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Brian Dayball, named Jackson Dart, QB1 for the rest of the season.

Here's what Dayball had to say earlier today on the decision.

So in terms of the quarterback situation, I met both with Russ yesterday and Jackson privately.

And Russ was nothing but a pro, which I would expect him to be.

It's my decision, going with Jackson.

We're going to get him ready to play.

this week and the remainder of the season.

He's going to do everything he can.

Russ will be the backup.

The conversations that I've had with these young men will be private.

The details will be private.

All I can tell you is we're going with Jackson, and we're getting ready to play.

So I'm not going to add too much to it.

Those are private conversations.

It's my decision, and we're going with Jackson.

Ocho, are we going to go ahead and hit Russ's?

Okay.

Okay, here's what Russ had to say about the demotion.

Yeah, yeah.

Let me hear that.

Let me hear that.

Let me hear my dog.

Let me hear my dog.

I think that for me, just staying ready, you know, knowing what I'm capable of.

Like I said, life is about response.

And, you know, I can control two things, and that's my attitude and my gratitude.

And,

you know, I think the other thing I can control is my work ethic and my preparation to be ready when my name's called again because I know what I can do and I know

you know I know I'm gonna do it again.

You know, so that's that's what I'm excited about.

Now, Chad,

ain't ain't gonna rage, bait.

I ain't gonna do no kind of baiting.

But when I told you guys what was gonna happen, you don't know what you're talking about.

They got even my guy, even my co-host, the man been with me for two years.

We've been through thick and thin.

I said, oh, Joe, I said, look at the way the man playing.

Now, I'm telling you what's going to happen.

I say over under eight weeks.

I said, Russ is going to start.

Jackson Dart is going to be the backup.

And then James will be the third string quarterback.

Nah, nah, nah.

Everybody was agreeing with you, Ocho.

I said, Ocho, I can see the way this thing playing out because they drafted this guy.

And at the end of the day, the one guy that can save my job is not Russ.

It's not Jameis Winston.

Who's the one guy that can save Brian Dayball's job, Ocho?

Did you hear what you just said?

I love that you went that route.

Who's the one guy that can save my job?

The guy that I wanted, the guy that I drafted.

But you throw a rookie quarterback out there, right?

In the middle of the season, in the worst part of the season for them, schedule-wise, based on the opponents that they have to play, what happens when he doesn't play with?

But here's what happened when things don't play with what happened if you stick to your guns and you say, Once you make this decision,

you can't turn back.

He said he's the quarterback for the rest of the year for the rest of the year.

So you can't

absolutely correct.

And I wouldn't expect them to turn back and go back.

But here's the thing, though, Ocho.

Even if you lose too many games and Jackson Dark comes into the plays well, somebody else is going to be coaching him next year anyway.

So you've got

to go with him.

You was going, hey, listen, you was going right where I was going because I'm going to say, most of the time, I'm thinking as a quarterback, and listen, Jackson Dart, he showed flashes of brilliance, obviously, in the preseason.

But again, that's preseason.

You know how the defenses are very, very vanilla.

I think if he plays well enough, two things can happen.

Either you can play well or you can play bad.

If you play bad, the ball, you got it there.

If he plays well and shows what we already, what flashes what we've already seen, hell, you still might be fired.

fired true if jackson dart plays well i think he's gonna bide the ball sometimes might be right i personally now this is what we know i think sometimes we saw he got the job in new york because of how well he worked with josh allen but we see josh allen after he leaves still go wins an mvp okay right he go he has uh uh uh indiana jones Indiana Jones looks better away from New York than he did in New York.

So how much are we to deduce that

Dayball might not be the quarterback whisperer that we really thought he was?

Because Josh Allen is, is still playing at the MVP level.

He's the MVP front runner as we currently speak.

And you look at Indiana Jones, what he's doing

with the Colts.

So, he, I don't, like I said, I did, and Ocho, we talked about it Sunday.

I said, Ocho, if it's me, I'm going to start him against the Chargers at home.

I'm not going to start him on the road in a hostile environment.

I'm going to start him because at least it will buy them some time.

But I'm starting him Sunday.

I said, I'll start him Sunday against the Chargers and then I'm going to go from there.

But I knew this was going to come sooner rather than later just based on, look, and look, it's never just one guy's fault.

You can't make 22 changes, Ocho.

You can make, what's the one change that I think can significantly impact?

Pack the game.

They believe it's the quarterback position.

Now, the offensive line is going to have to play better.

Everybody's going to have to play better, pick up their plate.

You know, there are some mistakes that was made on Russ.

And I think, you know, him throwing the ball out of the end zone on fourth down didn't do himself any favors.

Throwing a couple of

picks.

But like you said, Ocho, it's not all on Russ.

But the quarterback, they get way too much credit and they take way too much blame.

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

I feel bad for Russ.

I feel bad for Russ, but this is what happens when you're towards the end of your career and you're going from team to team.

Russ is a great guy.

Russ is a great guy.

He's a professional.

He's the ultimate professional at the quarter of acquisition.

He's similar to what,

if you were to have a comparison to Russell Wilson, when it comes to a receiver that does everything the right way as a professional, I look at Lazarus Gerald.

Yep.

You know, when it comes to the right thing.

He says all the right things.

Does all the right things?

Yep.

Everything.

So for Russ, I feel bad for him.

God-fearing man one of god's children says all the right things does all the right things he works hard but obviously now it's in jackson dart team again i told you hunk i would be i would be uh in new york right so i'm in new york tonight so who you who you think i saw at the at the inner miami game and i told you i'm gonna see him balik neighbors

balik neighbors so we sit there have a conversation i noticed the cameras are watching so they can't read no lifts I was out flip my back and turn to me and ask the questions that the questions that's necessary.

You know, how you feeling?

Things not going well?

How you feel about not getting the ball?

What do they need to do to be able to get you the ball?

Putting you in different positions.

And obviously, we had a conversation, very lengthy conversation, about 30 minutes, you know, on the field, on the pitch before the game started.

And obviously, as any as any receiver feels and wants, I won't say anything verbatim.

Put me in positions to make the plays.

I'm going to make them.

That's it.

Put me, throw me the ball.

That's it.

It's pretty simple.

It's not

as complicated as possible.

Nah, that's it.

Put me in positions to make the

It was simple as that.

Simple as that.

Obviously, some other things, but I can't disclose those.

But that's it.

That's it.

All right.

And then he, of course, he says, it don't matter who playing quarterback.

Right.

That don't matter.

Not to me.

I'm him.

Yeah.

I got to go do my job.

But in order for me to do my job, I need people to put me in position to do my job.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Well, you say, Shadow, I need you, I need you to clean the gutters.

Well, I'm going to clean the gutter, but you damn better give me a ladder so I can get my ass up there.

You can't tell me to do something on Joe and didn't.

Look,

if I can win damn near any war, if you give me the machine, the artillery to go fight said war.

You want me to go compete, give me opportunities, put me in position so I can compete.

And that's all he's saying.

He's like, look, yeah, who wouldn't want to have a top five quarterback?

But we know there's 32 teams and every quarterback situation is different.

But

what makes those guys unique is that their coordinators put them in position.

Jerry got put in position.

Randy and Chris Carter, then the Marvin Harrison, then the Lamb Fitzgerald.

All the receivers that have these numbers, the Pro Bowls, the all-pros, got put in position.

No matter what you think about who's your offensive coordinator, Zeke Berkowski.

No, no, no.

Burkowski.

I mean, no, Hugh was for a couple of years, Rob.

Bob Bob Burkowski.

Bob Burkowski.

Yeah, Bob Burkowski.

So it doesn't matter.

It doesn't have to be a Kyle Shanahan or Sean McVay or this or that.

All you have to do is understand the pieces and move them appropriately.

Hey, you notice what you just said?

Understand the pieces that you have.

Understanding your players' strengths and weaknesses.

Positive coordinators not having egos and saying, this is my scheme.

This is why I'm going to run it.

I'm going to put you in position.

And you have to get open based on my philosophy, my ideologies, and my scheme.

The more creative, the more creative

coordinators,

whoever the goddamn lion score off the coordinator is, the Andy Reed, the Kyle Shannons, well, I know what he's good at.

I know what he's not good at.

So I'm not going to put him in that position for him to get exposed.

Everybody plays receiver, but everybody can't get open the same.

Some people, you got to stack them.

Some people, you got to move them.

Some people, you got to put them in the slot.

Some people, yeah, it is what it is.

See, our job is to be able to get away from.

Go ahead.

Make your point.

Unless you're one of those tier one receivers,

where all the, all the, what's the word I want to look?

All the things that the makeup of being a great receiver, they're really good at all of them.

Like

Jamar Chases.

I see Malik Neighbors as a tier one receiver where you don't need much creativity.

I can get what I need to get done off the muscle because I'm like that.

It's only a few of them too.

It ain't a handful.

Oh, it's only a handful.

And I'm not going to get into that because I don't want to piss nobody off.

But

I watch.

I think the thing is, Ocho, is that when you look at these guys, is that

my job was easy playing for Mike because I know Mike's aggressive.

So Mike's going to take chances.

We're unnecessarily like some coordinators are going to play it strictly by the book.

Mike going for the juggler.

And I know that he's going to call plays accordingly.

So now

I can do things accordingly.

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Like I said, quarterbacks get a lot of credit, far too much, to get far too much blame.

But I saw this coming.

I saw this coming when Jackson Dart played well, Ocho, and we had our final show after Jackson Dart played well.

I said over, under.

I really wanted to say the first quarter, the first four games.

I'm like, oh,

this kid playing.

This kid, unless Russ blows it out of the water,

there's no way he was going to be able to hold him off.

Well, hell, he blew it out.

He blew it out the water in the Dallas game.

After the Dallas game, I thought, oh, yeah, he just bought himself some time.

He bought himself at least three, four, five games.

And then after, who was that they just played in?

Oh,

I mean, it's the Chiefs.

It's the Chiefs.

But see, people don't look at the Chiefs.

If we looked at it, if the three years ago, Chiefs, I say, okay, you got a point, Ocho.

You got a point.

So the struggling, the struggling Chiefs don't count.

Hell no.

Hell no.

And I think the first game they played, the Commanders, look.

Right.

He bought, he basically he bought them.

They was hoping.

Let me tell you

looking at it from from my perspective and having my years of experience they were hoping russ buy them a little bit more time ocho i agree with you i don't they didn't want him to play this soon they was hoping though that they were hoping

russ could buy them some time

at least half a season give us half a season yeah

But at this current pace, Dayball wasn't going to have half a season.

They was going to end up hiring him.

He saw their rule.

It was just,

it wasn't going to be.

This is the thing, huh?

What I don't like.

Russell Wilson is not in a position to where he used to be where he can elevate a team, where he's a quarterback that can elevate the team,

regardless of the pieces that's around him.

Now he's in a position as a quarterback.

who's somewhat still adequate, but needs to play around him to elevate his play.

He needs words before Ocho,

he can get away with less than ideal situations.

He didn't need it.

He didn't need the Great Wall of China to be his offensive line.

He didn't need two, three, four wide receivers on the tight end.

He didn't need a light south,

even though he had that in Seattle.

Yeah.

But now he needs more.

As we get older, we need more.

I mean, look at

Tom, Wenton got more.

Peyton, Wenton got more.

Aaron Rodgers,

he needed more.

And that's what happens as we get older.

We need more help.

So now, where we can elevate everyone else, we need someone to help elevate us.

Yeah.

I think somewhat too, it's not, it's not fair.

You look at the situations in which he went to.

He went to Denver.

I'm not saying Denver, there's anything wrong with Denver, but I'm just saying it wasn't to me an ideal situation for him.

Similar to when Peyton Manning went to Denver, it was a different ball game.

Situation different when Tom Brady went to Tampa Bay, it was a different ballgame.

I think the situations that he went to weren't ideal for him to continue to have success the way we're used to seeing Russell Wilson have success.

I think sometimes, though, Joe, and this is what I'm saying, sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't.

See, Russ didn't realize.

What the hell?

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, you ain't just going, whoa.

Whoa, hold on right now.

Stay right there.

Uh-uh.

What are you cooking?

Hold on.

Hold on.

I'm using that.

Sometimes the devil you know is better than the one you don't.

See, Russ didn't realize how great of a situation he had in Seattle.

You see, he wanted more.

He wanted more control.

He wanted more input.

He wanted more of this and more of that.

He goes somewhere and

he didn't have what he had in Seattle.

He didn't realize how good he actually had it in Seattle.

Sometimes we don't realize just how good we have something until it's taken away from us.

And then you actually realize.

See, we take for granted the ability to hear and the ability to smell and the ability to taste or have all uses of our limbs.

Then when you don't have such, you realize like, damn,

you don't realize

how in the hell did I survive without a telephone this long?

How the hell did they?

Oh, I couldn't imagine not being able to watch TV.

I can't imagine not being able to go to a restaurant and just order whatever I want.

Right.

So he had that situation and he wanted more.

Now he got got, he got financial security

for a couple of generations.

Oh, yeah.

But at the end of the day, we haven't thought of, we haven't, Russ really haven't consistently looked like Seattle Russ since he left Seattle.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I mean,

we understand that we played the game, so we understand situations when you change when

you leave a team like that.

That's as great as they were offensively and especially defensively.

you you would hope and want ideal situations similar to what you left from but most of the time it doesn't happen like most of the time it doesn't happen like that going from going for peyton manning going from indy and then going to denver the already stacked team super bowl ready team all that was missing was a quarterback

the goddamn the um jameis winson tampa and tom ready coming into a team that was it's already ready to establish we just need a quarterback you you have to understand because i i was look in denver i'm very close to because all my people, a lot of my people were still there.

And I would go back and I watch how Peyton ingratiated himself.

He was not standoffish, took time for everybody.

He was Peyton Manning.

You do realize at the time that he came to Denver, Ocho,

he was a four-time league MVP.

Absolutely.

He was already a five- or six-time first-team all-pro quarterback.

No quarterback has more first-team all-pros, more MVPs than Peyton Manning.

But you would know that by being around him and talking to him.

And then you watch him in the meeting rooms and you watch him on the practice field.

And now you understand.

He demands that you play at a level and you got to match him.

You've got to, Tom Brady forces you to match that because people watch him and they see him.

If he's working that hard, nothing less is accepted of me.

Absolutely.

Everybody, everybody is,

Everybody leads differently, but everybody can't be a great leader.

Either.

You got corporals and you got lieutenants and you got one star and two star and three star and four star.

They don't do five star generals anymore.

There've only been five of those in the history of what we have of the military.

Right.

But,

and Russ handled it like I thought he would.

Yeah, he's hurt.

Man, you're taking my job and I got a stand up.

Y'all do realize, I gotta throw, how many touchdowns have Russ thrown for?

Damn near 400?

He's got to be well over three.

Came in the league in 2013.

So this is his 14th season.

So he came in in 2012.

He was with RG3 and Andrew Luck.

So he's got 353 touchdowns.

How many guys you know got 353 touchdowns stand on the sideline and hold a clipboard with the ear headset in the ear?

Those guys start until they don't want to start until it's time for them to lead the league.

look at the guy look at the guys that have thrown for

300 plus touchdowns none of them never been never got demoted like that

you look at matt ryan you look at ben rothenberg you look at phillip rivers john elway dan marino peyton manning tom brady drew brees that's eight i could talk think of off the top of my head uh johnny uninas

now obviously johnny ended up going you know he didn't do very well when he got when he left indie and ended up going to the chargers But

it hurts.

And you got to put on a brave face.

You do.

Yeah.

Because a lot of times people want to see you crack.

And Russ

and Russ is not wired like that.

Russ is going to remain positive.

And

I'm very happy with the way he's handled this whole situation.

Because deep down inside, he knew, Ocho.

You go to a place and they draft a quarterback.

You already know what time it it is.

The classic waiting.

When Tom went to Tampa, did they take a quarterback in the first round?

No.

And so they were just like, hey,

tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick, tick.

And you got to fight because you know they want to play him.

That's not, he's not a decoration.

That's not something that you just prop up.

No, they wanted to play him.

It's not like a situation like Alex Smith had.

They drafted Patrick Mahomes.

He knew Patrick Mahomes.

He said, I got one year.

There's nothing I can do to keep them from playing Patrick Mahomes next year.

My job is to try to keep them from playing his ass this year.

Yeah, yeah.

And they went 11-5.

Boom.

They lost to the Titans.

They had an 18-3 lead.

They ended up losing.

But we'll see what Jackson Dart got going up against the Chargers, who's played as well as anybody in the NFL.

So

3-0.

Go ahead.

Go ahead, Dutch.

I'm still stuck.

I know we talk about Jackson Dart.

We talked about Russell Wilson, the Giants, and all that, but I'm still stuck on that goddamn quote you led with.

Now, that's one I haven't heard before.

I didn't heard my grandma, my grandfather say all type of stuff, but I'm using that.

The devil, you know, is sometimes better when you don't.

Who were you cooking for?

I can't wait to add this to my pamphlet.

God damn, that was the good.

So, I mean, boy, it's not an easy road that the Giants have to go.

And I don't know if you were with us Sunday.

We went over their schedule.

So Sunday, they played the Giants, excuse me, the Chargers.

And then they're on the road October 5th at New Orleans.

They're home on a short week, Thursday, against the Eagles.

Then they go at Denver, at Philly, home to the Niners, at Chicago, home to the Packers, at Detroit, at New England, bye week.

Hey, but that's tough.

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Oh, Joe, Michael Parsons doesn't expect any booze when he returns to Dallas on Sunday.

I think they're going to give me a good round of applause.

There's no hard feelings there.

At least from me, it's going to be a great atmosphere.

When asked about his feelings towards Jerry Jones, not a welcome back tribute.

There are a lot of things I consider disrespectful throughout the process, but I wouldn't say the tribute.

It's one of them.

I would say, I just think there's hard feelings maybe there for them, but for me, I'm happy where I'm at.

And we got a good football team.

So I guess I can receive my tribute when I win.

OJo, we both returned, played against our former team.

We invested so much into.

Obviously, you tell me all the time I was just there for like a weekend at Baltimore.

But that's it.

Did you go back?

Did you play in Since did you play Cincinnati?

No.

No, I didn't.

I didn't.

Because you have to think, once I left Cincinnati, I only had that one year after that.

Right, right, right.

Yeah, now

I was done.

I was done.

Well, they gave me love.

I mean, when I went back to Denver, I went back to Denver the second year because first year, Ocho, we beat them in the first round of the playoffs.

in the wild card game.

So we beat them.

And then the following year, we went back.

Crowd cheered.

Every time I caught the ball, they introduced the offense, crowd cheered.

I go back, then I go back to Denver, and we go to Baltimore.

Gave me love both times.

So, yes, sir.

Uh, I think the thing is, is that for me, um,

there was really no hostility one way or another.

There's really no protracted contracts and going back and forth, asking for a trade, X, Y, and Z.

But I told you when he laid on that table, I said, oh, you're that ain't a good look, though.

Yeah,

I told you.

the funny thing about especially when it comes to the dallas cowboys cowboys fan base there's no hostility towards michael parson because you know everything was out of his control everything out of control so everything that was said and in in in in somewhat of a almost an unfair way that you don't think an owner would say he can maybe think it but actually jerry jones one of the one of the few owners who gets away with saying the things that other owners think and he said it out loud he didn't care so if anything when he does come back to goddamn Dallas, there's no reason for the fans to boo him.

And all, if anybody should be booed, it's you know who.

Yeah,

for me, I was, look,

I was in Denver for 10 years the first time, Ojo, and come back.

Right.

And, you know, we had won,

you know,

back-to-back Super Bowls.

I was a, you know, went to seven consecutive Pro Bowls.

all-pro and all that stuff and went to one Pro Bowl in Baltimore.

But I think the thing is, is that the fans really appreciated how hard I worked.

I didn't complain.

I just came to work, showed up, did my job, and I left.

I had only had got along great with my teammates.

And I think Michael got along.

Look, I don't know the inner and out, so I don't know.

But I just think the thing is the last,

like the last four, two or three months or so, with this contract talk.

And you know, look, at the end of the day, those fans, they're Cowboys fans.

Now, you might find a sprinkle here or there of Michael Parsons fans, but those are Cowboys fans.

And more times than not, you know how fans are.

Fans are going to size up the team.

That's just the way it is.

But listen, you also have some that have common sense and understand how things are working.

Some understand the business, some don't.

Some only worried about who is a part of my Dallas Cowboy team.

That's all they care about.

But then some understand the business and understand how it works and able to separate the two.

Being a fan.

and understanding how the team, how the team works, especially when it comes down to contracts.

Sometimes they should be used to it anyway.

Usual anyway when it comes to their star players, because they've had to deal with it for so many years.

Yeah, I think it's just funny going back

standing on the opposite side, staring across over there.

For so, for 10 years, Ocho, I stood on this side looking across the field.

Now I'm over, I'm across the field, staring back across the field.

And the same thing when I went to Baltimore, it's different.

You go in a different way.

You know, all of a sudden, now I'm taking a bus to the stadium.

I'm used to driving myself to the stadium.

So it's,

it's,

it's going to be different.

It's going to be different.

And it's so new.

I mean, you're like only four years in Dallas.

I mean, most people, when you leave and go back and play another team, it's years and years.

You know, Peyton played, but Tom played New England.

Think about how long Tom Tom had played 20 seasons in New England.

He goes back, you know,

first year

and he plays.

So we get that, but it's like, man, four years, that's really, damn, that's quick.

But you don't, sometimes, Ocho, you don't get the, that's out of your control.

We don't always get the control.

And look, as an athlete, we try to control what we can control.

Because,

and that's what we're good at, Ocho.

Because, look, I knew if I worked my tail off, okay, good things are going to happen because I can control that.

I can control how hard I work.

When it comes to things like what happened with Micah, that was out of his control.

Yep, absolutely.

And matter of fact, when it comes to things that we can control, the one thing that we can control, we can control our production

and what we do and the work we put in.

Most of the time, if you put the work in, the results are going to show up on Sundays.

Two things we can't control is we can't control injuries and you can't control getting older.

That's it.

You want to do as much as you can in between that time and trying to ensure you don't get hurt.

But once you hit like 30 and 31,

the game starts to play.

The game, listen, once you hit 30 and 31, 32, 33, they start playing the games.

Oh, well, your targets start decreasing, and they start, you know, we need to talk to you about your production.

And, man, come on.

But

I mean,

I mean, tributes, normally, man, that's for like the best of the best.

I mean, you won championships.

You're the MVP.

You know what I'm saying?

Like that.

You're a defensive player of the year.

You spent some time.

I mean, after four years, and look, and this is not a knock on Michael.

Michael's a phenomenal player.

But, you know, when Emmett came back, Emmett came back, he was the all-time lead rusher.

You know what I'm saying?

Emmett was an MVP.

Emmett was won three Super Bowls.

Tom going back to New England.

Peyton going back to Indy.

It's levels.

to

a video tribute.

Everybody's not going to get a video tribute.

Even if you play 10 years, 15 years of a place, every, I mean,

it all depends on who you were and what you did.

If you're a 15-year special teams player, you're probably not.

Now, maybe if you're Matthew Slater,

you'll probably get one.

If you're Adam Vinettieri, Vinnettieri, you'll probably get one.

But look, if I'm Mike, I ain't worried about that.

Like Michael said, look, we win the game.

That's my tribute.

And I'm coming.

You know he's coming, Ocho.

You know.

Yeah, he coming.

He's been working on a move.

He like, because

when we're there, Ocho, you know what you did, Ocho.

Let me tell you what you did.

When you was going against your guys in practice, you know, if this was a real game, what would happen?

Because I'm saying, bro, you do realize this practice, but if I actually played you in a real

situation.

Right, right, right, right.

Bro, I'm cooking, y'all.

Oh, yeah.

For real.

Yeah.

And listen,

you know, you know,

one thing about it, especially in practice, that them boys made me better, huh?

I remember all my DB's name by hard.

Remember Jeff Burrs?

Yeah, I do, yeah.

I bet you went to know the name from know the name, right?

Yeah.

Jeff Burrs,

Leon Hall, Tori Jane.

Tory played with me, Torrey Jane from LSU.

He played with me and Deborah.

Yeah, man, listen.

JJ.

Jonathan Joseph.

It's some more Pac-Man.

Hey, Unc.

But in practice, oh man, I'm talking about, listen, I got mine.

They got me some time too, but I know who got, I know who won most of the matchups.

Hey, boy, with Pac-Man, Unk, me and Pac-Man in practice, oh my God.

But it was, it was, look, I wanted to.

You talk about work?

But

we was out there working.

And I want feedback.

I'm out there working like I'm a seven-round pick, uncle.

Man, Marvin and Hugh had, they had to throw me out of practice.

Why in the hell is you taking the scout team reps, man?

Get out the people's way.

Because I knew I wanted to go against my number ones.

I'm not going to get no real work unless I'm going against my number ones.

They had,

let me tell you how bad it was.

I know I'd be playing around a lot, but when it came time to play football, I might have been fun and talking trash and doing all that entertainment.

But when it came to that game and being a student of the game,

I told you, but hey, over preseason, they talk about how many snaps we're going to play.

Shit, you're going to call a timeout to get me out of the game.

But

that was so much fun fun to me man just looking at marvin face when all the ones came out all the ones that come out and i stand on the field acting like there's something wrong with me until the second team come in and force marvin to call the timeout man listen i'm here to play football man i ain't worried about no injuries you ain't i'm don't don't try to protect me from getting hurt precisely i'm here to i play football i didn't went i went through two tricks two weeks of training camp two of these And now you're telling me I only get to play one series, one drive?

No, sir.

That's in a situation like that, Micah is going to look, Micah is going to say, this is why I was worth $47 million.

This game, this is why the Packers gave up two first rounders and Kenny Clark and gave me $47 million.

This is why.

Yeah.

You see what I did today?

This is why.

Make it a statement.

Absolutely.

Matter of fact.

And speaking of $47 million, he gonna show that all season long, especially as they continue to work him in and allow him to get more reps, allow him to get his legs up under him.

You know, once he gets in football shape, because he missed so much time, you know, missing training camp.

Yo, here, we only in, we, we only, what, in week four?

Week four.

Yeah.

Week four.

And, you know, hey, it's going to take him a while.

I mean, he a couple of weeks from being in tip-top football shape.

Oh, yeah.

Right now, that, you know, he's a specialist right now, but hey.

Him and Rashawn Gary, pretty soon, because Rashawn Gary is tied for the lead league and sack.

Pretty soon they're going to start tied up.

He got four and a half, huh?

Rashawn got four and a half, huh?

You see what happened when he came on nightcap?

See what I'm seeing.

I'm saying

that ain't nothing but God.

That ain't number God's work.

Everybody come on nightcap, have success.

What Melissa, what Melissa Jefferson left within Tokyo to what

three?

Oh, three of them.

Oh, the four out one.

Three goals.

Everybody come on nightcap having success.

Okay, that's it ain't a coin.

Hey, it ain't a coincidence.

It is not,

bro.

You need to be in bed.

You should be in bed.

You should be in the bed.

Hey, Titus.

Titus.

Titus.

It's just gonna make me pay for it.

Hey,

hey, let me let me get let me get titus for a week.

No,

no,

no, you don't know how to first of all.

You don't know how to handle him.

You ain't been around, dog.

You don't know how to handle him.

Come on, I done had dog popped up.

Now I'm I'm dog.

Oh, he's different.

Nah, he's good.

He's good.

I'm a.

I'm a dog.

I'm a dog.

Not that kind of dog.

I'm saying I'm like, I'm a dog.

I become one with the animal.

They used to call me the dog whisperer back in back in 92.

Nah, Ocho, you uh,

I just want to take him to the dog party.

Oh, Joe, he intact.

He, I know, he attacked.

He's the tech man.

Yes,

so you're you're not supposed to have

them.

You can't have them there.

Oh, you oh, he's spaded

neutered.

Okay, spades, what female?

Hey, I'm gonna get a

homie some action.

Hell no, boy, people sue you.

No, no, no.

I mean, I got it's a lady I know.

She got a poodle.

That's a heat.

You'll be in no border with no.

Yeah.

Tell him, say, nah.

Say, we good.

We better stay here with dad.

The Falcons fire wide receiver coach Ike Hilliard.

One day, after being routed by the NFC rivals, Carolina Panthers, offensive

game coordinator TJ Yates will assume.

T.J.

Yates, that's the quarterback.

The way he a quarterback for the Texans?

Will assume Hilliard's duties.

Per the team.

Offensive coordinator Zach Robinson will call plays from the sideline moving forward.

Robinson called plays from the coaches booth since he joined the team in 2024.

Hey, I'm confused.

Is that supposed to be a distraction of some sort?

What's the point of firing the receiver coach?

I don't know.

The quarterback played terrible.

Yeah, some some, I mean, that that doesn't make no any sense to me, especially this early in the year.

Yeats, I think that name sounds for me.

Yeah,

I don't get that.

I don't know.

Maybe that was something

internally that was going on, but the final.

But I don't know.

If you're shaking things up, I don't understand how to put so what guys running the wrong routes.

I mean, what was going on?

They got into an argument.

The coordinator and the position coach or the head coach and the position coach got into it.

I agree with you, Ocho.

This don't seem right.

It might have been something like that.

It might have been something like that.

It had to be some issues going on where somebody might have been arguing or other thing.

Because, I mean, find anybody

a week three?

Come on, man.

Come on, man.

The Panthers blew out the Falcons 30 to nothing.

Michael Pennix Jr.

had his worst game of his career, young career, throwing two interceptions.

He hasn't thrown a touchdown to a receiver or a tight end this season.

In fact, He has only one touchdown passed this season.

That's to Bijan Robinson.

Oh, Joe, I mean, look,

we've all had receiver coaches i'm just trying to figure out how much can a

a receiver coach be responsible for the offense he's not he's not he's not responsible for that

absolutely not he has one job to do that's the coach receivers make sure

make sure you get from point a to point b as fast as you can and catch the goddamn ball that's it That's all he can do.

And make sure you're well prepared knowing the game plan and what you got to do.

yeah i'm shocked that's why that's why i know it had to be something else something must have went on that sideline that or maybe behind closed doors where it didn't sit well and they let brother but brother here you go

the the great i just mentioned ike the other night too when we talked about the gator gators yeah i'm gonna tell you this

There's gonna be a lot of other people fired if that quarterback don't start playing better.

Oh, yeah

Ike here, you might have been the first to go, but let that quarterback

play better.

Quarterback coach.

The offensive coordinator.

Yeah.

Matter of fact,

Mr.

Blank going.

Now you got me curious.

I want to know why he was fired.

I'm going to be nosy.

I'm going to be nosy.

Because we thought the Falcons were going to be good.

I'm not saying

not for a second, OJo.

I thought they were going to the Super Bowl, but I thought they would be better than what they were last year.

You look at the weapons that they got.

They got Mooney and they got Drake London, Drake London, Drake London, Kyle Pitts, Kyle Pitts,

Ray Brand McCloud, Raymond McCloud, and they got Bijan Robinson.

They got Algier.

They got a nice little squad offensively.

Good weapons.

With those weaponry, you can't get shut out with those weaponry.

Nah.

But if your quarterback played like some stir-fry,

you can.

Yeah.

He He played bad.

Late with the, bro, you know you can't, bro.

How you going to stay?

How are you going to be on this side looking at this half of the field?

Right.

Then all of a sudden come back and throw to the flat blind.

Nah, you can't do that.

That's going the other way.

That's going the way.

That's going the other way every time.

If anything, if anything,

you read one and two.

If one and two ain't that, then you go to the flat right away.

Because if you take any more time than that, the corner, they was in two.

The corner, he dragged.

He ain't going nowhere anyway.

No.

He ain't got nothing to threaten him deep.

So why would he go deep?

Exactly.

Exactly.

It sure wouldn't.

So,

yeah,

I don't get this one.

This move befuddles me.

Yeah.

Because I've never heard, like I said,

maybe something happened.

We don't know all the intricacies of what transpired.

Something had to have happened.

Ain't no way you believe that you got shut out 30 to nothing, and that responsibility falls on the receiver's coach.

The receiver's coach,

hey, Ike might have cut Ike might have cussed somebody out now.

He might have cussed out the officers coordinator.

Okay, now maybe, maybe, maybe that makes sense.

Probably taking up the power.

Even if he did curse him out, after two weeks, I mean, after three weeks, I mean, this is where we are right now.

Yeah, something

now.

You said we're in a panic mode.

Yeah.

You set us up for panic when we shouldn't be panicked.

You should be calm.

Yeah, you're right.

Shoot, I'm nosy.

I just text Ray Ray.

She was like,

what happened, boy?

I'm nosy.

Yeah, this is a...

This is a...

I'm surprised by this.

I didn't think Atlanta was a Super Bowl contending team, but I did think they would be much better than

what they showed last year.

And it's not a good look ocho with the guy that you know your starter

you three in week three you already had to put him on the you had to say nah some we've seen enough yeah that's not good nah

and you let you let him go out on the sword too um

yeah for sure let you let him go out on the sword especially once you've already made that move that you are a quarterback of the future there's no reason that kirk cousins should be going in that game no none at all unless not kirk could not cousins believe that he got a chance to get back in there

basically and he's a good and and kurt is a good sport for actually going in the game

he is i mean what i mean hey first cousins ain't trying to give him no money back why am i gonna get you know conduct detrimental by not going back into the game and they get takes up my money i'm gonna get all this money you know how much cousins has made oh yeah about 300 ain't getting y'all none of that back 330 and some change

Yeah, I ain't giving y'all none of that back.

I'm going to get all that.

As a matter of fact, y'all still owe me about 10-12 next year.

Going to get that too.

Might get some more.

Yeah, this makes no sense, Socho.

Look, like I said, we didn't think the Falcons were going to be world beater, but we saw some of the promise that they showed last year at the end of the season when Pennex came in.

Guys were getting the ball and so much, you know,

talking to Kyle.

He seemed very excited.

Excited, yeah.

As a matter of fact, when we had the tour,

well, that was last year when Raheem we talked to Raheem.

But we still thought that they were going to be good.

We thought they were going to be really good this year because, you know, Pennix was talking about, you know, hey, he's looking for Kyle.

And, you know, we got Drake London, we got Mooney, and we got Ray Ray.

And we got, you know, we got some weapons.

We got Bijan, who's a dual threat.

He can catch it.

We can run it.

X, Y, Z Algier, a good power back.

This move makes no sense to me.

At all.

Connor's running back, James Connor, will undergo surgery on his foot and will miss the rest of the 2025 season.

How big of a loss is this, Ocho?

Man, it's a big loss.

It's a big loss.

Marvin Harrison Jr.

didn't have a very, very good game.

He got to have a problem with the drops.

You got the gifts right now, Ocho.

Now

you got Connor out.

he's gone he he's your bail cow now that put more pressure on kyler murray more pressure on kyler murray knowing marvin's knowing marvin harrison jr he gonna bounce back he gonna bounce back all it all it is uncanny you have games like this hell i've had okay i haven't had a game like this but i've had games where i've dropped the ball before and all it is going back to practice looking the ball in, starting over like you're a little kid, looking the ball in every time, find the laces, catch the laces don't take your ass off the ball make sure you got it secured and and then and then just go yeah and get yourself you think you're trying to do too much ojo yeah that's it taking his eyes taking his eyes off the ball that's that's all it was and it's easy too um

the most difficult passes to catch are the ones that's wide open

where you wide when you wide open man you take your ass off the ball trying to make a play before you secure it that's all he either he wide open and he know the guy gonna be coming at a rate of a high rate of speed so he's like man i make make one move and

you made the move and the ball's on the ground.

So it don't matter if you made a miss.

Right.

Yeah, it's tough.

Yeah, James Conner, he's their bell cop.

I think he went to the Pro Bowl last year, runs hard, can catch the ball out of the backfield, but he's really their bell cop running back.

I don't know who his backup is, but it just puts more emphasis on,

as you mentioned, on Kyler and that passing game.

Right.

tough.

I mean, you hate to see a guy, you know,

because, you know, we've been there.

We know what we put in to make sure we try to stay as healthy as we possibly can once the season starts.

And here we are, you know, three weeks into the season and we're done for the year.

Yeah.

Now that's crazy.

Done for the year.

Man, that's

that's only that's happened.

I mean, I broke my collarbone in week four and I was done for the year and I was miserable.

Damn.

Huh?

But you done broke, boy, you done broke everything.

Fractured my eye socket and missed the last three games of the season.

Dislocated my elbow, missed four games of the season.

Sprained a knee ligament.

Hey, listen, if I played with you, wouldn't none of that happen?

If we was on the same team, you wouldn't have had no injuries.

Your shoulders would have been straight.

Your knees, your ankles, all that, the ankles you had to keep getting them ankles shot up, wouldn't have been no problem.

I would have been no problem.

You would have been scraped.

Man, my shoulders, man, I just

caught a pass and rested so Dave Dewart so that I caught it, separated my shoulder when I fell on this one, and then he fell on top of this one and separated the other one.

Listen, I would have popped up both of them.

Yeah, I would have popped them, boy, right back in place for you on the sideline.

Take this, pop the back, I would have taken this torrent off, put this harness on, and you're good to go.

No, I ain't wearing no harness, but uh, I just uh

that was like the last like last preseason game yeah and then i missed practice

shot the shoulders up that sunday yeah

played as long as i could and that made uh uh i'm trying to trying to think i cracked back on somebody at oh no no i forgot you took ronnie ladder yep

that thing went numb it was a wrap That thing was hanging out the bone.

And you hit that helmet like this?

Oh, I couldn't do that.

I couldn't even do that.

Hey, I was like, oh, come, come get me.

Come get me.

I said, what's Greek?

Steve Antonopus was our trainer.

What is it, Sharpie?

I said, Greek, I'm done.

He said, can you rate?

He's like, Sharpie, can you rate?

No.

I'm going to tell you before you even ask, the answer is no.

Right.

Can you squeeze my hand?

No.

Can you rate?

No.

so ocho i'm just going ahead and greek i'm gonna prepare you for everything that you're gonna ask me i can't is already no i can't do it yeah can you can you push my hands out oh you're you know pushing my hands out like this can you push your hands in i can't do none of that yeah

so i just uh

Yeah, and I just, I just feel bad because, man, you put so much, you put so much time in that.

Yo,

then I'm, yeah, I

fractured my orbital bone, old show.

And so they, they, they, uh,

for a week, they had my eyelid, had my eyes closed, sold my eyelids shut,

had to sit up.

Ah, man, it was, ooh.

Damn.

And you're going to talk about I need to be, man, please.

Who, what happened?

No, you talk about, man,

you got to live.

You got to do some adventure.

Man, I ain't trying to have nothing else broke at my age.

You do.

The stuff we're going to do, the stuff that we're going to do that's adventurous is not stuff that can cause you to re-injure anything that's that that's happened to you.

I'm gonna be doing all this dangerous stuff, you're just gonna be there for moral moral support.

Okay,

that's all.

Can I, uh,

can I, could I, can I like

video?

Can I watch from here?

Nah, nah, how the nah, man.

We supposed to be

like Tom and Jerry, man.

You got, you got to be out in the field with me.

Okay.

I can say Jordan.

Nah, nah, Jordan, Jordan, the cameraman.

I know.

That's why I'm going to say Jordan.

And

Jordan can send it back to me.

I can be watching.

Like, yeah,

that's a good shot.

There, Jordan.

Keep it on me.

Hey, we, you know, it's so, it's so much stuff.

It's so much stuff that is untouched.

I'm telling you,

when it comes to creating content that we can do that nobody else is doing, we can go, we can go hang gliding.

We go deep sea diving.

Oh, Joe.

When do we have time to do that?

in the offseason

okay

nightcap the adventures of uncan ocho

man we have about we have about 100 200 000 people watching man i'm telling you go go-kart racing

go shark diving

A few days after Coach Prime said the Jags aren't using Travis Hunter enough, Liam Cole said Travis Hunter role on offense won't expand.

Take a listen to what he had to say, Ocho.

But yeah, he's one right now, one position on offense and one position on defense.

So

that doesn't really fully change.

It's just more the next guy having to go and adjust to go play some Z, which is what happened in the game.

So no, I don't think it changes much.

So after the season where he'll be, he'll spread his wing a little bit on offensive and offensive.

Yeah, I don't think it's fair right now to say, hey, dude, go learn Z and X and 12 and this and that.

It's like, man, we got to make sure he can really go and execute what we're asking him to do first and foremost, which is play F and play corner.

So I think as we go and as he goes, I got to believe that it'll continue to do this.

So

that's why you see more Parker when the AMI goes down.

So more opportunities for Parker.

I know he was very transparent with us about the two drops.

You said he had great practice last week.

Expectations for his usage this year.

Yeah, I think, you know, I have not lost any confidence in Parker by any means.

You know, stuff happens.

It's not obviously something that we're excited about in the moment, but

he takes a lot of responsibility and accountability.

He works his tail off every single day.

Like I said, he literally had his best week of practice last week as a JAG since we've been here.

So, you know, there's a lot of confidence.

Really, the message to him is, dude, we got to just move forward, man.

I agree.

Yeah.

Me, I always thought, Ocho, he would be better served playing defense and then have packages for him on offense.

I mean, but everybody, everybody want the man to just, hey, we're gonna just throw him in there and let him play.

Bro, this ain't college.

I don't care what anybody says.

I don't care how many snaps he played and how great he was.

This is the best of the best.

There's a reason why they stopped doing that in the 60s.

There's a reason.

So to ask this man, and see, I'm not concerned.

Ocho, there have been a lot of guys that could play both ways, but can you play them at an elite level?

Because that's what it comes down to.

You see Troy Brown played offense and defense.

You saw Julian Ellman play it

in spurts.

But can you play it at the level?

Can you hold your own against Jamar Chase?

And then can you go beat Pat Sertan on a consistent basis?

Can you beat Stingley on a consistent basis?

Can you beat Sauce Gardner on a consistent basis?

Okay, can you D up Jeddah?

Can you D up neighbors, Brian Thomas Jr., Chase?

Can you do that?

So this notion about, oh, he can do that, he can do that.

I want to see him do it at an elite level on both sides of the ball.

And the coach is saying, there'll be a time for that.

Let the guy get used to the system.

He's not there yet.

Obviously, this is

a good thing.

But everybody's talking about if they misuse him.

If they're not misusing him.

I think they're just bringing him along slowly, not just throwing him, not throwing him out there to the fire, throwing him out there to the wolves, allowing him to get acclimated, learn everything so you don't have to think because you play your best.

When When he was at Colorado, he already knew what to do.

That's why he was playing his best.

Yes, I don't have to think.

I can just go play and react.

So once he gets to that point over there in Jacksonville, then they'll add a little bit more on his plate.

Okay, we go.

We know he got this.

Okay, he got F.

Okay, now we can teach him Z.

Add a little bit more on his plate.

Okay, boom.

Oh, he got Z.

Now we can add X.

Then defensively, okay, he's a little bit more.

He's a little comfortable now.

Boom, maybe we can put him on first and second downs instead of waiting until third.

It's just a little little step.

Just bringing him along slow.

So I think it's kind of smart of them the way they're using them right now.

I think there'll be certain situations, certain circumstances where they will need that advantage, that mismatch that he does create on both sides of the ball.

I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, look, you know, when you was a kid and you're like, give me someone know, eat what's on your plate.

Let him eat what is on his plate.

Let him get this position.

Let him master that.

And then as he starts to master master that i don't care what anybody says pro offenses are more complicated than college offenses pro defenses are more complicated than college defenses that's just the way it is and the athletes are better just better

i don't care look and the se we believe the sec and the big 10 is as close to nfl as we get guess what there are a lot of guys in the sec and the big 10 that don't make it in the nfl All those guys that come out there on Sunday, they made it.

And there are a lot of guys that

played in the conferences that didn't make it.

So you're talking about the best of the best.

And that's the thing.

Ocho, it's not enough for him to just say, I play both sides of the football.

People want to see he won the Heisman Trophy because he was elite on both sides of the ball.

If he is not elite on both sides of the ball, Ocho, what are we doing?

Let's be all the way real, chat.

What are we doing?

The thing about an SUV, Ocho, that's what made the SUV so popular.

Ocho, I can hire my kids in it

and I can pull up to a, I can go, hey, I can be in the carpool line or I can go to, I can go to a black tie dinner.

I can do both.

I can drive in the summertime.

A, I can be at Miami and drive my SUV, but guess what?

I can go to Minnesota and also do it.

So if I, if it, if it doesn't give me that kind of value, what are we doing, Ocho?

You're right.

But another thing, too, also,

you took him so high, right?

You traded, Ocho, you traded up to get it.

Right.

So we're going into week four.

Now, I understand it's a long season.

But what you add onto that plate,

we need to keep on adding

and see

that a little bit more week to week.

And I think that's what they're going to do, Ocho.

I mean,

I think he played, this was the first time that he played more defense than he played offense.

But I think he was still around 60 plays.

They just, we just haven't seen him get in the end zone.

We haven't seen him get any interceptions, which we routinely saw at Colorado.

Man,

this is the NFL.

Y'all would realize this is the best of the best.

This is the top 0, 0000.1%.

That's what that is.

Bro,

I don't think people get it.

I don't.

I think the thing is that people just, people actually thought, Ocho, he was going to just walk in there and do what in the NFL, what he did at Colorado.

And then if you say, Ocho, like, man, Ocho said, I got 11 years of this thing, man.

That thing ain't that easy.

I got

14.

I said, man, it's not that easy.

Oh, y'all hating.

No, we're just telling you what it's going to take to play at that level.

Time didn't even play both ways.

And time was as talented as anybody that's ever stepped foot in the NFA.

Greatest of all time.

I mean,

they had a package.

Time was a did what he did defensively.

And then he would come in with a package.

Now, he played a little bit more when I think Michael got hurt one year

or the number two receiver got hurt.

And so he played more.

Same thing with champ, same thing with champ at Washington.

Yes, same way, yep.

But for me personally, I don't think they're misusing Trav.

I think they're building him up slowly and slowly and putting more and more on his plate.

And the more he can eat, the more he can digest.

And we'll just keep going like going like that until we build it out.

We don't need, hey, this thing don't, we don't need to build this overnight.

We don't need to try to have him learn X, Y, X,

Z,

F.

We don't need him to do all that.

Hey, you got the slot.

Oh, you playing, oh, you, you playing, you playing outside, you playing inside, you playing dime.

We don't need to do all that, oh Joe.

There'll be a time that it'll be second nature, but I'm sure there's a lot going on in this place, but it's ocho, it's hard because to get good at something, you do it all the time over and over.

It's repetition, yeah,

it's it's it's repetition in the funny thing.

So he go from he go go from a standing split to now he's in a back pedal.

And the funny thing, he won't be the Travis Hunter we're used to seeing that we saw in Colorado.

He won't be that into the NFL until he knows everything.

He's still thinking.

He's still thinking.

I know it's football at the end of the day, but he's still thinking.

It's your rookie year.

You're going into week four.

You're still thinking.

So they're putting you in advantageous positions where you don't have to think.

You just got to play.

That's why your plate is so small right now.

So all you have to do is just play and let your God-given ability and what you've learned so far take over.

Yes.

I mean,

give him a year or two.

Let's see where he's at halfway through the season.

Let's see where he's at at the end of the season.

Let's see where he's at in year two, year three.

And it's so funny.

But

in order for this to make sense, He's going to have to be lead on both levels because you took him so high.

You took him with the number two pick in the draft.

Number two pick in the draft is supposed to be franchise altering.

Yeah, and they can't.

No matter what position, no matter what position it is, he's supposed to be franchise altering.

You can't use him in that position yet.

Because

franchise altering is usually held for the quarterback position outside of elite skilled players.

Most of the time, it's a receiver, receiver, DBE, what isn't it?

Yeah.

DBs come around every so often, but receiver, quarterback, or running back, franchise altering.

But his plate isn't full enough for him to be franchise-altering right now.

Correct.

It's not.

It's hard.

I mean,

I don't envy him.

I understand that he wants to do things that nobody's ever done.

And it's been a long time since we got a guy that this tally.

We saw Champ Bailey do it.

Miles Jack did it as a running back and a linebacker at UCLA.

But it ain't easy.

It ain't easy to be elite because with the number two pick, you're supposed to be elite.

And he wants to be elite on both sides of the football.

Now,

you ask Time.

Time says, Look,

had I devoted what I devoted to being a wide receiver, like I devoted to DB, ain't no question in my mind.

I get a gold jacket as a wide receiver.

And I believe him.

I believe him.

Because

he was just so gifted.

God just gave that man so much ability.

But people, but see, a lot of times, Ocho, when God gives somebody ability, they make it seem like they don't work.

Time worked.

Time studied.

But see, you're like, man, God, no, no.

Yes, God blessed him.

But the greatest are when God blessed you and you're the hardest worker.

You get a Tom Brady.

You get a Deion Sanders.

You get a Kobe Bryant.

You get a Michael Jordan.

You get a LeBron James.

You get a Griffey Jr.

That's what you get.

You get a Barry Bonds, you get that.

That's what you get when you take a Tiger Woods.

Serena.

Serena Williams.

That's what you get.

When God kiss you with God-given ability and work ethic.

You dangerous, boy.

You dangerous.

And the funny thing about it is he already, he got the work ethic too.

Not only do he have the work ethic, but he goddamn believe he can do it.

He believed he could do it.

That's part of it.

I was just going to say that.

That's part of it.

Once you believe you can do something, oh, shh.

Boy, it's up, Ben.

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