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Boy, this was the best Thursday night game thus far. Easily.
It wasn't a whole lot of defense played. If you love offense, Hocho, this was your game.
Absolutely. Seven combined passing touchdowns.

Over 400 yards for both teams. Almost 500 for the Bengal as they win a close ball game 33-31 over division rival Pittsburgh Steelers.
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You all have a lot to say about this game, but Debo is going to crash out because, whoo!

Joe Flacco was 31 to 47, 342, three touchdowns. No sacks.
They ran the ball 23 times for a buck 42. Jamar Chase, 16 catches, a buck 61 and a touchdown.
Higgins, six for 96 96 and a touchdown.

Noah Fount had four for 44 and a touchdown. There wasn't a whole lot of defense being played, but here we go.
Ocho, the Bengals beat the Steelers and 33-31 in what many call the icy hot bowl.

This was not the Unk Bowl. This was the Uncles.
Uncles. No, no, no, no.

They ain't no Uncle. They're Uncles.

That's what Uncle. So, Ocho, watching this game, I mean, look, Steelers jumped out to a 10-0 lead.
Like, damn, Bengals.

and then all of a sudden start of the fourth quarter the bingles have a 10 have a 10 point have

a 10 point lead and then the bingles have a 10 point lead to start the fourth quarter and the next thing you know the steelers go down the field uh rogers hit fryer move he takes off and they have a one-point lead but

If you're a Steelers fan, based on what you had seen up until that point, you could not have felt comfortable with the way your defense was playing.

Every defensive bat from the Steelers, Chase gave it to everybody. He gave it to Ramsay the first half.
He said, you know what? I think Slay and Porter feeling left out.

I'm going to make sure y'all ass get it the second half. So, so don't nobody feel like, oh, he was

pick on somebody of size. I picked on everybody and gave it to everybody.
And T. Higgins said, hold on.
Did they forget about me? Hey, give me that shot down. Give me that real shot.

Let me end this thing. And he did something smart.
He said, nah, I could score. I could split it.
But now, let me go on down because I don't want y'all to get a chance to do nothing crazy.

Because I know Aaron Rodgers is known to throw a Harrow Mary here or there, but you won't get a chance to.

Oh, Joe, watching this game, game, what did you like about what you saw from your Bingles tonight? Well, first off,

we know what Flacco did. We know what Chase did.
We know what Teigen did, but I want to give credit to the offensive line.

I want to give credit to the offensive line. I want to give credit to Zach Taylor, not worrying about all the noise on the outside.
Oh, he needs to be fired. Oh, it's the play calling.

It wasn't none of that. That was never the problem.

Winning games like this against a division opponent, it starts up front. The offensive line played extremely well tonight.
They kept Flacco clean for most of the game.

Obviously, TJ Watt and Hayward got a sack towards the end. I don't want to call it garbage time because it was very important that we were able to get down the field.

But outside of that, they kept Flacco clean all goddamn day.

That goddamn third down, and they ran a goddamn read option with Joe Flacco.

They never expected it. A read option with Joe Flacco? Who does that with a quarterback? That's not a dual threat.

Beautiful play call. That's why it worked because you're not expecting it.

At all.

At all. Beautiful play call.
Obviously, the Steelers, they didn't really play good defense. They had some blown assignments on defense, allowed

Chase to get off

on that shallow cross laying the ball. Ocho.
That man got 15 catches. How the hell you let him get free for 16 on the shallow cross when ain't nobody guarding it? Listen, there was confusion.

There was a confusion at the second level.

Once the motion went, Patrick Queen, they was confused on who was supposed to pick up who. And obviously, Chase freed up out.
Well, I'm picking up Chase.

If somebody else gets the ball, I'm good with that. I can live with that, Ocho.
I'm picking up Chase.

Man, that ain't your guy. Don't worry about it.
He got 15 catches. I'm just trying to make sure he don't get 16.
But listen,

man, it's amazing, right?

It's amazing what happens when you get a quarterback with a veteran presence that's used to wheeling and dealing, and you put him in a situation, you put him in an atmosphere with two elite receivers like that, a good quarterback, a good number three, a nice tight end.

You saw

north fan got integrated into the offense a little bit more tonight yep

it looked great it looked great this is one of the best games and it got so good to the point on i didn't even care who won the game i didn't even care who won the game because it was so exciting on both sides of the on both sides of the ball you know not really much defense but aaron rodgers was dealing he was yo flacco was dealing so one bad play he had one bad play the db made an excellent play on on uh a dk medcal

yeah the interception that's not on Rodgers. Oh, yeah, it definitely wasn't.
That was a good. Hey, TJ Turner, DJ Turner,

he's cornerback number one. He's quarterback number one.
I don't know what happened. I don't know why Cam Taylor Britt

with a healthy scratch tonight. I wasn't sure.
But after watching tonight, how they played, the DBs played, especially DJ Turner, boy, I salute you.

Boy, I scoot you because you showed Joe, you know what tonight, boy. But that goddamn officer line, that officer line needs all the credit for the night, because we already know what Chase could do.

We already know what what T. Higgin could do.
We know what Chase Brown could do. We were able to establish the run.

Before tonight's game, Chase Brown was averaging two yards of carry, huh? Two. Two yards a carry.
He finished what, with 106? I think maybe he had 107. 108 on 11 carries.
Man, that's beautiful.

Anytime you can run the ball like that, it makes everything else you want to do easy. It opens up the playbook.
Man, it was a beautiful thing. And the fact that we, as a team, now we can compete.

Why can we compete? Because we got a quarterback, a quarterback that's only been here for 24 hours.

He's been here for 24 hours. And I heard

some of the stuff.

They gave him, he had 30 plays. They gave him 30 plays last week.
That's all he had on his plate was 30 plays. And obviously, playing in the Green Bay game, it's only so much you could do.

But he looked good in that second half. When I saw that, when I saw that drive in the second half, I'm like, wait a minute.
I think we're going to be all right.

And tonight, I'm sure they added more to his plate, and this is what you get. This is what you get.
So, next week, I'm not sure who we're playing, we're gonna look even better offensively.

Defense, just meet us halfway, meet us halfway. And by the time December gets here,

showing that we can compete, regardless of who we're playing, because the offense is now back because we have a competent quarterback that can make all the throws,

we're gonna be all right.

You got the jets, I'm happy,

Ojo.

Now you understand why Tomlin made those comments. Oh, oh,

now you understand. He says you have a quarterback that was good enough to be your opening day starter.
Yes. You trade him to a team that needs a quarterback.
Yes.

Either Andrew Berry is smarter than either of us. But yeah, most definitely.
Most definitely. And the funny thing about it is Tomlin understood is you take a quarterback like Joe Flacco.

That's been in different situations, different offenses, and you put him in an offense with that kind of talent? Yep. With the kind of talent that can raise your level of play.

Flacco ain't got to do much. He's not on a team where he has to raise his level of play because the lack of talent around him.
It's the opposite way when you come here. They're going to lift him.

Opposite way.

Oh, Joe. The thing is, you say he gave him 30 plays.
He don't need but two plays. If Chase is one-on-one, throw it to him.
If

they got Chase double, throw it to T. Higgins.
It's not really that complicated. And he dropped, he dropped one.
He had a shallow cross against Queen.

And you see, if he saw Sparko's face, oh my God, that was the easiest pass. You played that you made tonight, and you dropped that one.
So, he probably should have 17 or 18.

Yeah, I'm going to start calling Chase Mr. Thursday night because we know what he does on Thursday night.
You know, last year he had 11 for 264. 11 for 264.
Three touchdowns.

Hey, matter of fact, in the first half, this I know, and we talked about it too, where I talked about how Carson and I had

that sense of if we see a certain play, he had check it and changing. Man, watch Blacko and goddamn Chase did that in the first half.

Blacko saw the coverage.

He tapped his helmet, checked out of the run, and they must have knew what it was. He threw it right to Chase.
Threw it right to him. I say, you know,

we're going to be all right. We're going to be all right.

And I have one thing I want to say, too, also. With that.
For all the Bengals fans that are probably watching tonight in the chat, this is why.

This is why, despite some of the things you were saying, is it's not about Zach Taylor. It's not about the play caller.
It's all about those that are on the field executing the plays that are called.

And when you have a quarterback, this is why they're paid the big bucks.

When you have a quarterback, anything is possible. Anything is possible.
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steelers dbs just go ahead and chalk this up don't watch it yeah don't don't watch it don't worry about it don't even worry about it because

he gave it to everybody yeah everybody and it wasn't close it wasn't like there was some some some throws like that he threaded the needle and you guys were right there y'all wasn't close nah y'all wasn't close

and just go ahead and chalk this one up hey hey it happens

But for him,

for Chase, for them, I've never seen somebody hunt the number one DB like they hunted tonight. Yeah, most definitely most definitely you I don't

you're not even with even with with Satan or these top corners You're not supposed to hunt like that. Yeah, well actually I wouldn't even call it hunting.

I would say most of the time during our time you during our time huh when you had a great DB most of the time the quarterback for some reason they would never go his way. No hell

you don't even challenge them. No.
For some reason. And I'm telling you, based on experience, is when we're playing against top corners, you know, the offense, it goes away from that individual and

it almost makes you upset. It almost makes you upset.
But tonight, boy, Flacco didn't care. He didn't care.
He did not care. He did not care.
I mean, he gave it to it. Look, Ram

had an off night.

Slay, they put Slay on him.

Slay, you take him in the second half. Slay couldn't do anything with him.

Junior, Joey Porter Jr., you have to learn how to play better without his hands.

He's too touchy-feely.

He get a lot of PIs. A lot of calls, yeah.
Yeah, you're going to get a lot of PIs. And you're going to have to learn to do a better job.
Locate the ball, let the guy go.

He got two PIs. He got one on T.
Higgins. He got one on Chase.

And he's looking like, man, what, bro?

You can't tug the guy's jersey because the back judge is standing right there. He can see it.
And you're doing it in the middle of the field. Yeah, you can see all of that.

As a defensive back, obviously, you know, playing against a T.

Higgins, playing against a Jamar Chase, some of the stuff that you're able to get away with because of your skill set with lesser caliber receivers, it'll work.

But when you play against your elite receivers,

your whole game plan have to change. Your whole game plan in

the way you play them, it has to change.

It just has to.

The thing is, Ocho, like when you play a great receiver, what you normally would get away with with a lesser receiver, like not holding that clutching and grabbing, they're going to call it.

Every time.

Because normally,

Chase is probably already gone to the officials. Now, you know, they can't guard me one-on-one, right?

So they're going to pay a little extra attention.

He's so good in space. You can put him outside the numbers.
You can put him in the slot. You can put him in motion.
He's tremendous. Run after the catch.
He's not that big, but

he runs behind his pads.

So when you run behind your pads, you've got to tackle him he's not gonna go down with arm tackles or he's not afraid of contact so he'll run through contact

he reminds you he runs a lot because his style his side that he's not as big as my brother but he runs like my brother he runs like anquan bowden he runs like too now they were bigger receivers to is a much bigger receiver you know but if you see how they run they run like when they get the ball oh it's almost like they're running back Matter of fact, you know what?

You know who's a great comparison of Jamar Chase when he has the ball in his hands? As far as running behind his pass, that damn Steve Smith who refused to go down. Yeah.

The exact same way, exact same. They're very strong.
And because he has that running back pedigree that he played when he was younger,

they so good with running out the catch.

Same with Steve Smith.

They played angry with the ball. They ran angry with the ball.

And

that was a hell of a game.

That was a hell of a game.

It was a great game. Really good game.
Both teams have to look.

The the defenses neither defense came to play uh outside of that outside oh oh joe outside of that one sack i didn't even know i thought tj watt was hurt yeah oh wait obviously he had listen mim did a hell of a job

yeah he had help noah fan with the chips chase brown with some of the chips no before they went out before they went out in in into pass coverage so they did help him a little bit but in that fourth quarter where tj watt and hayward were able to get that sack on flacco it was one-on-one it was one-on-one so that that's why he did he had he had help but outside of that, they kept Flacco clean all goddamn game, man.

But you allowed to make other plays other than sacks.

He had a tackle. Yeah.

His imprint has got to be on this game.

You know, if you, first of all, a non-mobile quarterback, if you don't disrupt this timing, he'll pick you apart. That's the same thing will happen with cousins.

If you don't put pressure on cousins, what will happen? We've seen him throw for 400. We've seen him throw for 500 yards.

If you don't disrupt a mobile,

a statue, a prototypical drop back quarterback, and that's what Flacco is. He's a prototypical 80s, 70s, old school drop back quarterback, Ocho.

He wants to drop back.

When his back foot hit, he's going to let it go. He wants to let it go.
He's not a guy that wants to try to buy time and wait for guys to get open. That's not what he's good at.

He's a guy. One, two, three, ball's gone.
One, two, three, four, five, ball's gone. Now, most guys don't do a seven-step drop because most guys are in the shotgun.
So

they'll take a three and a hitch and throw the ball. Or a five and a hitch and throw the ball.
But

I'm not surprised that Cincinnati's defense played like this because I don't think Cincinnati's defense is very good, especially since their best pass rusher Hendrickson was out tonight.

That being said, Steelers, I thought the Steelers were better than this.

I think they have the second most sacks coming into the game. I think they were 10 behind the Broncos.
The Broncos had 30. I think the Steelers had 20.

They got two sacks, and outside of those sacks, Flacco really didn't get pressure. If you don't get pressure on a drop back quarterback with those weapons at his disposable, at his disposal,

what do you think is going to happen?

I just want to know, what do you think is going to happen?

You got the best receiver in the game, and you got a guy that if you don't disrupt him, he can pick you apart.

Well, that's what happened. And then to exacerbate it, Ocho, you couldn't stop the run.
So now you're at their mercy.

You can't stop the run. They run it at will.
I mean, Jalen Warren had what Jalen Warren had, excuse me, Chris Brown, 11 carries for a buck weight.

P. Ryan had seven for 31.

If you can't stop it, and Flacco had 31 of 47, 342, three tubs, no turnovers.

That was the difference in the ballgame. I thought the Steelers look, I thought the Steelers might be going to give a death blow.
They had it fourth and one, Ocho.

They jumped outside, trying to do the tush-push. They got the...
Hey, it's funny how y'all see the Steelers move, but y'all never see the damn Eagles move.

Set a four-field goal. Next thing you know, they come down the field, they get a touchdown, and now they've gotten life.

Ocho, you look at Ocho, what did you make of Aaron Rodgers going off on Jalen Warren, who ran a flea flicker by accident? Lip readers think Aaron Rodgers shouted at him. What are you doing?

It wasn't a flea flicker. Yeah.
Hey,

he has to do that. He has to hold the players accountable

what you what you lost your your ear thing yeah i say listen i hey aaron has to hold the players accountable

aaron rodges understands that every play counts i you he he has a standard that he that he has to abide by he understands everything has to be right because we're in a close game we need every play every play has to count you can't make that mistake You can't.

You can't. And I'm not saying that mistake cost him the game, but that's a play that they would have needed.
I said Chris Brown, I meant Chase Brown. Chase Brown.
Oh, Joe. Here's the thing: Ocho.

When you're in a game like this, every play matters because, okay, our defense is not customary tonight.

They're not getting off the field. They're not getting three and outs.
They're driving the ball. They're getting points on these possessions.
So every play becomes magnified.

And so you can't have a mishap like that. I'm trying to figure out what made him think it was a flea flicker.

Now, I don't, that's, that's seemingly what it, that's what, you know, lip readers think he was uttering. Right.
But I'm like, of all the things you could run,

I've heard people okay, I run the wrong route, Ocho. I ran, I went the wrong way, right? But damn, a flea flicker when no flea flicker was called.

God,

and listen, a little miscommunication, it happens the same way on defense. Both teams had

busts in the defensive coverages. The Bengals had one.
Hell, the Steelers had one. And just,

listen, those plays make a difference. And it's only one, two, maybe three plays in an entire game that change the trajectory of the play.
And the team that makes the fewest mistakes normally wins.

And it just happened to be yesternight.

True.

Who they? Who they think they're going to. You guys, like I said, offensively, you guys are going to be able to put pressure on people.
If you jump out to a lead, now you can play.

Like I said, I don't think your back end is very good, Ocho.

Whoa, they made some big time plays. They made plays tonight.
Yeah, the guy made a heck of a play. The one he took out of DK hand.
Yeah, his name is DJ Turner.

Say it with me. DJ Turner.
DJ Turner. Yeah.
Yeah.

That being said,

if you go look at the first interception, it was like, I don't know if Roger was trying to throw the seven route

and he overshot the seven route or he missed the

DK on the go route. Yeah.
Because it was like in between, you know what I'm saying? Like the seven ran the angle and DK, but the ball was inside. So I don't know maybe

the ball got away from Aaron,

but this was like offensive. If you like offensive football, Locho, this was your game tonight.
Beautiful game tonight. This was your game tonight.
I mean, seven combined touchdowns,

almost 600 yards of passing yards.

Only two sacks, but the two turnovers, like I said, one of them, Rodgers, it was a bad throw. The other one, you know, the guy made a heck of a play.

Aaron Rodgers passed Big Ben Rothensberger for sixth most passing yards in NFL history. Is this just regular season or is this regular season and postseason?

Okay.

Tom Brady is at the top at 89,214.

Drew Breeds is next, 80,358. Peyton Manning is third, 71,940.
Brett Favre is fourth, 71,838. And Aaron Rodgers now is fifth all-time with 64,089 yards with

11, what, yeah, 11 games to play. Damn.

So there's a good chance that he's going to probably go,

could he get

67,000? That's a possibility. Could he throw for three? I don't know if he's going to throw for like that because, I mean, he's 23 or 34 for 249.

So I think he'd probably be right there because I think he'd be a little about probably 66,500, 66,750, something like that.

How much longer does he want to play? Look, he's not catching Tom. He's not going to play long enough to catch Tom.
He would have to play

another

five years. Yeah.

You know, he's not retiring no time soon. He's in a perfect situation.
He's in a perfect situation. And I'm not sure.

what would happen this year with him but there's no reason why you would want to leave you're in the perfect situation. Joe Flacco, I mean, Joe Flacco, Aaron Rodgers is in the perfect situation.

He is.

It's a great situation.

You got a head coach that doesn't get in your way.

I think he likes Arthur Smith. Arthur Smith is going to run the football.
He's going to give you a lot of different formation.

He likes a lot of two tight end stuff with Fryer Mooth and John New Smith, who he had John New Smith when he was in Tennessee. He did a great job as the OC for the Tennessee Titans.

You know, you have DK. They might be in the market for another receiver.
Austin was out tonight, Ocho.

So they might be in the market for another receiver.

You know, we keep hearing rumbling that our receivers might be available. We'll see that November 4th deadline.
Hey, can I say something real quick? Yeah.

And listen, I'm not trying to bolster that that's still his offense.

But if anything continues to happen or things don't go well with number 11 over there in

Philly,

well you definitely would want to get him out of the nfc i'm not saying they're going to trade him hey but you definitely you definitely it ain't gonna be no situation where you're gonna trade him and you you try to get him out of the conference you definitely not trade him to anybody in the division and of all things i'm gonna try to get him out of the conference now if somebody in the conference blows me away oh cho ain't got no choice right right right you know i don't i don't want to sell you look it's like my neighbor ocho i don't want to sell you the car because i don't want to come by and see my damn car every day in your driveway even though it's your car you bought it but if you make me an offer i can't refuse right i'll drive right by it every day yeah but i i don't think they'll do that but i'm i'm just saying making their offense better

aaron rogers dk metcalf aj brown i'm just throwing it out there i'm just throwing that out there because they've already been talking about trades and

where there's smoke there's fire For sure. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

So the fact that it was even mentioned, if things don't turn around for the Philadelphia Eagles, even though they are winning,

I think that's something that could happen. Yeah.

Ocho, I'm going to tell you something else I think could happen. I think Matthew Stafford is okay.
You got Tom Brady at one, Breeze at two, Manning at three, Favre at four, Rogers is nine at five.

Big Ben is at six, Phillip Rivers is at seven, Matt Ryan is at eight, Matthew Stafford is at nine. Dan retired.

When he left, he had all the records: most passing yards, most attempts, most touchdowns. Matthew Stafford could be six by the end of the year.
He's at 61,439. Big Ben has 64,088.

I think there's a great chance when it's all said that he.

What year is this for Matt Ryan?

Matt Ryan? I mean, not Matt Ryan, Matt Stafford, Matthew Stafford.

I don't think he can catch Brady, but I definitely think he can get the top. I think he can get the top

17. Year 17.
I can see him playing another three years. The money is too good for him not to.

And not only is the money too good for him, and he's healthy. He's in a great system.
You got Sean McVay, you got Puka, you got Devontae, you got Higby, Kyrie Williams can run the football. And

they throw the ball like crazy over there, too. Yeah, throw the ball like crazy over there, especially with Puka and Devontae, the way they're playing right now.
He can definitely get it.

And he's not, he's not.

I definitely think he's at 61,000.

I think

he's going to have to stay healthy, play another three years, but I definitely think he can get in the top five. Yeah, absolutely.

I definitely think he can get in the top five because he's going to be 64,000 by the end of the year, which will put him in sixth place.

Now, I don't think he's going to throw for enough yards to pass Rodgers because Rogers is at 64,000. So I'm going to put tack on another 2,500 to 2,800 for Rodgers, which will put him at 66,000.
Yeah.

So he's not going to catch him this year. But when it's all said and done, could I see him getting top five? Yes.

Yeah. Yeah.
Hey, hey hey um

i'm so happy inside i like i want to jump i can tell you happy listen i i don't want to talk too loud i don't want to scream too loud i'm trying to keep it you know my voice a little low because i'm in the hotel obviously i don't want to you know have security knocking on my door but we have a great chance we have a great chance offensively now defense we don't need to be top five i say this all the time please find a way to meet us halfway Find a way to meet us halfway.

Be maybe 16 or 15 or rank 17, somewhere around there, and allow the offense to cook. Allow us to put up points.
We score 30 tonight.

If we can get back where we're going, 30 points a game and defense, you just show up. Just give us something.
Give us a stop here or a stop there. We will be okay.

On the broadcast tonight, Ocho, they said Joe Burrow is on track to return from Turft Toe in mid-December. The question is: Can Flacco keep the Bengals afloat until he returns?

Okay, they get the Jets at home. They get the Bears at home.
Then they're at the Steelers, Patriots at home. At Ravens, at Bills, Ravens home, at Dolphins.

Hey,

we could run the gauntlet. We could run the gauntlet.

The only game where it's going to be really good, I really can't tell you who's going to win when we play the Patriots. But the Patriots are nice, huh? Yeah.
The Patriots are nice.

They're not shit. The Bills will be tough for you guys

in Buffalo. They'll be tough.
Josh Allen. Yeah, that's another one.
No, obviously the game where we have to play the Steelers again.

that's the question is ocho before you go any further is lamar gonna be back when he played these games

even if lamar is back the back end is horrible the defense is horrible so he's going to have to match us offensively and we've seen him do that last year remember yeah

this this is not this is not last year this is not last this is a new year okay

you see how you're talking chat y'all see how you're talking chat do y'all see how ocho talking you see get real reckless he get real reckless in here. With one game.

I'm being nice. I'm being nice.

So now you're being nice. Yeah,

this is one game, but look at how, look at the, look at them.

You know, Chicago ain't going to be no easy win now.

Well, Chicago can't do nothing with us on defense. Oh, Chicago gonna be no easy win now.
Hold on. Stop.
Hey, hold on. Stay right there.
Stay with me real quick.

Chicago's defense cannot do anything with us offensively. They can't do nothing with us.
And I mean that with all due respect. Now, I like what Caleb Williams has done.

I love the creativity of Benjamin. Well, he's on the team.
Huh? And they got some nice receivers. They got DJ Moore.
They got Roma Doomsday. They got Burton.
Yeah, I know. I know.
I know. I know.

But let's slim it down a little bit.

Hey,

it's about who they nation right now.

Hey, Jack, boy, he boy, he on one tonight. Look at him.

Hey, we got the Jets. When we play the Jets, when we play the Jets,

a week from Sunday, the 26th. Yeah, but we're going to listen.
They just going to be on, but owing.

And y'all got, guess what? Y'all got them at home. Y'all got three games in a row at home.
Matter of fact, I'm going to come back.

I'm coming back to that one because I think I was a good luck charm tonight. I'm coming back next week.
Oh, you're the good luck charm, huh? I was a good luck charm. I'm coming back next week.

Yeah, but

look, they got a very favorable schedule. Like you said, the Patriots is not going to be an easy win.
Lamar is supposed to be back.

Well, he'll definitely be back. that's the 27th that's a

that's a 520 so that got to be a sunday game that's a sunday night game 520.

yeah

yes sir

who they who they who they think they're gonna beat them bangles who they who they who they oh joe earlier today micah sounded off on how he's how He's officiated and refs in general.

Let's take a listen to what Micah had to say. You know, five years is not going to call.
You'll eventually start worrying about it. You know, but you know, I think

I just got to keep going.

That's the hunt. Yeah.
Like, that's part of the challenges. Like, you just got to keep going.

And that bothers them. That worries them.
They know that. Like,

that's the part of being one of the best. You know, that comes with some territory where the parts that you hate and the parts that the league lets go.
Like,

they know, like, I mean, you can tell how they call the games. They don't call out sides for Offense, but they'll call on defense.

They won't call offensive pass interference, but they'll call defensive pass interference. I mean like we know what you're trying to do.

They want to load the points up so fans can be happy and you know I mean they'll call defense a holding but they won't call offense a holding like like let's just wake up like it's just one of those things that

we know what the higher ups is trying to do.

Like the ref would say I know that's a hole, but

what? Like you're not going to call it? Like come on. Like ain't this one of those things that like i'm over it and i'm gonna just have to keep going push through

oh joe

he knows he's like you know what i should stop i shouldn't say anymore but he can't help himself now chat you tell me the great defensive player the great defensive player i don't if you're my age

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Let's just say you're between the ages of 60

and 25.

Tell me the great defensive player, and we believe Michael Parsons is a great defensive player. That you've heard them complain about being hell.

The LTs, the Reggie Weiss, the Bruce Smith,

the Derek Thomas, rest your soul, the Von Millers, the Aaron Donalds, the JJ Watts.

Tell me the great defensive player that you heard have a microphone, get up on the platform, and complain that they're not getting calls. Yeah.

You can't do that, huh? You can't do that. As a player, I mean,

I'm thinking about myself as a receiver. I ain't complaining about no holding because I'm getting hell.
That's my fault. That's my plug.
Micah Parsons is too good. He's too great at his position.

He's too great at what he does. And obviously, on the other thing, on the flip side of things, referees are graded.
Those referees want to be able to call that Super Bowl. So the better.

Playoffs, Super Bowl. Absolutely.

Listen, that's a check. That's money for them.
So they want to make as many calls as possible based on what they can see with the naked eye. Do they miss some calls sometimes? Of course.

It's human error. It happens.
But they want to grade as high as possible so they can be in those playoff games. So they can, so their team as a unit can be in the Super Bowl.

They're graded. So they're not just missing calls on purpose, but also as a player, a player of your magnitude.
Now, you shouldn't worry about that.

If you're getting hell, that's on you. I don't think I ever, I don't think I've ever, and I could be wrong, but, and my memory is pretty good.
I think I can have great recall.

I don't think I've ever publicly complained.

Oh, man, they was holding all game and they ain't call it. Man, they've been hauling me all year.

I'm going to play through that. You call it, you call it.
That ain't my job. Because to see if I'm, because what's going to happen, I'm going to all of a sudden start worried about the calls.

They're going to throw the ball and go beat me up, hit me all in the chest, all upside the head. And then what? Then people are going to be like, was he holding on that one

or did you just drop it? Right.

Don't complain, bro. Micah, you too good.
Way too good. You're way too good for this.

And it's not. So guess what? Now, Ocho, I'm going to keep, hey, I'm going to keep my pocket sold in my pocket now.

I ain't fit to pull it out. Right.
You trying to put us on blast?

Michael, Michael, you're too good. If you want to be thought of as one of these greats, I mean, let's just take your error.
Miles Garrett ain't complaining. TJ Wadda ain't complaining.

These guys ain't complaining. Michael, you're too good.
Who cares about what they're doing with the tush push? You're not there. When you have to defend it, then you worry about that.

You don't have to defend it.

They don't listen. They don't, first of all, they're not listening to players.
First of all, you're not a quarterback. They listen to nothing you got to say.
They only listen to quarterbacks.

That's why they changed the rules. That's why they let them have the balls.
It used to you get one day, now they get the balls for the whole week. Now you can't hit the quarterback in the head.

Now you can't hit the quarterback in the knees. You can't tackle them below the weights in the pocket.
They listen to quarterbacks.

They don't listen to other players because if they did, they wouldn't have the rules that they have that's weighted against the defense. But Come on, Michael, man.
You got to stop this, bro.

And the funny thing about it is the game now in this era is changed.

It's handicapped. It's handicapped for the this, it's handicapped in a way in favor of the offense.
Correct. You already know that.
It's the deepest of player.

Just continue to play, play through contact, play through the holes. Those calls are going to come.

They're going to come.

Don't even worry about it. Just continue to play as well as you always do.
That's it. Play to what we know you can do.
Being one of the best at your position.

There's a reason why you paid as much as you are. Oh, Joe, what you do is that you have your coach, you have your video department cut it up, the holding calls, have your head coach to send it in.

That's what you do. Hey, I'm going to take it out of my hands, but have the video department.
That's what everybody else does. I guarantee you, that's what the Steelers does.

That's what the Cleveland Browns does. Anybody that has a pass rusher, this is what they do.
Okay,

if I got a good receiver receiver and i believe he's getting held i'll go to i'll cut it up and i'll send it to the official here are the plays that we believe he was held in this game these are the plays that we believe the guy got offside these are the plays that's what you do but you because people gonna look at you it's like you're complaining like the reason why because now i think he got one sack maybe two sack and people like oh you're making 47 million dollars a year and here we are six games in and you got one sack you got two sacks yeah it's going to look like you're complaining and i don't think micah is a complainer.

I know he's frustrated because when you get that kind of big money, Ocho, you know, you've gotten paid. The one thing you want to do, you want to go show the world why they paid you the big dollars.

And

I ain't tried to like, hey, the moment I get that money, oh, man, Ocho got paid. Yeah, let me go on.
Let me go on out here and drop me about a 150 and two tubs

to let them know why they paid me. Hey, quick in the hurry and don't care who out there and don't care who holding it.
If I get here, it's my fault. I ain't doing something like

yep uh

and that's how that's how micah is going to have to look at it but i think the thing is that when you do it something like this people gonna look at you like man micah whining he's complaining the other and the other teams like hey hold it make them call it

make them call it

And then all he's going to do is get, he's going to get more and more frustrated. So just play through it, Micah.
You're too good of a player to let stuff like this. I get it.

I know you're frustrated.

First of all, I don't believe believe micah i don't believe this is what this is how you this is why you got to be careful with what you say because when things weren't going his way where he said he tweeted he wanted to he wanted to get traded he put on x he wanted to get traded i no longer want to be a cowboy he said he said that ojo

a lot of times we say it all the time ojo when emotion is our logic is low be careful There's power in the tongue. Yeah.

Yeah.

He said he want, that's not what he really wanted. he wanted to put the pressure on the cowboys, but you had already backed Jerry in the corner, Jerry wasn't backing down, right?

Oh, you had already, you already, you already had backed the man in the corner, uh, he felt he had a handshake deal, and now you come in, and this is what I'm just telling you what Jerry felt.

Jerry is a man, first of all, you know, how people in power, people in position of power, people that have money, yeah, they ain't backing down now.

Hold on, you're not finna bully, you're not finna bully not many owners, on nothing, not many owners, Absolutely not. No.

No.

So

that's what happened. But Micah, just keep playing.
There come, you understand.

Sacks are like bananas and grapes. They come in bunches.
Oh, yeah.

Hey, you might go, oh, Joe, you might go a game or two and not get any. And then you'll go three games where you have six.
Yep.

And the next thing you know, you're like, you look up like, damn, Micah got seven sacks.

That fast. And that's just how it happened.
It always happens like that. Yes.
It always happens like that. Hell, sometimes you're going to get you.
Hey,

I go two for 35,

I go four for 60.

Damn, man, man, in one game, man, shoot, 11, 260,

6 for 190. Well, god damn, what happened? There you go, and it happens how it works,

every time.

Matter of fact, 25 example, look at Chase

two weeks ago,

40 yards. Yep.
Look at the past two weeks.

It's the nature of the business. It's the nature of the game.
It always happens like that. You're not going to go crazy every week, no matter how great you are.
No. No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

But it goes, you know.

I mean, but here's the thing.

Chase crazy at 16.

His good sense, he get nine.

That's the thing. You look at him against Green Bay.
He had nine. Like, damn, we slowed him down.
Now you pop off with 16. He got 25 catches in two games.

So, where he was, you're like, damn, hey, Chase ain't winning no triple crown this year. Yeah.

You sure about that? Yeah.

You sure? Hey, because he

popped off again. It's amazing.
It's amazing. It's amazing what happens when you get a quarterback.
40 years old. 50 years old.

If you can throw and sling the ball and they can keep you upright so you can deliver said ball, this is what you get.

And it's it's not easy because we had Jake Browning.

Well, hell, he should be able to do it. No, now you take Joe Flacco, who got Benston Cleveland, and you put him here in the Bengals offense with elite talent around him at the receiver position,

a decent running back, an offensive line that everybody been talking trash about,

and

they play their part. That's it.
We are going to win. Everything starts up front.

Hey, look, do your job.

whatever your job is whatever your job what is whatever is required yeah you to do to do your job that's what you got to do don't worry i'm not worried listen i'm not worried about the offensive line because that ain't my job right now if it when it comes my time i got a pass block now i got to worry about it okay what we got who am i gilligan i'm on an island

where am i where am i where am i protected at Sharpie, I got you inside. So I can sit heavy outside knowing I got help inside.

If I ain't got no help inside, I got to sit down inside and then hopefully I can run his ass by the quarterback, the quarterback can step up. But you just got to do your job.
I can't worry about it.

I can't worry about what the safety is doing or what the linebacker doing or what the DN doing, Ocho. I got to worry about what A4 doing.
That's it. Because at the end of the day, I'm getting graded.

I'm getting graded on what I'm doing, not whether or not worried about what somebody else is doing.

CeeDee Lamb sat out the past three games with a high ankle sprain.

Today he said he could have played last week against the Panthers, but he sat another week so he he could be fully healthy without limitations. He will not be on a pitch count against the Commanders.

I feel like I'm moving around, running around, being me, happy as I can be, obviously, just believing in my ankle. Obviously, I feel like it's back to where I need it to be.
Ojo? Yeah. What you think?

Talk to me. I'm excited.
I'm excited.

The fact that he said, and him knowing his body, I could have came back last week, but I want to wait one more week to make sure I don't have to worry about nothing.

I don't have to worry about nothing. So for me that makes that offense in dallas even that much more scarier and you know what's gonna happen is hell chase got how many targets he got tonight uh

man chase had 18 targets 18 targets now don't

he got his hands on eight all 18 of them it wasn't like it was out of bounds or he didn't have no chance he literally got his hand on all 18 which is People don't realize how hard that is to have that many targets and to actually put your hands on all 18.

Yeah, most definitely. Shoot, I wouldn't be surprised if the getting back on track after missing three games.
I won't be surprised if goddamn CD had 15 targets next week. I won't be surprised at all.

I wouldn't be surprised at all

at all. And listen, man, honestly, I told I told CD, I hit him when he got her.
I say, listen, I can have you back in a week. What?

I can have you back in a week. But he just.

Well, look, looking at the severe, like when he did that, looking at it, I said, man, that's three weeks. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Most definitely. Because, man, hey, that thing.

Oh, let me take that back. Chase had 23 targets, Ocho.
23? 23 targets. I think the most I've ever had, Ocho, was like 15.

Hey, I don't,

I can't even tell you.

But I don't think we track targets like they do now. I don't think, I'm just saying, you know, you go back and look at the films and, you know.

They throw the ball over your head. That's a target.

You throw the ball 15 feet over my damn head and out of bounds. That's a target

if you was a sniper and i was your target and you shot like that people go like no that wasn't no trouble you off target yeah and that's another thing i like about flacco too is he makes every ball count he makes every ball count because every ball he throws he's gonna give you a chance to get it yeah he's gonna give you a chance to get it

I guess they count targets when they throw the ball in his PI.

So anything that comes your way. Yeah.

They count that too. Okay, okay.

Because,

man, Ocho, can you imagine what you could have done with 20-plus targets?

Man,

it's impossible. I mean,

I'm just thinking, I'm thinking it would only be possible in this era. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It would only be possible in this era.

When T.O. caught 20 passes, I wonder how many targets he had.

Brandon Marshall has the record. He has 21.
Yep, Brandon Yacht. So if you catch 20 balls, Ocho,

you you got at least 23 24 maybe even 25 targets hey matter of fact you know how many yards i would have you got to think i average maybe maybe six yards a game six maybe seven catches a game just if that but mine were always no you ain't having that many catches could you ever have a hundred catch season no hell no

because that's what i'm saying so if you average six catch six catches a game in 16 games that's 96 catches what's the most catcher you had in a season

about right there about 96. okay But I was a yardage muster because everything I caught was 10, 15 yards.
That's how I was on your own. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, I have 1,100 yards and three touchdowns. And if somebody else got 400 yards and they got six,

I'm like, man, throw me something. But we got close to the goal line.
TD going to run that end. We're not throwing no ball unless it's third or something.
But other than that,

man, nigga, that thing TD running that end. Yeah.

It's amazing, man. Just the era, the era of football that we're in now.
And they pull the ball so much.

Damn,

I can only wish.

OJo, Dak Prescott said he plans to speak with Jerry Jones about the importance of keeping George Pickens with the Cowboys beyond this season. I've been a little busy, but I will.

When I run into him in that time of privacy, I'll make sure.

But here's the thing, though, Jack.

Running in, okay, you want to keep him.

Are you willing to take less than your 60 mil?

Because, okay, you got 60. George Pickens is going to want max dollars.
He's like, because this is his first bite at the apple, he's going to say, Dak, you've had three bites at the apple.

I've never had a big bite of the apple. And I'm going to take as big a bite as I possibly can.
As a matter of fact, I might be a horse. I might eat the whole damn apple.
Damn, a bite.

I want the whole damn apple.

So that's the question. You know, you want all these great players.
That's what Brady did. You see what Mahomes is doing.
The question is, are you willing to take a little haircut?

I'm not saying you got to give him 20 million, but I'm saying, are you willing to take, say, if you can get 63, 64 million, are you willing to take 50, 57

so George Pickens can get his 30? Because he's going to want somewhere between 32 and 36 million dollars. That's what George Pickens is going to want.

Because he sees what DK got,

he sees what Terry McLaurin got. And I guarantee you, George Pickens believes he's every bit as good as DK Metcalf and Terry McLaurin.
He is.

He is. And I'm not sure Dak is

depending. I'm not sure Dak has already got his money already.

Dak got one more year on that contract or is he up?

But I think he had a monster cap number. I think he got like something like 80 million in cap.

Yeah, Dak done got paid.

I don't see him doing that.

I would like him to allow Pick goes up.

What's his cap number next year, Dak?

That's your cap in the 74. Oh, yeah, they got to do something with that.
His cap here is 74 million, Ocho.

You got to redo that deal. Damn.

You got to redo that. 68, yeah.
In 68.

What you think?

Oh, bro, you got to do. Oh, you definitely.
They definitely, they definitely, they're definitely going to redo that deal. They're not going to let that man play.
But, But what do you think, though?

Do you think Dak will take less to be able to keep pick?

That's what Jerry's going to ask him.

You mean Dak gonna ask Jerry? Excuse me. Yes.
No, that's what Jerry's going to ask Dak. Are you willing to take less so we can ensure we can put better players around you?

If Patrick Mahomes doesn't do what he does, you're not able to keep Chris Jones. Right.

You're not able to keep the Travis Kelsey and keep it together,

Colophtas.

Hey, they're going to have to do something with Trent McDuffie. Oh, hey, Trent, nice, huh?

Yes, so you're able to keep all these pieces together

because

you got Creed Humphrey on a big deal, you got Joan, uh, uh, your right tackle. Now, you hit it out the park because your left side looks really good.

The left tackle, Simmons, even the guy that came the backup, did an extremely great job the other night.

But you have to, uh, you have to,

uh,

you got to give up something, Ocho. It's really that simple.
The question is,

when we had, growing up financially, we struggle.

My grandma said, boy, what's going to be this month? The phone, the light, or the gas? One or the other.

I can't pay them all, son.

I mean, it's really that simple. Hey, you need the phone in case we got to call somebody.

The lights so you can do your homework. Yeah.
Or you and your brother are going to have to go down there and chop wood.

We pull that heat away from the fireplace.

And we go cut down a tree.

It's really that simple. So that's what you want.
You want to be the highest paid quarterback? Or you want to be sixth or seventh and have

talent around you to help you? Because guess what, Ocho? You're going to need some defensive help too. Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Absolutely. but i i think

me honestly allow pick to go get his thing

allow allow pick to go get what he's deserving of and i don't think jerry's is gonna open up his his pocketbook like that and cut the check that he's deserving of getting

oh you are his agent is uh the same guy that represented uh

who michael parsons oh yeah david mulageda yeah we're gonna we're gonna we gonna let pick going we

need to go and get his money over there in Las Vegas.

Over there in Las Vegas. They'll pay.
Now, the question is, you know, Ocho, normally when you go in free agency, everybody don't have the luxury like

AJ Brown. AJ went from Tennessee to Philly.

So a team that was perennial in the playoffs, you know, he went there. Normally in free agency to go get big bucks, you generally have to go somewhere in Ocho.

they ain't on the come. Yeah, you're right.
You're right.

But the question is, Ocho, the question, again,

hmm,

35, 36 million,

probably 75, 80 million

guaranteed.

I see you in Vegas.

Hey,

I see you in Vegas. Everybody done got theirs.
It's my turn.

But this is what I do hope, Ocho. i'm hoping they don't do this

tagging no

no no no i just ocho i just got i've tried to prepare you for everything because i already know you're gonna flip out so i'm just going to prepare you what's today's date today is the 16th thursday the 16th i'm just preparing you for that oh cho dang hey listen i i hear you i hear you i understand you prepared but let's not play that game Let's not play that game because if you tagging me, let's me know you don't value me.

You don't think I'm worth what I can get on the open market. Don't tag me, don't do that.
That's what I'm a firm believer in that, Ocho.

Hold on, let's see what I'm worth. You don't think I'm worth asking for? Let me go.
And you know, and Jerry has had that conversation with a lot of players.

Here, we're gonna let you go, we're gonna let you explore the open market and come back and tell us what they think of damn few times when you let a guy because the team's gonna overbid for him because they already know what I got to do.

Now, first of all, it might be a little easier because

it's going to be harder for them,

Dallas to, if they let him test the open market, it's going to be harder because Pick doesn't have an attachment to Dallas. He's only there for a year.
So he might be viewing it as a rental, Ocho.

Hey, I'm staying in this rental property. I'm going to instead of getting me a house.

They got these apartments that's already furnished.

Yeah.

Hey, listen. So he's not entrenched in the community.
He hasn't been there for four or five years.

I don't know if he's married or has a fiancé or girlfriend or whatever the case may be, but he doesn't, I don't know if he has that there. I don't know if he has kids there.

So he's not entrenched like somebody that's been there six or seven years.

So

it's easier.

It's a lease with an option to buy.

It's a lease with an option to buy. And I prefer getting that lease.
and going somewhere where you can get what you deserve like every other receiver at your position has.

Everybody else got theirs oh yeah for sure and you deserve to be paid like a number one now the cowboys already have a number one receiver and the one thing that they're gonna say upstairs over there within jerry's world is well we already paid cd lamb extra amount of dollars we don't view you as such because we already have a number one

we already have a number one okay you already know the game they're gonna but it would be hard ocho because of what they gave up what did they give up a third round pick for a pick or fourth

to get to give that up for him and then and and just basically keep him as a rental for a year

so that's why i think jerry might be more apt to sign him yeah jerry loves offense so if if if if

if a player was to get some money third and a third they gave a third and the fifth

And that's the next year's draft because he was signed. They traded for him after the draft.
So he gave a third and the fifth in 2026. Third and 26, fifth and 2027.
Okay.

Then you got to think, then you have to think it all comes to Dak as well. What is Dak willing to do? How much less is Dak willing to

not to take so they can sign pick? And then defense. You need defensive players.
You do.

You need some. Now the question is, Ojo,

if you go out and fringe, you know, you got to overpay.

Do you believe you can hit it in the draft market?

You believe you can draft a guy. Or because you got two first rounders.
You're not going to draft no, but who you gonna draft ain't gonna make a make a difference?

You need a statement piece on that defense. Listen, when you put your clothes on, when you put your clothes on, this is for everybody in the chat.

When you put your clothes on, I know I know some women in there, I know some fellas in here too. When you put your clothes on, you got to have one thing that stands out.
That's a statement piece.

The Dallas Cowboys defense needs a statement piece. I don't know it could be a D-tackle, it could be a corner, it could be a safety, but you got you need it.

Your statement piece gone over there at the green. I don't know about you, Ocho.
When I put my clothes on, I'm the statement.

I feel. I'm saying, yes, I got nice jewelry.
I got accessories. Right, right, right, right, right.
But it got to be a statement piece. Listen,

when a woman gets dressed, right? Yes. Women get stressed, there are two things that make that

for her, that is the statement piece. It's either your bag or

your heels. One or the other.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. One or the other.
What you wearing doesn't matter. You're right, Ocho.
Ocho, you ain't wrong when you're right. Yeah, talk to me now.
I'm just

talking to you like I want to. 26.
I'm going to talk to you in 26. Right now, we're going to probation.
I'm still on probation, Ocho. 26, y'all.
Up back. Up back.

Hey, my probation officer, he be checking in. He be watching this show.

And from time to time, he's like, okay, you know, I'm going to have to write you up. Yeah.
Okay. Good.
You're good.

You're good. Yeah.
But 26, you know, I had to do, you know, I got to do, I had to do like 12 months. Right.
12? Yeah, I had to do 12 months probation. All right.
Well, how long we got? What?

Two months? We got what we in October? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Probably around, probably like April, May, 26.

I'm out like a scout. I'm out like a scout on a new route.
But hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on. You ain't got to wait that long, though.
You know why you ain't got to wait that long?

Why we ain't got to wait that long? Listen, when New Year,

when that ball drop on New Year's, ball drop. When the ball dropped, you good to go.
You know why? What they say,

why

they say, oh, listen, they letting you

Yeah, when you've been.

They say they'll give me three days for every good day. I've been good.

It's like the fans. Cause the fans give you like 54 days for every year.
For every year you serve.

Hey, you're saying.

So, hey, hey, January 26th, January 1st, man, you good to go, man. We back to normal.

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