Deebo & Joe - Eagles-Giants REACTION: Jaxson Dart STUNS Jalen Hurts + Steelers-Browns preview

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welcome back to debo and joe I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.

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Joe, hey, before we get into,

how was your trip back?

How was your trip back was great, man.

Thank you, Debo.

The only thing that was crazy was I need to get that global entry because I was in the customs line for like 45 minutes when I got back.

So I got to get the global entry up.

That was a rookie move on my part.

But besides that, flight was good, direct, straight to IAD, smooth, back, good.

Thank you.

No question.

No question no question you got to get global range you don't do that you got to give up a lot but it ain't like they can't see everything anyway oh my god they know me it's straight through it's like two minutes i had i had it when i did uh mexico city bro

i saw the global entry people going through and my phone was dying so i couldn't even download the app so i just i just took it i took it i chalked it up for l won't happen again Yeah, you got to go through a whole little process, though.

It ain't just applying.

That's it.

They got to call you.

You got to do an interview.

You got to do all that.

I'm assuming there's no process to it, though.

But,

you know, the Giants went on ahead and did their thing right there, you know, against Philly.

Crazy.

Dude, I did not see that coming, especially, you know, as soon as the game started, like Philly, the first two plays, Saquon go 18 to 13.

Yes.

And I'm like, okay, it's about to be something.

They get a hot field goal, but the Giants come back and, dude.

On two consecutive third downs, they get like 30 on the one third down.

And then the next one, Dart scrambles for a 20-yard touchdown, dude.

Bro, Dart popped off the game.

Like when Eagles came down, like you said, they stalled out.

You know what I'm saying?

So they couldn't get the touchdown.

Saquon only got the two.

He got the two carries popping off looking sweet.

But when Stark got the ball and he was just able to, his first pass to the, what's my man, the 6'4, the 6'4 off the practice squad, he had nameless gray faces receivers that he was out there throwing it to.

And then Eagles having a great call on defense they had a spy for him debo he was able to juke the spy make run get the touchdown i'm like okay he's looking he did exactly what he had to do so it game popped off super exciting yeah then philly came back out and they had uh what was it like a negative three yard run then they got sacked so they were up out of there three and out and here come your boy dart again yes dude like unbelievable i think it was one for almost 30 another one 35 They're going to another touchdown.

He was scrambling, bro.

He was being able to use his legs, like just creating plays, just dodging, making sure, being smooth, bro.

It was looking like he was in control of the game.

He wasn't making any bad plays.

He was doing things on time.

And he just, and I ain't going to lie to you, one thing I liked about Dorne Nothing a lot.

Like, when I look at a quarterback, too, some quarterbacks look goofy in their equipment.

You know what I'm saying?

He looks sweet.

My man got the spat on.

He got the vibe.

He said the swag on point.

His swag is on point.

Like, he looks like, like i'm like this i'm looking like i was looking i'm like this young i want that quarterback to be a quarterback of my team because he just looks cool he looks comfortable he looks in the flow he's having fun he's enjoying it and he's swagging when he was doing it so i would just had to throw that out there i know they don't mean nothing but you know how you got dudes looking just goofy some dudes just look goofy in his equipment aka ravens quarterback back up he comes out there i'm like this he looks a little bit nervous dart doesn't look nervous he looks like he's in control he looks like he's chilling he looks like he done this before yeah yeah for sure but philly pop back out there less than what four minutes a little close to four minutes 75 yards they get a touchdown and i'm like yo this just the first quarter we about to have one of those games where it's gonna be back and forth back and forth back

when he scored he threw the deep joint to aj brown one-handed fire you know what i'm saying so getting him trying to get him involved so definitely it looked like it was gonna be good that's it was 10 to 13 right there when they went down

get back right back out there second quarter they get another seven another eight minutes off the clock 75 yards so yes yes yes tables turning you know giants done held up long as they could you know debo that's when they did all them damn tush pushes yes and you see he went off sides on the one and he went up and he jumped on the second one yeah yeah you see he went off sides on the one they used to review these tush pushes man and did you hear the referee though they say he went off side and referee was like this in real time you know you probably couldn't really tell i'm like oh my gosh listen stop it so we're going real time now so we ain't calling penalties penalties.

Y'all ain't doing the same slow-mo when the defense get a hair jump and they in the neutral zone.

Y'all doing the same thing.

Come on.

Give me that same courtesy.

They want to score points and the Giants ended up going right back and answered.

Dart and Scatterboo went on ahead and said, you know what?

We're going to go ahead and get this 20 to 17 a half time.

He was toting that pill.

He was laying.

He was coming down

with the crown of his helmet, Debo.

He runs with the crown of his helmet down.

Listen, man, I don't have a problem with that because you got to protect yourself.

You got to drop your head.

He ain't going to just drop his head and do like this to get popped.

He's trying to get down.

Like, I understand that.

So, I, I, you know, I'm, I'm

when you're coming in to make a tackle or something, yeah, you know, yeah, okay, you're in there because you're not even being able to rap.

So, I understand that.

But at halftime, you got you got Saquon with basically he had three carries that was 49 yards, and then another five carries that was what, maybe

eight yards.

So he ended up halftime with eight carries, 56 yards.

And then he ended the game, dude, with only four more carries of 58.

Like, I don't know what they're thinking.

Anyway, man, that's

at the half.

We'll get to that later.

And then, dude, the third quarter starts.

Yes, yes, yes.

Here go them two dudes again.

Them two dudes

darting skeetball.

They activate.

Activate.

Came out that joint looking sweet.

Then they had to, I think the first one dart threw a great pass.

They made a good play on third and two, so knocked it down.

So they had to punt.

Then this is when the Eagles get the ball in the second half, where I'm like, all right, now do y'all got to stop?

Let's make something happen.

Jalen Hurts, it was a blown coverage on that third and eight with Devontae Smith running scot free down the field.

That's a play you have to make.

You have to make that.

That's seven.

That's literally, you know what I'm saying?

Easy seven you could get all day.

That's just a little dump in the dump in the bucket.

So that they missed that.

That's one play where I think that that one really turned momentum.

I think there was a lot of plays in the game that could have changed, you know, I'm saying the outcome.

Well, of course, the closer you get to the end, the more, you know, it could have changed momentum, you know, plays that you miss or make.

But he missed that one, and they had to punt the ball.

And like you said again, Scatterboo started giving them what they wanted.

Go ahead.

Yeah, I said it was out of control, man.

Like, these, these two rookies was doing their thing on.

They went crazy.

And then that's the one when they scored, and they started, like I said, the swag, the over.

Did you see them dancing together, having a good time, coming with the vibes?

Like,

everybody was the energy was so real, bro.

So I was rocking with just seeing them dudes.

I'm like, yo, the Giants look sweet.

They look energetic.

You know what I'm saying?

Everybody's making plays.

So that was made at 27 to 17.

Yep.

All right.

And then

Eagles get the ball.

Well, I ain't going to lie.

That challenge was big because he ended up getting sacked.

You know,

the Giants challenged that catch.

They reversed that catch.

He ended up getting sacked and they had to punt the ball.

Okay.

Right.

Yeah.

Correct.

But like, you know, the killer was, you know, when they got to that fourth quarter and he

shorted that ball, threw it a little behind him.

dude was able to pick that off.

Like that, that really, you know, it changed momentum like crazy.

Where, you know, you thought they might have had a chance, and then the Giants, you know, they get to the point.

We got to go back.

We got to go back.

We got to go back to when we, when my man, when, uh, when I thought Jackson Dart was going to be hurt and

in and out, he came and Russell came in and threw the ground ball.

And Debo got the screen.

Hey, I know the concussion.

That was just a, you know, that was a glitch.

You know, you get glitches in the get.

That was a just quick little glitch.

He had to go ahead and do what he did.

Bro.

I have to just say how much I laughed at how Debo was spazzing on the control.

Like the, you know, how you had the.

Hey, everybody went into the tent.

Everybody took

it.

I didn't know he out here throwing this motherfucker in the dirt.

Boy, it's third and nine.

You see the heater.

He done threw it in the dirt.

Oh,

okay, my bad.

I just had to, I just had to point out that

I was going to let it slide, but you know what I'm saying?

No, Debo, that had me led.

I'm like, I'm like, they are in dire need for that quarterback.

Dart, if you don't get the hell out of that tent, everybody went in the tent.

Yes, everybody, everybody had to go in the tent.

What's going on?

These doctors don't know what the hell they do.

Hold on, man.

No, is he?

Man, no, he's, I know, he's good.

Debo was like, he's good.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Get him on out here.

You, did you just see what we saw?

Get him on out.

He goes, get him on out here.

He's going to be all right.

And like I said, he threw that pick.

And then

they get

finally what we thought was a stop.

they get a huge Philly get a huge PI that keeps the drive alive and they're able to score again and it's 34 to 17 dude yes sir yes sir 34 17 and then this is what I'm saying then and then we got my man

where is Saquon they have him out the game they keep giving the ball dropping it off to Dylan and I'm not no no disrespect to AJ Dillon

Cough the Joan up you know what I'm saying another turnover which is going to literally finish the game and then Scatterbrew and Singleton was able to.

This is the demoralizing part of this, though.

Police, them boys went six-minute offense on them, yes, okay, and run, you know, they're going to run the ball,

run, run, and you cannot stop it over and over and over.

And they run the clock out with almost seven minutes left on the clock to end the game, bro.

Yes, bro.

It's demoralizing right there.

That's what reminded me of that Marshawn Lynch.

And you keep hitting him in the face over over over

over and over

you know they was turning shoulders they was turning shoulders to some of them hits he was lowering his shoulders to at the uh when they was getting towards that third to fourth quarter man man for sure he lifted scatterball he even went bro scatterboo got the 15 yard penalty because he finally got lifted up out of bounds but he took him off his feet and he ran back over like yeah it's still first down and they threw a flag on him i'm like oh man you got to grow up on that he still ran for the 50 he already right he already know what you did to him go ahead don't don't give him a little cheap 15.

he he took the 15 and still went and got another first down though i was like oh he don't care they still ran out the clock after that like that wasn't a like oh no you're gonna give him the ball back give him a chance on you you messed it up he like this no okay i'll get that 15 back and they know i'm toting it him and singletary was running that thing crazy to close the game i know they felt ridiculous yeah yeah philly philly got some they got some problems over there dude the offense they only converted one-third down, dude.

Bro, one-third down, 75 yards rushing, dude.

Here's the thing: like, you got 75 yards rushing.

Last year, y'all was second in rushing.

Y'all did 179 yards of rushing on average.

Like, what are we talking about?

Like, you were almost 42% on third down.

I think that was 10th in the lead.

And now,

as of today,

you're only getting 95 95

as an average for your rush per game.

Like, you're 26, dude.

You were built on rushing the ball.

Last year, you only had 187 yards passing a game.

This year, you're trying to do it more.

You still only got 179 pass in the game.

Last year, you were 28.

This year, you, you, I mean, last year, you were 29.

This year, you're 28.

Like, you ain't did nothing better.

And your third down efficiency done dropped to 34%.

Like,

situationally, you're terrible.

Five out of the last six games, Saquon ain't even had over 60 yards rushing.

You got Kurt's getting sacked left and right, rather, he's missing receivers that's open, not seeing them, or whatever's going on.

You're you're not running the ball like you were built on like running the rock.

That's what y'all did.

Yes, you have just totally abandoned it.

Like, you gotta, you, you, you gotta get back to it.

I don't, I just don't understand it.

I mean, you're exactly right.

There's no reason Saquon Barkley, how you started a game with the two carries for those explosive plays, and you don't continue to give him the ball.

Like if he gets less than 15 touches, it's a crime.

You have Saquon Barkley on your team, on your squad.

How are you going to get established the run?

You have to continue to give him the ball.

You got to keep some like, there's no flow of the game when you're not getting him the ball, getting getting him going and you don't have to keep giving it to him throw him a screen listen man you have to give him the ball running i don't care about touches and all you have to give him the ball running why because he has the ability to go and make one dude miss and go ahead and strike the band up for 40 50 60 yards whatever that may be so you to not consistently get him to ball to get those opportunities don't make no sense to me when you've already had success doing it last year that's what you did now you done let all these people running around here saying you're not being able to do this he can't do that he can't pass this he can't catch this i'm not catching that change what made y'all successful i don't understand that i wouldn't care if i'm the head dude i don't give a damn what they say if we winning ain't nothing about to get changed no

i don't care if we 28th 29th and passing 22nd and rushing we What are we talking about here?

I don't understand it, dude.

I don't get it either, Debo.

It's something.

Something's up because he's not even in the game sometimes, though, Debo.

So that's what I'm asking.

The threat is not even there.

He's not even in the game.

So there has to be something where I'm like, what is going on?

It has to be something in the, like, why are the coaches not having Saquon in the game?

No disrespect to AJ Dillon, but we saw what Saquon was able to do and leading that team to what they were able to do last year.

It's not too much different than him getting less than 15 touches is when y'all keep continuing to lose what there's there's something that i'm not seeing because if you have him on your team he's healthy he looks like he wants to get the ball give him the rock you know what i'm saying like it doesn't seem too hard like me and you saying the same thing listen i don't paid you all that money i'm gonna use you up i'm not i'm not managing anything man we're about to get back to where we were and and try and repeat this thing the giants they you know they two rookies came out there and and and did what they needed to do and they're improving like you know from from one game to the next the offensive line actually played well especially in the running game in the fourth quarter you know i'm about to run the ball and you can't stop that defense played great situational football

third down they only gave one percent on third down y'all gave a one third down one i mean i don't even know how many times that can be said in the game period

like that's elite that yes what are we talking they're not known as like that super elite defense but they they have a good defensive line but one third down

those dns man those like both both all of them like number zero five they getting after the quarterback and at the end same time the secondary no miscommunications no people just running scott free down the secondary but at the same time i'm gonna say when your offense is converting at a clip of 11 they went 11 for 16.

I'm going to say 11 for 15 because Russell came in there and threw it in the dirt.

So my man Jackson Dart, he was 11 for 15 for third downs.

And that was just making sure he ain't turned it over.

No, just make, man, come on.

He just made sure he didn't throw a pick.

So I respect it.

You know what I'm saying?

It was what it was.

I hope somebody, I didn't, they didn't show the replay.

I hope somebody tipped it, but that joint hit the ground like quick.

So that was, I'm not blaming it on Dart.

They was 11 for 15.

And I saw that.

That's the most since 2014 converting

11 third downs in the Giants history.

They haven't done that in 11 years.

So him just going out there, being able to.

continue being able to make those passes on third down third and eights overs deep overs on the dime, and like dropping passes, not just touchballs.

Like with no defense, a lot of those, they were saying the Dori Jackson wasn't in position.

He was in position a lot of plays, and they were just making tough catches, great, great passes in a spot where only the receiver can get it, and you can't.

So that was dart being dart.

And 195 yards isn't nothing to like go home about, but the way that he was able to create on third, using his legs, third, what he had, like 13 rushes for 58 yards and a touchdown, 17 for 25, 195, and a touchdown.

That's great football.

And the way that he did it, being able to be so efficient on third down, moving the chains, keeping drives alive, that's winning football.

And he looked like a baller.

Like if Jackson Dark can just do that, eliminate, he didn't have no turnovers.

He was sacked probably two times, but like him being able to scramble, use his legs, and then look, keeping his eyes downfield.

Those receivers aren't the best receivers.

Like nobody's going to be able to, oh, nobody, none of those receivers are all pros.

None of the receivers have been pro bowlers.

He had dudes off the street.

Right.

And they were making them look great, catch the ball, run the right route.

The ball, I'm gonna put it there.

You just catch it.

You know what I'm saying?

That makes that gives everybody confidence.

Like, you do your job, I'm gonna do mine.

I'm gonna put the spot ball where it needs to be.

You make the catch, and we're gonna keep this thing going.

So I'm very, very excited for the way that Jackson Dart was playing and the way he looked so calm.

It looked like this is what I do.

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I'm normal.

I've been doing this my whole life and the moment's not too big.

I'm just, I'm out here chilling like I'm playing football and I love it.

Oh, yeah, for sure.

For sure.

He did, he did well.

No question.

Hopefully they can, you know, keep improving.

New York might have something to root for.

But let's get over here to

the Browns Stillers.

So

Aaron Rodgers, he shared why Pittsburgh has not been able to unlock the deep, you know, the deep balls downfield.

He said teams are playing cover two.

When you're playing cover two, there's not going to be a ton of big shots down the field.

Until we get them in one high, it's going to be precise passing and short of the sticks.

If you're playing cover two, there's not going to be a lot of shots open down the boundary.

We've just got to be efficient.

I absolutely understand what he's saying.

I like it.

The reason I'm good with it is because, like, he's a veteran quarterback.

He understands what needs to be done,

when it needs to be done.

And we don't have, it's not like we have a really good offensive line.

We don't, you know, we got an average offensive line to say the best in both, you know, passing and run blocking.

So a lot of these teams are playing cover two because they're not worried about the run.

So you have to do things that, you know, we do like the quick game passing alternative run game instead of, you know, trying to hand the ball off.

But if we get to where we're able to now make you get into situations where you got to put that other guy in the box, you can't play cover two.

The offensive line starts blocking well.

We're able to run the ball well that will open up the deep passes that you'll be able to get because now you'll get that single high you got to get the other guy in the box because now we're running the ball effectively so i have no problem with the you know with with the comments what's what's your uh what's your thoughts on i'm the same way that you are debo you know how it is i play db and the best way to keep the deep ball from you is playing too high If you play cover two, your corners, you make sure you get hands-on one and that dude is getting an inside release so your safety can be able to use you keep you keeping the lid on everything so that makes your corners a little more active it keeps you light in the run game but him saying all of this is just football one-on-one and knowing the way you're going to do that is being able to get them positive runs when they're playing cover two tote the ball the line blocks a little more you start getting them six to tote that's two carries that's the first down they're going to start playing some more cover some more cover one they're going to start dropping that guy down in the box trying to prevent you being able to get six yards of carry seven yards of carry you start toting the ball then that's going to start keeping that that safety is they're going to start shooting down a little bit quicker.

And that's going to have those one-on-ones outside being able to, when those safety drop, you see one dude in the middle of the field and he's pressed on DK.

Now that's when that's an opportunity for a deep ball.

Not when you got a corner back there and you got two safeties sitting back there just waiting.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, no, when you get that one-on-one look, like, all right, bet.

Now you're going to safety get, you can look off the safety and now you know it's him versus him.

If DK's beat him, he's going to be a touchdown.

And that's like, that's the, that's the looks that you want.

So when you don't have defense, cover two, we're going to keep a lid on it.

There's, they're not going deep.

There's defense you can call.

We're like, no, it's just going to be able to prevent the deep passes.

So he's speaking football one-on-one.

And the way to change that is, you know, start running the ball, start toting it, start being able to get those runs where now they got to add another person to the box.

Yeah, definitely.

Tomlin shared

what separates Dylan Gabriel from other NFL rookies.

He said he's older, more experienced than most rookies.

I think timely, I think timely

possessing,

I think timely processing,

timely superpower.

I think his experience and that super and that superpower has to be on display.

And I think that was one of the central reasons why the Browns went to him.

My um

I mean, I totally understand what he's saying here.

Again, you know, you got Dylan Gabriel.

He's what, would he play over 60 games, started at

Oregon.

yep last you know his last year there he completed almost 73 of his passes bro 30 tugs only six interceptions so yeah he's going to process process things faster he's going to get it in and out of his hands he done seen it he has a better understanding of it you know and on top of that something else dude he's a dual threat like he can he can take off on you it ain't like you sitting back there with joe flacco you know what i'm saying oh no for sure hey he go be in the pocket i could go ahead and i could lose container and everything else and still catch back up to him you know like he gonna get around you

like

what uh

what do you see in uh

the uh enemy's quarterback because i see you got your your steelers jersey on that must be the enemy today i don't know i told you debo you got i could do both you know what i'm saying range debo i got range so back to dylan gabriel i'm understanding completely what coach tomlin is saying i think because like like from what i've seen with dylan he protects the football being able to he says timely processing is his superpower.

So making quick decisions, being able to, you know what I'm saying, get back.

Once you hit that back step, being able to let the ball go and being able to make good decisions.

He doesn't throw interceptions.

And if nothing's there, he'd be able to use his legs.

So I understand what Coach T is saying.

He doesn't turn the ball over and he's quick to make decisions.

He played a lot of football when he was in college too.

So from the first game that I saw him play when he did in Minnesota, his first start, a lot of the same things, quick to process, was able to get the ball out of his hands fast.

But I just need him to make some of those deeper throws.

So, not bad, but still, some of the things that Coach Tomlin is saying is exactly the same things and what we saw and why he's still going to be able to beat a quarterback for the next like the next couple of weeks.

Yeah, quarterbacks.

Speaking of quarterbacks, they are actually the Browns.

I don't know if I want to say y'all or they.

When it's the boy, you say the Browns, you can still say y'all.

Y'all, okay.

I ain't gonna be saying no, we, I'm gonna say us then.

Okay, okay.

So, y'all,

y'all are actually paying eight quarterbacks.

Four of them are on the team, but only two of them are active.

One is on practice squad.

And

your boy,

Kevin Stefanski

said he don't know who the backup is.

I mean, I'm doing the math right now.

The backup.

Listen, I was trying not to.

like give any like, oh, y'all trying to, you know, fuck over

all this other stuff.

I was trying to like, trying to keep it even, but this right here, you telling me your head coach don't know who his backup is, and he only got two of them on the active roster.

Huh?

This, bro, Devo, I'm going to tell you this.

I'm going to go ahead and get to it.

We only all right.

No, bump it.

It ain't no way he wanted this man on his team, bro.

That's the most.

I don't know who my backup quarterback is.

You only got two of them.

You just traded the one that was supposed to be two.

Right now, three.

Got to be two.

I can't.

They play.

What are they talking about?

You know what, Debo?

They're talking about Zappy.

They're talking about their disrespecting right now

in the level that

our practice squad quarterback.

So you telling me you go bring him up for practice squad and make him two in front of your door?

Listen.

Debo, I'm not telling you what I'm going to do.

This is what I'm this.

This is what I'm trying to tell you right now.

And this is where I'm ready to go.

Can you hear me?

Hey, listen, man.

Can you hear me?

Why ain't y'all just trading him to Cincinnati?

No, hello.

You traded your

Flacco over there, and he was your two, and you still don't know who your two is now.

Hell, you could have.

Debo, what I'm trying to know.

This is what I'm trying to tell you.

You need to let me tell you something.

This

right here is straight disrespectful.

Why I'm saying this this is, I don't give a damn.

Shador was your fifth round pick after you picked Dylan Gabriel.

I understand all of this.

This is just your fifth round pick.

Joe Flacco starts.

Dylan Gabriel is second.

Shador is third.

Zappi didn't even make your active roster.

He couldn't even make your team.

So, just mathematically, you don't disrespect your fifth round pick like this.

Joe Flacco gets his opportunity.

The second round pick, the third round picked Dylan.

Now he gets the opportunity.

He's the starter now.

You got rid of Flacco.

Boom.

Shador is number two.

If you don't make Shador your number two, now you're being very disrespectful.

I have to ask you, why is he not your number two?

Yes.

Because now you're trying to throw in Zappy.

He couldn't even make you active roster.

You had three quarterbacks to start the season.

Just the way it goes.

One is gone, then the other one comes up.

Then he gone, and now he moves up.

Hey, hey, hey, hey, listen, hold up, hold up, hold up.

What is this going to do to the locker room for guys who are in support of shador for anybody

out there and you say you don't know who your backup number two quarterback is anybody i'm looking at you as a head coach is like this is the dumbest

in the world it's the most disrespectful motherfucker in the world how do you do this like end of the day i understand if you don't like shador if you do like him if you don't like him as a football he don't like him for sure

obviously now you can't convince me enough obviously now no for sure he definitely he definitely don't like him he definitely don't like him he definitely don't like him and i don't even like to get like this because it's really supposed to be you are football is the only sport where you if you you're gonna get your opportunity because it's how good you are and when you play and then like like it don't matter about nothing don't matter about your color don't matter about nothing it's if you perform you can play so right now when dylan is on you drafted this man you had petting whatever flight he should be back up to get his opportunity your head coach creating more drama you created you only got two quarterbacks on your team all you had to do was say yes shador is the backup why would he out of your way to say you don't know yes you're going out of your way debo he's going out of his way to create something and then at the same time like their neck women were protecting when he was the third strength quarterback don't keep him don't have him available to speak to the media he doesn't want to talk to the media he has nothing to say to the media because he knows that he's not going to play so he's going going to chill and do what he got to do.

Y'all keep making him available, letting him be available.

Is

y'all, y'all handled it wrong, y'all don't want your daughter to be there, so let him go.

Zero, let him go, let him go.

I'm good, I'm good, I'm good on that because, yeah, they just doing my dog, they're doing, they're

doing him wrong as a football player, as a draft pick for the Browns.

I would feel disrespected

for sure, for sure.

Like, and as the locker room, I'm like, yo,

I was trying to be even killed with it, but yo, they really do not like this cat, man.

I really don't like him.

And they just got rid of my good man, Greg Newsome, too.

It makes no sense.

Balling this year, having a great year, great, one of the best locker room dudes ever, and just got rid of him.

I don't get it.

I don't get it.

Hey, Bruce, you know, you know, BA, Bruce Arians, he was the coordinator for us, head coach in Arizona.

He said, I don't know how

you keep in this job this long.

Like, how do you, after that, how, I don't, you're the owner.

Oh, that's that shit you was talking about in Cleveland, how they don't know what the hell they're doing, period.

Is that what you was talking about?

I mean, right now, with this, in the way of this looking, is, I don't know what to say.

Like, they don't, they obviously don't know what they're doing.

Like, from this,

it's just, it's just all bad moves.

It's bad business.

It's the way you treat people.

I mean, at the end of the day, too, you've, you've, you, the Steelers, they do a better job like Kenny Pickett.

They picked a first round draft pick.

They knew they messed up.

They were able to move on.

They're grown.

They can make decisions and move on and be able to take accountability.

You got to be able to take accountability when you make a bad move and move on and grow up and then make better moves moving forward.

Like move like a business.

Don't do that.

Like this is just crazy.

Well, hey, listen, at least the Bangles.

think that, you know, they got a, they, they, they got a better chance at, you know, with hope this season when they, when they got Flacco.

You think they got a better chance with Flacco in there?

I mean,

they don't, I mean, he's going to throw the ball.

Jamar Chase is going to have some numbers.

T.

Higgins is going to have his opportunities.

Flacco's a vet.

I mean, he's going to have those receivers that

he going to give him a chance.

He's going to throw it up.

So, I mean,

I don't believe in the Bengals.

I don't think the Bengals are going to be doing too much better.

I think Flacco is going to make them serviceable but i don't see them winning too many more games than they would have with browler

well it says

gives the team hope

hope for this season oh

what is more hope than they had with the other cat i think you know they're definitely going to have a better chance you know with with joe if the defense is able to play as well as they did against the lions but again they're still what a 30th ranked defense right now?

They're giving up a lot.

They actually had some, you know, they had some good stuff.

But at the same time,

they're giving up sacks too.

The offense is dead last.

Flacco is not going to help you with anything on the rush.

Like he's going to be sitting back there in the pocket, you know,

just, you know, they go get you no scramble yards.

He's going to do more than like 170 yards a game, but who knows?

You're going to to get more sacks that's no question because he will be sitting right there in the pocket he you ain't got to worry about him running nowhere you're going to know where he at but if he you know if he gets on time he gets his timing good and everything is yeah it's it's going to look different it got to look better than what they had yeah it got to look better than what they had unless he go and do what he did with cleveland with all them picks i don't know it might look something like the same that that that's what i'm trying to say i'm not knocking flack i love joe i mean joe flack is a good man but it's talking we're talking it's a performance-based sport and it's the nfl it's the best of the best like they they're getting you're getting paid to play a game so at the end of the day now when while i'm on this side i understand why you're going to be able to get graded accordingly you know i'm saying the eye in the sky don't lie if you're throwing if you're just throwing pick picks up in the air and miscommunications over there you haven't been in that that situation so hopefully you can learn the offense a little faster because you've been in the league for a while but i remember when you were in Cleveland, and when we got you up out of there, and I was asking for them to get you up out of there, I know it could be a change of scenery, but you're going in year 19, year 18.

Like, I'm, I mean,

I don't know, I just don't think it could be too much of a like jolt of energy, you know what I'm saying, that your blacko's gonna throw to the bangles to make them do too much better.

Hope, understandably, hopefully, we all got hope.

We all got hope, hope, faith, and charity, hope, faith, and charity,

man.

Michael Irving went off on a podcast podcast for them saying that Deion Sanders couldn't cover the current NFL receivers, man.

Listen to this.

The receivers from back then.

Might not be prime, though.

These guys that he played against weren't that fast, bro.

They were stronger, but they weren't that fast.

These guys, no,

I would love to see him.

I would have loved to see him play against Chad in his prime.

I would have loved to see him play against Justin Jefferson right now in the day.

You know, all these different guys.

I would love to see him cover Tyree.

If Prime is who we think he is, are you shitting me?

We are the two most accomplished receivers in the history of this game.

When you're talking about the most important things, championships, and your stupid ass talking about

running fast like people weren't running fast back then.

Are you shitting me?

What the hell are you talking about?

I don't even know your name,

dude.

Hey, man.

Listen, what you think, Devo?

I am right there with him.

It is more players back then

that could play now and have greater success than it is players right now that could play back then

because you had to worry about getting your head took off.

You could bang a receiver every play.

It wasn't about, oh, he's not by the ball, all that.

You run your route and the play is about to be dead and over.

Don't be surprised that safety come down and just blop you anyway.

They give you two more steps.

What are you talking about?

They give you two more steps.

Dude, yes.

It was a whole two steps.

It was a whole step.

We only had one.

The receivers would not last back then.

Like you, the receivers back then coming to now, man, you can't touch them.

You can't do none of that.

And you got guys back then who are getting beat up all the way up the field, still breaking loose and getting catches.

Now you touch a dude after five yards and they go at first down.

What are you talking about?

Don't nobody even know who this goofball is anyway.

Like anybody can say anything that they want to.

Dude is out of his rabid ass mind, just running his mouth for clout and

bullshit, dude.

I don't even, that is crazy for that to even be said.

Like the game is way too physical back then, probably for half of these receivers now to even play then.

Did.

I mean,

I'm so

1000% Deion Sanders would do whatever he wants to do.

His speed, his knowing with the ball, knowing the game, his ball skills.

Deion Sanders, in my opinion, was the best cornerback player I've ever seen in my life.

And that is just off the strength of just the swag, the way he was able able to play the ball and picks.

Like you're able to be so disrespectful to this.

This was one of the greatest to ever played a position

couldn't play into, huh?

No, prime time.

I need to catch your podcast for that, bro.

Primetime Deion Sanders.

And that's when they was literally like, he was being able to put hands in.

Like they were playing real ball.

That's why I respect them, OGs, too, because you can put your hands on the receivers and the receivers, too.

I respect them even more because you was getting beat up for real.

So like, you being able to get through this, being able to know I'm running this slant.

I got him grabbing on my arm.

I'm about to get fumbled upside my head, catching it, and still coming through there and lasting.

No, no alligator arms, no nothing.

It's, it was a guard, it was, it was just gangsters out there playing.

And I think with Deion's speed, the way that you can't watch the tape and know Dion, Deion's running 4-2.

Deion's catching these picks.

He's on the bottom.

What?

Did you know how fast he was?

Like,

you can have no clue about what you're talking about.

You have no idea.

Like, you need, like, if you got anybody that's following you right now, watching your show, they need to unsubscribe because if I see they following you, I'm going to consider them just as stupid as you, if not more.

Saying that Dion couldn't, he said that Dion wouldn't be able to cover these NFL receivers.

That is ridiculous.

Thibault, Dion Deion Sanders, that played professional baseball, that ran around

two-way professional baseball.

Ran around in Florida State, like at the combine, ran through the joint and left, knew he was getting drafted.

Like, what all the chains for the joint, everybody trying to play.

Deion already knew what time it was.

He had swag before swag, and then went and got picks and won Super Bowls, changed franchises.

This is my house in Atlanta.

Go back there and run pick six back and talk to people crazy.

Like Jerry Rice, talk to him crazy.

Michael Irman, talking to him crazy, like real Hall of Famers, real goat jacket guys.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, I understand Jamar Chase, definitely, but at the same time he would have had to deal with Prime.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, no question

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Like, everybody would have had to deal with Prime the same way.

Like, the safeties back then stopped playing, man.

It ain't no, oh, if I don't catch the ball, they can't.

No, you go get hit.

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The ball

three yards away, but you go get mollywopped.

Regardless,

see if you come back out for the next play.

That's crazy.

You're going to be running across that middle, like you said, with them alligator arms, not reaching for nothing, all of that.

That's not.

That's one thing I will never, ever, ever, ever, ever do is disrespect the OGs.

You can't.

You can't.

That's my big thing, dude.

Like, you can't.

The biggest,

I ain't gonna say honor.

It was an honor.

Like, like the biggest thing that I ever got told to me was by the old school players like

Joe Green, you know what I'm saying?

Mean Joe,

Lambert, like guys like that that were like, yo,

you could have played with us back then.

Like as a linebacker?

Would them say that to you?

Like I'm like, oh yeah, for sure.

The best thing you could ask for is just the recognition of the og the people that came before you that you wanted to show them that you trying to hold it down do it the right way you know what i'm saying and like recognition like approval like yes man i'm out here working trying to get it that's why i love ogs that always come back and look out and you always gonna respect the ogs always dude no question dude

it was I had something, Debo, I wanted to ask you too, man.

I wanted to tell you, actually, I seen this best four-linebacker joint from my man.

He posted it of all time.

And they had Ray Lewis, Brian Erlacher, you,

and one other, dude.

It was four of them, bro.

How they ain't got Lawrence Taylor on there?

It was LT, LT, LT, obviously, my bad.

My bad, my bad, my bad.

And LT, it was four.

It was L T, Ray Lewis, Brian Erlacher, and you.

That was the joint that my man posted from DC.

I got it.

And it was, I was like this.

That's...

Real love right there.

Oh, no question.

Real love.

I had to let you know that, Deball.

I saw it yesterday and and I was like, I'm going to screenshot.

I'm going to send it to you.

But everybody, crazy love.

LT Ray Lewis.

But when they put my good man, my co-I'm his co-host, my good man, Debo.

I just want to let you know.

I appreciate it.

We see you, Debo.

We see you, OG.

Whoever put that up, we're going to go ahead and put it on the screen.

We're going to go ahead and get you some more, whatever it is.

We love that.

That's a good

dude.

Speaking of

recognition, I guess this is not the kind of recognition you want.

Chris Jones,

he admitted his mistake, I guess, letting up on the touchdown.

You ever been in a situation like that where you was like, yo,

I stopped, but

then I restarted, but

you ever, you ever, you ever, I know I've done it.

I've done it once.

And from that point forward, I'm like, yo, if I feel like I have any chance of getting there, like I got to keep running because you play it back in your head and you're like, dang, if I did that, especially when you lose, like,

it could have won us the game.

Everybody has a situation like that, but I don't, I've never had a situation like to that extreme where I stop, I may like give a little less effort.

One time that I did, like, it was like, yeah, I gave the jog.

And if I hadn't, I know for sure I could have got there.

What, uh,

what's your, what's your, uh, what's your take on guys that that do this and consistently do it, like multiple plays?

I mean,

the first thing we learned, Debo, was to get to the ball.

You know what I'm saying?

And then the difference was in the NFL was that everybody has to be touched down.

Everybody has to be touched down.

So as a cornerback, they always made sure that they taught us, you know what I'm saying?

If the receiver catches it, goes down,

make sure you down and make sure you touch him down.

So my biggest thing is always trying to just finish the play.

You know what's going to happen is as as a DB, I'm trying to cover when the quarterback falls down.

I know it was funny because the defensive lineman, you're trying to just go touch the quarterback because you can get

to it fast.

They run into that quarterback so fast.

I got to get to it.

Oh, that's me.

That's me.

That's a sack.

That's the easiest sack in the world.

So like, I'm like.

when that went them boys was trying to steal that i would never be able to touch somebody on the ground before they would touch them so my whole thing was i would know like get them down my defensive linemen were always thirsty for those extra, those extra sacks.

But I mean, I don't, I don't mean to want to fault him in that, but at the end of the day, like, you would D-line to blow, play into the whistle.

It's the fourth quarter.

Hopefully, if he is down, you could like steal the sack.

Make sure, like, make sure the referees blow the whistle.

If you didn't hear nothing, like, keep, keep going.

I don't know if you heard it whistle or something, but like,

he stood up to it.

It's a mistake.

I know he didn't mean any harm by it.

And it hurts more when you lose the game.

You could really just went in there, probably tapped him down you know what i'm saying but when even in the process of him getting back up it was stop start stop start stop start brother he was just looking like like like he was glitching like is this play really happening or is it blown down did he really get up fall down get up fall down but yeah so i think he knew it was a mistake get to the if you don't if you see if you see him running hit him it's still live action we still in the game you know i'm saying like you referee referees gonna let you know when the play is over oh yeah no question about that yeah i think that's uh

you know and i i think you're adding to it the fact that he might have been tired too you know what i'm saying you know fatigue can make a coward out of all of us on the ball on the ball on the ball yeah yeah so i mean i it's you know it's hit and miss but i i respect the fact that he owned up to it and you know it's like yeah

that's definitely something that uh shouldn't happen

as a captain as a leader you know ionisky don't lie the tape you looking looking at it like this, what do you, you got a person just standing on the tape.

Like, that's not a good look.

You post the game's going on, sir.

Run.

You know what I'm saying?

If you need one, we'll get you one in there.

I know there's plenty of little, the backup dude ready to get in the game,

thirsty for action.

Like, if you can't run, get out, but

you don't want to harm your team.

Yeah, yeah.

Like, if my, you know, if my, if my 50%

is still better than the dude behind me, fresh 100%, like, why do we even have him on the team?

Like, we got to get out of here.

We got to get out.

Evaluate and be able to be like, yo, let me get out of here, get some breath.

If that's the case, and then pop back in and, you know, two, three plays or whatever.

But when it's in that situation, you're that close, you know, you're thinking, oh man, I got to stand here.

I got to, I got to do what I can.

But when it turns out looking like that, and you could have had a fresh body in there that was going 100 miles an hour, you know, it makes you, it makes you rethink the situation.

So thousand percent.

100%,

you know, agree, understand all that.

But

uh

at least he took ownership for it man yeah no that's the biggest part like just not trying to make excuses for it like chris jones a grown ass man and

like saying i don't know who my backup quarterback is you know like and you only got two of them on the damn team i don't know y'all over there y'all y'all messed up over there man speaking of that the rams linebacker Jerry Verse stated that he'd be fucking furious if Lamar Jackson isn't playing on Sunday.

He said that Lamar was on his sack list with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen.

You know, I think,

what do you think when

guys

you are a linebacker, so you sacking the quarterback?

What do you think about this?

Me?

Yes.

Now,

so

here again, I don't want to give bulletin board material.

Okay.

Okay.

The reason I like it and dislike it,

I dislike it because you just gave Bulletin Board material of personally

getting a sack on Lamar Jackson, Patrick Mahomes, and Josh Allen.

Now, what you also did is said, I'm going to whoop the lines of the Ravens,

the Bills, and the Chiefs.

So now you just told

all three of these people that, yo, I'm putting these on my sack list so I got to play them.

It don't matter who the hell is in front of me and

to hell with all that so you just gave bulletin board material now in the fact of if you put it like this i had um actually i did an interview i don't know if we could play but i did an interview with bill cower and they were asking a question like if you saw i believe it was um

terrell suggests broke down on the side of the road coming into the game on Sunday, would you pick him up?

And I said, yes, I would pick him up.

The reason I would pick him up is because I want their team at full strength.

So there's no excuses why you lost this game.

You weren't missing anybody.

Nobody was hurt and everybody was there, healthy, on time, prepared.

Now, that is an answer that I would love to hear and go for, of course, because I gave it, you know, but the reasoning is because I want you at full strength.

So there's no excuse on why you lost this game.

You weren't missing anyone.

The I'm going to get a sack on these three guys means I'm going to get a sack on these three guys and I'm going to whoop whoever the hell is in front of me.

No matter what they do, they ain't going to be able to stop me.

That's why I

like it and don't like it.

What about you?

So I'm more,

I don't like offensive player, defensive players, you're going to have to go deal with them.

So

I like that he's saying it because he has a job to do.

He's going to be able to, he doesn't have to go against these tackles and get the job done.

Bulletin ball ball material is not something that I like for anybody to do.

You know what I'm saying?

There's no kind of, no reason for it.

I don't think.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm not mad at it because end of the day, you're going to have to go out there.

You're going to have to perform and you're going to have to stand on what you did.

And that's you saying that isn't going to make my job any more difficult.

I'm going to have to go out here and cover these people and do, do my, do my job.

So I just want them to, if you do talk, I just want you to perform.

So at the end of the game, when we watching the tape, whatever, what you talking about, don't be getting thrown all out the club.

Let me see going to work.

You know what I'm saying?

Like, be going to work and be on your shit.

So then

I'll be good.

You went and got you one because being able to go,

we're going against the best anyway.

So saying like bucket list stuff, he's not knocking them.

He's saying basically he's giving them love.

Lamar Jackson's goat.

Patrick Mahomes, fire.

uh josh allen amazing if once i do that that's bucket list like i'm gonna do that those dudes are the best of the best and when i get them i'm geeked about it so it's in a respectful way but it's in the same way like you got to go do it so i'm not against it, but go ball out and just don't be out there looking crazy.

Because then, when you get to looking crazy, you only get a couple shots to go, like, talking shit.

You could, you can go talk, how are you gonna back it up?

I mean, if you're backing it up, I'm not mad at you because I'm not the one that's gonna be out there talking.

I'm gonna go in there, give no bulletin board material.

I know it's a job, it's gonna be done.

These dudes are gonna be trying to whoop my tail regardless.

So, I'm not gonna give them no reason to go any extra.

I'm just gonna go out there, handle my business, step off, be geeked.

And other dudes go about it, they weigh, you know what I'm saying it's cool but don't be out here talking crap and putting me in a position to be having to do handle your business and then you out here looking crazy if you handling business you talking talking and laying names let's go i'm i'm right behind you let's rock out you know did you have any uh did you have any team or or or players opponents that you look forward to you know during your career So honestly, it was in a bad, I look forward to playing Antonio Brown.

I look forward to playing you guys.

Us when I was with, when I was with the Browns.

No, you right.

You guys say it again when i was with the browns when i was with the browns i look forward to playing against the steelers because

antonio brown and big ben and mike t that was unbelievable the connection we because we came in together me and a b came in 2010 i was first and then he got he was like fifth round went to went to the steelers him with emmanuel sanders came in that joint and uh y'all had mike wallace too so i look forward to playing a b because i knew the browns they were putting me out the dry joe we you the first round, you get paid the big bucks.

You got AB.

You know what I'm saying?

That's your job.

That's your thing.

So then it was AB.

I looked forward to playing him because I knew he was going to come with the work.

And I knew I was either going to get put on Sports Center or if I made a play, I was going to be on Sports Center.

And then it was AJ Green.

I was always looking forward to playing him too because sometimes Andy would throw me one, but AJ would sometimes give me the work.

But I knew like these dudes are capable.

If I come out here tripping, I can get embarrassed.

You know what I'm saying?

Like they got me man to man versus these dudes out on the island.

My mom and kids and family are watching.

There's nothing funny.

My papa hit everybody.

Mama here, my papa here.

My granny watching my kids, everybody watching.

So I just know I'm in this game.

We're playing man to man.

We're single high.

So it can be vertical ball stone.

So I need to make sure that you had to drop all the men in the box and worry about that run back then, baby.

Come on, man.

I was, yeah, they were just, yeah, don't go over there.

So it was really Antonio Brown and Ben mainly and then AJ Green.

How about you?

You look forward to playing any quarterbacks or like one of the dogs, like New Any Lions was weak?

I look forward to playing everybody.

I play mind games with myself, dude.

The fact that a team showed up and they didn't forfeit,

I ain't lying, dog.

I took it.

Like, you came here because you thought you had an opportunity to win, to whoop my ass, to beat us, to dominate, whatever that process is that you need to come away with that.

W

I don't.

So I'm mind gaming myself from the beginning that you even showed up.

You know, they, that got to be disrespectful to me.

No, for sure.

I should have just went on here.

Y'all head coach should have been like, yo, we saying what we sang.

We only one step out there.

Let's forfeit this shit, man.

I know how good we are.

You know what I'm saying?

We don't want to get nobody hurt.

We don't want to get quarterback put to sleep, running back, receiver, whatever it was.

Like, so that was the mind game I played with myself.

I mean, even as, you know, I started, you know, in my career and, you know, I was all pro and all that.

Each year i came in and i'm like i'm hoping and and praying that they draft a a a linebacker an outside linebacker because now i'm already in my head are you drafting his dude to replace me huh okay i got something for you like each year i came in bro i'm fighting to make this team yeah i got a contract that's guaranteed i'm not even thinking about that i gotta make sure

When you're trying to be that, and that's that mindset too, Debo, when you're a dog and you really trying to be the best of the best and the best you can possibly be of anything nothing else that nobody else really got going on matters and you kind of come in a competition with yourself like like i'm going to be the best because i'm going to work harder than everybody i'm going to show you and i'm going to dominate like and there's nothing nobody can really tell you so when

you discipline you're going to be in place on time you're going to eat certain things you're going to act a certain way because you know you got a goal you know what i'm saying so that whole mental state i feel like that i know with that you're on and when certain football when players get into that zone and like like you know greatness when you see it because you know people are trying to really strive to something like they're working on something they're disciplined they come in in this joint they're they're dedicated they're focused you know what I'm saying Yeah, like each year, I would come in and, you know, I'm relearning the defense and I'll do my flashcards and all that.

And through that process, you know, everybody like, yo, bro, you've been here for like six years.

What you doing, bro?

I'm like, I'm learning the defense, dude.

I need to know what I need to do.

So once I got down, what it was that I knew I had to do to where I could look at the, hear the call and be like, okay, I got to do this, that, and the third.

And if something happens, it's a nuance of it of this.

Now I need to know what my

end is doing.

And then I need to know what my corner is doing.

Then I need to know what my safety is doing.

I need to know what my inside linebacker is doing.

So now I know what this whole half of the line over here is doing.

Why?

Because if I know what everybody over here is doing and I have nothing in my area i know what i can do to better help my teammate which helps us which helps the whole team and same thing now from there i'm like all right i want to know what's happening on the other side what that what that corner is doing what that safety is doing you know what i'm saying so that i again if nothing's here i can better help them help myself same thing all right i know my corner he go be sitting here squatting right here so i could go ahead and when i see that little uh uh that he go do i don't even got a bite on it because i know my corner go be sitting there i could go ahead get back because i know they're about to try and throw the seven 50 yards behind me you know what i'm saying like things like that so yeah for me it was it was a mind game that i i was i was able to play with myself like all the way until the end of my career bro

That's the way to do it, bro.

And then I bet when you get into it like that, too, when you start learning your position and not only just your stuff, you start learning everybody else's.

You start meeting when your linebacker knows his job and your job and everybody else's.

That communication is like so effortless.

Y'all looking at something and see it without seeing, like, like this.

Y'all know what's about to happen.

All right, bet.

He goes here, I'm gonna go here.

Like, it's just that soft communication.

So, like, it's just it just starts.

And that's the same thing, dude.

Like, when you blitzing, you know, you faking a blitz.

If I'm sitting up here faking,

the strings attached.

Right.

Somebody has to be moving

like i'm about to come down i need my safety back here to play with me like he's rolling down to that curl flat now when he see the two he like oh yeah it's about to be a real bliss and now we drop out of there yes now we sitting there and you know i'm sitting out here on the two and i'm supposed to be blitzing but the damn safety done came and sat right behind me because he don't want to play on this like listen dude if i'm sitting here and you come sit behind me he know i'm coming don't get me up behind me for nothing get on the string with me man and then come down when you see me take off because you're giving him an opportunity to read the mail before we even delivered it dude like they're like yo yeah we got it on tracking gps right here

yeah it's coming they three blocks down like you're not helping the situation and that's something else like you got younger guys that's why when you get older guys groups like we had you know from like 2007 to 12 65 whatever it is like you got a group of dudes that's been with each other for a while so they know and understand every concept of this defense and what needs to be done to make the defense better, to make each player better.

If you go out there and, you know, I'm doing my job well, but my corner is doing his job even better and my D line is doing it.

It's going to make me look as if I am doing far better than what I may actually be doing, which will help you get some money down the line.

If you're a person that's there and your D line is rushing the passer like crazy and he has to throw that rock and you a DB, he got to get rid of it.

Now you getting more picks because he slinging, he ducking, he gunning and ducking.

Like

easy work.

You're not out there covering for six seconds.

Right.

Now, if I got, if I got, you know, my, my, my DBs, I got y'all out there and y'all covering like, like, you know, flies on shit, I get more time to get to the quarterback.

A thousand percent.

It all worked together.

Yeah.

So listen, before we get out of here, we got to thank you guys for joining us.

Yes.

Ego and Joe, okay?

Again, make sure you guys like and subscribe.

But we're going to be back here on Monday.

And somebody is playing on Sunday.

We playing against y'all, bumass.

So you rooting for it, Joe?

Huh?

Who I'm rooting for?

Why you make like you can't hear every time I ask you this?

Huh?

Huh?

I told you what I'm doing.

I'm rooting for a good game.

I hope Dylan Gabriel goes out there.

I want to see what he's going to do, man.

Let's see.

Let's see what he's going to do, or you want him to do a certain thing.

I can tell you what I want Aaron Rodgers to do.

I can tell you what I want, what I want the defense to do.

I can tell you what I want the offense to do.

I want him to come out there, run the ball down Cleveland's motherfucking throat, and Aaron Rodgers pass for another 300, come away from that game with 600 yards.

Defense go out there, get 10 sacks, three picks, two touchdowns, and they don't get nothing but three yards.

That's what I want.

What you want, Joe?

I don't want that.

I want it to be probably, let's say,

I want two great defensive games, you know.

Offense both play, you know what I'm saying, pretty well, you know.

And,

you know, both teams lead the stadium, you know what I'm saying?

Feeling like,

feeling feeling good and feeling like they move they're moving in a positive direction that's what i want i know he ain't talking to me who the hell is he talking to he feeding some i mean he think i'm supposed to eat that and believe that

hey man man what's up i just told you i felt it look it's past the time man

yeah yeah yeah uh hey listen man y'all come back here monday

okay

Joe, go be here.

Let's see what Joe wearing on Monday.

Because I promise you, if you come in completely Cleveland gear and by the grace of God, some way they done prayed hard enough to get through to the Lord and they done give them a W,

if you come in here laughing and gloating and smiling, have some Cleveland stuff on, I'm going.

I'm going to snap.

I'm coming right there to VA.

Hey, man, listen, y'all come live, man.

Catch me and Debo, man.

Make sure y'all like, subscribe, catch us on Monday so you can see, you know what I'm saying, how Debo feels after the game.

I know how I'm going to feel.

You know what I'm saying?

I'm going to feel like

either

I'm going to feel like my two teams play, and I'm going to know if one is going to, if it's going really, really good or really, really bad.

That's what I'm going to know.

Listen, man, y'all come back here Monday for the Stiller W and we out.

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