Nightcap - Hour 1: LeBron addresses Stephen A. Smith on Pat McAfee; Damian Lillard out with a blood clot; Lakers challenging games

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Speaker 2 For the first time, he entered a game in the fourth quarter where he hadn't scored a field goal. He has three points.
If I'm not mistaken, I think he only had two points at the half. At the half.

Speaker 2 And he has a streak 18 years. He scored at least 10 points in every game for the last 18 years.
It's the longest consecutive streak of double-digit games in NBA history.

Speaker 2 And he kept the streak alive because he was sensational. I think he scored 12 points in the fourth quarter, but none bigger than the tip in at the buzzer to give them the win.

Speaker 2 The Lakers beat the Pacers 120 to 119. Lakers had a 17-point lead.
They squandered that again. Ocho.
Hey, what quarter, huh? What quarter? Third, third. Every time.

Speaker 2 They gave up 37 points in the third quarter. Remember the other night, they gave up 34 points in the third quarter.
And it looked like they scored

Speaker 2 a little over 60 points

Speaker 2 in the second half. And that'll get you beat.
And the Lakers are going to have to find out until it's important to them to take care of the basketball, to play better defense.

Speaker 2 They're going to find themselves in these kinds of games

Speaker 2 because they allow teams to hang around because they turn the ball over. When they can stretch and lead to 20, 22, 23.

Speaker 2 they turn the ball over in a couple quick threes and now all of a sudden a 17 point game is down under 10. But when it mattered the most, and that's what good players, that's what great players do.

Speaker 2 They can play bad, no matter the sport or joke. They can play bad for a particular period of time.
But when they absolutely have to have it, they can dig down.

Speaker 2 Now, a lot of times, you and I both played the game of football. Sometimes when things are not going our way, we'll allow it to creep in our game, creep into our minds, it'll affect our overall play.

Speaker 2 Yes, sir. I thought he rebounded the ball extremely well.
He had 13 rebounds. He led the Lakers in rebounds.
He did a great job of facilitating, considering Luca is the primary ball handler now.

Speaker 2 Let him in assist with seven.

Speaker 2 But when he needed it, he dug down in the fourth quarter. He got it going.
Yeah, but half primarily had the ball in his hand while Luca was on the bench getting his rest to start the fourth.

Speaker 2 He got his double digits and then he turned it back over to Luca and Luca got hot again down the stretch. I think Luca ended up with 34 points.

Speaker 2 AR, Austin Reeves had 24, but it was LeBron at the end of the ball game that got the tip in at the buzzer because this would have been heartbreaking. This would have been a gut rate.

Speaker 2 Listen, they on the 03, they were on the 0-3 scared. They're the 0-3 scared for one, like you said earlier.

Speaker 2 They can play in stretches in the game and get a lead, but because of lack of defense and always being effing beating transition, being lazy, turning the ball over, they allow teams to come back in.

Speaker 2 Team that they should be dominating. Obviously, the game of basketball is about to get a game of runs, but still, you're playing the Pacers.

Speaker 2 I'm not saying the Pacers are horribly sorry, but when it comes to the Lakers, if you're serious about not only making the playoffs or keeping the seed that you're in, this is a game that you're supposed to go in and dominate quarter by quarter.

Speaker 2 But yet again, in the third quarter,

Speaker 2 after having the lead they had, they almost squandered that. And then they did because the Pacers ended up taking the lead, don't you? Yeah, they squandered the lead.
The Pacers took the lead.

Speaker 2 And then, Roy,

Speaker 2 I don't want to butcher his last name. Roy, Rui, Rui, Rui Hachimura.
right brother brother hachimura hakatana hit the two threes towards the end of the game

Speaker 2 and lebron had to come through in a magical moment and the game they should have lost honestly yeah honestly but he owed them hey he owed them that one lebron owed him that he know he's in the locker room say hey knowing lebron yeah probably locker room guy like hey that was a big win but i owe y'all oh yeah i owe you for the oh for that first half for the game because i think what was he ended up four 12.

Speaker 2 yeah yeah so he was 311 for before that tip in ocho so he ends up going four of 12 and he's he knows all seven from the three he knows he didn't his overall game but the thing is about a great player you find other ways to impact the game look at his defensive rebounding look i mean look at his rebounding look at his assist uh his uh his assist let him in assist let him in rebounds but that's what great players do they find ways to impact the game even though he wasn't scoring a lot of times a score when he's not scoring ojo he mopes he pops and all of a sudden it impacts other areas of the game.

Speaker 2 Can you impact the game when you're not doing what you normally do to impact the game?

Speaker 2 Find whether other ways to influence the game rebound the basketball, cannot facilitate, cannot play defense, right? Cannot draw a charge or things of that nature.

Speaker 2 And I was very happy to see LeBron and pull it out. Had a lot going on today.
Luca, in the month of March, 31.4 points a game, eight and a half rebounds, 8.6 assists, 43 points.

Speaker 2 So basically, 44% from the three-point line right on 11 uh on a um on 11 uh uh attempts per game he's on pace to be the youngest laker to average 30 points in a single month since kobe in 2003.

Speaker 2 nah hey

Speaker 2 i like the laker chance

Speaker 2 i love all the mantras all the quotes of lakers in five But I honestly think they need one more piece.

Speaker 2 As great as Hakatana. I can't get it.
As great as great as hakatana your ruri is playing yeah they need they they they need something else huh another another score

Speaker 2 lebron has an off night then luca gives you what he does tonight he was kind of off and on but he still ended up with 34.

Speaker 2 but i think if they just had one more person they give him just a little bit more i know reeves is good i know rui can we can score as well they just need one more one more piece of that puzzle and that's what they were hoping for what they were hoping for that alex Lynn could give them something.

Speaker 2 Now, I don't know what they've seen from Alex Lynn since he's been in the league. And you don't like Buddy, man.

Speaker 2 It's not about like or dislike, Ocho. I mean, I think the chatter would agree.
They've watched him at many different stops. I think he's been in Washington.
I think he's been with the

Speaker 2 Sun. He's been different places.
He's what he is.

Speaker 2 Yeah. He's what he is.
Right. I don't care.
You take a grizzly bear out of the forest,

Speaker 2 whether he in Alaska or he's in Canada or he's in, it does not matter. You take him out of that and you put him in a different environment.
He's still a grizzly bear. Okay, yeah.

Speaker 2 His instincts do not go away. Right.
So in other words, if he's sorry over here, what do you expect him to be over there? He'd be that.

Speaker 2 I mean, it's not like he was good at one point in time, Ocho, and you say, you know what? Hopefully he can summon that up again. But he has not been good at any stop.
He's tall.

Speaker 2 Now, a coaching is calling his name.

Speaker 2 It is what it is. And I'm just being factual.
They're not anybody else out there that can help him.

Speaker 2 And the problem is, is that when Jackson Hayes goes to the bench, they're a small team.

Speaker 2 They don't have another big.

Speaker 2 LeBron got to go to the five. LeBron has to go to the five.
Or you bring in Dorian Phineas Smith and he has to play the flat five. Right.
They're a very, very small team.

Speaker 2 And that's the problem that you have because you're really not playing Jackson hayes more than 25 minutes a night right

Speaker 2 and he's a guy and the thing that i love i mean you love and you hate is that you don't run plays for jackson hayes he's a lob guy he gets it off the rim he gives you uh second chance uh opportunities but he's not a guy that you can run to the part and say hey he's gonna put a put his back to the basket throw it to a hand right and he's gonna do something with that's not what he is that's not who he is right now i got a question now now listen you know my my knowledge of the game of basketball is a little limited i'm getting better at it though Now, listen, if they got to go small, if they got to go small, shouldn't the Lakers at times, depending on who it is,

Speaker 2 be at an advantage when it comes to, you know, playing small and having to transition up and down the court, as opposed to, you know.

Speaker 2 Yeah, if the other team goes small, but what happens when they got Jokic out there? What do you do then?

Speaker 2 And that's the problem. Okay, let's just say you played, you played Memphis.
Right. Memphis got Zach Eady, who's 7-3.
three yeah he just so even if he's not enough

Speaker 2 huh he's just clogging up space he he he he is he's not advantageous on offense at all or am i wrong he's gonna give you he's gonna give you extra possession because of rebounding okay

Speaker 2 and without rebounding there are no rings without rebounding okay and that's that's the problem that the lakers are gonna have even when lebron goes lebron has an off mat you still have ar and luca that can carry the load if luca is struggling lebron and ar can str can carry the load.

Speaker 2 If AR is struggling, Luca and LeBron can still carry the load. So, who will he? Look, you got three guys that can score.

Speaker 2 AR is giving you like 20 a night. LeBron is giving you 25.
Luca is giving you 30. Right.
Okay, that's fine. One of those guys struggling, the other guys can take over.

Speaker 2 Need a little bit better production consistently from the bench.

Speaker 2 You got some good minutes tonight, but

Speaker 2 JJ is just going to have to trust Dalton Connect.

Speaker 2 I think the thing is that he loses his weight sometime on the defensive end. And being around JJ, the little bit I had, working with him at ESPN, he doesn't like that.

Speaker 2 He likes students of the game.

Speaker 2 He likes smart guys. Smart guys you can win with, even if they're not the most talented.
Supremely talented guys that aren't bad, that doesn't have basketball IQ, get your ass beat.

Speaker 2 And that frustrates JJ because JJ wasn't the most talented, although he was a great player in college and a really good player in the NBA.

Speaker 2 he was very smart yeah he knew where he was supposed to be when he was supposed to be there

Speaker 2 boom so he didn't listen he did all the small things right very yes yes very disciplined and when you're not what you lack

Speaker 2 athletic oh cho you're not supremely athletic you're not six eight six nine you gotta do everything right or you don't have handles like a kyrie you're not quick

Speaker 2 so what other way can i find a way to get on the court stay on the court, and not cost my team?

Speaker 2 And if you look at it, OT, I think there's 10 games left, and you look at three through eight, there's only four games difference.

Speaker 2 There's only four games difference. You're basically

Speaker 2 four games back.

Speaker 2 Denver Nuggets have the same win-loss record as the Lakers, and they're in the three seed. Lakers are four.

Speaker 2 Memphis is five. All of them have 28 losses.
And then you got the Clippers, Golden State with 31 losses, which are three games back. And you got Minnesota at 32 losses

Speaker 2 at a game back of them. So four games separate three through eight, and there's 10 games to go.
Right.

Speaker 2 10 games in a row. Excuse me, 10 games to go.
So the rubber got to beat the roll. Something got to give.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 What's the highest seed? Or what do you think is preferable for you as a Laker fan for them? That would be the same thing.

Speaker 2 What would be easier for them, best case scenario, to be able to get out of the first round or at least have a chance getting to the second round. Have home court advantage.

Speaker 2 So you need to be you need to be one through four to have home court advantage. Okay, they're not going to get the one seed because

Speaker 2 OKC has run away with that, right? So the one seed is already entered in stones. Now,

Speaker 2 could they get the two seed? Yeah, that's a possibility.

Speaker 2 They got the Rockets on the schedule. They need to close out this road game strong and then go home and close out that homestead strong.

Speaker 2 I could see them three or four right uh

Speaker 2 three or four so that means that they if everything remains the same that means they get memphis in the first round oh what you what you never would play what you like what you like about that matchup i love that

Speaker 2 i hey just stay away from okc we need to get some rhythm before before we see okayc we need some pressure to mount ain't no pressure in the first round they need pressure so you're saying memphis ain't no pressure no not for the lakers i like i like that matchup against memphis but you know you know who memphis got over there?

Speaker 2 Yeah, Ja.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 I give you, I give you Ja. I'll give you a Luca.
Who you taking?

Speaker 2 Okay.

Speaker 2 I give you Ja. I'll give you LeBron.
Who you taking?

Speaker 2 Okay. Okay.

Speaker 2 No, now they got Jaron Jackson, who's a DPOY candidate who made the all-star game. Bane has played well in the absence.
Jaw is nursing a hamstring or something, but he's been up and down.

Speaker 2 Now, when he's been in,

Speaker 2 oh, he's jaw i mean he's the second pick in the jaff he's been an all-star so you know what he can do right i mean nobody's surprised i mean just to actually go to a game and watch him and to watch the way he elevate and the way he can contort his body he's special yeah he's a guy that you know i pay my good money to go see because that's what he is i look i basically if i pay him my money to come see him

Speaker 2 I ain't paying my money to come see you. I don't give a damn how many points you average.
You're not interested.

Speaker 2 That got nothing to do with me ja's interesting yeah because he can finish above the rim got a nice little float game mid-range shot he's gotten better at the shooting the set three

Speaker 2 but

Speaker 2 he's fun he's fun to watch i like that matchup do i think they can beat anybody yes in seven games absolutely because luca and lebron can both take over game and give you 40.

Speaker 2 So those two guys, but the thing is, Hocho, in the playoffs, your three best guys need to be really good. Two of the three need to be great.
Right. Damn near every single night.

Speaker 2 Now, if I'm getting 80 points, 60, if I'm getting 65 to 80 points for my big three,

Speaker 2 I'm going to need the other six guys

Speaker 2 because you're not going to go that deep. Playoff start, you might go nine.
As you go further, you reduce that. But I'm going to need those other nine guys.

Speaker 2 If those three guys give me eight, I'm going to need those other guys to give me 35.

Speaker 2 right and they're gonna have to get a little bit more production from the bench um gabe binson is shooting the ball a little better pheny smith is doing a little better but they got to make a decision what are we going to do with dawn connect because he can shoot the three but he gets lost he gets lost on defense and he gives up easy buckets

Speaker 2 and i don't know what's

Speaker 2 what something is being lost in translation oh joe he's a liability well all of them look Luke ain't playing no defense.

Speaker 2 Austin Reed, bless his heart, ain't playing defense. LeBron can't sit in the chair no no more.
LeBron is mainly a help side defender. He does use his body really well.
Guys try to go around him.

Speaker 2 He'll body him up because that's a big man to try to move. And so he slows him down like that.
But LeBron can't sit in the chair and no one expects him to, Ojo. He's 40.

Speaker 2 What guy you know played defense at 40? Kobe didn't. Jordan, I'm talking about historically great players.

Speaker 2 Even Pippin, that Pippin that didn't play till he was 40, he couldn't slide those feet like he could when he was in his prime.

Speaker 2 We understand that because you and I talked about it the other night. The lateral quickness is what

Speaker 2 you lose as we start to age. Oh, yeah.
So, with that being said, Ocho, I like the Lakers. I believe they can beat anybody in the Western Conference.
Yeah, it'll be a struggle. Uh, uh, but OKC

Speaker 2 hold on, you see that five.

Speaker 2 We still, we, we still, we still win it in five.

Speaker 2 uh

Speaker 2 so you want to hold up going to the next uh topic pash

Speaker 2 okay

Speaker 2 um

Speaker 2 oh joe yo i don't know if it was this morning or it was taped yesterday i'm thinking this morning what happened lebron went on the pat mcafee show yeah yeah

Speaker 2 he had a lot to say today yeah hey that was that was out of character him i've never seen him in that setting before and actually just talking freely like that yeah

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 we're going to get, we're going to get to that

Speaker 2 in just a second

Speaker 2 while we wait for TJ to connect. But the Lakers, I'm looking at the Clippers.

Speaker 2 I think the thing is, Ocho, you're trying to stay out of seven through 10 because you don't want to play any more games than you have to. You want rest.
And it won't start until the

Speaker 2 seven, eight, nine, 10 is determined to play and who's going to be seven, who's going to be eight

Speaker 2 to that determined. So you need rest.
LeBron James is 40. He's been playing.
He played what, 38, 39 minutes tonight. So he's going to need rest.

Speaker 2 Any bumps and bruises, you want to try to get those guys as healthy as you possibly can. Now, the best thing about the playoffs, you don't play every other, you don't play in back-to-back.

Speaker 2 I mean, the first game you play, and then you might have a couple of days off, and then you get into the routine, you play it every other day.

Speaker 2 Okay, you can live with that, but you try to get LeBron, LeBron's going to need as much rest as he possibly can because he is 40. Here's what it is.
And so

Speaker 2 once they determine who they're going to, once they are, if they can secure one of these top six scenes, you avoid the play-in, you get an opportunity to get a couple of days of rest, and then hey, for the marvelous for all the game.

Speaker 2 Oh, Joe. Now, LeBron James went on the Pat McAfee show today, nearly three weeks after confronting Stephen A.
at a basketball game.

Speaker 2 LeBron broke his silence on the incidence, referring to the fallout as a Taylor Swift tour run for Stephen A. The beef started,

Speaker 2 excuse me, over comments Stephen A. made regarding Bronnie.
I initially wasn't going to say anything. I wasn't going to talk about it.
I didn't. We didn't talk about it.

Speaker 2 Y'all didn't hear anything from me for about this for three weeks ago, but now LeBron just went on P-Mac and we have to talk about it.

Speaker 2 Now, LeBron said he hasn't been too happy with how Stephen A has reacted to the situation. He's on a Taylor Run Swift tour right now.

Speaker 2 It started off with, I didn't want to address it, but since the video came out,

Speaker 2 I feel, this is LeBron talking, I need to address it. He completely missed the whole point.
The whole point, never would I allow people to talk, not

Speaker 2 allow people to talk about a sport and criticize players about what they do.

Speaker 2 This is your job to criticize or to a position where there's a guy that's not performing, you know, that's all a part of the game. But when you take it and you get personal with it,

Speaker 2 it's not my job to not only protect my damn household, but protect the players. He's going to be smiling ear to ear when this comes out talking about it because I know he's going to be happy as hell.

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Speaker 2 Hey, me,

Speaker 2 I wish Stephen A would just left it alone. Once he addressed it, once it happened.
The first time.

Speaker 2 Address it. This is what happened.
He came over to me, said what he said.

Speaker 2 I want to address it now, and I'm going to be done with it. Right.
Because as my grandma used to say, boy, stirring up old-ish, it still smells.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 every time Stephen A talks about it,

Speaker 2 it stirs it up again. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And look,

Speaker 2 I see both sides of the equation.

Speaker 2 But Stephen A just needs to let it go. He needs to let it go.
And now you're like, well, if he'd hit it, I don't think LeBron was coming to hit you.

Speaker 2 LeBron was coming to tell you, bro, just stop talking about my son. He said, because you said, oh, as a father, now you're making it personal.

Speaker 2 You're making it personal because now you're making it seems, and this is how LeBron, I think, took it.

Speaker 2 You're making it seem that I'm not a good father, that I'm not putting myself in, putting my son in a position

Speaker 2 to be successful. And so you're like, you're pushing this.
And so LeBron took it a certain way.

Speaker 2 And am I surprised LeBron responded the way he did so publicly? Because LeBron is a very private person. Yes, sir.
He might have an issue with someone, and you will never know it.

Speaker 2 You'll never know it. Yeah.
You will never know it.

Speaker 2 And so for him to do that at a game, and it wasn't after the game, it wasn't before the game. It was the third quarter during the timeout.
Right.

Speaker 2 Let you know how upset he was at Stephen A and what Stephen A had been saying. But at this point in time,

Speaker 2 I understand LeBron, they asked LeBron about this, but if I'm Stephen A,

Speaker 2 hey, guys, I've already addressed that. He said said what he said.
I understood his point. I said what I said.
Now it's time to move on.

Speaker 2 Look, it's not going to stop me from talking about LeBron James, the basketball player on the court. But the incident, I feel that we've talked about it at nauseum.

Speaker 2 I feel we've talked about it enough. And now it's time to move on.

Speaker 2 That's what I wish Stephen A would do. But like he said, I mean, look, I get it.
That's LeBron James. It's the biggest name in pro-North American sport.

Speaker 2 And when you mention his name, good, bad, or indifferent, people don't want to click and hear what you have to say about him.

Speaker 2 But the one thing I know about this guy, and I know him a little bit, I don't know him as well as a lot of people do.

Speaker 2 That man loves his family. He's going to protect his family now.
Always, always. And I think when you think about it, you go back to the way things

Speaker 2 happen with LeBron actually addressing Stephen A. Corsai is, well, what Stephen A said obviously was said publicly

Speaker 2 on a public forum, on TV. So he addressed it the exact same way, publicly, coincided in the middle of a game.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 2 As a father, you know, and like Stephen A. said, he understood where LeBron was coming from.
Knowing Stephen A. I think in

Speaker 2 the individual that he is, LeBron said what he had to say today. I'm sure Stephen A.

Speaker 2 is going to respond to that because if you think about it, anytime anyone says anything to or about Stephen A., he's going to have an answer to whatever is being said that's just him and it's always been him i know you would like me leave it alone but i i don't think that's that that's not how this gonna go the only thing i would have said stephen a look i know people are gonna like man lebron should have stolen on you lebron should have did this man they just talking yeah

Speaker 2 man you the same man you about i'm about to be 57 you about to be 58.

Speaker 2 that even that ain't even your emo right you don't think you ain't gonna fight nobody i don't think lebron wasn't gonna swing on you and you wasn't gonna and

Speaker 2 he lebron wasn't gonna swing on you so there would have been no need for you to swing on him i'm glad you guys stood there and y'all talked look he said what he said you seemed to be receptive at the time of it you under seemingly you said you understood because he was speaking to you as a father and not lebron james the basketball player and you seemingly you said you understood that let it go now yeah let it go now look i look i i mean i've had issues i remember uh i had a conversation with kevin durant when he first got traded to Phoenix.

Speaker 2 And I walked into the hotel. I was like, damn, that's KG.

Speaker 2 And he said, oh, let me holler at you right quick.

Speaker 2 I said, what's up? Okay. You know, I can song.
You know, I'm like, damn. I ain't got no dab, no dab, what? He said, let me holler at you right quick.
So, what's up, bro? He said, man, what it is,

Speaker 2 you got beef with me. You don't like me or something? I said, nah, why you say that? He said, man, the way you talk.

Speaker 2 I said, KD, bro, I'm passionate. I say, any topic that we discuss on that show, I'm very, very passionate.
I spent a lot of time researching it and I'm very, very careful to what I say.

Speaker 2 I said, KD, it ain't about no like or dislike. I said, I don't know you personally.
All I talk about is what you do on the court. That's it.

Speaker 2 Whatever you may or may not do after court, I don't give a damn. Right.
I said,

Speaker 2 you can ask your mom. I've had, I've talked to your mom at nauseum or she used to come on the show.

Speaker 2 I've seen that event i said kd ain't no like or dislike i said i'm just passionate about topic bro i said i ain't got no i don't dislike anybody because i don't know anybody to dislike them i it's not like like me and oak when when uh i used to hang out with oak yeah oak used to charge Charles Oakley used to run on the track with us.

Speaker 2 Oak used to come to the gym and work out with me. Oak and I used to go out to Houston's.
That was his favorite restaurant. The N-word always got the cheese toast.

Speaker 2 Me and Oak

Speaker 2 have a relationship. I picked up a phone and called Oak.
I said, I don't know any of these current players like that. Right.
I said, but I'm just passionate about topics.

Speaker 2 I say, bro, I ain't no like or dislike. I said, but if I probably didn't, if I didn't like you, you know it.
Right.

Speaker 2 He said, all right. He said, man, I just, he said, I just, you know, I said, cool, bro.
I said, I ain't got no problem with you. I said, anytime.
Hey, say, hey, here.

Speaker 2 Give me your phone. We exchanged numbers, left it at that.
He saw, I was at the game the other uh

Speaker 2 last year a couple of years ago i took my daughter to the first

Speaker 2 was it might have been this no it was two years ago but anyway yeah had to talk to a talk to him on the bench laughing talk i ain't got no problem with nobody on yo and i was and i'm not trying to go for bad or nothing like that because that but that ain't how i am

Speaker 2 that guy i think when guys see me they know i i ain't ain't all about that man i'm just i'm just cool i just want to vibe have a good old time but i like i said i i i appreciate instead of him like you know bring on twitter and and and and the internet trying to blow it up hey somebody got a problem with me just hey come to me right just come to me i ain't got no problem i talk to anybody anybody anywhere about anything you got a problem with what i said oh oh oh oh why you said that sharp why you said that right

Speaker 2 this is why i said this is why i said that go ahead right and you know what i do like though uh i'm not sure how the people i'm not sure how the people in the chat feel but i enjoy when you talk about kevin durant uh players of that magnitude elite players i'm the i mean obviously we talk about one of the greatest scorers of all time i love the way kevin durant uses social media i love the way he's so accessible to the people to be the star that he is with lebron and allow himself to be vulnerable what lebron did today i've never seen lebron do before What he did on the Pat McAndee show, sitting there for an hour straight and actually just being vulnerable, talking about everything, I really, really enjoyed that because that's something from LeBron that we've never, that obviously I've never seen before.

Speaker 2 And I really, really enjoyed that. And I wish more superstar elite athletes would do that.
Be a little bit more open, be a little bit more accessible. And I mean, it would be just enjoyable.

Speaker 2 It was enjoyable to see him outside that normal setting of

Speaker 2 not being

Speaker 2 viewed as the king.

Speaker 2 If that makes sense. Well, most of the great players are going to be guarded because they're going to only going to give you so much.

Speaker 2 They're going to allow you to see so much of what they want you to see.

Speaker 2 If you look at all the great players, they've always been very, very guarded. They're not going to totally let you inside, especially while they're a current player.

Speaker 2 But back to this LeBron and Pat McAfee. Like you said, Ocho, we're not used to seeing LeBron James sit down for an extended period of time.
Normally,

Speaker 2 like when he's in the finals or he's in the playoffs, he would sit down. That's like five.
That's like 10 minutes.

Speaker 2 And it's always basketball related too huh it's always basketball related he's literally talking about other stuff going on in life he's being vulnerable let people in something he's never never ever done before

Speaker 2 players like that of his magnitude of his status that allows the world and the public to see what he wants you to to actually sit down for a change

Speaker 2 I guarantee you, if they were to do the numbers on how many people watch that Pat Backerfee show, I bet it's astronomical, crazy, because it's something he's never done. Right.

Speaker 2 And, you know, and to see, and to see, like you said, to see him, but that just lets you know that he,

Speaker 2 for me, looking at him, considering that he had ever, ever done anything like this before, to think about how many people have criticized him. Yeah.
And he's never, ever done it before.

Speaker 2 So that lets you know he had gotten to a place that he's like, I've had it up to here. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And

Speaker 2 I don't know if he knew, I don't think he knew Stephen A was going to come to the game,

Speaker 2 but he had it in his mind if he ever saw Stephen A, he was going to step to him. But uh, he got Stephen A's number, he could have texted a calling.

Speaker 2 If there was an issue, you could have text or call him.

Speaker 2 They communicate with each other. Obviously, they have some, some, some sort of relationship.
No, they don't.

Speaker 2 You don't think so? No.

Speaker 2 Okay. Well, my bad.

Speaker 2 No.

Speaker 2 But, like you said, I mean.

Speaker 2 What do you mean? No, they don't now, as opposed to. No,

Speaker 2 I don't think they've ever had a relationship where they pick up the phone and they talk to each other like that.

Speaker 2 I don't think they've ever had that type of relationship. Do I think they've been cordial to each other?

Speaker 2 I remember, I think I saw something on an old clip, maybe with YouTube, where Stephen actually sat down and he interviewed LeBron.

Speaker 2 But I don't think they're in a situation where they like pick up the phone, they have each other, they can call each other like that. I don't know if any LeBron is

Speaker 2 maybe teammates. And it could, I could be wrong.
I could be wrong. I could be totally wrong, but I don't know if LeBron has his number or he has LeBron's number.
LeBron is, you know, very, very, very,

Speaker 2 LeBron rock with who he rocked with. And I think once you get to this level,

Speaker 2 if you hadn't, if you haven't developed a friend by now, LeBron James ain't letting you in his circle. Right.

Speaker 2 It's really that simple. So

Speaker 2 he got his friends. You know, Rich is his agent.
Maverick is his step chief of staff. Mav is one of his business partners.

Speaker 2 I'm trying to think who else he rocks. Chris Paul.

Speaker 2 He's very close to Chris Paul. I think he's the grand, grand,

Speaker 2 godfather to run a CP3 that I think vice versa, same thing with CP.

Speaker 2 But other than that, I don't think LeBron has a whole, a whole lot of what we call.

Speaker 2 I look at those guys like I look at Bucket like I look at Bucket and Burns. Right.

Speaker 2 He ain't got a whole lot of Bucket and Burns in his life. You ain't got a whole lot of, you know, TJ, your boy, you rock with TJ or T.O., you ain't got a whole lot of them.
Yeah, nah.

Speaker 2 And I look at LeBron, and I think LeBron is kind of like that. But hopefully,

Speaker 2 hopefully, hopefully,

Speaker 2 everybody's made their point.

Speaker 2 Yeah. LeBron was upset what he said.
Steven, they said what I was trying to say.

Speaker 2 Sometimes things get lost in translation. It is what it is.
But at the end of the day,

Speaker 2 I think

Speaker 2 we've got a lot of juice.

Speaker 2 I think both have kind of squeezed that orange, Ocho. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And got a lot of juice out of it. And then LeBron took an aim at Wendy.
Brian Winhorse said, this guy says he's my best effing friend. These guys are just weird.

Speaker 2 I don't know if wendy's ever said i think wendy went to the same school he went to ocho i don't think i don't think i've never heard i could be wrong guys hell i was on i was on undisputed for seven years i didn't hear everything wendy said as a matter of fact

Speaker 2 I didn't watch anything on anywhere. All I watched was the games that were on ESPN.
I don't watch any other debate shows.

Speaker 2 I don't watch any other shows that do what I do when I'm going to be talking about something because I don't want what they say to creep in what I'm going to say. So I don't watch it.

Speaker 2 So Wendy, Chad, if he said that he was LeBron's best friend, I apologize, but I don't recall.

Speaker 2 And if I misspeak, I apologize to you guys, but I don't believe Wendy has said that he's LeBron's best friend.

Speaker 2 I think because he's covered LeBron for so long, and I think they went to the same school, St. Vista, St.
Mary, he says, I think he said, I might probably know him. better than anyone else.

Speaker 2 But I don't get why, I mean, he would say that about Wendy.

Speaker 2 Man, you never know. I think, I think, like, like I said, LeBron is probably, LeBron is fed up.

Speaker 2 He's on, I'm not saying he's on the way out the door, but he's on the tail end of everything.

Speaker 2 And now he's opening up a little bit more, doing things out of character that he normally wouldn't do, which is giving the people what they want, letting us in, you know, giving us a glimpse of what's inside the world and mind of LeBron King James.

Speaker 2 And I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it.

Speaker 2 I hope he does more of it. I hope other athletes do more of it.
You know what?

Speaker 2 I wish LeBron was like Jeff T.

Speaker 2 Have you ever heard? Have you ever sat and listened to

Speaker 2 him tell stories? Yeah.

Speaker 2 LeBron would, it would be, it would be an honor for him to take a page out of Jeff T's book and be that bone open and open and just

Speaker 2 give it. just give it the stories.

Speaker 2 I would love that.

Speaker 2 Yeah.

Speaker 2 LeBron talked about his relationship with MJ. While he still has immense respect for Jordan, the pair don't talk much these days.

Speaker 2 I think that would change when he retires from NBA, saying Jordan's intense competitive spirit is why the two don't talk much now.

Speaker 2 We all know MJ, even if you don't know him personally, he's one of the most ruthless competitors there is.

Speaker 2 And until I'm done and he doesn't have to look at me run up and down that court wearing the 23, every time my name is mentioned, it's mentioned with his. He's like, I don't want to effing talk to you.

Speaker 2 Do you agree, Ocho? I mean, that's dope. That's dope.
Listen, that's the competitor, the competitive nature in MJ. I think it's understandable, especially when it comes to him.
I think he's

Speaker 2 not closed off, but MJ and Kobe are alike in a sense.

Speaker 2 MJ and Kobe are alike in a sense. I think their relationship will be much better and a lot closer once LeBron is done playing.
Yeah. They go play together.

Speaker 2 Go play golf together, smoke cigars, you know, have a little, have a little wine, whatever it is that they do. But right now, while LeBron is actively playing, I don't think him and the MJ

Speaker 2 just outside of playing the game of basketball and being successful businessmen, there's not much for them to talk about right now. The only friend I know Jordan got is Oak.

Speaker 2 I mean, Oak is his guy. Now, I've been around Jordan a little bit, and he is ultra, ultra competitive.
First thing got me, I mean, I want, hey, you want to play cards? No, I don't want to play cards.

Speaker 2 Because, you you know, Jordan games, you got to come down with at least 100, 100, 100 grand, 200 grand in cash. Oh, yeah, he don't play.
He do not. Yeah, I was like, no.

Speaker 2 I said, bro, you're not fit to have me. You're not fit to have me living on the streets.
I love my house.

Speaker 2 It ain't yours, but I ain't trying to keep up with you. No, no,

Speaker 2 I don't play no $5,000, no $50,000 a hand. Hell no.

Speaker 2 No, bro, bro. Guess what? As long as they make shoes with that logo, you got money coming in.
I ain't in the NFL no more. I ain't got no more money coming in.

Speaker 2 You know, I was 35 years. I could draw my pigeon at 62.
So I got another five years before I can get that Ocho before I take a pen of it. Hell no, I ain't gambling with you.

Speaker 2 As a matter of fact, I'm mad you asked me that. You know damn well I ain't got no money.

Speaker 2 No,

Speaker 2 I'm gonna let you in. I'm gonna let you,

Speaker 2 because I think they play guts. It's kind of like Bo-Ray.

Speaker 2 You ever play Bo-Ray? No, sir. No, sir.
No, sir.

Speaker 2 Or in between. But nah, hell, nah.

Speaker 2 He also,

Speaker 2 LeBron talked about Giannis on P-Mac. You tried to tell me Giannis wouldn't be able to play in the NBA games in the 70s.
Giannis would have had 250 points in a game in the 70s. But let me ask you.

Speaker 2 See, you transporting Giannis today back then. Right.

Speaker 2 Do y'all really know what they did? Did y'all see those fights? How many people got to go down the lane? See, the stuff that they call foul now, that wasn't no foul.

Speaker 2 There was nobody getting suspended for slapping the ish out of somebody. There was no, I mean, there was no, I mean, what did

Speaker 2 Carl Malone put 44 stitches in Isaiah head?

Speaker 2 You still think you want to come down the lane?

Speaker 2 Do y'all remember the finals in 84? When Larry, when Larry Burke, when, who is that? Kevin McKel snatched Kurt Rambus ass out the sky? Yeah, yeah. And it wasn't a flagrant, it wasn't nothing.

Speaker 2 And nobody was suspended, You can't take the modern play because Ocho, you're talking about technology and you talk about the modernization. Yes, if you transform

Speaker 2 Giannis today and put him back then, look at that as

Speaker 2 yeah, what player couldn't?

Speaker 2 What player, if I take Ocho, if I take you today, you know what you know, and the technology that you've been able to develop and put you back in the 70s. Man, Ocho will kill it.
Yes, yeah,

Speaker 2 yeah, Modernization. That's unfair.
Yeah. I think from with LeBron.
And just like it's unfair, one more thing, Ocho. Just like it's unfair to say, oh, man, Jordan played today, he averaged 50.

Speaker 2 Let's, how about this? Let's leave everybody in the era in which they played in.

Speaker 2 Giannis plays in the two, to the 2010s and 2020s. LeBron has been in the 2000s, the 2010s, and now the 2020s.
Let's leave everybody that because it's unfair. Yeah.
It's unfair. Look, I get it.
And

Speaker 2 it's

Speaker 2 a conversation, but come on, because

Speaker 2 we're not being fair to the guys that played in that era. That was great.
Right.

Speaker 2 Because it's almost like if you talk about these guys, like you're trying to minimize them. And I get mad at the old guys for trying to minimize the current players.

Speaker 2 Guys,

Speaker 2 you were great. Nobody's trying to rob you of that.
You were great.

Speaker 2 These guys are great. The guys in the 60s, that were great.
The guys in the 70s were great. Guys in the 80s.
Right.

Speaker 2 But it's unfair, Ocho. Yeah.
I mean, I mean, listen, I understand what LeBron was saying. Obviously, he is exaggerated a little bit.

Speaker 2 But if you look at the players from back then, I know just being honest from a technical standpoint, from a physical standpoint, I know what they did in between the lane and being physical and, you know, slapping and and punching and all that.

Speaker 2 But you're thinking about Giannis and Giannis today.

Speaker 2 Oh, my goodness. The athletic ability.
It's called technology, Ocho. You got an opportunity to work on things.
Guys

Speaker 2 didn't have modern medicine. They didn't have technology.
Think about when you ruptured Achilles. You were done.
You tore a knee. You were done.

Speaker 2 You had that big ass bulky knee brace, that big Dunjoy on. It's different now.
We got modern medicine. We know how to eat.
We know how to train. We have personal trainers.

Speaker 2 And Busio, those guys guys in the 60s and 70s and 80s didn't have the money to have all of this stuff. Right.

Speaker 2 LeBron, when you're making $50 million in basketball and another $75, $80 million off the court, you could have a chef that prepares every meal to your specifications. You can have a physio.

Speaker 2 You can have a Mike Macias as LeBron, as excuse me, as Jordan had Tim Grover. Tim and I, Tim and I, we still, we text a lot now.

Speaker 2 But it's different. It's not fair that you try to compare this era to that era or that era to this era.

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Speaker 2 Oh boy, Damian Lillard was diagnosed with blood clots in his right calf. He's the third player this year to have blood clot issues.
In 2022, the playoffs, no Chris Middleton.

Speaker 2 In 2023, Giannis plays two out of five games. In 2024, Dame and Giannis both were injured.
Dame is out in Depply.

Speaker 2 Should the Bucs be thankful that Giannis had all-time finals run in 2022, I mean, 2021.

Speaker 2 Because it seemed like ever since then, at some point in time, a key player has been injured. Chris Middleton was injured.
Then there was a couple of years that Giannis was injured.

Speaker 2 And then you had Giannis and Dame both injured. And now Dame is injured.
And the Bucs are not going anywhere without just with just Giannis. First of all, he's not going to be at the Cavs without him.

Speaker 2 And he's not going to be able to beat, he's not going to be able to beat the Celtics. He damn, hell, he wasn't going to probably be able to beat the Celtics with Dame.

Speaker 2 Hell along with him without him. I'm not so sure they can beat the Knicks without Dane.

Speaker 2 The days of one guy dominating a series and winning the Hulk, that's over. You forget all about that.
Yeah. I mean, it's unfortunate.
It's unfortunate. Obviously, it's very, very serious.

Speaker 2 When Mayama has something similar to this, if I'm not mistaken, I don't know if the diagnosis is exactly the same, but obviously, it's a blood clock. Uh, I'm glad they were able to catch it.
Um,

Speaker 2 uh, it sucks, it sucks for the Bucs, it sucks for the organization, and it most definitely sucks for Damian Letter and his family.

Speaker 2 I'm hoping a speedy recovery for him, uh, especially something like this is very, very serious, especially when it comes to the oh, yeah, you're on blood thinners, and you're probably gonna be on blood thinners the rest of his life.

Speaker 2 Man,

Speaker 2 yeah, that that's that sucks, man. I oh, I hope we hope He gets better fast, man.
The Lakers fall to the magic. 109, 98.
The Lakers win three with three losses in a row.

Speaker 2 They lost seven out of their last 10 ball games. They lost to Boston, Brooklyn, Milwaukee, Denver.
Then they won three straight, beat Phoenix, San Antonio, Denver.

Speaker 2 Then they lost another three straight, Milwaukee, Chicago, and Orlando. The Lakers bench was outscored 30 to 14,

Speaker 2 which was an issue. The Lakers got to do a better job of guarding.
Watch this game from start to finish. They're just not guarding they're just not guarding now look

Speaker 2 they're about a year or two away

Speaker 2 orlando paulo bancaro and wagner oh they legit oh they they legit legit yeah they legit legit bancaro had 30.

Speaker 2 uh wagner had 32 and then they got uh black came up the bench and gave him 17 but they are legit the lakers got to do a better job of defending it's really that simple they didn't shoot the ball well they shot about 46%.

Speaker 2 They shot 28 free throws. The free throw was pretty close, 10 of 32 from the three-point line.
The difference was

Speaker 2 Orlando shot down near 50% from the floor. You're not going to beat a team if you allow them to shoot 50% from the floor.

Speaker 2 But everything was really close. I mean, Orlando had 43 rebounds, 12 offensive.
The Lakers had 39, 11 offensive. But the only difference I could really see, Ojo, was that third quarter got him again.

Speaker 2 The Ladies had a two-point lead at the half, and then they get outscored in the third quarter by about 14, 16.

Speaker 2 And it's the third quarter again. JJ's going to have to push some different buttons because they come out lacks of days ago and they let the team go on a run.

Speaker 2 And it's hard to reattach yourself to them

Speaker 2 when they get a streak like that. But give Orlando credit.

Speaker 2 They won.

Speaker 2 As a matter of fact,

Speaker 2 they stopped Cleveland. They went on the road.
Cleveland had a 16 17 game win streak they went into their building and they won

Speaker 2 so

Speaker 2 the rec they're better than their record would indicate right the problem was bancarro got hurt at one point in time logner got hurt at one point in time so they haven't been able to play extended period of time together but this is a good team don't let don't let their record fool you but the lakers have to be disappointed they got to play better than fourth spot right now um they're two and a half i think two and a half games out of the second spot but tonight, again, it was defense.

Speaker 2 They gave up 146 Saturday night

Speaker 2 and they gave up 118 tonight. And they had been playing really, really good defense up until that point.
Okay. Now with everything that you said, they're in fourth,

Speaker 2 right?

Speaker 2 They lost tonight. You understand the problems and the woes that the Lakers are having, the inconsistencies.
They want to run.

Speaker 2 You're understanding their woes coming out of halftime in the third quarter, allowing teams always going to run. Now, think about everything you just said.

Speaker 2 I want your honest answer and your honest opinion.

Speaker 2 Is it still a legacy five?

Speaker 2 Leggers of five.

Speaker 2 Liggers are five.

Speaker 2 Look, that's fixable. Look, that's fixable, Ocho.
That's something like, look, guys, we've got to do a better job of defending.

Speaker 2 And you can't, guys can't get broken down off the first dribble. Right.
You get broken down at the first dribble. Now you're compromised because help's coming.
And now they swing the ball.

Speaker 2 They're getting wide open threes or they're getting uncontested layoffs. So you can't get broken down off the first dribble.
They got to score 34 to 18 in the third quarter.

Speaker 2 I mean, there's no, there in no way should a Lakers team that got Luca Doncic and LeBron James on the court only score 18 points in a quarter. Yeah.

Speaker 2 And if you only score 18, you better make sure they don't score more than 22.

Speaker 2 Because if you do that,

Speaker 2 and I get it, the Lakers, I think they played, what, seven games? Well, at one point in time, they had seven games in 10 days. But we don't do excuses here.
You either win or you lose.

Speaker 2 It's a very short, on sports menu at my restaurant. Only thing I got on my menu is dubs and L's.
That's all you can order.

Speaker 2 You can't order excuses because I don't serve it. So the Lakers are going to have to find a way to play better in the third quarter.
They're going to have to

Speaker 2 find a better way to defend because this is not acceptable. This is not acceptable.
I mean, look at all these minuses. Dorian Finney Smith, minus six.
LeBron, minus 17. Jackson Hayes, minus 10.

Speaker 2 Luca, minus 9. Austin Reeves, minus 7.
Every starter was minus.

Speaker 2 Hell, as a matter of fact, everybody was minus.

Speaker 2 That's not good enough.

Speaker 2 You can't win like that. There's no way around it.
You can't win like that. And when you take Jackson Hayes out, Braun is basically playing the five.
Too small of a lineup. yeah

Speaker 2 i mean maybe maybe the last two three minutes four minutes of a ball game you can run this lineup but not when they go and bank not when they go in bankaro not when they go in wendell carter not when they go and franz wagner it's too small yeah just too small

Speaker 2 uh reddick admitted the lakers looked tired tonight we weren't able to sustain the level of intensity we started the game with they did they scored 30 in the first quarter 30 in the second quarter 60.

Speaker 2 uh they had a two-point lead 60 to 58 at the half.

Speaker 2 But then again, out of the third quarter, here come Orlando. Boom, boom, boom, boom, boom.
Yeah. And there you go.

Speaker 2 Same quarter every time.

Speaker 2 Needed to play some different music at the half, huh? They need to do something because this ain't getting it done. This ain't getting it done.
I mean, and

Speaker 2 what's their record? So that's 50, that's 61, that's 71 games. They only got 11 games left, Ocho.
Yeah.

Speaker 2 You're supposed to be gearing up. You're supposed to be playing your best ball heading into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 Not, you know, maybe they left a little bit on the look because at one point they were like 18 and three

Speaker 2 have won a bunch of games. You don't want to be sliding going into the playoffs.
You want to be playing your best ball heading into the playoffs.

Speaker 2 But

Speaker 2 this performance was unacceptable. And Don Connect only played five minutes.
But I think a lot of that has to do with, look, his defense intensity. I mean, he needs to understand.

Speaker 2 I mean, he just gets lost.

Speaker 2 And I can tell JJ is,

Speaker 2 JJ doesn't like minimal stakes. Yeah.
That irks him because he's a perfectionist and he wants guys like, guys, we went over this. That's why I couldn't coach.
We went over this. The guy comes.

Speaker 2 Okay, you stay on that guy. Don't try to fight over the top and lead the guy on a wide open three.

Speaker 2 So

Speaker 2 Lakers got some problems.

Speaker 2 Nothing they can't solve. They got

Speaker 2 three more games on this road trip. I think they got a a four game road trip before they turn back to uh uh the crip

Speaker 2 well i know that hurt that that i know them i know that those road trips back to indiana i think

Speaker 2 i thought it was list yeah

Speaker 2 yeah so they got they got uh they got a way they got they got they got three more games on the road oh cho before they turn return home they need to be play better than what they played tonight or what they definitely what they played against the bulls yeah they picked right up where they they left off not playing defense.

Speaker 2 They started with great intensity in the first half, but that waned in the third quarter and that was really the undoing of them.

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