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All right, the Packers beat the Commanders, Ocho, 27-18.

Green Bay moves to 2-0.

The Packers have now beaten

two NFC East contending.

Well, the two NFC contending teams in back-to-back weeks.

OJo, what did you make of this ball game?

Jordan Love was 19 of 31, 292, two touchdowns.

Two touchdowns, no interceptions.

Jaden Daniels was 24 of 42, 200 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, but he was hounded all night long.

They pressured him relentlessly and they took him down four times.

The commanders were unable to get a running game going.

Oh, Joe.

They had 19 rush attempts, 51 yards.

They took the running game away and they unleashed the hounds on Jaden Daniels and they win the ball game 27-18.

What did you like about what you saw from the pack?

Listen, from the Packers, everything.

Obviously,

Michael Parsons was a story.

Jordan Love and those receivers were the story.

They're what we heard about leading up to this game.

But to me, the back end, the back end defensively for the Packers, Xavier McKinney, Brother Nixon on the one side, they were, to me, the most surprising, which popped out on film, which is one of the reasons why I think the Packers are going to go very far this year.

Not only into the playoffs, but make that run in the NFC to contend for that Super Bowl championship.

Unk,

this is the what?

The Packers haven't started 2-0 since, well, I think 2020, if I'm not mistaken.

And they look phenomenal, not just on offense in Jordan Love.

Listen, receivers did exactly what we expected them to do.

I'm hoping Jaden Reid is okay.

I think his collarbone, he might have fractured his collarbone.

You can tell with the way he fell and they put that weight on it.

Yep.

You already know.

But everybody else stepped up.

Everybody else stepped up offensively.

Jordan Love

did his thing.

Josh jacobs did his thing but that back in that backing for the packers obviously not having to

the the poses and the threats that the washington commanders did have were nullified they were nullified because that back in played extremely well onk they sitting on they sit they sitting on routes sitting on plays normally that another team you're not sitting on them Well, they know they don't have to play.

They don't have to cover long because they know the pressure is going to come.

So they know what Rashawn Gary.

They know what Van Ness.

They know what Michael Parsons.

They know what those guys, Wyatt and all those guys, is going to generate a pass rush and we don't have to hold up long.

So hey, until they show us they can hold up and there's a chance we get a double move.

Okay, but we sitting on everything.

Hey, we're going to stand, hey, we're going to stand back here and we don't believe you have time to run bias.

So if you run bias, hey, the coach is going to say, that's on me.

So you're going to have to back up and have to play up a little bit more honestly.

But when you got that kind of relentless pressure, and the only thing that really saved them a lot tonight, because Jaden Daniels does have legs because they were coming.

He did not have a whole lot of time to throw the football.

And once you neutralize that run, now you've made the commanders one-dimensional.

Once you make a team to one-dimensional, now they're at your mercy.

Because guess what?

We already know you can't run it when you want to.

We control the terms of this agreement.

And the terms is you're going to have to throw.

We know you have to throw, and we're coming to get you.

Yeah, there were two plays with a defensive back, Brother Nixon, for the Green Bay Packers, that stuck out to me on film.

He was playing off at seven.

He did his three-step read.

He's not even looking at there.

He's not even looking at the receiver.

Receiver is coming off full speed.

His eyes locked in on Jaden Dales.

Yeah.

Three steps went.

Those eyes shifted back to the receiver.

And he stayed so fundamentally sound, Uncle.

He didn't panic.

And his pedal never came out of his pedal.

Dude ran the run.

Dude tried to run a stop route.

Man, he broke on that.

It almost got picked going the other way then came back later on in the game they say okay we see what you're trying to do we're going to study you now since you're so aggressive and you're jumping everything short um

they tried to pump him he stabbed just a little bit just to throw the timing off a little bit speed turn got right back got right back in the hip side

knocked the ball down Those two plays to me stuck out tremendously for me because I understand how difficult it is to transition like that as a DB and having that eye discipline and being technically sound and savvy, being patient to be able to do what I saw tonight in those two plays.

It's easy to do in practice, but seeing him execute it in a game, knowing that the pressure is going to get there, man, hands down, that backing to me for the Packers stuck out on film.

Back-to-back weeks, last week they allowed 246 yards to the Detroit Lions,

fewer than 250 yards to the

Washington Commanders.

That's back-to-back weeks.

That's the first two games of the season since 1995.

Micah Parsons generated a team high eight pressures.

He had a half a sack on 37 pass rush attempts in his second game with the Packers.

Six of Parsons' pressures came in the second half.

Look, he's an edge guy.

You know, and I understand they got a lot of edge guys.

And so you're going to have sometimes guys going to have to line up inside and it's all congested in there, but he needs to be in space.

Yeah.

So he can use that quickness.

He can use that ability to move and bend those edges.

I saw the thing that was showing, kind of showing like DT at a 40-degree angle, Michael Parsons at a 42-degree angle.

Both can bend the edges.

But I think that's the

thing is, Ocho, you're right.

That back end looked really good.

But when you get that kind of push up front, you ain't got to hold up long.

You ain't got to hold up long.

Kraft had an unbelievable job at the tight end position.

He had 124 yards, the most since Richard Rogers in week 13, 2015 against Detroit uh that was the miracle at Mot in Motown the Hail Mary game Mojo they've been losing the whole game and then Aaron Rodgers rolls and he Richard Rodgers uh plus the Hail Mary but I defensively there there's nothing not to like look he was Jordan love he was late on one throw he should have touched another touchdown early in the ball game he's just late oh

to matthew golden the one to matthew golden that was easy six and it allowed the db to recover yep i don't know why he put i don't know why he put that much air, but it's okay.

He looked like he tried to touch it instead of just let it go.

Just let it go.

Ain't nobody over there, bro.

Just go ahead and throw that.

And then he had another when he put too much on it because Golden had split the seams.

Yep.

And he probably had, probably, he probably should have used a little

shorter club.

He had too much club.

You know what?

Just in comparison,

Matthew Golden runs a 4-4, right?

And I look at that play.

I look at that play.

And this is where I say where I think Tyreek Hill is so special.

I didn't mean to bring up Tyreek, but a play like that, a ball like that, where Tyreek is in that position, where he split that safety in that corner, he makes that catch.

Yeah, but that's the difference between, I mean, people run up under that ball.

But that's the difference between 4-2 and 4-4, though.

Yeah, you're right.

He's going to run up under that.

But there's a good chance

if he hitches, Tyreek is going to outrun it.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

So the thing is, maybe in a situation like that, you can't, you know, you can't take the hit.

You just got to basically, when you just let it go.

Yeah.

Because Tyree, with a free release?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

Nah.

I mean, because the thing is,

you got to make Tyree drop step.

You got to make him do something.

You can't just let the man have a free release like he run 100 meters.

Just free, go.

He gone.

Boy,

you really asking for trouble.

Yeah.

But you had to be really impressed with the Packers.

Look, I'm not overly concerned against Washington.

That was a buzz, so that was a short week.

And that's no excuse.

But if you can't run the football against a team that can generate that kind of pressure, you're going to be in for a long night because

you got to give them something else to think about, Ocho.

Right now, they're not thinking about anything.

They're not running about Eckler.

They're not worrying about Merritt, Kotsky Merritt.

They're not worried about any of those guys because what you've shown is that you can't run the football against our front four.

So now

we'll worry about the running.

Hey, y'all handle that.

Running a linebacker, y'all handle that.

We're going hunting.

Yeah.

They did a great job of keeping Jaden Daniels in the pocket.

They did a great job of when he escaped the pocket because they got guys that can run.

They got guys that can hunt.

And the coach turned him loose.

Hey,

these dogs going hunting.

And they did a great job of tracking Jaden Daniels tonight.

He's 24, 42, 200 yards, two touchdowns.

He didn't turn it over, but he was under constant pressure.

Michael Parsons had eight pressures alone, yeah.

Sacked him four times, so they probably pressured him another, you know, probably 12, 13 times tonight.

That's exactly what I'm going to ask you.

Do you, do you, do you see the presence, the presence of Michael Parsons, how he

that defense?

Obviously, obviously, listen, they were really good, even if he wasn't there, but his addition to that and speeding up everything else for whoever they're playing offensively, being destructive, throwing off the timing, helping that back in where the DVs right now.

But

like

Hall of Famous out there now.

Yeah.

Looking like Hall of Famous, where it seems as if they're making all the plays.

But if you don't understand the game, you're looking from the outside, looking in, you'll be like, oh my goodness, boy, these boys back there is all world.

All world.

You're right.

But you can do that, Ocho.

You look at the secondary when you had Reggie, when Reggie was in Philly.

You look at those guys, all those guys that were, because you had Reggie, you had Clyde Simmons, you had

Jake Rusty Soul, Jerome Brown.

Yeah, look at what you had.

So, EA and them back there, they didn't have to hold up long, no, they didn't have to hold up long, yeah.

So, the ball is gonna come out quick.

You got Reggie, you got Reggie on one side, you got Jay, you got Clyde on another side, you got Jay Boogie.

Who Eric Allen was on one side, right?

Yeah, you remember who was on the other side, Eric Allen, or do you remember?

It was uh, the defense.

Let me see if I can remember.

They were uh Reggie, Clyde, jerome brown

by i think byron evans seth joyner ea muddy waters

i don't i can't off the top of my head ocho i can't i can't remember at all all i can see eric allen with that 21 on clear as day yeah clear as day

i can't remember who was on the other side uh ocho yeah

But

they had a very good defense.

Man, you look, EA,

he was in New Orleans also.

Played in New Orleans.

You talk about on the, it must be on the back end because I don't remember that.

I know you don't.

Nah, he finished up, if I'm not mistaken, I think he finished up with the Raiders.

You remember him with the Raiders?

I remember him with the Raiders.

I remember that.

And I definitely remember the Raiders.

I think he went from Philly to New Orleans.

New Orleans to the Raiders.

Okay.

Can you check that?

Eric Allen.

I think he went from Philly to New Orleans and then New Orleans to

New Orleans for Raiders.

Yeah.

And

if I'm not mistaken, he was

when they had

the Dome Patrol.

Right.

When they had Pats Williams, Ricky Jack.

uh uh vaughn johnson and they had sam mills the field of the field

middle linebacker Sam Mills.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam.

I think EA was there with them.

So he's always had a pass rush in front of him.

That's why he was sitting on everything.

He had the record before Deron Bland broke it with those six, with those five return touchdowns.

Right.

Because EA was sitting on everything.

But

they were loaded.

They were a very good team.

Now, he was an outstanding defensive back.

He had great skills.

He could take the ball.

He could take the ball away.

And, you know,

he had great fees he was small smallish and you know but he realized he didn't have to hold up long yeah but a lot of those guys had uh i think ricky jack had already gone if i'm not but sure i think uh swill might have still been there i think sam mills at that point in time had already gone to uh

carolina um so but they were they they had they had he had a He cut his teeth over in Philly.

That's where, you know, most of the people remember him from, but he had an outstanding career.

Jordan Love finished 9 of 15, 175 yards.

Both touchdowns came against the commanders, Blitz.

On throws of 10-plus air yards against the Blitz, Love was 6 of 8 for 144 yards and a touchdown.

His 14.5 air yards per attempt is a career high mark.

Ocho, did you like what you saw from Jordan Love?

Yeah, absolutely.

Because the whole point of Blitzing is to throw the timing off and get to you before you can get the ball out.

Jordan Love is doing exactly what veteran quarterbacks do and understand, okay, based on what I see, based on tendencies, based on watching film, I already know what's coming.

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And when a quarterback knows it ahead of time, you get the kind of night you got from him when it comes to passing the ball when they're blitzing.

I'm not sure what percentage that the commander did blitz, but I guarantee you, 98% of the time that they did, Jordan Love completed that pass.

Yeah, well, you're right, Ocho.

You try to throw the timing off, but those receivers are so quick.

Did you see that touchdown by Dobbs at the goal line?

Yes.

Hey,

I'm listening.

I'm not a defensive back, huh?

I'm not a defensive back, but I love defensive back play.

All they did was stick to the outside.

Why are you even going for the first move?

You got to have patience like Sally May.

Keep your heels on the goal line and don't go nowhere.

What you moving for?

He didn't even make a move.

All Dobbs did was stab outside and come in.

Because when you study Green Bay, what did Devontae Adams, what route did Devontae Adams catch so much?

But it got that fade stopper, that speed out.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

You're right.

Hey, how many times we don't see Devontae Adams run that two-yard out for a touchdown?

Yeah.

You better go for it.

Right, you're right.

Because here's the thing, Ocho.

If that man run that speed out and you're not close, they're like, bro, what you waiting on?

why you playing in the c man right well that's a really that's a really hard and that's why i say ocho if you up there

if you if you up there ocho are you gonna press or not because if you up in a press position you got to get your hands on the guy you let a guy free release you up there you let a guy free release you beat yeah especially down there because you get ocho the man ain't got but two three yards go for a touchdown so he completed he in the end zone you're right you're right i'm listening i i never understood what dbs there's one db i that I've seen that's been able to do it because he's so disciplined.

And his pattern of movement is so good where he can be up and press and not touch you at all because he can stay in front of you the whole time.

And that's Denzel Ward.

Obviously, you have other players that are good that do it a little differently, but they love to use their hands to maintain their leverage

throughout the route and stay on top of you.

But

listen, if you're going to get up there and press, put your hands on him and throw the timing off.

Right.

But put your hands, because it throws the timing off right away.

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Yep.

We got a very special guest joining us tonight, Packers Hall of Famer.

He received his Hall of Fame ring tonight.

My brother, we became the first two brothers to be inducted in the Pro Football Hall of Fame.

And he takes a few moments out of his time.

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I mean, I think that's him.

I mean,

I can't see a whole lot, but I think that's him.

I mean,

your phone muted.

Your phone.

Can somebody tell Jamie that his phone is muted?

He's gonna get it.

He's working on it.

He's working on it.

He's working on it.

No, it just.

See, he likes me.

He can't work.

He can't work technology either.

No, we can't hear you, bro.

All right, how about now?

Yeah.

Yeah.

There you go.

Oh, grab my jacket, please.

How about now?

Yeah, we now.

Yeah.

Oh, you.

Oh, you just got out of the car.

So you at the hotel now?

Yeah,

I just got to the hotel.

Yeah.

Are you in Green Bay or you in Appleton?

I'm in Green Bay, bro.

I just left the game.

Oh, okay.

I just left the game.

So you get your ring.

So now this is the final piece.

You got the call

when we

came down to Atlanta.

You get fitted.

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The Super Bowl.

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And then all the build up to it.

You get

the ceremony, the induction in August.

And now this is the final piece in front of those stands that you cut your teeth and you made a name and you made the Sharp family the first sharp and you made us proud so now after you've had all this opportunity you had the better parts of seven months to absorb this what does this moment finally mean has it finally hit you now

really you know the thing is it's one of those things just a line of uh what has to happen kind of thing you know how you know how it goes we we went through this we went through this when you went through it you know we we went through

the whole we went through the whole you know this is what we have have to do.

This is where you have to be.

This is what you're going to get.

So it's just another step in the process, man.

And I just look at it that way.

I don't look at it as,

you know, my career ended in 1994.

You know, my football was done in 1994.

And this is just an extenuation of,

you know, being able to come back and stand in front of the fans that I played in front of to let them know that I appreciate them.

You know, to get a ring that is 10 times too big to wear every day

to do anything with.

But, you know, it was a good time.

I got Suzanne some here.

They're right there.

There they go, right there.

There they are.

Hey, Suze.

Hey, there they go.

Hold on.

Is that Susan or the Vermin?

Hey, the Vermin right here.

There she goes right here.

They got the Vermin right there.

Hey, Verm.

Yeah, man.

Hey, Suze.

Yeah, but see, we were doing, you know, it was was good we we got a chance to come back and do that and uh and just be here so i mean you gotta well think about it man i don't know what when was the last time susan was back in green bay uh

no i was i grew up

2004

yeah 2004.

yeah

204.

yeah so

it's been a while

and you hadn't been back since what you went to the ring you went to the ring of honor right?

So you've only been back a couple of times.

I hosted the first

show for NFL Network after they won the Super Bowl in

2010.

I can't remember.

Oh, nine or 10.

Okay, so I came back when they played the, they had the first game on Thursday night, and I was at NFL Network then.

So I hosted then.

Yeah.

So, yeah, since 2011, I came back for

your your podcast.

The first time I've been back since 2011.

Wow.

We can tell you just got on the elevator, too.

Yeah, I know.

We got eyes everywhere.

We all hear your conversation.

And that's the whole point.

The point is, bro, hey, game's over, festivities over, bro.

It's time to go to bed now.

We on our way back up to the room.

Whether y'all leave or y'all leave first thing in the morning?

Because y'all got to go from

y'all fly direct or you got to go to Chicago.

I got to go to Chicago.

Oh, okay.

But no, it was a great night, man.

We got a chance to enjoy

some friends we haven't seen in a while.

I got Perry,

Ron Hallstrom.

Of course, Hall of Family Leroy Butler was here.

Olympian Dan Jansen was here.

So it was a good time.

You know, it was a good time for

it was a good time for us, man.

So we enjoyed that.

We did that.

And now we're back at the room getting ready to get our stuff packed and get out of here.

I mean, what does it mean?

Because a lot of those people that were in attendance tonight, they didn't get an opportunity to personally see, some did, but not a lot of those people didn't get an opportunity to see your

see you personally, see your career.

What does it mean to you?

What did it feel like to have 70,000 fans?

They love their Packer player.

80,000 fans.

80,000

to be able to let them know that, you know, I know that I'm playing.

What I said tonight, Shan, I got to say in front of

grands and great grands.

So it was the, it was, it was pretty cool to be able to talk to grands and great grands about what it meant for me to be, you know, for, I understood, you know, because, and you know, when I first got to Green Bay, they weren't very good.

No, they were not.

And when I left Green Bay, they were a lot better.

And

the wonderful thing about our fans is they're not fair weather, bro.

Whether it's minus 300 degrees or if it's 86, they show up.

Oh, show.

They show up.

I mean, oh, show.

My brother's first NFL game, I thought I'd killed him because he froze to death.

That's how cold it was.

And so, but the thing was, is he was there, the fans were there also.

So it was, it's tremendous to be able to let them know.

Because, you know, when I left the game,

the fans didn't know I wasn't coming back.

Right.

They didn't know.

You know, all they knew was, is, oh, he had a neck injury.

He didn't get to play in the two playoff games.

And so he is, you know,

God, we're building something.

They didn't know that that was my last game.

Right.

They had no idea.

So, and

I don't know if you guys got a chance to say

goodbye.

And, you know, I got a chance to say hello because I was the seventh pick in the first round.

Right.

But I never got a chance to say goodbye.

Not that I needed one, but, you know, if you say hello, you really kind of feel like you want a chance to say goodbye.

And to dine, I got a chance to do that.

That's awesome.

No, i retired you remember in 04 you know cbs gave me the call and they they asked me to sit at the table and i realized and you know you're like look man um

you get too old to play football you don't get too old to talk and there's no guarantee that this position will be available next year when you really want to retire because you want to go back and get year 15.

There's nothing you can do that's going to change people's perception of you.

You got the championships.

You got all the records.

Hey,

go ahead and take this job.

And it was an easy decision for me.

Now I just called Mike and said, Mike, I appreciate the opportunity.

I would really love to come back.

But this opportunity that I have that's before me right now is just too good to pass up.

I had a thing.

I got my teammates came back and I was like, hey, thank you guys for everything.

But

A-4 out the door.

You're right.

Yeah.

And that's it.

But, you know, when you play,

We're all at different stages or parts or reasons for playing this game.

I played football because I wanted to.

You know, I played football to impress my brother.

And when it was over for me, and I said this to the media tonight, the only two people that were happier that my career ended were the two doctors that told me I should never play again.

I was okay with my career ending.

I was okay with moving on.

I was okay with using my college degree to be able to

see what was out there, what was next.

I was looking forward to what was, I was looking forward to what was next.

And so being able to do that, man, I was happy about being able to do next.

I was really prepared for being able to do next.

And I was in a neck brace and didn't know what was going to be next.

I didn't know what was going to be next.

Right.

So, man, congratulations, man.

Thanks for taking time out.

I know you got a lot going on.

I know you got to get packed and you ready to get up out of there.

No, man, no.

Hey, hey, hey, I want to do

one thing

for your...

Is she over here?

Yeah, don't worry.

Oh, she's not there yet?

She should be.

Hold on, man, because I want to introduce your audience.

You know how I am, man.

I don't do...

I don't do, what's the word I'm looking for?

I don't do recognition very well.

I don't.

i never have

um i'm more of a behind the scenes somebody else gets the recognition but i want to i i would love the opportunity if you will allow me two minutes if she's here i want to introduce you to the architect on why i came back to green bay i have not been on lambos field since the day i stood on that field watching the playoff game, the last playoff game.

So I have not been back, but I want to see if she, oh, she's here.

Hold on, she's here.

Hold on.

Okay.

So, bro, bro, this is Kathy.

Hey, she is.

I met her at the Hall of Fame.

I would not, I would, I would not be here if it wasn't for her.

You know me, bro.

I'm not nostalgic.

I'm not that kind of guy that needs my ego stroked or.

oh well let me let me come back and be recognized but the reason i came back to green bay on this night to get my ring because i told the hall of famer to just send it to the house the reason i came back is for her because she has been she's wonderful at what she does

she is very passionate about what she does and

you know what she got me through this she said she would

she was the reason that the party went so well the reason the party went so well Jen, you were there.

You know what that looked like and how that was.

This is Kathy.

she made this work and i i just want to give her her flowers while i can in front of your audience thank you ocho and let her know that i really appreciate her she's a member of the family now so we can talk to her any way we want because she's a member of the family

well kathy thank you she's the reason i came back and it was a good night we had a good time We're going to have one more drink and we're going to bed.

All right.

Kathy, thank you for the great job that you did at the Hall of Fame.

It was unbelievable.

I speak for everybody that was in attendance, especially my family.

It was very well put together.

Thank you for handling everything to get him and the family to and from Lambeau to receive his ring.

I personally can't thank you enough.

But on behalf of the Sharp family, thank you for all you've done for my brother and this whole entire life.

Thank you.

Thank you.

It's our pleasure.

Really?

All right, man.

All right, man.

Y'all lay it down like y'all supposed to.

We'll talk later.

Thank you.

All right, bro.

All right.

Y'all,

You put me on the spot.

I want some podcasts.

I know he does a

lot.

Man, log off.

I know he doesn't.

My brother's going to have a fourth surgery on his eye, his right eye.

He had a...

He found out he had a detached retina and he almost lost the eye.

And he's had several surgeries on the eye trying to get it corrected.

And this is one of the reasons that they had it so early.

He drove to Canton

and

he really didn't want to come because the pressure, the doctor says, you know, you keep risking it going up into that pressurized situation with the eye.

So he's going to have his fourth surgery on his eye later this month.

And hopefully they get it corrected.

And it's a process that he has to spend about 14 hours a day face down

for six weeks.

He has to sleep in that position.

So he bought one of those cradle tables like a massage therapist.

So he spends the bulk of his day face down.

It might be more than that.

I think it's somewhere between 14 and 20 hours a day face down for six weeks.

And so

I want to take the time now to hopefully that thing goes well this time and we won't have to have another surgery on the eye and he gets to keep the eye.

So

Nightcap family, say a prayer for him as he's about to

go through another surgery.

And hopefully this time

they get it corrected.

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All right, Ocho, but now we get back to our normally scheduled program.

And nearly a year after knocking Derrick Henry to the ground with a big hit, Browns Grant Delpit delivered another shot at Henry.

Asked Thursday, how hard is it to bring a 6'3 ⁇ , 250-pound Derrick Henry down?

Delpit quickly answered, not hard.

Henry responded to Del Pitt later that day saying he was aware of Delpitt's comment.

He had a quote.

We'll see on Sunday.

Yeah, I like it.

I like Del Pitt coming out publicly like that.

Obviously, you look at so many players that

play against the Ravens, that played against the Titan when Derrick Henry was there, that turned away from contact, that shied away from contact, that chose to allow him to run by him, and they rather attack them from the side and make a business decision instead of attacking them head on.

Delpit is one of the few.

I mean, there might be maybe one or maybe one or two other safeties that really just don't care, they don't care nothing about their bodies, and they're going to go in there and stick their face in there and it's man on man.

It's Manio

on Imano.

Delpit kind of setting the tone for the defense.

Coming out with comments like that, obviously giving the Ravens bullets to board material, but them having the personnel to be able to back that up,

now they got to do just that.

They got to back it it up catch his ass going left and right catch them going east and west once you allow him to get north going north you already know what time it is but that's the problem you already know what time it is you do realize now derrick henry gonna go out of his way to see if you bought that

you know what i'm saying don't you oh yeah you know what you know he's gonna go out of his way

and we're gonna see we're going to see if it's not as hard as you said it is.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Because there ain't a whole lot of safeties that's looking to tackle Derrick Henry head on, especially if he knows you coming.

See, it's easy to sneak up on somebody or you hit somebody, you know, he's trying to stiff arm somebody and you catch him.

Now he knows.

Oh, Grant.

What's the number, y'all?

Okay.

Don't worry about it.

Don't worry about it.

I got it.

Listen.

I got it.

I'll take it from here.

I like it.

Hey, whoever.

Hey, don't block him.

Zay.

Don't worry about him.

Hey, get somebody else.

Hey, you take Denzel Ward because I don't want him to try to have it to chase me down.

Right, I'll take care of the safety.

Because you know, Ocho, in a situation like that, a lot of times

we can't block everybody.

There's one person free, it's kind of like the punt returner.

Punt returner, we're gonna have everybody else blocked up.

You got the punter,

you gotta block him.

I take everything else, I take everything else.

Then everybody say, Hey,

don't even worry about Greg Delpin.

I got that.

I like it.

But look, this is an old look,

there is no love lost between these two teams.

No,

Baltimore is seething.

They know they let a gate, but so is Cleveland.

Cleveland say, we had the Bengals dad to right.

We missed a PAT LFL goal.

Yeah.

Lamar Jackson and that Baltimore Ravens said, hold on, wait a minute.

Man, we had a 15-point lead under four minutes to go.

Oh, we're about to go ahead and try to do something bad to y'all.

Miles Garrett said, y'all ain't about to do nothing bad to nobody.

Not if I got something to say about it.

But I tell you what, number 77 better do a better job than what he did against in Buffalo.

Hey, that was that was bad, huh?

That was bad.

That was bad.

He looked like he was lost on some place.

Hell, I thought he was out there doing the maca

just because he didn't have anybody in front of him.

Obviously, if nobody's in front of you, the closest man to you, help your partner out.

Look to your right, help your partner out.

He's going, he's sitting there turning in circles, not touching nobody.

Nope.

Like, what are we doing?

Head up,

inside, most dangerous man.

That's how we block.

Normally to your inside, which is normal.

You got a guy head up?

That's you.

You got a guy inside out?

That's you.

Other than that, if ain't nobody there, you take the most dangerous man.

Like you said, Ocho.

Hey, help somebody out.

Yeah, absolutely.

You know what I do like too from Grant on?

We don't get this enough.

We don't get this enough in today's NFL.

We don't get players coming out and not saying anything malicious, but posing a competitive challenge to their opponent.

I like it because now for me, there are a lot of games that's being played at one o'clock, huh?

There are a lot of games that are going to be being played at one o'clock.

But you know which one I want to tune into?

Simply because of the back and forth between those two, I want to see the Browns and I want to see the Ravens because I want to see what's going to happen when the Ravens are on offense and they have to run the ball.

And is Grant Delphi going to come to the party

when the door is open?

That's all I want to see.

That's all I want to see.

Amongst the other things that those teams have to offer offensively and defensively everybody's gonna be watching 22

versus what what number Del Pitt wear?

He wear one got no Greg Newsome zero, right?

Whatever it is, I want to see.

I can't wait.

I can't.

I'm gonna be front and center.

Matter of fact, I'm gonna be at the sports book, and I'm gonna tell him in the sports book, I want the Ravens and Browns game on the big screen.

I want it on the big screen.

He's nine.

Oh, nine.

Okay, okay, okay, okay.

Yeah, yeah.

My thing is, Ocho, is like, look, I don't have a guy.

Because here's the thing, there are no ramifications.

Because if he loses, they're going to say, well, what did you want him to say?

No, I wanted you to do what you said you was going to do.

Yes, sir.

Dog, don't talk about, oh, it was a game, and you know, hey, I ain't backing out.

No, no, no, no, no.

You said that man ain't hard to tackle.

Now, I'm going to need you to drop some lumber.

I'm needing you to drop anchor and make Derrick Henry feel you.

Yeah.

I ain't talking about no side and jumping on his back and the whole, but no, you said he's not hard to tackle.

I want to see if he's not.

I don't want to see.

I ain't talking about Miles Gary.

I'm not talking about nobody else.

I'm talking about you.

You said that.

So now you wrote checks.

Everybody else got a cash.

Now, I don't know how much money y'all got as a defense in this account, but all I know is that you wrote a check that y'all ass gonna have to cash.

Yeah, I like it.

I like it.

That's all I know.

And most of of the time, when a player comes out and speaks out, as you look at, you look at me, most of the time from an offensive player, when I did all that talking for 11, 12 years, however long I played, I knew one thing.

Not only do I have to back it up, but I put pressure on myself.

I took the pressure off the rest of my teammates.

So all they had to do is go out there and do their job because I had 10 other people trying to knock my head off.

Absolutely.

I don't play on the defensive side of the ball.

Now, if you play on defense and you come out and you're talking like that, oh, you ain't got no choice but to show up because now all eyes are on you.

Right.

All the pressure is on you.

Now you got to fulfill everything you said.

Man, right about that.

Hey, I can't wait.

We know there's no love loss between these two teams.

You know, they're in the same division.

They've been in the same division.

Like I said, the Ravens were the old Browns.

Now the Browns have their own team that just goes to show you what.

Because think about it now.

The NFL made Art Model leave the Cleveland Brown Colors

and the records in Cleveland.

No other team in the history of moving has ever had to do that.

The Cardinals did not leave in St.

Louis.

They took them.

The Raiders moved from Oakland to LA, LA, back to Oakland, Oakland,

to Vegas.

They're still silver and black, and they still got their records.

The Rams have moved.

They were in St.

Louis.

So were the Cardinals.

Nobody,

even the Houston, the Houston Orlers, they moved to Tennessee.

They didn't have to leave that.

The Colts were in Baltimore.

They left in 1984 in the middle of the night.

They didn't tell anybody.

Only Art Model had to leave his colors and the records, and they got a new team.

Yeah.

So there's no love loss, especially between the city and Mr.

Model, but a lot of the people that was there during that process, the Ravens have been in Baltimore now since 1996.

Since 1996, so damn near 30 years.

Well, it's 30 years.

What's the hostility for?

Right.

Look,

I played, you know, look, obviously I played two years with the Ravens and we played the Browns.

we beat them beat the hell out of them the first two years they beat us uh uh the second year there but i'm gonna see i'm with you i'm gonna make sure i'm watching you know i'm gonna make sure i have my box on and have my look my uh uh

my uh

my computer because i'm gonna be watching because i want to see now you best believe now

I'm gonna say, oh, Joe.

I saw somebody with an alligator, alligator mouth with a hummingbird ass because somebody was doing a lot of talking.

Yeah.

And he didn't have a lot of bricks in his back pocket.

So we gonna see this Ocho.

Hey, let's start.

They got some great games on Sunday.

They got the Eagles.

We got the Super Bowl rematch.

Super Bowl rematch.

But I'm going to play very close attention to that game.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Listen, for me, the number one game to watch for me, despite the Super Bowl rematch, is the Ravens and the Browns, simply because of the trash talk and the exchange of trash talk.

If the goddamn Chiefs happen to start 0-2, well, hey, it might be time to hit the panic button.

But again, if you have 15 at the helm, what you do in September really doesn't matter because by the time you get to the back end of the season, when it matters most, the Chiefs are going to be in the race.

So regardless of who wins this early Super Bowl rematch in week two,

it ain't really meaning nothing.

So we're going to find out.

Cleveland doing a lot of talking.

We're going to find out if they're going to be able to back it up.

The question, also, Ocho, the Ravens, what if they fall to 0-2?

Oh, well, hey,

I think the Ravens fall in the 0-2 and the Chiefs fall in the 0-2.

There's no reason to hit the panic button, huh?

There's no reason.

Because who are the quarterbacks?

Patrick Mahomes.

Who's the quarterback?

Lamar Jackson.

That's a hole that they can dig themselves out of.

But also, you got to look at themselves out of.

Look at the quarterbacks in the division with them.

Joe Burrow and Aaron Rodgers.

That's not the normal cast of characters that you normally see with a team.

Because, okay, now

go to Patrick Mahomes' division.

You got Justin Herbert.

You got Bo Nicks.

So you got guys now

that can get great quarterback play.

So this notion that, oh, it's a no-brainer.

No, no, no.

Now, mind you, you've already lost to the Chiefs.

I mean, to the Chargers.

Yes.

And next week, you're on the road to the Giants.

So it's not like the Chiefs got an easy schedule.

Because when you win the division,

you got the teams that you're going to play outside of it.

You got your division cross matchups.

Maybe it's,

I think Kansas City might play the NFC East or something like that.

But then you also get division winners from other divisions.

So

ain't no cupcakes.

Nah, no.

That's one thing about the NFL.

They make you earn it year after year.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, Choe, after Sunday's loss to the commanders, Malik neighbors explained a fiery sideline exchange with head coach Brian Dayball as an attempt to boost people up because he felt like the team's energy was not where it needed to be.

I was trying to get the offense going.

I was trying to tell people, get rolling.

The lights were on.

The game was on.

It's time to play.

I feel like we just got pushed over, and everybody was just talking about attitude and stuff like that.

It's just, I got that MBF

nasty B-face.

You know what I'm saying?

That's just what it is.

That's just my face.

I don't know

what all you talk to me about, talk to me.

I look the same way every time.

I don't know.

It's just how I am.

But I guess I have to smile more.

He said that he's spoken to Coach Dayball about just the sideline demeanor since the game and knows he has to be more conscious of it in the future because of how many eyes are on him during the game.

Most definitely.

You know, they will misconstrue that.

They will misconstrue your passion

at that position, especially playing receiver.

Now,

when you have a quarterback that does the same things like that, and he shows that passion and enthusiasm for the game to get his teammates going, and

you're having confrontation and what they think is confrontation from the outside looking in, and it's just you reacting to

the low,

what's the word, the low excitement of your team.

And trying to get everybody going,

trying to get the fellas to get to going when things aren't going well.

Maybe things are going well not going well offensively or things aren't going well defensively and hyping everybody up around you sometimes it works but when you're when you're a skilled position it is is it's frowned upon it's brought you have to carry yourself a certain way because the mannerisms in what you do they call it disgruntled if a quarterback does it they call it passion

it's the same act but they word it differently depending on who you are and what position you do play yeah you have to be cautious and especially playing in that goddamn New York.

Correct.

Got to be they get labeled, you get labeled this grown.

You get labeled, they use the term malcontent.

They use, you know what I'm saying, you're a diva.

Yeah.

Well, why can't I have passion?

Why can't I want to win?

Right.

Oh, I'm selfish.

Right.

Right.

I mean, listen, we've seen.

One man passion is another man's selfishness.

It's another man's diva.

The funny thing about it is we've seen Tom Brady do it on the sideline.

I'm talking about go the hell off.

Yes.

We've seen a lot of quarterbacks do it.

Yeah, I'm not.

We've seen Peyton Manning do it.

I mean, go the hell off.

I'm talking about screaming at his offensive lineman.

Remember that clip, chat?

If y'all remember the clip with Jeff Saturday and Peyton Manning going at it on the side?

Oh, my goodness.

That happens all the time.

It happens all the time.

But when Dez Bryan does it, oh, it's an issue.

Oh, it's a problem.

When

Steve Smith does it, it's a problem.

When Team does it, it was a problem.

But anytime it's a quarterback that does the exact same thing in a passionate manner,

it's definitively described different.

It's always been that way.

Always.

And it always will.

So we're not going to change it by discussing it here tonight.

People are going to look at it one way.

It all depends on who's doing it.

So.

That's where we are on that.

One thing that Ben Johnson became known for as an offensive coordinator in Detroit was the trick plays.

But Dan Campbell said trick plays are the least of his concern as he gets ready for Johnson's offense.

You practice one or two things, you do every uh for every opponent, but I don't really care about trick plays.

Let's just handle the meat and potatoes of an offense and a defense and uh what we think they're gonna hang their hat on.

Let's stop that first, let's worry about that.

Let's make sure we're all on point and we'll handle the other stuff.

They may hit us with one, that's that's all right, that happens.

Get back to the huddle, let's get on to the next play.

Ocho,

you give the bears an up a chance to beat Detroit in Detroit?

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

I think

they have a chance in general simply because Ben Johnson knows the Lions very well.

He knows the deficiencies in which they have defensively.

He knows what he can attack and what he can attack.

He knows what plays the call to play to the strengths of Caleb Williams, and he knows Caleb Williams' weaknesses as well.

Again, collectively as a team offensively, they're going to have to play well.

They're going to have to play well, And Caleb has to make all the right decisions when it comes to throwing the football.

He got to make all the right decisions and be a little bit more accurate, huh?

Because you're not going to get very many chances.

The chances that you do have, you have to maximize on all opportunities.

We have opportunity for big catches, big plays, and touchdowns.

You do.

And he let one slip.

He had DJ Moore, I think, and he overshot him.

He should have put that ball in there because they kind of blew the coverage and he kind of sailed it on him.

And that's what you're saying.

When you get opportunities like that, when you get opportunity, when someone makes a mistake,

you got to make them pay.

Because guess what happens?

If a guy misses a block, if there's an unblocked defensive lineman, he's going to hit your quarterback in the back and he's going to make him fumble the ball.

Yes, sir.

So you've got to make them pay the ultimate price when they make a mistake.

You've got to hit your head on the goalpost.

You can't say, damn, man, I missed that up.

No, you can't miss that because they're not going to miss that opportunity.

I guarantee you, they get a free rusher, they're going to make your quarterback turn it over.

And it is really, that's the gist of it.

And you mess around and make a mistake on the other side of the ball.

They're going to make you pay for it.

So you need to make guys pay for the mistakes that they make.

So if they don't have, if you have an unblocked lineman,

take the ball away.

If they blow an assignment and the safety in the corner get mixed up about who was supposed to roll,

you've got to make them pay.

Yes.

That's what you got to do.

And I don't think the Bears did that because they had some opportunities the other night against Minnesota and Caleb Williams didn't make them pay.

But when they got their opportunities, Minnesota made them pay.

And so that's what has to happen this week on the road.

You're playing in a hostile environment.

Yeah, they're familiar with each other.

Obviously, Dan Campbell was the head coach.

So he knows his tendency.

He knows Ben Johnson's tendencies.

Now, the thing is, the D coordinator, now, I don't know, he might have been brought up because obviously AG is the head coach of the Jets.

Yeah.

But they kind of know, they kind of know what Ben likes to run.

Because guess what?

In training camp, you script.

Okay,

I want to see this defense against this formation.

I want to see this formation against this defense.

Excuse me.

So you set plays up.

You're familiar with each other, even though the DC wasn't in the DC role when Ben was there.

So, but

look, Caleb is on the clock.

Caleb has to play better.

Because, guess what?

They're not going to blame Ben Johnson.

No, it's going to the quarterback.

And listen,

there was a graphic.

I'm not sure what the graphic

was, but in their first two seasons, well, and then you look at the numbers in comparison when Mitch Trubisky was there and Caleb Williams.

They look very similar.

They look very similar.

They do.

They look very similar.

So

I'm excited for that game.

I think the winner in this game is whichever team could get the other to be one-dimensional.

The Bears got to be able to run the ball to be able to execute what they want to do offensively.

And the same thing goes for the Lions.

The Lions, in their first game, they weren't really able to establish the run like they normally would with Montgomery and Gibbs.

So this is the game where they need to establish a run so it can open up their offense.

So their offensive play call that can be able to do more and open up the playbook.

Yeah.

You're right.

They're going to, I mean, both teams, because Green Bay did a great job of shutting down the run.

And then guess what?

Putting pressure on Jerry Goff.

Yeah.

That's what the Bears are going to try to do.

Bears are going to try to put pressure on Goff because he's not mobile.

And he's not a guy that really makes plays outside of the pocket.

He makes plays on script.

Great play call.

He can execute it.

But now when you got to get a script,

rolling out of the pocket, throwing on the move,

that's not what he's good at.

And so the Bears are going to try to make him uncomfortable.

Dennis Allen has done a great job.

He's one of the better defensive coordinators in this league.

And so

we're going to find out.

Somebody's going to 0-2.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No matter what.

No matter AL.

Somebody's going to 0-2.

Just like Saturday, huh?

Just like Saturday, both fighters, Canelo and Bud, got a zero.

Somebody's going to have an AL.

We don't know who, but who's L.

Canela already got one lost.

Remember, he lost two.

I mean, okay, my bad, but he has two, actually.

Who's lost this?

He lost to Mayweather and Bovo.

Okay, yeah, yeah.

I don't know.

I just drew a a blank trying to do the comparison.

Yeah.

These two teams.

But we're going to find out.

Caleb just got to make the plays.

But I think the biggest thing for Caleb is that,

is he going to be a guy that makes, like, make plays from the pocket?

Because he seems to like, he's better outside of the pocket, making plays on the move.

Yeah.

And it's hard to win a championship like that.

Most guys, look, that's auxiliary.

Your meat and potatoes need to be throwing the ball from the pocket.

He can do both though, huh?

He can do both.

He can do both.

Well, we're going to find out.

We're going to find out.

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