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Speaker 13 Now, joining us is Ravens tight end drafted in the fourth round out of Coastal Carolina the Chanticleers. Here he is, Isaiah likely.

Speaker 13 What's happening? What's up? What's up, Brad?

Speaker 14 Man, just chilling, man.

Speaker 13 Man, y'all went down. Y'all went down and took care of business like you guys were supposed to.
You beat the Bears

Speaker 13 with Hunt, and then you get Lamar comes back for the Dolphins. And this is how

Speaker 13 I'm thinking, This is what you thought you guys were going to look like when you came into the season. Not the previous six games, but this is how we're supposed to play.

Speaker 14 Nah, for sure. And I mean, I feel like that was just, you know, just everybody just getting a reset after the bye week.

Speaker 14 I mean, everybody knew, you know, back against the wall going into the bye week, what we put ourselves into.

Speaker 14 So coming out the bye week, we had to just tell everybody, you know, it's a new season and let's just be who we are.

Speaker 13 I want to listen. I'm looking at you, and there are probably

Speaker 13 25, 26, maybe even 27 other teams. You're going to get the lions here.
You're going to start. Oh, ain't no two tights.
Ain't no eight. Ain't no this.
Ain't no that.

Speaker 13 You're going to be catching 65, 70, 80 balls. You're going to be a big part of the offense.

Speaker 13 But for you and Mark Andrews, you guys split a lot. A lot of times you guys do play a lot of double tight end sets.
But how have you been able to say, you know what? I'm going to sacrifice.

Speaker 13 This is where I am right now. This is the best situation that I'm in right now.
Let me make the

Speaker 13 most of it and not let your mind think, man, I see what Laporte is doing. I see what Hawkinson is doing.
I see what the guys doing. I can do that.

Speaker 14 For sure. I mean, that's really just, you know, just always just remaining where your feet are and understand that, you know, God don't put you in no moment, but where your feet are right now.

Speaker 14 And I feel like this, you know, the circumstance I was, you know, just drafted where I was, you know, I promised EBC, you know, when he took me, like all the other 31 teams that passed up on me, they're going to regret playing me time in and time out.

Speaker 14 You know, and that was just, you know, the model I had my whole, you know, rookie contract.

Speaker 14 And now just getting into, you know, the opportunity that I have now is just really just being that chest piece in the offense, whether I'm out wide, in the slot, in the backfield, on the line, and being able to just run all the sets that we have at the tight ends.

Speaker 15 Hey, that's dope.

Speaker 15 I mean, you guys, you know, you guys have a long way to clown yourselves out of a hole, but if you can do it, you guys have the offense to do it, especially with, especially with Lamar Jackson coming, you know, coming back, and you playing well, likely playing well.

Speaker 15 And a healthy Lamar gives you a chance to do the unthinkable, regardless of what your record may be. And I look at some of the games you have coming up.
I mean, honestly, looking at it,

Speaker 15 you got a nice slate of games, and you can win most of them. I think the most, maybe the most difficult game will probably be the Vikings.
The Browns is winnable. The Jets is winnable.

Speaker 15 Y'all probably gonna lose to the Bangles.

Speaker 13 The Bringles guaranteed win. Y'all probably gonna lose.

Speaker 13 Hey, I put all my money.

Speaker 14 i just want you at that one uh all the rest of these ones you talk about i just want you at that cincinnati game i want you there

Speaker 15 i want you there okay hey say less i'm gonna come i'm gonna come but but but honestly you know that when it outside of the division you know you guys could probably run the table i think with the viking being the most difficult game for you guys to play you know uh this upcoming sunday outside of that listen even as a bangle fan i i know a great team when i see one you know i know you guys have had your woes and and your struggles on defense, but your identity has always been your offense.

Speaker 15 And what Lamar Jackson is doing, what you're doing, what Mark Andrews is doing, the running game, Bateman Zay. So, I mean,

Speaker 15 kudos to you guys. And I wish you guys luck climbing out that hole.

Speaker 13 But I just know when it comes to November 26th, it ain't gonna come up.

Speaker 14 I just want you there. I just want you there.

Speaker 13 That's a Sunday night game. I don't know why they keep putting them sorry.

Speaker 13 What you mean? Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, slow down. You talk about sorry?

Speaker 15 Sorry. We had an 80-year-old quarterback come in and fill in for Joe Burrow, and he throw it for 700,000 yards a game.

Speaker 13 What you mean, sorry? And you still losing.

Speaker 16 It's not about losing. It's about using

Speaker 13 us. It's about us.

Speaker 15 Listen, we want to win, but he gives us a chance to compete in these games. And we're scoring enough points.
It's just we got to get our defense to come around.

Speaker 13 That's the only problem. Man, go ahead and ask a question, Joe.
Right, right. Hey, hey, hey, hey, likely.
Hey,

Speaker 13 you know, we talk about the grind, bro.

Speaker 16 Probably, what's the hardest part of

Speaker 13 being a pro that you didn't expect?

Speaker 14 I really just say,

Speaker 14 you know, after you start making a couple of plays, it's really just like getting really like put into that limelight.

Speaker 14 Like everybody understands, like, when you, especially for me, coming from like a G5 school.

Speaker 14 where it's like, you know, you making plays and everything, you know, you kind of that guy on campus, but when you get into that big league, it's like, dang.

Speaker 14 And then when you start making plays at the big league, it's like, okay, you got to watch what you say here, or you got to take pictures everywhere, here, here, here. People start knowing your name.

Speaker 14 People start knowing like who you are around.

Speaker 14 And then it's like, oh, yeah. You could say

Speaker 14 a little teeny thing the wrong way and everybody go and spin it. And

Speaker 14 like, you just like, you want to say something tried to correct yourself, but it's like, dang, bro, I don't want to keep acting like I'm trying to egg on a situation I don't really care for.

Speaker 14 And I feel like that's like the biggest thing. probably since i got into pros where it's like you got to watch what what you say or like what you do a little a little extra

Speaker 13 Definitely.

Speaker 13 It's a lot different nowadays than when I played in the NBA, Uncle Ocho played in the NFL because we ain't have all this social media. Yeah, man.

Speaker 13 You get it, y'all exposed. Y'all are exposed to so much, bro.
Like, you know, I can understand how, you know, sometimes words may get twisted or, you know, it's just the little things.

Speaker 13 Like, any little thing you do, they're going to scrutinize it. And that's just kind of the times we're living in, you know?

Speaker 12 Yeah.

Speaker 13 Like, man,

Speaker 13 having been a raven and they have that sign up, say, play like a raven.

Speaker 13 You know, when you come in that building, there is an expectation, expectation because of the greatness that has walked the halls of those of that building.

Speaker 13 You got an Ed Reed, you got a Ray Lewis, you got a JO, you got a Suggs, you got an Ed Reed, you got Yandy, you got greatness that have played and permeated. A lot of it's on the defensive side.

Speaker 13 They don't hold out of offensive games. You got J-Lou.
Basically, you got J-Lou over Jamal Lewis

Speaker 13 and Jonathan Ogden. But you know, when you come into that building, having talked to Ozzy, having talked to Eric, of what they expect from you and what they expect once you get into that building.

Speaker 13 Talk a little bit about that.

Speaker 13 That when they drafted you and you get around and the players come back, the Ravens do a great job of bringing the old-timer, those players that played, that made that organization great.

Speaker 13 They do a great job of bringing them back.

Speaker 13 And the guys do a great job of communicating of like hey bro hey we have expectations win play hard play physical play tough talk to us a little bit about that and you being yeah for sure and i feel like you know everybody in the league understands like when you play the ravens their mantra is play like a raven that's just because you know how physical how disciplined and how hard they're gonna play snap in snap out but i feel like the first like

Speaker 14 Really wake up I had was Rookie Minicamp on my rookie year where it was like we got in there and they was already preaching play like a raven You, you run around, you

Speaker 14 I'll say like rookie mini camp, you get so many plays at one time, you just try not to mess up.

Speaker 14 So, you over here kind of like trying to go 60, trying to see like on the other side, they run the right concept, trying to see.

Speaker 14 And like, the first thing that they told us was, like, if you're wrong, fly around. And I was like, hey, whoa, hold on, like, hold on.

Speaker 14 They were like, nah, like, if you wrong, we'll, we'll clean it up later. Play physical, play fast, and like, well, we'll, we'll clean them uh little details later.

Speaker 14 So I'll say, like, you know, just going into that mindset of understanding that, like, now, like, when I'm in the building, you was expected to know your job and you expected to win games and win your 111.

Speaker 14 I feel like that's just the biggest thing that they tell you while you're in the building is when you're 111. And that's everybody's mantra while you're in the building.

Speaker 14 Like, don't let your player make the play.

Speaker 14 Don't allow yourself to get stopped by the player in front of you.

Speaker 13 Man, you got, I mean, look, Coastal Carolina, a lot of people don't know about the Chanticleers, but you had Josh Norman went to Coastal Carolina, Melissa Jefferson Wooden,

Speaker 13 Coastal Carolina.

Speaker 13 Y'all got some little stay up coming out of Coastal.

Speaker 13 Hold on, don't. We know

Speaker 15 a fellow receiver that played with me in Cincinnati, Jerome Simpson.

Speaker 13 You remember Jerome Simpson?

Speaker 15 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Oh, he did that.

Speaker 14 Yeah, that was the one that did the same thing.

Speaker 13 So in the end zone, yeah.

Speaker 15 Yeah, McDog, when Dog went there, yeah.

Speaker 13 Man, y'all put some, hey, y'all put some pussy

Speaker 13 in Coastal Carolina. What y'all got down there?

Speaker 14 Man, I'm Ty Tell, bro.

Speaker 14 When I tell you, my junior year, 2020, COVID, that's probably like when we started, like, really like putting the world on notice that like a G5 team could really come up in here.

Speaker 14 Obviously, Cincinnati had made the playoffs, but like we was like one of those teams that beat, we beat BYU that year. We had a good game at state.
We beat at state that year.

Speaker 14 And like we like, we started picking up games, picking up steam. I mean, we had a great quarterback and Grayson McCall.
We had a great defense.

Speaker 14 We got about two other players in the league right now that's playing currently. CJ Brewer and Teron Jackson on teams.

Speaker 14 And I feel like, you know, just, you know, that mantra that we had, like, always understand that we're going to be the underdogs and what you're going to do about it.

Speaker 14 And from that aspect, it was just like every game was going to be, you know, a dog fight. And we wasn't expected to win a lot of games.

Speaker 14 So just going in there and showing the world that, like, you're going to have to put us above somebody at some point.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 13 What's it like playing with Lamar? Having played with a great quarterback, a guy that's in the pro football hall of fame, do you ever just get in the awe and just be like, how that motherfucker?

Speaker 14 Hey, nah, I'm not going to lie. There's sometimes like my coaches tell me on film, especially at like my rookie year, second year, where I was like,

Speaker 14 you don't really understand the scramble part, like the two-play quarterbacks. Sometimes you'll get lost watching Lamar back there, you know, get out of sacks and get out of situations.

Speaker 14 And he yelling at you, like trying to move you around because he's trying to make time.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Get over.

Speaker 14 Like, I say, like, a big instance was the Cincinnati, like my Cincinnati touchdown where he...

Speaker 14 where he stiff armed Sam Hubbard. Like he had from a snap.

Speaker 13 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 14 Like a lot of people don't know. Like he's the one yelling at me, pointing.
Like before he threw the touchdown, he like yelling at me, trying to tell me to go to the other side.

Speaker 14 I'm just in the back of the end zone tired because we're in tempo offense. I'm just in the back of the end zone, just throwing my hand up, like, hey, bro, I don't feel like moving.

Speaker 14 Just throw it right here, bro. And he like screaming, like, no, bro.
Like, I did all this work. You gonna move, bro.
Like, move, go the other way. Yeah.

Speaker 14 So, like, I'll say, like, that it's just like, you know, it's crazy because you'll see him do it in practice and you'll be like, man, like, ain't no way.

Speaker 14 Like, he just gets out here on Sundays and do the same thing. But, like, at this point, it's just like,

Speaker 14 man, he's going to do it. So, you might as well get open.

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Speaker 15 Hey, the funny thing about it, I.L.

Speaker 15 is being down here in Miami, you know, being able to watch Lamar Jackson back in the day and see what he's doing in the NFL and it to look exactly like it did in high school

Speaker 15 when he was at Boyden Beach.

Speaker 15 I used to go watch him play all the time because, you know, you hear the names about the star players down here in high school.

Speaker 15 And the first thing you want to do is, man, let me go see what all this talk is about.

Speaker 15 And, bro, he was everything back then and he's still everything he was he was advertised to be you know especially now so to be able to see what he's doing right now man is it's unbelievable um

Speaker 15 is it i mean it's dope it's dope and again for you guys you guys have a great chance

Speaker 15 y'all could have y'all could have had one game one one y'all could have been y'all could have been a goddamn jess

Speaker 15 i'm gonna say that y'all could have been a goddamn jess and if if lamar jackson is coming back and he's healthy y'all got a goddamn chance that's just how good he is.

Speaker 15 That's just how much of an impact player he is. So I'm excited for y'all.

Speaker 15 I don't want y'all to beat us, but outside of that, I wish I wasn't. We're gonna beat y'all.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 13 We gonna beat y'all. We, you a Bronco.
You, you are a Bronco. First of all, you are all.
I know

Speaker 13 I'm a piece of that first person that's in the building.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Hey, you heard what you said? You, you are a piece.

Speaker 13 You were there for a small time. It was, you know, I was there for two years.
Oh, yo, damn.

Speaker 15 Uncle that wasn'thing but a one-night stand. Like, come on, man.

Speaker 13 also i thought i thought

Speaker 13 hold on there was a lot made last week all teams have gaming all teams have ping pong pool tables they play cards they play mad they play card

Speaker 13 and all of a sudden you go to the game room ain't ish up ain't no pool table ain't no ping pong table ain't no video games so you're like man

Speaker 13 Man, where I gave that? Where that ping-pong table? Where that pool table? Who took that ish out of there? Oh, yeah, good. We

Speaker 14 Nah, that's crazy. It's a crazy story because what's crazy is we all play like pig on the little basketball hoop before practice just to like get

Speaker 14 just to get chemistry going, just everybody get, you know, legs moving, everybody gets talking around.

Speaker 14 And then like, like, L, I'll say like one thing about L's, he don't shy away from nothing. So like, he was like, hey, we lose this game, ain't nothing going to be in here.
I might turn the Wi-Fi off.

Speaker 14 Like the Wi-Fi might be cut. You know, the iPad, you can use the iPad without the Wi-Fi as long as you're in that building.
So he was like, Hey,

Speaker 14 I'm telling y'all. So we had ended up, you know, falling short to KC.

Speaker 14 Sure enough, everything out of there. Ain't nothing in there.
Wi-Fi still on, though. But he was like, Yeah, we came up in there.
He's like, Yeah, like I wasn't playing. Ain't nothing in here.

Speaker 14 We're going to start winning a couple. We're going to win some games and I'll think about it.
He even says it's going to get back. He said, I'll think about it.
I'll let y'all know.

Speaker 13 Damn.

Speaker 14 That's the type of, yeah, that's fun.

Speaker 13 Winning is fun. Losing ain't no fun.
So what hell you playing for? I'm trying to tell you. What are you excited about? Nah, hell no.

Speaker 13 And

Speaker 13 L Jack knows that the ultimate goal for y'all is to win a Super Bowl, bro. Yeah.
This Super Bowl of bust. So he knows distractions need to be limited.
So

Speaker 13 I commend him on that. That was big time.
Y'all got to lock in. So, hey, look,

Speaker 13 if y'all lose a couple more games now, he probably gonna pick the five pounds. So y'all better get it.

Speaker 14 We ain't got no more to give. We didn't.
Hey, everybody got there.

Speaker 14 That's all we we had to give hey

Speaker 14 is there tell us about the 17th annual jimmy's famous seafood talks for toys uh toys for talk gala your host and you know just to give back to the kids i mean it's always you know a blessing to be in the position you are to you know have younger kids look up to you like a superhero i mean i remember when i was younger the ultimate goal was to you know get to where uh where i am now so you know seeing kids you know that might not have it, you know, might be looking forward to it next year, just being able to, you know, have, be able to give it to them this year, be able to look in their eyes, take pictures, sign autographs, be able to spend a little time with them, you know, just to make they make their Christmas.

Speaker 14 Because I remember, you know, some Christmases where you didn't get everything you wanted, but if I can give a kid, you know, something, you know, a smile, a something, or oh my God,

Speaker 14 there's a Ravens player. I mean, that's that's just a blessing in disguise for real.

Speaker 13 Oh, yeah. Everything you wanted.
Hell, there's some Christmas. You get anything you wanted.
Man.

Speaker 13 Hey, look at who took over my

Speaker 13 Halloween party. Did y'all do a Halloween party anymore?

Speaker 14 What I record was, what I record is.

Speaker 13 Oh,

Speaker 14 ain't no fun. I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 14 We had last year, though.

Speaker 13 Hey,

Speaker 15 ain't nothing to celebrate over there.

Speaker 13 So, who hosted the Halloween party? Lamar?

Speaker 14 Last year. And who it was last year?

Speaker 14 I want to say Bait.

Speaker 14 I want to say Bae and another vet hosted it last year. It was lit, though.
But this year, yeah, we even, there wasn't even no

Speaker 13 after that.

Speaker 14 Yeah, it wasn't even talked about this year, uh.

Speaker 13 And I left it, I left it to them, and they kept me going. And now y'all don't cut, man.
Hey, look, like, you got to get that thing. Y'all got to have, y'all got to get that thing crunked.

Speaker 13 You got to break it.

Speaker 16 Hey, they need to worry about November 20th.

Speaker 13 First of all, y'all are looking here.

Speaker 13 Hey, hey, Lamar, tell your family you don't even got to make no turkey. Because y'all playing the turkey on the 27th.
Them bugs.

Speaker 13 All right.

Speaker 13 All right.

Speaker 13 Everybody, man, ain't nobody scared of y'all. Oh, Joe.
Hey, what you talking about? He knows that.

Speaker 15 Hey, listen. Hey, Joe, hey, listen.
It's a past happy league, right? Any team that's that's putting up 500 points,

Speaker 15 500 yards a game offensively, there's a reason to be scared.

Speaker 13 Chicago ran for damn near 300 yards on y'all. Derrick Henry might set the NFL record.
Lamar might have the most rushing yards by quarterback. They might run for 500 on y'all.
Nah, I don't know.

Speaker 13 Likely going to have three touchdowns.

Speaker 13 I guarantee I got if the raven, if the ravens don't score at least 40 points on y'all, I might come do I might, I ain't no telling what I'm liable to do.

Speaker 15 You know, I tell you what, I'll tell you what, make it light on yourself.

Speaker 13 Bet something

Speaker 13 you ain't got, no, I ain't hold up, bet something. We did.
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Speaker 13 My $100 and one up to two, man.

Speaker 13 I mean,

Speaker 13 we in a whole new season. That man, that was last season, season, bro.
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It's interest, baby.

Speaker 13 Hey, that's how I feel. We're going to get you.

Speaker 13 Like, we're going to get you out of this one. What do you guys need to do? You know, hey, look, the regular season, get yourself back into playoff contention and the big winter division.

Speaker 13 That's fine and good. But you know how you guys measure.

Speaker 13 When you got that guy that's a two-time league MVP, when you got arguably one of the top three quarterbacks in the NFL currently playing, and you have what you have offensively with King Henry got over 12,000 yards rushing and he got over 100 touchdowns.

Speaker 13 You know, you measure by what you do in the postseason. What is it going to take for the Ravens to get to another

Speaker 13 AFC championship and get to that Super Bowl? Because ultimately, that's how Lamar is going to be measured.

Speaker 13 He's got all the individual. He's been voted.
player, the number one player by the players. He's been the all-pro.
He's been an MVP. He has all the accolades.

Speaker 13 He knows ultimately that's how he's going to be be.

Speaker 14 Sure. And I'll say the first thing that we all talk about is just stop being ourselves.

Speaker 14 I mean, that's just, you know, the one thing that I can say off the top of my head that since I've been on the team, that's just what we've been doing.

Speaker 14 And I say, whether it's offense, just turning the ball over, mental mistakes, mental errors, you know, just

Speaker 14 stuff you can control and allowing the other team to just play their best game against our best game and see how that go rather than us.

Speaker 14 you know playing ourselves and playing the other team and then trying to make miracles happen and i feel like like that's just, you know, been the mantra last couple of years where it's just like, I feel like if we play, you know, our style of game, our style of game, play, you know, mistake-free football, and then just letting all of our talents, you know, offense and defense shine, I feel like it ain't a team in the NFL that can play with us.

Speaker 14 So it's just, you know, just always just harping on the little things and harping on, just stop being ourselves in the postseason.

Speaker 13 Well, man, thanks for joining us tonight, like

Speaker 13 congratulations on everything. Continued success.
Stay healthy. Yes, sir.
I want you to stay a raven, but hey,

Speaker 13 don't get your body going out. You know, 100K season out there, but he tight ends.
They catch an 80, 90, 100 balls, like, and you like, shh.

Speaker 13 We good, though.

Speaker 13 Man, continue success, man. Stay healthy, man.
Hey, y'all win that. Hey, please.
If y'all don't do that.

Speaker 13 But here's what y'all got them price on the tour. I'm trying to tell.

Speaker 14 Come to the game, too. If Ocho gonna be out there popping it, come out to the game.

Speaker 13 It's in cincinnati right no it's in baltimore nah i think

Speaker 14 whatever game whatever game prime time you and you in the bank ocho

Speaker 13 all right all right i'll be there and you hey give me a give me a sideline page i want y'all yeah

Speaker 15 i just hey listen i want to roam the sidelines of mt bank i used to own that stadium you ain't own that

Speaker 13 hey i used to own that stadium hey that was before that that was that was that was after that was after i left because cincinnati ain't run nothing.

Speaker 13 They ain't run nothing but their miles.

Speaker 13 Like, appreciate it, man. Congratulations on all the success.
Stay healthy, man. We'll see you down the road.

Speaker 13 All right. All right, man.
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Speaker 12 Oh, Joe. The Eagles added another player to their defense ahead of the NFL trade deadlines, acquiring outside linebacker Jalen Phillips from the Dolphins.

Speaker 12 Phillips, excuse me, the Dolphins will receive a 2026 third-round draft pick in the deal, while the Eagles hope to boost their struggling pass rush with the third trade in the last week.

Speaker 12 The Eagles also landed cornerbacks Michael Carter II and Jair Alexander in separate trades last week looking to bolster a defense that's currently ranked 23rd in the NFL in defense and 24th in sacks ojo

Speaker 15 what do you think this does for the Eagles I mean I think it can help it can help obviously Jair Alexander if he can show flashes of what he used to be in the past once they implement him on that defense Phillips coming in adding a little bit pressure so the back end is not exposed.

Speaker 15 Keon Michigan probably can really much so much really hold his own.

Speaker 15 But if they can get some pressure from jalen phillips and get jalen carter going i think they're gonna i think they're gonna be okay offensively we know what they can do offensively at some point probably on the back half of the season i think saquan gonna go crazy huh i don't know why i just i just have a feeling they can't keep him bottled up all season long they just can't at some point things are gonna break you just keep on chopping wood keep on chopping wood and i think the success with the run game is gonna open up the pass and the eagle will be right back in the same place they was last year.

Speaker 12 If I'm not mistaken, I think Jalen Phillips, I think he played under Fangio. Fangio used to be the DC, so he's going to be very familiar with Mac.

Speaker 12 And I think, and he had one of his best years under Fangio.

Speaker 12 But yeah, look, the one thing we know about the Eagles,

Speaker 12 they're trying to win.

Speaker 12 Them draft picks, they're fine and good. But we're in 2025.
What good is the 2026 draft pick going going to do to help me win?

Speaker 15 Nothing, not this year. We want to win.

Speaker 12 Okay, so I'm trying to win right now. So, hey,

Speaker 12 do you think that means they're out of the trade? They're out of the Miles Garrett business?

Speaker 15 Oh, absolutely. Absolutely.
Because there's no way you can get, you can't get, you can't get, well, who are they going to let go? You're not letting Jalen Carter go nowhere?

Speaker 13 Absolutely not.

Speaker 12 Hey, I give you three first rounders and

Speaker 12 a starter.

Speaker 15 Nah, it's not happening.

Speaker 12 Now, I give you three first rounders.

Speaker 12 I give you two first rounders and I let one of them D-Lineman go.

Speaker 13 No.

Speaker 12 Or I give you three first-rounders, and nobody.

Speaker 15 No, it's not happening still.

Speaker 15 It's not happening.

Speaker 15 They're just not giving, they're not letting a player of My Garrett Caliber go.

Speaker 12 You're not winning with him, Ocho. You need to rebuild.

Speaker 13 Yeah,

Speaker 15 even if you need to rebuild,

Speaker 15 you just don't.

Speaker 15 It makes no sense.

Speaker 15 Even if you're not winning with him,

Speaker 15 he is your defense. He is your identity.
He is the face of your franchise, which is normally held for the quarterback position. You're not going nowhere.

Speaker 15 Nah.

Speaker 12 You could be right. You could be right.

Speaker 12 But that doesn't mean... Ocho, tell me no.

Speaker 12 Was the candy man?

Speaker 12 Candyman. Candyman.
You have to say that three times.

Speaker 15 Hey, listen.

Speaker 15 The Browns will block block the Eagles' phone number.

Speaker 12 Well, you better change your number. I'm going to call.
Hey, give me your phone. I'm going to make a call.
I'm going to call it for A. They blocked that number.
Give me a phone.

Speaker 12 I'm going to make a call.

Speaker 15 Are you going to call from somebody else?

Speaker 12 I'm going to keep calling from a number that y'all ain't got.

Speaker 15 Right.

Speaker 12 I'm going to robo call y'all ass.

Speaker 15 Nah, they're not doing nothing. They're not doing nothing.

Speaker 12 Hey, Andrew, how you doing today? Yeah, man. It's great outside.
How the weather in Cleveland? You want to be all three first rounders? We're going to try to take miles up off your hands.

Speaker 15 Nah, we can't do it.

Speaker 15 Okay.

Speaker 15 We can't do it because

Speaker 15 ain't no first rounders.

Speaker 15 No first rounders out there that's worthy of letting Miles Garrett go.

Speaker 12 Oh Joe, you want to just hold on to the guy because it looks good or you trying to win or try to get building blocks to win?

Speaker 15 Try. You've been billing.
You've been billing for 35 years. This ain't Legos.

Speaker 12 This ain't Legos. Well, I need to keep trying.

Speaker 15 Man, please.

Speaker 13 A fool

Speaker 13 a fool

Speaker 15 it ain't happening

Speaker 15 it ain't happening

Speaker 12 i mean it's a uh hey look

Speaker 12 they got a great defense but ocho you're not winning i don't care how great your defense is with your offense like that you're not winning yeah yeah you're not you know

Speaker 12 miles garrett

Speaker 12 It doesn't matter.

Speaker 15 Yeah. Listen, you're not winning, but it gives you a chance while while you're still playing right now.

Speaker 12 It gives you a chance to do what?

Speaker 15 It just gives you a chance in general.

Speaker 15 Do what

Speaker 12 the man has five sacks and they lost by three scores. Hold on.
So, what happens when he gets one sack or two sacks?

Speaker 15 It gives you a chance to compete. Maybe not win, but it gives you a chance to compete.

Speaker 12 Compete with who?

Speaker 15 Well, the teams you play

Speaker 12 out.

Speaker 12 I mean, what you compete with, Ocho.

Speaker 12 Hey, Ocho, Ocho, think about this, Ocho.

Speaker 12 The man had five sacks. In the history of the game, nobody had lost by more than three.
Right.

Speaker 12 He lost by three scores, not three points.

Speaker 15 Points, yeah.

Speaker 15 Well, we know that. We know why that is.

Speaker 15 We know why that is. Yes.

Speaker 16 Yeah,

Speaker 15 I'm not going to down them. I'm not going to kick the team while they down, but eh.

Speaker 15 And you know what, you know, it would be one hell of a team?

Speaker 12 What?

Speaker 15 If you had the Brown defense and the Bengals offense.

Speaker 12 Well, let me ask you a question. How you going to have a $55 million quarterback, two $30 million receivers, a $40 million D-linemer, and a $20-plus million dollar corner?

Speaker 15 Listen, that's why it's a hypothetical. I'm just saying,

Speaker 15 a team like that, the Brown defense, Bengals offense, man, they might not lose a game.

Speaker 12 Well, you know you'd have to draft that. The likelihood of you drafting something like that.

Speaker 15 It's not likely.

Speaker 12 Because Because think about it. In order for you to do that,

Speaker 12 that's two number one overall draft picks. Denzel Ward was a top draft pick.

Speaker 12 What's it called? Was a top draft pick. So you're never going to be in a position to get that.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 12 Because think about it. Miles Garrett was number one.
Joe Burrow was number one.

Speaker 12 Chase was a top five pick. Ward was a top five pick.

Speaker 12 So,

Speaker 12 how are you going to be in position to get that?

Speaker 12 You won't.

Speaker 15 You won't. Just listen.
Just a little hypothetical. I'm just throwing that there.

Speaker 12 But I tell you what, I know Joe Burrow is going to get sick of this

Speaker 12 because he doesn't have a chance. He likes, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 12 I've got to play perfect.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 12 And knowing that I can't play perfect,

Speaker 12 not for 17 weeks. No.
I might have some games, Ocho, where I throw for 400 and no touchdowns and have fewer than, excuse me, and no interceptions and have fewer than 10 incompletions. Yeah.

Speaker 12 And that still might not be good enough.

Speaker 15 Nope.

Speaker 12 I've thrown for 400 and four touchdowns and we still lose.

Speaker 13 We still lost.

Speaker 15 And matter of fact, depending, I'm not sure how the rest of the season will go, but by the time we get to December, regardless of what our record is, whether we're winning or losing, I don't think Joe should come back.

Speaker 12 I told you that. Y'all going to be so far out of it.
It doesn't make any sense for him to come back. Come back and do what?

Speaker 15 Whoa, don't say we're going to be so far out of it.

Speaker 15 It's still a chance. It's still a chance.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I mean, look. I mean,

Speaker 12 what's mega million?

Speaker 12 I need to have my sister play some mega million. You're gonna play ball.
It's like 900. You can't play.
We can't play the lottery in Vegas. You got casinos.

Speaker 15 I'm gonna play for you.

Speaker 12 Okay, play for me. I'm gonna play for you.

Speaker 15 And listen, when I win,

Speaker 13 when I win, boy, we're gonna have a ball.

Speaker 12 I'll tell you what. Yeah.
My sister called and said, Well, Shanna, we won the lottery.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 12 You have a new co-host for about two weeks.

Speaker 15 Okay, two. Okay.
Take your little two-week break.

Speaker 12 Yeah, I take a little two-week break.

Speaker 12 Take your little two-week break.

Speaker 12 I'm getting on Qantas Air or Singapore Air. I've been watching the videos on TikTok.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 12 Give me one of them old little old rule, one of them little rules. They got a shower with everything in there.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 12 Yeah, they got five Michelin star chefs preparing, you know, some Scottish Rachi, you know, all that stuff. I can't even pronounce.

Speaker 15 Hold on, where is that again?

Speaker 12 Uh, Emirates, Singapore era, quantum era.

Speaker 15 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 13 Well, hold on, you can, you can do that now without the lottery, though.

Speaker 12 No, I can't.

Speaker 12 I can't take no break right now. I can't take no break right now.

Speaker 15 Okay, I got you.

Speaker 12 Okay. But, but, but, when vacation time do come, right.

Speaker 12 Well, we got, we got, we got, hold on.

Speaker 15 No, ain't we don't, we don't have no vacation time, though.

Speaker 12 No, we do. No, we, when? In June.

Speaker 15 Man, that's the time we supposed to be doing all the activities.

Speaker 12 No, we're gonna do all that before then.

Speaker 15 Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, yeah.
Hey, what's the first one we doing?

Speaker 12 Ain't no

Speaker 12 crap. Gotta keep that on.

Speaker 13 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 12 Yeah, because you know, I've been making some call to some people. They sitting up like, yeah, we'll be very interested.
Okay, okay.

Speaker 15 Well, listen, first off, listen, I don't mean to.

Speaker 15 I want to, I personally, I want to go hunting. I just want to show you my skills with my pistol.

Speaker 12 no

Speaker 12 we go to the gun right we go to the range with for the for the for the pistols no i oh come on man

Speaker 15 you know you know i got my license right you're not fit to dick chaining me no i won't shoot you i won't shoot you i know no we not even gonna be that close together

Speaker 15 i know because you you you make too much noise you and one stall

Speaker 12 I'm over here.

Speaker 12 I'm ready. So, Eagles, look, the Eagles are going for it again.
So, I'm anxious to see because I think there's going to be

Speaker 12 a lot of movement tomorrow.

Speaker 12 There's some teams that are going to try to get better because they're like, okay,

Speaker 12 some teams feel that they're a one player. Maybe it's a receiver and

Speaker 12 maybe it's a defensive player. Maybe it's a D-lineman or maybe it's a safety or something.
But there are people that feel like

Speaker 12 they're a player away from getting over that hump.

Speaker 12 The Ravens acquired Titans pass rusher Draymont Jones in the trade.

Speaker 12 Ravens sent a conditional fifth-round draft pick that can potentially become a fourth-round selection to the Titans in exchange for the Jones.

Speaker 12 The 28-year-old has four and a half sacks and nine games with the Titans this season.

Speaker 12 He's particularly productive as of late with all four and his half, four and a half of the sacks coming over the last four games.

Speaker 12 Jones also racked up 26 tackles and nine quarterback hits to go along with eight pressures this year. Ocho, you like this move?

Speaker 15 I mean, yeah, I do. I do.
I don't think he liked it when he heard about the trade. I saw his tweet where he said the NFL is wild, but he did

Speaker 15 he thanked the Titans, you know, for

Speaker 15 his services and allowing him to play there. So listen, the Ravens, they are all in too.
They're going to do everything they can to get back on track.

Speaker 15 They have a great chance to do it now that Aid is back and anything is possible. Anything is possible when Lamar Jackson is healthy and playing.

Speaker 15 Now, all you have to do is hope that defense, which has been at the bottom of the pack as well, they've been at the bottom of the pack.

Speaker 15 They're in the same conversation when we talk about the Cowboys defense, we talk about the Bengals defense.

Speaker 15 They ain't been no better. Now, last week, they played good, but they got to continue that.

Speaker 15 Check your phone.

Speaker 15 Fishing.

Speaker 15 What close is that?

Speaker 12 When you go catch the big cat fish with your hand,

Speaker 12 you like that. Now, look at you.

Speaker 12 Ocho, we got some very sad news to share.

Speaker 12 Cowboys defensive end Marshawn Nealon sadly died this morning after apparently taking his own life after a brief police chase and a vehicle crash, according to authorities.

Speaker 12 The news has rocked the NFL community today. The Broncos held a moment of silence before tonight's game.

Speaker 12 I believe around the league Sunday, everybody will hold a moment of silence leading into Monday night's game. They will hold a silence for the young man.

Speaker 12 Ocho, what were the first thoughts when you heard the news?

Speaker 15 I mean,

Speaker 15 my first thoughts was, you know, especially where he is right now. He was in a good space.
He had a good game, scored his first touchdown, you know, on special teams.

Speaker 15 And I thought there might have been an issue.

Speaker 15 Honestly, you know, listen, we family. I can share.
I thought it might have been an issue at home.

Speaker 15 You know, issue with his girl or something. And things went left and you know, come to find out, if I'm not mistaken, he fled.
He was running from the cops or whatever it may be.

Speaker 15 So I just thought maybe it stemmed from that and

Speaker 15 just, I'm not sure what headspace he was in.

Speaker 15 But it's sad. It's sad, honestly.
And

Speaker 15 I wish things had been different, you know, for him. for his sake, for his family's sake.

Speaker 15 And I'm praying for, obviously, for the Cowboys fan, Cowboys, you know cowboys players and obviously his family as well but i mean that's the first thing that went through my through my head huh i mean how

Speaker 15 everything everything

Speaker 15 is going right for a young man as as as you would assume on the outside looking in yeah and and most of the time there there are certain disturbances that happen with those closest to you that that

Speaker 15 that kind of sway you to do things that are somewhat uncharacteristic you know of you and it makes you make decisions that just

Speaker 13 are tough

Speaker 15 they're tough and and and be because of that whatever it may be you know i'm not that's i'm just telling you what i thought when i first heard it but um

Speaker 15 whatever did happen i'm sure will come out but and it's it's sad huh it's it's sad you you had your whole career in front of you you had your whole career

Speaker 12 there

Speaker 12 Sometimes it gets dark.

Speaker 12 We were on our way back from L.A. this morning and Jordan said, boss, you see this cowboy player died?

Speaker 12 I said, huh? I said, how old was he? He said, 24.

Speaker 12 I said, it's suicide. He said, why you say that? I said, because

Speaker 12 it wasn't a car accident, because if it was a car accident, they said that. 24-year-olds just don't drop dead.
No.

Speaker 12 That's before I knew anything. Yes, sir.
24-year-old young men playing the NFL just don't drop dead. They don't.
Yes, sir.

Speaker 12 I'll share a story. Not now, because this is our time to grieve him.
But you don't know, boy, when people going through something,

Speaker 12 you got to be really, really strong. Yes.
Really, really, really, really.

Speaker 12 I can't emphasize really enough.

Speaker 13 Right.

Speaker 12 I'll share a story about what 25 has done, what 25 and the things that I've gone through publicly and privately.

Speaker 12 But in this situation, it is reported that his girlfriend called police and asked for a wellness check.

Speaker 12 He has a gun. And if what's being reported, he will end it.
He will end it. He will end it.
She kept emphasizing that.

Speaker 12 It also being reported that the group chatty said he said goodbye to his family.

Speaker 12 Obviously, that's not normal.

Speaker 12 Probably those closest to around him

Speaker 12 probably knew that he probably dealt with something, but probably didn't know the severity in which he was dealing with it. You know, we, you, you know, we, we think we know people, Ocho, we do.

Speaker 12 We think we know people, and yes, yeah, man, I'm good, bro. I'm good, I'm good,

Speaker 12 nah.

Speaker 12 And, and you don't want to pretend, well, I don't want to pride, man.

Speaker 12 Man, you don't know what's man, you don't know the hell that somebody has dealing in their head. Yes, sir.
And the thing is, is that when you're going through something,

Speaker 12 you're like, man, I just, I just want to be out of this pain.

Speaker 12 But when you go that step, think about all the pain that those that's left behind are going to have to deal with. All the unanswered questions.

Speaker 13 Yes, sir.

Speaker 12 Now, what did I do? Where did I go wrong? What could I have done? Did I miss the signs? Is there something I could have done? Could I have intervened sooner? What is it that I missed?

Speaker 12 Now they have to question themselves. They ask themselves tough questions.

Speaker 12 Yeah, he's out of pain. Those demons got him.

Speaker 12 And

Speaker 12 I just feel bad for people that

Speaker 12 parents are not supposed to bury kids. It's supposed to be the other way around.
The other way around.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 12 And I can just imagine,

Speaker 12 and if

Speaker 12 it's mom, it's dad, those that loved him, that cared about him, I can only imagine the hell. Because it's already tough

Speaker 12 when that appointment that you have

Speaker 12 that can't be rescheduled, it's already tough.

Speaker 12 But Ocho, the man upstairs knew how this thing was going to play out. He knew.
He already, the moment you born, he already know how you're going to leave.

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 12 I just,

Speaker 12 my heart breaks for his family. My heart breaks for those that cared about him, that loved him, that, that.

Speaker 12 But you don't know, man. I'm telling you.
I'm telling you when you low yeah and you like and you don't think there's no other way

Speaker 12 to end this pain to end this disappointment to end this heartbreak

Speaker 12 telling you ocho i'm telling you man you have you have to fall on your knees yeah hey it's tough on you know man i had hey bro hey listen hold on hey now now we we done both been there now too now

Speaker 15 hey you talk about i'm talking about the lowest of the lows i'm talking about um sitting on top of the mountain

Speaker 15 at 12 o'clock in the afternoon

Speaker 12 boy by the next the next day at 11 boy was at the bottom yeah and before you go any further about ocho his mom passed away last year

Speaker 12 she

Speaker 15 passed away boy hey that's a pain like no other you hear me oh

Speaker 15 well when i well when i lost hurricane paula you talk about pain and the only thing that was able to the only reason I got to think about them little ones.

Speaker 15 See, that's how I'm able to be able to compartmentalize and understand, okay, I can grieve, I can be hurt, but then the other side of me, I still got to stay strong for them.

Speaker 15 I still got business I got to take care of. So

Speaker 15 I had to be even kill in the sense.

Speaker 13 Listen,

Speaker 15 you know, life does continue to go on. So I'm going to have to do this grieving as I finish this journey.

Speaker 15 I don't have no choice.

Speaker 12 You don't.

Speaker 12 I just remember, Ocho,

Speaker 12 and

Speaker 12 my grandma said it twice. She never said it in front of me, but she said something else.
I remember she told my,

Speaker 12 the doctors came in.

Speaker 12 Sorry, chat.

Speaker 12 The doctors came in the room

Speaker 12 and Libby was just as plain as day. They said, Miss Porter, how you doing?

Speaker 12 She said, I'm not doing well, Donc. I'm dying.

Speaker 12 Said it just like that.

Speaker 12 She said, Miss Porter, she said, Mr. Miss Porter, you can't say like this.
You can't say that.

Speaker 12 You can't think like that. And Libby says, She said, Granny, don't say that, Granny.

Speaker 12 Granny said, I know, I'm dying.

Speaker 12 That was the first time. About a month later, my cousin, Linda, was in the room.
She said, Hey, May uh uh

Speaker 12 Linda's mom and Granny were sisters Annie Mae and Granny

Speaker 12 so she said aunt Mary how you doing she said I ain't doing good Linda I'm dying just like that

Speaker 12 Libby had done told me and Granny know Libby had told me so I come in there and I'm all sad

Speaker 12 She said, boy, why you sad?

Speaker 12 She said, we all got to do it, son we all got to live here we got to leave here we ain't come to stay

Speaker 12 I got up and walked out the room

Speaker 12 I can honestly say

Speaker 12 I've never been the same since

Speaker 12 When my granny died, a part of me died with her.

Speaker 12 I won't ever be the same.

Speaker 12 I won't ever love the same.

Speaker 12 I've tried.

Speaker 12 I'm never going to love anybody like I love that woman.

Speaker 12 Because even when I was wrong, she said, baby, you wrong, but I love you.

Speaker 12 It broke me.

Speaker 12 And when I went back in that room, oh Joe, I remember it like yesterday. I went back in that room.
They was doing a a story on me for the Denver Post, Mike Clier. And I stopped and she was crying.

Speaker 12 I'm talking about uncontrollably. Yeah.
And I stopped Mike. And I went in the room and I got in my arms.

Speaker 12 And I said, Granny, what's wrong?

Speaker 12 And I got in my arms, and she just moving back and forth, back and forth. Granny, what's wrong?

Speaker 12 I said, Granny, it's okay.

Speaker 12 I got it.

Speaker 12 She looked at me. I said, Granny, I got it.

Speaker 12 I said, I got Libby.

Speaker 12 I got Spanky. And I got Mama.

Speaker 12 It's okay.

Speaker 12 I got it.

Speaker 12 I said, you and Papa did what you're supposed to do. I said, Granny, don't worry about it anymore.
I got this. If you need to go home to rest, go home and know your baby got it.

Speaker 12 Ocho, I left.

Speaker 12 That was

Speaker 12 like a Wednesday.

Speaker 12 Thursday, I called home. I called Libby.
Libby said, yeah, I said, You already home? She said, yeah, Granny said she needed some rest.

Speaker 12 30 minutes later, Libby called me back. People called, Granny was gone.

Speaker 12 She wasn't going until she was not going until her baby said it was going to be okay. Once I told Granny it was going to be okay, that I had Libby, I had Spanky, and I had Mama.

Speaker 13 Yeah.

Speaker 12 It was like a weight was lifted off her because her whole life she had worried about everybody. Now she, okay, if I leave her, who gonna worry about him? Who gonna take care of him?

Speaker 12 Me.

Speaker 12 I don't sleep

Speaker 12 because I can't turn my mind off. I've been in survival mode since I was about nine years old.

Speaker 12 Why don't go on vacation? Because I can't.

Speaker 12 Because I can't stop to turn my mind off.

Speaker 12 I lay up so many nights thinking about my brother, my sister, my mom, worried about my kids.

Speaker 12 If something happens to Shannon, who's going to take care of them?

Speaker 12 My mom's been retired 20 years. My sister ain't worked in 50 years.

Speaker 12 My brother's retired. Who is going to, yes, I've got all the parameters in place, but who?

Speaker 12 That's what I worry about. That's why I work so damn hard.
That's why I was in LA,

Speaker 12 did a club Shay Shay interview, did nightcap, got up at 5.30 this morning, caught a seven o'clock flight here, came back, took a shower, took an hour nap, and went and did another club Shayshay interview.

Speaker 12 And here I am doing it tonight, nightcap. That's why.

Speaker 12 because there's nobody else mary and barney porter

Speaker 12 that is my calling

Speaker 12 i got to take care of my family

Speaker 12 that's what i got to do ocho that's what i'm here for

Speaker 12 man you shot up all i thought about was getting rained on all i thought about you talking about oh you ate that all i thought about when i was in denver is what i ate all the night that we didn't have anything to eat

Speaker 12 That's what I thought about. That's what drove me, Ocho.

Speaker 12 There are many nights I was obsessed with it.

Speaker 12 It drove me. There are many nights,

Speaker 12 like I said, I'm going to share my story. I want to talk this about Nealon, but I know what that young man was going through.

Speaker 12 I know.

Speaker 12 There have been many days, Ojo. I'm in my living room and I fall on my knees.

Speaker 12 I say,

Speaker 12 I know you're the Alpha and the Omega. You're the King of Kings, the Lord of lords.

Speaker 12 Father,

Speaker 12 I stretch my hand to thee. No other help.
I know.

Speaker 12 If you leave me, where I'm going to go,

Speaker 12 I say, Father, I know you didn't bring me this far to believe me now.

Speaker 12 I can just imagine the hurt.

Speaker 12 If he cared about his mom like I love my granny, I can imagine the hurt. Because I know the day my sister called me, that night she called me, I was never ever the same.

Speaker 12 And I'm never going to be the same.

Speaker 12 And anybody that bees up, that's in my life needs to understand that I'm going to love you. I'm going to give you everything I got.

Speaker 12 But Mary Viola Porter gave me everything but life.

Speaker 12 Everything but life.

Speaker 12 What you see.

Speaker 12 The discipline, the hard work, the dedication. She used to tell me and my brother all the time, it take all that to make a man.

Speaker 12 Man, my heart breaks for this young man's family. 24 years old.

Speaker 12 Perfect health. Pinch of health on the outside.

Speaker 12 But

Speaker 12 there's a volcano going on inside

Speaker 12 that we can't see.

Speaker 12 There's a saying that says, we create our demons and only we can chase them away.

Speaker 12 Sometimes when you're at your weakest, that's when the old devil try to get you, Joe. Oh, Joe.
Oh, yeah. That's when he tried to get you.

Speaker 12 But if you're not careful,

Speaker 12 he'll get you when you're at your highest, too, because you'll let your guard down.

Speaker 15 It only took me one time.

Speaker 12 To the kneeling family, friends, and loved ones, anybody that came in contact with this young man, I grieve with you.

Speaker 12 I pray with you.

Speaker 12 All I can offer your thoughts and prayers, and hopefully,

Speaker 12 in this most troubled time,

Speaker 12 God brings you comfort, he brings you peace, and he brings you understanding.

Speaker 12 I heard for the family.

Speaker 12 Or do they say if you walk a man a mile in a man's shoes,

Speaker 12 then you'll understand.

Speaker 15 The only way you'll understand.

Speaker 12 You can't walk a mile in a man's shoes, Ocho,

Speaker 12 because the very mile that you walked in his shoes might be the best day of his life. You got to spend an eternity, you got to spend an experience.

Speaker 12 You have to walk step for step, day for day, week for week, month for month, year for year

Speaker 12 to get a sense of what a man is going through or what a person's going through.

Speaker 12 for them demons man

Speaker 12 you got to be strong old joe yeah

Speaker 12 and like you said you need to be strong for other people

Speaker 15 that's don't that's what that's that's the one thing keep me going because i i didn't been i didn't been to the i've been at the lowest of lows i know i'd have been at the highest of highs

Speaker 15 And I learned after being at my lowest, how can I always keep myself even kill at all times? Not get too high, not get too low, but stay right in that middle, no matter what.

Speaker 15 No matter how bad, how sad I am, no matter how good I'm feeling,

Speaker 15 always stay right there, even kill, right in the center.

Speaker 15 My focus has always been completely different,

Speaker 15 always been completely different.

Speaker 15 Losing mama, losing grandma

Speaker 15 on top of the other issues,

Speaker 12 man.

Speaker 15 we all fight a different battle.

Speaker 15 We all fight something. Hey,

Speaker 12 everybody. We all at war.

Speaker 13 Everybody fights

Speaker 12 something.

Speaker 13 Yes.

Speaker 12 24 years of me. 24 years young.

Speaker 12 24 years young. Hell, you remember you was 24? I remember when I was 24.
Hell, my kids. Yeah.

Speaker 12 The one time, this is not the first time he's fought this battle.

Speaker 12 This is the first time the battle's won.

Speaker 12 Cowboys, I pray for you.

Speaker 12 Dak went through very something very similar. His brother.

Speaker 12 Dak spoke about a fallen teammate today. It's been a very tough day, tragic loss.
I hurt heavy, heavy, heavy heart today. I hurt for my Sean.
I hurt for his family. I hurt for his girlfriend.

Speaker 12 I hurt for every single one of my teammates. It's just the pain that you don't wish upon anyone.
You wish none of this,

Speaker 12 none of us had to go through it. You wish Marshawn didn't have to go through it.
What he went through, just thankful for each moment. we have in this life and you don't want to take it for granted

Speaker 12 You're talking somebody that has a first-hand account, you lost a brother.

Speaker 12 I can only imagine. I can't even begin to fathom the pain,

Speaker 12 the hurt

Speaker 12 that the Cowboys fans, the Cowboy players, his family, his friends, his loved ones.

Speaker 12 I can't even fathom that kind of of pain.

Speaker 12 I hurt for him. My heart breaks for him.

Speaker 12 All I can say, if you're going through something, talk to somebody.

Speaker 12 Talk.

Speaker 12 Maybe he felt

Speaker 12 there was no one to talk to. There was no one to turn to, Ojo.

Speaker 12 No one heard his cries.

Speaker 12 His silent screams.

Speaker 12 His whispering yells.

Speaker 12 They went unheard.

Speaker 12 Marshawn Nealon,

Speaker 12 tragically dead at the age of 24.

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