Deebo & Joe - MNF REACTION: Jalen Hurts & Eagles beat Jordan Love & Packers + Brian Daboll fired

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Speaker 7 Welcome back to Debo and Joe.

Speaker 2 I'm your host, James Debo Harrison, and I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.

Speaker 7 Please make sure you guys like and subscribe. You don't want to miss nothing.
Hey, how you doing today, Joe?

Speaker 7 Doing good, brother Debo. Doing good, man.
Always good to be with you. Watch another game.
I know that's your type of game. Great.

Speaker 7 Defensive specialist out there. Debs are all good.

Speaker 7 DBs did their thing out there. No question about that, man.
Yes, sir. No question about that.
Let's get on here into it, man. Let's get

Speaker 7 started off with the Rock. They actually get a good return, bro.
I think it's almost to the fourth.

Speaker 7 And then, like, they just go Jacobs crazy. First down, he gets a run for five.
Second, they pass it to him for six. The next first, I think he's three yards.
Then second, he gets four yards.

Speaker 7 Third down, he gets two.

Speaker 7 And they end up going for a fourth with the quarterback sneak. And they missed that offsides, but they ended up getting that sneak anyway.
Then they right backed to Jacobs.

Speaker 7 I think he only got like maybe a yard, if that on the next play. And then that second down, boy, Love, he got sack, sack.
And he almost lost that rock. Did you see that?

Speaker 7 Yes, bro. That's the...

Speaker 7 Jordan Love, he was making some unnecessary plays. I don't think he played well in the game.
We'll get to it. but that was just an initial one, getting him out of field goal range.

Speaker 7 Like, you don't have to take a set. He had a check down.
He had a bunch of different places he could have gone with that ball, but knocking him out of field goal range isn't his.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, no question. They uh, they end up having to punt.
After they punt the rock, Philly gets the ball. They was doing a lot of positional stuff.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 Making sure, trying to stay, they make sure they stay ahead of the chains or within the chains. Philly, you know, came out there and immediately they give it to Saquon.
He busts him for three.

Speaker 7 Hurts hits brown the next play for six then that that third tush push area they go for the tush push i don't know how they missed this one dude that was just makeup debo that was the that was the worst that was the worst one of all time he made contact with the defensive lineman for the ball i'm like how i don't know that that had to be a straight up makeup call dude there's no other way that that happened

Speaker 7 second down

Speaker 7 oh dude saquan he break him a good one for 15 man

Speaker 7 and then i think it was the second down pass uh well it would have would have been uh a completion but he was a hurts was a little off on that one

Speaker 7 they get a false start on the third that brings him to third and 10

Speaker 7 and then

Speaker 7 i think that was where uh

Speaker 7 i thought what's the name was go get him they was doing a lot of that all night now i think about it they was rushing past hurts dude he ends up being able to shake off you know bust loose and i think he hit um was it the running back, Shipley?

Speaker 7 I think he hit Shipley on that third and 10 for 11.

Speaker 7 They're able to, you know, continue to keep going the next, you know, couple plays, staying ahead of the chains. I think they get to the third and five.

Speaker 7 And again,

Speaker 7 Hurts, I think he hit Smith for what, eight right there. And he just sat down.
Like,

Speaker 7 like, why, I know the middle dude got to keep going. Like, why do you think they didn't, like, try and relate to that route? Like, it's third and five.
Like, y'all, y'all sitting right here. Like,

Speaker 7 I don't know, Debo. That's bad, bad ball.
Yeah,

Speaker 7 I don't know. I ain't understand that.
Cause later on, they did the opposite and they sat short on long one and dude was able to get it.

Speaker 7 I think they weren't trying to take the cheese, but at the same time, you got to be looking at the quarterback. If he's throwing that there, you got to be able to react.

Speaker 7 It looked like the middle backer was doing that too, where he just straight off keep going down the field. You know what I'm saying? And then your other two, they're zoning right there.

Speaker 7 Like somebody got to relate to that, dude. Like that's, that's just way too, too much openness.

Speaker 7 Pitcher catch. Yeah, for sure.
And then I think it was the third down coming up.

Speaker 7 Jalen take off and Cooper, he made a great play, dude. I mean, just straight punch right into that thing, bro.

Speaker 7 It was, that's, that's a good, that's a good defensive play. You know, they getting into the red zone and he was running it and he got it right before he went to the ground.

Speaker 7 So it was a great defensive play.

Speaker 7 It hurts. You wanted to protect the ball there, but you can't blame him.
That's a great play. He's ball surgeon.
He's looking to get that ball. Yeah.
Yeah. I mean, he wasn't.
He wasn't.

Speaker 7 And you know what? He was like that close from hitting the ground too, though. Like that.
He was that close. Green Bay get the ball back.
And the next snap, dude, love goes. And like.

Speaker 7 I don't know if he was trying to hand it off or what was going on. Like he fumbles the rock.
Like they get lucky.

Speaker 7 he it bounces right back to him bro they recovered for well i'm what would they lose two three yards on that or that one or something the next play they end up getting the ball batted down and uh what was it third and like 14 15 something like that he scrambles no it was third and third and 13 he scrambled for 12 dude like he was going going for that dude yeah

Speaker 7 like who's they backup because i don't know if he he got anywhere near to telling the look.

Speaker 7 You could have lost all that right there. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 No, for sure. He got to protect himself, man.
He's a, he's a franchise. They end up going for it on the fourth down with the sneak, and the rest finally catch it.

Speaker 7 I don't know why they can't see this dude. They're going to have to make that a reviewable play or something, man.
Like,

Speaker 7 you got to be able to review all sneaks, pushes, whatever it is.

Speaker 7 Bro, Debo, doesn't it throw you off, though, that they are so good at even getting a twitch for a false start, but you can't get people going all the way across the damn line before the ball is snapping hitting the defensive line it's obvious you know what i'm saying like you can get a little like when the like when the guard if he just moves back a little bit they easily can throw that if you see this dude falling forward before the ball is snapped i'm like ref that's it's too blatant that you can't be able to do that and if you want to put in their replay you obviously see people taking off hitting people like that is just getting it's getting crazy yeah but they actually they they they caught that one i don't know i think that's gonna be something that might i think they was only two short two uh votes short of losing that anyway, uh, last year.

Speaker 7 So that might be something that they'll, they'll actually get rid of. I don't hope, I hope they don't get rid of it.

Speaker 7 I hope they just make it like, yo, it's a quick New York review to make sure ain't nobody jump off sides. Yeah, I just don't, I feel you.

Speaker 7 I don't think it's that, it's not that bad of a play, but you got to run it legally. Snap the ball first.
And then if you guys can't be able to get under us, then you're able to get under us.

Speaker 7 But don't be able to take off before, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's just, that's just cheating. No question.
Philly get the ball back. The uh,

Speaker 7 Green Bay, they ended up getting, what was it, two negative plays there? But I think it was more like the players like slipping, bro. Like the tackle went to pull around.
He slapped.

Speaker 7 He slipped, sat right there. It was all in front of Saquon.

Speaker 7 The next play, Saquon got the little screen. He slipped, you know, couldn't get off.
And I think third down, they just was just playing it safe. did a little run.
They punted the rock to him.

Speaker 7 And Green Bay

Speaker 7 get the ball back. And again,

Speaker 7 they go Jacobs crazy. I think first down was a five-yard run.
Second down was 11.

Speaker 7 Then the first down, three. Second down, they ended up losing a yard.

Speaker 7 And then third down, I think

Speaker 7 he got six or whatever. Was that right? Yeah, because they went for the, you know, they tried to make like they was going to go for it on fourth down, trying to get him to jump off sides.

Speaker 7 Ain't nobody going to do that stupid shit, you know what I'm saying? Unless they cleave. Nobody go, you know?

Speaker 7 See, you got to hold your water. Just saying, right.
You know what I'm saying? You're right. You're right.
That's just,

Speaker 7 that was just bad ball. Yeah, you know, they ended up putting the ball.
And then the first play when Jalen ends up scrambling again and he throws that thing across, dude.

Speaker 7 I just knew somebody was about to

Speaker 7 bump that. I just knew the way they was playing.
I'm like, yo, somebody's going to snatch that right there. Yeah.
Ended up getting eight.

Speaker 7 And then again, like I said, them DBs was balling. Second down.
Was balling, bro. Six.
He goes in there and makes a nice breakup, dude.

Speaker 7 Third down, they get the incompletion. Again, the DB, he was

Speaker 7 right there. I think

Speaker 7 he was ready to undercut that. On the money, if it wasn't wide, I think

Speaker 7 he's gone. No, no, no, for sure.
That's why he threw that ball. That's why the DB was sitting there like this.
He went to go break on it and the nose passes.

Speaker 7 If it was a completed pass, it'd have been completed to the DB.

Speaker 7 So it's either you're going to have to throw that ball out of bounds, brother, and be in completion, let it fight fight another down, or he's going to take the ball.

Speaker 7 I think it was just an off-throw. Like, dude hadn't even really broke yet for him to try and adjust in the middle of the throw.

Speaker 7 Yeah, you just, it was bad pass. But sometimes that works

Speaker 7 in your favor. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Philly, they go ahead and the punter, he shanks the ball, ends up giving it to him at the 42.
Now Green Bay got a, got a short field.

Speaker 7 You're thinking they might, you know, they might be able to do something. But again, dude, like the DBs, dude, they making some nice breakups, dude.
Like

Speaker 7 on both sides of the ball, they get to a, I think it was a third and eight, and he gets the ball batted down. They end up punting.
Philly get the rock again. First down, they staying ahead.

Speaker 7 Saquon, he gets another, gets another seven. They end up getting off setting on the

Speaker 7 next play where they had a, I think they had a nice gain on that one.

Speaker 7 Third and two, I think it was like a pass interference. They gave him another first.

Speaker 7 And then they go false start and a holding and back to back end up going to a first and 25, bro. They end up punting the ball.

Speaker 7 They get the, they, they, they get the ball down at the eight, but they got a holding call. They make them re-kick it.
So Philly got to re-kick it.

Speaker 7 And now they end up returning it and getting the ball at like, I think it was like the 30 or 35 35 or something like that. Dude, like that re-kick.

Speaker 7 You ever been on special teams when they got to do the re-kick, dude?

Speaker 7 Yes, brother. You're exhausted.
Exhausted. They don't know.
You don't know how much effort you put into that one play.

Speaker 7 Oh, man, that gunner, you got to run down that thing full speed and you're getting jumped. No question.
You're getting double teamed.

Speaker 7 You're getting beat all the way down there, dude.

Speaker 7 Man, the first down, Green Bay get the ball. Love Connect for eight, I think.
Jacobs ends up picking up

Speaker 7 a first down a second down with a five-yard run.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 Jacobs again, bro. Another five yards.
Second down,

Speaker 7 love scrambled on that thing, man. I just knew he was sick.
I'm like, I ain't, I couldn't see how he got out of that one.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, his capability. Love got good.
Your love got good athleticism. Yeah, dude.
Love his Jacobs, I think, for another nine.

Speaker 7 And then leading up to that next

Speaker 7 first down,

Speaker 7 Love got sacked, dude. Like,

Speaker 7 this

Speaker 7 is this one where he fumbled. This ain't the one where he fumbled.

Speaker 7 This had a lot of, he fumbled on the next one, though. This had a lot of like just coverage pressures and sacks, dude.
Like, he be covering, bro.

Speaker 7 No, for sure. They was playing.
They had nowhere to go with the ball.

Speaker 7 And like you said, on that next second down, that's where, you know, he gets sacked and he tries to like get the ball out and throw it, you know, just doing too much at that time.

Speaker 7 You know, I think they were in field goal range at that point or something like that was that yeah yeah yeah yes bro

Speaker 7 it was on the 27 yard line brother yeah

Speaker 7 philly so that that's what the thing with with love when i was watching the game too like you just can't they was in the first drive when they was in field goal range and he put them out of field goal range by taking the sack and then before halftime somehow we need to get points and you just doing too much losing the rock trying to do just go down with it or throw it out of bounds get he couldn't do nothing with it he already had his hand wrapped up he's trying to switch it to the other hand lose it like it's crazy

Speaker 7 yeah yeah you're just doing too much though brother i'm just saying right there we could have had six points we ended up losing by three but those is just six easy buckets that or three it could have been over you know what i'm saying could have been overtime like worst case well worst case is it is what happened they turned the ball

Speaker 7 worst case yeah worst case

Speaker 7 philly get the you know philly get the ball back and again dude they they running past they running past hurts, man. He scrambles.

Speaker 7 He gets out of the pocket for, you know, I think it was like maybe three, four yards, something like that.

Speaker 7 And like, at what point do you like say to your pass rushers, hey, don't rush past this dude, man. This is not Joe Flacco.
You can't rush past him and hope to circle back around.

Speaker 7 He's going to take off. Yeah.

Speaker 7 You're creating pass. You're creating escape lanes for him and he's going to use them.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 And, you know, it's coming towards the end of the half. They just do a fourth down where they're just trying to burn the clock out.
They burn the clock out, throw it out of bounds.

Speaker 7 It's a great half, though, man. Zero-0, man.
Zero-0.

Speaker 7 That's my kind of game, baby.

Speaker 7 And it was defense was making plays. Defense was making plays.
They was forcing turnovers when they got into the red zone. You know what I'm saying? Sacking them when they were in field goal range.
So

Speaker 7 defenses were stepping up.

Speaker 7 I knew this was your type of game. This is what football should look like.

Speaker 7 I started realizing now, Debo, the more I become a fan, that I become kind of not, I want the defense. Like, I don't like false passing interferences.

Speaker 7 Like, I see offense gets away with everything, but you do kind of want to see, like, are they doing bad or is the defense doing good? So, when some of the plays, you don't know what it is.

Speaker 7 I'm like, I like it, but like, hold on, the defense is strapping. Or you're like, this man, that's a bad pass.
I'm like, no, that's a good ass play by the DB. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 So, it's a little bit of both, like both getting paid at the same time. So, it's like, are these, is that bad? But it's like, no, these dudes are also good.
You know what I'm saying? No question.

Speaker 7 Philly come out.

Speaker 7 They get the ball in the third quarter again, staying ahead first play saquan he runs it for seven they end up getting to that next i believe first down and he hits he hits godder for like 22.

Speaker 7 again this is a situation where like yo like ain't nothing in front of him this time though like so like keep going back they end up keep sinking they end up settling and you know he he gets it he gets it behind him you know the next play i think hurts missed the tight end like he had that that.

Speaker 7 Like that would have been, that would have been money right there. If he was able to short that.

Speaker 7 They give it to Saquon. He hit another six.
It puts him, you know, in that third down. I think they hit Goddard again for eight.

Speaker 7 The first down, I think

Speaker 7 he scrambled again.

Speaker 7 Again, I think he scrambled for what, another five, six or something.

Speaker 7 Like.

Speaker 7 Next, I think Walker,

Speaker 7 what was it? He shot through that thing. Boy, solid tackle for a negative.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah. Tackle for loss.
That was a good play. That was a good play right there.
Like, I like seeing stuff like that. They end up getting a delayed game on third down.
They go to third and 12.

Speaker 7 Again, I'm thinking, you know, they playing it safe because they know they within field goal range. So they go ahead, play it safe.

Speaker 7 They get a field goal.

Speaker 7 First score.

Speaker 7 Just what? First score of the game? 3-0. Nine minutes or over nine minutes left in the the third quarter, bro.
3-0, man. I'm loving this, man.
Like,

Speaker 7 this is what I like to see, man. I don't even know what people understand.
Like,

Speaker 7 when you defensive-minded, like, I want to see, I want to see everybody play good on both sides. Like,

Speaker 7 when I'm watching somebody that I don't root for, I want to see everybody play good on both sides. That way I see a good, good game, you know? That's kind of like when you see Pittsburgh, Cleveland.

Speaker 7 I understand how you feel on that. But I only feel like that because I have no loyalty to any of them.

Speaker 7 you have no loyalty to the same so i don't know how you could feel like that and you say you got loyalty to both but anyway

Speaker 7 uh

Speaker 7 see it's it's the complete opposite of what you're saying you know when you don't have no loyalty to either team it's the complete opposite i have all my loyalty oh so teams when you don't have none is here

Speaker 7 and when you have

Speaker 7 none you could just look at it from an outside

Speaker 7 When I got it from so much, then I'm looking at it from we got the same perspective, but just completely different. I got you.
I got you. Green Bay, get out there.
love hit watson for 20.

Speaker 7 like you know they they moving the ball a little bit they staying ahead of the chains a little you know and then uh hunt i think he made a nice play dude for that loss yes before was a four-yard loss

Speaker 7 that was that was nice that was nice second down love ends up scrambling for about five

Speaker 7 And third down, dude, that was a great pass, dude. Great pass, but he couldn't hold on to it.

Speaker 7 Dobbs could not hold on to that thing, buddy. Yes, he got a snatch.
Oh, all day, bro. We got a snatch.
He ended up going for it on fourth and nine. Fourth and nine.
Here's the crazy thing.

Speaker 7 It would have been a first down if,

Speaker 7 who was it?

Speaker 7 Was it Milton? Milton hadn't dropped the ball.

Speaker 7 That's a first down for sure. He's there clear.

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Speaker 7 yeah he was in a good spot though oh yeah he would have made the tackle for sure but dude dropped the rock so they ended up yeah he ended up turning it over on on downs philly get the ball back i'm thinking it might be a little bit of trouble but dude green bay they stand up three and out i mean three and out quick i mean of course with that you know that uh what was it six yards negative six yards like

Speaker 7 nobody blocked that's gonna say nobody

Speaker 7 he went free he dropped saquan like

Speaker 7 how do you not block him like he's right there he's he's one of the one up front like how you don't block the d lineman bro that don't don't even make no sense. They end up having to punt the rock.

Speaker 7 Green Bay gets it back. They start feeding Jacobs again.
He gets 11 on the first down.

Speaker 7 I think the next first down, they hit Wicks for 20.

Speaker 7 You know, later, I think he Love ends up hitting Watson for 22,

Speaker 7 but they got that illegal formation that killed it, bro. Killed the whole drive.
The whole drive. Again, the DBs make a nice play that repeated that second down

Speaker 7 you know that third down coverage is great again he end up having to scramble and throw it away they punt the rock

Speaker 7 philly get it back

Speaker 7 like

Speaker 7 it starts to have a little bit of breakdown a little bit

Speaker 7 yes this yeah you can you can only fight for so long as some you can only fight for so long zaquan is still also getting paid 20 million dollars a year as the best running back in the league So, how long are you going to do that?

Speaker 7 No question, bro. That third, that third and seven, they gave him that little short one, dude.
Dude, I knew dude wasn't going to get him.

Speaker 7 I'm like, he either go running around him or he go run over him, bro.

Speaker 7 He's going to make this man. He's going to something.
Something's going to happen. He's not about to tackle it.
It's so much open space. I couldn't even see when he first caught the ball.

Speaker 7 Like,

Speaker 7 no.

Speaker 7 Put him in. No.

Speaker 7 Put him in the spin cycle.

Speaker 7 all the way spin cycle dude if i'm i ain't gonna even lie to you bro if i'm not if that's me right there and i'm coming up to tackle him i'm not even breaking down i'm gonna take my shot i'm gonna you gotta shoot yourself i'm going to shoot you gotta shoot your shot in the dark and hope that he don't think i'm gonna do it and

Speaker 7 do a stutter all that all that all that little slowing down trying to chop your feet is gonna get you broke down exactly what he got Exactly what he got.

Speaker 7 Man, then the next play, Hurt's gone ahead and lay lay that thing out to Smith. Man, that was a nice play, man.
That was good.

Speaker 7 That's how you make a play on the ball. 46-yard touchdown is 10 to Nathan.

Speaker 7 I'm thinking Green Bay ain't really did too much work on it. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 I'm thinking it might be over with.

Speaker 7 And then Green Bay come out there, bro. They go 11 plays, 77-yard score touchdown, bro.
Of course, with the help, big PI, 20-plus PI.

Speaker 7 And of course, Jacob, he finished it off with the six-yard touchdown. Bruh, it's 7 to 10 with just under six minutes left in the fourth.
We got a game game now, dude. We got a game game.

Speaker 7 Phillip get up out there. I think they was able to do about, what was it, nine or 10 plays, but the big one was that third.
I thought it was over. I think got that third down completion.

Speaker 7 Third and 12. Yeah, third and 12 to Devontae Smith.
Oh, I was like, oh, that's that's good money. Bruh, I'm like, yeah, I don't, I don't know if that's,

Speaker 7 I don't know if they're going to be able to slow this down, man.

Speaker 7 They go and start doing a little running here and there. I think they forced Green Bay at that point to maybe call one timeout.

Speaker 7 Because, yeah, on the third and eight, they go and they pass the ball. It stops the clock.

Speaker 7 If they had ran it, they would have used up another, they'd have had to at least use up another timeout, some time off the clock.

Speaker 7 and they end up i think giving green bay the ball back with like almost 220 left on the clock or something like that yeah exactly

Speaker 7 green bay they go ahead

Speaker 7 get to i think it was like a third and 10

Speaker 7 and love yep connects again to that boy watson for 25 and it's just now the two-minute warning bro

Speaker 7 Like, I'm like, yo, this could, you know, this could be interesting, dude. No, for sure.
Bro,

Speaker 7 I hate that it was Jacobs, bro.

Speaker 7 It had to be.

Speaker 7 I hate it. Had to be him, man.
He was doing so well.

Speaker 7 Yes, he was.

Speaker 7 And they

Speaker 7 tried to give him that rock. Game that rock.
He got that first down. I think he had like four or five yards.
And then he fumbled that thing, bro.

Speaker 7 Cole Philly recovered his son. I'm like, okay, they still.
you know they still got a they got a few timeouts

Speaker 7 they might be able to you know stop them green bay then i think they ended up stopping them stopping saquan on the two saquan on the first two uh runs and they had timeouts so they was able to call their timeouts and then

Speaker 7 i don't know why they went for it on the fourth down on fourth and six they threw the fade ball like to

Speaker 7 i i didn't understand that at all your defense has been balling give them crazy

Speaker 7 hunt the joint down there, and then they're only going to have like 20-somethings. You know what I thought? You know what I thought they were about to do?

Speaker 7 I thought they were about to do a quick kick

Speaker 7 where you snap it to the

Speaker 7 quarterback, and then they don't have quarterback turner back there. They're not thinking about that.
He punts it, and then y'all just go and cover it.

Speaker 7 That's what I'm about to do. And then I'm like, dude, they actually threw the rock.
Like, that's crazy, bro.

Speaker 7 Yeah, bro.

Speaker 7 If Green Bay gets the ball back down, that first down, he throws that thing up, dude. If it wasn't for that coverage,

Speaker 7 we'd be talking about a different score right now, I believe.

Speaker 7 Second down, they ended up getting one for 18.

Speaker 7 And then

Speaker 7 they go for the field goal. Dude, went on head and got him a quick practice kick.
I see him saying, snap it, snap it. After they called the timeout, he snapped the kick.

Speaker 7 It was like, I'm trying to get the extra. My leg ain't gonna get there, baby.
All right, come on. Let the the offense go back out there.

Speaker 7 See if we can't pick up a quick, you know, five, five, six yard out or something.

Speaker 7 They not complete that. They like, hell, ain't no time left.
They put him back out there. We got to do it.
And, you know, he shanked the ball. Philly going ahead and win 10 to 7, bro.

Speaker 7 Listen, that's my type of game, man. I liked that.

Speaker 7 I don't think it gets no better than that, baby.

Speaker 7 I feel like it was really, it was good. It was really good defense.

Speaker 7 Like you said, Debo, on both sides of the ball, I feel like both quarterbacks uh definitely underperform, but sometimes, like you said, it's either the defense is doing it to you, you're applying pressure, or you're getting pressure applied to you.

Speaker 7 So, I think them playing sticky man-to-man, you know what I'm saying, that made situations tough.

Speaker 7 But those fumbles, you know, I'm saying the in the red zones, the sacks that you're in love took, I don't think that was good for you know, I'm saying, like, those are just mistakes that you took points off the board for your team.

Speaker 7 But it was a,

Speaker 7 I can't take nothing from Philly's defense or uh Green Bay defense because they were out there.

Speaker 7 It came down to

Speaker 7 Philly's defense

Speaker 7 played better

Speaker 7 than

Speaker 7 Green Bay's defense did. And then Green Bay's offense didn't make those

Speaker 7 chunk plays, didn't get those situational things together where Philly got chunk plays, dude. Like they only had, what was it, three chunk plays altogether? That was, that was like,

Speaker 7 that's all it took. And they did it at times that helped them put point need on the board

Speaker 7 and Green Bay. They weren't able to.
The defense, I like dude. I like seeing that defense outplayed the other defense.

Speaker 7 The offense made the plays when they needed to, the other defense made the plays when they needed to. The combination of the two, they came through with the W.

Speaker 7 This is what good on good football looks like, people. It shouldn't be 45 to 43, and y'all think it's a great guess.
No, it's not. That was trash.
Yes,

Speaker 7 like that was trash.

Speaker 7 No, for sure.

Speaker 7 There wasn't a lot of missed tackles. You know what I'm saying? There's people are on their alignments, assignments, techniques.
There's red zones. They're making plays when they need to.

Speaker 7 Like, don't think the Eagles are a good offensive team. The

Speaker 7 Green Bay is a good offensive team. Jacobs is a great running back.
You know what I'm saying? Love. He's been able to cut people up.

Speaker 7 When these dudes are in position, making plays, these third downs, where tight coverages, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 He's throwing it out of bounds because hopefully, if not, it would have been a pick six. So it's really good seeing defenses like that being able to step up, perform.

Speaker 7 And on the offensive side of the ball, you know, that there's plays to be made and there's things that were left on the field.

Speaker 7 But when you're at Philly, you're still able to walk out of that stadium with a dub, knowing your defense balled out.

Speaker 7 And offense, there's so much left on the bone for us to be able to score points, be able to make these plays. And both, both head coaches, like, yo, it's going to be a dogfight.

Speaker 7 Like, we know what's going on. We're not going to sit here and be and break ourselves into, you know, doing ridiculous plays that we know aren't going to, aren't going to succeed.

Speaker 7 succeed we're gonna have to earn get it down there and pick our spots of where we're gonna try and get a chunk play here and there you know head coaches were smart speaking to the head coaches bro they they announced that they fired your boy the ball over there in uh

Speaker 7 what was it new york yeah buddy

Speaker 7 over and i think they said the um gm

Speaker 7 is staying

Speaker 7 is that right

Speaker 7 yeah bruh how does that work?

Speaker 7 I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 7 You agree with me? You disagree? You think it's too late, too soon?

Speaker 7 You know what? This is me.

Speaker 7 This is just my personal fan.

Speaker 7 Please tell me.

Speaker 7 If I didn't fire him at the end of 24,

Speaker 7 I would have definitely fired him like

Speaker 7 at least three, four weeks ago. Like,

Speaker 7 you at the end of 24, they lost 10 straight bro that was a franchise record bro like they lost 10 straight okay on top of that

Speaker 7 maybe

Speaker 7 he was able to talk him into saying like hey it's not me he set jones down and then he got rid of jones okay and then yeah oh daniel jones went over there and showed that hey this ain't me over there it was not my fault so now you're looking back and you're like oh maybe it wasn't him.

Speaker 7 Recent history, you know, it shows that the ball, you can't even hold a lead to get the win.

Speaker 7 That's what I'm saying. Like, I don't understand the

Speaker 7 don't get rid of the GM part unless you're saying the GM had no power to make any kind of decisions and you gave all the power to the head coach to make the decisions on who you get, what you're doing, everything else that's the only way i can see that you still hold on to the gm

Speaker 7 like

Speaker 7 this whole situation i'm i'm more of a how do you feel about i'm more of a coach i like when the coach and the gm are more married to each other because you got to like work together you're going to be giving the coach the players and the coach you got to have a relationship i i like that more i think that works out more smooth than gm you just get the coach the players and now he got to deal with whatever you got him whatever you give him I understand what you're saying you know at

Speaker 7 I think that's how it should work but I think most places one person has more power than the other because when it comes down to it and I say yes you say no

Speaker 7 who's the deciding buck stop somewhere Yeah, which way do it go? Do it go to do it do it go to head coach way or do it do it go to GM's way?

Speaker 7 So maybe this is a situation where it just kept going ahead coach way. Maybe, you know, they're saying the interim

Speaker 7 head coach is going to be the OC, you know, and he had been there since what, 2022 or something like that. He came in with Dayball.
So maybe that was a situation where

Speaker 7 dude came out of Kansas City. He was in KC for like five years, something like that, over there with Pat Mahomes and them.
And maybe

Speaker 7 he wanted to keep Daniel. You know what I'm saying? I just like playing

Speaker 7 stuff started. Just like getting stuff started.
Maybe he wanted to keep Daniel Jones. He saw what it could be.
But the ball's like, no, I got to get rid of him. I got to save my own ass because,

Speaker 7 like, I don't want to get fired.

Speaker 7 No, no, no, for sure. I think they get, I mean, Dabo, he went 20, 40, and one.
Double losses.

Speaker 7 Come on.

Speaker 7 20, 40, and one. And then this year blew three 10-point leads.

Speaker 7 So, I mean, that's just not good and then i think with jackson dart seeing what you have there um with the getting rid of the head coach instead of gm i don't know how they really are doing that because i'm not rocking with the gm i don't think as much this who aren't the gm the one that got rid of saquan barkley and uh daniel jones oh was he the same dude there

Speaker 7 i'm thinking so so oh man all y'all gotta go man I'm looking at it like at the end of the day, all y'all got to go. We need to take care of Dart because we actually do have a pretty good quarterback.

Speaker 7 We need to get him protected with the offensive line. I think Dart needs to kind of take care of itself, protect itself.
He already got damn near four concussions already rookie season.

Speaker 7 So, line being able to make sure you protect this dude and not making him get hit upside the head all the time. He got to be able to slide, get the ball out of his hands.
Cause I like Dart.

Speaker 7 I think he's got to play

Speaker 7 some of those.

Speaker 7 He, no, he got to protect himself and they got to not call as many running plays. You know what I'm saying? So he got to be able to get the ball out of his hand.

Speaker 7 So I'm more with if you're getting rid of Dayball, you need to get rid of that whole GM that made bad decisions and getting rid of Saquon and Daniel Jones.

Speaker 7 It's just a whole little bit of messed up whole thing over there. Start fresh knowing you got a good quarterback.

Speaker 7 Get somebody that's that's going to help out Dart, that believes in him, a GM that loves that, that believes in Dart. I think when you bring people in, you have a quarterback.

Speaker 7 You got a nice running back scatterboard. You have some young pieces.
The receiver too, my man

Speaker 7 LSU, he's been hurt all year. So you don't have your number one.

Speaker 7 like you're out there playing with all your pieces still aren't out there so it's not like you don't have talent they have talent you got a quarterback that i really like you need to protect them and bring in a gm and a coach that also believe in yeah yeah for sure you i like i said i'm i'm getting rid of the gm speaking of getting rid of

Speaker 7 uh i guess the stillers cut the safety uh thornhill

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Like, I don't know if that's a big move.

Speaker 7 Um, I don't really think much. Like, they made like they was about to make a move move.
I don't, that's the move move.

Speaker 7 I mean, we got in the dude, Kyle Dugger, the young

Speaker 7 safety 29. That he soon as he came in, he's been playing a lot better.
He hasn't been missing assignments. I haven't seen too much.
Like, he's making tackles.

Speaker 7 Communication really hasn't been too many busts. So, I mean, if you see him step in there, and I haven't seen any downfall.
And they said that he got a Thornhill ended up getting demoted.

Speaker 7 So, he's been playing kind of more specific.

Speaker 7 You ain't getting no regular snaps. You're on special teams.
You ain't getting no regular snaps, you know, no, no spot, especially as a, you know, as a safety.

Speaker 7 Like, you're supposed to be in there on them nickel packages, something that keeps

Speaker 7 relevant, especially when all you're doing is special teams.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So, I mean, I'm glad. I mean, I'm not glad that they got rid of him, but I just seen Kyle Duggar that's in there and he hasn't been playing bad at all.

Speaker 7 He's just been in position, not too many flashes, but if your name isn't being called, sometimes as a DB, that's a good thing. You know what I'm saying? Sometimes.
Right, right.

Speaker 7 Dude, did you look at that?

Speaker 7 The photo of Aaron, bro.

Speaker 7 Did I? I think I sent it to you.

Speaker 7 Listen. Bro,

Speaker 7 that looks uncomfortable. Can we even put that picture up? Can we put that picture up, please? Man, it's right there.
Yeah, it is.

Speaker 7 Screen is so small, bro.

Speaker 7 Hey,

Speaker 7 that's one of them hits that you see a boxer get where it distorts his whole face you can't even tell

Speaker 7 yes you know yes

Speaker 7 we done

Speaker 7 it like a jump boom catch him on slow motion we done freeze frame my dog we put him in that's that that's a very vulnerable position and that's bud too

Speaker 7 no question so was that a sack or was it a

Speaker 7 i think it might have been a i think it was a sack

Speaker 7 like i like starting talking you know i like i like you know i like starting stuff man so isn't that helmet to helmet

Speaker 7 That is for sure. Helmet.

Speaker 7 You see his helmet? You think

Speaker 7 he go get him an envelope, a FedEx?

Speaker 7 Only reason he may not was because he was

Speaker 7 because he was running, because he was running the ball,

Speaker 7 but

Speaker 7 he still might get him.

Speaker 7 I mean, I don't want it to happen because

Speaker 7 I don't want it to happen here.

Speaker 7 Then, dude, it's bad. He didn't lower his head.
He didn't do nothing. He just ran over there and tackled the man.
He didn't even really put any knee bend into it. So

Speaker 7 find him on this, man. We defense

Speaker 7 in trouble.

Speaker 7 I'm a text bud and see if he got fine. I hope.
Yeah, check it out. See if he got fine, bro.
See if he got fine.

Speaker 7 And I hope if we get fine, it's not because we, because it's on our, because it's on the show and we like drop snitching on them. Man, listen, they ain't listening to us.

Speaker 7 They don't pay no attention, especially if it's me. Whatever I say, they go do the opposite.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 Find the hell out of him, Roger. He ain't going to do what I say.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 NFL don't care, man.

Speaker 7 Man, yeah, they hopefully don't find that. Man, they got an NFL exec saying that Tua, his benching, and Mike Ncdaniel's firing should have been done already, dude.
What do you think, bro?

Speaker 7 Look,

Speaker 7 we've been talking about McDaniel Depot since way earlier, way, way, way long time ago earlier in the season.

Speaker 7 Thinking with the way the like leader of men answers to questions, just being able to like, I just don't know sometimes what he was saying in the meetings. I mean, not in the meetings,

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Speaker 7 He don't want him to get let out. I don't know.
I'm just, you know, I just, I put stuff out there.

Speaker 7 You, you, you, always, you always going from the devil on this side of your show.

Speaker 7 You know, it's both. You know, he'd be like, say it, say it, say it.
I'll be like, no, no, no,

Speaker 7 I would,

Speaker 7 I wouldn't be surprised. I wouldn't be mad at it.
Because at the end of the day, too,

Speaker 7 I just don't, like, with Tua, I mean, some games he could be amazing. Some games he won't.

Speaker 7 I just don't really like Tua's like leadership, the way that he was kind of going about, the way that he was doing things.

Speaker 7 So I could say he rubs other just professional people the wrong way you know what i'm saying so i could see how his his play and then the way that he leads a little bit could rub people the wrong way but the investment they have in him is probably why they trying to keep him out there and not put him on the bench uh for coach the way that he's been able to handle some of these situations the way the team has been playing like i could easily see why they could get rid of him and tour so um them not doing it They're doing a good job of sometimes just stepping up.

Speaker 7 When it gets real bad, they perform very well because they know that, you know what I'm saying? It could could be any game. They do really, really bad, they can easily get fired.

Speaker 7 The name is always on the hot seat. So, I think they're doing a good job of just trying to fight for their jobs.
They know it's on the line, they know everybody's talking about them.

Speaker 7 But then, at the same time, I wouldn't be surprised if it already happened. Yeah, I um

Speaker 7 don't know, bro. I think,

Speaker 7 you know, well, I'll put it to you like this. They say

Speaker 7 it's heard that Stephen Ross said he was basically giving until until at least the end of the year if not all of next year to see you know to see where it's at you know what i'm saying you know

Speaker 7 it's

Speaker 7 i think the biggest thing for me is like yo i'm i gotta get rid of you you you losing football games period that's what that's what that's the first thing and then secondly as you said everything around you with the players, how they're getting along with each other,

Speaker 7 what my starting quarterback is doing, how he's representing it, what he's saying.

Speaker 7 I'm not down with it. And on top of that,

Speaker 7 they don't get rid of nobody. And then they end up firing the two player personnel

Speaker 7 guys

Speaker 7 that have been with the team since, what was it, 99, 94? Like, what did they do?

Speaker 7 You go fire somebody. You go fire some dudes

Speaker 7 that have been there for over, you know, 25 years, 20 plus years. Like, what did they do to get, like, did they have some fault in this? Are you trying to figure out like

Speaker 7 what powers do they have that would make it to where they're the ones that you get rid of and you do nothing about the head coach who can't put together a sentence, man?

Speaker 7 And your quarterback that's just dry snitching on everybody. Don't know.
You're not, you got a player's only meeting week one, um, and nobody is going and showing up to it.

Speaker 7 Like, you have no camaraderie, like nothing. And you're giving the,

Speaker 7 yeah, we go try this. And you do nothing.
You ain't tried nothing. All you did was try to make like you was go try something.
You ain't tried nothing. Like, I'm trying to tell you, man.

Speaker 7 He got something. He got to have something on Ross, man.
I don't know, man. I'm just putting it out there, man.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 7 How the quarterback go stay around after that kind of performance? And then the responses and and and things that he give to why things happened or didn't happen it's unbelievable bro

Speaker 7 no i i i i'm i'm with you debo but you know how them it either them uh the owners probably are right now knowing end of the day they got tour there for 55 million dollars a year they paid him that dough so he kind of is not going nowhere so they kind of living in the bed that they made and then with the coach i could see them getting fired but then at the same time when they come and beat the bills by doing something, you know, it's not a bad look.

Speaker 7 Like, all right, you know what I'm saying? You could, okay, bet. Player, like we said, too, the players are professionals.

Speaker 7 So even if you don't like your coach, you're going to go out there and ball because I honestly don't lie.

Speaker 7 I'm trying to get a, I'm trying to get a contract letting everybody know I'm worth whatever I'm worth, no matter if I'm playing for them or I'm playing for the bills, I'm playing for whoever.

Speaker 7 I can get picked up if I leave this spot. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 So players going to play, they're going to perform, but it's kind of like you could get rid of the coach and then he's not answering questions. And then you go out there and beat the bills.

Speaker 7 So I'm like, damn. So then you got to go.
But you also got to think about the bills. They probably played down to it.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, no, for sure. We talked about that too.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 They were in Miami, right?

Speaker 7 You in Miami. Yep.
You going ahead, you're getting into some good weather. Man, they're thinking about all this good weather.
They just came out of Buffalo. It's cold.
And a Mickey Ficky up in there.

Speaker 7 You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 H-han went fed on him and Tua was doing some deep questions.

Speaker 7 Like,

Speaker 7 I don't, yeah, I don't don't know. And matter of fact, let's stick with the quarterbacks.
What about Kyler Murray over there?

Speaker 7 You think he still he still can be like a one, you know, a number one quarterback, starter? What's what do you think, man?

Speaker 7 Is that saying he can try baseball?

Speaker 7 They tripping out their mind. I'll see, look, if, like, and for, if I were the Browns, I would, I would love Kyler Murray.
I wouldn't be mad at Kyler Murray.

Speaker 7 Even though they said he's short, I think he could still, he could still move around.

Speaker 7 He he could still throw the ball browns ain't gonna give century a chance what you think they gonna give kylan murray a chance for he a put sure i understand but when you you asked me a question to is he a starting quarterback so i'm like i think he still is a starting quarterback i don't know if it is in arizona he might get switch destinations i don't know if that they're still getting along or if that that vibe is right especially even with new situation, I think could start better for him because remember when he, even when he wrote his contract debo and they was like,

Speaker 7 yeah, you have to study your iPad for x amount of hours i'm like hold the hold well that was because you said that was because he was not a guy that was known for doing the things that needed to be done even inside the facility they're like yo this dude is the first dude uh first dude out and the last dude in quarterback okay no no i respect that but look look how about this How about the same thing you said with George, too?

Speaker 7 Maybe you need another place to grow. Maybe a little separate, give you a little time, a different scenery, people to actually believe in you.
And now he knows, no, I can't be on that.

Speaker 7 You know what I'm saying? Like, this is my second chance. I got another spot.
I got to show them what I'm about. And I got to prove to everybody else I'm a winner.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 I can make it happen. So

Speaker 7 I don't not believe in Kyler Murray because the talent, his arm strength, his speed,

Speaker 7 I just don't know about the progression, but I know he can. I think he could be an NFL quarterback.
Solid.

Speaker 7 I think he's an athlete. I'm with you.
I think he can be a one somewhere, but it got to be in that

Speaker 7 perfect

Speaker 7 setup. I think even him himself, he's a guy that has trouble throwing over tall lineman.
Like he has an issue. He has said that.
And I think that's a personal issue that

Speaker 7 he has to figure out how to be able to get over and be able to adjust and still be successful. Because now they got to roll him out of the pocket.

Speaker 7 They got to do all of that, especially in a time where, you know, it's, it's timing passes.

Speaker 7 Boom, boom, get it to him, you know, and he can't see that the dude is actually open because somebody's in front of him. He's not used to doing it.
I mean, it could be done.

Speaker 7 All you got to do is, you know, go look at Doug Fluty, did it for 10 plus years or whatever. Drew Brees, but I'm talking about that five, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 Like, Drew Brees was closer to six, I believe.

Speaker 7 He lived

Speaker 7 dude, like five, nine. You know what I'm saying? Like, and that's on a good day.
You know what I'm saying? I think they're giving me more than

Speaker 7 what he really is. So I believe he can do it.

Speaker 7 I believe he, he, but it has to be that right situation.

Speaker 7 It got to be that, that setup because the difficulty of his own personal issue is being able to get the ball out and seeing where it needs to go on time because of his, you know, because of his height.

Speaker 7 You make a good, you make a really good point. And especially when they're like, even with looking at the always going right to the right, Dylan Gabriel, not the tallest guy.

Speaker 7 can't really see over the line. And even with Kyler Murray, like you said,

Speaker 7 it's science. If you got six, five linemen standing in front of you, you can't see.
You know what I'm saying? So, sometimes you might have to slide to the side, angles, and throws.

Speaker 7 So, tall being able to be a taller quarterback and him saying that too, like, man, some throws I can't see. I'm like, damn,

Speaker 7 oh, I don't know if you put that means you may, yeah, anticipation got to be up a little bit. Like, you might have blindly knowing where the routes are coming, but if you can't see, you can't see.

Speaker 7 I can't let, I can't, yeah, you can't let that ball go not knowing exactly where it's going or if that person is is completely open because I can't see the full view of where I'm throwing it to.

Speaker 7 Doug Fluty, he

Speaker 7 just, I don't know how he did it, dude. I don't know.
Maybe they were shorter back then. I don't know.

Speaker 7 I think Doug Fluty had a lot of

Speaker 7 interception too, though.

Speaker 7 Hey, look, I

Speaker 7 say and ask him. I say, bud, did you get fine, my G? He said, not yet.
Last time I'm saying,

Speaker 7 hey, I hope he don't get fired. Listen, I'm hoping he don't get fired either.
But he's looking at that too, and they keep putting it up. And he's like, yo, man, just put that down.

Speaker 7 Listen, that's why I'm talking about that. It's like

Speaker 7 42 for the Steelers. What's his name?

Speaker 7 Oh, Pew.

Speaker 7 When he did that scoop dump and everything

Speaker 7 on Instagram, NFL now, NFL. NFL this, NFL, that.
Your Instagrams are like, yo, this is fully legal. So Roger, when you go find him, okay, it is.
If you find him,

Speaker 7 you might want to talk to him

Speaker 7 posting all your social media. Hey, take a screenshot of it right now before they take it down.
I know them dirt balls are

Speaker 7 here.

Speaker 7 Hopefully, he'll go five Pierre is my that's what they did to me. They sold the picture and all that.

Speaker 7 As soon as I started saying, Y'all finding me, and you selling the picture, they took the picture down and canceled doing all that.

Speaker 7 The mascot joint, right?

Speaker 7 You dirt balls

Speaker 7 exploded, Yeah, you dirt balls.

Speaker 7 Hey, man, they said that boy Gronk gonna sign him a one-day contract so he could retire with the Patriots, bro.

Speaker 7 Yes, deservingly so.

Speaker 7 Did you sign your one-day contract to retire with Browns?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I did. Dude, you retired.
Yes, like you, you a Brown. Everybody knows you as a Brown.
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 Hey, man, I had to go back, though, man, and make it official like a wrestle. And I respect, I think, Gron, that's a good thing, bro.
Go back back there. Patriots was his spot.

Speaker 7 He won crazy chips there. That's crazy.

Speaker 7 He won crazy chips there.

Speaker 7 Patriots was where his thing was.

Speaker 7 He'll go in the hall as a Patriot. But

Speaker 7 when

Speaker 7 you ask Gronk who he rooting for when the Patriots play Tampa Bay, Grant's. Oh,

Speaker 7 see, look, look, look, look. It's not even close to how much

Speaker 7 Gronk only spent. How many years did Gronk spend in Tampa, Debo?

Speaker 7 About four years.

Speaker 7 How many years did he spend in New England? About eight, nine, ten. Come on, man.
That's more than

Speaker 7 like. How many years did you spend in Cleveland,

Speaker 7 Joe?

Speaker 7 Five. How many years did you spend in Cleveland, Joe?

Speaker 7 Seven. That's a lie, Joe.

Speaker 7 That's exactly the perfect truth, Debo. And you're crazy if you don't understand.
I did 12 years in the NFL, seven for Clay. Oh, so you're going in as a Stiller?

Speaker 7 In the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 7 Huh?

Speaker 7 Huh? What did you say? I couldn't hear you. No.

Speaker 7 How can you just say no?

Speaker 7 Because, bro, my Stillers, my Stillers, I went to two Pro Bowls when I was with the Browns. I only went to one when I was a Stiller.
I had 19 picks when I was with the Browns. I only had

Speaker 7 nine or nine when I was with the Stillers. So my career was better there, too.
That's why. You know what I'm saying? Okay.
But so you can't, but you can't pick who you want to win, but you go in.

Speaker 7 Yo, mutual your words. Listen, no, listen, listen, listen, listen.
Your words say one thing, but when people's words

Speaker 7 don't align with their actions, it's called bullshit.

Speaker 7 What part of my words don't align? You're going in as a Brown, but yet you want to say you have no loyalty to either one. You want to see both do well.
That's

Speaker 7 your actions show me you're a Brown. You know what, Joe? I ain't going to lie to you.

Speaker 7 I don't want to say this,

Speaker 7 but sometimes I just don't feel the fury when we lose that I feel

Speaker 7 from you when the Browns lose. Maybe it's just because because I'm so happy that the Browns lost.
I don't know. That's what I, that's what it is.
That's exactly what it is.

Speaker 7 You're happy when I'm sad. And when you're mad, I'm also with you, but like, you just don't feel that

Speaker 7 Joe.

Speaker 7 How you not on my level of it, but you

Speaker 7 let me tell you, let me tell you why, Debo, because I'm a what you know what I do. I don't get too up and too down.
I'm more even killed than you.

Speaker 7 you get real mad and real glad you guys stay more even killed debo you know what i'm saying

Speaker 7 like they gonna be straight that's why i don't have that mass mad

Speaker 7 come with that again they're gonna be straight i don't want to hear that hell you hate that's what piss you off

Speaker 7 it's just gonna happen they're gonna be straight hell out what the hell you mean they just gonna be straight

Speaker 7 cuz man

Speaker 7 man

Speaker 7 well who's your defensive player of the week? Then

Speaker 7 my defensive player of the week, what's my man's name? Number nine for the New York Jets. He had about a four-piece on the Branders for the sack.

Speaker 7 McDonald's.

Speaker 7 I think he went on here and tied a franchise record on you, boys.

Speaker 7 For three single sacks in a game as a Jet.

Speaker 7 He was hooping. And my man is like this.
And he has

Speaker 7 245.

Speaker 7 He wasn't.

Speaker 7 I don't know how you get your player of the week to somebody to lose. But go ahead.
I understand. I did too.
So I was with you on that.

Speaker 7 That's the same way they gave the MVP to the losing team in the NBA Finals one time. I forgot what his name was.
Lost the ship. Won the MVP.

Speaker 7 Bruh. Bro, I'm definitely going to have to look that up.
That sounds crazy. I'm going to go with you.
I'm going to go with you there on the defensive player of the week.

Speaker 7 I'm with you there on that. You know what I'm saying? Man,

Speaker 7 man did what he had to do, man. You know what I'm saying? He did.
And he won the game. Yes.
He won the game. You play to win.

Speaker 7 You win the game. You understand?

Speaker 7 Hey, matter of fact, man. Hey, did you see that thing that was said, man? The dude from

Speaker 7 Troy, Troy, up there, man. He went on here and robbed the gas station, bro, up there in Michigan, dude.

Speaker 7 See, he got a chair. Hey, man, look at, hold up.
Got to be more careful. Hey, bro, listen.
I'm going to tell you the truth. What do you think happened? Debo, you know, I'm going to let you go.

Speaker 7 Cut your camera off.

Speaker 7 I'm going to let you go.

Speaker 7 You're going to let me go.

Speaker 7 You tell me

Speaker 7 what do you think happened here?

Speaker 7 Why do you think this whole situation happened? Man, pulled it. the 8k-47

Speaker 7 robbed the store

Speaker 7 and took off

Speaker 7 what do you think happened joe

Speaker 7 what led him

Speaker 7 to do something

Speaker 7 so darn dastardly

Speaker 7 i don't know the ak-47 robbing that the

Speaker 7 i i thought he robbed the i thought he robbed the barbershop no i would because

Speaker 7 he robbed the gas station server

Speaker 7 yeah i don't know debo just give me what you think joe just give me something come on joe you got to have an imagination You got to have something.

Speaker 7 What would you comment on this, Joe? What would you rob a gas station for the AK-47?

Speaker 7 He had a bad day. He had a really bad day, Debo.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 What do you think?

Speaker 7 Because my fans

Speaker 7 push back. So ridiculous.
As you look at that.

Speaker 7 Where is it right here? Where is it over here?

Speaker 7 As you look at that over here,

Speaker 7 okay, because it's opposite mirror on the screen. As you look at that,

Speaker 7 I'm going to tell y'all what happened.

Speaker 7 That

Speaker 7 is a fresh cut.

Speaker 7 Okay?

Speaker 7 Listen.

Speaker 7 You can tell by all the lines on it, that is a fresh cut. Now,

Speaker 7 this is a booking picture, right?

Speaker 7 He did not

Speaker 7 go. This is a smug shot.
He did not go and get a fresh cut before they came to arrest him.

Speaker 7 They pushed that man. Bro, I've never seen anybody get they.
Listen, Joe. Listen, Joe.
I'm trying to tell you what happened, Joe. Go ahead.
Listen, go ahead. So,

Speaker 7 with that being the case,

Speaker 7 this is what I think happened. Okay.

Speaker 7 My nigga went in there to the barbershop.

Speaker 7 Yeah. Got fresh and clean.

Speaker 7 You know, after you get your hair cut, you feeling a certain way about yourself.

Speaker 7 You're feeling real good.

Speaker 7 The man goes into the gas station. He got his walk, his talk.

Speaker 7 He goes to

Speaker 7 do something, maybe get something, do something. Cashier looks over

Speaker 7 and goes,

Speaker 7 dude.

Speaker 7 And then the cashier said, I'm going to see you around like this.

Speaker 7 My dude said, oh, no, you won't.

Speaker 7 He went to the scene

Speaker 7 and he got the AK-47.

Speaker 7 He ain't even want to rob the place. He just wanted some respect.

Speaker 7 Okay.

Speaker 7 He thought he had it going.

Speaker 7 He done found out that he didn't. He went in there and just to add a little insult.

Speaker 7 He wanted to just scare him. He said, hey, give me the money too.
Okay.

Speaker 7 And then he ran up out of there. Okay.
That was strictly

Speaker 7 on

Speaker 7 the haircut. That was it, bro.

Speaker 7 Did he make, but this is what I'm saying, Debo. How to, how did he make it out of the barbershop? Did he not look at the barbers? Talking about he asked for that.
He thought it was it.

Speaker 7 They gassing him up in the barbershop talking about that's clean, bro. Look at Stephen A, man.
He said that's clean too. Stephen A, my guy.
Let me.

Speaker 7 Let me tell you this, Debo.

Speaker 7 In no world,

Speaker 7 all that light skin spots on his head, that's all was covered with hair before. They pushed this man back so far.
There's no way the front middle part is that.

Speaker 7 I'm trying to tell you, he's not leaving the barbershop. If they pushed him back that bad and he got the AK in the car, because everybody in there got to get laid down.
Okay?

Speaker 7 Everybody in the barbershop, they need to go check the barbershop. Everybody

Speaker 7 must all be. Whatever barbershop this man go to, don't y'all show up there.
Listen, he asked for this, Joe. they, that, this was not no accident, dude.
He asked for this, man.

Speaker 7 Okay, I'm trying to tell you. I'm trying to

Speaker 7 listen, Joe. Look, I got a bald head, Joe.
Okay,

Speaker 7 you know why I got a bald head, Joe?

Speaker 7 Because my top is glass

Speaker 7 and I got a sunroof all the way in the back.

Speaker 7 Okay,

Speaker 7 yeah, top is

Speaker 7 my sunroof right here in the back. If I did that, I deserve everything I got coming.

Speaker 7 Debo, but that's why he needs to just let it go. He needs to go ball.
I'm trying to tell y'all,

Speaker 7 officers, the law, man, done took enough of a beating.

Speaker 7 Y'all go on here and let him on out, man.

Speaker 7 He got his head.

Speaker 7 Hey, man, don't be doing all that because you got a hairline. Make sure my top ain't falling off, Debo.
Got it. Put your hood back on, man.
You want to wear a hood and all that.

Speaker 7 Put your hood back on, man. Well, man, hold on, man.
Make sure my top, man.

Speaker 7 He's had my, it made me scared about make sure my top. yeah that's what happened bro

Speaker 7 man

Speaker 7 i feel sorry yeah for sure for sure let it hey let him on out man i took enough of a beat all right come on listen here man we really appreciate y'all being here with us man we're gonna be back here again on friday and we do that good yes sir's they ball Joe.

Speaker 7 Yes, sir. Hey guys, man, make sure y'all like, subscribe, Debo, and Joe.
We appreciate you guys watching.

Speaker 7 Let's get it. I will see you on Friday.

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