BEST OF NFL Week 2 Part 1: Micah Parsons is UNFAIR + Joe Burrow OUT!

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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the Best of NFL Week 2 Highlights! Unc and Ocho break down all the biggest games, including Micah Parsons’ dominance with the Packers, Joe Burrow sidelined 3 months with a toe injury, and much more!

 

0:00 - Packers vs Commanders

16:06 - Bengals vs Jaguars 

37:26 - Colts vs Broncos

42:27 - Seahawks vs Steelers


48:32 - Cowboys vs Giants

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All right, the Packers beat the Commanders, Ocho, 27-18.

Green Bay moves to 2-0.

The Packers have now beaten 2FC, two NFC East contending.

Well, the 2 NFC contending teams in back-to-back weeks.

Ocho, what did you make of this ball game?

Jordan Love was 19 of 31, 292, two touchdowns.

Two touchdowns, no interceptions.

Jaden Daniels was 24 of 42, 200 yards, two touchdowns, no interceptions, but he was hounded all night long.

They pressured him relentlessly, and they took him down four times.

The commanders were unable to get a running game going.

Oh, Joe, they had 19 rush attempts, 51 yards.

They took the running game away, and they unleashed the hounds on Jaden Daniels, and they win the ball game 27-18.

What did you like about what you saw from the pack?

Listen, from the Packers, everything.

Obviously,

Michael Parsons was a story.

Jordan Love and those receivers were the story.

They're what we heard about leading up to this game.

But to me, the back end, the back end defensively for the Packers, Xavier McKinney, Brother Nixon on the one side, they were, to me, the most surprising, which popped out on film, which is one of the reasons why I think the Packers are going to go very far this year, not only into the playoffs, but make that run in the NFC to contend for that Super Bowl championship.

Unk.

This is the what?

The Packers haven't started 2-0 since what, I think, 2020, if I'm not mistaken.

And they look phenomenal, not just on offense in Jordan Love.

Let's the receivers did exactly what we expected them to do.

I'm hoping Jaden Reed is okay.

I think his collarbone, he might have fractured his collarbone.

You can tell with the way he fell and they put that weight on it.

Yep.

You already know.

But everybody else stepped up.

Everybody else stepped up offensively.

Jordan Love

did his thing.

Josh Jacobs did his thing.

But that back in, that back in for the Packers, obviously not having to,

the poses and the threats that the Washington Commanders did have were nullified.

They were nullified because that back end played extremely well.

They sitting on routes, sitting on plays.

Normally, that another team, you're not sitting on them.

Well, they know

they don't have to cover long because they know the pressure is going to come.

So they know what Rashawn Gary.

They know what Van Ness.

They know what Michael Parsons.

They know what those guys, Wyatt and all those guys, is going to generate a pass rush.

And we don't have to hold up long.

So, hey, until they show us they can hold up and there's a chance we get a double move.

Okay, but we sitting on everything.

Hey, we're going to stand.

Hey, we're going to stand back here, and we don't believe you have time to run bias.

So, if you run bias, hey, the coach is going to say, that's on me.

So, you'll have to back up and play up, have to play up a little bit more honestly.

But when you got that kind of relentless pressure.

And the only thing that really saved them a lot tonight, because Jaden Daniels does have legs because they were coming.

He did not have a whole lot of time to throw the football.

And once you neutralize that run, now you've made the commanders one-dimensional.

Once you make a team to one-dimensional, now they're at your mercy because guess what?

We already know you can't run it when you want to.

We control the terms of this agreement.

And the terms is you're going to have to throw.

We know you have to throw and we're coming to get you.

Yeah.

There were two plays with a defensive back.

Brother Nixon for the Green Bay Packers that stuck out to me on film.

He was playing off at seven.

He did his three-step read.

He's not even looking at there.

He's not even looking at the receiver.

Receivers coming off full speed.

His eyes locked in on Jaden Dales.

Yeah.

Three steps went.

Those eyes shifted back to the receiver and he stayed so fundamentally sound, Uncle.

Didn't panic and his pedal never came out of his pedal.

Dude ran the route.

Dude tried to run a stop route.

Man, he broke on that.

It almost got picked going the other way.

Then came back later on in the game and say, okay, we see what you're trying to do.

We're going to study you now since you're so aggressive and you're jumping everything short.

Unknown.

They tried to pump him.

He stabbed just a little bit just to throw the timing off a little bit.

Speed turn,

got right back in the hip side,

knocked the ball down.

Those two plays to me stuck out tremendously for me because I understand how difficult it is to transition like that as a DB and having that eye discipline and being technically sound and savvy, being patient to be able to do what I saw tonight, no two plays,

it's easy to do in practice, but seeing them execute it in a game, knowing that the pressure is going to get there, man, hands down, that backing to me for the Packers stuck out on film.

Back-to-back weeks last week, they allowed 246 yards to the Detroit Lions,

fewer than 250 yards to the

Washington Commanders.

That's back-to-back weeks.

That's the first two games of the season since 1995.

Michael Parsons generated a team high eight pressures.

He had a half a sack on 37 pass rush attempts in the second game with the Packers.

Six of Parsons pressures came in the second half.

Look, he's an edge guy.

You know, and I understand they got a lot of edge guys.

And so you're going to have sometimes guys going to have to line up inside and it's all congested in there, but he needs to be in space.

Yeah.

So he can use that quickness.

He can use that ability to move and bend those edges.

I saw the thing that was showing, kind of showing like DT at a 40-degree angle, Michael Parsons at a 42-degree angle.

Both can bend the edges.

But I think that's the

thing is, Ocho, you're right.

That back end looked really good.

But when you get that kind of push up front, you ain't got a hold up long.

Right.

You ain't got to hold up long.

Kraft had an unbelievable job at the tight end position.

He had 124 yards the most since Richard Rodgers in week 13, 2015 against Detroit.

That was the miracle in Motown, the Harold Mary game, Mojo.

They've been losing the whole game, and then Aaron Rodgers rolls and Richard Rodgers plus the Hail Mary.

But defensively, there's nothing not to like.

Look,

Jordan Love, he was late on one throw.

He should have another touchdown early in the ball game.

He's just late.

Oh,

to Matthew Golden, the one to Matthew Golden.

That was EV6, and it allowed the DB to recover.

Yep.

I don't know why he put that much air, but it's okay.

He looked like he tried to touch it instead of just let it go.

Just let it go.

Ain't nobody over there, bro.

Just go ahead and throw that.

And then he had another when he put too much on it because Golden had split the seams.

Yep.

And he probably had, probably, he probably should have used a little,

a shorter club.

He had too much club.

You know what?

Just in comparison,

Matthew Golden runs a 4-4, right?

And I look at that play.

I look at that play.

And this is where I say, where I think Tyreek Hill is so special.

I didn't mean to bring up Tyreek, but a play like that, a ball like that, where Tyreek is in that position, where he split that safety in that corner, he makes that catch.

Yeah, but that's the deal between, I mean, people run up under that ball.

But that's the difference between 4-2 and 4-4, though.

Yeah, you're right.

He's going to run up under that.

But there's a good chance

if he hitches, Tyreek is going to outrun it.

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

So the thing is, maybe in a situation like that,

you can't take the hitch.

You just got to basically, when you just let it go.

Because Tyree, with a free release?

Yeah.

Oh, yeah.

With free.

Nah.

I mean, because the thing is,

you got to make Tyree drop step.

You got to make him do something.

You can't just let the man have a free release like he run 100.

Me to just free go.

He gone.

Well,

you really asking for trouble.

Yeah, but you had to be really impressed with the Packers.

Look, I'm not overly concerned against Washington.

That was a buzz.

So that was a short week.

And that's no excuse.

But if you can't run the football against a team that can generate that kind of pressure, you're going to be in for a long night because

you got to give them something else to think about, Ocho.

Right now, they're not thinking about anything.

They're not running about Eckler.

They're not worrying about Merritt, Koski Merritt.

They're not worried about any of those guys because what you've shown is that you can't run the football against our front four.

So now

we'll worry about the running.

Hey, y'all hell of that.

Running a linebacker, y'all hell of that.

we going hunting yeah they did a great job of keeping jaden daniels in the pocket they did a great job of when he escaped the pocket because they got guys that can run they got guys that can hunt hey and and the coach turned them loose hey

these dogs going hunting and uh they did a great job of tracking jaden daniels tonight uh 24 42 200 yards two touchdowns he didn't turn it over but he was under constant pressure uh

Michael Parsons had eight pressures alone.

He sacked him four times.

So they probably pressured him another, you know, probably 12, 13 times tonight.

That's exactly what I'm going to ask you.

Do you see the presence, the presence of Michael Parson, how he made that defense?

Obviously, obviously, listen, they were really good, even if he wasn't there, but his addition to that and speeding up everything else for whoever they're playing offensively, being destructive, throwing off the timing, helping that back in where the DVs right now.

But

they looking like Hall of Famers out there now.

Yeah.

Looking like Hall of Famers, where it seemed as if they're making all the plays.

But if you don't understand the game, you're looking from the outside, looking in, you'll be like, oh my goodness, boy, these boys back there is all world.

All world.

You're right.

But you can do that, Ocho.

You look at the secondary when you had Reggie, when Reggie was in Philly.

You look at those guys, all those guys that were, because you had Reggie, you had Clyde Simmons, you had

J Rested Soul, Jerome Brown.

Yeah.

Look at what you had.

So EA and them back there.

They didn't have to hold up long.

No, they didn't have to hold up long.

Yeah.

So the ball is going to come out quick.

You got Reggie.

You got Reggie on one side.

You got Jay, you got Clyde on another side.

You got Jay Boogie.

Hey, who Eric Allen was on one side, right?

Yeah.

You remember who was on the other side of Eric Allen, or do you remember?

It was the defense.

Let me see if I can remember.

They were

Reggie, Clyde, Jerome Brown,

Byron.

I think Byron Evans, Evans, Seth Jorner, EA, Muddy Waters.

I can't, off the top of my head, Ocho,

I can't remember at all.

I can see Eric Allen with that 21-on, clear as day.

Yeah.

Clear as day.

I can't remember who was on the other side, Ocho.

Yeah.

But

they had a very good defense.

Man, you look, EA,

he was in New Orleans also.

Played in New Orleans.

What?

You you talk about on the it must be on the back end because I don't remember that.

I know you don't

uh nah, he finished up if I'm not mistaken.

I think he finished up with the Raiders.

You remember him with the Raiders?

I remember him, I remember him with the Raiders.

I remember that, and I definitely remember.

I think he

went from Philly to New Orleans,

New Orleans to the Raiders.

Okay,

can you check that

Eric Allen?

I think he went from uh Philly to New Orleans

and then New Orleans to

New Orleans the Raiders.

Yeah.

And

if I'm not mistaken, he was

when they had the

Dome Patrol.

Right.

When they had Pat Swillings, Ricky Jack,

Vaughn Johnson, and they had Sam Mills, the Philippines.

Middle linebacker Sam Mills.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Sam.

I think EA was there with them.

So he's always had a pass rush in front of him.

That's why he was sitting on everything.

He had the record before Deron Bland broke it with

those five return touchdowns.

Because EA was sitting on everything.

But

they were loaded.

They were a very good team.

Now, he was an outstanding defensive back.

He had great skills.

He could take the ball.

He could take the ball away.

And, you know,

he had great fees.

He was small, smallish,

but he realized he didn't have to hold up long.

But a lot of those guys had,

I think Ricky Jack had already gone.

If I'm not sure, I think Swill might have still been there.

I think Sam Mills at that point in time had already gone to

Carolina.

But

he cut his teeth over in Philly.

That's where, you know.

Most of the people remember him from, but he had an outstanding career.

Jordan Love finished 9 of 15, 175 yards.

Both touchdowns came against against the commanders, Blitz.

On throws of 10 plus air yards against the Blitz, Love was six of eight for 144 yards and a touchdown.

His 14.5 air yards per attempt is a career high mark.

Ocho, did you like what you saw from Jordan Love?

Yeah, absolutely.

Because the whole point of Blitzing is to throw the timing off and get to you before you can get the ball out.

Jordan Love is doing exactly what veteran quarterbacks do and understand, okay, based on what I see, based on tendencies, based on watching film, I already know what's coming.

Once Jordan Love makes his points, he communicates with that offensive line, and they see what's coming.

No matter how much you're bluffing and rotating and doing all that, all that shenanigans, oh, we know what you're getting ready to do.

And when a quarterback knows it ahead of time, you get the kind of night you got from him when it comes to passing the ball when they're blitzing.

I'm not sure what percentage that the commander did blitz, but I guarantee you, 98% of the time that they did, Jordan Love completed that pass.

Yeah, well, you're right, Ocho.

You try to throw the timing off, but those receivers are so quick.

Did you see that touchdown by Dobbs at the goal line?

Yes, hey, dude.

I'm listening.

I'm not a defensive back, I'm not a defensive back, but I love defensive back play.

All he did was stick to the outside.

Why are you even going for the first move?

You got to have patience like Sally May.

Keep your heels on the goal line and don't go nowhere.

What you

moving for?

He didn't even make a move.

Um, because Dobbs did was stab outside and come in, and you

flying

because when you study green bay what did what did devontae adam what route did devontae adams catch so much but it got that fade stopping that speed out

yeah yeah okay you're right you're right you're right you're right hey how many times we don't see devontae adams run that two-yard out for a touchdown yeah you better go for it right you're right because it goes because here's the thing ocho if that man run that speed out and you're not close they're like bro what you waiting on why why you playing in the c man right well that's a really that's a really hard And that's why I say, Ocho, if you up there,

if you up there, Ocho, are you going to press or not?

Because if you're up in a press position, you got to get your hands on the guy.

You let a guy free release.

If you up there, you let a guy free release.

You beat.

Yeah.

Especially down there because you get to, oh, the man ain't got but two, three yards, go for a touchdown.

So he completed.

He in the end zone.

You're right.

You're right.

Listen, I never understood what DBs.

There's one DB that I've seen that's been able to do it because he's so disciplined.

And outer movement is so good where he can be up and press and not touch you at all because he can stay in front of you the whole time.

And that's Denzel Ward.

Obviously, you have other players that are good that do it a little differently, but they love to use their hands to maintain a leverage throughout the riot throughout the route and stay on top of you.

But

listen, you got to, if you're going to get up there and press, put your hands on him and throw the timing off.

Right.

But put your hands because it throws the timing off right away.

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Joe Burrow Joe Burrow.

Who?

Hey, wait, who?

Who?

Who?

The Bengals beat the Jags 3127.

Joe Burrow is dealing with a left toe injury that could require surgery.

Images of Burrow left toe injury is being sent to noted foot specialist Dr.

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to be reviewed according to Adam Schefter.

If surgery is deemed necessary, it is expected to sideline Burrow for approximately three months.

If, the key word was if they sent the photo to the doctor.

The doctor.

Ain't no way in Haley made no goddamn diagnosis.

That quit.

He ain't made no diagnosis that quit.

Oh, Joe, you make it seem like I'm the doctor.

i like like i'm the x-ray doctor but i'm just saying i don't i don't like the way adam shift and i don't like the way they report stuff and and they they they talk about it could be grade three and he might need surgery he might be out he out might be out three months listen it could be grade two grade two ain't number three four weeks and you back out there it could be great hold on let me finish it could be grade one

and it's day to day

With today's technology, as advanced as technology is, and the treatments and the ways to get players back healthy and getting them back on the field much faster than when we were playing.

We don't know.

And I don't like the fact that when they make these reports, they say the worst case scenario.

It ain't got to be why you listen.

Where you got this from?

Let me ask you a question, Ocho.

Who reported this?

Adam Shafter?

Where he get this from, ocho?

Tell the chat where he get this from.

That it was even his toe.

Where did he get this from, ocho?

Hold on, wait, wait, wait, wait.

Let let me let me before you before you go on can i say something real quick when i saw joe sit up on the sideline right i mean on the field when he turned over and the doctors came out and he got up i knew his toe was hurt can i tell you why when he got up to walk off instead of walking normal he was walking his left foot on his heel so he didn't put no pressure on it so i say you know what may have made a message how we know it wasn't arched

no no no because if it was arched you wouldn't put no pressure on on the back of your heel.

You know what I'm trying to say?

When you walk like that, you don't let your foot hit the bottom.

You don't let your toe hit the bottom.

I said, God damn, he dislocated or jammed his toe.

When he got tackled, he was facing front down, right?

Whoever let whatever lineman landed on him in the back, jammed the goddamn toe in the goddamn ground.

So I just don't like, if you're going to report something,

at least.

How did Adam Schefter know they were sending it to noted foot special Robert Anderson?

Well, I mean, obviously, they let him know that.

so what else did they let so what else did so they they let him know that

listen they they did not know they did not there's no way that doctor or that foot specialist gave a diagnosis and goddamn five six hours after the game hold on that ocho no but their doctors did

and that's why they sent it to noted robert anderson for a second opinion a second opinion but i i i wait let me let me finish man let me let me text joe let me text burrows man let me text burrows and Listen, I can get it right from the horse's mouth.

Hold on.

I think the thing is, Ocho, is that, look, my brother had that injury.

And he had, and look, I'm going to tell you some guys that's had that injury.

Ask Time.

Time had that injury.

And Time said he was never the same.

Jonathan Ogden had that injury.

He retired.

Jack Youngblood had that injury.

He retired.

My brother had that injury.

He shot that toe up every week.

He ended up having to put a steel plate in there so the foot wouldn't bend, the toe wouldn't bend.

because you

and he ended up having surgery after the season.

And it was about three, it was about three or four months.

Okay, hold on, hold on.

I'm texting Burrow right now.

And he's going to answer me.

You're going to answer me.

But I see, listen, that's worst case scenario.

You hear me?

What you're saying, what you talk about, this is worst case scenario.

And we talk about a quarterback.

We're talking about a quarterback.

That is, he's somewhat of a dual threat.

He has great, great pocket presence.

He has great escapability.

He's not Lamar Jackson.

He's not Josh Allen, but he can move around the pocket.

Now, I also want to note, and I want to add that Joe holds on to the ball too long.

You got to know when the journey's over.

You have to know when the journey's over, especially in that case, in that play right there.

Nobody's open.

You know, it's okay to go down.

It's okay to take that sec and live to see another down.

It's hard because

he wants to make a play, Ocho.

It's hard.

I know he wants to make a play, but again, now we're back on the table getting.

But that's his thing.

Oh, Joe, he's going to be, oh, he's going to be injured.

You resigned to that fact, Ocho.

He's going to be injured, Ocho.

Every other year, he's going to be injured.

It's football.

It's football.

The game of football is a violent sport.

Injuries happen.

It's a part of the game.

What you want to do is you want to minimize those injuries the best way you can.

The best way you can.

And I would love for Joe to say, you know what?

Ain't nothing out there right now.

I'm going to go down.

I'm going to take this sack.

Live to play another game.

Let's get back to it.

Ocho,

I agree with you.

I totally agree.

But here's the thing with a quarterback.

What does a quarterback do?

He drop back.

What else do he have to do?

Shift his motion.

And so when you start messing with that foot, now you start messing with your mechanics.

Yeah.

And the one thing you don't want to do is mess with those mechanics.

Because the one thing with quarterbacks try to prevent and stay out of is developing bad habits and when you start having injury then you guess what you do ocho you develop bad habits

bad habit to compensate for that area where it was hurt i knew it's tough exactly i knew it's tough look i'm not i'm not saying

look i think you look at it like okay how serious is the turf toe they seem to think it's very serious now you they probably x-rayed it okay

now they'll probably go get an mri They'll send those images.

They probably got most teams, most teams now stadiums are equipped with imaging.

Oh, yeah.

We've got that.

We got it right there.

Right there.

Guess what?

Right there.

They said he got

Dr.

Anderson.

I think, if I'm not mistaken, he's in Charlotte.

If I'm not mistaken, he's in Charlotte.

Right.

He's in Charlotte.

Or is he?

He might be the team doctor for the Giants.

I think he's in Charlotte.

But anyway.

Listen, worst.

Worst case scenario.

I'm optimistic.

I'm optimistic.

And let's say let's say let's say joe if anything worst case scenario not not worst case best case scenario joe misses three four weeks i say you come back steelers october 15th well you said if he misses three or four weeks he's not having the surgery

nah nah nah nah that great listen worst case scenario is grade three i need surgery i'm out three months

but i don't have no problem with browning coming in as my starter.

I have no problem with that.

Browning, what can you do for us the next five weeks?

can you get us three can you get us a three and two can you get us the four and one make sure we're still in the hunt make sure we're still winning charlotte listen you got all the talent around you you got you got all the pieces you need

that's what that's that's that's why i'm just talking about the turquoise my brother had that turf toe injury if you uh that game that his first playoff game he ended up catching three touchdowns against detroit He had that turf toe.

That's why he was running like he was running, like he had a club foot.

But all he did was shoot the toe up every week, and he went and played.

Now, you know, I don't know if they do that anymore, Ocho.

Back then, that's what we did.

That's what I did.

If I had shoulder injury, I'm shooting it up.

Ankle injury, I'm shooting it up.

I'm playing.

We're going to be all right, man.

We're going to be all right.

Guys, I don't think guys do that.

Because I had a conversation with Emmett.

Emmett looked at me and said, boy, you crazy.

He said, nah, he like, nah, sharp.

I don't do them needles.

I said, bro, you're a several round draft pick.

If I'd have got first-round money, I might have thought long and hard about doing a needle.

But several round draft pick, hey, hey, were you in your first couple of years, you only made $130,000?

Yeah, you a

hold on.

Let me see.

Let me see.

Let me see if Joe takes it.

But y'all,

I'm just trying to point out some guys that have had that turft toe injury.

Jonathan Ogden, he was never the same.

Jack Youngblood, just give me, let me tell you, Jack Lambert had that same injury.

He ended up retiring.

Time, time will tell you, he was never the same.

Charles Wilson had it too.

Wood had it.

He was never the same after that injury.

My brother had, like I said, he shot it up and he played.

But it's going to be very, very interesting to see how that thing, how what plays out.

We'll see.

Man, I'm tripping, man.

You got me texting this man.

It's 1230 at night in Cincinnati.

I forgot I'm way in Vegas, man.

I'm tripping.

Joe sleep oh cho we're gonna be all right we got brown in that quarterback baby can jake brownie keep the can they break jake brownie keep the bingles afloat

i'm gonna tell you i'm gonna tell you how you're gonna keep him afloat right here watch this i'm gonna tell you how i'm gonna tell you you can hear me you can see me

y'all can see me brownie gonna come to the line like this right come and boom safety gonna drop down in the box because chase brown bowler right now chase brown bowling right chain gonna come out alert alert alert check check

they got goddamn chasing T.

Eigens, man-to-man, bump and run.

Hey, Browning gonna hit his hip like this.

That mean go.

Touchdown.

We good.

We good.

We good.

Hey, listen,

when you have them kind of weapons around you at times, it doesn't matter who's at the quarterback position.

But Browning is capable of running the offense.

We saw what he did when he came in last time Burrow was hurt, but he was out there dishing and dealing.

He was out there dishing and dealing.

I'm talking like a, like a, like a Vegas, like a Vegas car dealer.

That's what he's going to do.

I'm telling you, we good.

We good.

Social media was not kind to Brian Thomas Jr.

today.

They said he looked disinterested.

One week after catching one pass on seven targets, Thomas had four catches on a team high, 12 targets, had a big drop on fourth down late in the fourth quarter.

Ocho, I didn't get an opportunity to see this game.

I was kind of going back.

I saw it in the box.

And so, you know, I was kind of like all over the place.

I'm trying to really focus on Dallas and I'm trying to focus on, you know, you know what I'm saying, Ocho?

Not Dallas.

Who was playing in that early window?

Dallas was okay.

So what are you thinking, Ocho?

Talk to me.

Listen,

it's one of those games.

It's one of those games.

I need to touch the ball.

Get me involved in the game.

Brian Tommy Jr.,

extreme success last year as a rookie.

One of those games, he wasn't getting the targets necessary.

He felt like he wasn't being part of the game.

That frustration, that anger,

it gets in the way of when the ball does come your way.

You get upset, Unc.

It's happened to me before too, Unc.

You be wanting the ball, you get angry on the sideline.

Same thing with Kelsey today.

You saw Kelsey say, I'm tired of this shit.

And then when the balls came your way, you ain't ready.

You dropped them.

You're angry.

Your mind ain't clear that's what happened that's what happened to bt today

that's what happened to bt today young bull i know you're gonna see this lock back in and when them opportunities come you make the most of them you're gonna have games like this you're gonna have games like this where the team is saying

number seven ain't beating us

You not you not beating us.

We not letting you get the ball.

So when the opportunity do come, you got to make the most of them, young bull.

You're going to have games like this.

I know it's frustrating.

I know you want to be a part of the offense.

You're going to have games like this.

Get back to the drawing board, lock in next week.

Boy, Trevor gonna get you the ball.

Don't worry about it.

It's gonna happen.

It's gonna happen.

I hate games like that, though, huh?

I hate it.

Oh, Joe, it always, and it happens that very way.

You complain for the ball, and when they get you, the ball, you the ball beat you up.

Beat you right up.

Hey, like you ain't never caught, like you ain't never caught the ball a day in your life.

That boy's so hard, man.

Hey,

we've been there.

We've been there.

That's why I always, I just kept my mouth shut.

Just by look.

Did you see our defense today?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I saw that.

Trey Henderson, like land, like, what, the first half, second half?

Oh, yeah.

Hey,

he put the nail in the coffin, but the defense in general played well today.

They weren't phenomenal.

They weren't great.

They were exactly what I said we needed to be throughout the season.

Just good enough.

But it had to be, oh, Joe, because you guys would, you know, uh, Brownie threw three picks, so they had the defense had to bow their back because he was turning the ball over, left, or he was turning the ball over.

Yeah, we're gonna, we're gonna fix that.

We're gonna fix that.

You know what?

We're gonna fix it.

Listen, he only gets so many reps in practice.

He only gets so many reps in practice.

The reps you do get is to is to prepare you for game situations like this in case burrow gets hurt.

Boom.

You're throwing picks.

Okay, you know what?

I gotta get, I gotta get, I gotta get acclimated to game speed.

I gotta get acclimated to tempo of the game, being back in the offense, getting in the swing of things.

It's different.

One thing is one thing to do it in practice.

It's a different thing to do it in the game.

I got my feet wet.

Okay, boom.

Now, next week, I'm going to dive in.

I'm ready to get wet.

I'm ready to get wet.

Let's go.

We got this.

I guarantee you, Joe is going to be back in four weeks.

If anything, maybe five.

When we play the Jets or the Steelers, he'll be back then.

Brian, they're going to get us to buy four on one.

Four and one or three and two.

So, at worst, no cause for concern for Brian Thomas Jr., not a sophomore slump.

Oh, no, no, he, oh, no, he's good, he good, he good.

That's that boy.

Now, yeah, listen, understand his DNA, understand his makeup, his skill set.

The Jaguars understand what they have in seven.

He good, he good.

Hey, he's an LSU tiger, you know, he good.

Hell, Malik Nabel was mad last week the same way, the same way, Yeah.

Anyway, he was pissed.

Look what he did today.

One bad game.

Hey,

you good.

There was a lot made of Trevor Lawrence's exchange with Liam Cohen.

It was like, it seemed like Cohen would say hit him in the chest.

Right.

That would have looked like.

I don't know.

Like I said,

I really try not to read Lipp Socho because I don't want to be wrong.

But

I did see Trevor Lawrence do this, and I know what that means.

Right, right.

Come on, go ahead with that.

Either shut up or leave me alone, or I ain't paying you no attention.

Either one,

stop it.

Yeah, uh, dang.

Hey, who the who the Bengals play uh next week, huh?

I don't know.

Ask who they play next week

play the Vikes

in Minnesota.

Oh, man,

we're gonna watch them.

We're gonna watch them.

We're gonna watch the Vikings, boy, especially after this day.

With the way our defense is playing, Justin Jefferson.

I know you're gonna see this.

Boy, you ain't catching Nathaniel.

Every plan in Minnesota.

Every plan in Minnesota.

Hey, Chase had himself a day 14 for a buck 65 and a tub on 16 targets.

Come on, now.

Come on, now.

You got to feed the beast.

We talking about the greatest bangling franchise history.

Chase be getting at them.

Yeah.

It don't matter who the quarterback is.

That's why I say we're going to be all right.

T.

Higgins was cutting up, too.

Yeah, for a little while.

Hey, I don't know what it was.

Hey, look, I don't know what they was doing.

So

y'all just go let Chase just catch all the balls.

T was like, if y'all double it, they'll throw me the ball.

Hold on.

How you going to stop it?

Because they put Chase all over the place.

Oh, you want to double Chase where wherever you go?

Well, T gonna.

Okay, I take my chance with T.

Which one won the triple crown?

Which one is this thought of as the best receiver in football?

Uno.

Uno.

But let me.

So I'm going to take him away.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, Nickel ain't too far behind.

T ain't too far behind.

T could do some nice stuff too, man.

Well, we ain't going to do that.

We ain't going to downplay one

receiving two.

Hey, T.

Higgins is phenomenal.

He ain't one.

Yeah.

One has got a chance to be an all-time great.

How do you need T.

Yeah, I'm not that?

I understand what you say.

Hey, I understand what you're saying.

That's what I'm saying.

He's not going to do it.

Take him away and make T.

Higgins.

I'm going to make T.

I'm not saying T can't, but I want to see it for a game or two.

I know what Chase can do.

Oh, yeah.

I know what T can do.

I'm telling you what he could do.

I done seen it with my own eyes.

He's going to top you every time.

So in other words, he's equivalent.

So in other words, what you're telling me is that T.

I didn't say equivalent.

So what are you saying?

I didn't say equivalent.

I didn't say equivalent.

Yes, you did.

No, I did not.

I said, I know what Chase can do.

So you say T.

Higgins can do what Chase can do.

That's what you're saying.

No, they two completely different skill sets.

No, come on now.

Even with his skill set, is it the equivalent in his own skill set?

Is he the equivalent of T.

Higgins?

I mean, of Chase.

No,

that's my point.

I'm going to take a guy that won the triple crown away and forced the,

no matter what you say, Higgins is is the b side just like canelo last night was the a side and bud was the b side higgins is the b side to chase

no

receive a one a and receive a one b

period and you know what we're gonna show you i like what you're saying because you know i'm a little nervous too um you know what let me let me i'm a little nervous i'm gonna tell you why i'm nervous I'm gonna tell you why I'm nervous.

Why are you nervous about what?

Hold on, what you nervous about?

Because we playing the Vikings.

You just said y'all gonna watch.

Wait, no, I didn't think about it.

We're playing against Brian Flores' defense, huh?

And you know what Brian Flores do.

Hey, Brian Flores

has all these

exotic defenses, stunts,

blitzes, people coming from everywhere.

And it can be somewhat overwhelming and confusing for a quarterback that's not used to seeing it.

Brother Browning has to deal with that.

If I'm Zach Taylor, I want to put Brother Browning, and I got to stand up because I'm excited.

If I'm

Zach Taylor, I need to put Brother Browning

in a great situation and get him in rhythm.

You got to run the ball.

Run the ball.

Get Chase Brown going.

Get Chase Brown going.

And once we get Chase going, Chase Brown going, then we can go to the passing game.

Little small stuff.

Unders, slants, quick throws.

Get Browning in rhythm.

Boom.

If we get the

run game going, then we hit him with the play action like this.

Boom.

Chase T.

What are we talking about?

Mitchell, boy, have you seen Mitchell Tinsley?

You saw Mitchell Tinsley one-hand catching the end the other day?

I didn't see it, but I saw the highlight.

Stop playing with the rookie, man.

Man, we gonna be all right.

I'm telling you.

I'm telling you.

Man,

we might put 35 on the Vikings, man.

Okay.

Stop playing, boy.

All right.

Hey.

All right.

So in other words, they're going to beat the Bengals.

T.

Higgins is the A-side along with Chase.

Yeah, he's been that.

I told you that.

I told you that a long time ago.

There are very few teams in the NFL that have two number one receivers.

The Bengals are one of them.

The Eagles might be another team.

I think T.

Higgins is phenomenal, but he's not the A-side.

Give me another team that had two number ones.

Give me another team that got two number one receivers.

Come on, man.

Don't do that.

I guess you can say you can say Miami with Waddle and Tyreek.

Okay.

You can say the Rams with Puka, Nakua, and Devonta.

And you cooking tonight, baby.

You cooking tonight.

You cooking.

You cooking.

Cowboys, you want to say Pickens and

speedies?

I like it.

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Yeah.

Just some bull jive here.

When are we going to talk about your Broncos?

The Colts beat the Broncos 29-28.

Indiana Jones had a sighting.

He was 23 or 34, 3-16, one touchdowns, no interception.

Jonathan Taylor ran wild, 25 carries, above 65 with a long of 68.

And they win on the last second.

Well, he missed the field goal, but it's called leveraging.

And then he got a re-kick, and he kicked it.

The Colts are 2-0 for the first time since 2009.

The Colts are the first team in the Super Bowl era to not punt in either of their first two games in a season.

Daniel Jones completed 16 of 25 passes, 265 yards, and a touchdown against the Broncos Blitz, the fourth most passing yards against five or more pass rushers in a game in the next-gen stat era.

You know what?

If your team didn't win today,

you shouldn't say foot or ball.

Man, I just thought we had.

Matter of fact, when we talk about the Colts and the Broncos, you shouldn't say nothing.

Go ahead.

You need to sit there and silence right now.

I'm going to talk about

Annie Dimes.

Look good.

Jonathan Taylor looked good.

Every receiver, Brother Josh Downs,

Brother Michael Pittman Jr., boy, I salute y'all.

Because regardless of who's at the quarterback position, the people around him and the weapons around him are making him look

phenomenal.

Making the decision to start Danny Dimes

is on the onus of those around him.

The supporting cast is playing well.

The Indianapolis Coast is 2-0.

Oh, Joe.

This was the same supporting cast that was around Richardson.

Jonathan Taylor was there.

The only guy that's different is Tyler Warren, the first round draft pick.

But Pittman was there.

Pierce was there.

Downs was there.

Mitchell was there.

Hey.

Hey, I know.

I know, but we talk about who's at the heart right now.

But you said the only reason Danny Dimes is looking good is what's around him.

I'm saying Richardson had those same pieces around him.

Hold on.

But Danny Dimes is also contributing because he's the one that had to facilitate and deliver the ball to these young bulls.

Okay.

Danny Damdo, he's doing his job too.

I got a question.

They tried to blitz him.

They tried to blitz him a lot.

Didn't he hurt him every time they blitzed him?

Oh, you played made him pay?

Come on now.

Yeah, every

time.

Every time.

Matter of fact, if your team did not win today, you shouldn't say foot or ball.

I can't wait the next week.

Hey, hold on.

Next week?

Who y'all got next week?

Because it might be another loss.

Hey, you worry about Minnesota.

Don't worry about us.

Oh, no, we're going to win that game.

I already told you how it's going to go.

I already told you how it's going to play out.

Who do the Denver Broncos play next week?

Oh, man, they got the Chargers in L.A.

Oh, y'all finna.

That game over.

Matter of fact,

don't say anything start with an F.

Anything start with a B.

Don't even say it.

The rest of the show.

Tyler Warren, that's the tight end from Penn State, right?

Because

Chicago took Loveland first.

And that's why I was like, uh-uh.

I said, look, I ain't say, I'm not saying anything.

I said, I know a little something.

I said, that kid, Warren, that kid from Penn State,

he the better the tight end.

Yeah, he's nice.

He's nice.

Oh, yeah.

He's nice.

He really.

No, no, he really, really.

Matter of fact, while we talk about the Colts right now, hey, chat, chat, if y'all can hear me, while we talk about the

my favorite player in the nfl right now is cam binum

anytime he does something you get in the interception

oh my god boy can't i need i got to get me a cam binum jersey cam binum boy if you see this i salute you please keep up the creativity it's exciting for me it's exciting i love it and push the envelope some more Please push the envelope some more, man.

Salute to you, young bulls.

Salute.

Well, look here.

I mean, the Broncos, the leading tacklers, Pat Sertan had 11 and Hafanga had 10.

You know what that means?

Everybody getting past the second level.

Everybody getting past the second level.

If your goddamn corner

got the most tackles in your safety.

Yep.

You right.

Broncos lost and the Bengals won.

Short-lived.

Sound good.

Seahawks beat the Steelers 31-17 for the first time since 2022.

The Steelers have allowed more than 30 points in the first two games of a season.

A massive middle last by rookie running back Caleb Johnson gifted the Seahawks a touchdown on the kickoff return.

The ball glanced off his arms and rolled into the end zone.

Johnson didn't even attempt to feel it.

But I think now you have to feel it, right?

Yep.

But yeah, no, no, kickoffs are live, though, Ocho.

Yeah, you can't let it go.

I'm not sure why he didn't know the rule, but

yeah, he just let it go, walked to the sideline, not even realizing that's a live ball,

yeah.

It's a lie, it's a live ball.

He won't make that mistake again.

And it happens to the Steelers, but uh, Barry Foster did the same thing.

San Francisco kicked the ball off, he let it, yeah, let it hit the ground, they got it, ran it back.

You can look it up, might have been 92.

Hey,

uh,

man, Seattle players, Sam Darnold.

He got 17 in the fourth, Ocho, against that defense on the road.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Sam Donald was

22 of 33, 295, two touchdowns, two picks.

Aaron Rodgers was 18 of 33, two touchdowns.

No, one touchdowns, two interceptions.

Mason Rudolph came in.

Did Rodgers get hurt?

Because

I just watched the highlights.

Njigba, eight for 103.

Cooper Cuba, seven for 90.

The funny thing about it is the Steelers defense wasn't playing that bad.

Now,

the Steelers defense, the scoreline,

the first three quarters, but it looked good.

Yeah, they only gave up 14.

All of a sudden, in the fourth quarter, the goddamn damn bottom fell out.

Ah, man.

Don Rodgers didn't look like he did.

He didn't look like week one and week two.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

No, you're going to, you're going to, he's going to have his up and he's going to have his up and downs.

He's an old player.

He's definitely going to have his up and down.

Hey,

can I ask you a question?

Guess who's number one in the AFC North?

Y'all temporarily.

I just want.

I told you, I told you.

Horse that runs fast.

Don't run long.

Hey, I told you.

I told you, football,

the AFC North is coming through the 5-1-3.

It's coming through Cincinnati.

I told you that before the season started.

I'm going to tell you it again, going into week three.

The AFC North run through Cincinnati.

And anybody in the chat that got something to say about it, let's bet.

The Steelers averaged five yards per play, Ocho.

They couldn't run the ball, and most of their success through the era came on very short passes.

Ocho, did we make too much of week one for Aaron Rodgers?

I wouldn't say we made too much of too much of week one.

He played good.

Yeah, yeah, he played.

And he didn't play good today.

So we can say, you know what, Aaron Rodgers played unbelievable in week one.

If I'm not mistaken, he know

Josh Allen was offensive, AFC offensive player of the week, but he played really good.

Four touchdowns, clean game, no turnovers.

Okay, we can come back and say Rodgers didn't play good this weekend.

He did.

Last week don't got anything to do with this week.

Yes, he played good week one.

They don't have to be mutually exclusive.

We don't have to say, oh, what?

No, he played really good week one.

He did not play really good week two.

We'll evaluate what he does in week three

when week three is done.

They didn't look good today offensively.

Nah.

They got him three times.

Wilson got him.

Sawyer got him.

No, they had two

sacks.

So

it's

one and a half.

Okay, Murphy the second guy, Lou Williams and Jake Reed.

I was surprised, Dojo,

that the Steelers defense gave up 17 points in the fourth quarter at home.

Yeah.

That bottom fell out in them first three quarters.

Yeah,

they were good.

I mean, you know, you talk about 14 points.

If somebody would have told you the Steelers defense is going to give up 17 in the fourth quarter, I know nobody would have taken that bad.

Nah, absolutely not.

But it happens.

And it happened.

Yeah.

Hey, Kenneth Walker, the third, boy, he's nice, boy.

Oh, yeah.

Oh, he be running now.

13 for a buck 05.

And the Steelers don't let you run the football.

So I was very surprised by that.

that how well the uh the Seattle Seahawks ran the football on them.

Charbonneau, uh he ran the ball i mean what 15 for 10 yards he didn't really but they had 29 rushes ocho for 117 yards and a touchdown so now i can keep you honest

i can keep you honest you just can't pin your ears back because i crease you

but uh

sam darno

he just got

I just don't know, Ocho, he got away with those two INTs, but you got to be careful, man.

You got to be careful turning that ball over, man.

You pay double for those as the season progresses and the games mean more and magnify more.

Every game is important, but you know, you start playing division opponents and you start, you know, you got to be careful turning the ball over like that.

Because

they got no points out of them turnover, though.

The young Aaron Rodgers, man, he's getting you 10 or 14 out of that.

Easy.

I'm giving you, give me, give me, I'm getting 10 or 14 out of that every time.

And it makes a difference in the game.

Oh, Joe, the Cowboys beat the Giants in OT.

Brandon

Aubrey kicked a 64-yard field goal as time expired.

And then he kicked a 46-yard field goal to win the ball game, 40-37.

Cee Lamb had 112 yards on nine catches.

George Pickens, five catches, 68 yards, and a touchdown that put Dallas up by four with 52 seconds in the regulation.

But Russ came back, found

Malik Neighbors over the top.

Yeah.

Oh, my goodness.

I hate when it's.

Hey, that was that was a great game.

That Cowboys Giants game might have been, might have been the best game of the day.

There was no question about it.

It was the best game of the day.

Oh, it was nice.

They were going back and forth.

Oh, yeah.

Giants defense let them down.

You, you, you, yeah.

I mean, listen,

it the giants defense played well most of the day

outside that that one play.

What stretch left?

And he bounced, yeah, you got it wrapped up, and you, and you let, yeah, you let Javante.

I mean, it's third and 14, and you let him pick up.

Yeah, you can't do that.

You got it wrapped up, you got him stopped at the line, and somehow you let him let him out.

Damn, that was a good game, though.

Oh, it was a very good game.

As a Giants fan, you got to be optimistic the way they look today, especially with Russia Dehem.

They didn't look as bad as they did previous week.

And Malik Neighbors

doing what he got to do.

I just, the

running game was decent.

Yeah, every basically four yards of carry.

You can live with that.

The thing is, Ocho, is that the turnover.

And I know you guys

he had to press.

He had the pressure.

That's not what I'm saying.

Oh, Joe.

You can't get thrown down the middle of the field.

Oh, no.

He was trying to throw to the corner, but he got hit.

Man.

I mean, he didn't have an outstanding day.

He was dealing 30 of 41, 450, three touchdowns.

That was

38 of 52, 361, two touchdowns, one interception.

A lot of offense, a lot of, you know, 500 yards from the Giants,

almost 500 yards for

the

Cowboys.

But it just moments it comes down to making plays.

I mean, Malik Neighbors, nine for a buck 67, two tubs.

Wandell Robinson, eight for a buck 42,

one tub.

Darius Slayton, two for 61.

I mean, guys are playing well.

CeeDee Lamb, nine for a buck 12.

Jake Ferguson, nine for 78.

George Pickens, five for 68.

Cavante Turpin, four for 47.

Man,

if they let another defender cross their face,

I mean, offend, oh Joe.

On what route?

What route?

You don't let nobody inside of you on the goal line.

That's the easiest throw.

Yeah.

I mean, dude, I'm like, dude, I was like,

I was like,

I just want to be a fly on the wall because I would love to hear what the deep, what the coordinator and the position coach are teaching these guys.

Because it seemed like just they just let guys just willy-nilly just go cross their face.

I'm not letting you cross my face.

It's just like an offensive player, Ocho.

You never let a defensive player cross your face.

So as a defender, the offensive player not let try to let you cross his face.

As a defender, why would you let the offensive player cross your face?

I don't know.

I don't know, Ocho.

But Give the Cowboys credit because these are games that we've seen the Cowboys fade in.

Do you have the lead, lead, Ocho?

And then, and then guess what?

And in three plays, they're back in the end zone and they got the lead.

But you have to give Aubrey credit.

64 yards, Ocho.

That ball looked like it'd have been good from 74.

Yeah, it is.

He said, obviously, Aubrey having a soccer background as well.

It's one thing to be able to kick.

far but to be able to kick far and be accurate is the issue that's the problem because the further out you go with the goalposts being as narrow as they are is being accurate from that far out and being able to control the trajectory of the ball and where you want it to go and he's really really good at that and i know because he has a soccer background he's that much more confident in doing so well um i'm pretty sure uh all of you guys got soccer backgrounds there are no more straight-on kickers anymore

There used to be, you know, the soccer, you know, the straight-on, the square, the, the, the square-toe guys.

I mean, I I don't think I've seen,

who was that?

The last guy was probably Mark Mosley, but he was gone before.

I don't think I was in the league when I got there.

I think he retired.

I don't think I played against Mosley.

I don't.

But he's the only kicker to win the MVP

1982, if I'm not mistaken.

Kicker win the MVP of the NFL, Ocho.

Yeah.

Dang.

Yeah, but

like I said, Ocho, this is the type of game that the Cowboys would normally lose.

Have a lead and then give it up late in the ballgame.

And then Dak would either fumble or strip sack or something like that.

Dak did a heck of a job of getting out of harm's way, too, because they had him sacked one time and he got up out of that.

But you see, Jerry said after the game that they signed your Davian Clown, after you see Russell Wilson go for 450 yards on you, yeah, you better go get somebody.

You need some pressure.

Yeah, and Aubrey, like I said, and the thing is, Ocho, he just, he kicks so effortless and the ball just jumps off his foot.

I mean, he don't try to kill it.

I mean, it's the same swing, whether he's kicking a PAT or he's kicking the ball 60-plus yards.

It's the same, it's the same, it's the same motion, it's the same rhythm.

And

it was unbelievable.

The Cowboys, who the Cowboys play next?

1-1.

The Giants fall to 0-2.

The Giants welcome in Kansas City

on Sunday night, don't they?

Oh, that's going to be a good one.

Wait, what are they playing at?

Kansas City or New York?

Oh, that's going to be a a good one.

That's going to be a good one.

Kansas City.

Cowboys play the Bears in Chicago or Dallas?

Oh, there ain't much going on there.

OJO.

First drive.

Giants left tackle.

James Hudson.

15-yard penalty.

Five-yard false start.

15-yard penalty.

Five-yard false start

husson was benched the following drive and got into it on the sideline with brian dayball we just saw last week malik neighbors bro i just want you to know what do you want them to do on the first possession of the game you give up 15 yards 20 yards 35 yards 40 yards in penalties yeah So I've just

tried to figure out

what does he want the coaches to do?

I don't think he understands

that that affects the game in the long run.

It affects the game in the long run.

Every play counts.

Every play matters.

Even in the beginning of the game, you don't know what could have happened on that first drive if he didn't kill it.

That's all.

That's all.

I don't think players

understand

every play counts.

Every single one.

Now, there might be one or two that change the game itself

and in that first drive one of those plays that would have changed that game it could have been right there where you keep jumping off sides or you having your you're costing your team

you're costing your team

why are you getting into it with the cold

yes we got we got to bench you they did that in litter league

when you mess up consistently over and over You got to go sit down.

You costing us.

At the end of the day, you either coach it or you're condoning it.

Now, which one is it, Ocho?

Are you coaching this type of behavior or you condoning this type of behavior when either case, you're wrong.

And I wish this young, I wish this, and like I said, Ocho, sometimes you're so close to a situation, you don't see it or you don't understand it.

But I hope he got an opportunity to sit back and look at his actions.

And sometimes it becomes when you become, you can become reflective, when you can reflect, like, damn,

that wasn't the coach's fault.

That's on me.

It's on me.

It's on me.

Guys, I'm I'm sorry.

He should apologize to the team.

The question that I have is that I've seen back-to-back weeks.

I've seen people blowing up at the coach.

That's not a good sign, Ocho.

No, not at all.

Not at all.

Because

I'm going to tell you what the people upstairs that pay that pay Dayball,

is he losing his team?

Does he have control of this team?

Can he coach this team?

Those are the questions that they're asking.

Right.

But

I don't look at, like I said, I hadn't had a whole lot of head coaches, Ocho, but I don't remember, I don't remember about doing that to Dan Reed.

I don't remember anybody doing that to Mike Shanahan.

I don't remember that doing that to Wade Phillips.

I'm just like,

Brian, I don't know, guys.

I don't know.

Like I said, Ocho, you know what?

I guess this is to be expected.

I'm old school.

I've been, I'm so far removed for it, I removed from it.

I guess this is the modern day behavior.

This is how guys, instead of accepting accountability, that you know what, I messed up.

I got the holding call.

I got the false start.

It's somebody else's fault.

I guess that's where we are right now.

So I guess this is why I couldn't coach.

I could.

I could.

Yeah.

Listen,

it's a different era of football.

It's a different era of player in general.

The money is different that they are making.

The funny thing about it, it's okay to make

mistakes are going to happen.

The point of practicing is to practice to get it perfect and do it as many times as you can the right way.

Are mistakes going to happen?

Yes.

But for them to happen back to back, the back to back, and you cost your team affecting your team, now

you got to sit down.

You got to sit down.

So

I'm not even sure how you even argue the fact, but I mean,

I don't know.

I don't know.

That was a left tackle.

Yeah, that's the money position.

So,

yeah,

like I said, I don't know now is that guys, like I said, Ocho, you know, in today's the way it is now.

But I think, guys, look,

in this situation,

I just don't know, you know, and I understand that Brian Dayball is going to catch flak because he's the head coach and he kind of bowled up.

But

where are the leaders?

Where are your offensive leaders?

Where are your leaders of the team?

Brian Burns.

They was right there on the sideline.

Musk Wilson.

Jameis.

Jameis.

You just cost us 100 yards in penalties.

And so what?

You want us to just leave you in there and just let you

just keep going?

They might have put him back in the game, but I can't answer this kind of behavior, Ocha.

I can't.

I can't.

Because the one thing I refuse to do

is to reinforce negative behavior.

If your child acts up and you give them ice cream or cookie, what will they continue to do?

You reinforcing negative behavior.

I'll never reinforce negative behavior.

I refuse to.

And

I don't think he understands how important he is, too.

But you might be the most important offensive player for the offense to even go, to even be able to execute plays.

Boy, you got Russell Wilson's blind side.

are you what are you doing and if you can't take accountability for going off sides and having holding penalties man go sit your ad down somewhere man you costing

uh he got an unnecessary roughness penalty then he got a false start penalty then he got another unnecessary roughness penalty and then he got a five-yard then he got another false start

no he did that and then he got mad hey

Come on, come on, sit over here with me real quick.

Come on, come on, think about this real quick.

Get your mind together.

Get your mind together, and we'll put you back in.

But now you want to boy up at the head coach after you messing up, you costing us, man.

Sit your ass down, man.

But you know what?

You can't sit him down too long because obviously he's your started left tackle.

He's your start of left tackle for a reason.

And your start left tackle is really the money position.

So you're paying him whatever you're paying him.

So you ain't got no choice but to play him.

Sometimes, Ocho,

you have to

discipline a player

because other players are watching.

And you don't want the other players to think that's acceptable.

Yeah.

I've always tried to, like, when I played Ocho, I've always tried to, like, stay within myself.

Yeah, there were times I was seething.

Absolutely.

Yeah.

But

I know guys are watching me.

And I know one day I'm going to move on and I'm not going to be there.

And they're going to be in my position where they're going to be one of the better players.

And I never wanted players to think that was okay.

There's a time and a place for everything.

Yeah, the quarterback messed up.

Yeah, guys

ran wrong routes.

Just pull them to the side.

And we didn't have nearly the cameras that they got now.

Ocho, you can't do nothing.

You can't say, I mean, even you're talking to somebody, I wonder what they're saying, I wonder what they're talking.

Or you might have somebody got the book, got the, got the, the, the, the, the, the mic, the big round bubble, and picking up all the audio.

Because think about it, you, because you heard what Chris Jones said.

That's on the field, Ocho.

And they picked that up.

So I just, I, I, I, I just, I just, I just hate this for the young man.

Hopefully he gets an opportunity to get home.

And, and, and on, on the plane ride home, if it didn't dawn on him, Ocho, when he was on the sideline, hopefully on that long plane ride home to New York, he's sitting there and he's having a conversation with himself: like, you know what?

I need to be better.

I need to handle my emotions better so I don't put my team in harm's way.

Because at the end of the day, when you play a team sport, your behavior is reflective on the team.

It ain't just you.

John McEnroe can blow up and get all he wants to, but guess what, Ocho?

He's playing singles.

A golfer can get mad and break his club.

That's your club.

Hell, that's one less club in your bag.

yeah and i know i know one thing

is to blow up like that understanding that

you're not even you're not even a starter huh he's not even a starter

and i'm surprised somebody ain't say and see what you're doing right now the mistakes you're making right now is why you're not the starting left tackle anyway

which is why you're coming off the bench and the only reason you're in the game is because the starter is injured hurt i'm not sure what's wrong with

Andrew Thomas.

But here's the thing, though.

Now, you see why.

That's what I, if I was their ball, I would have told him.

Now, you see why your ass ain't starting.

You better be careful because you're not starting that type of behavior to get you cut.

Hey, they show they should show you that, though, faster, faster than you could.

All right.

Andrew Thomas is out with Liz Frey.

Do they expect him to expect him back back at some point, right?

Because he had it last year.

He didn't just do it.

Yeah.

So he's trying to come back.

And

that's a tough injury for a tackle because, you know,

everything's on your toes, Ocho.

You got to push off your toes.

You got a kick.

Everything.

So everything.

I hate that.

Like I said, I don't know Brian Dayball from, I don't know Brian Dayball from a can of paint.

I just know what higher ups thinks when they see this type of behavior and they see it reoccurring.

But the hard part is, is the season's already started.

So there's really nobody else to bring in and you have to rely on him no matter what.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

Because

anybody that's available, they available for a reason.

Yeah.

But hey, you see my view?

Hey, you see what's over my shoulder?

You know what that is right there?

yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah jerry announced after the game the cowboys have signed edge rush jadavian clowny ocho how much will that help the defense they did sack russ three times today uh

you got him uh clark kenny clark got him once uh houston got him once

Man, where other sack come from?

Am I blind or something?

I see Kenny Clark got one.

Hudson got Houston got one.

But they said he got three sacks.

What other one?

Who got the other sack?

Am I missing something?

Maybe my eyes are bad.

I just, maybe, maybe.

Hey, but the addition to JBIn.

Jadavian?

Jadavian is going to be good.

He's disruptive.

He has a motor.

He's going to get after the quarterback.

He's okay against the run.

They're going to be all right.

They're going to be all right.

Any help they can get defensively is going to be good.

It's going to be really good because they're going to need it.

They're going to need it.

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