Deebo & Joe - MNF Reaction: Dak Prescott & the Cowboys beat the Raiders + Ja’Marr Chase suspended

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Speaker 7 How are you doing today, Joe?

Speaker 9 Let me tell you something, Debo. Debo, it's my time real quick.

Speaker 7 What's up? Welcome back to Debo and Joe. I'm your host, James Debo Harrison.
I'm here with my co-host, Joe Hayden.

Speaker 7 Please make sure you guys like and subscribe you don't want to miss nothing hey look here you got a little bit of a different view right now because my equipment done malfunction so i'm actually shooting from the camera itself in the laptop so that's what that's what we got going on joe

Speaker 7 man i peep man the pre-production show we was hot we were trying to get it figured out you know i'm saying trying to witch cameras we got bad angles but you know what this is good debo i'm just from afar you look perfect, brother.

Speaker 7 Listen, man, this might be something to do with X. Man, I'm gonna have to call Jeff again, man.
I'm gonna call Bezos, man, see what he's doing, man. I know he had something to do with

Speaker 7 Elon. Elon, that's the other one, too.
Elon is ex

Speaker 7 Jeff, but both of them, they probably working together right now, trying to

Speaker 7 jack a boy up. So they want to raise the price on something.
Elon and already got a trillion dollars. Like, come on, man.
You got enough. Too much cheese.
Like, what are we talking about?

Speaker 7 Hey, look here, man. Let's get this started, Joe.

Speaker 7 Cowboys went out here and put their hands on the Raiders. Yes.
They put their hands on the Raiders. Check it out, though.
Check it out, though. Check it out, though.

Speaker 7 George and CD,

Speaker 7 they benched them, man, for the first couple of series, man. They said it was a coach's decision.
Reportedly, they violated some team rules. Look here, man.

Speaker 7 I'm going to tell you what happened now. Yeah,

Speaker 7 what you think happened?

Speaker 7 We're going to get it started. I'm going to tell you what happened through the process now, okay? Okay.

Speaker 7 Dallas went on ahead. They got up out there, right?

Speaker 7 Raiders went in there, forced the three and out, right?

Speaker 7 They punt the ball off. Raiders get the rock.

Speaker 7 They go ahead. They don't really do too much and nothing.
Geno went on ahead, hit, I think it was the tight end for 18 on the first play.

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 I think they dropped Ginny for like a one or two yard loss, something like that.

Speaker 7 And then Geno almost got sacked. He was able to shake it off but they end up punting

Speaker 7 and then the ball get down inside the five yard line so dallas come back out there right okay

Speaker 7 they get they get one first down conversion and then that next first down that boy crosby ran up in there and said sack fumble recovery yeah Yeah, he was on Dak's head early.

Speaker 7 On Dak's head early.

Speaker 7 He's one of the only bright spots out there for the Raiders, I'll say. Maddie.
Yeah. So I think the Raiders, they get the ball, you know, inside like the 10, 15, something like that.

Speaker 7 The first play, they get sad.

Speaker 7 And then, oh, dude, could have had a touchdown, but he missed. I think it was Tucker.
He missed on the, Gino, he missed Tucker on that third down.

Speaker 7 They get the field goal. It's 3-0.

Speaker 7 You know what happened? Jerry said, hey,

Speaker 7 uh-uh. Uh-uh.
We ain't doing this. That coach's decision.
Do you like your job? Do you like your job? Do you want? Do you want? Do you like your job? Get

Speaker 7 CD

Speaker 7 and Pickens back out there right now. With the first thing they did.
Hit Pickens for 12.

Speaker 7 Hit Pickens for 12.

Speaker 7 Went on ahead and hit it. What was that? Lumpkey?

Speaker 7 I think it was Lumpke.

Speaker 7 Lumpke, something like that.

Speaker 7 He went on, struggled through on the short pass, took it for 15.

Speaker 7 They calmed down. They gone ahead and slow them down.
They ended up selling for three.

Speaker 7 Raiders get back out there, man. And

Speaker 7 Gino, I think he hit, who was the best for like 15?

Speaker 7 He hit the

Speaker 7 Bowers. That's his name.
17. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think he hit Thomas. I think this is like their best drive they had, bro.
No, for sure. The first quarter

Speaker 7 was their best. They did the offense did pretty good.
They defense, they got a couple of stops. But when,

Speaker 7 like you said, they ended up getting down there. They got a field goal on this drive.
So,

Speaker 7 Dallas, once the second quarter started and Dallas got the ball back, that's just when everything went downhill for the Raiders. Honestly, like they had a little couple bright spots.

Speaker 7 Like I said, Crosby balled out in the first quarter, did the strap, strip, force fumble, and they still weren't able to get touchdowns. I got a field goal.

Speaker 7 Next thing you know, when Dallas comes out there and gets the rock, you know what they do.

Speaker 7 No question.

Speaker 7 It seemed like a little pick and cd show

Speaker 7 it was 19 then a 15

Speaker 7 then it was i think even the running back had one for like 10 or something like that right

Speaker 7 yeah for sure and then cd got the touchdown for about 20

Speaker 7 right something like that it's 10 to three it's starting to go downhill fast yo they was they was on they was on gino's neck all night though oh the raiders offensive line was terrible they was on they was on genti's neck they was on gino's neck yeah man dude jindy could get nowhere bro they get the rock back they got gino out there running for his life

Speaker 7 jindy he uh actually i think he might have had a nice run that series you know i think he got about 11.

Speaker 7 i think the next play they dropped him he dropped a pass on that next play but again like gino was under pressure you know he gets sacked And I think

Speaker 7 that was

Speaker 7 when they showed Jerry. And

Speaker 7 that was Williams. Yeah, yes, yes.

Speaker 7 He got the sacked up.

Speaker 7 And then your boy went on here and

Speaker 7 did nothing really. He got no protection all night.
And they got to punt the rock. Like, I don't know what they expect him to do over there, man.
You can't block to run.

Speaker 7 You can't protect to pass. Like, what they expect him to do?

Speaker 7 It's all bad.

Speaker 7 The offensive line play, like you said, Debo, if you're not blocking nobody, your quarterback is not going to be able to find the receivers and your running back's not gonna be able to get no yards you know what i'm saying like the offensive line if they're playing bad and your center keeps getting beat off the rip

Speaker 7 your running back's getting hit in the backfield your quarterback can't find receivers even if they are open so they need their line to block better if they want to get anything going.

Speaker 7 I'm not saying Gino's playing good or Gentee's. Oh, I'm not saying he's playing good.
I'm not saying that, but how can I evaluate it when I'm not giving him the opportunity? It ain't, you know,

Speaker 7 yes. He's getting the opportunity.

Speaker 7 That was ended up getting the rock back you seen i rob put that thing on that boy on that first on that first play though right no it didn't they hitting out there yes sir yes sir yes sir he went on head to pickings again

Speaker 7 dude like

Speaker 7 they

Speaker 7 like was having troubles tackling that boy man they were scared to tackle that boy bro i don't know what was going on when he catches the ball too his intent is to score he's not trying to just oh no question

Speaker 7 he's like this now oh he's looking at you. He's like, this, oh, you don't want none of this.
Like, he's, I'm ready to stiff arm you. I can juke you.
I'm faster.

Speaker 7 And then, like, when he caught that and spun out of it, you know what I'm saying? And then running, he's running full speed to the pylon, dead legs, the safety, and the corner. I'm like, oh my God.

Speaker 7 And then the corner that was guarding him couldn't even catch up to him. I'm like, that is athleticism.
And it's like, I'm getting in the end zone.

Speaker 7 This isn't what, like, when you play in the NFL, people aren't supposed to be cutting back on people. Dude, he caught you

Speaker 7 at five, bro, and then literally pushed you another six yards for an 11-yard game. Like, that should have been five right there.
Tackle down. Damn.
That's it. That's it.

Speaker 7 He was doing big boy stuff out there, bro.

Speaker 7 CD went over here, jumped in it on third down. I think he was like 14.
Later,

Speaker 7 it was Lamb again. I think he hit about 23.

Speaker 7 And then the fourth and one.

Speaker 7 They went on here,

Speaker 7 got the whole touchdown. Say, give me the whole five.
It's 17 to six.

Speaker 7 man

Speaker 7 raiders get the ball back nothing

Speaker 7 yeah

Speaker 7 not nothing not nothing nothing nothing but go ahead get a tip pick

Speaker 7 right

Speaker 7 no go ahead but a tip pick

Speaker 7 get the ball back to the point where they go score again

Speaker 7 the

Speaker 7 oh man but did you see that that that one that that pickings i don't i want i don't want to even want to say he dropped but we seen him catch those.

Speaker 7 Like, we done seen him make a play. They said they said it was almost a pick.
I'm like, no, that was almost away. Yeah, that was a catch.

Speaker 7 Those are the 50-50s that I'm talking about. Those are the ones that George, he's going to make that play.
Yes. You think you expected him to catch the joint? It was a, they broke it up, whatever.

Speaker 7 He wasn't going to pick it, but he almost made it. Yes, for sure, dude.
Yeah. Third and 10, they ended up getting the ink, but it was a PI.
So that extended the drive.

Speaker 7 Then Williams, they running back. He went on ahead, hit him for 16 on that next play.

Speaker 7 Then they, what was it? They got a false start. And then

Speaker 7 shake and bake hit Pickens.

Speaker 7 I think it was, what, 37? Yeah. It was a 37-yard touchdown.
Like, come on, bro. 24 to 6.
It's going downhill fast, dude. Raiders get out there.
And I was kind of surprised. Like,

Speaker 7 they went on ahead and put together a little drive. they got a field goal i mean with the help of i think they had a holding penalty and an off size and

Speaker 7 was able to get enough time to connect i think it was with the uh the tight end for was it 25 or something like that

Speaker 7 i think it was yeah

Speaker 7 was it 25 because yeah all they got was a field goal out of it it went into halftime it was like 24 to 9.

Speaker 7 yep they come out of halftime

Speaker 7 dallas went on here stood up for a high second they forced it they forced a three and out

Speaker 7 williams

Speaker 7 yep

Speaker 7 he went on here got a little bit of that get back just a little bit because the the safety was still able to tackle him but he dropped him like you know how you hit that boom boom straight down yeah yeah oh he was able to hold on to that leg i don't know why i like seeing people get hit and i don't i don't care what because it's not it's not it's not often, it's not often they're not going to throw a flag.

Speaker 7 It's tough to get them good, Debo. And when you get it good without a flag, it's good, good to see.
I know what you're saying because I love it too.

Speaker 7 Yeah, even though it was the safety getting ran, well, not getting ran over. That's the only reason why he got a little get back.

Speaker 7 Because if he had ran him all the way over, he would have got all that get back. Yeah,

Speaker 7 and dude,

Speaker 7 like Pickens on that second dot, like dude, it was like he was in, he was in war zone and had a cheat code, bro.

Speaker 7 Like,

Speaker 7 that shouldn't have been no more than,

Speaker 7 what, maybe six, seven yards at the most. What did he end up getting? Like, 30 or something? Bro, his run after the catch is elite.

Speaker 7 The run after the catch is elite. Crazy.

Speaker 7 Very next one, Lumpkin again, about 12. Pickings right after that.

Speaker 7 And Dak hit

Speaker 7 second. What was that? 19

Speaker 7 for a two-yard touchdown. What's his name? I can't remember his name.

Speaker 7 But he ran a nice, nice little pivot route, too. Yeah, he shook him.
Dude, thought he was all the way in. As soon as he saw him turn that head, he cut that thing back out.
31-9, bro.

Speaker 7 So I'm really, I ain't gonna lie to you. I'm kind of thinking the game is over with, even though it ain't even the fourth quarter yet.

Speaker 7 And somehow the Raiders come out there, put together another drive.

Speaker 7 And that fourth and one that they

Speaker 7 shouldn't say they converted. I should say Genti converted because he had no blocking whatsoever.
I thought he was just dead in the water.

Speaker 7 He was able to convert that. And then

Speaker 7 it's, you know, I was 16 or what, 31 then.

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Speaker 7 It's almost a whole fourth quarter laugh.

Speaker 7 And then Dallas gets the kickoff return. They bring it all the way almost to midfield.
I'm like, yeah, it's for sure over with.

Speaker 7 And the Raiders force a three and out, bro.

Speaker 7 We.

Speaker 7 Yo, and then, dude, who was that? Tucker? Why are you even grabbing the ball right there, bro?

Speaker 7 Like, you get tackled at, what was it, the two?

Speaker 7 Acting up as you try and return it. Like,

Speaker 7 you don't feel the ball inside the 10.

Speaker 7 What are you doing?

Speaker 7 After it bounced, you better hope it just keep going that way, bro.

Speaker 7 Let them try to recover. And the way that these dudes be acting on special teams, they're going to slide into the damn end zone, put their foot on the ball somehow.

Speaker 7 But you bring up, you catch it yourself. Let the ball go.

Speaker 7 Then they get the ball back. The first play, they fall start.
So it takes them from the two to the one.

Speaker 7 And, you know, they, because they can't pass the ball because they can't block. They was like, you you know what? Let's just take the lesser of the two evils.
Let's try and run it.

Speaker 7 Worst thing that could happen, hopefully, is that we, you know, we don't give up six or seven. We, you know, worse, we give up two and they give up two.
And they give up two.

Speaker 7 Like

Speaker 7 that offensive line, he getting hit in the backfield. He was stopping his feet.
I'm like, damn, it just not good.

Speaker 7 Yeah, dude. And Dallas get the ball back.
They just going, they just trying to burn up clock right now. They ain't trying to strike up too many points on him.

Speaker 7 They end up punting the ball, four minutes left back to him. Game, you know, game basically over with.

Speaker 7 So it ends up, it ends up with the 33 to 16.

Speaker 7 Dallas, they did what they're supposed to do, dude. Like, come on, man.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 You were at number three ranked offense. You're going up against a Raiders defense that was tied for 17.

Speaker 7 Really, that's 18 to me.

Speaker 7 And you're going against an offense. Well, offense is 30th.

Speaker 7 30th they defense was 30th but they also added they added some some things to their defense before the trade deadline it actually paid off you know right there um

Speaker 7 big quinn williams yeah dude i don't know dude uh i was raiders o-line bro terrible they can't stop water from getting out of well bro that's what i'm saying

Speaker 7 and there's no way there's nothing you can get going if that's your if that's what's going on if you can't like if you can't renegotiate the restart the line of scrimmage you're not getting any push in the run game and in the past game you're just getting beat and your quarterback can't get to his drop and plant and make any reads there's no success that's going to happen there so i mean they they the raiders don't look too good on they don't look good at all on offense with the offensive line their defense they got max crosby and i i love him he's going to go out there he's going to ball

Speaker 7 i feel like max you know what i'm saying he's out there hooping but that he you can do only so much right i'm saying and then when football baby is it's it's 10 other cats out here that got to do their job everybody's getting paid no question

Speaker 7 no question the cowboys they that was that was what they were supposed to do

Speaker 7 right that's what they're supposed to do now they want to holler about weed and boys come no no no we got y'all just play y'all just played the raid of weed them boys they say they owe four and one versus winning teams and four and oh versus losing teams so when you go play a losing team you're gonna win when you go play a winning team, you're going to lose.

Speaker 7 So, I mean, Dallas,

Speaker 7 I hope that they can go win this one, but when they go play, I just got to see them do it versus better teams. It was like Dak, the strip fumble.

Speaker 7 CD, he had CD for a touchdown wide open in the end zone that he just let him. You know what I'm saying? I could have been another one.

Speaker 7 So they got plays that they leave out on the field, but when they play against a better team, that's when I'm going to be able to judge them versus the competition. Yeah, yeah, I ain't going to lie.

Speaker 7 I'm a self-admitted Dallas hater, but I got to give him a little bit of props. You know, he's still, you still got to go out there and do it.
You got to do it.

Speaker 7 You got to be here when we went to Cincinnati and didn't do it. You see what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 Dak went on here. He threw four touchdowns, bro.
Like, he almost had 140 quarterback rating, bro. Yes.
Pickers went on here, got nine for 144 with a tutty.

Speaker 7 Lamb added, what was it, 65 with another touchdown?

Speaker 7 And hell, the running back almost had 100.

Speaker 7 I think he had like 90, what, 95, 93, something like that? Yep, yep, yep.

Speaker 7 And your boy, well, I can't get his name, Lumpke. He, hell, he was averaging 12 yards a catch.

Speaker 7 You know, the defense did better. You know, defense did better.
But again, again, you sacked Geno four times. I think a lot of people didn't sack Geno, you know, a few times.

Speaker 7 27 yards rushing is sick, though. I ain't gonna lie.
27 yards rushing is 27 yards. 238 receiving.

Speaker 7 You know, pull off them sack yards.

Speaker 7 It's only a total at 236. I ain't gonna lie, that's good for a whole game.
Yeah,

Speaker 7 but

Speaker 7 it is the regulars.

Speaker 7 We will see when they play somebody good.

Speaker 7 Hey, hey, listen, listen, listen. Them boys, yes, who y'all got next?

Speaker 7 I don't even know. Fly, Eagles, fly, let's see.
Oh, they got the Eagles next. That's gonna be good.

Speaker 7 Hey,

Speaker 7 they got

Speaker 7 the Lions in a couple weeks through after that.

Speaker 7 Lions mad, upset. Gotta be.
Okay.

Speaker 7 Yeah, they've been going through some trouble. Trouble last with trouble.
They got the Chiefs, too.

Speaker 7 In between that,

Speaker 7 you know,

Speaker 7 tough schedule. Yeah.

Speaker 7 I think they got the Chargers on there too, bro.

Speaker 7 Hey, what you think about what Des was talking about with joy i i i don't i don't i don't understand what he's talking about i don't i don't i don't know what he's saying like like he's like

Speaker 7 i i hear what he's saying i just don't know what he's trying to say it or relate it to like what he like

Speaker 7 i don't know so you're trying to tell him not to stay there or to go no no no i don't know i know i think no i think he's trying to tell him to stay there i think he's trying to tell him to stay there i think he's trying to tell him so if we say, I want to understand wherever it's, whenever it's time to negotiate your contract,

Speaker 7 your legacy will be worth more than being the highest paid wide receiver if you stay with the Cowboys.

Speaker 7 So I'm thinking that he's saying that

Speaker 7 once you become a free agent, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 You're going to be able to... What's the difference between,

Speaker 7 hopefully this is what I'm thinking.

Speaker 7 What's the difference between making 33 in Dallas with a good quarterback where you know you're going to get the ball, you have a great situation to 35 in, let's say,

Speaker 7 Miami? Do you know what I'm saying? So is that

Speaker 7 two per year where it's like the guaranteed is still around 90 a year in both spots? Is that number really like that's not going to change your lifestyle?

Speaker 7 And then if you're there when you have a good quarterback, where you have this camaraderie, where you feel comfortable, you feel good, where you like, this is where you're building your roots, that's going to make another deal.

Speaker 7 It's going to be easier to get that because you know your quarterback, you like your situation than to go somewhere else for an extra 2 million bucks.

Speaker 7 Not like 2 million, you know, you ought to go get your bag. I know he's not saying, like, no, they're offering you 42 and they're offering you 30.
No, let's go. No, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 You know what I'm saying? But I'm still saying,

Speaker 7 yeah, okay. It's 2 million a year.

Speaker 7 It could be a total of eight. Yeah.
Okay. Maybe you stay there, whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah.
But when you go anywhere where it may be a

Speaker 7 four to six million dollars,

Speaker 7 I got to go. I don't care what you're talking about.
Yes. Like you just want to see Dallas do good because you played there.
You're a fan.

Speaker 7 Just as I want to see Pittsburgh do good because I played there. I'm a fan now.
Yeah.

Speaker 7 But like, come on.

Speaker 7 You, you got to go get your bag. That's the number one and first thing, especially now George Pickens, he's coming off a rookie contract.
He doesn't have a big deal. He doesn't have M's in the bank.

Speaker 7 He wasn't making $30 million per season. But when I'm saying, like, I think we're saying the same thing.

Speaker 7 We're not saying don't like 12, $6, $4 million differences and all that.

Speaker 7 No, when you go get your original bag, if it's Dallas at $33 with $90 guaranteed and you got Miami at $93 guaranteed, I would stay in Dallas for that extra because that's nothing that's when you're looking at Dallas, no state income tax.

Speaker 7 So no, no, I got it. You got to relate that.

Speaker 7 You got a lot of things with that nature, but I'm just thinking with he saying it's not always, the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

Speaker 7 And if it's not for us, like significance, when we're talking about real M's here that you're going to be able to put away in your pocket,

Speaker 7 stay there where you can be able to continue to perform. AJ Brown is not as happy.

Speaker 7 Tyreek Hill going, leaving Kansas City, he would like that 30 with Patrick Mahomes more than you're not feeling as much happy when you're getting that 30 with Tua. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 7 So just being able to know like,

Speaker 7 happiness, Miles Garrett, you went and re-signed again for 40. Any other team would have given you 40.

Speaker 7 You don't have to go take the money, but when you do go do it for a little bit more of the bag, know you're in the situation that you're in.

Speaker 7 When you could be in a good team, good situation, maybe a little bit less, maybe not the highest paid, but that's not going to change your lifestyle.

Speaker 7 That's going to like the way you, what you can go get. It could change your lifestyle and winning and being able to be happy, going to work in a good place and being good.

Speaker 7 Oh, yeah, man, what's the extra extra 500,000, extra million? You're going to be looking crazy sitting, you know what I'm saying, pissed off. So I'm with the thousand percent.

Speaker 7 Go get your bag, the biggest bag you can. But then it's like, if it's like penny critch at the end, when you got all the contracts in front of you, you looking at them like,

Speaker 7 okay, okay. It's really not at the end of the day.
I'm making 33 million dollars a year here, chilling, feeling good.

Speaker 7 You know what I'm saying? Like that, then that's kind of what I'm hoping he's saying. Instead of like, no, if it's $12 million different, you bet, no, go get your cheese.
Right.

Speaker 7 That's money you can go put $6 million for your children, liquid money, no. You know what I'm saying? Hit a couple little here.
Like, no, I'm going to be able to make that on the back end.

Speaker 7 You know what I'm saying? Like, so I hope that's kind of, and I think that's kind of what he's saying because

Speaker 7 that's what I would say. Okay.
Yeah, I got you now. I'm good with that.
I'm good with that. Now, look here, man.

Speaker 7 Let's talk about your team, man. So,

Speaker 7 your boy, Shador, he expected to get his first start Sunday. Yes.

Speaker 7 We're dealing on the side now.

Speaker 7 You know, this go be the 42nd quarterback that the Browns done had as a starter since 1999, man.

Speaker 7 You know,

Speaker 7 that's a lot of quarterbacks. Like, how many head coaches? Like, a lot.

Speaker 7 A lot of gay coaches too, right? A lot of head coaches. Speaking of head coaches, man,

Speaker 7 hey, your boy Stefanski was asked if he would change anything about how he divided up reps for the quarterback. And

Speaker 7 I hear what he had to say.

Speaker 20 Would you have changed anything about the approach about how you maybe divided up the first team reps from training camp to now?

Speaker 7 Yeah, I understand the question, Cam.

Speaker 21 I think it's important that you do what you think is right for a football team.

Speaker 21 The development of our players is constant.

Speaker 21 It doesn't happen just in one drill or in one practice or one meeting. So we trust our guys.
We trust our backup players

Speaker 21 to be ready to go. And Shador is ready to go.
Obviously, I know he wants to play better.

Speaker 7 I want to coach better, all those type of things, but that just comes, that'll come through work. That's where it will come.

Speaker 7 Okay,

Speaker 7 Joe, Joe, Joe, listen. Let me, let me, let me, let me, let me, let me talk about this, okay? Please talk about this,

Speaker 7 Kevin.

Speaker 7 Obviously,

Speaker 7 you didn't understand the question because you didn't answer it.

Speaker 7 Okay,

Speaker 7 now

Speaker 7 that's one of the most generic,

Speaker 7 you know, type responses

Speaker 7 that you can get. And

Speaker 7 I don't know. Kevin,

Speaker 7 are you uncomfortable with the truthful answer? Because it may make you look

Speaker 7 bad, maybe?

Speaker 7 Or I don't know. You could be hiding something.

Speaker 7 Because I know you didn't misunderstand the question. You heard it loud and clear.
You yourself said, I understand the question. Quiet.

Speaker 7 He

Speaker 7 is up there

Speaker 7 talking like he's running for office, like he's a politician. Cleveland, y'all done hired a politician, not a head coach, baby.
That's what y'all done hired, man.

Speaker 7 This man can't even stand on his own decision or admit that he was wrong. Or even possibly in hindsight, I could have did something different that may have helped my team.

Speaker 7 So like, I want to know

Speaker 7 if.

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Speaker 7 You knew

Speaker 7 that Dylan is not going to play

Speaker 7 now and he's not going to be the backup would you give or are you going to give the backup any reps

Speaker 7 at the one that will be backing up shador i don't know what what you think joe

Speaker 7 debo i'm i'm i'm with you with when kevin can't answer a question like stand on something

Speaker 7 Stand on anything. You know what I'm saying? Like, if you don't believe, like, answer it.

Speaker 7 Do you think you would have switched it up no i would have did exactly what i'm doing right now because that's the way my process is i would have gave dylan all of the reps because he's a young quarterback and i think he's if able to split any reps he needs to get every rep so he's ready for the game say that

Speaker 7 or say no i don't think shador was ready he's not going to be the second string quarterback and i mean what say anything say something that makes us mad say something that makes us you're just trying to give us political answer like when he's like he's at the combine or something you can't give a political answer man you're not a politician You're a head coach that's making decisions on if your team's gonna win or lose.

Speaker 7 You, what are you talking about? You're with me. You're with me.
We're saying the same thing. He's talking like he's like, he, like, he can't stand on something.

Speaker 7 Like, he's like, he's scared to say if he did something wrong or admit to why he's making this decision. Stand on while you're doing things, sir.

Speaker 7 Say you wanted Dylan to have all of the reps because he was our first string quarterback. He's a rookie.
And I just wanted him to get every, I wanted him to get all of them. So he's ready.

Speaker 7 He's premiumly ready for the game. Say that.

Speaker 7 or you don't

Speaker 7 please say that. Can you, can you please say that? Anything because then I'll, then I'll, then we'll then be like, okay, perfect.
Then somebody can say, somebody can say, I don't agree, but I see

Speaker 7 why you would do that. You know what I'm saying? But if you don't say nothing, then hold on.
I asked the question and I don't know where he stands. So that's the only part that gets me off.

Speaker 7 Like, say something, stand on it. And then now we can, now at least we can understand where you're coming from.
I don't even know where you're coming from.

Speaker 7 Joe,

Speaker 7 y'all got some problems over there

Speaker 7 in Cleveland. Now,

Speaker 7 here's some disturbing information.

Speaker 7 All right.

Speaker 7 Shadora's home got broken into during the game.

Speaker 7 That's crazy, right?

Speaker 7 Again.

Speaker 7 Now,

Speaker 7 you know me.

Speaker 7 I got to get a a little something started. You know, I got to.

Speaker 7 I'm like a

Speaker 7 I'm like an instigator of sorts. I like to, and I like to, you know, I like to keep things interesting.
You know what I mean, Joe? I like to keep things interesting. So

Speaker 7 this is like something that I,

Speaker 7 what's the thing where you like say something that, that could be true, could not be true, but is true or ain't true. Find out later it could be true.
You know, what they call that?

Speaker 7 What they call that? that, what they call that, what that is. Um, a hypothetical?

Speaker 7 No, no, no, no. A conspiracy theory.
I got a conspiracy theory. Okay.
Okay.

Speaker 7 So this is just, I'm not saying this is true. Okay.

Speaker 7 I'm just,

Speaker 7 I'm just spitballing. Okay.

Speaker 7 Because, you know, that's, you know,

Speaker 7 this is just my conspiracy. Okay.

Speaker 7 So. This is what I thought happened.

Speaker 7 Or conspiracy of what I think could happen.

Speaker 7 So, halftime came

Speaker 7 and

Speaker 7 he knew that Dylan was out, right?

Speaker 7 And

Speaker 7 when he found that out, Kevin

Speaker 7 probably got a call from, or, or Dylan might have called his age and said, I'm out. And Kevin, oh my goodness, they got the same agent.

Speaker 7 Anyway.

Speaker 7 So I think

Speaker 7 that it was conspiracy to make sure that

Speaker 7 Shador had a little bit more pressure on him. So

Speaker 7 this is just, I'm just spitballing. I'm not saying this happened.
I'm just talking. This is a story, people.

Speaker 7 This is a story. I'm listening.
I'm listening. I'm not saying this happened.
Okay. I'm just talking.

Speaker 7 I think the agent,

Speaker 7 since they both have the same agent, Dylan and Kevin Stefanski.

Speaker 7 I think they went and broke into the man's house.

Speaker 7 Had somebody do it. Debo, see, there you go.
Listen, i'm just talking debo you're talking about somebody breaking into my man's house

Speaker 7 i'm just talking

Speaker 7 dealing no listen i'm just spitballing i'm not saying this happened i'm just talking i'm telling story this this this is uh

Speaker 7 i'm not here i'm not here i'm not here for this fiction fantasy man i'm not here for this conspiracy and i think and i think it was in my story I'm just spitballing here, man.

Speaker 7 Listen, listen to me, man. And I'm thinking they was hoping that it got to him

Speaker 7 before he went back out there or sometime during the game to rally him a little more, you know. No, Debo, I'm just giving a good, what you think? I know.
I pray not. I pray not.

Speaker 7 You know, my man's house got hit up, Debo. We gotta, you know, let's just hope that everything is okay because that's that's just messed up.

Speaker 7 Your privacy of your own home, people breaking into your house. I don't want to make a joke about people breaking into your house.
I ain't making no joke about people breaking into your house.

Speaker 7 You're making the joke that Dylan Gabriel and Coach.

Speaker 7 That ain't.

Speaker 7 I'm not making the joke. I'm just telling you what, I'm just giving a conspiracy theory.

Speaker 7 Debo, Debo, I think better than you. You are.
Come on, Debo. You better than that.
You better than that. You better than that.
You don't believe that. You don't believe that conspiracy theory.

Speaker 7 I'm writing a story. A fictional story, Joe.
Okay.

Speaker 7 I'm just sad, man. That's just bad.

Speaker 7 I'm all that.

Speaker 7 You are.

Speaker 7 Yo, breaking in my man man Shador's house, man. That's just, that's bad business.
That's bad business. I hope the people are caught.

Speaker 7 I hope they get caught. I hope they get caught.
I hope they get locked. If the conspiracy theory is true, they ain't going to get caught.
I'm just saying.

Speaker 7 If your conspiracy theory is true, they're going to be on.

Speaker 7 If the conspiracy theory is true, they're in the locker room, my dog, right now.

Speaker 7 I'm just saying. That's foul.
Just saying.

Speaker 7 Listen, man, a man can't tell truth, save his life.

Speaker 7 So even if it was true which i know it it ain't true i'm just you know yeah you just i'm just getting trashed you know i just like i like to get it out there sometimes you know what i'm saying i feel you i feel you like to stir some stuff up sometimes i like speaking to stirring it up man they got they got jamar chase for one game finding 500k yeah

Speaker 7 listen to this though listen to this according to ian rap report Jamar Chase plans to appeal the one game suspension, claiming that if he was going to spit on jalen ramsey he would have spit in his face and not his jersey or crown

Speaker 7 what

Speaker 7 you go back it up with

Speaker 7 i meant to spit

Speaker 7 just not

Speaker 7 in his face on his jersey or you didn't meet you was just spitting within three inches of somebody

Speaker 7 jalen he said he would have spit in your nah don't let me gas jalen i ain't gas

Speaker 7 jalen

Speaker 7 i ain't gonna gas you i ain't gonna do that to you

Speaker 7 look

Speaker 7 so

Speaker 7 you can't back that up with that you can't you can't go and and try and like what are you appealing bro

Speaker 7 it's there you're done you done already lied first you said you didn't even do it now you're saying you did spit you just didn't mean to spit on him.

Speaker 7 And if you were actually trying to spit on him, you would have spit in his face.

Speaker 7 If you had spit in his face, he'd be still on top of you, bro. Right now.

Speaker 7 Right now. Debo, he says this, bro, because

Speaker 7 I mean, you know how

Speaker 7 when you get a fine, like people, I was appealing stuff that you know you did wrong. So you're trying to see if you just.
You're just trying to see if you get some money back.

Speaker 7 See if you get, give me something. Give me something.
You know what I'm saying? Like, you know, you did it wrong. You know what? For you a pill in this, they need to give you some more time.

Speaker 7 He might have to give you some more. Because blatantly saying that, like, and then to go in when he spit on them, Debo, to not move and not react and then act like he didn't.

Speaker 7 You know what you need to do?

Speaker 7 You know exactly. Because if I'm there and I didn't mean to spit on you and you, I'm not spitting no way.
Listen here, man.

Speaker 7 The first thing that happens when you're a kid, that first time you spit, you get popped in the mouth in the mouth.

Speaker 7 Like that. Don't you never spit.
My mama popped me in my mouth, dude. When I spit, dude.
She said, don't you never spit.

Speaker 7 I didn't know she meant don't spit on somebody. So I never, dog, I didn't.
You just wouldn't spit. I do.
I didn't spit.

Speaker 7 Listen, I didn't spit, nigga. Listen, bro.
I'm at a football game in high school and I'm standing next to my homeboy. And my homeboy spit on the ground.
Joe, I grabbed his mouth.

Speaker 7 I said, oh, don't do that. I'm going to go come pop you in the mouth.

Speaker 7 I said, my mouth,

Speaker 7 don't do that. My mama go come pop you in the mouth.

Speaker 7 No, bro. i'm

Speaker 7 no but seriously bro

Speaker 7 yes listen you cannot even spit on the ground dude in singapore it's a thousand dollars for one spit

Speaker 7 if you do it again it keeps doubling you do three spits man you bought fifteen thousand dollars in the boat man

Speaker 7 like just spitting on the ground in present bro like You cannot spit on anyone, dude.

Speaker 7 Like, that's the most disrespectful thing in the world you could ever do in life bro the nfl gotta make an example of this dude like with this being the third what's gonna happen

Speaker 7 like what's gonna happen the next time dude like we're talking about the integrity of the nfl protecting the shield and this reputation

Speaker 7 what are you doing here what what signal are you sending out hey spit on somebody we get your game don't worry about it yeah

Speaker 7 No, that's it. It's wild, man.

Speaker 7 And then when you react to being spit, you get kicked out the game.

Speaker 7 What

Speaker 7 I should just be spit on and stand there and take it.

Speaker 7 The punches, they worried about more of a punches thrown that people getting spit on. We gotta switch that.

Speaker 7 Yeah,

Speaker 7 like I don't, I don't understand

Speaker 7 the thought process and him answering or responding to this.

Speaker 7 If that is true, bro. Bro, it's true.

Speaker 7 It's true. He basically saying, I would have spit spit in his face.
So, how are you going to lift his head? Jamar, you're trying to get away with it. Like, you spit and didn't even move.

Speaker 7 And you basically felt like you got away with it until 4K was out there and a thousand cameras. So you said, I would have spit on his face.
No, you wouldn't have.

Speaker 7 You tried to spit on him and get away with it. You're talking about you trying, right? You try to

Speaker 7 lift your head up so you can get that good spit, boom, right into him. No, nigga, you're trying to be undercover and sly and spit on somebody and get away with it.
You're not going to do that.

Speaker 7 Not even close to it, bro. Not even close to to it that was wild

Speaker 7 yo yo uh the giants they benched uh carter for sleeping during a walkthrough um but he said he was not sleeping he said he was actually doing recovery nevertheless it was on me

Speaker 7 so

Speaker 7 i ain't got no problem

Speaker 7 with

Speaker 7 him saying

Speaker 7 because he actually took accountability he just like yo you said i was sleeping during a walkthrough like who in the world does that like they don't

Speaker 7 yes i should have been there boom boom boom but y'all ain't gonna sit here and make it seem like i was just oh i'm just sleeping i'll get to the walkthrough whenever i get time like that's crazy like they just they just trying to stir up some stuff you know

Speaker 7 i don't

Speaker 7 listen i ain't gonna lie to you man i used to sleep i used to sleep in the meetings you know what i'm saying

Speaker 7 i'm not gonna be the one to sit here and lie

Speaker 7 I mean, when I started getting,

Speaker 7 my rookie year,

Speaker 7 it was bad. I was getting fine.
My man Abe Elimer would wake me up because I was outside.

Speaker 7 You was drafted. My rookie year, I wasn't sleeping in me.
Bro, I used to stand up in the back. I used to take my clothes off and jog in place to stay away.

Speaker 7 Man.

Speaker 7 After I got, to me,

Speaker 7 man, I'd sit up there. I ain't going to lie to you, man.
And Coach LeBo,

Speaker 7 he'd

Speaker 7 be, he'd be up there. I'd be sitting in the front.
He'd be up there, you know, going through his stuff, dude. I'd be heavy and I'd go to sleep.

Speaker 7 And only time he would ever tap me is when I would get a snore out. He'd get a sleep.
Oh, yes, deeper. Wow.

Speaker 7 Bruh. Yo, you were dreaming in the meetings.
You were just like a little, you know. Yo, it wasn't all the time.

Speaker 7 It was, you know, it was like, it was like once, you know, once, once every other week or something,

Speaker 7 you got to realize man i get home you know we get home from a sunday game

Speaker 7 if we get home at three four o'clock i go straight to the gym damn you up okay you 24 yeah then i go home i start getting treatment and therapy dude i may not sleep until

Speaker 7 tuesday night and i'm getting up at like three four to go in so i may get three four hours of sleep to go in so i can get you know what i'm saying so that's wild though you taking care of your body getting work it getting work in.

Speaker 7 I was sleeping from being tired because I was out too late. That's that was that.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I wild out my rookie year with that.

Speaker 7 And I'm not, I'm not proud of it, but we're here to be honest about what was going on. So did my couple just staying up too late? Like, and that's why I was only in the beginning.
After that, I was

Speaker 7 for me. The reason I had to be in the back.
standing up, jumping around is I was on special teams, but I'm hanging out with my OGs who stay in the front with the feet kicked up.

Speaker 7 I'm back here running the place, you know, trying to stay away because I can't, I can't afford to be. Yeah,

Speaker 7 you know what I'm saying. After that, bro, I'm telling you, some people, after that second, after that first deal, after that first deal, your eyes might be closed a little bit, right?

Speaker 7 Right, you gotta, you gotta make sure you gotta get a standard, you know what I'm saying. I couldn't close, dude.
I couldn't close my eyes to what was my what one

Speaker 7 my third deal.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I realized, Joe, I ain't, I ain't start until

Speaker 7 five years in, almost six.

Speaker 7 I only started, hell, I only started with Pittsburgh from

Speaker 7 2007 to 12 because I went to, what's her name in 13?

Speaker 7 That's crazy. And then came back 14

Speaker 7 to 17.

Speaker 7 That's crazy, Debo. Yeah.
Like the more half of my time was special teams, bro. Half of it was starting.

Speaker 7 Damn. Yeah.

Speaker 7 Well, I ain't going to lie to you, man. You done, you did that because you went and got all them pro bowls and your defensive player of the year.

Speaker 7 Like, people don't just walk around with defensive player of the year. You know what I'm saying? Like, yeah, this is true.

Speaker 7 Yeah, I found that out. I found that out, though.
I ain't going to lie to you. It ain't.

Speaker 7 I really don't think it'll ever be another.

Speaker 7 player that'll be defensive player of the year that'll be undrafted because the chances of a guy making it now is an undrafted player are they not gonna they're not gonna miss out on that

Speaker 7 it's so slim now dude like you don't you don't have the time to actually you know get the reps that you need you know what i'm saying you don't have as many preseason games to show yourself anymore it's only what three now

Speaker 7 So, you know, that opportunity now, dude, is slim.

Speaker 7 You got to flash. Just to make it right.
Just to make it, you know, and and for me i would have never got an opportunity to start if

Speaker 7 pc hadn't spit on uh william green yeah yep yep because they would have never gave me yeah they would have never gave me a chance bruh

Speaker 7 to actually get out there and it was like oh they had a guy that they had drafted ahead of me and he he he wasn't he wasn't better than me but they drafted him ahead so they were playing him anytime they knew that one of the starters would be out.

Speaker 7 He would dress. He played no special teams, started on nothing.

Speaker 7 And I did all the special teams and all that. And PZ happened to get kicked out right before the game.
They didn't know it was going to happen. So he wasn't dressed.
I'm there.

Speaker 7 And they like, yo, you got to go. I'm like, all right, cool.
Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 So

Speaker 7 that's perfect, man. You ready for that op.
Hey, thank you. Oh, no question.

Speaker 7 No question.

Speaker 7 I think I might have got my first sack in that game. Damn.
First stop.

Speaker 7 2000, what was that?

Speaker 7 2011.

Speaker 7 No, sorry, 2004.

Speaker 7 That was... No, it might have been five.
I can't remember. 2004 or 5.
I'm going to check. I'm going to look at it.
Five or six, something like that.

Speaker 7 That was my first, first time I ever got a, ever got a start. But I came in in 2002.
Like, my first start ever was like almost three years later.

Speaker 7 Yeah, no, for sure. You know, so damn.
That's good shit, though, Debo.

Speaker 7 Yeah, for sure.

Speaker 7 Uh, we're gonna go over here to what was it, Buffalo? I think we got Coleman. He was, they said he was dancing before the game, I guess, against the Bucks.
He was benched by the team for

Speaker 7 being late to practice on Friday. We got the video, right?

Speaker 7 He was

Speaker 7 killing. He was getting it too, though.

Speaker 7 listen i gotta hear that what was they playing that i i think that's i think i know the song that drew he was what's it called i bet you won't i bet you won't i bet you won't i bet you won't

Speaker 7 hey that might be it that was that

Speaker 7 that might be yeah that song will make you get the going instantly like

Speaker 7 yeah that might be

Speaker 7 that might be bro that might be somebody yeah hawkins had had a had a message for him though

Speaker 7 We got the sound. Show it up.
Pop it up.

Speaker 9 Dennis Lee, we need guys to come on. And Keon knows, right? Now he's in the hot seat, and he needs to come on and show up for us.

Speaker 9 Pat's on the back or over with, and it's time for him to grow up, and he knows it. And as an older player on the team, we hold everybody accountable.
And we shoot straight. We don't sugarcoat it.

Speaker 9 And the words and were said to him, and he took it well.

Speaker 7 What do you think of him him uh dancing before the game and what do you think of hawkins message uh to him

Speaker 7 i like i like the message from og because i like him i like him a lot he's very respectful and he does you and at least by example the one thing i would say is it's more that it's not about the dancing i don't want to take away i want him the kid to sit there and be sad and act like oh damn i don't need him taking the rest of the team down because he down no i don't need me in there being pissed off

Speaker 7 Yes. The thing is, I love about what he said was he's not talking about the dancing part.
I need you to be, if you, that's you, be you.

Speaker 7 Don't be walking around here looking crazy because you, you messed up. We're talking about you missing practice, being late to practice.
We need you. You're a key player.
You can't be doing that.

Speaker 7 The coaches sat you down because you were late for practice. And you, you know what I'm saying? Like, that's the thing.
We need you to be way more present.

Speaker 7 So I think he's telling him as a leader, we need you. We need you to be here.
You can't be doing that. And just, that's just not going to work.

Speaker 7 I'm not worried about him dancing because that's just a happy person. That's his personality that he brings to the team when they're good.
So I know his teammates was around him getting it too.

Speaker 7 That's just a vibe, guy. You got dudes that just, you're just happy to be around.
And I wouldn't want Keon to be a dude that's like, man, just soaking because he's not playing or just get bad vibes.

Speaker 7 Keep your vibes up, but at the same time, don't miss meetings. We need you.
So I love the way that they went about it. I don't want him to not be dancing.
Like, that's just you.

Speaker 7 But same time, I need you to be at practice on Friday.

Speaker 7 Yeah, yeah, it don't matter, dude. You, you, if he did it the other way, they'd be like oh he out there sucking because he he he didn't get to play

Speaker 7 he ain't nothing he ain't he he ain't doing nothing to motivate his teammates he should be out there being a team guy and all the other stuff but now he dancing oh he dancing he don't even care he ain't playing oh he's too happy he too happy you can't win you can't win with these bums nowadays Like you, you ain't played the game.

Speaker 7 You ain't did it. You don't understand what people out there going through, what they need to do, what energy you should really come with.

Speaker 7 Like, come on, man. They already gave him the alignment set.
And the message, that ain't even harsh, dude. That's OG talking to him.
That's him accepting it and being like, Yes, you're right.

Speaker 7 I understand 100%.

Speaker 7 But what OG, I would respect too, because OG is going to love up on him too.

Speaker 7 He's not just telling him nothing crazy and he's not talking to you when you're not doing something that that's affecting your game and that's affecting the team.

Speaker 7 He's really trying to help you grow as a player. And that's what good vets do.
He's not just doing nothing crazy. And then we're telling them, he's like, no, like, we let him know, like, we need you.

Speaker 7 This is what we approve,

Speaker 7 we expect so it's not a bashing it's not like go out there it's not it dude it's not even it's not even close to a bashing dude no like that's me going ahead and saying what i need to say and it being in a respectful manner a leader you know

Speaker 7 saying what needs to be said and i'm not attacking him i'm stating what's the obvious is which he has already said yes

Speaker 7 yo we need you like

Speaker 7 i don't dude they just you want to get something started that's all it is i'm not mad at that at all i just need him to be there. And I love the way OG did it.
Oh, no question about it.

Speaker 7 You can't, you can't, you can't come no better than that, man. Especially in how he, you know, how he took it, how, how he took it in stride.
And he's like, yo, I understand. 100%.

Speaker 7 It ain't, you know, it ain't going to happen no more.

Speaker 7 Yo, over in Atlanta, Michael,

Speaker 7 he

Speaker 7 pinics. He, he, he has this, dude.
He done did a lot of DCLs and all this other stuff. Like, college was crazy.

Speaker 7 Like, he, he, dude, he tore, he part, he suffered a partially torn ACL this time during Sunday's game to the um Panthers.

Speaker 7 Like, I guess he's seeking a second opinion, but they're saying that uh, it's not encouraging. This will be his

Speaker 7 fifth season-ending surgery in

Speaker 7 eight college and pro seasons, dude.

Speaker 7 Three ACLs,

Speaker 7 2018, through 2020, and this parcel right now, in 25.

Speaker 7 Dude, that sucks for him.

Speaker 7 They worried about them paying him, you know, $180 million to avoid an issue.

Speaker 7 And now they're like they're in an issue.

Speaker 7 I ain't going to lie to you. You paid that upfront just so that you didn't.
have to pay more if things went better than what y'all thought it was gonna go.

Speaker 7 Yeah, man.

Speaker 7 I mean, this, I just feel bad for him. I feel sorry for him.
You know, football is football. It's 100%.
People are going to get hurt. It's going to be injuries.
And then wear and tear in your body.

Speaker 7 He was in college for a long time. And then just continuous injuries.
And it keeps happening. And we're not getting no younger.
You know what I mean? Because he had a sternoconvicular.

Speaker 7 blow. That's what James had.
Like that's your, that's right here, dude. That's not your AC, dude.
That, I know what that is, dude. That's eight months.

Speaker 7 Yeah, that's a long process, bro. So, you know, man, I just the injuries for him, I just feel bad for him, but you know, it's the NFL, man.
And then you just continuously getting hurt.

Speaker 7 I just pray for that he gets recovered. And then with the Falcons, I mean, that's just, that's just, that's unfortunate.
You drafting quarterbacks.

Speaker 7 You drafted them a little bit earlier, drafted him a little bit earlier than some people expected you know what i'm saying coming off of he had a lot of injuries in college so you know it is what it is

Speaker 7 that's part of that that's part of the business

Speaker 7 some things go go they way some things go our way but at the same time he still got to deal with it physically yeah

Speaker 7 I just pray for him, you know, that mentally, that's just tough. Just, you know, like you said, your son gets hurt.
You've had surgeries.

Speaker 7 I've had surgeries, just continuous rehab and thinking you're back to a position.

Speaker 7 And then, but when you're getting older and you trying to play at the highest level, I think that could be a lot, a lot tougher. You know what I'm saying? Like you trying to get back,

Speaker 7 yeah, yeah, for sure. Especially, you know, that's it's not just playing the game anymore, it's like it's your career, it's your livelihood.
Yeah, but you know, 180 will help, you feel me?

Speaker 7 Help. I'm gonna pray for him all day, though.
Did he when you say did he get? I don't think he got 180,

Speaker 7 dude. Because he's on the rookie, he's on this rookie deal, right?

Speaker 7 They paid a different quarterback quarterback

Speaker 7 180.

Speaker 7 Oh, I think it might have been, was it Kirk Cousins? Kirk Cousins. Kirk Cousins.
Yeah, yeah. They paid Kirk Cousins 180.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 Yeah.

Speaker 7 They paid a different quarterback 180. And now he done did this.
So that's why they saying the Falcons looking, is done, got a quarterback in the top pick. He hurt.

Speaker 7 And then Kirk Cousins ain't really panned out with the 180.

Speaker 7 He ain't going. What are you talking about? He ain't.

Speaker 7 He ain't panned out with the 180.

Speaker 7 They paid him harder. Oh, yeah, that's for sure.
Kirk Cousins, he's sitting good. I'm tripping.
Kirk Cousins has been stinging him for a long time. Good man, I love Kirk Cousins and his agent.

Speaker 7 And they just right where you need to be. I'm a starring quarterback.
Good. Top is 60.
Give me 30. Top is 50-something.
I do 27. He was just right there, just stinging.

Speaker 7 Yes.

Speaker 7 They got to go earn it. Got to.

Speaker 7 No, if he's going to be, dude.

Speaker 7 Pennix was doing that. He ain't going to be able to give him that pennies.
No. He ain't going to be able to give him that pennies.
No. No, no, no, no, no, no.

Speaker 7 That's that's that's going to be that's going to be hard to hold man. Prayers up for Pennix, though.
For sure. No question, bro.

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