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Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson react to the New York Jets beating the Cleveland Browns, the Indianapolis Colts beat the Atlanta Falcons overseas, and the Los Angeles Rams beat the San Francisco 49ers and Matthew Stafford makes his case for the MVP and much more!
0:00 - Jets beat Browns
13:30 - Colts beat Falcons
26:20 - Rams beat 49ers
32:26- Patriots beat the Buccaneers
36:00 - Bears beat Giants
43:05 - Seahawks beat Cardinals
45:50 - Texans beat Jags
54:42 - Saints beat Panthers
57:53 - Play or Fade with PrizePicks
1:01:06 - Q & Ayyyy
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Speaker 2 The Browns lose to the Jets by the score of 27 to 20. Browns coach Kevin Stefanski isn't ready to make a change at quarterback just yet.
Speaker 2 When asked by reporters if he planned to stick with rookie Dylan Gabriel as the team starting quarterback, Stefanski asserted Gabriel will remain at the helm.
Speaker 2 After the loss to the Jets, Gabriel has thrown 869 yards, seven touchdowns, to an interception in his rookie season.
Speaker 2 He led Cleveland to just one win with the game on October 19th against the Dolphins, and they are now 2-7 on the year. Ocho,
Speaker 2 I just don't know how you're going to win games checking the ball down. I just don't know.
Speaker 12 I told you before.
Speaker 12
Listen, I love Dylan Gabriel. I love what he was able to do with Oregon.
But against in the NFL, if you're not able to throw inside of the hashes, inside of the, I mean, outside of the numbers,
Speaker 12 if you can't make those throws like normal quarterbacks can do,
Speaker 12
you're not going to win games checking the ball down. You're just not.
Unless you have elite superior talent around you, you're not going to be able to do it. You're not going to be able to do it.
Speaker 12 You're just not. I mean, dude, he was, what, 17 for 32, 167.
Speaker 12 He had two T D's today.
Speaker 12 And for the Browns to have success, the running game has to be on.
Speaker 12 For the Browns to have success, the running game has to be slap-ass on. It just has to, because that's the only way you're going to be able to fool teams
Speaker 12 is with play action, low RPO, and stuff like that. But just, I,
Speaker 12 at this point, I don't know what Stefan is going to do. I think he's going to continue to die on this hill because they truly do not want Shador to get in there and start.
Speaker 2 You lose a game game in which the opposing quarterback goes 6-4-11,
Speaker 2 54 yards,
Speaker 2 a touchdown, and an interception.
Speaker 2 So you lose a game in which the opposing team did not have 200 yards of total offense.
Speaker 12 It's the NFL too now.
Speaker 12 Just mind you,
Speaker 2 it's the NFL.
Speaker 2 They didn't have
Speaker 2
170 yards of total offense, and you lost. Yes, your special teams let you down.
You gave up a kick return for a touchdown, and you gave up
Speaker 2 a punt return for a touchdown. But this is not the first time that Justin has thrown for less than 100 yards.
Speaker 12 He did early, early in the season.
Speaker 2 Ocho, let's be all the way to the bottom.
Speaker 12 Wait, wait, take your time now.
Speaker 2 I just don't see it ever working for Justin Fields.
Speaker 12 You know, I have a question.
Speaker 12 Yes. Can we play Devil's Advocate and think about all the quarterbacks that were there?
Speaker 12
And it didn't work for them. But obviously, they went somewhere else to the right situation and it worked.
I lost Sam Darnold, who was the number three, who's the third pick in the draft?
Speaker 12 Who went to the Jets?
Speaker 12 And for some reason, it just didn't work.
Speaker 2
What you call it was the double two pick of the draft. Wilson.
Zach Wilson.
Speaker 12
Oh, okay. Yeah, bingo.
So maybe, maybe, maybe it's just the Jets organization. They haven't had a good, confident quarterback since Broadway Joe.
Speaker 12 And you told me, you know, you told me Joe wasn't even that good.
Speaker 2
He got more interception than touchdown passing, but that's not here. We're not here to talk about that.
Oh, Joe. Justin Fields had 54 yards passing.
Speaker 2 42 of those yards came on a play.
Speaker 12 Hey,
Speaker 2 so, in other words, if we take that away, he completed five passes for 12 yards.
Speaker 12 That doesn't even sound real, honestly.
Speaker 12 You heard me?
Speaker 2 Even on their worst date, Zach Wilson
Speaker 2 and and and and and
Speaker 2 Sam Darnold didn't didn't look like this
Speaker 12 hey
Speaker 2 man
Speaker 2 I don't know I don't know what's going on maybe maybe so Ocho maybe he got maybe he needs to get out of there and go somewhere else too maybe maybe but it ain't gonna be there it ain't gonna be there but here's the thing Ocho we've seen him up we've seen him in Chicago We've seen him other places.
Speaker 12 Listen,
Speaker 12
he was decent in Pittsburgh now. He was decent in Pitts.
The only thing that happened,
Speaker 12
I think they were 4-2. They were 4-2 when Russell Wilson came back, if I'm not mistaken.
He was playing extremely well. He was playing extremely well.
But I was hoping.
Speaker 12 I was hoping finally, Justin Field gets his chance. He gets his team.
Speaker 12 Quarterback number one, you don't have to worry about anything except going out there and playing freely because you're not peeking anybody over your shoulder. Nobody's coming to take your spot.
Speaker 2 This is you, you are. You are.
Speaker 12 This is your team. Now's your opportunity to show people what you can do.
Speaker 12 And it's just, I don't know.
Speaker 2
I don't either. Like I said, hold up.
Excuse me.
Speaker 2 Cleveland.
Speaker 12 Whereas laughing at?
Speaker 2 Oh, Lord. What happened?
Speaker 2 Boy, Cleveland. It's bad, huh?
Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, look, Cleveland ain't trying to win.
Speaker 2
Look, let's stop. We got to stop expecting Shadur because Shadur is going to come in there and try to win.
They don't want to win. They want to get draft picks.
Speaker 2 They're going to redo this thing. I mean, they're going to redo this thing.
Speaker 2 And
Speaker 2 would I be surprised after this season if Miles Garrett said, yeah, yeah, I gave y'all a chance, but y'all not going to do anything. Let me.
Speaker 12 You think they're going to let him go?
Speaker 2 Take them draft picks and rebuild.
Speaker 2 You're going to go 2 and 15 with him.
Speaker 12 You might as well go 2 and 15 without him.
Speaker 2 Might as well try to rebuild for the future and get three first-round draft picks
Speaker 2 and go for it. Start over.
Speaker 12 Yeah, listen,
Speaker 12 I wouldn't mind seeing Miles come on right down the street, man, come on down there in Cincinnati now
Speaker 12 and
Speaker 12 have a good old time with your boy.
Speaker 12 What you think about that?
Speaker 2 What?
Speaker 12 Miles, come on down an hour down the street and come on down here to Cincinnati.
Speaker 2 No.
Speaker 2 First of all, you do know who you start. First of all, the Browns used to be owned by
Speaker 2 the history.
Speaker 12 I know the history. But I'm just, listen, hey, I'm not going to be able to do that.
Speaker 2 That didn't happen.
Speaker 12 I can dream.
Speaker 2 Look, I don't think there's no team in the AFC North that has a chance of getting Miles Gap.
Speaker 12 He's going to the NFC for show.
Speaker 2 I'm doing everything I can to get him out of the AFC. Now, if somebody in the AFC wants to offer three first-round picks in the player, I'm going to have, as long as it's not in my division,
Speaker 2 if it's in the AFC West or the AFC South,
Speaker 2 AFC East, somebody I'm only going to see once every two, three years,
Speaker 2
I can deal with that. But somebody I got to play twice a year, oh, Joe.
Oh, hell no.
Speaker 12
They listen, not that kind of player. Absolutely not.
I don't want none of that.
Speaker 2 Absolutely not.
Speaker 2 Absolutely not. But
Speaker 2 Cleveland's not that good, man.
Speaker 2 I'm happy for AG that he's put together two wins. But
Speaker 2 who's the worst team? Saints?
Speaker 12 I mean,
Speaker 12 it's a toss-up out of the Saints and the Jets, huh?
Speaker 2 But the Saints only got one win, right?
Speaker 2 Yeah, I mean, the Jets are 2-7. Cleveland's 2-7.
Speaker 2 Titans are 1-8. Titans are 1-8.
Speaker 12 I forgot about the Titans.
Speaker 12 The Titans have been sliding right up under the radar.
Speaker 2 They've been sliding. They're going to be bad.
Speaker 2 They're trying to get that number one pick to.
Speaker 12 And get what?
Speaker 2 Something. Trade it and get some more picks.
Speaker 2 I mean, that's what you need to do, OJo.
Speaker 12
Straight in your bopy. One thing about it, boy, it's hell billing the team, boy.
It's hell building the team.
Speaker 2 Unless you get that guy. You see how quickly Cincinnati turned it around once they got Joe?
Speaker 2 You see how Buffalo turned it around once they got Josh Allen?
Speaker 2 Look, the Kansas City was right there because they had Alex Smith. They got Alex Smith to the trade.
Speaker 2 But when they got Patrick Mahomes, what they do?
Speaker 2 Look at the Chargers now that they got Herbert. You see, every year when you got that guy ocho if you got a guy if you get a guy you got a chance because i can feel it if i got the foundation
Speaker 12 you're just going you're going from there that's the easy part but that's the that's the problem and i i don't think that the chat understands or understand how difficult even if you're a fan of football i'm talking about
Speaker 12 you don't understand how difficult it is. I don't know how far and few quarterbacks are.
Speaker 12 Good quarterbacks that you can just, you can lock in and say, you know what, this is my quarterback for the next decade, the next 15 years, and I can bill around him. That is so difficult to find.
Speaker 12 Asta, I don't want to be disrespectful, but okay, you know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 13 Yeah.
Speaker 2 But
Speaker 2 look,
Speaker 2 I ain't even thinking about it.
Speaker 2 I'm just waiting on them when Mary Kay Cabby reported that
Speaker 2 Shador Sanders, when she reported, then
Speaker 2
I worry about it. But I'm not worried about it now because it ain't happening.
They seem to be hell-bent on trying to prove that Dylan Gabriel can play, and he might.
Speaker 2 Maybe we need to give him more time. He is a rookie quarterback, but I just don't think they have enough pieces around him to support him.
Speaker 2 But,
Speaker 2 hey, they believe in him. So
Speaker 2 that's all we got. Damn.
Speaker 12
Hey, I still can't believe that. Outside, if you take away Brees Hall, 40-some-yard run, feels really hit.
Was it raining? Was it raining that game?
Speaker 2 Yeah,
Speaker 2 it started raining.
Speaker 2 I don't,
Speaker 2 it didn't look like it was raining at the beginning of the game, but as it got later, it, you know, it started coming down.
Speaker 12 Damn, I'm he only had 12, 12 yards?
Speaker 2 Yeah, if you take away that 42 yards.
Speaker 2 Damn.
Speaker 12 I mean, even with the elements,
Speaker 12 I played in ring games and, you know, had over 100. And
Speaker 12 when you think about it, just operating a simple offense, basic offense.
Speaker 12
I right, I left. I mean, running curl routes, out routes.
I mean, that's 12 yards right there. That's just one play.
Speaker 12
The fact, how do you have something like that and four quarters of play? Again, let me know. We're being cautious.
Don't want to put the, we don't trust the ball in your hands.
Speaker 12 So, therefore, this is what we have to do.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2
God damn. Brees Hall was basically their offense of their 100.
Hold up. They had 40.
So
Speaker 2 that's 42 and 127. That's 169.
Speaker 2 Brees Hall had 125 of the 169 total yards.
Speaker 12 Nah, that's.
Speaker 2 Yeah, I just think Justin Fields needs to go somewhere. Woody Johnson is not.
Speaker 2
It doesn't mean, it doesn't even matter. It doesn't even matter who, who, who plays quarterback.
We've seen far too many.
Speaker 2 The only one that's had a little success for an extended period of time is Chad Pennington, but nobody else. I mean, Boomer, you got to go back to Boomer, had his couple years there in the 90s.
Speaker 2 You got to go back to Kenny O'Brien in the 80s, but it's just like sporadic.
Speaker 2 It's like kind of hit or miss. Vinny came there and had a good year back in,
Speaker 2
what was that? 98. They went to the FC Championship game.
We beat them in Denver. And then I think they had that historic comeback on Monday night.
Remember, they had
Speaker 2
that comeback again. It was against the Dolphins, I think, Ocho.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 But
Speaker 2
it's just not working for no quarterback. And if I'm a quarterback, I just dread going to Dolphins.
Hold on.
Speaker 12
It depends on the quarterback. You have to be him.
You have to be a Lamar Jackson.
Speaker 2 Aaron Rodgers was him. How he looked?
Speaker 12 Oh, yeah. You know what?
Speaker 2 But look where he was.
Speaker 2 So a guy that got four MVPs and is a first-ballot Hall of Famer.
Speaker 2 You know, you're looking at an easy top 10, top five quarterback of all time. How'd he look there?
Speaker 12 You know what? When you put it like that, but this is the thing. How would a prime Aaron Rodgers look? He'd be fine because he can elevate everything around him.
Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah, but you think about what you're saying now. You're talking about
Speaker 2 there ain't probably been 10 quarterbacks in the history of the game better than Aaron Rodgers. So you're talking, what's the likelihood of you possibly getting one of those?
Speaker 12 Not likely.
Speaker 12 Not likely.
Speaker 2 So I don't know what you're saying.
Speaker 2 I don't know if you saw this game this morning, but Jonathan Taylor runs for 244 rush yards, three touchdowns.
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Speaker 2 And the Colts 31-25 victory over the Falcons in Berlin is Taylor's third career 200-yard rushing day.
Speaker 2 Taylor is the fourth player in NFL history to have at least 200 yards rushing and at least three rushing touchdowns in a game twice in his career. He joins Jim Brown, Adrian Peterson,
Speaker 2
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Hey,
Speaker 2 he
Speaker 2 look,
Speaker 2 I
Speaker 2 for me, him, and Matthew Stafford, it's hard for me to overlook Matthew Stafford and what he's doing. He's had three straight games where he throwed at least four touchdowns and zero interceptions.
Speaker 2
That's facts. I don't think he's thrown an interception in the last six games.
And he got 20 touchdowns in the last six games with no picks. With that being said,
Speaker 2 Jonathan Taylor's carrying the song.
Speaker 12 Absolutely. Listen.
Speaker 2 Daniel Jones was doing his best job to get his game away.
Speaker 2 He tried his damnedest.
Speaker 2 And Shane Stein says, You know what? I got this workhorse in the game.
Speaker 2 Man, let me turn around and say, man, let me take the ball at you, damn. You'll hand the ball off the
Speaker 2 JT.
Speaker 12 The goddamn Falcon defense was putting that pressure on Buddy, man. He's putting that pressure.
Speaker 2 They got him seven times, Ocho.
Speaker 12
So obviously, he was a little bit rattled, you know, trying, trying to process. He trying to sit back there and go through his goddamn reads.
He getting hit in the head every goddamn time.
Speaker 2 You know what, Ocho?
Speaker 2 A lot of times is that, look, sacks are going to happen. But if they say, just hold on to the ball,
Speaker 2 you can't, every time they hit you, let the ball go.
Speaker 2 Because
Speaker 2 that's going to happen. And then the interception, bro, I'm like, what you, I give him credit.
Speaker 2 The old Daniel Jones at the Giants, I'm not sure he's going to stand there like he did today.
Speaker 2 But when you got that guy right there that is a threat anytime to hit his head on the goalpost, they got him bottled up. He steps outside.
Speaker 2 Peaced it out.
Speaker 2 I mean, 244 rushing yards. Tack on another 42 yards receiving, Ocho.
Speaker 2 The man had damn near 270 yards.
Speaker 2 Tyler Warren.
Speaker 2 I love this kid. Look, and this is not a knock on Lovelace.
Speaker 2 I think that's
Speaker 2
the tight end in Chicago. Because I think they took him.
Is it Lovelace or Loveland?
Speaker 2 Lovely.
Speaker 2 Loveland.
Speaker 2 But I like the Warren Kid. He's nice.
Speaker 2 He is sensational.
Speaker 2 He's a goal-getter.
Speaker 2
I love his game. Watching him at Penn State.
I say, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2 He's the real deal.
Speaker 2 I love his game.
Speaker 2 JT's over 1,100 yards, 1,139 rush yards, and 10 games. So he got seven games to go.
Speaker 12 Eight, huh?
Speaker 2
Oh, no, no, they got 10. They already played 10.
They got 17 games.
Speaker 2 10. Yeah,
Speaker 2 they haven't had their bye week yet, I don't think.
Speaker 2 So that's why they got 10, and the Falcons have only played three. I mean, only played nine.
Speaker 12 Let me see. Move on.
Speaker 2 But
Speaker 2 these tight ends, man, they just, the tight ends, Ocho, they just got more tight ends to do it.
Speaker 2
They just got more. They were just back in the 80s, and you have one or two.
You had Ozzie and Kellen. And then in the 90s,
Speaker 2 you had
Speaker 2
Jay Novichek for a couple of years. And then Ben Coles and myself.
You had Star. I know, I don't know.
I know the Patriots fans, you guys will remember Starbuck and Marvin Cook.
Speaker 2 But for the most part, it was always like one or two. Maybe three on the high end.
Speaker 2 Now you got McBride. Now you got
Speaker 2 Hawkinson. Now you got
Speaker 2 La Porta. Now you got this kid.
Speaker 2 Warren. You got
Speaker 2 Loveland.
Speaker 2 You got just so many guys.
Speaker 2
You got, you know, you got a Mark Andrews. You got a Travis Kelsey.
You got a Ronde Gaso Miseka. I mean, you just got so many guys, Ocho.
You got a Brock Bowers.
Speaker 2 You had Kraft that ended up tearing his knee for the Green Bay Packers. You have so many guys now that can do it
Speaker 2
that it doesn't even seem special anymore. It seems special when there's only a handful of guys doing it.
Now you got a bunch of these guys can do it.
Speaker 2 But, man, he was, man, he was, I was like, damn.
Speaker 2 But he's definitely in the MVP discussion.
Speaker 12 Taylor.
Speaker 12 Jonathan, John, you talked about Jonathan Diddy?
Speaker 2 How many yards did,
Speaker 2 can you figure out how many yards Saquon had at this point last year, 10 games into the season?
Speaker 2 So, because he damn sure got to be on pace for 2,000.
Speaker 12 Yeah, he should be absolutely. If
Speaker 2 we got
Speaker 2 hold on, in 10 games, he has 1139, so he's averaging
Speaker 2 like 113 yards a game. So, 113 times seven, what would that give him?
Speaker 2 Would that give him that give him 2,000?
Speaker 2 Yeah, we forgot about Kittle.
Speaker 12 I said it.
Speaker 12 Yeah, I said it. Okay.
Speaker 2 Hell, I mean, we're going to talk about the Rams in a minute. They threw a touchdown.
Speaker 2 Every tight end for the Rams caught a touchdown, but me. Hell, I was like, call my old ass out of retirement and throw me one.
Speaker 2 Damn, 49ers. Y'all won't cover anybody's tight end? Pinch them?
Speaker 12 Something.
Speaker 2 Yeah, I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2
they were giving a touchdown like Oprah gave our cars that time. You get a car, you'll get a touchdown.
You get a touchdown.
Speaker 2 But Taylor, man, he is.
Speaker 12 He's balling
Speaker 2 how much is off Jonathan Taylor I think Jonathan Taylor has 1139 yards
Speaker 2 wow
Speaker 2 so he's two yard he's two yards ahead of what Saquon was at the same time last year
Speaker 2 but he got way more touchdowns than Saquon had I think this I think he got like 15 touchdowns
Speaker 2 yeah
Speaker 2 He got a chance to get LT's right.
Speaker 2 Yeah. No,
Speaker 2 so if he averages, he's got 15.
Speaker 2
He can get 25. I mean, you get 25.
They're going to seriously, seriously give this guy. If he gets 2,000 yards and say 25,
Speaker 2 the 30 touchdowns, he's going to be MVP.
Speaker 12 That is a possibility. It would have to be a quarterback to come on and just have a crazy surge the last eight weeks.
Speaker 12 They would have to have a crazy surge. And if they did.
Speaker 2 Because what go ahead, Ocho, what are you saying?
Speaker 12 If there is one,
Speaker 12 I would say it would probably be Matt Stafford, especially if they keep winning.
Speaker 2 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 Yeah, Stafford, Stafford, definitely. Stafford, Stafford, Drake May.
Speaker 12 But Drake May balling up.
Speaker 12 But Drake may have balling. He's wheeling and dealing in New England, boy.
Speaker 2 Wow.
Speaker 2 Jonathan Taylor has two more yards on eight fewer carries than what Saquon had at the same time last year, but he has seven more touchdowns.
Speaker 12 Crazy.
Speaker 2 So, and we know what we're thinking about Saquon at this point in time.
Speaker 2
And the thing is, you can't stack the line because they got a combat quarterback and they got receivers that can go get the football. You got a Tyler Warren.
You got a Pierce.
Speaker 2 You got a Michael Pittman Jr. You got Downs.
Speaker 2
So you got guys. You can't just play eight in the box.
You really trying to leave these guys one-on-one outside? No, no, no, no. No.
Speaker 12 No, not at all.
Speaker 2 So.
Speaker 12 Hey, the funny thing about it is when you watch film, you see Taylor have games like he had last week. Hell, we're in week 10.
Speaker 12
You already know where the ball is going, and he's still getting off and do what he wants to do. And I think there is a healthy balance.
Obviously, Daniel Jones was a little shaky today.
Speaker 12 He was a little shaky last, you know, last week. But outside of that, since week one, he's been really good throwing the ball through the air.
Speaker 12 He's been really good at it. So
Speaker 12 there's a healthy balance that they do have despite Jonathan Taylor having an impeccable season thus far.
Speaker 12 teams are going to prove, all right, you're going to have to beat us through the hair.
Speaker 2 We're not allowing you to run the ball.
Speaker 12 If we have to run a goddamn 4-6 bear defense,
Speaker 12 you're going to throw that goddamn ball.
Speaker 2 Yeah, well, that's what's going to happen. But here's the thing: the thing that concerns me is that their tackle's been getting their ass kicked.
Speaker 2 Their tackles have been getting their ass.
Speaker 12 Who the hell is that goddamn left tackle?
Speaker 2 Hell the right one,
Speaker 2 Smith. I forget the uh the left tackle name um
Speaker 12 but but both of them not just the left one the right one too both of them had got their ass handed to them today
Speaker 12 yeah
Speaker 2 uh oh this is indie's schedule next week oh okay here's indie schedule at chiefs texas at home at jags at seahawks 49ers at home jags at home at texas hey that that chiefs game they need to be they need to be able to move that to a prime time game, depending on what time it is.
Speaker 2 It's the morning game.
Speaker 2 It's a 1 a.m. game.
Speaker 12 Bam.
Speaker 12 That's one supposed to be 4:30.
Speaker 2 I'm looking. They got
Speaker 2 the Colts play the 49ers.
Speaker 2 That's a Monday night game.
Speaker 2 Yeah. Chiefs play the Broncos next week.
Speaker 12 Oh, y'all finna get mollywalked.
Speaker 12 Hey, but y'all finna get mollywalked, boy.
Speaker 2 No, but
Speaker 2 yeah.
Speaker 2 Ain't happening.
Speaker 2 But the Colts moved to 8-2.
Speaker 2 Number one seed in the AFC currently.
Speaker 2 Thanks to a 31-25 overtime victory over the Atlanta Falcons. Ocho, we got to talk about Michael Penix Jr.
Speaker 2 What you thinking, Ocho?
Speaker 2
12 or 28. Now, he had a couple of yards.
He did.
Speaker 13 But damn.
Speaker 12 Drake London back in the founder end zone again today.
Speaker 12 You're not liking what you're seeing from young.
Speaker 12
Hold on. I would just...
I would just own that game. Okay, there it is.
Speaker 12 I mean,
Speaker 2 I mean, you think about the guys that, okay, obviously,
Speaker 2
Kayla Williams, playing, we're going to talk to him about him in a minute, playing extremely well. Drake May, playing extremely well.
He's in MVP discussion.
Speaker 2
Jayden Daniels, last year, offensive rookie of the year, playing well. Got to get healthy, got to be able to stay healthy.
Bo Nicks,
Speaker 2 having to be playing on a great team, especially defensively.
Speaker 2 Who else was who? What other quarterback was taking?
Speaker 2 J.J. McCarthy.
Speaker 2 I mean, Ocho, 12 of 28.
Speaker 12 177. He had a TD.
Speaker 12 The Drake.
Speaker 12 I mean.
Speaker 2 I mean, they ran the ball 29 times for
Speaker 2 140 yards.
Speaker 12 Bijan, yeah.
Speaker 2
Drake London cooked. Kyle Piss, I think he can get more involved.
Mooney had one. He dropped it.
Speaker 12 Bijan had 17 for 84.
Speaker 2
Yeah, I mean, look at the numbers. I mean, look at the numbers.
They're averaging over four yards of carry.
Speaker 2 They're averaging five, damn near five yards of carry.
Speaker 2 We'll revisit this in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 12 They were 0 for 8 on third down.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 12 That ain't going to cut it.
Speaker 2 No.
Speaker 2 I mean
Speaker 2 Mooney had one catch or eight targets. Damn.
Speaker 2 Ojo, Matthew Stafford.
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Speaker 2 Continues to make a case for the MVP. The Rams are now 7-2, tied for the best record in the NFC with just a half a game behind the NFL's best record.
Speaker 2 Stafford against the 49ers was 24-36, 280 passing yards, four touchdowns. Stafford is the first quarterback in NFL history with four passing touchdowns, zero interceptions, and three straight games.
Speaker 2 On the season, Stafford leads the NFL in passing touchdowns 25. And his touchdown to interception ratio, what does he have, one interception now?
Speaker 2
It's also the best of the league. Stafford is number one in MVP award.
Also played in the era with elites like Tom Brady, Peyton Manning, and Aaron Rodgers.
Speaker 2 Only season he's ever received an MVP vote was 2023 when he finished eighth of 10 players.
Speaker 2 And one year, he should have got some MVP votes because he threw for 5,000 yards. Huh? Three.
Speaker 2 So he got 25 touchdowns, Ojo, two interceptions.
Speaker 12 Hey, them Aaron Rodgers numbers, boy.
Speaker 2 Thank you.
Speaker 12 Hey, them Aaron Rodgers numbers. I know Jonathan Taylor is playing well right now, but if he continues to put these type of numbers up,
Speaker 12 well, you know where that MVP is going. It's going to be right down there in LA.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 12 Hey, this game was over early.
Speaker 12 This game was over early. It was 21-zip with 13 minutes left in the second quarter.
Speaker 12 If you're playing Madden, the game is over. You got to pass the sticks.
Speaker 12 It was over.
Speaker 2
The turnovers killed him. I mean, Jawan Jennings or Mac Jones.
Mac Jones was 33 of 39, 319, three touchdowns, one pick.
Speaker 2 This is not hindsight.
Speaker 2 I said the 49ers should have stayed exactly where they are and took Mac Jones.
Speaker 2 He said, stay right where you are and take Mac Jones. You don't have to give up that draft capital.
Speaker 2 But
Speaker 2 that's a story to be told another day in time.
Speaker 2
George Kittle, nine catches, 84 yards, a touchdown. Jawan Jennings, six catches, 71 yards, a touchdown.
Kristen McCaffrey had eight catches, 66 yards.
Speaker 2 They didn't run the ball really well today.
Speaker 2 The Rams kind of got after them. Look, in the run game.
Speaker 2 But Matthew Stafford's dealing. When you got Puka and you got Devontae
Speaker 2 still routing people up.
Speaker 2 Abel cooking.
Speaker 2 Parkinson, tight end, touchdown.
Speaker 2 Allen, touchdown.
Speaker 2 They look, they're good. The Rams are good.
Speaker 2 And I tweeted, though, Joe, are we sure? Are we certain
Speaker 2 the Rams and the Seahawks aren't the the best two teams in football? Are we certain that's not the case?
Speaker 2 Because
Speaker 2 we saw Seattle Monday night.
Speaker 2
No, we saw them. Was it Sunday night when they beat the brakes off the commanders? And we know that.
And then they turn around and do it.
Speaker 2 I mean, they have 35 and one half and 35 and I mean, 73 points and two halves.
Speaker 12 Is there anyone
Speaker 12 that would want to argue the fact that they're not the two best teams regardless of the AFC or NFC? I mean, who would argue that fact?
Speaker 2 People might say the Patriots. Somebody still might believe the Lions.
Speaker 12 You know, you know,
Speaker 2 but based on what I've seen, the consistency-wise,
Speaker 2 I think for me, those are
Speaker 2 I think those are the two best teams for me. But Stafford, but for me,
Speaker 2 you know, Drake May, and I think Drake May is playing unbelievable,
Speaker 2 but his numbers aren't comparable. I mean, you go look at Stafford, he's on place to throw,
Speaker 2
so he has eight games to go. So he's on pace to throw 50 touchdowns with four interceptions.
How many yards does he have? So he's going to be over four thousand, over 4,500 yards.
Speaker 2 Unless somebody's comparable to that, they're not taking that award for. Now, if Jonathan Taylor saves gold's rush for 2,100 yards and 25 touchdowns, now I think it's going to be a very close race.
Speaker 12
It's going to be a conversation, Uncle. But you know how the NFL is.
You know how it is. I think it would have to be an historical, I'm talking about historical numbers
Speaker 12 for them to take it away from a quarterback.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2 and the thing is, I mean, uh, uh, and because that he's he's putting these numbers out here, because remember, OJo, the game against Jacksonville, he had five touchdowns and didn't have 200 yards passing,
Speaker 2 so he's putting he's putting up these numbers, and he's not having to do a whole lot late. They're just running the football Kyron Williams Corbin, you know, 30 carries, a buck 26,
Speaker 2 nice, smooth, easy.
Speaker 2 But uh, no, Matthew Stafford looks good. He's looking as good as at any point in time he's ever looked.
Speaker 2
Rams are going to be tough. I can't wait.
When do the Rams play Seattle again?
Speaker 12 Rams in Seattle.
Speaker 12 Next week?
Speaker 2 Oh, the Rams play Seattle next week, Ocho. Is that a Fox game?
Speaker 12 It gotta be. What do you mean again? They play them two more times.
Speaker 2
They haven't played them. That's what I'm saying.
I'm asking when do they play them? So next week, and then in LA, and then
Speaker 2
December in Seattle. That's gonna be a good game.
Next week is gonna be a game. Is it a Sunday? Is it a Sunday night? Is it a Monday?
Speaker 12 Nine o'clock?
Speaker 2
Afternoon, late game. Okay, both days.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 And then on Prime, so Thursday in mid-December.
Speaker 2 No, I like to see these guys full fully healthy. Oh, Joe, the Buccaneers lose to the Patriots by the score of 28-23.
Speaker 2 Traybion Henderson.
Speaker 2 Hey, that Joe Rudder said, hey, can I score? Y'all want me to score? What y'all want me to do?
Speaker 12 I've never seen anybody check with the coaches on the sideline running full speed to make sure it was okay.
Speaker 12 But he looking at his, it ain't his sideline right right here he's looking way over there yeah yeah because most of the time um you know if they want you to go down everybody be doing this
Speaker 2 yeah but he you're like nah don't he saw the closest uh drake may was 16 of 31 272 touchdowns one interception uh trebeon henderson 14 carries a buck 47
Speaker 2 and two long touchdowns he had one his longer 69 that was the one he was looking see what was really going on he took another one to the house macros Oh, barefoot Mac.
Speaker 2 Six catches. Abuko four.
Speaker 2
Williams, one catch, 72 yards. House call.
Stephon Diggs.
Speaker 2
I think it was fourth down. He ended up catching the touchdown.
Five catches, 46 yards,
Speaker 2 and a touchdown.
Speaker 2
Ameka Abuka, six catches, 115. Touchdown.
K-Dotton, 9 for 82. Terris Johnson, 4 for 42, 2 touchdowns.
Speaker 2 They ran the ball decent, 21 carries, a buck, 13. Baker played exceptionally well again, 28, 43, 273, three touchdowns.
Speaker 12 Yeah, Drake.
Speaker 2 What does Drake made numbers look like?
Speaker 2
Now you understand why Mr. Kraft had to make a decision.
Yes, Gerard Mayo, I got the job, but this guy's just too good.
Speaker 2 I don't want anybody else to get him.
Speaker 2 You got to make hard decisions sometimes.
Speaker 12 Listen, if I was rapper,
Speaker 12
I would have hoped. I'm not sure how that relationship is.
I would have made sure to have Mayo part of that team
Speaker 12 at part of the coach's staff.
Speaker 12 He's been sacked a fucked time.
Speaker 2
Well, hell, he got sacked. We know he got sacked five at least five times in the Cleveland game because Miles Garrett got him all five, got him five times.
He's been sacked 34 times.
Speaker 2 Ooh, that's a lot.
Speaker 2 In 10 games, he's been sacked 34 times. Shoot.
Speaker 2 So he's on pace to get sacked over 60.
Speaker 2 We got 35 included today. So,
Speaker 2 man, he's on pace to get sacked 60 plus times.
Speaker 12 Listen, what's David Carr's record of getting sacked?
Speaker 2 76.
Speaker 2 You don't want to be messing with that. They'll break you.
Speaker 2 They'll break you physically and mentally.
Speaker 12 Absolutely. That's a lot of hits, huh?
Speaker 12 That's a lot. It's a lot.
Speaker 12 A lot of wear and tear, especially for a quarterback only in his second year.
Speaker 2 The Bears rally past the Giants for a 24-20 win. The Giants lost another winnable game, dropping to 2-8 this season, and calls for Brian Dayball's job has officially begun.
Speaker 2 Before leaving with concussion, Jackson Dart scored two touchdowns on design runs, becoming the first quarterback in NFL history with at least one rushing touchdowns in five straight games.
Speaker 2 Ocho, by choosing Dart over Russ, it looked like Dayball brought himself some time, but has the momentum started to shift.
Speaker 2 Dayball is going to say, you know what, he's going to say, Ocho?
Speaker 2 When my guy was in there, we had the lead.
Speaker 2 And I don't mean no, look, Ocho.
Speaker 2 We played, we got 20-plus years. We got two decades in the NFL.
Speaker 2 The offense, the defense, the coaching staff don't believe in Russ.
Speaker 2 You saw the momentum shift the moment he came into the game.
Speaker 12 You saw the momentum shift. Everything changes, huh?
Speaker 12 You have two different types of players. Therefore, you got to call the offense two different types of ways, depending on who you have at the helm.
Speaker 12 That's just the way it is.
Speaker 12
Two different dynamics, two different players, two different skill sets. You have to call the game completely different.
The things
Speaker 12 Dark can do,
Speaker 12 Russell Kane.
Speaker 2 Not anymore.
Speaker 12 I mean, yeah, he once was able to move like that and extend plays and
Speaker 12 hocus pocus
Speaker 12 as they call it.
Speaker 12 But he's just not that guy anymore. He's not that guy anymore.
Speaker 2 No.
Speaker 12 That sucks.
Speaker 2
Caleb Williams, 20 of 36, 221 touchdown. They ran the ball 28 times, 471 yards.
Roma Dunze, 10 targets, 6 catches, 86 yards a touchdown. Loveland, four catches, 55 yards.
Speaker 2 Luther Burton, the third, three catches, 51 yards.
Speaker 2 Caleb Williams was
Speaker 2 now you see, understand why they took him with the first big.
Speaker 12 I reminded it myself.
Speaker 2 He uh, I wish he was a little calmer in the pocket. He doesn't feel he's not as comfortable as I would like to see him in the pocket because he can make a lot, he can make throws on the move.
Speaker 2 Uh, but eventually, in order for you to win consistently and win championships, you're going to have to be able to throw the ball from the pocket. Yeah,
Speaker 2 you're going to have to be able to do that. Uh, but Jackson Dart was playing well, 19 of 29, 242.
Speaker 2
No touchdowns, no interception, but he had two rushing touchdowns, and he had six carries for 66 yards. Ocho, I told you this.
Man, I like to see my quarterback.
Speaker 2 I like to see my quarterback run through.
Speaker 12 He got to minimize that. He got to minimize that.
Speaker 12 He's taking too many hits too early.
Speaker 12
You're taking too many hits too early. Listen, I know you want to prove yourself.
You want to show, hey, I'm tough too.
Speaker 12 I'm going to bring it to you. You don't got to do that, man.
Speaker 12
Make a sound, wise business decision. Go ahead and slide.
Go ahead and step out of bounds.
Speaker 12 Don't take nobody on. Enough is enough.
Speaker 12 Enough is enough.
Speaker 12 You're too exciting, and you are the one player. You are the one player offensively that gives the Giants fans hope.
Speaker 12
It gives your coaches hope that we can do something with him at the helm when he's healthy. You can't do nothing sitting on the bench.
You can't.
Speaker 12
He got to protect himself. He got to get out of his own way.
And his coaches have to call plays to protect himself from him.
Speaker 2 Well, they call them design roles.
Speaker 6 My point is that.
Speaker 2 So,
Speaker 2 if you don't care about your quarterback running, I don't care about hitting his ass.
Speaker 2
It's the same thing. Look, it's the same thing that I said about Cam.
If you want to run your quarterback on quarterback power, I'm going to treat him just like you're running back.
Speaker 12 Hey, but this net two, two different, hey, two different situations.
Speaker 12 Jackson Thor ain't built like Cam
Speaker 12 at all.
Speaker 2 Nowhere near.
Speaker 2
And even Cam, you can't take them lick. You can't survive taking them D-tackles, those linebackers, everybody teeing off of.
I don't care how big you are.
Speaker 12 Yeah, them, boy.
Speaker 2 You're not going to survive taking those hits like that. And the thing is, I'm not so sure Jackson Dart's going to be able to come back because they've already gotten fired.
Speaker 2 There have been so many times that he got dinged and they rushed him back into the ball game. Remember last time they fired the Giants, they find Brian.
Speaker 2 I believe this is a situation, Ocho. He might have to miss a game.
Speaker 12 Probably. Probably, especially when Dayball went in that damn tent
Speaker 12 behind him, trying to see when he was coming out to make sure they don't
Speaker 12 talk about last week when he got fine.
Speaker 2
Oh, yeah, a couple of times. Because remember, one time he wanted to call timeout to be able to see.
He's okay.
Speaker 2 Is he okay? I mean, does he have to miss a play, miss
Speaker 2 a snap?
Speaker 12 Now you see how important he is.
Speaker 12 Now you see how important he is for the offense.
Speaker 2 I think they realized how important it was.
Speaker 2
That's why they traded. That's why they did what they did to get it.
He was their guy. They identified him very early on.
That was their guy.
Speaker 2 It seems like a great decision. He's played really well.
Speaker 2 He has an infectious personality.
Speaker 2 The giant fandom love him.
Speaker 2 And if you win those over, you buy yourself some time. And I thought Brian Dayball had bought himself some time with Jackson Dart
Speaker 2 because he's playing well.
Speaker 2 They should have won the game against Denver.
Speaker 2
They should have won the game. They had the Saints.
And then they just started turning the ball over, pick sixes and scooping scores.
Speaker 2 But
Speaker 2 I do think they found their quarterback with Jackson Dark.
Speaker 2 I just
Speaker 2 Gardner Johnson led him into, he had two sacks, too.
Speaker 2 CJ Gardner Johnson, I don't know what it is. He plays well everywhere.
Speaker 12
He's every single wear. I don't understand.
I don't understand what's wrong, what issues they always had with Nephew. But when he on that field, huh?
Speaker 12
Well, he going to give everything you're looking for. Everything.
yeah.
Speaker 2 I mean, he had two sacks.
Speaker 2 Um,
Speaker 2 Monte Sweat had a sack and a half, but I, I, look, the Bears, the Bears are gonna be good. I mean, they're six and three, OJ.
Speaker 2 That's six and three.
Speaker 12 Crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy how everything flip right around. Now,
Speaker 2 yeah, they're six and three.
Speaker 2 Get the right coaching, the Giants remaining schedule.
Speaker 2
Packers at home. Lions on the road.
Patriots on the road. Commanders at home.
Vikings at home. Raiders
Speaker 2 on the road. Cowboys at home.
Speaker 2 It's tough with them, man.
Speaker 2 Oh,
Speaker 2 that's a.
Speaker 2 they play the Patriots, and they play the Patriots on a Monday night.
Speaker 12 That's coming up soon?
Speaker 2 December 1st.
Speaker 2 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 December 1st.
Speaker 2
Oh, Joe. DeMarcus Lawrence has scores two defensive touchdowns on plays that seem so similar to each other.
Same guys. Forced to fumble.
D-Law, Johnny on the spot picks it up.
Speaker 2 But D-Law returned two fumbles for touchdown, became the sixth player in the six-player system at least 1991 with two defensive touchdowns in the first half of a game.
Speaker 2 Seahawks finished with five sacks while playing without injured starters, Julian Love, Josh Joe, Ernest Jones IV, and Jaron Reed.
Speaker 2 They got it, they got out the Jacoby.
Speaker 12 Absolutely.
Speaker 2 They got it.
Speaker 12 Absolutely.
Speaker 2 Ocho,
Speaker 2 me and you talked about this.
Speaker 2 Marvin Harrison Jr. is going to have to start catching the ball.
Speaker 2 It's really that simple.
Speaker 2 It's really that simple, Ocho.
Speaker 2
He's too good. Ocho, he's too good to have those drops like that, man.
He's too good.
Speaker 2 And his dad says the offense is not flowing and so forth and so on. But but hey, Marv, your son got to hold on to the ball, bro.
Speaker 2 He does.
Speaker 2 He does.
Speaker 12 It looks a little inconsistent.
Speaker 12 A little inconsistent.
Speaker 2
Jacoba Brissett was 22 of 42, 258, two touchdowns. Got sacked five times.
How he ended up with numbers like this, I don't know.
Speaker 2 Because, hell, it seemed like every time in the first half, he dropped back to pass.
Speaker 12 McBride had his date. McBride had not.
Speaker 2 McBride, well, McBride, I mean, look, he wanted another tight ends. Nine catches, above 27.
Speaker 2
One touchdown on 13 targets. DeMercado, three for 40 on four catches.
Marvin Harrison Jr., Ocho.
Speaker 2 Three catches, 12 targets.
Speaker 12 Hey, they were trying to get him that rock, bro.
Speaker 12 They were trying to get in that rock.
Speaker 2 If they throw it to you, you can't throw it back at them.
Speaker 2
I mean, we got to be real, Chad. Y'all watch the game.
He drops a lot of passes. He does.
Speaker 2 Hey.
Speaker 12 It was 35-0
Speaker 12 in the second quarter.
Speaker 12
Yes. It was eight minutes left in the second quarter.
It was 35-0. This is the NFL game.
Speaker 12 I mean, when they listen, when Arizona played the Cowboys last week, man, we were hooping and hollering, excited. Oh, they're probably not going to star Callan Murray.
Speaker 12 They felt Jacoby Brissette was the better option going forward.
Speaker 12 He looked good. But you see what happens when you go against a real team with a better defense?
Speaker 12 With a real defense?
Speaker 12 and they coming to get you.
Speaker 12 You got two, maybe two and a half seconds to get that ball out your hands. And that's about it.
Speaker 12 And
Speaker 12 that's Seattle offense.
Speaker 2 They didn't have to do my, but Ocho, Sam Darno was 10 to 12 for 178 yards. Hey.
Speaker 2 This man threw the ball 12 times, Ocho, in the NFL game.
Speaker 2
It won convincingly. It wasn't even that close.
They ran the ball 46 times for 198 yards. Uh, Charboneau had 14 carries for 83 yards.
Kenneth Walker, the third, had 14 for 67.
Speaker 2 But Jackson Smith and Jigba, five for 93 and a tub. Cooper Cup, two for 74.
Speaker 2 That was the damage right there. That was seven for 167 right there.
Speaker 12 Hey, Charmineau reminded me of Robert Smith when he was with the Vikings.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 12 Same running style,
Speaker 12 shirt tucked in, pants high.
Speaker 2 The thing is, Ocho, this game wouldn't have. They might have scored 60 if Sam Donald holds on to the, if
Speaker 2 they don't formal the ball, and then he turned it over.
Speaker 2 This game could have easily been
Speaker 2 50 to 10, 50 something with a 10.
Speaker 12 And the coaches would have been fighting on the field after the game if they ran that score up like that.
Speaker 2 they wasn't running it up much. All they had to do was not turn it over.
Speaker 12 That was a good game. Hey, Seattle looked good, man.
Speaker 12 Both sides of the ball.
Speaker 2
Seattle look good, man. They look good.
Their defense gets after you. And they have, I mean, think about how many starters they had.
Julian Love, starter. Josh Joe, starter.
Speaker 2
Ernest Jones IV, starter. Jaron Reed.
That's four starters. And they had a performance like this today.
Speaker 2 They good.
Speaker 2
They good. They can run it.
They can throw it.
Speaker 2 They can get out the quarterback.
Speaker 2 And now they got Wolf and they got Spoon.
Speaker 12 Spoon nice.
Speaker 2 We'll find out a lot next week because they got the Rails.
Speaker 2 They ain't going to be put to the test because
Speaker 2 you got Devontae and Paul.
Speaker 2 Where they playing at?
Speaker 2 In L.A.?
Speaker 12 Well, let's go to the game.
Speaker 12 I hit stand.
Speaker 12 We get court side.
Speaker 2 I'm good.
Speaker 12 Hey, you don't, well, you don't never want to hang out with me, boy. I tell you, boy, I tell you about.
Speaker 2 No, I don't want to hang out at the game.
Speaker 12 I got to tell you about black folk, boy.
Speaker 12 Y'all be killing me.
Speaker 2 I talked y'all coming down to visit you in the offseason.
Speaker 12 What are we going to wait all the way to the offseason?
Speaker 2 Yeah, we working now.
Speaker 12 Man, you need to learn to live a little bit, man.
Speaker 12 You can come down here right now. We can do the show, you know, like
Speaker 12 in the same house.
Speaker 12
I think the people would love to see that. You know, you know, we don't think they love that.
Side by side.
Speaker 2 And plus,
Speaker 2
I got to take a few trips. I got to do some stuff for some other stuff.
So
Speaker 2 I got to
Speaker 2 save my.
Speaker 2 Oh, Joe, backup quarterback Davis Mills and the Texans overcame a 19-point fourth quarter deficit to stun the Jags.
Speaker 2 It's the second largest comeback in franchise history, only behind the 21-point comeback win over the Chargers in 2013. It's the first time the Jaguars had led by 19 points in a game and lost.
Speaker 2 Before today, they were 53-0 in such games, including the playoffs, and were the only current NFL franchise that had won each such game.
Speaker 2 Man, Trevor Lawrence, man,
Speaker 2 Hey.
Speaker 12 Hey,
Speaker 12 he's the answer, but he had a bad day today, though.
Speaker 2 Yeah, but far too many of these.
Speaker 2 Remember the Rams game? Over there, what were they at? London? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He stunk that one up.
Speaker 12 He stunk it up.
Speaker 2 He just needed a little bit more conjo, 13 or 23, above 58.
Speaker 2 Hey, oh, they barely had, they barely had two. I don't know, no, they had 250 yards passing.
Speaker 12 Hey, that fourth quarter was bad, huh?
Speaker 12 Boy, the Texans outscored the goddamn Jaguars 26-0 in the fourth quarter. One quarter.
Speaker 2 Yeah,
Speaker 2
that's how we did it. You know, we scored 33 against the Texas.
In a quarter?
Speaker 2 33 in the fourth quarter. We were not.
Speaker 12 How many possessions y'all had? Three or four.
Speaker 2 Don't worry about it. Enough to score 33.
Speaker 12 They must have turned the ball over twice.
Speaker 2 I tell you what, I know what we did to the
Speaker 2 Bangles. Who?
Speaker 12 I wasn't playing.
Speaker 2 We the one that got Jake Browning on the bench. Made him trade for Joe Flacco.
Speaker 2 Here's where you lost the game at Jags. Texas was 10 or 15 on third down.
Speaker 12 Hey, super, super duper efficient.
Speaker 12 Super duper efficient. I'm trying.
Speaker 2 They had 69 plays. You had 55 plays.
Speaker 2 They had 11 drives you had, but they averaged six yards per play. You averaged 3.9.
Speaker 12 That's creepy.
Speaker 12 Oh, 26.
Speaker 2 See, like Jags, the Jags
Speaker 2
spent a lot of effort to beat the Chiefs. Remember, they had to go.
Didn't they go to overtime to beat the Raiders last week?
Speaker 12 Man.
Speaker 12 Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 12 Yes, sir. Yeah.
Speaker 12 Just a little bit more consistency. That's it.
Speaker 12 A little bit more consistency.
Speaker 2 Ocho, ocho, ocho.
Speaker 2 I get it, but
Speaker 2
we've been at this for a while now. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 2 We keep saying we need him to be a little bit more consistent, and he ain't being consistent.
Speaker 12 Not at all.
Speaker 12
He's not playing well. He's playing.
He's too up and down. You don't know what Trevor Lawrence you're going to get.
But he got all the talent in the world. He got all the.
Speaker 2
Oh, he can make every throw. He's athletic.
He got all the intangibles. He got a big time off.
Speaker 12 That's exactly what you look for in a quarterback, a franchise quarterback. But you just want to have a strength, be able to put him back-to-back.
Speaker 12 Put him back-to-back-to-back, the back-to-back, the back-to-back. If you're going to have errors, let's minimize them.
Speaker 12 He's having one too many.
Speaker 12 One too many. There's no way a team is supposed to be able to come back
Speaker 12 in a game like this and score 26.
Speaker 12
26. As a quarterback, you're supposed to give me my best chance to win.
Not just win, but at least compete week to week.
Speaker 12 You playing against the backup quarterback?
Speaker 2 But that defense, man,
Speaker 2
they saw that. Hold on, man.
We stopped. We got a touchdown.
And let's hold him again. Let's hold.
Man, hey.
Speaker 2
Anderson Jr. and the guy they got from Minnesota.
What's his name?
Speaker 2 Denil Hunter.
Speaker 2 And that boy nice, boy.
Speaker 12 Hey, they coming to the party. Invitation or no invitation.
Speaker 2 Yeah. Remind you of somebody else you know, huh?
Speaker 2 Old Bronco, O'Brago,
Speaker 2 Benito? Old Bronco Country.
Speaker 2
Obonito, Zach Allen, Cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2 We still ain't got nobody. We ain't got nobody within 10 sacks of us.
Speaker 2 And we don't have it. Hey, we do.
Speaker 12 They might catch you.
Speaker 2 Who? Who?
Speaker 2
They had their buy yet. Okay.
I don't think we had our buy yet either. Well, we played 10 games.
Speaker 12 Y'all defense is real good, though.
Speaker 2 Yeah, yeah. And we didn't even got Pat.
Speaker 2 Once we get Pat back,
Speaker 12 we're really, I'm talking about like really, really, really good.
Speaker 2
Oh, I did. No, I did.
I delegit.
Speaker 2
I delegit. You got it.
You gotta get, you gotta get that offense going. Our office stresses them a lot.
Speaker 12 You gotta get that offense going.
Speaker 2
We definitely got to get the offense going. But that was a good game.
I watched this through its entirety.
Speaker 2 Man, my cable bill is gonna be like $600. All these damn channels I gotta get to watch these games.
Speaker 12 Wait, just use YouTube.
Speaker 2 Rookie NFL Red zone.
Speaker 2 Man,
Speaker 2 no comment. Rookie Tyler Schook threw two touchdowns to earn
Speaker 2 the Saints' first win as they defeat the Panthers 17-7. It marks the eighth time in nine starts this season that Bryce Young was limited to fewer than 200 passing yards.
Speaker 2 Panthers coach Dave Canalis described the loss as frustrating. Yeah.
Speaker 2 You lost to a team that had one win coming into this ball game. And y'all look terrible.
Speaker 12 You know what the NFL is? You see, week to week, ain't no telling what's going to happen.
Speaker 12 If you was a gambling man again, I'm going to say it again.
Speaker 12 If you was a gambling man and understand the game of football, and you was betting, you're betting on the Panthers to win this game.
Speaker 12 You betting on the Panthers to win this game based on how they look this season.
Speaker 12 They've surprised us.
Speaker 12 They surprised y'all. They ain't surprised me because I said this is how they was going to look.
Speaker 12 But today,
Speaker 12 if I had put money down, I would have bet the house on them to win today. The Saints, who've only won one game, ain't no way in hell.
Speaker 12 Ain't no way in hell.
Speaker 2 And they're home. Nah.
Speaker 12 Hey, right, is the reason they say any given Sunday.
Speaker 12 And this is exactly this is a visual representation of exactly what that phrase means.
Speaker 2 Bright's gonna have to get it together, Ocho.
Speaker 12 Would you say he got to get it together?
Speaker 2 He's going to have to get it together.
Speaker 12 Old choir boy.
Speaker 2 I think next year is going to be a make or break for him. I'm not sure if they pick up that option,
Speaker 2 that 50 option.
Speaker 2 I don't think they're going to do that, but next year is going to be huge for him. He's going to have to have
Speaker 2 the best career, best year of his career.
Speaker 12 Yeah.
Speaker 2 And the mere fact
Speaker 2 that he's not about to get no $300 million deal tells you everything you need to know.
Speaker 12 They did on shit.
Speaker 2
But give the Saints credit. Alvin Kamara ran the ball, 22 rushes, 83 yards.
Chris Olave had his best game of the season, five catches of the season.
Speaker 12 You saw that one-hand catch he had?
Speaker 2
Johnson, four catches, 92 yards of a touchdown. Kamara, three catches, 32 yards.
But they played well. They played extremely well.
The defense did a great job of getting after Bryce Young.
Speaker 2
They stimuled Rico, 23 carries for 73 yards total for the Carolina offense. That's not nearly good enough.
That's not nearly good enough.
Speaker 2 It hurt them that they fumbled the football. When he fumbled the football,
Speaker 2 what's the guy from Horn, Jimmy Horn? Jimmy.
Speaker 2 He fumbled the ball and
Speaker 2 that
Speaker 2 won't do it.
Speaker 2 That won't do it.
Speaker 2 Ocho, time for the player Faye presented by prize picks.
Speaker 2 Jalen Hurts, more than 226 combined yards, rushing and passing.
Speaker 12 Tomorrow, Monday night.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 12 Woof.
Speaker 12
Let me see. AJ playing, Saquon playing.
Dequante Smith playing.
Speaker 12 I'm going to say, yeah.
Speaker 12 I'm going to say yeah.
Speaker 12 I know one thing. They better establish that goddamn run.
Speaker 12 They coming.
Speaker 12 Boy, they coming.
Speaker 2
I'm going to agree. I'm going to say yeah too.
Romeo Dobbs, 52.5 receiving yards.
Speaker 12 What you thinking?
Speaker 12 I'm going over that.
Speaker 2 Man, with Mitchell? Yeah.
Speaker 12
And DeGene. Well, listen, they putting Dobbs in positions to make them plays.
He in the slot. He going in motion.
Hey, we're doing everything.
Speaker 2 Okay, how about this here? A.J. Bryan, more than 58 receiving yards.
Speaker 12 I don't even know. I'm going to be honest with you.
Speaker 2 I don't know either because he didn't play the last game, and I don't know how healthy that hamstring is.
Speaker 12 Hey,
Speaker 12 that.
Speaker 2 Romeo, 53 yards. 53 yards, Romeo.
Speaker 2 Romeo, Romeo, wherefore are thy Romeo?
Speaker 12 Okay, I see you.
Speaker 12 I ain't know you was in the Shakespeare.
Speaker 12 Okay.
Speaker 12 You know I played Romeo in the school play.
Speaker 12 Yeah.
Speaker 2 Man, I'm trying to win some money, OJo. You over here.
Speaker 12
I'm just telling you, nah, because you said Romeo, Romeo. I'm just telling you, I played.
I played.
Speaker 12 I played Romeo.
Speaker 2 I'm going to say Dobbs. I'm going to say Dobbs have 53.
Speaker 12 I said that.
Speaker 2 AJ, 58 yards. He needs 58 yards.
Speaker 2 I don't know, boy.
Speaker 12 Ain't no telling.
Speaker 2 It ain't.
Speaker 12 You asked me about it.
Speaker 2 I'm going to say no. I'm going to say less.
Speaker 2 Josh Jacobs, more than three receptions.
Speaker 2 Yeah, they normally run two screens, more than.
Speaker 2 So if he gets three that's a win for me. I'm gonna say yes
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Speaker 2 All right, we're gonna get you out of here on this one now it's time for our final segment of the evening. It's time for Q and A.
Speaker 2 If JT don't win MVP,
Speaker 2
playing like this, the league got a problem. And besides, that two-point play, Saul had London, two catches, 26 yards, clamps, goal.
Yeah.
Speaker 12 Hey, yeah, Saul's had had a really, really good game. Really good game
Speaker 12 for him to have such a short time being there, getting acclimated to the defense.
Speaker 12 Man, that two-point,
Speaker 12 they tripped over each other's shoes. Outside of that, nobody really, really.
Speaker 2 Was that a two-point? Was that a two-point play? Yeah.
Speaker 2 And look,
Speaker 2 it's just going to, it's going to take, bro, I mean, so.
Speaker 2 I understand.
Speaker 2 I understand what everybody's saying, but when these quarterbacks putting up such gaudy numbers, what are you going to do with a quarterback with 50 touchdowns, four interceptions, and they win their division?
Speaker 2 It's the same thing with the Heisman in college football.
Speaker 12 You got to do a
Speaker 2 guy, Majinsi rush, but you know.
Speaker 2 It's just hard for a running back to win it. That's why you haven't seen a running back win that award since Adrian Peterson did it in 2012.
Speaker 2 This is the longest stretch they've gone without a running back winning the MVP.
Speaker 12 You got to be an outer body rules.
Speaker 2
Yes, that's what it's basically going to take. T.S.
Car Washer Detail Service. Shadow, who a person
Speaker 2 you would love to interview past
Speaker 2 or alive. Danelle Hunter is a dog.
Speaker 2 Eddie Murphy. Hey.
Speaker 2 Richard Pride.
Speaker 2 Malcolm X, Dr. King
Speaker 2 I like that
Speaker 2 Hove.
Speaker 12 Hey,
Speaker 12 I can make that happen, man.
Speaker 2 Oprah
Speaker 2 Tyler Perry.
Speaker 12 I can make that happen with TP too.
Speaker 2 Michael Jordan.
Speaker 2 Kobe
Speaker 2 Braun
Speaker 2 who else can I get can I Denzel Samuel L. Jackson
Speaker 2 anybody anybody you want to know my three you want to know my three you know who else I would you know what who I want to interview
Speaker 12 President Trump hey hey that well that that'll that'll ruffle some feathers there boy
Speaker 12 that'll that'll ruffle that'll ruffle ruffle
Speaker 12 you know i want to i want to interview if i if i had a show you know similar to like club shea shea
Speaker 12 pad past
Speaker 12 dead or gone
Speaker 12 number one would be frank sinatra
Speaker 2 Okay,
Speaker 12 Frank, man, if I get a chance to sit down with him, that would be a joy.
Speaker 12 Present time, like today, still alive. Who I'm a huge fan of? Daniel Day-Lewis.
Speaker 12 Huge, I'm about a huge fan of all this work.
Speaker 2 There will be blood.
Speaker 12 Yes,
Speaker 2 Lincoln.
Speaker 12
Gangs of New York. I mean, the list goes on.
My left foot, the list goes on.
Speaker 12 And the third person, like, I would have to sit down with, it would really be, really be dope.
Speaker 2 who uh
Speaker 12 Sinatra
Speaker 12 Lewis
Speaker 12 Luciano Pavarotti
Speaker 2 Luciano Pavarotti
Speaker 2 I would like to do it like kind of like what I did with uh uh scarface
Speaker 2 Prince.
Speaker 12 Oh, that's a good one. That hey, that's a good one.
Speaker 12 That's a good one.
Speaker 12 That's a good one.
Speaker 2 Because I want to know, you know, Under the Cherry Moon, Pink Cashmere.
Speaker 2
Sometimes it snows in April. Classics.
Purple Rain.
Speaker 2 Erotic City. International Lover.
Speaker 12 Controversy. You know, the first question I would ask? I would ask,
Speaker 12 how long did it take you to learn to play every goddamn instrument?
Speaker 2 All the instruments.
Speaker 9 Every one.
Speaker 12 Like, you know how difficult it is to learn to play one?
Speaker 12 You know how difficult it is to play the guitar?
Speaker 12 Plus, everything else, man,
Speaker 12 man.
Speaker 2 Raspberry beret.
Speaker 12 Raspberry Pere.
Speaker 2 Little Red Corvette.
Speaker 2 Starfishing Coffee.
Speaker 2 Raspberry Pere.
Speaker 2 Big Mike, what's up, Uncanocho? Do you think DK is worth the money the Steelers are paying him thus far? Well, yeah. Can't get in the ball consistently.
Speaker 12 He's a number one. He is a number one.
Speaker 2
They know that. Yeah.
So they do a great job of doubling when they, when, you know,
Speaker 2 they do a great job of making it difficult for Aaron to get him the ball. Because there's nobody else to really take the pressure off him.
Speaker 12 There's no legit number two. I'm talking about legit.
Speaker 2 Well, you know what?
Speaker 12 Oh, y'all want to double me? We're going to make sure he hurts you.
Speaker 12 They got damn.
Speaker 2 Philip Turner says Steelers last week super flunky.
Speaker 2 Yeah, they
Speaker 2 and they're not going to get neither because they still got the Ravens twice.
Speaker 12 True, they got us once. Because we already beat them.
Speaker 2 And y'all already beat them.
Speaker 12 That's what we do. That's what we're going to do to y'all, too.
Speaker 2 Oh, we already beat y'all.
Speaker 2 Oh, you're talking about it. We already win the next one.
Speaker 2
Man, Kaylin Blakemore said. Blakemore said, what's up, Uncle Docho? Okay, you shout out my mom.
Her name is Erica.
Speaker 2
She has a great ending to this year and raising two beautiful children. Love you.
Love you. You're the best.
Yes.
Speaker 2
Erica, Kaylin wanted to wish you, he just wanted to say, you know what? My mom, she's been amazing. And I just wanted her to know that she's amazing.
So, Erica, if you're watching,
Speaker 2 you're amazing.
Speaker 2
You're doing a great job raising two beautiful children. And I can't thank you enough.
Because that's what Kaylin wants you to know, how special you are. So, Kaylin, thank you for watching.
Speaker 2
Thank you for your support. And, Erica, enjoy the rest of 2020.
Kayla E.
Speaker 12 If you need a babysitter, holla at your boy.
Speaker 2 Alejandro Castro, y'all been to the Rose Bowl Flea Market or played there? No, I have not. What's going on in the Rose Bowl flea market that we need to know? The flea market, huh?
Speaker 12 You know what the flea market is? You ain't never been to Saucer and Swap Meet?
Speaker 12 Yeah,
Speaker 12 the flea market, the flea market be hitting, boy.
Speaker 12 I used to look, hey, you know, back then, you know, we used to wear the big white tees.
Speaker 12 Yeah,
Speaker 12 I used to get my big white tees when I was at Santa Monica Junior College from the Saucin Swap Meet, man.
Speaker 12 I'm assuming, you you know the rosebow flea market is something like that
Speaker 2 yeah i'm assuming too
Speaker 2 terry bullets said okay chat if you if you die with uncanocho let's flood the chat with a hashtag 85 love
Speaker 2 hashtag 84.
Speaker 2 yeah do that
Speaker 2 we greatly appreciate that tito davis said blaming the steelers defense tonight is foul colts and the seahawks not legit to me seahawks got to beat rams next week for me to believe them the colts got to beat the Chiefs
Speaker 2 okay
Speaker 2 then when they do that you're gonna say well they you're gonna say they only beat one good team we know how this work
Speaker 2 all you can do is beat people on your schedule um I think they have the quarterback played they have the defense they have the offense that uh uh they can run the ball jonathan taylor they're not one-dimensional um
Speaker 2
now look I need the Colts to get Buck back because Buck is their best defensive player. Buck? Defarrs Buckman.
So when he comes back and now you pair him with,
Speaker 2
but I think the Colts and Seahawks are legit. I do.
I think the Rams are legit also. So we'll find out.
Speaker 2
Like I said, that's the thing, Ocho. We got seven games.
Most teams got seven and eight games to go. So we're going to find out in the next month.
Speaker 2
Arthur Murray Jr., Seahawks over the Rams next week. Two picks plus five sacks.
Okay.
Speaker 2 Who that chasing the 09?
Speaker 2 What about Tyler Shook performance versus the Panthers? Thought he played well. Thought he played well.
Speaker 2 That's what you got to have.
Speaker 2 Who that chasing 09?
Speaker 2 I know you don't think he's the answer, though.
Speaker 12 No,
Speaker 2 I don't think either one of them. But based on the way
Speaker 2 he played well today,
Speaker 2
I don't need to move forward. I don't need to look too far back.
You ask about today, and I thought he played well. 19 of 27, 282, two touchdowns, and he didn't turn the football over.
Speaker 2 So you can't ask for anything better than that.
Speaker 2 Phillip Turner, I need Danny to stop fumbling.
Speaker 2 Just be Alex Smith. Yes.
Speaker 2 Yes,
Speaker 2 you do. You can't turn the ball because you pay double for those come playoff times now.
Speaker 2 Now, the likelihood, you're probably not going to face a quarterback that's... That's Pennix Jr.
Speaker 2 You're going to probably get my homeboy. you'll probably get Justin Herbert you're gonna probably get uh
Speaker 2 Lamar Jackson probably Bo Knicks with an outstanding defense to back him up
Speaker 2 so you turn the ball over you asking for trouble
Speaker 2 booby miles oh we need that debate on Thanksgiving versus Cincy
Speaker 2 oh that's what so that's what uh uh uh uh uh uh Y'all play the uh the Ravens, oh Joe, Thanksgiving.
Speaker 12
Oh, y'all, y'all, you know what? It makes sense. It makes sense because the Raven is a bird and we playing around Thanksgiving.
You know, y'all finna be straight turkey, boy.
Speaker 12
Yeah, y'all finna be straight turkey, boy. I wonder what we were playing at.
M T Bank?
Speaker 12 Three games.
Speaker 2
Packers at Lions. Right.
Chiefs at Cowboys.
Speaker 2
Bengals at Ravens. Ooh.
Yeah, we got it. That Thursday gets crazy.
Speaker 12 What Thursday game?
Speaker 2 Packers at Lions, Chiefs at Cowboys, Bengals at Ravens.
Speaker 12 But we're going to be, you mean I'm going to have a full stomach? We're going to come on the show after I have a full stomach and we beat y'all.
Speaker 2 That ain't happening.
Speaker 12 I'm going to wear a whole turkey costume.
Speaker 2 Yeah.
Speaker 2
Okay. Jimmy Cleveland, shout out to Ocho.
I need y'all to call NFL Police on Kevin and Lil Dylan. Can't throw accurately, throw the ball in the dirt.
Dink and dunk. Gabriel,
Speaker 2 he's sticking it for Baltimore game with Dylan
Speaker 2 and the Baltimore game.
Speaker 2 Hold up. They play Cleveland next week?
Speaker 2 Baltimore.
Speaker 2 Wait.
Speaker 12 The Ravens play the Browns next week?
Speaker 2 Baltimore at Browns? Baltimore at Browns.
Speaker 12
Now, listen, Uncle. I know you're going to say, oh, we're going to beat the breaks off of them.
Dylan Gabriel's not the answer. He's not playing well.
Watch the Browns win that game.
Speaker 2 You can hope that, but that ain't happening.
Speaker 12 It's the flip.
Speaker 2 Yeah, Miles Garrett's have 10 sacks.
Speaker 12 It's the spoiler of the season, huh? It's the way it happened.
Speaker 12
People thought people, listen, the Dolphins was playing the Bills. Everybody in Mama, oh, the Dolphins bad this year.
They only won three games. Oh, the Bills and whooped them.
Speaker 12 Well, I guarantee you.
Speaker 2 Wow, next week. Yeah.
Speaker 2
That didn't happen, Ocho. I know that's wishful thinking.
Triple F's Cop Saturday says on December 21st, Ocho's going to have half a Bengals jersey, half a Dolphins jersey.
Speaker 12 So
Speaker 12 hey, that's Christmas time. Four days before Christmas?
Speaker 12 You started Christmas shopping yet, huh?
Speaker 2 Yeah, I already told him. Hey, ain't nothing coming out.
Speaker 2 Merry Christmas.
Speaker 2
Dr. Frank L.
Bellamy said, hey, fam, just saying hello. Y'all doing good? Doc, we're doing amazing.
Better than your Cowboys.
Speaker 2 Hold on. Who the Cowboys play this week? Next week? This week?
Speaker 2 This week?
Speaker 2 I know they don't know about this week, but who do they play next week?
Speaker 2 Oh, Lord.
Speaker 2 Y'all about to get another win. Y'all play at the Raiders.
Speaker 12 Not, you know what?
Speaker 2 Max Crossbie about to have four sacks, though.
Speaker 2 You know, given what they've gone through the last week, Ocho, with the tragic passing of Marshawn Leland, you know what? They might rise up.
Speaker 2 They might put a little string together.
Speaker 12 Possibly.
Speaker 2 I can see that.
Speaker 2 But they right tackle?
Speaker 2 Mm-mm.
Speaker 12 Well, they got some things to fix over there, boy.
Speaker 2 They do. True and infamous 73, Justin Fields was three or five for five yards in the first half.
Speaker 2 Bro, an old man can throw the ball more than 10 yards.
Speaker 12 What is the NFL, man?
Speaker 2 Man, they throw the ball more than that in the 40s.
Speaker 2
Brendan Crowe, if you guys were in charge of Cleveland, what all changes were you making after the season? The incompetence at all level is too much. Can't run that back.
Nope. I'm cleaning the house.
Speaker 12 I'm cleaning the house, too. Matter of fact, if I had the money, I'd buy the Browns.
Speaker 12 No, we ain't got that coming. I'm just saying, hypothetically speaking.
Speaker 2
Hey, Samuel LeGrand. Hey, Lovelace is crazy.
Loveland, I think that's his name. That's what we corrected that, but okay.
Yep. Appreciate that.
Speaker 2 Christopher Evans Jr., Trey Henderson, looking like Lightning McQueen versus Tampa. Big win for us.
Speaker 2 Got to keep it going.
Speaker 2 Bro.
Speaker 2 He got speed now.
Speaker 12 Who that?
Speaker 2 Oh,
Speaker 2 He can pick him up and put him down. He did.
Speaker 2
That was very, very, very impressive. Just minimize the turnovers.
Yay.
Speaker 2 But Bravo, Bravo is a guy I would like to play for.
Speaker 12 He got that team playing very well.
Speaker 12 Goddamn, Drake May is the real deal.
Speaker 2 Philip Turner said, just make it
Speaker 2 MVQ. most valuable quarterback, not MVP.
Speaker 2 Only them can win.
Speaker 2 That seems to be the case right now, bro.
Speaker 2 It really does.
Speaker 2
Because if you go back and look, look at what Adrian Peterson won. Look at whose quarterback was.
It was Christian Ponder. Look at his stats.
Speaker 2 Look at Adrian Peterson.
Speaker 12 Hey, that was one hell of a season, though, Bar.
Speaker 2 Yes.
Speaker 2 But let's just put together Peggy Manning's 5,000-yard season with 50 touchdowns. He went in MVP? No.
Speaker 2
Mahomes, 5,000, 50 touchdowns, 10 interceptions. He went in MVP.
No.
Speaker 2 When Lamar Jackson had 40 touchdowns. I mean, you look at these guys' numbers, OJo.
Speaker 2 Josh Allen,
Speaker 2 got 35 passing touchdowns, 10 rushing touchdowns.
Speaker 2
It's going to be hard. It's going to be hard for a running back to win.
I'm not saying it can't be done.
Speaker 2 Jonathan Taylor breaks Eric Dickerson's record, has 25 or more touchdowns. He's going to win the MVP.
Speaker 2 You heard it here first.
Speaker 2 Nunez, Unc and Ocho, is there going to be a Nightcap World Cup edition next year? Messi's going back to back, Ocho. You and a Milan taking it all this year, Ocho.
Speaker 2 We'll see. That's Ocho expertise.
Speaker 2 I'm going to have to get somebody on here with Ocho to do Nightcap World Cup
Speaker 2
edition. Mike Banks said, me and Coach Johnson added again.
I like well done steak. He likes medium rare.
Am I tripping? Hell yo. Nobody wants that damn occupant.
Medium rare.
Speaker 2 I like mine medium rare.
Speaker 12 I like my medium well.
Speaker 12 Butterfly, you know, a little butter.
Speaker 2
Sometimes you can get it medium plus, but just give me medium. I don't want it rare.
I don't want it medium rare. I want.
Speaker 2 Okay. Okay.
Speaker 2 I mean, you know, Ash won't hurt. The good vet could have saved it.
Speaker 2 You know what I'm saying? Nah, I'm good.
Speaker 2 Sam Black, my pants segments are getting shorter and shorter.
Speaker 2 Sam.
Speaker 2 Now, hey, look, you guys are real. I mean, you know,
Speaker 2 this is why Mr. Kraft made that decision.
Speaker 2 But it all turned around.
Speaker 2
I believe Coach Belichick might have could have held on to that job. But it's pride.
You're going to take two guys that's never called offensive plays. See, that's where the arrogance comes in at.
Speaker 2 You're going to take two guys, one was a special teams coach, never called a play, except return left, return right,
Speaker 2 block left, block right, and then a defensive coordinator, and you're going to have them call offensive plays.
Speaker 2 After your guy goes to the Pro Bowl, after your guy goes 10 and 6, and you win a playoff game, and this is what you do to him, it was his arrogance.
Speaker 2 It was his arrogance.
Speaker 2 Mac Jones can play.
Speaker 2 I'm not saying he's the second coming of Tom Brady. Hell, I don't believe Drake May is the second coming of Tom Brady.
Speaker 2 But you see the difference between Drake May when Drake May got Josh McDaniels calling play for him versus Mac Jones getting
Speaker 2 Joe Judge and
Speaker 2 what's the D coordinator for him?
Speaker 2 What's his name?
Speaker 2 I forget his name. He went to Detroit, the head coach
Speaker 2 matt patrician
Speaker 2 you see the difference
Speaker 2 but guess what if you guys keep winning we're gonna talk about y'all every week sam red eye first power lifting competition soon any advice uh
Speaker 2 yes be conservative on your first lift
Speaker 12 be strong like me
Speaker 2 make sure make hey make sure you got all make make sure you everything is what it's supposed to be uh you know get your rest
Speaker 2 you're gonna get plenty of time i mean hey
Speaker 2 man them powerlifting meets man them things be taking forever
Speaker 2 you live once you might not live again for another 15 20 minutes
Speaker 2 joshua strong said oh joe i saw your camera go out yesterday i'm still here your tech got big dog from
Speaker 2 california but i can help from I can help you shoot. I can help from here a troubleshoot.
Speaker 2
Oh, Joe, man, he don't take no for an answer. Saucy D, Melissa ran the table this year and got slighted from not being a finalist.
I agree. 1,000%.
Speaker 2
How's Melissa Jefferson? She lost one race all year long. She got the fast, fastest, five, fastest time in the 100 meters.
She sweeped the world championship in the 100 and 200.
Speaker 2
And she was on the winning four by one. And you mean to tell me she's not.
Listen, this is not a knock on
Speaker 2 any of the women that was nominated, but she got to be a finalist.
Speaker 2 If she's not a finalist, I don't know who is.
Speaker 2 She should have been a finalist.
Speaker 2 You get no qualms from me.
Speaker 2 You know, Sid doing what she did in the 400 meters, I can understand.
Speaker 2 She challenged a record that many thought
Speaker 2 would be unbreakable, untouchable.
Speaker 2 You know, her, Paulino, NASA El-Sawi,
Speaker 2 that was a race for the ages. You had two women go under 48 seconds when you had only had two women ever go under 48 seconds.
Speaker 2 And you had two go and Sid goes 4778, which is not a takeoff of that 40s, 40, 47, 60 by Matarina Coke.
Speaker 2 But yeah, Melissa definitely should have been a finalist. She absolutely should have been a finalist.
Speaker 2
And this is not a knock on Femm K. Femmke is going to go up to the 800 meters.
She says she's not going to run her specialty, which is the hurdles. She's going up to 800.
Speaker 2
But we know if Sid is in that, she ain't winning no world championship and she ain't going to have all those fast times. Sid is focusing on something else.
Sid says, you know what?
Speaker 2
I want to be the greatest. I want to be.
Right now, that's Shelly Ann Fraser Price. Shelly Ann Fraser Price is the greatest female tracking field athlete
Speaker 2 there is.
Speaker 2 You look at what she's done in the Olympics, you look at what she's done in the world championships, and you look at the longevity which she's had. She's the best.
Speaker 2 But if Sid holds the world record in the 400 hurdles and the 400 meters, and she wins a gold medal,
Speaker 2 yeah, that's it. That's enough for me.
Speaker 2 That's enough for me.
Speaker 2 And I still believe
Speaker 2 she's going to go back to the hurdles and go under 49 because now what we know, because we had never seen her run 48 before
Speaker 2 in the open four.
Speaker 2
She's run sub-48, which lets her know she can run sub-50 in the hurdles. She goes sub-50 in the hurdles.
She's already gone sub 48 once. She gets that world record.
Speaker 2 And she might double. She might do both of them in 28.
Speaker 2 If they give her enough time
Speaker 12 in between to recover,
Speaker 2 it's on.
Speaker 2 Laura Sterling, can you wish my wonderful mother and a recent cancer survivor, Miss Nettie Morris, a happy 83rd?
Speaker 2
Yes, we can, Laura Sterling. Miss Nettie, happy 83rd birthday and congratulations for beating cancer.
Man, F cancer. Nobody cares about cancer.
Speaker 2 I wish we could eradicate it, but unfortunately, we haven't found a way to wipe it out, but we're trying. But Miss Nettie, happy, huh?
Speaker 2 Happy,
Speaker 2
happy 83rd birthday. And guess what? Many, many more to come.
Congratulations, little beating cancer.
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One question, how important is an O-line and how can you tell an outstanding offensive O-line talent?
Speaker 2 Or it is of the utmost importance.
Speaker 2 It is the most important thing you can have on offense. Because I don't give a damn who your quarterback is, because if they can't block for you or open holes for the running back, you ain't doing it.
Speaker 12
Games are one. Games are one in the trenches.
Games are one and loss in the trenches. Your front line, your back,
Speaker 12 your defensive line, either way. Everything starts there.
Speaker 2 Yeah, that is the most important.
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Speaker 2 We want to thank our very special guest, Devon H.A.N., for joining us tonight. The Chargers beat the Steelers by the score of 25 to 10.
Speaker 2 Lions, Dama, double up the Commanders, 44 to 22, as Dan Campbell takes over the play calling.
Speaker 2 Ravens beat the Vikings, run their record four and five, and have won three straight after losing, after starting one and five.
Speaker 2 What did something today?
Speaker 2 Browns lose to the Jets 27-20. Kevin Stafaski said they're sticking with Dylan Gabriel.
Speaker 2 Jonathan Taylor rams for 244 yards and three touchdowns as the Colts win in overtime 31-25.
Speaker 2 Matthew Stafford throws for another four, four,
Speaker 2 has four touchdowns, no interception, as they beat the 49ers.
Speaker 2 Matthew Stafford has three straight games in which he's thrown 12 total touchdowns, zero interceptions. Three straight games with at least four touchdowns and zero interceptions.
Speaker 2 That's the first time that's been done in NFL history.
Speaker 2 Patriots beat the Buccaneers 28-23.
Speaker 2
And the Bears rally past the Giants 24-20. Thank you guys for joining us.
We'll see you tomorrow night after the Packers Eagles game. I'm Unk.
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