Nightcap Hour 2: Unc & Ocho react to Ben Johnson saying they need to practice better + Dabo Sweeney defends his program

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to Lions offensive coordinator Ben Johnson stressing the importance of sharper practice habits after a slow start to the season. Later, they break down Clemson head coach Dabo Swinney’s passionate defense of his program and respond to critics questioning the Tigers’ direction and we break down the Track & Field medalist and much more!

0:00 - Sydney McLaughlin-Levrone dominated 400-meter semifinals
10:44 - Medalists from Track & Field 
22:11 - NFL feels Aaron Rodgers more comfortable with the Steelers
25:50 - Kirk Cousins retiring soon?
28:10 - Ben Johnson on Bears practice
33:40 - Dabo Swinney defends his Clemson program
36:45 - Q & Ayyyy

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Speaker 15 after nearly two decades 19 years sonia richards ross held the american record in the 400 meter at a time of 48.70. On the exact same day,

Speaker 15 19 years ago, 19 years later, Sidney McLaughlin took it down. In the semifinals of the World Track and Field Championship, McLaughlin clocked 4829.

Speaker 15 I think that's off ashes, the seventh fastest time in history, not the 11th, but it is the fastest time by an American. She took 0.41 seconds off the American record.

Speaker 15 Sid says she was shocked at the performance, saying she wasn't expecting that.

Speaker 15 that's a blistering time and she backed it down at the end um yeah

Speaker 15 maybe i'm the only one alive that remember when mattarina coke uh set the world record of 4760.

Speaker 15 there have only been two women that's ever cracked sub 48 krachalova who's a 800 meter runner ocho uh she ran 4890 she ran uh 47.99

Speaker 15 and then coke ended up running 4760. And if I'm not mistaken, I think she ran it from lane two.
Now,

Speaker 15 NASA has been down there. I think she's 48.11.
I think Paulino, who's actually in this race, I think she's run like 48-17.

Speaker 15 Marie Jose Perrette, the French lady, she's back-to-back Olympic champ.

Speaker 15 She also won the 200 in Atlanta. She won the four and the two.

Speaker 15 I'm trying to think who else has been a low time. They had this Russian, Brazina.

Speaker 15 She ran on the

Speaker 15 88 team. I think she was the one that helped Flojo off, if I'm not mistaken, Ojo.
My memory serves me correctly.

Speaker 15 They've been a few,

Speaker 15 Kathy Freeman.

Speaker 15 There have been some great 400-meter runners, Valerie Briscoe, Hook, Kathy Freeman, Perek, Nasser, Paulino, Coke, Krachalova, but Sydney McLaughlin. And she said something very interesting.

Speaker 15 She said, look, let somebody go up under 48 before we start talking about 4760. Because I don't think, I don't think understand what people understand.

Speaker 15 Just how fast that is for a woman. That's booking.

Speaker 15 You literally,

Speaker 15 you're going to probably have to go out in 22 seconds

Speaker 15 and come home in

Speaker 15 25, 25, 5.

Speaker 15 Let that sink in. Because normally they're going out in 23 and try to come home in 25.
She's going to have to go out in 22 and come home in 25 and a half.

Speaker 15 She's got the people in the race that could push her. Nasser takes the pace out.
Paulino liked the track.

Speaker 15 She played with fire there and almost didn't make it. But we'll see what her look.

Speaker 15 Sydney's fitness is impeccable.

Speaker 15 I believe it's going to take low 48, 48.0,

Speaker 15 or they might have to dip under 48 in order for her to win this gold medal. Yeah.

Speaker 16 When is that race?

Speaker 15 Well, i think it's today already over there well today well it'll be it'll be

Speaker 15 today for us tomorrow for us because i think they're a day ahead of us

Speaker 15 yeah so it'll be thursday so it'll be friday for them so they're yeah

Speaker 15 i mean

Speaker 15 man and she told lewis she wasn't expecting that because uh you know normally ocho you i'm doing just enough to win to qualify, get the third lane.

Speaker 15 And then now in the finals, I can drop the hammer. But to run 48.29 and take 4-1.41

Speaker 15 off the American record,

Speaker 15 she was cruising, don't you? She was cruising.

Speaker 15 She was cruising. And see, this is why

Speaker 15 Femke, Bo, the Dutch runner, can't beat in the hurdles. She ain't got the foot speed.

Speaker 15 She had the foot speed.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 15 I mean, what you gonna do? What were you gonna do with someone that can

Speaker 15 can run 48 seconds?

Speaker 15 I mean, it's going to be very impressive. If she abandoned

Speaker 15 the hurdles and sets her sight in 28 and the 0-4

Speaker 15 and she gets the world record

Speaker 15 in the four and the hurdles.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Lord.

Speaker 15 Because

Speaker 15 I didn't think in my lifetime I would see somebody get this coach record. This 40 record is 40 years old.

Speaker 15 I thought that, that, oh, I mean, nobody's come close. There's only been two women in the history that's ever run sub 48.
So, what made, and nobody's come close like

Speaker 15 NASA ran 48-11, but she got popped.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 15 So, like, uh,

Speaker 15 um,

Speaker 15 Peret,

Speaker 15 when she ran, when she ran

Speaker 15 the French runner, when she's a double 400, there ain't been a whole lot of women to double up. I think

Speaker 15 Shawnee Milawibo, I think she doubled up also.

Speaker 15 But Ocho, that's booking.

Speaker 15 That is booking.

Speaker 16 Very. And I think people really don't understand how fast it is.

Speaker 16 And in reference to you saying booking, unless you watch track, unless you know track and understand.

Speaker 15 Or you ran track and realized how hard it is to run,

Speaker 15 how hard it is to run a 50-second lap, unless that's a special

Speaker 15 to run 49

Speaker 15 to run 48 for a woman?

Speaker 15 Yeah. And then we talk about 47.

Speaker 15 If C and break this world record, that record might be like Boat. You might have to go three, four, five, about three generations before you see somebody break that record.

Speaker 16 Well, somebody see break it again.

Speaker 15 Because I think that's what's going to happen with Boat. Because

Speaker 15 we haven't seen anybody come close. The closest anybody's ever come was Tyson Gay and Johan Blake at 968.

Speaker 15 He was at 958.

Speaker 15 Hey,

Speaker 16 well, a boat was moving in that room.

Speaker 15 I still believe, Ocho, had he not celebrated Beijing.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 16 Hitting his chest.

Speaker 15 He's low 950. He might even go sub 950.

Speaker 15 He broke the moment. Guys, he's light years in front of everybody.
I just, I just, I just wish he, I just wish, but he was so happy to understand the moment. I just wish he had ran through the tape.

Speaker 15 I just wish he'd ran through the tape because that time would have never been broken. Nobody's ever, you're going to have to be on a motorcycle or have a hurricane behind you.

Speaker 15 That's the one or two things. You on a motorcycle or you got a hurricane behind you.
One of them.

Speaker 15 That's it.

Speaker 15 But Sid,

Speaker 15 she's in phenomenal shape.

Speaker 15 And I think it's going to take a special time. I think it's going to be 48-0

Speaker 15 or sub.

Speaker 15 I think the world record's safe. Me personally, I think the world world record is safe.
But I do think 48-0

Speaker 15 or maybe a tick under 48 is doable.

Speaker 15 I think it's doable. And then I think

Speaker 15 over the next, you know, could she possibly double?

Speaker 15 They're going to have to set the schedule like they did for Michael Johnson.

Speaker 15 Valerie Briscoe Hooks, I forgot about Valerie Briscoe Hooks. I forgot.
She was a great,

Speaker 15 she was the first person to pull the double to 4-2, and she did it in 84.

Speaker 15 So we've had Chandra Cheeseboro, we've had some great runners in the 400.

Speaker 16 But hold on, we got a great 400 runner right now in the family.

Speaker 15 Oh, your daughter?

Speaker 15 Yeah, Raya. Yeah, I hope, I hope you're watching.

Speaker 16 You see what Sid doing?

Speaker 15 She had, you know,

Speaker 15 Kentucky.

Speaker 15 Oh, your daughter runs for Kentucky too?

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 16 Yeah, she up there. Yeah, she had been in Kentucky.
Yeah, yeah. She better be watching.

Speaker 15 I think the head coach when Sid went with Edric Floral, I think he's at University of Texas now.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah. I think so.

Speaker 15 I think, if I'm not mistaken, I think he's at the U. I think he's at UT now.
But Sid's booking,

Speaker 15 Ash, it's the seventh fastest, not the 11th fastest, correct?

Speaker 15 It's the 11th fastest?

Speaker 15 Nah.

Speaker 15 Mm-mm. I'm going to disagree.

Speaker 15 Because 47.60, 47.99, 48.14, 48.17, 48.25, Marie-Jose Perette, 48.27, Olga Brzinka, and Sidney McLaughlin, number seven at 48.29. So I don't know where they get this from.

Speaker 15 The 11th fastest time is by Kathy Freeman, 48.63

Speaker 15 at the Olympics in Atlanta.

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 we're going to disagree with we're going to disagree with USA Today or USA Tracking Field.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Oh, I would disagree.

Speaker 15 The 11th fastest, hold up. They say it's the 11th fastest time in history.
How?

Speaker 15 Pull it up. Pull it up.
Pull it up, Ash, right quick. Google it.

Speaker 15 Because something ain't adding up. I hope they ain't threw men in there.

Speaker 15 Oh, oh, oh, okay. So, what they're doing is she ran more than one time under the time, under Sears time.
They're counting that.

Speaker 15 Okay, okay. So, I was just,

Speaker 15 wow.

Speaker 15 Yeah, but look, I'm going to leave that alone because we know what the

Speaker 15 system that the East Germans and the old old Soviet had in place. But let's leave that alone.
Hey, she ran the time, it got ratified.

Speaker 15 Hey, we'll leave that alone, Ocho.

Speaker 15 Okay, okay.

Speaker 15 The 11th fastest time, the seventh fastest person because Coke ran two, she ran 4816 twice, and she ran 48.22.

Speaker 15 So she got four of the top, four of the top fast, seven times

Speaker 15 in the country.

Speaker 15 Gold medal in the 110-meter hurt.

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Speaker 15 Grant Holloway's trying to four-peat Ocho has come to an end. Cordell Tinch.
Who did I say, MJ? Who did I tell I got Cordell Tench?

Speaker 15 Ran $12.99. Orlando Bennett, Jamaica, $13.08.
Tyler Mason, Jamaica, 1312.

Speaker 15 Richard,

Speaker 15 the Japanese runner, ran 13.18. Jacoby Tharpe ran 1331.

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 it stays in the house.

Speaker 15 It ain't the same person, but it's in the USA.

Speaker 15 Hold on, what? Flamingo, what place he came? He didn't make it to the finals. It's been a rough year.
I don't know if he's injured.

Speaker 15 I don't know what he's dealing with, but he didn't even make the finals.

Speaker 15 Yep, he was a three-time world champ three consecutive times, and he didn't make the finals.

Speaker 15 Yep.

Speaker 15 And the 1500 meters, Isaac Nader, Portugal, 334.10. Jake Reitman, Great Britain, 334.12.
Reynolds Chariot, Kenya, 334.25. Timothy Chariot, Kenya, 334.50.
Neil Larios, the Netherlands, 334.52.

Speaker 15 Robert Farkin, Germany, 335.

Speaker 15 Josh Kerr was getting Inger Britson.

Speaker 15 I don't know what happened to him, but he didn't make it.

Speaker 15 Cole Hawker got disqualified for jostling. And Josh Kerr, the reigning world champ, he dealt with a foot.
He was dealing with a calf injury or something.

Speaker 15 He finished 14th and he didn't make it to the finals.

Speaker 15 Men's long jump, the girl, the goal went to Forlani of Italy, 839 meters, beat Carl Lewis at the record as the youngest long jump world champ in history. To Tajay Gale, Jamaica, 834.

Speaker 15 Shi Yoha, China, 833.

Speaker 15 So, damn. And the pole ball, Mondo Duplantis, a new world record, Ocho, six meters, 30.

Speaker 15 He breaks the world record for the 14th time.

Speaker 16 Hey, that's that's crazy because you know I used to pole bowl now.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 damn.

Speaker 15 Manolo,

Speaker 16 Carolis, what was the record?

Speaker 15 630 meters. That's over 20 feet.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 16 Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did about 17 feet.
Boy, my junior year.

Speaker 15 The former world record holder, Renee Lavalani,

Speaker 15 was in last place. He was in eighth place at five meters 75.
He's the former world record holder. And Sam Kendricks of the U.S., 595,

Speaker 15 finished just, just,

Speaker 15 just off the podium.

Speaker 15 Dang.

Speaker 16 Boy, I remember them days, boy.

Speaker 15 I was scared to pull it.

Speaker 15 And the shot putt, Ryan Krauser in his first meet, he's been dealing with an elbow injury this entire season, but he came in and when he needed to be great, he was 22 meters, 34

Speaker 15 for gold.

Speaker 15 Munez, Mexico, 2197, silver. Leonardo

Speaker 15 Fabri, Italy, 2194.

Speaker 15 Tom Walsh of the Netherlands, excuse me, New Zealand, excuse me. He was 2194.

Speaker 15 But we.

Speaker 15 But it's unbelievable what Kraus was able to do. I mean, just think about Ocho.
The first time he threw the shot in competition was at the World Championship. Yeah.

Speaker 15 And he uncorks 122 meters and 34 on his fifth throw.

Speaker 15 The greatest shot putter. uh uh in the history uh he won three consecutive world championships he's won three consecutive gold medals.
Obviously, he's getting good gear up.

Speaker 15 Probably, I don't know what you do. They only got the USA's next year, and then they got the world championships in 27, and then you got the

Speaker 15 Olympics in 28. He's relocating.
His wife's a doctor. He's moving to Nashville.
I think she got a job at Vanderbilt. I think they're relocating from Texas or Oregon.
Yes.

Speaker 16 They didn't force you when you was in high school to run track. I ran track.

Speaker 16 So

Speaker 16 you ain't do the feel of it?

Speaker 15 I did. I was a triple jumper, long jump through the discus.

Speaker 16 Okay,

Speaker 16 I did shot putting. I did pobo.
I ran 4x1, 4x4, 100, 200. I ran the 1500.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I won the, I'm a three-time state champ in the triple jump. I won the best performance trophy, the farthest jump in the state meet, my senior year.

Speaker 15 I won the high point trophy, the most points accumulated in the state track meet, in the state track meet

Speaker 15 in my classification. My junior year.
Yeah, I ran ran track ojo i was pretty good got recruited by a lot of schools

Speaker 16 i still i still got my technique your legs too close together

Speaker 16 all right i like no my furniture white i can't kick my furniture man

Speaker 15 but uh congratulations to all the winners ryan kraus a gold medal yes uh

Speaker 15 and Cordell Tinch.

Speaker 15 Unbelievable.

Speaker 15 We keep the gold here. We go keep that gold medal here.
Hey, don't think I didn't see what y'all said, Jamaica, but we're about to get that gold medal. We're about to get gold and silver in the 200.

Speaker 16 Let him know. Talk to him.

Speaker 15 Y'all be talking.

Speaker 15 Y'all make it seem like the Olympics just inserted 100 meters in 2008

Speaker 15 when USA burst

Speaker 15 on the scene. Now, I'm not going to take anything from him.
He's the greatest sprinter to ever live.

Speaker 15 Facts. Not going to take anything from him.

Speaker 15 But when it comes to sprinting, and it's incredible what the Jamaicans have been able to do when you look at Ocho, a country that size, you're talking about,

Speaker 15 you know, what, four million people?

Speaker 15 Yeah, if that. Yeah.
And to have the greatest, I mean, and some of the women. I mean, you look at Shelly Ann Frazier.
I mean, they've always had Merlin Audi.

Speaker 15 She never won gold, but she was always silver, bronze on the Olympics and the world championships. So they've had good, good sprinters.

Speaker 15 VCB, Veronica Camber Brown, Sharon Stewart.

Speaker 15 They've had great women sprinters. So don't get me wrong.
I don't want to say anything. But

Speaker 15 y'all know what time it is, right? Y'all know what time it is today.

Speaker 15 So if you go back and look at the world championships, I'm saying the last 15, 20 years, I mean, we right there.

Speaker 15 I know y'all think the Jamaicans, you know, been running phase, but go back and look at it. Go back and look it up.

Speaker 15 I know y'all only only go back to 2008 because you sane, and I get all that, but you know, the Olympics, the modern Olympics, is 130 years old.

Speaker 15 They first instituted the Olympics, the modern Olympics, in 1896.

Speaker 15 I'm just, you know,

Speaker 15 I just say it.

Speaker 15 If you look at it, if you look at it,

Speaker 15 gold medal in the Olympics, gold medal in the world championships.

Speaker 15 I feel very comfortable.

Speaker 15 Do y'all have the greatest male

Speaker 15 and female woman sprinter of all time? Yes, you saying is the greatest, is the greatest male sprinter. He's the greatest sprinter.
Woman sprinter is Shelly Brazier Price.

Speaker 16 Absolutely.

Speaker 15 I'm not arguing that.

Speaker 15 I'm not. I'm not.
I'm not arguing that. Shelly Ann is unbelievable.

Speaker 15 I mean, five world championships, two Olympic goals,

Speaker 15 a 200-meter championship, two 4x1 championships. What's the argument? She's the greatest.
You say, I don't even have to say anything.

Speaker 15 I don't need to say, hey, you just say, you say, both, the greatest sprinter ever.

Speaker 15 Shelly Ann is the greatest woman sprinter ever.

Speaker 15 But, you know, we're going to see what we're going to see.

Speaker 15 We're going to try to make it. We're going to make it two for two.

Speaker 15 steaks. Yeah, hey, MJ got this.

Speaker 15 Yeah, and y'all already know Noah

Speaker 15 got something for y'all.

Speaker 15 Oblique, go see Noah in the 200. Chris Shane, go see him in the 200.
Y'all want some, y'all want smoke?

Speaker 15 Yeah,

Speaker 16 all my fellow Jamaicans, you know, I love you. Yeah,

Speaker 15 I love you.

Speaker 16 Every last one of you is going to be.

Speaker 15 I get them Jamaican oxtails at least once a month.

Speaker 15 Huh? Yeah.

Speaker 15 What go on?

Speaker 15 Yeah. But y'all be that be talking reckless, man.
Look, I tell you, it ain't no upset. It is an upset.

Speaker 15 First of all, it is an upset because Noah was the reigning Olympic and world champ. What do you mean it wasn't an upset?

Speaker 15 It is. If you beat the champ,

Speaker 15 It's an upset. I'm not saying the oblique hadn't been running well.

Speaker 15 been. Noah hadn't had a whole lot.
He was dealing with some injuries. That's what he said.
He didn't run a whole lot. Didn't run a whole lot of 100 meters.
Didn't run a whole lot.

Speaker 15 And he's, he's taught himself. He's a 200-meter specialist, like Usain, that taught himself how to be a good 100-meter runner, Ocho.

Speaker 15 But I gave Seville and Thompson the credit. They're going to go to Simply.
They did. They beat him.

Speaker 15 But I'm worried.

Speaker 16 I'm worried about this 200. Why? Look.

Speaker 15 I'm waiting on this. He seems to be fit.
So it should look.

Speaker 15 We know about Noah. We know about Beneric.
We know about Tobogo.

Speaker 15 I don't know if anybody else can really challenge those three.

Speaker 15 Noah seems to be as he's run

Speaker 15 and he had to run rounds. He's kind of run himself

Speaker 15 conditioned to where he needs to be because there's nothing like racing. You can go there and practice all you want to, but you got to race.

Speaker 15 You got to get your body conditioned to run those four rounds.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 I like Noah Chances. We'll see.

Speaker 15 I love it. Now, I don't like it.

Speaker 15 I love it. I love his chances.
Yes. And if he doesn't win, it's going to be an upset.

Speaker 15 It is.

Speaker 15 I know Tobogo, but I mean, you talk about a guy that's won, what, three

Speaker 15 world championships.

Speaker 15 And everybody that's in this race, he has the fastest time. He's run 1931.

Speaker 15 He has the fastest time this year in 1963. Bigneric is close behind him in 1967.
And then Tobogo is at, what, 1976. We know Tobogo has run night, I think he ran 1941, 1943 at the Olympics.
So we know

Speaker 15 Tobogo can run. We know he has 200-meter capabilities.
He got DQ'd out of the 100-meters, but it's going to be interesting to see.

Speaker 15 God don't know it. Who wants to best something on it? Put something on it.

Speaker 15 Uh-oh.

Speaker 15 What y'all got, Jamaicas? What y'all want to put on this?

Speaker 15 What y'all want to put on it? Better out of yourself.

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Speaker 15 I'm taking Noah.

Speaker 15 We getting gold and silver. We're going to pay y'all ass back.

Speaker 15 Y'all took gold and silver in the 100. We're finna take gold and silver into 200.
That's what we're about to do, Ocho.

Speaker 15 That's what we're about to do. What we got next? What we got next?

Speaker 15 Ocho, one NFL Scout feel Aaron Rodgers looked more comfortable with the Steelers than he did during his camp final campaign with the Jets.

Speaker 15 AFC Scout told ESP and Jeremy Fowler that Rogers' week five game with the Jets last season in London marked six to eight weeks of absolute zero mobility due to injury.

Speaker 15 He was compromised and it showed. But just being a year removed from an Achilles tear, he seems a little bit more secure and a little less hesitant compared to a year ago.

Speaker 15 After week two loss, Rogers said he believed he's moving a little bit better than in the season opener. Look, first of all, he's about to be 41 and he's coming off an Achilles injury.
I mean,

Speaker 15 it wasn't like he was Michael Vick. or Lamar Jackson to begin with.
But as you age and you got that, that's that's a significant injury, Ocho. That used to be a death sentence.
You got that injury.

Speaker 16 Absolutely.

Speaker 15 Not a career ender.

Speaker 15 Put it like that. So, but for him to still be able to like,

Speaker 15 he can buy time, Ocho. He was never.
Yeah.

Speaker 15 He was athletic enough to get out of harm's way and be able to move. He doesn't move with the ease that he once did, but he still he can make, he can move well enough to make plays.

Speaker 15 And yes,

Speaker 15 is the year after the surgery, but it's the year after that, Ocho. So last year was that first year.
But that next year after,

Speaker 15 you get a little bit of that. Now, see, Adrian Peterson spoiled us

Speaker 15 because we saw a guy get his tears knee up in December and then come back to the following September. And he's like, ain't up, man.
They lied.

Speaker 15 He won 2097, won the MVP. I'll be the player.
Yes. So he got people spoiled that have a significant injury and come back.
And it wasn't the year after,

Speaker 15 it was the very year after. It wasn't the year after the year.
It was that next season. And he did that.

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 but I think the thing is that with Rodgers,

Speaker 15 if you go back and look at him, Ocho, the game that he played really well, Jacksonville and Miami late in the season.

Speaker 15 It's warm weather. We'll see when the temperature starts to get cold, and it will in Pittsburgh.

Speaker 15 And the temperature will get cold in where ocho cincinnati and it will get cold in baltimore and you know as we get to old there's a reason why people move to as people start to age they move to arizona they move to florida they're not trying to be in no damn cold weather cities ocho because them like my grandma said these old booms ain't what they used to be

Speaker 16 yeah i mean even though even though he's not what he used to be um he's coming from the coldest weather city where he plays football.

Speaker 16 And then being in Pittsburgh, it gets cold, but we talk about, you know, 30, 40. That's cold.
You were playing below zero.

Speaker 16 Below zero at times. So I think he's going to fare.
He's going to be okay, especially a year and a year removed from that surgery.

Speaker 16 He's going to be all right, especially with the scout is saying about him looking a little more calm, a little bit more comfortable in the pop, especially when he's having to extend plays.

Speaker 16 You know, he's going to be all right.

Speaker 15 He's going to be all right.

Speaker 15 Ocho says he's going to be all right.

Speaker 15 Ojo, Atlanta Falcons backup, Kirk Cousins, isn't unanimously viewed as an impact or contributor under center within the league, according to NFL insider James Palmer.

Speaker 15 There were some people around the league that I talked to think Kirk Cousins is essentially done. Nah, he's still collecting the check.
He's still got somebody.

Speaker 15 Dana Rossini reported that the Falcons don't have any immediate plans to trade Cousins, despite several injuries to starting quarterbacks on opposing teams.

Speaker 15 I think if somebody reached out to me, don't hate.

Speaker 16 Don't hate hate Atlanta. Don't hate because what you can, what you could do, listen, I'm not Mike Brown, I'm not Katie Blackburn, I'm not Troy Blackburn, I'm not Duke Tobin.

Speaker 16 But I know

Speaker 15 if all else fails, we can go ahead and get Kirk Cousins over there to Cincinnati. Too much money, y'all ain't finna pay that.

Speaker 15 You know, he got, you know, he got like 40 million on that contract, Ocho, this year. I know,

Speaker 15 and then he got another, he probably got after

Speaker 15 50, 30.

Speaker 16 Stay with me now.

Speaker 16 How much of that is Atlanta willing to pay?

Speaker 15 Huh? I'm not.

Speaker 15 So let me get this straight. You

Speaker 15 want to move into my house and you want, well, hey, how much, how much of the mortgage do you go pay? Nothing? Because I don't live there no more.

Speaker 16 Okay,

Speaker 16 I'm just throwing it.

Speaker 15 Well, I'm throwing it back at you.

Speaker 16 I'm just listening. I'm just talking.
I know what he can do at the quarterback. This one when it comes to throwing that goddamn ball.

Speaker 16 And you got two phenomenal, the best duo in the NFL over there in Cincinnati.

Speaker 15 But we good. We got.

Speaker 15 Yeah, I do believe, because guess what, Ocho?

Speaker 15 You know, your offensive line is not the best. And what can and what can he do? Move.

Speaker 15 Yeah, he can't. So he can't.

Speaker 16 That wasn't necessary, though. You ain't had to bring that up.

Speaker 15 You want to get there and be like Joe Burrow? So you have two quarterbacks. I'm just saying.

Speaker 16 You didn't need to bring up anything about our offensive line.

Speaker 15 you didn't have do y'all know your offensive line ain't good they say they know your offensive line ain't good ocho

Speaker 15 it's better than the broncos no it ain't it's not

Speaker 15 did y'all win last week no we did not win ocho hey but you shouldn't be you shouldn't even be talking about football

Speaker 15 you shouldn't be talking about football okay you got me you got me

Speaker 15 Ben Johnson says Bears don't have championship caliber practice habits yet. The Bears are 0-2 and on the NFL worst point differential, minus 34, which pretty much speaks for itself.

Speaker 15 For Johnson, the problem stemmed from the part of bad preparation because his squad practiced bad habits

Speaker 15 are yet to reflect a championship caliber team. We should be going to football, finishing hard.

Speaker 15 We talk about this all the time with offensive players that our fundamentals, our finish, our technique, then they show up and walk through.

Speaker 15 That's you.

Speaker 15 Let me finish this, Ocho. They need to show up on the practice field.
That's how you show up on game day.

Speaker 15 Simple things: how we properly block, how we catch the ball, how we block after the catch, ball security, things like that. It's the little things that you learn in youth league football.

Speaker 15 That even at this level, they make a huge difference.

Speaker 15 When Mike first got there, 1995, Ocho, yeah,

Speaker 15 put up there and said, this is what I expect.

Speaker 15 You catch a pass, I don't care how far the pass is,

Speaker 15 you finish 40 yards. Okay?

Speaker 15 He said, we do walkthroughs. It's really not a walkthrough.
It's a jog through.

Speaker 15 This is how we do. We don't walk on the field.
We don't walk off the field. We jog on, we jog off.

Speaker 15 They thought Mike was bullshit. They thought Mike was bulljoving.

Speaker 15 Right, right, right. After he started cutting a few people,

Speaker 15 he got everybody on the body's attention.

Speaker 16 Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 15 And then,

Speaker 15 you know, we win and everybody started to feel good, Ocho. We go to walkthroughs, guys out there in Tim's

Speaker 15 guys out there, guys out there in Tim's, guys out there in Uggs.

Speaker 15 Hey, because Mike would be like, we'd be practicing right where I'm at, Mojo. Mike would be down there like 20, 30 yards.

Speaker 16 Yeah.

Speaker 15 And he had his arms folded. And he normally he either have his arms this, he normally has his hands in his pockets.

Speaker 15 Anybody you played for the Broncos, or you, you're a reporter, you've been around him, you know, he's standing down there, he got his hands in his pocket.

Speaker 15 That day,

Speaker 15 here's arms, just like this here.

Speaker 16 I'm like, man, who was that? Who was that in them damn Tim? That's what I wanted.

Speaker 15 I was like, well, damn. He ain't say nothing.
Because normally, you know,

Speaker 15 he had a call sheet and he'll cool. He'll like cool, which means he wants to see the first play again.
Cool. Right.
He wants to see play number six again.

Speaker 15 Ain't say nothing.

Speaker 15 Let's laugh, Ocho. So we run through it.
You know, we run through it. to our offense defense come offense again defense might call it up

Speaker 15 Just like, you know, because normally, when he calls everybody to get up, you know, we run up there on your ain't no dragging around. We run up there like

Speaker 15 he about to feed us the last supper or something. We run up there, try to get a good, good old meal.
But anyway,

Speaker 15 he paused, he don't say anything.

Speaker 15 Then all of a sudden, he said, I don't know what the hell y'all think this is.

Speaker 15 He said, this is real. This is what you do.
This is what you get paid for.

Speaker 15 Everybody's here

Speaker 15 because I want you to be here.

Speaker 15 And when we come out here,

Speaker 15 we don't do things the right way sometimes. We do things the right way all the time.

Speaker 15 Now,

Speaker 15 whomever I see

Speaker 15 in them timbling boots and shower shoes and

Speaker 15 uggs,

Speaker 15 you won't be on this team no more.

Speaker 15 But I, but, oh, you know how you know? I say, man, man, come on, bro. Just put on turf.
Ocho, remember, used to have turf shoes, ocho? Because you have a little knocker. Yes, yes.

Speaker 15 I say, guys, if y'all not gonna work, please, just put those on so you could. Right.
Ocho, how you a DB and got on got on Tim's?

Speaker 15 Come on, come on, Ocho. You a linebacker, you got on Tims.
You a wide receiver, you got on Tims. Really?

Speaker 16 It's walkthrough, though.

Speaker 15 Walkthrough, it ain't no walkthrough. Told you.
It ain't no walkthrough. Ain't no walking.

Speaker 15 I look like y'all.

Speaker 15 Man, John throwing the ball 30 yards down the field. How the hell are you going to do a walkthrough and you walking, and then he throwing the ball 30 yards?

Speaker 15 Hey,

Speaker 16 that's funny. Man,

Speaker 15 I bet you, I bet you ain't nobody else showed up with that bull jai.

Speaker 15 Man, them guys were coming at it. Oh, yo,

Speaker 15 they got on the jeans.

Speaker 15 They got on, then they try to get slick.

Speaker 15 They have on sweats over their jeans.

Speaker 15 When I try to tell them, man, it's sharp.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 15 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 15 You're right. You're right.
I'm going to leave it alone. You're right.
You're exactly right.

Speaker 15 Dabo Sweeney defended his program, which started one and two during the heated news coverage saying, hey, listen, if Cliffson's tired of winning, they can send send me on my way.

Speaker 15 But I'm going to go somewhere else and coach. I ain't got to go to the beach.
Hell, I'm 55. I got a long way to go.
Y'all are going to have to deal with me for a while. All we've done is win.

Speaker 15 We won the league eight out of the last 10 years. Is that not good? I'm just asking, is that not good to win your league eight out of 10 years?

Speaker 15 Go to the playoffs seven out of 10 years, be in four national championships, win two, win it twice. Yeah, we're going a little down right now, taking shots.

Speaker 15 I've got a long memory we'll be all right we'll bounce back

Speaker 15 um every every single season oh joe he every single season as a coach

Speaker 16 every single season as a player you got to update your resume

Speaker 16 every year you got to update your resume

Speaker 16 So brother, Brother Davo talking about what they did in the past, as if it holds any weight today,

Speaker 16 it's great for stories. It's great

Speaker 16 for conversation, barbershop topics.

Speaker 16 It has no effect on the program of you being one and two.

Speaker 15 I guarantee you they'll take his ass in Alabama right now.

Speaker 15 You know he played wide receiver at Alabama.

Speaker 16 Dabo, Dabo played Reshiva.

Speaker 16 Okay.

Speaker 15 It's that boy. You know, northern South, they had a way of pronunciating thing.
It's that boy.

Speaker 15 And

Speaker 15 they thought they were saying Dabo.

Speaker 15 Right. Hence, Dabbo.

Speaker 15 Oh, okay. You know, we got away with words, Ocho.
Words, yeah, yeah, we do. Yeah, look.

Speaker 15 It happens. I mean, no,

Speaker 15 winning the league eight out of 10 years, it's great.

Speaker 15 Being in four national championships and winning two is great. Could have won three, could have lost.
I mean, the one you lost to Alabama the first year, you could have won that one.

Speaker 15 The one you won, you could have have lost that one. Uh, you wasn't beating LSU, they beat the breaks off y'all,

Speaker 15 they beat the absolute breaks out of you.

Speaker 15 Uh,

Speaker 15 but nah, he uh now, Dabbo's a good coach. You ain't, you ain't, there ain't very many coaches coaching right now better than Dabbo.

Speaker 15 There ain't very many head coaches coaching right now, got a resume that's as impressive as his.

Speaker 15 I, I, I know, uh, Ryan Day has been winning, um, Kirby's smart,

Speaker 15 but you ain't going much further than that that you're taking over Dabo.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 15 I'm just saying,

Speaker 15 not his resume, not the amount of guys that he's put in the NFL, not the many times that he's, like he said, he's won the title, and, you know, he's been in the college football playoffs seven out of 10 years.

Speaker 15 No, no, no, no.

Speaker 15 Dabbo, Dabbo doing okay. Like I said, fire.
I bet you Alabama hired him.

Speaker 16 It'd be hired in 24 hours.

Speaker 15 All right, Ocho, now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 16 Listen, I'm ready for tomorrow, huh?

Speaker 15 Man, they're going to be the breaks up, y'all.

Speaker 16 I forgot to tell you, too.

Speaker 16 I forgot to tell you.

Speaker 16 I know you don't like this kind of stuff. Like,

Speaker 15 you know, I love blues. I love classical.

Speaker 16 I'm an enthusiast for all the old school arts, man, from the 50s and the 60s and the 70s.

Speaker 16 If you ever have a chance, just do me a small favor.

Speaker 15 You know, take,

Speaker 16 please, please go see the rat pack show at the Tuscany Hotel and Casino.

Speaker 16 I know you're probably not in the Sinatra like I am in the Rat Pack and Dean Mart and Sammy.

Speaker 15 Would I check it out?

Speaker 16 I'm telling you, just, you got to see it one time. You got to see it one time.
The guy who played Sammy David Jr., he told me to tell you, hello. He told me to tell you he loves watching the show.

Speaker 16 But

Speaker 16 it was unbelievable.

Speaker 15 Oh, Joe, you told me you're supposed to be going to the Grits Cafe. What happened?

Speaker 16 I went there every morning.

Speaker 16 I went there every morning while I was there. When matter of fact, hold on, listen to me.

Speaker 16 Her name is Miss Trina. Miss Trina is waiting on you.
I told her, I say, I say, Miss Trina, I done told him to come to the Grits Cafe over and over and over.

Speaker 16 Trust me, he's gonna get here. I don't know what time you wake up, but he's gonna come in.
Yeah, they're waiting on you.

Speaker 16 You ain't even got to pay for nothing.

Speaker 16 Boy, the food there is phenomenal. You hear me, man?

Speaker 15 please, boy. Man.

Speaker 15 Whatever. No, I'm just saying, dang.
Ocho

Speaker 15 ain't calling me, so I guess.

Speaker 16 Listen, you're not, uncle, I'll be up at seven o'clock in the morning. You ain't gonna, you ain't gonna get it that early.

Speaker 15 I be up, right? I get up. Oh, Joe, most of the time I'm up at 6:30 walking titles.

Speaker 15 I got to walk it before it gets hot.

Speaker 16 Okay, okay, my bad.

Speaker 15 And plus, I grew up at the end. That's where I realized I grew up in, I grew up having to get up early.

Speaker 16 Okay, well, you know, you know my routine, especially when I'm in Miami.

Speaker 16 I'm up at five o'clock i'm at i'm at the gym at six boom seven o'clock i'm eating breakfast wherever i'm eating it at i mean you know but you you you got to hit grits cafe i need you to hit that i need you to try soul food cafe which is right on rainbow boulevard nice soul food yeah fish and grits and

Speaker 15 and then i know what it is just

Speaker 16 hey one one night

Speaker 16 just please go see the rat pack show at the tuscany hotel and casino that that's all i ask of you matter of fact that's your homegrown matter of of fact, I ain't paying you until you go see it.

Speaker 15 How about that?

Speaker 15 This man Trey, he ain't gonna pay me. He's gonna put demands on which he paid me back my money.

Speaker 16 No, listen, because I want you to be able to experience what I was able to experience last night.

Speaker 15 Unbelievable.

Speaker 16 I mean, see, you're not really into that kind of music like I am, but until you experience it and be like, oh, this is what it was like back then in the 60s with Sammy Davis and Dean Martin and the chemistry, the fan engagement.

Speaker 15 I want uh

Speaker 15 I paid like $5,900. I could experience it.
I could really experience it. No,

Speaker 16 I'm a call up there. I'm gonna pay for the tickets.

Speaker 15 No, no, no, no, no. I need $5,900 in my pocket.

Speaker 16 I got you.

Speaker 16 Hey, what's your Apple Pay? I get you. I'll send it to you right now.

Speaker 15 You see?

Speaker 16 You see?

Speaker 15 I got an Apple Pay bag.

Speaker 16 You don't want it. PayPal, they got all these apps.

Speaker 15 If you really want to pay, can you send that much money on Apple Pay and stuff?

Speaker 16 Yes. The limit is $7,500.

Speaker 15 I ain't no. Yeah.
Yeah, there it is. See, see? Shelly got it.
Shelly got Vimmo.

Speaker 15 And I think Apple. Nah, she got Vimmo and Zale.

Speaker 15 Okay, I can sell it to her.

Speaker 16 Tell her, just send me the number.

Speaker 15 All right, Kepper Norwood Jr. said,

Speaker 15 my question is, what are your top four Super Bowl party snacks?

Speaker 15 I think you got to have like

Speaker 15 chips got to be number one, Ocho. You got to have chips.
Yeah,

Speaker 16 of course, of course.

Speaker 15 Doritos. Dorito.
Doritos.

Speaker 15 Any chip related. Fritos, Doritos,

Speaker 15 potato chips.

Speaker 15 Those. One of

Speaker 15 that.

Speaker 15 Queso? You got to have some queso, Ocho?

Speaker 16 What the hell is queso?

Speaker 15 Like cheese, the cheese with ground beef in it. Y'all, you don't have that?

Speaker 16 I don't know about no queso. I ain't never had no queso.

Speaker 15 What else? Uh,

Speaker 15 wings?

Speaker 15 Uh, yeah, wings, wings. That's that's a good question.

Speaker 16 I ain't been to a Super Bowl party in so long. Hell, when it's a Super Bowl, I'm at the damn Super Bowl.

Speaker 15 I don't have Super Bowl parties. Because guess what?

Speaker 15 Who you for?

Speaker 15 You ain't for my team, you can't come over. You ain't finna be jumping them cheering to my house.

Speaker 15 Just take cheer in your own damn house.

Speaker 15 Hey, who you for, man?

Speaker 15 I'm for such and so. Okay, come on over.

Speaker 15 Ain't nobody cheering. You're not finna be in my ear.
Your team winning because I'm put you out.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 16 See, I don't like Super Bowl parties for the simple fact that all the drinking and the noise and the party, I like to actually watch the game. I like to see everything unfold when it's nice and quiet.

Speaker 16 I like to hear the announcers. I like to see.

Speaker 15 No,

Speaker 15 man. And they get mad.
Man, shop, you turn it on. No.

Speaker 15 You can't hear at the bar. When you go to the bar, you can't hear them games.
It's so much noise going on, you don't hear nothing. Now you want to come over here and pretend like, huh?

Speaker 16 You listen to the Super Bowl with no sound?

Speaker 15 God damn. Oh, Joe.
I haven't heard. I have.
The only thing I listen to with the sound, the only thing I listen to with the sound is track and field. I don't listen to basketball games.

Speaker 15 I don't listen to football games. Oh, Joe, I find myself,

Speaker 15 man, watching watching TV. It's like,

Speaker 15 closed caption, good for me.

Speaker 15 It's them happened so much, Ocho.

Speaker 15 I mean, I don't even, I wouldn't even know.

Speaker 15 The only thing I listen to with the sound is tracking feel.

Speaker 15 Because I get so excited to hear them call the game.

Speaker 15 They call it Van Auto Bowl and Sonia Richard Ross.

Speaker 15 Man, Tom Hammonds used to be my favorite. The new guy they got now, I love him too.
Tom Hammond was amazing.

Speaker 15 But that's the only thing. I don't watch, I don't listen to any, I don't listen to any sporting event with Sound.

Speaker 15 So

Speaker 15 I'm trying to think. So is Wing, so Wings, Wings got to be one hot.
Oh, Joe, I know you got hot dogs at your Super Bowl party.

Speaker 16 Oh, you know, hey, listen, I like my hot dogs now.

Speaker 16 If you have anything and you want me to show up, have some damn hot dogs. I don't need no condominium.

Speaker 15 I pay chips.

Speaker 15 I'm trying to think.

Speaker 15 The last time I had an event,

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 15 it was,

Speaker 15 man, I might have been,

Speaker 15 ooh,

Speaker 15 it's probably been about 15 years.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Chips, wings.

Speaker 15 I don't know. I just, I don't know, Pete, I just, I just get a bunch.
I just say, Shelly, get a bunch of stuff that you think people would like.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 15 They don't like it. It's going to the trash.
So

Speaker 15 nothing, A. You're eating on paper.
So don't be asking me, A, man, where the plate's at. Right there.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Ain't nobody watching no kids.
We're the same.

Speaker 16 See, see, we the same. I live like that 365.

Speaker 16 Oh, yeah,

Speaker 15 I don't eat out nothing.

Speaker 16 I don't eat out nothing.

Speaker 16 My kids come here. I need a cup.

Speaker 15 We'll go to the red solo cup right there.

Speaker 16 Hey, them Dixie, them Dixie plastic plates, they right there.

Speaker 16 We don't have no silverware.

Speaker 16 I got all plastic, everything, plastic forks, spoons, and knives.

Speaker 15 Man, Ocho,

Speaker 15 when I moved to LA,

Speaker 15 I had two forks, two spoons, and a knife.

Speaker 16 That's all you need.

Speaker 16 That's all you need.

Speaker 15 When I moved to Vegas, they left everything. When they say, Ocho, the house as is,

Speaker 15 Ocho, the only thing they took were their clothes out of the closet.

Speaker 15 They left towels. They left linen.
They left wine. They left beer.
They left utensils. They took nothing.
They left cases of water. When I say they didn't take anything,

Speaker 15 they didn't take anything. If I didn't know, they might be in witness protection.
They somebody hiding from somebody because they were gone.

Speaker 15 Find out say, Ugh, nocho, what career would you rather have winning two rings as a practice squad player or making the hall of fame and having no rings? Making the hall of fame.

Speaker 15 Oh, damn, practice squad. Man, come on.

Speaker 16 You that kind of question.

Speaker 15 I mean, you gotta, you gotta say, okay, be a good player and win two rings or make the hall of fame. A practice squad, oh, you didn't get to play in the games.

Speaker 16 You just got that shit.

Speaker 15 Hell no,

Speaker 15 Aaron Jones, with that Vegas reference, you're proving that the players know two,

Speaker 15 so why is it a big deal?

Speaker 15 Tom isn't in any other private practices.

Speaker 15 You're missing the point. He's talking to coaches.
You think any of the coaches that potentially might play the Raiders?

Speaker 15 We got a different of opinions. It's okay, Aaron.
Ephraim Rogers says, nice jacket, Ocho. Look like it's worth $5,900.
Salute, gentlemen. Keep going.

Speaker 15 Y'all see that? Chat?

Speaker 15 Chat.

Speaker 15 Hey, now.

Speaker 15 This man on Broadway. This man really played in my face, y'all.

Speaker 15 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 16 The Louis Vuitton stuff

Speaker 16 you seeing me wear as of recent. And because I'm trying to get a brand deal with Louis Vuitton,

Speaker 16 this ain't nothing like that. See,

Speaker 16 my baby bought me this. She bought me the little set.
You got got a little pants too i know i know it's a track outfit

Speaker 15 yeah you know see that what well have your baby to pay me my money i'll take her i'll take i'll take 5900 from her you see

Speaker 15 if i

Speaker 16 hold on it's it's it's i gotta pay child support it's end of the month okay

Speaker 16 nah you play child support at the beginning of the month Well, nah, Mike, listen, those I have kids from,

Speaker 16 we negotiated and I pay on the on the back end of the month. Okay.

Speaker 15 But how you have your baby break me off my money? 5900.

Speaker 16 She watching. I'm going to ask her.

Speaker 16 Baby, send Unk that $5,900.

Speaker 15 J-W. Akron, I know Ocho ain't all here trying to make bets.
You still owe me a jersey from last year. Steelers wear.
Break bread, Ocho, or break the jersey.

Speaker 15 Hold on, hold on, hold on, time out, time out, time out.

Speaker 16 Listen, I love my Steelers fans. I love y'all.
And, you know,

Speaker 16 I've always shown respect and grace. I don't remember making that bet.
I, I, I, I swear, I surely don't. Did we shake on it?

Speaker 16 No, like we ain't shake on that. That really ain't no bet,

Speaker 15 man. Ocho, we just gonna go around here just owe it to everybody.

Speaker 16 I don't owe nobody nothing.

Speaker 15 Only only

Speaker 16 people I owe right now is the IRS. That's it.

Speaker 15 You owe me $5,900.

Speaker 16 Well, you might have to talk to Uncle Sam first.

Speaker 15 I'm gonna have to garnish your wages, Ocho. I'm sorry.

Speaker 15 I'm about to mess your credit up. That's what I gotta do.
I guess God garnish your wages.

Speaker 15 Chad, should I garnish Ocho wages? I mean, the man ain't gonna pay me my money, Chad. He ain't gonna pay.
He just won't do right.

Speaker 16 I promise, I told you, listen, go see the Rat Pack show in Vegas. I'm gonna pay you as soon as you tell me how it was.

Speaker 15 Can I go see another show?

Speaker 16 No, you got to see that one.

Speaker 15 I'm telling you, what if I go tell you?

Speaker 15 no? No,

Speaker 15 come on, we're talking about rat pack, Frank Sinatra, Blue Man.

Speaker 15 If you're the Frank Sinatra fan, I'm going to go see the Michael Jackson play then.

Speaker 15 No, man,

Speaker 16 you don't understand. See, you don't understand until you.
All right, I'm going to give you for comparison and better context for today.

Speaker 15 The Rat Pack,

Speaker 16 that show is equivalent to going to a Chris Brown show,

Speaker 16 going to see Beyonce.

Speaker 15 That's exactly how you do play. Oh, Lord,

Speaker 16 I'm telling you. I'm telling you.
I'm telling you, I'm giving you the comparison of what it was like in the 50s and 60s. The rat pack was equivalent to Beyonce and Chris Brown back then.

Speaker 16 Stage presence, engaging.

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, I thought you said, okay.

Speaker 16 Making you feel a part of the show.

Speaker 15 I mean, I've seen it. You know, they talking.
They say,

Speaker 15 smoking the cigarettes. I get it.

Speaker 16 Yes, yes. And they do all that.
They do everything. It's like you back in the 60s.
Go check. Just check it out for me, man.
Please. Please.
They waiting on you.

Speaker 15 Tino Davis said, my birthday is tonight at midnight. Focho, I want a jersey.
Tino, happy birthday.

Speaker 15 I don't know about that jersey. He's going to make promises, but you're probably not going to get it.
But anyway, happy birthday. Enjoy today.

Speaker 16 Do something fun.

Speaker 15 Another year around the sun, man. And make sure.
Happy birthday. Make sure

Speaker 15 you tell the man thank you for allowing you to see another one.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah,

Speaker 15 big church said someone had too much Laporte to drink tonight. Take away the bottle,

Speaker 15 bro. Y'all actually think I get on here drunk.
Y'all actually think I would, I would go show up to the job. Come on now.

Speaker 15 I would, I don't show up on that man's job drunk. What makes you think I'm gonna show up on my own at my own place drunk? Come on now.

Speaker 15 Well, y'all, but you know what, Ocho.

Speaker 15 Now,

Speaker 15 Saturday, he was at the fight.

Speaker 15 I confronted Stephen A. Not what they said online.

Speaker 16 That was a simple conversation,

Speaker 16 a funny conversation because they could see me sitting there laughing my ass off.

Speaker 15 Stephen A. Did you hear Stephen A?

Speaker 15 Did you hear what Stephen A said about it?

Speaker 15 Nah.

Speaker 15 What did I tell Stephen A?

Speaker 15 What did he, Stephen A, told y'all I said to him?

Speaker 16 You asked me?

Speaker 16 I can't remember. I asked him.

Speaker 15 I said, you told me that when I saw you again, you're going to have a six-pack.

Speaker 15 He said, man,

Speaker 15 I gained 187 because I was, I said, that ain't no six-pack, Stephen A.

Speaker 15 That ain't no six-pack. He said,

Speaker 15 I don't put on 15, I think he said 15 pounds. He said, man, he said, you know, I'm back to eat my.

Speaker 15 my crunch berries and something else. I say, see, that ain't what you told me.
See, I ain't there to keep you. I ain't there to hold you accountable.
It wasn't no confrontation.

Speaker 15 What about confronting Stephen A about?

Speaker 16 Yeah, it was so funny.

Speaker 16 I posted us all talking.

Speaker 16 Mrs., but I put the song We Are One by Frankie Definitely Mays.

Speaker 16 Like, I don't know. It's just a

Speaker 15 good moment. I said,

Speaker 15 How did you come to the?

Speaker 15 Well, you know, they're going to make up their own conclusions.

Speaker 16 That's all. That's all.

Speaker 16 You pay that no man, child.

Speaker 15 I talked to Stephen A on the phone. I mean,

Speaker 15 I talked to him.

Speaker 15 So there would be no need to confront him if

Speaker 15 we talk on the phone, which we still do.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Why do y'all want drama? Why do y'all want me to? So what would I confront Stephen A about?

Speaker 15 I'm just, that's what I mean. I need somebody to tell me what I'm going to confront him about.

Speaker 15 Nothing.

Speaker 15 Nothing.

Speaker 15 Pause it.

Speaker 16 You know,

Speaker 16 the media are going to run with that. They're going to create their own little narrative.

Speaker 15 You know how that goes. You know.

Speaker 15 One guy say, you know, he can't read lips, but he can read body language.

Speaker 15 Boy, boy, boy. Must love cash.
Super Bowl party. Nightcap live at Ocho's house.
I bring plastic cups, mustard put by Glizzy.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 15 We have it right down there in that white room.

Speaker 16 Oh, absolutely not.

Speaker 15 Absolutely not. And I need red Kool-Aid.

Speaker 16 Absolutely not. But when I take, well, everything in here is white.
Everything.

Speaker 16 Ain't nobody coming in. But

Speaker 16 my kids got to come here. They take the shoes off.

Speaker 16 They can't touch nothing. Don't sit on nothing.
Go straight to your room.

Speaker 15 Oh, yeah. Oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 16 Like my grandma was back with me. Don't you sit on that couch.
I say, why can't you sit on the couch and you got plastic over it?

Speaker 15 Yep, that ain't for you to sit on.

Speaker 16 Man, man, go to your room.

Speaker 15 As Stroud said, Ocho likes hot dogs without the bun. Damn, Ocho.

Speaker 15 Why would I not?

Speaker 16 Without the bun, it wouldn't be a hot dog. That makes no sense.

Speaker 16 I don't like no condiments on my hot dog. I like my hot dog with the bun.
The bun slightly warmed up a little bit, squeeze it together, and you eat it.

Speaker 16 Sometimes, if it's people around me, I break off a piece, juggle it like dice,

Speaker 16 pop it in. So it's still, so I still look cool.

Speaker 15 I'm gonna let you have that one, Ocho.

Speaker 15 I just want you to know

Speaker 15 next year this time, you're not gonna be able to say that, okay? You know, I got, I got, you know what I'm saying? I got

Speaker 15 what? I ain't say nothing. You know, next year this time, I'll be though,

Speaker 15 I'll be be on probation.

Speaker 16 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 15 Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. We'll be back tomorrow after the Dolphins lose to the Buffalo Bears.
After the Dolphins win.

Speaker 15 But we'll be back tomorrow. Thank you guys for joining us.
Y'all know who I am. I'm your favorite on Shannon Sharp.
And there he is, my partner and co-host.

Speaker 15 Let's Liberty City's own Bingles Ring of Fame honoree, the former Pro Bowler, all-pro. He's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.
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Speaker 15 Congratulations, Sidney McLaughlin on the new American record in the 400 meters. Cordell Tinch, congratulations, 1299, world champ.
And Katie Moon,

Speaker 15 congratulations. Povault, world champ.
Thank you. Thank you.
Thank you for your

Speaker 15 competitive spirit. And thank you for breaking.
Hey, MJ, we're counting on you. Noah, Kenny.

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Speaker 15 The Jamaicans must go down and they must go down hard.

Speaker 15 I'm on. He's Ocho.
See you tomorrow night after the game. Peace.

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