Nightcap Hour 1: Lamar REMOVED GAMES from Ravens locker room + Iso Joe TELLS THE TRUTH on NBA Gambling + 20 YEAR VET Mercedes Lewis joins NIGHTCAP

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Speaker 10 I'm your favorite Uncle Shannon Sharp and my partner and co-host, he's Liberty City's own. He's Bingles, Ring of Fame honoree, a Madden ratings adjuster, a former Pro Bowler, and an all-pro.

Speaker 10 He's Chad Ocho Cinco Johnson. And joining us every Wednesday, our guest and our third member of the big two, now a big three on Wednesday.
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Speaker 10 University of Arkansas alum, Little Rock, Arkansas native, seven-time all-star. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen, Iso Joe Johnson.
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Oh, Joe, this will be his 20th season.

Speaker 11 Season.

Speaker 10 Hey, whoo, hey,

Speaker 11 that's a blessing.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you know how long? Hold on, hold on. I don't think people understand.
Hey, Joe, you know how long 20 years is for a tight end?

Speaker 10 Well, it's never been done. Not a quarterback.

Speaker 10 Whitney Gonzo has the record at 17.

Speaker 10 So, where he has the record. But the previous record, I mean, those two guys played 17.
And we understand how long Tony Gonzalez played and Jason Witten. He surpassed that.

Speaker 10 So he's been at it for a minute. Congratulations to him, but we'll talk to him in a minute.

Speaker 10 Lamar Jackson confirmed he was the reason behind the Ravens removing the ping pong tables games from the team locker room. Let's take a listen to what Lamar had to say about this.

Speaker 12 I told Conico,

Speaker 12 our head equipment guy, I told him to take all the games and ping pong, turning TVs off. If we could have taken the TVs out, it would have been out too, but

Speaker 12 I appreciate Mr. Steve for putting that in there for us, you know.
But

Speaker 12 yeah, we had to focus. I would say people don't take the job serious, don't get me wrong, but like,

Speaker 12 I didn't feel like it was the time for that. You know,

Speaker 12 we got a lot of work to do.

Speaker 10 What's it gonna take to get the back end?

Speaker 10 I don't know if you guys can see it, but we got a graphic

Speaker 10 of what this is what the locker room looks like. Can we talk about the Ravens locker room looked like.

Speaker 10 Probably have to make sure it's summertime OTAs or something, but right now, that's not the focus.

Speaker 10 My bad. Yeah.
Lamar had a little bit more to say, but here's the graphic of what the Ravens locker room looked like without any gaming tables or any other.

Speaker 10 It looks naked.

Speaker 10 It looks naked.

Speaker 10 Ocho,

Speaker 10 look, I think Marlon Humphrey Humphrey kind of dimed him out at the beginning because I think Marlon was on a podcast and he said

Speaker 10 the two most important players, the two most popular players on the team, two best players on the team. Well, you kind of narrowed it down.

Speaker 10 You know, one of them is Lamar, and then if you're going to say Derrick Henry or Ray Roquan Smith, but we knew

Speaker 10 L Jack was one of them. I said, you know what? I'm going to take the guesswork out of it.
I'm going to take the suspicion out of it. I did it.

Speaker 10 I went to the trainer and said, look, blah, blah, blah, so forth forth and so on and they got it done ojo you got a problem with this

Speaker 11 now no honestly i don't have a problem with they were one and five now they're two and five listen having games video games and all that all the extra stuff the tvs inside the locker room that's a privilege

Speaker 11 That's a privilege. And when you're losing the way they're losing right now, especially defensive, they playing horrible, all the extra stuff, it needs to be gone.
All the distractions, having fun,

Speaker 11 what you on the video game for?

Speaker 11 And you're one in five.

Speaker 11 What you on the video game for? And they throwing 300 plus yards on your defense. You can't tackle.
You don't deserve to have the extra privileges that you get in a locker room.

Speaker 11 You all about business. You want to play the video game? Wait till you get home.
We want to watch TV. Wait till you get home.
So I understand, and it had to take somebody like Lamar to do it.

Speaker 11 Because anybody else tried to pull that, oh man, they would have been talking to your ad. They would have

Speaker 10 sit your ass down.

Speaker 10 Exactly.

Speaker 11 But listen, Lamar, Lamar is the only one that can pull that trigger. And ain't nobody going to peep a goddamn sound.
But it's the right thing to do.

Speaker 11 It's the right thing to do, honestly. Joe, hey, I agree.
I agree, man. You know, when you're losing, it magnifies everything.

Speaker 10 So you look at it.

Speaker 11 Hey, hey, you looking for any little thing in there, like, okay, get the damn ping-pong tape out of there. The pool, you want it all gone.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 Because you know those little distractions, you know,

Speaker 11 it could add up in a big game or in practice. It can take your focus away.
Because look, you go to competing too hard on that, you can't wait for practice to be over and you right back on it.

Speaker 11 You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 Hey,

Speaker 11 I agree with Lamar, man. Hey, get all that up out of here.
We'll have fun at OTAs or something in the summertime or something. Right now, we got to lock in, man.

Speaker 11 The rest of this season is very valuable and important for us. Well, listen, hey, Joe, I like what you say.

Speaker 11 Let me tell you something.

Speaker 11 Taking them video games out, taking out the ping-pong table and the pool table, maybe not even having no music. You want to listen to music? Put your goddamn earphones on.

Speaker 11 But I can tell you one thing. Tomorrow night, when they come down there to the hard rock, you hear me? Yeah.
They finna go home with another L.

Speaker 11 So moving all that furniture, rearranging all that furniture out there in the locker room ain't gonna mean nothing when them dolphins

Speaker 11 put built the ass tomorrow.

Speaker 10 Joe, Joe, just for a second, Joe, I agree with everything you said. But oh, Joe, I remember we had a conversation and you told me that ain't got nothing to do with winning.

Speaker 11 Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 10 I don't even talk about it. About stuff that we do when you lose.
Let me ask you a question.

Speaker 10 When they were winning, what were they doing? Were they playing ping pong? Were they playing PlayStation?

Speaker 10 So let me ask you a question.

Speaker 10 Did that go to them winning ball games?

Speaker 10 Oh, oh, but it didn't go to them. Joe, you heard what he said that, Joe.
He said it didn't help them win.

Speaker 10 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 11 Listen, stay with me real quick. Stay with me real quick.
Listen,

Speaker 11 when it comes to teams,

Speaker 11 if they seem to think this is what's best for us to win games, so be it. Honestly, honestly, it had nothing to do with wins and losses.

Speaker 11 What you do when you're not out there on the field had nothing to do with wins and losses. That's mind games, huh? That's mind game.

Speaker 11 Maybe if we remove this stuff from the locker room, maybe the outcome of a game is going to be different. Ain't going to be no goddamn difference.

Speaker 11 The games are won on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday through walkthrough. That's it.
What you're doing in that locker room ain't got nothing to do with it.

Speaker 10 I was just being a but, but I agree with you guys. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 10 You know how I am, Mocho.

Speaker 10 Wait till the book comes out when they find out what all I did that they didn't know about.

Speaker 10 That's what you need to worry about. But I agree with it because the thing is, is like what you guys said, is that

Speaker 10 I need to focus. Because now you ain't, hey, man,

Speaker 10 let's play a game right here. Let's shoot poo.

Speaker 10 Let's play S5, blah, blah, blah. Nah, get your ass in your playbook.

Speaker 10 That's what you need to do. Because all I know is that team, it doesn't matter who we play, play, who the quarterback is,

Speaker 10 he looking like Patrick Mahomes when he plays us. That's all I know.
I don't know anything else, but the guy looks like Patrick Mahomes when he plays us. So something

Speaker 10 is not computing.

Speaker 10 All that stuff.

Speaker 10 You like shooting pool? Either go to the billiard hall or put a pool table in your own damn house. You like PS5?

Speaker 10 Well, maybe that's the problem. You're paying too much.

Speaker 10 You're playing your homeboys with your friends or your former college mate when you take your ass home and you're not putting enough time on the iPad.

Speaker 10 I don't have any problem with this because Lamar, as the leader,

Speaker 10 this is leadership. This is what you're supposed to do.

Speaker 10 Sometimes it's just not about how well you play. Sometimes you have to take measures that's unpopular.
Now, I'm sure some guys don't like the A-man. They ain't got nothing to do with why we lose it.

Speaker 11 Absolutely not. But what they gonna say?

Speaker 10 They're gonna say something.

Speaker 11 Who going to people sound in that locker room, Joe, when Ocho say, you know what, man, we don't need this. We don't need this no more.
I'm in eight. I'm in eight.
That's what I'm trying to say.

Speaker 10 Who gonna say something to Lamar?

Speaker 11 Man, man, please. No.

Speaker 10 Absolutely. But that's the thing.

Speaker 11 Not the way they're looking on defense.

Speaker 10 You're right. You're right.
Because, like I said, look, I remember we was losing the game. Hey, we didn't have lunch.
Dan told us, I ain't feeding you, sorry, you know what? Go get your own lunch.

Speaker 10 Oh, okay. Okay.

Speaker 10 You can get it.

Speaker 10 I'm just not paying for it. We're just not paying for it.
I ain't saying you couldn't eat. So you got an hour to get your ass to wherever you wanted, whatever you wanted.

Speaker 10 I mean, obviously, you know, we have fans and get back. Obviously, you're not going anywhere to

Speaker 10 sit down and eat. And you're not going to get anything heavy.

Speaker 10 Right. But, but

Speaker 10 that's the way it goes. I mean, when you losing, hey, sitting on your helmet, they don't know I'm sitting on my helmet.
What that got to do with why we losing?

Speaker 10 I was sitting on my helmet when we was winning.

Speaker 10 The locker room was nasty when we was winning. We got to clean up.

Speaker 10 Whatever. You like, Ocho, you said it very clearly.
It's mentally.

Speaker 10 Maybe that's the reason. Maybe.
All you want, somebody's like, damn, man, they took them games up out of there, man. We're playing.
Okay, what else can we remove?

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 11 I got a question, huh? Hey, I got a question, Joe. Hey, chat, for those of you that are listening, what happens when you remove all that stuff and you still get whooped? And

Speaker 11 we can live with them results, oh, yeah. But we know we ain't had no distractions coming into practice.
We ain't got no coming in that time. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna get at you.
Yeah, oh, yeah,

Speaker 11 we ain't gotta do that.

Speaker 10 Have your money tucked up on the rail like you would like you at the joke joint. Okay, you know, when you gamble on the pool table, you put tuck the money up under the rail.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah, oh, yeah, right, right.

Speaker 11 Hey, look, then you know, it gets so serious, I don't came in there with my own pool stick.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I can't wait for it to do today. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 11 For real, now we all out of whack. We got a whole game plan we got to think of, right?

Speaker 10 But you know what? I can honestly say, I can only remember a handful of times of me actually watching the only time I can only remember that I actually watched television. Y'all know what it was:

Speaker 10 the OJ trial.

Speaker 10 oh that was the only that was the only time that i can remember actually watching you know and i wasn't like sitting down the whole hour watching it get my workout in see what was going you know see what was going on like let me go get take get my ass get my ass on this field

Speaker 10 so that was really the only time and then uh one of but that was that was like on a tuesday that was our off day uh the world trade center i remember walking in and i saw the fall like well damn is that real

Speaker 10 right now i thought you know like nah that ain't real that ain't even that ain't even real i didn't even seem real so i remember walking in talking to uh uh bill tessendorf who was our head trainer at the time i said test

Speaker 10 i just saw a like like the world trade center is like go to is that like a movie he's like nah sharpie that's that's real i said really i said what happened he's like i don't know look like somebody you know crashed into it so

Speaker 10 Same day I remember taking my dog. I took my dog over there, had a Makita at the time, and I let him run around while I went and worked out.

Speaker 10 He done slipped up under the damn fence and gone somewhere. Oh, man.
Now,

Speaker 10 because I know the phone was wrecked. I was trying to call my sister.
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Speaker 10 when is a cell phone busy? I try to call my homeboy Bucket. It's busy.
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Speaker 10 So it didn't dawn on me. And then when I saw that, it didn't look real.
And the next thing I know, I say, now I understand what's going on. But who watches, who goes,

Speaker 10 I don't know, I shouldn't say that. Who watches TV when they go to work? I don't.

Speaker 10 I don't watch TV.

Speaker 10 This one.

Speaker 10 But I don't watch TV, but I don't have a problem. That's what leadership should be.
That's what Lamar should have done.

Speaker 10 And he shouldn't have, he should, look, y'all know who did it. I mean, I'm surprised John Harbaugh didn't do it, but he didn't want to come off and like, oh, coach doing that.

Speaker 10 But when we were winning, he didn't take up. He didn't do blah, blah, blah.
X, Y, and Z. You know how it goes.
I'm glad Lamar did that.

Speaker 10 I'm glad Lamar stepped up, showed the leadership that has been bestowed upon him that he earned. He didn't deserve it.
He earned that with his plate.

Speaker 11 Yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 10 He's one of the tenure, senior tenure players that are there. If he can't say, take it out, X, Y, and Z.
Well, who can? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Listen, and one more thing before we go on to the next subject, I just want to add for the chat, Joe.

Speaker 11 I want to let you know, I know they took, you know, well, Lamar took the right measures, you know, to make sure the team focuses and do what they need to do offensively.

Speaker 11 Lamar is going to take care of his business, but the defense ain't nothing to happen. Ain't nothing to happen.
Listen, tomorrow, I'm going to the game tomorrow.

Speaker 11 You hear me? Hey, two are finna throw for 300. You hear me? Hey, hey, hey, hold on, hold on.
Two of them to throw for 300.

Speaker 10 What Lamar is going to throw for?

Speaker 10 My ass, what is Lamar Jackson going to do?

Speaker 11 I mean, Noah Lamar, first game back,

Speaker 11 he might be a little rusty. He might be a little rusty.
He'll throw for about maybe about 210. Man,

Speaker 10 Lamar going to win a player of the week.

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Speaker 11 it's mighty funny, Ocho.

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Speaker 11 I said it was early. He was like, oh, man, right, right, right, right.
You went out there and had a hell of a game against the Falcons. And now

Speaker 11 you back on the bandwagon. I'm all for it.
I never jumped off the bandwagon. Joe, when Tour played bad, this is something that I had a problem with.

Speaker 11 Critiquing players and not really saying when they're playing bad. I made excuses for him.
Joe, I ain't making no excuses for it. When you play bad, I'm going to let you know.

Speaker 11 And I'm going to say it loud. I'm going to say it proud.
I'm going to scream. I'm going to scream it from the hill like Jack and Jill.
You hear me?

Speaker 11 So you got them beating. You got them beating the Ravens? Oh, yeah, absolutely.
Joe, I'm going to the game. It's at the hard rock, Joe.

Speaker 10 The hard rock right down the street for you. Bet the Ravens.

Speaker 10 That man ain't been to a game this year. And the team that he went there supporting won the game.

Speaker 11 Hold on, hold on, hold on. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 Excuse me, come again.

Speaker 10 When you went to the Bengals game, tell the people at home what happened.

Speaker 11 We won. No, you didn't.
We won the last game I went to.

Speaker 10 What was the last game you went to?

Speaker 11 When they played the Steelers.

Speaker 10 No, you didn't go to that game.

Speaker 11 I did go to that game. I was there.

Speaker 10 I don't know. That sounds suspect to me.
Remember,

Speaker 11 remember I was in the hotel? I had to leave the game in the fourth quarter to come home.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I remember you left the game in the fourth quarter, another game, and came home, too.

Speaker 10 But you had your tail between your legs on that game.

Speaker 11 No, absolutely not. Absolutely not.
But listen,

Speaker 11 listen, I don't mean to jump off topic. If Joe Burrow wasn't hurt, you know the Bengals beat 6-2.

Speaker 11 We'll be six and two. You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 After season, how many seasons have you said that since he's been in the league? You used that if Joe Burrow wasn't hurt. You've used that more than

Speaker 10 10 minutes.

Speaker 11 Wait, wait a minute. What you want me to do about that?

Speaker 11 I can't, I'm not in control of him, you know, getting injured or being healthy. I'm just saying that would happen if he was healthy full-time.
I'm telling you where we would be at.

Speaker 10 But it's more probable than not there's a greater probability that he gets hurt based on his tenure in the NFL than him not. not.

Speaker 10 Am I correct? Yes or no?

Speaker 10 Think about it. He missed basically his home rookie season, torn a knee.
He missed what last year, a year before last, with a wrist.

Speaker 10 Now he's going to miss the better part of this season with a foot, with a toe.

Speaker 11 A toe?

Speaker 10 So this has kind of been his M.O. since he's been in the league.

Speaker 11 I got you. I got you.
But listen, get the injuries out the way early in your career. Get the injuries out the way early in the career.
And, you know, we'll probably win the Super Bowl next year.

Speaker 10 Hold on, Ocho. How are you going to get the injuries outensive line? What got him hurt?

Speaker 10 What got him hurt his rookie year? Offensive line was terrible. What happened

Speaker 10 in the game? Tweaked the offensive line. His toe got tackled from, flushed out of the pocket, offensive line.

Speaker 10 So, I mean, y'all got a new one coming in I don't know about?

Speaker 11 No, we don't, but everybody can't have the, matter of fact, everybody can't have the Philadelphia Eagles offensive line, huh? Everybody can't have the goddamn

Speaker 10 hell out of the ball. Okay, just don't have the bad news bears or the replacement offensive line.
If you don't have that, you'll be fine.

Speaker 11 But also, let me say this. Hey, Joe, let me say this too.
Also,

Speaker 11 on Joe Burrow, boy, you got to get the ball out of your hand, baby. You have to get the ball out your hands.
You know, waiting to scramble because you're very good at extending plays.

Speaker 11 We know you got a little Michael Vick in you. You're not as fast, but you can maneuver the pocket.
I say you're you're not. You got a little Michael Vic in you when it comes.

Speaker 10 Let me finish.

Speaker 11 Let me finish. I just said not as fast, but his ability to maneuver in the pocket and manipulate it and extend plays is second to none.
But he don't got no speed. That's all.

Speaker 11 Are you talking about Joe Burrow? Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, Joe, he could extend a play like a mother.
I know he can't. I like Joe.
He's a bad boy.

Speaker 11 He holds on to the ball just a tad bit too.

Speaker 10 Based on his offensive line, of course he holds on to the ball too long. But you got to let the plays develop.
And a lot of times, Ocho, he's thinking like, oh, yeah, we protected here.

Speaker 10 Or you have a breakdown there. Somebody didn't slide the right way.
Somebody didn't get over far enough. The back didn't do a good enough job of chipping on his way out.

Speaker 10 There's a lot of things that play into a sack. It's not always on the offensive line.
It's not always on the quarterback. Sometimes it's a combination.

Speaker 10 And a lot of times it seems like they're taking turns. Line doesn't do what it's supposed to.
Joe doesn't get the ball out of his hand fast enough. Running back doesn't chip or do his job good enough.

Speaker 10 And so it's just one after another. And it just, it's a snowball effect that gets larger and larger.

Speaker 11 Just a small example before we go on to the next topic again.

Speaker 11 I want you to look at Joe Flacco. When Joe Flacco was played, he's played.
He started three weeks. Look at him when he played against the Steelers.
Got the ball out of his hand right away. Right away.

Speaker 11 Joe got sacked one time. Joe ain't get sacked to the fourth quarter.
Waiting on a longer play to develop, which was going downfield. And that was the only way.

Speaker 11 That was the only reason TJ Watt was able to get back there. But outside of that, every time Joe gets that ball, one, two, three, boom, it's out of there.
Quick.

Speaker 11 So even if the line is playing bad, it somewhat looks a little different with Joe Flacco back there because he's getting rid of the goddamn ball fast as hell with his decision making.

Speaker 11 Now, I'm not saying Joe Burrow can't do that. I'm just saying at times he needs to get rid of it very fast and get it out of his way.

Speaker 10 Live to see another one. Check this out, OJo and Joe.
The Bears trolled the Ravens, posted this video on social media of Bears players competing in games in the locker room and the facility.

Speaker 11 Oh, they playing Papa Shot.

Speaker 10 Oh, we had one of them.

Speaker 15 You had a Papa Shot? Yeah.

Speaker 10 In the locker room?

Speaker 10 Now they playing Pink. Look at that OJ.
They're playing Pink Poke.

Speaker 10 They playing darts.

Speaker 10 That ain't on the game. Patty, hey,

Speaker 10 Patty. Yeah, we had a Pope.
Oh, Joe, that was money.

Speaker 10 That was money, oh John.

Speaker 11 Y'all were gambling on. Y'all were gambling on Papa Shot?

Speaker 10 Yes,

Speaker 11 man. Hey,

Speaker 11 we had ping pong tournaments. Yes.
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.
We had ping pong back and forth. I'm talking about like a couple people play before practice, a couple people play after practice.

Speaker 10 Hey, look here. I know how you get.
We come, hey, you come and put your per dim money down. Oh, we bet money.
So, like, we get that money

Speaker 10 per dim, oh, Joe, you put that thing down. Hey,

Speaker 10 we shoot.

Speaker 10 So two people, two people make it, it goes back. Right.
You can about have 10 people up there. If only one make it, you get all them pre diems.

Speaker 10 Oh,

Speaker 11 okay, I like that. I like that.

Speaker 10 I like that. So we get like workout checks.
So, you know, in the OTAs, OJo, you get a workout check. It's probably like $250,000, $300.

Speaker 10 So

Speaker 10 I go upstairs, I get my check. I bet, hey, bet the check.
Because that's what everybody would do. Bet the check.
Don't even look at it, Joe. Just bet the check.
All right. You know, we shooting.

Speaker 10 Okay, like, damn. Man, we got to go.
We'll finish this up. Leave the checks right there in the locker room.
So, we come back.

Speaker 10 I make mine. Two dudes missed theirs.
It was me and Burns. I think it was me and Burns and a house.
I think it was me, Burns, and House. But anyway, we were shooting.

Speaker 10 I opened their check at like $350,000. My check was $70,000.

Speaker 10 They had owed me from last year some money.

Speaker 11 Okay, okay, okay.

Speaker 10 So you got it. I got lucky.
You didn't know. I didn't know because I didn't open the check.
See, the thing is, Joe, you can't open it.

Speaker 10 You got to shoot it blind.

Speaker 10 I don't know about that one. Oh, that's how we got to do it, Joe.
You got to shoot that thing blind.

Speaker 10 Because, see, if you know what's in there, you ain't going to do it. I want you.
Hey, right. Hey, just put it on the just put a just put the per dim right there.

Speaker 10 Put it right there.

Speaker 10 Y'all play cards? Joe, y'all play cards?

Speaker 10 What y'all play? In between, bo-ray, tunk.

Speaker 11 We play bo-re, in-between, guts. Yeah, uh,

Speaker 11 ain't, ain't, hey, ain't nothing nice playing them games.

Speaker 11 No spades?

Speaker 10 Well, it's hard. It's hard to play.
We don't really play spade for money. We play spades for pride.

Speaker 11 Okay, okay. Hey, Ocho.
Yeah. It might be a sensitive subject right now, but them boys love to gamble, man.

Speaker 10 Oh, for sure.

Speaker 10 Hey, hold on, hold on.

Speaker 11 Listen. Hey, Joe, that's everywhere.
Yeah. That's everywhere.
I mean, obviously,

Speaker 11 they made it legal,

Speaker 11 which is kind of weird. How do you make it legal? And then all of a sudden, you're surprised that people are actually gambling now.
But you do know right from wrong. So, I mean, it's.

Speaker 10 But you know what they're getting them on.

Speaker 10 They're going to fix it. So if you're a player, you can't bet on the props.
It's the prop bets that's getting them. It's not the win or lose the game.
It's over under the minutes.

Speaker 10 It's over under the shot attempts. It's all

Speaker 10 those kind of stuff.

Speaker 10 It's the injury report, Joe. Man, you know, hey, man, you know, Joe.

Speaker 10 Hi, Joe. Man, Joe wasn't even that shoot around.
Joe ain't playing today. Now, that information is going to come public at about three hours, but it's not public now.

Speaker 10 So they're getting a head start on the info. So

Speaker 10 that's what the NBA is trying to nip in the bud. They're trying to get, like, oh, we've got to do a better job of curtailing this, the injury report.

Speaker 10 That's why they make the injury reports public, Ocho. Because just imagine if they weren't public and only a handful, but only a handful of people know know anyway

Speaker 11 man listen uh oh cho in 2020 i played in the tbt that's the uh

Speaker 11 that's the uh the basketball league for like two million dollars million

Speaker 11 and i played on a team and uh it was during covet so they had us locked in this uh hotel in ohio so the night before the game my homeboy who was here in atlanta he called me the night before the game he said hey man they uh they got you they got you uh what you think, over under 18 points for you tomorrow.

Speaker 11 I'll hung up.

Speaker 10 I'm like, man, don't call me.

Speaker 10 Listen, listen, listen.

Speaker 11 Don't call me with all that. You know what I mean?

Speaker 10 I don't know who on the other end.

Speaker 11 Yeah, right. And

Speaker 11 I don't want to go into the game with no preconceived notion that I got to get 25 points. Just let me.
Right.

Speaker 10 You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 So

Speaker 11 I can see where some of these dudes, homeboys, hitting them and telling them, hey, man,

Speaker 10 they'll be thinking about it. Man,

Speaker 10 man, I ain't practiced all week, man. I ain't player.
They got that thing is questionable. Oh, no.

Speaker 10 Bro, I ain't playing.

Speaker 10 Man, he's right. Right.

Speaker 10 But that gambling, right? That gambling, if you got to gamble with people that you know, because gambling, I don't see a lot of fights break out about that money.

Speaker 11 Hey, hold on. Oh, wait a minute.
Wait a minute. You heard the first thing you said, which is obviously a lie.

Speaker 11 You got to gamble with people you know because I done seen some of the best of friends fall out when it comes to money. Hell, I done seen family fall out.

Speaker 10 Well, how about people with money? How about people that's going to pay?

Speaker 10 Right. Because, hey, you start playing

Speaker 10 on one of them.

Speaker 10 That party in between to get up 25, 50,000, 100,000 like that.

Speaker 10 Like that.

Speaker 10 I've been in a pot that got to be 35,000. We had a pot so high.
We was like, hey, man, just forget it. Hey, everybody good.

Speaker 10 Hey, because, hey, nobody want that. Because I already know, boy, you lose $100,000.

Speaker 10 How you going to focus on the

Speaker 11 Hold on, listen. Who better? Who better?

Speaker 10 Because the way you play, Ocho, let's just say we playing cards. Okay, an ace come.
You got to call it high or low. And then the next card.
So if I get an ace, I'm going to say high.

Speaker 10 The next card comes, let's just say it's a five. I say potted.
As long as the card comes in between that.

Speaker 10 Long as it comes six, King, I'm good.

Speaker 10 If it comes on the edges, which is another ace or another five, you got to double what's in the pot. So, if the pot is 10,000, you got to double it to 20,000.
Now, the pot's 30,000.

Speaker 10 You see, Joe, what happened? In between, see, going to the super in between, me and we all played, we have some good old time.

Speaker 10 The pot is right got to like probably got to like 8,000. Then they got to like 10.

Speaker 10 Burns said, Hell, I'm selling my cars. I said, Hey,

Speaker 10 so he said, man, he said, Oh, boy, he said, I love you. He said, but I can't go home and tell Michelle I lost this.

Speaker 10 It was a king, it was a five.

Speaker 10 King five.

Speaker 10 I was like, damn. I said, what you want to do, homeboy? He said, man, I'm selling these cars.
I said, don't worry about it. I got you covered.
I said, I got it covered. I said, what we gonna do?

Speaker 10 I said,

Speaker 10 if we lose, I'll put the money up.

Speaker 10 If we win, I'll split it with you.

Speaker 10 I wouldn't do that with anybody else now.

Speaker 10 Right, right, right. This is all my fault.

Speaker 11 What about me? You wouldn't do that with me.

Speaker 10 First of all, your ass wasn't even in the league. You was in college.

Speaker 10 As a battle for me, what about you? In 98, where were you at in 98?

Speaker 11 98. Boy, I was a junior in high school.
No, I was a sophomore in college.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 So it was a king and it was a five.

Speaker 10 I was like, I said, let's, hey, homeboy, let's just pot it. Now the pot's like 10.
If we get hit on the edge, if a king or a five come ojo, we got to to double the pot.

Speaker 10 Now, if it comes a four or ace, we just have to match the pot.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 10 That thing came six.

Speaker 11 Ooh.

Speaker 10 Guy didn't have enough money to put it up, so he had to put Super Bowl tickets up. Because we're going to the Super Bowl.
Because you know how long it takes you to get from Denver to Miami?

Speaker 10 So a lot of money changed hands.

Speaker 10 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 10 Man.

Speaker 11 Hey, Joe, hey, Joe, I know you got some good gambling stories. You ain't got to put no name on it, though, Joe.
Man, listen, when I was playing here in Atlanta, me, Josh Smith, Mike Bibby,

Speaker 11 big Jason Collins, like,

Speaker 11 we used to gamble, Ocho, and like, when you get off the plane,

Speaker 11 if you won $7,000 or $8,000, that was a pretty good day. Right.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 11 Boy, when I got to Houston, playing with James Harden, CP and PJ Tucker.

Speaker 11 And they getting off the plane owing each other $140,000. I said, I ain't playing with y'all.

Speaker 10 Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa. Tap out.

Speaker 11 I just used to watch. I used to watch.
I ain't never used to play with him hold on joe you're not gonna say that like that like it's normal on on how much yeah 140 000 170 000 80 000.

Speaker 11 you talk about in bitcoin or american dollar with no bitcoin back then

Speaker 10 that money hey i i hey i i heard stories like guys you had to come to the you had to come to the table with a hundred 150 200 000 in cash just to sit at the table what and if you start gambling you couldn't sit in you're like nah bro you got to go Nah, I'm just here with such and such.

Speaker 10 That ain't got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 11 Yeah, Ocho. Cause look, you're going to come to the table with that little 2,500 trying to do that.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. You trade.
Yeah. Bang will let you do it.

Speaker 11 That's going to last you two rounds, homeboy.

Speaker 10 You're going to be out of that. That's how most, that's how most people, that's how most big heavyweights gamble is that you got to come with X amount of dollars.

Speaker 10 You got to come with $50, $100, $200, quarter of a million dollars in cash just

Speaker 10 to get in and sit in the room. Because you're not fit to be no bystander.
I don't need no cheerleader, they don't need none of that, right? Right,

Speaker 11 but but but this all athletes, though it ain't like no homeboys, it ain't none of that. This is all athletes, man.

Speaker 10 Uh, uh, oak, oak love to gamble like that,

Speaker 10 big oak tree, yeah, oak tree. But I know another guy that liked to gamble like that and talking about, yeah, you know, uh, you know, we stand at such and such.
I think ain't got nothing to do with me.

Speaker 10 The man, the dude, right here, he, I say, bro, I said, you're not finna get my house.

Speaker 10 I'm sorry, bro. I'm good.
I'm good. I don't want to say, man, guess what? I took 50K.
I took a no, no, no.

Speaker 10 Because he got that kind of money that every time you play, you nervous because you know you can't put him under the gun. You can't put him at risk.

Speaker 10 See, the whole thing is to put something when you playing with cash money and it's right there on the table. The whole thing is to put the guy at risk.

Speaker 10 You can't put him at risk.

Speaker 11 Yeah, if you can't put him at risk, because he'll cover it.

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Speaker 10 I got our special guest joining us. He just signed with the Broncos, playing in his 20th season, played a grand total of 285 career games.
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Speaker 10 University of California at Los Angeles, aka UCLA. Here he is, ladies and gentlemen.
Mar Sades Lewis.

Speaker 15 What's up, brother?

Speaker 10 I'm good, man. How you doing, bro?

Speaker 15 I'm doing well, man. Just everything happened so fast.
It was

Speaker 15 like, obviously, I played 19 last year. I didn't get picked up for camp.
Didn't do OTAs. This was the first time I hadn't been in camp.
So

Speaker 15 it was a mental,

Speaker 15 it was messing with me mentally for a second because it's something that I've been used to. And I'm one of those that I love camp.
I love building that gristle and getting ready for the season.

Speaker 15 And so when I didn't get picked up, it was like, okay, you know, how do I want to go about this?

Speaker 15 And so I just was kind of more introspective about it and just kind of was in a state of allowing, meaning like not resisting nor forcing what was meant for me.

Speaker 15 I come back from Joshua Tree. I go to a place where I recover at, get an Asana.
I get a call from a Denver number.

Speaker 15 And obviously, I didn't answer it because I didn't have it. I'm thinking it's spam.
I'm like, man, what is this?

Speaker 15 So the number calls back probably like three minutes later. And I'm like, I still look at my phone, didn't answer it.
And then the GM left a message like, yo, big dog, give me a call.

Speaker 15 This is George Payton, GM at the Broncos. Want to talk to you for a second.

Speaker 15 So I called him back and literally right there, and this was Monday, he was like, yo, yo, can you fly out here tonight? And I was like, mind you, I've never been in this situation before.

Speaker 15 Like I've always been contracted. So it was just different

Speaker 15 feeling this, you know, feeling this, right? And so I'm like, you know what? Yeah, I could fly out there. So I hopped on a flight like around eight,

Speaker 15 got to Denver like around 11.30 at night, sat on the tarmac for like 50 minutes,

Speaker 15 then went to the hotel. And then literally next day, Tuesday,

Speaker 15 worked out, took my physical and shit, signed on the spot, man. So it's definitely a different experience.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you tell them, hell yeah, you fly, you buy, I fly. Come on now.

Speaker 10 Will I fly? Hell yeah. You buy, I fly.
No doubt.

Speaker 11 Hey, Mercedes, was it ever the thought in your mind that you will be able to, for one, make it into the league is one thing. You want to play.
You want to have a healthy career.

Speaker 11 You want to squeeze in as many years as you can, obviously. But did you ever think you'd get to your 20?

Speaker 15 Man, I thought, you know, obviously coming out of UCLA that 10 was going to be a great career.

Speaker 10 And,

Speaker 15 you know, and it was a situation where I'm not sure you're familiar with John Embry. He was my tight end coach at UCLA.
Yeah,

Speaker 10 he was in camp with me my rookie year in 1990. Okay.

Speaker 10 Okay.

Speaker 15 So you know Embo, you know his

Speaker 15 energy and just the type of person he is. So obviously Embo, you know, he coached Tony Gonzalez, George Kittle for a little while.
Remember

Speaker 15 Daniel Graham?

Speaker 15 So as far as like that, his resume is dipped in blood when it comes to like tight ends and how he's able to get across to those guys. And, you know,

Speaker 15 100%. And I remember, I would say

Speaker 15 he got to UCLA my sophomore year, then fired the tight end coach we had.

Speaker 15 He got to UCLA and the first conversation we had, he was like, look, I didn't come to UCLA to coach for UCLA. He said, I came to UCLA to coach you.

Speaker 15 Gave me a whole rundown of like my family, knew where I was from. I'm from the east side of Long Beach.
My mom had me at 15 years old. I've been through just a whole bunch.

Speaker 15 So he had already done his homework.

Speaker 15 And that kind of, you know, lit a fire under me. And so

Speaker 15 right after that, that formed a connection and just like that vibration that we had. And literally, he took me from,

Speaker 15 he said, look, this is where you are now. You got the ability to go through here.
He was like, there's a lot of people that can catch the ball and run and look pretty.

Speaker 15 We know that you're an athlete, cool, we get it. You want to play a long time in the league, you're going to have to learn how to get your nose dirty, and it starts right here.

Speaker 15 And so, he literally took me from you know, just being able to catch a pass and do nice things with it to like

Speaker 15 really being a dog and what it meant to being a dog. And so, I learned how to compete under him.
And so, by the time I got to the league, this is my rookie year. I get drafted in 2006.

Speaker 15 Um, Freddie T, Fred Taylor, took me under his wing. Hell yeah.

Speaker 15 And Fred Taylor, he called me slim. Like at that time, I was 6'6, like 260, but I didn't have the mass, right? So he just always just called me slim.

Speaker 15 So one, the first day of pads, we got the Oklahoma drill, right? So this is like my first Oklahoma drill in the NFL. We get three DNs up.

Speaker 15 Freddie T's running behind me twice, and then Maurice Drew is running behind me.

Speaker 11 I pancaked the first two guys, moved the third guy out the way.

Speaker 15 Freddie T jumped on my back, kind of like wrestled me me almost to the grass and was like, yo, you keep blocking like that. You're going to be in the league for a long time.
So

Speaker 15 fast forward to

Speaker 15 when I signed my contract this morning, Freddie T texted me and was like, you remember that conversation we had? I was like, bro, how could I ever forget that?

Speaker 15 That's something that I always have with me. And it's something that's inspired me this whole entire time.
So I'm just grateful to, you know, he didn't have to take me under his wing.

Speaker 15 He played running back. It was,

Speaker 15 it's just been, it's been smooth, man. And I just take it one day at a time and, you know, just get get my personal best of whatever it is i'm doing in that day and i live with the results

Speaker 10 you you you mentioned uh mercedes but bro that's still a long time um to get your body to go through the rigors uh look we know that you don't you know situational now but still you got to come in there and it ain't jacksonville where you got nice warm weather you play you in chicago bro outside you got you're having to go and you with the green bay outside so so we get it

Speaker 10 So once you got past year, once you got past year 10, as you mentioned, I get 10. Then you get to 15.
Because once you get to 10, you take it one year at a time.

Speaker 15 100%.

Speaker 10 Once you got to 15, you had to be like, hold on. Gonzalez played 17.
Wenton played 17.

Speaker 10 The way I feel right now, 17 is in the bag.

Speaker 10 Was it ever a realistic shot once you got past 15 that 20 would be into the play in the equation?

Speaker 15 Bro, you just hit it on the nose.

Speaker 15 And like, this conversation is something that I have pretty often with people because they ask me, like, how did you, like, like, what in your mind made you think that you can just keep going and keep jumping up to continue your career?

Speaker 15 15 was literally that magic number. Once I got to, once I passed 10, I got to 15 and I was like, okay,

Speaker 15 I don't want to question it because I don't want to jinx myself, but I still feel really good.

Speaker 10 Right.

Speaker 15 And so I get to 15. I'm in Green Bay.

Speaker 15 And literally, Green Bay is like, well,

Speaker 15 we want to sign you to a two-year deal because I was only doing one-year deals trying to just play it by ear.

Speaker 10 Yep.

Speaker 15 And like at that time in Green Bay, obviously we had Jimmy Graham, he assigned a contract, he was there for a couple of years, then he ended up leaving.

Speaker 15 And then I ended up being like the full-time why. Like, so I was the why, which means like the do-it-all tight end for the listeners out there.

Speaker 15 And then we had obviously the pass-catching tight end at that time, Robert Tullyon.

Speaker 10 So

Speaker 15 I was doing all the dirty work, outside zone,

Speaker 15 power, ISO, all that.

Speaker 10 You got to set that edge, Marced. You got to set the edge.

Speaker 10 I was sifting.

Speaker 15 I was doing all that. And so

Speaker 15 they,

Speaker 15 I didn't expect them to offer me a two-year deal. I thought it was going to be one year, one year.

Speaker 15 But when they offered me a two-year deal, I felt like it was my responsibility to go out there and continue to give them what they know that I'm about. And

Speaker 15 I signed the deal, didn't look back, got through 17, still felt really good. A-Ry ends up leaving.
Devontae ends up leaving. Cobb retires.
Dave Battiari leaves. And I'm like, okay, it's only me here.

Speaker 15 I know it's about to be my time to go too. So they hit me up like, hey, Sadie's, like, you know, we're kind of changing the regime.
Like, you know, you know, the

Speaker 15 so I'm like, all right, like, no doubt, whatever, like, you know, I'll figure it out. And then not too long after that, I would say.

Speaker 15 June, Chicago hit me up.

Speaker 15 And then we had had Luke Getze, who was the quarterback coach with Green Bay and was familiar with, you know, how to use me as far as in play, you know, plays and what I'm good at, and brought me to Chicago.

Speaker 15 Thinking that was going to be a one-year deal,

Speaker 15 played that out, still played about 43% of the plays at 39 years old. So I'm still rolling.
Then the next year, bring me back. So that's two years.
And then here we are now.

Speaker 15 It was just like a, once I got 18, I was like, I have to get 20.

Speaker 10 Got 19.

Speaker 10 Yeah, I

Speaker 10 I can't end on the odd number. I got to get 20.

Speaker 15 I can't. Like, this is, I literally, it was like the capstone.
Like, 20 is like when I wake up with a magic number in the NFL.

Speaker 10 Ain't a whole lot of players that's ever played 20 seasons.

Speaker 10 You get a Jackie Slater, and you get a Tom Brady, and you get a handful of guys, but maybe, I don't think it's 20 guys, maybe, maybe it's 20 guys of

Speaker 10 25,000 people, men, that's ever played this game. Daryl Green.

Speaker 10 It ain't a whole lot of guys. So let me ask you this.
Is this it? You trying for 21 or you done at 20? You stopping on

Speaker 10 a nice, round, even number.

Speaker 11 Okay.

Speaker 10 So

Speaker 15 this will be the first time I've ever said this because I haven't, but

Speaker 15 this is it. Like.

Speaker 15 If I had said that last year, like if I said that after 19, I wouldn't have felt like I did in these months that I was not playing, right? Like, bro, I would wake up sometime, like the season started.

Speaker 15 It was a few teams hit my agent up, but it was like, just, is he still working out? Does he still want to play? Just a bunch of like fluff. It wasn't nothing serious.

Speaker 15 So I told my agent, Buzz Cook, I told him, I said, look,

Speaker 15 if it's not serious, like, don't hit me up because it's messing with my head. Like,

Speaker 15 some days I wake up sharp and be like, Right. I feel good.
And then some days I wake up and I feel like I'm in a nightmare because I'm waking up, I'm watching ball.

Speaker 15 And I'm in my mind, I'm like, there's not 64 tight ends better than me in this league. And I know I could be out there helping somebody win.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 15 And like, especially for what I do at this point in my career, like, I'm the best at this, right? Like, just point of contact, setting the edge, rock setting and play pass. Like, you know how it is.

Speaker 15 Like, it's, yeah, oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 10 I take somebody. I'm unlocking.
We flip the thing up. Hey, we'll scoop it.
Whatever you want, whatever you want to do.

Speaker 10 Hey, if y'all want to put play, let me be gilligan i get on that island if i need to come on

Speaker 15 and so hey hey and then that's and that's kind of where i'm at and um you know today

Speaker 15 sean payton pulled me aside and was like

Speaker 15 i've been watching you for the last eight years like even when i was in green bay the saints kept trying to get me when he was with the saints he's like i just want you to know that i've been watching you for the last eight years i know what you're about

Speaker 15 Everybody talks about how you are as a person. Like, I get it, but you're not staying in this league for as long as you have have just from being a great leader.
You've been dominant.

Speaker 15 We need somebody like you. And so they made me feel valued.
They made me feel welcome. And

Speaker 15 to be honest with you guys, like today was the first time I felt like

Speaker 15 nervous. Wow.

Speaker 15 Because it was like,

Speaker 15 I'm 41.

Speaker 11 I didn't do camp.

Speaker 15 No OTAs.

Speaker 15 What's my reaction time? Like, regardless if I'm working out, right?

Speaker 10 Like, like it ain't you ain't work you ain't playing football exactly

Speaker 10 exactly

Speaker 10 and

Speaker 15 i really question myself like the night before going to sign my contract and then going to practice like i'm in there and i'm like you know he's they give it like you know they give me the playbook all of that i'm looking through and i'm like okay

Speaker 15 every hour that went by today i felt more and more confident like I get in there and it's just like all my teammates are like, you know, you know, just loving me up, bro. and i'm just like damn like

Speaker 15 this is where i'm supposed to be you know and it and it feels good and all right once i got on the field bro it was just like riding the bike so i'm i'm grateful for the moment i've always been in gratitude i i lead with um

Speaker 15 just gratitude man and i

Speaker 15 yeah it's special bro joe you had a question

Speaker 11 Yeah, that's I wanted to say, first off, Mercedes, man, congrats on 20 years, bro. That's a long time, especially in the NFL.

Speaker 11 What's the biggest difference? What would you say the biggest difference is from like year one to like year 20 now?

Speaker 11 Would it be mindset, training, obviously? You know, what would probably be the biggest difference for me?

Speaker 15 I think the biggest difference for me, bro, is

Speaker 15 the time I had to form a routine.

Speaker 15 Because when I first got into the league, right, like those first three years, you're trying to figure out who you are.

Speaker 11 Right? Like you,

Speaker 15 you know, you're athletic, you know, that like you can do some things, but you don't know if you can consistently get it done at that level, right?

Speaker 15 Like, absolutely, you're playing against guys that got families that

Speaker 15 are not having it. And when I got to Jacksonville,

Speaker 15 dogs in Jacksonville, like

Speaker 15 I was raised with the wolves in Jacksonville, you know what I mean?

Speaker 10 So, I feel like being in that environment

Speaker 15 made like molded me into who I am today.

Speaker 10 And

Speaker 15 I would say after year three, I started to form this routine. How, like, my in-season workout recovery does not change for my out-of-season workout and recovery.

Speaker 15 And mind you, I said out-of-season and not off-season. I don't take it off, right? Like, I,

Speaker 15 it's maybe two and a half weeks of just letting my body heal. And, and that means infrared and cold tub.
I'm still doing something to keep the blood flow, right?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 15 Once it gets close to February, like right after Super Bowl, I've been training mixed martial arts now for 15 years.

Speaker 15 So whether it's jiu-jitsu, Muay Thai, wrestling, judo, whatever it is, I would do that from February all the way to May. I do not step on the field until the end of May going into July.

Speaker 15 Once I hit the field in June, I get on the grass, straight ahead running, and then we do like 400 breakdowns on the track.

Speaker 15 And then that's really about it. I'll do like cone stuff, but not too many routes.
Even in my prime when I was catching the ball, it wasn't a lot of routes and like putting that pressure on my knees.

Speaker 15 And then when I would get to camp, I would be peaking at the perfect time. And like, I really just feel like that regimen has paid me back right now because I still have my legs.

Speaker 15 I went to Jacksonville where we were run first, play action, pass, right? Like,

Speaker 15 you know, Jimmy Smith was getting out of there. Keenan McCardell had just got out of there.
It was like Freddie T, Maurice Drew. Obviously, we had Kyle Brady at tight end.

Speaker 15 I was backing him up as a rookie. And then I ended up starting as a

Speaker 11 secondary guy.

Speaker 15 exactly and it was like

Speaker 15 we ran the ball bro for at least four or five years straight and I was still getting my numbers you know I went all pro my fifth year pro bowl all of that but not like I should have right

Speaker 15 and right I would always be like damn man like was I supposed to get drafted here like I came out of UCLA Mackey Award winner all the records doing my thing like I came to Jacksonville and I'm like bro I'm blocking ISO power I'm doing you know what I mean like I'm not really being used like they drafted me in the first round so I didn't get it.

Speaker 10 That's the best thing to happen for you, Marcedes. You didn't know it.

Speaker 10 Because had you put up those numbers early, and now all of a sudden you're in year 10, year 11, year 12, and they're not the same as they were in year three or four.

Speaker 10 Now, all of a sudden, they're going to say you're losing it. But because you didn't have 80, 90 catches in the beginning, they're like,

Speaker 10 and what we're asking him to do hasn't changed for what he's been asked to do the previous 10, the previous 12, the previous 15. We looked it up, Mercedes.

Speaker 10 There have only been one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen players to play at least 20 years or more. Most of them,

Speaker 10 as you could imagine, are kickers.

Speaker 10 George Blando played 26 seasons. He was a quarterback, but his last couple of years, he was mainly a kicker.
Morton Anderson, 25, kicker. Adam Vellanteri, 24, kicker.
Tom Brady, 23, quarterback.

Speaker 10 John Carney, 23, kicker. Gary Anderson, kicker.
Jeff Fiegels, 21, punter. Earl Morrow played 21 as a quarterback.
Jackie Slater, offensive lineman. Daryl Green, cornerback.

Speaker 10 Vinny Testa Verdi, quarterback. Brett Favre, quarterback.
Jason Hansen, kicker. And now Mercedes-Lewis is on this list of guys that have played at least 20 seasons or more.
And you played a position.

Speaker 10 Now, Jackie, I would say Jackie might have had, because Jackie had to bang every play 20 years

Speaker 10 for 20 years sometimes you got to run you got to run you got to run routes and it wasn't

Speaker 10 20 years is still

Speaker 10 crazy let me ask you this are you married mercedes no

Speaker 10 Because I was going to say that's an awful long time to ask somebody like, hey, I need you to make these sacrifices for 20. I need you to pick up the kids.
I need you to be the PTA.

Speaker 10 I need you to be the recitals and the football games and all this and all that other stuff.

Speaker 10 So you understand the sacrifices that you make but when you have a partner you're also asking them to make said sacrifices 100

Speaker 10 as well yeah absolutely hey mercedes you what what combo sports you do again jiu-jitsu uh muay thai jiu-jitsu a little bit of judo some wrestling i don't really i think that's you right there ojo oh you a ocho ready ocho say he wants to do a little

Speaker 10 say you know he hold on hold on hold on but you know i got a black belt and all that you got a brown belt too to hold your pants up mercedes i think you hey that's what we want right here, Mercedes and Ocho.

Speaker 11 Hey, well, you know,

Speaker 11 I got a, I got a black belt, I got a black belt in Jiu-Jitsu.

Speaker 11 Yeah, you heard her. Hey, let me tell you something.
I'm gonna say, when I'm done with James Harris and I beat his ass, I mean, you, I'm, you, you, welcome.

Speaker 10 We, we can, I mean, whatever you want to do, oh, you're starting somebody like at 140. Listen, man, I didn't say he's 6'6, 265, 270.

Speaker 11 Hey,

Speaker 11 listen to me. Mercedes, I'm 6'4, 230, man.

Speaker 10 What you doing? But he do that, OJo. So you not got to worry about his conditioning.
He fight. He MMA.
He trains like that. So you know his conditioning.
And I just threw the roof.

Speaker 11 Hold on. Time out.
Time out, man. Stop playing with me on Sweet Jesus, man.
I trained.

Speaker 15 It's just different. It's just different, though, Ocho.
It's

Speaker 15 like if we was just straight boxing,

Speaker 15 potentially, like, you may be able to land a couple shots, but I'll still fight behind my jab and

Speaker 10 listen no hold on i land a cop of shot your ass in boxing now you see how you see how calm i am right now

Speaker 10 how you gonna get i'm calm right now you're gonna let me ask you a question ocho how you gonna get up you don't you've never fought from your back you don't know how to get up Who you talk about, man?

Speaker 11 I could fight off my back foot, front foot.

Speaker 10 Yo, I said your back, not your back. From a distance.
Your back. Your back.

Speaker 11 Oh, I'm what you. Hey,

Speaker 11 I was a state champion grappler.

Speaker 11 your ground game like that.

Speaker 10 No, my ground game

Speaker 10 game like that running.

Speaker 10 Yeah, nah.

Speaker 15 It would be it would be dope to roll with you though, Ocho, if you ever want to roll.

Speaker 10 Obviously, yeah, let me know, let me know, let me know.

Speaker 11 Hey, what's wrong with my goddamn camera?

Speaker 10 Don't start me lying. It's your camera.

Speaker 10 We got Marcedes talking about, you know, hey, if you want, if you want to bang a little bit, he, hey, he's ready. He got the gear and everything.

Speaker 15 Ocho logging off now, huh?

Speaker 10 Nah, he is hey hey

Speaker 10 hey spray hey spray mercedes bro

Speaker 10 man

Speaker 10 i don't know no spare me the only thing only spare i know about is a tie and it's in my trunk so let me ask you a question so where's home mercedes uh sherman oaks now oh okay okay okay so you you stay you stayed in cali yeah i'm i'm in la

Speaker 15 um I bought my mom a house in Lakewood, which is about 30 minutes from Long Beach, where I grew up at.

Speaker 15 We spent some time in like South Central, used to relationship, all that. You know how it go.
And

Speaker 15 for me, I bought a house in the casino and then obviously the fires happened. It got close to the crib.
Thankfully, I was able to sell my house

Speaker 15 last year. And then now it's more so just renting to be more cash-free because I'm not sure what I was going to do.
Was I going to play a 20th year or potentially go to the front office or whatever?

Speaker 15 I just didn't know. And so

Speaker 15 now I got to hold that off for another two months or three months and figure that out.

Speaker 10 But that's what, so you're looking at potentially thinking the valley is probably going to be where you set drop anchor at i think so but it's going to be california not necessarily the valley because we don't want to give out your information right well you know probably california you're a cali kid at heart so that's probably where you're going to set up shop yeah like california is uh

Speaker 15 you know i i feel like like me and my mom are like best friends too i don't know if i could just you know bounce on her like that and then that far away from her yeah and so like i would probably rather stay there but i'm i love to travel too so even if

Speaker 15 even if I like got something again in California, it would probably be like just a dope penthouse or something, something.

Speaker 10 I don't have to worry about maintenance.

Speaker 15 I want the panoramic and I could just pull up, plug and play, and then I travel because

Speaker 15 having the house and all that is up, the mortgage, bro, I'm over it. I'm over paying mortgages and interest rates.

Speaker 10 And I'm just over it.

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 15 So I just, you know, the older you get, like for me, I've been more of a minimalist or minimalist, the older I've gotten. And so I realized that I don't need a whole bunch to find joy.

Speaker 15 Like I'm, I'm happy inside, you know? So

Speaker 15 all the other things that like, and mind you, playing in Jacksonville, it's not, it wasn't the real NFL experience, right? Like it's not, there's nothing in Jacksonville, right?

Speaker 10 No. You heard that Duval?

Speaker 10 Come on.

Speaker 15 I mean, when I got to Jacksonville, they robbing players.

Speaker 10 It was barely any gas line.

Speaker 15 Dudes was getting stuck up at gas stations. No, swear to God, dudes was getting stuck up at gas stations.

Speaker 11 It was just not. I was like, dude, what am I? What am I doing out here? Like, I was born in Long Beach.
I saw all that in Long Beach.

Speaker 10 Went to UCLA.

Speaker 11 That changed, right? I'm in Brentwood.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you in Westwood.

Speaker 10 You between Brentwood and Beverly.

Speaker 15 I get to Jacksonville. I'm like, okay.

Speaker 11 We're going backwards now as far as like how I'm living, right?

Speaker 15 And so, yeah, man, at this point, I'm just like,

Speaker 15 the least that I have to worry about, least overhead that I have to worry about, can I just pack a bag and go travel and go see the world?

Speaker 15 Because playing ball, I've been playing Pop Warner since I was seven, have not stopped. I'm 41.
When I retire after this year, I just want to see the world, man, like in a real way, you know?

Speaker 11 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 10 Well, you know, at your size, you know, everybody going to think you did something.

Speaker 10 They go, so you go to a foreign country, they're going to be poor. They like, you did something.

Speaker 10 You ain't just big for no reason walking around. Nah.

Speaker 15 And I'm low-key too. Like, I've already checked into it, like certain places, especially in South America.

Speaker 15 Like I've been in Costa Rica for my birthday, but like I'm getting NFL to give me some security or something. Like I'm not.

Speaker 15 I'm not walking around, you know, dilly dabbling and not expecting nothing to happen. So

Speaker 10 you definitely got to be on, you got to, hey, you got to be on your best behavior, watch your six at all times. And the best thing to do is say, hey, NFL, hey, hook it up for your boy.

Speaker 15 Come on, man.

Speaker 10 Set me up, please. Right.

Speaker 10 Hey, when you're at the Broncos, what number are you wearing?

Speaker 15 wearing i'm wearing 89.

Speaker 10 oh okay you got cars i thought you go get 84 i was like man make the 84 look good what last time man nah you uh

Speaker 15 best to ever do it bro and

Speaker 15 ain't no way ain't no way

Speaker 15 and i and i wouldn't even

Speaker 15 i just wouldn't just out of just the respect and and it was crazy because you came up like i'm in there and they're like what number do you want i'm like 89.

Speaker 15 And they're looking at the thing I was like, yeah, there's no 89. And then I looked at Sean Payton and Sean Payton was like, yeah, the best tight end ever played here is 84.

Speaker 15 i said yeah he's one of the best ever playing this league too

Speaker 15 you know what i mean so like and that's that's all positions so that's not even a question like

Speaker 10 i appreciate that man 100

Speaker 10 hey man enjoy it man hey Broncos look good. They got a nice defense is in a sensational bowl nicknames is playing really well.

Speaker 10 Cortland Sutton, Mims, hey, they got guys that can go make plays, they can run the football with Harvey and Dobbins. Hey, keep it going, man.
And who knows? Might see your same friend, baby.

Speaker 15 Hey, let's do it, man. I appreciate you guys.
Thanks for having me, bro. This is the first time, you know, me and Sharp actually had a conversation.
So I was geek for that.

Speaker 15 Ocho, we always be seeing each other out and hollering at each other. Joe, it was a pleasure, man.
Respect your courage, bro.

Speaker 10 We're going to say that. We're going to say that at MM, whatever, Mu Tai Jitsu, whatever you want to do, whatever you call it, or Mercedes, you call it.
Okay. And we'll get Ocho there.

Speaker 10 And we'll have the paramedic pick him up and bring him back. back.

Speaker 15 For sure, man. Appreciate y'all.
Love, man. Thank you.

Speaker 10 Appreciate you, bro. Have a good man.
Thank you, bro.

Speaker 10 Hey, that's unbelievable, man. Hey, 20 years playing that position.
I think, guys, I think I know I could have got 15, but ain't no way in hell I could have got 20. Yeah.

Speaker 11 Why not? Why you say that?

Speaker 10 You know,

Speaker 10 because, Joe, we used to hit. We bang.
We don't do that bullshit that we doing now. Oh, Joe, you better tell him.

Speaker 10 Hey.

Speaker 11 Hey, it was different. It was different back then.
It was different. Yeah.

Speaker 10 I came up in the 90s where we were shells were shoulder pads. It wasn't that sort of the shells that you have up underneath your pads.
That's what they call shells now.

Speaker 10 We literally had on shoulder pads and shorts. That was a shell day.
But you thudded up.

Speaker 10 You thudded. You had on full pads Wednesday and Thursday.
You thudded up. 907 was real.
Team was like,

Speaker 10 hey,

Speaker 10 we were thumping. Training camp were hell.
It wasn't no walkthrough. It was hell.
We putting people on the ground in training camp. And, you know, we do what they do now, these joint practices, OJo.

Speaker 10 But we was going overseas. So we would go overseas.
Let's just say we went to Berlin. And so we would get there on like a Sunday.
We scrimmage. We scrimmage in

Speaker 10 the Dolphins.

Speaker 10 You know, we go places.

Speaker 10 We scrimmage in the 49ers. We scrimmage in

Speaker 10 Seattle when we go to Japan. But yeah, it was.

Speaker 10 man, that's it's a lot.

Speaker 11 Hey, it's it's a lot of fluff going on.

Speaker 10 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Look, I'm not saying, look, I'm not saying the guys aren't talented because they're super talented.
Because, you know, look, there's this thing called evolution. Players get better.

Speaker 10 They're more equipped. They know more.
The training is better. They eat better.

Speaker 10 The cold tubs and they got

Speaker 10 red lights on it and all those things. Those things are better now.

Speaker 10 But hey,

Speaker 10 we banged for real, for real. You heard him say Oklahoma.
They ain't doing no Oklahoma no more, Ojo.

Speaker 11 Nah, hey, absolutely not. Absolutely not.

Speaker 10 Hey, hey, hey, huh.

Speaker 11 I need to fix this camera, man. Hey, I um

Speaker 11 You know, I got to get it. I got a new computer.

Speaker 11 I got a new camera because obviously the last two shows, I had to use the laptop camera because the USB wasn't recognizing the camera for me to use the actual Sony.

Speaker 11 So, you know, I bought a new camera today. I bought a new laptop, Joe.
And they gave me,

Speaker 11 and even with the new laptop and new camera, it still wasn't recognizing the camera. So they gave me a cam link.
Is that what it's called? Yeah, a cam link.

Speaker 11 So I got the cam link, you know, plugged into the port, and it was able to recognize on Zoom. But now I don't know what's going on.

Speaker 11 It keeps going in and out.

Speaker 10 The little El Gato thing. I'm trying to say, since you ain't paid me my $5900, it's going to keep doing that.

Speaker 11 And my $100.

Speaker 10 God damn.

Speaker 11 Might as well throw it in now, OJo. I owe you two, Joe.
Man, come on.

Speaker 11 Why we got to get to this every time?

Speaker 11 I'm just saying, Joe, I don't remember betting you, Joe. I don't remember.

Speaker 11 I know, I know, I know, I owe Unc, but I told Uncle John.

Speaker 11 You just said on a couple shows ago that you remember owing me $100.

Speaker 11 For real? Yeah, and I told you the season has started back and everything. But I told you, I ain't going to hold that against you.
Well, hold on, hold on, Joe. Let me check the books.

Speaker 11 Let me check the books.

Speaker 10 Let me check the books.

Speaker 11 If I check the books, I'm going to make sure I'm going to get back to you. Okay.
As far as Uncle concerned, listen, Uncle, listen, Uncle had to get that back in blood.

Speaker 10 You had to get that back in black. I got to get it back in blood.
Man, I just, I'll be

Speaker 10 a friendly wager, man.

Speaker 11 Man, listen, listen, let me stay with me real quick, Joe. Hey, Joe, listen to me, Joe.
Joe, I've been, I've been begging Uncle Mafunko. I've been begging Uncle for my high school jersey.

Speaker 11 I've been begging for the awards. Hey, Joe, he ain't sent me nothing, Joe.
So you're saying you got to hold his funds.

Speaker 11 Hold on, not only that, Joe, I had to go break in his house and steal two of my trophies.

Speaker 11 Hey, Joe, I had to go steal these Joe.

Speaker 10 You hear me? Oh, man.

Speaker 10 I put on my shy. I put on my shy.
I got a football jersey.

Speaker 11 Oh, man, that too. It looked good.
Hey, you might want to say that.

Speaker 10 You think your last name, Johnson? They make you play. Come on, stop playing.

Speaker 11 Come on, man. Man, you can sit that right over here.
Hey, you see, hey, Joe, see how y'all playing?

Speaker 11 Hey, see how y'all playing?

Speaker 10 You want the red one or the white one, Joe?

Speaker 11 What?

Speaker 11 Oh, yeah. Hey, I won number two in Atlanta.

Speaker 10 Yeah, perfect.

Speaker 11 Get that on over here. I'll tell you.

Speaker 10 Hey, there y'all go.

Speaker 10 Hey, there y'all go.

Speaker 11 Hey, listen. Hey, listen.

Speaker 11 It's one thing about it. Oh, Mary had a little lamb.

Speaker 11 Don't maybe put that shyste on.

Speaker 13 You hear me?

Speaker 11 Yeah, all right.

Speaker 10 Hey, you know what, Joe?

Speaker 10 I'm about to put this pool stick on this man here.

Speaker 10 Hey, you remember back in the day, the country Joe go cross your head with a pool stick? I'm not about to do it.

Speaker 10 Bet the old choice ain't gonna do right. I be about to go put a pool stick upside in the head, chat.

Speaker 11 Hey, y'all, that thing looks brand new over there, man. You put some use to it, been you,

Speaker 11 yeah. Hey, hey, Joe, he don't play no pool, man.
How you gonna bend over? How you gonna bend over on the table? He ain't got no hips.

Speaker 10 Oh, man. Hey, Joe, yeah, he can't.
Right there, though, Joe. You see that?

Speaker 11 Okay, he knows. I see how he's holding it.

Speaker 10 He knows a little something.

Speaker 11 Hey, okay. Joe,

Speaker 10 anybody can hold a tennis racket. That call me Georgia Slim.

Speaker 10 I beat fast.

Speaker 11 Hey, hey, Joe.

Speaker 11 Anybody know how to hold a tennis racket? Anybody know how to hold a golf club?

Speaker 10 Don't mean they can golf. Anybody know how to hold it?

Speaker 11 Hey, hey, man, we got a stream. We got a stream of pool game.

Speaker 10 I beat a spray stop, Ocho. I don't know about you, Joe, but I beat that.
Oh, yeah, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey. Time out.
Hey, hey,

Speaker 11 you got a pool stick that hasn't been used. You don't know how to play no.

Speaker 10 Don't worry about what's been used. I use it on you.
You remember how grandma had them switches in the corner? They ain't been used either.

Speaker 10 Until you act up and all of a sudden she uses them on you.

Speaker 11 You see, hey, Joe,

Speaker 11 that's going to be our show, Joe. When football season ends,

Speaker 11 I got a TVU backpack, right? I haven't been able to use it. So, you know how you got all the streamers, Kaiser Nodding, James Donald, all them boys.
So we don't have nothing for the old folks

Speaker 10 or the older crowd.

Speaker 11 I see you. I see you.

Speaker 11 Hey, Joe, boy, we've listened. We're going to have old folks time.

Speaker 11 We're going to bowl. We're going to go fishing.

Speaker 10 We're going to play. Baseball.
I already know you don't know.

Speaker 10 We're going to court everybody. You don't know how to fishing.
You don't know how to set no hook. You don't know how to set no line.
You don't know nothing

Speaker 10 about no fishing. You don't.

Speaker 11 Hey, wait a minute. See,

Speaker 11 that's how I know. Hey, that's how I know he don't know about me.
I'm from Miami.

Speaker 11 Hey, I used to catch Goliath Grouper back in 83.

Speaker 10 What Cat of Grouper?

Speaker 10 Goliath Group.

Speaker 10 They put your ass in jail. You catch a Goliath Grouper.

Speaker 10 Hey, hold on.

Speaker 11 Hold on, Uncle. I threw him back.

Speaker 10 I threw him back.

Speaker 10 You don't throw it back. They're going to throw your ass in jail.

Speaker 10 You can't keep your Goliath Group.

Speaker 11 Yeah, hey, but listen, listen, statement real quick, real quick. They used to take me.
They used to take me to fishermen. They call him Captain Jack.

Speaker 11 Captain Jack used to take me deep sea fishing. We used to catch Goliath Grouper.

Speaker 10 Oh, Lord.

Speaker 11 Matter of fact, when he couldn't bring it in, I used to get it.

Speaker 10 You don't actually go fishing for Goliath Grouper. They actually like just bite.
So, what were you actually fishing?

Speaker 11 We caught him by accident. We caught him by accident.
He was like 630 pounds.

Speaker 10 So, what were you actually fishing for? Snapper? Were you fishing for tuna? Bread Zeno? What were you actually fishing for?

Speaker 11 Tuna. Oh, Lord.

Speaker 10 I'm mercy.

Speaker 10 That boy here.

Speaker 11 We were fishing for tuna.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 10 Yeah, you want yourself to be able to embarrass you. I'll oblige you.

Speaker 10 We'll go deep sea fishing. We go shore fishing.
We go whatever.

Speaker 10 We go bass fishing. We can go crappie fishing.
We can go sheephead fishing.

Speaker 10 Black drum.

Speaker 10 Hey, whatever.

Speaker 11 Wait a minute. Let's do the hardest one.
Let's do the hardest one. Let's go spear fishing.

Speaker 10 Let's go spear fishing.

Speaker 11 Yeah, okay, okay, okay. Yeah, I'm a nomad.
I can hold my breath by six minutes.

Speaker 10 Oh, Lord, have mercy.

Speaker 11 Spit, let's go spit fish. I'm telling you what.
Yeah, hey, hey, hey, I'm a free dive.

Speaker 10 Look,

Speaker 10 we can go catch perch. We can catch bluegill.
We can go fish whatever. I'm not going hunting with a fish.

Speaker 10 First of all,

Speaker 10 I'm going to need you to get six months of your gun training before I go hunting with you. Because you're not fit to shoot me in my ass.

Speaker 11 Hey, no, no.

Speaker 11 I ain't going to shoot you.

Speaker 10 I ain't going to angle shooting.

Speaker 11 Hell no. But you know how to.
Hey, Uncle, stay with me now. I know how how to work a pistol.
You hear me?

Speaker 10 First of all, who's going hunting with a pistol?

Speaker 10 What the hell are you hunting for?

Speaker 10 What you hunting for?

Speaker 10 What do you, oh, Joe? Hey, hold on. We either go.

Speaker 10 I use an ARCHIS.

Speaker 10 Oh, we taking a high-power rifle. 30-30, 30-06, 308, something like that.

Speaker 11 I got my switch. I don't need all that.

Speaker 10 Ain't nobody going no damn switching on there.

Speaker 10 Betty, what I'm trying to talk about, Jack. You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 11 Hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, he's tripping.

Speaker 11 Hey, Joe, let me show you how I'm going to hunt.

Speaker 10 You're going to be going to the club. I'm going to the woods.
I'm trying to.

Speaker 10 We're going to kill

Speaker 10 white-tailed.

Speaker 10 We're going to kill hogs or something. He'll up there talking about some bull giant.
Or we go quail hunting, pheasant hunting. I don't care.

Speaker 10 But I need him to get some training because I'm not going nowhere with no gun with Ocho. And he ain't never shot a gun a day in his damn life.

Speaker 10 He ain't finished shoot me in my ass.

Speaker 11 Hey, listen, me and the homies, we used to go paintball and we used to go paintball and we divide up in teams. It'd be like five of the team.

Speaker 11 Then we split up out in the woods and they come back in and say, Man, I can't be on this dude's team.

Speaker 10 This dude just shot me in my face out of wheat team. Exactly.

Speaker 10 Man, that's about he ain't talking about he going hunting. He ain't bad talking about he going hunting with a pistol.
Who the hell with a pistol?

Speaker 11 Uh-oh. There you go.
Hey, Joe. Hey, the animals ain't even gonna see me coming, Joe.

Speaker 10 Oh, man.

Speaker 11 Hey, they ain't gonna see me coming, Joe.

Speaker 10 Oh, Joe, do you know how to get in a tree stand?

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Do I know how to get in a tree stand?

Speaker 10 But

Speaker 11 I built a tree house back in.

Speaker 11 Joe, can you? I had a tree house when I was 13.

Speaker 11 I had been a tree by myself.

Speaker 10 This man don't know how to stand in no tree stand. He don't know how to sit still.

Speaker 10 First of all,

Speaker 10 he's got a tree stand.

Speaker 11 Hold on, wait a minute. I went with Carson Palmer.
I went with Carson and Jordan Palmer. They took me they took me deer hunting.
I was in the tree stand for seven hours.

Speaker 11 I had to douse myself with people.

Speaker 10 Yeah, dope is

Speaker 10 but anyway, Ocho, Joe, he gonna go out there with Creed on and all the animals go smell his ass from a mile away. Hell no.
I ain't going nowhere with you.

Speaker 10 He done got on. No, no,

Speaker 10 no.

Speaker 10 He don't know how to try. He don't know how to stay.

Speaker 10 He don't know how to stay. I'm not.
No.

Speaker 11 I'm going to chill. Hey, Joe, everything he talk about, I done did, Joe.
I done did.

Speaker 11 I just, it's not something that

Speaker 11 I'm excited about, but I've done everything once, Joe. I've done everything once.
All the hunting, all that fishing, all that dealing with.

Speaker 10 You know how to stay down wind, Joe?

Speaker 10 You know how to stay down when?

Speaker 11 Yeah, you ain't got no choice but to stay down win because if you don't stay down wind, they gonna know you there.

Speaker 11 They got the, hey, listen, them animals out there got the greatest sense of smell of all spectrums.

Speaker 10 That's why I'm not going with you because you go out at that with

Speaker 10 on.

Speaker 11 I ain't gonna wear no cologne. Uncle I ain't even showered in three days.

Speaker 10 Hey, he don't know how to wear no camouflage. He's out there with a red Cristiano Ronaldo jersey.
It's about damn,

Speaker 10 where the animals at once smell it. They see your ass with that big old red jersey.
Oh, that would have fed their ass.

Speaker 10 He don't know how to wear no camouflage.

Speaker 10 Man, I ain't fooling without your pants.

Speaker 10 Man,

Speaker 10 he don't know how to dress, man. He ain't got no gear.

Speaker 10 Boy, listen. Hey,

Speaker 11 I got some camouflage, young. Hey, listen.
I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 11 I ain't going to lie. That'll be a sight to see, boy.
Yeah. That's why we're going to stream it.
We're going to stream it 24-7.

Speaker 10 I know how to hunt. If we go a squirrel hunting, we go a rabbit hunting, we go a quail hunting.
First of all, Ocho, you ain't never shot no gun. You never shot no animal on the move?

Speaker 11 Hold on, time out, huh? I done hit squirrels back in the day, huh? I done hit raccoons and opossum down here in my life. What do you shoot with that BB gun, that Pelican?

Speaker 11 With me? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Oh, no, I had a 64.

Speaker 10 A 64?

Speaker 11 What the hell is that? Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah, see, that's what I'm talking about. That's how I know you ain't no shooter.

Speaker 10 First of all, we didn't know what a 64 is. Yeah.
First of all,

Speaker 11 that's what we carry. Hey, Uncle, that's what we carry down here in the crib.
I don't see it.

Speaker 10 I'm telling you, you shoot a squirrel. First of all, use a rifle, man, because it's a small animal.
You don't want to mess up the meat shooting.

Speaker 11 No, no, no, no, no, no. Uncle, let me tell you something.
Hey, Joe, anytime you shoot a squirrel, you got to set an an example.

Speaker 10 What you set the example for? You want to eat the squirrel?

Speaker 11 For the rest of the squirrels, I'm not the one to play.

Speaker 10 Don't come right here with that bull jab.

Speaker 11 Don't come right here. Hey, you kill an ant with a sledgehammer.
Yes. You ain't got to worry about no ants.

Speaker 10 But what you're trying to do, because you're going to eat the squirrel, Ocho, if you shoot him with a shotgun,

Speaker 10 you're going to mess that what ain't going to be nothing there.

Speaker 10 Oh, you want to eat it? He ain't eating it, uh.

Speaker 10 Fuck. Oh, no, no, no.

Speaker 11 I'm shooting the squirrel to set an example for the rest of the squirrels not to come over here messing with the mangoes in the tree. I don't care about that.

Speaker 10 The squirrels come out. Look, first of all, Ocho, we going out.
We ain't shooting no city squirrels. I don't care nothing about that.
First of all, you're going to see the city.

Speaker 10 I come from the city.

Speaker 11 We're not eating the squirrels.

Speaker 11 We're not eating the squirrels in the city. You eat the squirrels in the city.

Speaker 10 That's what I'm saying. That's what we want to hunt.
You can't hunt in the city.

Speaker 11 No, but I'm saying, I mean, I can adapt.

Speaker 11 That's what life is about. It's about about adapting.
So I can adapt to what you like to do. If I got to be in the woods, I know how to activate it.

Speaker 10 Have you ever shot a shotgun before? A 12 gauge? Yeah.

Speaker 10 410? 20 gauge? Have you ever shot a high-powered rifle? 30 oh six, 30, 30, 308.

Speaker 11 Let me tell you, before football, I was in the field. You hear me?

Speaker 11 Hey, Joe, Uncle don't know.

Speaker 11 Hey, Joe, I was like that, Joe. On Sweet Jesus.
I was like that. I'm telling you.

Speaker 11 I ain't played. You was like the Yans out here? Man, listen, Joe, I'm not proud of that lifestyle I used to live back in 87.

Speaker 10 But see, first of all, the YN, that's, I mean, shooting somebody at point. It's not like they're shooting somebody from a distance.
You're not finna walk.

Speaker 10 You're not going to shoot an animal as close as somebody shooting a human being. You do realize it's like

Speaker 10 three, y'all like 10 feet less than 25 yards from each other. You shooting an animal from a distance, Ocho.

Speaker 11 You do know, you do know I was in the Marines, right?

Speaker 11 You do know I was in the Marines, right?

Speaker 11 Do you do you do know I was a sniper?

Speaker 10 Yeah, you a sniper, huh?

Speaker 11 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Oh, Lord have mercy.

Speaker 11 Hey,

Speaker 11 I hit a target from 420 feet, Joe.

Speaker 11 420 feet. At the bottle top, the bottle top off of a Coke bottle.

Speaker 10 You don't aim like that. No, that man ain't shooting, hit nothing over no 100 yards.
That's

Speaker 10 hey, Joe, 420 feet.

Speaker 10 He might not hit a person from 100 yards away, let alone a damn bottle top.

Speaker 10 Joe, this is how you do it.

Speaker 11 I lie for you before I lie to you, Joe.

Speaker 11 I knocked a bottle top off a Coke bottle from 420 feet, and I only got a lot of money.

Speaker 10 You know how hard it is to hit an object from that far away, that small?

Speaker 10 Let me ask you a question. Take your glasses off.
Take your glasses off. Let me see how you shoot.
Take your glasses off.

Speaker 10 Holy, put the gun up.

Speaker 10 Okay, you got the gun. How you shooting?

Speaker 15 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 10 Oh, hell, hell, this man got a slingshot. Bitch man got a slingshot, Joe.

Speaker 10 Hey, Joe.

Speaker 10 Hey, Joe. This man got a slingshot.
Second of all, you shooting from that distance. You got both eyes open, Ocho.
You not shooting from nowhere.

Speaker 10 I thought this man got a slingshot, Joe. This man be thinking he.
Hey, he shooting Goliath. And he David.
Hey, Joe.

Speaker 11 Hey, hey, I ain't gonna lie. I ain't gonna lie.
Okay, Ocho, boy, that'll be some must-see TV, boy. I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
Hey, hey, hey, I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 11 Ocho, I don't think you can hit anything out there.

Speaker 10 I don't think you can.

Speaker 10 Hey, hey, hey, listen.

Speaker 11 That's what I like people to think. I can't hit that.
I can't hit this. But then they get hit.

Speaker 10 It's like, oh, he really liked that. Ocho,

Speaker 10 if you were to try to shoot somebody, because you got to understand the distance in which you are. But I'm talking about an animal.
I'm talking about a deer. I'm talking about a hog.

Speaker 10 I'm talking about a

Speaker 10 hip up in a tree. I'm talking about a quail because here's the thing.
Let's just say we take dogs out. So the dogs going to

Speaker 10 start creeping up. Now

Speaker 10 they're going to freeze.

Speaker 10 And now.

Speaker 10 Yeah.

Speaker 11 Yeah. Hey, Uncle,

Speaker 11 I used to have pointers. I used to have pointers.
I live in the city.

Speaker 10 Chad, y'all believe Ocho can shoot.

Speaker 10 I mean, look at that. Look at that Ocho, the way he aiming and shooting that slingshot.
He not about to hit nothing.

Speaker 10 All right.

Speaker 11 Tell you, hey, I'm, hey, oh, I'm uncommon to surprise you out there.

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