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Sunday, games between the Packers and the Steelers isn't about Aaron Rodgers and Matt LaFleur.

Matt LaFleur said today.

We're playing the Pittsburgh Steelers who happen to have Aaron Rodgers.

It's as simple as that.

That's for you guys to talk about.

Granted, I mean, we've got a lot of love and respect for Aaron.

we know what he's done here i mean he's a hall of famer and i know like our past together we had a lot of great moments but the game is not about that

oh joe what's the biggest statement aaron rodgers taking out his former team or jordan love outplaying his old mentor uh i think as a green bay packer fan organization coaches hell fans in general you you would want jordan love to outplay you know your quarterback that they used to be there for a decade plus that's that's what you want to happen or the coach is going to say all the right things.

Yeah, damn near two decades.

Damn near two decades.

Obviously, the coach is going to say all the right things.

Oh, it's not about Aaron Rodgers.

Yes.

Yeah, whatever.

You know what it is.

You know what the storylines are going to be

with this week coming up.

And you want your players that's in your locker room, especially at the quarterback position, to not only play well, but to be Aaron Rodgers, because you want that to be the headline.

You want that to be what they talk about after the game is over.

Everybody's going to say the right thing.

Listen to Tom Brady talk now.

Oh, I hyped up everybody, but in the actuality, what I'm telling my team, we're going to kick his ass.

We're going to kick their ass.

I've been saying that.

Yeah, they're going to say all the right things.

Oh, look, it's just another opponent.

They just happen to be on our schedule.

Bull jive.

No, it ain't just another opponent.

It's not.

Aaron Rodgers is upset with how he was treated his last couple of years there.

He didn't want them to draft

Jordan Love.

He made that abundantly clear.

Anyway,

yes.

They were tired of being held hostage

by Aaron Rodgers.

The same thing, Aaron did, the same thing that Brett Barb did.

They got tired of it.

They got tired of Brett not wanting to come to training camp, not wanting to do anything but play in the game.

They got tired of Aaron and the same thing, so they drafted his replacement.

Production and tolerance.

As long as tolerance, production is here, tolerance will be here.

Tolerance will never, ever outweigh production.

I don't care what line of work you're in, as long as you produce, they'll tolerate a lot of ish from you.

The moment tolerance is more than production,

you

you got to go.

But, I mean, if I'm Aaron Rodgers, I ain't got, Aaron Rodgers ain't got nothing to hang his head about.

Bro, you got 40.

Look, do I believe Aaron should have won more in Green Bay?

Yes, based on what the talent that he had,

based on his talent alone,

one of the two or three most gifted throwers of the football that we've ever seen.

You're going to probably have to go a long, long time before you find somebody that can throw the ball that was as good as Aaron Rodgers.

And you look at what they had offensively, the talent that they had, you look at the defensive talent, I think they should have won more.

I do.

I think, man,

I do.

I think they should have, even if you don't win a Super Bowl, get to a Super Bowl.

You know what I'm saying, Oncho?

Get to a Super Bowl.

Crazy talented.

But other than that, look, he wants to win too.

He's going to say all the right things.

When they ask him, when they get into the locker room on Wednesday, he's going to say all the right things.

Had a great time there, met some friends there, got some cool guys, some guys in that locker room.

I'm still cool with.

He's probably still cool with Jordy and Clay Matthews Jr.

There's some guys maybe on the team.

I don't know how many of the guys on the team that are still there when he was there, but I'm sure he's cool with some of the people in upper management.

He might be still cool with them.

Probably not Brian Gutikins.

He's not cool with him, but there are probably some people, you know,

some personnel, equipment managers, or training staff, things like that, Ocho.

You know, hey, you see these guys every day and you're there like, well, you're there for 5, 10, 15, there was there for like, what, 18 years?

Yes.

But

everybody's going to say the right thing, but I promise you.

Matt LaFleur want to win this game more than anything.

Brett Farr want to win this game more than anything.

Because guess what?

I told you.

I got to to be able to tell you i told you so

and you

you won't you don't got to say it publicly hey just just watch how just watch how

i'm gonna walk different after i get this win i'm gonna walk different

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I think he's been two-time coach of the year at Cleveland Browns, to be fired, saying he's been the problem rather than the Browns quarterback.

Deshaun Watson got caught liking videos, ish talking Stafansky on TikTok.

Ocho,

you like Deshaun doing this?

I mean, it's social media.

Sometimes you like stuff you shouldn't.

Sometimes you like stuff you should.

Maybe, maybe Deshaun feels the same way everyone else feels.

Is it okay for him to be able to like it publicly?

I mean, yeah, I'd assume so.

If you're able to deal with the consequences of doing so,

and obviously, he's in a position where he doesn't really care, which is why he did it publicly.

Because everyone can see what you like.

Absolutely.

Everybody can see it.

That's why, you know what, Ocho, when I get to a page and

they're saying something about, look, obviously, I know Stephen A's been trending a lot lately.

I scrolled right on past it.

Just so it's no mistakes, huh?

Nope.

Somebody say something about something?

I strolled right on past it because I already know.

Hey,

I ain't know it was that serious, too.

Speaking of Stephen A.

I mean,

I thought LeBron thing, I thought that was just like,

you know, their makeup.

They're going to be like Muhammad Ali and Howard Cosell.

I'm like, oh shoot, but they dead ass.

No, I just

hey,

that's him.

I could, I could comment, but that's not my place.

I'm good.

We're over here.

All right, Ocho, according to ESPN, Cleveland, two different sources told them that Shadura Sanders will play for the Browns this season.

One says Shadur will start at least four games of the season, no matter what.

Those final four games against the Bears, Bills, Steelers, and Bengals.

The other said, other source said that Shadur may take over even sooner than that.

Ocho, what do you make of this?

I mean, I take it with a grain of salt.

If you watch the Browns

when they beat the Dolphins,

it really had nothing really to do with the quarterback position.

The defense played so goddamn out their mind and

practically won that game.

I say they give Dillian Gabriel maybe

another week, maybe two, maybe even three, because that is the person they chose to be, the backup quarterback of Flacco.

It's a lot of football left, Uncle.

It's a lot of football left.

And he has to play extremely bad, maybe the next game or the next two games before I think they make a choice and they move to Shadur, because once they make a move to the third quarterback,

you can't be picked up and back and forth.

No.

Dylan Gabriel get three, four games.

Shadur get three, four games, and you go back up.

I know.

I agree with you.

I agree.

Look, I don't know.

I don't know.

This is what this is what the guy said, the sources

inside of Cleveland told him.

I don't know.

I don't know anybody in Cleveland.

So I can neither confirm nor deny that is true.

But what I do know is that whatever decision that you make, you probably need to stick with it.

because you've already made one quarterback change.

So if you make another one, that's two.

are you really trying to make three quarterback changes

see what happened with the first quarterback change you made it wasn't the right right decision because you put you put you you ship one to a great situation

yes

yes i got a guy you got a guy that can throw the football he understands you got two uh you ship him to a team that's quarterback deprived,

that has great skill players, and you give him a guy that's not mobile, but he can throw it.

Man, listen.

And like Mike Thomas says, uh,

hey, hey, Thomas, funny, bro.

Andrew Barry must be a lot smarter than you and I.

Hey, we might hang 50 on the Jets, man.

Mike,

we might hang 50 on the Jets.

Mike.

But I believe y'all going to be facing Tyrod.

Oh,

did Aaron Glenn come out and say who was a starter this week yet?

Nope, he did not.

Ooh, that's tough for him.

That's tough.

He didn't.

But I, look,

you know, you heard time say that, look,

Shador time is going to come.

And when it comes, just be ready.

He said, it's going to happen, but just be ready.

And we all go through that.

Being a low-round draft pick, pick,

just like, well, hey, my brother told me John Elwood is going to call your number.

When he calls, just make sure you're ready.

Look at that phone.

And

I hope when he gets that call, he comes in there and he shows that, hey,

you got a quarterback and you can build with me.

We won't know until we see it.

The Rams became the first NFL team to fly in the day before an international game and play, then immediately head back out.

And it worked.

The Rams won 35-7 on the Jags.

The Rams are always ahead of trends.

It's what makes them unique.

Could this be the next big trend?

How far aflight is that?

Six hours.

Oh, no, from L.A.?

Not from no LA.

That's about 12.

Yeah.

Yeah, about 12.

What part of the UK are you going to from LA that you get there six hours?

I mean, shoot.

Maybe if you in New York at six hours.

New York is six hours in 30 minutes.

I forgot.

I'm tripping.

Yeah, it's six hours.

I've taken that flight a lot going to JLK.

It's six hours from LA to JFK.

That's a long flight from LA, huh?

Yeah.

Hell yeah.

Hold on to go and turn right back around.

Yes.

So they flew in, they got in Saturday,

woke up Saturday morning, I mean, Sunday morning played

and got right back on the plane.

So they was there less than 24 hours.

Hey,

that's what you call, I'm going strictly for business and nothing else.

Oh, yeah.

Man, I remember we played, we played,

we went to Tokyo.

We flew to Tokyo.

Tokyo.

International, you know, used to play those international preseason games.

So we, I played in Bar I played in Berlin, Barcelona, Mexico, Tokyo twice.

Ojo,

how about we take that long ass flight?

We had to pack a bag.

We went because guys, you know, if you were married, you was able to take your wife.

They got on, they went to, they went to a separate, they got on the bus, and then we went and we ran Windsprint.

Wait, what?

Yes.

So if your wife came with you, you didn't have to run.

No, the wives got on the bus and they went to the hotel.

We got on another bus and took our ass to the field and ran sprints.

What to get some of that jet leg out?

Get the

uh

well, we don't want y'all to go to sleep.

Well, my body says, I'm sleepy.

My body ain't telling me to run.

Right, right.

Hey, that's funny.

Man,

I don't know.

I don't be knowing what he'd be coming up with this at, Ocho.

But you know, you get somewhere international, you know, you make sure you go to body.

Get out of the way.

But I'm tired.

How long is that flight to Tokyo?

Unless you like somebody else I know that can sleep the whole while on the plane.

How long is that flight to Tokyo?

Oh, gosh.

Don't start me to lying.

Oh, we went to Australia too, Ocho.

I don't even remember now, Ocho.

Hey,

that sounds like a good time now.

What's a good time?

Like, you have to think, I've been all over the world, but my traveling is done strictly for soccer.

I'm strictly going for soccer games.

I've never been to Tokyo, but if I was to go somewhere where it had nothing to do with soccer, Tokyo is a place I go.

Look, it's hot.

Hot.

It feels just hell yeah.

I live in Miami.

Okay, it's just like Miami, but more crowded.

So double the amount of people that's in Miami.

Because we went to Tokyo.

So double the amount of people.

Damn.

Yeah.

I like it.

I think it was, I think we flew to Australia.

I think it was like 18 hours.

Hey, that's.

Because we had a double decker.

You had an upstairs and a dialogue.

That's how it was when I flew to

Qatar.

I flew to Dubai and I had to go to...

i want to fly what's on their lives like united emirates i want to get because i'll be seeing the fame on tick tock where they be having a first class and they got all it's nice i just want to take me a trip i might just fly over there stay on the plane trying to write a cut right back but i want to do that you know what i'm saying don't you gotta do that gotta do that yeah yeah oh man that that that

yeah you know what

i think probably next year or two i'm gonna take me a couple trips yeah

matter of fact you said in a year too also you was um

you gonna get that's why that's why i'm gonna take me a couple trips i got to find out i mean if i can't be with you three or four days how i'm gonna be with you three or four years

that's a good one right there i like that i like that i like that yeah matter of fact you ain't even got to take the trips you could you can make sure you could you could be with her three or four days in the states

if i could be with you three or four days no i gotta go i gotta go

out

because because from what i've been hearing they're like shana you ain't going to find nobody.

Look, bro, I know, you know, you're setting your ways, but

women like to go on vacation.

They do, bro.

They do.

They do.

They like a little change of scenery.

They like a little change of scenery.

I mean, I mean,

you know how they say, I mean, depending on what's left out here.

So

you got to pick from what's left, you know.

Now, I'm not telling you what I heard.

I'm telling you what I know.

Hey, man, everything, look here.

This ain't no back to school.

Everything ain't picked over now, Ocho.

Damn.

You make it seem like you like it's back to school out here.

Hey, huh.

Boy, hey, it's slim pickets.

Now, once we get up in age, now ain't like we just got the best of the best.

You're right, Ocho.

You're right.

You're right.

We can get age.

You're right.

Man, listen.

You got to get what you can.

Like you go in the produce section,

they done picked all the goddamn good fruit.

Now you got to pick the.

That's why you got to wash fruit.

Everybody had nothing been on it.

You know what I'm saying?

Ocho, you go bite into an apple if you want to, it's done been touched 50 times.

Hey, you can't, you can't be too picky.

Gotta work with what you got.

Damn, ocho.

Hey, hey, listen.

I can't be picky, ocho.

Picky, you're gonna be by your damn self trying to be picky.

Yeah, I guess, I guess, I gotta

nobody know

the trouble.

Hey.

Hey, but them days are trying to be picky and pick the right one.

And man, shit.

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right, Ocho.

I remember those days, I used to, you know.

Yeah.

And you got all these requirements and she got to look like this, got to have this pixie haircut.

And

yeah.

A bob.

all that shit out the window, boy.

Once you get past, once you get past 40,

yeah, boy, hey, hey, hey, pick is picking real soon.

I guess it ain't no whole foe.

Hey, I better go for the damn half-off sale.

Shit, half-off, boy, this is a clearance rack, but once you hit Ryan,

damn!

I got to go to Marshalls of Ross.

Call him, come on, chat.

God dang.

God

dang.

Hey, hey, what shit rough, boy?

Shit rough.

Hey,

women, women, women can get away with it.

You know, when they in their 20s, you know, early 30s.

Oh, you, you can, you can get away with it.

You know, having, oh, I got requirements and you got to meet this and meet that.

But you hit about, you know, 40, 45.

Oh,

shit.

All that shit out the window.

Now, you better get what you can.

All that being picky.

Gonna get a half off sale.

Dollar tree, here I come.

Hey,

hey, I heard Dollar Tree done marked everything up.

They ain't got no more dollars in Dollar Tree.

They say everything $2.99, $3.99.9 Dollar Tree.

Damn, I'm out of gas.

Oh, well, hey, listen, you got you got to understand: as you get older, as you get older, whether you're male or female, now you compete, you compete with the young folk, you compete with the young folk.

Now, if you don't want to compete, you know, you

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It's raining outside.

I got to come on in the house.

Damn.

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According to

Yaron Weissman, I hate that fake-ish.

I just can't do it.

LeBron quietly pushed for a reunion with Kyrie Irving, a move that would have required trading Russell Westbrook, despite publicly denying it.

LeBron often let Russ be Russ in interviews, but didn't actually support him behind the scenes.

During a Lakers team event where Will Smith came to speak, LeBron and AD suddenly walked out before he arrived.

Minutes later, they returned acting overly friendly.

LeBron dominated the talk, asking questions and quoting movie lines.

Westbrook was watching in disbelief, told a teammate, I hate this fake-ish.

I just can't do it.

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These moments made Russ view LeBron as inauthentic.

Unauthentic.

Hey,

I thought everybody got along, huh?

I thought everybody got along.

So now, what I hear Russell Westbrook saying, I also heard LeBron, I mean, LeBron, I heard Stephen A say the same thing in some clips I saw today earlier when I was flying in today.

I flew in from Columbus.

I did some shoot with Jeremiah Smith today.

And I saw the same, like, well, damn, the same thing you just said, or Russell Westbrook just said, well, Stephen A just said he was doing behind closed doors as well.

And I, listen,

when, when, when you as

it's powerful

it's powerful you don't you don't reach that level of that height of fame and and and and

I I don't know that's that's one that's hard for me to to gain because all I know is being me

all I know is being me authentically myself whether you like it or not I did it in NFL There were rules, there were certain rules you had to abide by.

I chose not,

if it meant doing it your way and I couldn't truly be my authentic self, that means it won't work for me, which is why I never changed while I was playing.

So that same person you get on the field, the same person you get off the field.

I can't be anyone else but myself.

I'm not an actor.

Ain't no cameras rolling.

What you see is what you get.

So I mean,

I understand what Westbrook is talking about.

in a sense, but I'm not in their world.

I don't get to see the vaughn all the time i don't i don't get to interact with him i'm not on the team so i'm i the times i do see him it's well what's up boy it's good to see you and i'm gone so it's hard for me you would be better

you know better versed to be discuss this than me all i know how how he is with me um

i've never had a conversation with lebron about anything else other than lebron

that's it

When people ask me how somebody is, well, man, what's magic like?

What's magic like with me, or what would he be like with you?

What's LeBron like with me?

Or what would he be like with you?

That's all I can speak to.

I've never asked LeBron one question about any other player.

We talk about shoes.

We talk about this.

We talk, you know,

Nicky Next job.

Great game, blah, blah, blah.

I shoot him, you know, text, DM, blah, blah, blah.

Hey, he shoot me back.

That's it.

That's it.

I don't know what his relationship was with Russ.

I don't know what his relationship with is Stephen A.

When Stephen A and I talk about LeBron, it's on camera.

We were debating a topic about LeBron.

That's it.

He'll tell you, I don't talk about LeBron.

That's it.

If he feels that way, hey, I don't know.

I can't tell you guys how Russ should have felt.

That's how Russ felt.

Russ felt like he was saying one thing publicly.

He was doing something else privately.

That's Russ's experience with LeBron.

Stephen A felt he was saying one thing.

Stephen A said, hey, I know for a fact it's gotten back to me that he's tried to do things to try to prevent me from getting my money.

I don't know

what y'all want me to do.

Dang.

I don't have that type of relationship with any professional athlete so I can be the defensive one way or another.

I don't.

Like I said, people are like, oh, you're on LeBron and payroll.

Well, hell, I wish over the last five or six months they had been shooting your boy something.

I sure could have used it.

But no,

I get, listen, I dealt with that because, oh, oh, Unk is a character.

Yes,

yes.

Unk was a character that I created.

Just like Dave Chappelle created all those characters, just like Eddie Murphy created all those characters.

Anybody that knows me knows what I am like

off camera.

Yeah.

I'm quiet.

Ain't nobody boring.

I am the most outgoing introvert you're going to meet.

I have an outgoing personality.

When I'm out and about, I know how to mingle.

But for the most part, I would prefer to be home, secluded by myself.

Yes, everybody, everybody that knows me knows was a character.

Yeah, same.

Everybody knew that, just like they knew Ocho Cinco was a character.

Okay.

Oh, that's fake.

Like, bro, come on.

If I rock with you, I rock with you.

If I don't, I don't.

And if I don't, you'll know.

And I could be, if I don't rock with you, I ain't gonna be taking it.

If I don't rock with you, if we're at somewhere, if we're at an event together, ain't no, hey, man, what up, bro?

How you doing?

It ain't none of that.

I don't rock with you.

I don't rock with you.

That's what, that's, that's how it is.

And there are people that you know you you were cool with once.

Everybody is not going to have a you're not going to have a lifelong relationship with everybody that you come in contact with.

There are people that you met in high school, locho, that was that was that was as far as that friendship was supposed to go.

People that you met in college, that was as far as it was supposed to go.

People that you met in the league, some people you meet for six months,

bro.

Damn,

Some people here for a season,

just a season.

That's it.

And you got to be okay with that, OJo.

You got to be okay with that.

And look, like I said, I don't, people, man, what's LeBron like?

Man, I don't hang out with LeBron like that.

I go to the game.

We talk.

I've gotten invited to a couple of events that he put on.

Some I was able to attend.

Some I wasn't.

Hey, man, how you doing?

Man, Savannah.

Hey, Savannah, how you doing?

Met his mom, blow.

Same thing.

Kevin Durant, mom.

If I see her somewhere, like we best friends.

But I don't know Katie like that.

I don't know any, I don't know any other, I don't know any professional athlete like that.

None, zero.

And I'm okay with that.

I'm cool, I'm cordial, I'm respectful, but I keep it moving.

I don't know what y'all want me to have some intel.

I ain't over, I was never at LeBron's house or anything like that.

I don't know him like that.

I don't know anybody like that.

I'm not a

go-to people's house.

Oh, yo

14 years in league i went to ray's house on the oh eight

no when he was in bald okay

i went to

i used to go to a teammate samine reggie johnson his uh his girlfriend mo the one after cook I used to go to his go to his place.

He's like, hey, Mo, cooking tonight.

Come over.

We go over, play cards, roll dice, whatever the case may be.

And I went to Burns' house.

That's it.

We go, you know, if I go to a guy's house, go downstairs, we're rolling dice on the food table.

I ain't, I ain't, that's not what we did growing up as a kid.

So I was never those guys that just go over to people's house and hang out.

I ain't me.

I'm thinking my time in Cincinnati.

I was always at P.

Dub's house

when I first got there.

I was always at Peter Warwick house.

Outside of that, because I knew I knew Dub,

Florida boy down in Manatee.

I mean, I just already knew who he was.

It was someone I looked up to and respected as a receiver.

And I just hung out, I hung out at Dub House.

That was it.

I ain't really go to nobody else's house.

Now, hell, I didn't go to Carson's house till hell, but maybe three years ago, that's my first time going to Carson's house.

We filmed something with NFL films.

That was it.

I ain't go to nobody's house.

Uh-uh.

You know,

everybody in the league, just got, we can look, teammates, we can be friendly, we can be friendly.

We ain't got to be friends.

I ain't, I ain't that type of thing.

I don't really like going to people's house anyway.

I'm having something.

Oh, okay.

Who cook it?

I don't care what you're having.

Who cooking?

Nah.

So.

But it seems,

it seems man, when it rains, it pours.

You know,

Stephen A said what he said, and now this is coming out.

Would I be surprised if something else come out?

It's going to be a trickle effect, huh?

Because

once people have the cojornes,

you have Stephen A.

Now you have Russell Westbrook, and then other people are going to have their stories as well.

Yep.

None would probably hold.

That's generally how

none would probably hold the weight of two individuals like a Westbrook that is well respected or Stephen A, who I'd assume is well respected.

Uh,

but it's gonna happen, it's gonna, it's gonna happen.

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Here's our pick for flex play ahead tomorrow's NBA tip off.

Alfre Shungun,

more than nine rebounds.

Yeah.

Yeah, he's gonna get double.

Yeah, you get that.

Chet Hombren combined 24 points

and rebounds.

Wait, 24?

Who they play?

Oh, they play the Rockets.

Damn.

It's ring night, yeah.

Okay, he didn't.

So if he have 16 points, so it's just points and rebounds.

So he needs to have 16 points, eight rebounds.

What the average last year

cash

at the staff won 225, I won 75.

Steph Curry is going to have more than a half a point.

Luca will have more than 47 and a half combined points, rebounds, and assists.

Oh, he's going over that.

Shingoon will have more than nine rebounds.

That's 23.

I'm going under.

I'm going under.

I think it's going to be Shay and J-Dub night.

So I'm going under.

So

I'm going

Shingoon to have at least 10 rebounds.

Chat to have

less than 24 points and rebounds combined.

Luca to have more than 47 more points, 48, 47 and a half points, rebounds, and assists.

So when you combine his points, rebound, and assist, it'll be more than 47 and a half.

And Steph Curry will definitely score more than a half a point.

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I'm going to be right with this one.

Now, when I went, start winning, Ash, don't all of a sudden, because you know you'll be skimping on the graphics when I start doing when I start women.

Jimmy Butler said all the chaos in Miami last season paid off, and he's glad to finally be a part of an organization with no hidden agendas.

All that noise, all that chaos paid off in a major way.

I'm lucky to be a part of this phenomenal organization.

Everywhere starts off great, but then you know someone has to be the bad guy, and it gets to be me.

I'm always one doing something unbearable all of a sudden, but that's okay.

I get to play in this wonderful league with an amazing, with amazing teammates, but keep but being here,

they've only got one goal to keep hanging those things up on the wall.

Ain't no hidden agendas.

Hey, what'd you think, Gojo?

I'm not sure what's going on internally, you know, with Jimmy.

Obviously, we've heard the stories on the way Pat Riley runs his organization.

He's not been in, no matter who you are.

No matter who it is.

So I guess that would be somewhat maybe part of the hidden agenda, but the agenda is not hidden.

It's known.

Yeah, you already know Pat.

It's going to be Pat's way.

it's always been his way, you know.

And um, I mean,

but let me ask you a question:

Chicago, what happened in Chicago?

Oh, I don't know, I wasn't there.

Okay, what happened in Minnesota?

Oh, yeah, he didn't want to be there.

Okay, Philly,

I think he wanted to come back to Philly.

Philly wanted Ben Simmons because they thought Ben Simmons and Ben and Joel and Joel and B was a better match.

Okay, fine.

I ain't got no problem with that.

You went to Miami, no state taxes, you got your money,

But damn, Jimmy,

you knew going, first of all, if that man didn't acquiesce to LeBron, who won two league MVPs, went to four finals, two final MVPs,

you thought what?

Tell me what you think.

You don't stand a chance.

He took that man cookies, huh?

But I wish somebody would take my cookies.

I don't care who you are.

You are not the authoritarian.

Give my cookies back

yeah i don't i don't don't don't look whatever i bring on that plane that's mine don't f with it i ain't got

whatever i bring look okay you don't want if you don't want to have them serve food that that's that but if i bring it on that

that's me that's me

and don't hey don't let it be oh i i hope it what if what if they were freshly baked too freshly baked in the in the um

i don't i don't care if they i don't care if they're in the five day aisle they hard as bricks they mine

i oh yo you don't play with nobody food i don't know where they do that at

no hey maybe hey i don't i don't that i don't play with nobody food i don't that hey you know hey you go eat that and touch somebody i don't play them games like that

i don't i don't do that i don't know hey pat radio might be part of the mob

i don't know what pat riley but i tell you he might be part of

that's you know, you have a different mindset

when I guess basketball players have a different mindset.

And look, if you don't want to serve, look, I've been in situations we lost and we didn't get lunch.

You had to go out and get our own lunch, so you had to go to McDonald's or Burger King, whatever the case may be.

I get that,

but let me bring my lunch and be in my locker.

And everybody ain't nobody, boy, please.

tussle for this

yeah

so i don't i don't know i mean uh uh d-way told a story i guess i don't know if they if they had

they used to bring cookies on the plane for the players or lebron had brought uh brought cookies for them to warm up i don't i don't really know i'm the story d-way told he said lebron should bring his own yeah

Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't, like I said, I don't know.

I don't know if like they said, nah, ain't nobody getting no cookies.

Okay, fine.

That's their cookies.

Yeah, I've been mad too, fine.

But if it's my cookies, I brought them.

I said, hey, because you know, a lot of times, Dojo, it used to be,

you know, you'd ask the flight attendants to bring you stuff and they would bring it.

You know, you give them a couple of dollars, shoot them a couple of dollars, a couple of extra dollars,

get what you need, they bring it on the plane for you.

Man, please.

I'm happy.

Look, at the end of the day, everybody should be

where they work, they should be happy.

Now, it's hard.

I mean, everybody ain't going to be happy on the job because everybody ain't happy to be working at that job.

Everybody don't get to do what they love, but you're we got an opportunity to do what we love.

We love playing the game of football.

It was a kid's game.

We got played a grown man's salary to do it.

Everybody's not working that nine to five.

They're like, but I can't wait for this.

I can't wait for this day to be over with.

I ain't never think that.

In my 14 years, old Joe, I never thought, man, I should be glad when the day over with.

I enjoyed getting a boy into work and never set an alarm.

I ain't never had him alone.

I love it.

But to each his own, I'm glad.

Look, Jimmy, I'm happy that you're happy.

And at the end of the day,

you would step and Draymond, y'all got a great chance.

You get Kaminga back,

he stayed.

Let's see if it works out for everybody.

Hey, wait, oh, I'm gonna say they ain't got no big, they got Draymond.

What are you undersized, though?

Draymond.

I was gonna say them making a run.

I say, I've said it, they ain't got no damn big.

No,

all right.

It's time for our final segment of the evening.

It's time for Q and A.

Deshaun Allen, what's up, Uncanocho?

Give me your top five players who had the best dance celebrations.

True, Ocho, Ocho, Ocho, and Ocho.

Top five dance, Victor Cruz.

I'm going number one.

You got the saucer.

Victor Cruz saucer.

who damn the dances?

That's like that's hard to remember, man.

I mean, you gotta, I mean, T.O.

gotta be in there somewhere.

Uh, yeah, T.

T didn't really do any dances, though.

Maybe when hey, when they played the Baltimore Ravens and he hit that goddamn Ray Lewis, but that shit was funny as hell.

Hey, that joke was funny, boy.

Uh, T.O., it was

Antonio Brown.

Antonio Brown did a Miami dance we got here

he did a miami dance that that was that was that was that was funny yeah who else uh what about uh what about uh obj hey obj got some good ones obj obj he did the thriller michael jackson yeah i was just gonna say that we did the michael jackson was really dope oh trying to think who five would be

you like the icky shuffle yeah iggy shuffle's cool that's iconic that's that's iconic that's my five

i like like what they do now.

I like when they, the teams, if you'll be roaring the boat or, you know, the Vikings or the Dolphins or Detroit.

I like when the, I like, I like the group celebration now.

Jameer Gibbs and

Amon Ra tonight.

Oh, yeah.

Spider-Man, he dole on the top of it.

Like Superman.

I'm like, hey, hey, them boys funny, man.

Them boys funny.

That was funny.

I did.

I did see that.

That was cool.

That's all right.

L.

Prey say, hey, Uncle Ocho, start bench cut first, Michelle and Diego Chello, Maxwell, Mississippi Mass Choir.

Hey, I could say I could.

Ocho, you got Diego Maradona, Edison

Savannah, or Fabio Canavarro.

Well, I'm starting.

I'm starting by the donor.

Oh, man.

Man, look here, Ocho.

I'm sorry.

Michelle and Diego Chillo.

He's not over the Mississippi Mass Choir.

Boy, you tripping, boy.

Listen, when you go to bed tonight, make sure you say a prayer.

Now, I know it.

Hey, listen.

Well, you know what?

Guess what?

I'm cutting Diego Maradona.

I'm cutting Diego Maradona.

Uh-huh, my boy, you heard me.

Wait.

Hold on.

Wait, wait.

Listen, Maradona is

a legend in his own right.

In comparison to the other two.

Who's Maradona of the Argentine?

Hey, Mississippi Mass Choir.

Don't let nobody hear you say that.

I know the Mississippi Mass Choir.

I don't let nobody hear you say that.

But you don't, but

don't do that.

Come on.

You remember the song I told you.

I know, I heard it.

I remember the words.

I got it.

I got to save in my library.

But we talk about Mississippi Mass Choir.

Yeah, come on, man.

We talk about Mosy Burks, the legendary.

When I rose this morning,

I ain't tired yet.

Come on, man.

Stop playing.

I'm sorry, Ocho.

I gotta start.

Michelle,

I gotta bench Maxwell.

And you cutting the Michigan assquier?

Hey, boy.

Boy,

hey.

Father, forgive me.

Boy, you tripping.

Boy, you are tripping.

only uh, Messi might be.

I don't know.

I think it's close between Messi and Maradona in Argentina.

He didn't, he didn't.

Well, well, obviously, Messi is, but he did win the World Cup with the handball.

Hey, but listen,

Messi, Messi is, Messi is a great.

I was old enough to remember, you don't remember the hand of God.

I remember that.

I forgot what year.

I forgot what year that was.

I think it was 86.

Yeah.

I mean, obviously, it should have been a call.

It was a a clean ball, but hey, that hey,

Messi is

how you first of all, Ocho.

How you put, think about it.

How you put

Maxwell, Michelle Odigo, and Cello, and the Mississippi Mass Choir.

You got to have James Cleveland, Shirley Caesar, and the Mississippi Mass Choir, or the Mighty Clouds of Joy, or the

Alabama, the Five Blind Boys.

Anybody that grew up in in a church or knows about gospel music even with the comparisons of maxwell and

no you can so you get soccer players and then i get i get r b and neil soul in a in a gospel group hey listen mississippi mass choir come before any and everybody

any and everybody

uh no now if you want to give me the mississippi mass choir the Moddy Clouds of Joy, James Cleveland, Shirley Caesar, you want to give me something like that?

Now I can make a

okay,

but you're gonna give me two Neo Soul, and then you're gonna give me a gospel group.

You don't

L Pray say, Ocho, when was the last time you visited Paula and Granny?

Have you heard or got that confirmation you've been waiting for from your two angels?

Sure, did.

And uh, I'm you know, I'm glad you asked me that.

I haven't, I haven't been, I haven't been in a while since I since I talked about it.

I haven't been in a while.

I'm gonna go tomorrow because today tomorrow's my off day.

I'm just getting back in town.

And

that's tough.

That's tough.

That's tough

visiting that site, especially waiting on that sign.

I ain't got nothing yet.

A lot of people say, Oh,

you see, I mean, they're giving you a sign, you just don't see it.

But I'm so routine, and where I do the same thing daily, anything different

than

what I do, or any message I may see, I haven't gotten it.

I haven't gotten it.

But

give me Mahalia Jackson.

What you know about Mahalia Jackson, man?

Come on, man.

What you know about the upper room?

Need all that.

Texans offense can block eight against four and still lose the battle somehow.

Like

WTF, garbage coaching and talent combined equals Texans blocking.

Yeah, there were some time.

I was like, bro.

Y'all will let the guys, y'all got two guys on one guy and let one guy run Scott.

Brie Carter said, y'all need to change the pod from morning cap

to morning cap or late night cap because starting at 1.30 for us on the East Coast, y'all need to blame the NFL.

You make it seem like we wanted to come on.

I got a fight.

I got to catch in the morning.

That's the NFL's fault.

Baba Patel said, were all those people Glazing Baker Mayfield for MVP?

He overthrew receivers all night.

He had a bad night.

Sam Donald had a bad night.

And that's going to happen.

That's going to happen.

I mean, look,

every MVP has had a game where he didn't look like MVP.

T.S.

Car Washington Detail Service, sad what happened to Mike Evans, Unc, or Ocho.

Have you ever stood next to Yao Ming, Bobo, Wemby?

Them some tall humans.

I have not.

All of those guys that you mentioned are taller than Shaq.

I'm still next to Shaq.

So

I think Yao Ming is like 7'6.

I think Wimby is like 7'5.

I think Bobo, no.

Bob Bo is 7'7.

Bobo is like 7'2.

I thought for a second, I thought he said Manute Bowl because I think Manut is like 7'7.

What's that guy name?

Mama Du Nja.

That's his name.

He likes, yeah.

Remember the guy we saw at the fight?

Okay.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

They were sitting down.

Yes.

I think he likes seven.

Isn't he like seven, seven?

Saw your cars with Ocho.

You remember Josh Kribs?

As Unc would say, that Joker could move.

Yeah, he was a returner for the Browns.

Boy, number 16.

Yeah.

Joshua's nice.

Oh, yeah.

Mr.

Righteous, celebrating my 20th birthday with Nightcap.

Here is hopefully to many more.

Happy birthday.

Mr.

Righteous, yes.

Happy 20th birthday.

Almost, almost, almost

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but you can't just yet.

Wolf Hat Facts.

Ocho, I know you got an eye for good eats.

When you go to San Francisco, what Michelin star restaurant do you recommend?

Man, Ocho ain't eating in no Michelin star.

Ocho think Michelin is tires.

And the only

Michelin I know is tires.

Shoot, hey, bro.

This night, I don't eat like that, bro.

I don't eat like that, boss, man.

Truly, truly don't.

Mario Chiquito, what's up, Uggin Ocho?

Love y'all.

Ocho, I need you to put a good word in

over at EA to show some love to jsn madden ray

what rock running should be 99.

i don't know what his rate overall rating is yeah we're gonna get him together we're gonna get him together and we got a few people we got to get together not only him we got to get jc horn together we got to do something with jonathan taylor um

we got to do something with jameer gibbs

It's a few quarterbacks, especially Daniel Jones.

We did take care of Daniel Jones.

Oh, yeah, yeah.

There's a few people we need to

get some touch-ups on real quick.

David Jones, I know everyone jokes about Trent Dilfer, but he's a Super Bowl winning quarterback.

He's not Elway, but what are some of the positive things you learned from him?

Look, Trent knew what he was.

He didn't try to be John.

That's not what he was.

He knew where to go with the football.

He studied very, very hard.

And guys got open.

He got him to football.

That's the thing that I

love most about Trent is that he knew what he was, but he also knew what he wasn't.

Tim's bed said, I got my Shea Balaportier to celebrate my birthday on the 22nd.

Do y'all think it's time for the Cardinals to start to start thinking about making a switch at quarterback?

Because Kyler can't make it through a full season.

Small man.

When big men land on small men, things happen.

Damn.

I mean,

it's just hard to be successful.

I mean, long-term success, Ocho, Super Bowl.

I mean, Kyler's, what, 510, 200 pounds?

I think, you know, same thing with Bryce Young.

He, at least,

Kylie is kind of sturdy built.

And he fast.

What you call him?

Bryce's.

Dang it.

Brie Carter, thoughts on Brandon Graham unretiring.

They needed a pass rusher.

Z, Zadaria Smith

retired abruptly.

They thought they had a guy that could help.

Hey, I don't think they're done.

Hey, reach out to see if

the Raiders will let Max Crosby go.

Oh, that's not fair.

Did I try?

I would try.

Who else got somebody that might be, you know?

Ooh, that wouldn't be fair.

Could you imagine?

Hey, I call Cleveland.

Hey, what y'all want to do with Miles Garrett?

Y'all ain't doing nothing with him over there.

He ain't going to win.

He got his money.

He already got the contract.

Yeah, he got the contract.

Now go somewhere where you can win.

Wolf had facts up.

What is it going to take for the Ravens to come back alive?

I can't do this anymore.

Lamar Jackson is going to have to come back, and the defense is going to have to play

considerably better than what they're playing currently.

And I don't even know if that's possible, OJo.

That concludes this episode of Nightcap.

We want to thank you guys.

It's nights like this.

We really appreciate your support and stand up.

We know it's really, really late on the east coast um obviously there are people still on the east coast that's up listening and watching us we great we greatly greatly appreciate that so thank you for your support again and and and staying up as late as you did nfl you screwed us tonight

the seahawks beat the texans 2719 uh detroit beat tampa 24 to 9.

um

but hey We got to do what we got to do, Ocho.

I'm, he's Ocho.

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