Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Eagles SURVIVING vs. Cowboys + Jalen Carter SPITTING on Dak Prescott

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Speaker 1 Welcome to this episode of Debo and Joe.

Speaker 18 I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Would you please make sure you like and subscribe to our channel? Y'all don't want to miss nothing.

Speaker 18 How you doing today, Joe? Man, I'm doing great, Debo. Great to be with you here on this great Friday.
We got football. We got things to talk about, my good brother.
Definitely, definitely.

Speaker 18 Dallas over there and Dallas and Eagles

Speaker 18 gave us a whole lot to talk about, you know, especially before, you know, a snap even got started over there for Philly. My man, Jalen, he, he, he decided,

Speaker 18 he, he, he wanted to spit on this, this man right before the kickoff, you know,

Speaker 18 in my mind, dude, like the most disrespectful thing in the world you could do, man, is spit on somebody.

Speaker 18 Like, it's nothing else in this world that you could do that would be worse than spitting on somebody.

Speaker 18 Like, if somebody was to spit on me, like, go ahead, get my bail money together like like i'm going to jail i don't know how dak

Speaker 18 had the the control to not like react to it and and and do something you called me debo yes you called me you called me when this happened i knew you felt some type of way so i couldn't wait to get your opinion and that's why i'm saying like the spit like i know you feel some type of way so literally like debo you said bail money for show how would you feel if that would have been you in that situation?

Speaker 18 What would you have done, my brother? I just needed to.

Speaker 18 It would have.

Speaker 18 Dude, I can't even.

Speaker 18 I would have had, oh, I wanted to say, I want to say that I would be able to control myself, especially, you know, being in that situation. First game of the season.

Speaker 18 You got to put yourself where it is. You know what I'm saying? You are a professional athlete.

Speaker 18 But he did.

Speaker 18 All right.

Speaker 18 Let me say something too. When he spit on your man, so we got Dak did a little spit first.
I seen it, but like when he spit on him, Debo, he spit on my man's upper chest plate slash Adam's apple.

Speaker 18 Like he spit that on his neck. You know what I'm saying? So I'm like, the disrespect, you're right there in close quarters and you just really spit on the man.
So like all like, that's

Speaker 18 what, what, what are we doing? That's the craziest thing. I had to.

Speaker 18 pause and look at it like man this is not normal yeah like when they said like he i think he spit on him i'm like it's no way he went over there and spit on him and like nobody reacted like you don't just casually walk up to somebody and spit on them like like dude like the level of disrespect of spit it's no level to it like the only level below that is

Speaker 18 getting into a fight with a dude and he beats you up by just slapping you and he never balls it straight straight open hand slaps

Speaker 18 yeah

Speaker 18 like that's

Speaker 18 That's the only other thing that's close.

Speaker 18 And like, I don't see the only way I can describe or understand why the offensive line didn't react is that it's no way in hell they saw that. They saw that.
Because that's like an all-out brawl.

Speaker 18 And teams, y'all just canceled the first regular season game because this is not going to stop. That gives, it gives, like, I would say, you know how, I know how Pouncey rocks.

Speaker 18 And I'm just saying for the offensive lineman, just for protection, that gives you the right to throw a hat. Yes.

Speaker 18 Because he's, he literally, he didn't just, he didn't just, he did he didn't smack your court he spit on your mans so now you could obviously foam you could fire off on him and you might just get a flag but he's going to get thrown out because the initial man the referee was standing right there he saw the spit so i think that's maybe why the

Speaker 18 i don't know if the lineman saw it but like that gives you a little bit there's no way on god's green earth dude that the lineman saw the spit

Speaker 18 It's no way.

Speaker 18 It's no way.

Speaker 18 I don't believe that.

Speaker 18 If I see that and it is just it's you man and we and the who i don't care who it is and they spit on you we close quarters we're close quarters they and he walked over to the other side that's like an automatic like he's supposed to be getting hands feet maybe a helmet like all that

Speaker 18 you know what i'm saying like that is the it's it's no other level that you can disrespect somebody with other than spitting on them. Yes.
Like that was crazy.

Speaker 18 To no extreme. I just, dude.
And the fact that they did not react to it. I was hopefully you saying that they didn't see.
They had to not see the spit, though. It's no way.

Speaker 18 Trace can stay controlled. But yeah.
And then, like, to come out with, you know, Dak Spit, he went in between his lineman and he spit, dude. He spit at the ground.

Speaker 18 Like, he, he's not, he, no, he didn't even try and level it out to even make like he was getting to you. So, no, all that other stuff, you can miss me with that noise.
You hit that man

Speaker 18 here

Speaker 18 between here here between here and here directly

Speaker 18 he spit it's you out on the field he spit on the ground you know what i'm saying like you feel like it's in your direction you feel disrespected that's on you coach dude think about how many times you've been on the field bro and you turn your head to spit and you hit somebody's shoe and the first oh my bad my bad but you're shoeing you ain't even it's one of your teammates

Speaker 18 you just went over

Speaker 18 facts facts facts

Speaker 18 I believe they got to suspend this dude, man. I think he got to get at least six games.

Speaker 18 You got to go ahead and make an example out of this though it's no way it should not be some sort of suspension with this bro what do you think i think he should get suspended for show six game i don't know six but you got to make it like you may you want to make an example spit is not that's not cool this is not what we're doing we're in we're playing in this game you know what i'm saying tensions get high it is what it is but that's just foul you ain't even snapped the ball yet bro you even gotta play what what tension got high

Speaker 18 it's the first game of the the season. He's building up anger, you know, but you're right.
You're right, James. He needs to get suspended.
I don't know about, I would say, I would say for sure,

Speaker 18 like two, I would say at least two, at least two games, at least two games. Two games, just two games for that, bro.
You say six. Come on.
Six hands.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I think, yeah. If you want to make an example of him, understand.

Speaker 18 We can do six and maybe knock down a couple. Okay, no, for sure.
We can start off at six and then knock it down. I just, yeah.
It's just the, the, yeah, no, I feel you.

Speaker 18 You gotta, you gotta hit him where it hurts. And that's gonna be in this check.
He's gonna miss six game checks, if that's the case. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 And that's, that's, that's, that's gonna be where it hurts. I would say, for sure,

Speaker 18 suspend him. The length of the suspension is, is, is debatable.
He needs to be suspended. He's not gonna, he gotta sit.
He gotta sit down. You gotta sit down.

Speaker 18 Yeah, the apology and all, that's, you know, that's, that's great and cool. But

Speaker 18 at the end of the day, man, you like, you spit on somebody. like if you're in an argument with somebody

Speaker 18 that is the last that is the last thing that you are thinking about doing yeah is spitting on them unless

Speaker 18 dude you don't spit on you don't you don't spit on anybody the first the first time your kids spit what you do pop them in their mouth right

Speaker 18 you don't spit

Speaker 18 that just don't make sense still

Speaker 18 anyway man the uh

Speaker 18 him getting kicked out the game really didn't uh

Speaker 18 help.

Speaker 18 It helped the Cowboys, but it didn't help them enough to win the game. I believe 24 to 20, the Eagles ended up beating them anyway.

Speaker 18 What things did you see that came from this game that you would want to

Speaker 18 talk about or point out that the Cowboys could obviously do better to help them secure that win? I think it was more. I would say, Cowboys, man, the thing is, that's what good teams do.

Speaker 18 You're going to figure out a way to win the game. The Eagles, Jalen Hurts, he threw for 152 yards, win 19 for 23, 82% passing,

Speaker 18 completion rate. You know what I'm saying? Nothing too crazy.
But end of the day,

Speaker 18 when the season starts, you want to get out of these games with wins. You want to win.
You want to get to the next game. You want to get to practice.
Watch the tape.

Speaker 18 Watching tape on a win is way easier than watching a tape on a loss. So Dallas Cowboys, like you in, they didn't have their best defensive linemen, their interior alignment.

Speaker 18 So they ended up being able to just get out of that situation, win in the game, defense played solid, only gave up 20 points. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 So these are just messy games where nobody's really into the flow. You don't really know what's going on.
AJ Brown wasn't targeted. He had one catch for eight yards.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 Like they just, at the end of the day, their offense wasn't doing too much, but. these are the games that you just end up winning.

Speaker 18 You want to get out of stadiums with W's and not L's because it's way easier to figure out, you know what I'm saying? Let's let's study from this.

Speaker 18 Let's let's get right, but let's not spit on fucking somebody.

Speaker 18 if you're in the game that'll help our defense to just start off you know what i'm saying like that part and then we can start aj brown getting him into the mix uh saquon barkley he scored a touchdown home he had 60 yards rushing but you leave those stadiums well yeah

Speaker 18 made up a lot a lot of that with you know scrambling and and coming up with big plays you know getting in there um i think on you know dallas side of the ball they need to

Speaker 18 you know i think shore up like just small things i think they need to get um they need to get uh what's his name pickens more involved.

Speaker 18 They need to get even more touches, you know, getting more targets.

Speaker 18 I believe they had

Speaker 18 over something team targets for

Speaker 18 CD.

Speaker 18 Also, CD had a few drops. I think he had three or four drops there.

Speaker 18 But I think the big thing that really hurt him was that turnover and then the ring delay. It seemed like both teams couldn't get started back from that.

Speaker 18 On defense,

Speaker 18 again, I mean,

Speaker 18 more pressure from the Dallas defense. Obviously, Parsons isn't there.

Speaker 18 I wonder why.

Speaker 18 I wonder why the lack of pressure, Debo.

Speaker 18 Yeah, I mean, you know, Hurts running the ball hurt him. You know, him scrambling, his ability to, you know, extend plays and

Speaker 18 make plays with his legs was really the

Speaker 18 big difference. And like you said, he didn't go out there, you know, slinging the ball left and right here and there, but he made up for it.
you know, at the points and spots of the game.

Speaker 18 And that's why I love Jalen, too, at the end of the day, like doing what it takes to win.

Speaker 18 He's going to like, we would say, you're not Greg or whatever, whatever, but you're going to, he leaves that, he leaves that stadium with a W, not an L. That's 0-1.

Speaker 18 The Eagles are 1-0 trying to figure out how to go 2-0. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's the simple part of at the beginning of the season, how do you start buying the A-ball?

Speaker 18 You win games that you're not really supposed to win or nobody's really performing like you think they are, but you won the game. So y'all are just building consistent.
You stack those up.

Speaker 18 Next thing you know, you're sitting there 4-0, just trying to get your rhythm right. Like this is the beginning of the season training camp.
Nobody's hitting. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 But he's making those third and shorts, like scrambling, being able to extend the plays, being able to just do what you got to do to win the game, get out of the stadium.

Speaker 18 So, like, yeah, according to the next gen stats, Jalen Hurts picked up a career high, five first downs on nine scramble runs. Come on.

Speaker 18 Yeah,

Speaker 18 including the game clinching, third down conversion. He also scored both of the touchdowns on scramble runs.
You know, obviously, I think you were impressed by his performance last night.

Speaker 18 Would that be a correct assumption?

Speaker 18 A thousand percent. I mean, like, like, I, I, with that being said, do you, do, do you think he, uh, he's a top five quarterback? No, see, that's the thing.

Speaker 18 I never want to give slander to Jalen Hurts. I'm not here for the Jalen.
I'm not saying, I'm not, I'm not saying you're slandering. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 18 But when I say that, when you say he's a top five,

Speaker 18 I'm prefacing myself to say that I don't know if he's top five. He might be like, he's top 10 for sure.

Speaker 18 But I'm saying like the way that I think of Aaron Rodgers of being just the best thrower of the ball, you know what I'm saying, compared to like people.

Speaker 18 The way you think of the position of quarterback, I understand what you're saying. Quarterback position.

Speaker 18 Yes, yes.

Speaker 18 All things being the same, I think if Patrick Mahomes was on the Eagles, they may be better. And that's no disrespect because I love

Speaker 18 Jalen Hurts. So that's why when I say if I were to put Joe Burrow there, I think that they may be a little, they may, they may be a little better.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 Like, and that's not knocking Jalen in any way. He's doing what he's asked to do.
He's a great quarterback. He deserves every dollar that he gets.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 But I just think there's a couple of player quarterbacks that I think are just a little bit more gifted than him, throwing the football, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 And that's just as me as being a quarterback, I think that that's just on my, on my, on my top. So I think he would probably be like, he's definitely top 10.

Speaker 18 He's around probably six or seven, probably six. I would say six.
Okay. I would say six.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 18 Okay.

Speaker 18 where do you put your

Speaker 18 i like i'm with you he he he's in that top 10.

Speaker 18 i can't i can't i don't feel comfortable saying top five because again my view of the the quarterback is the just flat tangibles of a quarterback what he can do at that position yes being able to run afterwards and and and and you know extend the play that's an added bonus and all that but being able to see what you see get it there and uh you know read out of things that's something that he can do, you know, just sitting in the pocket.

Speaker 18 And like you said, Tom, you look at Tom, you look at other guys like Tom, you look at Mahomes. Same thing with Mahomes, he can see it, and if he don't see it, he can get up out of there.

Speaker 18 But, you know, nine times out of ten, he's looking to throw the ball. So,

Speaker 18 um,

Speaker 18 I think

Speaker 18 a few of those uh

Speaker 18 times, you know, it was opportunity where he could have hit a guy that may have been breaking open and uh chose to uh to take it off, or just maybe later on the read or maybe they're breaking later open.

Speaker 18 So I don't,

Speaker 18 was there any cause for concern, you know, from the Eagles last night that you that you could think of? Anything that? I mean, it's it's early.

Speaker 18 You know, I think AJ Brown getting involved, you know what I'm saying, just trying to get that passing game going. But like I said, it's early on in the season.

Speaker 18 Being able to come out of these games with W's is the main thing. So them winning.
a tough division game, starting off, I think they're on the right path.

Speaker 18 But like AJ Brown getting the receivers more involved. I think that's something that we could do a little calls.
You know what I'm saying? That's what I'm saying. He threw for just a little dump.

Speaker 18 That big post that he threw, that was a 50-yard pass. You take away that.
He went 18 for 22 for 100 yards. That's real.
You know what I'm saying? Dinking the dunk is doing what you got to do.

Speaker 18 But I would think like more, just a little bit more exposed to plays. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 I think that's probably the only thing for real because they did a good job on defense and they didn't have their best player on. And they didn't.

Speaker 18 That was something else. Like,

Speaker 18 I'm not really concerned about it, but I believe they won't have him for a few more

Speaker 18 weeks

Speaker 18 if not more than that.

Speaker 18 And I believe next week, who they play? The Chiefs or something? Oh, man. I think so.
Is it?

Speaker 18 I believe they play the Chiefs next week. So, you know, coming up on that, not having your guy in the middle there or possibility of not having him there,

Speaker 18 that's a lot different game

Speaker 18 for them when they're going in there trying to make sure they can stop the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes. So,

Speaker 18 you know, just from the play that I saw last night, again, the best defensive player wasn't in there.

Speaker 18 I ain't gonna lie, dude, I think Dallas might be a little better than

Speaker 18 what we think, bro.

Speaker 18 They got, they got, they have talent. They have talent.
I think them getting George Pickens also along CD Lamb, he dropped some balls. That's not the normal CD.

Speaker 18 He's still at seven for 110, but he's going to get right. Getting George Pickens is another number one.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 Like, you need to throw that ball to him the same way they're throwing it to CD. And that's what I was saying.
You need to get him more touches. Oh, he's unbelievable.

Speaker 18 His athletic ability, like, just put him in space, get him the ball, throw him a slant. He can take it to the crib.
We've seen it before. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 So I think just getting able to get him involved, that understanding, you got two number ones. You can go to ball.

Speaker 18 And on the defensive side, man, like, you know, how much you think they missed Micah, though? Oh, big time.

Speaker 18 Like you said, there wasn't the pressure of being able to, he, you saw, Jalen, he ran for five of them first downs, being able to just escape.

Speaker 18 Like they weren't compressing the pocket, being able to keep him contained. So I think with Micah there, he would have been able to get to, he would have been able to get to him.

Speaker 18 He's the best defensive lineman they have by far. He's the best defensive player they have.
He's the best player on their team.

Speaker 18 And he was not there to help run that man down and stop some of those first downs that he was able to convert.

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah. So I guess according to Adam Schaffner, the Eagles were in a great bid war for Michael Parsons.

Speaker 18 Like,

Speaker 18 it's no way in hell

Speaker 18 that Jerry Jones was going to give

Speaker 18 Michael Parsons to the Eagles. Oh, no, no.

Speaker 18 Dude, that's probably why he was talking about, yeah, he got two or three more years here. Like, he'd let him sit there and do nothing.

Speaker 18 before he gave him to the Eagles. For sure.
That was the last thing. Can you imagine, dude, the Eagles with Michael Parsons right now? No.
That game would have got ugly

Speaker 18 way uglier

Speaker 18 it's no way

Speaker 18 no there's no way there's no way i mean they would have had to give them he would have got the haul that he deserved he would they would have had to give him six first round picks they would have had to they would have had to dude i don't even think he would have gave if they gave him

Speaker 18 dude i would not have done it would have been the worst move he could have ever made in his life no you're almost but all but guaranteeing that you will never beat the Eagles for this foreseeable future.

Speaker 18 Yeah. That's right.
Yeah,

Speaker 18 that's right. That's right.

Speaker 18 I just don't.

Speaker 18 Dude, I just don't, I just don't see it happen.

Speaker 18 Going to Micah Parsons, I guess they're saying that Micah took a little dig at his former cowboy teammates. Let's see.

Speaker 18 By praising his Packers teammates, he said, I tell you, I've never been in a locker room with guys like this. I come in Tuesday for treatment and I saw almost every guy in the locker room.

Speaker 18 This is the first time I've seen this.

Speaker 18 He said, he goes on to say that just shows how much these guys want to be here. They just want to be around.

Speaker 18 They just want to be around each other.

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Speaker 18 Each other and hang out.

Speaker 18 I think that's important. And when you're around guys like that, it makes it exciting to come to work.

Speaker 18 Do you think he was taking a dig at his former team, or do you think he's just excited to have an opportunity to be on a team that man

Speaker 18 devo that man is in wisconsin they ain't nothing to do out there everybody's at the facility getting right chilling getting treatment for sure where we gonna be what we gonna do so understandably i think that micah gotta understand it's like wisconsin's a little different than dallas but i understand when you come into a new spot you bringing that good energy you saying what you see i think that it's dope that everybody's in the facility you know i think everybody's getting that treatment getting that work in early dallas tuesday's the day off debo we know this what are people doing on tuesdays that's your time that you don't have to come to the facility actually you can chill you can do what you want to do so being that in he's saying wisconsin everybody's there they're getting treatment i was meeting people on a tuesday that's the day off so he's saying everybody's in the facility Maybe in Dallas, finally the day off, people aren't in there as much.

Speaker 18 You know what I'm saying? You can come get your lift in.

Speaker 18 You cannot. But I think he's saying, I'm looking at it like, dude, they're in the facility.
You're in Wisconsin.

Speaker 18 Everybody's coming in the facility because you're getting treatment, getting their body rights a thousand percent. But I don't think it's that serious.
I think he's

Speaker 18 a

Speaker 18 dig at the Cowboys. I see it as him being exposed.
to a different locker room, a different way of moving. So from the time I was in Pittsburgh from 2002 until probably 2012, that's what we had.

Speaker 18 We had a group of dudes that were in there.

Speaker 18 Everybody were in there together. Like we hung out on the off time.
You know, we'd go out, hang out, do whatever, go out, kick it.

Speaker 18 And first thing in the morning, yo, 630, seven o'clock, you're in the gym at the latest, working out, getting it going.

Speaker 18 And that's just the, you know, that's just the atmosphere that those players from that time to us passed down. And it, it just continued.

Speaker 18 And to be honest with you, like as it went further and further in 2012, I ended up going to

Speaker 18 Cincinnati in 13 and

Speaker 18 I came back unretired and was back in 14 and it wasn't it wasn't the same. You know what I'm saying? You didn't have the same where it was a whole, you know, like team thing.

Speaker 18 You had, you had your little cut up groups, you know what I mean? Like you had your groups, like maybe it was offense, defense, where before it was just everybody, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 18 When Bussy and all them was there it was everybody um now it was a little more offense defense and then it even got you know some things got cut down even more than that you know it was positionally you know it might be you know receivers and and and dvs and all that so i understand what he's saying he's not taking a knock he's been exposed to something else that he didn't think would happen because that's that's all he was exposed to this is something newer he likes it and he's enjoying it and he's not he's not taking a knock at somebody else he's saying i'm seeing something else and it's good i like it i want more of it i love that i love that no for sure but like like you said too in cleveland we just different like when i when i went from in cleveland on tuesdays like you said this is the day off you would have like you said positional groups we were really cool defenses get tight but when i came to pittsburgh will gay and those dudes they will always have some stuff like those defensive meetings there was like mandatory kickets you know what i'm saying like right not really mandatory but dudes wanted to hang out like we we gonna watch this film and we're gonna get some good food like, and just really bond and be able to talk and really be able to get this camaraderie.

Speaker 18 So there's different, and that's what I was trying to do when I was in Cleveland at first.

Speaker 18 Some OGs, Abe Elam, dudes that do it, you kind of, like you said, you just fall into it because the OG is going to tell you kind of where we're going, where we meeting at, and that's what you're going to do.

Speaker 18 And then when you become the OG, you want to set that thing up too with the food, making sure everybody's good. So they, they feel apart.
Everybody knows we in this together.

Speaker 18 End of the day, we grinding, we figuring it out, but meeting and us doing these little out of the, off the team with coaches is not here this is what makes me know your family what makes me feel like we are actually bonding you know what i'm saying getting along that camaraderie so i understand exactly what you're saying from that perspective because that's that's a real thing maybe they weren't doing as much in dallas like i said the ogs probably didn't bring him in as much didn't like take him out the dinners or show him the way you know what i'm saying right he would want to get led and now he goes there it's a whole different vibe dang i got somebody really like oh dang that's what's good like boom we so this is what we're doing and everybody's just kicking it cooling that you He's like, man, these dudes are some good ass, them good ass dudes, right, right, right.

Speaker 18 Speaking of people that was doing things the way he just found out they're doing them, I guess Stephon Diggs' uh decision to not speak to the Boston media rubbed the local reporters the wrong way.

Speaker 18 It says, Uh, Diggs apologized, I guess, for uh coming off rude. He said, Obviously, I don't want to come across as that.
Well, they said he was

Speaker 18 they said, they said he was a paying

Speaker 18 posterior. Yeah, pop.
Dude, my braces be locking me up, bro.

Speaker 18 Posterior, post.

Speaker 18 Yeah, pot.

Speaker 18 Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was a pain in the ass.
You know, obviously they said posterior. So it wasn't one of us.

Speaker 18 But he said, obviously, I don't want to come across as that. I'm going to say this.
I want to be very clear. I'm an adult.
I apologize. I'm not up here to eagle trip.

Speaker 18 I'm not up here to rub any, anybody the wrong way or say anything that's clickbait. If I rubbed anyone wrong, I really want to apologize.
So,

Speaker 18 like,

Speaker 18 you know, the man said he's, you know, he's up there. He's, he's trying to lock in.
He's, he's making sure he take care of his body. He's take care of his mind.
You know, it's camp.

Speaker 18 He didn't want to get, you know, into the whole rigmarole yet, you know.

Speaker 18 And right now, I guess, you know, you're at the point where it's mandatory now, you know, so he's doing what it is that he has to do right now.

Speaker 18 But, you know, at that point in camp, he was saying he wanted to lock in. And I guess the two individuals, they actually,

Speaker 18 I guess, had a little an apology too.

Speaker 18 Do you think that

Speaker 18 that's something that you would do or that

Speaker 18 do you think he was actually just locking in or do you think he was just being an a-hole, as they say? A pain.

Speaker 18 I can't even say the word, brother.

Speaker 18 I don't think I know Diggs personally. That's my

Speaker 18 he's from the DMV. We're from the same area.
Like, I know him. I know his brother, all of them.
And Diggs is a really, really good dude.

Speaker 18 But I would say that, you know, he had a lot of off the field stuff really going on. You know what I'm saying? He was in situations.
So he just wanted to keep it football.

Speaker 18 He's in a new team, knows what they're trying to talk about, and he really wants to keep the main thing, the main thing. Coming off of injury, he knows he got some stuff to prove.

Speaker 18 And I think he's going to do it. So I don't think he was trying to be an asshole.

Speaker 18 He just knows that people are trying to make the story not what it is and he just wants to keep it on football and the only way is to stay away from the media just stay off of it right now really lock in try to be the patriot way of old like don't really worry about that you know what i'm saying you're locked in you got you're trying to do football you know what i'm saying so i i understand where he's coming from and now just getting back to the media you're going to have to respond you're going to talk so i think he really really genuinely does want to apologize really did do that genuinely from his heart because he's a good dude he doesn't mean any harm but he knows how the media is and they can tie things up and try to make him look crazy so staying away from him is a way to like you're not gonna be able to confuse nothing if i don't say nothing if i don't talk to y'all you know what i'm saying i think that was great

Speaker 18 you can't mix up no

Speaker 18 if i don't say nothing to you then it ain't it ain't it ain't nothing that you confuse

Speaker 18 i don't want to talk to you you know what i'm saying so that's the most you can say that's what they were saying he's not talking to us so he him so but basically like he's like you're not gonna be able to say nothing because i'm really locked in i'm on my football.

Speaker 18 You haven't seen nothing about diggs. He's, I love that man.
So, I'm rooting for him. I hope the best, nothing but the best for digs.
So, I think that that's what he was on.

Speaker 18 Like, nah, don't get this confused. I really got, I'm on a new team.
I'm coming off injury. I'm trying to ball out.
That's what it is. Yeah, so

Speaker 18 let's get over here to the NFLPA. I guess the NFLPA interim director, David White, says an 18-game schedule is not inevitable.

Speaker 18 What do you think of that comment, bro? Man, they tripping. They just trying to get more and more bag.

Speaker 18 as far as him saying that it's not inevitable for me uh that's an absolute lie that is inevitable that is going to be one of the things that the nfl is going to want when it comes time for them to renegotiate this new collective bargaining agreement um

Speaker 18 with that being said, him not saying it's not inevitable, it is inevitable.

Speaker 18 It's going to happen. And if you're saying that it's not, I don't believe you've got yourself into a situation that you understand

Speaker 18 what is going on,

Speaker 18 obviously, and you haven't been through the history of how this whole thing has went down. I don't know if you were playing when Gene Upshaw was the

Speaker 18 in the position that he's in now as the executive director.

Speaker 18 So

Speaker 18 when Gene was in there, he had told us, dude, this was like 2007, 2008. He was like, yo,

Speaker 18 the NFL is going to lock you out. You guys need to save up money and you need to save up 100% of what it is that you make over the course of the next, I believe he said two or three years at that time

Speaker 18 to make sure you can make it through a 12-month lockout. Because he said, come 2011, they're going to lock us out.

Speaker 18 he ended up not making it to that he ended up passing i believe it was 2008 and then we got the worst commissioner to ever i mean we got the worst executive director to to to ever have and that was d smith d smith did

Speaker 18 everything possible dude to just increase the power that he had

Speaker 18 as the nflpa you know executive um director for

Speaker 18 the players. It wasn't anything, you know what I'm saying? He made it to where he took a lot of the power away from the players, being able to make the decisions

Speaker 18 of who could actually even be voted in

Speaker 18 as a executive director. He put a whole executive committee together that actually voted on who would run against him.

Speaker 18 The committee he put together voted on who would run against him

Speaker 18 and took that vote away from the players, where before the players actually

Speaker 18 made the vote of, you know, who it is they wanted to run. And then from there, they voted on, you know, who would do it.

Speaker 18 I don't believe David White has a good understanding. Prime example, I went down to the facility yesterday, the Stillers facility yesterday, and he was supposed to be down there.
I believe it was him,

Speaker 18 Don Don Davis, who is the chief player officer,

Speaker 18 and

Speaker 18 Jalen Maven, I believe, is his name. I really don't know.
He's supposed to be the president of

Speaker 18 active players. He's not even an active player right now himself.
He's not even on a roster, but

Speaker 18 they were supposed to be there.

Speaker 18 And this is supposed to be his very first trip to Pittsburgh, and he doesn't even show up. No,

Speaker 18 bruh,

Speaker 18 he doesn't even show up for it, right?

Speaker 18 So now,

Speaker 18 like even D Smith, as bad as he was,

Speaker 18 came

Speaker 18 up when he was supposed to show up. So you're telling me

Speaker 18 the interim executive director for his first trip, introduction to the group of guys he's supposed to be, you know, out here working for and defending doesn't even show up.

Speaker 18 Your chief officer, what is it, your chief player officer, he doesn't show up. All three of these dudes don't show up.

Speaker 18 And on top of that,

Speaker 18 did they send a message? Did they send an email?

Speaker 18 No, no, no.

Speaker 18 I knew of nothing why they weren't showing up. You had a couple other

Speaker 18 NFLPA reps that showed up that assumed that they were already there. And I'm like, no, they're not there.
They're not on the field.

Speaker 18 So, you know, the NFLPA leadership dude weak at every level we need strong leadership we need competent leadership i win you're not going to show up yeah here's the crazy thing it doesn't make any sense before the last one i went and was like yo i want to get i want to i want to run for you know executive director i told don davis this

Speaker 18 He never dropped my name in the hat. I know this for a fact because I talked to a person

Speaker 18 executive committee.

Speaker 18 You know why that happened? Because he was trying to get it.

Speaker 18 Debo, what was his currently trying to get it now? But

Speaker 18 again, man,

Speaker 18 I'm running for executive director. My name will be in a hat.
It will be there. So

Speaker 18 the leadership that we need is a guy that is

Speaker 18 like Gene Upshaw was. He was a guy that played the game.
He understands what we go through.

Speaker 18 He understands what happens. Like, I'm a guy, I was a practice squad guy.
I was a guy that was a minimum guy. I was a guy that actually made money.
I'll try to do that. So I use everything.

Speaker 18 And I'm a guy that's retired right now.

Speaker 18 So I know all the things that we're going to, that, that, that we go through, that we've been through, and you're going to go through when that time comes that you're, you know, done with football or football is done with you, you know, and it's just, you know, the difficulty.

Speaker 18 I'll just bring up one little thing, like your HRA. You know, you got all that money in your HRA, right?

Speaker 18 And that's for your, that's where, you know, when you get done, you got your health reimbursement stuff so you can get your insurance paid and all that stuff, right?

Speaker 18 Well, for you to get that reimbursement, the money's here, right? The money's here, but the money is there, but what you got to do to get to it, you don't know it's a field of broken glass.

Speaker 18 You got to crawl through. Dude, it took me almost two hours and 34 minutes just to get back 50 bucks of reimbursement of a of a credit thing.

Speaker 18 And that was only because I got lucky and got a hold of a signal person that sat down there with me and actually called the other insurance company. It's things like that that guys are running into.

Speaker 18 So when you have guys that are retired and they're like, you know, I can't get this, I can't get that. And, you know, you tell them, get your HRA.
Well, yeah, it's there.

Speaker 18 He just can't get to it because he got to crawl across this glass that he can't get to. And if you're a guy that has a regular nine to five, they're only open regular hours.

Speaker 18 So you don't have the time to sit there and do all that to actually, you know, go through if you learn it.

Speaker 18 i actually talked to four different people before i got one guy that actually sat down there with me on the phone for like i said two hours 34 minutes and went through the process to show me how it was done you know with that being said i just i'm just

Speaker 18 i'm just concerned that

Speaker 18 as interim i hope it's just the interim because we need somebody in there that knows exactly what we go through, what we're going to go through, that can go in there and actually speak for the players, that's trying to make it better for the players and not trying to make it better for them to keep power position and money that's all i would say no i ain't gonna lie to you debo you speaking facts brother you are because at the end of the day you're not coming to you're not looking for any any particular you don't want to gain anything you want to help people out like you've been in the situation like you said you were undrafted you ended up being minimum you had a contract and now you're retired grown kids everything the whole situation so you've seen it on so many different levels that you're not trying to act a certain way no you just know that it's hard once you get retired and trying to figure some stuff out of the situations like just how to how to how to continue to keep going and you just want to look out for the dudes that are in the league that know this your time's gonna come you know what i'm saying like you it's sweet once it is but once you get out you really need to have people that are trying to protect you and not looking for a game not looking for their self to get literally they you don't want it for yourself you're looking out for the next generation so i think that's exactly i can't get nothing nothing from it now.

Speaker 18 I like

Speaker 18 it.

Speaker 18 I'm with you. What's the position that we're looking for you to get, Debo? We want you to be president.
We want me to be the executive director of the NFLPA. Executive Director.

Speaker 18 That's what we're shooting for. That is what we're going for, dude.
I'm done. Okay.

Speaker 18 Look, it's done.

Speaker 18 Executive director of the NFL PA. Debo, because I ain't going to lie to you, though.
I love when

Speaker 18 it matches. It's not like we're trying to do something that doesn't make sense.
It makes perfect sense.

Speaker 18 You deserve to be the NFL executive director of the NFL PA because you're going to do what needs to be done for the players. You're not trying to get over.
You're trying to look out.

Speaker 18 And that's what the NFLPA is supposed to do. Look out for the players, look out for the guys.
And it got, I think when

Speaker 18 Gene, you know, passed and it was passed over or they voted for a D Smith,

Speaker 18 it didn't become that. Like no longer did we hear, hey, stave up is going to be a locked out and all that other stuff.

Speaker 18 Like he was telling us that, like, in 2007, Gene was telling us that in 2007, yo, they're going to lock us out. You need, you guys need to save up to make sure you can make it through a year.

Speaker 18 He got in there and all of a sudden it was like, yeah, you know, what happened to what, you know, Gene was saying, you know,

Speaker 18 and then come the last hour, they're like, oh, yeah,

Speaker 18 they're going to lock you out. We're going to try and help guys with this and that.

Speaker 18 Dude, if guys had listened from the very beginning and you continued to push that as you should have, instead of it being a, oh, we could, they could lock us out.

Speaker 18 So make sure you save something, then guys wouldn't have been able to hold out. But at the end of the day, even though the guys that, you know, were able to do it or wasn't able to do it,

Speaker 18 the message should have been the same. Yeah.
And when it came down to it, you should have been the guy. as the executive director to do the hard thing

Speaker 18 and make it to where

Speaker 18 guys would get exactly what they wanted. Some people got to learn hard lessons the hard way.
Everybody was told the same thing.

Speaker 18 So just because, you know, he told me, well, you know, James, we had a certain percentage of guys that just, you know, they wanted to go back. They couldn't.

Speaker 18 I'm like, dude, you're not there for a certain percentage of guys. You're there for everybody.
You're there for the NFLPA, the NFLPA. That's all players, not the ones that just didn't listen.

Speaker 18 Like, you're trying to make it better. I'm not going to let my son do something that I know is not going to benefit him in his future just because

Speaker 18 he wants to do it right now.

Speaker 18 Right. He wants something for the short term, you know.
Like, it just, it just, it just didn't make sense, man. And, you know, you go

Speaker 18 that long

Speaker 18 just to come out with a deal that,

Speaker 18 you know, it wasn't even worth

Speaker 18 going through the fight of it. Like, it wasn't even a fight when it came down to it.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 So, I guess,

Speaker 18 I guess, Devontae Adams,

Speaker 18 when he was dealt to the Jets last year,

Speaker 18 he asked the rookie receiver Malachi, I guess,

Speaker 18 for his 17.

Speaker 18 He offered him 17,000 in exchange for the number 17.

Speaker 18 According to Devontae, man,

Speaker 18 he told him he need a million god

Speaker 18 a million

Speaker 18 he said hey man it's good to have you happy to have you on the squad but i need a million i'm gonna need a million i'm gonna need a whole meal ticket for that one

Speaker 18 but i'm gonna need a million who who is who is who is that corley malachi core who is that

Speaker 18 i I don't know.

Speaker 18 I'm trying to think.

Speaker 18 I gotta look, bro. but I don't, acting for a million is wild.

Speaker 18 That's out of control. Acting for a million is crazy.

Speaker 18 I had to pay when I was in Pitts, when I was in the Browns, when I first got there, they threw me in the craziest, stankiest number you could ever imagine.

Speaker 18 I was in number 40.

Speaker 18 And then I had to get that thing off to Peyton Hillis. And I bought number 23 for 20 bands.

Speaker 18 As a rookie, I bought that drink for 20 bands. And then when I came to Pittsburgh, my man Mike Mitchell, shout out Mike Mitchell.
I tried to buy 23 off Mike Mitchell.

Speaker 18 Right? What do you say? What do you say? Oh, do you want to know? Oh, I got a. Oh, yeah.
So, first, I tried to pop off. Boom.
I got 20 bands for you, Mike.

Speaker 18 Not rocking. Laughed at that.
Laughed at the 20. All right, back.

Speaker 18 I got 50 for you, Mike.

Speaker 18 Laughed at that.

Speaker 18 I got 75 for you, Mike.

Speaker 18 Laughed at that.

Speaker 18 Last thing, Mike, because he knows he got to buy another number. We got Rob G there, 21.
I say, my God, I got

Speaker 18 100 bands for you, Mike.

Speaker 18 He's like, no, I got my foundation and everything

Speaker 18 under my jersey, under 2-3. I said, oh, man, well, I can't do nothing for you.

Speaker 18 So then Mike kept the 23. That's what my rookie year.
I had 21. Ended up buying it off Rob G for the 20 bands.
Rob G was geachy. Super.
No question. You know what I'm saying? He went to

Speaker 18 nothing, like nothing happened. Oh, he was ecstatic.
Took that 20 so fast. Brob G, great man.
Love Brob G. So now I was into 21.
And then next year, they ended up letting go my man, Mike Mitchell.

Speaker 18 And then I got 23 for free. That was the crazy part.

Speaker 18 Yeah,

Speaker 18 I ain't going to lie. I might have.

Speaker 18 Somebody offered me 100,000. Bro, I tried to start off.
92 laughed at me so hard. So then I just tried to go.
50.

Speaker 18 I ain't going to lie. I'd have laughed too.
But once you got to 100, I would have been like, man, look, Mike, I don't look.

Speaker 18 Because he was like, man, that's just a number i don't have nothing mic for you i'm gonna give you this hundred thousand dollars and you're gonna give me number 23. he was like ah cash in your hand

Speaker 18 100 000 american current cash in your hand

Speaker 18 five dollars

Speaker 18 and he said ah no i know after that i just i'm going number 21

Speaker 18 Yeah, so I went to

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Speaker 18 Uh

Speaker 18 Was it New England?

Speaker 18 And it was a dude that had 92.

Speaker 18 And I'm like, yo, let me, you know, let me get 92. What you want for it? Yeah, dude.

Speaker 18 Hey, I don't even remember what his name was, but he blessed your boy. You know what he said? What'd he say?

Speaker 18 Three grand.

Speaker 18 Oh, you need to send him a Christmas card. I can't remember his name, bro.
Man, we got to find whoever was 92 when you went there. We can find him because I love him.
I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 18 I ain't going to lie to you. i wasn't gonna pay much oh no no for sure for sure he said right around the number you was like

Speaker 18 that three was cool though that three bands he was like hey he said it depends dude if it's dependent on what's that i wasn't gonna be like no man what i'm here for like two months bro you you out

Speaker 18 like

Speaker 18 he was like yeah he's like three i'm like

Speaker 18 say less here cash out my oh for sure

Speaker 18 no question dude yeah but i ain't gonna lie yeah he he showed up i thought i thought he was gonna i thought he was gonna do something you know something out of control oh my goodness no debo i'm happy for your story yeah oh no yes i'm out 40 i'm out 40 for two numbers here's the crazy thing so when i unretired i came back and it was a guy that i believe he had 92 but he hadn't made like

Speaker 18 uh like active or whatever it was so they basically just you know just got it from me oh they just however however that went, if he was actually active, I wouldn't have been able to switch into the number

Speaker 18 like when I came in. So because of the timing of the season when it started.
So if he had actually got active and onto the field, he would have been able to hold on to the number. Yeah.

Speaker 18 Oh, that shit worked out perfectly. Oh, yeah, dude.
That worked out to no end, bro.

Speaker 18 Yeah.

Speaker 18 So.

Speaker 18 My guy RC says that Tom Brady was not a generational talent at quarterback. is this can't be right.
Is this real?

Speaker 18 He said, I think I think John Elway was a generational talent. I think Patrick Mahomes is a generational talent.
I don't think Tom Brady.

Speaker 18 I don't think Drew Brees. I don't think Peyton Manning are generational talents.

Speaker 18 I didn't hear this.

Speaker 18 He said this on TV?

Speaker 18 I didn't.

Speaker 18 That's what it's saying that was said. I don't.

Speaker 18 huh?

Speaker 18 I think, does he take

Speaker 18 Drew Breeze, but not time? Like,

Speaker 18 I think, was he saying, like, does he have to see athleticism to be a generational? I don't know, man.

Speaker 18 I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not going wrong with this one right here, to be honest with you, because I just absolutely do not understand

Speaker 18 the whole concept of it.

Speaker 18 I'm trying to look like

Speaker 18 she said to me. Yeah, I'm trying to find out how it could only be athletically.

Speaker 18 Athletically?

Speaker 18 Dude, if I'm talking about the position of quarterback and I'm like all the intangibles of what I need as a quarterback,

Speaker 18 I have a line to protect him. I have a running game to assist him.
My quarterback, I'm not going to lie to you, it's going to be Tom Brady. He's going to walk you down the field and win.

Speaker 18 Yeah, like he's going to see it, get to it.

Speaker 18 You know, and he did it again in Tampa. Oh, 40.

Speaker 18 I just,

Speaker 18 hey, I don't know. I don't know why he would say that about Tom.

Speaker 18 I have no clue, brother. Yep.
I'm lying. I'm going to let that one go.
I ain't so. So my dude Ramari Cooper, he he told,

Speaker 18 I can relate to this. I ain't going to lie to you.
I can relate to this. So Amari Cooper informed the team that he no longer has a desire to play and intends to retire, right?

Speaker 18 What do you think of that? Didn't he just sign like a week ago, right? I don't, did he just sign and he just retired?

Speaker 18 With

Speaker 18 the Raiders, right?

Speaker 18 I believe it was. Went back to,

Speaker 18 yeah, I want to say it was a week ago. So he had to be there.
So like, yeah. I mean, you know what it is, Debo?

Speaker 18 If he just signed a week ago, that means he didn't do training camp, didn't do none of that.

Speaker 18 So he went back, got into the grind, and really was like ah you know like i don't i don't i don't love it it's about to be a whole season to this you know and i mean he's played 10 years amari cooper at the end of the day got i mean he made some money you know at the end of the day nobody they're not getting any slower they're not getting any weaker out there these dudes are out there jump trying to get it everybody every year new nfl season so trying the nfl is not a game it's not nowhere you just oh yeah i'm gonna just jump in on there and just go play with these dudes no you're gonna get hurt.

Speaker 18 You're gonna get smacked out there. They're not playing.
You know what I'm saying? Like, it's not a game. Ain't playing no game.
No, you don't just go play football, NFL football.

Speaker 18 No, that's a business decision when you go out there and joint that you're making with your body with your life.

Speaker 18 It's a 100%

Speaker 18 business decision.

Speaker 18 But it's also, well, for me, when I came back and unretired, I was done. I was good, bro.

Speaker 18 And I had, you know, I had

Speaker 18 Kiesel call me. It's like, you know, 4.30 in the morning.
I'm getting up to get ready to go work out. I get a call.
Keysel's like, hey, you ready to come back? I'm like, nah, what you talking about?

Speaker 18 Man, we got this down. We got that down.
I'm like, I don't, hey, brother, I don't, I don't know what you're talking about. I ain't coming back.
It's, you know, I'm done bun.

Speaker 18 And then, you know, I got a call from Troy and Troy's like, yo.

Speaker 18 We're going to need you to come back and da, da, da, da da, da, da, da. I'm like, I'm like, Troy, listen, brother.
I'm not coming back. I'm good, bro.
I'm happy. I'm out here living life.

Speaker 18 You know what I'm saying? I'm feeling good, bro. And then Ike called me.
He fresh out of surgery. He just broke his forearm.

Speaker 18 And he's like, bro, we need you. I said, all right, hold up.
I said, I tell y'all what I do. It's a good feeling to be wanted, brother.
You got the homies hitting you.

Speaker 18 Well, well, you know, I played so long with them dudes. That's my brothers.
You know, my kids call them uncle. That's uncles.
Them uncles. That's uncle Troy.

Speaker 18 That's uncle Keys. Like,

Speaker 18 those are, they're, they're, you know, they're

Speaker 18 uncles. So I'm like, you know what? I don't want to feel like I'm letting my brothers down.
I said, but if my kids say no, bro, that's going to be it. I'm not, I'm not doing it.

Speaker 18 So I'm like, I'm going to call my kids. I'm going to see what they say.
And I'm like, if they say no, that's it. If they say yeah, then, you know, I do it.

Speaker 18 And that was after I had already, you know, spent that year in Cincinnati. And I really, you know, I really just didn't want to be away.
So. I called my kids.

Speaker 18 I'm like, yo, hey, I actually had them on FaceTime, made sure uh it was recorded i had to i had to show proof when they said no which i just knew they was gonna say no right you know what i'm saying

Speaker 18 i'm like hey you know daddy got a chance to uh you know come back and play football um so you guys you would have to wait you know to get into your contact football you'd still be doing you're doing flag all that whatever they was like okay um but uh where where you know where it's gonna be i'm like it's in pittsburgh it's like all right cool yeah yeah you could do that i'm like damn they hype They did not do it.

Speaker 18 So, get into fast forward into that first week where Amari is at right now.

Speaker 18 Dude,

Speaker 18 that first week,

Speaker 18 I was supposed to get like 15 snaps. So, I'm preparing myself.
But as I'm going through that week of practice, bruh,

Speaker 18 the second day I come in, you know, the swording is setting in for the next day, but it don't really set in till that Thursday.

Speaker 18 Dude, if it wasn't for the fact that my daddy told me you start you finish what you start

Speaker 18 i was gonna give them whatever they wanted to let me get up out of there like my body was hurting so bad dude and i was only out of it for like

Speaker 18 an off season and like maybe the first two three weeks of the season dude

Speaker 18 bruh you talking about taking anything I could to try and kill the pain, try and knock down the inflammation, the swelling, laying in, like I was cold plunging before cold plunging was cool, bro.

Speaker 18 I was to my neck up in that thing, bro. Like, I'm just, and I'm,

Speaker 18 I'm sitting there, I'm sitting at my locker. And so we go through the week.
We end up playing Tampa. And Coach T comes through the locker room.
So now, you know, I'm into the second week.

Speaker 18 I'm feeling better. I'm feeling good.
And he like, how you feeling? I'm like, oh, I'm good now. He said, yeah.

Speaker 18 He said, I was going to come over and talk to you on thursday he said but

Speaker 18 it looked like you was making decisions in your head and i didn't want to give you an opportunity to step out of this

Speaker 18 it was all over your eyes it was all over my face man i guess he man

Speaker 18 yeah so when you get into that especially with him being out of it just signing that week i totally understand what he's talking about i could see how it could happen because like i said i was in that position and that is not an easy position to be in, especially as you get older, man.

Speaker 18 You're like, I got this sitting in the bank, man. Do I really want to do this? You know, and for me,

Speaker 18 I continued because, you know, your body hardened back up to it. And then I, like he said, I fell back in love with the process, the game and all that, ended up signing

Speaker 18 a couple more years. And even when I went to New England, dude, I could have went back to New England.
And Bill was like,

Speaker 18 I want to bring you back, but I want to wait till after the draft so that I don't tell you something that's not true. I want to be able to tell you exactly what your role is going to be.

Speaker 18 So, you know, I want to assign you after the draft. And that way, you know, I won't tell you anything that's not true.
We can go from there. I'm like, all right, cool.

Speaker 18 And the more I sat back, I'm like, dude, I just don't want to be away from home again. And it's just.

Speaker 18 it's just not something i want to do and i was like you know what i got to retire because if he offers it to me i know i'm going to take it because i love the game i want to play the game and i I was like, yeah, I got to retire before that happens.

Speaker 18 Cause once I started, I got to finish it. No, for sure.
And man, that's good, though, with Debo, that you can even do that.

Speaker 18 Your body, the way that you work out, the way that you maintain yourself, though, is a true testament. I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 18 Cause once I stopped and I retired, I stopped like the treatment just to taking care of my body to be able to stay elite. Like there's no offseason when you're in the NFL.

Speaker 18 So when you stop for real and like stop working out, stop getting that massage and stop getting that treatment, then I did it for a year and then once once that happened then my body was kind of i was out the way but i could tell you still lifting up the whole gym so i could tell you still staying in shape

Speaker 18 yeah i i i ain't lifting up the whole gym i'm just i'm still taking care of my body though i'm just not doing it you know to the level that i was when i was playing i'm not uh you know i'm not seeing a chiropractor twice a week i'm not seeing uh you know my docs and you know for uh ivs and all that stuff twice a week I'm doing, you know,

Speaker 18 acupuncture, dry needling every week, all that, you know, I'm doing normal massage, maybe once a week, some acupuncture, you know, once a week. And I'll see my chiro, you know, maybe.

Speaker 18 It depends on how I feel, to be honest with you. You know, it may be every, you know, month, every couple months.
It just really, it just really depends on how I feel.

Speaker 18 How often are you working out, Debo? That's what I need to know.

Speaker 18 Five to six days a week. Well, five to seven days a week.
Okay. Okay.
It just, yeah, it just depends.

Speaker 18 Is it like actual weight weightlifting actual weightlifting though is only five days a week i cut that down it used to be six so i'm monday through friday with weights and you know uh cardio whatever it may be you know through the uh six day i gotta i gotta get you in the gym with my dad um my dad was like i would love to get in the gym with debo they watch he probably watched all of them shout out pops with that one pops debo i'm definitely getting y'all in the gym together and i'm going to film the workout it's going to be amazing that's good i know you got one right there i know you got a gym there you know the gym man hey they say they say that uh boxing legend mike tyson floyd they about they about to get it on the exhibition i believe it's 2026 next year not a date set

Speaker 18 but it's supposed to be floyd and and mike tyson would what you think of that man they gonna get my money i'm gonna watch you know what i'm saying but what

Speaker 18 we got going on here man I just seen Mike in that drain. I'm glad my man didn't try to knock.
Buddy, Jake Paul could have knocked out Mike Tyson in a fight.

Speaker 18 Like that joint was not, it was a little bit sad to see. I don't want to see Mike.

Speaker 18 See, I'm trying to, I don't want to see Mike in a situation. I think Floyd might just.

Speaker 18 I don't know if he, you know, it with the contract kind of set up, so he needed to make it go a while. You know what I'm saying? So I don't know if that was really,

Speaker 18 you know, I just can't, I ain't sure, bro.

Speaker 18 Like, if that, because I've seen him training, I seen him doing this here.

Speaker 18 He could give you you mic he could give you a minute of that he's getting older debo i'm just saying he ain't even give him a minute though he was in the jones if he gave him a minute

Speaker 18 i ain't see none of this training just give me

Speaker 18 one of them

Speaker 18 i needed to see him let him fly let him fly mike

Speaker 18 he was doing all that i ain't see none of that you see none of that

Speaker 18 I don't know. I just want to see hands.

Speaker 18 I don't even know if I want to,

Speaker 18 I want to, I would want to see this. Like, literally,

Speaker 18 Floyd too, though, but I'm telling you, Floyd don't play. I like Floyd's, Floyd got actual hands.
So I'm just saying,

Speaker 18 he's going to stand there. He's going to sit there and

Speaker 18 he's going to sit there and tag Mike's ass.

Speaker 18 But it's going to be like, you know, like a little bumble, like little stings. Hey, it's going to be, it's going to be like little stings.
You know, it ain't even that.

Speaker 18 i need to know how many rounds

Speaker 18 i need to know how many rounds the length of the rounds

Speaker 18 come on listen man why your boy chad up here talking crazy last night about fighting me man take a listen to this bro oh please let me hear

Speaker 22 you know what you know who i might spit on

Speaker 22 i'm gonna spit on debo

Speaker 18 Oh now

Speaker 22 I'm gonna make him fight me. I'm gonna make him fight me.
He's gonna fight you all right. You, you gotta fight.

Speaker 18 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 22 Because

Speaker 22 I want him extremely mad.

Speaker 17 I want him angry.

Speaker 22 I want him to exert so much energy trying to hurt me where I use it against him. Because I'm going to be nice and calm and relaxed.

Speaker 18 I don't know. Not no MLA.
You ain't going to be nice, calm.

Speaker 18 Man, I don't mean.

Speaker 18 Man,

Speaker 18 all right.

Speaker 22 You don't believe in your co-host?

Speaker 18 Sit on me if you want to.

Speaker 22 I bet the chat believe in me.

Speaker 18 Chat, I believe. On February time,

Speaker 22 guarantee you, I beat Debo ass. I guarantee you.

Speaker 18 Tell you, man.

Speaker 22 Man, I got no, he don't got, he don't got no combat sports background like me.

Speaker 18 Hell,

Speaker 18 oh, hey, man.

Speaker 18 He liked to hear himself talk, man.

Speaker 18 That man spit on me. It ain't no rule in this world that's going to stop me from trying to kill his ass.

Speaker 18 I saw it for my own eyes. I wouldn't believe that he said it if I didn't see it.
Bruh, bruh.

Speaker 18 you beyond fight rules. I am going to try and take your life.
Oh, no, Debo.

Speaker 18 Yes.

Speaker 18 No, no, no. I'm beyond hands and feet, bro.
Oh,

Speaker 18 I am going to try and take your life.

Speaker 18 They go have to choke me out to get me off of you.

Speaker 18 I'm stressing out.

Speaker 18 It ain't nothing to stress out about. You know what I'm stressing out about? What you stressing out about? Powerball 1.7 billion.

Speaker 18 I need that. I already got a ticket.
I got my tickets already. How many numbers you got to put in? How many numbers you got to put up until I think it's October, the end of October?

Speaker 18 How many numbers you got to put in? For the power.

Speaker 18 Six. Okay.

Speaker 18 All right. Yeah.
I got two of them right now. I'm going 23, 92.

Speaker 18 Ain't no 92. You got to flip it around 29.
Okay. You could flip it around.
You could go. You could go.
You could go 23, 92. I mean, sorry, 22.
23, 29. You could go 9 and 2.
Okay. Then 9,

Speaker 18 then 2, then

Speaker 18 3, 9, 9, 3, and 2. You could hit a, yeah, your powerball be a two.

Speaker 18 How many numbers are we at now? All right. 223294567.

Speaker 18 Three.

Speaker 18 We only need six, though. Okay.
It's five and one. 23, 29, that's four.
And then I'm going to do nine, two. No, no, no, no, brother.
That's them two numbers, Joe, them two numbers. Oh.

Speaker 18 I ain't never played the Powerball.

Speaker 18 So 23 and 29 would be two numbers. Nine is a number.
Nine is one.

Speaker 18 Two can be one. And then three can be your other one.
Okay, so that's one, two, three, four, five. That's five numbers.
Right. Okay.
No, that's six. And then two is my power ball.

Speaker 18 Yeah. Okay.

Speaker 18 Yes. Hold on.
Let's do it like this. 23, 2392.
Hey, man, I'm gonna be mad than a monk if this hit because we're about to tell everybody how you're about to play these numbers.

Speaker 18 They probably go play that same shit. All right, listen, we're gonna run it like this.
We're gonna run it like this: it's gonna be 23,

Speaker 18 it's gonna be nine, uh-huh, it's gonna be two. Uh-huh.

Speaker 18 We're gonna bump that back

Speaker 18 with a

Speaker 18 32,

Speaker 18 like 29.

Speaker 18 and since we both got two in our number to power ball to two

Speaker 18 but

Speaker 18 it's book

Speaker 18 it's book he but we hit with this one bro i'm gonna be the happiest man amen ever

Speaker 18 i'm gonna have to i'm gonna you got to write you gotta send that send me that send me what i just told you to put down there because i'm gonna have to play that number bro i got you

Speaker 18 listen if

Speaker 18 If we hit this, the subscribers, whoever subscribed right now, we gonna look out. Y'all better subscribe.
if if we hit this you know what i'm gonna do i'm gonna pay you to come

Speaker 18 fight me and i'm gonna pay you good money so everybody could watch me whip your ass boy you hear me whip your ass hey

Speaker 18 hey guys we want to thank y'all for joining us on this episode of debo and joe we need y'all to go over there Hit that like button, hit that subscribe button, and we go get back to y'all Monday, and we gonna be half a billionaires and we out this mother we out and make sure y'all like make sure y'all subscribe or i'm gonna have my good man debo put hands and feet on you

Speaker 18 yeah like i'm gonna do chad you you looking hey just close his eye because i know you blind in it

Speaker 18 let him live debo let him live no matter

Speaker 18 you know what bro you're right you're right you're right i'm out the way you know let me stop go ahead go crazy let me stop i was tripping i was tripping you know what

Speaker 18 hey i i want to thank my lord and savior jesus christ for for being here for me and actually coming and and showing me that i was tripping hey i would never i would

Speaker 18 never

Speaker 18 i i would like to say i would never do that but if i was in that situation and he did that I don't know if I could control myself.

Speaker 18 But I'm working on, I'm building my relationship with my Lord and Savior, man. The more I talk and spend time with him, man,

Speaker 18 the better, the better things get, and the better I feel, man. So, listen, man, and God bless all y'all, man.
Y'all have a beautiful day.

Speaker 18 Chad, you have a beautiful day, brother. Love you.

Speaker 18 We out.

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