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Speaker 4 Justin Herbert was 18 to 25, 227, three touchdowns, one interception.

Speaker 4 Bidal had 23 rushes, 117 yards. Herbert had seven carries for 62 yards.
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Speaker 4 He joins us a little later, but first, Ocho, the Chargers beat the Vikings.

Speaker 4 It really wasn't close.

Speaker 4 As we look at the team stats, I think the Chargers might have had 30. Oh, they had 29 first downs, the other team had 12.
Uh, nine of 13 on third downs.

Speaker 4 That's why you see the score lopsided because that means they didn't get off the field. As a matter of fact, they didn't punt,

Speaker 4 they didn't punt the football. If a team doesn't punt the football, there's a good chance you're going to get ran through.
Absolutely. Uh, 39 minutes time of possession, um, 419 total yards to 164.

Speaker 4 Everything they were three for four on in the red zone.

Speaker 4 Both teams had one turnover.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe.

Speaker 4 It was bad. It was bad on Minnesota's part.
Hey, listen,

Speaker 4 this game is representation. If you looked in the dictionary and you look for belt the ass, they would have an example of the Chargers versus the goddamn Vikings.
Wentz, listen, he didn't play bad.

Speaker 4 I don't know what's wrong with J.J. McCarthy.

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Speaker 4 They say he's hurt. I don't think he's hurt.
I think they're regretting the fact that they let Sam Darnell go, you know. And I mean, Carson West, he had it, but he had a bad game.
15 for 27, 144.

Speaker 4 They tried to get a game. I think he got sacked five times too, Ojo.
He got sacked five times. They tried to get Justin Jefferson going.
He had seven for 74.

Speaker 4 But when you can't run the ball and a team makes you one-dimensional, and all they got to do is pin their ears back and come and get you, that's why he was sacked. He was sacked five times.

Speaker 4 The Chargers needed needed this win, too.

Speaker 4 They needed this win to get the bad taste out of their mouth after losing last week to the goddamn Colts, who had been on fire all season long outside of one game.

Speaker 4 So, I mean, Justin Herbert looked good. Running game, they couldn't stop the running game.
When you

Speaker 4 couldn't stop anything,

Speaker 4 hey, when you can't stop the running game, you can only do two things, Ocho. You can either run the football or throw it.
You need to be able to stop one.

Speaker 4 Because if you can't stop either, neither one of them. Yeah, that's why the game looked like this.
Obviously, they were very efficient on third downs. And this is what you get.
You get 37 points.

Speaker 4 Hell, you say they ain't pun tonight, huh? They didn't. Well, God damn.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Hey, back.

Speaker 4 This is what Indy did to them last week. Yes.
Put belt to ass. And so it was only on a short week.
Let's get that taste out of our mouth. We're in our building.

Speaker 4 We don't want what happened last

Speaker 4 week to happen again this week. Right.
The one thing, look, Jim Harbaugh, his teams normally are ready. They're prepared.
They're a well-coached team. They got a lot of talent.

Speaker 4 The Chargers got talent.

Speaker 4 They really, they really have talent. And now they get

Speaker 4 the pass rush. What's his name? From the Raiders and the Bears.
And now he's in the Chargers. Khalil Mack.
Khalil Mack. Now you get him back collapsing the side of the pocket.
Oh, yeah.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Damn.

Speaker 4 Yep. So the Viking, Perryman, you got Henley in the middle.
You got two fast linebackers that can chase side to side. You're not going to have a whole lot of time to throw the football.

Speaker 4 They got a nice rotation.

Speaker 4 They can hunt your quarterback.

Speaker 4 Now,

Speaker 4 if you can't hold up against the, if you can't hold up against the rush, you're not going to be able to beat this team. No, you're not going to be able to beat them.

Speaker 4 You've got to hold up against their rush. I believe

Speaker 4 there's some things. Look, I understand Derwin James was back in the secondary, but I'm not

Speaker 4 like, oh, you can't throw on them, but you have to be able to hold up because they don't have to cover a long time. Right.
Because their front seven is really good.

Speaker 4 Offensively, you know, you got Keenan Allen, you got Lad McConkey, you got a gas in the second. You got guys that can make plays.
Johnson, you got guys that can really, really make plays.

Speaker 4 Justin Herbert, look,

Speaker 4 the Miami Dolphins fans are kicking him like, man, we could have had that.

Speaker 4 Yes, you could have. Yes, sir.
But your owner, your owner, this is not Brian Flores. Flores, and this is your owner.
He wanted Tua. Yeah.
Tank for a, you remember the signs on your tank for Tua.

Speaker 4 Tua, yeah.

Speaker 4 Now both of y'all tanks empty. His and y'all's.

Speaker 4 The Chargers look really good. They're five and three.
They're tied with the Broncos right now. Obviously, the Broncos have a tough matchup.
Is that game Sunday night or is that a Sunday game?

Speaker 4 The Cowboys at the Broncos?

Speaker 4 They might, they might.

Speaker 4 They need to flex it. If it's not a four o'clock at night game,

Speaker 4 I don't think you can flex the first half. It's the second half you can flex.
I think you kind of

Speaker 4 locked in. Okay, okay.
That's, that's a good one. That's that.
And I don't think, I don't think CBS, I think that's a CBS game. I don't, I don't think CBS is going to go.
Look,

Speaker 4 they only get the Cowboys maybe once, twice a year if it's a Thanksgiving Day game and CBS have the late game, you know, the 430 game.

Speaker 4 So they ain't really trying to give the Cowboys up. Now, Fox, Fox, like, hey, we could all, we all, we normally get them at four four o'clock.
Right. A 420 game.

Speaker 4 We normally get them seven, eight, nine times a year. So you take one.
Okay, we cool. CBS, like, ah, no, no, no.

Speaker 4 But I look, Minnesota, I agree with you, Ocho, but here's the thing. And, and, and we were talking, Ash and I were talking about what the 49ers did.

Speaker 4 See, it was easy for the 49ers because they put the competition up and Brock Purdy beat out Trey Lance. Yes, sir.
J.J. McCarthy was going to be the starter.
He got hurt.

Speaker 4 So we a top 10 pick

Speaker 4 and we got a guy. So are we, so what are we going to do?

Speaker 4 It's going to take at least $30 million to sign Sam Darnold. And we still got a top 10 pick that we really believe in.

Speaker 4 Minnesota, if you ask them, they're saying, considering the way Sam Darnold was played, where he played last year, and where he played,

Speaker 4 the way he's playing now.

Speaker 4 Yeah. They say we want him.
We would take him over Sam Darn. We'd take him over Carson Wentz and J.J.
McCarthy. Absolutely.
But unfortunately, you got to make a decision. You got to make a decision.

Speaker 4 Are you really trying to bring Sam Darnall back on a three-year, $100 million deal? And you've got a guy that you took with a top 10 pick on your bench.

Speaker 4 Hold on. I mean,

Speaker 4 I'd rather not guess. I'd rather go with what I know I'm getting.

Speaker 4 as opposed to i'm unsure but we picked him at a certain slot and we basically started over so it's a toss-up because you never know what you're gonna get i really think i i mean honestly i don't know what type of injury it may be but i think he's healthy and they just don't want to go back to him they want carson went they want him to sit there and learn for another year

Speaker 4 on the sideline well if that's the case you should have signed you should have signed you should have signed sam darno i mean

Speaker 4 But here's the thing, Ocho. Okay.
Let's just say for the sake of argument, what you're saying is correct. He sits two years.
He plays his third year. You're going to have to do like Jordan Love.

Speaker 4 you're gonna have to make a 50 million dollar investment oh yeah

Speaker 4 are you are you gonna be comfortable making that decision because uh jordan love really put the pressure on him considering the way he played in that third year yes

Speaker 4 so jj mccarthy would have had to put the pressure on him i mean that's hindsight that's a magnificent signs now but

Speaker 4 that's a tough that's tough when you take select a quarterback so high You get a guy and he's playing really well and you don't want to take him out.

Speaker 4 Now, it was easy for sam darno to keep playing because jj mccarthy was done for the year right it would have been interesting to see had he not gotten hurt i believe i believe jj mccarthy was going to start

Speaker 4 i think they had sam darner as an insurance part as a backup as an insurance policy if something you know if he struggled oh yo we ain't got no problem we got a veteran guy we bring him in

Speaker 4 But he got hurt so early.

Speaker 4 Honestly, to tell you the truth, with the way Sam Donnell played last year, with the way he's playing this year, I'm not sure J.J. McCarthy would have beat him out.

Speaker 4 I'm not sure.

Speaker 4 I agree. I agree.
I mean, listen,

Speaker 4 they saw something we didn't see because he mainly ran the football. They were mainly a running team under Harbaugh.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 for them to be sold that, okay, he can throw the football.

Speaker 4 And look, I saw what he did against the Bears open tonight. He played well.
He came out in the second half and he played extremely well.

Speaker 4 But I agree with you. I think they really wanted Carson Wentz to play well and keep the job.
But unfortunately, his offensive line is not doing very well. He makes his mind up.
Man, he tried to run.

Speaker 4 They tried to throw a wheel route to Jones. The shallow cross came scot ass-free.
Yeah, scot-free. Yeah.
Yeah, I saw it.

Speaker 4 Because you see what happens when that happens, and you miss throws like that, Ocho, you've made your mind up. When you broke the huddle, I'm throwing this wheel route.
No matter what.

Speaker 4 And what you should have done, if I catch that Mike Backer, who has to run with the wheel, if i catch him napping i'm gonna throw the wheel otherwise i'm gonna go through the progression i don't know who it was i don't know if it was addison but i think they ended up getting a touchdown anyway he ran the shallow he was wide ass open yeah

Speaker 4 he was basically streaking i mean they don't do that anymore like they used to in the 70s and 80s it was a big thing you know streaking at sporting events yeah

Speaker 4 But I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't get it. I don't, I don't get it.
I thought Minnesota kind of revamped the offensive line.

Speaker 4 Khalil Mack took the left tackle one time and just sat him in Wentz's lap. They were just like, I mean, every time I turn around, like, oh, it was pressured him.
He was running.

Speaker 4 He's, you know, he gets flustered and then his head is down and he's not looking down the field. Yeah.

Speaker 4 He was frustrated. I mean,

Speaker 4 he let his emotion get the best of him. I mean, obviously, you're showing, you're showing passion.
You're frustrated. You're getting hit.
You're hurting.

Speaker 4 Your elbow messed up and you're getting sacked. I mean, five times.
So he allowed his frustration to show on the sideline. And listen, they're going to be all right.

Speaker 4 You know, Brian Flores and that defense, obviously, they didn't look to par tonight, but they're not gonna look like this every game, they're not gonna look like this every game.

Speaker 4 They're back to the drawing board, and we know what a Brian Flores defense can do. Just tonight wasn't their night.
Hell, the other, listen, the Chargers get paid too.

Speaker 4 Well, we got to get some help, Ocho.

Speaker 4 Can the offense stay on the field? That, yeah,

Speaker 4 because if you go after they score, if you kick the ball off and you go three and out and put us right back on the field, what the hell do you expect to happen? Right.

Speaker 4 We need you to take a look. Hey, Hey, give us a break, bro.
Hey, hey, offense, hold on to the ball a little bit. Let us get some water.
Hey, soon as I offer the defense, you are

Speaker 4 up.

Speaker 4 We just came out, got over here. Yeah,

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 we'll see what see where it's going because that uh, you got Detroit in that division, and you got Green Bay, and Chicago don't look like no slouch. No, and Chicago is already beating you.

Speaker 4 Yeah, they bowling now, the bears bowling.

Speaker 4 So, when you look at it, Ocho, and you look at what

Speaker 4 they did last year, what they were 14 and three,

Speaker 4 and right now they're three and four. So they're not winning, they're not winning, you know, nine straight games, 10 straight games.
They're not winning 10 games, they're going 13 and 4.

Speaker 4 So I'm sure Minnesota fans like, man, we should have just, we should have just went ahead and kept Sam Darnel.

Speaker 4 And plus, Ocho,

Speaker 4 three year, $100 million deal, that's manageable.

Speaker 4 I didn't have to give him $40 or $50.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 that's a family discount. What you talking about? Yes, it is.

Speaker 4 So it's going to be.

Speaker 4 I mean, Vikings, Vikings beat the Bears. The Bears were winning.
The Bears were winning in the first half. And then JJ McCarthy had that outstanding second half.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 the Bears are a different team than when the Vikings faced them opening date.

Speaker 4 I think we could all agree to that. Look, that's a division game.
NFC North, Green Bay, Detroit, Chicago, and Minnesota. They play each other.
They're very familiar with each other.

Speaker 4 But Chicago is a different team now. That's not the team that y'all played opening night.
And we know what Detroit is. Detroit is Detroit.

Speaker 4 And once they start getting their guys back healthy,

Speaker 4 it's only going to get, look, offensive, they're healthy. It's when they start getting those defensive guys back.

Speaker 4 The Kirby Joseph,

Speaker 4 the Arnold. When they start the Brian Branch, he'll be back.
He had a suspension.

Speaker 4 Once they start getting those guys back,

Speaker 4 Green Bay is Green Bay.

Speaker 4 If y'all couldn't keep the Chargers off y'all ass, good luck keeping Micah and

Speaker 4 Rashawn Gary

Speaker 4 and those guys off you. Good luck with that.

Speaker 4 Good luck. That's going to be a good one.

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This information was sold to others so they could also profit.

Speaker 4 There was a $259,000 that was wagered on Rogier by a group of people with inside information according to the indictment. Rogier played under 10 minutes in the game.

Speaker 4 Billops took part in a rigged poker game in Manhattan, according to the FBI.

Speaker 4 How do you rig a poker game? Well, Ocho, according, they had X-ray machines built in the tables. So when you lay the cards face down, I can see what your whole cards are.
So now

Speaker 4 I can play. Contact lenses through glass that read marked cards.
So you know, oh, that's an ace, that's a this, that's That's a cat.

Speaker 4 Secret cameras in card trades. Billips is also alleged to have provided insider information on the Trailblazers injury while team was tanking at the end of 2023 season.

Speaker 4 Former NBA player Damon Jones was also arrested. Jones sold information on the Lakers game so others could bet on it.

Speaker 4 According to the indictment, Jones is a close friend of LeBron James, who did not play in the game in question.

Speaker 4 The Lakers were named in the investigation during the press conference each defendant in the nba gambling case has been charged with conspiracy to commit wire fraud and conspiracy to commit money laundering

Speaker 4 hey uh man listen man boy this this is this is big on this is huge this is ginormous listen this is like an episode of law and order you hear me for one okay i understand the gambling part but what grabs me what grabs my attention is the fact that the mafia is still prevalent in today's society Not

Speaker 4 New York. Oh, listen, I know they ain't never went nowhere, right? But they're never visible.
Their presence, as opposed to the 70s and 80s, that's what the real mob does. They're not flashy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they have

Speaker 4 reputable businesses. Yeah, they have trucking and they have cement companies and they have delivery services.
So they have legitimate businesses to hide behind the other things.

Speaker 4 See, and people ask, Why do this is why the NFL and the NBA puts out all injury reports okay so therefore

Speaker 4 because if they didn't put it out and guess what people know i can get parts that information and it would have looked like that what happened in the damon jones situation he gave them the information before it came out so they bet before everybody else knew lebron james is a scratch They had already got the money.

Speaker 4 So now the line is going to come down. They already got in on the other.

Speaker 4 It's just, oh, let me tell you a story. Go ahead, go ahead, go ahead, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me, let me get comfortable now because your stories be good.
This, okay, go ahead.

Speaker 4 This is why I stopped going to going. We used to have the same thing.
We had a, we had a, we had to play craps. Yeah.
Go every Monday night. We would go.
At first, it was just guys on the team.

Speaker 4 Yes, sir. Former player that was that everybody knew.
I knew him a long time. Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 And so we would go over there, we would roll dice. Everybody, month's friend, you know, we led somebody money.

Speaker 4 The thing was, I i wouldn't lend you money so you can bet against me what i look like giving you a thousand dollars and then you're gonna fade me right right right right you gonna fade me with my own money no that's not gonna happen but anyway okay

Speaker 4 they started letting other people come in uh-oh strange other people come came in because we didn't care hey break at first we used to have like 10 packs of 10 packs of dice and sometimes hey you get hot on the dice you keep the dice for like five ten minutes, and you put the dice in your pocket.

Speaker 4 So, hey, man, these are my special dice, I don't want nobody else to touch these, right? Right, right. Well, lo and behold, we they let other people they start letting other people come in.

Speaker 4 I'm like, But who are you? Man, I know such and such. Oh, Lord, who vouched for this? Hold on, don't tell me they came in there with some damn trick dice, huh?

Speaker 4 Man, they came in there with them crooks, which are loaded dice.

Speaker 4 And the thing was, Ocho,

Speaker 4 the hardest, the hardest points on the dice to hit is 10 and 4 because there's only two ways you can can make it. Yes, sir.
You can make it 5-5 or you can make it 6-4.

Speaker 4 The same thing with four. You get 3-1, you get 2-2.

Speaker 4 You get flowers, or you get Lil Joe Cochromo. So that's it.

Speaker 4 Man, that Joker throw them dice. It rolled 10.
So you know, A. So you know, A.
Everybody go jump on that 10. You ain't finna hit that 10.
10, hey.

Speaker 4 I'm gonna tell you something. I don't know, Chad, if y'all ever gambled before, but if you want to break up a dice game, hit 10 or 4.

Speaker 4 I done saw cars don't exchange hands, I done saw a lot of ish happen with that 10 or 4. Come on, now, but anyway,

Speaker 4 he came out, he hit 10. So, you know, everybody jump on it.
Hey, you know, jump on it with both feet, too. Ah, you ain't finna hit that, right?

Speaker 4 So he took a cool two 200, 200 off me, you know. Yeah, yeah, damn.
I said, let me come back, let me come back. He rolled a four.

Speaker 4 Oh, back to back.

Speaker 4 He rolled a 10. He kicked the 10.

Speaker 4 Ocho, the end was hitting it out the door.

Speaker 4 So I say, what the?

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 I only go over there with like 2,000, 2,500. Right, right, right.
Right.

Speaker 4 The dice game up, hit for about 30.

Speaker 4 What, 30, what?

Speaker 4 30, 30 bands. You got to realize it's like 15, 20 of us sitting there.
We all NFL players. So we all got brand.
Or guys would go to the ATM and get money and come back. Oh, hey, hey, y'all.

Speaker 4 Something was up, man.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe. Didn't know.
So

Speaker 4 I told my homeboy, Burns, he had gone out of town because at the time, Michelle was in Virginia. So bye week, you know, not a bye week, but he would go home.

Speaker 4 So he would leave that Monday, go home, stay Monday night, come back Tuesday. Because a lot of times we didn't have, pray, we win, we didn't have no meeting, we didn't have anything.

Speaker 4 Just get back Wednesday. Right, right, right.

Speaker 4 As a matter of fact, he was catching the red. I get home early Monday morning.
But anyway, I told him, I said, man, Bernie, ain't gonna bleed this. I said, dude, broke the game up.
He said, what?

Speaker 4 He said, what he was hitting? I said, dude, we had a dude named Reggie, Reggie Hayward. He broke the game up.
He had the dice for like an hour.

Speaker 4 I ain't never seen nobody get that hot, but it was legit. He had the dice for an hour.
Every point on the dice he hit. He was seven out the door.
You hit a

Speaker 4 luge, hey, that 4-5. Hey, he was talking about born in 54, died in 63.
What's my point? Nah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 4 I hit it. Yeah.

Speaker 4 What Jesse James carried? 45.

Speaker 4 I laughed him. Hey,

Speaker 4 hey,

Speaker 4 he rolled for Emmin Smith

Speaker 4 out the door. Stayed on the dice for an hour.
I see Burns, oh boy, 10 of four, had the dice just like that. Yeah.

Speaker 4 The next week, the guy house that he was at was at he was rolling dice had two grand out there had it he everybody had it

Speaker 4 he crapped out he picked the dice up yeah and threw them

Speaker 4 they split open uh oh

Speaker 4 now you can see where the weight was

Speaker 4 so I go I don't hear about this till the next so this is on Monday yeah they start calling me man sharp, you ain't gonna believe this. I said, what? Man,

Speaker 4 man, boy, had crooks.

Speaker 4 I said, he had to weigh the dice. Like, yeah, man.

Speaker 4 What you think we should do? I said, I don't know what y'all gonna do. I ain't gonna do nothing because I'm gonna go to jail.

Speaker 4 So I said, look, I'm done. From that point on, I said, I'm done.
I told Birds, I said, Birds, if you want to go, he like, you ain't going, I ain't going. Right.

Speaker 4 But anyway, and I started, look, boy, look here. I started to get the dude that vouched for him.
And I knew him, but he, we've been cool. You vouch for him.
You vouch for him. You got the cover.

Speaker 4 But anyway, dude done brought a brand new, brought a brand new maximum, kitted it out.

Speaker 4 Hey, new gear.

Speaker 4 That's what stopped me from doing. That's what stopped me from doing the house game.
Right. I got, first of all, it's got to be.
like us. It got to be us.
Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. No,

Speaker 4 it's all, I ain't talking about no harmboy. I'm sorry.
No. I'm sorry.
i'm sorry ocho your homeboy your homeboy can't play right

Speaker 4 everybody me you xyz we nfl player boo i believe we're gonna be on the up and up but somebody come to the game they know it they know it's in money gonna be there yeah gonna come in and cheat yeah card game the same thing that's what happened with the online poker yeah guy so had had the online poker he had he had the uh uh uh

Speaker 4 you know it's a uh uh what they call it

Speaker 4 but anyway he's he he they could see your cards Right.

Speaker 4 So he's crazy. Technology is so advanced.
Listen, the part that scared me, I understand Chauncey in trouble. I understand Damon Jones in trouble.
I understand Terry Roger. For one, I'm not risking it.

Speaker 4 I'm not risking the position that I'm in.

Speaker 4 But you don't believe you're risking it, huh? Think about it. A lot of this stuff happened in 23.
It's 25. Oh, Joe, you know,

Speaker 4 what criminal you know make a score and said, I'm done. I quit.
Wait, you can't, but you understand. When the FBI get a hold of you you and that, the FBI, they watching for you.
They don't let it run.

Speaker 4 They got to wait till they get you. Oh,

Speaker 4 I can't get you with one charge.

Speaker 4 You're a first timer. You're going to get off.
I got to get you deep. I got to make sure the hook is set.
Yeah, it got to bill up. It got to bill up.
This is a scary. You know how to fish, right?

Speaker 4 You got to set the hook. Cause if you don't set it right, a big one is going to get away.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. But this is the part that scared me, though, right?

Speaker 4 Like understanding, understanding, okay, I understand the gambling part. It's the part about being part of the mafia, being entangled into it.
Man, look, that's a no-no for me right there off back.

Speaker 4 I done seen the Sopranos, yeah? Yes. I done seen goodfellas.
I know it's a depiction of

Speaker 4 a fictional story, maybe, but that's real life. Yeah.

Speaker 4 I'm thinking about extortment. I'm thinking about once you tied into them, man, that's you.
Now you got a point shave. Now you got to feed them information.

Speaker 4 What I hate most, look, and I know, listen, I know Chauncey Billows since he was in high school. He went to G-Dub in Denver, Colorado, which was about a mile from where I was staying.

Speaker 4 I used to stay in the Breakers. Anybody from Denver know exactly where the Breakers are on Mississippi and where and uh uh and where um G-Dub is.

Speaker 4 There's a car wash, used to be a Sterling car wash right across the street. Chauncey Billows went to G-Dub, he was sensational, sensational, three-time Mr.
Basketball, all state, all year.

Speaker 4 So we get that, and so I feel bad for Chauncey. Uh, uh, And I hope, I hope

Speaker 4 this is what they suggest. But my thing is, and I hope this is just,

Speaker 4 but Damon Jones, do everybody knows what LeBron goes through

Speaker 4 to try to make sure he has no stain.

Speaker 4 Because what did they put in the paper?

Speaker 4 They put LeBron James.

Speaker 4 This man is doing everything he possibly could to keep his nose clean, to make sure he doesn't have the people. Look, Maverick, he grew up with.
Rich, he met at a very young age.

Speaker 4 Randy, he grew up with. So he insulated himself.
LeBron don't have a whole lot of close friends. You see him, you're going to always see Randy.
Randy is his chief of staff. Rich is his agent.

Speaker 4 Obviously, Maverick handles all the other business inquiries.

Speaker 4 You put this man on the spot.

Speaker 4 Because it's a legend that you sold information that LeBron is not going to play before it became public knowledge.

Speaker 4 And they say they have a text message or something between the two.

Speaker 4 I just, I just hate. I just hate.
And obviously, the funny thing about that, LeBron doesn't know. I mean, them exchanging messages, him letting them know, that's like me texting you,

Speaker 4 we finna play the Raiders, but I'm not playing. Like, that's no harm, no foul on LeBron's part because he had no idea what's going on.
Exactly. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, but, but the one thing, and what I was talking about, about them being, dealing, dealing with the mafia, you understanding these people these people have no regard for life no once you in business with them that means you got the always

Speaker 4 once they got the hooks in you i need all the answers i need who's playing who's coming out what's the scoreline gonna be and what happened when you get it wrong what happened when you mess up what happened when

Speaker 4 when you you you you place a bet you give them certain information and it doesn't come out the way it should and they lose money well all of a sudden you say he's not gonna play then all of a sudden he he plays he'll game time and he ends up playing.

Speaker 4 Hold on. What about this? Once you end, once you end with them like that, what about, you know, what I don't want to do this no more.
I don't want to do it. They know I'm not going to do it no more.

Speaker 4 And it's reported that

Speaker 4 he got $2,500.

Speaker 4 So on a $50,000 bet, I think it was a $50,000 bet. Wasn't it a $50,000 bet? How much was it?

Speaker 4 It was over $100,000. They gave you $2,500.

Speaker 4 Hold on. They didn't even give you 10%.

Speaker 4 They gave you 2%.

Speaker 4 What the hell am I going to do with that?

Speaker 4 Hey, oh, Joe. Yeah.
If it's 2 billion,

Speaker 4 I'll take 2%,

Speaker 4 but not no damn 100,000. Nah, absolutely not.
I just, oh, man.

Speaker 4 Absolutely not. Hey, hey, listen, I understand the gambling part, right? And the gambling part to me, because I've been in that lifestyle.
I don't gamble. Y'all know my cheap ass don't gamble.

Speaker 4 I'm saying I've just been in that world for so long and seen so many people gamble for the past 30 years. The part that is, that has me stunned and is amazed is, boy, you dealing with the

Speaker 4 mafia. Like, I think, I think people just like letting it go and they,

Speaker 4 hell, though, they reached Damon Jones,

Speaker 4 Chauncey, and goddamn Terry Rogia is the only ones that's on the goddamn news. Well, where's everybody else? What the other 30s? There ain't no names.

Speaker 4 I gotta give you one.

Speaker 4 Oh, Joe, let me ask you a question. When the last last time you see somebody post a fish that was this big,

Speaker 4 they post the trophy fish. Yeah.

Speaker 4 They're the trophies.

Speaker 5 Yeah.

Speaker 4 So now

Speaker 4 you lose your job. You lose your career.
But you know, they're still going to be making their money, huh? Oh, yeah, they ain't going to.

Speaker 4 You know, you know, it's not going to stop. No, absolutely not.

Speaker 4 Bro, look here.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I used to gamble. I did.
I mean, I used to come to Vegas and gamble. I gamble on the plane.
We played, you know, we used to play tonk and we used to play

Speaker 4 in between.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Pots get up to $5,000, $10,000, $20,000, $30,000.

Speaker 4 American money? Yes. Man, boy, y'all, man, y'all tripping, man.
Man, look, I took a call for a guy. I felt bad for him because I know if he had to go home, he's going to get a divorce.

Speaker 4 He had a resto, a Chevelle, $454. Right.

Speaker 4 Black.

Speaker 4 Beautiful. You took the pink slip.

Speaker 4 I said, man, give me three grand. Call of the day.

Speaker 4 Y'all were betting card pink slips.

Speaker 4 Hey, he got up. He got in the hole.
And that's what happens, oh, Joe. Oh, he was in the hole.
Hold on. There was a story out here about a dude named, I think his name was Jeffrey Wantanabe.

Speaker 4 Lost $204 million.

Speaker 4 Lost his family fortune.

Speaker 4 Read it. Go read about it.

Speaker 4 200.

Speaker 4 Go read about it. Hey, chat.

Speaker 4 No, his name was Terrence. I think his name was Terrence Wantanabe.

Speaker 4 Hey, chat, somebody send that to my Instagrams

Speaker 4 on my Twitter, please. I got to read that.

Speaker 4 How do you lose? Did you see the movie The Gambler? Yes.

Speaker 4 Yes. Like, I didn't know people had issues like that where they're addicted to gambling.

Speaker 4 Like, how do you lose gambling? Yeah. Alcohol, drugs? Yes.
It's an addiction. It's an endorphins.
It's a high. It's a rush.
do you you lose 250 000 you go to the shark and ask for more money

Speaker 4 to oh hold on read that aloud say what it was ash 240 million dollars 240

Speaker 4 240 million yes at what point do you say stop or what point do you say no

Speaker 4 Unc, I lose $20. I'm going to lose my mind.
And they're saying at some point he was up, so it's actually, he actually lost $250. Yeah, he was up.
But see, here's the thing, Ocho. Same thing.

Speaker 4 There was a guy named Arnie at the Binions.

Speaker 4 He was up. He was up 50 million, lost it all back.
He had every $5,000 chip that was in the hotel.

Speaker 4 The hotel used to have the casino, you got to come to his room and get the chips because he had them all.

Speaker 4 He lost it all.

Speaker 4 You know what?

Speaker 4 I don't understand. I just,

Speaker 4 I can't grasp the concept. I understand gambling.
Listen, I really can't can't talk now, because

Speaker 4 I just started playing a little blackjack myself. Every time I go to Vegas, I don't go to Vegas often, but I go to the blackjack table.
You know how much I spend?

Speaker 4 I take

Speaker 4 $200 out of ATM. I pay the $25 hands.

Speaker 4 When that $200 is gone, man, I'm hurting.

Speaker 4 And it's only $200. And now you saying these extraordinary numbers.
How the hell you lose $240 million? Because when you get down, you try to get it back. Because let me tell you how it happens.

Speaker 4 Okay, I lose 50. Hey, I I lose 50.
I'm going to bet 100 to try to get it back. Now I'm down 150.
So guess what I got to do, Ocho? I'm going to bet 200 because I'm going to get all three.

Speaker 4 I'm going to get the two hands that I lost and I'm going to be plus 50.

Speaker 4 And before you know it, now you're betting 25,000, 50,000, 100,000 a hand. So how long will it take you? Because if you go on a rush, you go on a run,

Speaker 4 you could bet. Hey, go back and look.
I think it was the MGM.

Speaker 4 Carrie Packard, what was his daddy name?

Speaker 4 Packard. He was an Australian billionaire.

Speaker 4 Go read about what he, what he did to the MGM and how he wrecked their quarterly reports.

Speaker 4 He wrecked it?

Speaker 4 Yes.

Speaker 4 When he won, he went on the run. He won.
Yes. Big time?

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 that was serving him, she was bringing him, you know, his smoothies or water, whatever it was. Right.
Go get your mortgage. I'm going to pay it off for you

Speaker 4 oh he was talking spicy

Speaker 4 he did it

Speaker 4 carrie packard is the is

Speaker 4 carry packard yeah

Speaker 4 yes

Speaker 4 dm gm

Speaker 4 read about it oh i know all the stories hey Listen, gambling, gambling is an addiction, huh? Absolutely it is. And listen, a lot of people say, oh, stop stop acting naive.

Speaker 4 See, there's certain things that I don't know about. There's certain things that I don't know about because

Speaker 4 it never sparked my interest. That's not something that I've that I like.
It ain't like soccer. I can take my, I can talk about boxing, I can talk about tennis, but but gambling, hello.

Speaker 4 What do you call them? I just thought, I just started playing blackjack this year.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah. Oh, he was a whale.
Those are what they call whales. What was the guy who used to be a penthouse? Uh, What was the guy on penthouse?

Speaker 4 He was in the wheelchair. Oh,

Speaker 4 damn. I forgot his name.

Speaker 4 I met him one time.

Speaker 4 He owned Hustler. Yes, yes, yes.
Damn, I forgot his name.

Speaker 4 I met him in LA.

Speaker 4 He passed away. He was a whale.

Speaker 4 Larry Flint. Yeah, Mr.
Flint. That's right.

Speaker 4 Yep. But Ocho, the thing is, is that, look, I played a couple of hands, and you know, hey, you know, I pay.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey, hey, how much you, how much you were betting? I don't mean to be in your business, but

Speaker 4 I'm going to tell you the story, Ocho, we was at the Rio. Uh-huh.
We was at the Rio. Okay.

Speaker 4 And it was me,

Speaker 4 seven,

Speaker 4 30, 53, and crock pot. It was us.
Yeah. So

Speaker 4 we was playing.

Speaker 4 So I had like 25,000 on me.

Speaker 4 John, John was playing. John was, so I had, you know, I've won and he was playing.
So he got a card, he split. So he got, so he split them.
Then it was another of the same cards. He split that.

Speaker 4 We had about, he had about six cards that were split, and then he ended up doubling down. We had like 40,000 on the table.

Speaker 4 And the dealer bust. He took all mine.
Cause if

Speaker 4 the dealer would have hit all my little 25,000 was gone, he'd like, give me your money. I'm like, whoa, whoa, hold on.
He's about to give you my money. What kind of bull job is this?

Speaker 4 But we won. But it's a oach, oh, you ain't nothing like it.
It's nothing like sitting there and you played $5,000 or $10,000 a hand, and then

Speaker 4 you get blackjack. Oh, you get

Speaker 4 what gets scary, oh, you're what gets scary, Ocho, is that when you get a double-down hand and you got the 5,000 or you got 10,000 on the wood, Yeah.

Speaker 4 Now, when you got a double dam, when you got a double down hand, you got 10,000 on the wood. What that mean? You double your money? You doubling it.
So you got to put 10,000, 10 more with it.

Speaker 4 Nah. Double it.

Speaker 4 Or you split it. You got to put 10.
Yes, what happens, Ocho? You get a double down hand. Yeah.
You get a split. You get a split hand.
So

Speaker 4 you get a pair of eights or a pair of nines against a seven or below yeah you're gonna split them now you get a three a two or three now you doubling that so now that's 20 000.

Speaker 4 now you get this head you get a split you get a double now you double that

Speaker 4 20 20

Speaker 4 30 40. that's 40 000 on the wood yeah

Speaker 4 it ain't worth it

Speaker 4 are you hear me it ain't worth it because i want i'm thinking about the loss i'm thinking about the loss you can't think like that so you can't go to the table because you can't look at the chips as money, you look at them as objects.

Speaker 4 The moment you look at them as money, get up from the table. Hey, for one, for one, unless you make the kind of revenue and you have disposable income, your ass shouldn't be gambling no way.

Speaker 4 Yeah, unless you have disposable income. I don't care, NFL players, I don't care how much I don't care if you got a 50-80 million dollar contract.

Speaker 4 Your ass shouldn't be at no goddamn crap table or playing blackjack or no

Speaker 4 rotisserie or none of that.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 what's the one going to circle again? What it's called? That's roulette. I'm talking about rotisserie.
I'm talking about roulette.

Speaker 4 That's a league. That's a gambling league.
But anyway, I know what you meant. And plus, the new thing now is Baccarat.

Speaker 4 Read the Phil Ivey story.

Speaker 4 Phil Ivey, famous. I know that name.
I know

Speaker 4 he'll poker player. I know his name.

Speaker 4 But

Speaker 4 they went overseas, him and

Speaker 4 a Chinese lady. Yes, sir.

Speaker 4 Read about that story. It's good or bad.

Speaker 4 It's bad. Well, he won, but they fought because the lady could count cards.

Speaker 4 She could see the imperfections.

Speaker 4 But, oh, that gambling man is a ocho. Why do you think people be watching these games? You think they really be liking these teams? Some people do.
I got fantasy and I got real money.

Speaker 4 You messing up my parlay. That's why they call you the N-word.
That's why they could say you suck. That's why they say you worse than Hitler.
Bro, you lost me my money what the

Speaker 4 hey if you can't stand to lose your money you don't bet

Speaker 4 you don't you don't bet but you suck

Speaker 4 man i'm telling you oh joke

Speaker 4 hey but hey that's hey that's that's fascinating it's fascinating hearing the stories now yeah it's fascinating but i can't put myself in position to put my money where i have no control over whether I win or lose.

Speaker 4 I don't want to, the house don't let you in. I done heard enough horror stories to stay away from it.

Speaker 4 You got to be able to see the thing, the reason why the house wins so much, they can weather the storm. Because guess what, Ocho? If you start winning too much, they'll ask you to leave.

Speaker 4 Okay, that's enough, Mr. That's enough, Mr.
Johnson. No, what? What? No,

Speaker 4 we think

Speaker 4 you've done enough for tonight.

Speaker 4 The question is,

Speaker 4 when you win, can you get up on your own and leave?

Speaker 4 Because they don't usher you to, when you're losing, they don't ask you to leave.

Speaker 4 Can you ask yourself to leave when you lose, when you start, can you leave when you start to lose? Man, listen. This, oh Joe, this is what happened.
Excuse me. This is what happens.

Speaker 4 In the gaming space. Yes.

Speaker 4 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 4 Hey, can you imagine? How do you even... I'm still stuck on the mafia part.
Because

Speaker 4 I understand how that can end.

Speaker 4 You're not just putting your life in jeopardy.

Speaker 4 Yeah, everybody gets close to you.

Speaker 4 They play for Keith, man. Hey, man, I ain't got, man, who? What?

Speaker 4 You know,

Speaker 4 there's a certain, excuse me. We speaking of gambling.
Now, excuse my lack of knowledge. I might be wrong.
The greatest player, the greatest basketball player of all time. Yes.
If I'm not mistaken.

Speaker 4 Second greatest, but okay. Yeah, he's a big gambler.
Yes. Yes.
He liked to play. Yes.
Yes. Now, if now, you see where I'm going? I'm trying not to say it without saying it.

Speaker 4 You lost someone very close to him.

Speaker 4 But everybody know, but the thing is, there are a lot of people that lost because they sit next to him and feel they got the gamble as much as him. He the logo.

Speaker 4 He ain't got to play no more basketball. And he's still going to get, he going to get, you know, 300, 400 million.

Speaker 4 And he ain't dripped when the last time michael jordan dribbled a basketball no but see you not understand what i'm saying didn't he lose somebody closest to him yes based on okay so you get where i'm going with it yes okay see i don't know that's what that's what the reports believe that had it had something to do with that exactly which is why i don't understand how chauncey and damon and terry would even yo you what you part of who gambino who no i'm good i'm good i'm not good i'm good

Speaker 4 i can't help you with none of that information

Speaker 4 because in the minute it don't go right and you can't get get to me, you're going to the next closest thing to me.

Speaker 4 I don't want that.

Speaker 4 So that's, you know,

Speaker 4 and reportedly, the NBA investigated Terry Roger and cleared him.

Speaker 4 That's the problem that you got. Yeah.
They investigated him last year, Ocho. We briefly touched on this.

Speaker 4 And they cleared him. Now you see why the NFL, see, see, that's why you can't do it, Ocho.

Speaker 4 Because guess what?

Speaker 4 These gaming companies, they want to be able to bet with the NFL and MLB. So they're going to turn you in.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. They're going to turn you in.
Because, hold on, wait a minute.

Speaker 4 He's just a guy. And why are we getting all these props bet coming in on him? And he just, oh, no.

Speaker 4 They'll pull it off the board. Man, please.

Speaker 4 Goddamn.

Speaker 4 Look.

Speaker 4 in situations like this ocho you got to just take your medicine and and and and and and i i just i i hope it's not true i i look i don't really know i don't really know anybody but chant

Speaker 4 the fbi does not come and get you until they have enough evidence to convict you

Speaker 4 well i can hope ojo damn

Speaker 4 you know hope the people in the people in hell hope they can get some goddamn ice water is it coming absolutely not

Speaker 4 I'm hoping.

Speaker 4 Well, you know what? I'm going to hope with you.

Speaker 4 I just, you know, Ocho, I'm just saying,

Speaker 4 in a situation like this, you don't think,

Speaker 4 you don't think, Ocho, you know how we're wired. We think we're invincible.

Speaker 4 Because think about, oh, you're this was 2023 when this was going on. It's 25.
Oh, you're done. Forgot about that.

Speaker 4 Oh, no, they don't forget about nothing now.

Speaker 4 yeah you know oh you're you remember your grandma your mama said boy i'm gonna my grandmother said boy i'm gonna tear your tail up when you get home about two three hours go by oh she'd have forgot about that yeah the next thing you know she's shutting down on you why walk why stop

Speaker 4 so

Speaker 4 bad

Speaker 4 i just boy this is this is

Speaker 4 boy they about to get they about to get real real real

Speaker 4 but strict but that but that no but that's that's the problem that's why you see these fans when when their team, man, what the first thing they say, man, you messed up my parlay

Speaker 4 you messed up my fantasy, yeah, my yeah, yeah, but I'm not thinking about your fantasy, I'm thinking about I lost us the game, yeah, they worry about that fantasy, they worry about that money, yeah,

Speaker 4 that's it, that's messed up, man.

Speaker 4 And then they don't pull Gil into there, they talk about Gil done dying people out.

Speaker 4 I think it was Rachel Nicholas that put it out there, like, I like, well, damn, Rachel, I hope you got some concrete, solid evidence.

Speaker 4 Yeah, I think Gil addressed it earlier, earlier.

Speaker 4 Yes, but for illegal, illegal poker, illegal gambling. I think the thing is, Ocho, and see, this

Speaker 4 is what lead people to believe. See, I told you the NBA was rigged.
I told you this was rigged.

Speaker 4 See?

Speaker 4 Hey, listen, you can't say the NBA or the NFL is rigged when a small, I'm talking about a very small percentage, very small percentage of people get in trouble like this.

Speaker 4 Very, very, very small.

Speaker 4 Hold on, you remember that Shohay Otani story? His interpreter, 20 million.

Speaker 4 And some of that was funneled through Resorts World.

Speaker 4 Hey, but hey, that's a different leap.

Speaker 4 20.

Speaker 4 Hey.

Speaker 4 But I tell you, man, when I tell you one thing, my grandma always said.

Speaker 4 My grandma always told me, boy, a fool and his money

Speaker 4 shall soon part ways. And that shit there, I mean, excuse me, I don't mean a curse.

Speaker 4 It has stuck with me through a lifetime where I understand I can have a little fun, but I know where to draw the line.

Speaker 4 I understand there are addictions in the world, whether it be alcohol, whether it be drugs, whether it be gambling. I mean, whether it be horizontal activity, you know.

Speaker 4 Gambling is one thing I've never never done now i'm enjoying and having some fun with it with a 200 limit only blackjack because it's just me and the dealer and the people that sit down with me they can help me understand the game and whether to hit or to stay that's it once i lose that 200 you need to learn how to play yourself because they're like oh would you like to play i say well i ain't finna play with my money if you want to give me some of this house money and let me learn how to play.

Speaker 4 I'm not learning how to play nothing with my money. I'm going to know when I sit my black ass down.
I'm going to know how to play.

Speaker 4 And especially if you had the blackjack table and you play in third base, boy, you mess up everybody hanging.

Speaker 4 I'm definitely not letting you play third base. Yeah.

Speaker 4 But Ocho, you know, look, we gamble by everything because, see, in the, in the league, it's really, it's really not about the money. We bet obscure thing.

Speaker 4 Like I say, I'm going to bet you, I'm going to bet you $5,000 in pennies. I don't want your money.
I want your pride.

Speaker 4 Everybody got money in the league. Yeah.
Some might not have as much as others, but I want you to go to the bank. I want you to go up to the cashier and hey, take your debit card if you got one.

Speaker 4 And when that lady asks you, say, what are you going to do with $10,000 in dimes? Or what do you need

Speaker 4 $12,000 in Susan B. Anthony dollars for?

Speaker 4 You tell them, I lost a bet to Shannon Sharp. That's what I want.
I want you to blurt that out.

Speaker 4 It ain't about the,

Speaker 4 I can eat that. I don't care nothing about no $5,000.
I want you to take your ass to the bank and tell that cashier that you got to get $10,000 in dimes. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And y'all don't know if y'all noticed, but y'all don't know how heavy coins are when you're getting that amount of money.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Man, come on, shuck, man. Here's two.
I don't want it. The bet was $200 in quarters.
It wasn't no $200 in bills. So take your ass to the bank.
So I ain't taking it. I say, I don't know what that is.

Speaker 4 swooped the money out of my locker. I don't want that.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Man, God. quarters, yeah, Susan B.
Anthony's, I want Susan B. Anthony's, I want them sack of your wheels.
Hey, you know what?

Speaker 4 I tell you what, give me a thousand dollars of Sackage Wheel, them gold, them gold dollar coin. That's what I want, man.
Chip shop, man. You know, I can't find.
I don't know what you can find.

Speaker 4 Go on a scavenger hunt, Marco Polo.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 that's the bad. This is this is this is dominated.
And Gus Ocho is not going to quiet down anytime soon. No, this is not going to quiet.
Absolutely not. It's not.

Speaker 4 Because you have to understand, as the headlines already hit today, right? They're going to give you pieces of the story bit by bit.

Speaker 4 And then this is, you know, honestly, more people are going to come out. For sure.
More people are going to come out. This is just, this is the cornerstone.
This is the top piece.

Speaker 4 This is just to grab your attention. Now, we're going to give you a little bit,

Speaker 4 little by little. Damn, basketball basketball season just started.
Well, they decide to wait on what, open at night? When are you going to get the most attention, Ojo? Open at night. Okay, then.

Speaker 4 They think they slick. All this is very strategic on their part as well.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 4 I can't believe the mob. I'm still

Speaker 4 fascinated by that.

Speaker 4 Man, one mistake.

Speaker 4 I done lost a million dollars because you told me so-and-so is playing and he ain't play. He ain't play.
Well, you need to give me my money back. Man, I had a good friend of mine.

Speaker 4 We used to come out here, they used to come down to the uh Fremont, which is the old strip.

Speaker 4 Everything is on the new strip now, but everything used to be uh binions and the golden nugget, all that's downtown on Fremont. Yeah, and uh, to hear those stories talk.
Um, I think his uh

Speaker 4 um, I think it was his uncle, Jack, one of them got killed.

Speaker 4 He had

Speaker 4 hordes of silver and gold and cash buried in the desert.

Speaker 4 And

Speaker 4 I may or may not have something.

Speaker 4 I will move on.

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