Best of NFL News Part 1: AB ARRESTED, Sauce Trade SHOCKER, Cowboys DELUSIONAL Move!
Shannon Sharpe and Chad “Ochocinco” Johnson deliver the best NFL reactions on Nightcap! The guys break down Antonio Brown’s shocking arrest, debate whether the Colts made a mistake trading for Sauce Gardner, and call out Jerry Jones and the Cowboys for a delusional move to get Quinnen Williams. Don’t miss Unc and Ocho’s unfiltered NFL takes!
0:00 - Antonio Brown arrested, extradited from Dubai to US
13:36 - Jets trade Sauce Gardner to Colts for 2 first-round picks
33:20 - Jets trade Quinnen Williams to Cowboys for first and second round picks
49:25 - Dolphins remove video games from locker room
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Speaker 12 Ocho, someone you know very well, Antonio Brown was arrested on attempted murder charge stemming from a shooting after celebrity boxing event in Miami. Police confirmed today.
Speaker 12
Miami police say Brown was taken into custody by the U.S. Marshals in Dubai in the United Arab Emirates.
He was flown to Essex County, New Jersey, where he is being held pending extradition to Miami.
Speaker 12 It was unclear
Speaker 12 why A.B. was taken to New Jersey first or how long he's been in Dubai, although he has posted several times on social media over the past few months from there.
Speaker 12 According to the arrest warrant, detailing the May 16th shooting, A.B.
Speaker 12 is accused of grabbing a handgun from a security staffer after a boxing match and firing two shots at a man he had been fist fighting with earlier.
Speaker 12 The man told the investigators that one of the bullets grazed his neck.
Speaker 12 Oh Cho, yeah,
Speaker 12 AB arguably one of the most dominant receivers, not just in his era of his time.
Speaker 12
I mean, you look at from 2010 to 2018, he was a four-time first-team all-pro, he was a seven-time Pro Bowler, and he was a Super Bowl with the Bucks. And he did it.
Um,
Speaker 12 I just wish AB realized how special he was.
Speaker 12 He didn't realize it, Ocho.
Speaker 12 Ocho.
Speaker 13 Hey, listen,
Speaker 13 you ain't got to tell me.
Speaker 13
You know, I know. You got to understand that we all grew up together.
We all come from the same area. We all train together.
I was watching A.B.
Speaker 13
when he was at New Orleans High School. When he was in high school, I got seen him at Central Michigan.
We trained every offseason together for years,
Speaker 13 years, every offseason. Me, A.B., Santana Moss, Andre Johnson,
Speaker 13 I mean, it's a constant, constant to make sure that union,
Speaker 13 that union, as far as receivers that come from Dade County, we stay together in no way stay on the right path.
Speaker 13 Always understanding how we got.
Speaker 13 Who we are.
Speaker 13 The work we put in to get to this point,
Speaker 13
iron sharpens iron. So we made sure we all stayed aligned with each other and did everything the right way.
Always. I'm not sure at what point I understand.
Speaker 13
He knows he's great. We always told him he was great.
I'm not sure at what point
Speaker 13 everybody else, we straight, we straight line. Even I was a fool, huh?
Speaker 13
Even I was a fool in a fun, entertaining way. But listen, I know what lines not to cross.
Right.
Speaker 13 I understood what lines not to cross, but there's certain bridges I didn't want to burn that I knew I would need on the back end.
Speaker 13 I don't, I'm, I'm, I'm, I, I, I, I tried, I tried to talk to him. I tried.
Speaker 13 Because, bro, I'm talking about people understanding.
Speaker 13
I sent like a broken heart when I saw, you know, what happened when I saw the news on Twitter. And people were like, why are you sending, man, it's history.
This ain't got nothing to do with football.
Speaker 12
Yeah, it's bigger than football. Way bigger.
I know the man on a personal level. You know him as a fan.
I know him on a personal level.
Speaker 13 Yeah. And so it hurt to see that it's come to this point.
Speaker 13 You know, and
Speaker 13 you try to talk to individuals, but stuff like that, when it comes to someone that's grown and is able to make their own decisions, you know, you kind of let things play out for what they are because maybe he's doing something that he feels is the right thing, even though it may be crazy from the outside looking in.
Speaker 13 Maybe there's a method to a madness. But when it gets to this point,
Speaker 13 God damn,
Speaker 13 not my dog.
Speaker 13 You know, maybe, maybe something like this is, in a sense, I don't know how things are going to turn out, but maybe this is something he might need
Speaker 13 to bring him back home. If you understand what I mean.
Speaker 13 Something to bring him back home and getting back on the right track. I'm not sure what the outcome of this will be,
Speaker 12 but
Speaker 13 I mean, man,
Speaker 13
you know, I'm here for him. If you ever needed me, you could ever reach out.
You know, I'm always here, man.
Speaker 13 It's three people, huh?
Speaker 13 It's three people,
Speaker 13 no matter what.
Speaker 13 AB is one of them.
Speaker 13 Who's Nazada
Speaker 13 and that damn T.O.
Speaker 13 I don't care? I don't care what it is. But if they ever need anything,
Speaker 13 I don't care if I was on my last.
Speaker 13 You got it.
Speaker 13 I don't care. It just, I just,
Speaker 13 oh shit, that shit hurt. I just never wanted to bother him because he's grown.
Speaker 13 You know, so it's, it's, it's, you know, I want to stay in my place, you know, and
Speaker 13 that shit just make me sad to see for somebody that special to understand all the obstacles and the sacrifices
Speaker 13 to get to where you at. And then to just to let it go like that.
Speaker 13 When
Speaker 13 I don't know,
Speaker 13 it's crazy.
Speaker 12
I don't know. Look, all I know is about what they said.
I guess he had gotten into a fight with somebody. It was a celebrity boxing match.
Speaker 12 I guess he felt he was getting jumped and he took the security guards.
Speaker 12 I guess from what it is, I guess he took the security guards' firearm.
Speaker 12 I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 12 I mean, I know you think the United Emirates, but you need to go to Russia. If you were trying to get away, you need to go to Russia.
Speaker 12 You need to go to somebody with China, somebody that ain't cool with the U.S.
Speaker 12 You see Edward Snowden?
Speaker 13 Oh, yeah.
Speaker 12 Hey, you see where he's at?
Speaker 13 Oh, yeah. And he's still locked up all this time.
Speaker 12
He ain't locked up. He's over there.
What you call him? In Russia?
Speaker 13 Oh, yeah. They can't, they can't extradite him.
Speaker 12 Nope.
Speaker 13 He was a spy or something like that, huh?
Speaker 12 He stole all that encrypted info. Yeah.
Speaker 13 Yeah.
Speaker 12 I just,
Speaker 12 man.
Speaker 12 I mean, hopefully this all gets resolved.
Speaker 12 Look,
Speaker 12 me and AB have had our differences, but in a situation like this, I just
Speaker 12 have sympathy. I have empathy for him.
Speaker 12 We all make mistakes. We all go through things.
Speaker 12 And
Speaker 12 it's just tough. It's just tough to see somebody that was so talented, so immensely talented.
Speaker 12 Obviously, you knew him on a different level than I knew him. I just knew him on a surface level, covered him for a number of years,
Speaker 12 and to see this happen,
Speaker 12 it's just tough.
Speaker 12 It's extremely tough.
Speaker 12 I just
Speaker 12 boy.
Speaker 12 Like I said, I just,
Speaker 12 you know, sometimes, Ocho, you, you, you know, we get to a level we do feel like we're untouchable.
Speaker 12 We feel like we're invincible.
Speaker 12 And
Speaker 12 I'm like.
Speaker 12
I don't know. He just, he was special.
I wish he could have
Speaker 12 stayed focused,
Speaker 12 stayed in Pittsburgh,
Speaker 12 stayed with Big Ben. Ain't no telling what kind of numbers he could have put up with Big Ben.
Speaker 12 No kind of numbers.
Speaker 12 He was,
Speaker 12 like I said,
Speaker 12 hopefully he can.
Speaker 12 Someone that that that loves him and cares about him and understands him can talk to him and
Speaker 12 reason with him. Yeah.
Speaker 12 Sometimes it's hard to reason with somebody that's unreasonable.
Speaker 12 You know, you try, like, hey, man, you know, blah.
Speaker 12 And it just, they ain't even really trying to hit. Do you talking to a mocho? You ever be talking to somebody you're like, and you know they're not listening?
Speaker 12 You know, everything that you said is going through one ear and not the other.
Speaker 13 And you know what else is hard too,
Speaker 13 it's hard to listen to somebody
Speaker 13 when they feel exactly like you said when they're on top of the world and they feel invincible it's hard even even though that's your dog and you know that's your homeboy you understand he grown and you know he he moving a different way than you know the way you move so you you got the respect with the decision making you know he's he is grown and then you kind of question some of the people around him you know like wait a minute that ain't what that ain't they ain't even that ain't even home team
Speaker 12 they ain't been there
Speaker 13
not not through what we not through what we went through to get to where we got to. Right.
Because if it was,
Speaker 13 they wouldn't even let you be doing the shit you're doing.
Speaker 12 True.
Speaker 13 But again, you know,
Speaker 13
I'm in the background. I really can't, you know, you're grown.
So I thought there was a method to the madness, but man,
Speaker 13
love him to death. I don't agree with all the decisions and some of the things he does, but love him to death because it's bigger for us, for me.
It's bigger than football. That's home team.
Speaker 13 Always has been for years, since since a baby
Speaker 12 he get it
Speaker 12 he get it figured out oh joe um
Speaker 12 you know like i said i've just i just like i said i don't really know all the ins and out of you know the police probably took witness statements and said this is kind of what transpired and this you know discharging a firearm yeah oh uh they got the whole video with that that little incident there
Speaker 12 oh dude
Speaker 13
what oh you ain't see that i didn't oh man, they got the whole fight and everything. Clear as day.
4K.
Speaker 12 Damn.
Speaker 13 Yeah, yeah, yeah, 4K. So, I mean,
Speaker 13 yeah, man,
Speaker 13 I don't know, man.
Speaker 13 I don't know.
Speaker 10 I don't know.
Speaker 13 I hope everything turned out on the up and up and young bull get a get a chance to
Speaker 13 redeem and get back on the right path.
Speaker 13 That's it.
Speaker 12
You said something very interesting, Ocho. You said, you know, you didn't want to burn no bridge.
Why would I destroy a bridge that I might have to cross back over on?
Speaker 13
We don't think like that all the time, though. You don't.
You don't think like listen, I
Speaker 13
one more thing about it. I may play around a lot.
You know, I might get into this character of being goofy here on this show, but I think long term.
Speaker 13 I think very strategically, very methodically in everything I do.
Speaker 12 You hear everything.
Speaker 13 I'm thinking down the road, five, ten years from now.
Speaker 13 Like there's a reason I'm not a statistic.
Speaker 13 You're not hearing me.
Speaker 13 Unk, I play a fool, but I'm not one.
Speaker 12 Yeah.
Speaker 13 There's a reason I'm not a statistic.
Speaker 12 I tell guys all the time, Mocho, I say, man, look,
Speaker 12 just try to out. Look,
Speaker 12 everything is not going to be perfect.
Speaker 12 But, bro, when you get to these teams, just play hard, work hard, because you never know when you're going to need to reach out or ask the team for a favor to help you to do something.
Speaker 12 I've always tried to stay in good standing with the Broncos. I've always tried to stay in good standing with the Ravens.
Speaker 12 They understand I have a job to do, and sometimes I have to critique them harshly.
Speaker 13 Yeah.
Speaker 12 They understand that.
Speaker 12 But
Speaker 12 I always tried to be a very good representative.
Speaker 13 Yeah.
Speaker 12 Especially when I played.
Speaker 12 Not to get in any trouble and, you know, be out there fighting and carrying on and acting a damn fool.
Speaker 12 You know, not
Speaker 12 mainly because of Mary Porter. That was the biggest reflection on her.
Speaker 13 Right, right. But
Speaker 12 I just,
Speaker 13 hey,
Speaker 13
I had a healthy balance of both, though. Yeah.
I would listen, I'm going to represent home team. I'm going to represent every I'm going to give you every bit of Dade County I got in me.
You feel me?
Speaker 13 In a structured environment that is the NFL, which is all about control and refusing, you know, those to be individuals. So I'm going to have my fun and be me, but I'm also going to,
Speaker 13 I'm going to teeter the line, but i'm not gonna cross it because i'm gonna need you in the long run i understood that
Speaker 13 hey listen for the life of me i understood it right
Speaker 13 so i mean just just being able to balance both i did i did it very well i did it very well i got myself into character the same way i when i when i come on here when i come on here man i'm in character huh
Speaker 13
I'm in character. I'm having fun.
I'm entertaining and just
Speaker 13 living.
Speaker 13 Now, when it comes, when it's time to get serious, yep. Oh, man, listen,
Speaker 13 I can buckle it up with the best of them.
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Speaker 13 the coach trade salt coach trade for salt gardner the jets get adonna uh adonna mitchell 2026
Speaker 13
Second round pick. I think it's no, it's oh, it's the first, two first.
God, he gave it two first. That's Quinny.
A 2026 first round pick and a 2027 first-round pick.
Speaker 13 So two ones and a player to get Saul's Gardner. In July, they signed Saul Gardner to the highest contract ever for deep for a cornerback.
Speaker 13 Four years, $120 million, $30.1 million per year, and they traded.
Speaker 13
What's that about, though? Y'all got to help me on this one. I think it's a combination.
We're not winning.
Speaker 13 We can't justify paying a corner that is not, they don't believe he's playing to the level that he played his first two years when he's a first team all-pro, right? And that plus, we're losing.
Speaker 13 How can we justify playing, paying that kind of money, Joe and Ocho, and we're losing? Hey, look, sometimes it's the environment, though. Y'all know this.
Speaker 13 Yeah, because I saw Sam Darnley get up out of there and
Speaker 13
look like a competent quarterback. He's in the MVP discussion.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh, yes, you're right. And it's the environment.
And it starts with an unfortunate Woody
Speaker 13 is you.
Speaker 13 i'm just saying
Speaker 13 guys guys look confident and and
Speaker 13 i think sometimes it's quick to give up i mean they give up on a young ain't no patience no more now no we're in a society now that we want we want what we want because we can get it i can order something and amazon prime they will get that thing today
Speaker 13 i say shell i need some lotion man
Speaker 13
hey they'd have took a picture and said it damn Damn, that's a that's my front door. That'll drop it off, Ocho.
Yeah.
Speaker 13
You want something? You want Uber Eats or grow up or whatever? How they do it now, Ocho. Guess what? You can get it.
I ain't got to leave you. I'm going to get everything I want right there.
Speaker 13 So that's the kind of, that's what football is, that's what football and sports have turned into. They used to give you time to develop, but the money has gotten so great.
Speaker 13
You ain't got no time. I can't.
I can't.
Speaker 13 Listen, hey,
Speaker 13 you know, hey, Joe, what's up? I need a return on my investment
Speaker 13 expeditiously.
Speaker 13 They want to return, huh?
Speaker 13 R.R.I.
Speaker 13
Right away. That's another reason why.
This is another reason why, especially when players get paid big.
Speaker 13
I'm speaking for the receiver position in general, for players that are struggling, especially this year. I need y'all boys.
I know y'all going to see this.
Speaker 13
I need y'all boys to come on down here and see your boy. All I need is for a week.
I need you for a week.
Speaker 13 If you want to stay longer i can put you up i can feed you you know i can give you a a stipend is that's what you call it right no per diem per diem i get a little per diem stipend per diem yes yeah so so you'll be able to eat and but i want to help you with your craft i want to help you this is for all my nfl receivers if you're struggling if you're not understanding why you're not getting the ball or why you're not an intricate part of the offense please i beg of you come on down here with your boy give me a week or give me a month i just want to work on your game you know i want you to be able to come back and be able to make a difference.
Speaker 13
You know, so your officer coordinator didn't have to worry about you. He can put you in positions.
All you got to do is let your play do the talking. But anyway, let's go back on track.
Speaker 13 You're going to send their quarterbacks down to Peyton Manning or Tom Brady?
Speaker 13 No, no. But see, that's the thing, huh? That's the thing.
Speaker 13 When you get certain receivers right and you have a certain skill set, at times, at times, because it is NFL, you would love to have a receiver, but the person playing quarterback doesn't matter because you can always get open.
Speaker 13
Because you can always get open. But if he can't get me the ball, what I supposed to do? Hey, listen.
Well, whoever's at the helm
Speaker 13 shouldn't be quarterback in that situation.
Speaker 13 Jeddah,
Speaker 13 would he rather have Sam Darno back or JJ McCarthy?
Speaker 13
I'm going to see when it comes to Jeddah. He's so calm.
He's so calm when he talks. He's so politically correct.
Man, talk your shit. It don't matter who playing quarterback.
Call a play for me.
Speaker 13
Put me inside. Put me in motion.
Put me on the outside. Leave me there.
I'm going to get open. He's one of the few that can get open.
Now, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 13
But when you think about when DeAndre Hopkins with the Houston Texans, right? Yeah. And you think about the level of talent, the level of skill, the DNA and makeup of a Justin Jefferson.
I mean,
Speaker 13 night and day, nothing wrong with D-Hop, but I'm just saying, we talk about a dude that's on a historic run. So to me,
Speaker 13 to me, an individual like that, man,
Speaker 13 man,
Speaker 13
put anybody out there at quarterback. Just give me the ball.
Put the ball in the goddamn area. Put it in the vicinity where I can reach out and touch it.
I got it.
Speaker 13 They're receiving this nfl joe yeah make a bad quarterback look good
Speaker 13 with good separation if he can create good separation there there are a few receivers about a handful yeah a handful of them can make bad quarterback play look good just put the ball in the fucking area that's it i'll take care of the rest yeah
Speaker 13 you just give me the ball
Speaker 13 just give me the ball give me an opportunity that i ain't got to jump up over seven feet i ain't got to drop 10 feet in the air and do all that other stuff and do a pirouette to come down with the ball.
Speaker 13
Just get, just put the ball in my hand. Give me an opportunity.
If I'm going left, just leave me.
Speaker 13
If I'm going right, just leave me. Just give me, I just want an opportunity.
But man, you skipping the ball to me like we skipping rocks on the water at a pond.
Speaker 13 But that ain't gonna work.
Speaker 13 That ain't gonna work for me.
Speaker 13 But I think that has a lot to do with it.
Speaker 13 At one and seven, Ocho,
Speaker 13 we ain't going nowhere. Yeah.
Speaker 13 We're not.
Speaker 13 And if we're not going anywhere it's just hard to justify
Speaker 13 you know
Speaker 13 paying the kind of money that these guys commanding you know what
Speaker 13 i mean they gave i mean and plus oh yo indy blue made him an offer they couldn't refuse oh yeah absolutely who and a player two ones but you know what when i think about the foreseeable future i like what the cults are doing because the old the cult is Man, what the hell?
Speaker 13
The Colts are saying, you know what? We all in. Yeah, we are right now.
We are all in. This is is our chance.
We have a chance to do it.
Speaker 13
So I don't know poker, but I understand what putting all your chips in is. And that's what the coach is doing.
We have a chance. We have opportunity.
We found the quarterback of our future.
Speaker 13 And right now we're playing really well.
Speaker 13 We actually have a goddamn chance to compete for Lombardi. No matter what people may think in general, we just do.
Speaker 13 So
Speaker 13 where did this trade put ended? Are they at the top of the food chain?
Speaker 13
In the AFC, absolutely. Yeah, absolutely.
Now,
Speaker 13
offensively, defensively, they're gonna become really good. You got you got Kenny Moore, you got Bynum.
Now, you add
Speaker 13
Salt Gardner when Tadavius Ward comes back. Man, hell, that could almost be like a no-fly zone.
Now, it looks like that on paper. Now, can they play like that as a unit? Yeah, they can play like that.
Speaker 13 Huh? They got Buck, Brett,
Speaker 13
yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, I forgot about 909.
He nice. Hey, look, the Coach locked in.
They said they're going for it. This year, they're waiting.
Yeah. Yeah, I like it.
Ballard, Ballard. A,
Speaker 13 the Eve, like, hey,
Speaker 13
this is a good opportunity that we're going to have. We're 7-2.
We're sitting at top of the AFC.
Speaker 13 You know, they beaten Denver. They beat Denver on a walk-off.
Speaker 13 I mean, think about it.
Speaker 13 They got sacked six times. They had six turnovers and still only lost by seven.
Speaker 13 So now, what happens if they only have three turnovers? What happens if they don't have any turnovers? They feel with the way they they can run the football and the skill position they have.
Speaker 13
Now, the right tackle, Brayden Smith, got his ass handed to it. Well, the whole offensive line had to get their ass handed to it.
Because TJ Watt was kicking ass.
Speaker 13 High Smith was a defensive player, AFC defensive player of the week. So obviously, he did his job.
Speaker 13 But from sacking him, from forced fumbles, from picking him off, they did a hell of a job on that offense. And now, what teams are going to try to do, and it's a lot easier said than done,
Speaker 13 let us neutralize Jonathan Taylor, and we're going to make Daniel Jones beat us.
Speaker 13
That was Pittsburgh's philosophy. Stop Jonathan Taylor, make Daniel Jones beat you.
Now, if you can't stop JT, now they're going to play action.
Speaker 13 It's going to be hard to beat them. So I don't have a problem with what Andy did.
Speaker 13
But they gave up a steep price to get softs. Two first-rounders, Joe, and a player.
Yeah.
Speaker 13 And you see, Ocho, Mitchell really hadn't, since he fumbled that ball at the Rams in the goal line, he had that long touchdown, Ocho, and he fumbled. Remember? Yeah.
Speaker 13
Hey. Had him in a lost and foul.
Hey, hey, Arkan, Ocho, but they was, the coach, you know, they needed help at that DB position, right?
Speaker 13
Well, Ward was, Ward was in concussion protocol. He was out there warming up, Joe, and he, you know, he's backpelling.
He turned to run. And he ran smack dab into
Speaker 13 a player
Speaker 13
in warm-ups. Wow.
So he was a pre-game. So it wasn't warm-up like we on the field and we're in our uniform.
So he collided heads and he ain't got no helmet on. So
Speaker 13
he's in protocol. We don't, they don't know when he's coming out.
So now you pair him with
Speaker 13
yeah, you put him in sauce. Now I don't know who's gonna play the slot.
Maybe Bynum goes to the slot. I think they created for another.
I think they added another player too.
Speaker 13 Kenny, Kenny, Kenny, Kenny Moore in the slot, huh? Or the Lord Nickel.
Speaker 13 So
Speaker 13 they, hey, they got a nice, they got, hey, and they got Frank, Zion Franklin.
Speaker 13 They got a nice squad.
Speaker 13 Matter of fact, you know what? It's so funny. You understand who's making the calls over there with the coast now?
Speaker 13 Ballard. Yeah, well, I think Jerry needed to take some notes because I see somebody that's doing a much better job than he is.
Speaker 13
What you say about that, Joe? Hey, you got to chill, man. I'm not chilling.
I'm just saying.
Speaker 13
I'm just saying. We're seeing someone.
We're seeing someone. You know, rest in peace to the great Mr.
Ursay and someone actually taking over and doing what a GM is supposed to do.
Speaker 13 You know?
Speaker 13
I mean, that's just me. I'm just saying.
I mean, I gotta get away with that. And you see the daughters run it now.
Huh? The daughters run the team now. Yeah.
You see, they stay out the way.
Speaker 13
They say, hey, you do what you do. I'm just going to stay.
I'm going to stay down here. I'm going to have my head set on.
Speaker 13 I just want to know when I hear a play and it don't go right, who effed up?
Speaker 13 Was it the quarterback? Was it the offensive line? Did the receiver not run the right route? Did the black, was the back supposed to pick up? I just need to know.
Speaker 13 Ocho.
Speaker 13 What's that? No,
Speaker 13
that game is at M ⁇ T. Oh, it is? Yeah.
Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 13
Y'all play them on the 14th in Cincinnati. Oh, November.
Damn, we playing back-to-back? Oh, oh, December. Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
How do you hear?
Speaker 13 Are you going to play them on the 14th and play them on the 27th? You play them on the 27th of November, and and then you play them on the 14th of December.
Speaker 13
Yeah, I was just looking at the schedule, too. You took ass whipping on both of them, but don't worry about it.
Oh, Joe.
Speaker 13 Joe, hours after the Colts acquired Sauce Gardner, the team announced that Gardner would continue to wear his number one with his new team. Josh Downs were number two.
Speaker 13
His brother, Caleb, plays for Ohio State. He also wears that number.
The wide receiver said it was just a little small bit of negotiating between the sides. The jersey number handoff.
Speaker 13
Yeah, just a little friendly transaction, man. Downs said, new teammate wanted to to make it easy on him.
We appreciate him being here. I know he's been number one, and I know that number means a lot.
Speaker 13 Ocho, Joe, how much do you think
Speaker 13 Sauce had to pay to get that number? I mean, hey, for one, Joe, I mean, listen, we, hey, we talk about Sauce Gardner, huh? You hear me?
Speaker 13
We talk about a number that resonates with the individual with the New York Jets. 50K at least.
Nah, he ain't had 50K at least. Nah, heck.
Speaker 13
If I'm Josh Downs, I ain't really doing him like that. I'm not doing just off of respecting who you, you know, you, that boy.
Yeah, this ain't no just though, anybody.
Speaker 13 Now, if it just knows, it's some it's no regular 50K.
Speaker 13 Okay, now we talking. You think y'all think
Speaker 13 yeah, 50k with a with the kind of money we making, Joe? With the kind
Speaker 13
the kind of money we making, it's okay. 50k ain't bad.
Hey, you hit me here, 50k ain't bad. That's that's a good number, huh? Now, that
Speaker 13
I can go with that. 50K, that's a lot, man.
Listen, I know,
Speaker 13 listen, I know cats in the NBA, man, who had, who,
Speaker 13 you know, exchanged numbers and they may pay like 10, 15K, but it wasn't no 25, 30, 20. Oh, yeah, it's coming.
Speaker 13 Oh, yeah. That's a good number, Joe.
Speaker 13
We got to get sauce on here to see and see what that transaction was. I don't think he paid no 50K now.
Hey, he don't want a number then. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 13 Hey, Joe,
Speaker 13 because you like jokes in the NFL, the way it works now, if you change numbers and you don't give the NFL a whole offseason to get all that, because they'll stop you.
Speaker 13 You got to pay for you have to pay for all the number two ones that got your name on the back of them that's in that's been printed.
Speaker 13 Yeah, you know, but look, but but what if Downs was just being a great teammate?
Speaker 13 Yeah, he took he probably he took a little, you know, he took he took a payment from it, but maybe he just wanted to get sauce that name. 50K, that's being a great teammate.
Speaker 13 If I was an asshole, it cost you 150.
Speaker 13 Hey, I'm gonna ask him.
Speaker 13 Hey, hey,
Speaker 13 I'm curious. That's a good question, Especially
Speaker 13 today's day and age, when I think about the 50K, I remember, hell,
Speaker 13 when I went to the goddamn Patriots to get 85, I had to pay Aaron Hernandez. What'd you pay?
Speaker 13 I had to pay, oh, number 25, it was number 25,000. You know what I mean?
Speaker 13 Think about how long ago that's been, Joe.
Speaker 13
Yeah, that was, oh, that was, that was 15 years ago, Joe. Yeah.
And Aaron was like, what I'm saying is,
Speaker 13 Aaron Hernandez probably, he probably wanted, he probably wanted his paper. I'm saying Downs was probably willing to give up that one to go.
Speaker 13 Not with somebody.
Speaker 13 Depending on who it is, depending on who it is,
Speaker 13
it's a respecting. Oh, this sauce.
I know the number one resonates with everything he's about based on who he is and all that, but this is by business. Yeah, that's
Speaker 13 the NFL.
Speaker 13
This is my business. I need me some money.
I got to make something off of this.
Speaker 13 So I know Josh Down probably, I'd say maybe 50.
Speaker 13 I bet yeah
Speaker 13 what is it man let me be in Atlanta had that number two hey hey Joe you want that number two
Speaker 13 yeah
Speaker 13 hey you know hey Joe man I saw this what you call about like man they got this uh
Speaker 13 uh uh uh what they call it
Speaker 13 that uh
Speaker 13 that uh uh that pickup that forward pickup
Speaker 13 That Shelby yeah yeah that shelby hey they got one up there they go to get that shelby for you boy the one with with the black, with the gray stripe down the middle, Joe.
Speaker 13
Man. Shelby.
Are you talking about like from the movie going to 60 Seconds? Yeah. Yeah, but it's a pickup truck.
Oh, oh, oh, a truck. Okay, my bad.
You talk about you.
Speaker 13 Yeah, well, they got a Shelby, but that was Eleanor. That must have been an Eleanor.
Speaker 13 Shelby, Carol, rest your soul, Carol Shelby. Those cars, you talk about three, five, seven million dollars.
Speaker 13 Wait, what? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh,
Speaker 13 man. The original Carol Shelby? Oh, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 13 Rewind for me real quick and give me a better understanding. How's a car,
Speaker 13
what is what, for 60s, 1960, what year? Yeah, 60s. How can a car in the 60s, made in the 60s, now be worth five or seven million dollars? Restore it.
They ain't made no more of them.
Speaker 13 Some of them best if they left alone
Speaker 13
because those cars were made for racing. Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
So think about it, Ocho. The thing is, anytime they're not making more of something, it's really valuable.
Speaker 13
That's That's why the Mona Lisa is so valuable. That's why those original Declaration of Independence that Mr.
Ersain's of trust is getting ready to sell.
Speaker 13
He has an original copy of the Declaration of Independence. Damn.
They have like 200 of them. Original? Original.
He got one of the original copies of not a copy, the original copies.
Speaker 13
Hey, what's up? He got Prince Guitar. He got Grateful Dead.
He got Jimi Hendrix. He got Eric Clapton.
Speaker 13
He got a a Jimi Hendrix guitar and they're going to sell it. Yeah, they sell a lot of that stuff.
Yeah. Yeah, boy.
They're going to get a pretty penny for that.
Speaker 13
That was his passion collecting. Okay.
That wasn't their passion collecting. Right.
Okay. Oh, my bad.
My bad. So let, and he, that was, that, and that's what he said.
He's like, look, I understand.
Speaker 13
It's only here because I'm here. When I'm gone, let somebody else enjoy it.
Right.
Speaker 13
So, yeah, I totally get that. But I get it.
Look, look, that one,
Speaker 13
I mean, it wouldn't even look like Sauce being in another number. Nah, it wouldn't.
It wouldn't. It wouldn't.
It just, other players can leave team and change numbers, and you don't blink an eye.
Speaker 13 You don't bat an eye. A player like Lamar.
Speaker 13 Yeah, he can't be number one.
Speaker 13 A Jamar Chase,
Speaker 13 a Sauce. I mean, where the number
Speaker 13
is a representative of who they are. And when you see that number, that's what you think about.
Yeah. You see the Broncos did.
Speaker 13 They talked to the Trapuca family. They took 18 out.
Speaker 13
18, nobody had warned them 18. Right.
That's what Peyton was like, yes.
Speaker 13 I mean, can you imagine Peyton Manning on another number that's not 18? Yeah, it wouldn't make sense. Can you see Tom Brady in another number that's not 12?
Speaker 13 It wouldn't make sense. No,
Speaker 13 I can't. So,
Speaker 13 matter of fact, hey, Joe, can you imagine Ocho Cinco in another number that wasn't 85?
Speaker 13
No, I can't. I can't imagine.
Yeah, see, AJ,
Speaker 13 it just don't make no sense. Well, you can't be Ocho Sinco if you got on 83.
Speaker 13 Ocho Trace.
Speaker 13 So
Speaker 13 you had to get that Ojo. Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 13 Ocho, they'll get you because you pay top dollar for that 85.
Speaker 13 Listen, Aaron Hernandez, when I got New England,
Speaker 13 he showed love.
Speaker 13
He showed love. He said, normally, if it wasn't you, you know, I'm going to hit you across the head.
But because it's you.
Speaker 13
He meant that literally too, though. Huh? He meant that literally too, though.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But see, I mean,
Speaker 13 if you, see, y'all, y'all not, y'all not on this end. But if you, if you knew him, if you knew him and how he was moving, like, stuff like that just doesn't occur because you're in the NFL.
Speaker 13
That's stuff that's been. Oh, he's been that.
Yeah, that's, that's, that's, that's old. A lot of people try to, a lot of people try to get away from that.
Nah, he ran back to it.
Speaker 13
But let me take that back. He never left it.
Right. See, and that's the problem.
That's where most of the time you got to have someone else with the brains around you.
Speaker 13
When you're the golden goose, and the golden goose rather rather try to stay to being real, someone else has to step in. Nah, man, you good.
We don't need you to be real.
Speaker 13 You done with this lifestyle.
Speaker 13
You know, but hey, hey, it takes a village, young. It takes a village.
And when you got the right people around you, you know, you'll be all right.
Speaker 13 That's the most important thing, having the right people around you. So stuff like that doesn't happen.
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Speaker 13
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Speaker 13 But Jared Jones kept this big trade promise, acquiring Pro Bo defensive tackle Quinn Williams from the Jets and linebacker Logan Wilson from the Bengal. Jets gave up a 2027 first-round pick, a
Speaker 13
2026 second-round pick, and defensive tackle Mozzie Smith. The Jets acquired Williams.
Dallas also acquired Logan Wilson from the Bengals in exchange for a seventh-round pick.
Speaker 13 How much better did the Cowboys get, Ocho and Joe, with those additions, Quinn Williams and Logan Wilson?
Speaker 13
Hey, I think we got better. I mean, we've been struggling on the defensive side.
I'm sure y'all know that.
Speaker 13
And you ain't had to bring that up neither, what happened on Monday night. We could have left that alone.
You understand? But I'm on here repping tonight. You know, I got my Cowboy starter jacket on.
Speaker 13
Hey, we got a new start, baby. It's time for us to, you know, buckle down and see what we can do in the second half of the season.
I'm excited about the new additions, man.
Speaker 13 Let's see if we can stream some wins together.
Speaker 13 I don't think that's probably not likely, but I understand. Look, Look, I mean, not a whole lot of teams.
Speaker 13
If you're 3-5-1, Joe, at this point in the season, normally a whole lot of 3-5-1 teams aren't giving up first and second-round picks. They're trying to unload.
They're not trying to acquire.
Speaker 13 And so it's odd. You know, Jerry must believe.
Speaker 13 I guess that means that he doesn't believe in Mozzie Smith. Mozzie Smith was a former first-round draft pick.
Speaker 13
Jerry doing all the picking. You know, Jerry say, can't nobody do a better job than him.
Well, I mean, y'all understand that. Y'all know he running that shit.
Hey, he's running that ship over there.
Speaker 13
He's going to run it how he wanted to be running. With an iron fist.
Yeah, you already know.
Speaker 13 They have a 7% chance, Joe, of reaching the playoffs according to ESPN
Speaker 13 Football Power Index. Quinny Williams, four years, $96 million.
Speaker 13
That he signed in 2023 with a total of $66 million guaranteed. The contract runs through 2027.
The Cowboys are now responsible for the remaining payments after they're acquiring him.
Speaker 13 The problem is, he really doesn't have a whole lot of guaranteed money on that contract. So, you know what that means, Joe? What's that? He's going to want another contract.
Speaker 13 Hey, look, now you got Quinny Williams on the books, 20 million.
Speaker 13 You got Kenny Clark on the contract, 20 million.
Speaker 13 You got a Diggy Zua on the contract, 20 million.
Speaker 13 You got a cornerback on the contract, 23 million. You got another DB Ocho,
Speaker 13
Diggs, 19 million. You got Dak, 60 million.
CeeDee Lamb, 34 million. You got George Pinkins going to want $34, $35 million.
Speaker 13 And you just signed those two offensive linemen. Ocho, something got to give.
Speaker 13 Something is going to give.
Speaker 13 Them goddamn trades don't do nothing. That ain't nothing but decoration.
Speaker 13 Listen. Come on, Joe.
Speaker 13 Don't play like that.
Speaker 13
That would Jerry just want to be a part of the circus. Were everybody else making moves, well, let me make some move too.
Does it improve my defense in any way? No.
Speaker 13 No disrespect to Logan Wilson, but you're coming from a Bengals team that was ranked 32nd and going to a Cowboy team that's
Speaker 13
ranked 31st. You're playing the Bangles, but you're going to go to the goddamn Cowboys and make a goddamn difference.
The likelihood of that happening? Probably absolutely goddamn not.
Speaker 13 You got Kenny Clark. You got goddamn Quentin Williams, but you let Micah Parsons go,
Speaker 13
who is an impact player on your goddamn defense. Oh, you need to stop the run.
Well, you also need to goddamn stack the quarterback. You need to put pressure on the quarterback.
Speaker 13
Everybody's going to be able to throw the ball on you. We're in a passing league.
You need it. You need a defense in
Speaker 13
on the outside to be able to get to the quarterback. Stopping the run.
Eh, you got Kenny Clark. Everybody's still been running on you, haven't they?
Speaker 13 Whoa, everybody's still running on you.
Speaker 13 Now
Speaker 13 you got Quinn Williams.
Speaker 13 Is it supposed to be that much of a difference? Is it supposed to be that much of a difference?
Speaker 13 You will absolutely see, probably not. But what the Cowboys need to do, if I'm Dak, I'm calling the players-only beating only for the offense, only for the offense.
Speaker 13 And I'm going to let them know, hey, listen, in order for us to win, in order for us to win, in order for us to compete week in and week out, we have to raise our level of play.
Speaker 13
We can't have no mistakes. George Pickens, I need you to play all hell out.
CeeDee Lamb, I need you to play all out. Jake Ferguson, don't fumble the ball.
Speaker 13 Brother Williams, hold on to the ball because we don't have the type of defense where we can overcome turnovers in games. I need y'all boys locked in.
Speaker 13
We're three and five with a seven percent chance to make the goddamn playoffs. I think we can do it.
This is just me. This is just me hypothetically being Dak.
Speaker 13 Listen,
Speaker 13 man,
Speaker 13 they ain't doing nothing on.
Speaker 13 Hey, Joe,
Speaker 13
hey, Joe, you are you about delusional as all the goddamn oh Joe, oh Joe, oh Joe, so you're a fan, so you expect delusion. Slow down, slow down, turbo.
Slow down, slow down.
Speaker 13 Listen, sometimes, sometimes all you need is a fresh start, man. Look, at least we got a chance to even make the playoffs, all right?
Speaker 13 You know, we got a fighting chance.
Speaker 13
Joe, let me give you, Joe, let me give you, let me give you your next six games. Oh, I seen it.
At the Raiders. Eagles at home.
Kansas City at home. At Lions.
Vikings at home. Chargers at home.
Speaker 13 Joe, what you think about that, Joe?
Speaker 13
Hey, that's a tough slate. That's a tough slate.
But But listen, I think we can handle it, man. I think we can handle it.
Hey, look, one game at a time, Ocho.
Speaker 13 Y'all looking, y'all looking, man, we can't. That's how y'all got to be three, five, and one, losing one game at a time.
Speaker 13 Y'all didn't lose. Hey, Ocho, they didn't lose all five of them at one time.
Speaker 13
One game at a time. Hey, look, look.
Hey, look.
Speaker 13
I know Uncle's feeling good on Monday. I'm glad I wasn't over here with y'all.
Boy, look, that was embarrassing. Oh, man.
Hey,
Speaker 13 hey, look, could just you could just see it that d i mean your best corner got cooked yeah
Speaker 13 i mean he got cooked that's your best corner that is your best that is your best defense as a matter of fact all things being equal he's supposed to be your best defensive player because guess what he's the only player on your defense that's been to the pro bowl so what's he supposed to be ocho your best player you got rid of micah digs is out he's supposed to be your best player your linebacker your linebackers are terrible
Speaker 13
He out there like a blind dog in a meeting. Hey, running around.
They know somebody got the ball. They just can't see him in Jacqueline.
Speaker 13
Hey, Uncle Joe. I mean, both of y'all know about fashion, Uncle.
And you know, when you put your clothes on, you always got to have a statement piece.
Speaker 13 When you have a goddamn defense, you always have to have a statement piece. Most of the time, your statement piece, you want to be a defense in and you want to be,
Speaker 13 excuse me, you want to be a defense in and you want to be somebody on the back end.
Speaker 13 There has to be a statement piece in either at the third level, the first level, at the second level, ah, it's a toss-up. You You don't have to be a superstar
Speaker 13
unless you're a goddamn Fred Warner. Unless you're Fred Warner, you know, but the Cowboys have nothing of that magnitude.
Nothing, nothing on that defense that can change and impact the game at all.
Speaker 13 They just have, I mean no disrespect, just guys.
Speaker 13 They just have guys.
Speaker 13 Therefore,
Speaker 13
their identity is on the offensive side of the ball. And everybody on the offensive side of the ball has to bring that, you know what, up a notch.
They have to.
Speaker 13
In order to dig themselves out this hole, they have to damn near play almost mistake-free football. True.
Can't turn it over.
Speaker 13
Nah, hey. No, no.
No, not when your defense is that bad. We saw Cincinnati.
They had two receivers over 100 yards. A quarterback that got 470 yards.
He got four touchdowns. Buddy, you turn it over.
Speaker 13
Because your defense can't stop anybody. So you turn it over, you take points off the board.
You might as well put three to seven on the board for them because your defense can't stop them. Right.
Speaker 13
Because Cincinnati ain't even got a chance. I mean, wait, we got the same chance y'all got.
What you talking about? Y'all got the same chances.
Speaker 13
We got the exact same chance y'all got, the exact same one. And listen, for us, it's our offense.
It's the same conversation.
Speaker 13 If Dak was the call, the player only's meeting for the offense, Joe Flackham go have that same conversation over here with us. Oh, so y'all can't stop nobody? But, but,
Speaker 13 Joe, we scoring 30, 38, 40 a game. All right.
Speaker 13
Y'all putting them up, but the teams out playing scoring 45.50 at night. That wasn't necessary.
I didn't need you to bring that part up. I'm just telling you what we're doing.
Speaker 13 I'm just reiterating. Oh, Joe.
Speaker 13 Does he realize that
Speaker 13 y'all talking to each other? Y'all neighbors.
Speaker 13 Y'all 131, the other 32. Y'all living the same network, Joe.
Speaker 13
I don't know why, Joe. I don't know why Joe thinks he hots the Diddy, OJo.
It's all good. It's all good.
Speaker 13 Y'all neighbors, 131, 132. But look, this is Jay.
Speaker 13 I don't know
Speaker 13 having played in the league, league, having been around the league, I can't honestly say, I don't know if I've ever seen a team that's this deep into the season, that's only won three games, that gives up a first-round draft pick.
Speaker 13 Normally you're unloading those guys, Ocho, trying to get capital in so you can build like, we're not one player away. Jerry said, we're not one player away.
Speaker 13 But you trade a first-round draft pick on a...
Speaker 13
If you're, let's just say you're 7-2-1. Let's just say you're 8-2.
Let's just say you're 6-3-1. Okay, I can kind of see that.
You're right there. You leading your division.
Bro, how,
Speaker 13 under what scenario, would you give up at 3-3 and at 3-5- and 1, would you give up a first-round, a second-round pick next year and a first-round pick in 27?
Speaker 13 Because
Speaker 13
we living in the now, we can't, we don't know what that's going to look like. Y'all suck right now.
Yeah, but I'm saying we need help right now. We need help right now.
Speaker 13 But listen the help you're bringing in ain't gonna make a difference the help you bringing in ain't gonna move the needle it's not going to do anything for you it's like a class project right you see everybody else everybody else helping with the class project everybody putting they putting their two cents and being a part of the project and jerry just so jerry just there for the extra credit You know what?
Speaker 13 I'm going to just go ahead and make some moves just to do what I always do, keep the fans excited.
Speaker 13 Yeah, that's a good people to something to talk about.
Speaker 13 Come on, Joe. You know that.
Speaker 13
Ocho. The same say we ain't got no, we ain't going no damn playoffs.
Rashid, hey, we love to have you. Hey, we're going to trade you get draft capital.
Offensive lineman, we love to have you.
Speaker 13 You saw what the Jets did. They traded their two best players.
Speaker 13 I don't.
Speaker 13
We ain't going nowhere. Ocho.
Why am I paying? Ocho.
Speaker 13
Joe, I'm not, hey, we're not going anywhere. We got two guys that's eating up 50 plus million dollars and we're going nowhere.
You know what? Let me go ahead. Right.
Speaker 13
It's like, hey, car, I got this car that's valuable. I ain't going to drive it.
I ain't going nowhere. And somebody going to offer me top dollar for it.
Speaker 13 Come on and get it. And listen, not only do they offer top dollar, what I don't like and don't understand is how you pay a player in the offseason the kind of money they pay Sauce Gardner, right?
Speaker 13 As highly viewed as he is. I know he's had some struggles, you know,
Speaker 13 so far, obviously, with me believing that defensive back obviously is equivalent to playing quarterback in the NFL, being the most difficult position to play.
Speaker 13 Probably, probably, probably a little bit. Those are the most
Speaker 13
athletic guys. Oh, yeah, yeah, most definitely.
But obviously, having to deal with these receivers running at you full speed, these elite fast receivers, it can be very difficult at times.
Speaker 13 So they're going to be ups and downs.
Speaker 13 But to let a player of that caliber go, and I just talked to you, you know, Uncle Joe, about having a statement piece, something that you can build around, something that you can lean on that can actually impact and change the defense.
Speaker 13 And I see Sauce in that light in a sense,
Speaker 13 like the Pat Sertange, not
Speaker 13 different, different types of players i'm you know you know what i mean
Speaker 13 yeah
Speaker 13 you do realize you live in a shack and you got a 30 000 a 30 a 30 000 diplomat yeah i know what you mean i know because you because you're one in seven you want to upload a joke
Speaker 13 but but but
Speaker 13 i just at least i want to be able to compete at least i want to be be able to give myself a chance like what the what the jets did today was like you know forget it we won a seven we won an eight whatever it may be you know what we getting rid of everything we having a yard sale we letting out we letting our biggest prize possessions go you know and hoping you know for the unknown i don't want to i don't i don't want to deal with the unknown i don't want to deal with the unknown how many let me ask you a question with those two players they gave up how many games did they win this year she had one
Speaker 13 let me ask you a question last year with those same two players how many games did they win you know what that's a good question they weren't very good last year either
Speaker 13 Quinny Williams been an all-pro. Saul's garden, his first two years, he was an all-pro.
Speaker 13
Yes, sir. There have been very many corners that's come in the league.
You You go back and study the history of corners. I'm talking about all these corners that's in the pro football hall of fame.
Speaker 13 They've been very few that's come in the league in their first two years have been first team all-pro, right?
Speaker 13 Not only was he first team all-pro, he was defensive player, he was defensive rookie of the year.
Speaker 13 How many times have they been in the playoffs, Ocho? With those two guys, Pro Bowl players, defensive player of the year, all-pro players, how many playoff appears they got, Ocho?
Speaker 13
Yeah, they ain't got nothing, no. They ain't got none.
So, with that being said, I can miss the playoffs and not have to pay $60, $70 million. Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 13 They're going to say, you know what, Ocho, and you know this, Joe. We're rebuilding.
Speaker 13 We're rebuilding.
Speaker 13 We ain't right now, we're not good enough to compete.
Speaker 13 So, you know what? Fuck it. We don't really want to trade Saul's.
Speaker 13 Y'all going to give us two first-rounders? So if it takes two first-rounders to get Saul's Gardner, well, you want Miles Garrett, you got to give up four first-rounders. Three.
Speaker 13
I'm just saying, Ocho. Saul's Gardner went for two first-rounders and a player.
Yeah.
Speaker 13 That man right there, Miles Garrett, is a defensive player of the year candidate every effing year. Yeah.
Speaker 13 He's going to get a, he's going to have another year with at least 14 sacks.
Speaker 13 Which he's done for the last five, six years. It's crazy work.
Speaker 13 Like I said, if I'm Miles, and I know Miles is loyal. Miles, you got your money, man.
Speaker 13 Say, bro, you want to go somewhere and get traded. Quinny,
Speaker 13 I commend Quinny.
Speaker 13 Quinny say, man, losing, just, it just, it just tough, man yeah hey yo joe he's like hey the money yeah i'm getting paid but i'm a competitor man no you ain't got to tell me i had to deal with that for years huh you hear me i bad hey listen hey i had to deal with that for years i'll take it off for yo joe yeah
Speaker 13 hey hey hey hey joe i had to deal with it for years i think i've had maybe what maybe one one one or two winner seasons so to be able to deal with that you know i had to make it fun joe I had to make it fun to come to work.
Speaker 13 I had to make Sundays fun. I had to give the fans a reason or the people watching a reason to why would we even tune into them?
Speaker 13
Well, hell, I got to see what this I got to see what this motherfucker finna do today. Because I want to do something.
Hey, Joe, Joe and Uncle, I was going to do something.
Speaker 13 I had to make that environment fun for everyone else. No, you need to make it fun.
Speaker 13 Hey, Ocho.
Speaker 13 You got to, you go home and think about, man, what about if I score a touchdown this week? What about
Speaker 13 we losing?
Speaker 13
But I'm saying, you know, that was fun for you to give the people something to come that they came to pay good money this year. Yeah, yeah.
They could, man, what Ocho gonna do?
Speaker 13 I know Ocho gonna act a fool bad play. Let Ocho get in the end zone so he could act a fool.
Speaker 13
That's what they're hoping. Yeah, man.
That's what I want to see. We're not going to win.
Hey, we ain't win, but I tell you what, I receive it entertaining. Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaker 12
Ocho, the Dolphins seem to have followed Lamar Jackson's lead in removing video games from the locker room. According to multiple reports, a poppy shot.
Damn, that's my favorite.
Speaker 12 Game once present is no longer at the team for silly, as well as ping pong tables and video games.
Speaker 12 At least we not forget the dramatic saga regarding the state of the Miami ping-pong situation in 2022. The table was first removed, then replaced, and then removed again.
Speaker 12 Center Aaron Brewer, another team captain, chimed in and added, it's not like everybody's in the locker room doing it all day.
Speaker 12 Oh, Joe, is there a difference between the Ravens situation and the Dolphins situation?
Speaker 13
There's a complete difference. The Ravens got Lamar Jackson.
The Ravens have Lamar Jackson. That's the difference.
Speaker 13 You know, you removing the table, ping-pong table, pool table, any goddamn table outside of the dolphin locker room ain't changing nothing. No,
Speaker 13
it's a cultural, it's a cultural issue in general. Had nothing to do with no goddamn papa shot or pop-tart or any of that.
Come on, man.
Speaker 12 Yeah, man. Listen,
Speaker 12 listen.
Speaker 13 Listen, all they doing is they being performative now.
Speaker 13 That's days of our lives. That's young and the restless type shit they over there doing now.
Speaker 12 Like, come on, man.
Speaker 13 Who y'all fooling, man? Come on, now.
Speaker 13 Removing it for what?
Speaker 13 Remove. Now, the Ravens who actually have a chance because Aid is back.
Speaker 13 If Aid say, listen, we need to lock in, and this is what I need us to do to make sure we take care of our business each and every Sunday, especially when we come out, come out this bye.
Speaker 13
This is what we need to do. And so be it.
When they came out the buy, what did they look like against the Dolphins?
Speaker 13 All right. Come on, the Dolphins doing that.
Speaker 13 When they have no chance, they fourth in the afce east like come on what what we talking about we being performative yeah that's a broadway show
Speaker 13 come on man stop playing that's no that's my that's my that's my team
Speaker 12 but the difference is eight put his name on it they said the dolphins they just removed it who had it removed was it mc daniels was it what well who who was stephen ross said get those out of here who did that
Speaker 12 lamar jacket i yeah i told him said hey i went to him and said, Look, ping-pong table, blah, blah, blah, everything else. Hey, hell, I was thinking about getting the Wi-Fi out here.
Speaker 12 You don't need no Wi-Fi. You in the building, hey.
Speaker 13 Hey, hey, nah, hey, nah. Now, see, that hey, that's going a little too far right there.
Speaker 12 You don't need no Wi-Fi.
Speaker 12 You operate just fine without it. You in the building.
Speaker 13 Hey, hell no.
Speaker 13 Hey, that Wi-Fi would hurt, though.
Speaker 12 But yeah, I think the thing is, is that, you know, it's, oh, Joe, it's a copycat league. I mean, hey,
Speaker 12 you try to, hey, you see somebody having success doing something one way, guess what? Boom.
Speaker 13
Hey, you know what? Honestly, the success ain't got nothing to do with that pop of shot. No.
The success comes with executing your offense. That's all it.
That's all it is.
Speaker 13 The success comes with making the tackles.
Speaker 12 Yes.
Speaker 13 Man,
Speaker 13 I'm just speaking to my dolphin because I've been watching him. It's been an abysmal year for us.
Speaker 13 Quarterback, quarterback play, inconsistency at receiver,
Speaker 13 defense
Speaker 13 at the bottom of the league, and damn near every category statistically. I mean, that ain't got nothing to do with no damn papa shot.
Speaker 12 The thing is, Ojo, you just got to own it, though. You put your name on it, you tag it and say, I did it.
Speaker 12 and that's the end of it but i don't think i don't think it's gonna have the same impact uh
Speaker 12 teams i've been on look mike
Speaker 12 bro
Speaker 12 winning is fun
Speaker 12
losing isn't fun so if you're still having fun while we losing that's a problem Why are you having fun while we losing? Oh, we got poppy shot. Oh, we got a ping pong.
Oh, we got poo.
Speaker 12
We got video game. We'll get it out here.
Because I want you to be miserable.
Speaker 12 I've always been a sore loser, Ocho. I've always, when I lost, I don't want to talk.
Speaker 12 What we key, key, keying about, Ocho? What we laughing about?
Speaker 13 Ain't nothing to laugh about.
Speaker 12 Hell, ain't nothing funny.
Speaker 12 So
Speaker 12 I never had a problem.
Speaker 12 I'll be like all the time, like, I sure wish Mike cut out this food. I showed
Speaker 12 no food.
Speaker 12
Yeah, I'll be over. Hey, because I be wanting people to, hey, Ocho, I be wanting people to feel like I feel.
I'm miserable. I want everybody to feel like I feel.
Speaker 13 Hey, not the food. Not the food, huh?
Speaker 12 Man, why you, I'm like, why are we?
Speaker 12 Why are we eating?
Speaker 12
It ain't like it is now, Ojo. Because you know now the training tables, you get what you want.
You want salmon. You want a certain type of fish.
Hey, nice. Vegetarian.
I mean, they, they, hey.
Speaker 12
turkey bacon, turkey sausage, chicken bacon, chicken sausage. You want pancake, you want waffles, you want whatever.
They do all of that. We have it like that.
Speaker 12 But I'm just saying, like, nah, hell nah. Take that food out of here.
Speaker 13 Well, you want everybody to starve, huh?
Speaker 12 Yeah.
Speaker 12 Yeah.
Speaker 12 Bring your own food.
Speaker 12 That man feed. Hey, man, he's feeding us and giving us that man, please.
Speaker 12 I ain't got.
Speaker 12
Jacksonville. Oh, yo, I don't.
No, I'm cool. I'm cool.
Like I said, Dan did that. We would lose.
I think we, man, we lost. I don't know how many games in a row we lost.
Speaker 13
Hey, hold on. Hey, I'm still, I'm still, I'm still stuck on that.
Because y'all losing, you want everybody to be miserable. So do away with the food.
Speaker 12
Yep, don't eat. No game, no food.
You want your food? Go get in your car. Get in your car and drive up there and get fast food or whatever you want to eat.
But I ain't feeding you.
Speaker 12 I ain't feeding you.
Speaker 12 Hell no.
Speaker 13 Hey.
Speaker 13 Hey.
Speaker 12 That's why I say I'm no, I'm not. I'm not.
Speaker 12 I'm not. Look,
Speaker 12
I like to think I was a really good teammate. I worked hard.
I tried to be encouraging as possible, but I did not take, I did not take losing kindly. I did not take guys bull driving kindly.
So
Speaker 12 I'm one of those guys, hey,
Speaker 12 a lot of times they ask me, say, you know, they might ask me what I thought. I'm like, you don't want to know what I think.
Speaker 12 I say, hey,
Speaker 12 I ain't got nothing to say. I just keep it moving.
Speaker 12 No.
Speaker 13 Hold on, I'm thinking about actually taking the food.
Speaker 12 Oh, yeah, for sure. No, you ain't getting no food? Fuck no.
Speaker 12 I got to understand you.
Speaker 12 And to be okay, hey, oh, I was, hey, man.
Speaker 12
You let me come in that locker room. Let me look.
We got to get to this. You know, I lost a couple of games and somebody in there shooting poppy shot.
Man, please.
Speaker 12 Bad, oh, yo, bad, please.
Speaker 12 They all
Speaker 12 laughing, talking loud.
Speaker 12 Hey.
Speaker 12 Hey,
Speaker 12 hey, hold on Joe.
Speaker 12 Hey, and you next to me, clean your damn locker up too while you're at it.
Speaker 13 I'm just imagining
Speaker 13 us going there for lunch and it ain't no food. Ain't none.
Speaker 13 And the reason it ain't no food is because we losing.
Speaker 12 Yes.
Speaker 13 Hey, boy, niggas are raised hell in that goddamn locker room, boy.
Speaker 12
Raise them on the field like you mad now? Get mad on the field with that kicking our ass. Get mad at them like you, mad.
You ain't got no food in this cafeteria.
Speaker 12 Man, please,
Speaker 12 bad.
Speaker 12 I worked too hard, I pushed too much time in here to come out there and bulljive around. And everybody, kiki, ki,
Speaker 12 dad, no, oh, I was the reason them phones on the wall.
Speaker 12 I was the reason.
Speaker 13 No.
Speaker 12 Every time I come in there, Ocho, Ocho, hey,
Speaker 12 we get a meeting. All the phones take, all the phones take it, Ocho.
Speaker 12 Hey, I walk, who you talking to?
Speaker 12 If you don't say your mama, click.
Speaker 12 Who you talking to? Click.
Speaker 12 Who you talking to? Click.
Speaker 12 That's why, see, now
Speaker 12 you wonder why you ain't playing. This is why you're not playing.
Speaker 12 This right here.
Speaker 12 Soon you get a break, instead of getting in your playbook, you run your ass and jump on the phone.
Speaker 12 Hey, what's up, girl? What you doing?
Speaker 12 She know what you doing. Your fucking ass at work.
Speaker 12 Please.
Speaker 13 Oh, shit. Hell no.
Speaker 13 Hell no.
Speaker 12 Like I said, man,
Speaker 12 I didn't do, I win. I didn't do well.
Speaker 12 I got a lot of butt whippings because
Speaker 12
I didn't like to win. My brother would beat me and I'd take the ball.
I'd throw it in the hog pen. I throw it in the woods.
Speaker 12 He come in the house. Granny, Shanna threw that ball in the pen with the hogs.
Speaker 13 Hell nah.
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