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Ocho, hours after the Eagles lost to the Bears on Friday, Philly O.C. Kevin Petulo was a victim of a house getting egg.

Petullo has been heavily criticized this season for the underperformance of the Eagles' offense. The team ranks at the bottom third of nearly every offensive category.
Ocho,

considering how much eggs cost, man, damn near like,

what, eight, nine dollars done? Hey, listen,

they told me we were in a financial crisis. They told me the economy was bad.
And we got people out here wasting eggs to egg somebody's house. Listen, I love the Philly fans.

Philly fans are very passionate. a very passionate fan base.
They travel well. They support their team through thick and thin.

They ain't really had too much thin, but goddamn, this is the same fan base that threw snowballs at at Santa Claus years ago. I hear that story all the time.

He deserved it. He ain't bring no gifts.

So something likes this doesn't surprise me, being how serious they are about their football team.

They won the Super Bowl last year. Things haven't been the same.
The offense doesn't look the same. So who is to blame? Whose name keeps coming up over and over and over?

Listen,

they're going a little too far. They're going a little too far.

They need to have 24-hour security at Kevin Patullo's house so he doesn't have this issue anymore.

They don't do the players like that.

I mean,

damn.

I'm very for it. Look, I get it.
I get that, you know, fans get upset. They want to win.
I mean, they're so passionate. You know, fan is short for fanatic.

And when you're fanatic about something, you sometimes, you know, you go over the edge and you get fanatical about it. Yeah.

that's not to excuse I don't want I don't want you guys to take this the wrong way to say it's because they're upset they have a right to be upset boo all that you want to yes but don't don't damage the man property yeah yeah come on that's too far

don't don't

damage the man's property that's what I'm saying look

they need to get this thing fixed It was it was a lot easier for Jalen Hurst to play quarterback last year because Ocho, he was throwing the wide open windows because it was single coverage

because we got to get this eighth guy down to stop Saquon,

got to stop Saquon. Look, he's not the greatest thrower of the football, and that's not a knock.
There are a lot of guys that's been able to

make in the league without being great throwers of the football. Everybody, look,

everybody's gonna be Aaron Rodgers,

everybody go, everybody's gonna be a Patrick Mahomes, and some of these great throwers of the football. Some people are gonna have to win games a different way, right?

And so, you know, we

I think the thing is with Jalen is that we look at him in it's,

it's not as aesthetically pleasing to the eye. Is he as great a throw in the football as Dak? No, absolutely not.

You might say that, well, he won a Super Bowl. Okay.

If that's your only measure, take off. But

there have been a lot of players that have won Super Bowls that's not as good as some of the players that haven't. Right.
But they need to figure this out and what's going on.

Jalen's going to have, they're going to have to trust Jalen. Jalen's going to have to trust them.
And he's going to have to take some risk.

He just is. Yeah.

Listen, I. Because

I just don't see a scenario now, Ocho, where this running game,

this running game ain't even close to what it was last year. No, absolutely not.
And the fact that it hasn't got going this late into the season is probably not going to show up.

It's probably not going to show up. I mean, I mean, this far into the season.
But one thing I do know is I wouldn't count Jalen out. Honestly,

regardless of whether we can run the ball, regardless of how people feel about him being able to throw the ball, I think

they all have a winning mentality. And that goddamn, that quarterback, he has the worst, the worst

when it comes to just, it's football. Football only.
He don't smile. He don't make no jokes.
He's locked in and he's been locked in since they won that Super Bowl.

So if they're going to win, I think it's going to have to be on the shoulders of him and on the arm of that quarterback. And I think having A.J.

Brown, having Devontae Smith, I feel they're going to be okay. Kevin Tupula, I mean, Mr.
Petulo, he's still going to be calling the plays.

He's still going to be calling the plays. So it's going to be onus, the onus in winning those games, since you can't run, it's going to have to come from Jalen.

I think the thing is for me, Ocho, I'm going to see if he's going to be the offensive coordinator next year. Because I remember when they went through that lull.
Yeah. And he said he believed in them.

Right. That quarter, but

he wasn't the coordinator the following year. Right.

And

that's when they brought Kellen Moore in. And Kellen Moore, they got called the plays.
They went to the Super Bowl and they won it. So we'll see.
I mean, everybody says, oh, yeah,

we win as a team. We lose as a team.
But we'll see how much are you willing to take losing as a team before you make changes. Right.
Because we'll see.

Listen, they're going to make them. But, you know, the coaches, you know, Sirianni gonna say all all the right stuff publicly.
He gonna say all the right stuff.

They do every, everything is always politically correct when they speak. But he know their issues because job, you know, jobs, jobs are at stake.

I know you're just coming off a Super Bowl win last year, but I mean, hell, I mean, what's going on this year is unacceptable.

You know, by their standards, by not just the team standards, not the organization, hell, by the fan standards as well. That's why they're egging the goddamn coach house.

We not finna, we not, man, what's up?

Now, you got, you better get it. You better get it together, Dickie.
Figure it out.

Yeah, it's tough. Um, because, like, when you win the Super Bowl, that's the expectation.
Yeah, people think Super Bowls are easy.

People think you just, oh, once you win it, you just keep winning and winning and winning and winning. No.
People don't realize, like, when Tom, when Tom, they like, okay, they won in 0-1.

They missed the playoffs in 0-2, and then they won three and four.

They didn't win in five. They didn't win in six.
They got back in seven. They didn't get back in eight.

They got back in 10. Then they missed 11, 12, 13.
They got back in four.

It's, bro, it's hard.

It's hard to repeat. That's why they have only been a handful.
They've been, what, 59 Super Bowl winners? Only a handful of those are repeated. It's hard.

It's not something that's easy to do

because you have so much turnover.

as far as like you get your fridge, you can only sign a few and then people come steal all some of your best players that you can't resign. Some of your best coaches, they get other jobs, Ocho.

They go to college, they get the uh jobs in the NFL, and then

you all, this is the biggest problem that you have. Yeah, you get guys wanting to do more when what they did last time was enough.

So, everybody wants to be the reason why. So, now I need to do more.
Ocho, you caught 85 Pauls last year, man. I need to catch 100 now.

No, 85 was plenty, yeah,

Yeah. But

I think the thing is, like, hey, what? We in week 14, right? Yes. God damn,

but the season almost over, boy. It is.
It is. Two months.

You think they got a chance to turn it around? What you think? If it ain't turned around or at least at least show signs of

I think it's going to be a coming on Jalen. I don't think they're going to be able to run the football.
I don't. Because the offensive line isn't the same.
Your center's banged up.

Your right guard is not very good. Your right tackle is not Lane Johnson.
Right.

Dickerson is injured. You know, he had his knee operated on before the season.
So he's basically out there on one leg, just gutting it up. They're not the same offensive line.

They're not the same offensive team. Yeah.

I got you.

Listen, listen. Listen, for Petulo's sake, I hope things turn around.

You know, I think he needs to have 24-hour security outside his home from this point on. I mean, it's unfortunate that it's come to this.

But I think he also needs to understand how serious the fans of Philly take

their football. This ain't no joke.

The fans of Philly, they beat up Santa Claus, man.

They hit him with snowballs. Like, you know, you know, you know how serious that is?

I do.

We took Santa?

Man, the people in Philly don't play.

Man, they do not play.

There's a certain standard that you must live by as a coach, as a player, and we don't meet that goddamn standard, what happens?

You get egged.

You get snowballs. I mean, no disrespect.
You know, I'm not trying to be funny. I'm just saying.
Like Philly, man, I'm fan, they don't play. They travel well, they support,

and they mean business.

a lot of the teams to uh current two-game skid Eagles ledger Seth Jordan I bet I should have called Seth I'd have known that you gonna have I'd have called it if he came on tonight that's but that

that's my guy man we a self 98 we had a guy you enjoyed the running back

we had the running back no self was a linebacker oh he was on green bay in 97 we beat them in green we beat him when he was on green bay then he came to us and got a super bowl and self said i'm out of here bro i'm done

uh In light of the team's current two-game skid, Eagles legend Seth Jonah had some harsh criticism for AJ Brown.

Throughout the season, AJ has consistently complained after wins because he was unhappy with his lack of involvement.

Over the last two games, he's had his best two statistical performance of the season, and we didn't hear any complaints out of him. Losses.
Jonah took issue with that.

A lot of people are going to be pissed at me, and they might be even pissed at me, but a lot of ways, he's a typical receiver, 21st century wide receiver diva.

He's selfish because he's getting getting the ball on a regular basis and there's no complaining. The Eagles lost two games in a row and A.J.
Brown had nine plus targets at a touchdown.

You ain't complaining now. That tells me that's all that bitch in the morning was really about, was really self-centered.
Well, you goddamn right.

What did he talk about? Goddamn, Seth, yes. All receivers want the ball.
That's the whole point.

What do you talk about?

Everybody's selfish at some point in the game of football. Yes, it's the team sport.
Yes, we want to win. But also, we need to be productive.
We want to be productive. He didn't sign up.

If he wanted to run track, he would have ran track.

If he wanted to run up and down the field and not do anything and not be productive, he would have ran track. He wants to be productive.
He makes $33 million a year. He wants the ball.

to coincide with the money that he's making. Yes.

Winning is a team accomplishment.

It's not just on AJ Brown, it's not just on Saquon Barkley, it's just not on Jalen Hurts.

It's a team effort collectively as a group. When everybody does everything right in unison, you get a W.

I mean, what are we talking about here?

It's tough. Very.
Because a part of me understands what he's going through. Yeah.

And a part of me, like, man, look, I wanted the ball too, but I understood at the end of the day, it's just hard.

It's just hard. And fans are going to look like, bro, we winning.
Man, we winning. We winning.
Just shut up. If we weren't winning and you're not getting the ball, I'm going to be on your side.

I'm going to have a banner. Throw to AJ.

But when you're winning, and I get the uh he told he promised the owner that he wasn't gonna speak out anymore so he wasn't gonna do say anything after games or he wasn't gonna put anything on social media so that's probably that might be a reason why he's not saying anything because he promised Jeffrey Lurie that he wasn't going to say anything

it's just it's just tough that

when you win the complain

because I thought the ultimate goal was to win. And I get his point that, look, I'm a number one receiver.
You paid me money.

You traded for me to come here okay treat me like that and throw me the ball hey i got a question yes

you know the eagles defense gave up you know how many yards last week

i do yeah a whole lot

goddamn defense the one of the one of the few games one of the few games all year long finally that damn collapsed

and and when we needed the offense to pick us up what happened Yeah, they didn't show up.

I keep telling people, I said, look,

whatever your best unit is, they're going to have an off Sunday or two. The question is,

can the other unit that's not as strong, can you pick them up?

There were a couple of games in the regular season in 2000. Our defense didn't look like the defense that we had known and come and love.

Offense had to pick it up. We picked it up against Jacksonville.
We ended up winning 39, I think 39, 33, 39, 36, something like that.

And we ended up, it was a close game against the Jets, the last game of the season.

But

at times, it's those types of it, those happen. Yeah.
But, like you said, for the better part of three months,

the defense had been sensational, has been stalwart. Awesome.

And the offense, okay,

man, we ain't got it today. Come on, AJ, come on, Saquon.
Come on, Jalen. Come on, Javante.

So

it's hard for any unit to be

up here. Yeah.

Give you another example. The Super Bowl with Tom Brady.
Yeah.

They have been scoring all those points. They scored more points than anybody else in NFL history up until that point.

And the one game they couldn't get that, what did they need the defense to do, Ocho?

Lock them down. Lock them down.
We got the lead. Just keep them out of the end zone.
Right.

We kick a field. They kick a field goal.
We go on time. We might win the top.
Blue gold eyes go boom.

Happens sometimes. Sometimes it happens that way.
Where the unit that's not as strong or hasn't been as statistically strong during the regular season, we need them to come

pull us through for a couple of games, Ocho. Right.

Happens sometimes. It's tough.

It's really tough. Hey,

does it get any easier for the Eagles?

No.

No, they got a Sunday night game against the

oh, they play the Chargers. Oh, my God.

And the Chargers' defense, they, Khalil Mack,

the Samoa, I forget his name, 45. They can put pressure on your quarterback.

Let me see. Derwin.

Derwin James, yeah. They got Henley.
They got Perry.

Henley, nice. Khalil Mack, they're collapsing the pocket.
They can run. Yeah.
Now, we're going to see

Justin Herbert had surgery today on that hand. They say he's day by day.
They'll know more later in the week whether or not he's going to play.

They got no, I don't know if they're how good a chance they're going to have a winning if Trey Lance is the quarterback, but hey.

Damn, man.

You can't force your defense. Because think about it, Ocho.

How many plays that defense played on Thursday?

Oh, Friday. Excuse me, Friday.
Friday, they played Friday. They played Black Friday.

So,

hey, guys, hey, hey, the day we ain't got it.

Y'all better be getting it. Because we ain't got it either.

But

it's tough. Yeah.

It's tough. Because when you're the guy, you know, people don't look, but hey, how many balls you catch today? Man, I ain't catching with three.
Damn, what happened to you?

Man, they ain't throw me the ball. What the hell you mean? What happened to me

so it's uh

it's tough it's tough

it's a few it's a few teams you know and and and and some issues and troubles with their seasons you know right now where it's it's it's looking dim it's looking dark the chiefs is another one

they they they they got to get it together oh they got to win out

oh they got to get it together oh joe i remember look let me tell you how I was. I remember when I first got to Undisputed, and they was like, Man, Skill be doing all man, you skip talk all the time.

I say, I don't get paid by the word, I get paid by the day, right? So long as I show up, I'm going to make the same money, right?

When I was at CBS, you know, we had all those people on the panel. You might get, hey, first of all, it's an hour show.
You got a host, and you got four other guys sitting up there. Yeah.

So by the time they get to you, hey, sometimes I have like three minutes.

All I know, that direct deposit hit, I got paid by the date, so I ain't, I ain't complaining about no talk time because they don't play me, pay me by the word, right?

They pay me by the word, and I'm trying to get in. I'm talking over everybody.

I ain't gonna be all the hold you to that. I'm talking over everybody.
Let me get, hey, let me get my quota in. Right.

But,

but I get it.

I get, you know, part of me do

empathizing with AJ.

He's like in his prime, and you know,

he knows. He's like, Man, I know what y'all gonna do.
Y'all ain't gonna look at last year. I'm gonna look at this year because y'all gonna say, I got a year older.
I'm getting closer to 30.

And you know, when they get to 30, it's normally the cutoff. Yeah, you know how they play.
You know how they play.

You know how they play with you.

So,

AJ, all I just say is just, bro, just go out there and just keep playing. Hey, just keep fighting hard.
Just keep playing.

Just try to stay positive as you possibly can. You know, pick up hurts when you can.
Yeah. Hey, hey, hey, Philly fans, Philly fans, come on, man.

I love y'all, man.

Don't do the coach house like that, man. Don't do his house like that.
Don't do it like that.

Now, watch, watch Patula going to go out there. Man, Jaden going to throw for about 500 yards, man.

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Odell Beckham tweeted, presumably, I guess it said us. Boy, you can't say nothing in the world nowadays.
That's why I've been in my own lane, my own world, and put it the way.

People love to take ish out of context to rationalize a statement in their own head that makes sense to them. What a world.
Video came out today of Odell selling game-worn chrome heart cleats for 50K.

Yeah, hey, Unk, remember when you were telling me the story, Unk? And I said,

I thought he was giving perspective and context on how difficult it is to be able to manage money?

I didn't really think he was talking about himself. No, but Ocho, if you got, Ocho, what's difficult about managing 60 million liquid? Hold on.
Whoa, what's difficult?

Unknown, the number, the percentage of athletes, NBA, NFL, MLB, is damn near 90% now. So, I mean,

it's difficult.

That's why I thought, I thought, I thought, because the first thing when he said it and gave context and perspective on how difficult it is, I thought he was meaning in general, not specifically talking about himself.

That's all. But go ahead.

I get what he's saying. Yes, sir.
But you're spending, first of all, spending $4 million

in

yearly expenses. Yes, sir.
Your home, family home, X, Y, and Z.

Well, first of all, to spend that, you need to make at least $10 million. Because depending on where you are.

Now, if you're in a state that takes 50%, now if you're in Los Vegas, you're in Nevada, you're in Texas, you're in Florida. I think Ohio has no state income tax.
I think Arizona is like 2%.

So if you're in one of those states, so it's going to take about 10 million to do that, to have that kind of lifestyle. Now.

Now, what happens is, Ocho, is that you still try to maintain that lifestyle, Joe, when you're not bringing in 10 million and you're still spending that money kind of money going out.

That's why they go out. That's why you see guys go belly up, Ocho, is that you don't change your spending habits.
It's the same way if you're an athlete, you eat whatever you want, you work out.

Now, all of a sudden, you're not an athlete and you still eat whatever you want. Now, all of a sudden, DBs look like D-lineman.

That's what happens with money.

Hey, Unc, think about what you just said. Hey, Joe, think about what you just said, right? Think about what Unc just said real quick, right? Is

you're living a lifestyle when the money's coming in fast. Right.

You become accustomed to that lifestyle. That lifestyle actually becomes your image and it becomes an identity.
Yeah.

So once you stop playing, the transition to be able to stop and have the discipline to be able to cut it off,

to become

a minimalist, almost in a sense, it's almost impossible. It's hard.
Because you always want to maintain that lifestyle and that damage.

Because what's the first thing everybody that you're trying to goddamn impress don't say? Oh, he ain't got it no more.

Oh, he

first time on Joe, you ain't got a new car. Man, hey, he must be doing bad.
He ain't doing bad. Right.

Hey, you should see him with a new whip every other year.

Hey, hey, hey, Joe. Hey, Joe, and Uncle, one thing about it, boy, I learned early.
I learned early. I did not want to try to keep up with the Joneses.
I did not want to keep up.

Hey, Joe, and I, and Joe, I did it when I was making the bulk of my money, Joe. Joe, I came in the NFL already cheap as hell.
I didn't care about people making making fun of me.

I didn't care about certain types of women not wanting to date me because they know, yeah,

he ain't paying nothing. He's not, you know, you ain't getting nothing out of it.
That's that's okay. But I understand, I understand dealing with you is nothing but a liability anyway.
Right.

You know, I got the table, and the legs you got ain't gonna hold it up. Hello.
Hello. You know, so you understand that you play the game, Joe.
It's all a game.

And the better you learn to play the game,

the longer you will be able to be without.

It's okay. But

so many of us,

so many of us are so caught up in looking like we fucking got it. Like, I don't, everybody wants to be rich.
Everybody wants to look like they like like shit. No, that's not reality.

Social media has us fooled.

It has all of us fooled. They ain't got me fooled.

They ain't got me fooled because I know damn well I do okay. And I ain't living like that.
No, I ain't got it like that.

You know what's scary, Joe? Joe, this is the scary part. And this is for men and women.

When it comes to the people that try to maintain that lifestyle, and you know they don't make the kind of money to continue that lifestyle, especially if you don't play sports.

If you don't play sports and you and all this flashy shit, that means you're willing to do anything.

Anything. to maintain that image.
Well,

that in itself is dangerous, Joe. Yeah.

If you leave the sport and you get you a gig and you making money like Stephen A. You making money like Strayhand, you making money like

Tony Romo. You making money like Tom Brady.
Yeah.

Take off. Wait, hold on, hold on.
Now, what you're not going to do is,

I don't mean to put the people in our business, but if you're making money like Uncle Nocho, man. Shit.

Listen. Hey, boy.
Hey. Uncle

Money like that. Huh? Uh-uh.
Uncle Set Everybody up. Everybody good.
Mom, good. Sister good.
Everybody good. Listen, listen, uh, I'm gonna say I'm gonna say this one more time.

I guess I see the numbers at the end of each month. Yeah, just add us to that goddamn equation.

I'm gonna tell you what my grandma always told me,

huh? Speaking into exactly

speaking into existence, hello,

we do okay, OJ.

We do okay.

Hey, when you say okay, add three more wise to it.

Okay,

oh, oh,

I saw a guy today. I saw, I I read a quote.
Yes, I saw the guy was, he was basically saying, he says, as you become more famous and you become more well-off, relationships become more transactional.

Understand that.

Understand that. I'm learning that.
Do me a favor. Do me a favor.
Just in case the chat didn't hit you, because I got one for you. Say it one more time.
Say it one more time.

Make sure the chat hits you. The more famous you become and the more well-off you become, the relationships become more transactional.

know what transactional is. Yes.
I agree. I agree.

Let me dive a little deeper for you real quick, Uncle Joe. Even if you're not wealthy,

even if you're not making millions, even if you're making 100,000, or even if you're a thousandaire, you know,

you get paid every two weeks, the individual that you're dealing with is still dealing with you. based on the ability for you to provide and give them stability and a sense of peace.
Always.

Always. So it still aligns.

That same quote and analogy that Unc used, it still aligns regardless of how much you make based on your partner. Ask your partner and tell her to be truthful.
If you lost the opportunity to provide,

if she'll still be there. Ask your partner if you being able to make things convenient and the opportunity dealing with you didn't present it.

didn't present itself in a good manner if she would still be there and tell her to be honest with you.

And, you know, a lot of women will say, oh, I don't deal with nobody for no money.

It ain't about that. Like, come on now.
Let's stop.

And the funny thing about it is, you're always paying for who you're dealing with.

And the only thing, this is the only thing, Chad, I want you to do me a small favor.

Go to my Twitter and read my bio.

Now, there's a joke at the beginning, but I tell the truth towards the end. And I'm going to just leave that.
that. Just go to my Twitter and read my bio.
And the truth is sitting right there.

No matter what they try to tell you, that's what it all comes down to. No matter what they say.
Yeah.

But I just think the thing is, look, $100 million contract, I think everybody understands $100 million. Nobody's getting all $100 million of that.

You got to pay federal income tax. I don't give a damn what state you live in.
You've got to pay federal income tax. And you have something called a jock tax.

If you're a professional athlete and you go to certain states, you you got to pay for the money that you earned there.

If you go to certain states and you work, you have to pay money that you earned in that state.

So I think everybody is, nobody is under the assumption anymore that when they see 100 million, somebody actually got 100 million.

But to get 60, to get basically, if you, like I said, you live in a tax-free state and you only got to pay 30, 30, let's just say on the high end, you're paying 37% federal income tax.

That means of a million dollars, you get 637, you get 630,000.

So if you bring home, if you got 60 million liquid,

theoretically, Ocho,

you put that in a thing, a fund, you put that in a fund, you're going to get 5% to 8%. There'll be some years you get 10, 12%.

Yeah.

So even if you're just getting 5% on 60 million, that's $3 million a year. Man, if you can't live off $3 million a year, you got issues.
Yeah, really.

And I'm not saying like a Jay-Z or somebody that got full-time security and they got all these chefs and they got all these people. Obviously, it requires more than that.

But I'm saying for the average person, yeah, like myself, Joe, you, yeah, I mean, man, if you can't live on three billion, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, listen, I'm not average, I'm extraordinary.

I'm saying, I'm cheap as hell. No, I'm just bullshit, and I'm just, but I'm saying, people like us, because the average person is not gonna be in a situation to make that kind of money, right?

So, I'm not talking about, I'm talking about, look, if you got, if you make a, if you make a million dollars a year,

unless you got extraordinary expenses,

that should you should be good. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.
Get you a nice little, get you a nice little house payment, say, you know, five, somewhere between $5,000 and $7,500 a month.

Get you a nice car. You and your wife get a nice car.

She got one. You got one.
Kids.

If you make that kind of money, OJo, it's hard. You're going to probably be sending your kids to private school.

It just is what it is. There are very few people that make a million dollars a year and the kids go to public school.

I'm just being honest with you. Now, I know everybody says I'll send my my kids.
It's easy for you to say that when you're not in that situation.

But most people that make that kind of money, their kids go to private school.

And what we were trying to do, we didn't say it was, we were just trying to say how people go belly up.

Because when you have kids, multiple kids, and you live in certain states and you pay $5,000, $10,000, $15,000, $20,000 per child, you got three kids.

If you're paying that kind of money for the kids, guess what else you're paying for? Private school. Private schools cost you somewhere between $10,000 and 30,000 a year.
So now compound that. Yeah.

So you paying $100,000 a year. Ooh.

$100,000?

Yeah.

No, you paying $100,000. Yeah.
So if you pay $20,000, $20, $20,000 that's $60,000 a month

times 18 years. Hey.

Plus, let's just say, oh, children, you got three kids and they go to private school, and that's another 20,000. So that's another 60,000 a year times 18.

Well, they're not going to stay the same because private schools go up every year. So it might start out at 20.
And by the time they get to be seniors, that's probably be 30, 35.

So we're just trying to explain to people how it happens.

Is that that's why they say, hey, get you one. If I could do it over again, I'd have all my kids from one.
I'd be married, save myself a lot of money,

a lot of attorney fees also.

See, see,

that's why I'm thankful. Hey, Joe, sometimes they got to get up.
See, that's what I'm going to do.

Just this conversation in general, I'm going to get on my knees after the show, and I'm gonna thank god i'm gonna thank god because unknown just ran off them goddamn numbers right and that's just and you think joe i i got eight joe i got eight joe and i ain't listen

hey hold on listen to me this this let me tell you what i'm joe let me tell you what i'm grateful though joe unk just ran off them numbers right boy i ain't never seen it never had to do nothing like that joe you know no private school none of your kids went to private schools none of that nah nah nah nah joe joe i my my my kids needed different time now though oh joe yeah yeah my my kid needed carry different time yeah even even even even now ocho what you was paying you probably have to double that even just because the cost of living is higher you're talking about you talking about 15 18 20 years ago

so you know what the cost is right now yeah so obviously the cost of living has gone up so is the cost of raising a child has gone up

hey hey Joe hey some of them numbers Unc was ripping off too, you know, them people, them the type of people, you know, having kids by certain people, it ain't really about the child in the first place.

Yeah,

that's what they come on now.

Come on, now, yeah, can you add? Can you imagine having to pay for a child $50,000 a month?

$100,000 a month, yeah, two years old, what the hell? What are we doing? Uh-huh,

boy, the fact that they that they grant that to some people, oh, yeah, absolutely, because it's based off me, it's based off me,

it's mind-boggling. I'm like, man, how

somebody needs 30, 40, 50K a month for a child, bro?

I know a guy that was paying in the early 2000s was playing $14,000 a month. I know, yeah, I know a few cats.

Who paying more than that? $10,000 a month.

I know a dude playing $17,000 a month, $22,000 a month. I'm like, man.

But that's $168,000 a year.

It's where you file it too, though. You know where

they have them kids at. Now, there are some states that the map is capped.
You can only get X amount. You might only get $3,500.
You only get $5,000.

And then some states, they base it on how much the father makes.

But I'm saying. And they make you responsible for the private tuition because they say if the child should be afforded a life that if the child was with you, that the child wouldn't enjoy without you.

Absolutely. Now, I ain't telling you what somebody told me.
I'm telling you. Now, see, y'all can talk about a whole lot.
Don't know what he's talking about? Yeah. Bull drive.
Yeah.

I'm with you when you're right. Hey.
Hey, boy, that's a.

I'm glad. I'm glad, boy, those I had kids from, boy, they wasn't like that, man.

Yeah, Joe, I'm Joe. I'm getting on my knee.
I just, just, just, it make me cringe hearing the numbers that Uncle wrote me off his day.

And also,

I'm present, Joe.

And that's my thing, Uncle Ocho. It's like, these numbers I'm telling y'all, I done heard about cats paying.
Man, they almost got custody of their kids, and they still paying

this amount. Absolutely.
You get the kids during the summer, you get the kids for one or two months. Guess what? You still got to send that same money.

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oh yo we got to come back to this we got to welcome the game he led a game winning drive he was 19 of 33 172 yards a touchdown in a 27 20 and a 27 24 victory over the falcons added another 44 yards on the ground and a score here he is tyro the best dressed man in the nfl here he is ladies and gentlemen tyrod taylor tt what's going on

Are you muted?

What's happening? What's happening? What's up, boy? We good, man. How you do? Congratulations on the big time,

appreciate it.

Bro, tell us what happened. Okay, you back the pants.
They got you. They grabbed you by the sleeve.
You know, you can't wear no loose sleeve like that. They got cold out there, man.

Hey, you like, hey, I'm gonna come up out this sleeve. Hey, you can have a sleeve, but I'm gone.
Facts, facts.

Nah, it was a crazy play. Leonard Floyd, obviously, great reach.

But yeah, just try to make a play. Obviously, can't take a sec.
On a naked, he did a great job of

redirecting and getting his hand on me. But at the same time, I can't go down.
So get out of there. I took a shot on that play, but definitely couldn't take the sec.
Get the ball out of my ass.

Yeah, most definitely. What is that feeling like, T-Man? Obviously, things haven't been going that well for the Jets.

You get opportunity to be at the helm, to be that leader, to be that quarterback of that group, despite things going well, everyone talking trash on the outside what does it feel like to get a win like that today it felt amazing um

one thing i'll say about our team all season um we've kind of ignored the the outside noise um and we haven't blinked uh we've been in just about every game that we played uh but we just haven't consistently put something together uh in all three phases and i think today we was able to do that um so definitely proud of the locker room um the guys we've been through a ton whether it's been injuries trades here and there um on the wrong sides of certain games.

But

yeah, nobody blinked. And it was good to see the outcome the way it did.
Nick Falk hit a great field goal to at the end to seal the deal. And it just was a great field overall.
Yeah.

Tyrod, how did, look, you came in. Obviously, they brought Justin Phills in to be a start, to be the starter.
And you've been a backup since. You basically, I mean, you had enough.

You did a great job in Buffalo. People don't realize before Josh Allen, you were the last team to take, you were the last quarterback to take Buffalo to the playoffs.

You get to the Chargers. You're about to start.
You have a rib injury in preseason. You're going to get an injection.

They went a little bit too far in and you get a punching lung. And then you're just like, man, am I ever going to get an opportunity to start again? And you get your opportunity.

But, you know, you came there kind of to mentor Justin Fields. And if your number is called, be ready.

Is that difficult understanding that this young man, like, damn, he just can't seem to catch a break, but I still got to do my damn job. It's definitely tough.

Um, but at the same time, I think that's just part of being a pro. Um, I tell guys all the time I was fortunate when I got drafted to Baltimore to walk into a locker room with so many veteran guys.

You had Anquan, you had Ed Reed, you had Ray Lewis, uh, Terrell Silver, Saloti Love, even Joe

was, I mean, a few years in at the time. Um, and those guys took me under their wings and just told me how to be a pro, how to attack the day each and every day.

And I think that that ultimately rubbed off on me into into how i approach my day-to-day um

and 15 years later being able to walk into a building like you say on one hand mentoring and and and teaching the guys but at the same time being mentally and physically prepared to go out and and and lead if if if called upon

damn tyrod i didn't realize it's been 15. so you got you tyrod say i'm gonna get 20.
what the hell What the hell?

I mean, have you set a goal? Have you said, is there a setting of years or you just want to, because it's not like you got a whole lot of rare and deal on you.

I never said years. I always said as long as I'm enjoying the game, I'm not playing through anything,

like through an injury.

I enjoy the preparation of a season.

Yeah, it's still fun. It's still like I'm begging my mama to take me out to the practice field when I was five years old.
So yeah, I never said a year on it. That's dope.
And you know what?

I wanted to ask, you know, I'm going to go inside the locker room a little bit and

talk about the team that I'm around and what Aaron Glenn has been able to tell his players.

When things aren't going well, you're losing back-to-back games, most of the games being close games where you guys could have won, but weren't able to put up

do enough consistently offensively. How did he get the players not to, how did he not lose a locker room? Because most of the time I've been

on many,

many. you know uh losing seasons you know during my team he played in cincinnati tyrodam don't do that that's my bad my bad older That's I just want to know.

What did Amber say to make sure he didn't lose the locker room and have players giving up out there? The main thing is just keeping our standard and our brand of football the same.

Obviously, this is a results business game and you want to win week in and week out.

But when you're shifting a culture and the guys are so young in the locker room, it's about creating a standard first. And that's about how you practice

and learning how to win. A lot of teams in this league don't know how to

win.

And I would say Coach Glenn has done a great job over the course of this year of just keeping the main thing, the main thing, not necessarily being results-based, but coming in and asking a certain standard of us day in and day out.

And guys have responded well. We got a lot of respect for Coach Glenn, and he's a great leader for us.

Tyrod, look, the last game you played, I think it was a Thursday night game. And Mitch had some tough drops.
He had a couple of plays that he could have made that might have,

and AG spoke about it after the game, but you didn't seem to have a problem

because he made a big catch, like a 50-something yard or a touchdown. He split the seam, and you felt very comfortable.
What did you tell him?

Because he had to be down on himself because he had kind of fell out of favor in the Colts, and he was a part of the package that sent Sauce to Indy. He came over to you guys.

What did you say, like, to keep his spirits up to have him to come out and have a game like you were doing?

Yeah, AD is a guy that he knows the type of talent that he has, um, and he wants to get it right. I mean, he's at the facility to eight o'clock on the drugs,

catching off the wall. He's always working on his craft.
So when you see a guy that put that type of work in, he's intentional about the things he does.

And I mean, everyone has a bad game or off game here and there.

But that kid is special and looking forward to him being a big part of this offense moving forward.

You guys are three and nine.

I don't know if there's a chance that you can sneak into the playoffs, but how do you stay so positive, Tyrod? Because

you keep mentioning being professional. The process is the process.
The standard is the standard. And there's an expectation that as a professional, you must be a pro.

Professional, you're an NFL player. A pro is how you go about doing your business on a daily basis, even when things aren't going to be.
Yeah, the main thing for us is just staying, like I said,

sticking to...

Our process day to day, taking it one game at a time at three and nine, not necessarily looking at what the rest of the season looks like.

Focus on going out and having a great Wednesday this week and being one-oh this week, not trying to get five in a row. It starts with one game.
You can't get five in a row

without starting with the first game. So for us, it's about ignoring the noise.
And I think we have a good locker room and the type of guys that can do so.

And I mean, at the end of the season, look up and see what we've done. Yeah, I like it.

I mean, they got the Dolphins coming up. You know, got the Dolphins coming up.

Yeah, Tyrod said, we got them.

We got to start. He said, you can't get the five in a row until we got the first one.
So now we got to get the two in a row. So we get the two in a row.
We go. Hey, we see.
Where's that game?

They play out there in New York or New Jersey. One on.
Oh, yeah. Hey, hey, hey.
You know, dolphins don't like cold water. They don't like the cold.
Tyrod. They don't like the cold.

Hold on. They like cold water.
They don't like cold weather.

Hey,

no dolphins in no cold weather or no cold weather.

Because if the cold weather, the water's cold. Okay.
They're mammals.

My boy. Last I chick, they ain't got no fur.
And they got no fur, but they're always in cold water.

No, they're not.

Okay, we'll argue about that later.

We'll argue about that later. Tyrod, thanks for joining us, man.

Congratulations on a great win, man. Great game-winning drive

to get that dub. Jets moved to three or nine thanks to a 27-24 victory over the Atlanta Falcons.
Man, congratulations. Hey, get your boy a ticket to the

the Met Gala.

Put a word in for the word in for it. That's all they're put a word.
So, how are you gonna ask him for a ticket to the Met Gala? And we could, we supposed to be a team.

What, what, what's once they say, get me the call, I'm gonna say, Could I get a plus one? No, you're supposed to say that off jump, man. Hey, get one for me and me and my boy.

Oh, you oh, Joe, I can't see. If I say both of us, you're gonna want to bring somebody, and I gotta bring you.
So, that's you, my plus one. I ain't gonna bring nobody, huh?

You're not even that's why I'm saying you're my plus one. Because I'm not even in the fashion like me and me and me and all ty

you're not even in the fashion like that

you give me my 5900 i would be i give me some chrome heart something hey hey ty what can i get for 5900 from chrome heart nothing

yeah

yeah okay yeah you're right i ain't in the fashion like that and that's all i could get i ain't in the fashion tyro congratulations man give some rest good luck the rest of the season stay healthy and we'll talk to you soon

love man love

Jerry Judy didn't exactly calm things down over the week when asked by the media about the Shadur sideline exchange. In fact, Cleveland is up in arms over him saying it's the media's fault.

He's picking fights with reporters and his own Browns teammates. Let's take a listen, Ocho, to what he had to say.
Probably taught him off camera. You feel me?

That's probably what I would have done differently. You know,

of course, I'm going to speak on my mind and tell me what, and say what I need, what I see out there.

But, you know,

it is what it is. Football and man, me and Shada are good.

You know, stuff like that happens. You know, y'all going to make it bigger than what it is, you know, because of the media.
You know, that's what y'all feed off of negativity.

You know, but it is what it is. This is the life you live.
So,

you know, we move on from it.

And I live a real life. you know, so what happened around in this locker room, you know, just real, not what's going on on social media and everything.
So me and Shada good, everything good, man.

We gravey over here.

Everything is magnified. Everything is magnified, especially when you're losing.
Obviously, all the turmoil, all the questions, all the, all the.

Nor that, because everything was magnified. Was it magnified? Because, what about the Eagles? Oh,

it was magnified.

And

their situation is magnified because even though they were winning during that time, you had issues.

You had, you know, certain people, individuals coming out, you know having their displeasures you know posting stuff on social media so it created it created a firestorm so it gave the media something to talk about over there over there excuse me over there in cleveland obviously the interaction between judy the animated interaction between judy and goddamn sanders on the sideline is something not not not new not new but it's new it's new to them It's new to them.

Two players that are not on the same page and their way of communicating. It wasn't the right way to communicate.

it wasn't the right way now if they were winning if they were winning and they were they were they were they were playing well all season long oh it wouldn't be no problems something that they just sweep up sweep right up under the rug but listen should do her second start

two of them they going at on the sideline oh we got a

story now

yeah come talk to me baby

why we why he got to be the media the media job is to report what he sees absolutely you got these hips you got these demonstrative demonstrative antics. What do you think they think?

And I told you, it could have been nothing, Ocho, but when you get animated like this

and all Shadur was sitting down and then all of a sudden Shadur stands up and says, what do you think? Absolutely. Hey, can I tell you something?

Just say, look, guys, yeah, we could have had, I could have handled that situation better. I'm the vet in this situation.
I should have handled that situation a lot better than what I did.

I saw something one way. He saw it another way.
Whatever differences we had, that could have been resolved behind closed doors.

I was always conscious of that, OJo, because I know, you know, I'm demonstrative, because I already know.

So now you start yelling, I start yelling, you say something, and the one thing I don't want to ever want to go across a bridge that I can't go back across.

You say something in the heat of the moment,

you know, drunk kids and angry people will tell you how they truly feel about you. So you have to be careful when you're angry about what you say.

So I was always conscious of that. If I had something to say to the quarterback, be it John, be it Grease, be it Tony Banks, Trent,

Drake Plumber, I always like, man, bro, this is what I was thinking.

And so forth and so on. But by the same token, I expected them to, you know, to give me that kind of grace also.
Because I promise you, you show me up, you're not going to like my response now.

Because if you bring it to me, I got to give it back to you plus if it didn't handle it. Because I got to make sure you get it.
Because

I don't want anybody to say, well, I didn't get what you was. Yeah, you got this here.

So that's why I was always conscious, knowing the cameras was around, even not as many cameras as they have now, Ocho. But I understood.
People in the stands, you getting animated. They get animated.

Ain't nothing going on. I told you.
I told you it happened to me one time.

Yeah, just like that. But

mine was in the field of play.

We Monday night football.

We're playing the stealers. I'm already frustrated because they're not going to give me the ball.
Everything they're doing, Ike right in front of me, safety over top.

So you already know I'm frustrated. So the ball, when I do get the balls, I mean, the balls that do come to me, it's going to be very few.

And the one, boy, I'm open. I beat the double team.
The ball is not supposed to come to me. I told Carson on this, just give me a shot.
I'm going to work these boys. And Unk, he overthrew.

He overshot it a little bit. And lo and behold, you know, the camera already on me.
Man,

you know, I already keep one chin strap already unbuckled. Man, I snap the other when I'm mad going back to the huddle.
Carson met me.

Carson met me halfway. Before you got off the body, I got my feet off the field.
If you ever motherfucking show me up like that again, I won't throw you another motherfucker ball the rest of the game.

Just like that.

Not playing no games. Well, I ain't say nothing the rest of the game.

I ain't say nothing to the rest of the game because I understood who had the control and being able to get that ball to me.

Yeah, right. One time.
It took me one time.

Never had an issue again.

Because I know how I am, Ocho.

Look, I understand. His job isn't.
No, it's not.

And not.

But I'm like, man,

I wanted to say some stuff.

But nah,

I'm not going to show him up because you know what happens? You show the guy up, he throws it to you, you drop it. The ball goes through your hands, then it gets picked.

Now everybody looking at you sideways. You say you wanted it.
He threw it to you, you threw it back at him. Or you let, hey, you gave it to the other guy.

I was always mindful of that, OJ.

I really am. And even in the, I remember in college, I used to like, just throw it, just throw it out there.

And I was just like, Coach Dave would grab me and say, son, I said, Coach, we go over this every day in practice. They can't guard me.

That's all I'm saying. Coach, just give me a chance.
Just put it up.

But

I just like, like I said,

everybody is not

as versed as dealing with the media because you understand, Ocho.

It's a skill to that, huh?

It is, Ocho. I was very, very fortunate because I remember in college, I'm standing in front of the mirror.
I'm talking to myself. They asked me a question.
I had a good game.

This is how I'm going to respond. This is how I'm asking.
If I had a bad game, I had a couple of drops. I missed some assignments.

This is how I'm going to do it. So by the time I got there, I'm like, okay.

You know, I'm looking at other guys.

I see Steve Atwater how he talk I see Dennis Smith how he talks I hang around a little while and watch L Way see how he talked to the media I'm like okay okay a little bit of okay

try to stay level try to stay you know even keel

not get not get you know too disappointed you know obviously yeah sometimes I'm not gonna have a I'm not gonna have a game I'm gonna have a drop or two in a in a tough spot but just trying to just like just to be level just to be understanding they got a job to do I understand we all have jobs to do even though I didn't do my job to the best of my ability, that doesn't excuse me from not helping you do your job.

I always understood that, Ocho. And I tried to be professional, always tried to be professional

in that aspect of it. But it's not easy when you're not playing well.

And

people are like, well,

the guy might have played better if such and such would have played better.

Yeah, I don't know. Yeah.

It's just, it's, it's, but social media is hard now, Ocho. It had been, you you know, I don't know.

Would I have had fun with social media? Yeah, I probably would have took some shots at some guys I'm playing against. Absolutely.
Because that's just my nature.

I couldn't help it. Let me see.
You know what's funny is

I didn't need social media. I use the media to take my shots.

But we have to understand, see, you and I were a little different.

So my comparison as far as taking shots.

I would use a comparison with me and Steve Smith Sr.

Steve Smith Sr., he taking shots and he meant that.

like he meant every word he said if he's talking about somebody now my taking shots for sure taking shots and sending gifts to the secondary as a whole you already know it's entertainment you already know it's entertainment is is more of an invitation as to

the competition and making sure boy you better be on your on your p's and q's come sunday Better be on your better behavior. Because I listen, I didn't already gave you bulletin board material.

Now it's up to you to be able to stop it.

That's all. I mean, but oh man um

well if i could if i could do it again i'd do it the same way and add some more to it boy hey i didn't i done came up with some great ideas watching today's game that i wish i was still playing i can go back and implement it then

yeah man spitty man spitty man spitty i've been watching spitty because i was I played a couple years.

Like I said, my last year in Baltimore, I went to the Pro Bowl, which was his first year, which was 2001. Smitty's first year was 2001.

And and um um he was at the pro bowl he was at the pro bowl as a return of that year so that was my really first introduction to him and you know uh he was always he was always he was all he's been always cool to me he's always been respectful he's always been great um

but man just watching him play

He angry. He played like he's 6'5.

He's literally angry. Now, he'll catch a touchdown.
And if it means that after I catch this touchdown and celebrate, I got to whip your ass in the corner of the end, though, I'll do that too.

If I got to fight you in the middle of the feet, hey man, no, he's not.

You have to understand, hey, chat, I don't know if y'all know, does the chat know that Steve and I played at Santa Monica Junior College in LA. We played on the same team.

So what the people with the world saw once he got to the NFL, hell, I saw that in 1997 and 1998 in LA.

He was the exact same way.

He was a pit bull. He was angry.
Nobody might not have pissed him off, but his style of play, it was like somebody did something wrong to him. Like somebody pissed him off.

Yeah. And he said, you know, he's dealing with some issues and, you know, he's gotten counseling and he got counseling, got better, but he's a lot better now.

Man, Smitty used to be like, like, Smitty, damn.

All the time, all the time you on.

Hey, listen, he whooping teammates. He whipping his teammates.
He whooping the other team. You know, it don't matter who it is.
Yeah.

He like, sharp, man,

don't play with me.

Hey, when he says don't play with him and leave that alone,

he mean that now.

Don't let that size fool you.

Everybody be talking, they talk reckless now.

He's still, hey, he's still on that type of time now. Absolutely.

He's still on that type of time.

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