BEST OF NFL Week 10 Part 1: Matthew Stafford MVP Favorite + Kevin Stefanski is TRIPPING ... AGAIN

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Speaker 24 Ocho, Matthew Stafford,

Speaker 24 continues to make a case for the MVP. The Rams are now 7-2, tied for the best record in the NFC with just a half a game behind the NFL's best record.

Speaker 24 Stafford against the 49ers was 24-36, 280 passing yards, four touchdowns. Stafford is the first quarterback in NFL history with four passing touchdowns, zero interceptions, and three straight games.

Speaker 24 On the season, Stafford leads the NFL in passing touchdowns 25. And his touchdown to interception ratio, what does he have, one interception now?

Speaker 24 It's also the best of the league. Stafford has never won an MVP award.
Also played in the era with elites like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers.

Speaker 24 Only season he's ever received an MVP vote was 2023 when he finished eight of 10 players.

Speaker 24 And one year, he should have got some MVP votes because he threw for 5,000 yards. Huh? Three.

Speaker 24 So he got 25 touchdowns, Ocho. two interceptions.

Speaker 23 Hey, them Aaron Rodgers numbers, boy.

Speaker 24 Thank you.

Speaker 23 Hey, them Aaron Rodgers numbers. I know Jonathan Taylor's playing well right now, but if he continues to put these type of numbers up,

Speaker 23 well, you know where that MVP is going. It's going to be right down there in LA.
Yeah. Hey, this game was over early.

Speaker 23 This game was over early. It was 21-zip with 13 minutes left in the second quarter.

Speaker 23 If you're playing Madden, the game is over. You got to pass the sticks.

Speaker 23 It was over.

Speaker 24 The turnovers killed him. I mean, Jawan Jennings or Mac Jones.
Mac Jones was 33 of 39, 319, three touchdowns, one pick.

Speaker 24 This is not hindsight.

Speaker 24 I said the 49ers should have stayed exactly where they are and took Mac Jones.

Speaker 24 You said, stay right where you are and take Mac Jones. You don't have to give up that draft capital.

Speaker 24 But that's a

Speaker 24 story to be told another day in time.

Speaker 24 George Kittle, nine catches, 84 yards, a touchdown. Jawan Jennings, six catches, 71 yards of touchdown.
Christian McCaffrey had eight catches, 66 yards.

Speaker 24 They didn't run the ball really well today. The Rams kind of got after them

Speaker 24 in the run game.

Speaker 24 But Matthew Stafford is dealing when you got Puka and you got Devontae. They were cooking, boy.
Still routing people up.

Speaker 24 They were cooking.

Speaker 24 Parkinson, tight end, touchdown.

Speaker 24 Allen, touchdown.

Speaker 24 They look, they're good. The Rams are good.

Speaker 24 And I tweeted, Ocho, are we sure? Are we certain

Speaker 24 the Rams and the Seahawks aren't the best two teams in football? Are we certain that's not the case?

Speaker 24 Because

Speaker 24 we saw Seattle Monday night.

Speaker 24 No, we saw them. Was it Sunday night? When they beat the brakes off the commanders, and we know that.
And then they turn around and do it.

Speaker 24 I mean, they have 35 at one half and 35 and I mean, 73 points and two halves.

Speaker 23 Is there anyone

Speaker 23 that would want to argue the fact that they're not the two best teams regardless of AFC or NFC? I mean, who would argue that fact?

Speaker 24 People might say the Patriots. Somebody still might believe the Lions.

Speaker 24 But based on what I've seen, the consistency-wise,

Speaker 24 I think for me, those are

Speaker 24 the two best teams for me. But Stafford, but for me,

Speaker 24 you know, Drake May, and I think Drake May is playing unbelievable,

Speaker 24 but his numbers aren't comparable. I mean, you go look at Stafford, he's on place to throw.

Speaker 24 So he has eight games to go. So he's on pace to throw 50 touchdowns with four interceptions.
How many yards does he have? So he's going to be

Speaker 24 over 4,500 yards. Unless somebody's comparable to that, they're not taking that award for him.

Speaker 24 Now, if Jonathan Taylor says the goals rush for 2,100 yards and 25 touchdowns, now I think it's going to be a very close race.

Speaker 23 It's going to be a conversation, but you know how the NFL is. You know how it is.
I think it would have to be an historical. I'm talking about historical numbers

Speaker 23 for them to take it away from a quarterback.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 And the thing is, I mean,

Speaker 24 and because he's putting these numbers out here, because remember, Ocho, the game against Jacksonville, he had five touchdowns and didn't have 200 yards passing.

Speaker 24 So

Speaker 24 he's putting up these numbers, and he's not having to do a whole lot late. They're just running the football.
Kyron Williams Corin, you know, 30 carries, a buck 26.

Speaker 24 Nice, smooth, easy.

Speaker 24 But now, Matthew Stafford looks good. He's looking good as at any point in time.
Does he ever look?

Speaker 24 Rams are going to be tough. I can't wait.
When do Rams play Seattle again?

Speaker 23 Rams in Seattle.

Speaker 24 Next week. Oh the Rams play Seattle next week on y'all.

Speaker 24 Is that a Fox game or the

Speaker 23 it got it? It gotta be.

Speaker 24 That's what I'm saying. I'm asking when do they play them? So next week and then in LA and then

Speaker 24 December in Seattle. That's gonna be a good game.
Next week is gonna be a game. Is it a Sunday? Is it a Sunday night? Is it a Monday?

Speaker 24 One o'clock.

Speaker 24 Afternoon, late game. Okay, both of them.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 And then on prime, so Thursday in mid-December.

Speaker 24 No, I like to see these guys fully, fully healthy. Oh, Joe, the Buccaneers lose to the Patriots by the score of 28-23.

Speaker 24 Trayvion Henderson.

Speaker 24 Hey, that Joe Rudd said, Hey, y'all, can I score? Y'all want me to score? What y'all want me to do?

Speaker 23 I've never seen anybody check with the coaches on the sideline running full speed to make sure it was okay.

Speaker 24 But he looking at his, it ain't his sideline right here. He's looking way over there.

Speaker 23 Because most of the time, you know, if they want you to go down, everybody be doing this.

Speaker 24 Yeah, but he's like, nah, don't he saw the closest game. Drake May was 16 to 31, 272 touchdowns, one interception.

Speaker 24 Trevion Henderson, 14 carries, a buck 47, and two long touchdowns. He had one longer 69.
That was the one he was looking to see what was really going on. He took another one to the house.

Speaker 24 Mac Collins, old barefoot Mac,

Speaker 24 six catches, a buck 04.

Speaker 24 Williams, one catch, 72 yards. House call.
Stephon Diggs on fourth. I think it was fourth down.
He ended up catching the touchdown. Five catches, 46 yards,

Speaker 24 and and a touchdown. Um,

Speaker 24 Ameka Abuka, six catches, 115, touchdown. K Dotten, nine for 82.
Tern Johnson, four for 42, two touchdowns. Uh,

Speaker 24 they ran the ball decent, 21 carries, a buck 13. Baker played exceptionally well again, 28, 43, 273, three touchdowns.

Speaker 23 Yeah, Drake.

Speaker 24 Uh, what is what does Drake made numbers look like?

Speaker 23 But you mean,

Speaker 24 you now you understand why Mr. Kraft had to make a decision? Yes, Gerard Mayo, I got your job, but this guy's just too good.

Speaker 24 I don't want anybody else to get him.

Speaker 24 Sometimes you got to make hard decisions sometimes.

Speaker 23 Listen, if I was brave,

Speaker 23 I would have hoped, I'm not sure how that relationship is. I would have made sure to have Mayo part of that team.

Speaker 23 And part of the coach staff.

Speaker 24 Well, hell, he got sacked. We know he he got sacked five at least five times in the Cleveland game because Miles Garrett got him all five, got him five times.

Speaker 24 Ooh, that's a lot. In 10 games, he's been sacked 34 times.
Shoot.

Speaker 24 So he's on pace to get sacked over 60.

Speaker 24 We got 35 included today.

Speaker 24 So, man, he's on pace to get sacked 60 plus times.

Speaker 23 Listen, what's David Carr record at getting sacked?

Speaker 24 76.

Speaker 24 You don't want to be messing with that. They'll break you.

Speaker 24 They'll break you physically and mentally.

Speaker 23 Absolutely. But that's a lot of hits, huh? That's a lot.
That's a lot. It's a lot.

Speaker 23 A lot of wear and tear, especially for a quarterback only in his second year.

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Speaker 24 The Browns lose to the Jets by the score of 27 to 20. Browns coach Kevin Stefanski isn't ready to make a change at quarterback just yet.

Speaker 24 When asked by reporters if he planned to stick with rookie Dylan Gabriel as the team starting quarterback, Stefanski asserted Gabriel will remain at the helm.

Speaker 24 After the loss to the Jets, Gabriel has thrown 869 yards, seven touchdowns, two interceptions in his rookie season.

Speaker 24 He led Cleveland to just one win with the game on October 19th against the Dolphins, and they are now 2-7 on the year. Ocho,

Speaker 24 I just don't know how you're going to win games checking the ball down. I just don't know.

Speaker 23 I told you before, listen, I love Dylan Gabriel.

Speaker 23 I love what they would do at Oregon, but against in the NFL, if you're not able to throw inside of the hashes, inside of the, I mean, outside of the numbers,

Speaker 23 if you can't make those throws like normal quarterbacks can do,

Speaker 23 you're not going to win games checking the ball down. You're just not.
unless you have elite superior talent around you you're not going to be able to do it you're not going to be able to do it

Speaker 23 you're just not i mean dude he was what 17 for 32 167. yeah he had two tds today

Speaker 23 and for the browns to have success the running game has to be on

Speaker 23 for the browns to have success the running game has to be slap ass on It just has to, because that's the only way you're going to be able to fool teams

Speaker 23 is with play action, low RPO,

Speaker 23 and stuff like that. But just,

Speaker 23 at this point, I don't know what Stefan is going to do. I think he's going to continue to die on this hill because they truly do not want Shadur to get in there and start.

Speaker 24 You lose a game in which the opposing quarterback goes 6-4-11,

Speaker 24 54 yards.

Speaker 24 a touchdown and an interception.

Speaker 24 So you lose a game in which the opposing team did not have 200 yards of total offense it's the nfl too now

Speaker 23 just mind you this let me say

Speaker 24 they didn't have

Speaker 24 170 yards of total offense and you lost yes your special teams let you down you gave up a kick return for a touchdown and you gave up a a a a punt return for a touchdown But this is not the first time that Justin has thrown for less than 100 100 yards.

Speaker 23 He did it early, earlier in the season.

Speaker 24 Oh, Joe, let's be all that. Talk to me.

Speaker 23 Wait, wait. Take your time now.

Speaker 24 I just don't see it ever working for Justin Fields.

Speaker 23 You know, I have a question.

Speaker 23 Yes. Can we play devil's advocate? And think about all the quarterbacks that were there.

Speaker 23 And it didn't work for them. But obviously they went somewhere else to the right situation and it worked.

Speaker 23 I lost Sam Darnold, who was the number three, who's a third pick in in the draft, who went to the Jets.

Speaker 23 And for some reason, it just didn't work.

Speaker 24 What you call with the double two pick in the draft? Wilson, Zach Wilson.

Speaker 23 Oh, okay. Yeah, bingo.
So maybe, maybe, maybe it's just the Jets organization. They haven't had a good, competent quarterback since Broadway Joe.

Speaker 23 And you told me, you know, you told me Joe wasn't even that good.

Speaker 24 He got more interception than touchdown passing, but that's not here. We're not here to talk about that.
Oh, Joe. Justin Fields had 54 yards passing.

Speaker 24 42 of those yards came on a a play. Brees Harvey's going to left the screen.

Speaker 24 So, in other words, if we take that away, he completed five passes for 12 yards.

Speaker 23 That don't even sound real, honestly.

Speaker 23 You heard me?

Speaker 24 Even on their worst date, Zach Wilson

Speaker 24 and

Speaker 24 Sam Darnold didn't look like this.

Speaker 24 Man.

Speaker 24 I don't know. I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 24 Maybe so, Ocho.

Speaker 24 Maybe he needs to get out of there and go somewhere else, too. Maybe, maybe.
But it ain't going to be there. It ain't going to be there.
But here's the thing, Ocho.

Speaker 24 We've seen him in Chicago.

Speaker 24 We've seen him other places.

Speaker 23 But listen,

Speaker 23 he was decent in Pittsburgh now. He was decent in Pittsburgh.
The only thing that happened,

Speaker 23 I think they were four and two. They were four and two when Russell Wilson came back, if I'm not mistaken.
He was playing extremely well.

Speaker 24 He was playing extremely well.

Speaker 23 But I was hoping. I was hoping finally Justin Field gets his chance.
He gets his team.

Speaker 23 Quarterback number one, you don't have to worry about anything except going out there and playing freely because you're not peeking anybody over your shoulder. Nobody's coming to take your spot.

Speaker 24 This is you, you are you, this is your team.

Speaker 23 Now's your opportunity to show people what you can do.

Speaker 23 And it's just, I don't know.

Speaker 24 I don't either. Like I said, hold up.
Excuse me.

Speaker 24 Cleveland.

Speaker 23 Whereas laughing at.

Speaker 24 Oh, Lord. What happened?

Speaker 24 Boy, Cleveland. It's bad, huh?

Speaker 24 Yeah, I mean, look, Cleveland ain't trying to win.

Speaker 24 Look, let's stop. We got to stop expecting Shadur because Shadur is going to come in there and try to win.
They don't want to win. They want to get draft picks.

Speaker 24 They're going to redo this thing.

Speaker 24 They're going to redo this thing.

Speaker 24 And

Speaker 24 would I be surprised after this season if Miles Garrett said, yeah, yeah, I gave y'all a chance, but y'all not going to do anything. Let me.

Speaker 23 You think they're going to let him go?

Speaker 24 Take them draft picks and rebuild.

Speaker 24 You're going to go 2-15 with him.

Speaker 23 You might as well go 2-15 without him.

Speaker 24 Might as well try to rebuild for the future and get three first-round draft picks

Speaker 24 and go for start over.

Speaker 23 Yeah, listen,

Speaker 23 I wouldn't mind seeing Miles come on right down the the street, man, come on down there in Cincinnati now

Speaker 23 and

Speaker 23 have a good old time with your boy.

Speaker 23 What you think about that?

Speaker 24 What?

Speaker 23 Miles, come on down an hour down the street and come on down here to Cincinnati.

Speaker 24 No.

Speaker 24 First of all, you do know who you start. First of all, the Browns used to be owned by

Speaker 24 the dream.

Speaker 24 That ain't happening.

Speaker 23 I can dream.

Speaker 24 I don't, look, I don't think there's no team in the AFC North that has a chance of getting Miles Gash.

Speaker 23 He's going to the NFC for sure.

Speaker 24 I'm doing everything I can to get him out of the AFC.

Speaker 24 Now, if somebody in the AFC wants to offer three first-round picks in the player, I'm going to have, as long as it's not in my division,

Speaker 24 if it's in the AFC West or the AFC South,

Speaker 24 AFC East,

Speaker 24 somebody I'm only going to to see once every two, three years.

Speaker 24 Okay.

Speaker 24 I can deal with that. But somebody I got to play twice a year.
Oh, Joe. Oh, hell no.

Speaker 23 Listen, not that kind of player. Absolutely not.

Speaker 24 I don't want none of that. Absolutely not.

Speaker 24 Absolutely not. But Cleveland's not that good, man.

Speaker 24 I'm happy for AG that he's put together two wins. But

Speaker 24 who's the worst team? Saints?

Speaker 23 I mean,

Speaker 23 it's a toss-up out of the the Saints and the Jets, huh?

Speaker 24 Yes, but the Saints only got one win, right?

Speaker 24 Yeah, I mean, the Jets are two and seven. Cleveland's two and seven.

Speaker 24 Titans are one name.

Speaker 23 I forgot about the Titans. Hey, the Titans have been sliding right up under the radar, huh?

Speaker 24 They're going to be bad.

Speaker 24 They're trying to get that number one pick to.

Speaker 23 And get what?

Speaker 24 Something. Trade it and get some more picks.

Speaker 24 I mean, that's what you need to do, OJ.

Speaker 24 Trade it and get more picks.

Speaker 23 One thing about it, boy, it's hell billing the team, boy. It's hell building a team.

Speaker 24 Unless you get that guy. You see how quickly Cincinnati turned it around once they got Joe? You see how Buffalo turned it around once they got Josh Allen?

Speaker 24 Look, the Kansas City was right there because they had Alex Smith. They got Alex Smith to the trade.

Speaker 24 But when they got Patrick Mahomes, what did they do?

Speaker 24 Look at the charges now that they got Herbert. You see, every year, when you got that guy, Ocho, if you got a guy, if you get a guy, you got a chance.
Because I can feel it. If I got the foundation,

Speaker 23 you're just going, you're going from there. That's the easy part.
But that's the problem. And I don't think that the chat understands or understands how difficult it is.

Speaker 23 Even if you're a fan of football, I'm talking about

Speaker 23 you don't understand how difficult it is. I don't know how far and few quarterbacks are.

Speaker 23 Good quarterbacks that you can just lock in and say, you know what, this is my quarterback for the next decade, the next 15 years, and I can bill around him. That is so difficult to find.
Aster,

Speaker 23 I don't want to be disrespectful, but okay, you know what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 But But

Speaker 24 look,

Speaker 24 I ain't even thinking about it.

Speaker 24 I'm just waiting on them when Mary Kay Cabot reported that

Speaker 24 Shador Sanders, when she reported, then

Speaker 24 I'll worry about it. But I'm not worried about it now because it ain't happening.
They seem to be hell-bent on trying to prove that Dylan Gabriel can play, and he might.

Speaker 24 Hey, maybe we need to give him more time. He is a rookie quarterback, but I just don't think they have enough pieces around him to support him.

Speaker 24 but

Speaker 24 hey they believe in him so

Speaker 24 that's all we got

Speaker 23 hey i still can't believe that outside if you if you take away brees hall 40 some yard run feels really hard was it raining was it raining that game yeah okay

Speaker 24 i don't it i don't

Speaker 24 it didn't look like it was raining at the beginning of the game, but as it got later,

Speaker 24 it started coming down.

Speaker 23 Damn,

Speaker 23 he only had 12 12 yards

Speaker 24 yeah if you take away that 42 yard

Speaker 24 damn

Speaker 23 i mean even even with the elements i played in ring games and you know had over 100 and but when you think about it just operating a simple offense basic offense i right i left i mean running curl routes out routes i mean that's 12 yards right there that's just one play the fact how do you have something like that and four quarters to play again let you know we're being cautious Don't want to put the, we don't trust the ball in your hands, so therefore, this is what we have to do.

Speaker 24 Yeah,

Speaker 24 god damn. Brees Hall was basically their offense of their 100.

Speaker 24 Hold up, they had 40. So

Speaker 24 that, so 42 and 127. That's 169.

Speaker 24 Breeze Hall had 125 of the 169 total yards.

Speaker 23 Nah, that's.

Speaker 24 yeah, I just think Justin Fields needs to go somewhere. Woody Johnson is not,

Speaker 24 it doesn't mean, doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter who, who, who plays quarterback.
We've seen far too many.

Speaker 24 The only one that's had a little success for an extended period of time was Chad Pennington, but nobody else. I mean, Boomer, you got to go back to Boomer had his couple of years there in the 90s.

Speaker 24 You got to go back to Kenny O'Brien in the 80s, but it's just like sporadic.

Speaker 24 It's like kind of hit or miss. Vinny came there and had a good year back in,

Speaker 24 what was that? 98. They went to the LC Championship game.
We beat them in Denver. And then I think they had that historic comeback on Monday night.
Remember, they had that comeback again.

Speaker 24 It was against the Dolphins, I think, Ocho.

Speaker 24 But

Speaker 24 it's just not working for no quarterback. And if I'm a quarterback, I just dread going to.

Speaker 24 Hold on.

Speaker 23 It depends on the quarterback. You have to be him.

Speaker 23 You have to be a Lamar Jackson.

Speaker 24 Aaron Rodgers was him. How he looked.

Speaker 23 oh yeah you know what but look look where he was

Speaker 24 so a guy that got four mvps and is a first ballot hall of famer could put you know you look at an easy a top 10 top five quarterback of all time how'd he look you know what when you put it like that but i this is the thing how would a prime aaron rodgers look he'd be fine because he can he can elevate everything around him

Speaker 24 Yeah, yeah, but you think about what you're saying now. You're talking about

Speaker 24 there ain't probably been 10 quarterbacks in the history of the game better than Aaron Rodgers. So you're talking,

Speaker 24 what's the likelihood of you possibly getting one of those?

Speaker 23 Not likely.

Speaker 23 Not likely.

Speaker 24 So I don't know what you're saying.

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Speaker 24 Oh, Joe, I don't know if you saw this game this morning, but Jonathan Taylor runs for 244 rush yards, three touchdowns. Uh,

Speaker 24 and the Colts 31-25 victory over the Falcons in Berlin is Taylor's third career 200-yard rushing day.

Speaker 24 Taylor is the fourth player in NFL history to have at least 200 yards rushing and at least three rushing touchdowns in a game twice in his career. He joins Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson,

Speaker 24 excuse me, and Derrick Henry. He moved past Hall of Famer Edgar and James for the most rushing touchdowns in Colts history.

Speaker 23 Hey,

Speaker 24 he

Speaker 24 look,

Speaker 24 for me, him and Matthew Stafford, it's hard for me to overlook Matthew Stafford and what he's doing. He's had three straight games where he throwed at least four touchdowns and zero interceptions.

Speaker 24 That's facts. I don't think he's thrown a interception in the last six games.
And he got 20 touchdowns in the last six games with no picks. With that being said,

Speaker 24 Jonathan Taylor's carrying the surface.

Speaker 24 Absolutely. Listen,

Speaker 24 Daniel Jones was doing his best job to get his game away.

Speaker 24 He tried his damn best.

Speaker 24 And Shane Stein said, you know what? I got this workhorse in the middle of the game.

Speaker 24 Man, let me turn around. Man, let me take the ball at you.
Damn, you don't hand the ball off the

Speaker 24 JT.

Speaker 23 The goddamn Falcon defense was putting that pressure on Buddy, man. He's putting that pressure.

Speaker 24 They got him seven times, though, Jane.

Speaker 23 So obviously, he was a little bit rattled, you know, trying to process. He trying to sit back there and go through his goddamn reads he getting hit in the head every goddamn time

Speaker 24 you know what ocho

Speaker 24 a lot of times is that look sacks is gonna happen but it's just like just hold on to the ball

Speaker 24 you can't every time they hit you let the ball go

Speaker 24 because that that's that's gonna happen and then the interception i'm like what you i give him credit

Speaker 24 The old Daniel Jones at the Giants, I'm not sure he's gonna stand there like he did today.

Speaker 24 But when you got that guy right there that is a threat anytime to hit his head on the goalpost, they got him bottled up. He steps outside,

Speaker 24 peaced it out.

Speaker 24 I mean, 244 rushing yards, tack on another 42 yards receiving, Ocho.

Speaker 24 Man, had damn near 270 yards.

Speaker 23 Hey,

Speaker 24 uh,

Speaker 24 Tyler Warren, I love this kid. Look, and this is not a knock on Lovelace.

Speaker 24 I think that's

Speaker 24 the tight end in Chicago, because I think they took him. Is it Lovelace or Loveland?

Speaker 24 Loveland.

Speaker 24 But I like the Warren kid. He's nice.

Speaker 24 He is sensational.

Speaker 24 He's a goal-getter.

Speaker 24 I love his game. Watching him at Penn State, I say, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 Yeah,

Speaker 24 he's a real deal.

Speaker 24 I love his game.

Speaker 24 JT's over 1,100 yards, 1,139 rush yards, and 10 games. So he got seven games to go.

Speaker 23 Eight, eight, huh?

Speaker 24 Oh, they got, no, no, they got they already played 10. They got seven, 17 games.

Speaker 24 Yeah, they, they, uh, they haven't had their bye week yet, I don't think.

Speaker 24 So that's why they got 10, and the Falcons have only played three. I mean, mean, only played nine.

Speaker 23 Let me see. More on them.

Speaker 24 But

Speaker 24 these tight ends, man, the tight ends on your, they just got more tight ends to do it.

Speaker 24 They just got more. They were just back in the 80s, and you have one or two.
You had Ozzie and Kellen. And then in the 90s,

Speaker 24 you had

Speaker 24 Jay Novicek for a couple of years. And then Ben Coles and myself.
You had Star. I know, I don't know.
I know the Patriots fans. You guys will remember Starbuck and Marvin Cook.

Speaker 24 But for the most part, it was always like one or two, maybe three on the high end. Now you got McBride.
Now you got

Speaker 24 Hawkinson. Now you got

Speaker 24 LaCorta. Now you got this Kevin.
You got

Speaker 24 Warren. You got

Speaker 24 Loveland.

Speaker 24 You got just so many guys.

Speaker 24 You got, you know, you got a Mark Andrews. You got a Travis Kelsey.
You got a Ronde Gaso Viseca. I mean, you just got so many guys, Ocho.
You got a Brock Bowers.

Speaker 24 You had Kraft that ended up tearing his knee for the Green Bay Packers. You have so many guys now that can do it

Speaker 24 that it doesn't even seem special anymore. It seems special when there's only a handful of guys doing it.
Now you got a bunch of these guys can do it.

Speaker 24 But man, he was, man, he was, I was like, damn.

Speaker 24 But he's definitely in the MVP discussion.

Speaker 23 Taylor,

Speaker 23 Jonathan, you talk about Jonathan Dayton?

Speaker 24 How many yards did, did we can you figure out how many yards Saquon had at this point last year, 10 games into the season?

Speaker 24 So, because he damn sure got to be on pace for 2,000.

Speaker 23 Yeah, he should be. Absolutely.

Speaker 24 Hold on, in 10 games, he has 1139, so he's averaging

Speaker 24 like 113 yards a game. So, 113 times seven, what would that give him?

Speaker 24 Would that give him 2,000?

Speaker 24 Yeah, we forgot about Kittle.

Speaker 23 I said it.

Speaker 23 Yeah, I said it. Okay.

Speaker 24 Hell, I mean, we're going to talk about the Rams in a minute. They threw a touchdown.

Speaker 24 Every tight end for the Rams caught a touchdown, but me. Hell, I was like, call my old ass out of retirement and throw me one.

Speaker 24 Damn, 49ers? Y'all going to cover anybody tight end? Pinch him?

Speaker 23 Something.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I'm like, damn,

Speaker 24 they were giving a touchdown like Oprah gave our car that time. You get a car.
You'll get a touchdown. You get a touchdown.

Speaker 24 But Taylor, man, he is.

Speaker 23 He's balling.

Speaker 23 How much is

Speaker 24 I think Jonathan Taylor has 1,139 yards? Saquon has 1,137.

Speaker 24 Wow.

Speaker 24 So

Speaker 24 he's two yards ahead of what Saquon was at the same time last year.

Speaker 24 But he got way more touchdowns than Saquon had.

Speaker 24 I think he got like 15 touchdowns.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 He got a chance to get LT's running.

Speaker 24 Yeah. No.

Speaker 24 So if he averages, he's got 15.

Speaker 24 He can get 25. I mean, you get 25.
They're going to seriously, seriously give this guy. If he gets 2,000 yards and say 25,

Speaker 24 the 30 touchdowns, he's going to be MVP.

Speaker 23 That is a possibility. It would have to be a quarterback to come on and just have a crazy surge the last eight weeks.

Speaker 23 They would have to have a crazy surge.

Speaker 24 Go ahead, Ocho. What What are you saying if

Speaker 23 I would say it would probably be Matt Stafford, especially if they keep winning?

Speaker 24 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 Yeah, Stafford, Stafford, definitely.

Speaker 24 Stafford, Drake may.

Speaker 23 But Drake may ball enough.

Speaker 23 But Drake may have balled. He's wheeling and dealing in New England, boy.
Wow.

Speaker 24 Jonathan Taylor has two more yards on eight fewer carries than what Saquon had at the same time last year, but he has seven more touchdowns.

Speaker 23 Crazy.

Speaker 24 So, and we know what we were thinking about Saquon at this point in time.

Speaker 24 And the thing is, you can't stack the line because they got a combat quarterback and they got receivers that can go get the football.

Speaker 24 You got a Tyler Warren, you got a Pierce, you got a Michael Pittman Jr., you got Downs.

Speaker 24 So you got guys, you can't just play eight in the box. You really trying to leave these guys one-on-one outside?

Speaker 23 No, no, no, no,

Speaker 23 no, not at all. So, hey, the funny thing about it is when you watch film, you see Taylor have games like he had last week.
Hell, we in week 10.

Speaker 23 You already know where the ball is going, and he's still getting off and do what he wants to do. And I think there is a healthy balance.
Obviously, Daniel Jones was a little shaky today.

Speaker 23 He was a little shaky

Speaker 23 last week. But outside of that, since week one, he's been really good throwing the ball through the air.

Speaker 23 He's been really good at it. So

Speaker 23 there's a healthy balance that they do have despite Jonathan Taylor having an impeccable season thus far.

Speaker 23 Teams are going to prove: all right, you're going to have to beat us through there.

Speaker 23 We're not allowing you, we're not allowing you to run the ball. If we have to run a goddamn 4-6 bear defense,

Speaker 23 you're going to throw that goddamn ball.

Speaker 24 Yeah, well, that's what's going to happen. But here's the thing: the thing that concerns me is that their tackles been getting their ass kicked.

Speaker 24 Their tackles have been getting their ass who the hell is that goddamn left tackle?

Speaker 24 Hell, the right one,

Speaker 24 Smith. I forget the left tackle name.

Speaker 23 But both of them, not just the left one, the right one, too.

Speaker 24 Both of them had got their ass handed to them today.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Oh,

Speaker 24 this is Indy's schedule next week. Oh, okay.
Here's Indy's schedule. At Chiefs.
Texas at home, at Jags, at Seahawks, 49ers at home, Jags at home, at Texas.

Speaker 23 Hey, that Chiefs game,

Speaker 23 they need to be able to move that to a prime time game, depending on what time it is.

Speaker 24 It's the morning game,

Speaker 24 it's a 1 a.m. game.

Speaker 23 Bam!

Speaker 23 That's one supposed to be 4:30.

Speaker 24 I'm looking. They got

Speaker 24 the Colts play the 49ers.

Speaker 24 That's a Monday night game.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Yeah. Chiefs play the Broncos next week.

Speaker 23 Oh, y'all finna get mollywalked.

Speaker 23 Hey, boy, y'all finna get molly whopped, boy.

Speaker 24 No,

Speaker 23 yeah.

Speaker 24 Ain't happening.

Speaker 24 But the Colts moved to 8-2.

Speaker 24 Number one seed in the AFC currently, thanks to a 31-25 overtime victory over the Atlanta Falcons.

Speaker 24 Oh, Joe, DeMarcus Lawrence has scores two defensive touchdowns on plays that seem so similar to each other. Same guys forced the fumble.
D-Law, Johnny on the spot picks it up.

Speaker 24 But D-Law returned two fumbles for touchdown, became the sixth player in the sixth player since at least 1991 with two defensive touchdowns in the first half of a game.

Speaker 24 Seahawks finished with five sacks while playing with our injured starters, Julian Love, Josh Jove, Ernest Jones IV, and Jaron Reed.

Speaker 24 They got after Jacoby. Absolutely.
They got it.

Speaker 23 Absolutely.

Speaker 24 Ocho,

Speaker 24 me and you talked about this.

Speaker 24 Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to have to start catching the ball.

Speaker 24 It's really that simple.

Speaker 24 It's really that simple, Ocho.

Speaker 24 he too good oh he too good to have those drops like that man he too good

Speaker 24 and his dad say the offense not flowing and no so forth and so on but but but hey marv your son got to hold on to the ball bro

Speaker 24 he does

Speaker 24 he does

Speaker 23 it look a little inconsistent a little inconsistent

Speaker 24 um Jacoba Brissette was 22 of 42, 258, two touchdowns, got sacked five times. How he ended up with numbers like this, I don't know.

Speaker 24 Because, hell, it seemed like every time in the first half, he dropped back the pass.

Speaker 23 McBride had a day, McBride had not.

Speaker 24 McBride, well, McBride, I mean, look, he wanted another tight end. Uh, nine catches above 27.
Uh, one touchdown on 13 targets. DeMercado, three for 40 on four catches.
Marvin Harrison Jr.

Speaker 24 Three catches, 12 targets.

Speaker 23 Hey, they were trying to get him that rock, bro.

Speaker 23 They were trying to get in that rock.

Speaker 24 If they throw it to you, you can't throw it back at them.

Speaker 24 I mean, we got to be real, Chad. Y'all watch the game.
He drops a lot of passes. He does.

Speaker 23 Hey.

Speaker 23 It was 35-0

Speaker 23 in the second quarter.

Speaker 23 Yes. It was eight minutes left in the second quarter.
It was 35-0. This is the NFL game.

Speaker 23 I mean, when they listen, when Arizona played the Cowboys last week, man, we was hooping and hollering, excited.

Speaker 23 Oh, they're probably not going to star Kylan Murray. They felt Jacoby Brissette was the better option going forward.

Speaker 23 He looked good. But you see what happens when you go against a real team with a better defense,

Speaker 23 with a real defense,

Speaker 23 and they coming to get you.

Speaker 23 You got two, maybe two and a half seconds to get that ball out your hands. And that's about it.

Speaker 23 And

Speaker 23 that's Seattle offense.

Speaker 24 They didn't have to do my, oh, yo, Sam Darno was 10 of 12 for 178 yards.

Speaker 24 This man threw the ball 12 times, Ocho, in an NFL game.

Speaker 24 And one convincingly. It wasn't even that close.
They ran the ball 46 times for 198 yards. Charbonneau.

Speaker 24 Had 14 carries for 83 yards. Kenneth Walker, the third, had 14 for 67.
But Jackson Smith and Jigba, five for 93 and a tub. Cooper Cup, two for 74.

Speaker 24 That was the damage right there. That was seven for 167 right there.

Speaker 23 Hey, Charmino reminded me of Robert Smith when he was with the Vikings.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 23 Same running style,

Speaker 23 shirt tucked in, pants high.

Speaker 24 The thing is, Ocho, this game wouldn't have... They might have scored 60 if Sam Donald holds on to the, if

Speaker 24 they don't fumble the ball, and then he turned it over.

Speaker 24 This game could have easily been

Speaker 24 50 to 10, 50 something would have been.

Speaker 23 The coaches would have been fighting on the field after the game if they ran that score up like that.

Speaker 24 They wasn't running that, but all they had to do was not turn it over.

Speaker 23 That was a good game. Hey, Seattle looked good, man.

Speaker 23 Both sides of the ball.

Speaker 24 Yeah,

Speaker 24 Seattle looked good, man. They look good.
Their defense gets after you. And they have, I mean, think about how many starters they had.

Speaker 24 Julian Love, starter, Josh Joe, starter, Ernest James, Ernest Jones IV, starter, Jaron Reed. That's four starters.
And they put a and they did a performance like this today.

Speaker 24 They good.

Speaker 24 They good. They can run it.
They can throw it.

Speaker 24 They can get after your quarterback.

Speaker 24 Hey, and now they got Wolen and they got Spoon.

Speaker 23 Spoon, nice.

Speaker 24 We'll find out a lot next week because they got the Rams.

Speaker 24 They ain't gonna be put to the test because you got A, you got Devontae and Paul.

Speaker 23 Where they playing at?

Speaker 24 In LA?

Speaker 23 Boy, let's go to the game.

Speaker 23 I hit Stan.

Speaker 23 We get court side.

Speaker 24 I'm good.

Speaker 23 Hey, you don't, well, you don't never want to hang out with me, boy. I tell you, boy, I tell you about.

Speaker 24 No, I don't want to hang out at the end of the day.

Speaker 23 I tell you about black folk.

Speaker 24 Well,

Speaker 24 y'all be killing me.

Speaker 24 I told y'all I'm coming down to visit you in the offseason.

Speaker 23 But we gonna wait all the way to the offseason?

Speaker 24 Yeah, we working now.

Speaker 24 Man.

Speaker 23 You need to learn to live a little bit, man.

Speaker 23 You can come down here right now. We can do the show, you know, like

Speaker 23 in the same house.

Speaker 23 I think the people would love to see that.

Speaker 24 You know, you know we i don't think they love side by side

Speaker 24 and plus i i i got to you know i got to take a few trips i got to do some stuff for some other stuff so i got to say i got to save my i got to save uh

Speaker 24 save my okay okay okay oh yo backup quarterback davis mills and the texans overcame a 19-point fourth quarter deficit to stun the jags is the second largest comeback in franchise history only behind the 21 point comeback win over the chargers in 2013.

Speaker 24 it's the first time the jaguars had led by 19 points in a game and lost.

Speaker 24 Before today, they were 53-0 in such games, including the playoffs, and were the only current NFL franchise that had won each such game.

Speaker 24 Man, Trevor Lawrence, man.

Speaker 23 Hey,

Speaker 23 hey, y'all.

Speaker 23 He's the answer, but he had a bad day today, though.

Speaker 24 Yeah, but far too many of of those.

Speaker 24 Remember the Rams game? Over there, what were they in London? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He stunk that one up.

Speaker 23 He stunk it up. He just needed a little bit more.

Speaker 24 Oh, Joe, 13 of 23, above 58.

Speaker 24 Oh, Joe,

Speaker 24 they barely had two. I don't know, no, they had 23 yards passing.

Speaker 23 Hey, that fourth quarter was bad, huh?

Speaker 23 Boy, the Texans outscored the goddamn Jaguars 26-0 in the fourth quarter. One quarter.

Speaker 24 Yeah,

Speaker 24 that's how we did it. You know, we scored 33 against the in a quarter.

Speaker 24 33 in the fourth quarter. We were down.

Speaker 23 How many possessions y'all had? Three or four.

Speaker 24 Don't worry about it. Enough to score 33.

Speaker 23 They must have turned the ball over twice.

Speaker 24 I tell you what, I know we did to the

Speaker 24 Bangles. Who?

Speaker 23 I wasn't playing.

Speaker 24 Was I. We the one that got Jake Browning on the bench.
Made him trade for Joe Flacco.

Speaker 24 Harry, where you lost the game at, Jags. Texas was 10 or 15 on third down.

Speaker 23 Hey, super, super duper efficient.

Speaker 23 Super duper efficient. I'm trying.

Speaker 24 They had 69 plays. You had 55 plays.

Speaker 24 They had 11 drives you had, but they averaged six yards per play. You averaged 3.9.

Speaker 23 That's creepy.

Speaker 23 Oh, 26.

Speaker 24 See, like Jags, the Jags

Speaker 24 spent a lot of effort to beat the Chiefs. Remember, they had to go.
Didn't they go to overtime to beat the Raiders last week?

Speaker 24 Man.

Speaker 23 Triple Lawrence.

Speaker 24 It was

Speaker 23 Yeah. Last beyond.
Just a little bit more consistency. That's it.

Speaker 23 A little bit more consistency.

Speaker 24 Ocho. Ocho.
Oh, Joe.

Speaker 24 I get it, but

Speaker 24 we've been at this for a while now. Yeah.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 24 We keep saying we need him to be a little bit more consistent, and he ain't being consistent.

Speaker 23 Not at all.

Speaker 23 He's not playing well. He's playing.
He's too up and down. You don't know what Trevor Lawrence you're going to get, but he got all the talent in the world.
He got all the.

Speaker 24 Oh, they did. He can make every throw.
He's athletic.

Speaker 23 He got all intangibles he got a big time exactly what you look for in a quarterback a franchise quarterback but you just wanted to have a strength be able to put him back to back put him back to back to back the back to back the back to back if you're gonna have errors let's minimize them he's having he's having one too many

Speaker 23 one too many there's there's no way a team is supposed to be able to come back

Speaker 23 in a game like this and score 26

Speaker 23 26 as a quarterback you're supposed to give me my best chance to win, not just win, but at least compete week to week.

Speaker 23 You playing it playing against the backup quarterback, but that defense, man, they

Speaker 24 saw that. Hold on, man, we stopped and we got a touchdown.
Hey, let's hold them again. Let's hold, man.

Speaker 24 Anderson Jr. and the guy they got from Minnesota.
What's his name?

Speaker 24 Danil Hunter. Yeah.

Speaker 23 Hey,

Speaker 23 they coming to the party. Invitation or no invitation?

Speaker 24 Yeah, remind you of somebody else you know, huh?

Speaker 24 Old Bronco, old Bronco, who like Benito? Old Bronco, country, old Bonito, Zach Allen, cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 We still ain't got nobody. We ain't got nobody within 10 sacks of us.

Speaker 24 And we don't have it. Hey, we do.

Speaker 23 They might catch you.

Speaker 24 Who? Who?

Speaker 24 They had their buy yet. Okay.
I don't think we had our buy yet either. Well, we played 10 games.

Speaker 23 Y'all defense is real good, though.

Speaker 24 And we got Pat.

Speaker 24 Once we get Pat back,

Speaker 23 we're really, but like, really, really, really good.

Speaker 24 Oh, I did. No, I delegit.
I delegit.

Speaker 24 You got to get that offense going.

Speaker 24 Our offense stresses them a lot.

Speaker 23 You got to get that offense going.

Speaker 24 We definitely got to get the offense going. But that was a good game.
I watched this through its entirety.

Speaker 24 Man, my cable bill is going to be like $600. All these damn channels I got to get to watch these games.

Speaker 23 Wait, just use YouTube.

Speaker 24 Rookie. You're using the NFL Red zone?

Speaker 24 Man.

Speaker 24 No comment. Rookie Tyler Schook threw two touchdowns to earn the Seattle.
The Saints first win as they defeat the Panthers 17-7.

Speaker 24 It marks the eighth time in nine starts this season that Bryce Young was limited to fewer than 200 passing yards. Panthers coach Dave Canalis described the loss as frustrating.
Yeah,

Speaker 24 you lost to a team that had one win coming into this ball game. And y'all look terrible.

Speaker 23 The NFL is. You see, week to week, ain't no telling what's going to happen.
Ain't no tell.

Speaker 23 If you was a gambling man, again, I'm going to say it again.

Speaker 23 If if you're a gambler man and understand a game of football, and you was betting, you betting on the Panthers to win this game.

Speaker 23 You betting on the Panthers to win this game based on how they look this season. They've surprised us.

Speaker 23 They surprised y'all. They ain't surprised me because I said this is how they was going to look.

Speaker 23 But today,

Speaker 23 if I had put money down, I would have bet the house on them to win today. The Saints, who've only won one game, ain't no way in hell.

Speaker 23 Ain't no way in hell.

Speaker 24 And they're home. Nah.

Speaker 23 Hey, right, there's a reason they say any given Sunday.

Speaker 23 And this is exactly this is a visual representation of exactly what that phrase means.

Speaker 24 Bright's gonna have to get it together, Ocho.

Speaker 23 Would you say he got to get it together?

Speaker 24 He's gonna have to get it together.

Speaker 23 Oh, choir boy.

Speaker 24 I think next year is going to be a make or break for him. I'm not sure they pick up that option,

Speaker 24 that 50 option.

Speaker 24 I don't think they're going to do that, but next year is going to be huge for him. He's going to have to have the best, the best career, best year of his career.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 24 And

Speaker 24 the mere fact

Speaker 24 that he's not about to get no $300 million deal tells you everything you need to know.

Speaker 23 They did on shit.

Speaker 24 But give the Saints credit. Alvin Kamara ran the ball, 22 rushes, 83 yards.
Chris Olave had his best game of the season, five catches of a test.

Speaker 23 You saw that one-hand catch he had?

Speaker 24 Johnson, four catches, 92 yards of a touchdown. Kamara, three catches, 32 yards, but they played well.
They played extremely well. The defense did a great job of getting after Bryce Young.

Speaker 24 They stymed Rico 23 carries for 73 yards total for the Carolina offense. That's not nearly good enough.
That's not nearly good enough.

Speaker 24 It hurt them that they fumbled the football. When he fumbled the football, they, you know, what's the guy from Horn, Jimmy Horn? Jim Hay.

Speaker 24 He fumbled the ball and

Speaker 24 that

Speaker 24 That won't do it.

Speaker 24 That won't do it.

Speaker 24 Ocho, in a game that set offensive football back 50, 60, 70 years, the Broncos beat the Raiders in a snooze fence by the score of 10-7.

Speaker 24 Denver extends its winning streak to seven games. The Broncos move to 8-2.
Their next game is against the Chiefs at home.

Speaker 24 Bo Nicks was 16 of 28, 150 one touchdowns two interceptions geno smith was 16 of 26 143 one interception uh

Speaker 24 it was bad it was just bad football all around thank you denver's defense i i don't understand i'm looking at the bronco i i don't listen there's enough blame to go around ojo i don't know what sean payton was calling tonight right i don't know you got the win at your back and you won't throw it down the field you get the wind in your face you say okay both throw it down the field i don't get you block a punt and you go backwards.

Speaker 24 You get a pick and you go backwards. It was just bad offensive football.
And

Speaker 24 I just remember being in games like this when I was in Denver and we were really good, Ocho. And it was almost like we had lost the game.

Speaker 24 It was almost like a funeral because you have a certain level of expectations that you expect to play to. Yes.
And Michael, and you hear me say this all the time.

Speaker 24 You never accept anything in a win that you wouldn't in a loss. Right.

Speaker 24 We won the game, but you cannot be happy with the way we played in winning the game.

Speaker 24 You play any team that you think your playoff team, okay? Maybe they go to the playoffs. You're not winning playing that type of offensive football.
Yeah,

Speaker 24 you just beat a bad team. The Raiders are bad.
Yes. They're bad, Ocho.
I mean, there's no way around it. I'm not going to sugarcoat it.
The Raiders are a bad team. Yes.

Speaker 24 Go ahead.

Speaker 23 But listen, the Raiders are 2-8. Offensively, they couldn't get anything going.
If I'm not mistaken, they had 12 or 12 or 13

Speaker 23 drives, a series

Speaker 23 where they went three and out, if I'm not mistaken. Obviously, Geno, with the offense playing as bad as they were, they can't overcome interceptions.
The hell, the goddamn Broncos defense,

Speaker 23 they are so goddamn good.

Speaker 23 I'm not saying they're the 2000 Ravens. I'm not saying the Legion of Boom, or they're not maybe not the no-fly zone of the Broncos season where they went to the Super Bowl, but they are goddamn good.

Speaker 23 They're very good. And minus, you know, P2 is not even playing right now.
I think he's going for the next three weeks. And they were phenomenal.
They were phenomenal.

Speaker 23 And that's why they were in the game. And for the Raiders, you have to understand games like this, this is why kickers are so important, Unc.

Speaker 23 Even though it was a snooze fest, it was an opportunity for the game to go in overtime. All the kicker for the Raiders had to do was make the kick.
Just make the kick. Games are won and lost.

Speaker 23 on the leg sometimes. You got one job to do, Uncle.
You have one job to do as a kicker that

Speaker 23 gives your team a chance to win or tie a game or send it in overtime. And he wasn't able to do that.
And listen,

Speaker 23 you said it right. It was a snooze fest tonight.
Not much offense, but it was a lot of defense played. And

Speaker 23 there's really not much to take away from it. But you do get games like this.

Speaker 23 You do have to win ugly games like this. And listen.

Speaker 24 The Broncos been winning ugly games.

Speaker 24 They beat the Texans last week.

Speaker 24 Basically, the games, just because you score a bunch of points in the end, has been ugly. I mean, you can't keep spotting teams like this.
That's the Raiders.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 24 I mean, you play good teams. It's going to be very interesting.

Speaker 24 Spot the Chargers like this. Spot Kansas City like this and see what happens.
You can't keep, oh, we can come back.

Speaker 24 It's great.

Speaker 23 Can I say something? Can I say something? Even if you do spot a monk, and even with the Chargers,

Speaker 23 even with the Chargers offense,

Speaker 23 even with the Chiefs offense, I don't think let's not underestimate how good the broncos defense is oh they defense again

Speaker 23 on on all on all three levels and offense might be somewhat of achilles heel for them right now but even special teams is good the special team is good and the defense is phenomenal so they can overcome bad offensive play because they can make up for it in certain areas but here's the thing what happens look this was a bad team

Speaker 24 The Raiders are bad. There's no way around it.
And I thought the game plan that they implemented tonight was bad. I thought Bo Knicks played his worst game of the year.

Speaker 24 Tonight, he was just downright awful.

Speaker 24 But, Ocho,

Speaker 24 other team, Kansas City, got an offense and a defense. The Chargers got an offense and a defense.

Speaker 24 So it's like, yeah, they're going, you're going to go. Man, look here.

Speaker 24 People keep telling me, man,

Speaker 24 y'all just picking on Riley Moss because he.

Speaker 24 That guy dropped a touchdown.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 24 That guy dropped an effing touchdown.

Speaker 23 Yes.

Speaker 24 Geno Smith overshot Lockett in the first half, a wide open.

Speaker 24 Now, I understand that is a tough route to cover. It is.

Speaker 24 Well, he missed Lockett on one, and he missed the other. I think it was Thornton that ran a whip route.
That was a hard route to cover. But we got to stop this.

Speaker 24 I understand, hey, you don't normally see white guys. You can probably count on one hand in the last 50 years that you've seen a white guy play corner.

Speaker 24 But boy, if that defense, they have Allen and Bonito and Cooper and those guys didn't get off the quarterback.

Speaker 23 Hey.

Speaker 23 Hey, Unc, them boys nasty up front, man.

Speaker 24 Oh, they jump off the ball now.

Speaker 23 Matter of fact, the front four for the Broncos right now is the way we talked about the front four for the Eagles last year.

Speaker 24 Yeah, they get off the ball.

Speaker 23 They are hell, especially them two on the out.

Speaker 23 That goddamn big.

Speaker 24 Bonito and Cooper.

Speaker 23 Hey, you see how fast he get off the goddamn ball?

Speaker 24 Yeah, I do. What? Hey, don't sleep on 99.
oh allen oh yeah and

Speaker 23 boy he whipping ass in there yeah he nice he nice he real he real hey for some reason for some reason on every team why is it always that the guard in the center always the weak link to offensive line why because you put your because your most athletic guys are edge rushers Your Miles Garrett, your TJ Watts, your Bonitos, those guys that play the edge.

Speaker 24 Lawrence Taylor, Derek Thomas, all those guys play the edge. So you put your most athletic, you put your least athletic guys on the inside.
Right.

Speaker 24 But then you get a guy like an Aaron Donald or a warren sapp and they go whip hell out of them oh yep

Speaker 24 and so that that's what happens and allen he's so he's he's he's tall for a d tackle right so and the thing is he can lock out and so now he locks out he'll he'll rip he'll swim

Speaker 24 he's he's phenomenal yeah he's having he's having a he's having a there ain't a whole lot of defensive tackles that are better than him they might have bigger names but he plays it all he plays the run he gets after your quarterback he can pressure your quarterback He back passes He'll put your quarterback on the ground He's a solid hey, he's a hard playing Jesse now.

Speaker 24 You got those two guys that's on the outside Reito and Cooper that's forcing everything inside So you step up here. He's there to clean up right there.
Yeah,

Speaker 24 so you hey it's first come first serve meet me at the quarterback

Speaker 24 I'll be there in about 0.73 seconds. Hey, you better not be late if you're late.

Speaker 24 But look,

Speaker 24 they said the game of football back this offensive football what we watch tonight this is not indicative of uh of the broncos i'm sorry i i've seen the broncos and i watch them every week and i try to watch them watch them closely and the third quarter is normally a snooze fest for them but they're a better football team than what they showed tonight oh joe they are the offensively the defensively and special teams won them this game tonight Yes, but you know, also, I think, I think, if I'm not mistaken, the way the play calling was, I think Sean Payton was actually protecting both Knicks, making sure he doesn't put him in situations that weren't advantageous for them where he can turn the ball over.

Speaker 23 Because

Speaker 23 I see Bo Nicks as somewhat of a gunslinger, huh?

Speaker 23 He liked to let that thing go. He liked to let it go.

Speaker 23 So the play calling to me, it was somewhat conservative to make sure he doesn't put Bo Nicks in situations where he can turn the ball over and give the Raiders opportunities to score.

Speaker 24 Nine of 30 on third downs, Ocho.

Speaker 24 The two teams combined, nine of 30.

Speaker 23 Yeah, that's crazy. That's crazy, ain't it?

Speaker 24 Nine of 30. Ocho, the Broncos had it third and one, and they run a gimmick.
Yeah. Oh, they're going to throw the Bo Nicks throw the ball to Cortland Sutton.
Courtney Sutton is going to throw the ball.

Speaker 24 Come, bro, get the first. Y'all are not.
You see, you're struggling offensively.

Speaker 23 Right.

Speaker 24 That's what I don't get. I see we're struggling offensively.
The last thing I need to do is get these guys off the field. Let me get this first down and maybe we can stay in a rhythm.
It's hard.

Speaker 24 The Broncos punter,

Speaker 24 he was terrible.

Speaker 24 The Raiders punter is putting the ball down at the foot line. He put the ball out of damn midfield.

Speaker 24 He damn near missed the whole ball. He kicked one ball with the shit with his shin.

Speaker 24 I'm like, how you missed the whole damn ball?

Speaker 23 Yeah,

Speaker 23 he shanked the bad.

Speaker 24 He shanked a couple of them.

Speaker 24 I'm like, well, maybe, maybe he can't see. I'm like, bro, what is going on? It's the bright lights.

Speaker 24 You're not going to play again for another 10 days, Ojo. You got the weekend off.

Speaker 24 That display, what they put on display tonight. Defense, defensively, the Broncos are legit defensively.
You're not going to find three, but you're not going to find two.

Speaker 24 Hey, they're top three defense, and I'm not so sure they're not two or three.

Speaker 23 Yeah.

Speaker 24 Their front seven. Their front seven matches up with anybody.
I don't give a damn who that front seven is.

Speaker 24 If you like Minnesota, if you like the Texans, if you like the Eagles, if you like the Rams, I don't care who you like, Green Bay, I don't care. They're front seven.

Speaker 24 Their best defensive player is not there. He's not back.
Pat Satan II.

Speaker 24 But when you put him back in there,

Speaker 23 hey,

Speaker 24 they're legit.

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