Nightcap Hour 1: Unc & Ocho REACT to Packers beating Commanders in TNF, Sterling gets his HOF ring!

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Thursday Night Football featuring Jayden Daniels and the Washington Commanders vs. Jordan Love and the Green Bay Packers. Later, they preview the biggest stories heading into Week 2 of the NFL season!

03:30 - Packers beat Commanders
19:25 - Sterling Sharpe Joins
34:30 - Browns' Grant Delpit says 'not hard' to tackle Derrick Henry
47:05 - Malik Nabers on sideline demeanor
50:25 - Dan Campbell on Ben Johnson’s trick plays

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Unkinocho. Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as the Green Bay Packers at home go to run their record to 2-0 thanks to a 27-18 victory over the Commanders.
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to wrap up the game. All right, the Packers beat the Commanders, OJO, 27-18.
Green Bay moves to 2-0. The Packers have now beaten

two NFC East contending. Well, the two NFC contending teams in back-to-back weeks.
Ocho, what did you make of this ball game? Jordan Love was 19 of 31, 292, two touchdowns.

Two touchdowns, no interceptions. Jaden Daniels was 24 of 42, 200 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions.
But he was hounded all night long.

They pressured him relentlessly and they took him down four times. The commanders were unable to get a running game going.
Oh, Joe, they had 19 rush attempts, 51 yards.

They took the running game away and they unleashed the hounds on Jaden Daniels and they win the ball game 27-18. What did you like about what you saw from the pack?

Listen, from the Packers, everything. Obviously,

Michael Parsons was the story. Jordan Love and those receivers were the story.

They're what we heard about leading up to this game.

But to me, the back end, the back end defensively for the Packers, Xavier McKinney, Brother Nixon on the one side, they were, to me, the most surprising, which popped out on film, which is one of the reasons why I think the Packers are going to go very far this year, not only into the playoffs, but make that run in the NFC to contend for that Super Bowl championship.

Unk.

This is the, what, the Packers haven't started 2-0 since, well, I think 2020, if I'm not mistaken.

And they look phenomenal, not just on offense in Jordan Listen, receivers did exactly what we expected them to do. I'm hoping Jaden Reed is okay.

I think his collarbone, he might have fractured his collarbone.

You can tell the way he fell and they put that weight on it. Yep.

You already know.

But everybody else stepped up. Everybody else stepped up offensively.
Jordan Love

did his thing. Josh Jacobs.
did his thing. But that back in, that back in for the Packers, obviously not having to

the poses and the threats that the Washington Commanders did have were nullified they were nullified because their back end played extremely well um they sitting on they sit they sitting on routes sitting on plays normally that another team you're not sitting on them well they know they don't have to play they don't have to cover long because they know the pressure is going to come so they know what rashawn gary they know with van nest they know what micah parsons they know with those guys wyatt and all those guys is going to generate a pass rush and we don't have to hold up long so hey until they show us they can hold up and there's a chance we get a double move.

Okay, but we're sitting on everything. Hey, we're going to stand.
Hey, we're going to stand back here and we don't believe you have time to run bias.

So if you run bias, hey, the coach is going to say, that's on me. So you're going to have to back up and have to play them a little bit more honestly.

But when you got that kind of relentless pressure.

And the only thing that really saved him a lot tonight, because Jaden Daniels does have legs because they were coming. He did not have a whole lot of time to throw the football.

And once you neutralize that run, now you've made the commanders one-dimensional. Once you make a team team to one-dimensional, now they're at your mercy because guess what?

We already know you can't run it when you want to. We control the terms of this agreement.
And the terms is you're going to have to throw. We know you have to throw, and we're coming to get you.
Yeah.

There were two plays where the defensive back, Brother Nixon, for the Green Bay Packers, that stuck out to me on film.

He was playing off at seven. He did his three-step read.
He's not even looking at it. He's not even looking at the receiver.
Receivers coming off full speed. His eyes locked in on Jaden Dales.
Yeah.

Three steps went. Those eyes shifted back to the receiver and he stayed so fundamentally sound.
Unk. He didn't panic.
And his pedal never came out of his pedal.

Dude ran the route. Dude tried to run a stop route.
Man, he broke on that. It almost got picked going the other way.
Then came back later on in the game.

They say, okay, we see what you're trying to do. We're going to study you now since you're so aggressive and you're jumping everything short.
Unk.

They tried to pump him. He stabbed just a little bit just to throw the timing off a little bit.
Speed turn,

got right back in the hip side,

knocked the ball down. Those two plays to me stuck out tremendously for me because I understand how difficult it is to transition like that as a DB.

And having that eye discipline and being technically sound and savvy, being patient to be able to do what I saw tonight in those two plays,

It's easy to do in practice, but seeing him execute it in a game, knowing that the pressure is going to get there, man, hands down, that backing to me for the Packers stuck out on film.

Back-to-back weeks, last week they allowed 246 yards to the Detroit Lions,

fewer than 250 yards to the

Washington Commanders. That's back-to-back weeks.
That's the first two games of the season since 1995. Micah Parsons generated a team high eight pressures.

He had a half a sack on 37 pass rush attempts in the second game with the Packers. Six of Parsons pressures came in the second half.
Look, he's an edge guy.

You know, and I understand they got a lot of edge guys. And so you're going to have sometimes guys are going to have to line up inside and it's all congested in there, but he needs to be in space.

Yeah. So he can use that quickness.
He can use that ability to move and bend those edges.

I saw the thing they were showing, kind of showing like DT at a 40-degree angle, Michael Parsons at a 42-degree angle. Both can bend the edges.

But I think that's the

thing is, Ocho, you're right. That back end looked really good.
But when you get that kind of push up front, you ain't got a whole up long.

You ain't got the whole up long.

Kraft had an unbelievable job at the tight end position. He had 124 yards the most since Richard Rodgers in week 13, 2015 against Detroit.

That was the miracle in Motown, the Harold Mary game, Ocho. They've been losing the whole game, and then Aaron Rodgers rolls and Richard Rodgers plus the the Hail Mary.

But defensively, there's nothing not to like. Look,

Jordan Love, he was late on one throw. He should have touched another touchdown early in the ball game.
He's just late. Oh,

to Matthew Golden, the one to Matthew Golden. That was easy six, and it allowed the DB to recover.
Yep.

I don't know why he put that much air, but it's okay.

He looked like he tried to touch it instead of just let it go. Just let it go.

Ain't nobody over there, bro. Just go ahead and throw that.

And then he had another when he put too much on it because Golden had split the seams yeah and uh he he probably had a probably he probably should have used a little uh uh uh uh uh uh a shorter club he had too much he had too much club you know what when just just just in comparison matthew good matthew golden runs a 4-4 right and i look at that play i look at that play and this is where i say where i think tyree hill is so special i didn't mean to bring up tyreek but a play like that a ball like that where Tyreek is in that position where he split that safety in that corner he makes that catch and run yeah that but that's that's the difference between i mean people

that but that's the difference between 4-2 and 4-4 though

that yeah you're right he's gonna run up under that right but there's a good chance if he if he doesn't if he if he hitches tyree's gonna outrun it oh yeah absolutely absolutely so the thing is maybe uh in a situation like that you can't you know you can't take the hitch yeah you just got it basically when you just let it go yeah because tyree with a free release yeah oh yeah

with a free

nah i mean because the thing is you got to make you got to make tyree drop step you got to make him do something you can't just let the man have a free release like he run 100 meters just free go he gone well you ask you you really asking for trouble uh

yeah but i i you had to be really impressed with the packers look i'm not overly concerned against washington that was a buzz saw that was a short week uh uh uh and that's no excuse but when if you can't run the football against a team that can generate that kind of pressure you're going to be in for a long night because

you got to give them something else to think about, Ocho. Right now, they're not thinking about anything.
They're not running about Eckler. They're not worried about Merritt, Koski Merritt.

They're not worried about any of those guys because what you've shown is that you can't run the football against our front four.

So now

we'll worry about the run. Hey, y'all handle that.

A linebacker, y'all handle that. We're going hunting.

They did a great job of keeping Jaden Daniels in the pocket. They did a great job of when he escaped the pocket pocket because they got guys that can run.
They got guys that can hunt.

And the coach turned them loose. Hey,

these dogs going hunting. And they did a great job of tracking Jaden Daniels tonight.

24-42, 200 yards, two touchdowns. He didn't turn it over, but he was under constant pressure.

Michael Parsons had eight pressures alone. He sacked him four times.
So they probably pressured him another, you know, probably 12, 13 times tonight.

That's exactly what I'm going to ask you.

Do you see the presence, the presence of Michael Parson and how he hits that defense? Obviously, obviously, listen, they were already good, even if he wasn't there.

But his addition to that and speeding up everything else for whoever they're playing offensively, being destructive, throwing off the timing, helping that back in where the DBs right now. But

they looking like Hall of Famous out there now. Yeah.
Looking like Hall of Famous, where it seems as if they are making all the plays.

But if you don't understand the game, you're looking from the outside, looking in, you'll be like, oh my goodness, boy, these boys back there is all world.

All world, you're right. But that, but you can do that, Ocho.

Yeah, uh, you look at the secondary when you had uh, Reggie, when Reggie was in Philly, you look at those guys, all those guys that were because you had Reggie, you had Clyde Simmons, you had uh uh uh Jake rested, so Jerome Brown.

Yeah, look at what you had. So, EA and them back there, they didn't have to hold up long.
No, they didn't have to hold up long, yeah. So, the ball's gonna to come out quick.
You got Reggie.

You got Reggie on one side. You got Jay.
You got Clyde on another side. You got Jay Boogie.

Hey, who Eric Allen was on one side, right? Yeah. You remember who was on the other side of Eric Allen? Or do you remember?

It was the defense. Let me see if I can remember.
They were

Reggie, Clyde, Jerome Brown,

Byron. I think Byron Evans.

Seth Joyner, EA, Muddy Waters.

I can't, off the top of my head, Ocho,

I can't remember at all.

I can see Eric Allen with that 21-on, clear as day. Yeah.
Clear as day.

I can't remember who was on the other side, Ocho. Yeah.

But

they had a very good defense.

Man, you look, EA,

he was in New Orleans also. Played in New Orleans.
What? You talk about on the, it must be on the back end because I don't remember that. I know you don't.

Uh, nah, he finished up, if I'm not mistaken, I think he finished up with the Raiders.

You remember him with the Raiders? I remember him, I remember him with the Raiders. I remember that, and I definitely remember.

I think he went from Philly to New Orleans,

New Orleans to the Raiders. Okay,

can you check that?

Eric Allen. I think he went from Philly to New Orleans and then New Orleans to

Philly to New Orleans, orators yeah

and

if i'm not mistaken he was uh when they had the uh uh the dome the dome patrol right when they had paps willings ricky jack uh uh vaughn johnson and they had sam mills the field the field

middle linebacker sam mills yeah yeah yeah yeah

um i think i think e8 was there with them so he's always had a pass rush in front of him that's why he was sitting on everything he had the record before deron bland broke it with those six with those uh five return touchdowns right uh because he a was sitting on everything

um but they were they were they were they were they were loaded they were they were a very good team now he was a outstanding defensive back he had great skills uh

he could take the ball you know he could take the ball away and you know the thing he had great he had great feet he was small smallish and you know but he realized he didn't have to hold up long.

Yeah. But a lot of those guys had,

I think Ricky Jack had already gone. If I'm not sure, I think Swill might have still been there.
I think Sam Mills at that point in time had already gone to

Carolina.

So, but they were, they, they had, they, he had a, he cut his teeth over in Philly. That's where, you know, most of the people remember him from, but he had an outstanding career.

Jordan Love finished 9 of 15, 175 yards. Both touchdowns came against the commanders, Blitz.
On throws of 10 plus air yards against the Blitz, Love was six of eight for 144 yards and a touchdown.

His 14.5 air yards per attempt is a career high mark. Ocho, did you like what you saw from Jordan Love? Yeah, absolutely.

Because the whole point of Blitzing is to throw the timing off and get to you before you can get the ball out.

Jordan Love is doing exactly what veteran quarterbacks do and understand, okay, based on what I see, based on tendencies, based on watching film, I already know what's coming.

Once Jordan Love makes his points, he communicates with that offensive line, and they see what's coming.

No matter how much you bluffing and rotating and doing all that shenanigans, oh, we know what you're getting ready to do.

And when a quarterback knows it ahead of time, you get the kind of night you got from him when it comes to passing the ball when they're blitzing.

I'm not sure what percentage that the commander did blitz, but I guarantee you, 98% of the time that they did, Jordan Love completed that pass.

Yeah, well, you're right, Ocho. You try to throw the timing off.
But those receivers are so quick. Did you see that touchdown by Dobbs at the goal line? Yes.
Hey.

Listen, I'm not a defensive back, huh? I'm not a defensive back, but I love defensive back play. All he did was stick to the outside.
Why are you even going for the first move?

You got to have patience like Sally May. Keep your heels on the goal line and don't go nowhere.

What you moving for? He didn't even make a move.

Because all Dobbs did was stab outside and come in.

Because when you study Green Bay,

what route did Devontae Adams catch so much? but it got that fade stopper that speed out the fade

yeah yeah yeah okay you're right you're right you're right you're right hey how many times we don't see devontae adams run that two-yard out for a touchdown yeah you better go for it right you're right because it's go because here's the thing ocho if that man run that speed out and you're not close they're like bro what you waiting on why why you playing in the c man right

that's a really that's a really hard and that's why i say ocho if you up there

if you if you up there ocho are you gonna press or not because if you up in a press position you got to get your hands on the guy you let a guy free release if you up there you let a guy free release you

yeah especially down there because you get oh cho the man ain't got but two three yards go for a touchdown so he completed he in the end zone you're right you're right i'm listening i i never understood with dbs there's one db that i've seen that's been able to do it because he he's he's so disciplined and yes movement is so good where he can be up and press and not touch you at all because he can stay in front of you the the whole time and that's denzel ward obviously you have other other players that are good that do it a little differently but they love to use their hands to maintain a leverage throughout the riot well throughout the route and stay on top of you but uh i i listen you gotta if you're gonna get up there and press put your hands on him and throw the timing off right but put your hands because it throws the timing off right away and now superhuman shaq

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Yep. We got a very special guest joining us tonight, Packers Hall of Famer.
He received his Hall of Fame ring tonight.

My brother, we became the first two brothers to be inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame. And he takes a few moments out of his time.

I mean, I think that's him. I mean, I mean, I can't see a whole lot, but I think that's him.
I mean.

Your phone muted.

Your phone.

Can somebody tell Jamie that his phone is muted?

He's gonna get it. He's working on it.
He's working on it. He's working on it.
No, it just.

See, he like me.

He can't work technology either.

Nope. We can't hear you, bro.

All right, how about now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. There you go.

Oh, grab my jacket, please. How about now? Can you? Yeah, we now.

Yeah, oh, you, oh, you just got out of the car. So you at the hotel now? Yeah, I just got, I just got to the hotel.
Yeah.

Are you in Green Bay or you in Appleton? I'm in Green Bay, bro. I just left the game.
Oh, okay. I just left the game.

So you get your ring. So now this is this is the final piece.
You got the, you got the, uh, you got the call

when we was in and came down to Atlanta.

You get fitted. You go to, you know, all that stuff.
the Super Bowl, you get fitted, and then all the build up to it, you get

the ceremony, the induction in August.

And now this is the final piece in front of those stands that you cut your teeth and you made a name and you made the Sharp family the first Sharp and you made us proud.

So now after you've had all this opportunity, you had the better parts of seven months to absorb this. What does this moment finally mean? Has it finally hit you now?

Really? You know, the thing is, it's one of those things, just the line of what has to happen kind of thing. You know how, you know how it goes.
We went through this.

We went through this when you went through it. You know, we went through the whole, we went through the whole, you know, this is what we have to do.
This is where you have to be.

This is what you're going to get. So it's just another step in the process, man.
And I just look at it that way. I don't look at it as.

You know, my career ended in 1994. You know, my football was done in 1994.
And this is just an extenuation of,

you know, being able to come back and stand in front of the fans that I played in front of to let them know that I appreciate them.

You know, to get a ring that is 10 times too big to wear every day

to do anything with. But, you know, it was a good time.

I got Suzanne some here.

They're right there. There they go, right there.

There they are. Hey, Suze.
Hey, there they go.

Is that, hold on, is that Suze or the Vermin?

Hey, the the Vermin right here. There she goes, right here.
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Yeah, man. Hey, Susan.

Yeah, but see, we were doing, you know, it was good. We got a chance to come back and do that and

just be here. So, I mean, you got to, well, think about it, man.
I don't know. When was the last time Susan was back in Green Bay?

2004?

Yeah, 2004.

Yeah.

Yeah, so

it's been a while.

And you hadn't been back since what you went to the ring. You went to the ring of honor,

right?

So you've only been back a couple of times.

I hosted the first

show for NFL Network after they won the Super Bowl in

2010. I can't remember.
Oh, nine or ten.

Okay, so I came back when they played the, they had the first game on Thursday night, and I was at NFL Network then. So I hosted then.

Yeah.

So yeah, since 2011, I came back for

your podcast. The first time I've been back since 2011.
Wow.

We can tell you just got on the elevator, too.

Yeah, I know.

We got eyes everywhere. We all hear your conversation.
And that's the whole point.

The point is, hey, game's over, festivities over, bro. It's time to go to bed now.

We're on our way back up to the room.

What

y'all leave first thing in the morning? Because y'all got to go from

y'all fly directly. You got to go to Chicago.
I got to go to Chicago. Oh, okay.

But, but, no, it was a great night, man. We got a chance to enjoy

some friends we haven't seen in a while. I got Perry,

Ron Hallstrom. Of course, Holler Family Leroy Butler was here um

olympian dan jansen was here so it was a good time

you know it was a good it was a good time for

it was a good time for us man so we we enjoyed that we did that and now we're back at the room getting ready to get our stuff packed and get out of here

I mean, what is it, man?

Because a lot of those people that were in attendance tonight, they didn't get an opportunity to personally see, some did, but not a lot of those people didn't get an opportunity to see your, uh, see you personally, see your career.

What does it mean to you? What did it feel like to have 70,000 fans? A really, because they love their Packer player.

80,000 fans. 80,000

to be able to let them know that, you know, I know that I'm playing.

What I said tonight, Shan, I got to say in front of

grands and great grands.

So

it was pretty cool to be able to talk to grands and great grands about what it meant for me to be, you know,

I understood, you know, because, and you know, when I first got to Green Bay, they weren't very good. No.
They were not.

And when I left Green Bay, they were a lot better. And

the wonderful thing about our fans is they're not fair weather, bro. Whether it's minus 300 degrees or if it's 86,

they show up. Oh, sure.
They show up. I mean, oh, sure.

My brother's first NFL game, I thought I'd killed him because he froze to death. That's how cold it was.

And so, but the thing was, is he was there. The fans were there also.
So it was, it's tremendous to be able to let them know.

Because, you know, when I left the game, the fans didn't know I wasn't coming back right they didn't know you know all they knew was is oh he had a neck injury he didn't get to play in the two playoff games and so he is you know

god we we're building something they didn't know that that was my last game right had no idea so and and and i don't know if you guys got a chance to say

Goodbye. And you know, I got a chance to say hello because I was the seventh pick in the first round.

But I never got a chance to say goodbye. Not that I needed one, but, you know, if you say hello, you really kind of feel like you want a chance to say goodbye.
And to dine, I got a chance to do that.

That's awesome. No, I retired.
You remember in 04, you know, CBS gave me the call and they asked me to sit at the table and I realized and, you know, you're like, look, man.

You get too old to play football. You don't get too old to talk.

And there's no guarantee that this position will be available next year when you really want to retire because you want to go back and get year 15.

There's nothing you can do that's going to change people's perception of you. You got the championships, you got all the records.
You know, hey,

go ahead and take this job. And it was an easy, an easy decision for me.
Now, I just called Mike and said, Mike, I appreciate the opportunity.

I would really love to come back, but this opportunity that I have that's before me right now is just too good to pass up.

I had a thing, I got my teammates came back, and I was like, Hey, thank you guys for everything. But uh, hey, four, out the door, right.
Yeah. And that's it.
But, you know, when you play,

we're all at different stages or parts or reasons for playing this game. I played football because I wanted to.
You know, I played football to impress my brother.

And when it was over for me, and I said this to the media tonight, the only two people that were happier that my career ended were the two doctors that told me I should never play again.

I was okay with my career ending. You know, I was okay with moving on.
I was okay with using my college degree to be able to

see what was out there, what was next.

I was looking forward to what was next.

And so being able to do that, man, I was happy about being able to do next. I was really prepared for being able to do next.
And I was in a neck brace and didn't know what was going to be next.

I didn't know what was going to be next. Right.

So man, congratulations, man.

Thanks for taking time out. I know you got a lot going on.
I know you got to get packed and you ready to get up out of there. No, man, no.
Hey, hey, hey, I want to do

one thing

for your.

Is she over here?

Yeah, don't worry.

Oh, is she not there yet? She should be. She's about to be there.
Hold on, man, because I want to introduce your audience.

You know how I am, man. I don't do, I don't do, what's the word I'm looking for? I don't do recognition very well.
I don't. I never have.

I'm more of a behind the scenes. Somebody else gets the recognition.

But I want to, I, I. I would love the opportunity if you will allow me two minutes if she's here.
I want to introduce you to the architect on why I came back to Green Bay.

I have not been on Lambo's field since the day I stood on that field watching the playoff game, the last playoff game. So I have not been back, but I want to see if she, oh, she's here.

Hold on, she's here. Hold on.

Okay, so, bro, bro, this is Kathy. Hey,

I met her at the Hall of Fame.

I would not be here if it wasn't for her.

You know me, bro. I'm not nostalgic.
I'm not that kind of guy that needs my ego stroked or, oh, well, let me come back and be recognized.

But the reason I came back to Green Bay on this night to get my ring, because I told the Hall of Famer to just send it to the house.

The reason I came back is for her, because she has been, she's wonderful at what she does.

She is very passionate about what she does. And you know what? She got me through this.
She said she would.

She was the reason that the party went so well. The Sunday party went so well.
Shane, you were there. You know what that looked like and how that was.

This is Kathy. She made this work.
And I just want to give her her flowers while I can in front of your audience. Thank you, Ocho, and let her know that I really appreciate her.

She's a member of the family now. So we can talk to her any way we want because she's a member of the family well kathy thank you thank you

and it was a good night we had a good time we're gonna have one more drink and we're going to bed all right kathy thank you for the great job that you did at the hall of fame it was unbelievable i i speak for everybody that was in attendance especially my family it was very well put together thank you for handling everything to get him and the family to and from Lambeau to receive his ring.

I personally can't thank you enough. But on behalf of the Sharp family, thank you for all you've done for my brother in this whole entire

well. Thank you.
Thank you. It's our pleasure, really.
All right, man.

All right, man. Y'all lay it down like y'all supposed to.
We'll talk later. Thank you.
All right, bro. All right.
Yep.

Um,

you put me on spot. I want some podcasts.

Yeah.

I know he does a

lot.

Man, log off.

I know he doesn't.

My brother's going to have a fourth surgery on his eye, his right eye.

He found out he had a detached retina, and he almost lost the eye. And he's had several surgeries on the eye trying to get it corrected.
And this is one of the reasons that they had it so early.

He drove to Canton.

And

he really didn't want to come because the pressure, the doctor says, you know, you keep risking it going up into that pressurized situation with the eye.

So he's going to have his fourth surgery on his eye

later this month, and hopefully they get it corrected. And it's a process that he has to spend about 14 hours a day face down

for six weeks.

He has to sleep in that position. So he bought, you know, one of those cradle tables like a massage therapist.
So he spends the bulk of his day face down. It might be more than that.

I think it's somewhere between 14 and 20 hours a day face down for six weeks. And so

I want to take the time now to hopefully that thing, it goes well this time and we won't have to have another surgery on the eye and he gets to keep the eye. So

Nightcap family, say a prayer for him as he's about to go on, you know, go through another surgery. And hopefully this time

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I keep telling them not to say that. I'm no superhuman.
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All right, Ocho, but now we get back to our normally scheduled program.

And nearly a year after knocking Derrick Henry to the ground with a big hit, Browns Grant Delpit delivered another shot at Henry.

Asked Thursday, how hard is it to bring a 6'3, 250-pound Derrick Henry down? Delpit quickly answered, not hard. Henry responded to Delpitt later that day saying he was aware of Delpit comment.

He had a quote. We'll see on Sunday.
Yeah, I like it.

I like Delpitt coming out publicly like that. Obviously, you look at so many players that

play against the Ravens, that played against the Titans when Derrick Hamburg was there, that turned away from contact, that shied away from contact, that chose to allow him to run by them, and they rather attack them from the side and make a business decision instead of attacking them head-on.

Delpit is one of the few. I mean, there might be

maybe one or two other safeties that really just don't care, Unk. That don't care nothing about their bodies.
And they're going to go in there and stick their face in there. And it's man on man.

It's Manio on Imano. Delpit kind of setting the tone for the defense, coming out with comments like that.

Obviously, giving the Ravens bullets to board material, but them having the personnel to be able to back that up. Now, they now they got to do just that.
They got to back it up.

Catch his ass going left and right, catch him going east and west. Once you allow him to get north, going north, you already know what time it is.
But that's the problem.

You already know what time it is. You do realize now Dick Henry's gonna go out of his way to see if you bought that.

You know what I'm saying?

Hey, yeah, you know, you know, he's gonna go out of his way.

And we're going to see. We're going to see if it's not as hard as you said it is.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Because there ain't a whole lot of safeties that's looking to tackle Derrick Henry head-on, especially if he knows you coming.

See, it's easy to sneak up on somebody or you hit somebody, you know, he's trying to stiff arm somebody and you catch him. Now he knows, oh, Grant,

what's the number, y'all? Okay. Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it. I got it.
Listen. I got it.

I'll take it from here.

I like it.

Hey, don't block him. Zay, don't worry about him.

Hey, get somebody else. Hey, you take Denzel Ward because I don't want him to try to have it to chase me down.
I'll take care of the safety.

Because you know, Ocho, in a situation like that, a lot of times.

We can't block everybody. There's one person free.
It's kind of like the punt returner. Punt returner, we're going to have everybody else blocked up.
You got the punter.

You got to block him. I take everything else.
I take everything else. Then everybody to say, hey, don't even worry about Grant Delpitt.

I got that. I like it.
But look, this is an old, look,

there's no love lost between these two teams. No.

Baltimore is seething. They know they let a game, but so is Cleveland.
Cleveland say, we had the Bengals dandy right. We missed a PAT and a field goal.
Yeah.

Lamar Jackson and that Baltimore Ravens said, hold on, wait a minute. Man, we had a 15-point lead under four minutes to go.

Oh, we're about to go ahead and try to do something bad to y'all. Miles Garrett said, y'all ain't about to do nothing bad to nobody.

Not if I got something to say about it. But I tell you what, number 77 better do a better job than what he did against in Buffalo.
Hey, that was bad, huh?

That was bad. That was bad.
He looked like he was lost on some play. Hell, I thought he was out there doing the macarena.
Just because he didn't have anybody in front of him.

Obviously, if nobody's in front of you, the closest man to you, help your partner out.

Look to your right. Help your partner out.
He going, he's sitting there turning in circles, not touching nobody. Nope.
Like, what are we doing? Head up,

inside, most dangerous man. That's how we block.
Normally to your inside, which is normal. You got a guy head up? That's you.
You got to guy inside out. That's you.

Other than that, if ain't nobody there, you take the most dangerous man. Like you said, Ocho.
Hey, help somebody out.

Yeah, absolutely. You know what I do like too from Grant Unc?

We don't get this enough. We don't get this enough in today's NFL.
We don't get players coming out and not saying anything malicious, but posing a competitive challenge to their opponent.

I like it because now for me, there are a lot of games that's being played at one o'clock, huh? There are a lot of games that are going to be being played at one o'clock.

But you know which one I want to tune into? Simply because of the back and forth between those two.

I want to see the Browns and I want to see the Ravens because I want to see what's going to happen when the Ravens are on offense and they have to run the ball.

And is Grant delpit going to come to the party when the door is open that's all i want to see that's that's all i want to see amongst the other things that those teams have to offer offensively and defensively everybody's going to be watching 22

versus what what what number del pit wear

he wear one because i know greg news from zero right

whatever it is i i i want to see i can't wait i can't i'm gonna be front and center matter of fact i'm gonna be at the sports book and i'm gonna tell him in the sports book, I want the Ravens and Browns game on the big screen.

I want it on the big screen. He's nine.
Oh, nine. Okay.
Okay. Okay.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah.

My thing is, Ocho, is like, look, I don't have a guy. Because here's the thing.
There are no ramifications.

Because if he lose, they're going to say, well, what did you want him to say? No, I wanted you to do what you said you was going to do. Yes, sir.

Don't talk about, oh, it was a game and you know, hey, I ain't backing out. No, no, no, no, no.

you said that man ain't hard to tackle yeah now i'm gonna need you to drop some lumber i'm gonna need you to drop anchor and make derrick henry feel you yeah yeah i ain't talking about no side and jumping on his back and the whole but no you said he's not hard to tackle right i want to see if he's not i don't i don't want to see i ain't talking about miles gary i'm not talking about nobody else i'm talking about you you said that

So now you wrote checks. Everybody else got to cash.

Now, I don't know how much money y'all got as a defense in this account but all i know is that you wrote a check that y'all ass gonna have to cash yeah i like it i like it that's that's all i know

and

and most of the time when a player comes out and speaks and speaks out as you look at you look at me most of the time from my office of player when i did all that talking for 11 11 12 years however long i played i knew one thing not only do i have to back it up but i put pressure on myself i took the pressure off the rest of my teammates so all they had to do was go out there and do their job because I had 10 other people trying to knock my head off.

Absolutely.

I don't play on the defensive side of the ball. Now, if you play on defense and you come out and you're talking like that, oh, you ain't got no choice but to show up because now all eyes are on you.

Right. All the pressure is on you.
Now you got to fulfill everything you said.

Man, right about that. Hey, I can't wait.

We know there's no love loss between these two teams.

You know, they're in the same division. They've been in the same division.
Like I said, the Ravens were the old Browns. Now the Browns have their own team.
That just goes to show you what.

Because think about it now.

The NFL made Art Model leave the Cleveland Brown colors

and the records in Cleveland. No other team in the history of moving has ever had to do that.
The Cardinals did not leave in St. Louis.
They took them.

The Raiders, they moved from Oakland to LA, L.A. back to Oakland, Oakland

Vegas. They're still silver and black, and they still got their records.
The Rams have moved.

They were in St. Louis.
So were the Cardinals.

Nobody,

even the Houston, the Houston Oilers, they moved to Tennessee.

They didn't have to leave that.

The Colts were in Baltimore.

They left in 1984 in the middle of the night. They didn't tell anybody.

Only Art Model had to leave his colors and the records and they got a new team. Yeah.

So there's no love loss, especially between the city and Mr. Model.
But a lot of the people that was there doing that process, the Ravens have been in Baltimore now since 1996.

Since 1996, so damn near 30 years. Well, if 30 years.

What's the hostility for? Right.

Look,

I played, you know, look, obviously, I played two years with the Ravens and we played the Browns.

We beat them, beat the hell out of them the first two years. They beat us the second year there.

But I'm going to see. I'm with you.
I'm going to make sure I'm watching. You know, I'm going to make sure I have my box on and have my look, my

computer, because I'm going to be watching. because I want to see.

Now, you best believe now.

I'm going to say, Ocho.

I saw somebody with an

alligator mouth with a hummingbird ass. Because somebody was doing a lot of talking.
Yeah. And he ain't have a lot of bricks in his back pocket.
So we go see this, Ocho. Hey, let's start.

They got some great games on Sunday. They got the Eagles.

We got the Super Bowl rematch.

Super Bowl rematch.

But I'm going to play very close attention to that game. Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Listen, for me, the number one game to watch for me, despite the Super Bowl rematch, is the Ravens and the Browns, simply because of the trash talk and the exchange of trash talk.

If the goddamn Chiefs happen to start at 0-2, well, hey, it might be time to hit the panic button.

But again, if you have 15 at the helm, what you do in September really doesn't matter because by the time you get to the back end of the season, when it matters most, the Chiefs are going to be in the race.

So regardless of who wins this early super bowl rematch in week two

ain't really mean it ain't really meaning nothing

so we're going to find out cleveland doing a lot of talking we're going to find out if they're going to be able to back it up the question also ocho the ravens what if they fall to 0-2 oh well hey um i think the ravens falling the 0-2

and the chiefs falling to 0-2

there's no reason to hit the panic button huh there's no reason because who are the quarterbacks Patrick Mahomes. Who's a quarterback?

Lamar Jackson. That's a hole that they can dig themselves out of.

But also,

look at the quarterbacks in the division with them. Joe Burrow and Aaron Rodgers.
That's not the normal cast of characters that you normally see with a team. Because, okay, now

go to Patrick Mahomes' division. You got Justin Herbert.
You got Bo Nicks. So you got guys now that

can get great quarterback play. So this notion that, oh, it's a no-brainer.
No, no, no. Now, mind you, you've already lost to the Chiefs.
I mean, to the Chargers. Yes.

And next week, you're on the road to the Giants. So it's not like the Chiefs got an easy schedule.

Because when you win the division, you got your, you know, you got your team that you're going to play outside of it. You got your division cross matchups.
Maybe it's, I think.

Kansas City might play the NFC East or something like that. But then you also get division winners from other divisions.

So

ain't no cupcakes. Nah, no.

That's one thing about the NFL. They make you earn it year after year.
Oh, yeah.

Oh, Joe, after Sunday's loss to the commanders, Malik neighbors explained a fiery sideline exchange with head coach Brian Dayball as an attempt to boost people up because he felt like the team's energy was not where it needed to be.

I was trying to get the offense going. I was trying to tell people, get rolling.
The lights were on. The game was on.
It's time to play.

i feel like we just got pushed over and everybody was just talking about attitude and stuff like that it's just i got that mbf

nasty bee face uh it's a you know what i'm saying that's just what it is that's just my face i don't know i don't know uh what what all you uh what all you talk to me about to talk to me i look the same way every time i don't know it's just how i am but i guess i have to smile more he said that he's spoken to coach day ball about just the sideline demeanor since the game and knows he has to be more conscious of it in the future because of how many eyes are on him during the game.

Most definitely. You know, they will misconscrew that.
They will misconscrew your passion, you know, at that position, especially play and receiver. Now,

when you have a quarterback that does the same things like that, and he shows that passion and enthusiasm for the game to get his teammates going and

you're having confrontation and what they think is confrontation from the outside looking in, then it's just you reacting to

the low,

what's the word, the low excitement of your team and trying to get everybody going,

trying to get the fellas to get to going when things aren't going well.

Maybe things are going well, not going well offensively or things aren't going well defensively and hyping everybody up around you. Sometimes it works.
But when you're a skilled position,

it's frowned upon.

You have to carry yourself a certain way because the mannerisms in what you do, they call it disgruntle. If a quarterback does it, they call it passion.

It's the same act, but they word it differently depending on who you are and what position you do play.

And you have to be cautious, and especially playing in that goddamn New York. Correct.
Got to be cautious.

You get labeled disgruntled. You get labeled, they use the term malcontent.

You know what I'm saying? You're a diva.

Yeah. Well, why can't I have passion? Why can't I want to win? Right.

Oh, I'm selfish. Right, right.

I mean, listen, we've seen. One man passion is another man's selfishness.
It's another man's diva.

The funny thing about it is we've seen Tom Brady do it on the sideline. I'm talking about go the hell off.
Yes. We've seen a lot of quarterbacks do it.
Yeah, I'm not.

We've seen Peyton Manning do it. I mean, go the hell off.
I'm talking about screaming at his offensive lineman.

Remember that clip, chat? If y'all remember the clip with Jeff Saturday and Peyton Manning going at it on the side? Oh, my goodness. That happens all the time.
It happens all the time.

But when Dez Bryan does it, oh, it's an issue. Oh, it's a problem.
When

Steve Smith does it, it's a problem. When does it, it was a problem.
But anytime it's a quarterback that does the exact same thing in a passionate manner,

it's definitively described different.

It's always been that way. Always.

And it always will. So we're not going to change it by discussing it here tonight.
People are going to look at it one way. It all depends on who's doing it.
Okay.

So that's where we are on that. One thing that Ben Johnson became known for as an offensive coordinator in Detroit was the trick plays.

But Dan Campbell said trick plays are the least of his concern as he gets ready for Johnson's offense. You practice one or two things.

You do every for every opponent, but I don't really care about trick plays. Let's just handle the meat and potatoes of an offense and a defense and what we think they're going to hang their hat on.

Let's stop that first. Let's worry about that.
Let's make sure we're all on point and we'll handle the other stuff. They may hit us with one.
That's all right. That happens.
Get back to the huddle.

Let's get on to the next play. Ocho,

you give the Bears a chance to beat Detroit in Detroit?

Absolutely. Absolutely.
I think

they have a chance in general simply because Ben Johnson knows the Lions very well. He knows the deficiencies in which they have defensively.
He knows what he can attack and what he can attack.

He knows what plays the call to play to the strengths of Caleb Williams, and he knows Caleb Williams' weaknesses as well. Again, collectively as a team offensively, they're going to have to play well.

They're going to have to play well. And Caleb has to make all the right decisions when it comes to throwing the football.

He got to make all the right decisions and be a little bit more accurate, huh? Because you're not going to get very many chances.

The chances that you do have, you have to maximize on all opportunities.

We have opportunity for big catches, big plays, and touchdowns you do and he let one slip he had uh uh uh he had dj moore i think and he overshot him obviously put that he should have put that ball in there because they kind of blew the coverage and he kind of sailed it on him yeah that's what you're saying when you get opportunities like that you get when you get opportunity when someone makes a mistake gotta make you gotta make them pay

because guess what happens if a guy misses a block if if there's an uh an unblocked defensive lineman he's gonna hit your quarterback in the back and he's gonna make him fumble the ball yes sir.

So you've got to make them pay the ultimate price when they make a mistake. You've got to hit your head on the goalpost.
You can't say, damn, man, I missed that up.

No, you can't miss that because they're not going to miss that opportunity. I guarantee you, they get a free rusher.
They're going to make your quarterback turn it over.

That is really, that's the gist of it. And you mess around and make a mistake on the other side of the ball.
They're going to make you pay for it.

So you need to make guys pay for the mistakes that they make. So if they don't have, if if you have an unblocked lineman,

take the ball away. If they blow an assignment and the safety in the corner get mixed up about who was supposed to roll,

you've got to make them pay. Yes.

That's what you got to do. And I don't think the Bears did that because they had some opportunities the other night against Minnesota and Caleb Williams didn't make them pay.

But when they got their opportunities, Minnesota made them pay.

And so that's what has to happen this week on the road. You're playing in a hostile environment.
Yeah, they're familiar with each other. Obviously, Dan Campbell was the head coach.

So he knows this tenant. He knows Ben Johnson's tendencies.
Now, the thing is, the D coordinator, now, I don't know, he might have been brought up because obviously AG is the head coach of the Jet.

Yeah. But they kind of know, they kind of know what Ben likes to run.
Because guess what? In training camp, you script. Okay,

I want to see this defense against this formation.

I want to see this formation against this defense. Yeah.
Excuse me. So you sit plays up you you're familiar with each other even though the dc wasn't in the dc role when ben was there

so but uh i i you know look caleb is on the clock caleb has to play better now because guess what

they're not gonna blame ben johnson

no it's it's going to the quarterback and listen there is there was a graphic i'm not sure what the graphic uh what the graphic was but in their first two seasons well and then you look at the numbers in comparison when mit trubiski was there and caleb williams

They look very similar. They look very similar.
They do. They look very similar.
So

I'm excited for that game. I think the winner in this game is whichever team could get the other to be one-dimensional.

The Bears got to be able to run the ball to be able to execute what they want to do offensively. And the same thing goes for the Lions.

The Lions, in their first game, they weren't really able to establish the run like they normally would with Montgomery and Gibbs.

So this is the game where they need to establish a run so it can open open up their offense. So their office of play caller can be able to do more and open up the playbook.
Yeah.

You're right. They're going to, I mean, both teams, because Green Bay did a great job of shutting down the run.
And then guess what? Putting pressure on Jerry Goff. Yeah.

That's what the Bears are going to try to do. Bears are going to try to put pressure on Goff because he's not mobile.
And he's not a guy that really makes plays outside of the pocket.

He makes plays on script. Great play call.
He can execute it. But now when you got to get a script,

rolling out of the pocket, throwing on on the move that's not what he's that's not what he's good at no and so the bears are going to try to make him uncomfortable uh dennis allen has done a great job he's one of the better defensive coordinators in this league and so we're going to find we're going to find out um somebody's going to 0-2 yeah yeah no matter what

no matter somebody's going to 0-2 just like saturday huh

just like saturday Both fighters, Canelo and Bud, got a zero. Somebody gonna have an L.

We don't know who, but who's L. Canela already got one lost.
Remember, he lost to L. I mean, I'm okay.
My bad, but he has two, actually. Two lost.

Mayweb and Bovo. Okay, yeah, yeah.
I don't know.

I just drew a blank trying to do the comparison. Yeah.
These two teams.

But we're going to find out.

Caleb just got to make the plays.

But I think the biggest thing for Caleb is that

is he going to be a guy that makes, like, make plays from the pocket? Because

he seems to like he's better outside of the pocket, making plays on the move. Yeah.
And it's hard to win a championship like that. Most guys, look, that's auxiliary.

Your meat and potatoes need to be throwing the ball from the pocket.

He can do both, though, huh? He can do both. He can do both.
Well, we're going to find out.

We're going to find out. And now, superhuman Shaq.

I keep telling them not to say that. I'm no superhuman.
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