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ocho

didn't i tell you what

bronco country

hey hey back on listen listen do me do me a favor This is now what you're going to have to do.

This is the one game I wasn't able to see.

This is the one game I wasn't able to watch because while they were playing, obviously, I was giving my pep talk to my team

in the locker room.

So I wasn't able to.

You might not we just want to talk to them anymore.

Not man, this is the one game I couldn't see, but but you got there.

You got to give me, give me in context what happened, how the game went, why they broncose defense dominated.

Okay,

uh,

they sacked Jalen Hurts six times, six, six times.

Oh, tell me how many passes they batted down.

Go down, you talk about they sacked Jalen Hurt six times with that.

Six times.

Bonito got him two and a half times.

Hold on, with that offensive line?

Six times.

We got the best.

That front four, that front four we got.

Yeah.

Get home.

Got home.

Okay.

Okay.

Saquon.

Saquon had six carries for 30 yards.

They had 11 rushes for 45 yards.

So what they did is that they listened to y'all.

Man, throw the ball, throw the ball, throw the ball.

That's not what they do.

Right.

They throw when they want to, not when they have to.

And even even though the Broncos let them get out there, they had a 17-3 lead.

Broncos say, nah, we're going to shut y'all down.

We're going to give y'all nothing.

How many yards they have the second half?

If you take that last drive out,

because at one point, I think they had like 40 yards in the second half.

Wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait, let me catch up, Nat, because you're talking too fast.

Go ahead, go ahead.

They had a 17-3 lead.

The Eagles had a 17-3 lead.

17-3.

Let me tell you how confident the Broncos were.

They scored and went for two.

Did they get it?

Got it.

18-17.

Then they kicked the field goal.

Wait, so at what point, if they were 17-3, did they get it?

It was 17-3.

They scored a touchdown, made it 17-10.

Scored another touchdown, went for two to make it 18-17.

Okay.

Stopped them, made them point, go three and out, got the ball back, drove down the field.

Kicked the field goal.

So they went up 17-3, right?

The the way they got up 17 3 was it on the ground or through the air or was it a combination of both they read uh uh they read uh like a double move just on say saquan motion out the backfield kind of made like a double move on the linebacker where he ran out the swung out the backfield and made like a double move yeah beat the linebacker for a 47-yard touchdown okay uh

uh dallas guarded caught one you know they run that zone read and then the tight end like he's gonna block but he go slides to the flat oh yeah

a couple times okay but it wasn't really nothing i mean no big plays uh man i was watching aj brown yes sir

man aj ran a slant an under and a sluggo that's the only thing i saw him run he didn't run the curl he run he run the curl too a slant an under and a sluggo

that's it that's it

and he we had look They taking advantage of Riley Moss.

Riley Moss wasn't, I mean, most of the yards came on Riley Moss.

Right.

He gave up a deep play to Devontae and whoever else.

But hey but you know number two he ain't nobody getting nothing on him

yeah you got something on him they ran uh uh aj on an under and he kind of picked because you know he started out there and then uh uh smitty

run the rubs and so he had to fight through that but

what nothing happened i was i was surprised how many times they sacked him right um The Broncos sacked Jalen Hurts six times and batted down nine of his 38 passes.

Benito led the way with two and a half sacks.

He had six sacks in the past three games.

He leads the league, if I'm not mistaken, with seven.

The Eagles managed just 42 yards in the fourth quarter.

That's including that drive, right?

That's including that drive at the end of the game.

42 yards in total?

42.

What do you think they should have done better?

Should they have, they should have done that?

They should have played the Broncos.

They should have put the Broncos on the schedule.

That's what they should have done.

Yeah, let's start with that.

Hold on, I'm trying, I'm trying to understand what is it that the Eagles didn't do that they didn't do.

Did you watch the Broncos Monday night?

What they did to your team,

yeah, they did worse, they did worse to the Eagles

as far as bum rushing them, right?

But you have to understand, my team is handicapped, so there's a reason why your Broncos beat us.

So, let's the Eagles' excuse because we did it to them too.

Okay, let's not get beside ourselves now.

Let's not

beside ourselves, Cortland Sutton was mossing your guy, Quinn Yon moss.

Give me that.

Hold on.

Give me this.

He mossed him.

You showed any kind of way.

I gotta see.

I gotta see the film.

Dude, you can watch it.

I gotta see the all-22 to get it.

He follows Sutton around.

Sutton had eight for 99.

The whole game?

Yep.

Okay, but listen, what's going to happen is when you have games like this, Keon Mission right now, on the way he's playing, the way he's played the first three, four weeks, whatever it is.

I forgot.

We're in week four, right?

Week five.

Okay,

week five.

His first four weeks, that young bull, young bull is, is, is, is in the conversation for top five this early, this early in his career.

He's very good.

He's very technical.

He's phenomenal.

Hey, listen, I hate to do comparisons, but I'm going to compare Keon Mitchell to somebody on the field.

He's just like goddamn Denzel Ward damn near.

From a technical standpoint, an old position to make a play.

So if Cortland Sutton did have eight for 99 or whatever it may have been maybe because jump ball would be his strength and that wouldn't that wouldn't be keon's middle strength because that advantage goes to cortland sudden who is the taller bigger individual but um listen the eagle could lose a game

the eagle could lose a game yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but but see now

now aj can get their attention yeah you see when we when we have to throw and they know we have to throw it's a different ball game yeah you see everybody oh no bro saquon people ain't gonna let Saquon go crazy like he went last year.

You know, uh, uh, uh,

Dickerson is in and out of the lineup.

You know, he got hurt, had the surgery, got nicked again.

He's out.

Your right guard, Mikai Bechton, he left with the Chargers.

Uh, Lane Johnson has been dealing with stuff all year long, so he hasn't kind of been the Lane Johnson that we're used to seeing.

That's not this, that's not the same Eagles lineup, right?

And so, the uh, what started at the beginning of the season, they're taking the lumps lumps and bruises.

They're taking some lumps right now.

They sacked both twice, but I thought overall he played well.

He missed a throw here or there.

Look, he's only in his second year.

But to go on the road and do that

in a hostile environment to the team that won the Super Bowl last year, the Broncos had to be, they have to feel really good about what they were able to do today.

If I'm Sean Payton, I'm saying, see,

this is what we're capable of doing.

We don't have to take a backseat to anybody.

When we have a great week of practice, when we pay attention to details, when we take care of what we're supposed to take care of, clean game, no turnovers.

We can go on the road or we can be anybody, anywhere, at any time.

Yeah.

Yeah.

I like it.

I like it.

I like it.

Listen,

what I wouldn't do is I wouldn't get too high up on my bridges, you know.

Don't count your chicken before, don't count your eggs before, don't count your chicken before the egg.

How you say it?

How you say it?

How the single?

go don't catch the chicken before they hatch yeah don't yeah yeah don't do that y'all y'all want to y'all want these already hatch listen y'all y'all y'all be the super bowl champs but when it comes time when we talk about after thanksgiving when real football season starts we talk about playoff football are y'all still gonna be in the chase are y'all i know who won't be y'all won't be listen first of all who is y'all who is y'all

who is y'all we talk about

we talk about the broncos oh we see where we are

you see where we are

Y'all two and three.

Two and three?

Who told you that?

What y'all three and two?

Better than y'all.

Whatever y'all are, we not.

Okay, okay, okay.

I don't know what we are.

I don't know what we are off the top of my head.

Right.

But we are what y'all are.

So let me tell you something.

Are you excited?

You excited where y'all at right now?

You happy about today's win?

Everything I told you.

I said, oh, yo, y'all going to win y'all first two games and y'all lose in the next three.

Chat, did I tell him that?

Hold on, hold on.

This is what you're not gonna do.

This, this is what we're not gonna do.

See, and the chat should have a better understanding.

For me, for me, I have to, my faith is always gonna lie with my bangles.

You hear me?

If I cut myself right now, I'm gonna bleed orange and black.

See, that's what's gonna happen.

So, I understand.

I understand, and you understand as well.

Our chances of continuously

and winning games

are solely based on our quarterback playing.

He's out.

He's out.

Now, I know he's out, but I still have to keep my faith and my love and my allegiance to my team.

Unlike most people, when the quarterback goes down, they like to jump ship.

Well, the show right there.

Wendy, when they, when they going to win another game, when they,

when they, when they going to win another game.

If there was any more time on the clock, whenever whenever we get to that game, we'll talk about that.

When we get to that game, we'll talk about that.

Boy, y'all could have played another, or y'all could have played another four quarters.

They should have.

You better be glad they took a knee.

Hey, be careful because if we played another four quarters, we might have come back and won that game.

They could have played to tomorrow.

And y'all still wouldn't win in that game.

You don't do that.

You saw, yeah, you saw, you saw number six and then number one, and they started, they started getting that chemistry.

They started to get going, huh?

You saw that, right?

And we are not high school class.

Hold on, are we?

Are are we on the game now?

Are we on the on the on uh no, we ain't on the game, man?

Ain't nobody talking about no bingles right now.

We got other good games to talk about before we talk about them bums.

Let me know.

I'm about, I'm about to get okay.

I'll let you know right now.

You don't know, so I ain't let you know, so you don't know.

Okay, let me put these on good guys here, with back.

How y'all doing, chat?

Yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, you, and you show, and you show us happy about that goddamn, that goddamn,

whoa, I mean, what happened hold on don't you gotta do that you always that you always praise you always hooping and hollering about what i mean whoa whoa oh joe this is so unnecessary oh no i'm not listening oh my gosh why listen i'm just saying calm down and you mighty happy about them broncos but we still got another team that you claim i don't know what's going on chat i really don't oh oh don't worry about it we'll get to it what's the next game we're talking about

it's not that serious guy it's not that serious it's serious it's serious pull out your ravens helmet now

whoa, whoa.

We don't jump out to, we discussing the Broncos.

We talking about Bronco country.

We talk, hey, that game is over.

Let's talk about your Ravens.

Goddamn.

Okay.

Not A.J.

Brown, but Devontae Smith had plenty to say about Jalen Hurt's lack of communication after the team's first loss.

There are times we're looking at him and he may give a signal before.

or after we look.

And ultimately, we have to be on the same page.

We have to see that signal no matter what.

It's just the little things within the routes.

He may have seen something pre-snap and sometimes we didn't see it.

Hurts said doesn't remember any of those things happening and that he liked to have to talk to Smith to see what he's referencing.

Ocho?

First, it was AJ, now Devontae Smith.

Are you surprised?

That, because here's the thing, Ocho, now,

this is not a situation where Devontae and A.J.

Smith are first-year players.

Jalen Hurst is a first-year player.

They've been together for three years.

This, this, what, whatever he's referencing, and we don't know,

Jalen Hurts say, I don't know what he's talking about.

But whatever the case may be, there should not be miscommunication at this level, at this time of the year with those three.

Especially not in year three.

Now, this is one of the things that a lot of Eagles fans, and I would love Eagles fans to understand, listen, as receivers, and no, they love to use this moniker.

Oh, he's a diva, oh, he's selfish.

No, all players, all players want to be able to contribute.

Obviously, the winning is good, and you have a formula in the way you win, in the way you do things.

That is the Eagles' success.

That's a success.

Obviously, the players, especially your 1A and your 1B, they want to contribute and they want to be part of that.

The fact that they run the ball so much, when it is time to throw, you want everything to be as perfect as possible.

And it just hasn't been that.

So the communication in which AJ and Devontae Smith and

Jenna Hurts might be lacking because that's not the focal point of the offense.

It's not the focal point of the offense.

So there might be some great areas in that area that are never really addressed because that's not the way they do things in general.

But listen.

I think it's something that they will get fixed.

I think it's something that they will get fixed.

Stuff like this,

it shouldn't be it shouldn't be out it shouldn't be said publicly because it should be handled internally but the fact that their focal point is always we're the type of team we're going to run the ball first and we're going to worry about everything else if the run doesn't work and we have to abandon it

which i think that that's where the disconnect is i

me person

me personally ocho i think Devonta was trying to help Jalen by saying there was some miscommunication.

Because if there's no miscommunication, this is some bull diggity

so he was saying you know what maybe we missed a maybe we missed a signal or something that he saw something that we didn't see right right maybe

but if it's just nah we just look this bad

they look bad ocho they did there are stretches there where they look i'm like well damn did y'all practice

that bad yeah hold on you said did they practice and they look bad when it came yes i mean there are stretches where they look that bad that you that i questioned whether or not they had been practicing when it comes to the passing game you mean yes yes okay but teams are not going to let them run ocho you see and i and i said this people think the way you win a super bowl one year you're going to exactly come back and win it no they're not letting saquan run for 150 175 200 like he did last year every game we come we every after every game eagles game ojo we come in here saquan did something spectacular saquan did man saquan hit his head on the goal post from 80.

saquan hit it wait i got a question yes if teams aren't allowing saquan barkley to run obviously i'd i i'd be better suited to to to talk about this game that's the one game i wasn't able to watch but if they're not allowing saquan to run and the front four is not gonna be able to stop him you got to bring a safety down in the goddamn box in order to do that it's one-on-one on the outside yeah it shouldn't be any problem But you know what, Ocho, when you really look at it, if you really look at Philly's offense, it's really simplistic.

Yes, it's really simplistic.

The game of football is simple.

You don't have to overcoach it.

You don't have to overcomplicate it.

Yeah, but you look at you, but

you look at how, I'll give you an example.

You look at how

the Lions, how they put their players in position to succeed.

Oh, yeah.

You look at some of the other offensive coordinators and how they put their players.

Bro, you just run in unders, you running slants, you running sluggos.

Come on, bro.

Yeah, but listen, you think about the Lions offense, and then you look at the offense of the Eagles.

The Eagles win in a very simplistic form.

Yes,

you won

in a simplistic form.

The likelihood you're going to have to complicate, you're going to have to get a little bit more complicated now.

A little bit more creative, a little bit more, yes, creative.

Yes, but listen, the goddamn Lions, when it comes to their creativity offensively, it's a lot more complex, especially when you watch it from the outside.

They do a little bit of everything, they do, and you never, you never know what's coming.

You never know what's coming.

That's not, that's not the makeup, and that's not the DNA of the Eagles.

And they never had.

No.

They're not.

But I think in order for them to get back where they want to be, Ocho, they're going to have to open up display book.

They're going to have to open up.

They're going to have to trust Jalen Hurst to throw the ball and not when they get behind.

Listen, I don't think they want him to throw the ball 38 times.

I know that for certain.

That's not them.

That's not their recipe.

Ocho, 11 carries.

They had 11 rush attempts.

Saquon, who you paying $20 million a year, had six rush attempts.

Wait, Wait, wait, wait, hold on, hold on.

So you're saying they abandoned the run too early?

They couldn't get anything running.

Okay, so you had no choice but to throw.

But now, but see, we know that.

See, when Saquon is running, you're like, damn, what are they going to do now?

Are they going to run it or are they going to throw it?

We really don't know.

Well, they can't run the football with Saquon.

They hadn't been able to run all year.

They got really lucky.

in the Rams game that AJ, that Jalen and AJ got on the same page and AJ got hot and boom but

they're gonna they're gonna have they're gonna have to be better they're gonna have to be better than this uh aj brown getting eight targets for five catches and 43 yards and two for 11 and that ain't gonna cut it

that ain't gonna cut it because they're not because the running game is not successful as it was last year okay yeah

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Speaking of disappointing teams, is there any more disappointing team than your Bengals?

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Hold on.

Why are we going to the Bengal game?

The Ravens stayed at one o'clock.

That's okay.

The Ravens played at one o'clock.

Y'all played.

We start from, we start and work our way back.

You remember how I said how we did that?

Oh, that's what we're doing?

Yep.

Okay.

Well, go ahead.

Let's talk about my let's talk about my.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

I mean, you do an awful lot of talking for a team that got beat by 13.

Wait, by who?

Jared Goff.

was 19 of 23.

That means he had four incompletions, chat, 258 yards, three three touchdowns damn three

yeah david montgomery even threw a touchdown so in actuality there was 20 of 24 264 261 yards four tubs zero ints

hey can i can i tell you something real quick hey that man went home he went home yeah he went home he hey listen he came home and showed up

He came home and showed out.

But let's understand something.

For one, before I even start, me,

I got a chance to see Kirby.

I got to see J-Mo.

I got to see Amaros St.

Brown.

Got to see Terry on Arnold before the game.

You know,

I exchanged some pleasure with them boys, you know, and hoping, and hoping we would have had a better showing than what we did.

That's neither here nor there.

No, you had the showing that you had.

Listen, Jay Brown and Uncle, we are not a good enough team.

We are not a good enough team to overcome three toneovers.

We're not a good enough team.

We got to be able to protect the ball.

We got to be able to protect the ball.

Goddamn, Jamar Chase, Chase Brown, P.

Ryan, boy,

they fought they do you know what off.

They thought they you know what off to find ways to make play.

Jake Bryner running for his life

for the majority of the game and trying to make something out of nothing.

He did his best.

Chase did his best.

I would love for us to get everyone else involved.

I would love for us to get everyone else involved.

We have to do a better line, a better job up front.

We got to do a better job up front.

Jake Bryn running around for his life is one of the reasons why joe burrows hurt i'm not saying no names i'm not calling on names for those of you who are able to watch the game you understand that you understand that um we did the best we could as a team defensively i thought we played well i thought we played well based on

you gave up 37.

yeah listen uh listen we gave up 37 to a team that's probably ranked number maybe one number one they took a knee on the 10 yard line i i know you don't want you listen you don't want to be disrespectful to us yeah i want to be disrespectful yeah

listen they they won the game it's a good team but again i want to be openly and blatantly disrespectful okay okay listen it was a great win for the lions it was a great win for the lions i i had a great time meeting many lions fans you know this this this past three days i salute y'all i love you was nothing but mutual respect with the trash talk that we that we were doing but as you know my faithful my faithfulness and my allegiance will always lie here it will always lie with this and i i got to talk i got to talk and we lost today and and and i i bow my head with grace and and y'all won the game and it's nothing but love it's nothing but love it ain't no love it's bitter hatred no it ain't y'all terrible no no no no no you did all that talking now look at you yeah yeah it's okay listen i can sit here and say we lost

i bet chase was a db in high school too because he could tackle he had three tackles in the first half

look at one point chase was leading leading in tackles on that's what i know that's why i know he played db too he play on offense

it's okay i have a question for you um and chat i have a question for y'all too do you think i love i love zach taylor i love zach taylor and i hate that people are saying oh the coach needs to be fired and all this listen it don't matter who you're bringing there goddamn you can have jesus coaching But when Jesus called him plays, it's our job to execute him.

It's 11 people out there on the field.

For one, ain't running no offense.

He ain't running no goddamn offense.

And if he ain't got nobody blocking for whoever at the quarterback position, we can start there.

That ain't got shit to do with Zach Taylor.

We can start there.

But do you think, do you think we need to make a move and go get another quarterback?

I just want to know because we only two went.

Where are you going to get him from?

Amazon?

Because you talk,

you talking like they got one that you can order from Amazon and they give it to you and you get them next day.

But listen, you know the game.

You know the game.

I know the game.

When you're like this, do you want to salvage the season

in some shape?

No, you're not going to salvage nothing, OJ.

Y'all going to be done by things.

Y'all will be done by Halloween.

Joe is not coming back this year.

I'm not talking about Joe coming back.

I'm saying getting someone in there at the quarterback position that can facilitate the ball and protect it at the same same time.

No, that's why they stick it with him.

I don't know who your backup boy is to Jake Browning, but I don't believe you're bringing somebody

off the street.

Oh, Joe, over the last three games, you guys have been outscored 113 to 37.

The 76-point differential narrowly missed the record 80 worst three-game stretch in franchise history.

Bengals have three other quarterbacks on the roster.

Brett Rippen, who played for the Broncos, Mike White, who played for the, he played for the Jets and the Dolphins, and Sean Clifford are on the practice squad.

Jake Browning threw three interceptions and he had three touchdowns in garbage time.

They don't mean nothing.

Browning was booed after several drives in the first half.

At one point, he was booed and he led the offense as he led the offense on the field.

Browning

has thrown eight interceptions.

In four games.

So you heard what you just said?

He's thrown eight interceptions in four games.

And you still think there's not a quality backup that's on another team.

I'm not, I don't want to say no names that can come in and get no.

He knows your offense the best.

Your offensive line, they still, they haven't addressed, I mean, they haven't addressed that.

And your defense.

Now, I granted that you, you know, you turn the ball over three times a day.

Three.

But if you go back and look at over over the last,

but team, I mean, the Broncos beat the breaks off y'all.

The team before that beat the breaks off y'all.

Y'all defense isn't any good.

It's about, I mean, I wish I could give it to and say,

make it better, but I can't.

Y'all defense aren't it, your defense isn't very good.

And when your defense isn't good, And you because here's the thing, your defense is the worst part of your team.

Your offense is bad and turning the ball over, so the worst part of your team is playing the most.

The last thing that you want, Ocho, you want the best part of your team to play the most.

You want your offense to be on the field.

Now, your offense is turning the ball low, putting the worst part on the field.

I don't, you know what?

You know what?

Can I tell you something?

Yes.

I don't like the way you worded that.

I'm just saying, I don't like the way you worded that.

I think.

I don't want to say we're going to be all right, but y'all not.

Let me finish.

Let me finish.

Let me have a little faith.

Let me have a little faith.

Okay.

We got to have better quarterback plate.

The fact that you know Joe is out for us to even have a chance to be able to compete every Sunday, no matter who the hell we playing, we can't turn the ball over.

Y'all can't.

Trade for Andy Dalton.

Huh?

Where Andy at?

Where Andy?

Carolina.

No, we need a gunslinger.

We need a gunslinger.

Somebody

that's going to let that thing rip.

You hear me?

Somebody let that thing rip.

Someone that is experienced and has veteran president.

Well, trade for Jameis then.

Okay, now we're talking.

You say you want somebody to let it rip, but Jameis gonna throw.

Now we're talking.

Now, here's the thing, Ocho.

Talk to me.

He's gonna have three touchdown passes.

Yeah.

He's gonna have three interceptions too.

Now

he's gonna

throw for 350, 400.

400.

He's gonna, he's gonna go for 500.

But just so you know, know.

I'm just saying, listen, I love it.

You remember that game last year against the Broncos?

497.

But he had three picks in a football.

Yeah.

So I'm saying, would you rather us,

us having Jameis or having someone at the quarter position that can give us 497 or 500 yards passing and at least have us.

I'm sure Chason Higgins would like that.

Huh?

I say, I'm sure Chason Higgins would like that.

Somebody's going to throw the ball.

Yeah, for sure.

if we're going to have a chance, if you say our defense is bad, if we're going to have a chance, we got to throw the kitchen sink.

Oh, well, we can salvage in this season.

We're just two and three now.

We just two and three.

You never know.

You never know what happened.

If I'm not mistaken,

we're second in division.

Yeah.

Yeah, we second in division.

Now we have time.

But I don't think, given the circumstances in this division, I don't think there's only one team going out of division.

Now, it might be a situation where you get three teams out of the AFC West, The Broncos, the Chargers, and the Chiefs.

So, would you, are you just, are you?

But think about it, Ocho.

You got to look at the AFC South.

Jacksonville lost one game.

Indy lost one game.

You saw the Texans win today.

Yeah.

Wait, who the Texans beat today?

Man, the Texans beat.

There you go.

You're trying to be slick.

You tried to sleep that with Indy.

You thought you were slick, Ocho.

Who the Texans beat today?

Huh?

You know who they beat today.

today i gotgomer scored a touchdown in the same game for the 14th time right eyeing an nfl record

hey can i tell you something huh you noticed you can i tell you something you notice the first time the lions beat the bangles since 1992

it won't be the last time because i they i ain't never i ain't never lost to him

Y'all probably didn't know play the Lions.

We played the Lions twice.

Drake Black was on me.

Dre Black was was on me.

That was my boy.

And my and my boy, when we played him here in Cincinnati, boy, remember Louis Delmas?

Yeah.

Yeah.

Hey, hey, that, boy, that boy knew he could hit, boy.

He know he could hit, but we ain't never lost to them.

But again, salute to all the Lions fans.

I know it's a lot of y'all in the chat that are watching tonight.

I salute you.

Y'all won the game.

If I met you,

it's all love.

It's all love.

And I'm going to get down to Detroit.

I promise him I'll come down to Detroit and sit in the stands at Ford Field and watch a game.

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Jay Daniels played for the first time in two weeks through for 231 yards.

And he would

have been a 27-10 win over the Chargers.

With 39 yards rushing today, Daniels became the first player in NFL history with

4,000 or more pass yards and 1,000 or more rush yards in his first 20 games.

Justin Herbert was under the rest, sacked four times, took nine quarterback hits, pressured 12 times before being replaced by Trey Lance.

Herbert averaged 3.3 yards per pass attempt and threw his only interception when pressured by the commanders.

Man, they got after, Mocho.

Yeah, hey, they got at them good.

They got after them real good.

And this is, this is the definition of when I always say any given Sunday, anything that happened, as good as the Chargers have looked since the beginning of this season, today,

they ain't look like themselves.

Not at all.

Not at all.

And you expect if you're a Batman, if you're a Batman, Jaden Daniels is first came coming back.

He's coming off an injury.

So, hey, if I'm a Batman, I'm betting with the Chargers to win this one.

In LA, too, at that, I'm going to spoil Jaden Daniels coming back to LA playing at home.

And it absolutely did not happen.

It did not happen.

Jaden Daniels, 15 of 26, 231, one touchdowns.

They ran the ball extremely well.

28 rushes, 163 yards.

Debo got in on the action, eight for 96 and a touchdown.

Luke McCaffrey had a tremendous 50-yard catch to set him up for a touchdown.

Keenan Allen became the fastest player in NFL history to collect a thousand catches.

It took him 159 games.

Damn.

Well, hey, they've been dishing, boy, that ball, man.

A thousand?

Huh?

A thousand?

He got a thousand in 159 games.

That's crazy.

Yeah.

How many catches you got, huh?

815.

A thousand.

i went thousand oh that's now that's wow now it's gonna be routine now people gonna think if you don't have a thousand catches now it's gonna people gonna think you were the bum if you were receiving you have to that people have to also understand that the game has changed the game yes and that's why i say if you don't have a thousand catches now it ain't like when when i came in and you came in

it was extraordinary got like damn a thousand yeah hell i remember when jerry had like a thousand damn

no that's that's and then, you know, so now, I mean, you probably got what, you probably got, how many guys got a thousand catches?

At least 12?

That many?

Maybe more.

Maybe more.

Right.

Like Chris Carter, Tim Brown, T.O.,

Jerry.

15.

Well, Hines has a thousand.

Yeah, Heinz Ward's got a thousand.

You got tight ends.

You got Kelsey.

You got

Gonzo.

gonzo, right?

I think Claude Smith got a thousand.

Gonzo

got a thousand fits, Gerald has a thousand.

Hey, man, them, but them boy was getting that rock, boy.

Hey, well, how many?

How many I got?

D.

Hop has 989, he'll get a thousand this year.

Jesus Christ, Devontae got 979.

What I got, what I got, I need to come back and play.

You got 766.

That's it.

Hey, I was sorry as hell.

God damn.

I think when I retired, I was in the top 10.

It dropped down now.

Jared Rice leads the way, 1,549.

Lad Fitzgerald, 1,432.

Tony Gonzalez, 1325.

Jason Witten, 1228.

Marvin Harrison, Harrison, 1102, Chris Carter, 1101, Tim Brown, 1094, T.O., 1,078, Anquan, 1,076,

Reggie Wayne, 1,070, Andre Johnson, 1,062, Steve Smith, 1,031, Isaac Bruce, 1,024, Travis Kelsey, 1,019,

Heinz Ward has a thousand

and Keenan Allen just a thousand.

So what year

what year is this for Keenan?

You're 11, 12?

You're 13.

Boy,

boy.

But I'm wheeling and dealing, boy.

I'm 39th, Ocho.

That's dope.

That's dope.

That's dope.

And what, well, I left in the top 10, so I ain't in the top 10 no more.

Hey, listen.

The Raiders were handed a 46, 40-6 drubbing

by the Colts and Lucas Oil.

Jonathan Taylor ran for three touchdowns and a two-point conversion.

Indiana Jones, Daniel Indiana Jones threw for two touchdowns while playing another turnover-free game.

And the Indianapolis Colts remained perfect at home.

The Raiders are one and four.

Worst start to Pete Carroll head coaching career.

I'm processing it poorly to tell you the truth because I didn't expect, I did expect to win right out of the shoots.

Well, I mean,

I mean,

are you supposed to say something like that as a head coach?

Is that supposed to be a reason?

Yeah, I mean, I think, I mean, ask, ask Sean McDermott, did he think he was going to win?

Hella coach, they're going to win.

But how are you going to win when your quarterback have three turnovers?

I mean,

Gino didn't play good today.

He had two, excuse me, he had two turnovers, two picks, bad.

Indiana Jones, 20 to 29, 212, two touchdowns.

Relieved by Anthony Richardson.

Jonathan Taylor, 17 carries, 66 yards, three touchdowns.

I mean,

the Raiders aren't good enough to overcome the mistakes that Geno.

No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

They're not good enough.

Not at all.

There's maybe one, two,

maybe three teams that are good enough to overcome multiple.

Multiple.

Kansas City Chiefs are one of them.

The Bills are another one.

And maybe Lamar Jackson when their team is at full health, at full strength.

But

we saw the Bills not able to overcome turnover tonight.

It all depends on who you play in.

You playing a good team.

You ain't overcoming no turnovers.

Absolutely not.

Absolutely not.

And now...

What happens is when you turn the ball over, one of two things happen.

You either bring the team up to your level or you take go down to their level, yeah, one or the other.

Yeah, oh, you know what?

Let me throw the lions in that conversation as well, yeah.

And so, uh,

but the lions, I think, Indiana is getting everything that looks, it's five games into the season, yeah, but I don't think the season could have gone any better

other than the untimely passing of their owner, uh, Jim Ursa.

Right, I don't think the season could have gone any better for this ball club, Ocho.

I mean, Daniel Jones is giving them everything that they could have hoped for and more.

So

they only had to throw it 29 times,

which is not a lot,

25 rushes.

So

I think the season has gone unbelievably well

for the

Indianapolis Colts.

Daniel Jones,

listen, as much as I said about him,

I got to take all that back.

I got to take anything, anything negative I said about Daniel Jones.

Maybe, maybe it is the Giants, and you don't want to say maybe it is the Giants because, goddamn, Jackson Dart, even though they lost today,

he cutting up.

He's cutting up.

So, in the easiest.

Well, let's get to that game now.

You mentioned that.

The Saints get their first win over mistake-prone Giants.

Giants rookie Jackson Dart passed for two touchdowns 202 yards and two touchdowns, but turned the ball over three times.

Even Scat Pack had a turnover.

They had five total turnovers and they lost three fumbles.

Darius Slate lost a fumble.

Jackson Dart lost a fumble, and Scatpack lost a fumble.

Five turnovers.

Spencer Rattler, 21 of 31, 225 on a touchdown.

Shaheed had four catches for a buck 14 on the touchdown, including an 87-yarder.

Joe, the Giants were in cruise control.

And then they started turning the ball over.

They turned the ball over like four consecutive possessions, and this is what you get.

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oh no no no he can run for real yeah yeah he can go now yeah he can scat he can go

yeah that was that was a good thing

they get on the side

uh and i know jackson dart wanted to you know he wanted to play well but and he thought he was playing well and then he just started turning the ball over and uh that fumble really hurt them.

Scat pack fumble the ball.

Yeah.

And the guy runs it back 87 yards for the touchdown, and they never look back after that.

The Carolina Panthers

overcame.

Ooh,

you ought to be ashamed of yourself, Ocho.

Oh, we talked about this game already.

No, we didn't talk about it.

Carolina Panthers overcame a 17-point first half deficit to beat your Miami Dolphins 27 to 24.

We need a little help, huh?

Two of 256, three touchdowns.

Clean game, but Jalen Waddle had six for a buck 10.

Darren Waller had five for 78 and a touchdown.

Devontae Chan had six for 30 and a touchdown.

Bryce Young, 19 of 30, 198, two touchdowns.

But it was Rico Didell.

Didal.

23 carries, 206.

He's the third Panther to go over 200 yards rushing.

32 rushes, 239 yards.

They play, if I'm not mistaken, they play the Cowboys next week, right?

Doesn't Carolina play the Cowboys next week?

Already?

Yeah, he said, I'm going to get it.

I'll say, I want all that.

He want all that.

So,

my dolphins,

my dolphins, we're going to be all right.

Huh?

Dolphins are going to be all right.

No, y'all not.

I don't know why you keep saying that, but y'all not going to be all right.

Can I tell you something?

Yeah.

The dolphins are in a better position than the Ravens.

You know that, right?

Uh,

yeah, but the thing is, is that I just hoping you understand.

What you mean, better position

a better position going forward, one about to get eaten by a crocodile, the other about getting beat eaten by a shark.

You think so?

Yeah, you say you sound real confident.

I mean, the Broncos.

ocho

dylan gabriel had a solid rookie debut despite the browns losing dylan gabriel was 19 of 33 190 yards two touchdowns matching joe flacco touchdown throws on the season with the defeat browns quarterbacks are 0-17 in their first start since 1995 the longest such streak since 1950 when quarterback starts were first recorded.

Ocho, after watching him start early, after watching his first start, what do you think about Gabriel?

What you like?

Dylan Gabriel looked good, huh?

He looked really good.

And Stefansky, Stefansky called one hell of a game, a very balanced game.

The run the pass was damn near equivalent.

Dylan Gabriel processing, dropping back.

Going.

Marid, read one, read two, read three.

Okay, it's not there.

Boom, I'm dumping it off to the flat.

Everything he did in today's game was extremely clean, extremely keen.

Defense played well.

They didn't get the win, but what I saw from Dylan Gabriel, and it pains me to say this as a Bengals fan, is he look effing phenomenal.

He looked great.

He looked poor.

They really have something good to build off of when it goes, when it comes to the film room, based on whoever they playing next week.

He's going to be going to be going to be fine.

He's going to be fine, especially with the way he played and knowing Brian Flores and that defense and knowing how he can dial up that pressure and try to rattle a young quarterback.

He wasn't rattling at all.

He handled everything extremely well.

He did.

I thought he played well.

And like you said, considering that what he was, who he was facing as the DC and the kind of exotic looks that Minnesota can throw at you and the kind of pressure they can generate,

I thought he played really well.

They did a great job of getting the ball out of his hand.

Knew they were going to try to put pressure on him, try to disguise it.

Judging Judgins

ran the ball extremely well, 23 carries, a buck 10.

So they ran the ball well enough so you just couldn't pin your ears back and fly, try to get the quarterback.

I like what I saw.

I really like what I saw.

Look, Carson Wentz played well.

This is why you get a veteran like Carson Wentz, a guy that can hold the ship steady until your captain comes back.

He caught a Ward getting sneaky.

You see him run a three-step face.

He run a three-step goal route on cover two.

And see what they ran.

You see what they ran?

They ran what the defense call it a yogi, what we call it a stick.

Yeah.

And Ward was looking inside and saw the stick.

And he saw what you call a pull up.

He didn't realize he would throw the whole shot right behind him.

That was a heck of a throw.

Addison did a great job of staying wide because that safety is coming.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Great job of staying wide.

Let him pin a pin yourself to the sideline because if you get too far inside,

it'll be a kill shot.

Great throw by Wentz, great route by Addison.

But I like Gabriel.

I like what I saw.

Look, it's one game.

But I thought, considering on the road and

overseas in London, Brian Flores can do a lot of different things and he can fuse a lot of quarterbacks.

But

I thought Cleveland did a great job putting Dylan Gabriel in a situation where he could have success.

They didn't get the win, but if I'm Cleveland, I'm like, okay, I think we might have something.

Without the win, I'm feeling good about that.

I'm feeling good about that.

Defensively, they're going to always handle their business.

Offensively, that's always been the struggles.

What offense are we going to get?

Now, get this offense that we saw today, where there was a heavy dose of run, there was a heavy dose of pass, and he made all the right decisions with the ball and didn't put the ball in harm's way.

We can live with that.

Well, excuse me, not we.

They can live with that.

Yeah.

He looked good.

He looked really good today.

And it's reported,

i guess addison was benched because i don't know i mean they talked about i mean because i read in the paper that he played really well considering that he was benched now i don't know the backdrop of the story i don't know if he did something while he was over there in london maybe missed bed check maybe he was late to practice late to a meeting or something but it was reported that he was go ahead i think it might be a continuous a continuous on the suspension and them actually still having punishment for him as well

why

you you never know You never know.

Because if I'm not mistaken, I might not be wrong.

I think he said out what the first quarter.

I think he said out the first quarter or something like that.

Yeah.

And I think he might have had to sit out the first quarter of the last game as well.

I could be wrong.

I could be wrong.

I'm not sure.

But when he did, when he was benched because he wanted to explore London and missed the walkthrough.

For real?

That is what is being reported.

Mojo, ain't nobody.

This ain't college.

He came off suspension.

He was suspended for three games by the NFL.

He played well.

Why would I suspend him again?

That hurts me.

Yeah.

Hey, hey, would you say he wanted what?

He wanted to explore London.

Hey, you can't do that, man.

You can't do that, man.

You can't do that.

Bro.

The last thing I would want to do is be alone, considering what happened to the Pittsburgh Steelers quarterback.

The last thing I want to be in a foreign country as an American.

I don't know if they noticed it, but we're not thought of too high in other parts of the world.

I'm just throwing that out there, Ocho.

Yeah.

We're not.

We got to understand over in London, there's a lot of us over there.

A lot of them.

A lot of them.

So he.

We're not thought of very highly

in other parts of the country, be it London, be it Ireland, be it anywhere.

You are an American.

Americans right are not very hot thought of in a very high regard.

Okay.

I understand.

And there's a, and they probably said, look, security, we have security here.

Just make sure X, Y, and Z.

Right.

Right.

Hey, that's his.

Hey, he wanted to do it.

He did what he wanted to do, Ocho.

Yeah, you're right.

You can't do that.

Hey, but one thing

game of the day, though, Ocho,

Tampa Bay Buccaneers and and the Seattle Seahawks.

Yeah, that was.

Boy, boy, boy, what a game.

That was a good one.

Baker Mayfield and Sam Darnell.

Baker Mayfield, 29 of 33, 379, two touchdowns, no interceptions.

Yeah.

Sam Darnell, 28 of 34, 341, four touchdowns, but it was that last turnover.

He throwed it, looked like he had a first, looked like it was going to be a touchdown.

It hits the guy helmet.

Levante,

if you want, if you want to play well, NFL,

look at everybody that's came and talked to Ocho and I.

Darren Waller have another touchdown.

Yeah,

Levante David had a big-time pick.

Go back, look at the guy that's talking to Henley, been balling.

Hey, everybody having success, huh?

Rashawn Gary,

who

Gary,

oh, yeah, yeah, Rashawn Gary, yeah, yeah, Rashawn Gary, yes,

he got damn they got five sacks.

Yes.

We only in week five.

Yes.

This was an unbelievable game.

38-35.

Tampa, they scored 15 points.

They scored 10 points in the second quarter, 15 points in the third quarter, 10 points in the fourth quarter, but it was the game-winning kick.

They win 38-35.

And it seems like Tampa is always involved in games like this, Ocho.

Remember, at the Atlanta game, I mean,

all all their games have basically they won have been three points or less hold on we got to talk about a mecha abuka huh

rookie ibuka oh yeah oh oh oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah abuka was crazy jackson smith and jigba like hey it's the battle of ohio state who better uh ibuka the mecha ibuka seven catches a buck 63 one tub jackson smith and jigba JSN, eight catches, a buck 32, another tud.

One had nine targets, eight catches.

The other had a seven for seven.

A mecha Abuka was seven targets, seven receptions, a buck 63.

I mean, these quarterbacks were throwing the ball.

I'm like, bro.

Yeah, they're letting it rip.

Did anybody bring their defense?

That's all I want to know.

Did anybody bring the defense?

Or is it optional?

I don't know, but I know one thing.

These young receivers, I know we all talk about the same top five.

And after the season ends, if JSN and Ibuka keep up with what they're doing,

we're going to have to have a conversation.

They definitely tried to crack that top 10.

Listen, man, we're trying to get in the top five.

What you talking about?

We're going to have to have a conversation.

Absolutely.

And we're going to have to have a conversation about Baker Mayfield being in the MVP discussion while you're bulljoving.

Absolutely.

Absolutely.

Now, when it comes to the MVP discussion, also, we're going to need for Baker Mayfield, no Tampa Bay Buccaneers to have those wins, that win college.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

He has to keep He definitely could be in that conversation.

Oh, yeah.

You know, I know right now that Josh Allen was the favorite heading into tonight.

Justin Herbert was up there, but he lost.

Mahome Boy, always going to be in the discussion.

Dak is throwing the football.

Like you said, but at the end of the day, it's going to come down to wins and losses.

Yeah, you can have stats.

It's a stat-based awards, but they want those stats to go towards winning.

Yeah.

And so when you look at it, it's.

If it was just based on stats, hell, Burrow would have won the goddamn MVP last year.

If it was stats, because we didn't have the W's.

Levante David intercepted Sam Darno with less than a minute left, setting up Chase McLaughlin's 39-yard field goal to earn a 38-35 walk-off victory.

The Buccaneers became the first team in NFL history with four wins in their first five games of a season in which they were either tied or were trailing in the final minute of regulation seattle

i mean seattle played well man i was like well damn seattle y'all got it like this yeah

and then baker's like

i mean baker had four incompletions yeah that's that's crazy four sam darno had six

it's so the ball hit the so they threw 67 times and the ball hit the dirt 10 times ocho that's it you know i don't think do you know how insane let me take that back it hit the ball nine times because one of them was intercepted you understand how difficult that is

yeah hell yeah it is for for for two quarterbacks first round picks baker manfield baker menfield cleveland sam donald new york and all of a sudden you get to the right situation and all of a sudden you flourish sam darno was third in that draft baker mayfield was fourth my bad my bad bad and get and uh zach wilson was second yeah and then sam dono was third it's amazing what happens when you when you when you go to the right situation huh?

Situations matter.

For sure.

Absolutely.

It absolutely does matter.

But this was a very, very entertaining game.

Oh, Cho.

I don't know.

They don't learn, but I'm going to keep letting them do it so they can learn the hard way.

Because see, that's what life has a way of teaching us until we learn the lesson that it's trying to teach us.

Right, right, right.

And, you know, guys still won't learn.

They want to drop the ball.

They want to be all guy had a 70-yard touchdown.

Cost them the game.

Yeah.

Cost them the game.

Was that the Cardinals, right?

No?

Yes.

Yes.

Arizona Cardinals just suffered perhaps the worst wildest loss in NFL history.

They were up 21 to 6 in the fourth quarter.

Fumble crossing the goal line.

That was going to put them up 28 to 6.

The fumble and an interception for a touchdown.

Because think this, Ocho.

They got caused a fumble.

He fumble, kicked the ball into the end zone.

They jump on it, get a touchdown.

So now it's 21-12 in less than five minutes.

Kyle, after the game, I really don't know what to think about that.

I don't even know how.

That's how to lose a game one-on-one.

I don't know.

It was crazy.

It was.

Arizona gave up a 21-3 lead to the worst team in football, became the first franchise since 1970, the NFL-AFL merger, to lose three straight games on game-winning field goals.

But all you got to do is look at

Dimericado.

Bro, yes, you cost him the game.

Basically, I don't know.

So the ball was just so heavy, you couldn't take it another two feet, huh?

The ball was just so heavy, oh Joe, he just had to drop it.

Oh, Joe, you know, you're bringing groceries in and you truck, because I ain't trying to make with one trip.

I'm trying to get all the bags I possibly can.

If I got 10 bags, I got five and five.

If I got 15, I got eight and seven.

Right.

And you know, sometimes, oh, you get it, you like, say, whoo, you got to rest.

so the ball was that heavy that he just had to sit it down before he got into the end zone why is it happening so much

because deshaun jackson you started his foolishness

well he jacked started his foolishness yeah well technically i started it

oh yeah yeah yeah yeah college i started it yeah in college but i i left the ref behind so far he didn't even see it

Yeah, you did.

You did throw the ball back.

Yeah.

I don't get it, Ocho.

and we've ocho and we've seen it so many times it just happened last year

it just happened last year we just talked about

several times

but

yeah oh ocho remember the colts the receiver oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah oh that just last week yes amar amari di miardo 72 yard touchdowns dropped the ball at the goal line

mitchell did the same thing against the rams last week Ocho, how many times?

At what point in time

they need to start?

You know what?

And somebody, the players are so good, you just can't cut them.

But, bro, why y'all keep doing this?

Y'all, you make Sports Center for all the wrong reasons.

Yeah.

Damn, that's messed up.

That's messed up.

49ers beat the Rams in overtime, Ocho, by the score of 26-23.

49ers improved to 4-1, take over sole possession of first place in the NFC West, while the Rams fall to 3-2 at the goal line.

Three down, three down, three points, and about to score.

Tyron Williams, he fumbled.

Great punch out by the 49ers.

They get the ball, stuffed up, because it looked like the 49ers were going to potentially win the thing in regulation.

49ers hold them out of the end zone there.

And then on fourth down, Ocho, when the Rubber really needed to meet the road, because it seems to me me they were going to go for it

i don't think they were going to play for the tie like we got sunday night between the packers and the cow uh packers and the cowboys it seems like sean but sean mcvay was hell-bent he wanted to win this game oncho he really he wasn't playing for no tie and he went for it um

the question i have for you do you like sean mcve going for it on fourth down or does he kick the field goal and give the 49ers because the next score wins the ball game yeah i i kind of like I like him trying to go for it.

I want to get this game over with.

We've had some mistakes.

We've had some drops.

We've had some penalties.

We fought back to get back into the game, and I really want to end it right now.

I want to end it.

So I have no problem with him going forward on fourth and one, trying to end that game.

Listen, it can go one of two ways.

Either you get it or you don't.

You didn't get it.

The fact that he even had...

the balls and the gall to even go for it in that situation says a lot.

And he's one of the few coaches in the NFL who can go for it and take that chance like a Dan Campbell.

You know, he's one of the few can do it.

I loved it also, Ocho.

I'm not playing for a tie.

I'm down there.

I'm in a great position.

And look, you had an opportunity.

You're right there at the goal line.

You get a punch out.

And now you're down again.

And guess what, Ocho?

If I take the field goal,

it's 23-20.

Next score wins the ball, wins the game.

And the 49ers are getting the ball back.

Now, you can say, well, they might fumble it.

Nah, I'm not taking that chance.

I'm down there.

I believe in my offensive line.

But look, Robert Sala, guess right.

He sold out on that side and they stuffed him.

I mean, it wasn't even close, Ocho.

I mean, they ain't even, I mean, as soon as it happened, bam, bam, guess what?

49ers start spilling out on the field.

They know it.

I mean, the Rams ain't no, I would, hey, let's get a measurement.

The officials already like it's over.

Going the other way.

Hey, these quarterbacks were dealing tonight, Ocho.

Matt Jones, 33 of 49, 342, two touchdowns, no interceptions.

Matthew Stafford, 30 of 47, 389, three touchdowns, no interceptions.

I mean, it really was a clean game with the exception of that one fumble by Kyron Williams.

That probably is no way to know, but it didn't help them.

No.

I tell you what, we can't say it cost them the game, Mocho, but it damn sure did not help them win the game.

And the 49ers have to feel good.

Losing a game like they lost on Sunday on a short week.

You're down, Purdy.

you're down all these guys bosa is not coming back look at all the guys that they had injured tonight and to have guys step up and rise to the occasion and play as well as they did on a very very short week look I understand Ocho it's not like they had to go cross country look California but still you get a short day uh a day less to work because you have to travel.

But I thought the 49ers,

given the totality of the situation that they're in, I thought they played extremely well tonight, Ocho.

And I think Kyle Shanahan should be very, very proud of his ball club because they did play well tonight and they found a way to get a win against a division opponent.

Yeah, not only should Kyle Shanahan be proud of his ball club, he needs to take a bow himself with the play calling, some of the stuff he did, with all the injuries that you just talked about that have mounted up.

No Ricky Purcell, no Brandon Ayuk, no George Kittle.

Um, from all Jawan Jennings is out, Jawan Jennings is out, and the

Bosa is not coming back, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, but from an offensive standpoint, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Brother Kendrick Bourne, brother Kendrick Bourne, I know you're going to see this

career night, oh Joe.

So, salute on a career night.

Obviously, you had some drops last game to have a short week and come back and rebound.

And for one, for Mac Jones to be able to have the confidence to keep getting and feeding you the ball.

And another thing, I want to talk about the quarterback situation.

Tonight's game is a perfect example of the definition of next man up.

When you look at a game like tonight and see what mac jones is doing having a resurgence in his career which is why i also think where quarterback go situation matters we saw mac jones do it tonight we see daniel jones do it in indianapolis we've seen baker me baker mayfield do it over there in um goddamn in tampa bay sam donnell going from minnesota to Seattle and still doing it now.

I think where quarterbacks go and what they have surrounding them, including those calling the plays, is so important to a quarterback success.

The most.

Yeah, and that, dude, they look really good.

This is a really, really good game.

The Rams didn't really help themselves either with some of the drops, some of the mistakes, some of the fumbles.

But hey, this was probably one of the better, one of the better Thursday night games we've gotten so far.

The quarterbacks were dealing.

Ocho, look, you know, I'm not big on hyperbole.

And I said this at the time.

Yes, sir.

I thought the 49ers should have drafted Mac Jones because it's hard for me to, I really can't, I really can't differentiate between the two right are you trying to tell me that you believe if Kyle if Mac Jones had been in this system for the entirety of his career because we saw what he did when he had Josh Josh uh Josh McDaniels yeah you saw what he did year one yeah and you're putting team to the playoffs uh was a pro bowl player are you telling me If he has Kyle Shanahan for four years, he's not as good, if not better, than Brock Purdy?

And guess what?

I get why they didn't, because because when you look, when you look at a guy, nothing jumps off at you.

He doesn't have Lamar Jackson's speed.

He doesn't have Josh Allen's height.

He doesn't have Patrick Mahomes' arm.

So why would we take a quarterback that really, Ocho, is just...

He's average with the third pick in the draft.

But what you wouldn't have had to do is give up all the draft compensation.

So imagine as well as they do drafting, what you can put around it.

And guess what?

Even if he doesn't pan out, Ocho, you go back and you get you another quarterback or you could go back and get you another quarterback

and still guess what you don't have to spend damn near 300 million dollars yeah me personally i believe i believe matt jones in this system with i i i'm not talking about in this system with kyle shanahan with all think about all the pieces that he had ocho oh yeah when he has kittle when he has debo when he has iu when he has jennings when he had christian mccaffrey and he got Trent Williams

playing Trent, not this guy that's beat up.

He's trying to work himself back in the conditioning and in his form,

it's hard for me to believe that Mac Jones is not as good,

if not better than Purdy.

And for me, I would have taken him,

but I understand why they didn't, because the measurables, when you look at him, Ocho, you're like, That is not the third pick in the draft.

And you draft took a guy with the third pick in the draft because of the measurables.

but it was the seventh round draft pick that really saved kyle shanahan and john lynch's job yeah because you give up that kind of compensation ojo and that guy doesn't work out and he didn't work out right you're gone yeah what you think you think what you think do you think do you think mac jones purdy similar purdy is better substantially better a little bit marginally better what you think

it's hard to really decipher between the two on who's better or not because when brock purdy is in there he's a rhythm and timing quarterback as well when mac jones is in there he's a rhythm and timing quarterback well both suit the system very well really not dual threat not dual threat quarterback hell no they know dual threat they are your your typical system west coast type officer quarterbacks that are dropped back sometimes in a shotgun and they deliver everything off of timing and they make they make great throws and they're accurate They're accurate enough.

What they lack in being able to

escape the pocket or use their legs running, they make up for in other areas.

And I think they both.

Wait, Ocho, go ahead and finish your thought.

No, I was just going to say they both play well doing exactly what's asked of them in that specific system.

When

you're not that big as far as physical size, Ocho, 6'4,

you don't have a rocket arm, you don't have Lamar Jackson mobility or Michael Vicks' mobility, you have to have great anticipatory skills.

Yes.

Look at Joe Montana.

Joe was not overwhelming.

Didn't have the big time arm.

He wasn't the greatest athlete, but his anticipation skills were tremendous.

Brock Purdy, great anticipatory skills.

Mac Jones, great anticipatory skills, because you got to be, because you don't have the ball to wait.

You've got to get the ball out.

You have to anticipate where the guy's going to be.

And like, you know what?

Have the trust.

I trust the system.

I trust the guy that I'm throwing to that he's going to be where he's supposed to be.

I understand the defense.

I know where I'm vulnerable.

I know where guys guys are going to disperse to.

I can let this ball go.

That's just me.

You can't convince me that Brock Purdy is substantially better than Mac Jones.

I refuse to believe that.

And I believe in the same circumstances, if I had Mac Jones with Kyle Shanahan, I believe whatever fate the 49ers had gone through over the last four years, that same fate would have happened to them with Mac Jones, don't you?

Yeah, absolutely.

Absolutely.

Because

what we saw, the small sample of Mac Jones right now,

since Purdy's been out, it's been the exact same.

The offense has been efficient.

The offense up and down the field, they put up points, and it showed the night to where

next man up.

That's why I said to start the show off, is this was the definition of next man up and not missing the beat.

Now, I wish other teams were able to do what we're seeing tonight from the 49ers.

Hell, like, hell, we got the goddamn Detroit Lions here in Cincinnati at Paycor Stadium.

When When Joe Burrow goes down, I wish we still had the same type of success they had tonight, where you don't miss a beat just because your quarterback goes down.

But unfortunately, it's a little different.

It's a little different from

your guy ain't that good.

And I tried to tell you that.

And

you got the Bengals fan, your Bengal, you got them all hype.

I trust Jake.

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Slow down.

Slow down.

There are other

elements.

I don't want you to talk about no other team.

As a matter of fact, why are you talking?

I don't want you to say foot

or ball.

You got another week.

You can still got, let's see, Friday, Saturday, Sunday.

Oh, and if you don't win on Sunday, it's another week.

You know what?

I got a question for you.

What?

You understand how the football guards work.

You know, when it comes to the game of football in the NFL, it's week to week.

Well, this ain't going to be y'all week.

This ain't going to be y'all week.

What happens if, just, I'm just hypothetically speaking, chat, those in the chat, hypothetically speaking what happened if the bangles shocked the world and beat the lions

if a dog had a square butt he pooped blocks but it's round so we know how it will come out don't we don't we know what come out of what you're i'm just saying i could be optimistic i could be optimistic now i'm not saying we're gonna win i'm just saying hypothetically speaking if the football of the football gods decide to shock the world i'm just saying nah He busy that day.

He ain't gonna be watching.

I promise you, God ain't no Bengal fan.

He ain't watching watching that game, he ain't watching that mascara at Paycor Stadium.

Now, hey, listen, I don't know about mascara, but we're gonna put up a fight.

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

If the fate is the same, what does it matter?

I mean, listen,

I got to have some type of, I think we're going to be all right.

I believe in us.

That's all that matters.

There's a reason I'm in town.

I done had that pep talk with them boys.

I think we're going to be all right.

Mac Jones, after the game, was asked after the game about playing Hobbble.

He replied, I'm good.

I just can't show it.

That's on me.

I'll be fine.

That's what happens when you don't practice for a couple of weeks.

So that's my fault.

You know, look,

it's hard for quarterbacks.

There are other positions, Ocho

that can miss practice and you can't tell when they get into a game.

Right.

It's hard for a quarterback.

That's why a lot of quarterbacks like to wear their pads, Ocho.

Hey, they tell us to take our pants off.

We can't wait.

we can't wait to leave them mofos in the locker quarterbacks stay with them quarterbacks like to throw with their pants because guess what they're gonna throw with their pads they're gonna have so they want the same feel they want the same rhythm as if they're throwing right with pads because that's how they're gonna throw in the game yeah and so uh uh mag's like you know what his fighting senses probably wasn't tingling look at the next four games ocho week six at bucks then week seven at home, home to the Falcons.

Week eight at Texans.

Week nine at the Giants.

So it's not like they got an easy schedule coming up.

Now, I don't know how long Brock Purdy is going to be out, but they look, they got 10 days, so that's a long time for Purdy.

He was out this week, Ocho.

So he gets, he got an extra, you know, he basically got two weeks because he hadn't, you know, probably done anything since Sunday's game.

Mac Jones, he gets 10 days because they're off until you know, they don't play Sunday, obviously.

They play a week from Sunday.

So they get ample time to get some of the guys, some of these guys that's banged up, Ocho.

Right.

They get an opportunity to get them back healthy.

Uh, you see, Mac Jones fit.

We got that, uh, we got that, uh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that red, that red with a little burgundy in there.

Yeah, let's see, what, let's see his fit.

Can we pull that video?

He was clean now.

Hey, listen, that's a man that came for business now.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Hey, that's a man.

Hey, that's that's two-face.

That's a man be hanging around brothers

hey he clean that's that's a man that came from i like that i like that i like that matt as clean as he looked that's exactly how he played he played his ass off tonight played exactly like that he scared me a little bit when he went down and i see oh yeah yeah yeah but

what yeah no look how he grabbed his knee brace ojo yeah i thought it was pinching him a little bit yes yes

when you get tackled the goddamn knee brace start pinching you so when they're pulling this calf i like what?

It must be

either the knee brace is pinching him or he cramping one or the other.

Yeah.

And

the little calves he got,

that wouldn't even hurt nothing.

Because he got, first of all, he got a knee brace on.

So that calf is not as strong as what it needs to be because he wears that knee brace, Ocho.

You know what I'm saying?

You got to build strength back up in that calf in order for it to.

But

he played his tail off.

I mean, both quarterbacks played well.

Don't get me wrong.

Both quarterbacks played well.

My concerns with the the 49ers, Ocho, without both in the game, they really couldn't generate no pressure.

Pressure, yeah, they really couldn't generate any pressure.

And the last thing you want a guy like Matthew Stafford to have is time.

Yeah, and because he was dealing, man, he was

gonna throw that.

Oh, Joe, can he throw it or what?

I'm like, take that back.

I want to play with Matthew Stafford.

We keep talking about Shadow.

If you can come back and play, and we keep talking about Mahomes and Burrow and Herbert and Allen and this one, man, give me more for Matt Stafford.

Why y'all out there bumping bumping him?

You talk about, you got to think now.

Matthew Stafford is a legitimate gunslinger.

It's only about four, four, maybe four quarterbacks in the league right now that have the kind of ball Matt Stafford throws with that kind of velocity and can make any throw on the field.

Any throw.

Even though Aaron Rodgers is old, he's one of them.

Matt Stafford is another.

I'm trying to think, gunslinger, gunslinger.

You see, the difference,

when I think of gunslingers, I think guys that'll take unnecessary risks.

that's really not what aaron rogers is now aaron rodgers can make every throw matthew stafford can make every throw right change arm angles both guys can change arm angles but sometimes if you look at the interceptions for matthew stafford you look at the interception for aaron rogers and you'll see a vast difference because rogers was really never willing to take unnecessary risk matthew stafford he believed he could throw a football through a keyhole

He damn sure.

I just go get a football through a keyhole.

Let me show you.

And he would try it.

Now, he's gotten better.

Now, can you imagine what he would have been had he had Sean McVay his whole career?

But he can throw it, Ocho.

I mean, he can flat spend the ball.

And now, I expect him when I watch the game, I want to see one time where he look over here and throw the ball over there.

Wait a minute.

He did that against.

He did that again.

He didn't do it tonight.

He didn't do it tonight.

He didn't do it tonight.

I remember he did it against the Bengals in the Super Bowl.

Yeah.

Oh, he did it.

He did it.

He did it two weeks in in a row he cut and he's running down the fields because he's mic'd up don't look at my eyes don't look at my eyes right don't effing look at my eyes right

but hey but this was this

I think when the NFL envisioned, look,

they tried to make these game

divisional matchups.

So they're really close.

Nobody's having to go a great distance.

You don't want somebody on the West Coast having to go east.

Right, right.

East Coast having to go west.

Let it be close proximity.

It's already tough enough playing.

I can just imagine because I didn't really start to feel good until Friday.

So I can imagine playing a game on Sunday, then turning around, playing a damn another game on Thursday.

And especially as you got older, Ocho, it took longer and longer to get that old man up out there.

They needed to recover.

Yeah, but

this was an

unbelievable ballgame.

Thank you, NFL.

Thank you, Rams.

Thank you, 49ers, because you guys played your ass off on a very, very short week.

This is the type type of games that we want to see on a Thursday.

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