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The Seahawks beat the Vikings 26.

uh 26 nothing ahead of the season earnest joan i for oh joe you remember earnest joan iv came on saying he tried to ended the sea he's trying to end the season with six interceptions with six games to go.

He already has a career high for picks, including one he returned today for 85 yards on a touchdown. His first touchdown.

In the past six quarters, the Vikings have totaled zero points, 13 first downs, and 162 total yards. God.

Hey, I got a question.

How long before Justin Jefferson can't take it no more?

I gave him another year because it's been very prosperous over there for the first four or five years of his career. So it's just

a down year this year. But is that the Vikings being cheap? What you mean being cheap? Who are they supposed to pay?

Sam Darnold. Unc, that shit for sale.

So now with a... Well, you ask me who had it being cheap.

And guess what? And now you're starting to see Jamie J. McCarthy has an injury problem, Ocho.
Remember, he missed all last year. How many games did he miss this year? Guess what, Ocho? He hurt Ian.

This is the funny thing about it: is he really hurt?

Is he really hurt? Matter of fact, he got to be hurt. Did you see that quarterback play today?

He got to be hurt. They played him.

Trust me, they don't want to play him.

They don't.

They don't want to play him on yo I'm sorry

He got to be hurt

Maybe they want a maybe they want to see what he looked like

You said I'm in practice. You know what he looked like but you know sometimes sometimes in practice, you know, it don't tell you enough until you allow somebody to play in the game.

Some people, they practice bad, but play good in the game.

I ain't never seen that from a quarterback.

Hey, hey, Uncle He was bad today, boy. No, no disrespect to young bull, but like,

I'm not even sure how. You have disrespect.
19 to 30, 126 yards, four interceptions. Damn.
Four.

See, you know, maybe the Viking go get Kaepernick.

Who?

Who you say he gonna get?

Who you say he gonna get

you got jokes

who that man say you said capital? No, man, the man's still working, he's still in shape.

Listen, you want somebody that's gonna give you a chance.

It's over. It ain't um do you see, did you see what jesse jefferson had to deal with today

yeah

give him a chance been over

ain't nobody giving him no chance they didn't give him a chance the the year the year that he got released by the 49ers nobody gave him a chance you think somebody gonna give you a chance a decade afterwards hello well he's better than what they got in the room right now no he's not no he's not ojo so you think cap ain't better than what we saw today from the for the viking quarterback nope nope nope not after 10 years out of the league nope cap was never a proficient passer, Ocho.

Who else we got out there right now?

What the Vikings gonna do? What the Vikings gonna do? What are we gonna do?

They better go get, I guess they try to get Kyler Murray if they cut it.

Kyler,

Minnesota. Try to trade for Mac Jones.

Hey,

I'm picking up what you're putting down. Mac Jones, huh? A passer of the ball.
Yeah. Now they can use that.
Now, the important part is who we got calling the plays.

The same guy. Okay.
Okay, okay, okay, okay. We cooking a little bit.
We cooking a little bit. Hey, Mac Jones.
Yeah.

Mac Jones. But he's on the contract.
He's on the contract for another year with the. Oh, don't worry about that.
Don't worry about that. Don't worry.
We're taking care of him.

We'll take care of him.

We'll take care of him. I'm talking about we.
I'm just... come on mac joan come on down there come on down there with my boy uh jj

so you can see what it's like to throw uh throw to one of the best in the world flacco will be available nah flacco from the stay in cincinnati

what about jameis oh now you cooking unc you hey unc boy you know hey you a your ball knowledge is phenomenal you hear me hey but your ball knowledge tonight is phenomenal yeah you cooking boy you cooking Okay, all right, let me take that back.

Jameis Winson, he's gonna throw that ball. Joe Flacco, he's gonna throw that ball or Mac Jones to the Vikings.

I like that. I like those three.

You like either three of them. Yeah, and Justin Jefferson would agree.
Matter of fact, let me call him real quick.

Man, look here. At this point in time, Justin Jefferson would take me at quarterback.

I'm going to call him. I'm going to tell him right now.
See, this is a good, this is a good thing.

That's what I like about Nightcap is we could talk about players and then pick up the phone and talk to them about

JJ.

What's up, boy?

Shoot, man. I'm telling, but I'm right here.
I'm right here on Nightcap. I'm right here on Nightcap.

And we got a solution for you so you don't have no more problems going forward following next year, right?

Let me tell you what Unk just cooked up. This wasn't my idea, it was Unc' idea, so I want to make sure I give him the credit when it actually happens.

Next year, your quarterback, we either gonna have Jameis

Winston, yes, Yes, that Jameis. Yes, Jameis Winston, Joe Flacco, or Mac Jones.
Okay,

okay.

Hello?

Hello?

Man, he hung up on me, man.

Yeah. Ocho Chad say we weren't hard enough on Jerry Judy.
Say Jerry Judy gave up on the uh

Wait, Judy gave me, man, why y'all put SpongeBob in that sweater? Where's SpongeBob at?

Go to Twitter, man. They got SpongeBob in that sweater that I had on at the Memphis game.

What is it on your page?

Yeah, go to Nightcap.

In the past six quarters, as I mentioned, they have zero points, 13 first downs, 162 total yards.

Today, Ocho, today snap a 305-game streak, including playoffs, of avoiding shutouts, the third-longest actor streak in the NFL, dating back to 2007.

Ash, they say they want you to put it on the screen.

We can't show it's it's a gay skin footage. No, I'm talking about the SpongeBob.

Oh, well, they've been telling me to play the Jerry Judy clip.

Yeah, we can't play Jerry Judy.

Wait, what happened? What happened to Judy?

I guess

the route that he ran. No, they're not.
Oh, they animated on the sideline? Yeah. Nah, bro, we can't play that.
NFL take all our money. Hey, who got it? Ash got it already?

No, no, it's the footage that on the on the sideline. Y'all gonna have to.

I mean, Ocho

can Google it, but no.

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Oh, Joe, the Texans beat the Colts. Colts lose their first game at home 20 to 16.
C.J. Stroud was money on third down, going six for seven for 79 yards.

Those conversions played a big part in Wish Houston's second half, which they were able to give them enough to win.

CJ Stroud, 22 of 35, 276, no touchdowns or interceptions.

Nico Collins, five catches, 98 yards. Big, big, big, and he had a touchdown rush on a, you know, they tossed it to him.
Higgins had five for 65. Schultz had seven for 55.

Xavier Hutchinson had two for 29.

But

things getting tight. That division is going to be really,

as a matter of fact, don't Indy play Jacksonville next week, right?

Yeah, Indy played. I think Indy plays Jacksonville, and the Texans play KC in KC.

That's going to be nice. That's going to be nice.
Yeah.

KC better find out a way to block those edge. Will Anderson Jr.
and Daniel Hunter.

Yep, them boys, them boys bowling. Them boys bowling real well.
I mean, I watched some of this game. Obviously, I had multiple TVs on at the cigar bar.

And every time I looked over at this game, obviously there was no sound on this one. I had the sound on

the Browns game. Every time I looked over, goddamn Pierce was making a play and making a catch.
He was making a big play.

Obviously, I thought Jonathan Taylor, Jonathan Taylor almost got loose, but he wasn't able to get loose and have some of the crazy games he's had throughout the season.

Well, I gotta neutralize him. If you neutralize him, you somewhat good.

I'm gonna make Daniel Jones beat me, Ocho. I'm going to make Daniel Jones.
But

I can't let JT run for 150, 180, 200.

Because if he can run like that, guess what is going to happen, Ocho? They're going to play action off of him. He's going to kill you.
And so Cam Bynum, obviously,

one of my favorite safeties in the NFL.

He had an interception.

What else?

C.J. Stroud had him a nice little day.

Yeah, he had an interception. They got you in.

But, you know, at the end of the day, you got to win the game. And

they won the ball game to pull themselves back.

It's going to be very interesting. Indy's 8-4.
Jacksonville's 8-4. Jacksonville is a quiet 8-4, too.

That ball didn't go in. You heard me?

Jacksonville is a quiet, a quiet 8-4. Yeah.

I looked at this in real time, Mocho. If you look at that in real time, ain't no way that kick went in.

You don't think it went in

no

uh if it didn't go in they would have said they would they would have said it was no good

what the fan how do the fans react behind it

the fans the uh coach fans are are holding up their hands like it ain't no good

i thought it was no good in real time but you know hey them refs sitting right there right there field side and looking right up right at right above yeah i saw some i saw some refs miss miss a damn tripping call tonight, too.

The Broncos tripped the guy Mariota when they got that sack. And then they also missed it as he was down.
So don't tell me about the referees being right there because the ref is right there.

He's watching the quarterback. He watched the guy kick his leg out and trip Mariota.
He saw that. Mariota goes down.

And they talk about third. No, bro.
You missed a tripping call and a sack. First of all, the sack should have been null and void because he tripped him.

But Carol, but the Texans getting back in this thing, Ocho, and they needed to.

They didn't want, because what you call it would have been 9-3.

They'd have been 6-5.

No, they'd have been.

Yeah, they'd have been 6-6.

So

they fighting. It's going to be tough, Ocho.
Y'all only hoping y'all got to win y'all division.

Don't worry about that.

Listen, we're going to be all right.

We're going to be all right. The Bengals don't be all right.
Anybody else in the AFC, they don't want to see us right now.

They don't want to see us right now while the defense is playing the way they Buffalo want to see y'all.

Buffalo want to see y'all

and the Ravens want to see y'all after

everything they're looking for because we got we got Uno back, we got Joe back, we got T back, we got our defense playing lights out crazy despite what we look, despite what we're ranked statistically.

You hear me? Because that wasn't no 36, that wasn't no 32nd ranked defense we saw Thanksgiving Day.

It was. It definitely was.
But y'all raise your ugly hands. Y'all raise your ugly hands again.
No, it won't. No, it won't.

In a span of a month, Ocho, the Colts have gone from a multiple game lead in the AFC South to fighting for their playoff lives.

Today's loss dropped them into a tie with the Jags for the division and sets up an absolute massive game between the two teams next Sunday.

The Colts have lost three of their past four games after posting the best record in the NFL through the first eight weeks. Hey, The Jags beat the Titans by the score of 25-3.

Trevor Lawrence threw for 229 yards, two touchdowns, and didn't throw an interception for the first time since the Jags loss October the 9th. He finished with 111.5 passer rating for the first time.

He's posted a rating better than 100 since week eight of 2024.

Julius Chestnut. Said the Jags punter Logan Cook threatened to kill him.
He said he would kill me. He came up to me and said he would kill me.
Never heard that one before in my life.

That was strange, especially for a punter. You know, it's strange.

I wouldn't even tell nobody that. Hey,

why?

Everybody talking and shit. Y'all like that dry snitching on everybody, man.
Keep that stuff to yourself. Fez, it's okay.

It's okay.

Hey, but a Titan, Titan is.

I wouldn't take, first of all, I ain't taking anything a punter say seriously anyway. Man, shut your.

hey, um, but what do Titans need, huh?

What the Titans need? Cam.

Hey, Cam, Cam Ward is good.

Cam Ward is good. Now, there's only so much he can do.
What they need to put around him? Cam Warden needs a dog, man.

He needs a dog. Weapons, a running back.
You need a running back. You don't like Tony? Hold on.
You don't like Tony Pollard?

You need a running back. You need offensive lineman.
You need some wide receivers.

Hey. Your best wide receivers is gone.
Yeah, Calvin hurt. Calvin hurt.

Yep. Yeah,

they got to give him a dog, man.

But Tennessee serves you right. You traded AJ Brown.
You let Derrick Henry go.

You let Kevin Bayard go. Kevin Bayard leading the NFL interceptions.
Interceptions. Y'all don't think y'all can use that over there?

I know, I know. I know Jeffrey Simmons.
Frustrated as hell.

Hell yeah.

Hey, Jeff.

Brother Simmons, hey, holla at your boy.

You like Skyline Chili?

Huh?

No, y'all ain't going to be. Brother Simmons, we'll give you what you're looking for.

Yeah.

The Bucs beat the cards by the score of 20 to 17. The Bucs got a much-needed victory over Arizona to stop a three-game losing streak and improve to seven and five.
They have the same record.

If they had lost this game, Ocho,

and being Carolina one, Carolina would have been been first in the AFC South.

Hey,

hey, the Arizona Cardinals losing Unc, but they got Jam Jacoby Brissette. Boy, he's dealing.
Hey, he dealing and willing, boy, ain't he?

Boy, he was 20

for 42 TD for 301.

McBride, hey, McBride is nice, too. McBride might be top five tight ends in the league.
I'm right now. Oh, easy.
For me, I would probably rank him number one. Yeah?

Okay.

Yeah. Well, over.
Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. You're going to rank him number one over Brock Bowers?

It's close between him and Bowers. Okay.

It's very, very close. Man, Brian, yeah, he's nice.

I mean, really, really good. He's nice.

He can route your ass. I mean,

Brock can too. Both of these guys can route your ass up.
I mean, I watched

Zach Ernst. You see Zach Ernst running that arm over? Or Hubble Hafanga? You see that? Not colliding.
You could tell a route running tight.

You can tell tidy is that run routes as opposed to guys that block and used to bang to pay bumper cards to get open. You see, hey, her fanger was looking for him to bang.

Over.

That's me. I hate, no, but don't touch me.
I'm glass. I might break.

It's close. But

I love Brock Bowes since I first saw him as a freshman in Georgia. I said, this kid can play.
This kid going to play in the NFL for a number of years, and he's going to be really, really

nice. He's nice.

Baker with 18 to 28, 194, one touchdown.

Bucky.

His two turnovers kind of deal to me and OJ.

The two turnovers for Arizona.

Brissette threw a pick

and

the fumble.

Bucky Irving.

Bucky Irving back. Arizona's not that.
They're not that far away.

They're not.

But it just goes to show you

the quarterback.

I think Kyle has done it. You think so?

I do.

Hey, are you sure Arizona wants to hit that reset button already?

Yeah, they do.

Damn.

I just feel like they begrudgingly gave him the contract anyway. That's why you put the language in there that you put in.

Hey, that's tough. That's tough.
I I mean, listen, he's going to end up somewhere, though.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's going to end up somewhere because he's an immense talent, you know, despite

being short or whatever people may say, but there are ways you can use him where he can be effective for somebody's offense.

McBride.

Hey, chat. Chat, can y'all hear me?

What would be a good place for Kyler Murray to go play quarterback?

Chat, y'all hear me?

Hello?

Yeah, how many uh catches they have on Caesar?

The Steelers,

the Raiders? No,

go to Pittsburgh. I like Pittsburgh.
Okay, I like the Pittsburgh one. Colleen to the Steelers.

Raiders.

Somebody said Vegas. No, I mean, I'm getting the same two.
I'm getting the same three. He got 88 catches already?

Raiders? Well, he got to be up there damn near the lead league.

Who's leading the league? Chase?

Raiders.

Raiders. Vikings.

Wait, who got 80 catches?

McBride got 88 catches. How?

With five games to go. You sure?

I'm positive. Well, he got a thousand yards already.

He got to be damn close. Wait a minute.
88 catches?

He got 879. How many? Who leading the league? Chase? Chase got to have 90 then.

No, he must be leading, though. He has been stats all fucked up because it says Chase is 86.
Oh, okay.

Okay. God.
So he's leading the league in catches, OJ. Jesus Christ.

I mean, there's an outside chance that he could break. I think Zach Ertz has the record most catches by tight end.

I think Ertz had like 116. In a season? 117.
Man, that's crazy. Yeah, on the season.
Yeah. Hey, what's the record for a receiver? Was it Marvin Harrison held that record or it got broken?

No, no, no, no. Whatcha call him had the record? Michael Thomas, 149.
Yeah, and okay, okay, okay.

He must have broke the record.

Man, that's a lot.

Cup almost got it. He had 145 in like 1930.
So he likely got both of of them.

But you see, he was never the same after that. That's a lot of catches.
That's a lot of collisions.

I wonder how many yards. Think about it.
Michael Thomas was never the same after all those catches that season, Ocho.

Hey,

if you take

Ash Good at math,

yeah, what's up? Take

my season where I had the most catches, right?

And just

say I had 145 catches, what would my yardage be?

You will have the same. I don't know if you're going to have the same yards per catch.
Oh, that's right. Because they got to get you smoke routes.
They just can't get that. You're right.
You're right.

You're right. You're right.
Right.

Because think about how many screens Cooper Cup caught. I don't like them.

How many jet sweeps? I don't like them either.

I don't like them.

I don't want people to have a... Boy, you'd have caught, but

with that average that you can't catch that many pass boy you'd have called 2100 yards you think so

yeah

damn

that's another 50 catches what's the most you argue you average of the season

yards per catch I don't know you know I don't know them numbers

it's good it's good hearing that stuff though yeah

the season that you had uh uh your 14 other yards if you'd averaged the same thing on 145 catches, you'd had over 2,200 yards.

I would have been good, right? Yeah,

yeah.

So

now you see, you talk about man, if I'd had my both, what

they can't throw you them deep, they can't throw you that big, man. You'd have had to have 300 targets

to throw you that deep ball, you catch them. Ah, hell no.

Somebody be mad at you because you'd have been getting all the targets.

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Devon A-chain ran for 124 yards with a touchdown to help the Saints, uh, uh, uh, do the Dolphins help the Dolphins edge the Saints by the score of 21 to 17 for the third straight win.

Minka Fitzpatrick had a fumble recovery and an interception. Oh, he ran the two-point conversion back, right? That was a two-point conversion they tried.

Uh, he ran that back and uh, they win, but oh, O'Connell, oh, excuse me, O'Connell, But Devon H.A. been running, man.
Hey, he's toting that ball. Hey, hold on.

Man, I sure wish Kansas City would have given up that pick. Hold on.

22 carries a book, 34, one touchdown.

Darren Waller came back. Much needed.
27. 47 yards.
Waddle had three for 40.

Tua, 12 of 23, 157, zero touchdowns, one interception.

Shook, Tyler Shook, 26 of 38, 239, two touchdowns, one interception. V lay, eight for 93 in a touchdown.
Chris Olave, four for 47 in the touchdown.

Hey, huh.

You know Devon A. Chain was on Nightcap, huh?

Well, you know, ever since he's been on Nightcap, he's been running wild, huh?

I don't know.

I don't know, Chad, I don't know if it's y'all, and I don't know if you've been paying attention, but everybody that's come on Nightcap, whether it be college, whether it be NFL,

they just been balling. They've been doing, they just, I don't know what it is.
I don't know if it's a coincidence. Man, what happened to my goddamn camera?

It's trash.

I don't know what's going on, but

yeah.

Devon A-chain.

Tour.

Hey, hold on. The Dolphins scared me today.
They almost lost this game now. Yeah, they did.

There was a two-point version away from being tied. Man, Cam Jordan still out there balling.
He had two sacks today.

Chase Young had a sack. They sacked him four times.
Ocho, you remember the Alabama running back that came on last week?

You know, he had a broken jaw. And we tried to reschedule.
He said, nah, I want to go on nightcap with Uncle Docho.

So he was talking to us with a broken jaw. He was?

Yep.

Damn. And when you break your jaw, how long you got to stay out? He couldn't, but he didn't play.
That's why he didn't play in the game, Ocho.

And And his agent, and his agent told him, said, No,

you don't have to come on. He said, No, I want to go on nightcap with Uncle Docho.

All right, that's dope.

That's dope.

So, Kev, heel up, man. Thank you for coming on.
We really, really appreciate it, man.

Really, really appreciate that. Means a lot.

What else we got? Justin Herbert threw two touchdown passes. Despite a hand injury, Chargers send their Raiders to the sixth straight loss.

Herbert broke a bonus his non-throwing hand during the Chargers' first offense in the series.

After covering it with a hard cast and a white glove, he spent the rest of the afternoon taking shotgun snaps and handing off to the running back whenever possible.

Where he spent the dress of the half carving up the Raiders.

Hey, the Raiders, hey,

I don't even know what to say.

I don't even know what to say. The Chargers did what the Chargers did.

Everybody right now that has to play the Raiders, you might as well chalk that up as a win. You could talk about it as a win.

The Chargers look good.

Now, I'm concerned for the quarterback situation, though. He has to get surgery in that hand.
How long is he going to be out?

They might not have surgery on it.

What they're going to put a club on it? Not a club, but

they put a hard calf on the top of it. And he probably got to wear a glove, huh?

Oh, they said you're going to have surgery, Ocho. Oh, yeah.
So I guess he'll have

they'll probably put

a carbon fiber or titanium plate with something that's lightweight so it doesn't weigh them down. It'll be hard.
I can't imagine him taking snaps up on the center. That jarring? Yeah, every time.

Woo, that's going to hurt, boy. Golly.

Hell, if anything, then he should have had surgery after the game.

He probably have it tomorrow. Yeah, Herb and get that out the way.
Herb and get that out the way fast

vdal he came on the show too ocho

hey he was balling today boy

came on the show he was balling they had some really nice catches

um brock bowers had four catches 63 yards two touches

chin

well you never like to see your safety have this many tackles but he had 17 hey Boy, buddy be coming to the party, boy.

He finna pull up.

He don't need no address,

but you wearing the wrong jersey. He will be there.

But right now, we got a two-game lead in the AFC West.

And we got the Raiders. I think we got the Raiders this week, don't we? Did we got the Raiders this week? Oh, yeah, I told you what was going to happen.

You hoping? No, I'm not. I'm not hoping.

You got to understand how football works. The Raiders can't keep on losing game after game after game after game.

At some point, there's going to be a game that they're going to win, and the game they're going to win is going to be against a team that nobody expects them to lose against.

Watch, I'm telling you.

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Hey, I feel good at night, boy. God damn.

Oh, damn.

I got to do this right. I got to get this right.
Okay, Drake May, 271 pass and rush yards tomorrow. How do you say pass? You said pass and rush yards.

Yes.

What'd you think? Drake May? Hell yeah. Wait, who they playing? They playing

the Giants?

Oh, yeah, absolutely.

All right, we're going over.

Hunter Henry, 39 receiving yards. Hey,

yep, that's his favorite target.

Jackson Dart,

more than 30 rush yards. Yes, I'm going over.

Because one thing about it, when he don't see it,

taking off.

I would say going under. You think so? All right.

Yeah, I think he'll be hesitant.

Yep.

asked them, but he ain't learning exactly.

Traviya Henderson, more than 81 rush and receiving yards.

What do the Giants rank offensively? I mean, defensively, against the Rush.

Giants good against the rush

shoot man they got they got they got oh yeah oh yeah he gonna get that they dead last against the rush

hey you know you know it's funny how they dare last against the rush with so many good with such a good uh front

well

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Ocho, as I mentioned before, the Patriots beat the Giants by the score 33 to 15. New England led 30 to 7 at the half.
Giants special teams. Guess what?

Marcus Jones, who will be the all-pro returner this year, a 94-yard point return to really break it open. And Christian Ellis.
Boy, he unlooked. Ocho, I told you.
I told you last last night.

You say he goes. I said, Ocho, he ain't learned his lesson yet.
Yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no. He ain't learned his lesson.

See how he went flying? Check. When you see a guy going flying like that, that means he's totally relaxed.
He didn't brace himself.

So he's running because when they teach you to sprint, what do they tell you to do? Relax.

So he's totally relaxed.

This is the only time they get, you're a runner. Yeah.
They can't hit you like that no other time. Right.
They're not going to pull up.

They are going to try to unload. And boy, he had, hey, a Jackson Dart must have had an air tag on him.
Because, boy, when he honed in on him, he,

I don't even know what an air tag is, but I hear people talking about it. Yeah.
I hear people talking about air tags and they can find somebody's location. Well, listen, he found his location.

And then guess what, Ocho? You see him on the kickoff? Yeah. Go to sleep.
Yeah. Do you caught him? Hey.

Jackson Dart has to be safe. He has to be safe.
He's a special player. He's going to be special.

What he can do when he has the ball in his hands i being able to extend plays make things happen off a script outside of the scheme that outside of the plays that are called he's going to be good but he has to learn to protect himself and know know when the journey's over know it's okay to step out of bounds it's okay to slide you don't have to be taking on db you don't have to take on linebackers and prove that you're tough that team that team is going to be good once they get malik back once they get scattered scatterbow back they're going to be nice i think they're right to make it maybe get maybe get a a

playmaking safety or corner i think maybe an offensive line but because i think they have the pieces oh choose i do think they have pieces yeah the patriots are really really good the one thing they're really really well coached we know that about breakmen yes sir we saw that in tennessee tennessee y'all made a big mistake y'all made a big mistake you should have never let this man out of the building coaches like him don't come along often no you let derrick henry out the building you let uh uh uh aj brown

excuse me out of the building yeah

you You can't keep having turnover like that. You can't be personal.
I mean, because you get, if you get too involved as an owner, it becomes personal. You get rid of the guy.

And I think that's why the Patriots

lasted so long is that Mr. Kraft stayed away.
He didn't let his personal feelings, what he thought about Coach Belichick get involved. And then you can let things blossom the way they should be.

But, man, when you look at them, Drake made 24-31, Ocho, 282, two touchdowns. You've got a 29 carries,

a buck 19. Hunter Henry, four for 73.
Ramondre Stevenson, three for 30, 3 for 40, excuse me. Boute had 4 for 35 and 1.
Kyle Williams had 1 for 33 and 1 tuck.

They are very good. Very good.
Look, they ain't got nobody that. They don't got no big name receives that jump off the board at you, Ocho.
They ain't got, hey, Drake May has, but they got that guy.

Yeah. See, if you got that guy, Ocho.

I don't think people understand how good Drake May has been. Like, obviously, I knew he was good.
I didn't know he was this good, huh? Yeah, I didn't know he was good.

I agree.

I think he has a completed percentage of about almost damn near 70%.

70% dating back to last year. And I'm not talking about 70%, completed percentage throwing screen, not bubble screens, not check downs, not throwing to the running back.

I'm talking about plays over 20 yards, 20 yards or better. And that lets me know, for one, he's not scared to let it rip.

Not only is he not scared to let it rip, he is insanely accurate with the ball as well. Yep.
So, and you know what I like about the receiving core?

You say they don't have a superstar receiver, they don't have a true number one, but every game, somebody else shows up.

Every game, somebody else,

huh? The guys fit. Yes, they fit.
You look at he had three completions over 30 yards. He had a 36-yard to Hunter Henry, a 36-yard to Ramondre Stevens, and he had a 33-yarder to Kyle Williams.

He had one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine. He had nine completions of at least 10 yards.
So that tells me, Ocho, that he's unafraid to push the ball down the field. Down the field.

Yeah.

Look, there could be times you screen the ball, Ocho. I get that.
You're going to run screen to the running back.

You're going to run a smoke screen or jailbreak screen, bubble screen, whatever they call them now. You're going to run that.

But at the end of the day, at some point in time, you're going to have to take chances down the field. You're going to have to push the ball down the field.

And he's unafraid to push the ball down the field. Give Josh McDaniels scream credit.
Look, he might not be a great head coach, but he's an unbelievable offensive coordinator. Unbelievable.

Yeah, very good. Unbelievable.
He puts guys in the right position, and everybody has flourished under him. Look, I throw Tom Brady out because Tom Brady flourished under everybody.

But when you look at what he's done with Mac Jones, you look at what he did with Jimmy Garoppolo, you look at what he did with Jacoby Brissette, you look at what he did with Mac Jones.

Now you look at what he's doing with Drake May. Drake May, yeah.
His ability to get the quarterback to understand

what he wants and the quarterback to be an extension of the offensive coordinator on the field

is second to none. They're like, look, Kyle Shanahan and Sean McVay and Andy Reid, but Josh McDaniel doesn't have to take a back seat to any of them.
No, no, absolutely not.

Because he has success with every quarterback he's touched. Every quarterback he's had to deal with, they've had success on the field.

And like you said, the quarterback has always been an extension of him.

And outside of the GOAT being Tom Brady, the fact that he's been able to do it with everyone he's been a part of says a lot about him being the quarterback whisperer. Yeah, and wasn't he the guy?

Was he was he the was he the OC when um Matt Castle?

You know, I'm not sure

was it him or um it was him because that then he winded up going to Denver if I'm not mistaken about him and he was he was the head he was the head coach in Denver because uh Charlie Weiss left and went to know the name,

yeah.

Okay,

wasn't was it

that have been 2000 and

they lost the Super Bowl in 07.

You sure wasn't him? It wasn't Bill O'Brien. Which one? And that's what I'm saying.
It might have been him, or it might have been him or Bill O'Brien. Right.

But he left and went to the Broncos.

He might have gone to the Broncos in 9, though.

Yeah, 08 was McDane. Oh, 08 was McDane.
So it was him that lost that Super Bowl.

Who lost the Super Bowl? Bill O'Brien?

Daniels was OC from 06, 08. Okay, yeah, okay.

So

it's he, he, he, his ability to, to, to

have a vision of what he wants his offense to look like and to communicate that with the quarterback and get the quarterback on the same wavelength so they see things eye to eye. Yes.

He's, he's, he's unbelievable. Like I said,

he's been a lot of places as a head coach, and it doesn't work. But play calling when he's just responsible for one thing, the offense.

Ojo. Yeah, listen, he's one of the best.
He's one of the best.

Ocho. Yo.
We saw something tonight, Ocho.

I hadn't seen this since Peanuts. The last time I see somebody miss a ball like this, it was Charlie Brown.
But Lucy moved it. Wait a minute.
What happened? Did you see the kicker?

Oh, you talking about my dog, Young-Ho?

Yeah. Hey.
Hey, I'm not sure, but you got to keep your eye on the ball. You got to keep your eye on the ball.

And listen, me, me as a kicker, you know, I the one thing you do you should never be able to miss a kick you should never be able to stub your toe it's all about the foot hand i'm talking about the foot the foot and eye coordination like ocho you you you do that so often how does that even happen not by oh okay let's because we've seen guys they get too much of the ground and you kick the ball and it doesn't go through we ain't seen nobody miss the whole damn ball and just don't it don't it's the holder looking back the holder like hold on you got me down to this down position they about to to tear my ass up.

Let me get up out of here. Yeah, hey,

I've never seen that. Listen, I've never seen that.
In all my years of playing football,

I've seen him hit the dirt. Like, you know,

when you swing the T and you catch the dirt before you hit the ball. Yes.

I've seen that. But I've seen stub your toe and not even make contact with the ball at all.
That's the first.

I saw, look, I've seen guys kick the ball low and kick the guy in the ass that's snapping the ball to him.

I've seen guys get hit in the head with the ball that's kicking it, but I've never seen he missed the entire ball. Ojo, he wasn't even close to kicking the ball.
No, not even close. Not even close.

And I'm with Jackson Dart. Jackson Dart, like, what the? Yeah, that's what I said too.
That's exactly what I said. Yeah.
What the F?

I'm like, bro.

I'm hoping that, hoping that doesn't cost him, that doesn't cost him his job.

He lost his job in Atlanta. Atlanta, yeah, yeah.
But missing kicks. He went somewhere else and shanked some kicks.
Yeah.

Damn. You know, it's look.

You have to have mental toughness to play a professional sport and to be good at it. Yes.
But when you get them demons as a kicker,

it's like a golfer. You get the yields, David Duvall, and Baker Finch.
You see guys, you see guys, second baseman chucking Law Block. They couldn't throw the ball to first base.

They play a second base. Yeah.
They couldn't throw it. Yeah, but Brick ain't killed.
He was a pitcher. He had to move to the outfield on your because he couldn't get the ball across the plate.

But you got a problem, Monk.

You got a problem. You have to understand,

certain positions on the football field, certain positions, they get chances over and over and over to prove themselves. Kickers, games are one and lost on your goddamn leg.

Games are won and lost, and you can change the trajectory of a game and it's ending on your leg. You don't have opportunity to be making those kinds of mistakes,

especially in games of importance. Now, it's a bad thing that the goddamn Giants are 2-11.

So, I mean,

it doesn't make any sense, but, but, but coaches want consistency at that one position.

If I have to be able to count on one thing, it's having a kicker that can be consistent for me and always give us points once we get in field goal range.

They might not be good right now, but I want to be around when they do get good so I get an opportunity to kick.

But doing stuff like this here, guess what, Ocho? They saying, I got to go into the market. I got to get me another kick.
I got to get me a kicker. Yeah.
Because

the one that we have, he isn't reliable. Right.
And I've got to be able to count on you. Because more times than not, these are one possession games.
Yeah.

You might have to kick the ball to get us into overtime. You might have to win it.

We don't know. Right.
But I need to be able to trust you.

I can't go out there, Lord, have mercy. Please let him make this kick.

Every time you go out there, I mean, I'm going to have to pray every once in a while, but if I got to pray every time you go kick, I got to pray for the PAT. I got to pray for the field goal.

I got to pray you don't kick it out of bounds.

That's too much.

I don't mind praying, Lord.

Don't take this the wrong way. I don't mind praying,

but I want to use some of those prayers for something beneficial. Yeah, right.

You know what's funny, too, also, when it comes to kickers in the NFL, I know there's 32 of them. They're 32 teams.
They're 32 kickers, but they just like quarterbacks, huh?

They're just like, I'm talking about the good quarterbacks.

I'm not talking about your regular, your Aubreys in Dallas, your Cam Willis, your McPhersons,

those top dudes, it's hard to find find those that are consistent. Hell, if you play for the goddamn Cowboys, you get to the 50, 50 yard line.

Wait, you not even, no, you get to the 40-yard line, not even your 40.

You in range. Yep.

You in range.

McPherson, Cincinnati kicker. He just hit 65 not too long ago.

You get to the 50, you in range. Yeah, Cam Little killed 65.
Cam little Cam Little. I said, Yeah, Cam.
That's what I meant. Cam Little.

Hey, man, come on, man.

It's only a few of them.

You're right.

But yeah,

that was a, like I said, I could be in the minority chat, but I don't think the Giants are as far as people think they are. Nah.
I think they got guys.

I think, you know, Brian Burns and Dexter Lawrence coming along. Thibodeau is out.
Thibodeau normally. Was he out today? Because

I didn't see him. I think he's hurt.

And I don't know if he's going to be back.

I don't know if they picked up his option, Ocho, his fifth year option. So I'm not sure he's going to be back.

And then plus the fact that you got Abdul Carter, you took him with the second pick, third pick in the draft. So there's a likelihood that you're probably going to move on from Thibodeau.

I'm not sure.

But you got Brian Burns, who you played a lot of money for. You got a lot of money tied up in the bank.

He got a lot of sacks too, Nan. Who that? Brian Burns.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm saying.

So you got pieces that you can build around. You got to, like I said, Dexter Lawrence is a top defensive lineman.
You got Brian Burns, who's a top edge rusher.

You drafted Abdul Carter with the hopes that he could be the opposite of Brian Burns. So you have guys that can play off each other.

Like the Broncos got Bonito and Cooper, or you got Verse and you got Young at the Rams. You got guys that can play off of each other.
And so you slide the protection one way. I get one-on-one.

Somebody got to eat.

I think the Giants are really, really close. I just think the quarterback needs to be a little smarter.

Live to see another day. You got to know when the journey is over.
Everything, hey, everything. I get it.

If it's a situation like in the Super Bowl where John had to do the helicopter, that's one thing.

But in a game like this, here you're on the sideline, bro.

I'd rather you go out of bounds and be two yards short as opposed to get the first down and take that shot. Because, bro, you're not built for that.
You're not built to take those kind of shots.

Nope, not at all. Not at all.

He's exciting, though. He's

exciting to watch. Oh, Choe, Mike Kafka was asked why Abdul Carter didn't play the first quarter.
It was just my decision not to play him. This is the second time in three weeks.
Yes, sir.

Ocho, you got drafted guy the third pick in the draft. Ain't no way you just make a decision to arbitrarily sit him out.
Well, obviously something happened. It was discipline, discipline reasons.

We don't know exactly what it was. Ocho, he got disciplined a couple of weeks ago.

What's not resonating to him?

I don't know. I don't know.

I don't know.

he you know remember he fell asleep and missed the walkthrough yeah oh you know hey things happen yada yada yada it ain't gonna happen again lesson learned boom boom boom right here we are basically two three inside of a month yeah and we got this again oh Joe what is it that he's not getting bro this is professional football you're not at Penn State

You're not at Penn State. And you can get away with that at Penn State because you were the guy.

There are greater expectations of of you, Abdul Carter. Yeah.
Oh, Joe. Yes, sir.
This man, think about it now. This man says, you know what, I want 56.

Well, if I can't get 56, let me get the double hockey sticks.

Let me get 11.

Do he understand what those jerseys mean and what it does?

First of all, 56.

You ain't going to name, you can't name, you can't name two. First of all, I think LT is the greatest defensive player ever.
Yeah. I can make a case LT is the greatest football player ever.

Just give me a little time. I'll let you debate who you want to debate.
You can take Brady. You can take Peyton.
You can take Jerry.

And I can make a case that Lawrence Taylor is the greatest football player ever because he's the guy. He made two positions famous.
No other player has made two positions famous.

He made the edge rusher famous and he made the left tackle famous. Because if you couldn't get a left tackle to block him, you couldn't beat the Giants.

And if you couldn't find an edge rusher like LT to rush the quarterback, you couldn't put pressure on the quarterback. So he made two positions famous.

Go back and study.

like i said i know look lt you know the drugs and all that other stuff and he had some stuff off the field after after of his career right but i don't think people realize because there are a lot of guys that's one three defensive player of the years and and stuff people don't realize how good lt was they don't i understand they do not really i mean whoever you think the best foot but the best defensive player that you've seen with your own eyes if you're under the age of 40 whoever the best player is

make a case, and I'll make a case for LT. And you, when I'm done, you're like, yeah, LT the best.
Yeah, yeah, whomever. And I think there have been some fabulous.

I played in the era with LT, with Reggie, with Bruce, with Tyne, with Ray Lewis, with Mike Singletary, with

Leslie O'Neill, Howie Long. I played in the league with some great ones.
Yes.

But he different.

He different.

He set the bar. He set the standard for that position in general.

I tell you what, when you name your top five defensive players, he ain't never left off that list. Nah, and most of the time he's number one.

Most of the time, he's one.

You're absolutely right. But, man, look at OJo.

Watching the Patriots.

And seeing how disciplined and how well coached they are.

You know everything is easy when you have a quarterback, too, huh? Oh, yeah. You understand that?

When you have a quarterback like that, his decision making is as good as as good as it as good as it is

man goddamn boy listen josh mcdaniels

i i i don't know i don't know i don't know what it is like everything fits over there offensively not only do you have a quarterback you have the the pieces the complementary pieces that fit just right You understand how to put each player

in the right positions to play to their strengths and hide their weaknesses, if there are any. But every player has weaknesses.

Yeah, for sure. Yes, and you play to a player's strength and you stay away from his weaknesses

as much as you possibly can. Yeah, and

Josh has mastered that, and Drake May is having a effing ball doing so.

Them boys, 11-2, man.

Drake is in his sophomore year.

It's his sophomore year, right? Yes.

They won 10 games

after losing the previous year, they lost 13. Only the 99 Colts.

Because when Peyton got there, they lost all those games. Then the next year, they were the number one seed in the AFC.
Yeah. Now, that's crazy.
That's crazy. Yeah.

But when you have that guy,

when you have that guy, when you have that one foundational piece. Yeah.

Hell, I can build anything on a solid foundation, but that's all it is. That's all it takes.

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