Nightcap Hour 2: Michael Penix Jr. wants to be CODDLED in the NFL + NFL ducks GRADES for team FACILITIES + Shilo Sanders is a CHEAP TIPPER?

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Speaker 2 An answer at a press conference from Michael Pennix Jr. is gone viral, OJo.
Let's take a listen to what he had to say.

Speaker 12 Uh-oh. Like, mentally, like my fiancé, she's always there for me.

Speaker 12 So I know whenever I get home, it doesn't matter how I played, she's always going to be there for me. She's going to have a smile on her face and give me a hug and make me feel

Speaker 12 good no matter what.

Speaker 12 But as far as, you know, as far as like physically the on-the-field stuff,

Speaker 12 it's not nobody that I'll talk to like as far as another quarterback or anything like that. I do have people reach out to me.
I do have quarterback coaches, though, back at home

Speaker 12 that reach out to me as well. Tell me, hey, you need to clean this up, clean that up,

Speaker 12 and everything will be good. So those guys help me as far as that, too.
So I can shout out to them.

Speaker 13 You know what? I would love to hear the question that was asked. I would love to hear the question that was asked for better context because I'm sure he has quarterback coaches on the sideline.

Speaker 13 He has quarterback coaches on the sideline, and I'm sure they're talking about the totality of after a game on what it looked like.

Speaker 13 I think that that has to be the context of the question because bringing up your fiancé and no matter how I played when I come home. That ain't it.
You know, she's there for me. No, am I wrong?

Speaker 13 Am I wrong? If I'm wrong, let me know.

Speaker 2 What are you saying about his fiancée?

Speaker 13 Oh,

Speaker 13 how she said, no matter how i played that she's always there for me when i come when i come home always smiling but if anything what's the first thing your fiancé's supposed to say oh no oh no honey you ain't finna embarrass me like that it's supposed to be no young you laughing it's supposed to be tough love it got if you play bad she's supposed to be the first one baby come on come on come on come on uh mp come on don't do that now you know you can play better than that you know you have hey your uncle no don't don't don't have one of them wives that know how to break down, that understand the game and can break it down for you.

Speaker 13 Oh, my goodness. That now you're coming home to something like that.
Not that old, oh, baby, you play bad, it's okay. No, honey, it's not okay.
You can't embarrass the family like that.

Speaker 13 You can't do that. You can't embarrass the Pennix last name like that.
Now, I'm just, I'm just throwing out hypotheticals.

Speaker 13 You know, not you coming home and the wife, no matter how you play, oh, it's okay. No, it's, you know, tough love is okay sometimes.
Exactly.

Speaker 13 And the best person to hear tough love from is the one closest to you. Yes.

Speaker 2 I'm so

Speaker 2 so they ask him what coaches does he rely on?

Speaker 2 Lean on. Okay.

Speaker 13 Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay. Yeah.
Like, who do you like? Okay, Ocho, you're going through a tough time. Is there somebody that you lean on?

Speaker 13 Okay, boom. I like that.
I like that question. Because the first thing, the coaches I would lean on, most of the time, it wouldn't be my coaches in Cincinnati.

Speaker 13 If things aren't going right and there's someone I need to lean on, now in game,

Speaker 13 Hugh Jackson. In game, you know, Alex Wood, you know, some of those coaches that day.

Speaker 13 But if something's going right and I need, I need to go back to the foundation on how it was built, Charles Collins.

Speaker 13 1997, when it all started at Santa Monica College, running the sand dunes, the Manhattan sand dunes back in the day. Like,

Speaker 13 that's what I'm leaning on, huh? That's what I'm going to. That's why when Michael Pennix said, he mentioned coaches that, okay, with that question, that's what I'm leaning on.

Speaker 13 I'm going back where it all started. Hey, Coach C, man, what you see? I don't know what's going on.
You know,

Speaker 13 I'm doing it. Am I rushing? I'm just whatever it may be.
Because

Speaker 13 he can see it from a different point of view than I can. He can see it from a different point of view than my coaches do.
Because my coaches, they see X's and O's.

Speaker 13 Coach C can see something they don't see, even though they're my receiver coaches.

Speaker 2 And guess what? Coach C looking out for you. That receiver coach got five other guys, six other guys that he got to coach.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah. And the conversation would be.
absolutely.

Speaker 13 They viewing me in a different lens than what he's seeing.

Speaker 2 That is correct.

Speaker 2 So I think people were like, no, that's not what NFL coaches are there. You're not going to be able to rely on your coaches.
So I know y'all was surprised that he said that. Well, he can't go.
Nope.

Speaker 2 Nope.

Speaker 2 Raheem got 50 guys, 60 guys he got to worry about.

Speaker 2 That quarterback got that quarterback coach got every ain't nobody holding your hand in the NFL

Speaker 2 They're not. So I'm sorry, I don't want to.

Speaker 2 I don't want to come off as callous. I don't want to come off as not being empathetic, but I'm just telling you: the sports business, this is a grown man's business.

Speaker 2 You get paid a King's Ramsom to play a kid's game, they're not holding your hand. So I understand what he's saying.
That when you need somebody to lean on,

Speaker 2 I'm calling my former coach, I'm going to call my brother.

Speaker 2 What do you see?

Speaker 2 Am I missing something? I feel I'm leaving plays out there, but I don't know what I'm doing.

Speaker 2 Hey, send me a copy.

Speaker 2 Let me look at your practice.

Speaker 2 Let me see what you look like in the game. Send me the game cut up.
Send me practice. Let me see.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 So,

Speaker 2 this is the cold, harsh world. This has always been like this.
And I think the thing is that this new generation, they think like it's high school.

Speaker 2 They're like, come on, son, and the coach take you out to eat and put his arm around you.

Speaker 13 Oh, no, ain't none of that.

Speaker 13 Ain't none of that. Because listen, that right there, that'll get you, you lose your job.

Speaker 13 You'll lose your job. Players get coaches fired.
So if you're not playing up the par, depending on who you are, depending on what round you went in, you know, depending on how much you're making,

Speaker 13 ain't no coddling.

Speaker 13 Ain't no coddling in the NFL.

Speaker 2 Boy,

Speaker 13 this is business. These are X's and O's.
We're going over X's and O's Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Sunday. We expect you to execute those X's and O's.

Speaker 2 Somebody said, He was your first-round pick. You don't want him to succeed.
How many first-round picks do you think Atlanta got on their roster?

Speaker 2 So I guess they're supposed to take them all out for brunch and breakfast, huh?

Speaker 13 It don't work like that.

Speaker 2 This is a different generation, OJo, because this house has always been. Because the Harrison thing, this is why in the military, there's supposed to be no fraternizing or higher up in subordinates.

Speaker 2 Because there are going to be certain times that you're going to have to be like, you know, like what David did, and he put Jeff Bathsheba Husband in the front.

Speaker 2 But that was for a whole different reason. Because it clouds your judgment.

Speaker 2 So you got to be careful when you coddle a certain player because it's going to make it much more difficult to get off said player if and when you need to.

Speaker 2 That's why Coach Belichick Heisman posed everybody it was nothing for him to get off a player you know coaches tell you that lie all the time oh the most difficult thing it is to do is cut a player no it ain't you built up so much callus

Speaker 2 you're numb to it especially about if you're a coach for 15 years old and you got to cut 20 players a year for 15 years

Speaker 13 they're numb to it now they pretend they they pretend about it the conversations they have for you when they ask you when they get that knock on your door

Speaker 13 bring your playbook coach want to see you man they got everything prepped.

Speaker 13 They probably said the same thing to everybody else. The only thing they do different is they change the first name when they greet you and let you know,

Speaker 2 this is a tough decision. This is everything you got to do.
This is the worst part of my job. No, they

Speaker 2 were really easy.

Speaker 2 But you know what I'm saying? I'm just being real. You know, this is the tough part of my job that nobody likes to do.
They sit in their chair like this. Hey, come on in.
How you doing, son?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah, you know, you just got caught up in the OJ. You know, they sit back.
You just got caught up in the numbers game. It's just one of those things.

Speaker 2 There it is.

Speaker 13 That numbers game.

Speaker 2 There's a possibility that we might now, with the situation,

Speaker 2 bring you back. We might bring you back for the practice squad, but we're going to give you an opportunity to go out there and see what's out there.
And, you know,

Speaker 2 I'm just telling you how it is.

Speaker 2 I'm just being all the way honest with you. Yeah.
And

Speaker 2 because a lot of times, you know, everybody has those aspirations. You don't go to the NFL and say, well, if I get cut, it's okay.
No, it hurts. Because for a lot of these guys, this is the end

Speaker 2 of something that they've been doing since they were seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven years old.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. So the end is never easy.
Oh, yo, a good movie, man. You don't want to, you don't want a good movie to go out and be like, damn, that's it?

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 Damn.

Speaker 2 It's

Speaker 2 tough.

Speaker 2 And having gone through that, that's something that you didn't have to worry about being a second round pick, that I had to worry about being a seventh-round pick. And

Speaker 2 I remember it like yesterday because we were standing at the Clarion Hotel

Speaker 2 out by Centennial Airport. That's where all the private planes come in at Centennial.
And we were standing at the Clarion. And I'll never, ever forget the phone rang.

Speaker 2 So you know, OJO, we got two rooms, one, one phone.

Speaker 2 Me, I ain't answering. Like, they don't know like they can't come over there knock on the door and say hey man hey coach coach

Speaker 2 Coach Reese want to see you

Speaker 2 right and I remember

Speaker 2 phone rang

Speaker 2 the phone rang about three or four times I'm like they know we in here oh Joe

Speaker 2 where we going

Speaker 13 hey you ain't you ain't picking up

Speaker 2 Nah, you gotta come, you gotta come fast. I pick up no phone.
How would you give me bad news face to face?

Speaker 2 Right. My roommate picked it up.

Speaker 2 After a while, I see my door open.

Speaker 2 They got your boy, man. I say, damn.

Speaker 2 Man, I'm sorry to hear that, bro.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Like, man, hey.

Speaker 2 But you keep going. I said, man, you name.

Speaker 2 As a matter of fact, I hadn't talked to him. I mean, I talked to him from time to time.

Speaker 2 Right. He came to see me play in Denver.

Speaker 2 He came back to see me play in Denver. He came to see me play in Baltimore.
He came to the hall.

Speaker 2 We still cool.

Speaker 2 B-Mac. He'll tell you.
He called me. He's still the only one that really called me double S.
But it was tough because, you know, I was talking about, man, what I wanted to do and X, Y, and Z.

Speaker 2 But you know what, Ocho? At that time, I had a Mercedes. My brother said, nah.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 Lead the car home.

Speaker 2 Hey, don't tell nobody you got it. Don't tell nobody nothing.
You going up there, you trying to make a team. You ain't got no car.
Right.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 But it's, it's, it's, it's real. Ain't nobody, ain't no baby.

Speaker 2 Man, you remember I told you I had that thigh bruise. I had a hole in my thigh, in my quad.

Speaker 2 They don't care nothing about that.

Speaker 2 They're trying to find the best 53 damn players they can possibly find to make this team. And

Speaker 2 the more you can do, the better your chances are. The better.
Oh, you not a starter? You not the start 11, starting defense? Or how many special teams can you play? Put me on point.

Speaker 2 Punt, return, kick, kick, return. I can play four to five.
All of them. All of them.
Well, four to six. I can't play on PAT, and I can't play P-A-T block or field goal block.

Speaker 2 But I can get you four of them. You ever tackled anybody?

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I hadn't tackled anybody since high school. Well, interception, but I played defense at high school.

Speaker 2 Son, you got to be tough to play. You got to be tough.
Bruh. I'll try to make a squad.
Tell me what you need me to do.

Speaker 2 Tell me what my job is. Tell me what my responsibility is.
Once you tell me my responsibility, oh, I'm gonna carry that out.

Speaker 2 My brother, my brother used to tell me all the time, he said, He said, Bro, you do everything that you do better than anybody else do what they do, and you'll be fine.

Speaker 2 So that was my singular focus, Ocho. I'm gonna do what I do better than anybody else do what they do.

Speaker 13 That's all hey, that's all it comes down to.

Speaker 2 That's all it comes down to.

Speaker 2 And,

Speaker 2 but I lost, oh, I had lost contact with him for like,

Speaker 2 man, for like eight, for like eight years.

Speaker 2 And then all of a sudden,

Speaker 2 he called the Broncos.

Speaker 2 They say some guy named Brian, Brian McFadder. He tried to get in touch with me.
I said, oh, B-Mac, yeah. I called him.
I said, man, what the hell you being?

Speaker 2 You know, he went back and finished up school.

Speaker 2 And, you know, we stayed in contact and we lost contact again. He hit me up.

Speaker 2 I think he called the Ravens. It's like a Brian McFadden.
I said, yeah.

Speaker 2 So I hit him up, brought him out to B-more.

Speaker 2 And, you know, then when I went to the hall, I said, hey,

Speaker 2 Jim Sakamano, who was, he's like, anybody that you need me to find.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 him, he found him and found a couple of guys that I was trying to get in touch with. For the most part, the guys that came, you know, I still knew who they were.

Speaker 2 I tried to get in touch with David Lewis, but I couldn't find him. But because he was the guy that made me who I am.
But guys, this is different. This is the NFL.

Speaker 2 This ain't high school where the coach is going to take your ass in, or this is college where they get that. Ain't what they do at this level.
I'm telling you, I ain't telling what somebody told me.

Speaker 2 I'm telling you what I know.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

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Speaker 2 NFL owners have filed a grievance OTO against NFL PA to stop the annual report cards. Jets owner Woody Johnson called them totally bogus and was

Speaker 2 and was the one behind it per ESPN. Johnson received an F grade from his players last year.
He's received an F grade every year. He has never got anything but F.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 13 hey when it when it comes to those grades on who's the person doing it do they do they talk to the players

Speaker 2 they talk to the players and they said okay what is the training facility like okay what's your training staff like okay what's the x y and z like yeah you know what i'm saying uh with the uh

Speaker 2 the lounge area and the stadium

Speaker 2 Do you have to, is there an area that, is there somebody there to watch the kids? Do you have a daycare? Things like that. You know, what's the meal services like? Stuff like that.

Speaker 13 Yeah, but that's a good thing. They need to keep that going.
They need to keep that going so everyone is aware. So players are aware.
The NFLPA is self-aware

Speaker 13 on how these owners are conducting themselves and making sure that the environment and all the amenities for players are up to par. Yeah, I mean, ain't nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 13 And is Woody complaining because he didn't got an F every guy? Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 13 Improve it.

Speaker 13 Matter of fact, if you prove, maybe if you prove the amenities and the environment around, maybe your team will play better. Something like that.

Speaker 13 You never know. You got to start somewhere.
Everything. Listen, when it comes to winning too, onk in life, it started at the very top.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 13 It started at the very top, and for some reason, it just trickled down after that. If you're losing up top,

Speaker 13 everybody going to lose right below you, too.

Speaker 2 For sure.

Speaker 2 We had to look,

Speaker 2 obviously, it's done gotten better now, Ocho, because, you know, in the beginning, there was no free agency. Our owners were cheap.
They spent X amount of dollars.

Speaker 2 We used to have something, what they call Plan B. Plan B

Speaker 2 it was.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't use a few of them too now.

Speaker 2 I didn't use a few of them too.

Speaker 2 But this plan B was.

Speaker 13 Oh, you talking about that? Oh, my bad.

Speaker 2 You're not in Plan B. My bad.
I'm sure you have used some of those plan B.

Speaker 13 Yeah, you know, Lil Sam.

Speaker 2 Look, but this plan B was like free agency before free agency. Well, what you could do is protect a certain number of players and the players that you couldn't protect, they were free.

Speaker 2 Somebody else could sign those players off your roster. So that's what it was before we got the Reggie White settlement, which granted free agency for everybody.

Speaker 2 And so.

Speaker 2 But I couldn't have gave Mr. Bowling anything but because when I got to Denver, that was the first year that they had moved down to the Paul D.
Bowling Center down in Inglewood. So

Speaker 2 it was brand spanking new. The grass fields were exemplary.

Speaker 2 The bubble was horse crap. crap.
But other than that, and what do you expect? Somebody, I mean, you expect to get like mashed potatoes. Oh, Joe,

Speaker 2 you got to eat something light because you got to go practice in the hour. How you eat steak or potatoes and turkey?

Speaker 2 Come on.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 2 Cold cuts. And like I said, we lost.
They cut that out. I like a good.

Speaker 2 Joe, you eating high on the hog.

Speaker 2 Eating good, but you playing terrible. Nah.
But,

Speaker 2 and now

Speaker 2 they're getting ready to build a new stadium in Denver. They just spent man, they probably done spent since the

Speaker 2 Rob done took over and the Pinners. Oh, Joe, they probably done spent maybe $100 million

Speaker 2 upgrading the facilities.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about... Everything.
I'm talking about hyperbaric chambers. I'm talking about red light saunas.
I'm talking about triodes. I'm talking about...

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm talking, you name it i'm talking about weight hey

Speaker 13 the fact that you said that for some reason and i probably all 32 teams are like that too especially now that it's been so long no everybody like that oh shit

Speaker 2 no hell no

Speaker 13 hey unc man i went i went inside the bangle facility onk that old native ass ish

Speaker 13 no hey unc listen They done put some money in that thing, Uncle Everything you just named the the the the the red the sauna the the it's it's unbelievable I'm like, well, when the hell they did all this, they, hey, it, they done knocked, they done knocked everything down and built some all the way.

Speaker 13 It's um, the hyperbaric chambers, yeah, something. What's the red thing?

Speaker 2 What's the red thing you just red lights? Oh, yeah, red light therapy. Now, they

Speaker 2 got a bunch of that.

Speaker 13 Man, they got a bunch of them lined.

Speaker 2 I'm like, what the hell is that?

Speaker 2 Oh, they got full kitchens.

Speaker 13 Same

Speaker 2 weight room, all

Speaker 2 if y'all had all

Speaker 2 the cooking and all these, all this weight, Ocho, I'd have looked like an anatomy chart.

Speaker 2 Shredded like a Trump tax return,

Speaker 13 and they got a juice bar.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 13 the juice bar when they come out.

Speaker 13 What kind of shake you want to get? Yes, kind of parsley.

Speaker 2 Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 They'll have them ready for you. If you tell them, Ocho, when you come off the field, they'll have your shake with your name on it.
You just grab your shake and go.

Speaker 13 Yeah, that's that's crazy, man.

Speaker 2 That's crazy. They cooking breakfast.
That amazing. Oh, yeah, they're cooking breakfast, lunch, and dinner.

Speaker 13 Dinner and dinner, yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah, they got they got them.

Speaker 2 They got, they got it, they got them right.

Speaker 2 Oh, you're ain't no boy. Oh, Lord, have mercy.
Mama, mama.

Speaker 2 I like my situation, mama.

Speaker 2 You know, Lord, I ain't, I ain't, but I'm just saying.

Speaker 2 I just need to be 10. I need to be like 15 years.
Hold up, 15 years for. Damn, I still have been retired.

Speaker 2 Hey, I say 15 years ago, I'd have still been retired. Hill, I'm 42.
I'd still been retired. Damn.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Hey, I think about it.

Speaker 2 I did, Bobby. You did.
Hey, dog. Mama said,

Speaker 2 Mama had me at 25. My mama had a last kid at almost 26.
Mama said, I'm done. I'm done, done.
Had a first with an 18, last with it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Don't found a first with a 17.

Speaker 2 So.

Speaker 13 Even with all the nutritionists and all the amenities and resources and all this stuff they got going on,

Speaker 13 I probably wouldn't have done none of this to you.

Speaker 2 But I would have. Boy, you know how much money you could have saved?

Speaker 2 Wait, no, no, I'm not doing it. Oh, you talking about the fool?

Speaker 2 Oh, I'm doing all that.

Speaker 2 They got massage therapy. They got PTs.
Yeah.

Speaker 13 Hey, I ain't even doing that.

Speaker 13 I can tell you how many times.

Speaker 13 I played 11, 12 years. I probably got a massage twice.

Speaker 13 I probably got a massage twice. I mean, I don't know what it was about me.
I took care of my body because when it's time to work, boy, I'm going crazy.

Speaker 13 But all that physical therapy and getting stressed and

Speaker 13 them pushing on you. Nah, hell.

Speaker 2 Hey, we used to have

Speaker 2 on Mondays.

Speaker 2 You got a 30-minute rub, you got a 30-minute massage for free.

Speaker 2 We started losing.

Speaker 2 They took that out of me. I ain't see him no more.

Speaker 2 I ain't see him no more, Ocho. But

Speaker 2 I got a massage

Speaker 2 twice a week for,

Speaker 2 I don't know, probably till 2022.

Speaker 13 And hey, listen, TA, when TJ was there, TJ always going to get a massage, always taking care of his body, doing all this stuff. Hey, hey, OJo, why don't you come get...

Speaker 13 I say, man, T, you know I'm not doing that, man. I'm going home, man.

Speaker 2 I'm going home.

Speaker 13 Man, the practice, don't we go watch film, we go watch practice. Man, I'm out of here.
They going to, you know, stretch and do all this extra stuff. Man, I'm gone.
T.O. was there.
Man, this man, T.O.

Speaker 13 was ridiculous. He was a madman when it came to taking care of his body.
I'm saying, man, why is you on that goddamn phone thing?

Speaker 2 The little phone.

Speaker 13 I'm like, I'm like, T, man, that junk don't do nothing, man.

Speaker 13 Man, he right, he was. We ain't even out to practice yet.
He in the locker room rolling.

Speaker 2 Man,

Speaker 13 I'm sitting there, earphones on, ready to go, full practice, ready to go to practice. I'm out there.
We in the stretch line. I ain't even stretching.
I'm talking the whole time.

Speaker 2 I'm so, so stretchy, but that's the time to talk. Man, who did what?

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 2 That's the gossip time, Ocho. Ocho, former Dolphins long snapper tweeted.
The report cards have been a catalyst for incredible change within some organizations.

Speaker 2 The ability to be open to feedback and make changes for the better is something that I have a ton of respect for.

Speaker 2 First-hand example: during my time in Miami, one of the first report cards revealed an opportunity for growth when it came to family care on game day.

Speaker 2 The next year was game day care with players' families on game day. Staff members dedicated to making sure players' family were

Speaker 2 well cared for, and access to an air-conditioned space where family with young kids can get a reprieve from the heat. Bottom line: if you don't like the score, there's a choice you can make.

Speaker 2 See?

Speaker 2 If you don't want your laundry out there,

Speaker 2 you don't want that report card, don't you?

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Speaker 2 You're right.

Speaker 13 But

Speaker 13 you got to think about how the owners look at it too.

Speaker 2 Now, you got to think about how

Speaker 13 this facility and these amenities and these resources, but we paying you 20, 30,

Speaker 13 10, 15 million dollars, whatever it may be. Now, now

Speaker 13 you want us to take care of your family too?

Speaker 13 You want us to make sure all of them good?

Speaker 13 I'm just telling you how they're thinking. Now we got to fuck over more money outside of what we're already paying you to make sure everybody.

Speaker 2 Nah, uh-uh.

Speaker 13 Uh-uh.

Speaker 2 Uh-uh.

Speaker 2 See?

Speaker 13 I'm just saying how they probably.

Speaker 2 No, but that's the thing.

Speaker 2 Ocho, if, if, when

Speaker 2 restaurants, do they get grades?

Speaker 2 Oh, absolutely. Why would they give them a grade, Ocho?

Speaker 13 Oh, listen, to let people know, do you need to eat?

Speaker 2 That's why they give these owners and grade and organizations a grade to let them know what they need to change and do better.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 13 But the funny thing about this is these owners, you know, whether these grades are A's or F's, when it's time for that contract, and if they paying you, you know, you're going.

Speaker 2 You're going.

Speaker 13 Now, it's a bad look for them because they don't want that staining.

Speaker 2 No, exactly.

Speaker 13 That stain on their

Speaker 13 stain on their franchise. So they might want to clean it up.

Speaker 13 So the grades are a good thing to force owners to clean up

Speaker 13 some things that it would probably ignore in other cases.

Speaker 2 Some things that, you know, hey, maybe like the snapper said, you know, you know, child care for, you know, on game day, an area that, you know, in Miami, it gets hot.

Speaker 2 I'm sure you don't want no four, five, six-year-olds sitting out there in that beaming hot sun in South Florida

Speaker 2 in

Speaker 2 July, August, September.

Speaker 13 Yeah, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 And in Denver, you don't want no kid in that cold.

Speaker 2 You don't want to go to the game and then all of a sudden take your kid

Speaker 2 in the area.

Speaker 13 And the fray, the first thing an owner will say, well, we pay you enough money, leave your kid at home with a name, whether it's hot or whether it's cold.

Speaker 2 No, but some teams provide that, don't you?

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah, they do. They do.
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Speaker 2 The media was pretty sure was pretty sure Paul Podesta just took a shot at Kevin Stefanski in his first press conference with the Rockets. The reporter asked a question.

Speaker 2 You received a lot of blame for the Deshaun Watson trade. That was objectively a failure.
How can you be assured that you won't do something like that again here in Colorado?

Speaker 2 Deepodesta said, you know, I was also calling the plays for the Browns. Ha ha ha.

Speaker 2 Then he went on to say, those are organizational decisions, those are done collaboratively with a lot of people on board. He ain't lying.

Speaker 2 Guess who had to sign off on that?

Speaker 2 That owner.

Speaker 13 Mr. Haslam.

Speaker 2 Jimmy Haslam. Jimmy and D.

Speaker 2 Because everything that goes out is D and Jimmy Haslam. So D and Jimmy signed off on it.

Speaker 2 Okay, yeah, we get an opportunity. Look, we get an opportunity to get what we think is a franchise quarterback.
That's what we got. That's what we think.
That's an opportunity.

Speaker 2 No quarterback, no franchise quarterback has ever become available at 26 years of age with not. Peyton Manning came available because what?

Speaker 2 The Doctors only gave him a 10, 15% chance to ever be, to be able to, he ends up winning an MVP, winning a Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Drew Brees became available because what? His shoulder was almost tore off the bone. Tom Brady became available.
Tom Brady was 40 years old,

Speaker 2 40, 41 years of age. So no quarterback, no franchise quarterback had ever become available with no injury history at 26 years of age.
Now,

Speaker 2 obviously, there are some things that came out, but they knew that. They said, okay.
Yeah. But we still believe this is the guy.

Speaker 2 We finally, after all these years, basically since Otto Graham, I mean, look, Bernie was good for a period of time, and even Tester Bernie had some good years.

Speaker 2 But basically, we got to go back to Otto Graham to have a consistency at that position. And we got him, and he's 26 years of age.
It didn't work.

Speaker 2 Oh, Joe, it didn't work.

Speaker 2 Whatever reason was, maybe it was that. Maybe it was a situation he got hurt.
Yo, Joe, you remember? He missed the first, first of all, he didn't play that last year in Houston.

Speaker 2 And he missed the first 11 games. So basically, he went two years

Speaker 2 without playing.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 Then he gets hurt. Then

Speaker 2 he hurts his shoulder. Then he tears his Achilles.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 I don't begrudge them for trying to get a franchise quarterback. And they believe they had one was available and they believed they had it.

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 2 It didn't work.

Speaker 2 But everybody wants to put it just like that, Nico. Everybody wants to put that on Nico.

Speaker 13 Nico, no. Dumont.

Speaker 2 He could have said no.

Speaker 13 Yeah, you sure could.

Speaker 2 But guess what he did? He nodded yes and he meant no.

Speaker 13 I mean, the funny thing about it is, I still, for the life of me, I can't understand what Nico Collin can go and tell Dumont that would agree him to say.

Speaker 2 He really didn't want to play. First of all, he really didn't want to play because

Speaker 2 he sees where these salaries are going. So you give Luca.
So guess what? You give Luca 345. Guess what his next contract deals, Ocho?

Speaker 2 what

Speaker 2 buy something he's gonna be the first he's gonna be the first player to make 80 million dollars a year

Speaker 2 with his next contract which will be around in 28 he'll be able to sign a five-year extension now think about it now in 28 he'll only be 28 29 years of age

Speaker 2 yes

Speaker 2 That's cool. So

Speaker 2 they are like,

Speaker 2 really, they really like

Speaker 2 345.

Speaker 2 Okay, that's one player. How do we build a team? Well, we got Anthony Davis.
We got another, we got him on the hook for three years at like 150.

Speaker 2 We got Kai Reebuck on the books.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 13 it's not the same, though.

Speaker 2 I know, but I'm saying he's looking at it like, I've got to pay.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, from that.

Speaker 2 Yeah, that's how he's looking at it. Because at the end of the, oh, you're at the end of the day, it's still about making, it's still about, look,

Speaker 2 as a business, I'm trying to, I'm trying, it ain't how much, that's how much you keep.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 2 So they're like, oh, I understand it takes money to make money, but I want to spend as little money as I possibly can

Speaker 2 while making as much as I possibly can.

Speaker 2 Yeah, he did take a shot. Ocho, Justin Jefferson says he wants to get back to savage.
and effort mode from 2023. Let's take a listen to what Jeddah had to say.

Speaker 17 I only can control the things that I can't control.

Speaker 17 And personally, mentally, just wanting to get back into that mode, into I like to say savage mode.

Speaker 17 So, I mean, it's just going out there with that effort mentality and just going out there and just killing it and not worrying about the plays, not worrying about anything else that I, just like you said, can't control.

Speaker 17 Just doing everything that I can't control and making the most of my opportunities.

Speaker 2 Why do you think you haven't been in that mode if you haven't?

Speaker 17 Life,

Speaker 17 you know, just different things going on in my life and

Speaker 17 just wanting to get back to that kid phase of loving.

Speaker 17 I still love football, but overly loving football and overly loving just being out there on Sundays and making the big plays and just being a part of this great organization.

Speaker 17 So I just wanted to get back mentally into

Speaker 17 that mode.

Speaker 2 Long story short, my quarterbacks suck here. Y'all see it, but

Speaker 2 I'm going to put it on me and not throw them guys under the bus. But my quarterbacks suck rhinoceros bone.

Speaker 13 Yeah. I mean,

Speaker 13 I like the angle he's taking to with it.

Speaker 2 I thought you like truth.

Speaker 2 You like truth. Yeah.

Speaker 13 Hey, yes, yes. Hold on, hold on.

Speaker 13 I'm with you. You're right.
But I don't like some of the comments Justin has been saying lately. Everything he's been saying has been real.
Real politically correct. I don't like that.

Speaker 13 I need that dog. I need that dog, Justin Jefferson.
I need that Justin Jefferson out the boot. I need that Justin Jefferson, you know, that had the grill in his mouth, you know, that when he scored,

Speaker 13 he hit that thing, you know, you know. I need that Justin Jefferson.

Speaker 13 He's, to me, in a little bit, because now he's a leader, because now he's,

Speaker 13 I'm assuming he's probably a captain as well.

Speaker 13 Some of that, that edge that made him him, that made him special, top two in the league, is gone a little bit.

Speaker 13 I don't care if the goddamn Pope was the quarterback. When it comes to a player like Justin Jefferson, when 18 is out there, man, ain't nothing stopping that.
Nothing.

Speaker 13 And I think a little bit of that is gotten away from him, worried about everything else around him that he can't control.

Speaker 13 You one of the few players, regardless of what's around you, you gonna get the job done, which is why you're paid a hefty goddamn ransom because you one of the few that can do that.

Speaker 13 So,

Speaker 13 I want him to get back to that.

Speaker 13 I don't even know how to do the move. I'm too old for that.

Speaker 2 But,

Speaker 2 yeah. Hey, I think the thing is, Ocho is that

Speaker 2 he ain't realized how much he's going to miss First Cousin.

Speaker 2 He said, Well, damn, oh, Sam Donald ain't that bad. Hey, I got Sam D.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Hey, y'all.

Speaker 2 Now, y'all want me to put up the same type of numbers and y'all keep keep

Speaker 2 now come on now.

Speaker 2 You want me to make a

Speaker 2 Kobe

Speaker 2 A5?

Speaker 2 That ain't what you giving me now.

Speaker 2 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 13 This is the thing, now

Speaker 13 this is the thing. Now,

Speaker 13 Sam Donald,

Speaker 13 Matthew Stafford,

Speaker 13 but it comes down to the play call

Speaker 13 to me.

Speaker 13 I don't care who's throwing the ball. J.J.
McCarthy, Carson Wentz.

Speaker 13 Put just, you can't cover him. You can't cover him.
Because

Speaker 13 you can move players around if you want to get them the ball. We've seen Sean McVay's offense do it.
We saw Mike McDonald do it now with JSN over there in goddamn Seattle.

Speaker 2 But look what they played. Let me ask you a question.
You think JSN doing that with Sam.

Speaker 2 Let me ask you a question, honestly. You think he's doing that with Carson Wentz and J.J.
McCarthy?

Speaker 13 different type of offense,

Speaker 2 different types of that's really the West Coast offense. It's really the same offense.

Speaker 2 I mean,

Speaker 2 if you think about OJo Edge, those numbers that he's putting up, you got to have somebody really good pulling the trigger.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 Wentz played okay, but

Speaker 2 and Jetta had, but

Speaker 2 he going through this thing, and until you get a quarterback that's consistent,

Speaker 2 right? Oh, Joe, you know how this thing is, man.

Speaker 13 Yeah, oh, you ain't, yeah, listen. You ain't got to tell me.
You don't.

Speaker 13 You ain't got to tell me.

Speaker 2 You probably have how many quarterbacks you have? You had Fitz, you had Carson. Did you have anybody else in Cincinnati?

Speaker 13 Scott Mitchell, John Kittner,

Speaker 13 Gus Ferrat, and

Speaker 13 Yeah, that was it.

Speaker 13 But listen,

Speaker 13 I acted a fool with every last one of

Speaker 13 Every

Speaker 13 acted a fool.

Speaker 2 Who do you go to the Pro Bowl with? Carson?

Speaker 13 Carson? Kitna?

Speaker 13 Yep. We have Scott Mitchell.
Did I say

Speaker 2 you said Scott Mitchell, Gus Faron?

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah,

Speaker 13 there was some days, but I mean, there's certain players, you know, them tier one receivers, boy, I don't care, man. I don't matter who at quarterback, boy.
I'm finna be open, boy. Period.

Speaker 13 Call my number. I'm gonna be there for you.

Speaker 2 Oh, Joe, check this out.

Speaker 2 In the wake of the highly publicized sports gambling scandal that have impacted NBA, MLB, and NFL is working on implementing new policies in order to curb such risk in its own game.

Speaker 2 The league sent out memos today indicating that it had begun actively engaging with state lawmakers and NFL sports betting partners to limit or potential outright ban prop bet. Come on, man!

Speaker 2 Ocho, you think this is a smart move?

Speaker 2 I mean. Oh, Joe, I want to bet.
If I want to bet that, if I want to bet Chase

Speaker 2 is going to have 95 yards, let me do that. If you're going to have 10 catches, let me do that.

Speaker 2 So now I just got to bet. Win, lose, over, under.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Nah, hell no.

Speaker 13 Listen, it's unfortunate. It's not going to change now.

Speaker 13 They've already implemented.

Speaker 13 They're going to enforce it. And that's just what it is.
Now we just have to

Speaker 13 is it making the game safer for those that are playing, for those that are actually, you know, that are actually gambling? Maybe. It might work.
It might not.

Speaker 13 I think those that love to gamble and have an urge and

Speaker 13 are enthusiasts and love the rut, the adrenaline and rush that it brings, they still gonna do it. They're gonna find a way to do it.
They're gonna find a way to do it.

Speaker 2 Every time. But at that point in time, Ocho, all you can bet is the over-under.

Speaker 2 the money. Like, come on, man.

Speaker 2 The prop bets, oh, it's the props that really get people into it,

Speaker 2 right? Because now I got this big old parlay, I got this fall, I got this 40-50 parlay that I put $20 on. This thing might pay off about a meal, too.

Speaker 13 Yeah, it might, but not no more.

Speaker 2 They ain't gonna ban. They just saying that they're trying to scare us.

Speaker 2 Hell yeah, they ain't gonna do it.

Speaker 2 They like the sports betting partners.

Speaker 2 Oh, they do. Yeah, you

Speaker 13 do.

Speaker 13 That would take a lot

Speaker 13 if they do do that.

Speaker 2 Shiloh Sanders is going viral for only leaving a $50 tip. Ocho, watch this.

Speaker 2 All right. Thank you very much.
How much are you just slain in tips? No, I'm not.

Speaker 2 Nothing.

Speaker 2 I'm going to put a negative tip where you have to pay me. Okay.
All right, a a 50 tip for being mean today thank you very much i'm gonna post it on youtube as a cheap ass

Speaker 2 football player give me fifty dollar gee that's good

Speaker 2 oh i forgot this is biggest

Speaker 2 all right appreciate it

Speaker 2 oh cho has tip and culture got out of control now

Speaker 13 I mean, not really.

Speaker 13 I'd like to consider myself the one that sets somewhat a standard for some of us that have the means to be able to bless those who work in the service industry. I make it a point

Speaker 13 to overtip tremendously. I mean,

Speaker 2 y'all overtip me. 5,900, 5,950.
Since you like to overtip me.

Speaker 13 Hey, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 13 I love to take care of my people in the service industry, no matter where I go. I think they love to see me walking through the door.

Speaker 13 That's just me. That's just me.
You know, I'm, God loves the cheerful giver.

Speaker 13 I don't do it for that reason, but that's just something i've always done um i think 50 is good i think 50 is good i don't know how much the bill the bill came to but knowing that if based on the percentage that they say you're supposed to tip i guarantee you 150.

Speaker 13 oh choo so i i think i think you tip well oh choose now

Speaker 2 a lot of times you go to places the tip the gratuity is already included

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah, most of the time.

Speaker 2 I mean, when they bring you room service, the service charge is already included.

Speaker 2 And they got a tip.

Speaker 2 Okay, and I got a tip for you. Don't eat egg, salad, and ride the bus.

Speaker 2 Please don't. Because I ain't got nothing for you.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Ocho, how if I go to how do I go to self-checkout and they talk about tip? Uh-huh.

Speaker 2 I want to know. Tell me that.
Okay, answer me that, Ocho. I'm checking myself out.
And you want me to leave a tip? Okay, I call in, get takeout. You want, what did you do?

Speaker 2 All you do is ringing up my order and you want a tip?

Speaker 2 Man, y'all better get out my tip. See, I don't forget about my tip.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. See,

Speaker 13 you're a little different.

Speaker 13 You're a different. You're a little different.

Speaker 13 I don't care how service is.

Speaker 13 Whether you might be having a bad day, I understand

Speaker 13 all the

Speaker 13 attitudes you have to deal with, all the personalities you have to deal with. So when I come in, I always want to be kind to whoever my waiter is.

Speaker 2 I'm going to be kind.

Speaker 13 Yeah, I mean, I know what you mean.

Speaker 13 I'm just saying sometimes they you they be having a bad day You don't know what they've been through you don't know what they're going through so i always make it an effort i always make an effort no matter how much my bill is and you i mean people that followed me over the years you know

Speaker 13 it could be twenty dollars it could be fifty dollars it could be a hundred dollars i'm always tipping a thousand dollars wherever i'm at whether it be i hop you know whether i mean i mean i mean this this is this has been routine for me for the past 15 years guess what ojo so i mean i might have had a bad day do you know what i had to do to get this money that i got

Speaker 13 right right right right right yeah you were you worked your ass off money though huh yeah you did you did I I tip you know

Speaker 2 mainly probably about 30 I'm normally 30

Speaker 2 that's I'm 30

Speaker 2 okay that's good you know

Speaker 2 car come you know normally I'm you know 40 50 dollars for you know valet

Speaker 2 man but the thing is I mean but now Ocho it's like the

Speaker 2 the tip gratuity whatever you want to call it it service charge is already added.

Speaker 2 So, you want 18%

Speaker 2 service charge and a tip on top of it?

Speaker 2 Man, y'all do they doing too much, man.

Speaker 13 I like it.

Speaker 2 Yeah, what happened to, hold on, ocho, what happened to 10%? Now they don't even start at 10%. They start at 15, 18.

Speaker 2 They want 15 18 22 25

Speaker 13 and you got to understand you got to understand right when you think about the service industry right they rely on these tips they they rely on these tips

Speaker 2 oh joe they rely on they need that

Speaker 2 i understand that and

Speaker 2 and you can't you can't take a

Speaker 2 I get it that they rely on these tips, but they chose that. It's like, you know, they don't pay anything in teaching.

Speaker 13 You know that going into it you can't take a job and then complain about the pay when you knew the pay was subpar to begin with right but but that that's very that's very hard also uncle you have to you have to think about the american people and how difficult it is to get a job sometimes you you you you get a degree in a certain in a certain profession and it's hard to get you know a job in in in in in in what you graduated with and what you study four years to be in sometimes you just can't crack it but you have to find a way to make a living and sometimes you have to go you know, work in the service industry.

Speaker 2 I don't have no problem with that, Ocho, but you can't.

Speaker 13 I know, I know you don't. I know you don't, but I take all of that into account when I go to restaurants at times.

Speaker 13 So that's why I over-tip and always tip, you know, a thousand, sometimes 500, you know, just to make sure, you know what, I don't know what's going on in your life. But I know one thing.

Speaker 13 When I leave here today, you're going to be

Speaker 2 the next person. They know that.
Most of the time when I go someplace, they know me. They know what's going on in my life.
They say, Mr. Sharp, we're going to tip you.
Here's $25 for you, Mr. Sharp.

Speaker 2 You say they're going to do that? That's what I think they're going to do that for me. Since they know about

Speaker 2 struggle, they know about struggles on you. They're going to break your boy off.
Don't even worry about it, Mr. Sharp.

Speaker 2 We're going to cover this bill for you.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Hey, and I see some people talk about Ocho Stop the Cap. Do me a favor.
Like, if you're in the chat right now,

Speaker 13 all you do is just go on Google and type in Ocho single tips. They all pop up there.
Hell, I tip, matter of fact uh remember i tipped them people five thousand dollars that time

Speaker 2 yeah

Speaker 2 chat y'all chat chat y'all see this

Speaker 13 this man no i'm not no i'm not no no no i'm not i'm not i'm not playing i'm i'm just saying that that one time like i was i was i was uh i was i was i was in the good spirit i was in the given spirit that person was having a bad day somebody had just passed away they had just had a child and uh i'm like what well damn that all that's going on and they crying i'm like well god damn i like Like, they made me, I was tearing up.

Speaker 13 So I'm like, you know,

Speaker 13 I ain't even say nothing. I just, I just wrote it down there and I walked out.

Speaker 2 I'm not, ocho. I'm not, if I order takeout, I'm not finna go up there, give you my credit card, and give you a tip for ringing up my order.

Speaker 2 If I'm at a restaurant and they bring me my meal or that, you know, I'm not constantly having to ask for things,

Speaker 2 I think 30% is a good tip amount. Cause normally I'm going, I'm going, I'm spending two, three, four four hundred dollars.

Speaker 2 God damn it, bro.

Speaker 13 With that being said, see, that's why you don't want, that's why you don't want to tip.

Speaker 13 You, you, you're spending, oh, that's why I don't eat, I don't eat at those kind of restaurants where my meals cost that much.

Speaker 2 Well, I'm taking, I'm taking my kids out, I'm taking my family out, so that's that's what I'm saying. I ain't got no problem tipping, but I'm not finna tip you.

Speaker 2 I come in and pick my order up, all you do is ring it up, and you think I'm about to give you $20, $30. No, I'm not.
Okay,

Speaker 13 okay, my bad, my bad my bad my bad see see you eat at nice places i eat at bahama breeze i eat at longhorn with the kids i go to ihop so the places i'm going my meals are never over 50 50 dollars which is why i'm i'm so willing to go large like i normally do you know so i mean but i i get it i get i understand we we we just different we just different in that area yeah no i don't i don't have no problem tipping like i said i'm normally no matter what valet is, if it's 20,

Speaker 2 I normally give $40, $50 for valet. That's just standard.
Hey, here you go, bro.

Speaker 2 But no, man,

Speaker 2 they're getting out of hand with this, OJo. They're getting out of hand.

Speaker 2 I mean, now you got self-checkout and they want to tip.

Speaker 2 Who getting the money?

Speaker 2 The computer had a bad day, too?

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 I guess he got a few little microchips when he gets home.

Speaker 2 Get out of my face, man. Y'all better look.

Speaker 13 Oh, hell no.

Speaker 13 That's funny.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Oh, Joe.
I tell you what, they having bad the restaurants should fit the bill. Say, you know what? I know the standard deal is like $7 an hour, $10 an hour.
We're going to pay y'all $25 an hour.

Speaker 2 We're going to pay y'all $30 an hour.

Speaker 2 It shouldn't be on the consumer.

Speaker 13 Yeah, you're right. You're right.

Speaker 13 And we're the only, I think, maybe if I'm not mistaken, we're the only place where most of the people in the service industry they don't make a livable wage whether hell ain't in the service industry the only one that don't make a livable wage there are a lot of more folks that don't make a livable living wage yeah yeah yeah yeah you're right you're right you're right you're right but but some of those other industries where those people work um

Speaker 13 there's nowhere you where you can tip them teachers teachers teachers are severely underpaid

Speaker 13 they are severely underpaid it's ridiculous especially for what they do and what they have to deal with especially the kids these days

Speaker 2 oh my god look the school system is turning all it turned into for the most part is daycare so the parents can go to work

Speaker 2 kids be bad as a mofo

Speaker 2 if you if you if your kid's bad at home and you know if your kid bad people like oh that don't that i am shocked i am appalled well i'm a david your kid bad And you said it's badass for me to have to deal with for what?

Speaker 2 What kids go to school from eight to three, eight to two?

Speaker 2 You couldn't wait to drop him off. He's sick.
Leave his sick ass, stay your ass home and stay with him. Bring his sick ass to school to get everybody else sick.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 2 man.

Speaker 13 Listen, if your kid is bad at home, you already know what that is when they get to school.

Speaker 2 It used to be, look,

Speaker 2 I don't know. I mean,

Speaker 2 there was kids. Look, I'm not going to sit here and say the kids

Speaker 2 didn't misbehave, but they kids now they getting out of control. They getting out of control.
Kids getting out of control, man.

Speaker 13 And

Speaker 13 they putting their hands on teachers. They talking back.
They doing all kinds of stuff, right?

Speaker 2 I thought that's at home.

Speaker 2 I felt that at home.

Speaker 2 Ain't no way. A kid behave like that.

Speaker 2 The kid behave. He's bad at home.
She bad at home.

Speaker 2 Yeah. Because ain't no way Mary Porter would have sent me the act of the fool.

Speaker 2 Because

Speaker 2 I done got my tail toe up before going to school. So I'm going to be on my best behavior because they they miss running call Mary Porter.
Then you're going to get it again?

Speaker 2 Before school and after school? Oh, no.

Speaker 13 After, at the school.

Speaker 13 If they call Bessie May flowers, hold on. If they call Bessie Mayflowers and she got to leave the school, where she at to come to my school,

Speaker 2 I'm going to take the phone off the hook. I get home and take the phone out the hook.

Speaker 13 Hey, like my grandma say, wherever you show out.

Speaker 13 That's exactly where you get whoa.

Speaker 2 Ocho.

Speaker 13 You want to show off in class?

Speaker 13 I'm going to whoop your ass in class.

Speaker 2 Hey, I'll take the phone off the hook.

Speaker 2 Who left this phone off the hook? I don't know.

Speaker 2 There'd be uh

Speaker 13 a school caller, it'd be busy as hell.

Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, you got no business caller here.

Speaker 2 Me no live here.

Speaker 2 Yeah, but look,

Speaker 2 like I said, I don't have a problem tipping. I tip anybody that's ever waited on, served me, or I've gone places.
I tip. I do.
I ain't got no problem tipping.

Speaker 2 Hey, every, I leave the hotel, Locho, I leave $30, $40 beside the bed, clean. They come in, turn down service, I give them $30, $40.
I bring a little extra cash because if I'm on the road

Speaker 2 to clean my room, hey, boom. They're going to leave a couple of extra bottles of water.
You need extra towels, face clothes, something like that. Okay, cool.
I ain't got no problem.

Speaker 2 I don't have a problem tipping.

Speaker 2 Well, I think y'all know that last night. I mean, Joe had his thing, and I was like, optimus.
And you see, he already tweeted because it's already done.

Speaker 2 So I ain't got no problem helping. But nah, man,

Speaker 2 they just trying to do too much, man. They trying to do too much.

Speaker 2 Somebody talking about Unk cheap. I just gave Joe 10 grand last night.
Y'all talking about Unk cheap.

Speaker 13 Well, dad, you gave Joe 10 grand.

Speaker 13 Why you hopping on me about that?

Speaker 2 You know I gave Joe 10 grand. You were supposed to match it.
We were supposed to feed 500 people in Atlanta.

Speaker 13 No, you, hold on. You, how you just going to throw them out there for me? You don't know what I got.

Speaker 2 I'm talking about you, you tipping. You talking about, oh, we're going to tip.
We're going to tip $1,000.

Speaker 2 You're trying to spend my money on that. Hold on.

Speaker 13 $1,000 and $10,000. That's two totally, but I got 37 goddamn kids.
You talk about just give 10, 10,000 away. I got kids that got to feed Christmas coming up.

Speaker 2 You just tip something. You just tip somebody.
You just tip one person,

Speaker 2 $1,500, $5,000. I just fed 250 people.

Speaker 13 Well, I fed, I fed 25 people.

Speaker 13 I'm surprised why Joe A tweet about me.

Speaker 2 $40, you said $40.

Speaker 13 Nah, nah, I sent, what?

Speaker 13 Maybe, I think she sent $2,000.

Speaker 13 Yeah, we know we're going to feed all of them. We ain't going to feed that many.

Speaker 2 Hey,

Speaker 2 hello. How many $2,000 feed?

Speaker 13 what was it? 50?

Speaker 2 100?

Speaker 2 50.

Speaker 13 50. Oh, that's that's a good number.

Speaker 2 That's a good number. That's a good number.
You should spend 250.

Speaker 2 I thought we were going to feed 500. Argadocho nightcap.

Speaker 2 Feed 500 home and families. Yeah.
Everybody's like, yes. Yeah, Argadocho, yeah.

Speaker 13 Hey, I fed 50.

Speaker 13 Man, Jesus, Jesus, hey, Jesus had a fish and two loaves of bread.

Speaker 2 He fed 5,000, though.

Speaker 13 Yeah, well, I ain't got that.

Speaker 13 No, no, no.

Speaker 13 Two loaves of bread and some fish.

Speaker 13 Hey,

Speaker 13 God loves the chill forgiver.

Speaker 13 Hey,

Speaker 13 what's the preacher that lost the dough? Let's say you are.

Speaker 2 Yeah, now they talk about, hey.

Speaker 2 The Lord told me somebody go, hey, 21 people go give me $1,000 today.

Speaker 2 So you ask him, hey, where they get that money from? That's what you need to have because it ain't me.

Speaker 2 Because, hey, they pass that pan around. You're going to think about the game, Ocho.
The wave, yeah, pass on through.

Speaker 13 Every time they come, hey, you know, you know, you know, God don't like noise.

Speaker 2 No, God don't like noise.

Speaker 13 Hey, don't put no change in there. God don't like no noise.

Speaker 2 But look, I ain't got, like I said, I ain't got no problem tipping, but you know,

Speaker 2 they getting out of hand. They're trying to sneak it in there, Ocho.
It's already in the bill, and they put it down there. Tip,

Speaker 2 bro, you already done charged 18%.

Speaker 2 And then you're going to talk about

Speaker 2 15, 18, 22, 25, 28, 30.

Speaker 13 And you know, they're going to write thank you with a little heart and a little smile and a little smiley face.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 13 I don't know.

Speaker 2 I'm going to draw one back with a sprown.

Speaker 2 Hey, that's all I got for you, Ocho. Like I said, I ain't got no problem, but hey,

Speaker 2 they doing too much. Now they just think everybody just stand there and just

Speaker 2 I guess, I guess we supposed to agreeters and seaters.

Speaker 2 Somebody to walk you, I guess somebody you supposed to pay somebody, do they? You supposed to tip when they walk you to your seat, your table?

Speaker 13 Hey, everybody, everybody need a tip.

Speaker 2 No, hell no. All right, we're going to get you out of here on this one.
It's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.

Speaker 2 T.S. Car Washington Detail Service.
Uncle What is something that your grandpa told you that stood out with you for your whole life that's same for Ocho and his grandma? Ocho, you want to go first?

Speaker 13 Something that my grandmother and grandfather always told me, I think,

Speaker 13 my favorite saying, my favorite saying, which is one of the the reasons why I am

Speaker 13 as as as financially conscious as I've always been which is why I probably not a statistic being I think maybe 87 or almost damn near 90% of us you know go broke two years after we removed from the game of football and I learned it at an early age and having financial discipline and my grandma always told me and my grandfather as well a fool and his money shall soon part ways especially when you don't when you don't move right when when money and and and image becomes your identity and you get lost you get lost in in in trying to look and trying to look rich you know and i i think i was i was i was really good at understanding that the value was not anything i could purchase it was me and myself and my name alone was the true value and and it just didn't make sense in in taking my money and and making somebody else rich to prove to others that i got money

Speaker 13 It just didn't make sense to me.

Speaker 13 And so,

Speaker 13 that one little phrase that stuck with me forever and still to this day.

Speaker 2 Yeah, I think the thing that he said, never mistake habit for hard work.

Speaker 2 He said, Just because you do something over and over, don't mean you're working hard. And the analogy I like to use is people go to the gym.
Man, I go to the gym every day, you look the same.

Speaker 2 That's a habit.

Speaker 2 You ain't working hard.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I make sure

Speaker 2 whatever I do,

Speaker 2 I'm working hard. Tino Davis says, is it fair to label Justin Fields a bust?

Speaker 2 It's hard to say a guy that came from his situation that made it to the NFL, but the expectations, he has not met expectations.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 you know, I think the thing is, Ocho, is that

Speaker 2 when you look at

Speaker 2 professional athletes,

Speaker 2 everybody ain't going to pay it out.

Speaker 2 They make it seem like every restaurant that opened.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 if a restaurant is open, so I've seen restaurants, Dantana's in Atlanta. It's been a staple.
It's closing. So is it a failure?

Speaker 2 Restaurants stay open for 10 years and close. Is it a failure?

Speaker 2 So I just want to, so I'm just trying to,

Speaker 2 how do we judge it?

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 2 Everybody is not going to be Brady Manning. I don't care.

Speaker 2 Everybody's not going to have that level of success or have the level of success that we thought they would have or have or maybe they even thought they would have.

Speaker 2 Right.

Speaker 2 And I just think for me, just watching him and watching him over the years, I just don't know if he's ever going to be what we thought he would be.

Speaker 2 TJ, my Patriots are back nine and two on the dirty, uh, on to the dirty Tigers. Oh, they're gonna put something on y'all.
Ah, they're gonna put something on y'all.

Speaker 2 Oh, Gonzalez, Gonzalez. Wait, hold on.

Speaker 13 Okay, wait. Okay, you know what? That means the Bengals, the Bengals play the Patriots, then they play the Dolphins.

Speaker 2 It's over for y'all. It's over.

Speaker 13 Hey, I don't know. Oh, I do.

Speaker 2 That defense. Listen to me.
It's over now. It's over now.
And y'all quarterback not mobile. So y'all quarterback not going to be able to get away from

Speaker 2 the

Speaker 13 you know we open up the game with the quick game.

Speaker 13 We open up the game to a quick game. And Gonzalez gonna have his hands full with T or

Speaker 2 you know where Gonzalez going. You know what Gonzalez goes.
Okay.

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 He's going to have a long day. Okay.
Not as long as y'all.

Speaker 2 Eli Brable to the Falcons would have fed families with the talent on that team. I think Raheem is gone if they lose to the Panthers on Sunday.
I think you're right.

Speaker 2 After the season, though. Tino Davis, Ocho, you know how I told y'all my uncle passed.
So on Saturday, I'm burying my uncle in a custom jersey with y'all number. Team colors keep being amazing.

Speaker 2 Tino, man, thank you, man. We're sorry, it's so hard, so sorry to hear about the passing of your uncle, man.
But thank you so much for your support.

Speaker 2 God

Speaker 2 bless and stay up, man. I appreciate that, man.
That means a lot to us.

Speaker 2 Edie, I just think Justin had potential, but is currently scared mentally and emotionally. Watch his rookie year versus the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 He's broken his mind, but he has shown he has the ability. His first two years, Bears broke him completely.

Speaker 2 Well, look, he's shown flashes. You see flashes? Oh, Joe, you saw the comeback that he had against Cincinnati.

Speaker 2 Oh, yeah. So we've seen flashes, but we see, we don't see enough.
We see more things that cause you like, damn,

Speaker 2 than things that we say, oh, yeah, okay, now we see more of the other versus the latter. So

Speaker 2 I just hope he can get it figured out. That's what I do.
True and infamous 73, how ironic. Mike Brable entered the Patriots dynasty in 2019, only to go there and rebuild it back again.

Speaker 2 Isn't that ironic?

Speaker 2 Don't you think?

Speaker 13 That's crazy.

Speaker 2 General Serrogency, Peyton Manning is overrated just like Lamar. Beast in the regular season, trash in the playoffs.
Peyton gave his dad's team their first Super Bowl.

Speaker 2 Okay. You say it's overrated?

Speaker 13 It's your opinion.

Speaker 2 Danny Lilja, Uncle Nocho, Curry leaving Undarmor. What's your reaction? Surprised?

Speaker 2 Nike probably say, hey, you know what? We let this man get away. We ain't going to let him get away twice.
Because,

Speaker 2 think about it.

Speaker 2 Jokic is with some.

Speaker 2 I think he's launching his own brand.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 But he can go. He can wear his own.
He can wear, for the time being.

Speaker 13 Yeah, he's... Yeah, I think

Speaker 13 Steph says he's going to go independent, huh?

Speaker 2 Oh, you're going to go independent?

Speaker 13 I mean,

Speaker 13 that's what I saw. You're gonna go independent unless Nike come in there with something crazy.
Okay,

Speaker 2 okay, do your thing, Curry.

Speaker 2 Trey, hey, Uncanocho, what's the most dominant quarterback in you guys' era, in your opinion?

Speaker 13 I mean, Brady, obviously, especially my era.

Speaker 2 Well, I caught a lot of errors.

Speaker 2 I caught Joe Montana. I was in Joe, Elway, Marino, Brady, Manning,

Speaker 2 Steve Young,

Speaker 2 Brady.

Speaker 2 Brady won 02. I only called Brady

Speaker 2 one year.

Speaker 2 They won it 03. No, they won it.
My last year, they won it two, 03, because I retired in 04. So

Speaker 2 two years.

Speaker 2 And I remember playing Brady in 02.

Speaker 2 I'm like, damn, he won the Super Bowl? I didn't see it.

Speaker 2 Man, the next year,

Speaker 2 by last year in Denver, man, I just threw a game with a touchdown on us with like 30 seconds of the clock.

Speaker 2 I said, yeah, yeah, he good. He's going to be good.
Oh, wow.

Speaker 2 Oh, man.

Speaker 2 I'm going my quarterback. Seven.

Speaker 2 Quentin May, should I start following these players' wives for my parlay feeling? Hashtag feelings. Oh, man.

Speaker 2 i guess

Speaker 2 uh

Speaker 2 i i just think the thing is i mean people think oh joe you know you play in the nfl and it's kind of like the college coach is gonna pick you up or the high school coach pick you up or your junior high coach it's not like that in pro

Speaker 2 it's not no that's why a lot of times they have therapists they need somebody to go talk to sports psychologists or whatever the case may be when it's going bad they have somebody to talk to or they talk to a a former coach or they talk to a former friend or someone to bounce things off of because that ain't what the head coach is and that's not what because they have so many other things going on.

Speaker 2 Trucker with East, Sharp and Ocho, the GOATs, trucking with E. Appreciate that, man.
Thank you for your support. Thanks for tuning in.

Speaker 2 Nicholas Jeffries, Uncle Ocho, will you guys ever do an interview at the Breakfast Club with Charlemagne the Garde, Jess, DJ Envy? I think that would be a great sit-down.

Speaker 2 Ocho, you did one, did you

Speaker 13 yeah yeah i i did i i did one on behalf of hbcu and uh and hold up how you went to hbcu you ain't got no hbcu

Speaker 2 i i represent one

Speaker 2 hold up

Speaker 13 i'm i'm a great i'm a great representative and ambassador for the highest of the seven hills florida a m

Speaker 2 you went to oregon state

Speaker 13 I was at Oregon State for two months.

Speaker 2 You wasn't that, oh, you wasn't at fam?

Speaker 13 Hey, listen, I was at at Oregon State for 12 months.

Speaker 2 How many months were you at Fam?

Speaker 13 Listen, I've been at Fam You since 1984.

Speaker 13 I've been a part of Fam You since

Speaker 2 1984.

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah, since 1984.

Speaker 2 Been a rattler.

Speaker 13 Highest of the seven hills.

Speaker 2 Oh,

Speaker 2 would I go sit down with Charlemagne, the God, Jazz, DJ?

Speaker 2 I would consider it.

Speaker 2 I got to make the rounds. I got to make the rounds at some point in time.

Speaker 2 I got a couple of people on my list. I'm going to go sit down with.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Penn Steve is 32. Perfect way to start my birthday watching my favorite Unkin Ocho.

Speaker 2 Could you guys please shout out my wife, Amanda, who's the most amazing wife and mother that me and our kids could ask for? Absolutely. Amanda, happy birthday.

Speaker 2 Hubby says, you're an amazing wife and an amazing mother. That is a great combination.
Say he couldn't ask for a better wife, a better partner, better companion. So happy birthday.

Speaker 2 Enjoy this day, this very, very special day, and many, many more to come. Thank you.
Pen, thank you for watching, bro. Appreciate you supporting us.
TJ, love all.

Speaker 2 Y'all are amazing at everything y'all talk about. Keep up the good work.
I just wanted to let you guys know.

Speaker 2 TJ, thank you, bro. I appreciate that.

Speaker 2 we love hearing look we know we're not perfect um we try to do the best we possibly can but we appreciate support like that viet tran hey uncanocho cooper cup coming back to play the rams i remember payton ask him his return to play his former team uh but how was it for you when you played your former when you played the bingles did you play the bingles ocho

Speaker 13 nah

Speaker 2 um I played the I played the Broncos when I was the Broncos twice in the playoff game and the regular season, won both. And then I played the Ravens when I went back to Denver two times.
It was 0-2.

Speaker 2 It's obviously, you know, the difference is you walk into a different locker room.

Speaker 2 You know, you say your pleasantries, and you get ready to do your business.

Speaker 2 I remember when I went back to Baltimore with Denver, they had

Speaker 2 blueberry donuts waiting for me. When I went back to Denver with Baltimore, they had blueberry donuts in my locker waiting for me.
So, oh, yeah, it was great.

Speaker 2 Jason Zeldorf, Lamar is overhyped and overrated. The day he gets a ring is the day the world ends.

Speaker 2 Well, look,

Speaker 2 I figure he got it.

Speaker 2 I give him at listen, I think he can still play at the level that he's playing at for another five, eight years. That'll put him at 16.

Speaker 2 It's hard for me to see him as good as he is.

Speaker 2 Yeah,

Speaker 2 that he wants to get at least one. All he needs is one.

Speaker 2 He'll need five. He don't need six, seven like

Speaker 2 Brady or

Speaker 2 he needs one.

Speaker 2 Brie Carter, Ocho, what's your Bahama Breeze order? I usually get the beef empada. What's that?

Speaker 2 Empanadas? What is that?

Speaker 2 No, I don't. That's why I'm asking.

Speaker 2 It's like a filling with like a puff pastry around it.

Speaker 2 I've never had it.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Really? Any sort of filling? No, I ain't never heard of that. You know what a cow's on is? Yeah, yeah.
It's like that, but with like a button, different kinds of fillings. Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 You know what an empanada is, Ocho?

Speaker 13 Yeah, I don't eat them either. I know what it is, but I don't eat them.

Speaker 2 You can eat everything else, though. But okay, go ahead.
So, what's your order?

Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 Oh, my meal at Bahama Breeze is jerk chicken pasta, small portion, no asparagus with extra chicken, a side order of sweet plans, and a Coke with no ice.

Speaker 2 I ain't never been to

Speaker 2 Bahama Breeze, so I ain't got no order. Yeah, Flair said it's not a question, a title request, Ukodocho.
I'm Jamaican, and I'm a damn proud one.

Speaker 2 Please keep my country in your prayers, and we are still recovering. Love y'all.
Don't change this.

Speaker 2 It's special.

Speaker 2 Yes, Flair, appreciate you, man.

Speaker 2 To all our Jamaican fans out there, you know, we go back and forth, especially around the Olympics and the World Championship. But, you know, we hold you guys in a very, very, very high regard.

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Speaker 2 That concludes this episode of Nightcap. As the New England Patriots run their record to 9-2 and stay,

Speaker 2 as a top seed in the ALC East, thanks to a 27-14 victory. Drake May was 25 of 34, 281, one touchdown.

Speaker 2 Stephon Diggs had nine for a bucko five. He played extremely, extremely well.
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