Deebo & Joe - REACTION to Dillon Gabriel's Browns debut, Patriots UPSET Bills, Ravens BLOWN OUT

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I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, lying ass Joe Hayden.

Joe.

What up, Debo?

You done lied to me, Joe.

You done lied to me.

Listen, you told the people, you know, matter of fact, show them what he told the people.

Can you show him what he told the people?

What I tell them,

what I tell him,

play back what they told the people.

Just

y'all play back with

what Joe told the people.

Can you please do that?

Come on, I don't want to see it.

How you ain't got it ready?

Listen,

I know what I said.

I know what I said.

I said we was going to win the game.

That's what I said.

Yeah.

So, Joe,

how was it over there in London?

That was miserable.

Hey, what happened?

Because, you know, it was early in the morning.

It's the grounds, you know, and I don't.

really pay much attention because we're sitting somewhere up here in the north.

But go ahead.

I mean, tell me.

I mean, you can give me, you know, tell me what happened.

I mean, because I heard what I heard.

You know, so no, no.

Let me just give you a little rundown on what went down.

All right.

First half is the tail of two halves.

Dylan Gabriel's first start.

Not,

he was good.

He was solid.

He threw a couple errand throws.

He did not turn over the ball.

Hey, Joe, hey, Joe.

Hey, Joe.

Hey, Joe.

I mean, I thought the defense ball, like, I believe Cleveland had a fumble fumble recovery in the first quarter, right?

We had, we had two.

Two.

And two.

We went out.

I think he had a running back that stroked out for like 32 as soon as they got it back and they ended up scoring a touchdown.

Is that sound?

That sound right?

That sounds exactly right, Deepo.

Okay.

Okay.

And then also we had some, we had my man Jutkins, our running back.

balled out.

He ran for 110 yards.

He was Joe, Joe, Joe, Joe.

But then after y'all did that, I heard Minnesota, Wentz kind of just went down the thing and just, you know, he scored a touchdown.

It was, and then they just tied it up after y'all did that.

Is that that sound about right?

That's what, that's what I'm, that's what the world is saying right now.

I'm hearing a lot of this.

Um, oh, y'all scored another touchdown right after.

Oh, nope.

Looks like a holding penalty.

Yep, look like that got called back.

Called back.

We had two holding penalties on that play.

Oh.

So we ended up getting no points there.

Okay.

So

I'm, we got to be a little more disciplined.

But let's get to the, so we look long story short, Debo.

Fuck off.

Long story short.

We score.

We get the halftime.

10-7.

We're up.

You're hurting.

Our first time.

We're up.

Our first time going into.

Oh, yes.

That bombed the defense.

Go hold that.

I know that for sure.

That's the first time us going into a half with the lead.

We haven't been up in the damn halftime for any game this season.

So we're good.

Oh, so something happened after halftime.

I think Wentz might have came alive again.

Did he?

Did he come alive again?

Drive down.

Justin Jefferson.

Justin Jefferson.

Justin Jefferson and Wentz started hooping on us in the second half.

They were balling.

Jeddah was catching passes all over the place, was finding holes in our defense.

He was actually sometimes, though, man-to-man, he was making great plays on Greg Newsome, on Denzel Ward.

It was man-to-man coverage when he was making the good catches.

So, you know, stop rolling your damn eye.

I got something in my eye.

My bad, brother.

But this is my part, too.

So let's go.

No, the fourth quarter, we had four possessions, brother, in the fourth quarter.

Four possessions, one first down.

How do you keep giving, putting the defense back in the position, back in the position, back in the position?

Like, but they tell you that Cleveland went out there, though, and ran the ball down their throat lightweight and went up again 16-14, though.

Yes.

Yes.

And then they also got another fumble.

That's the other fumble, right?

Yes, Deborah.

So you got the ball again.

What'd you do with it?

What you doing?

Nothing.

Nothing.

Oh.

Nothing.

And that her son was trying to help y'all out, too, by like missing a field goal after that.

Yes.

That's all right.

Okay.

Yes.

I didn't watch it.

I'm just hearing things.

Like,

it's coming to me.

They're giving it to me.

They bring it.

I don't know what it is.

You know how sometimes they hear?

Anyway, go ahead.

All of this is correct, Debo.

Okay.

So, you know, matter of fact, no, you, since you, since you're getting all this hearing, so what else did you hear?

What else did you hear go down?

I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't hear much of anything else.

I heard like the fourth quarter.

Like, maybe y'all should have did something different there.

But again, I mean,

Wentz came alive?

You telling me he drove down there again?

Wait, the last one.

You're telling me he drove down there again and got another touchdown.

That was.

The defense didn't hold.

They vaulted number one.

Brown Deep didn't hold.

What?

How many?

This is what I'm trying to say.

This is what I'm trying to say.

The Browns defense, we needed to hold there.

There's no reason why we give up 80 yards.

We need to stop them, at least get them a field goal so we can go to overtime.

My man, Denzil, we had to cover two, soft two.

He let the receiver, Addison, get an outside release on him, and he hit a whole shot for the touchdown.

We cannot have that.

We have to keep everybody in front of us.

We have to make that play.

But my thing is this.

Obviously, defense, we had to do better.

We cannot let them drive down to score the touchdown.

But we had four possessions in the fourth quarter quarter when we only had one first down.

We got to be able to keep drives alive, keep the defense off the field.

They keep on balling.

They were out there doing what they had to do, but they didn't make the plays at the end of the game for us to win.

So the defense did let us down at that part, but the offense needs to stay on the field a little longer.

And then

in the fourth quarter, you only had one first down.

How are you going to win the game with one first down in the fourth quarter?

The

vaunted

Browns defense?

I understand that.

I'm just saying, just hold up one time.

But listen,

it can't be that bad.

You have a rookie quarterback starting.

I hear he did pretty well.

He did what was necessary.

And here the guy didn't have any turnovers.

He actually had a couple touchdowns.

Like, what, Joe, tell me, tell me what, what happened?

What do you think?

All of his passes, look, I'm not, his stat line is great, but he's a rookie now.

He's a rookie.

He threw the ball.

He was doing the same thing a man that y'all had there as the starter was doing without turning the ball over.

So, I mean, you can't, you can't knock.

That might be the offensive coordinator.

Maybe, I don't know.

Maybe y'all.

Go ahead.

Go ahead.

I'm just talking.

I'm not letting you talk.

Go ahead, Joe.

Sorry.

You're on mute, buddy.

You just like to mime a lot.

You don't want the people hearing what you're saying.

You don't want the people hearing what you're saying because you're muted.

I understand.

All right, all right, all right.

This is what I'm telling you.

Daylon Gabriel, he completed 19 of 33 passes, but 15 of them were to running backs or tight ends.

Not knocking them.

It was a lot of dink and dunks.

Anything that he threw past 10 yards was a lot of air mail, was a lot of stuff just going, not just errant passes.

So I'm not going to say my man did bad he he threw two touchdowns he did not turn over the ball i mean he did the same thing uh maybe a little better than what you know yeah what he did they did against green bay it's just that you know the defense was

you we want our defense to not give up any points we haven't scored over 17 points this entire season so we gotta still be able to get some offense going defense that hey you putting it on them every single time is not like they gotta make plays they were running the ball on minnesota's front line dude like what are we talking about bro

the browns defense gotta hold they did the browns gabriel did pretty well in his first start i would say

brother you he did he did he did solid he's gonna be able to play good enough to win don't you think

he did play good enough he did he did he did he did but at the same time two things could be right he played good enough to win but he damn sure could have did better we could have converted a couple of those third downs to keep the ball out of their hands.

And I think it could be some play calling.

It could be, it definitely could be some play calling.

And at the same time, too, let me just go to what I think the real thing is.

What do you think?

We don't really have, I think ever since, this is going to go back to our organization.

We, ever since we traded for Deshaun Watson.

The draft picks that we gave him up, the six draft picks, the $230 million,

that's not on the field.

Like when you're like, oh, why don't we have another extra wide receiver?

Because we gave up six draft picks and that's why it's not there.

So we're still trying to, the defense is fighting, but at the same time, we don't have 230 million and six picks on the team and that's going to set you back.

So when we look at like the defense is balling and fighting, we need to have

better players.

on the offensive side of the ball.

Like we don't have a receivers right now.

Jerry Judy is doing pretty good, but that's, I don't think that's going to shake.

So I think it's more of an organizational thing.

I think Dylan Gabriel did do good.

He's not, it wasn't his fault that we lost.

He played well enough to win.

The defense, if we want to be elite and you want to be the defense that we think we are, we got to make those stops.

We got to make those plays.

But having them always being dependent on the defense is like, that's just tough.

And I know, I know it's tough, but this, if you're going to be on the Browns, I know that's where they're sitting there.

They know that that's what it's going to take for us to win.

They can't give up nothing.

I mean, y'all stuck to what the Browns do.

It's okay, man.

You got to think about it, dude.

With that one, with that loss right there, Browns' quarterbacks are 0-17 and they first start since like 97.

I mean, it's okay.

Like, the longest streak since then was like 1950, you know,

like something like that.

Um, where they

had the, I don't know, you know, that's just, I think it's the

listen, do you

like

the new

quarterback that they got.

Do you like him better than Joe?

And do you think you may be able to get better from that dude at the three position?

I don't want to start no trouble.

I don't, you know.

Want to start no trouble yet.

This is what I'm going to say.

I'm not, Dylan Gabriel did not play bad enough that like, no, he's going to be able to play a couple more weeks.

We're going to give him some, we're going to give him his time.

They drafted him third round for a reason.

So that's going to be their third.

He's the second string quarterback.

Now he's in the game.

So he didn't play himself out of the starting position and any means necessary.

He didn't turn the ball over, he threw two touchdowns.

You said you kept saying he ain't doing enough.

You double-talking me, Joe.

No, no, no, no, no, no.

You said he could have done more.

You could have done more, but he didn't play himself out of the starting position.

He didn't play himself out of the starting position,

but he could have done better.

That two things could be said at the same time.

You know what I'm saying?

19 for 33, 190 yards, two touchdowns, zero picks.

Not to run away with, you know what I'm saying?

Solid.

I'm not mad at him, but I'm not like this.

Oh, hell yeah, that's what I'm talking about.

No.

You know what I'm saying?

He could do, he can do better.

Go back into the tape room.

Some of those damn passes over 10 yards that you threw.

All them damn incompletions, hit one of them.

Hit one of them seven routes.

Hit one of them phase.

There was no phase.

There was no post.

Only time was when we had that last, when we had 22 damn seconds, he threw a deep dig, fucking 20-yard bump, right, right in the money.

Where the fuck was that earlier in the game?

And then the next one he had on the over when he couldn't get out of bounds to try to kick the field goal.

That was the next farthest pass he damn through.

I'm like, where was this the whole damn game?

You got 25 seconds and you finally threw two passes over 10 yards.

Completions look good.

Where the fuck was that?

That's what I'm talking about.

So he didn't play himself out of a job.

He did solid.

But I'm like, Joe, please own them deep passes and we could be, you know, I'm saying making something shake.

I understand, Joe.

But for someone that is

have two teams, you seem pretty upset.

I haven't heard you be this upset about a loss.

You know, the Steelers lost one.

I didn't hear this kind of

out of you.

You know what I'm saying?

You know why, Debo?

You know why?

Do you know?

Did you mute yourself again?

Did you mute yourself again?

Why do I keep moving myself?

Because I'm getting so upset.

Don't touch the mic, baby.

Don't touch the mic.

Okay.

All right.

Go, Debo, listen.

It's organizational, which is what pisses me off.

When I went over to Pittsburgh, I don't care.

I just like the way that they ran their business.

I just like the way that they did it.

I felt like everybody was in the joint.

You knew what it was.

You had, you have Coach Tomlinson the coach.

You've had three different coaches in the last 50 years.

The Browns, it's just so much turnaround, just so much turnover.

And the players, they can't get, you don't know know when you keep having a new leader every single year a new voice a new this a new that there's no real

there's no real leadership and for for me i feel bad for the fans because i'm out here in london with 290 fans staying at this same hotel we're having a good old time and they just always they're they're so supportive of the team when they're

and that's what i feel bad for them You know what I'm saying?

With the Steelers, I already know.

They're going to figure it out.

Y'all don't go under 800.

Y'all going to figure some shit out.

Something's going gonna happen like so if you lose a game we could talk about it and i don't really get as mad because coach t is there they're gonna figure some out the defense is solid we got the players we got people in organizationally they're structured they're strong they're gonna be good you know what it's gonna be

this right here smile off my face joe i just why the do we keep finding a way to lose that's the part that pisses me off it's like we were up and then everybody and then we just sitting there looking like this how the how are we gonna this one up how are we gonna mess this one up?

That's what's so important.

That's why I get passionate.

Yeah.

Like, hey, I know we up, but you know, y'all know we're going down.

I know we up, but how are we going to get down?

How are we going to get down?

God, that's not, that's not good.

That's not a good film, dude.

Out my ear.

Oh, man.

So that's why I get so passionate, man, because I feel for the fan base.

I feel that

they deserve better.

than what's going on sometimes out on the field.

And I don't think that it's the, it's, we could have so many, like, like

all right.

We would have kept Baker Mayfield signing for 100 million.

Baker Mayfield doing some things, baby.

Man, Baker Mayfield's balling.

Speaking of it,

Baker Mayfield just threw for 379 yards.

Do you know what I'm saying?

That's the type of offense I like to see.

That's that's good.

He threw my man Dylan through for 190 and then uh and Baker threw for 374.

So

you got it, you got a big disparity in experience there, too.

This is what I'm trying to tell you too.

This is what I'm trying to tell tell you too.

Why didn't we just keep Baker for the hundred?

We had another hundred.

We gave Deshaun 230.

We had another 130 million with six fucking draft picks that we could have used and they would have been on the team right now.

Baker Mayfield beat Pittsburgh, beat us in the playoffs.

Did that not happen?

And then we got rid of him and then we got Deshaun for 230 that we haven't seen.

We haven't been able to see him play.

And then we can't for see all the injuries, you know what I'm saying?

So, I mean, you can't.

Man, listen.

listen, I understand.

Man, I hear you, brother.

Listen, man, it's okay.

Listen, I don't think

the stillers, the stillers wouldn't have, the Steelers wouldn't have traded for Deshaun

and gave him 230 all guaranteed.

This is true.

This is true.

And that's what I'm saying.

There's nothing you can't, you can control what you can control.

All you're going to do is be in the locker room, have your teammates in there, and you walk in, you're going to do what you can do.

But you don't control who's your teammates and who brings them in and who signed and who stays.

That's not out of you.

That's out of your control.

All you control is who the fuck is in there with you and what y'all gonna do.

So I just think that they got to do a better job with that top.

Let's bring in some good guys and we'll be solid.

Yeah, it's okay, man.

Listen, the Ravens got the shit stomped out them too, man.

I mean, you go,

I mean, it was close in the first quarter.

I think it was, you know, it was three to three to seven.

Yeah.

And from there, you know, Houston just took the game over.

Stroud ended up, what, 23 of 27 for 244, four tugs.

They rushed for 167.

Dude, the first half, they went five or six on third downs, dude.

The Ravens defense, dude.

Can't put out a match with a fire hose, dude.

They missing tackles still, dude.

They can't bust a grape in a fruit fight.

Like, it's looking bad.

It was so bad.

The announcer

for CBS, Ian Eagle, dude, he sounded like he had pity on them.

I had no pity for them, man.

It ain't no fun when the rabbit got the gun, man.

And the rabbit got the gun right now on the Ravens, man.

The rabbit got the gun right now on the Ravens.

He's not considering any, you know, any changes to any of the staff, you know, none of that.

Why you...

Do you think something should be done?

He should change something?

Like, what's going on?

What do you think?

Where's the ravens answers

man it it looked bad debo it looked like they didn't have any answer they weren't trying to make any tackles they weren't miscommunications like cj stroud it looked like he was throwing routes on air everything just completions boom boom walking it down the field on him nick chubb was toting it like vintage nick chubb like i just don't it when the dude like you said he felt bad for him because he's like this i mean it just doesn't look like the ravens like these dudes like like this is not the defense that i'm used to seeing because he was walking through there like every time like with cj stroud the drive after drive after drive it was touchdown after touchdown after touchdown and they quarterback for the ravens too like i mean

he that he looks out there lost he he looks like he doesn't know left from right so that's not helping out the situation either so you got an offense that don't look like they know what's going on because lamar's not in there and then their running game wasn't

getting too active So here's my thinking on this.

All right.

Lamar is the answer

and the problem for them

because he is such a great player.

Now, when you have a player like that, that is that great

and

you build the whole offense around his talent.

The player that backs him up has to have some sort of skill level or skills to operate in the same manner in which he does.

And when you don't have that and your whole offense is built around a dynamic player like Lamar Jackson being able to do the things he does and your backup can do none, this is what you run into offensively with not being able to get anything on the board.

No, exactly.

I think when you have a player at his ability level, like you said, it just can disguise a lot of other things.

And then when you have that quarterback that's coming in and he's a stand-up, complete opposite pocket passer than Lamar Jackson.

what is he he can't do that he can't be able to extend any plays he can't be able to make anything happen so he's got to be in that thing either handing the ball off to derrick henry or standing back making a five-step drop and hitting it and throwing it on time and that's not the ravens offense so i completely understand what you're saying they're gonna have to either try to cater something to him but i don't i'm not switching up my offense for buddy because

you just got to go get him.

I mean, you got to go get a mobile back.

Right.

You have to get someone that is Lamar-like and can do the things that's necessary to do that because he's a quarterback that you're not worried about him running the ball.

So when Derrick Henry is back there and they hand the ball off, we're not worried about what the quarterback is going to do if he's going to pull it or anything else.

So now, what do we do?

We key in on Henry.

Head first, go in as fast as you can.

We'll get back up to this slow quarterback.

That's not issue for us.

Do you want him to pull it?

Please pull it.

We're going to put you out in the game.

Yeah, like, dude, they gave up 44 points, which is the most they have ever given up in a home game in John Hardball's 18 years coaching.

Period, dude.

The Ravens are on pace to give up more and like shatter the Panther.

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There's 24 record for most points allowed at 534.

They're at 35.4 per game right now, bro.

Like,

it, I don't understand it, dude.

And I understand him not saying that.

Do you think I'm not changing?

No, no, I don't, I don't think it's coaching, dude.

It's the players, bro.

It's the players.

I understand not changing your D coordinator.

It's too late in the season to do that anyway.

But they're missing tackles.

They're getting pushed around.

They're getting deep.

They're getting...

They're getting dominated by the other man across the ball.

That's

nothing to coach about that.

Like you got to win your one-on-ones.

And they're not doing that for the majority of the game in anything that they do.

I mean, Houston is Houston, but

I expected him to do, you know, I expected him to do good, but I didn't expect him to do this well.

Hey, shout out to CJ Stroud.

Oh, yeah.

He looked a little athletic.

He was hauling ass up the sideline.

So, I mean, I think he might have been playing possible well you got to realize something i think he was playing this against the 30 second defense so unless you the 30 second offense it should look different you know what i'm saying yeah no he looked good though he looked good 44 is 44 on anybody is 44 but they going for a record of worst defense in the league so we're gonna see what he do next week but i'm happy for cj strout he looked athletic

He did.

Well, you know, that might, like I said, it could have been him joking, not joking, whatever whatever it may be.

I don't know too many people.

They said he go as far back as watching like

pee wee type stuff games.

Like, I'm like high school and all that.

I'm like,

I don't even know if I got high school type.

I do have high school type.

That's on high school tape.

It's on DVD.

Now it was on the VHS.

It's on DVD now.

I don't even know.

Do they still got DVD player?

I don't even know, dude.

I don't know.

I don't know.

You better put it in the PlayStation.

Do the PlayStation still use it?

I don't know.

I ain't got no games.

I'm so forward for them.

Yeah, I know.

They do.

They do.

They do.

I'm so fortunate.

I'm going to download them, but yeah,

I still use the disc.

Dude, Eagles lost.

Eagles lost to the Broncos, bro.

They dominated that game for a good three quarters, dude.

And then they went and gave it up in the fourth.

What do you think people are doing to try and...

This is my thought.

Yeah, tell me what you think about it, Deep.

I think

they're trying to change up

and not run as much

to maybe get receivers balls to keep

the noise down maybe or whatever it is that they may be.

Because you ran the ball with Saquon all last year, and

that got y'all Super Bowl.

Like that was what y'all did.

And now

it almost like you're, you're abandoning it.

I don't, I just don't, I don't understand it.

I know they came out in the, you know, like second half of that game, you know, Denver, and they changed up, you know, what they were giving,

what they were giving hurts and what they were giving the offense.

And, you know, they showed things that looked like they were going to do something that they didn't.

They'd show man and then drop out in the zone and all that other stuff.

But, you know, at some point,

the

offense coordinator, you got to adjust to that.

Hey, they're doing this.

Like, you know, we need to adjust to their adjustment.

And

that's, that's my thought.

That's my thought on it.

You know.

What was the, what do you know?

What did Saquon run for?

Dude, I think he only had

at one point in time, dude, I think it was like in the third quarter, dude, and only had like maybe six carries or something like that.

God, yeah, that ain't gonna work.

You got you can't you can't detour from what got you there, especially when you got Saquon Barkley.

Yeah, like

that doesn't make that doesn't make any sense.

I think they might, maybe you know, how like with AJ Brown trying to get his trying to get his voice out, but I think Jalen Hurts, some of them passes that he's throwing to AJ Brown, he just be overthrowing my man, throwing the drums out of bounds.

We looking crazy.

So I know he AJ Brown and Devontae Smith seem to uh call out Jalen Hurts in consecutive weeks about about the passing game.

Bro, I mean,

it is what it is.

I mean, sometimes I've been looking at some of those plays where AJ Brown is open, like beating the dude on the deep ball, and he's just overthrowing him by five yards.

I'm like, where are you throwing the ball to?

Give him a chance.

So, like, you know, the receiver, if you throw the ball out of bounds or throw the ball where nobody, I can't even like slow down, jump up and make a contested catch, throw me something where I have opportunity.

You know what I'm saying?

And these dudes are feeling like, dude, this dude, all Kumo D, is out here not getting me the rock and throwing the ball crazily.

So I'm not going to just keep sitting here and chilling.

And then we start messing around and lose the game because now it was all good.

You undefeated.

But then when you start losing and you're looking bad, then it's like, okay, now do y'all hear what I'm saying?

Are y'all not looking at these passes that are not in anywhere of

my vicinity?

You know what I'm saying?

So, I mean, I think you, and it's good to be able to hold a man accountable.

Like, look, if he goes in there and look at that tape, Jalen Hurts, was that pass bad?

Yes, it was.

All right, then.

Well, let me see if you make a better throw.

You know what I'm saying?

So I think it's just being able to stand on it and be able to be like responsible for your position.

And when you do bad, be able to say, yes, that's me.

I got to make sure this is better.

Yeah.

I lied, bro.

It was six carries for the whole game, 30 yards.

God.

30 yards, bro.

Like six carries, 30.

It's only six carries,

right?

So you're telling me that those six carries, 30 yards, you're telling me five yards of pop ain't good enough?

Six carries, you cannot even warm yet.

Six carries, he's not warm.

I don't, I gotta, yeah, we gotta, this is the offensive coordinator, baby.

Hey, I gotta look into that one.

That's wild.

You gotta, hey, Philly, go over there, look into your offensive coordinator.

That's where y'all go find all y'all answers.

And, you know, I mean, players play on the field, so I understand you to overthrow it and all the other stuff.

But maybe, you know,

if he didn't have to do that as much, you know, and they were given wider open passes because of the run game was working, he wouldn't overthrow it in fear of, you know, getting a pick, rather have an incompletion than a pick, you know?

Yeah.

I can see that.

But Saquon with six carries is crazy.

They got to change that.

That's, that just doesn't make any sense.

Oh, yeah.

I got to let him touch the ball at least at least at least 20 times.

That's how I feel.

I didn't pay you all this money to just have you come over.

Five, six carries?

Dude, I could carry six right now at 47.

I could carry six.

I like it.

For six, yes, six carries for sure.

That was wild.

Like,

I don't understand.

No, man.

So the Bangles, listen, listen, this is how I'm trying to tell you why you shouldn't be upset because the Bengals lost too.

So the Browns lost, the Bengals lost, and the Ravens lost.

And the Ravens.

Which means we won.

You see that?

Yep.

Yep.

Yep.

Right.

You know what, Debo?

You know, and we do stuff like that.

I like to say we a lot of time.

So I'm saying we, but you sign on real distraught and frustrated.

I'm hearing more F-bombs than I done heard ever.

You know, so I just, I don't feel like you giving us,

because because I'm taking you out of the weed right now, the same

loyalty that you're giving the clowns.

I mean, the Browns.

That's disrespectful.

Don't call me.

I'm

embraces.

My braces make me mess up my word.

I'm sorry.

That wasn't.

No, but I bow.

But yeah,

the Stillers, they're going to...

You want to go to the Stillers?

You want to talk about the Lions and Bangers?

We want to talk about the Lions and Bangers, man.

You know, you know,

I mean, the Lions are the lions it was just a little too much

it was a little too much brownie brownie out there

against the bangles

who brownie was out there throwing punt balls he was throwing the ball to the he was throwing the ball to other team he picked up and did way better in the fourth in the fourth quarter he did good but at the beginning of that game come on you know you in that pre-vent you know you know you know sat back you know all that it's you know that's the

man that's the only reason why and you know what i was surprised though the defense did do better

yes they did defense did

they did they definitely made a step in the right direction because that offense is a great offense to go against man with the running game with golf with some amora like that's a squad that's a team that's a full team that you're going against so them being able to have all them damn turnovers and

this guy jumping out there putting fires out got they had to it could have been way

third quarter he basically hits well might as well say two quarters because he got the third pick soon as the second play of the uh second half

yes i mean

yeah he is not you know what

you know what

listen russ can't do no no worse they need to go ahead and see if the giants give up russ oh for sure they will something got to happen something Something got to give.

I'm not going to lie.

I hope they keep Brown that's in there for the sake of the Stillers and for the sake of the Browns.

Keep Browning in there and keep having him throw the ball to the other team.

And it's going to be perfect for us.

That's what, hey, I, I, but I kind of, you know, I don't want to go in there and have

a competition.

You know what I'm saying?

I want to see a good game.

I don't want to go in there and see the Stiller score 50, you know, TJ get 10 sacks and you know 18 turnovers and all you know i don't want to see that you know that's i do that's just boring you know and then that's you know that's like it's like beating a dead horse you know what i'm saying yeah yeah you want to beat him at the top of the game you want to take you want to beat him at the top i ain't gonna say all that they can keep burrow up out of there i ain't gonna go half out

all right uh-uh you see

that tells you how good burrow is look what they got right now

look what they're doing right now look what he's done hey burro, you might want to get up out of there, baby, after your toe get right.

You might want to see.

I think they're gonna waste you over there.

I don't know.

They ain't gonna let him go nowhere.

I don't know.

Did they sign him yet?

I don't know.

I gotta look at the contract.

That man gets that.

That man joke.

There's no stipulation in there.

How much is the guarantee?

Yeah, it could be getting close to up, but you know, they're gonna keep that man.

He's probably making what, like 50 a year.

I think he's right, probably around 50.

Like, yeah, I don't,

yeah.

Listen, the only thing that may worry me

is that they did play well.

The defense played well.

Now,

Lions is number six offense.

They did that well against him.

I wouldn't say that well.

They just didn't do as trash as they usually do.

Okay.

When it came time to actually, like, stop.

They did stop him sometimes, but it seemed like when the Lions was like, yo, we got to get something.

They're getting too close.

They went on head, drove down the field, and got a touchdown or whatever it may be that they needed to.

So, and

I just don't want anybody else in the North improving too much on any side of the ball, you know,

because

I'm selfish.

No, I respect that.

But Gibbs and the Lions is a really, really good team, man.

Oh, yeah.

Them running backs, bro,

he said a record for scoring, two running backs scoring each in the game, like 14.

They scored, both of them scored in the game 14 times.

And and i think that's a record for two running backs on the same team scoring in the same game that many times so they just they still they balling and i love the way they they support each other you know what i'm saying thunder and lightning so i think they they got a they got a really good thing going on they side for sure oh no question dude like that that first week you know that that that was that they needed to get bumped on the head to go ahead and wake up

you know like they they looking like the old the old lions you know, that

had been, we have been seeing the last couple years.

Yo, for sure.

It's a long sea.

It's a long season, too.

So, you know, that first game, like you said, they got spanked up.

We didn't know what was happening, but you can't just start being like, oh, no, the lions are all messed up.

We don't know what's going on.

No, no, no, no, no.

Let them get into it.

Let them start getting their footing right.

Like, it's a long season.

And now we're going into week six.

So now you're starting to really see kind of teams starting to come into what they're going to be.

Yeah.

And it don't hurt, like you said, to go against against the bungals.

I mean, the bangles, I don't know, my braces be praising up against my lip like that.

You so disrespectful.

No, my lip, dude.

I'm just what's disrespectful.

You want to know what's disrespectful?

What?

The bangles have been outscored the last three games 113 to 37.

Okay,

like that's disrespectful.

The man done through three picks that game.

On top of that, he done threw eight interceptions in the last four.

Like, what are you talking about?

Yeah.

Yeah, they got to get rid of that.

That's disrespectful.

That is disrespectful.

That's bad ball.

That's bad ball, Debo.

Like,

if I'm Joe Burrow, y'all want me to come out here and do this.

Y'all have to re-up.

Y'all have to double my pay because I got to get injury.

I got to get injury paid because I know I'm going to get hit from every side.

Like, I'm going to have to mess around to get a bacchiat of me, you know.

Tackle ain't.

Tackle ain't ain't protecting my backside or something, you know.

I don't.

I don't know, man.

But they need to get some line because if they're going to keep Burrow back there, every time he keeps getting hit, he keeps getting hurt.

I mean, you got to protect him.

And then they still got Chase and they signed Higgins.

So that offensive side, I think it's going to, they're going to be explosive.

Defense look, like you said, they look like they're playing a little bit better.

But I think the main thing that they would need to do is just get stouty up that line.

Because the receivers, man, Jamar Chase, Higgins, ballers, like they have, they have the skill skill players to do it.

I just think that you got to keep Joe Burrow upright.

Yeah, you got to, man.

You got to.

If you don't do that, you don't even got a chance, man.

But the Patriots went on head out there and stunned them boys over there in Buffalo 23 to 20.

Yes, yes.

Defense.

Defense.

Turnovers, dude.

Turnovers.

Turnovers.

That's the big thing.

Yes, bro.

Turning the ball of the Bills, man.

That's how the Bills killed themselves with the turnovers, bro.

Yeah, so I guess the Bills had an NFL record, 26 game streak without losing the turnover battle broken

when they turned the ball over, was it four times?

Four times this, or was it three, three or four, one or the other, dude?

It wasn't uh, it wasn't, hey, listen, they got a quarterback over there, dude.

They actually got a quarterback over there.

Oh, May.

Yeah, yeah, bro.

Oh,

yes.

Yeah.

May, May doing his thing, dude.

Real talk.

Buffalo had two funnels in that first quarter, a bunch of penalties.

Like, they had, I believe they had twice as many penalties at halftime than they had points.

You know what I'm saying?

New England's defense, dude, they played well.

They did good, even though they had a few injuries, too.

They had a few injuries.

They had four takeaways, bro.

May,

May look good, dude.

Like, he was passing the rock.

He was using his feet to get things going, putting his head down, going ahead and doing doing what he had to do to try and get what he needed to.

He ended up 22 at 30 for 273.

And you know, that boy Diggs went loose on him.

Man.

Loose on him, boy.

10 for 146.

On his old team, bro.

Came back with like, I got something for y'all last.

Y'all thought I wasn't good enough no more.

Y'all ain't want me here?

No, they ain't

really want him.

You know, they said

he had some growing up, some growing up to do.

I guess

he was a problem.

I guess that was the report from there and uh what was it minnesota and then when he got to houston it was it was totally different i think everybody has points in times where they

need to mature or grow up prime example like we uh we got rid of um

receiver now playing for

dallas yeah we got rid of pickings right

So

everybody was like, why would they do that?

His play was not the issue.

They were unsure of his maturity.

Like, you may have to hit a spot here or there or have something happen before you're able to, you know, mature into, you know, the person that you may become, you know, later on in your career.

Just as Diggs is saying, like, yo, I'm a lot more mature.

They're saying he's a leader.

He, he's, he's, he's vocal.

He, he's pop.

Like, that was something that he had to, you know, he had to mature into.

Now, if say he had stayed in Buffalo and

continued the same thing and they did what was ever necessary to keep him, he's not going to mature because you're saying your behavior that you're doing is going to achieve the goal that you want.

And that's how players become, okay, it was a little bit of an issue to it's a lot of an issue to now you can't control the issue and you have to get rid of them because you fought so long to try and keep them there that they were determined that, you know what, the behavior I'm doing is what's going to get me what i want instead of being like yo it's not going to work we're going to move you well it's not going to work we're going to move you okay so i guess the problem is not the teams i was on the problem is me and it takes some self-awareness to realize that that's what it is and that's what happens and maybe right now pickings is over there doesn't realize like you know what i needed to do something to to to you know grow up you ain't hearing nothing about anything that's you know going on on the field off the field whatever it may be so you know it could be it could be one of those situations no no no for sure for sure I mean I can definitely I can definitely see what you're saying because you know people you don't when you first get into you never know like the the business of the league you know I'm saying you just think you out there playing football and all that stuff but getting cut getting released getting traded to another team would change your perspective real fast and understand like okay like I might have to I might I might have went about some things differently and this game could be taken away from me so I got to kind of mature in a little bit and maybe i can handle things a little bit better so i definitely definitely understand where you're coming from there because dudes come in 21 years old you're a kid at the beginning and then you start seeing you play a little bit you see some other dudes you talking to them about situations and then you can you learning experience you can't just get learning experience without living through it you know what i'm saying like you know you gotta

i understand what you're saying if i would have listened to everything i was told when i was young and actually took that advice and used it instead of having to go through the process of, you know what, let me be hard-headed and find out myself.

I'd be a whole lot further in life.

I think all, all of us

in life.

You know what I'm saying?

So Diggs over there now doing this thing, grinding it out.

Like

he's the, from what they're saying, he's the, he's the perfect, you know, he's the perfect player.

He's, he's, he's a perfect teammate, you know, and he's the guy that is vocal, a leader over there.

And

I'm, I'm liking it.

I'm liking it over there.

I'm liking it.

I mean, we whooped them, you know, but I mean, I'm just saying, like, we are the stillers, though.

So that just, that don't, you know, that don't matter.

But

Buffalo did help them a lot with, you know, with penalties.

With penalties, with turnovers.

And you look at it, I think Buffalo had more yards than them, had more first downs than them.

I think they even had more plays than them.

But the killers, they also had more penalties and more turnovers.

And, you know, they said they're not, well, I guess it was a thing that came out where they were saying, you know, they're not worried or or stressed about i wouldn't either because you basically you self-mute you self-mutilated yourself y'all killed y'all several decent turnovers understandable i could see that but

still

somebody be out there and get those turnovers and force them to turnover

and and recover those turnovers and and put those points up and that was you know that was drake in them you know

yes and at the end of the day too when they was driving it down they got the their defense got that stop and they kicked the field goal to tie the game

when drake got that ball back and was able to march the drink all the way down with him and digs and then getting escaping from the sack like being able to make he is making a great throws full stride half stride

long down the field on the money on the money in no position other than what his player could catch it dude that is scary.

He went and won the game.

Their defense put them in positions to be able to get into that position.

And then he went and won that game, man.

So he was just able to, like you said, making great down-the-field throws when you need it most.

Because

games have ebbs and flows.

It's going to be first quarter, second quarter, turnover here, whatever, whatever.

What's happening in the fourth?

Can we win the game?

Is it still close?

Because everything else is all that.

We could figure it out.

Like, there's fluff.

But now, when it's time to the nitty-gritty, coach, what are we doing?

are we going to score or are we not you know what I'm saying like and being able to walk out of that stadium in the fourth so it just means so much more because he can go into that now and like that's that's that's good guys you know I'm saying like we can get we can play the your global campaign just launched but wait the logo's cropped the colors are off and did legal clear that image when teams create without guardrails mistakes slip through but not with adobe express the quick and easy app to create on-brand content brand kits and lock templates make following design guidelines a no-brainer for HR sales and marketing teams.

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Feels tight, defense balled out, and then we got to get it into May's hands.

Him and Diggs brought it down for us to get the win.

So I think it just brings some confidence in the whole team.

Like all this other shit that happened, whatever, we can deal with it.

But when it got down to the nitty-gritty and we needed to score or get down to the the field goal range, run out the clock, whatever it is may be, May did it for us, and we won that game.

So that that's a that's a positive for them for sure,

yeah.

Buddy, the Cowboys, they uh they beat the Jets 37-22.

It was chance,

chance of MVP.

It's week five.

Dak Prescott, he said he heard it.

His words was, it's week five.

I don't care.

What do you uh

what do you take of that?

How you like that response?

Yeah, I mean, I do.

I love it.

I do.

I don't even like the cowboy.

You know what?

I feel like at the end of the day, that you they're gonna talk about the cowboys all the time.

Um, no matter what,

no matter what.

I ain't gonna lie at all.

He's putting up numbers, he's doing all that right now.

I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna lie, yeah, no, no, no, for sure,

and I'm not mad at it at all, but Dak knows what at the end of the day, he's trying to go.

They need to do playoff things, all this regular season things is all that.

It's going to be all good, all dandy.

But what are you going to do in the playoffs?

They haven't been able to do anything in the playoffs.

And he knows that people are going to hold him to that standard.

All this regular season is sweet.

It looks good.

All right.

But when we get to that wild card,

can we get a playoff win?

Can we go to the division?

Can we make like a push, a real push?

Because the talent is always there.

They always have numbers.

The names on the back of those jerseys are unbelievable.

Do you know what I'm saying?

So the players is not that.

It's like this.

He understands.

It's bigger than just this, the regular season, all that.

And then if he, for him to, he's not, he's already going to get people talking crap about him anytime.

So he's like, yeah, I heard the chance.

I'm like, I think I'm playing a great.

I think I'm doing great right now.

No, I'd be like, no, I don't care.

I'm focused on us continuing to get better.

And just the PC answer,

the quarterback answer that you need to give.

Right.

Right.

That's the, I mean, that, that, that.

I think that is the real answer.

I think that's really how he feels.

Because

my thing is this.

Would I take an MVP or would I take a Super Bowl win?

Give me the Super Bowl win.

You could keep the MVP.

The goal is every year.

Only one team succeeds

and accomplishes that goal.

And that's the team that walks away with that Lombardi.

Your main goal is to win the Super Bowl.

Yes, it's other accolades that come along with it.

But if your focus is those accolades, you're going to miss the bigger picture.

You see what I'm saying?

All those people.

Hey, man, Jerry out here flipping off fans.

Yeah, man.

Jerry out here flipping off fans?

Yes.

Hold on.

Hold up.

Hold up.

Don't players get fine for that?

I would think so.

But Jerry, he up in the ownership looking down people.

Brian Branch of the Lions,

he got fined $20,000 last year for flipping off a fan.

What you going to find Jerry?

Hey, Roger.

What are you going to find Jerry, huh?

For flipping off the fans.

This is supposed to be representation of the shield, all that other good stuff.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, it's not, it's not a good look for an actual owner to be flipping off fans.

Like, are you going to do something about that?

Or are you just going to sit back?

I don't know.

We'll see.

I think

he'll sit back.

You may.

I think he's going to sit back.

Oh, yeah.

I don't know.

He might have to.

If we make enough noise, he might have to do something.

Who knows?

He might have to.

It really don't matter, man.

Roger.

Did you see he was in the suite?

He was in the suite.

Roger Dale's the puppet for the owners.

That's what I'm saying.

You think he going to find his, you think he's going to find his own?

Well, you got to find him a little something, you know, so

a little slap on the wrist.

They can fire him.

They hire him.

They can fire him.

Like, they are the ones that says, okay, you're doing well for us.

We're going to keep you for another whatever.

Yeah, we'll give you the use of a jet.

We'll give you this, all this, lifetime, this, whoop, all that.

Why?

Because he's making them a ton of money.

And every now and then, one of the owners get out of line and you know what?

Hey, slap him on the wrist, give him $500,000 fine.

Don't say this, don't do that, and keep it moving.

Although, you know, your team is worth $5,6 billion.

Back to them, boys.

Yep, you're exactly right.

I mean, so I think he go do something if we, if, if, if we do, if he, if it gets loud enough, but you know,

if you don't find him,

I want all NFL players to remember this,

okay?

That he did not find Jerry for getting caught giving fans fingers.

So, y'all better not get fined for that either.

You understand?

NFLPA,

executive director, where you at?

Debo, you think they might try to make something different of him because he was in the crowd, like he, because he was in the suite?

Who cares?

You flipping off fans at the game, televised right there on TV.

You ain't doing, you ain't doing it on your own.

Oh, no, I ain't doing that.

You ain't not just, you know,

elevanting and all that.

You right there.

you, representing your team, the NFL, the shield.

Remember,

no, for sure.

I'm with you.

You can't do anything that is

going to tarnish the shield.

Negatively affects that shield.

And that don't negatively affect the shield.

A 95-year-old man giving somebody a finger and they matured up by the end, that's crazy.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're going to have to give him a slap on the wrist.

I don't think they will.

I don't think they will, Debo.

Listen,

that ain't, you know.

Like I said, hey, we'll see.

We'll see, man.

They don't pay Roger Goodell, what is it, $60, $70 million a year for nothing.

He's doing something great for him.

And I ain't going to lie to you.

I used to hate Roger.

I used to hate Roger.

But listen, Roger, I still dislike your ass.

You still a bum to me.

But I understand where you're coming from now.

Because if I was you getting paid over the last whatever years it's been 10, 15 years, anywhere from

40 something to $70 million a year, I think you'd have made close to $600 million since you've been,

yeah, since you've been NFL commissioner.

Listen, I would let everybody call me every name under the sun.

I would do exactly what it is that I am told to do.

And I would sit there and

keep it moving.

I understand.

If I was in that position,

I would probably do that.

Because he works for them.

Yes, that's your boss.

Everybody don't realize that.

That the boss is actually the 32 owners.

Roger Goodell's boss is the 32 owners.

Yeah.

So that's why, I mean, at one point, I remember it was like, when I found out, it's 32 teams, and they said it was making like around, well, at this point, it was probably like 60 million.

So I'm like, okay, so it's $2 million

per team.

You know what I'm saying?

Paying them.

That's what I'm like, oh, so each team just paying them $2 million.

And that 30-that man, that's 64 million.

You know what I'm saying?

Don't forget lifetime jet use, no.

Lifetime jet, lifetime jet, private jet.

Ain't nobody gotta put stuff in the public eye.

I listen.

Yeah,

I'm not listening to you.

I'm not listening to you players.

Hey, I ain't listening to a word you're saying.

Shut up.

I am deaf and mute.

Nah, you ain't lying.

Hey, dude, they go is making $25 billion in revenue by 27.

That's it.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey.

Yes, sir.

Yes, sir.

What up?

Yep.

I hate Roger Castell.

Yep.

I hate you, too.

I love you too.

I love you.

I hate you.

Listen.

No question.

Listen, man.

Speaking of issues, the Titans beat the Cardinals in a wild one, dude.

Kylie Murray said that's how you lose a game one-on-one.

Hey, man,

you get an interception,

fumble,

other team recovers from that.

Hey, y'all, y'all thinking of new ways.

I don't know how many times.

And then.

Y'all thinking of new ways.

What about they damn running back, Debo?

Boy, drop the ball.

Why do people keep doing that?

Hey, I don't understand.

Listen.

You don't look sweet.

It don't.

You don't look cool.

Listen, what you need to do is next time, don't drop that ball.

I'm going to tell my running backs and tell everybody going to the goal.

When you score a touchdown, you can't drop the ball until you run out the back of the end zone.

If you don't run out the back of the end zone, that ball better come back to the sideline.

Hit your head on the goalposts.

come on man

god that's just dumb and people are getting keep doing you keep doing it it's just it makes me so upset because i know like they're like oh yeah celebrating that's not making you look sweet you don't look cool you don't look like yeah okay no no you look like an idiot So just bring the ball all the way across the line, please.

No,

go through the back of the end zone before you let that ball go.

Don't let it go.

Bring it home with you.

Take it all away.

Take it to the crib.

You know, that's your touchdown ball.

Some people like to give them away and throw them around.

Like this: listen, don't let the ball go till you threw the back of the end zone.

But hold up.

Did you see the video?

Oh, my goodness.

Of the head coach.

Can we play that video?

Is there any way we can do that?

Yay, nay, say,

dude, let's put that video up.

Now,

I understand

it's a point in time where, you know, you got to motivate your player.

You know, hey, bro, come on.

You got to get it together, man.

Hey, that's all right.

We got you.

You know,

you tap them.

You know what I'm saying?

You get them.

You know, you get them going.

Yeah.

And

this, this, this damn show wasn't one of those situations.

Now,

you give them, you could give them one, you know, and that's,

I'm motivating you, though.

You can see the expression of motivation.

Motivation.

Not like I'm mad at you.

Like I'm trying to like, like I'm trying to

low-key.

Right.

Like, I'm trying.

And that's the head coach now.

You know what I'm saying?

That's Jonathan Gannett.

So, dude, done dropped the ball, right?

So as he drops the ball, it ends up being a touchback, blah, blah, blah.

He gets to the sideline.

You got a lineman there sitting there consoling my guy, right?

You know, trying to tell him, da-da-da-da.

Coach runs up to him.

Now, I only saw the first, only saw the first one where he hit him walking away.

So the one that I hope that is going to be shown is going to be the one where he actually comes up.

You can tell he's dog fuck cussing him, right?

He pops him in his chest.

And then on the way out, dude's head is down just like he just, you know, he just

upset.

He's sad.

He's sad.

He knows.

He knows.

On the way out, he gives him like a right hook, bruh, as he goes through.

Please play it.

Please play it.

damn

oh it's broadcast

we can't play it it's broadcast wow

what they need to go do go look at the clip they need to go see the clip go see the clip all right

it's the actual head coach dude is sitting he's standing there sorry and this alignment is got his arm around him trying to console him he comes up and bombs him in his chest after you bomb him in his chest he hooks him as he he walks off from the from the side.

Now listen.

And Debo, don't even talk about how he was head to head with him, like all on his like zero personal space.

Now, yes.

To hell with the personal space.

You could get in my face.

You could do all that.

Okay.

You can't put your motherfucking hands on me.

Bitch,

you're a head coach.

First off,

Gannon.

whatever your name is.

He should have bombed him with a cannon on that right hand he got and just slapped the piss out of him

how are you going to now as a man go home and be like uh yeah son i let this man hit me twice i'm losing my job joe it's gonna take it's gonna take half the team to get me up off of him dude i i had issues because i didn't allow coach to talk to me when I was a rookie any kind of way my linebacker coach any kind of way he wanted to.

I'm like, dude, you go give me the same respect you give these vets.

You don't have to give me any leniency or all that, but you're not going to talk to me crazy like I'm a kid.

That's not going to happen.

That's what got me cut

my rookie year.

Like, I'm not, yo, you're not about to talk to me like I'm a child and you put your hands on me.

Come on, man.

How am I going to go home to my son?

I'm going to go home to my son.

I'm going to go home to my son, bro.

He go be like, hey,

you ain't do nothing to that coach that put his hands on you.

So I know you ain't going to do nothing to me.

No.

until he tell you he'd be like dad man be quiet you ain't saying the coach when he slapped up on you yeah no we can't do that and then something else that threw me off is like the players are standing right there nobody's like yo coach calm down

like you don't hit nobody bro unless you want to get hit back unless you're ready to fight what are we talking about

yeah like you said james it's a respect thing and it's understanding it's a grown-ass man that at the same time that you're coming over there all mad, do you not think that he feels like a complete

head down like this?

The line got fight on him.

He's sad, got his mans consoling him.

Yes.

And you hit, he bombed on him in his chest.

And then he hit him with a hook on the way out.

Like, where is it?

It's no way.

On God's green earth,

I could let that go, bro.

Yeah.

Like,

like, you're the head coach.

How are you going to address it?

You got to address this.

Like, you ain't got, you just dropped to the bottom person in your household.

You ain't do nothing to that coach.

That's what everybody goes.

You ain't do nothing to that coach.

The locker room.

Like, what are we talking about?

Yeah.

That's not, that's not cool.

That's not cool.

What you gonna do, Joe?

What would be your response, Joe?

I know I'm going to jail.

get my bail money

i

i i think off the

it's definitely gonna be

what the

who like when he first walk up i'm definitely addressing the situation like i'm gonna i'm i think i'm i don't know i'm i'm not gonna steal off on my coach i'm just letting you know me off the rip i'm not gonna steal off on him if he came

on you twice i'm probably i'm gonna i'm no no he would i wouldn't have got hit twice after the first bomb I'm gonna hum, push the nigga, like, what the fuck is wrong with you?

Like, who the, we're gonna talk.

Like, I'm gonna get my space back.

Like, that's when, once he hit me in my belly, I'm pushing him off, and then it's gonna be what it's gonna be.

Because now I'm hopefully like, I just don't, I just don't like people being all in my damn space.

Like, and I've had a couple situations in Cleveland with just coaches not rocking.

I understand what you're saying now.

So you, you reacting to the first one.

All right, I got you.

Maybe I wanted to.

I'm reacting to the first.

Yeah, because the the first one.

You might not ended up first.

It's going to be that reaction.

Boom, boom.

It's going to be that reaction.

It's going to be, it's going to be like, boom, boom, what the hole, what, what, what, what you got going?

You know what I'm saying?

Then we, now you lost your mind.

Like, what's up?

Now I'm looking at him.

He's looking at me.

I'm like, you just hit me.

Now we, what's up?

Like, what the fuck?

You could talk

mad?

Or like, you just hit it.

Yeah, now you get something in between you.

You know, somebody's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here?

Hold up.

Yes.

When you sitting there just taking it.

And listen, I cannot, I'm not going to be able to sit there.

If I'm the dude that's holding him, and you come and just bomb on him, yo, slow your roll right there, coach.

Like, is are y'all that afraid of this coach?

I don't know.

This is this is not the first time he done did something like this.

It can't be.

He done.

It's no way as a first-time head coach, you bomb off on a player that dropped the ball going into the end zone on the sideline, and you're already up.

They were up at that point, and you bomb on him?

No.

No.

Yeah.

It's just like you said, Debo, that physical stuff.

Why are you hitting another grown ass man?

Thank you.

And it's not like a hype.

Like, come on, baby, we get.

Hey, man, come on.

That's all right.

We're going to get it back.

Boom.

You know, one of those.

It ain't that.

No, you frustrated.

You trying to box.

You mad.

You ain't frustrated.

You mad.

You big.

That's what happens.

You get mad.

People get mad.

And the first thing you want to do is

you want to get your hands moving.

You know what I'm saying?

Like,

think about it.

You're sitting there and your kids do something and you'd be like, whoa,

let me calm down.

Let me calm down.

Like, that's like

the way I grew my patience, dude, is my kids.

My kids have made me a far more patient person than I ever would have been in my whole entire life.

They saved my life

110%.

But

me

today,

reformed, far better than I was,

still,

like you said, would have had to react to that.

Now,

old me, the one that ain't had no kids, ain't had no responsibilities, I'd have gone on here and got locked up.

Yep.

It'd have took the team, you know, it took four, five to pull me off of him because I'd have been trying to put cleats all through his lip, face, and everything else.

Yep.

Like,

I'm supposed to go home.

I found James and Henry looking at me like, hey,

dad, don't say, shut the fuck up, dad.

I'll be in a slap you in your mouth.

Leave the catch to that coach.

He just started cussing you out.

No, I'm sitting there like this.

No, I'm sitting there like this.

Nah, man.

I can't have that, bro.

I can't have that.

Hey, man.

No, don't.

Look here.

Listen, bro.

I want to let you know, brother, that

I'm not upset that y'all lost.

I'm actually happy.

I know you're a little upset, but

you still over there in

the UK, London, you know?

Yes, man.

We got my flight back.

I get out of here tomorrow to come back.

Okay, you out of here tomorrow.

Oh, yeah.

So

we got to let him know.

We got to let.

We got to let them know.

What's going to happen tomorrow, Joe?

Man, we're going to be off tomorrow because I'm gonna be traveling, but we will be back on Friday for the Debo and Joe show.

Back live, 11 o'clock, with your Thursday night football recap, with your Monday night football recap, with your what's about to happen this weekend recap.

Me and Debo.

Look here, baby.

We will be back here on Friday.

We want you to please like and subscribe, okay?

We want to thank you guys for coming.

Hey, who do we

play

next week, Joe?

Who do we play next week, Joe?

Who do we play?

Who do we play?

Who is the we?

You know who he is.

Safe travel.

Oh, man.

You you know what?

I'ma be.

I'm neutral.

What?

I'm neutral.

You neutral?

What jersey?

They play each other.

What jersey?

I'm gonna come in with a jersey.

It's gonna be a 2-3 jersey.

Split.

Half Browns, half Stillers.

Like my tattoo.

What tattoo?

Bro,

you better not have no Browns and Stiller tattoo on you.

Yep.

Right there.

Bro, you see that?

Bruh.

Browns and Stillers.

That ain't real.

Bruh.

Ain't real

ain't real it's 50 50.

it's look browns and still is on there

hey bro

look here

who

you

looking to win

in this matchup that's what i want to know whoever deserves to win whoever plays a better more no turn who do you want to win joe

whoever plays better who do you want to win, Joe?

It ain't about who plays.

Who do you want to win?

Whoever plays better.

Come on, Humps.

I'm so glad I'm in London Devote.

Your eyes are saying so many words.

Like you, like you want to, like you want to put hands on me, like that coach did.

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