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Speaker 2 Oh, Joe, there's been a lot made about Travis Hunter getting baptized before the game on Sunday. Travis was asked why he decided.
Here was his response. Let's take a listen to his response.

Speaker 2 Did you get baptized this morning? Yes. Why did you do that?

Speaker 2 It's a crazy question. Why did I get baptized? This is why you choose to go to the church this morning.

Speaker 2 Sunday, it's God's day. And I've been planning to get baptized for a minute.
You know, I want to change my life forward and become a better man.

Speaker 2 What does it mean to you? It means a lot. You know, becoming a better man.
I'm leaving my old flesh and just becoming a new Travis.

Speaker 10 I like that. I like that, huh?

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 10 I saw one of your old colleagues and saying that

Speaker 10 he got baptized on a Sunday before a game.

Speaker 2 Because he was mentally checked out and he opted to get baptized the morning of the game.

Speaker 10 He wasn't focused. I mean, what are we talking about? Listen, you're able to play this game.
You understand?

Speaker 10 God always comes first.

Speaker 10 Not football. God always comes first.
Understanding why you even had the privilege to make it this far in life.

Speaker 10 Getting baptized before a game ain't a bad thing. Like Travis said, he did it on a Sunday.
And what is Sunday reserved for? My grandma told me Sunday is always the Lord's Day.

Speaker 2 It's a day of rest.

Speaker 10 I'm getting ready to go out here and go to war.

Speaker 10 I'm a changed man. I want to leave that old flesh alone and I'm going to get baptized.

Speaker 2 Now the fact that Travis it got baptized hell unc i need to go get baptized again too because the last one wearing off yeah i look i i i think that here's the thing i i don't think she meant to like why did you do it because we understand why people go through baptism i think she wanted to say why did you pick today to get baptized the day of the game you know what i'm saying don't you i think That's what she wanted to say, but it didn't come out quite the way she wanted it to.

Speaker 2 Because we know why people get baptized. Because you go down

Speaker 2 the old person, you come up a new person yes all the all the things that that did in the past that he's like i want to be a better i want to be a better man i want to be a better father i want to be a better son all that all the things that that i was done

Speaker 2 that old flesh i come up as a new person yes sir so i i i i i i and i'm like I don't think she meant it. Like, why did you do it?

Speaker 2 Because I think people understand the reason why a person gets baptized.

Speaker 2 I think she's looking at like on Sunday, you know, you couldn't get baptized on monday tuesday wednesday thursday friday saturday you you pick the day of the game and i i think that's what that's what she really wanted to say um

Speaker 10 but it's kind of hard because when you start tinkering with people's religion and asking them why they do this or why they prayed or why they did that right people are going to kind of kind of look at you kind of look at a little funny yeah most definitely i i don't i don't see anything wrong with it obviously doing it in the morning you know and and going into a game fresh new uh after getting baptized it ain't ain't nothing wrong with that ain't nothing wrong with that at all i commit i commend brother hunter newly married and and i think it's i think it's a great thing it's a great thing now what i what i will say is i wish they had used him a little bit more

Speaker 2 i just want to throw that out there i think they're a little bit more i mean he did it that's what you know he chose to get baptized on a sunday would i would have done it no but there are a lot of things that i've done in the past other people wouldn't have done there are a lot of things that people done in the past that i wouldn't have done so to each his own, hey, I don't think

Speaker 2 that's the reason they won or lose a game that

Speaker 2 Travis Hunter got baptized. That's not the reason why they lost the game.
People are like, well, he ain't focused.

Speaker 10 I mean, man, come on now. Hey, speaking of baptism,

Speaker 10 you know, I could go?

Speaker 2 You in Miami.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I need you there.
I need the whole team. I need everybody there when I get baptized.
Man, in the chat, that might be something we need to live stream.

Speaker 2 Man, look here. That water might start boiling.
I get up in the walking bag. Hey, what you want me there, Ocho? I'm just saying, Ocho, you don't want me there just yet, Ocho.
Let me get the 26.

Speaker 2 You know, and I'll go get baptized with you.

Speaker 2 We might have to go to the promised land or something. We might have to go to Jerusalem.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Hey, matter of fact, hey, let's do that.
We can take a little trip, just a little trip all the way to Jerusalem and get baptized.

Speaker 10 Where Jesus was at? Whatever's that? In Jerusalem?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he was born in Jerusalem.

Speaker 10 Hey, how far is that flight?

Speaker 2 It's a minute.

Speaker 10 All right, listen, listen.

Speaker 10 We come back.

Speaker 2 So it's in Israel, right?

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 10 Yeah, well, we need to go over there and get baptized.

Speaker 2 I think we better hold off on going to Israel right now, Ocho. Let's just hold off.
Okay. You know, they got some things going on over there.

Speaker 10 Okay, okay.

Speaker 2 So we're going to wait a little while.

Speaker 10 I'm going to get baptized here, man. I'm going to get baptized here.
And the chat,

Speaker 10 I'm going to need y'all to come on with me.

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 they say the Jordan River Jordan

Speaker 10 okay yeah hey yeah we got we get baptized joy that's over there by the Red Sea ain't it

Speaker 2 I don't know I think we better we go you know what I said Ocho we gonna keep it private because you know we don't want people protesting our baptism

Speaker 2 people people play too much Ocho they don't they don't they don't want us you know saying they don't want us to

Speaker 10 right but i i think it's a good thing because if if travis doing he wants to be a a new man and and and leave that old flesh i think we can leave that old flesh behind too and become better men

Speaker 10 yeah yeah i mean listen i i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm gonna try not to backslide but that i'm saying ocho yeah i'm willing to do it Yeah, because

Speaker 2 you got to leave it over there because you know, if you don't, if you don't leave that old flesh down, you got to pick it up when you step out. So I'm trying to leave it over there, Ocho.

Speaker 2 So yeah, that's tough. I told you, two years, Ocho.
I'm gonna get married, Ocho. I'm getting married in two years now.
Wait, you, we, we, okay, well, we gonna get married in two years.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah. Wait, two is too long now.

Speaker 10 Two is too long. Because this is what you need to understand.

Speaker 2 Okay, 16.

Speaker 2 What you can do now? What you wait for?

Speaker 2 I'm going to get married on my birth. I'm going to get married on my birthday.

Speaker 10 Oh, okay. Okay.
Let me make sure I'm free.

Speaker 2 I'm standing there with my beautiful, my beautiful bride, looking at her eyes.

Speaker 10 Wait, hold hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 10 Now, when you say you get married in two years, that means you have to already have someone in place or in play for that said marriage.

Speaker 10 Oh, okay, you ready? You ready? You ready? You ready? Well, shoot, I'm yeah, shoot. I'm getting married too.
Then, fuck that. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna be married.
Yeah, long as I had that white horse.

Speaker 10 That white horse.

Speaker 11 What a batchup we got, y'all.

Speaker 14 Non-stop action.

Speaker 15 The band is rocking and the crowd.

Speaker 12 Lick. Chants echo.

Speaker 13 Drum beating.

Speaker 14 Everybody showing that school pride.

Speaker 17 Game like this?

Speaker 18 Yeah, it calls for an ice-cold Coca-Cola.

Speaker 14 Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

Speaker 2 Mmm, yeah.

Speaker 12 That taste always hits the right note, just like a band at halftime.

Speaker 13 And just like that, we're back at it.

Speaker 19 Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an ice-cold Coca-Cola?

Speaker 12 That's a winning combo.

Speaker 11 No matter the sport, no matter the yard, everybody knows.

Speaker 2 Fan work is thirsty work.

Speaker 12 So grab a Coca-Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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Speaker 2 Liam Cohen said that they're making it a priority to design and call more plays in which Travis is the number one option to take advantage of his speed and athleticism.

Speaker 2 Scheming him open is a part of it.

Speaker 2 Number one, our job as an offensive staff is to make sure we're putting him in progress in the progression and putting him in position to be the number one option a little bit more often in some ways.

Speaker 2 Trevor Lawrence echoed that sentiment, saying he's able to do a lot for us. And obviously, there's a lot on his plate as far as what we can do for our team.
He's a great corner. He's a great receiver.

Speaker 2 But I think trying to find the right way to use him is something that we're always looking to do every week.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I just said it. You picked him with the number two pick, huh? Yes.
You picked him with the number two pick. So

Speaker 10 his usage should reflect that said pick, and they don't use him enough. Now, obviously, you want to bring him along, you know, a little slow and add more to his plate as you go, but

Speaker 10 it's not nowhere near where it should be going into week six and week seven.

Speaker 10 He's too talented on both sides of the ball where you can't find ways. You don't have to scheme Travis Hunter open.

Speaker 10 You don't have to, I I mean, you can at times, but his athletic ability, offensively, he can do damage. He can.
You can put him in the right position to do what you want.

Speaker 2 Well, I think when they say scheme him open, O Cho, I say put him in the scheme where he's the first option. Oh, okay.
Because normally Brian Thomas Jr. is the first option.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 So now we're going to, we're going to, you know, A,

Speaker 2 B. Thomas is still our guy, but sometimes we're going to flip it.
Because, you know, sometimes, okay,

Speaker 2 you know, Chase is the number one option.

Speaker 2 But sometimes Higgins, that touchdown pass that he hit higgins with yeah that was higgins with the number one option with the first option absolutely so sometimes you know instead of always having him two or three put him one say trev

Speaker 2 that's your first option

Speaker 2 and and see where we go you know hey stack him look he's not polished yet as far as route running so hey stack him you could do it but but he but his athleticism will allow him to make plays that a lot of other receivers that are a lot more polished won't be able to make.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But give him an opportunity, put him in a situation where he can succeed because he hits,

Speaker 2 and that way you'll keep him engaged.

Speaker 2 You keep him engaged because you're like, man,

Speaker 2 all I'm doing is getting cardio out here today. Yeah, you can't, you can't throw a guy, a guy that's used to having the ball in his hands like

Speaker 2 he was at college. Oh, you can't give him two to three targets a game and say that's good.

Speaker 10 No, it's not.

Speaker 10 Not when he can make the plays that he makes. Exactly.

Speaker 10 Yeah. Hey, Trab,

Speaker 10 matter of fact, Trab,

Speaker 10 come on down here with your boy in Miami. You're not too far.
You're right there in Jacksonville, all season. Come on down here, man.
Holler at your boy. We're going to work on the routes.

Speaker 10 I'm going to have you out there looking like me. I'm telling you.

Speaker 10 Man.

Speaker 2 Avan Kamaro suggested today that he would consider retirement if the Saints trade him ahead of the season deadline.

Speaker 2 Mickey Loomis and I talked about the trade rumors and we were looking at each other like little Spider-Man memes. Like, did you say something? Did I say something?

Speaker 2 I don't know where that came from, but I don't want to go anywhere. I've said it countless times.
You know that. I think everybody knows that.
The fan base knows that.

Speaker 2 So, if Mickey comes down here and says that I'm going to go drink a pinnacle out of somewhere else, Kamara's under contract through the 2026 season and set to have an $11 million base satisfaction, $11.5 million base salary next season.

Speaker 2 Three of that is fully guaranteed, and he has an $18.6 million cap hit.

Speaker 10 Hey, Hey,

Speaker 10 anytime anything like that comes out, it always comes from upstairs. Yeah, of course.
It always comes from in-house. And I don't see him retiring when you can contribute somewhere else.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 And I would want to go somewhere where I can. Look, Ocho, he's been there his whole career.
Yeah. He's built up.

Speaker 2 He's good in the community. And, you know,

Speaker 2 they love Alvin down there.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 don't you want a chance to win?

Speaker 2 Yeah. I mean, for me,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I guess, I mean,

Speaker 2 it's, first of all, it's already tough. It's a tough game to play.
Yeah. It gets even tougher when you're losing.
Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 I don't care what the scenery is. I don't care if you're in Miami.
I don't care if you were in L.A.

Speaker 2 When you're losing,

Speaker 2 the weather can't be great enough. Right.
Now, I know they practice on a dome.

Speaker 2 I get all that, Ocho. And I understand New Orleans and the food.
And he's built up a relationship in the community.

Speaker 2 But at the the end of the day, I'm too, I'm too, me, I'm just too competitive. Yeah, most definitely.
I ain't trying, hey, man, I ain't doing all that damn practice and all that meeting.

Speaker 2 The way I train, you see, I mean, he posts videos of how he's training. Yeah.
And to lose, and you mean to tell me you're going to send me someplace that they're winning?

Speaker 2 Because I know you're not going to send him to some. Obviously, it's going to be somebody that feels they can use Alvin Kamara.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 2 So you're not going to send him to a situation that's worse than the situation that he's in.

Speaker 2 And nobody's in a worse situation than you going to trade for it. Right.

Speaker 2 That's,

Speaker 2 I think the thing is, he's like, oh, he tried to put that, oh, I'll retire.

Speaker 2 You ain't even leave that money on the table.

Speaker 10 Absolutely not. Absolutely not.
And

Speaker 10 they're going to send you to a situation that is favorable for you where you can continue to showcase your talents on a team that is winning. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Releasing him before the 2026 season will still incur an $18.2 million dead cap here.

Speaker 2 The Pina Colada statement is like he's trying to spook him away, man. We can't trade for him.
He's going to retire.

Speaker 2 He ain't retiring.

Speaker 10 No.

Speaker 10 Absolutely not.

Speaker 2 Now, you made that

Speaker 2 Derek Carr money.

Speaker 2 You done made $225, $250, quarter bill.

Speaker 10 Then it's okay.

Speaker 11 What a matchup we got, y'all.

Speaker 13 This is that classic HBCU vibe.

Speaker 14 Non-stop action.

Speaker 15 The band is rocking and the crowd.

Speaker 12 Lick.

Speaker 13 Chance echoing, drum beating, everybody showing that school pride.

Speaker 17 Game like this?

Speaker 18 Yeah, it calls for an ice-cold Coca-Cola.

Speaker 14 Ah, crisp and refreshing. That's a game changer right there.

Speaker 2 Mmm, yeah.

Speaker 12 That taste always hits the right note, just like a band at halftime.

Speaker 13 And just like that, we're back at it.

Speaker 19 Passionate fans, school colors everywhere, and an ice-cold Coca-Cola?

Speaker 12 That's a winning combo.

Speaker 11 No matter the sport, no matter the yard, everybody knows.

Speaker 14 Fan work is thirsty work.

Speaker 12 So grab a Coca-Cola and keep that HBCU pride going.

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Speaker 2 Brian Windhorse says Kyrie was LeBron's best and most compatible teammate ever. In my opinion, the best, most compatible teammate LeBron has ever had is Kyrie.

Speaker 2 There were moments where he and Wade were transcendent, and there were moments where he and AD were impossible to deal with.

Speaker 2 But the guy he played with, the best fit, his skill set, was Kyrie, because you need a guy who can handle the ball, and that's also

Speaker 2 awesome off the ball. He's right.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 And Cleveland, boy,

Speaker 10 they were nice.

Speaker 10 They was real nice.

Speaker 10 Very nice.

Speaker 10 They played very well off each other, too.

Speaker 10 But I remember you.

Speaker 2 I was starting to figure it out.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you explained to me. You explained to me as well as they played.
You explained to me that Kyrie needs to go somewhere else where it could be his team. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I don't know why. I don't know why you would leave a great situation like that.

Speaker 2 Because everybody wants to prove they're the guy.

Speaker 2 Why Kobe wanted to be by himself?

Speaker 10 To prove that he was the guy.

Speaker 2 And who was Kyrie's mentor?

Speaker 10 I don't, man.

Speaker 2 I mean, sometimes, Ocho, you just have to. James Harden needed his own team.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 to be a sixth man in OKC with Russ and KD,

Speaker 2 you saw what James Harden became when he got his own team?

Speaker 10 Nasty.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 2 Thank you.

Speaker 2 D-Wade figured out a way to play.

Speaker 2 With LeBron. Yeah.
With LeBron off the ball because D-Wade had the ball and he figured it out. AD was easy to play with because it's natural.
You got a big and you got a little.

Speaker 2 I mean, even though LeBron's not small. Right.
But Kyrie could, hey,

Speaker 2 do you?

Speaker 2 I could put Kyrie, give Kyrie the ball. Kyrie bring the ball up.
Kyrie could dance. Kyrie could shoot the three.
Kyrie had a mid-range. Kyrie could get all the way to the rim.

Speaker 2 The thing was, D-Wade's knees had started to give out on now. He needed to play with D-Wade from the jump.

Speaker 2 Might have been a different story. He and A.D.
was great because AD is a big. LeBron can get in the ball, AD do what he does.

Speaker 2 But Kyrie, his ability to handle the ball, his ability to finish at the rim with either hand. He could shoot the three.
He could mid-range. He had offensively, Kyrie has no weakness.

Speaker 2 But he just felt that, you know, I've done all I can do in Cleveland, and I need my own team.

Speaker 10 What do you think would have happened if they stayed together?

Speaker 2 They'd have won more titles.

Speaker 10 Would it be the same as if Shaq and Kobe stayed together?

Speaker 2 I think Shaq would have needed to drop a few pounds. Shaq had started to let his weight get a little bit away from him.

Speaker 2 I mean, I think Shaq said in 2002, he had got up to over 400 pounds, even though his weight was listed at 325.

Speaker 2 Shaq would have really needed to rededicate himself. But yeah, had he redone that? Yeah, they could have won more.
Yeah, Shaq was still dominant. Yeah.
Shaq was still dominant.

Speaker 2 But at that weight, playing every other night, up and down, you see the toll it started taking on his ankles.

Speaker 2 I don't know if you ever seen Shaq in person. Shaq is a ginormous man.
Because a lot of times you see players and they're thin. Shaq is a big, big, big ass, heavy-bone man.
Yeah, he dude, big.

Speaker 2 So it was, it's easy for him to, you know, for his weight to get out of control. Right.
But if he'd have rededicated himself, he'd say, you know what? I'm going to give myself the next three years.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be in the best shape of my life. At worst case, they win two titles.
I'm not saying they don't, I'm saying that worst case, they win two. They probably go to three with the perm.

Speaker 2 San Antonio was always going to give them a problem because Tim Duncan in that system. Right.

Speaker 2 But I do believe with Kobe being what Kobe was and what he had become and Shaq still being as dominant as he was, even at his size so I take 50 pounds off Shaq ain't nobody dealing with Shaq

Speaker 2 ain't nobody dealing with Shaq

Speaker 2 no hell no

Speaker 2 but uh

Speaker 2 like I said you know you you you won't the same thing do you Brady and Belichick I need I need to see who gets the credit Ocho I need to see I need to see if I'm without you and you without me what Shaq Kobe, I need to see that.

Speaker 2 It should have been a situation. Shaq Kobe should have been like Kareem in Magic.

Speaker 2 But that's not Kobe's personality. Kobe's personality is not Magic's personality.
Magic was perfectly content.

Speaker 2 Get on down there, Cap. I got you.

Speaker 2 You know, Magic tells a story that when in what, 87, when

Speaker 2 Pat Riley told him he needed him to score more, he said, you run that by cap?

Speaker 2 Which means, have you talked to Kareem about wanting me to score more, which means I'm going to shoot more, which means that's going to take more shot opportunities away from him? He's like, yeah.

Speaker 2 He's like, okay.

Speaker 2 Magic went to MVP. Hmm.

Speaker 2 That's not how Kobe was wired. Kobe was wired.
He saw Mike.

Speaker 2 Kobe trained himself. He walked like Mike.

Speaker 2 Everything, you see

Speaker 2 the calf, he had the knee sleeve rolled out of his calf. He had the wristband around his elbow.
Everything except the number.

Speaker 2 And he didn't go ball.

Speaker 2 He cut it lay like, nah. And he had his, that was it.
So he had Mike's mentality. Mike was an assassin.
Mike was a scorer.

Speaker 2 Everybody ain't wired to be, okay, I'm cool with it. As long as we win it, I'm cool.

Speaker 2 Everybody can't handle that, don't you? They can't.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 2 Blitzer Report released their top 100 players in the NBA.

Speaker 2 And here's a countdown.

Speaker 2 Top 15. Jalen Williams, J-Dub,

Speaker 2 is number 15.

Speaker 2 Mobley from the Cavaliers is 14. Kay Cunningham is 13.
AD Anthony Davis is 12. KD is 11.
Jalen Brunson is 10. Spider Mitchell is 9.
LeBron James is 8. Ant is 7.
Wemby is 6.

Speaker 2 Steph is 5.

Speaker 2 Luca is 4. Giannis is 3.
Shay is 2.

Speaker 2 Jokic

Speaker 2 is 1.

Speaker 10 Well, they got that right.

Speaker 10 They got that right. Is there anything based on the list that you just read you would change?

Speaker 10 man,

Speaker 2 it's hard for me to put Wimby that high after one year. I know

Speaker 2 I know he's 7'5 and he's a freak. Oh, Joe, but he's played one year.

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 2 well, he got hurt last year. He, like I said, he played.
Okay, he played one of the he played one year in 20 games.

Speaker 10 So, hold on, hold on. You take you take Wimby out, then who you put there?

Speaker 10 You see how you thinking? That's exactly where they got Wimby in that spot.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 I think I brought, I bumped everybody down one then.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 if you look at the Ocho, everybody else, obviously, look. When you look at the top three, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 We're talking about Jokic, three MVPs, two seconds, a finals MVP, average of triple-double. So what are we talking about? We saw Shea 31, 6, and 5.

Speaker 2 No, Shea averaged 32 points, 33 points. He's averaged like 30 points the last three years, finals MVP, regular season MVP.
Giannis, a two-time MVP,

Speaker 2 a finals MVP, still playing at the top of his game. Luca,

Speaker 2 Luca. Steph.

Speaker 2 The question is, did they leave Tatum off because Tatum's injured?

Speaker 10 Well, then you can't say they left Tatum off because Tatum's injured because Wimby was injured too.

Speaker 2 No, but I'm saying, but he's playing this year. He's playing to start the season.
Okay, okay. There's no guarantee.

Speaker 2 Now, you hear reports that Jason Tatum is like pitching the Celtics that he wants to play this year. Nobody has really played so soon after the Nikili's tear.

Speaker 10 Right.

Speaker 2 We'll see if

Speaker 2 that works out.

Speaker 2 But that's my only thing. Had Wimby played a couple of years, there's no denying.
I mean, he can get your rebounds.

Speaker 2 He can block shots. He's the most feared.
He's the most feared defender probably since Sakeem Elijah won at the big.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 you see guys get it on the fast break and he's back. They're like, nah, we put like, let's reset that thing.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 10 Hey, hold on. Hey, when the season, the season starts next week, don't it?

Speaker 2 Yes,

Speaker 2 the 21st. I think the 21st.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Hey,

Speaker 10 we going, we're going to sit Course out of the liquor game?

Speaker 2 Yeah, if

Speaker 2 you give me my $5,900 so I can get a ticket.

Speaker 10 Nah,

Speaker 10 Miss Buster, give it to me. We good?

Speaker 2 People are ticked off that KD being 11. People also think Wimby's too high.
They think they ranked him on what could be, not what is currently.

Speaker 2 I think I would make the question because people, and I think I saw something today where people was like, do away with the whole list because they got Brunson in front of KD.

Speaker 2 Brunson been balling, man.

Speaker 10 Hey,

Speaker 10 acting a fool.

Speaker 2 He's been balling. I mean, think about it.
You ain't even got Joe Ellen Biet on the list.

Speaker 2 No Kawhi.

Speaker 2 No James Harden.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 2 No Jason Tatum. No

Speaker 2 Jalen Brown.

Speaker 10 No Devin Booker.

Speaker 2 No Book.

Speaker 2 I think what's amazing in year 23, Braun is in the top 10.

Speaker 10 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2 I don't think we'll ever see that again.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 I mean, you got some good players that didn't make the licks. Shangoon.

Speaker 2 Obviously, Dame's not going to play this year. Where would Dame be ranked? I don't think Dane would be in the top 15.

Speaker 10 Also, you have to understand, this list,

Speaker 10 this is the elite of the elite.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the elite of the elite.

Speaker 10 Now, some of the names.

Speaker 2 Oh, Apollo Bancaro.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 10 he's a monster, but is he in the conversation with those that you just named?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 especially cade mobley and jalen williams yeah

Speaker 2 man ben carro man that big body dude he a nice

Speaker 2 nice but listen that that that's a whole that's a that's a whole bunch of tier one players you just called and but that's ocho that's how it's supposed to be it's supposed to be tough if you could just arbitrarily throw out a name but then what are we doing here right you're supposed to be when you're trying to pick between the best of the best it's supposed to be splitting hairs because if it's not well then what's the comparison what what are we doing right

Speaker 2 it it need it needs to be difficult man i don't know man dude hey dude did go to four or made five all nba teams

Speaker 2 yeah but dude did he made he might have been but he made like

Speaker 2 all defensive right

Speaker 10 what about what about zion

Speaker 10 you consider zion

Speaker 2 no zion i can't i can't put no trust in him hopefully he's lost some weight and so hopefully he can keep it going. He can keep the weight down.

Speaker 10 He came back small, man. He's small.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Oh, Joe, you know, the easiest thing to do is to lose weight in the offseason. What happens when you're traveling and you're tired and you get in at 1 o'clock, 2 o'clock in the morning?

Speaker 2 Are you still going to make those healthy choices, same healthy choices?

Speaker 14 Right.

Speaker 2 Are you going to get your cardio in?

Speaker 2 Are you going to hit the weights like you was in the offseason? It's easy. It's easy in the offseason, don't you?

Speaker 2 But for a basketball player, when you're getting in two, three o'clock in the morning,

Speaker 2 hey, man, let me get that. Hey, can I get those wings? Let me get the burger

Speaker 2 fries.

Speaker 2 Are you going to order the chicken breasts? Are you going to order the fish?

Speaker 2 Are you going to get water?

Speaker 2 That's that's that's the difference. Right.

Speaker 2 NBA most valuable franchises valuations was released today. The Warriors are at the top $11.33 billion.
The Lakers are number two at 10 billion. The Knicks 9.8 billion.
The Clippers 6.72 billion.

Speaker 2 The Celtics 6.35 billion. The Nets 6.22.
The Bulls 6.12. The Heat 6.03.

Speaker 2 Sixers 5.61. Rockets 5.53.
And the Mavericks at 524.

Speaker 2 That tells me everything. Hey, Steph Curry.
Steph Curry should play. If Steph Curry wants to play 30 years, they should say, go ahead, Steph.
Yeah. Go ahead and do it.
That's because of Steph Curry.

Speaker 10 Them being valued as much as they are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, hell yeah.

Speaker 2 That's why Steph is going to be able to play as long as he wants to play.

Speaker 10 You

Speaker 10 think he'll stay in golden state the whole time?

Speaker 2 All the time. Yep.

Speaker 2 Yep.

Speaker 2 He's a guy

Speaker 2 like a Magic Johnson, like a Larry Bird, that should be one franchise, guys. Yeah, I mean, me, I would love to, I would love to see Tom, but it's

Speaker 2 Tom stay with one franchise. And I love Peyton.
I would love to see Peyton, but, you know, you see Tom go somewhere else. You see Brady go somewhere else.
You see

Speaker 2 Emmett Smith go somewhere else. You You see Jerry go somewhere else.
You see all a lot of the greats.

Speaker 10 So why do you think Stephen? Joe Montana.

Speaker 2 Huh?

Speaker 10 Why do you think Steph wouldn't go anywhere else?

Speaker 10 Even Michael Jordan played somewhere else.

Speaker 2 Because they broke the team up. Okay.

Speaker 2 Steph don't strike me as a guy that's bullheaded like Mike. Mike wanted to keep this thing together.

Speaker 2 Their job is the

Speaker 2 gruber and what's the other guy's name?

Speaker 2 I forget his name.

Speaker 2 And they do a great job with Steph, of trying to always make sure they got the... Huh? Joe Lacum.
Joe Locum and Peter Brew.

Speaker 2 They do a great job of trying to

Speaker 2 always put Steph in a position to win.

Speaker 2 Jordan didn't feel like Jerry Krauss did that.

Speaker 2 And people get mad at Jerry Krauss and said, but he broke it up. No, Jerry Reinsdorf broke it up.
Jerry Reinsdorf is the owner.

Speaker 2 He could have said, no, I'm keeping this team together. And he said, no, we're going to break it up.

Speaker 2 He said, he said, Jerry Kraus said at the beginning of the year, Phil Jackson could go 82-0, and we're going to have a new coach.

Speaker 2 But who gave him the authority? Who gave him the ability to do that? The owner.

Speaker 2 General managers don't do anything the owners don't allow them to do.

Speaker 10 Right.

Speaker 2 They get paid what they get paid. It's just like Commissioner Goodell.

Speaker 2 Y'all that, oh, Commissioner. No, no, no, no.
The 32 owners.

Speaker 2 Commissioner is the mouthpiece. He takes all those blows.
So Jerry Jones and Mr. Kraft and all those other owners go unscathed.
So he gets all that.

Speaker 2 That's why every time he gets, he goes, so what would it do, Ocho? Boo.

Speaker 2 Every draft. I mean, can you name the draft that he's come out there and they didn't boo him?

Speaker 2 I can't in the last 15 years, Ocho. I can't.
I really can't. You're right.
And so

Speaker 2 I don't see stuff going anywhere else. I really don't.

Speaker 2 I don't.

Speaker 2 All right, Ocho. It's time

Speaker 2 for Rough Draft and Art of October.

Speaker 2 Oh, I was going to.

Speaker 2 I don't hear no sound.

Speaker 2 All right, we're a little rusty.

Speaker 2 See, see?

Speaker 2 In Art autumn, October,

Speaker 2 topic is best scary movies. Oh.
Ocho, you get to go first.

Speaker 10 Um.

Speaker 10 Scary movies.

Speaker 2 Uh.

Speaker 10 Give me Texas Chainsaw Mascara.

Speaker 2 I'm going to take

Speaker 2 Friday the 13th, Jason Voorhees.

Speaker 10 Did I just say what was my first one again?

Speaker 2 Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Damn.

Speaker 10 Give me, give me, give me Halloween.

Speaker 2 Damn, that's where I was going.

Speaker 2 I'm going to take Freddy Krueger, Nightmare on Elm Street.

Speaker 10 Please tell me you saw a Hellraiser.

Speaker 2 I did.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 2 Pinhead.

Speaker 2 I'm gonna go Carrie.

Speaker 10 Oh, that was a good one.

Speaker 10 Give me give me salt.

Speaker 2 Okay, I like that one.

Speaker 2 I ain't the biggest scary movie guy.

Speaker 2 You can tell I ain't been to the movie. I ain't been seeing a scary movie in a long time.

Speaker 2 I guess I don't know Candyman.

Speaker 10 Candyman, that's a good one.

Speaker 10 I wonder if this is oh

Speaker 10 poltergeist.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I go back and forth with this one, but I gotta go. I was gonna say child play.

Speaker 13 Hi, I'm Chucky.

Speaker 2 Andy.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that first one. That first one was.

Speaker 10 Especially when you don't know what to expect.

Speaker 10 I got one more.

Speaker 2 That's it.

Speaker 10 Damn, that was it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Damn, I wanted to go poltergeist.

Speaker 2 You just went poltergeist.

Speaker 10 No, I didn't.

Speaker 10 Oh, Lord of Mercy.

Speaker 10 Oh, my God.

Speaker 10 Oh.

Speaker 2 This movie made the Rockweller famous.

Speaker 2 The Omen.

Speaker 10 Oh, the Omen. That Omen is a good one.
That's a good one.

Speaker 2 That's a good one.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you ever see the movie Christine about that car?

Speaker 10 Christine, nah. Yeah.

Speaker 2 That possessed car.

Speaker 10 Nah, I didn't see that one.

Speaker 10 Damn, I know

Speaker 10 I missed something, but off the top of my head.

Speaker 2 There's a bunch of them.

Speaker 10 Yeah, a lot of them.

Speaker 2 You know what I, you know, the shining with

Speaker 10 Johnny.

Speaker 10 You know what else I wanted to go with?

Speaker 10 Remember the first Blair Witch project?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 The first. What was that one?

Speaker 2 I know what you did last summer. Yeah.

Speaker 10 And it's, what about the first

Speaker 10 paranormal activity? You saw that one?

Speaker 2 Nah. Yeah, I need to go to the, I need to get back into the movie, but I can't.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that first paranormal paranormal activity.

Speaker 2 My attention span is some crap now.

Speaker 2 Bet I'll be watching something on TV. Yeah.
Next thing you know, I don't flip the channel like, damn, I'm supposed to be watching this. I don't flip the channel.

Speaker 2 I don't flip to the news. So, Ocho got Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Halloween, Hellraiser, Saw Poultry, guys.
I got Friday the 13th, Nightmare on Elm Street, Carrie, Candyman, The Omen.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I definitely, I definitely neither one of us got the Exorcist.

Speaker 10 That's another good one.

Speaker 2 That was a great one

Speaker 2 We should uh

Speaker 2 sinners we we huh

Speaker 2 All right guys, we got a vote. We're gonna find out who won.

Speaker 10 I did

Speaker 2 All right, Ocho,

Speaker 2 you got your favorite subject back. Guess what we got? What? Spello Cinco.

Speaker 10 Oh, man, you ain't even tell me. I ain't even been in my thesaurus.

Speaker 2 Nah, man.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 2 Ocho.

Speaker 2 This describes

Speaker 2 close proximity. Someone is in the vicinity.

Speaker 10 Oh, vicinity. V-I-C-I-N-I-T-Y.

Speaker 2 That is correct. Surrounding area or district.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 This one is like you have a mucus buildup in this, you know, it's called called Phlem.

Speaker 2 Phlem.

Speaker 10 Ooh, that's a good one, huh?

Speaker 10 That's a good one. Now, I really want to go F-L-E-M, but for some reason, understanding the English language, I guarantee you it's not spelled like that.

Speaker 2 But how's it spell?

Speaker 10 Man, I don't know.

Speaker 10 It probably started with a goddamn P.

Speaker 10 I mean, listen, I don't know phlegm, so I'm gonna just go with how it sounds. F-L-E-M.

Speaker 2 P-H-I-M-L-E-G-M. I knew him.
I knew it.

Speaker 10 I knew it. I knew it was one of them tricky ass goddamn words.
I knew it.

Speaker 2 How about this one, Ocho? Come on. It's a fictitious name.
So, sometimes when you check into the hotel, you check in on an alias or a pseudonym.

Speaker 2 A pseudonym.

Speaker 2 A what? A fictitious name. A pseudonym.

Speaker 10 Pseudo, pseudonym, pseuda, pseuda, pseuda, sue,

Speaker 10 pseuda, nym.

Speaker 10 S

Speaker 10 pseuda. S-u-d-a-n-y-m.

Speaker 2 P-S-E.

Speaker 2 U-D-O-N-Y-M pseudonym.

Speaker 10 What's the first? What's the first letter you said?

Speaker 2 P.

Speaker 10 You see what it? You see, why? Why?

Speaker 10 That makes absolutely.

Speaker 2 I didn't write the English language, so I just. I just go by what they that's.
How about this, Ocho?

Speaker 2 It's relating to or being, it's a hallucinogenic, uh, producing abnormal psychic effects. Right.
It's called a psychedelic. Mushrooms, shrooms,

Speaker 2 LSD,

Speaker 2 psychedelic.

Speaker 10 Psychedelic.

Speaker 10 Yes.

Speaker 2 You know, when they were back in the 70s, they did a lot of this. They was on, you know, PCP, Angel Dust.

Speaker 2 They was like, hey, just having a good time. Yeah, groovy, man.
Just groovy.

Speaker 7 Psychedelic.

Speaker 27 Delic. Delic delic.

Speaker 10 Psychedelic.

Speaker 10 PS, P-S-Y,

Speaker 10 C-A-D-L-D-E-L-I-C. Psychedelic.

Speaker 2 Close?

Speaker 2 P-S-Y-C-H-E-D-E-L-I-C. Psychedelic.

Speaker 10 The middle, the middle that got me. That was tricky.
That was tricky.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 2 To strike or to grind your teeth together. It's called Nash.

Speaker 10 Nash?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 10 That's easy.

Speaker 10 N-A-S-H.

Speaker 2 G-N-A-S-H.

Speaker 2 Ah, Ojo.

Speaker 2 One for four.

Speaker 2 Like, come on, man. One for five.

Speaker 10 Come on, man.

Speaker 10 Nat, what is it? What's the G for

Speaker 2 to throw you off?

Speaker 10 Come on, man.

Speaker 2 All right.

Speaker 2 All right, Ocho. It's time we're going to do dunk on up.
Okay, we got dunk on Unk, Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 All right, you ready?

Speaker 2 I'm ready.

Speaker 10 Hey, this is Dunk on Unk Football Edition

Speaker 10 Bengals.

Speaker 2 Oh, my goodness. Yeah.

Speaker 10 All right. You ready?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 10 Chat, don't cheat, chat. Please do not put the answers in the chat.

Speaker 10 How many playoff wins do the Bengals have in franchise history?

Speaker 2 Oh, my goodness.

Speaker 2 Let's see.

Speaker 2 They went to the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Let's see.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 Nine

Speaker 10 wrong. The answer is ten.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you was you was there. You was close.

Speaker 2 I thought, oh boy.

Speaker 10 You was close. You ready?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 10 Question number two:

Speaker 10 Ocho, you know, that guy, he was pretty good. Ocho is all time Bengals leading receiver.

Speaker 10 How many yards does he have?

Speaker 2 Eleven thousand.

Speaker 2 11,060.

Speaker 2 Wrong.

Speaker 10 Ocho has 10,783 yards as the all-time Bengals leading yards receiver.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 10 Number three,

Speaker 10 which player, you should remember this, which player has a single game rushing record for the Bengals?

Speaker 2 how many yards and against which opponent yeah this is easy well he did it against the bronze he did it against the broncos i know he did that uh but i wasn't there at the time i was in baltimore so let's let's go ahead and start with that okay okay and

Speaker 2 276

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 10 It was Corey Dillon. We all know 275? No,

Speaker 10 it was against your Broncos. We know that.

Speaker 2 I know it's Broncos.

Speaker 10 It was 278 yards.

Speaker 2 Ah, bang.

Speaker 10 278.

Speaker 10 All right. All right.
All right. We owe for three.
We owe for three.

Speaker 10 You ready?

Speaker 2 Yes.

Speaker 10 The Bengals have drafted first in the NFL draft four times. Yes.
Name the four player drafted.

Speaker 10 Oh, this is. Oh, this is easy.

Speaker 2 Ooh.

Speaker 10 This is easy.

Speaker 2 Joe Burrow, that's one,

Speaker 2 Kajana Carter, that's two

Speaker 2 Dan Wilkinson, uh-huh.

Speaker 10 Defensive guy play defense in.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 Carson Palmer,

Speaker 2 don't mess with Shane, don't mess with me, www.email.com. I'm logged on.

Speaker 10 Oh, oh, now you logged on after going.

Speaker 2 I'm logged on

Speaker 10 after going on three. Now you logged on.

Speaker 2 You see what he tried to do, chat? He tried to throw back somebody with the defensive end.

Speaker 2 You drink Ocho. See, I'll never do you that, Ocho.
I don't try to scare you wrong, Gojo.

Speaker 10 But you steer me wrong with them with them

Speaker 10 words you told me to spell.

Speaker 2 But I don't say, I didn't say, oh,

Speaker 2 it starts with a G.

Speaker 2 I don't do that.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I got

Speaker 10 last one right here.

Speaker 10 What is your all-time record versus my beloved Bengals?

Speaker 2 Ooh.

Speaker 2 We beat him in 91

Speaker 2 beat him in

Speaker 2 97, 98.

Speaker 2 91.

Speaker 2 Six and one?

Speaker 10 Nope, nine and one is the answer you were looking for.

Speaker 2 Nine and one?

Speaker 10 Nine and one is the answer you were looking for. Yes,

Speaker 2 we played him that many times. We played him in 91.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I thought you were logged on.

Speaker 10 Yeah, that old ass dial-up ain't working.

Speaker 2 I played him I played him four times in Baltimore. We beat them three and one.
They beat us the last time we played in 0-2.

Speaker 2 No, excuse me, 0-1.

Speaker 2 So that's 3-1.

Speaker 2 Did we play though?

Speaker 2 Play Pittsburgh? I don't check.

Speaker 2 Are you sure? Yeah.

Speaker 2 Damn. Yeah.
I ain't know we played that many times.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, you went one and four, too. You went one and four, just like me.
Just like me.

Speaker 2 All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one. The last one is Q and A.

Speaker 10 Let's go bangoes.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 2 Do any graphics work tonight?

Speaker 2 Aaron Orris said they better move Ramsey to free safety. He barbecued chicken at the corner.
Who they?

Speaker 2 Yeah, he struggled tonight.

Speaker 2 Catcher Freeman said, Kevin Stefanski, an imposter, not an NFL level head coach. The man's two-times coach of the year.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Juice Man 93 said, get them Flacco Flacco jerseys prepped and ready.

Speaker 2 Jason Zeldorf, hell

Speaker 2 has frozen over. Ocho paid the refs.

Speaker 2 James Coleman said, who knew the geriatric battle would go so hard? Great game. James, you're absolutely right.
This was a great game. If you loved offense.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Seph said, never seen Ramsey be this abused. One of those nights happened to the best of them yeah

Speaker 2 um he struggled in the super bowl too against this very team oh yeah a jt 5 113 and if you go back had aaron donal not got in there clean yeah

Speaker 2 somebody chase had him beat 412.

Speaker 2 flacco showed out tonight uh he absolutely did but you know flacco can have these games like this he can light you up You don't pressure him.

Speaker 2 Red Hood say, we back, Unc. Ravens winning the division.
Again, flock up. We own the Bingles, Ocho.

Speaker 2 Stacks 448 says, Ramsey getting cooked like Chef Gordon tonight.

Speaker 2 It was a rough one for him. It happens.
Cornelius Knight said, Brought my first bottle of Laportier today. It was fire.
Cornelius, I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 Send me the IG store.

Speaker 2 Let me see what you're working with.

Speaker 2 Michael Arias said, Ocho, just pulled your signed mini helmet over an ultimate autographs.

Speaker 2 Hmm.

Speaker 2 When you sign that. Catcher Freeman said, Kevin Stefansky ruined Deshaun Watsons officially.
He's also over, never held a position coach job longer than a year. Now we now see why he's horrible.

Speaker 2 The man was a two-time coach of the year. What do you mean?

Speaker 2 Fans New Jersey said, Walk a flock of flame. He got a whole lot of yardage.
Jamar Chase catching for him. Flak be tossing.
Jamar T be balling. It's a party.
It's a party. It's a party.

Speaker 2 Samuel Grant said, Hey, Ocho, Okinocho, I just want to know how crazy y'all would have went if you had a game with 23 targets. Oh, I'm getting 200.

Speaker 2 Hell, I had 14 targets and got 212. 23 targets?

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm going to get. I'm Ocho.

Speaker 10 I'm going gonna get close to see i think my my most was my most was 11 catches for 260.

Speaker 2 you you so you figure you had at least 14 15 targets yeah

Speaker 2 so that's enough we're gonna tag on another 8-9.

Speaker 10 so what would that be what three something

Speaker 2 probably

Speaker 2 i know i'm going for i hey i'm gonna hey i'm gonna put that record i'm gonna put that record out of there way way way way way way out

Speaker 2 Captain Freeman said, Tomlin's super lame for the mess he pulled on Andrew Berry, too.

Speaker 2 He browsed him. Our season's over.
We don't owe Pittsburgh no loyalty. You're absolutely right.
You got a draft pick.

Speaker 2 And look,

Speaker 2 you want to see what you got with Gabriel. And maybe, hey, he falters.
You see what you got with your door. You knew after this year,

Speaker 2 Joe Flacco wasn't going to be there. So let me get a draft pick for it.

Speaker 2 Marquez Duffy said, Browns would rather see Sincy win the division than the Steelers. That's why Flacco's there.
True.

Speaker 2 But it don't matter. We're not winning, so I don't really care who's winning.
I got a draft pick out of the deal. Dr.
Frank L. Bellamy said, hey, fam,

Speaker 2 take your pick. Fourth quarter comeback or a blowout win.
Love y'all.

Speaker 2 I'd rather get blown out.

Speaker 2 Man, A. Somebody nipping you the last 10, 15 seconds, Ocho.
Man, that thing hurt.

Speaker 10 That hurt, boy.

Speaker 2 That hurt.

Speaker 2 Somebody kick a walk-out field goal. Tim's bid said, Uncle Ocho, I guess we know why Coach Tomlin was mad about that trade with Flacco.
He should be mad about that defense. Absolutely should.

Speaker 2 And he's a defensive guy. Finns, New Jersey, if Rodgers get injured, do the Steelers trade for Flacco?

Speaker 2 We're not trading it.

Speaker 2 Nah, they got Mason Rudolph. And Mike T say they believe in Rudolph.
So, no.

Speaker 2 Sep said Ramsey should apologize publicly.

Speaker 2 Man, y'all, the man had a bad night hey he had a bad night it happens not only did he have a bad night but understand who he's going against he's going well it didn't matter

Speaker 2 i can see i can see chase but everybody else will get into it too

Speaker 2 uh fields new jersey up flacco a vibes since he survived lakers in five

Speaker 2 philly talk with pa says respectfully y'all need to stop with this aj misinformation campaign dude has literally stated multiple times that he doesn't want to be traded.

Speaker 2 Bro was joking and laughing with Coop at practice today. Hurts

Speaker 2 is his daughter's godfather.

Speaker 10 Man, that don't have nothing to do when it comes to business.

Speaker 2 We ain't got no, so let me get. So him saying, him complaining about targets and yards, that's misinformation on us.

Speaker 10 And he said it publicly. I mean, what are we talking about?

Speaker 2 You see what happens, Ocho?

Speaker 2 Players say stuff and then they get mad at the media for us reporting on it.

Speaker 2 Ain't nobody said nothing about Devontae getting traded. Ain't nobody mentioned nothing about Saquon being unhappy.
Ain't nobody mentioned that.

Speaker 2 But okay. Kaleidoscope 1, giving flies to Ocho.
His progression to talk sports while remaining true to himself. He first started nightcap is great to see.
Keep going, Ocho.

Speaker 2 Keep it going, Ocho. True and infomer 73.
If Mike McDaniel is gone this season, would he fit as Eagles' offense new offensive coordinator?

Speaker 10 Yep. Oh, that's a good one.

Speaker 2 Finns, New Jersey. Ocho, how was the food in London?

Speaker 10 The food was it was good. It was good.

Speaker 10 It was good.

Speaker 2 Would you have fish and chips?

Speaker 10 I have fish and chips.

Speaker 10 I found a Jamaican spot. Found a Jamaican spot.

Speaker 10 I went to also a place by the name of Blue.

Speaker 10 Blue Kitchen, which was a blue spot. The blue spot had some really, really good food.
And they had this another place, a wing place place I went to. I can't remember the name of it.

Speaker 10 The wings were really good.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 10 Yeah, they were really good.

Speaker 2 Wolf's Hat Fact says, I'm so glad I was able to see the AARP bowl live. But, Ocho, man, give me some game, bro.
I'm in love with the Bing Gal cheerleader.

Speaker 10 Which one? Which one? I hook you up.

Speaker 2 Don't start me laughing.

Speaker 10 Yeah, tell him which one. I hook you up.

Speaker 2 Don't seem to show on nobody cheerleaders but the Cowboys cheerleaders.

Speaker 2 J.W. Aggregate said, my Steeler secondary was trash but that's okay ocho still can't spell

Speaker 2 uh tino brown said jamar chase can get 23 targets but aj brown can't get 10 solid targets a completely different offense

Speaker 10 thank you different offense

Speaker 2 will victor best youtube live show there is will thank you man thanks for the support Aiden Hill said, congratulations to your bingles.

Speaker 2 Don't get baptized and go to attend NBA Young Boy demonic concert. It will affect your life and your children's life.
Give them tickets away, Ocho. Trust me.
Too late. He already went.
Already went.

Speaker 2 That's why he's getting baptized now. Lamar Mills said you guys were talking about George Pickens could go after Dallas.
How about Carolina? Yep, we mentioned that last night.

Speaker 2 JJ Carver said, Ocho has been getting married since Jim Crow.

Speaker 2 David Montier

Speaker 2 Anyo, yo, can I get a birthday shout out? Turn 24 and listen to Nightcap every morning at work. Legit best

Speaker 2 podcast out there. Dave, happy birthday, bro.

Speaker 2 Hopefully you took off tomorrow so that way you can have fun tomorrow. You know, go out.
I don't know if you got a girlfriend, lady, wife, significant other, whatever the case may be.

Speaker 2 Go out, do something fun. Get you a nice bite to eat, nice bite to eat.

Speaker 2 Go, you know, I don't know if they got a blues plays, go listen to some nice live jazz music or something, and then

Speaker 2 you know.

Speaker 2 Timothy Humphrey, strongest arm in NFL history.

Speaker 2 Strongest. As far as like,

Speaker 2 can throw the ball the farthest, the hardest?

Speaker 2 Strongest sh.

Speaker 2 I mean.

Speaker 2 I wonder how far Michael Vick could throw the ball.

Speaker 10 Man, he flicked that thing.

Speaker 2 I mean, Randall, Randall could throw it probably by 80 yards. Tester Verde could throw it by 80.

Speaker 2 I wonder if Jamarcus Russell, how far he could throw it. There's been some arms.
I mean, they used to have the

Speaker 2 quarterback challenge. Challenge, yeah.
And they throw the ball for distance.

Speaker 2 Michael Allanes says, Uncanocho, if the 49ers lose on national TV on Sunday, is it time for 49ers to consider trading away older core players and start collecting draft picks?

Speaker 2 Who are you going to trade?

Speaker 2 Your best defensive player got hurt. Can't trade him.
Your other best defensive player got hurt also. So Bosa and

Speaker 2 Fred Warner hurt.

Speaker 2 So who are you going to trade?

Speaker 2 Ayuk isn't back. He done erased all the 49 and stuff off his social media pages.
Yeah, they're

Speaker 2 getting on up there in age. So who are you going to trade? Christian McCaffrey? No.

Speaker 10 They ain't letting that go.

Speaker 2 Anthony Castillo.

Speaker 2 Uncle Docho,

Speaker 2 I'll be becoming a father in 2026. What advice do you have for a first-time dad? Love you boys.
And nightcap team. Ocho, what's the advice you give,

Speaker 2 Aunt?

Speaker 10 You know what?

Speaker 10 That's a great question.

Speaker 10 Everything changes. Everything you do now is for your child.

Speaker 10 Every move you make. is predicated towards towards your child.
It's going to change you too. It's going to change you for the better

Speaker 2 absolutely right you think differently you move differently

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 it's a great honor being responsible for something

Speaker 2 a little you

Speaker 2 yep

Speaker 2 fletch uh thank for the side memorabilia fletch you are very very welcome andrea jordan said what bingo uh put a hit on bow to end his career? I think it was Rod Jones, wasn't it?

Speaker 2 I think Rod Jones tackled him and dislocated his hip.

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 y'all can look it up. I know y'all going to look it up.
Y'all want me to be wrong. I think it's Rod Jones.
That was in like 91, 1991. So that was a long, long time ago.

Speaker 2 It's hitting podcast Arkanocho, the GOATs. Thank you, man.
Appreciate the support. We greatly, greatly appreciate all the support, love,

Speaker 2 and support you guys have given us over these two years.

Speaker 2 Thank you guys for joining us for another episode of Nightcap as you watch the Bengals

Speaker 2 move to 3-4, thanks to a 33-31 victory over the Steelers, who were 4-1 at the time. Now they're 4-2.
Joe Flacco was sensational. He had 31 attempts.

Speaker 2 No, he had 31 completions on 47 attempts, 342 yards, 3 touchdowns. Chase Brown, 11 carries, 108 yards.
Jamar Chase had 16 catches, 161 yards, a touchdown. T.
Higgins also added a touchdown.

Speaker 2 Noah Fant added a touchdown. Aaron Rodgers was pretty good himself.
He was 23 of 34, 249, four touchdowns, two interceptions. Jalen Warren, 16 for a buck 27.

Speaker 2 And Pat Fryermuth had five catches for 111 yards and two touchdowns. Y'all know who I am.
I'm your favorite on Shannon Sharp. That is my partner and co-host celebrating of Bingo's victory.

Speaker 2 Liberty City's own Bingo Ring of Fame artery, a former Pro Bowler all-pro. He's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson.
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Speaker 2 You know Debo is going to be upset by the Steelers, especially he's a defensive guy, and his defense gave it up. They gave it up tonight.

Speaker 2 So I'm sure he'll have a lot to say about that. But they'll be live tomorrow at 11 a.m.
That's Debo and Joe. You can also subscribe to their YouTube channel.

Speaker 2 Ocho Bingos beat the Steelers 33-31 in the icy hot bowl, but they had just enough linemen on to make it interesting. 33-31 Bingles over the Steelers.
I'm Unk. He's Ocho.

Speaker 2 We will see you Saturday night after college football. Thank you guys for joining us.
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