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after nearly two decades 19 years sonia richards ross held the american record in the 400 meter at a time of 48.70.
On the exact same day,
19 years ago, 19 years later, Sidney McLaughlin took it down.
In the semifinals of the World Track and Field Championship, McLaughlin clocked 4829.
I think that's off ashes, the seventh fastest time in history, not the 11th, but it is the fastest time by an American.
She took 0.41 seconds off the American record.
Sid says she was shocked at the performance, saying she wasn't expecting that.
that's a blistering time and she backed it down at the end um yeah
maybe i'm the only one alive that remember when mattarina coke uh set the world record of 4760.
there have only been two women that's ever cracked sub 48 krachalova who's a 800 meter runner ocho uh she ran 4890 she ran uh 47.99
and then coke ended up running 4760.
And if I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from lane two.
Now,
NASA has been down there.
I think she's 48.11.
I think Paulino, who's actually in this race, I think she's run like 48-17.
Marie Jose Perrette, the French lady, she's back-to-back Olympic champ.
She also won the 200 in Atlanta.
She won the four and the two.
I'm trying to think who else has been a low time.
They had this Russian, Brazina.
She ran on the
88 team.
I think she was the one that helped Flojo off, if I'm not mistaken, Ojo.
My memory serves me correctly.
They've been a few,
Kathy Freeman.
There have been some great 400-meter runners, Valerie Briscoe, Hook, Kathy Freeman, Perek, Nasser, Paulino, Coke, Krachalova, but Sydney McLaughlin.
And she said something very interesting.
She said, look, let somebody go up under 48 before we start talking about 4760.
Because I don't think, I don't think understand what people understand.
Just how fast that is for a woman.
That's booking.
You literally,
you're going to probably have to go out in 22 seconds
and come home in
25, 25, 5.
Let that sink in.
Because normally they're going out in 23 and try to come home in 25.
She's going to have to go out in 22 and come home in 25 and a half.
She's got the people in the race that could push her.
Nasser takes the pace out.
Paulino liked the track.
She played with fire there and almost didn't make it.
But we'll see what her look.
Sydney's fitness is impeccable.
I believe it's going to take low 48, 48.0,
or they might have to dip under 48 in order for her to win this gold medal.
Yeah.
When is that race?
Well, i think it's today already over there well today well it'll be it'll be
today for us tomorrow for us because i think they're a day ahead of us
yeah so it'll be thursday so it'll be friday for them so they're yeah
i mean
man and she told lewis she wasn't expecting that because uh you know normally ocho you i'm doing just enough to win to qualify, get the third lane.
And then now in the finals, I can drop the hammer.
But to run 48.29 and take 4-1.41
off the American record,
she was cruising, don't you?
She was cruising.
She was cruising.
And see, this is why
Femke, Bo, the Dutch runner, can't beat in the hurdles.
She ain't got the foot speed.
She had the foot speed.
Right.
I mean, what you gonna do?
What were you gonna do with someone that can
can run 48 seconds?
I mean, it's going to be very impressive.
If she abandoned
the hurdles and sets her sight in 28 and the 0-4
and she gets the world record
in the four and the hurdles.
Yeah.
Lord.
Because
I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody get this coach record.
This 40 record is 40 years old.
I thought that, that, oh, I mean, nobody's come close.
There's only been two women in the history that's ever run sub 48.
So, what made, and nobody's come close like
NASA ran 48-11, but she got popped.
Right.
So, like, uh,
um,
Peret,
when she ran, when she ran
the French runner, when she's a double 400, there ain't been a whole lot of women to double up.
I think
Shawnee Milawibo, I think she doubled up also.
But Ocho, that's booking.
That is booking.
Very.
And I think people really don't understand how fast it is.
And in reference to you saying booking, unless you watch track, unless you know track and understand.
Or you ran track and realized how hard it is to run,
how hard it is to run a 50-second lap, unless that's a special
to run 49
to run 48 for a woman?
Yeah.
And then we talk about 47.
If C and break this world record, that record might be like Boat.
You might have to go three, four, five, about three generations before you see somebody break that record.
Well, somebody see break it again.
Because I think that's what's going to happen with Boat.
Because
we haven't seen anybody come close.
The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson Gay and Johan Blake at 968.
He was at 958.
Hey,
well, a boat was moving in that room.
I still believe, Ocho, had he not celebrated Beijing.
Right.
Hitting his chest.
He's low 950.
He might even go sub 950.
He broke the moment.
Guys, he's light years in front of everybody.
I just, I just, I just wish he, I just wish, but he was so happy to understand the moment.
I just wish he had ran through the tape.
I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that time would have never been broken.
Nobody's ever, you're going to have to be on a motorcycle or have a hurricane behind you.
That's the one or two things.
You on a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you.
One of them.
That's it.
But Sid,
she's in phenomenal shape.
And I think it's going to take a special time.
I think it's going to be 48-0
or sub.
I think the world record's safe.
Me personally, I think the world world record is safe.
But I do think 48-0
or maybe a tick under 48 is doable.
I think it's doable.
And then I think
over the next, you know, could she possibly double?
They're going to have to set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson.
Valerie Briscoe Hooks, I forgot about Valerie Briscoe Hooks.
I forgot.
She was a great,
she was the first person to pull the double to 4-2, and she did it in 84.
So we've had Chandra Cheeseboro, we've had some great runners in the 400.
But hold on, we got a great 400 runner right now in the family.
Oh, your daughter?
Yeah, Raya.
Yeah, I hope, I hope you're watching.
You see what Sid doing?
She had, you know,
Kentucky.
Oh, your daughter runs for Kentucky too?
Yeah.
Yeah, she up there.
Yeah, she had been in Kentucky.
Yeah, yeah.
She better be watching.
I think the head coach when Sid went with Edric Floral, I think he's at University of Texas now.
Oh, yeah.
I think so.
I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's at the U.
I think he's at UT now.
But Sid's booking,
Ash, it's the seventh fastest, not the 11th fastest, correct?
It's the 11th fastest?
Nah.
Mm-mm.
I'm going to disagree.
Because 47.60, 47.99, 48.14, 48.17, 48.25, Marie-Jose Perette, 48.27, Olga Brzinka, and Sidney McLaughlin, number seven at 48.29.
So I don't know where they get this from.
The 11th fastest time is by Kathy Freeman, 48.63
at the Olympics in Atlanta.
So
we're going to disagree with we're going to disagree with USA Today or USA Tracking Field.
Yeah.
Oh, I would disagree.
The 11th fastest, hold up.
They say it's the 11th fastest time in history.
How?
Pull it up.
Pull it up.
Pull it up, Ash, right quick.
Google it.
Because something ain't adding up.
I hope they ain't threw men in there.
Oh, oh, oh, okay.
So, what they're doing is she ran more than one time under the time, under Sears time.
They're counting that.
Okay, okay.
So, I was just,
wow.
Yeah, but look, I'm going to leave that alone because we know what the
system that the East Germans and the old old Soviet had in place.
But let's leave that alone.
Hey, she ran the time, it got ratified.
Hey, we'll leave that alone, Ocho.
Okay, okay.
The 11th fastest time, the seventh fastest person because Coke ran two, she ran 4816 twice, and she ran 48.22.
So she got four of the top, four of the top fast, seven times
in the country.
Gold medal in the 110-meter hurt.
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Grant Holloway's trying to four-peat Ocho has come to an end.
Cordell Tinch.
Who did I say, MJ?
Who did I tell I got Cordell Tench?
Ran $12.99.
Orlando Bennett, Jamaica, $13.08.
Tyler Mason, Jamaica, 1312.
Richard,
the Japanese runner, ran 13.18.
Jacoby Tharpe ran 1331.
So
it stays in the house.
It ain't the same person, but it's in the USA.
Hold on, what?
Flamingo, what place he came?
He didn't make it to the finals.
It's been a rough year.
I don't know if he's injured.
I don't know what he's dealing with, but he didn't even make the finals.
Yep, he was a three-time world champ three consecutive times, and he didn't make the finals.
Yep.
And the 1500 meters, Isaac Nader, Portugal, 334.10.
Jake Reitman, Great Britain, 334.12.
Reynolds Chariot, Kenya, 334.25.
Timothy Chariot, Kenya, 334.50.
Neil Larios, the Netherlands, 334.52.
Robert Farkin, Germany, 335.
Josh Kerr was getting Inger Britson.
I don't know what happened to him, but he didn't make it.
Cole Hawker got disqualified for jostling.
And Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ, he dealt with a foot.
He was dealing with a calf injury or something.
He finished 14th and he didn't make it to the finals.
Men's long jump, the girl, the goal went to Forlani of Italy, 839 meters, beat Carl Lewis at the record as the youngest long jump world champ in history.
To Tajay Gale, Jamaica, 834.
Shi Yoha, China, 833.
So, damn.
And the pole ball, Mondo Duplantis, a new world record, Ocho, six meters, 30.
He breaks the world record for the 14th time.
Hey, that's that's crazy because you know I used to pole bowl now.
Yeah.
damn.
Manolo,
Carolis, what was the record?
630 meters.
That's over 20 feet.
Okay, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I did about 17 feet.
Boy, my junior year.
The former world record holder, Renee Lavalani,
was in last place.
He was in eighth place at five meters 75.
He's the former world record holder.
And Sam Kendricks of the U.S., 595,
finished just, just,
just off the podium.
Dang.
Boy, I remember them days, boy.
I was scared to pull it.
And the shot putt, Ryan Krauser in his first meet, he's been dealing with an elbow injury this entire season, but he came in and when he needed to be great, he was 22 meters, 34
for gold.
Munez, Mexico, 2197, silver.
Leonardo
Fabri, Italy, 2194.
Tom Walsh of the Netherlands, excuse me, New Zealand, excuse me.
He was 2194.
But we.
But it's unbelievable what Kraus was able to do.
I mean, just think about Ocho.
The first time he threw the shot in competition was at the World Championship.
Yeah.
And he uncorks 122 meters and 34 on his fifth throw.
The greatest shot putter.
uh uh in the history uh he won three consecutive world championships he's won three consecutive gold medals.
Obviously, he's getting good gear up.
Probably, I don't know what you do.
They only got the USA's next year, and then they got the world championships in 27, and then you got the
Olympics in 28.
He's relocating.
His wife's a doctor.
He's moving to Nashville.
I think she got a job at Vanderbilt.
I think they're relocating from Texas or Oregon.
Yes.
They didn't force you when you was in high school to run track.
I ran track.
So
you ain't do the feel of it?
I did.
I was a triple jumper, long jump through the discus.
Okay,
I did shot putting.
I did pobo.
I ran 4x1, 4x4, 100, 200.
I ran the 1500.
Yeah, I won the, I'm a three-time state champ in the triple jump.
I won the best performance trophy, the farthest jump in the state meet, my senior year.
I won the high point trophy, the most points accumulated in the state track meet, in the state track meet
in my classification.
My junior year.
Yeah, I ran ran track ojo i was pretty good got recruited by a lot of schools
i still i still got my technique your legs too close together
all right i like no my furniture white i can't kick my furniture man
but uh congratulations to all the winners ryan kraus a gold medal yes uh
and Cordell Tinch.
Unbelievable.
We keep the gold here.
We go keep that gold medal here.
Hey, don't think I didn't see what y'all said, Jamaica, but we're about to get that gold medal.
We're about to get gold and silver in the 200.
Let him know.
Talk to him.
Y'all be talking.
Y'all make it seem like the Olympics just inserted 100 meters in 2008
when USA burst
on the scene.
Now, I'm not going to take anything from him.
He's the greatest sprinter to ever live.
Facts.
Not going to take anything from him.
But when it comes to sprinting, and it's incredible what the Jamaicans have been able to do when you look at Ocho, a country that size, you're talking about,
you know, what, four million people?
Yeah, if that.
Yeah.
And to have the greatest, I mean, and some of the women.
I mean, you look at Shelly Ann Frazier.
I mean, they've always had Merlin Audi.
She never won gold, but she was always silver, bronze on the Olympics and the world championships.
So they've had good, good sprinters.
VCB, Veronica Camber Brown, Sharon Stewart.
They've had great women sprinters.
So don't get me wrong.
I don't want to say anything.
But
y'all know what time it is, right?
Y'all know what time it is today.
So if you go back and look at the world championships, I'm saying the last 15, 20 years, I mean, we right there.
I know y'all think the Jamaicans, you know, been running phase, but go back and look at it.
Go back and look it up.
I know y'all only only go back to 2008 because you sane, and I get all that, but you know, the Olympics, the modern Olympics, is 130 years old.
They first instituted the Olympics, the modern Olympics, in 1896.
I'm just, you know,
I just say it.
If you look at it, if you look at it,
gold medal in the Olympics, gold medal in the world championships.
I feel very comfortable.
Do y'all have the greatest male
and female woman sprinter of all time?
Yes, you saying is the greatest, is the greatest male sprinter.
He's the greatest sprinter.
Woman sprinter is Shelly Brazier Price.
Absolutely.
I'm not arguing that.
I'm not.
I'm not.
I'm not arguing that.
Shelly Ann is unbelievable.
I mean, five world championships, two Olympic goals,
a 200-meter championship, two 4x1 championships.
What's the argument?
She's the greatest.
You say, I don't even have to say anything.
I don't need to say, hey, you just say, you say, both, the greatest sprinter ever.
Shelly Ann is the greatest woman sprinter ever.
But, you know, we're going to see what we're going to see.
We're going to try to make it.
We're going to make it two for two.
steaks.
Yeah, hey, MJ got this.
Yeah, and y'all already know Noah
got something for y'all.
Oblique, go see Noah in the 200.
Chris Shane, go see him in the 200.
Y'all want some, y'all want smoke?
Yeah,
all my fellow Jamaicans, you know, I love you.
Yeah,
I love you.
Every last one of you is going to be.
I get them Jamaican oxtails at least once a month.
Huh?
Yeah.
What go on?
Yeah.
But y'all be that be talking reckless, man.
Look, I tell you, it ain't no upset.
It is an upset.
First of all, it is an upset because Noah was the reigning Olympic and world champ.
What do you mean it wasn't an upset?
It is.
If you beat the champ,
It's an upset.
I'm not saying the oblique hadn't been running well.
been.
Noah hadn't had a whole lot.
He was dealing with some injuries.
That's what he said.
He didn't run a whole lot.
Didn't run a whole lot of 100 meters.
Didn't run a whole lot.
And he's, he's taught himself.
He's a 200-meter specialist, like Usain, that taught himself how to be a good 100-meter runner, Ocho.
But I gave Seville and Thompson the credit.
They're going to go to Simply.
They did.
They beat him.
But I'm worried.
I'm worried about this 200.
Why?
Look.
I'm waiting on this.
He seems to be fit.
So it should look.
We know about Noah.
We know about Beneric.
We know about Tobogo.
I don't know if anybody else can really challenge those three.
Noah seems to be as he's run
and he had to run rounds.
He's kind of run himself
conditioned to where he needs to be because there's nothing like racing.
You can go there and practice all you want to, but you got to race.
You got to get your body conditioned to run those four rounds.
And
I like Noah Chances.
We'll see.
I love it.
Now, I don't like it.
I love it.
I love his chances.
Yes.
And if he doesn't win, it's going to be an upset.
It is.
I know Tobogo, but I mean, you talk about a guy that's won, what, three
world championships.
And everybody that's in this race, he has the fastest time.
He's run 1931.
He has the fastest time this year in 1963.
Bigneric is close behind him in 1967.
And then Tobogo is at, what, 1976.
We know Tobogo has run night, I think he ran 1941, 1943 at the Olympics.
So we know
Tobogo can run.
We know he has 200-meter capabilities.
He got DQ'd out of the 100-meters, but it's going to be interesting to see.
God don't know it.
Who wants to best something on it?
Put something on it.
Uh-oh.
What y'all got, Jamaicas?
What y'all want to put on this?
What y'all want to put on it?
Better out of yourself.
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I'm taking Noah.
We getting gold and silver.
We're going to pay y'all ass back.
Y'all took gold and silver in the 100.
We're finna take gold and silver into 200.
That's what we're about to do, Ocho.
That's what we're about to do.
What we got next?
What we got next?
Ocho, one NFL Scout feel Aaron Rodgers looked more comfortable with the Steelers than he did during his camp final campaign with the Jets.
AFC Scout told ESP and Jeremy Fowler that Rogers' week five game with the Jets last season in London marked six to eight weeks of absolute zero mobility due to injury.
He was compromised and it showed.
But just being a year removed from an Achilles tear, he seems a little bit more secure and a little less hesitant compared to a year ago.
After week two loss, Rogers said he believed he's moving a little bit better than in the season opener.
Look, first of all, he's about to be 41 and he's coming off an Achilles injury.
I mean,
it wasn't like he was Michael Vick.
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But as you age and you got that, that's that's a significant injury, Ocho.
That used to be a death sentence.
You got that injury.
Absolutely.
Not a career ender.
Put it like that.
So, but for him to still be able to like,
he can buy time, Ocho.
He was never.
Yeah.
He was athletic enough to get out of harm's way and be able to move.
He doesn't move with the ease that he once did, but he still he can make, he can move well enough to make plays.
And yes,
is the year after the surgery, but it's the year after that, Ocho.
So last year was that first year.
But that next year after,
you get a little bit of that.
Now, see, Adrian Peterson spoiled us
because we saw a guy get his tears knee up in December and then come back to the following September.
And he's like, ain't up, man.
They lied.
He won 2097, won the MVP.
I'll be the player.
Yes.
So he got people spoiled that have a significant injury and come back.
And it wasn't the year after,
it was the very year after.
It wasn't the year after the year.
It was that next season.
And he did that.
So
but I think the thing is that with Rodgers,
if you go back and look at him, Ocho, the game that he played really well, Jacksonville and Miami late in the season.
It's warm weather.
We'll see when the temperature starts to get cold, and it will in Pittsburgh.
And the temperature will get cold in where ocho cincinnati and it will get cold in baltimore and you know as we get to old there's a reason why people move to as people start to age they move to arizona they move to florida they're not trying to be in no damn cold weather cities ocho because them like my grandma said these old booms ain't what they used to be
yeah i mean even though even though he's not what he used to be um he's coming from the coldest weather city where he plays football.
And then being in Pittsburgh, it gets cold, but we talk about, you know, 30, 40.
That's cold.
You were playing below zero.
Below zero at times.
So I think he's going to fare.
He's going to be okay, especially a year and a year removed from that surgery.
He's going to be all right, especially with the scout is saying about him looking a little more calm, a little bit more comfortable in the pop, especially when he's having to extend plays.
You know, he's going to be all right.
He's going to be all right.
Ocho says he's going to be all right.
Ojo, Atlanta Falcons backup, Kirk Cousins, isn't unanimously viewed as an impact or contributor under center within the league, according to NFL insider James Palmer.
There were some people around the league that I talked to think Kirk Cousins is essentially done.
Nah, he's still collecting the check.
He's still got somebody.
Dana Rossini reported that the Falcons don't have any immediate plans to trade Cousins, despite several injuries to starting quarterbacks on opposing teams.
I think if somebody reached out to me, don't hate.
Don't hate hate Atlanta.
Don't hate because what you can, what you could do, listen, I'm not Mike Brown, I'm not Katie Blackburn, I'm not Troy Blackburn, I'm not Duke Tobin.
But I know
if all else fails, we can go ahead and get Kirk Cousins over there to Cincinnati.
Too much money, y'all ain't finna pay that.
You know, he got, you know, he got like 40 million on that contract, Ocho, this year.
I know,
and then he got another, he probably got after
50, 30.
Stay with me now.
How much of that is Atlanta willing to pay?
Huh?
I'm not.
So let me get this straight.
You
want to move into my house and you want, well, hey, how much, how much of the mortgage do you go pay?
Nothing?
Because I don't live there no more.
Okay,
I'm just throwing it.
Well, I'm throwing it back at you.
I'm just listening.
I'm just talking.
I know what he can do at the quarterback.
This one when it comes to throwing that goddamn ball.
And you got two phenomenal, the best duo in the NFL over there in Cincinnati.
But we good.
We got.
Yeah, I do believe, because guess what, Ocho?
You know, your offensive line is not the best.
And what can and what can he do?
Move.
Yeah, he can't.
So he can't.
That wasn't necessary, though.
You ain't had to bring that up.
You want to get there and be like Joe Burrow?
So you have two quarterbacks.
I'm just saying.
You didn't need to bring up anything about our offensive line.
you didn't have do y'all know your offensive line ain't good they say they know your offensive line ain't good ocho
it's better than the broncos no it ain't it's not
did y'all win last week no we did not win ocho hey but you shouldn't be you shouldn't even be talking about football
you shouldn't be talking about football okay you got me you got me
Ben Johnson says Bears don't have championship caliber practice habits yet.
The Bears are 0-2 and on the NFL worst point differential, minus 34, which pretty much speaks for itself.
For Johnson, the problem stemmed from the part of bad preparation because his squad practiced bad habits
are yet to reflect a championship caliber team.
We should be going to football, finishing hard.
We talk about this all the time with offensive players that our fundamentals, our finish, our technique, then they show up and walk through.
That's you.
Let me finish this, Ocho.
They need to show up on the practice field.
That's how you show up on game day.
Simple things: how we properly block, how we catch the ball, how we block after the catch, ball security, things like that.
It's the little things that you learn in youth league football.
That even at this level, they make a huge difference.
When Mike first got there, 1995, Ocho, yeah,
put up there and said, this is what I expect.
You catch a pass, I don't care how far the pass is,
you finish 40 yards.
Okay?
He said, we do walkthroughs.
It's really not a walkthrough.
It's a jog through.
This is how we do.
We don't walk on the field.
We don't walk off the field.
We jog on, we jog off.
They thought Mike was bullshit.
They thought Mike was bulljoving.
Right, right, right.
After he started cutting a few people,
he got everybody on the body's attention.
Oh, yeah, absolutely.
And then,
you know, we win and everybody started to feel good, Ocho.
We go to walkthroughs, guys out there in Tim's
guys out there, guys out there in Tim's, guys out there in Uggs.
Hey, because Mike would be like, we'd be practicing right where I'm at, Mojo.
Mike would be down there like 20, 30 yards.
Yeah.
And he had his arms folded.
And he normally he either have his arms this, he normally has his hands in his pockets.
Anybody you played for the Broncos, or you, you're a reporter, you've been around him, you know, he's standing down there, he got his hands in his pocket.
That day,
here's arms, just like this here.
I'm like, man, who was that?
Who was that in them damn Tim?
That's what I wanted.
I was like, well, damn.
He ain't say nothing.
Because normally, you know,
he had a call sheet and he'll cool.
He'll like cool, which means he wants to see the first play again.
Cool.
Right.
He wants to see play number six again.
Ain't say nothing.
Let's laugh, Ocho.
So we run through it.
You know, we run through it.
to our offense defense come offense again defense might call it up
Just like, you know, because normally, when he calls everybody to get up, you know, we run up there on your ain't no dragging around.
We run up there like
he about to feed us the last supper or something.
We run up there, try to get a good, good old meal.
But anyway,
he paused, he don't say anything.
Then all of a sudden, he said, I don't know what the hell y'all think this is.
He said, this is real.
This is what you do.
This is what you get paid for.
Everybody's here
because I want you to be here.
And when we come out here,
we don't do things the right way sometimes.
We do things the right way all the time.
Now,
whomever I see
in them timbling boots and shower shoes and
uggs,
you won't be on this team no more.
But I, but, oh, you know how you know?
I say, man, man, come on, bro.
Just put on turf.
Ocho, remember, used to have turf shoes, ocho?
Because you have a little knocker.
Yes, yes.
I say, guys, if y'all not gonna work, please, just put those on so you could.
Right.
Ocho, how you a DB and got on got on Tim's?
Come on, come on, Ocho.
You a linebacker, you got on Tims.
You a wide receiver, you got on Tims.
Really?
It's walkthrough, though.
Walkthrough, it ain't no walkthrough.
Told you.
It ain't no walkthrough.
Ain't no walking.
I look like y'all.
Man, John throwing the ball 30 yards down the field.
How the hell are you going to do a walkthrough and you walking, and then he throwing the ball 30 yards?
Hey,
that's funny.
Man,
I bet you, I bet you ain't nobody else showed up with that bull jai.
Man, them guys were coming at it.
Oh, yo,
they got on the jeans.
They got on, then they try to get slick.
They have on sweats over their jeans.
When I try to tell them, man, it's sharp.
Okay.
Okay.
Okay.
You're right.
You're right.
I'm going to leave it alone.
You're right.
You're exactly right.
Dabo Sweeney defended his program, which started one and two during the heated news coverage saying, hey, listen, if Cliffson's tired of winning, they can send send me on my way.
But I'm going to go somewhere else and coach.
I ain't got to go to the beach.
Hell, I'm 55.
I got a long way to go.
Y'all are going to have to deal with me for a while.
All we've done is win.
We won the league eight out of the last 10 years.
Is that not good?
I'm just asking, is that not good to win your league eight out of 10 years?
Go to the playoffs seven out of 10 years, be in four national championships, win two, win it twice.
Yeah, we're going a little down right now, taking shots.
I've got a long memory we'll be all right we'll bounce back
um every every single season oh joe he every single season as a coach
every single season as a player you got to update your resume
every year you got to update your resume
So brother, Brother Davo talking about what they did in the past, as if it holds any weight today,
it's great for stories.
It's great
for conversation, barbershop topics.
It has no effect on the program of you being one and two.
I guarantee you they'll take his ass in Alabama right now.
You know he played wide receiver at Alabama.
Dabo, Dabo played Reshiva.
Okay.
It's that boy.
You know, northern South, they had a way of pronunciating thing.
It's that boy.
And
they thought they were saying Dabo.
Right.
Hence, Dabbo.
Oh, okay.
You know, we got away with words, Ocho.
Words, yeah, yeah, we do.
Yeah, look.
It happens.
I mean, no,
winning the league eight out of 10 years, it's great.
Being in four national championships and winning two is great.
Could have won three, could have lost.
I mean, the one you lost to Alabama the first year, you could have won that one.
The one you won, you could have have lost that one.
Uh, you wasn't beating LSU, they beat the breaks off y'all,
they beat the absolute breaks out of you.
Uh,
but nah, he uh now, Dabbo's a good coach.
You ain't, you ain't, there ain't very many coaches coaching right now better than Dabbo.
There ain't very many head coaches coaching right now, got a resume that's as impressive as his.
I, I, I know, uh, Ryan Day has been winning, um, Kirby's smart,
but you ain't going much further than that that you're taking over Dabo.
Right.
I'm just saying,
not his resume, not the amount of guys that he's put in the NFL, not the many times that he's, like he said, he's won the title, and, you know, he's been in the college football playoffs seven out of 10 years.
No, no, no, no.
Dabbo, Dabbo doing okay.
Like I said, fire.
I bet you Alabama hired him.
It'd be hired in 24 hours.
All right, Ocho, now it's time for our final segment of the evening.
It's time for Q and A.
Listen, I'm ready for tomorrow, huh?
Man, they're going to be the breaks up, y'all.
I forgot to tell you, too.
I forgot to tell you.
I know you don't like this kind of stuff.
Like,
you know, I love blues.
I love classical.
I'm an enthusiast for all the old school arts, man, from the 50s and the 60s and the 70s.
If you ever have a chance, just do me a small favor.
You know, take,
please, please go see the rat pack show at the Tuscany Hotel and Casino.
I know you're probably not in the Sinatra like I am in the Rat Pack and Dean Mart and Sammy.
Would I check it out?
I'm telling you, just, you got to see it one time.
You got to see it one time.
The guy who played Sammy David Jr., he told me to tell you, hello.
He told me to tell you he loves watching the show.
But
it was unbelievable.
Oh, Joe, you told me you're supposed to be going to the Grits Cafe.
What happened?
I went there every morning.
I went there every morning while I was there.
When matter of fact, hold on, listen to me.
Her name is Miss Trina.
Miss Trina is waiting on you.
I told her, I say, I say, Miss Trina, I done told him to come to the Grits Cafe over and over and over.
Trust me, he's gonna get here.
I don't know what time you wake up, but he's gonna come in.
Yeah, they're waiting on you.
You ain't even got to pay for nothing.
Boy, the food there is phenomenal.
You hear me, man?
please, boy.
Man.
Whatever.
No, I'm just saying, dang.
Ocho
ain't calling me, so I guess.
Listen, you're not, uncle, I'll be up at seven o'clock in the morning.
You ain't gonna, you ain't gonna get it that early.
I be up, right?
I get up.
Oh, Joe, most of the time I'm up at 6:30 walking titles.
I got to walk it before it gets hot.
Okay, okay, my bad.
And plus, I grew up at the end.
That's where I realized I grew up in, I grew up having to get up early.
Okay, well, you know, you know my routine, especially when I'm in Miami.
I'm up at five o'clock i'm at i'm at the gym at six boom seven o'clock i'm eating breakfast wherever i'm eating it at i mean you know but you you you got to hit grits cafe i need you to hit that i need you to try soul food cafe which is right on rainbow boulevard nice soul food yeah fish and grits and
and then i know what it is just
hey one one night
just please go see the rat pack show at the tuscany hotel and casino that that's all i ask of you matter of fact that's your homegrown matter of of fact, I ain't paying you until you go see it.
How about that?
This man Trey, he ain't gonna pay me.
He's gonna put demands on which he paid me back my money.
No, listen, because I want you to be able to experience what I was able to experience last night.
Unbelievable.
I mean, see, you're not really into that kind of music like I am, but until you experience it and be like, oh, this is what it was like back then in the 60s with Sammy Davis and Dean Martin and the chemistry, the fan engagement.
I want uh
I paid like $5,900.
I could experience it.
I could really experience it.
No,
I'm a call up there.
I'm gonna pay for the tickets.
No, no, no, no, no.
I need $5,900 in my pocket.
I got you.
Hey, what's your Apple Pay?
I get you.
I'll send it to you right now.
You see?
You see?
I got an Apple Pay bag.
You don't want it.
PayPal, they got all these apps.
If you really want to pay, can you send that much money on Apple Pay and stuff?
Yes.
The limit is $7,500.
I ain't no.
Yeah.
Yeah, there it is.
See, see?
Shelly got it.
Shelly got Vimmo.
And I think Apple.
Nah, she got Vimmo and Zale.
Okay, I can sell it to her.
Tell her, just send me the number.
All right, Kepper Norwood Jr.
said,
my question is, what are your top four Super Bowl party snacks?
I think you got to have like
chips got to be number one, Ocho.
You got to have chips.
Yeah,
of course, of course.
Doritos.
Dorito.
Doritos.
Any chip related.
Fritos, Doritos,
potato chips.
Those.
One of
that.
Queso?
You got to have some queso, Ocho?
What the hell is queso?
Like cheese, the cheese with ground beef in it.
Y'all, you don't have that?
I don't know about no queso.
I ain't never had no queso.
What else?
Uh,
wings?
Uh, yeah, wings, wings.
That's that's a good question.
I ain't been to a Super Bowl party in so long.
Hell, when it's a Super Bowl, I'm at the damn Super Bowl.
I don't have Super Bowl parties.
Because guess what?
Who you for?
You ain't for my team, you can't come over.
You ain't finna be jumping them cheering to my house.
Just take cheer in your own damn house.
Hey, who you for, man?
I'm for such and so.
Okay, come on over.
Ain't nobody cheering.
You're not finna be in my ear.
Your team winning because I'm put you out.
Right.
See, I don't like Super Bowl parties for the simple fact that all the drinking and the noise and the party, I like to actually watch the game.
I like to see everything unfold when it's nice and quiet.
I like to hear the announcers.
I like to see.
No,
man.
And they get mad.
Man, shop, you turn it on.
No.
You can't hear at the bar.
When you go to the bar, you can't hear them games.
It's so much noise going on, you don't hear nothing.
Now you want to come over here and pretend like, huh?
You listen to the Super Bowl with no sound?
God damn.
Oh, Joe.
I haven't heard.
I have.
The only thing I listen to with the sound, the only thing I listen to with the sound is track and field.
I don't listen to basketball games.
I don't listen to football games.
Oh, Joe, I find myself,
man, watching watching TV.
It's like,
closed caption, good for me.
It's them happened so much, Ocho.
I mean, I don't even, I wouldn't even know.
The only thing I listen to with the sound is tracking feel.
Because I get so excited to hear them call the game.
They call it Van Auto Bowl and Sonia Richard Ross.
Man, Tom Hammonds used to be my favorite.
The new guy they got now, I love him too.
Tom Hammond was amazing.
But that's the only thing.
I don't watch, I don't listen to any, I don't listen to any sporting event with Sound.
So
I'm trying to think.
So is Wing, so Wings, Wings got to be one hot.
Oh, Joe, I know you got hot dogs at your Super Bowl party.
Oh, you know, hey, listen, I like my hot dogs now.
If you have anything and you want me to show up, have some damn hot dogs.
I don't need no condominium.
I pay chips.
I'm trying to think.
The last time I had an event,
I mean,
it was,
man, I might have been,
ooh,
it's probably been about 15 years.
Yeah.
Chips, wings.
I don't know.
I just, I don't know, Pete, I just, I just get a bunch.
I just say, Shelly, get a bunch of stuff that you think people would like.
Right.
They don't like it.
It's going to the trash.
So
nothing, A.
You're eating on paper.
So don't be asking me, A, man, where the plate's at.
Right there.
Yeah.
Ain't nobody watching no kids.
We're the same.
See, see, we the same.
I live like that 365.
Oh, yeah,
I don't eat out nothing.
I don't eat out nothing.
My kids come here.
I need a cup.
We'll go to the red solo cup right there.
Hey, them Dixie, them Dixie plastic plates, they right there.
We don't have no silverware.
I got all plastic, everything, plastic forks, spoons, and knives.
Man, Ocho,
when I moved to LA,
I had two forks, two spoons, and a knife.
That's all you need.
That's all you need.
When I moved to Vegas, they left everything.
When they say, Ocho, the house as is,
Ocho, the only thing they took were their clothes out of the closet.
They left towels.
They left linen.
They left wine.
They left beer.
They left utensils.
They took nothing.
They left cases of water.
When I say they didn't take anything,
they didn't take anything.
If I didn't know, they might be in witness protection.
They somebody hiding from somebody because they were gone.
Find out say, Ugh, nocho, what career would you rather have winning two rings as a practice squad player or making the hall of fame and having no rings?
Making the hall of fame.
Oh, damn, practice squad.
Man, come on.
You that kind of question.
I mean, you gotta, you gotta say, okay, be a good player and win two rings or make the hall of fame.
A practice squad, oh, you didn't get to play in the games.
You just got that shit.
Hell no,
Aaron Jones, with that Vegas reference, you're proving that the players know two,
so why is it a big deal?
Tom isn't in any other private practices.
You're missing the point.
He's talking to coaches.
You think any of the coaches that potentially might play the Raiders?
We got a different of opinions.
It's okay, Aaron.
Ephraim Rogers says, nice jacket, Ocho.
Look like it's worth $5,900.
Salute, gentlemen.
Keep going.
Y'all see that?
Chat?
Chat.
Hey, now.
This man on Broadway.
This man really played in my face, y'all.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.
The Louis Vuitton stuff
you seeing me wear as of recent.
And because I'm trying to get a brand deal with Louis Vuitton,
this ain't nothing like that.
See,
my baby bought me this.
She bought me the little set.
You got got a little pants too i know i know it's a track outfit
yeah you know see that what well have your baby to pay me my money i'll take her i'll take i'll take 5900 from her you see
if i
hold on it's it's it's i gotta pay child support it's end of the month okay
nah you play child support at the beginning of the month Well, nah, Mike, listen, those I have kids from,
we negotiated and I pay on the on the back end of the month.
Okay.
But how you have your baby break me off my money?
5900.
She watching.
I'm going to ask her.
Baby, send Unk that $5,900.
J-W.
Akron, I know Ocho ain't all here trying to make bets.
You still owe me a jersey from last year.
Steelers wear.
Break bread, Ocho, or break the jersey.
Hold on, hold on, hold on, time out, time out, time out.
Listen, I love my Steelers fans.
I love y'all.
And, you know,
I've always shown respect and grace.
I don't remember making that bet.
I, I, I, I swear, I surely don't.
Did we shake on it?
No, like we ain't shake on that.
That really ain't no bet,
man.
Ocho, we just gonna go around here just owe it to everybody.
I don't owe nobody nothing.
Only only
people I owe right now is the IRS.
That's it.
You owe me $5,900.
Well, you might have to talk to Uncle Sam first.
I'm gonna have to garnish your wages, Ocho.
I'm sorry.
I'm about to mess your credit up.
That's what I gotta do.
I guess God garnish your wages.
Chad, should I garnish Ocho wages?
I mean, the man ain't gonna pay me my money, Chad.
He ain't gonna pay.
He just won't do right.
I promise, I told you, listen, go see the Rat Pack show in Vegas.
I'm gonna pay you as soon as you tell me how it was.
Can I go see another show?
No, you got to see that one.
I'm telling you, what if I go tell you?
no?
No,
come on, we're talking about rat pack, Frank Sinatra, Blue Man.
If you're the Frank Sinatra fan, I'm going to go see the Michael Jackson play then.
No, man,
you don't understand.
See, you don't understand until you.
All right, I'm going to give you for comparison and better context for today.
The Rat Pack,
that show is equivalent to going to a Chris Brown show,
going to see Beyonce.
That's exactly how you do play.
Oh, Lord,
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, I'm giving you the comparison of what it was like in the 50s and 60s.
The rat pack was equivalent to Beyonce and Chris Brown back then.
Stage presence, engaging.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I thought you said, okay.
Making you feel a part of the show.
I mean, I've seen it.
You know, they talking.
They say,
smoking the cigarettes.
I get it.
Yes, yes.
And they do all that.
They do everything.
It's like you back in the 60s.
Go check.
Just check it out for me, man.
Please.
Please.
They waiting on you.
Tino Davis said, my birthday is tonight at midnight.
Focho, I want a jersey.
Tino, happy birthday.
I don't know about that jersey.
He's going to make promises, but you're probably not going to get it.
But anyway, happy birthday.
Enjoy today.
Do something fun.
Another year around the sun, man.
And make sure.
Happy birthday.
Make sure
you tell the man thank you for allowing you to see another one.
Oh, yeah,
big church said someone had too much Laporte to drink tonight.
Take away the bottle,
bro.
Y'all actually think I get on here drunk.
Y'all actually think I would, I would go show up to the job.
Come on now.
I would, I don't show up on that man's job drunk.
What makes you think I'm gonna show up on my own at my own place drunk?
Come on now.
Well, y'all, but you know what, Ocho.
Now,
Saturday, he was at the fight.
I confronted Stephen A.
Not what they said online.
That was a simple conversation,
a funny conversation because they could see me sitting there laughing my ass off.
Stephen A.
Did you hear Stephen A?
Did you hear what Stephen A said about it?
Nah.
What did I tell Stephen A?
What did he, Stephen A, told y'all I said to him?
You asked me?
I can't remember.
I asked him.
I said, you told me that when I saw you again, you're going to have a six-pack.
He said, man,
I gained 187 because I was, I said, that ain't no six-pack, Stephen A.
That ain't no six-pack.
He said,
I don't put on 15, I think he said 15 pounds.
He said, man, he said, you know, I'm back to eat my.
my crunch berries and something else.
I say, see, that ain't what you told me.
See, I ain't there to keep you.
I ain't there to hold you accountable.
It wasn't no confrontation.
What about confronting Stephen A about?
Yeah, it was so funny.
I posted us all talking.
Mrs., but I put the song We Are One by Frankie Definitely Mays.
Like, I don't know.
It's just a
good moment.
I said,
How did you come to the?
Well, you know, they're going to make up their own conclusions.
That's all.
That's all.
You pay that no man, child.
I talked to Stephen A on the phone.
I mean,
I talked to him.
So there would be no need to confront him if
we talk on the phone, which we still do.
Yeah.
Why do y'all want drama?
Why do y'all want me to?
So what would I confront Stephen A about?
I'm just, that's what I mean.
I need somebody to tell me what I'm going to confront him about.
Nothing.
Nothing.
Pause it.
You know,
the media are going to run with that.
They're going to create their own little narrative.
You know how that goes.
You know.
One guy say, you know, he can't read lips, but he can read body language.
Boy, boy, boy.
Must love cash.
Super Bowl party.
Nightcap live at Ocho's house.
I bring plastic cups, mustard put by Glizzy.
Yeah.
We have it right down there in that white room.
Oh, absolutely not.
Absolutely not.
And I need red Kool-Aid.
Absolutely not.
But when I take, well, everything in here is white.
Everything.
Ain't nobody coming in.
But
my kids got to come here.
They take the shoes off.
They can't touch nothing.
Don't sit on nothing.
Go straight to your room.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like my grandma was back with me.
Don't you sit on that couch.
I say, why can't you sit on the couch and you got plastic over it?
Yep, that ain't for you to sit on.
Man, man, go to your room.
As Stroud said, Ocho likes hot dogs without the bun.
Damn, Ocho.
Why would I not?
Without the bun, it wouldn't be a hot dog.
That makes no sense.
I don't like no condiments on my hot dog.
I like my hot dog with the bun.
The bun slightly warmed up a little bit, squeeze it together, and you eat it.
Sometimes, if it's people around me, I break off a piece, juggle it like dice,
pop it in.
So it's still, so I still look cool.
I'm gonna let you have that one, Ocho.
I just want you to know
next year this time, you're not gonna be able to say that, okay?
You know, I got, I got, you know what I'm saying?
I got
what?
I ain't say nothing.
You know, next year this time, I'll be though,
I'll be be on probation.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
Okay.
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Congratulations, Sidney McLaughlin on the new American record in the 400 meters.
Cordell Tinch, congratulations, 1299, world champ.
And Katie Moon,
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Povault, world champ.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you for your
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