Club Shay Shay - Memphis Bleek Part 2

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Memphis Bleek joins Shannon Sharpe at Club Shay Shay to perform a track from his new album Apartment 3D before diving into his journey from the Marcy Projects in Brooklyn to hip-hop history. Raised by a single mother and stepfather, Bleek recalls growing up watching his mom struggle and his determination to change his family dynamic. At first, he thought basketball, baseball, or even art would be his path, until writing lyrics became his true calling. Growing up in the same building as Jay-Z, his first job was walking Jay’s nephews to school for $100 a week. He shares memories of the projects, losing friends, and respect for older generations who disciplined kids whether related or not. Bleek reflects on idolizing Nino Brown before Jay-Z told him to quit hustling and focus on music. Though not blood brothers, he says Jay-Z raised him alongside Dame Dash, Biggs, Clark Kent, and cousin Bee High. He explains why Brooklyn breeds stars like The Notorious B.I.G., Lil’ Kim, Fabolous, Big Daddy Kane, ODB, Joey Bada$$, and Pop Smoke. He remembers meeting Biggie during the “Brooklyn’s Finest” session with Jay-Z and visiting Biggie’s New Jersey mansion with elevators and Land Cruisers, which inspired him to believe success through music was possible. He admits his pen was never as sharp as Jay-Z, Biggie, Nas, or Tupac, and recalls being devastated by Biggie’s death. He describes Jay-Z’s life in the projects as “royalty” with an air conditioner, waterbed, and white carpet. His mother was best friends with Jay’s sister, and Bleek always knew Jay was destined for greatness. Watching Jay-Z evolve into a businessman, he says Hov has long planned to retire from rap and hasn’t felt challenged since Eminem, Big Pun, Biggie, and Tupac. Bleek recalls freestyling for Jay-Z during the Reasonable Doubt era, seeing Jay write “Sunshine” in 30 minutes, and realizing he was hand-picked. Reasonable Doubt changed Bleek’s life, giving him money to support his mom and allowing him to buy a house in New Jersey at 17. Bleek admits to losing focus, skipping sessions to chase women until Jay stopped working with him for a year. His mother’s guidance saved his career, and he never missed another session. He saw Jay grind—begging DJs to play records, selling Roc-A-Fella to Def Jam for $10M, then chasing the Forbes list until becoming a billionaire. Beanie Sigel’s signing pushed Bleek to prove himself, and he went gold with his debut album. He reflects on envy from friends, wasted years, and the advice he’d give young stars: chase money, not girls, and don’t glorify violence. Bleek credits Dame Dash with saving him from a bad management deal but explains why Jay-Z will never “save” Dame now. He recalls Roc-A-Fella’s breakup, calling it the worst day of his life, caused by egos, lack of focus, and fights over credit. He names Roc-A-Fella the greatest rap label ever, with Cash Money, Death Row, No Limit, Ruff Ryders, and Def Jam rounding out his top five. He shares Kanye West memories, Rihanna’s early career, and calls Rihanna an anomaly. He talks about rap beefs from Tupac vs. Biggie to Kendrick Lamar vs. Drake, praising “Not Like Us” as the greatest diss record he’s ever seen. Bleek recalls turning down beats like Joe Budden’s “Pump It Up,” Barbara Streisand quoting him in a diss to Donald Trump, and being starstruck by Michael Jackson. He performed for Nelson Mandela, worked with Destiny’s Child, Rihanna, and Missy Elliott, and says Beyoncé is the closest thing to Michael Jackson. He praises Kevin Hart as the funniest person he’s met, likening him to Eddie Murphy, and remembers hanging with Nick Cannon, Serena Williams, and Meagan Good. Bleek shares lessons about money, family, and loyalty, admitting cars and jewelry were wasted purchases. He agrees with Fat Joe that rappers live paycheck to paycheck and opens up about marriage, fatherhood, and why focusing on friendships hurt his career. He says Jay-Z always has his back but egos destroy empires. From Marcy Projects to Roc-A-Fella Records, Memphis Bleek’s story is one of loyalty, lessons, and legacy.

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Kendrick and Drake.

Oh, yeah.

The man, I mean.

I mean, the Grammys that came along with it and the half Super Bowl halftime show that came along with it.

And he goes on tour with Scissor and it's sold out.

I've never seen a diss record do that.

Never.

Ever.

And you might not ever see it again.

No, you won't.

I think this is the one, only time.

But you know what it shows you, man?

And I hope the OVO camp and everybody knows and any other rapper that's getting into this business and want to be a star,

they don't love you, man.

It's just like the streets.

You're a showman.

You here to perform, do your show, and go home.

Certain fans are going to love you, but the masses is not going to love you, they're gonna respect you, right?

But there's no love here, it's the next man up, and that's what it goes to show.

Because if you could dominate for so long, like Drake did, and then somebody could just come move you out the way, like get out of here.

Where's the loyalty or the love of the fans, right?

It's like almost they didn't exist.

That man got 10 diamonds selling singles, right?

I mean,

but still, man, like

it's still

you don't want to be getting

you know, assassinated on music, on record, then your comments, the Twitter, you walk in the street, people shouting this to you, doing that.

It's a rough time, man.

It ain't going to go away because guess what?

They play that at every game.

Every game.

NBA arena not like us.

The team is not.

All he got to do is he got to make another one.

He got to make something to counteract that.

But does it have, what about just music?

Does it have to be a diss to counteract that?

What if he came out with another album?

No, it don't have to be a diss.

Okay.

Like, remember, I'm never going to agree with the fans.

They try to say Aether

was the best diss record in the Jay and Nas battle.

Cool.

We can't argue with the fans, but you know what we're going to do?

We're going to make a classic album.

We're going to drop the blueprint.

We're going to drop the black album.

We're going to do the things to outhit the opponent.

And that's how you win a war.

You can lose a battle.

Right.

But you got to win the war.

Yes.

And that's what,

pray.

That's what they over there focused on, the war, not the battle.

Are you surprised that Drake took it this way that he universal and gonna sue?

Are you surprised that he did that?

Yes, I'm surprised.

You know, you got people that's on both sides.

Right.

Oh, he's suing because it's a battle.

Oh, no, he's suing.

He's taking the mega giant down, the industry and all this.

But the mega giant built you up.

I don't know.

I don't see a winner in this, man.

It's just, I don't see a winner in this.

Yeah, I mean,

you in the music industry.

You've been around the music industry to the lay people that's going to watch this, going to listen to this.

What does he hope to accomplish by this?

I don't know.

I really don't know because I got a lot of diss records about me.

Like the rap of the game, he got like 40 diss songs about me, but I'm never going to take them to court.

I don't know, bro.

I don't know.

I hope it wasn't his decision.

Like, no, sometimes lawyers make decisions and

they got them billable hours.

Yeah, but still, man, I don't know, man.

Rap beef in court, like,

should have been some physical altercation for that.

I don't know, man.

And, you know, they both my guys.

Drake, like you said, got 10, 10.

10 more than anybody.

10 diamonds.

Like, he been on billboard longer than anybody.

Then you got Kendrick, who's just amazing, phenomenal.

Both of them are.

I don't think this is career ended, like a lot of people say.

I feel like Drake can definitely come back from this.

As you see, he just dropped the super smash, no kia

man

but i had fat joe on and fat joe say man look if they call you off the porch you gotta go that's right you gotta go you can't you can't they can't

do that y'all had i'm too big to battle nah man you can't but that they they try to hit up jay jay don't even pay them no mind jay had us in the lobby the rock remember you wanted to get to the penthouse you got to go through the lobby first he had some hitters in the lobby couldn't just get up there that easy drake ain't got no hitters in the lobby.

He got to get some hitters down there.

But think about this, Bleep.

All the people that Jay, that Drake done jumped on the feet with, all the people that on the tour, when he go on tour, y'all come on.

Yeah.

Everybody turned their back on this man.

See, he should have gave me a verse.

Should have gave me a verse.

I'd have been on the front line with you.

Superman.

Are you surprised they did a man like that?

Yes.

I got trust, no love in this game, man.

People are going to use you for what they need you for, and then when they're done with you, they're going to put you back because they don't need you no more.

They got what they needed.

Damn.

Since this game is dirty, man.

It's a really, really dirty game.

And you got to pick your friends and know your enemies for sure.

J.

Cole was like in it for a hot second.

J.

Cole said, nah, this ain't for me.

Yeah, he got up out of there.

Yeah, yeah.

He got up out of there.

He jumped back on his bike and rolled off there like Debo.

I don't want none of me.

I respect them.

I ain't going to knock them.

You know, war ain't for every man.

And I'm never going to say

you're less of a man because you don't want a war.

It ain't for everybody.

And J.

Cole got shooters in the lobby, so

he got a record label.

A lot of guys down there.

J.I.D.

and all them guys ain't...

They pin game is serious.

Why are you always getting into it with people, though?

Me?

I don't got no problems with you.

Yeah, I mean,

I guess they started with you.

You and Cam had...

Me and Cameron?

Yeah.

Nah, man.

Cam, my God.

I don't got no problems with you guys.

That was maybe that Rockefeller stuff.

None of that was real.

Right.

Like Cam, Jim Jones, all them, we all chilled in the studio together, and then out of nowhere, we at beef.

And then out of nowhere, it was over.

But no one got punched in the face.

Nobody threw a grape at nobody.

Nobody even slipped on a banana pill in this beef.

So there was nothing.

Let me ask you this.

Do you feel like beef dissing is okay as long as it stays on wax?

Because a lot of times, because I think people think that the Biggie Tupac, it was fine.

I mean, Tupac hit him up up with one of the great diss songs, but it kind of spilled over.

It left the wax and went to the streets.

It's crews.

It's not necessarily the artists.

Yes.

It's the guys you're with.

Like, I have guys, I might feel offended by something someone say.

And I could be talking, just free talking around my guys.

Yo, this guy did that.

And then one of my guys want to go take it upon himself to be like, hey, I'm going to prove a message is so bleak.

I'm loyal.

I'm going to hit this guy for him.

I can't control that.

So that's what it usually be.

It be the crews.

It don't usually be the artists that get into the brawl unless we genuinely don't like each other.

And like I said, if you look at 75% of the beef, half these guys didn't even know each other.

Right.

But you, I mean, at that point in time, you'd be like, man, I'm making too much money to beef.

But if they call you off the porch, you got to.

You got to go?

You got to go, man.

You got to go.

If you get called off the porch, you know how it is in the neighborhood, man, or even in school.

3 o'clock, that 3 o'clock, meet me in the park, and you don't show up.

You might as well tell mom transfer school.

Yeah, you're right, because they're saying

after school?

Yeah.

Hey, and when school's out?

3 o'clock, me and you.

You don't show up.

Mom got to get them transfer papers.

Damn.

Seriously.

You're right.

Hey, you're going to give an ass cut or you're going to take one, but you can't run for one.

That's right, man.

Even in loss, like, losses, like, you know, every defeat is not a defeat.

Right.

At least if I lost fights, but I bet you the person fighting me don't want to fight again.

That's what you got to make.

You know what I mean?

Like, it wasn't wasn't an easy dubbing.

It was a very hard one.

Right.

But the one that you get, you got to make it break loose.

Don't let nobody break it up.

Make him break loose.

He ain't going to come back.

That's right.

That's a fact.

You got to fight, man.

Win or draw.

Win, lose, or draw.

Is it true?

You turned down, oh boy.

They say I did.

Just Blades, Cam, everybody say they got the narrative, but I don't remember having a beat.

And if I did, I'm a fool.

I was on, I don't know, limit hat, but I could tell you, I turned down, rest in peace, black raw beat.

beat, whoa.

I had that beat first, and I didn't use it.

I didn't see.

You couldn't see what he saw?

I didn't see, whoa.

He made it, whoa.

The beat wasn't that.

It was just the beat.

When he got the beat, he like, oh, now,

whoa.

Like, so he brought the life to the beat.

But all rappers have beats that they turn down.

Like, my record, mine right, Rad Man didn't, he passed on that beat.

It was just his DJs that made the beat for me.

So that circle of people passing up beats, I think everything ain't for everyone.

And it's hard, you know what?

It's kind of like a movie.

You hear like such and such turned down this role and such and such turned down that role.

And after you see that person in that role, I'm like, I'm not so sure you would have done the role justice like he did it or like she did it.

So now on a beat, you're like, okay, yeah, I might have turned it down, but I don't know after hearing it.

Yeah, I wouldn't have did old boy.

He did.

Cam and them.

Come on.

Yeah.

It's already history.

What about Joe Button Pump It Up?

Oh, yeah, I had that.

I had that.

I had that.

Judge Blaze was in there.

You know, I had that.

I passed that up.

Joe Buns got that one.

That's cool.

Let me ask you this.

Where are you on ghost writing?

Now, I feel like

it's not good, but a lot of these guys got a lot of writers in the room.

I feel like to sustain, you can't think of everything yourself.

Right.

So you need people like, you know, the beat.

Somebody going to come up with the hook.

Somebody might come up with the concept.

But as far as somebody writing your 16-bar verse, no.

You can give me an idea.

You can give me a chorus, but you're not giving me a verse.

Only person who could give me a verse is Jay.

Jay want to give me a verse, I gladly accept.

Right.

But damn, Bleak, I mean, you know, like, when you in a movie, I mean, you don't come up with all the lines.

You don't do everything.

That's what I'm saying.

Like, but rap, I feel like

you held to a higher stake than an actor.

Like, you know what I mean?

Like, and you can't really say that.

Ice Cube and them writing their own movies.

But Jay-Z wrote wrote for a lot of people a lot of your famous a lot of your favorite faves he done wrote bars for yeah that's why i said he could give me a verse if he want he got something laying around pass off big homie

do you feel people disrespect your pen yes all the time why because i'm too close to the sun when anything is too close to the sun it dissolves our jay is the sun man i was saying oh man that's j beat that he didn't come up with that jay did that yeah like no matter what i do he's gonna get the credit for it you know what i'm saying right now like after this interview come out Jay called you so I could do this.

Right now, ho put the call in, baby.

Barbara Streiser quoted Memphis Bleak and a diss to Donald Trump.

Yeah, I see.

She said, the strong are quiet, the weak start riots.

Yes.

She took that, and that's crazy.

She listened to 900 Hustler because she had to listen to, that's a real drug dealer record, Barbara.

Yeah, Barbara outside.

Have you ever been starstruck?

Michael Jackson.

I said.

What was it?

Okay.

What was it like to be?

Because people keep saying who's the most famous person ever lived?

Other than Jesus?

Michael Jackson?

Yes, word up.

Michael Jackson is it, man.

You know, every kid in the world wanted to meet Mike.

So at Summer Jam, when I got a chance to even see Mike gracing through the halls, coming in our dressing room, it was just...

I couldn't even go like if you look at the pictures, everybody on stage, I was on stage, but I'm not in the picture because I was that starstruck.

Like, that's Mike, man.

Like, that's the greatest of all time.

Like, I couldn't believe it.

That's the only time I could say.

Cause you've been, I mean, look.

I've been around everybody.

God rest, Nelson, Mandela.

I done been around everybody, bro.

Yeah.

We did a show for now during the Water for Life tour in Africa.

But since you've been around Jay and you've known him for so long,

people probably feel that same way about Hove.

But you're like, man, that's my man.

That's me, bro.

Yeah, no, Jay, like, people be losing it when they they see jay jay is like the ultimate super famous like but me is like ah stop playing with me

it's like i don't know if you ever like michael michael jordan you ever met michael jordan no no no i never met mike i seen him a few times and i never met him bro

that's the only man i've ever

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He levitates.

I believe you.

He don't.

He's the GOAT, man.

If you listen at people, I'm talking about super, superstars.

Yes.

When they describe him, they say the same thing.

It's crazy.

And Mike is the GOAT, man.

I know it's sacrilegious to say, but...

And people are like, well, who's the most famous MJ?

And Michael Jordan is Michael Jordan.

And we know the sneak, the jump man yes

but ain't nobody Michael Jackson no nobody's Michael Jackson can you imagine if Michael was Michael Jackson in today's time oh with the internet oh my Jesus like what they say he sold 30 his album went 30 times platinum or something when it came out it'll be 130 yeah he's he's he's sold 100 million hard copies yes a thriller

100 million.

It went 30 million when it first dropped.

Overall, 100 million.

There'll there'll never be another album do that never they said i read something a while back where it said

out of uh three billion people on the planet 2.6 billion of them people were michael jackson fans so i mean he had the whole world the whole world was a michael jackson jackson fan is insane i mean think about when they would see him and people would like spend great money to and they would pass out they wouldn't even get a chance to see the concert yep fainting what man can come out there for 10 13 minutes and just stand there don't say a word and you could

be fainting yeah nobody i don't see nobody doing that.

He's a little marinate.

Yeah, I don't see nobody doing that today.

Never.

Not today.

Not today.

Everybody's famous in their own right.

They got an Instagram page.

They go live.

They like, man, I'm lit.

He ain't lit.

Where are you on sampling?

Oh, I love it.

You know, some of the best music is made from sampling.

You know what I mean?

But I don't think it has to be the right sample.

Like, you know, and the right person chopping the sample.

Like, you give the right sample to Just Blades or Knife Wonder,

oh man, you're going to have a masterpiece on your heads.

Them boys know how to chop a sample up the way you forget who made the record.

Right.

Like serious.

Is it a situation like somebody wants to sample yours?

Because I talked to L and I talked to a lot of people that's had their...

you know, work sampled.

And they're like, nah, nah, I had Bobby Brown talk to him.

He said, nah, I got to hear that because I ain't going to let everybody jump, mess my.

Yeah, no, Bobby got, come on, he got classics.

You don't want to have people ruin your records.

Now, in that aspect, yeah, if somebody's sampling your music, you definitely want to hear it, declare it.

Because, like, if you really take pride in your work, you don't want nobody tarnishing.

Destiny Child.

Oh, hold on.

They was booed at.

They got all-star in Philly.

Yeah.

Philly rough, man.

Philly booed Santa Claus.

They threw snowball.

Yeah, yeah.

He bringing presents.

He bringing.

But it wasn't because of their talent.

They did it wrong.

Remember, they were in Philly.

This was the year

Kobe was playing, you know, Isla.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

That was the official.

Yeah, and they came out with the Kobe jerseys on in Philadelphia.

No, no, no, no, no.

Even though Kobe is a hometown guy, Alan Iverson is the guy in Philly.

He's the guard in Philly.

Like, there's no bigger than, no one more famous than AI in Philly.

You kidding me?

You're absolutely right.

Yes.

Look, let me ask you this about Beyonce.

And

did you know?

I mean, Destiny Child, that was a great group.

But

B was come on I think the most impressive thing and she has a Rolodex of impressive things she's done

but to do country oh man that to I mean she's here

to go way way

a lot of people won't even won't even

attempt that but that's that just shows you the musical genius that she is man and and there's no boundaries or limits she's not willing to test or try you know but you know in order to do that you got to be up here yeah you better not be here do that no because guess what when you do it crossover you're gonna be down here they got that could be your career exit they could walk you right off the stage like oh you can all right let's walk her off right now like nah b is this she is like if anybody is i see going in that michael jackson stratosphere she's the closest wow 100

help me understand this because there have been they've been going back and forth man chris brown better than michael jackson now i believe he might be the closest as far as being able to move and can sing because he's an entertainer.

Like, Chris Brown is, he's an oh, man.

He got bones in his body.

I don't know.

But Chris Brown is a major, major, major superstar,

incredible dancer, phenomenal singer, got hits after hits after hits.

But

Mike Jackson, I don't know.

I don't know.

I know he could, if they did a biopic on Mike, they need to let him do all the dancing.

Because wasn't he supposed to perform something at the B.E.T.

And they cut it?

You know how it is, man.

They bring up the back in the day bull crap.

That man done proved himself time and time again.

How long?

How long?

How long?

Yes, like, come on, man.

If we live in a country that forgives, then they need to forget.

You know what I'm saying?

And don't hold that over that man's head.

Everybody's lives don't wait and they got lives now.

You know what I'm saying?

Yeah, she's the mood on.

She got kids.

Let that man live, man.

Like, you know,

that's the whack part about the industry that I don't like.

I feel like in our culture, they hold us to a higher standard.

We help him, too.

Yes.

We help him.

Yes.

How big could he have been?

Minus that incident, how big could Chris Brown have been?

No ceiling, man.

I don't see no stopping.

Without that incident, I don't see no stopping Chris Brown.

He was the young heartthrob of America.

You know what I mean?

Like, he could do no wrong.

You know what I mean?

That's why I feel like they got to let that go, man.

That kid done proved himself that he's genuinely sorry.

Yeah, he's remorseful.

She's forgiving him.

Exactly, but they don't want to forgive him.

Who are you people to be the gatekeepers of forgiveness?

New rappers today.

Yes.

I talk to comedians and comedians like, man, look.

They don't like them.

Yeah, they don't like them.

Because comedians, the old comedians, they had to go on a little chitlin circuit and they perform in front of 30, they perform in front of 40, 50, 100, and you work your way up.

Now some of these comedians, they get on the internet, they do a skid, they do boot.

Yep.

That's the power of social media, though.

Like, you can't get mad in the era.

It's just, you know.

You take advantage of what's available.

I had to take the train.

These kids is taking Uber to work now.

I can't be mad you in the Uber, right?

I had to take the train.

Yeah.

So,

excuse me.

You just have to respect it and accept it.

Like, everybody deserves their niche and their time.

And I feel like these kids today, it's their time.

We had our time.

And a lot of people didn't capitalize on their time.

So they're mad.

They're resentful of the people that's do it.

Yes.

And it's like, let that go, man.

Let these guys shine.

Let them feed their families and prosper.

You got an opportunity to work with T.I., Missy Elliott.

Missy, I don't think Missy gets the credit that she deserves.

One of the greatest ever and phenomenal writer.

Wrote so many hits for countless artists and RB groups.

But her videos

were futuristic.

Yes.

I mean, and I hate that

the video era has gone.

Yes, yes.

That's because intention span is dying, though.

People don't even watch videos anymore.

It's all on your

phone.

A little quick three-minute reel on your Instagram, and that's it.

It better be a a short.

Got one minute, the whole body just better put this phone back in my pocket.

That's right.

So that's what I think it is.

But back then, man, I appreciate what they did.

Her buster rhymes, Ludacris.

I feel like they was the most creative artist of our genre.

Is it true?

T.I.

only charged you like $2,500 a Fortnite.

Yeah, he charging you $2,500, man.

That's it?

For round hair.

Word up, man.

I love T.I.

for that, man.

He could have got five bands.

He's like, nah, I do it for $2,500.

Rumor has it that you discovered Rose.

Oh, yeah.

I'm not going to take full credit, but I was one of the founders of, it was when we was doing the song around here.

We was in Circle House Studio, you know, tricking them in the studio.

And I remember Ross walking up on me like, yo, Bleak, I get busy, man.

I be writing these hooks, doing all of this.

And I'm like, what?

Let me hear something.

And he rhymed for me.

And I'm like, yo, beans, come here.

I'm like, yo, beans, listen to son.

And he rhymed for beans.

I'm like, Beans, like, yo, he got it.

And I remember calling Jay, like, yo, slip and slide, got somebody down here, cuz you might want to come check that out.

And the rest is history.

So.

Is it,

can you just like, okay, my man said, hey, check this out, Bleak.

Hey, you know, I get down.

Let me hear something.

Do you know right away?

Okay, he got it.

You can tell.

You can tell, especially if a person just rap right there on the spot.

A lot of people can rap on the spot, but can't rap on the beat.

A lot of people can rap on the beat and can't rap on the spot.

So a person who could do both right there is like, then he's telling you, I wrote X, Y, Z songs and that's songs that's on the chart.

Yeah.

Got to take it for consideration.

Now, as

a record head yourself,

what are you looking for in an artist?

No crybabies, because these artists need parenting.

These artists is babies.

I don't think the parents is finishing the job at home because they come here as grown men and want you to take care of them.

It's like, fam, you didn't sell a record and I'm supposed to do what for you?

I'm supposed to buy you a Rolex.

I'm supposed to do this, take you, put you in, you got to fly first class.

You know, you got to sell records to do that.

Right.

Like these guys come prima donna ready.

That's all I want to meet the real grinding artists that want to win from the bottom up.

That don't think you're supposed to just put me there and it's just all going to happen.

You said something very interesting.

You said the grind.

And it seems like people run from the grind now.

They don't want it, man.

They want the shine.

They don't want the grind.

They want to shine, man.

You can't have it.

They don't, no, you can't get one without the other.

In order to shine, you have to grind.

Right.

Because if you just shine it, somebody gonna take it from you.

So go on the block with no work.

Somebody gonna take that jury.

Quick.

Man.

And I've always wondered this, is that, and we kind of touched on it a little earlier.

Why is it that

this game, what is so, what is so enduring?

What is so fascinating?

So captivating that people that got got everything, they got everything to lose, nothing to gain by being in that situation.

What is it?

Bleak, you got to tell me something.

Give me something to say, hey, Shaw, this is what it is right here.

This is why they do it.

Why?

I think it's family, man.

They want that love that they never got at home.

No, these kids go outside and the streets show you the love that your family don't show you.

Like I said, I grew up without a father.

So I didn't know what being a man was until I got with the guys.

You know what I mean?

And you say certain things and then you get punched in the mouth for them things.

A lot of these kids don't get that today neither.

They just going out for the love and don't get the

other side of the love.

They just getting the love and they just go full-fledged and dive into it and like, this is my gang, that's my family.

And then when something go wrong, they realize the gang wasn't family or their gang.

Now you stuck.

Yeah.

And people looking at you crazy like, bro, you had it all.

You flying private jets.

You got APs and you got Patex and you got Odemars and you got all this.

You got Roses and you living in the high life.

And you want to do that?

They want to throw it up for the gang.

Do you realize that gang would switch places with you?

It would douche you out.

It would not even look your way.

That's right.

Like if you really if you switch roles,

90% of the gang members leave you right where you at if they get your opportunity.

100%.

Nobody wants to.

Anybody that grew up in that environment and lived that life for real, they don't want to do that, man.

You looking for ways to get out of that.

It's not fun.

It's not the glamorous life.

You don't fascinate fascinate that neither wow

when back in the day it basically you had two areas you had new york and you had cali yes but now you got you can find

anywhere anywhere it could be from alaska today yeah be like yeah eskimo flow

what

the influence because you know Atlanta now.

Oh, you got Houston.

You got all those guys.

You got Lil Baby and you got, obviously, they had Luda and T.I.

and

Gucci Maine.

Jeezy.

I think they got a power plant down there.

They just breeding.

Yeah, we got that thing.

ATL got that thing in the chokehold rock.

That's the Mecca.

You know, that's how New York was 20 years ago.

Now Atlanta got it, and I'm happy to see them because Atlanta was a small, vibrant city.

Now, if you look,

ATL is like a major city, like

LA or New York now, and it's amazing, man.

They got too much talent down there.

You know, you see artists in prisons.

Oh, man.

Bro,

how you go to jail and you got a couple million?

I mean,

what is it that

I'm trying to figure out?

Like, man, I got a couple, man.

I ain't really trying.

I ain't trying to do nothing sleazy or slimy.

I'm going to open up reputable businesses.

Yes.

A lot of these guys, like I said, they use rap.

to be who they always dreamed to be.

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That's it.

Yeah, that's it.

So, wow.

Movies.

You acted in a few movies.

Yes, man.

Is that something you would like to continue to do or you'd like?

Nab, somebody give me something cool.

I think I'm ready now.

Back then, I was a little scared.

They offered me a drum line.

I turned it down because I was scared, man.

I didn't think I could be a drummer and go back to the neighborhood.

I thought I would have 40 more fights.

But here's the thing.

You wouldn't have to go back to the neighborhood.

I'd have been gone.

Yeah, I'd have been in Bel Air somewhere.

I'd have been gone.

I didn't tell you I didn't have the vision.

Kevin Hart, Charlie Murphy, you were with them in Paper Soldiers.

Yes, yes.

What was that experience like?

Amazing, man.

That was my first time actually meeting Kevin.

I remember telling him on the set, like, yo, bro, you the funniest guy I ever met.

Like, yo, you're going to blow up in this business.

He's the hardest working mofo, too.

Yes, he is, man.

He don't stop.

That's why I say a lot of these guys people see on camera and big, they think they just chilling now, enjoying the money.

They understand they don't even get a chance to touch the money they they working so much.

Kev go from movie to TV show to commercials, back to movies, back to music.

He don't stop.

He doesn't.

Nah, he work all the time.

Kev want to be a B.

He want to be.

Yeah, he's a beautiful.

He's going to be with a.

Yeah.

Even Kev Hardy wants to be a billionaire.

He's going to get it.

Especially he heard the rock got it.

He going to get it.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah.

He coming.

Did you think Kev would...

Be what he when you was on that when you was on the set with him.

Yes, I knew man.

At that time, you know, comedians was dying.

You know, Chris, what's my man named Chris Tucker?

He went to Africa, they didn't want to curse no more.

You know, we just had, wasn't a lot of real good actors at that time, like real comedians that can act.

Like, you had comedians that can get up and do a stand-up comic show that's fly, but then they get on the screen and it's just not the same.

Right.

Kev could do both.

And I feel like we didn't have an actor who can really do both since Eddie Murphy.

Chappelle, I thought Chappelle was going to.

But you think Chappelle, what movie Chappelle had that?

Bad, you remember Chappelle and Professor Clark, another professor, Reggie?

Should I get him?

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He did with Tully and Blue Street.

Yeah, yeah, but that wasn't what them boy roles like.

No,

he wasn't a lead.

That's what I mean.

He didn't never have a lead role.

Like, he did cameo roles, supporting roles, which is good.

But come on, Kevin.

To carry the movie.

Yeah, that's what I mean.

Only Eddie Murphy did that.

They could get on stage and let the pants tell you, hey.

Pryor.

Pryor was the first.

Pryor was too young for that.

Oh, yo, you know, I remember his movies more than his standard.

Bruce's million, stir crazy, feeling.

Like, my favorite prior movie is See No Evil, Hear No Evil.

Nick Cannon came to the projects.

Nick Cannon was my dog.

That's still my dog.

You know, Nick Cannon used to hang with us back in the day.

He was always, you know, we was managed by the same manager.

Okay.

You know what I mean?

I knew Nick was going to be what he is today.

He was funny as hell back then.

Really?

So I knew.

I knew Nick.

And you know, rap was just a hobby for him.

Like the comic and telling jokes and acting was really what he really wanted to do.

Who else came to the projects that hung out that people would be surprised that came out and hung out with you in Marcy?

Oh, man.

Out from L.A., I remember Razcass came to Marcy one time with us.

You know, Foxy Brown been in Marcy a million times.

We had Oprah and Marcy.

Oprah?

Yeah, man.

Oprah came down to the hood.

And we had a lot of people in Marcy.

You know what I mean?

Like,

if I'm not mistaken, I'm trying to think.

You know, there's been so many people breezed through Marcy.

It's just like, I remember when back in the days when Rock Kim and Big Daddy Kane and them came through Marcy, it was a big deal, too.

Like, there's a lot of legends came through the project.

Hey, man, look.

Big Daddy Kane and Rock Him don't get the credit they deserve.

Oh, man, I'm the popular.

But you know, but you know, people, if it didn't happen, if it didn't happen today, people think it wasn't a good.

That's right.

Bro, look, you could rock him, Big Daddy Kane, KRS1.

Oh, my, oh, man.

KRS1, he's like, if you want to talk about battle rapping, KRS1 came out and tried to destroy a whole burrow yeah

he wasn't just dissing a rapper he tried to diss the whole burrow

how do you get Serena to start in your video oh that was Jay Jay made that happen I didn't know Serena I met her at the at the video shoot if you pay attention to the video we had Megan Good in the video too Serena was in the video we had the WNBA girls in the video you know shout out to all of them that was Jay man Jay was the plug I can understand why people say say that.

What?

Hole hooked that up.

Yeah.

Yeah, he was the plug, man.

I didn't know them.

And she played Jay-Z and Tennis.

Yeah, she played.

She was, yo, it's so crazy.

Like, we really filmed that, like, seeing

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75, 85 miles an hour.

And that was just, she was taking it easy.

Yeah,

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No, heck no.

No, it was too fast.

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And she put spit on it.

She kicked it.

She going, batte.

Yo, and remember, that was young Serena.

Before the babies, before the marriage, all of that.

That was straight.

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Did you really have endorsement deals with like Jamal Crawford and Larry Fitzgerald?

No, no, no.

Those just my guys.

That was your guy?

Yeah, Jamal Crawford, my bro.

You know, I just always hung out with them going to the game, especially when he was a knicker-baccer.

Right.

You know, that's my guy.

I always support him.

He was in my video for like that.

Yes.

That's my guy.

But I never had no endorsement endorsement deals.

Jay tied me up, Rockaware, all that stuff.

I got to wear that stuff.

You Knicks.

You thought they were going to do it this year?

I thought so, but I knew the Knicks was going to nick.

Come on, man.

I'm a New Yorker.

The Knicks is going to nick eventually.

Hopefully, next year we get over that.

Bro, how y'all fired a coach and ain't got nobody in mind?

That's the Knicks gonna nick.

I'm telling you, the Knicks is gonna nick.

I don't know what they think and what they doing over there.

They got my guy West in office, though.

He gonna get it.

Yeah.

What have you learned most about money?

That is not the most important thing.

Family is more important than money.

Money is something that makes life easier, but it doesn't make life better.

You know, love makes life better.

The people that you care, the loved ones around you, is way more important than money, because the people that keep you focused, you'll always be able to make money.

You can't always

meet loved ones, you know?

But you can always make money as long as you got hustle in your heart.

But do families sometimes change when you get money?

Oh, yes, definitely.

See, now when I'm talking about family, I'm talking about the wife, the kids.

I'm not talking about the cousins.

Oh, you ain't talking about the cousins.

It's a different family now.

Yeah, so the cousins and all that, they think, you know, you got it.

Like, and it's like, I don't go to work to give my money away.

Right.

You can come to work with me.

You can come make something with me, come find a position in something that I'm doing and come get some money with me.

But I'll be damned if I'm going to go to work and just give it away.

Right.

So, you know, but the loved ones, my wife, my daughter, my son, like, that love right there is just unmatched and that's what gives me the strength the you know and motivation to keep going every day to know what i'm leaving this for

when you don't give fam you know man you got it you got it okay you don't give it no more or something you know if it's funny you go back man i don't know what he did with all that money i gave it to you both that's right i gave it all to you and then when you get to that part no one got a solution no no one want to help nobody grabbing an idea nothing man if i had it this is what i would do no you wasn't exactly That's what everybody say.

If.

I hate the F people.

Yeah.

That's why I think I love in my mind.

If it was a fifth, we all be drunk.

Remember, as a cash, she's like, she's crazy.

What's she talking about?

But now I know what she's talking about.

You absolutely.

What do you think some of the worst purchases you made?

Cars.

Cars is the worst thing to buy, Phil, because it's no...

It's no, you don't gain

as soon as you drive off the line, you lost money.

Like, you literally can buy a car today and make it U-turn and bring it right back, and it's less $20,000 less than what you're doing.

Yeah, yeah, like, bro, you saw me make a U-turn.

Yeah, like, I didn't even leave the lot.

Yeah, so I feel like cars are the worst.

And jury, that doesn't matter.

Like, do you buy the right jury, the right Rolex, the right chain, the right piece?

Then it adds, but you don't need 50 of them, though, bleak.

No, but you need a few.

You need a few.

Bro, I mean, you know, like burrows.

So

you got Jada, Fat Joe, recently ripped viral saying a lot of rappers are living paycheck to paycheck.

Oh.

Is that true?

Oh, yeah.

A lot of rappers, definitely.

A lot of these new age rappers and back in the day.

They didn't make the money back in the day that they get.

And today you have to be a major, a major star.

You have to be able to sell things other than records to get the money today because it's the other companies that's giving these guys the money.

It's not the record labels that's giving these guys the money.

It's the endorsement deals.

With the collab.

You see Travis Scott, he's with Nike.

He's with Oldemar Spaghetti.

Yeah, he's with Odemar Spaghetti.

Yes, like, you know what I mean?

Those deals is what's giving these guys the major, major millions.

But as far as like a regular rapper, yeah, they're depending on the show right now.

They praying to promote a call them, the phone ring, and they get a gig.

But I feel like rappers is...

It's too much opportunity with your money today to do too many things.

Like all these businesses.

Like, a lot of these kids is entrepreneurs.

They just don't know how to get into the right business.

Right.

Hove wrapped the line about you.

He said, as long as I'm alive, Bleak's a millionaire.

And even if I die, he's in my will somewhere.

Yes.

I love that.

That's my brother, man.

You know, I love it.

Like, it made the road a little bit rough because now I'd go talk to a DJ, like, hey, I need you to play this record.

They're like, yeah, but Hove said you're good, fam.

Take care of me.

Like, what you mean?

I still got to work.

He said I'm in the will.

That means he got to go.

Yeah.

He ain't give it to me now.

I still got to earn it.

So

in order to get your music played on the radio, you got to break them off?

A lot of people used to be on it like that.

Like, yo, because you know, DJs,

it ain't, you know, certain people like to say payola.

Me, I look at it different.

If you're an artist, right, if you're a DJ, just put yourself in the DJ's shoes and I'm an artist.

I'm trying to get you to play my record.

Now, you know, this record blows up because you played it.

My life changed.

You still just the radio DJ.

Oh, man.

You're like, dog, I'm going to help you blow up, but you're not going to look out for me.

You're not going to let me DJ a few shows.

It's one hand watch the other business, basically.

That's what it is.

It ain't really pay to play my record.

It's like, hey, dog, you got an opportunity.

Show me that I got opportunity with you before I support you.

When people, when you have money, bleak, everybody thinks like, so, man, you got so much money.

You can lend somebody 500.

You can lift somebody 2,500.

You can lift somebody, Lee, a Lynn.

No, You can give somebody because you ain't lending no money.

No, yeah.

I'll only give money that I don't care if I get it back.

Because I already know I ain't gonna get it back.

One of the best pieces of advice I ever heard is: if you love your friends, never loan the money.

Nope.

Like, just give it to them.

Yep.

Don't expect anything back.

So I live by that.

Like, I love my friends.

So if they ask me for something, just don't put borrow on it because you know

you're not going to pay me back.

Nope.

And when I want my money back, it's like, make, take your funky ass 20.

Why my money funky now?

I ain't no money how to smell.

When I gave it to you, it wasn't stink.

But, you know, and people look at like the internet was going crazy.

Man, if I was worth $3 billion, I was worth $4 billion.

And when Cuz came up to me, I break him off.

Oh, yeah, right.

Everybody say it.

You know, it's always the agenda.

Spend other people's money.

Yes, like, until you live that life and put yourself in that person's shoes, man, stop with the comparison.

Just live your life and enjoy it, man.

Yeah.

That's the advice I got for people.

Live Live and enjoy.

Don't worry about what others do.

Control what you do.

Man, you know they can spend other people's money.

Quick, too.

That's why they get rich in these games so fast.

You go look at GTA or something.

These guys got mansions, 400 million.

Like, man, how you hustle harder in the game than in the street?

Okay.

Do say.

Yes.

Jay helped turn that into a billion-dollar yes.

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Yes, but at first, you know, this is my baby right here.

And I give all the credit in the world of my wife for me even being a part of this group.

Yeah, because I was at that paycheck to paycheck moment, you know, forking the road.

And I'm looking at my wife, like, yo, shows not coming in like that, not dropping albums like that.

Like, I gotta figure out what I'm gonna get into.

And she was like, Yo, your brother owns a hundred different businesses.

You don't wanna get play a role in nothing but the music.

And I'm like, Yeah, let me go talk to bro.

And when I went and had the meeting with Jay, and he's like, Yo, I got this new brand called Douce.

Let me see what you can do with it.

And boy, I took it to the moon,

turned it up in every hood in New York, New Jersey, Miami, Atlanta, and we just went.

You got to get out.

Yeah.

I mean, I mean, for what we take this, because like you said,

being in the spirits business, I thought, yo, can you just put it out there?

Yeah, they pick it up.

No, no, no.

You got to work.

You got to do those.

You got to go to the test, the testings, the taste testings.

You got to go to them bar meetings with the

distributors.

Yes, you got to go to the, you got to have somebody, what is it?

The guy doing the mixed salads, all it is.

We had a mixed salad.

You got to go to GSM, general sales meetings.

you got to be in front of them, and you got to talk, and you got to talk.

You can't promote the brand.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, my name on this, yeah, so I got to tell you

it's a VSOP, I got to tell you that it's four to six years of age, I got to tell you what's in it, it's an uni block grape and a petite champagne.

In order to be called a cognac, it has to start in that region for at least two years.

That's right, it has to go to the copper park, it got to be in the wooden barrel.

That's right.

If it don't go in the wooden barrel, it ain't gonna come out brown.

No, it's gonna be clear, we're gonna be calling it.

so and and so they're like man you really i said bro it got my name on it it got my money in this yeah and you got to be involved hands-on ten toes down like you got to do all of this stuff because it ain't gonna sell itself no and people don't know what's good just by looking at no so you have to introduce them to what's good and because you know a lot of times you know you've been eating something or it's like anything you've been eating hamburgers for a long time you don't realize how good steak is that's right you might not good realize how good chicken is so you got to introduce them and say hey just give it a try bro give it a try.

That's right.

And I always tell people, man,

with Douce, I always tell people, you can mix Douce with water and it's going to go.

So whatever your preference is,

I feel like with this, we became the tequila cognac.

We go fine with, we go with anything.

I don't care what you pour us in.

You can pour us in

grape juice.

We're going to make it happen.

Trust me.

I don't care what you mix with.

We go with.

I went to Cognac region.

I was over there.

And And Cognac France.

Oh, man.

And the thing is, and I was like,

they was getting it out.

And, you know, they had the chef over there and he's preparing it.

And they have ginger ale.

I was like, damn, they knew I like ginger ale.

But that's why they drink it because that's right.

Yeah, they poured ginger ale in it.

Yes.

You know what's still ill, though, what I found out about going to Cognac France.

See, I'm not even going to bring this up because I don't want to start no controversy with these other brands, even though we don't care about this other brand.

But, you know, Hennessy is made in Cognac France.

I do.

But it's not sold in France.

You know that, right?

It's not sold nowhere outside of America.

We're the only ones where it's sold that.

I just want to know.

But we don't, we don't, we, hey.

We ain't promoting that though.

We don't, we don't, look, we don't talk bad about other companies.

We just talk good about our companies.

That's right.

I'm just letting you know.

You go to London somewhere, do say it's there.

You, you, uh.

Van Lathan, you had a back and forth with.

Oh, a quick one, you know, because he took a shot at the big homie and it's like, you know, they showed you love, bro.

I sent you at the brunch, seen you at Mad Rock Nation events, and you see Jay with a little hiccup.

You know, somebody falsely accusing him, and you want to take a shot, like,

he's on that side, like, he's that type of guy.

I didn't like that.

Come on, bro.

I didn't like that.

He lucky it was on Instagram, so I'd have seen him.

He'd have met the real me.

He wouldn't have met Memphis bleak.

He met Malik.

No, no, no, no.

No, no.

You got to be bleak.

Like,

you got to be above that.

But when it comes to that, that's personal, bro.

And there's no joking with that.

Right.

It's no play play with that, bro.

Like, and that's how I felt in that situation.

You're a married man now.

Yeah.

What did marriage do for Bleak?

Raised me.

It grew me up.

Made me grow up.

Like I was a grown-up.

I was living, but my wife made me feel alive again.

And I feel like she put me back on track.

When I thought my train derailed, she showed me the tracks just how to turn.

All we had to do was go that way.

And she brought perspective back to my life.

Makes you think about something other than self-huh.

That's right.

Definitely.

Go home and you know you're working towards, so you're working for something.

But marriage is not easy.

It's a full, it's an everyday job.

Getting married is easy.

Yes.

Staying married is what's hard.

You got to work at that.

It's a full-time job.

And I feel like, you know, me being who I am, I'm a spontaneous guy.

So it's hard to lose the interest with me.

You might wake up and see a horse outside.

Hey, we go on horseback rides.

You're like, what the hell?

So.

And that's what, you know, people that's been married for a long period of time, they like Shannon, you have to work work to stay married.

The person that you married on a Saturday, she's going to wake up Sunday.

She's not that same person.

That's right.

You're not going to be married.

She's going to wake up Monday.

And you're not the same man neither.

Like, we all go through our changes and phases, and you know, we grow and we like things different.

And

I feel like having someone to share that experience with is the beautiful part of life to me.

But it's easy to say effort.

Yes, it's easy to, it's easy.

Why?

You get mad shit.

I'm out.

I mean this shit.

And not kids.

Oh, man.

I love them.

My kids is the best part of me.

What type of dad of Bleak is Bleak?

Oh, I'm the fun dad.

I'm the dad that do everything I always wanted as a kid.

Because I told you, I never had a father.

I never said the word dad in my life.

So when I first had my son, I didn't even like him calling me dad.

He's like, what?

Call me Bleak.

I used to be like, dad didn't even sound right.

So then, you know, as I got older and realizing the responsibility of a dad, it's like, wait a minute, call me dad.

Dad.

Called me dad.

You know me.

I earned that.

You wanted them friend dads?

No.

Because you know because because in today's time you know that i i'm my my my dad is my best friend my mom's my best friend no i'm dad yes your best friend lives down the street or he lives such and such i'm i'm the understanding parent you could come talk to me and tell me anything but don't talk to me like i'm your friend we're never gonna do that only person i say with my daughter though

She run the show.

She the boss.

I don't run nothing.

My daughter is the boss.

No one told me when you have a daughter

that you have a CEO, that you really raising the little CEO, like telling you what to do.

Where you at?

Who said you go there?

It's the best.

I love it.

It is.

And, you know, I told my kids, I said, our dynamic won't ever change.

That's right.

I'm always going to be dad.

You're always going to be the child.

That's right.

No matter how old you get.

No matter how old you get.

Let's stay on that level.

Don't ever think we see eye to eye.

No, no, we not.

No.

We not like for never.

You'll never have the experience in life we ever had.

Right.

Because we made it that way that you won't have to.

Right.

So, right.

Just respect that.

I think, you know, as the kids got older, my kids got older.

They have it under.

They're grown now.

And I'm a grandfather.

My son has two, has a boy and a girl.

And he's starting to see, like, damn, man, she's rough.

I got a, I got a mortgage.

I got a car note.

I got daycare.

Man, my dad handled it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

No, your dad didn't handle it with ease.

You just didn't see how hard your dad had to do.

Yeah.

One thing I learned, though, having a daughter, we assholes to our sons yeah like we rough little boy fall back get up stop crying man you bitching baby fall ah come here baby come on uh how is it it's okay i realize well having her is like wow i was fouling my son gotta invite him over

what do you what do you think some of the best advice that you've given your kids thus far

To my son, like my daughter, she's only six, so I can't really give her this.

She ain't paying attention to, she only want to hear about Bluey right now.

Don't tell me nothing.

But my son, I feel like to any young man growing up, the three things in life you don't play with, a man, family, money,

or his livelihood.

You just like, you just stay clear of those three things and you got a clear path in life.

You don't play with a person's love, his money, or just play with a situation that he takes serious.

And I feel like you'll breeze through life really easy.

A lot of these kids don't know that.

They get in money problems with people, messing with other people, girls or wives, and things go crazy like a man will kill you for his family yeah people pay play too much now that's right we grew up in a time people didn't play like that no it wasn't no pranking you see all this pranking on the internet you somebody coming down the escalator they touch their girl or they

bro you pucks up a what you trying to do bro you trying to squab say bro bro it's crazy everybody don't play the same no they don't man and remember i'm from brooklyn where you died for a stare back in the day you look at somebody to what you looking at

and it was on like so touch the hand of your girl oh my Jesus Christ you must want to meet the morgue tissue

and like you know and I tell people what is joke to you is deaf to somebody that's right everybody ain't playing everybody don't play the same no and that's why I told my son don't don't be out here playing with people no

looking back on your career if there's one thing that you could do differently what would it be

Not be so focused on my friends.

I felt like I was one of those guys who felt like

this is forever.

My crew, we forever.

I need my boys, my guys.

And then I look back now, ain't not one of them there no more.

It's like all the guys are starting, where y'all at?

But you know, when people see the roller coaster going up, they with you.

When it's going down, they jump off, jump off.

You know what I'm saying?

They even start to go back in, they try to get back on.

And now

we good.

Now we got the new crew, the people who really work and who earned their spot.

You know what I'm saying?

So that's what I would say:

not to put so much focus and love on my crew, man.

I feel like I focused on them more, their happiness more than mine.

Right.

You realize now loyalty was probably a one-way street.

Definitely, definitely.

Not everybody look at loyalty the same way as you do.

Like, just because I'm loyal to a person don't mean he got to be loyal to me.

You know, it's certain things I do in life that Jay will be like, damn, I ain't know you did that, but it's certain things he did.

Like, I wouldn't know he did that.

Like, I didn't get the call we was dating the beef with Nas.

I just show up to the show, Nas there.

Like, oh, shit.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

But it's still brotherly love where I know his intent behind it.

Ain't malice intention behind it.

You know what I mean?

So you have to know that part of friendship and understand where each other stand.

And I feel like when you young, like I got that understanding with Jay because he's older and he was able to talk to me, teach me certain things of growing up as we grew.

But when you equally with somebody, y'all from high,

no one is going to respect one with more authority.

And, you know, a lot of people don't, they look at you like, just because you famous don't make you my boss or make you bigger than me.

And you'd be like, what, fam?

I'm just telling you something right.

Fame don't got nothing to do with this.

I'm trying to give you some advice that you probably haven't gotten.

Exactly.

And, you know, egos, like I said, egos, man, pride

will destroy a relationship faster than the fire.

Wow.

Bleak, thanks for coming by.

Is there anything you want to promote while you're here?

Ah, man.

Album, whatever.

Album in stores right now.

Apartment 3D, make sure you cop that.

If you smoke that weed, make sure you come get your mind right with My Right Exotics.

Know we got Do Say.

And if you ever out here in Vegas, man, we got an Italian restaurant, Roma Kitchen, and we just opened up a bar called Tuscan Patio Bar and Grill.

Pull up,

Memphis Bleak.

My God, much love, man.

Thank you, bro.

Love.

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