Deebo & Joe - TNF REACTION: Patriots keep rolling vs. Jets + Eagles-AJ Brown drama continues

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Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison.
I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden. Hey, please make sure you guys like and subscribe.
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How you doing today, Joe? Bro, I'm doing good, brother Debo. Another day talking to my good man, chopping it up about this good football.
How you doing, brother?

I'm doing extremely good, man. Extremely good.
Let's go ahead and jump on to this, man. The Patriots went on ahead and beat the Jets.

Was that 27 to 14? I ain't lied to you, brother. I didn't think it was going to be that close.
Me either. I'm absolutely surprised, 100%, especially with, you know, how it started off.

Like, they won the toss and actually was like, yo, we're taking the ball. We're about to go.
We're about to go run this ball and do what we got to do and score. Dude, they come out the gate.

First play. They go ahead, hit it quick for six.
Second one, three.

They got third and one. You know, they really just staying ahead of the the change the whole time.
They get an 11.

I think Fields end up scrambling the next play. Yep.
And I think he scrambled again for like 15 or something. Yes, bro.
He was using his legs, him and Bryce Hall. Yeah, yeah.

The next third down, I think it was like third and five. Like I said, they kept everything close.
They ended up picking up that hot little seven.

You know, and then I don't know. Um, the what was that?

The

receiver pass. Like, why would you break that up with trying to do that to Fields? Like, I don't understand.
I thought they was going to kill him. You know, they momentum right there.
Yeah.

Yeah. But they ended up able to pick up, I think it was 10 on the,

on that third down.

And then

I think Fields ended up running it in. Yeah.
Like you, on that first drive, they ended up getting a touchdown. That was impressive.

because they haven't been doing too much of nothing i was i was happy with fields being able to create some stuff using his legs Bryce Hall being able to use the arm.

And then on the touchdown, you just saw his athleticism. He didn't make the right play with drawing that thing back, but he's just faster.
He's just more athletic than the outside linebacker.

He was in great position and just was able to beat him to the potline. So like you said, I wasn't expecting too much from the Jets.
Oh, but that was good to see for them. Oh, no question, dude.

They used up, what was it? A little over eight minutes on the 14-play drive, dude. Walked it down.
That's the way you do it. Like you said, staying ahead of the sticks was the biggest thing.

They didn't really really get too much behind. Yeah, yeah, no question.

New England, they get back out there and they kind of did what I expected. You know, I think it was second and 10.
You know, he ended up hitting digs for like eight.

And then they get that unnecessary roughness on that same play for him slamming, dude. That's what I was saying, dude.
I ain't know how I do that penalty, man. That wasn't.

Why didn't they hit Pierre? Yeah, that wasn't even egregious on that one. You know what I'm saying?

Yeah. Yeah.
And they, you know, they do the same thing, you know, trying to stay ahead of the sticks. They get a seven-yard run and then end up getting a loss on that next play.

I think like two downs, two yards, sorry. And the fourth down, they go ahead and fourth and two,

they put it in old Drake hands. He connects for seven.

I think he had a little scramble, too.

On second down for what, about four or five.

He looked poised, bro. He looked poised to me the whole time.
He looked on the control. Unbelievable, dude.

Henderson. Henderson is doing good, dude.

Yeah. He ran completely over that safety on that, on that, on that, on that first down, bro.
Yes, he did. Like, completely over.
And then later, you know, went and scored the touchdown.

I think it was like seven yards or something like that. I think they almost used up like seven and a half minutes on their drive.
Bro, the first two drives took up the first, then the first quarter.

It was. It was the whole first quarter.

They got drive, drive, touchdown. You know what I'm saying? So offenses playing.
Offense was playing well. Yeah, for sure.
Jets get back out there and Patriots defense tightened up a little bit.

They don't let him get nothing on that first down. So they look behind the chains.
I think that was when they went for the pass on the second down. Fields through it, like low and outside.

So dude really couldn't adjust to get to it.

That put him behind. They ended up punting the ball.
New England come back out. And then I think on that first play,

he hit the tight end Henry for like 20, 25, something like that.

dude the play action ate him up right there for real for real yeah no it was the the first like you said they was able to get back out there and just drive it down again they look smooth the whole time they first drives like it looked easy it looked it looked real easy you know what man there's something that that kind of worried me like that second down where where may took off for that scramble his slide game is trash dude he learned how to get down yeah yeah yeah if he don't if he don't learn how to get down man somebody go catch him no i don't for sure for sure because he he's not the most athletic guy he looks like he's about to get smacked when he's running so you want him to get down quicker dude dude like his slide even the first one where he scrambled his slide game was was bad like this one like dude could have he could have shot on him but he didn't yeah no he didn't i think he hit henry uh again on the third down for about 12.

And then, what was it? The second down, I think it was. Dude, he worked a pocket, dude.
He didn't panic. He didn't do nothing.
who was it hollis he hit for 19.

yep bro i'm like this dude is really and then again the next play was 20 for hollis yes bro he he's poised in the pocket he's poised henderson he went on ahead got him another what was seven yard touchdown for sure yeah it was seven seven and seven they go up 14 seven to just get up out of there i think they ended up having a positive run on the first down.

Like they were staying ahead of the change and then i think it was like a a one-yard pass or something and then the third down the receiver dude he just dropped the ball

yes just yeah he just dropped the ball man like and when you got times where he's you know he's putting it into people's hands they're not dropping it and then times where guys are open and he's just not getting it there yeah

that that debo that's the thing when you're not a good enough offensive team to waste those downs like if you're the lions you got you're going to make it supposed to plays every down.

There's a chance for you to score. When you're playing on this team, you got to stay ahead of the sticks.
You don't have nobody that's going to take it to the house when they get it.

You can't miss those passes. And then when people, when it hits you in the hands, it's like, God, damn, we can't win for losing.
Like, if we do have it, we got to catch it. We can't waste that.

Yeah, for sure. New England get back out there.
They do a little something, but I want to talk about that third down. He almost gave Diggs one of them, what you call them blue tent balls.
Yes.

You know what I'm saying? And it wouldn't even matter if he had caught it because i think they got a uh a hold on that that the uh jets declined

he would have he tried to give him a protocol ball

oh man

dude they end up punting the rock the jets get back out there i think that was when they did like a three and out yeah it was three and out something like that

the ball um

but i think that was again a

where like a third down where Justin could have, yes, he threw it like off behind him. He could have placed the ball better.
Like if he had put it like on him, he wouldn't have had to try and adjust.

I think that was like he was doing that little trying to turn with that little circus catch. He couldn't adjust to that thing.

He got to put that, but he got to, he got to throw a better ball on that one. Oh, yeah.
I'm watching that.

Dude, 100%. 100%.

New England get back out there. I think the Jets ended up having 12 minutes on the field the first play.

And then I think, what was it, a holding penalty ended up getting

later on? And they had a,

no jet sacked him and then that's what happened jet sacked him but it got took away because hey man dude was having a rough night over there man all the holding penalties and all the other stuff he had going on yes dude was having a rough night man like it this is just the first that just started off with that dude and then you know again man

like

may like the next play

27

i think that was it that's when uh

nope, that's when they attempted the field goal. Oh, and they missed it.
Yeah, they missed the field goal, bro.

Yeah, that was, it ended up, what was it?

Halftime was 14-7. Yep.
Sound about right? Yeah, for sure.

And then New England got the ball. They went back out there.

And they, I don't think they did anything with it. Their first possession out.

And then later on,

Jets got back out. They really did nothing.

I i think they had uh

unnecessary roughness on that third down that pushed them back a little bit yeah because that was when the punter ended up doing a little little short punt

and they they got the ball back and you know may started doing doing some may things like i think he hit hollis for 17 on the first one a couple plays later i think it was digs for like 20.

yep again dude he was working the pocket like he i don't know how he didn't panic.

He got good pocket presence, bro. He looks.
Dude, year two, like that. He advanced like that.
Yeah, that's why. I think he hit Diggs again.
That was 18 right after that.

My boy Diggs had a hundred ball. Yo, yeah.
They ended up finishing with a touchdown. Henderson again is 21-7.
I'm thinking things about to get blue open right here.

But Jets get back out there and somehow they go ahead and get them a touchdown.

again i think they were staying you know that next thing they were staying ahead of the chains i think they had a big play on that one too i think third down they ended up completing one for a little over 20

uh where the db ended up falling yep

that that got them 14 21

and then new england came out and

i thought it was gonna be like okay Jet's gonna have a chance to come back because the first play was a hold.

So now you first and 20. i think it was

you didn't gain nothing on the second play so on that first down actually after that first down went to first and 20 so it was like second and 20

and he made another play to the tight end was getting him some stuff dude he got 10 he got like half of it back on that point

and then the the uh

what was that that was when dude ended up didn't tap yeah he didn't tap dude down

that yeah he didn't tap him down he got up and was able to make the play when he caught it. It didn't matter, it was still gonna be a first down.

It was, it was, but then you just showed like you got that's that's nfl you a db. That's what you learned.
You know, it's not college football.

Just touch them, yeah, because y'all ended up getting a sack and they they went, they had to you know attempt to 40. What is it, 45, 46-yard field goal, something like that?

Yeah, they hit that one. It was what 14 to 24.
Then

I think the Jets get back out there,

basically

do a little bit of nothing. I mean, Phils made a great pay on that third down

to get the first, but that was really it. They ended up throwing, what was it, a negative two, three-yard screen and then incompletion, punt the ball back to, to New England.

And I think the first play, they had like 20, 25 to digs.

That ended up helping him out. The next play was like a negative.
what was it, five yard

run.

What was that a receiver run or something? I think it it was.

They ended up punting the ball back to the Jets.

And the Jets get the low snap. Instead of him just dropping down on the ball,

he tried to pick it up, bumble it. New England goes ahead, recovers it.
From there,

I thought they was going to score a touchdown.

I don't know how you, what was they at? Like the 10, 11, 12, something like that?

Yes. And they end up holding them.
They get a field goal.

I mean, it's still what, like almost seven minutes left by then. They had an opportunity, I guess you could say.

And they come back out there. And I think they sacked fields on the first play.

Second down,

I think he completed one for like maybe 10 or 11, something like that.

And then third down, you know.

I don't know how he avoided that sack.

Is that the one where he avoided that sack, bro? Like, getting the scramble for the first down?

I thought so. That was it.
That was the one. Yes, because it's the fourth now.
And it was only what, six, seven minutes left, something like that at the beginning of when they started to drive.

And then I think he ended up getting like one for 18. He scrambled for another one.

And then, what was it?

Was it the

you know, it was a sack.

And then

they ended up going ahead and had an incompletion turnover on down. So it's really over with after that, man.
That game, Debo, once it got to the 27-14, I ain't really even peep.

I ain't really gonna lie to you. I ain't gonna lie to you.
I gotta cut that joke off, Debo. Yeah, I'm like, yeah, it's a, you know, it's over with, man.
It's, it's, it's a, it's a done.

It's a done deal, man.

Yeah, it ain't, it ain't, it ain't nothing else that they could do.

They could do to help them, man.

The uh, the Patriots, dude,

like, Drake may though he has elevated his game like yes like you look at last year his total numbers last year i think he was just under 2300 yards

15 touchdowns with uh 10 picks bro like he had 10 picks this year already he a little over 2800 he got 20 touchdowns only five interceptions like almost a six percent increase in his completion ratio plus like

two almost two two plus more yards per attempt like his passer rating is out of control he's up over 25 from last year last year he was like 88 this year he won 13.

his pocket awareness his intelligence like his consistency and being able to get like the ball to people especially under pressure like with people in his face it's dude it's unbelievable like it's no way he is not mvp if he continues this dude no for sure i mean he's been leading a team the nine and two and i i love that the fact that i think the also the coaching staff mike grable and then josh mcdaniels he might not have been the best head coach but offensive coordinator wise being able to talk to the quarterback being able to have a relationship with may because may looks comfortable back there he looks like he's dropping back when he hits that back foot he knows where to go with it he knows where he wants to go he's looking like he's reading the defenses um so it looks it looks like a it looks like a whole team game he looks comfortable so i'm loving the way that the patriots are looking and then at the same time on the the defensive side of the ball, that corner, they got Gonzalez and just dudes running around making plays.

You don't see people kind of running scot-free. Fields was able to run around because he's got speed.
He was able to use his legs, but yards-wise, like they didn't really do too much.

You know what I'm saying? And then just the comfortability of when New England's out there on offense, just trying to get it done. Mays not making mistakes.

He's getting the ball where it needs to be done, getting the ball. Trey Henderson, rookie, like if you're getting that type of performance from your back, too.

And then when I'm looking at the receivers, Digg had 100 yards. Um, they got the receiver number 13, my man that doesn't really wear shoes.
He's out there, he's out there balling.

So it is not like the best of the best. Like, you don't have like uh, they don't have a Jamar Chase and a T.
Higgins. He's throwing it to just some guys that are in good spots, running good routes.

He's putting it. Not Diggs.
Now, stop playing. Stop playing.
No, no, I'm not knocking Diggs like Diggs is number one, but Diggs is like, you say Diggs is like Jamar Chase right now in his career.

You know what I'm saying? Like he's a great, great receiver. He's going to be on point doing this thing like he's doing right now.

But I'm just saying, like, they don't have crazy, crazy receivers out there, but Drake May is putting the ball on the point. The dudes are making plays.
They're running the right routes.

They're not dropping the ball when it hits them in the hands. You know what I'm saying? So I just love the way the Patriots are working.
And Josh McDaniels and the coach, Mike, was Mike Rabel.

They've been doing a great job. Yeah, yeah.
I think him coming back helped, really helped improve that defense.

They're giving up, I think, just under or over 300 yards a game, where last year they were almost at like 420.

So yeah,

that's a great improvement.

What do you think about the Jets?

Speaking of improvement, the Jets, they trouble. They trouble.
Justin Trouble.

Yeah. Yeah, Justin Trouble, right?

They need to figure out. And then they just got rid of their best players on defense.
They got rid of, you know what I'm saying? They got rid of

my man Sauce and Quinn Williams. And then on the receiver side, on offensive side of the ball, I mean, you got Justin Fields.
He's thrown for this.

I love Fields, but sometimes you throw for 27 yards, 45 yards, 54 yards. You know what I'm saying? That's just not what an NFL quarterback's yard is just supposed to look like.

You know what I'm saying?

And now it doesn't. What's my man name? The receiver, number five, the best one, Wilson.
He's out. He's on IR.

So

I don't know what's going on with it. It's looking kind of bad over there.
Yeah,

the biggest thing I think for them is, especially right now, they got to stay ahead of the sticks. If they don't stay ahead of the sticks, they don't have the ability to get chunk plays.

I think he's last in airtime yards. They're not really throwing the ball down the field.
They're not protecting him well.

You know, it's a lot of.

you know, things that's going on there. Rather, it's him being able to get the ball there.
And then when he gets the ball there, they drop the ball.

They can't afford to miss the opportunities to catch those things and come back from it because they're not built that way. They're not good enough.

You know, it's cool to be you know one in the rush and all that but you know you're dead last in the past you can't you can't make that up that's that's that's extremely hard to make up yeah i wish i wish yeah yeah so speaking of

just right here still is

yes sir we play yeah we do

we play we i ain't gonna say i ain't gonna say bongos because i said y'all said that last time and they and they laid the restaurant and deal with what they had to do we play we play the

uh strong bangles cincinnati bangles cincinnati bingo what we're gonna do is put some respect on their name we're gonna put some respect on their name but uh what we really need to do to to win this game is simple it's simple what we need to do to win this game man we have to stop the run

period we gave up 140 plus yards last time and we have to sack joe flacco not pressure him we have to sack him because Joe will stand in the pocket and throw that thing.

He's not going to be a dude that's going to shake out the pocket and get off on us.

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Hey, listen, take some liberties in that past game because if we go and we sack Joe, then we don't let Jamar Chase get 160 plus on us. You know what I'm saying?

Something else we need to do is don't be leaving our DBs out there one-on-one on this dude all the time. Like we used to have a defense with Coastal Bowlers Day.
It was called Double the Stars.

Yes, sir.

I know about that of them guys. Okay,

that means that you take away that as long as your pass rush is there and getting there, it negates all of that.

Like, we have to play situationally better when it counts and offensively. We need to run the ball, it opens up the run.
Gang, the Bengals' defense are still

last in the run and second to last in the past. We have to take advantage of that.

Debo, you speaking facts, my brother. You're speaking straight facts right now because what we need to do is

the defense, we got to be able to double the stars. Like you said, we have to be able to take away the past with...

We can't lie and just sit here and act like Jamar Chase and T. Higgins aren't amazing.
And they're going to make it with their plays. Yeah.

No. No, no, no.

no, no, no, so they're gonna make their plays, but you can't let them take over the game, no, no, no, Debo, we're saying the same thing, that's why I'm saying I'm acknowledging that you have to double the start.

I'm just, I'm talking about the double shots. So, what I'm saying with our run game, we have to stop the run game with our linebackers and D-line.

Knowing at the end of the day, if you stop this on first down, we got to stay ahead of the six to know we're doubling stars.

They're not going to be able to just Joe Flacco, he's throwing the ball to two people, Higgins and Jamar Chase. Those are the dudes averaging touchdowns.

Jamar Chase has five touchdowns since Flacco's been out there and Higgins has six. He's thrown 12.
He's thrown one touchdown to other people. So he's getting them dudes the rock.

Chase is averaging 90 yards a game.

So our front seven needs to stop the run game, stop Chase Brown, be able to get us in second and longs, third and longs to where now we know we're doubling these stars. Get after them, TJ.

Now, Heismith, if you have your opportunity. If you don't win first and second down,

we can't really get you to go get them. Now we put them in predictable knowingness passing situations.
We're going to double Higgins. We're going to double Jamar Chase.

Other dudes, y'all got to get open. We got to lock that up.
And TJ, High Smith,

get after him. You know what I'm saying? So like sack him, hit him.
You know what I'm saying? Make him feel you. You know what I'm saying? Strip sacks.
You know what I'm saying? So I'm with you.

We definitely need to stop the run with just our front knowing like they can't run on us because on the outside, our corners and safety, we're going to need to be able to double them dudes and take away their best players because a bomb.

Our front seven got to stop the run. Our front seven got to stop the run.
And we're going to be able to have to, our DBs going to have to double up and stand up versus these dudes.

Not just saying single coverage. That's not realistic.
If we let you double them a couple of times, you know what I'm saying? Play some zones underneath like situationally. Situationally.

Yes. So

we're speaking the same thing on offensive side of the ball. I run the ball, be able to start ahead of the sticks, be able to.
Now A-Rock can

run the rock and keep the defense on the field. We keep our defense off the field.

We need to control the time of possession. Yes, we don't really care.
The defense needs to do what the defense is supposed to do. We ain't spend all this money for nothing.
And you know what?

Because I know they go do it, Joe. We're giving away four tickets, two,

two sets of two to the game this Sunday. You know what you got to do?

Follow Joe, myself, like and subscribe to Debo and Joe, and we will pick the winner on Saturday because we want you there to see us go ahead and get our get back.

Okay,

because we lost the first game and we got to go get that get back. Got to get that get back.
Got to. Got to get that get back.

Matter of fact.

No, I ain't going to say nothing. Not yet.
Not yet. Not yet.
Not yet. Not yet.
Not yet. Not yet.
Not yet. Not yet.
Let's go on here and stay over here and let's go ahead and stay over here

in the ALC right here on the north. They said Lamar Jackson overrated, bro.
They said they said he's the most overrated quarterback.

Who said that?

Who said that stupid stuff? Hey,

that's a garbage mouth lie.

They may be talking about just sitting in the pocket, not being able to use none of your other talents. I don't know.

He could still throw the rock, too. I mean, he still throw the rock.

I don't know. So

I believe your Browns are playing the Ravens. So, Joe, what do your Browns need to do to beat the Ravens?

I'm actually rooting for y'all this time.

Well,

first things first,

we need to, it sounds like we need to do, we need to control, we need to run the ball first.

Be able to run the ball, we need to get Jutkins going. We need to be ahead of the sticks, all of the same.
It's like

when your offense isn't good, what you need to do is stay ahead of the sticks. Make sure your run game is solid.
Make sure you don't put yourself in long

third down situations because Dylan gabriel has shown us he can't really throw the rock too well so what we need to do is stay ahead of the sticks defense you got a ball out obviously we need to turnovers we need to stop the run we need to create turnovers we need to put our offense in short fields to try to get them to to be able to not have to go that far to get points so it's going to be a game where defense you can't it's you you can't really give up anything because at the end of the day i i don't trust our offense too much so offense in the end us ravens defense has been playing better.

They've been standing up a little bit more. So, and Lamar's back healthy.
They've been coming off of a, they're rolling. They won their last four.
So, I mean, we,

what we need to do, our defense has to play out of their minds. Offense got to run the ball.
And basically, that's our only, that's our only hope. That's your only hope.
So

you ain't too happy. You ain't too encouraged that they're going to be able to do this.

Brown, this is what I'm saying. This would be a game that we mess around and win.
We always find a way to do some wild stuff. That's something that applies to you.

You know, when you least expect that we come out there and get a dub. I'm not mad.
I think the effort's going to be there.

I'm just worried about the end of the day when we do get that ball on offense. I don't,

I just don't want Dilly's been throwing the ball into the dirt a lot. You know what I'm saying? Like, we got to get, I mean, they say once he had 167 yards and two touchdowns with no picks last week.

And everybody was saying that was a good game.

I don't want to talk crazy because he didn't have zero picks, but there's been when you throw a screen pass like a throwback over the man's head out of bounds, and he could have just caught the joint, like, like that's just a bad pass.

Nobody was on you. I just see too many.
Just you could have made that pass, huh? Easy, Debo. I would have hit him right, just you know what I'm saying.

Like, you see, you feel, you feel, you, you hear that, you hear that anger that rising your voice. Oh my gosh, that's what I'm saying.

I was chilling too until I really was. I don't get that in the other side.
You know what I'm saying?

I feel like I'm the only person there when it's when it's we and when it's the stillers, but when it's y'all, you know, because you know what?

Because I'm saying, because I really believe that the Stillers are about to go out there and they should spank Flacco. And that's going to be a good time.

And it's really exciting because I think this is really going to happen with the Browns right now. I just, I'm kind of like, I'm hurt a little bit more.
I'm hurt. You know what I'm saying?

I'm looking. I know my boys are out there.
They're trying to fight them, but I'm like, God, it just, it's bad over there right now. So I'm just a little sad.
You grieving.

Speaking of grieving, the NFL filed a grievance against the NFL PA for court cards.

I think, did you read it? Yes.

I think for the most part,

I think it's bull.

They say it violates the collective bargaining agreement.

that the union, I think they said, quote, it was using reasonable efforts to curtail public comments by clubs, personnel, or players, which express criticism of any club its coach or its operations and policies like no

that's the nflpa that means players association we are not for the nfl like we're trying to make things for the players better what the nfl just doesn't want their dirty laundry air out that's all like like now

you know i understand it's a couple of the points in there that I can

understand, not even, I maybe, maybe even agree with to a point. Like, like what?

Like, like needing to make sure it's actually players that's doing it. Yeah.
You know, making the thing. No, you don't get the names.
You can get just player.

X, Y, Z. Yeah, yeah.

No, he's a legitimate player. Right.
He's a legitimate player. Like, okay, I'm cool with that.

Like, I do agree that it should be specific, you know feedback to what the teams you know need to do what they need to improve but it's still go be a a to f grading scale because it's gonna be based on a percentage yeah

10 100 to 90 is is a 89 to 80 is a b and so on and so forth yes so

like that

is just what it's going to be. This, this is what I'm saying, Diva.
I'm up. The NFL doesn't want their dirty laundry out there.
And this is the other thing too.

Like, NFL, like, when you go to these facilities and you do things, like, we're not trying to be bougie.

Certain teams, if you walk into the walk into the Browns facilities compared to walking into the distillery facilities, I'm not going to grade the still facilities like trash.

Oh, no, it's trash, it's just not as nice as it's luxury as the other stuff would be. So, they have all the accommodations, food.
You're going to be honest and let them know what it is.

But certain places have better things and take care of the players. If everybody gets up to the same level, then you don't have a discrepancy in your grading scale.

Just get your stuff up to the level. Get your stuff up to the level.
This is why I need to be NFL PA executive director, like point blank, period. And you know what?

My dude, Cam Hayward, is on the executive committee. And from what I understand,

my name has to be put on the ballot by someone that is on the committee. And he said he would do that.

I'm hoping

that he did that.

And

I would. And Cam said he did it.

He definitely did it. And I would love,

like I said, I don't know. I'm just assuming that if my name was on it, I would have had some type of contact.

I haven't. Okay.

So I, you know, I'm just, you know, I don't know. I'm not saying he has or he hasn't, but when you have, you know, Jalen Reeves Maven as the current NFL PA president,

like nobody even knows.

So if my name doesn't make it on the final players, you know, vote ballot for executive director i'm thinking it got to be something up you know yeah because to be honest with you though here it goes the nflpa

a lot of them people over there that work for the nflpa want to work for the nfl okay prime example being go back troy vinson

Troy Vinson worked for the NFLPA and went to the NFL. Here's the crazy thing.
He blew his cover, though, when we were doing the collective bargaining agreement for the 2011.

Charles Woodson and Ryan Clark R.C., Woodson actually said,

we thought he was for us. I knew he wasn't for us.

RC said, absolutely lost credibility.

This is when they ended up getting Demarcus Smith, who, by the way, went and set rules in place that we have now that actually took the power away from the players to make the decisions of who they wanted to vote for and put it into basically a committee or board that he picked that would actually pick who the person was he would run against in the re-elections when that time came so that basically ensured that he would win while he lined his pockets

with more and more money going from a salary in 2010 of like 1.5 1.6 million to ending in 2023 at 9.3 million what

place do you know that increases your salary in a 13-year span by

5x

dirty dirty dirty politics

And too many people over there that are trying to do what is necessary for them to get more. Dude, I could go into it even with

when i went through that al jazeer where they were trying to say oh james harrison is doing this doing that right the lawyer they gave me who was a personal close friend of d smith and he got her the job she's asking me questions bro and i'm telling her i'm like yes this that whatever

right we get in there The NFL lawyers are like, okay, we know you do this and that, da, da, da, da, da, but I'm like, what?

Good thing I wasn't guilty because if I had told her, she would have already went and told them.

So it's things like that, dude. You want somebody that's going to be there representing you? Like, how does your salary go

four or five times X? Like,

it don't make no sense. You're not there to take care of the players.

It ended up being there to line his pockets, taking the power away from the players to make the decision.

So as I understand it now, if you're not put on by the executive executive committee, who then makes a decision on who gets put out to the public,

like I may not even, I may be put on the ballot, but they do that behind closed doors before they decide who gets put out to the public. So, if

Maven is your NFL PA president right now, and I don't get put in front of the players, it's on AI. Something's wrong.
Yep, yep, yep.

It's going on, and it's still the NFL PA trying to make it to the NFL.

Okay. Nah, Debo, we're going to keep an eye out on that because if he put your name out on the ballot, there should be no reason.
Then we know it's. It should be no reason.

It should not be a nice thing. There's no reason to play it to be on there for sure.

You know what I'm saying? Like representation is no representation.

Now I'm with you on that. And we were saying too, when we was going back to the, just the report cards too, do you think that...

I think the report cards are a good thing.

Like you said, too, as long as you have the honesty of it's a player playing and dudes are going to be tell you what it is how's the food how's the travel how are they treating us because you play some people play for other teams some people some dudes you just don't know what you don't know so if you play for another team you've been to a facility you moved that way you went to these facilities like the one thing i say about the stillers too and it's not a knock when we're saying like these facilities aren't as good as others it's because pit they are stillers are split with pit panthers like it's just smaller it's just you don't have a whole facility you don't have enough as much space so when you go to other joints where it's just a whole big old, like a pre, like a training facility just for you particular with just so much stuff that you don't even really need, but it's nice.

So I'm going to rate that. That's a 10.
That looks like you like, it's amazing. Like everything's just very, very new.
It's very clean. But at the same time, you're going to get the job done.

The weights still work the same way the weights work. You know what I'm saying? The staff.
Listen here.

Listen. It's a salary cap, right? Every team got to spend a certain amount of money or it is able to spend a certain amount of money.
If they don't, it's certain things that happen or don't happen.

If they go over, it's certain things that happen or don't happen. It needs to be a standard for what your facility should look like, should have, and be accessible to your players, period.

That way, you ain't got to worry about it. That's the only thing y'all want to, you know, not have across the board.
But salary cap, you want to make sure, can't nobody spend no more than nobody else.

Like, make sure the facilities are to the standard at every facility than it just being coaches or teams or owners that want to make sure that their facilities are grade A versus guys that are like, A, it's doable or it's efficient enough.

Yeah, yeah. No, for sure.

We're speaking the same, same language, buddy, because that's where it's who the ownership, like that's really kind of, I think that's mainly more on like the owners more like, because they're, they're building, they, they own the facilities that you're training in and all that stuff.

So, I mean, if they want to spend to have their stuff looking sweet, like Dallas, you just, they look it looks amazing when you were in college you're getting recruited to florida you go see their facilities you go see alabama's facilities you know i'm like this that's like it's people want to go there the stuff looks sweet let's go right makes people want to go with it yeah yeah you got to realize in college what's going to get you there well back then it was the facility now recruiting to yes it's yeah it's it's the you know it's the bread

and what is the ni oil yeah you know what i'm saying plus the facility because if you're looking at the same thing and the facility better here than it is there, then I'm going to go without get the facilities and the bread.

Right. No question about it.
No question about it, dude. AJ Brown said he ain't making no apologies for his Twitch stream, dude.
You see what he said?

Yeah.

He told them boys. He told them boys, man, you know what it is.
And he's talking to his homeboy playing the game. And he's like.
It is. I'm trying to laugh through it where he wants to rock.

You know what I'm saying? And he's saying, no matter what, like winning the games,

it is what it is. But if we're on it, we're all on the offensive side of the ball.
I can respect this as an offensive player.

I would want my team to be able to, like, don't talk about the defense, talk about how we can make the offense better. He's trying to provide for offense that he feels like he can do

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It doesn't work. Hey, man.

They say that man A.J. Brown just changed his IG bio to unemployed an hour ago.
No, he didn't.

I don't know. He trying to tell us something or is he just

gassing but i think he would be look

the check

he's basically saying like i ain't got no job because i ain't got no numbers that's what he's saying he's saying that because the checks the check he's still getting wins

now

yeah the check go clear baby it go clear but i'm i'm i'm getting paid you you with him or you against him or what do you think of him not not apologizing for or saying what he said i me personally i ain't got no problem with he's just keeping it 100 hey man take me off y'all think i'm gonna get you any fantasy points now y'all done seen what i'm gonna get

i'm gonna get a catch here and there that's it now you know what i gotta go up against i gotta go up against chase i gotta go up against uh jeffrey i gotta go up against guys that's just getting the ball totaled to him now you know we ain't gonna throw the ball no more than 16 times a game do you are you feeling that same way if you are on the eagles no i lied man it was tyreek that said unemployed no aj brown nope

It was Tyreek. It was Tyreek Hill that said that.

Thank you, Jesus. I was about to say, oh, I was about to say.
He's definitely, he's that's not even a support.

He's still on the roster, though. Yeah.
Who the he would say that

releasing me hurt himself.

Oh, Tyreek. Yeah.

I don't know. Let me look at that again.
You can't release this man.

They could if they was to pay him. Ooh, that's a lot of money, though.

They owe Tyreek Hill. They owe Tyree Hill guarantee.
Oh, you cut a man while he hurt like that. You got to pay for whatever that whole thing would be plus recovery.

Do he have another year on his contract?

Say that one time. If you cut somebody while they hurt, you get

to pay them. Yeah.

I don't know.

I don't know. We're going to see.
We're going to see. Hey, man.
And speaking of that, Travis, he out for the year, bro. God.

Dang. LCL, I think it was.
Yep.

What you think, man? I look now, the more and more that I'm watching it and the more and more that I see like Travis isn't really like the biggest, you know what I'm saying, body, got to go one way.

Like, I would think you just got to

go one way mainly. Just for body-wise, you know, the NFL, not for long.
You're going to get hurt. People are going to get hit.
We're going to get injured regardless.

So I'm just thinking longevity-wise. At first, I was thinking if you're the Jaguars, you get a first-round pick.
You got elite talent. Your team isn't really as good.
You can use them on both.

You can get a top-flight corner and a top-flight receiver.

But now, the more I'm looking at it, like for the health of the kid and for Travis Hunters, like career-wise, like, do you want it to be cut short just because you're trying to, at the end of the day, it's the NFL.

You're playing for the best people in the world, over-exerting yourself.

Where if you just locked in on one, you know what I'm saying, got your mind right, was able to go Pro Bowl, like really just focus in and be able to make that your thing.

Like being able to try, because you still could get hurt. You know what I'm saying? Playing once, right? You know what I'm saying? I'm not going to knock that out.
I mean, you go get a, you go,

you get a, I think you get a lot more protections playing receiver than you would, uh, you know, at, at the, you know, at the, at the corner position. Plus,

people got to adjust to you. He's not adjusting to them.

You know, he's not trying to figure out if this dude go try and run past him or through him, you know, and having to be able to step that foot into the ground. You know what I'm saying? Like,

I would, and like you said, you know, he's not, he's not an extremely large dude. So

i'm with you i would i would i would i would go to the to the offensive side especially now dude you can't even really you can't really hit nobody like coming across the middle is just something you know

coming across the middle is a thing of the past no for sure you're right you're right about that and i mean if you want i i like him at db i like him i like him at db i think he would i like him at receiver dude i think he'll be a great receiver like i i just don't know how like i mean yeah he could be a great receiver too but i just think his routes and stuff like that aren't as crisp as a, you know what I'm saying, like a, like a Chase, like a Jefferson.

You know what I'm saying? Like, I think those are the elite of the elites. I think at DB.
Hey,

he got, he got, you know, one of those other quarterbacks on that overrated list was his quarterback. Trevor Lawrence? Yes.
I don't think he's that overrated. I think Trevor Lawrence is not.

I don't think he's that overrated. It depends on who you're talking to.

You think he's overrated? It depends on who you're talking to.

If you ever talk to a fan of some sort, for me, I don't think he's overrated because I have real, I have a realistic

view of his skills, like expectations. Like,

depending on what announcer you get announcing the game, you think he's the next coming to Joe Montana.

You ain't lying.

You ain't lying.

I don't think he's bad. I think he's good.
I think he's a good solid franchise quarterback, bro. And if he can, I think he can make, he can make the throws.
He can make all of the throws.

consistently

consistently, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stop, bro.

Consistently. I like Trevor.

I'm not, I'm, I'm not, I'm not a Trevor. I'm saying you could like it.
I don't, I don't, I'm just saying I'm going by the skill. But what does he? Or what does I don't I don't know.

I think he's gonna be solid. I think he's gonna be solid.

Okay. Do you think you think Travis Hunter is gonna be better, though, at receiver than at corner?

Debo. I just, I just, I just, I just like him better at receiver, dude.
Okay, no, no. And I respect him.
I like, I like his adjustments to be able to get to the ball, all that. Like,

I don't like him having to come up with a, you know, a lineman coming out there to, you know, do the screen and you can't cut that lineman.

That's, I don't like that. I don't, that, that, that,

that's not something I want to see.

I think he's going going to be. Yeah, either way, either way is going to work.
Like you said, his ball skills, you know what I'm saying? Being that receiver, being able to adjust his body, just get

his adjustments to balls. Like he did it.
That's what he's done. Like being able to do that, dude, that's a hard skill.
You look and see, you know, in the

New England game, where dude couldn't adjust back to a couple passes, could do a couple catches. That's Travis.
He get there.

Yeah, Travis Honey is a baller. He could do either way.
He could play either side of the ball. I just want him to pick one of them joints and get after it.

Because I think the more and more that I think about it, though, just

the health, you know what I'm saying? I don't want him to start off his career just being able to get hurt. And then, you know what I'm saying, it continue.

So I want him to just take one of them spots, corner or receiver, whichever one it is, and just hone his craft and become elite.

Okay, I got it.

But I'm a receiver. I'm sorry.
You receiver, though. I'm receiving.
You DV. I think that's key to a DB.
No, yeah, because I know his ball skills and how elite he could be at DB.

Like, that's the thing. He could be one of the best to do it at DB.
You know what I'm saying? Because the ball skills, the being able to read stuff.

Like when he was in college at Colorado, breaking in zones and being able to play man, because he could run, he could jump, he can come out of his breaks just as fast. or faster than these receivers.

And then he's going to turn into the receiver. When he turns around, he's playing the ball in the air.
You know what I'm saying? Looking back, he sees that. He's like, oh, now that's mine.

He can go get it.

So I just think with the athletic ability and ball skills it'll make him one of the best to do it at db but as a receiver there's other guys that are receivers that i see that could just that are better than him well you know also like you you go you go be playing against better caliber of quarterbacks and receivers at this level like

you know matthew stafford ain't gonna put that thing right there for you to be able to get it he go put it where only his dude can get it nobody else you know what i'm saying

you know

And in college, the placement is not like that. The speed is not like that.
Every, you know, every

receiver you come up against, ain't going to have that ability to be that, you know, that chase, draft receivers, you know, things like that.

So I think while he is a great talent, I think some of that added to helping him, you know, be as good as he was in college. No, for sure.

We on the same page. We just think that boy Travis Hunter is a dog.
Wherever he's at, he's going to thrive. I just want him to be healthy and be out there.
Yeah, and he got hurt in practice. So like,

you know, like that's that's tough

i ain't even get to go out there and and and and and get you know popped on the battlefield you know

like yeah that that hurts that hurts hey work on that turf hopefully yo let's let's go over here to detroit though gibbs they say he closing in on barry rant on barry sanders record for the most touchdowns before the age of 24.

they said that dude got what is it 41 right now?

And what we got? How many games we got left?

You got eight, seven, eight, seven, eight games left.

He only need six more or seven more to beat it. I think that record is, what, 47?

Record is 47 for sure.

Yeah.

You think he's going to be able to do it? Like, he hitting two and three. Well, he hitting two a game.
Like, it's multiple games where he done hit two.

Yeah.

I think he can. And I think with the with their coaching staff, they could put it in a position where it gets down there instead of

that, man. That's a staff that's going to be a lot of fun.
You got a coach that's going to care about it.

Sure, if he gets you in that position to be able to do it, he go get it done. Let me distribute this little tutty to him.
Montgomery, discriminative tutorial to you, Williams, St. Brown.

Okay, you've been waiting on this. So I think once it gets down to the nitty-gritty, their offense is so powerful and they coach and just feeling their vibes.

He going to be able to get him his touchdowns if he gets close to it. Because, like you say, he's scoring two touchdowns a game.

If he, the next two games, two a game, it's gonna be easy for them to, I think, get it to him. Because if he, if he gets two in the next, if he gets two tugs in the next

two or three games, and one in any one of them, I'm definitely gonna say he's gonna get it. So, how many? We say he needs six right now.
He needs six right now to tie it. Oh, for sure.

He needs seven to beat it. Yeah, I like one dude.
I like him to get it. That's crazy.

How many years has he been in the league, bro?

It's only what, four right now? Yeah, because he's, yes.

Because he still ain't got no, because he still don't have a bag. He's still in his rookie deal.

Montgomery, Montgomery hit him for a good little bag. So you know,

Gibbs ready. Gibbs is he's balling.
So yeah, he's going to he's going to deserve it all. Young bull, this probably year fourth.

Bruh.

23, he was picked, bro.

23. Brown, yes.
That's what

that, because he was, what he was, so his rookie season was 26 and he just switched to zero.

Bruh,

it ain't even three deep yet. God.

Yeah.

They got to go ahead and they need to keep performing while they got this duo because

that's going to be a Brinks truck. They're going to have to back up to my good man.

Oh, but that's going to be hard. There's a thing called the salary cap.
No, but that's what I'm telling you. They got to do it now.
And then they, yeah, they might have to draft another little one.

But look, that's the thing. When you got a team like that, they already signed a bunch of their players already.
They already signed Williams. They already signed Golf.
They already signed

Amrant Say Brown. They've been giving out bags over there.
They've been doing a good job. And they know.

At some point, believe me, these contracts are going to get front or back heavy. And

it's going to be decisions that got to be made, man. Debo, this is what I'm trying to tell you.
You know, with Debo, the more,

when people always say that to me, this is what

you got to win. You got to win.
And this is the other thing, too. You got to be able to, the thing that the teams realize, you can guarantee money to your ballers.

If your ballers are performing at a high level,

that's when you can live. If your ballers are performing and not performing, that's when you can't be signing people and be making all of the bread.

Because if the dudes are making money, guarantee your quarterbacks salary every guarantee, your quarterback's salary. And I tell you, that opens up so much space.

That's the one thing I always will look at: like, man, just make the contract of your quarterback or your best players that are hooping fully guarantee that year.

And then that opens up so much money in the cap.

Yeah, but you know,

did I just turn off?

Can you hear me? Can you hear me? Yeah, I can hear you. Yeah, but you gotta, you know,

it ain't a year-to-year contract, dude. It's a, you know, it's at least four-year contract.
So you got to guarantee so much of that, if not all of it. You know what I'm saying?

Depending on what type of deal that they're willing to take.

Like, if I want to take a friendly deal, you got to guarantee me something that's going to be conducive to where I feel like I'm going to be at the end of that contract, especially with it being so short.

And

your game is going to get better, hopefully, and elevate. So instead of it being market value right now, you know,

what is a top-tier quarterback, right, go cost you 50 million right now? In four years, like,

what's that gonna cost? You gotta think about it. What kind of homes deal was? But that's what I'm saying.
He's gonna make 40-something right now. Everybody else making 50-something.

Patrick Mahomes is smart. Patrick Mahomes knew he could have went and when he did his deal, he could have stung him for $50 million a year.

He went and did a $45 million a year for 10 years just so they can move money around. Because you know, when you've got a quarterback like that, he's not going nowhere.

so the 45 guarantee for tatram mahomes you don't have to guarantee it right now but every year he's not going nowhere you could re i understand what you're saying but like right now look at the window

it's closing you can't say it ain't i i i mean i know you can't tell me this

i mean as long as you got patron mahomes you got a chance as long as you got patch you got a chance and they got and and they got defense they still got jones and them defense is sometimes there sometimes not like situationally yeah yeah like inconsistent.

But you know what it is, though, they're going to be there. So, like, you know what I'm saying? They're going to be there at the end.
So, it's like

you're going to have Patrick Mahomes with, you're going to have to see, can you beat him or can you not when you get to the playoffs? I mean, I don't disagree with you.

You know, I just like to, you know, I like to beat the beat. I know you like to beat it.
You like to get those little double.

Devils have, I like to get stuff started. You know what I'm saying? Don't get me wrong.
If I'm patting, I'm in that same situation. Yeah, give me the 500 back and guarantee every penny of it.

I'm going to give you a deal.

I'm chilling.

And I think that's what the good quarterbacks are starting to do. Like, you know,

you ain't got to sting them all shorter term. You know what I'm saying? Josh Allen didn't even go get more than what Dak Prescott got.
You know what I'm saying?

Like, you know, with the next man up, sometimes like Jaden Daniels, AJ Strauss. You're going to get what you want to get.
Money ain't good money. Okay.

He knows, like they say, the grass ain't always greener on the other side.

You might get that money and then be sitting there like

your boy.

What's his name? My man, Miles. Your Miles Garrett upset.
Yeah. Although you got the bag, now you can't win.

No,

I'm,

we saying the same thing. It's just the quarterback position is one where dudes are making $60 million per year.
It's coming. And if you have a good one, I just think

the cap can help you with being able to just guarantee money to your best players. You know what, man, I say

baseball, they ain't got no cap, right? They don't got no cap. Listen, go on cap.
We're going to see what man,

what, what owners,

no cap. We're going to see what owners really want to win.
You're going to, that's where you're going to find out who's the Yankees. You know what I'm saying? Yankees.

Who are going to be the Yankees? Who's trying to drop that bag? You know what I'm saying? Like, I'm going to be able to see. Uncap this thing.
And we're going to see who go be the Yankees.

Is Jerry going to throw extra money into his possessional toy to make sure he can be them boys again

or

is he not

the only thing uncapped do you know no cap we hey start no cap a no cap if we did no cap though debo no cap would make the nfl crazy it would be crazy because then that would be legitimate like you're gonna see i couldn't even imagine

you're gonna see you're right

that's exactly what we're gonna see you're gonna see who got the owners of them trash facilities yep who cares they because who cares you're only gonna be able to spend you can only spend the same thing 50 of whatever they make and whatever so it's like 50 50 splits up we gotta spend 50

something like that each team has to spend the same no it's a it's a it's a it's a it's a number point blank period that each team has to spend at whatever it is and if they don't spend up to a certain percentage of it which is like almost 90 something percent 80 something percent whatever it may be then it's a penalty or whatever okay no no okay they don't really care about that dude like but but that's the way it is.

Because they do revenue sharing anyway. But I don't know for sure.
But I said that's the only reason, though, but that, but that's why it keeps the salary cap keeps going up because it has to go up.

Because it's a certain amount.

If they're making more, then they have to, you know what I'm saying? We're busting down to 50-50. They got to spend.
Man, that ain't no 50-50 break, too.

It's after they scrape a certain amount of the top. Like I said, man, I could get deep into this thing, but I won't.

I understand what you're saying, Debo.

But people getting paid $60 million a year when back in the day, when I think when we first got in around 20, when I first got in, I think around 2010, I think the highest-paid quarterback was probably making $16 million a year.

Yep.

And then that has to be because the TV deals and salary. And I made $60,000 that same year.
So now what?

Dang. They tried to get it.
What are we talking about?

You're making billions and billions of dollars.

No, Debo, we're speaking the same. We're saying the same thing.
Oh, we ain't saying the same thing. You're saying a little something different.

I'm saying uncapped that thing.

I hope they uncap it. That would be.
You're in the wild, wild west. Ain't no way in hell they uncapping it, though.
The Yankees now, the Yankees out there doing that shit now. You hear?

The Yankees is proving that, like you said, if it goes uncapped, that's going to show which owners are trying to win. For real.

No question no question some people ain't gonna be able to compete yeah that's what i'm saying i think they're trying to keep it competitive that might be it

for sure

i don't know why does baseball not care though

dude i don't know why baseball don't care but the fact that the baseball don't care and the nfl still makes more money than any professional sport is crazy to me even though they're uncapped over here

Brings in more money, like, even though, like, and they're, they're uncapped, and we're still bringing in more money than them, like, as a whole, period.

I mean, I understand more players on the team and all the other stuff, but like,

man, if you want to win, man, you spend the green

to get

that's that's that's that baseball uncapped, that's that uh overseas soccer money uncapped.

Oh, soccer ain't got no soccer ain't got no caps over here. Man, that soccer boy, that soccer talk, that soccer got way more money than anybody.

They, they got it, they paying, they paying the team 20 million and then taking over the buddy's same contract. They giving you 20 million just for him.
Just give me him for 20, and then I'm gonna

contract. And I'm gonna pay his contract, whatever.
And I'm gonna pay his contract, whatever it is. It don't matter.
Yeah. I'm gonna get my boy.
I'm gonna get my boy kicking a soccer ball.

That's what I need to do.

I don't know about that. You gotta, you gotta, you gotta go over there.
You know what I'm saying? Oh, we got to move over there. You got to move over there, man.
You got to move over there. Negative.

Yeah. I don't think

there's too many from here that got that.

You know, they got that money like that. You know what I'm saying? I feel like.
Yeah. Listen here, man.
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