder why he didn't succeed bro you said you're gonna let him grow into the role you say you're gonna let him transition into the role

you didn't put you don't put him in the road immediate role immediately you have to understand when you take players as high as they took anthony richardson people and jobs on the line

people and jobs on the line so they have no choice but to put them out there and see what you can get.

Am I going to get a return on my investment?

Because I got to put my investment out there right now i don't have the patience i need i want to win right now

i want to win right now

look what green bay did

did they put aaron rodgers out there right away no they didn't have to look what did they put did they

did they did they did they put lawrence uh uh uh love

that's oh yo my point is is that what you do is that now you get him out there now you find out that like tray lash really he he's not a friend he's not going going to be a franchise quarterback.

How do you get that taste out of your mouth?

It's a toss-up.

Now, you've seen two years of work for Richardson.

I know they say him publicly, but do you actually think they think he's this guy gonna be a franchise quarterback on your

damn

Damn.

Think about it.

Patrick Mahomes.

They broke.

They changed Patrick Mahomes a lot of his mechanics.

Now look at it.

Didn't start.

Then the next year he goes wins an MVP.

He went crazy, boy.

That's not an accident, OJo.

It's not.

Wow.

Tim Tebow and Anthony Richardson have identical starts to their careers.

Anthony Richardson is 8-7.

Tim Tebow 8-6.

Tim Tebow has 23 passing and rushing touchdowns.

Richardson has 21.

Tebow has 15 turnovers.

Richardson has 17.

Rush and pass yards.

Tim Tebow has 3,123.

Anthony Richardson has 3,026.

Completion percentage, 47.4 for Tebow,

50.6 for Richardson.

Hey, I have a question.

Yes.

Are those numbers good?

No, they're awful.

They are.

You ain't had to say it like that.

I just

like you're supposed to ease your way into answering that.

No, but they're not good.

And nobody thought Tebow was going to be a franchise quarterback.

You, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

You didn't think Tebow would be a franchise quarterback coming out of Florida after that season he had his senior year?

Okay.

Okay.

Okay.

Even after that game he had against Cincinnati where he threw for 400 yards?

No.

You got to be able to throw the football consistently and accurately to beat that in the NFL.

And if you can't,

you're not going to run your way to a championship.

Those days are over.

That is true.

Yeah, I mean, Tebow did win a playoff game.

Yeah, I remember.

Damari.

Tim Tebow wanted to want a division.

It was that defense, though.

Huh?

That defense was really good.

The defense was really good.

so

damn

richardson need to get with a uh find him a george whitfield or tom house work with some mechanics and and and and and and put time in the film room i don't i you know but he has to want to study film watch film try to get better

he has to want it

We say this all the time.

You can't want something for someone more than they want it for themselves.

Well, maybe this might be a wake-up call.

i don't i don't think he understands understands the seriousness of it's your third year like this season is your make it a bricky year what it was supposed to be obviously not starting and then they're not trading anthony richardson why are they not trading him because they don't really fully trust daniel jones they trust

well they're not trading him ocho because even if you do trade him you'll never get the value that you that you take a fourth round pick a first a fourth the fourth pick of the draft you think somebody would give you a first round no question what type of draft pick you think somebody gave you for Anthony Richardson right now?

No,

third or fourth at the highest.

You know what?

They would hang up the phone.

You hang up the phone.

What they would give you for him.

But still, they're not going to let him go for the simple fact.

There's no answer if Daniel Jones starts playing bad.

There's nothing else to go to.

So we have to have someone to fall back on if things don't go right.

Ocho,

you know, Powerball 1.7 billion.

Yeah,

if I had 5,900, I'd buy $5,900.

We're going to win that too.

I'm telling you what's going to happen.

I can see the future.

I can see the future.

I'm going.

Well, I can't buy no tickets.

Why not?

You can't buy tickets in Vegas.

You can't play lottery with the casino.

I'll play for you.

I'll play for you.

I'll play for you.

And I told you when I win, I got you.

I got you.

I'm going to win.

I'm going to win 1.7.

I tell you what.

Would I win?

I'm going to pay off all your bills.

All who bills?

No, I'm I'm paying your house.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

I'm going to win.

I already know what I'm going to do.

I told you.

No, I'm going to move right next to you.

I'm going to buy the house next to you.

Ain't no house next to me.

Play my music loud.

Let my dogs run in your yard.

I have all my kids come knock on your door.

Hey, I might even take me a poop in your yard.

Okay, I steal your dogs.

Hey, you remember that movie with Samuel Jackson when he was that neighbor?

He was cutting out of each other by the way.

Lake View Terrace.

Lake View Terrace.

That's

me.

Okay.

Okay.

Hey, hey, hey, he's hell in that movie, boy.

He gave buddy hell.

Yeah.

You don't have the truth based on the true story, too, Ocho.

All right, Ocho.

It's time for our final segment of the evening.

Chat, thank you guys for staying with us.

We know it's almost two o'clock on the East Coast, man.

Well, it's after two o'clock on the East Coast, and you guys are still with us, man.

We can't thank you guys enough.

So, thank you very much.

It's time for QA.

Oh, yeah q a

hey q a

uh titan guy said chat don't go in the woods with shay you owe him 5900.

oh shoot and you think see i wasn't thinking like that so you think he might do something to me like i might come up missing okay i i like that i like that i like but see it came because it's being filmed you know it's being filmed we're gonna have our own youtube and twitch channel so it's gonna be live that adventures of

we can go cut

i'm i'm just thinking about all the things we could do man hunting grizzlies deer squirrels

oh that's that oh boy it's so much untapped potential that's out there that that like nobody's touched these spaces in these lanes that we can dominate in but go ahead

okay Aaron Owens said Jayla Carter's wild for getting ejected.

At least

make a play or two before you crash out aaron you're absolutely right i don't know if i've i don't know if i've ever seen a play seen that happen though joe get ejected before the game no during yes before no yeah

excuse me howard bell said not gonna lie if jalen carter teammate i'm looking at him sideways the eagles held their own but it almost cost him the game yes it absolutely did almost two live underscore counter said dak deserved a fine for instigating but jalen low-key dumb for retaliity i'm an eagles fan but i'm cool with the suspension.

I'm telling Dak, I'll see you real soon if I'm Jalen Carter.

The lineman ain't defending your spit back.

I'm just going to go out there and get me, you know, free rush.

Yeah, exactly.

That's what I said, Ocho.

Don't even worry about it, Dak.

I get you.

I get you.

I'm going to get you.

Aaron Jones said,

to say Dak baited him, you admitted he was wrong.

Just stop, Shannon.

That's the whole objective, aaron yeah it's debate to get him to do something if that's the point if i can get you thrown out of the game yes

yes yes yes yes that's my job that's why we talk trash to get you out of your game yeah

man crazy what if he spits at you and smirks which looks like dak did disrespectfully long you spit on the ground i don't give a damn what you spit

longer

than y'all y'all still y'all oh joe they tried to they tried the way to make jayla called the right in this situation you know

they are

you know who you know who i might spit on

i'm gonna spit on debo

Now

I'm gonna make him fight me.

I'm gonna make him fight him.

He's gonna fight you all right.

You gotta No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Because

I want him extremely mad.

I want him angry.

I want him to exert so much energy trying to hurt me where I use it against him.

Because I'm going to be nice and calm and relaxed.

I don't know.

Not no MMA.

You ain't going to be nice, calm, and relax.

Man, I don't mean.

Man.

All right.

You don't believe in your co-host?

Yeah, I bet the chat believe in me.

Chat, come February time.

Guarantee you, I beat Debo ass.

I guarantee you.

Tell you, man.

Man ain't got no, he don't got he don't got no combat sports background like me.

Meep said, Dak just be spitting everywhere he goes.

On the sidelines, you see him spitting.

The amateur said, Dak got that hot to it.

He should be happy.

Galactic Ghoul said, Go birds.

Dak deserve it.

John Maybain,

I think that tackle by Dak saved the touchdown on a fumble is underrated.

You're absolutely right.

Really good play.

48, getting ready to throw the rate, getting ready to turn around.

Turn back, bro.

Ain't nobody in front of you to block.

Somebody's going to come from the back.

Money made Parcelist Cowboys held Saquon to 60 yards rushing.

Stevens said Zach Bond is an all-pro, not some chump.

He's not known for speed, though.

I didn't say it was a chump.

I know he's a phenomenal player.

Quentin Mobley, Mobley, Ocho, please make sure you change Miles Sanders' speed on Madden like yesterday.

Not tomorrow, not Saturday, but yesterday.

ASAP love the show.

Yeah, whatever his speed is, Ocho, you got to dock him by five or six.

No, five or six too much.

I'll dock him by three.

By three.

Three, three.

What is the speed?

I don't know.

I'm not sure what it is.

I'm not sure what it is.

Brother Seaman says, Ocho, breath be stinking.

Damn, Ocho.

How you know?

I don't know.

He's just making up stuff.

You know, nobody, nobody can.

Okay.

Jamar Thomas said, Philly's secondary, sketchy.

Detroit will run them,

will run to them, score on them.

I don't respect Philly or Jalen Carter.

You got him at a 90, Ocho.

For real?

On speed.

That's kind of fast, too, now.

Exactly.

You got got to drop him down to 91 on acceleration drop him down to 88

88 my ass 72.

sturd dodge said do you think herbert can take a step he needs to become an elite quarterback if he wins a playoff game or two does he slide into the big four who

Justin Herbert.

You know, they're going to plug Justin Herbert into that big four based on intangibles alone.

They're going to keep

putting them in there.

Keep putting them in there in conversation.

Hell, Dan Olofsky today.

You saw him talk about his next five?

Justin Herbert is in that next five, along with C.J.

Shroud and Jaden Daniels.

Hell, he even had Kyler Murray in there.

That injury kind of set Kyler back and then

losing D-Hop.

I mean,

he got

Marvin Harrison Jr.

now.

So

it'll be interesting to see what he looks like this year.

Look, he was MVP.

I mean, he's

offensive rookie of the year.

He's been

to the Pro Bowl.

I mean, I think Kyler Murray's been to the Pro Bowl, hadn't he?

I think he's a, he's a,

but he's,

he's not just going to beat you in the pocket, Ocho.

His legs,

he's one of those quarterbacks like a Lamar and a Josh Allen that his legs are dangerous.

Yeah, he's a two-time Pro Bowl player.

So I would have thought he'd have already been there by now.

Me personally.

MSQ, oh, Uncanocho, if you had a game with an all-time NFC versus an all-time AFC team, who comes out on top?

Oh, my goodness.

Man, NFC got some deep.

They made it look.

You think they got LT, Reggie, and Tyne

with Dick Bucas.

So

that's your defense.

So you're going to put Montana, Jerry Rice,

Walter Payton, probably Barry.

Damn, I forgot that that is all NFC.

Shoot, yeah.

Uh, uh, tight end, the AFC got the tight ends

because all the tight ends, because most of the tight ends are in the Hall of Fame.

You got Big Kellen, Ozzie, myself,

Gates, Gonzo.

You're gonna have Gronk, you're gonna have Kelsey.

You got Casper, who's in the hall.

So most of the time,

I'm trying to think who's all in the heart.

You got Charlie Sanders, and you got Jack.

Shell, I only think you got.

And Dicka, because you got Mackie, so most of the tight ends.

That's a good one.

AFC quarterback is going to be Brady.

Who the running backs?

And you got Moss was in the NFC.

Yep.

I think the NFC go to

what you think, it OJ.

You got Rick.

You got, think about it.

You got Aaron Donald.

You got Reggie White.

You got Lawrence Taylor.

You got Time.

You got Bucas.

You got Ronnie Lott.

They got to be some.

I'm trying to, I'm trying.

It's hard for me.

I'm trying to think.

My brain's scrapped right now.

You got Deacon Jones.

You got Merlin Olson.

That's all NFC, though.

I know.

That's what I'm saying.

Running back, you got Walter Payne, you got Emmett Smith, you got Eric Dickinson, you got Barry Sanders.

Them boys loaded, boy.

I mean, AFC, AFC.

I mean,

you know the old school players a little better than I do.

AFC, I know we got some on that side, too, now.

Yeah, I'm trying to think.

Running backs.

AFCs.

O.J.

Simpson will proc O.J.

Simpson.

Who else in the Hall of Fame?

Edrin James.

E.J.

Jerome Bettis.

Quarterbacks, you got Brady.

Tight ends, we got the tight ends.

We're going to dog walk up in tight ends.

Who are you going to be your wide receivers?

Oh, yeah, we got LT, LaDania.

who you gonna be wide receiver for the alc we got moss

i'm going moss and lanc no new england moss

what about minnesota

we're going new england moss the moss that scored 23 touchdowns trying to think who else we got afc receivers uh

a b a b

lance all worth um

with hell andre reed

yeah

hey where eric

I'm in the AFC.

I'm going to AFC.

Where Eric Moe's at, man?

I don't know.

Shizzo Flex says, all I know is Burrow get passes for missing the playoffs with a bad defense, but in 23, Hurts had the 31st ranked defense and still won 11 games.

He ain't lying.

Quentin May says, what do you think the best separate, who got the best separation tonight?

Oh, you talking about wide receiver?

Didn't look like a whole lot of people because

on 19 completion, you had 152 yards that's

that's less than seven that's less than eight yards of completion

that ain't good so it don't seem like a whole lot of people got celebration

uh

e cambridge says cd just showed why jerry rice is the goat he puts that game away uh on ice and catches uh the pickings one-hander

Yeah, I mean, look,

CD, you got to make those catches.

It's really that simple.

Let's not belabor it.

Ojo and I, we hit on this early in the show.

CD got to make those catches.

He's good enough to make those catches.

He expects himself to make those catches.

Dak and Jerry Jones definitely expect him to make those catches.

And Cowboy Nation expects him to make those catches.

Dagnante Cobbins says, I don't care who spit first or second.

If you spit on me, it's going to be a balloon release right where you spit at.

A balloon release.

Oh, last year, you let Ocho know how sorry the Bengal were and made Ocho cry.

Please go ease on Ocho this year.

No, we good.

We good this year.

We good this year.

Who y'all play this year?

I mean, just in general, we're going to be good.

The Bengal.

The Bengal.

Oh, y'all got a Cleveland right.

Miles Garrett had about three sacks.

No,

I give Miles Garrett one sack.

I give him one.

You ain't gonna give him nothing.

He's gonna get that on his own, but he's gonna get it up.

With all due respect to him and that defense, the Browns defense is good.

I ever hear people always making jokes in the chat.

Oh, the Browns suck.

You think when you think about the Browns, listen, the Browns front four are really good.

And they're

that Denzel Ward,

man, I done talked enough about him, Mo.

He's special.

Northbound media said football is back.

Love Nightcap.

Need, need me, Sterling jersey.

Good luck finding it.

I don't know if they still make 84 Sharp jerseys in Green Bay, but okay.

Bro Morris said, Uncle Nocho, what book, not the Bible, changed your life and would you do a handout to others as a gift?

Okay, change your life and you, and I guess he said, would you or do you hand out others as gift?

Yeah, I don't want them to give so.

Oh, man.

Trying to think what book would I give someone other than the Bible.

I'm trying to think what hell book have I read.

I hadn't read a book in so long.

Trying to think.

I did.

I think I read Rich Dad, Poor Dad many, many years, many, many years ago.

I'm trying to think what book that I read that I really enjoy that I would recommend somebody.

I ain't read that.

I just.

Yeah.

That's dope.

Yeah.

They probably left it in here.

We're going to have to get back to that.

I don't know.

I'm trying to think what book I'll actually give someone.

Dr.

Frankie L.

Bellamy said, oh, that's crazy how I just asked you about Michael Irving, and then boom, he was on Club Shay Shay.

With that intuition, I brought a lottery ticket.

Can't wait to see y'all debate on that.

That was funny, boy.

Boy, that's that thing that was funny.

When Irv says he put, I put that million-dollar check on that.

Babe, that's but look here.

I can honestly say that man has not changed he's been that way since the day i met him at the pro bowl in 91.

no what do i meet mike 92 92

he he's just a great guy john marshall said love to show got the hoflb packaging is amazing john appreciate the support man thank you thank you very much

That concludes this episode of Nightcap.

We want to thank each and every one of you.

We know it's extremely late.

We cannot thank you enough for showing your support, and that's why we're special.

That's what makes you special.

Because nobody else at this time of night, but you chose to spend a couple of hours with us, and we can't thank you enough.

So thank you, Chad.

Give yourself a round of applause because you were special tonight.

We really appreciate that.

NFL, don't delay no more games.

Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Night Camp.

I'm your favorite home, Shannon Sharp, my partner and co-host.

He's Liberty City's own Mattings Ratings Adjuster, Bingo's Ring of Fame Honoree Pro Bowler.

He's Chad ochocinko johnson please make sure you hit that subscribe button please make sure you hit the like button and do us all a favor go subscribe to the nightcap podcast feed wherever you get your podcast from we'd like to thank each and every one of you again for your support and your continued support because of you nightcap is what it's become uh make sure you check out my portier shade by la portier if you can't find it in a city or a state near you order it online we'll ship it directly to your door please drink responsibly and it's the best tasting vsop cognac on the market don't take my word for it try it for yourself and to commemorate my brother being elected selected to the pro football hall of fame we've come up with a commemorative bottle of shea by la portier you look at the packaging on your screen uh just head over to lapoitiercognac.com to grab yours while supplies last thank you to each and every one of you that have purchased one and uh we can't thank you enough please go follow my media company page on all of its platforms shea shea media and my clothing company 84 with 84 being spelled out that link is pinned in the chat.

We've got a new show launched under the umbrella of Shay Shay Media, the Debo and Joe Show with James Harrison and Joe Hayden.

Please go subscribe and check out their YouTube page, Debo and Joe.

They'll be live tomorrow morning at 11 a.m.

Eastern Time.

Their days are Monday.

Their days are Monday, Tuesday, and Friday at 11 a.m.

Eastern Time.

Go show them a little love.

The Eagles opened the season trying to defend their Super Bowl, the last year's super bowl with a win at home 24 20 jalen hurt rush for two touchdowns cd have four costly drops and jalen carter gets ejected from the game without playing playing a snap for spitting on dyke prescott thank you guys for joining us i'm unk he's ocho we'll see you tomorrow night

Ever go to McNachos on game day and realize the cheese is missing or the chips or both?

It happens all the time, but check it.

Walmart Express Delivery gets what's needed in as fast as one hour.

One hour, people.

And it's not just food.

It's phone chargers, pet supplies, toilet paper.

Try it now and get free delivery on a first order with promo code Express.

Walmart Express delivery in as fast as one hour.

Promotion valid for first express delivery.

Order $50 min.

Subject to availability.

Restrictions apply.

Today, we're exploring deep in the North American wilderness among nature's wildest plants, animals, and

cows.

Uh, you're actually on an Organic Valley dairy farm where nutritious, delicious organic food gets its start.

But there's so much nature.

Exactly.

Organic Valley's small family farms protect the land and the plants and animals that call it home.

Extraordinary.

Sure is.

Organic Valley, protecting where your food comes from.

Learn more about their delicious dairy at OV.coop.

This is Jonas Knox from Two Pros and a Cup of Joe, and on Fox One, now you can stream your favorite live sports so you can be there live for the biggest moments.

That means NFL Sundays, college football games, NASCAR, MLB postseason, and more.

With Fox One, you'll get it all live.

Edge of of your seat plays, jaw-dropping, high-octane moments, and that feeling like you're right there in the action.

Fox One, we live for live, streaming now.

This episode is brought to you by Intuit Enterprise Suite.

As businesses grow, so do the challenges.

Data gets scattered, tools struggle to keep up, and manual tasks pile up.

With the all-new Intuit Enterprise Suite, you can keep expanding without the headaches.

Intuit Enterprise Suite is an AI-powered solution that brings all your data together in one place, managing financials, payroll, payment processing, marketing, and more.

Learn more at intuit.com/slash enterprise.

Money movement services by Intuit Payments Inc, licensed by NYDFS.

We finally switched to T-Mobile because with them, we can be connected here and there.

Dad, the cousins in Mexico have a surprise for you.

And enjoy the gift of staying connected.

Switch and start saving today.

Get four Samsung Galaxy S25 phones with Galaxy AI on us and four lines for just $25 per line.

Plus, non-stop talk texts and data between US and Mexico.

Visit a store t-mobile.com or call 1-800-T-Mobile, 1-800-T-Mobile.

See details at t-mobile.com.