Club Shay Shay - Jess Hilarious Part 1

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Speaker 4 When you got the job, Ojo and I'll Nightcap was talking about it. And I said some comments and it went viral.
I said that, you know, hey, Ojo, she nice. She nice.

Speaker 4 So if I offended you, I want to take the time out to say, I apologize. That was not my intent.
I didn't. And I don't ever want someone to feel uncomfortable with my comments.
No.

Speaker 4 So that's why I wanted to take the time to say, Yes, I apologize for what I say.

Speaker 24 Oh, no, it's okay. That means you got some good eyes on you.

Speaker 4 That's just all that means.

Speaker 24 You know, ain't nothing with it.

Speaker 4 All my life, been grinding all my life.

Speaker 4 Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price.

Speaker 4 Want a slice, got the roll of dice, that's why. All my life, I've been grinding all my life.

Speaker 4 All my life, been grinding all my life.

Speaker 24 Sacrifice, hustle, paid the price, want a slice, got to roll the dice, the swap.

Speaker 4 All my life,

Speaker 4 Hello, welcome to another episode of Club Sheche. I am your host, Shannon Sharp.
I'm also the proprietor of Club Sheche. And today, we're at Spotlight LA.

Speaker 4 Stopping by for conversation on a drink today, she's made a name for herself on the comedy circuit, spreading laughter both online and off.

Speaker 4 She quickly became one of the biggest rising stars in the industry, performing to sold-out shows nationwide.

Speaker 4 A true force to be reckoned with in the world of entertainment, an undeniable staple in the digital age, a prominent, influential, and outspoken social media star a popular personality an actress or entertainer content creator savvy businesswoman and a loving mother a fearless and a fearless co-host of the insanely popular award-winning syndicated morning talk show the breakfast club she's just with the mess but her news is real here she is ladies and gentlemen the one and only very funny just hilarious

Speaker 4 thank you You better run it down.

Speaker 24 I like that. You like that?

Speaker 4 I like that. I tell people when they come on the show, I don't give people what they deserve.
I give them what they earn. And everything that was written on this card, you've earned.

Speaker 4 So congratulations. Thank you so much.
I don't know if you drank or not. You drank? I drank.

Speaker 24 I did one day, but what is this? What we got here? This is my cognac.

Speaker 4 It's an award-winning cognac. We won the Sip Award in 2022, which means a blind taste test.
We line up cups and all the other cognacs. And people say, you know, we like A.
So we beat all the pop.

Speaker 4 We don't have to name them, but you know the cognac. And we beat them in a taste test.
So

Speaker 4 I want to toast you. All right.
I think it's been about a year since you've been the co-host of the

Speaker 24 club, right? Yes, it has been a year.

Speaker 4 And welcome your second child. Yes.
So for a loving mother and everything that you've accomplished and will continue to accomplish.

Speaker 24 Thank you. Now, you know, I'm going to tell you the truth.
If this is good, I'm going to let you know because I don't care how many awards it wants. Go ahead.

Speaker 4 I don't care. It's all about taste.

Speaker 24 All right. It's smooth.

Speaker 24 It's smooth because I was ready to be expanding on. You wanted to change the formula.
All right. But no, it's good.
It's good.

Speaker 4 Well, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 Thank you for stopping by Club, Jay. Yep.
Baltimore.

Speaker 24 Born and raised. Born and raised.

Speaker 4 Yes. Y'all got an accent, though.
I mean, what's career in there? Yeah, we do. I mean, you know, I'm from Rock South, Georgia.
People bag on me.

Speaker 4 I've had a glow on, and you know, glow from Memphis, bro. Yes.
But let me ask you this, Jess. How important is it for you to embrace how you talk, the way you dress, the way you sound?

Speaker 4 How important is that for you to embrace who you are to remain authentic to who you are?

Speaker 24 I mean, it keeps me relatable. And, you know, that's how I got to where I am being

Speaker 24 unapologetically me. You know, yes, we do have a strong accent.
The you, the do, the two. We speak hot dug instead of hot dog.
Right. What you doing? All that.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 You know, people love as much fun as people make about the accent. They love it.
Everywhere I go, they like to hear me say things and everything like that. But the Baltimore will never die me.

Speaker 24 You know, I've lived in L.A. I've lived in Atlanta.
I've lived New Jersey, New York. But, you know, Baltimore will never die.
You know, I got to stay grounded.

Speaker 4 When I first got into the media space, I I got on television. I went to all these people to try to change my dialect because I talked with a heavy colloquial dialect born from rural South Georgia.

Speaker 4 But once I realized that that's not who I am, I needed to embrace. And then once I really like heard Charles Barkley, I was like, man, Charles' accent is worse than mine.

Speaker 4 He from Leeds, Alabama. And once I embraced who I was, people embraced who I was.

Speaker 4 Do you think that's of the utmost? Because if you lose who you are, that's your identity.

Speaker 4 Just talking to Dew and the dog that's who you are and if you lose sight of that you kind of lose who sight lose sight of who you actually are yeah now i i when i go to baltimore i get a little bit more baltimore than i am outside of baltimore but i it will never completely die within my dialect no it won't uh

Speaker 4 who has the thicker accents memphis or baltimore memphis

Speaker 24 money bag yo uh oh my god uh nllie chopper i think nlli chopper he he don't sound as Memphis as the rest of them. He don't.
He don't. So that's the one that comes.

Speaker 24 He's one of the ones that don't really get to Memphis. But Glow.

Speaker 4 Oh, my God.

Speaker 24 Sometimes I'll be like, what'd she say? But that's my baby.

Speaker 4 I love her. And she quit me somebody.
You country. I like Glow, really? Uh-huh.

Speaker 4 I'm country.

Speaker 4 Let me ask. All the famous people from Baltimore, Jada Pickett, Krishan Rock, Monique, Carmelo, Mario, Cisco, Javani Davis, Phelps, Bay Root, Thurgood Marshall, Billie Holiday, Montel Williams.

Speaker 4 What do you think? What is it about Baltimore? And

Speaker 4 that so many of these people were able to leave Baltimore and become what we know them as today?

Speaker 24 We're talented. You know, we're like diamond in a rough city.
You know what I mean?

Speaker 24 We're overlooked a lot because we're known as, you know,

Speaker 24 and then people only know us for The Wire.

Speaker 4 Right. You know,

Speaker 24 which is still one of my favorite TV shows of all time. I'm telling you, not power not touching wire.
Uh, the wire, we who else, what BMF is.

Speaker 4 No, 50 gonna come for us now. Well, who me and you? Because he's gonna get mad at me because I

Speaker 4 he's gonna get mad at me because I allowed you to say it on this platform. He's gonna come for you because you're gonna say the uh power is not touching the wire.

Speaker 24 Oh, well, I said it before, and I say it again.

Speaker 4 50.

Speaker 24 Now, he can try to redo the wire and cast me if he wants to, but other than that, the wire is his favorite damn show. Oh, really?

Speaker 4 So, yeah, I'm yeah, Monique gave you some love. How did that make you feel when Monique? Because Monique is Monique, before you answer that, is Monique misunderstood?

Speaker 4 What do people get wrong? Because I'm thinking that you have kind of a better relationship with her than most.

Speaker 4 What do people get wrong about Mo?

Speaker 24 Man, listen, that is a hard-working woman. That's somebody that paved the way for

Speaker 24 all of Baltimore, not even just on a comedy sense. Like, she's unapologetically

Speaker 4 her. Yes.
Right. 1,000.
And yeah.

Speaker 24 And when she's done wrong, you're going to hear it. Yeah.
And you're going to hear about it.

Speaker 4 She ain't letting nothing slide.

Speaker 24 Until you make it right with her. Yes.
That's the thing. Because when you make it right, she,

Speaker 24 yep, she's a loving person. You know what I mean? Like, and she uplifts me every chance she gets.
Listen, I remember I opened up for her one time, right?

Speaker 24 And when I opened up for her,

Speaker 24 I wasn't going through anything or anything like that.

Speaker 24 And that woman hugged me right before she went on stage because i opened up for her she hugged me and i just cried like it was like it's one of them hugs that i got you i'm here for you you're doing great keep doing what you're doing f the naysayers and you know what i mean so yeah she is misunderstood but she's also been done wrong too and and she's also understood but i think a lot of

Speaker 24 A lot of what she's been through has been neglected by those who caused that harm to her.

Speaker 24 And

Speaker 24 she just wants to make make it right like she wanted them to make it right she shouldn't have had to go through go to this platform and go to this extreme and go to that extreme to hear to be heard about things that that you know she's felt that she's been slighted a lot why is it uh just that when you think when people do you wrong the first thing they say move on get over it

Speaker 4 you notice that yeah yeah why do you think that is why can't people just embrace like bro if i say you this is what you've done okay just acknowledge don't tell me i need to get over it yeah you need to apologize yeah why is it so hard for people to apologize because it's not done to them you know what i mean like it

Speaker 24 it's not done to you you don't really feel it unless you're done wrong you know what i'm saying and i've been done wrong as well you know and sometimes i let it roll off my back you know and sometimes nah you're gonna pay for that you know depending on depending on what you did okay you know what i mean and depending on if i want to move on from it or not because everything don't deserve, you know, your time and energy to go back and forth with it, you know, but some things like, no, you're going to feel what you did to me.

Speaker 24 Right. You know.

Speaker 4 Grew up in Baltimore, two-parent household. How was that?

Speaker 24 Amazing. Really? Amazing.
My parents, they were married up until a few years ago.

Speaker 24 But me and my brother.

Speaker 24 Kevin, we got to grow up in a loving household.

Speaker 4 Our dad worked.

Speaker 24 Our mom worked as well. Like both of them worked and they gave us what they could.

Speaker 24 We grew up in West Baltimore city you know emerson avenue west baltimore and and they were able to give us what they didn't have you know what i mean so yeah is it was it the situation were they strict were they disciplinarians were one was strict One was a disciplinarian and one was lenient.

Speaker 24 My mom, she's deacon of the church. I'm telling you, we was raised in church.

Speaker 24 We go to church Tuesday, Wednesday, Saturday, Sunday, you know, and then my dad, on the other hand, nah, that was the, he was the DJ. He's the one that taught me all the music I know.

Speaker 24 I have such a wide variety of music that I listen to, you know, and then he's where I get my funny from. Like, my dad is like the comic of the family.

Speaker 24 But yeah, two different, two different, but it's balance. Right.
Balance.

Speaker 4 That's, boy, you talk about here and here.

Speaker 4 The two D's. One is a D kid, the other's a DJ.

Speaker 4 How did that count?

Speaker 24 Yeah, yeah. Well, my dad was a Marine.
He went to the Marines and he and my mom met in high school. Okay.
And he married her right out of high school,

Speaker 24 you know, right before he went to the Marines. And they just been together.

Speaker 24 And I think they got married so young, they didn't really get to live the single life and to date and see what's out there. My mom has always been like just a one-man woman and just a lover.

Speaker 24 And my dad, he didn't get to live out that bachelor life. And so that's what kind of like deterred.
the

Speaker 24 marriage, you know, later, later, later. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Looking back on that, how important do you think that was to have two parents and to have a loving environment to to let you know with if and when you decide to get married we'll get into that a little later and you decide to have kids what was important

Speaker 24 man just the structure of my household you know um

Speaker 24 no household is perfect no two parents are perfect yeah i i had the the perfect balance but still there were things that you know that every household has to endure you know but as both of my parents relate to me today,

Speaker 24 I am happy that they instilled in me like how to raise my children. Okay.

Speaker 24 They never let us see certain things growing up, like when dad was broke and he, you know, we never knew that until I got older. And he sat us down, talked to us.

Speaker 24 When y'all had the latest tennis shoes and y'all was, you know, and they made us earn everything. But when y'all were walking around looking good and everything, nah, my bank account was low.

Speaker 24 You know, these are conversations that my parents waited until my brother and I were grown to have, you know, and then my mom opened up to me about her being unhappy, you know. Um,

Speaker 24 the last, what,

Speaker 24 10, no, eight years of the marriage, you know what I mean? And fidelity played a part in it. And then how my dad just he didn't want to leave because he still, that was the love of his life.

Speaker 24 He just still didn't get to fulfill that, you know, dating. And they got when you get married young, it's so many people.

Speaker 4 You get married out of high school, like 18 nights. Yes.
And you stay together until you feel in your 50s and 60s. You missed.

Speaker 24 You want to see what? Oh, BBL's out?

Speaker 4 Shit. Okay.

Speaker 4 Okay. Cool.
This is nice. All right.

Speaker 24 Bitches can buy the edges. That's okay.
You know, it's a lot of new things.

Speaker 4 Did you see your parents argue? Did they argue in front of you?

Speaker 24 No, never. I've never seen my parents argue ever with each other.
No, I did not.

Speaker 4 So, in other words, and I heard, I read this quote. They say, what you crave as a child, you overcompensate as a parent.

Speaker 24 Now,

Speaker 24 my son have seen me and his father go at it.

Speaker 24 My son done seemed to me, I see his father up. I ain't gonna lie.
I done got into it physical with the dad. Man, me and Rome, that's my son's father.
My son's name is Ash.

Speaker 4 Your oldest dad, your oldest child.

Speaker 24 Yeah, my oldest child, Ash, and he's 12 now. His dad's name is Rome, and me and Rome have been through it.
We have been through it, but we are really, really good friends and family today. But yeah,

Speaker 4 I ain't take that rule from my parents.

Speaker 4 You left that part out.

Speaker 24 Very much. I did.
I left it out.

Speaker 4 You went to a product, I mean, mean, Baltimore, and you went to a predominantly white high school. I did.
How was that?

Speaker 24 It was scary at first, yo. I ain't even gonna lie, my mother had pulled me away from Baltimore City public schools and was like, no, I want better for my child.

Speaker 24 And, and, you know, my dad was on board. My dad was like, ah, he was kind of going back and forth with it.
Like, I don't want to just pull her from what she knows. She got her friends here.

Speaker 24 She's into sports here. She's doing things.
She has her life here.

Speaker 24 I don't know if we should, but at the end of the day, they did. They were making a great decision.
And I'm glad that my mom did that.

Speaker 24 I'm glad that my dad went on ahead with it because a lot of things I learned. You know, I'm well-rounded because of that.

Speaker 24 It was scary. At first, I was acting like they was being racist, and they wasn't.
I was like, somebody just called me. And my mom was like, no, they didn't.
I was like, all right, you're right.

Speaker 4 But I just don't want to go to school.

Speaker 24 Oh, man.

Speaker 24 They don't know how to dance. Everybody wants me to teach them how to dance.
And then I became one of the most popular kids in the high school. I was at that time because it was York, Pennsylvania.

Speaker 24 At that time,

Speaker 24 it was only, I I think I was like one out of 12 black students in the school this the school had about I don't know I would say 10,000 kids yeah it was like the size of a university like a college yeah and it was a middle high school so Dallastown area pen

Speaker 24 dallet Dallastown area high school it was in a Pennsylvania and it was scary at first but I'm glad that I stayed it's funny that you said that because my my my daughter's mom had the opposite she was at a uh

Speaker 4 a private school that was predominantly white. And she pulled her out because she said, that's not reality.
She said, you're not going to be in a predominant area at any point in time in your life.

Speaker 4 So you need to be more around it and be around people that look like you and have different ethnicities and so forth and so on. So she did the opposite.

Speaker 24 And I totally understand that.

Speaker 4 But I did see, I did see on IG where this black, this young black female said that

Speaker 4 a black should not go to a predominantly white because you can lose sight of yourself.

Speaker 24 Something I've never done. I've never done that.
I'm telling you. I, like I said, you know,

Speaker 24 I was afraid at first because, yeah, I came from Baltimore City public schools. Everybody I saw looked like me.
You know, little ponytail on the side, you know what I'm saying?

Speaker 24 Nobody combing the back of their head. So the buck shots is bugging.
You know what I mean? But then I go up there. Everybody got long, straight hair, blue eyes.

Speaker 24 And I'm just like, okay, this is what it is, you know. But it was like the opposite of what, you know, you just brought up.
Like, I had already seen and been around

Speaker 24 black people for so long and people who look like me in Baltimore. And it was good for them to pick me up and drop me in a place that was foreign to me.

Speaker 24 You know, because then I learned other cultures. You know what I'm saying? And then I also learned what being the minority felt like.
You know, I learned

Speaker 24 what controlled racism was. I learned when somebody trying to be smart, they can't directly be smart.
Yeah, because they know they get their ass knocked out.

Speaker 24 But so, so I, I, okay, yeah, this is what y'all doing. All right, I got you.
So, you know, it was great.

Speaker 24 Then I also made some of, like, I met some of the greatest people that I've known since then up there. So I, I thank my parents for that.

Speaker 4 Did you get in any fights? They call you names?

Speaker 24 Hell no, not to my face.

Speaker 4 Nope, nope.

Speaker 24 Listen, I, I, I ain't gonna lie, going to high school with white kids, that's how I got into drugs and all of that. I, I smoked my first blunt up there.
I did my first shroom up there.

Speaker 4 Damn. Yeah.

Speaker 24 Bonfires and all of that.

Speaker 4 So, so they, so, so, how did this, so, how does this happen? You're like, okay, what y'all doing tonight? What y'all getting into tonight? You're like, okay, we're going to do this, yada, yada, yada.

Speaker 4 You're like, okay, cool.

Speaker 24 They were, they were inviting me for a long time. Like, yo, you want to come to this bonfire, dude? Like, it's going to be great.
Like, so cool. And I'm like,

Speaker 24 okay, yeah.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, all right, cool.

Speaker 24 I see what a bomb, because you know, I'm from Baltimore. Ain't no bonfires down there.
You say a fire is somebody's house. You know what I mean? It's just, it's not, it's not a bonfire.

Speaker 24 So I go and I see them rolling up weed. I'm like, all right, I had never smoked weed, tried weed in my life until 10th grade high school.
I'm like, let me, let me see. I'm like, what y'all put in it?

Speaker 24 Cause I know white people lace they stuff. You know what I mean? So I'm like, let me see.
You know, I see little substances being poured on top of the blunt. You know what I mean, pour it in it.

Speaker 24 And I'm like, give me a regular blunt. You know, I hit it.

Speaker 4 It's cool.

Speaker 24 I'm hungry. I'm feeling a little funny.
You know, and so I start telling jokes and stuff. But then I see.
people are tripping off of other things. And I'm like, what's that? Oh, yeah.

Speaker 24 Well, that person, you know, Carlos just has some acid over there. You know, I'm like, yeah, I ain't.
I don't want that. I don't want that.
No.

Speaker 24 Then, you know, know, you got pills over here.

Speaker 24 I'm telling you, these kids had everything

Speaker 24 except for their parents there all the time. That's what set them aside from me.
That's when I started connecting with my friends on a different level because they would see how my parents were there.

Speaker 24 They would come home every night. They would tell me they love me.
They would tell me, you know, because I would have my friends over too.

Speaker 24 And I remember one of my friends saying, her name is Talia. She's like, you and your mom tell you guys, tell each other that you love each other like all the time.

Speaker 4 I'm like, yeah, you and your mom don't? She's like, no, not really.

Speaker 24 Like, I don't really see my mom. And that was the case for a lot of them.
A lot of their parents, they own big corporations and work for big companies. They traveled all the time.

Speaker 24 They would just get them kids money, you know, and that's what, that's how they would get into drugs. And everybody had a car and everything, but they would get into drugs.

Speaker 24 And they didn't really feel that love that they saw between my parents and I. So I connected with them.

Speaker 4 So you think they have a, so the next, so would you have tried your, let's just say for the sake of argument, you stayed in

Speaker 4 Baltimore public schools. Do you believe would have tried drugs? We would have experimented like you did?

Speaker 24 I definitely would have tried weed. I mean, my big brother smoked weed and he started smoking weed when he was maybe 12 years old.

Speaker 24 And yeah, so I would have tried that, but I probably wouldn't have got on the shrooms. I probably wouldn't have started with psychedelics at all.

Speaker 24 But yeah, I do psychedelics for something different, though. I do it for clarity.
It's not just

Speaker 4 you said did or do. I do.

Speaker 4 I do. That's present to you.

Speaker 24 Currently, yes. Right now and today.

Speaker 4 Damn. Yeah.
I mean, you try to see the future. What's going on?

Speaker 24 Look, you can. It depends on how many shrooms you consume.
You might be looking into the future or somebody else's future, but you'll be up there.

Speaker 4 So let me, so

Speaker 4 when you do, you by yourself?

Speaker 24 Not all the time. I do shrooms with my sister and my fiancé.

Speaker 4 Okay. Yes.
So, I mean, so what, so, so what, so what did they actually do? They free your mind? Yes, they did. Is it like an Adderall? Is it something like...

Speaker 24 see i've see i also got hooked on at a roll in high school as well because i couldn't focus and i needed that to focus you know it was a lot going on right so it's very different from from that like so shrooms it's not really a high you don't feel like a high it's like it's enlightenment right you know you and you feel open and you can go you're not out of it though you can tap no if you're scared if you're a person who it overthinks a lot yeah i would not recommend them for you you know what I mean?

Speaker 24 Because you can go crazy. See, yeah, if you're doing all of that,

Speaker 24 like smoking in a pigeon boot,

Speaker 24 you better not be, oh, I ain't doing no shrooms with you, Shannon. Uh-uh.

Speaker 24 Yeah, but it's good. I still do it.
Yes.

Speaker 4 You had a friend overdosed, though, right? I did.

Speaker 24 I did.

Speaker 24 But that was not from shrooms. That wasn't from shrooms? No.

Speaker 4 Did that scare you?

Speaker 24 Absolutely. Because he was so young.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 24 You know, he was very, very young. And

Speaker 24 it was one of a few kids that actually, but this was my friend. Yeah, he had overdosed.

Speaker 24 I forget what the drug was. It was, it wasn't shrooms, though.
It was, it was something. I think it was like bath salts or something like that.

Speaker 4 Oh, yeah.

Speaker 24 And it was, it was messing him up, man.

Speaker 4 You had some crazy jobs coming up.

Speaker 4 A more tick?

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 4 harsh. funeral director.
Yes, yes.

Speaker 24 No. So that's the thing.
That's what I want. That's what I thought I wanted to be.
You know what I mean? Because

Speaker 24 I went to college and did a semester, just a semester.

Speaker 24 I thought I really wanted to get into

Speaker 24 like

Speaker 24 being a mortician. Right.
You know, because every job before that, Shannon, I swear everybody was getting me fired. Everybody, you know?

Speaker 24 And so I'm like, if I work with dead people, can't nobody wake up and be like, oh, she did, you know, because they did.

Speaker 4 But Jess, you were stealing.

Speaker 24 I was.

Speaker 24 but damn but you got you fine but i ain't stealing from the people that was snitching you gotta mind your business if listen if i'm working at a company right and i'm stealing the money and you see me and it ain't your company come and try to get money with me don't don't go to oh she's a stealing boss

Speaker 24 so you want to be the favorite you know what i mean and you that ain't gonna get you no raise that ain't gonna get no bonus for you you could have been getting money with me on the side so in other words would you steal you gonna steal money from the dead people to get coming up with money in their purse in their pocket you go no but that was a very lucrative business to be in people ain't never gonna stop dying no they're not so i was going out plan to stop stealing and making money the right way okay with the dead people so uh uh so you wanted to go to study mortuary science yes

Speaker 24 which i did for a semester and i got scared Because the clinicals, yo, they listen, and I'm not going to say I wasn't paying attention in class, you know, but embalming fluid works very funny.

Speaker 24 If you put too much into it, you know, limbs can lift up and the gas can leave the body after you're well. Yes, they stood up.
And that had happened, and that was the last time them people saw me.

Speaker 4 That was it.

Speaker 24 That's it. I said, I thought y'all was dead.

Speaker 24 And, you know, so I was scared. And I said, I can't do it.

Speaker 4 Yeah, you know, I had a buddy of mine, his

Speaker 4 father owned a funeral service. And it's like, man, dead people can't hurt you.
I said, yeah, but they can make you hurt yourself.

Speaker 4 absolutely they sure can you start somebody sit up in there

Speaker 4 clinching when you do straightening the hair and stuff you damn run into a wall i'm done no done

Speaker 4 so that's it uh social media what made you start what made you get on social media

Speaker 4 well

Speaker 24 I used to watch Maury a lot, right?

Speaker 4 Maury Poge.

Speaker 24 Yes, I used to watch Maury Pobage, right? Even when I wasn't supposed to be watching it, man, I was watching it, right?

Speaker 24 And that was the very first skit that I did.

Speaker 24 I liked liked to do parodies back then. Right.
And so I remade that, the who's the father. I was acting like I was the guy and how they would have the confessionals.
I'm not the father.

Speaker 24 And they would have these like different angles. Like it would be an angle down looking up at the guy.
And then it was just funny. So I remade that.
And that skit took off.

Speaker 24 And then I'm like, oh, damn, this person reposted it. Then this posted it.
This person. I said, well, I can do this.
So I just kept doing videos.

Speaker 24 And this was back when videos were only 15 seconds on Instagram. So I'm like, all right, I got to make people laugh in 15 seconds.
Let me do it. And so I just made a series of skits that went viral.

Speaker 24 And that's, it just took off from there.

Speaker 4 Were you afraid to upload them?

Speaker 24 Some of them, only because I was afraid that people would steal the idea, not

Speaker 24 whether or not people would think it's funny. I've always been funny my whole life, you know.
But.

Speaker 4 Were you a class crown?

Speaker 24 Always. Even up there with the white people.
That's how I got put out half the time. I was definitely like, y'all put people, y'all white and y'all still put people out of class.

Speaker 24 I thought that was only a black thing, but they're like, no, get your ass out of here. No, you're trying to make everybody laugh.
So, yeah, but that's that's how that happened.

Speaker 4 I wanted to touch on this. It slipped over my mind.
When you're stealing, you go to jail for stealing. Did they put you in jail?

Speaker 24 I did go to jail once, not forever stealing from any of my jobs. I was at this modeling agency, and

Speaker 24 I had stole from this one woman.

Speaker 4 Damn, Jess. Yeah, I know.
I know.

Speaker 24 Well, now you can i'm reformed i'm reformed now you know so now people steal from me i don't steal from them so but look uh i was i did i stole from the director um

Speaker 24 and then i stole what you stole

Speaker 4 money what well yeah but

Speaker 24 this the thing this the thing all right

Speaker 24 the the assistant that i stole from she had a nerve to take me to court too But she ain't had nothing on our car.

Speaker 4 I'm like, I ain't even get nothing off.

Speaker 24 I couldn't order a pizza off your card, lady.

Speaker 24 Why are you up here standing in front of the the juris talk and she also stole from me well i didn't get nothing so i shouldn't be tried for this but the other lady yeah she had some she had some big bucks and so yeah you go you i'm some i'm looking at you jess i think you one of them people job to get them

Speaker 24 no i it was a modeling agency and they was lying to people taking all their goddamn money telling us that we can be tyra banks and naomi campbell Campbell. Right.
And

Speaker 24 we couldn't be. Why would you tell me that? I ain't even tall enough.
You know what I mean? And I really was going with this. It was people shorter than me.

Speaker 24 And, you know, it was people on the bigger side that they knew damn well what.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. What's the Ashley, what's the Ashley, what's the lady?

Speaker 24 You can, but not back then, Ashley Stewart, the lane Bryant and all the people. Yeah, that's what, yeah.
But you ain't, come on now. Some of those people in there, they was just taking people's money.

Speaker 4 So you was Robin Hood.

Speaker 24 Yes, and I went back to collect for everybody. But when it came time for me to give back everybody else, everybody left.
So I was like, I might as well keep all up for myself.

Speaker 4 So, that's what that's how that happened. Let me ask you a question: What was the first video that went viral and you were hooked?

Speaker 24 Hmm, my first Jess with the Mess.

Speaker 24 That was my first Jess with the Mess. Uh, I used to do Just with the Mess on reality TV.
This is when Love and Hip Hop first came out, right?

Speaker 24 Um, Love and Hip Hop Atlanta, no, it was New York with Chrissy and Jim Jones, and then I was, and then Amina, Peter Guns, and uh, Terra uh, Tara, and all of them.

Speaker 24 And I started doing Just with with the mess around reality TV. And then I started doing it

Speaker 24 with

Speaker 24 like just industry things, other things.

Speaker 4 Is it true Nikki unfollowed you because of one of your videos?

Speaker 24 I don't know why she unfollowed me, but I know she had reposted me a few times, listening to some of her music that she dropped, and then

Speaker 24 unfollowed me.

Speaker 24 A few people unfollowed me, though. But yeah, I don't know the reason why.
I don't be like, why?

Speaker 4 But you know, you can't be going back and forth with them barbs on social media, though, Jesse. I don't go back and forth with them.

Speaker 24 They go back and forth with themselves.

Speaker 4 Oh, you don't. So you don't respond on social media?

Speaker 24 You don't go back? Not anymore. You haven't said you can't find a comment that I done commented on since what did I say? I like last, I think back in 2023, I said, I'm not going to comment anymore.

Speaker 24 They don't deserve for me to keep

Speaker 4 anything because your nature is to come back.

Speaker 24 Yeah, yeah, it is very difficult. That's why I don't read comments as often as I used to.
Because listen,

Speaker 24 Jesse from around the way, Baltimore City, she on that app, she'll get in your ass. And I've learned a lot.
Things that you will say to an MFO on the streets in Baltimore, sis, you can't do it online.

Speaker 24 Don't do it online. It's not worth it.

Speaker 24 And at the end of the day, these people don't know you and they would never say this to your face.

Speaker 4 So don't go.

Speaker 24 What are we in the comments?

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Speaker 4 Why is it people on social media they'll say something slick?

Speaker 4 You get slicker back with them and then they cry big. Oh my god.
I can't believe you said that.

Speaker 4 You talk to a woman like that? No, she talked to me first like that. Period.

Speaker 24 And that's just what it is. You know what I mean? And that's, and that's another thing.
Growing up in Baltimore, that's what it is. You, there's no rules to this.

Speaker 24 You know, you come at me, I come at you. You can't tell me how, no, you can't say that, though.
It's like, no, no, no.

Speaker 24 And I think we live in a world now where sensitive and offended is the new trend, you know?

Speaker 4 So, yeah.

Speaker 4 There are a lot of social media stars. You look at Desi Banks, Drewski, Youngfly, Pretty V, B.
Simone, this other guy.

Speaker 4 I'm sure you're going to talk about him because he has something to say about you. It wasn't bad, though.
You know what I'm talking about, don't you?

Speaker 4 Excluded that guy. Did you connect with you? Did you see what they were doing? Like, well, damn, they're doing this.
I can do this.

Speaker 4 So, how I mean, how did you even get started doing the uploading of the videos?

Speaker 24 Well, the first person that I ever saw was DC Youngfly. Okay.
That is my brother.

Speaker 24 I know he called me the same thing. I'm his brother, too.
That's what he said.

Speaker 24 But

Speaker 24 that's the only guy I let play with me like that, by the way.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 24 But yeah, yeah, I don't let nobody else call me their brother.

Speaker 24 I don't be playing around like that but uh but yeah i i started off seeing him and you know uh king botch and um like those people and i'm like yo i i actually didn't see any females i i only saw him and i was like yo that guy is funny right even though i couldn't understand everything he was saying

Speaker 24 because that that george is different from your george

Speaker 24 you know and i swear when i first met dc i would just listen and nod and laugh like I knew what he was saying and couldn't understand.

Speaker 24 And then I would ex call Lewis Miller, like, do you know what he said?

Speaker 24 And he'd be like, yeah, i know what he said well them both of y'all country but i'm not country so i don't know but yeah that that's that's what made me feel like hey i can do this too you know because i i could relate to dc he was himself always himself so yeah so what did uh any of the other guys once you meet those met those people did y'all share information did y'all share tips did y'all like well hey let's get this money together yeah i actually took uh beast simone and pretty v and uh watched jazzy on their first tour uh i did my first tour and they i took them with me.

Speaker 24 So, yeah, that's how they got their start in stand-up. Well, Pretty V does a host of things.

Speaker 24 Pretty V don't like doing no damn stand-ups. She is

Speaker 24 successful and entertaining, though, for sure. So, yeah, she's more like a host, but yeah.

Speaker 4 How do you meet Country Wayne?

Speaker 24 How did I meet Country Wayne?

Speaker 24 I know that it's not on your colour. Let me see that damn color over there.

Speaker 24 How the hell did I meet him?

Speaker 4 He's a nice dude, though. Yeah,

Speaker 4 see how you even say it.

Speaker 4 Yeah,

Speaker 4 but

Speaker 24 I don't even remember how I met the fella. I don't.
Damn. I don't.
Sorry to that man.

Speaker 4 Okay now. Okay, Kiki.

Speaker 4 I'm sorry. I don't know that man.

Speaker 24 You know, I'm sorry. I just don't know.

Speaker 4 I don't remember how I met him. How old were you when you got on stage for the first time?

Speaker 4 Hmm.

Speaker 24 I don't remember how old I was, but it was 2013. 2013.
When I got on stage for the first time, the first big stage I got on was 2014.

Speaker 24 I opened up for Martin, and I had only been on stage two or three times.

Speaker 4 Did you always want to do stand-up?

Speaker 24 No, the hell I did not. I didn't even know what all of that

Speaker 24 consisted of. Like, I grew up watching

Speaker 24 like Comic View stand up late with my dad when I wasn't supposed to, and just watching Bruce Bruce and, you know, seeing a Deion Cole and seeing, you know, but I had never imagined that's what I would be doing.

Speaker 24 Right. Yeah.
I just always was, was funny, humorous, comical, but I never thought that I would be a standard.

Speaker 4 So, did you decide to do it or someone say, hey, Jess, you should, you should try this. So, how did you, so how did you decide to go up on stage?

Speaker 24 Listen, so my big brother, Desi, he's not my biological brother, but he is somebody who is a mentor for me. He's also from Baltimore City, Desi Alexander.

Speaker 24 He's been a feature on my tour since I first started. This is the guy that people know when I'm coming, he coming too.
Um,

Speaker 24 him and another guy from Baltimore, his name is Cool Ant. He's a promoter, and he also works for Nike now as well.
Um,

Speaker 24 they were doing open mics, and I would go all the time. And

Speaker 24 uh, the local comedy scene in Baltimore was, it was just, it was funny, and I just always wanted to go and be a part of it, but not to get up on stage.

Speaker 24 And one day, they just pushed me up on stage because I was already doing the sits and stuff, so people already knew who I was

Speaker 24 locally. And then it was like, you might as well try try it.
My brother's like, Try it.

Speaker 4 And I'm like, Ah,

Speaker 24 I don't know. So then he calls my name.
I go up there. I didn't know what the light was.
When they give you a light, that means, all right, your time is about to be up. Time is dwindling down.

Speaker 24 I thought they were taking pictures. I was up there.

Speaker 24 I was supposed to have been up there for 10 minutes. I mean, five minutes, it went from five to 10 to 15.
And then the DJ dropped the music. And I'm like, well, damn.

Speaker 24 And they like, no, because you got to get off. I'm like, oh, I didn't know.
I didn't know the rules. Y'all pushed me up here.
Now y'all trying to push me off.

Speaker 24 And I started developing a like like for it right not really a love yet until martin lawrence had his brother call me and asked me to open up for him and that's when i was like 13 000 people down at the wells fargo arena that's what it was called then uh state farm or wells fargo arena in baltimore city but um

Speaker 4 uh

Speaker 24 that's when i realized standing on that stage making my city laugh like that i'm like all right yeah this is what i'm supposed to be doing Because prior to that, you didn't have, so you didn't have a bug.

Speaker 4 It wasn't like when you first got up there, you're like, okay, I like this. I'm hooked.
Yeah, like it wasn't until Martin actually called you and you said, Yeah, this is what I'm gonna do.

Speaker 24 Yep, and that's when I started working on my craft. I started actually going

Speaker 24 to open my other open mics outside of Baltimore City and writing jokes and stuff like that. Started seriously.

Speaker 4 Were you working at the time?

Speaker 24 You quit your job? I was stealing.

Speaker 24 So, you know, that was something.

Speaker 24 But I and Miss Pat do something. Wow, I know.
I love Miss Pat.

Speaker 4 I know.

Speaker 24 I know, but I am not a thief now.

Speaker 4 Selma and Louise.

Speaker 24 I know, right? right? I know. I know.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 you do this, you get the bug. And so now you're writing stuff.
You're like, I want to be good at this. I want to be the best I possibly can be at this.
And you start taking it serious.

Speaker 4 And from that point on, from when Martin brother called you, that was the moment that you said, what? This is what I'm going to do.

Speaker 24 That is the moment. That is the moment, the moment when I was on stage.
Right. Because I was scared as hell.
He had called me about something else.

Speaker 24 He didn't even call me to ask me to do the show first. He called me because Martin was working on plays, he wanted to like get into like the play field, right?

Speaker 24 And was like, uh, Martin wants to do a play with you.

Speaker 24 Would you be interested, you know, once you uh thinking about your kind of like Tyler Ferrett was doing, yeah, yeah, and um, and I was like, Of course, and then we hung up, and then he called me back, like, well, what are you doing this weekend?

Speaker 24 Because you know, Martin is on this what now tour, right? And um, and he stops in Baltimore, you know, he's from Maryland. I'm like, y'all know everything about Martin.

Speaker 24 Martin was one of my favorite actors coming up, like, you know, and so

Speaker 24 he was like, Yeah, would you mind opening up for him? You got 10 minutes to come.

Speaker 4 And I was like, shit, I got an hour lying, lying.

Speaker 24 And so, as soon as I hung up, I called my brother. I'm like, yo, I get to open up for Martin.
I only been on stage two or three times. I need you to help me.
He helped me.

Speaker 24 That day of the show, I went out there. It was me, Melanie Camacha, and he had one other person.
I forget who it was. And then he went on.
I went out there.

Speaker 24 I forgot everything me and my brother wrote down.

Speaker 4 Oh, Lord.

Speaker 24 But because I was home and it was Baltimore City and I knew the lingo, I knew what they loved. I knew what, I know we love some damn crabs.
I know, you know, I'm born born and raised there.

Speaker 24 I can only speak to my city. Who better? So, killed it.
Killed it. Did a solid good 10, 12 minutes.
And Martin was right there standing on the side because he wanted to see how I did.

Speaker 24 And it was amazing. That was your big break.
And that's when I was like, I'm going to do this.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 4 Give me your Mount Rushmore Baltimore comedians. Hmm.
Huh? Yeah.

Speaker 4 You know what? Don't do Baltimore. Yeah.
I'm going to take it broad. You get four comedians because a lot of times people be trying to put seven, eight people on Mount Rushmore.
There's only four.

Speaker 24 Hey, yeah, it's only four, right?

Speaker 4 That's only four here. Damn.
So give me your Mount Rushmore comedians.

Speaker 4 Pastor, dead or alive, it does not matter. Man, woman, it does not matter.
You can have four women, you can have four men. You can do it both.
Mix and match. It does not matter.

Speaker 4 Give me Jess Hilarious. If she said, okay, Jess, who are your Mount Rushmore comedians?

Speaker 24 Bernie Mac,

Speaker 4 Cat Williams,

Speaker 24 Kevin Hart.

Speaker 4 Oh, that last one.

Speaker 4 Mm.

Speaker 24 I'm just going to say Jess Hilarious.

Speaker 24 Because I wanted to, you know,

Speaker 24 it's hard. It's hard.

Speaker 4 You went with a lot of the modern comedians. Yeah.
And

Speaker 4 didn't go back too much, like Richard Proud. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 No, because I'm going to be completely honest with you. I didn't study them, I didn't really watch them.
You know what I mean? I didn't.

Speaker 4 Touring with comedians. What's that like going on the road with comedians?

Speaker 4 Do y'all interact? Or do you, hey, I'm in my dressing room. When it's time for me to go out, I go out.
I go back. Boom, I'm out.

Speaker 24 Me, I don't really interact a lot with

Speaker 24 it. With people.
No, no, no. I'm staying in my space is shit.

Speaker 4 That's what I do.

Speaker 24 Because, you know, just I, it's, it's a lot that goes into it. You know what I mean? And then not that I'm not friendly, you know what I mean? But I treat work like work.

Speaker 4 You ain't trying to get close to nobody, huh?

Speaker 24 No, I, and it's not even purposely. I'm not trying.
I just don't, you know, it's a lot of just, I, no, I don't. I, I'm not, you won't catch me hanging out.
Okay.

Speaker 24 You know, the most hanging out that I've done is on Wilding Out. You know, I love my Wilding Out family.
I love all those

Speaker 24 comics there and everything. But But yeah, that's that's but that's it, though.
You know, um,

Speaker 24 I will say, like, people like, you know,

Speaker 24 what is his name? Bill Bellamy. He's a great person.
I, uh, Mike Epps. Like, Epps was the first person to call me to drop gems.

Speaker 24 Like, like, he was the first person that I actually talked to that I could say like was mentoring me about ownership and just just a lot of different things like where I think he made mistakes in his first, I mean, in the early getting started.

Speaker 24 Yeah. And then he would make things clear to me so I can not make those same mistakes and things like that.

Speaker 4 You mentioned being on the road. Mike Epps, Ricky Smiley, Monique, and Bruce Bruce.

Speaker 4 What's some of the craziest stories? Because this is the old guard. I mean, I used to see Bruce Bruce in Atlanta.
Monique's been at it a while.

Speaker 4 Mike Epps has been at this thing, you know, probably three decades. Ricky Smiley's been at the same thing.

Speaker 4 What are the, when you're on the road, do you try to pick their brain and try to get info or how to do this thing, how to go about it? Am I doing it right? What should I do different?

Speaker 4 Are you trying to get advice? No. You're not?

Speaker 24 No, I'm not trying to get advice. And

Speaker 24 I don't, yeah, no, I don't try. Because this is the thing.
Yo, I don't even like to watch other people stand up because I don't.

Speaker 24 It's very easy to emulate somebody without doing it, without knowing that you do it. You know what I mean? Like, I remember this one day, I watched Sebastian.
I forgot his last name. He's a comedian.

Speaker 24 I watched him all day.

Speaker 24 And I had a show that night. And I went on stage and I found myself speaking like this man.

Speaker 24 And I'm like, ah, I I can't do that you know but so I don't watch stand up I don't try to pick anybody's brain I will say Lunelle and Leslie Jones okay those two they they're really really good women I love those two women to death like they anytime that they

Speaker 24 Feel the need something is laid on their heart, they reach out to me and they I don't even ask them for advice They just give it and give it and I love those two right because they're very supportive of me I had cat on and he said jess hilarious is one of his favorite up-and-coming comedians yeah i saw that i saw that list

Speaker 24 cat was doing a lot of things up here so when they

Speaker 24 taught a lot of platforms listen it took me first of all it took me four days to watch all of it you know because i ain't y'all was up here for 10 hours i was like damn i hope shannon ain't had nobody else after him but um but listen they i started watching it and then everybody called on my phone yo you seen what cat williams said i'm like what'd he say like you know,

Speaker 24 then they sent me, they said, no,

Speaker 24 it was great. And I went and watched and I said, okay, good.
Let me breathe. Cause I had only heard about everybody else that he didn't have anything nice to say about.

Speaker 24 So I was like, oh, God, how the hell would I do? You know, but I'm glad because he's actually one of my favorite comedians too. Like his earlier stuff, oh, my God, I love Cat.

Speaker 24 I grew up on Cat Williams.

Speaker 4 The interview, you mentioned the interview. What do you think? Hmm.

Speaker 24 I think you didn't even have to ask no questions. You didn't have to have, you didn't.
You didn't.

Speaker 4 Why did they get mad at me though, Jess?

Speaker 24 I don't know why they got mad. They shouldn't have got mad at you.
First of all, listen, Cat only do interviews when he got something to say.

Speaker 4 Yes. Right?

Speaker 24 Yes. It ain't like you called him and said, look, come up here.
I got something.

Speaker 4 I had been trying to get him for a year. I get it.
Yeah. And, you know, he drives it, but he takes the bus.

Speaker 4 And so he was going to be on this side of town. Yeah.

Speaker 4 And, you know, I met a lady that hitting her job and she was going to be his executive assistant. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So I've i've been trying to line him up for a year i talked to her one friday the following friday he's sitting on the couch

Speaker 24 and so now mind you when he comes in he's already on one yeah that's what that's what i'm saying he's already so i don't know why they got mad at you i'm telling i tell you one thing though

Speaker 24 it was good for you it was and it was good for him too

Speaker 4 it was good

Speaker 4 it was great for me yeah it was it it it really put me on the map yeah it put me on the map and it made people take my platform very very serious serious And advertising sponsors took notice of that.

Speaker 4 And a lot of good. And hopefully it was mutually beneficial to him.
Absolutely.

Speaker 4 But, you know, he had a lot to say about gatekeepers.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Do you believe there's such thing?

Speaker 4 Yeah, I do.

Speaker 24 I do believe there.

Speaker 24 I believe it kicks in if a certain person don't like you. Maybe you said something to offend the friend of someone or, you know, you or, you know, you offend a community of people or whatever.

Speaker 24 however it goes yeah there is always someone who makes that decision or maybe a group of people that makes that decision whether or not to indulge in affairs with this person or you know business you know yeah I do believe in gatekeeping though where are you on joke stealing because cat had a lot to say about joke stealing he felt he said a joke

Speaker 4 said stole the joke but he used a different apparatus One guy used the caddy, the other guy used the spaceship. Some people say, bro, if it's that serious, write a new joke.

Speaker 4 If it was that easy for him to steal the joke, the joke wasn't that deep to begin with.

Speaker 4 Where is Jess hilarious on joke stealing?

Speaker 24 Listen, I remember a time when I first started comedy, right? Telling you, I never studied the art of it. I didn't know.
And I sat

Speaker 24 at a show and there was this comedian from Baltimore, right? And she had a joke about squirting, right?

Speaker 24 I didn't like the way she told it, right? So I said, all right, I'm going to take it, spin it around, throw a little jess on that bitch, and and I'm going to retell it. Right.
And I did that.

Speaker 24 And there is a comedian, OG, by the name of Larry Lancaster, who had pulled me to the side at the end of that show and was like, hey, you can't do that. You know,

Speaker 24 because

Speaker 24 this comedian did that. That's very big in this culture.
You cannot do that. And, you know, in the culture of comedy, you cannot steal.
And I was like, damn, even if I remix it, it's not stealing.

Speaker 24 It's just, it's the same idea. But he said, no, because you went online and said that you were going to steal the joke.
And I did do that.

Speaker 24 So I was like, I just didn't know the rules of it, but that was the first and the last time I'd ever done something like that, you know, and, and, and I didn't realize why she was so mad.

Speaker 24 Like, damn, what, just write another joke or tell it better than me and I give it back to you.

Speaker 4 You know what I mean?

Speaker 24 But it was, but I'm like, nah, this is really an art. This is really rules to this thing.
You know, you can't do that. Right.
And so, yeah.

Speaker 4 I mean, I guess people look at it like a song. Yeah.
If you say, if I sing the song and then you come behind it and sing it, we'll write a better song. No, bro, you stole my song.

Speaker 4 You stole my stuff, man.

Speaker 24 And no, you got to give it back. It ain't yours.
So, yeah, I do not steal jokes. Yeah.
And that is it.

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Speaker 4 of writing a set hmm So let me ask you a question. How long are your sets? 30 minutes?

Speaker 24 I am on stage when I headline hour and 15 minutes.

Speaker 4 Hour and 15 minutes. So tell me the process.
So

Speaker 4 say you doing,

Speaker 4 you do week, Thursday, Friday. Maybe you got two shows Friday, two shows Saturday, blah, blah, blah.
Okay. And you're going to be on the road for, let's say, six weeks.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 How do you go about writing a set that's going to be able to stand the test of time for that six weeks? And you're probably going to be on stage 25 to 30 times. Hmm.

Speaker 24 So see, I don't really write jokes out because I found that when I do that, I sound very rehearsed. So what I do is I have bullets.
Okay.

Speaker 24 And I have a writer session every week with my brother, the one who opens up for me, my feature, Desi Alexander. And

Speaker 24 we just bounce off of each other, you know? And

Speaker 24 I don't, yeah, I don't really like to write. Really? You know, I have a 30-minute set.
crafted for when I do 30 minutes.

Speaker 24 Then I have a 20-minute set when I do features on other shows, like when I open up for Bill Bellamy and Bruce Bruce and all those people, you know, things like that, D.L.

Speaker 24 Hughley and Ricky Smiley and all that.

Speaker 24 But

Speaker 24 I, yeah, I don't, I don't really write. I, it's all up in here.
I just have bullets, and that's, that's how that goes.

Speaker 4 A lot of people, a lot of people, and they pulled me to the side to say, Shannon, there's a lot. Look,

Speaker 4 it wasn't so much of what Kat said is that he pulled a curtain back. and allowed people to see something that we've been trying to keep secret.

Speaker 4 And so I think that's really now look, he called out a lot of people,

Speaker 4 a lot of prominent, powerful people.

Speaker 4 But it was more so that what he allowed people to see.

Speaker 24 Yeah.

Speaker 4 Because I don't think the

Speaker 4 general consensus is,

Speaker 4 damn, is that kind of animosity and vitriol in the in the comedic community? Yeah. I didn't know that.

Speaker 24 Yeah, he was letting me things, letting me know things I didn't know either. Like I watching it, I'm like, dang, I didn't know that.

Speaker 24 But those were different times. And, you know, it's better now.

Speaker 4 But it's hard for you to know because you don't really get down with anybody. So you do your own thing and you out.

Speaker 24 Nope. Yep.
I know

Speaker 24 some comics will get mad at you for doing shows with people that they got beef with. And so they won't put you on a show.

Speaker 4 Someone I'm supposed to do not either.

Speaker 24 Unless you a me or somebody and you can just do shows on your own. Right.
You know what I mean? Like, yeah, that's that's you kind of got to play the game. And that's, that's so weird to me.

Speaker 4 You don't strike me as somebody that like to play games.

Speaker 24 Hell, no. Not no game.
Not ever.

Speaker 4 You ever got into it with comedians?

Speaker 24 Have I ever gotten into it with a comedian? Hell yeah, I gotta with a comedian.

Speaker 4 About what? Hmm.

Speaker 24 You know, go fish through them cards. I know you got something.

Speaker 4 You be knowing stuff. I don't know nothing, Jess.

Speaker 4 I mean,

Speaker 4 I've just, you know, I thought you was going to be, you know, like, you know, we just, we.

Speaker 24 You thought I was going to be like cat.

Speaker 24 Come up here with something to say and be like, look, this work. No, I'm just saying.

Speaker 4 I'm just, I'm just asking you, what was it about? Yeah, well,

Speaker 4 Corey Holcomb.

Speaker 24 That is a comedian that I got into it with. I did a photo shoot with my son.

Speaker 24 And it went viral. I was naked.
My son was not.

Speaker 24 My son had on Jordans. Only thing I had on was Jordans and socks.
And he was covering me. He was covering my boobs, my private area.
And he had on clothes. And

Speaker 24 I did the shoot. I posted it.
It goes viral.

Speaker 24 The next morning, I wake up to

Speaker 24 Corey Holcomb calling me a whore and, you know, a black whore and saying that my son would be gay.

Speaker 24 And this is why a lot of our young black men are gay because of black whores like Jess Hilarious and things like that. And he was

Speaker 4 again.

Speaker 24 I do not know. I still have not got the chance to see this man.

Speaker 24 That was the reason why i went to wilden out to see this man and you hit him and he wasn't there that day no i made the show but i'm like i thank you nick but where's where's corey he's oh no he ain't here so why you because you know why i'm coming up here nick because that's why you reached out to me because i flamed him i was roasting him back to back three days straight and that's why you reached out nick you knew i wanted to see him He said, no, but you got on the show.

Speaker 4 Thank you. You let it go now?

Speaker 24 Hell no, I ain't let it go. No, I didn't let it go.
I mean,

Speaker 24 it wasn't even so much about him talking about me. You don't say that kind of thing about somebody, child.

Speaker 24 You know what I mean? You just don't say stuff like that, you know? But then I realized he don't have a relationship with his mother. You know what I mean?

Speaker 24 He doesn't have a relationship with his kids. He told one of his kids after him, he'll make another one, you know?

Speaker 24 So it's, you know, and he, the way he talks about his family, you know, something like he has other issues, obviously, you know, very dirty person.

Speaker 4 Right. Yeah.
Tell me, what's the audition process like for Wilding Out?

Speaker 24 They, you, well, how it was for me, I don't know how, how it's changed, but well, I don't even think it's going to be no more wilding out. But really?

Speaker 4 Did they, huh? Yeah. What happened? Because they saw Nick.

Speaker 24 And Zeus Network via Com.

Speaker 4 Oh, they want it back, huh?

Speaker 4 Yeah. Well,

Speaker 24 apparently,

Speaker 24 they ain't take it. Nick didn't take it.
Well, well, yeah, that's what they're saying.

Speaker 24 They saying that he took the whole idea and the whole concept of wilding out and took it over to Zeus with LaMelle and them over there. So,

Speaker 24 that's what they're saying. So, ain't no wilding out now, I don't think.
But either way, the question that you had asked me refreshed my mind again.

Speaker 4 How does that happen?

Speaker 4 How do you audition? How do you audition for a wilding out? And then how do you make the show?

Speaker 24 Okay, back wait, because I don't know how it's changed, but

Speaker 24 back then,

Speaker 24 you go, they'll have it at at a hotel like in one of the banquet halls or whatever and then you go in there and then nick wants you to joke on the spot you know go back and forth with somebody or like a rap battle because the the thing is wild style everybody's favorite thing is wild style it wasn't my favorite thing because i ain't just thinking of valentine that girl can rap for days and days i'm talking about but

Speaker 24 They'll have you do that. They'll give you a topic and you just spit jokes on it.

Speaker 24 And then you'll just go back and forth with somebody, like cracking on them, joking and roasting and stuff. And then if they like you enough, he'll tell you, okay, yeah, I got you.

Speaker 24 You're on it or we'll call you back, something like that. See, he already knew what I was capable of.
That's why he reached out anyway. So I didn't have to go through a second step.

Speaker 24 You know, I just got it.

Speaker 4 What's your favorite moment of the show? Do you get upset? Because somebody, hey, man, they be going in hard.

Speaker 4 Jess.

Speaker 4 Hey, hey, I might have had a swag on somebody.

Speaker 24 Oh, trust me.

Speaker 24 Guests have canceled. Guests have sent in stuff.
Like, look, I'm going to come up there, but y'all can't talk about this, that, that, that, that, this, and this.

Speaker 24 And y'all talk about this, this, and 85 South, which is Carlos.

Speaker 24 They see it and Chico, they'd be like, well, why are you coming up here? Because you already know we don't go by that. We don't play.

Speaker 24 Man, come on now. And then Nick let us do what we want on the show.
It's like, whatever. We joke, Nick.
You know, Nick is always the butt of the joke. So it's like, whatever.

Speaker 4 Except Chico, Chico got him good, man. Oh,

Speaker 24 them three stay on Nick.

Speaker 4 Like, oh, my God.

Speaker 24 I don't even know how. I would have been put them off my show.

Speaker 4 I don't care.

Speaker 4 Yeah, yeah. Bye.
Yeah. But yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 I love them, though. What's your favorite?

Speaker 4 Who's your favorite Wilding Out guest?

Speaker 24 The favorite Wildin' Out guest or cast member? Guest. Guest.
Hmm.

Speaker 24 I ain't going to lie. I don't got no favorite Wilding Out guests.

Speaker 4 I ain't going to hold you.

Speaker 24 The best episode that I watched, though, I ain't going to lie, was the one with T-Pain and the one with Chance the Rapper. I wasn't there.
I was off filming other things.

Speaker 24 But yeah, I can't really say. Wendy Williams, I ain't going to lie.
I got to meet Wendy Williams, and she knew who I was, and I roasted her.

Speaker 24 She talked about me on her show after that, shortly after that, after she came.

Speaker 24 But Wendy Williams was very fun. She was very fun.
She came, she played the game, she wasn't scared of nobody. She know how she is.

Speaker 4 So she said, all right, y'all, bring it on.

Speaker 24 I love that.

Speaker 4 How is nick as a boss

Speaker 24 nick is nick is good god fear man he prays before every show he's he's really really a good dude um

Speaker 24 i will always and forever respect nick for this so

Speaker 24 i did

Speaker 24 two seasons of wild and out right and then i got casted for the sitcom rail on fox right um and i was going to be series lead and so that meant that i had to move to la and i i couldn't shoot wild and out Out.

Speaker 24 And there was a season of that coming up.

Speaker 24 And so I went and I talked to Nick. I said, Nick,

Speaker 24 there's this show. I want to do season whatever it was of Wilding Out, but I got casted, you know, to do REL.

Speaker 4 And he said, yo, go. What are you talking about?

Speaker 24 This will always be your home. Whenever you want to come back, or even if you don't, whatever, you always got a place on this show.
Wow. That made me cry, dog.

Speaker 24 That was dope. He was like, yo, I see more for you.
I see this for you. I saw this for you.
Go ahead. And you just come back when you're done.
Like, why don't I was going to be here?

Speaker 4 Until it ain't. In private,

Speaker 4 you rag on Rick, Nick, about all them kids.

Speaker 24 In private, in public. I'd be like, damn, come on now, man.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 24 I just felt like, I don't know. In my opinion, I felt like that marriage messed that man up and now he's overcompensating for something he couldn't compensate for.

Speaker 24 That's just what it is, you know? He may get angry at that. It wouldn't be the first time Nick got mad at me about a comment.

Speaker 24 but you know i just i don't know and not to say that he's just making kids for the fun of it but

Speaker 24 you know that's what it seems like but i know he loves all of his children dearly you know but yeah i'm just like god damn you're purposely doing this yeah purposely doing this so you blame him with a lady that's allowing him to know he's purposely doing this

Speaker 4 Well,

Speaker 24 I would honestly say it would have to be on the woman, right? Because it's your body. He ain't the one having the kids.

Speaker 4 And you know it.

Speaker 24 Yeah, men can't have kids. Right.
I'm going to say it for the people in the back. Men can't have kids.

Speaker 4 So, you know, it's the women. Maybe the first two.

Speaker 24 You make that decision.

Speaker 4 Maybe the first two they didn't know. Yeah.
But three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine.

Speaker 24 Yeah, come on now. And then the one that's brewing right now, probably, if it is one.
I don't know. I don't know, but we never know.
Because ever since they said Elon Musk got 13.

Speaker 24 Now, Meek Mill with Nick and all of them, they like, oh no, we can't. We must.

Speaker 4 But Elon must. Elon Musk is worth $430 billion.

Speaker 24 I keep trying to tell these.

Speaker 24 There's a different because one thing niggas gonna do is nigga. And I keep telling them y'all can't nigg with him.
Yes. No, no, no.
Yes.

Speaker 4 You can't do that.

Speaker 24 Yeah. And

Speaker 24 for Meek Mel to say, yo, I can't let Elon Musk have more baby mothers than me. Sorry, you're looking at it wrong.
Elon Musk made, what, $177 billion in the the last 30 days? Yeah.

Speaker 24 What your mindset should be is, I can't let this man. How did this man is rich? I need to get on that.
But

Speaker 24 your mind is so in the bottom. You're thinking about babies.
What are you talking about?

Speaker 4 This man thinking about dollars. Exactly.
Come on now.

Speaker 4 Okay. You said Nick is suing Viacom.
He's suing Viacom is suing him.

Speaker 24 Yes, it said that was in the headlines.

Speaker 4 Right. Now.
With the bad versus wild show?

Speaker 24 Bad versus wild.

Speaker 24 And Zeus. It ain't only Nick, it's Zeus Network.
Right. Yeah.

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Speaker 4 What about Drake? This Drake suing Universal about what transpired with him and Kendrick over this. I mean, this might be the greatest diss song ever.
Yeah, no, it is.

Speaker 4 I thought with no Vaseline, I thought I healed him up. I thought ether,

Speaker 4 Sheeta, with with a Remy Ma.

Speaker 4 I mean, I was like, hold on. But this five Grammys,

Speaker 4 I mean, and he headlined the Super Bowl and number one on the charts again.

Speaker 24 Why wouldn't he perform that song?

Speaker 4 What? Yeah, you got to.

Speaker 24 Yeah, you got to.

Speaker 4 That's like your best joke, and you're not going to tell it.

Speaker 24 What you mean? I ain't going to tell it on my special. What?

Speaker 4 Please. Oh, I'm getting that one.

Speaker 24 Yep, I don't care who it make mad. It is what it is.
Now,

Speaker 24 because there's like a double-sided thing with that.

Speaker 4 Now, while rap is rap there are no rules yeah you hit below the belt kendrick just went to hell with it you know so that's how i am jeff

Speaker 24 i know how you if you go low i ain't going low i'm going to hell um yep that's right i i love you michelle obama but nah we're gonna have to take it down there and yeah i and i get it um

Speaker 24 but i will say Drake does have a valid argument when it comes to losing brands over such an accusation like, you know, the pedophile thing and you saying that you know i i like little girls and you know what i mean it's just

Speaker 24 and that that surely could cost you some business you know some money sponsors and endorsements and all of that type of stuff you know um

Speaker 24 going as far as

Speaker 4 suing universal but that's a y'all puppet

Speaker 24 because these are this is people and these are the people that put you where you are right and that that gives you the tricks of the trade and because some of your songs I don't know how the hell they made it to number one yeah like what's the the Tuesday slide yeah

Speaker 4 I don't

Speaker 24 and that went number one I'm

Speaker 24 so now

Speaker 24 you know

Speaker 24 how whether you know they use those tricks of the trade for Kendrick whether they did that or not you once benefited from that.

Speaker 4 You know, so that's the same thing you had a problem with helped you get to where you got.

Speaker 24 Yeah, now you're going to turn around and sue.

Speaker 24 So I think he's stepping into something

Speaker 4 that

Speaker 24 he probably would regret later.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you a question. You think he's lost business because of the PETO accusation? Yeah, yeah, I do.
I really, really do.

Speaker 24 And I honestly think that's why he's been

Speaker 24 also just like quiet as well. And then going to

Speaker 24 all these other countries to perform and things where all of that stuff in America ain't really like there to bother him as much in Australia.

Speaker 4 Right.

Speaker 24 Ain't nobody gonna be, you know.

Speaker 4 People, because people like, it's just words. I don't like people playing with my name, Jack.
Yeah, I get it. And

Speaker 4 like you said, maybe that accusation has caused them some advertisers, sponsors, and that business opportunities

Speaker 4 because there are people playing with my name. And I was just like, you know what?

Speaker 4 And I had to ask myself and I went to my agency. I said, look,

Speaker 4 have I lost any business because of what they're alleging? It's like, no.

Speaker 4 So I let it go. Because if had I had, then I'm going to have to see some of these people.
I'm going to see, so what you own.

Speaker 24 That's right. That's right.

Speaker 24 Now,

Speaker 24 but see,

Speaker 24 your accusations ain't as bad as the accusations that he, like, where somebody call you a pedophile. Right.
And then a certain, then he put you to certified on it.

Speaker 4 Yeah.

Speaker 24 I'm not just a pedophile. Yeah.
I'm a certified pedophile.

Speaker 4 You got papers and everything. What? You know, because you know you, when you're certified, you got papers.
Damn Damn right. Hey, no school district, can't steal up, stay here, can't stay there.

Speaker 24 You don't check in. That's right.
So that's like, you say that. If I was, and if I was tied to any business with Drake, I would be looking like, all right, well, what's up? What's going on?

Speaker 4 Well, they say, well, you talked about that man family. You say this, the child ain't here.
So you said, hey, if you go low, we going to hell. Yeah.

Speaker 24 But that ain't got no weight up against

Speaker 24 those rumors. I mean, that accusation.
So I get it.

Speaker 4 I guess it's a situation, Jess, where you step on my toe and somebody knock you out. Yeah.
You're like, bro, you ain't have to do it like that. You're right.
Right, right.

Speaker 24 You know what I'm saying? Because Kendrick went all the way.

Speaker 4 Off.

Speaker 24 But he did say he did give a warning in euphoria. He did.
He said, all right, I'm going to chill out. But, you know what I'm saying? I ain't.
He gave the warning.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Like, yo.
Right.

Speaker 24 But I ain't going to lie, he ate him up in euphoria even more than not like us.

Speaker 4 Yeah, he called Drake a

Speaker 4 Kendrick. I mean, Drake called Kendrick a woman beater.
Then Kendrick called Drake a pedophile. I mean,

Speaker 4 was it about a what?

Speaker 4 Do you think this initiated about, did it have anything to do with a woman? Because we know guys, we, hey, Rams, we'll butt heads about a female.

Speaker 24 I honestly don't think it had anything to do with a woman. I think that's more so like a Drake thing.
I think Drake would get mad over a woman before Kendrick would.

Speaker 24 And I don't know either one of these brothers, but knowing what

Speaker 4 I,

Speaker 24 what we've all seen and how we know Drake is a very emotional person.

Speaker 24 Kendrick is a very healed person. Like he rap, like he is in therapy currently.
Yes. You know what I mean? And he goes deep with things.
I think that that, I don't think it's about a woman.

Speaker 4 Uh-huh. Uh-huh.

Speaker 24 He just passed through. Listen, he rapping for ancestors and everything.
Yes. You know, once upon a time, we was like the business.

Speaker 4 Oh, Lord.

Speaker 24 You know, so, yeah. Yeah.
I don't. I don't think it was over a woman.
I don't.

Speaker 4 What about DJ Academics taking shots at you while seemingly supporting Drake?

Speaker 4 Do you know him? Have you ever met him?

Speaker 24 I ain't never met his fat ass in my life.

Speaker 4 Lord, have mercy. Never.

Speaker 24 I had never met him in my life, and I never will because he's always in the basement.

Speaker 4 So.

Speaker 4 Chaz. Who?

Speaker 24 Always in the basement.

Speaker 4 Child, I don't.

Speaker 4 Why people come for us?

Speaker 24 I don't know. Shannon, you know, I guess because we're very confident people people love to see you win until you win you win you know what i mean they love they they want you they want you to be

Speaker 24 cocky

Speaker 24 No, they want you to win, but they don't want you to be cocky with it. They don't want you to celebrate yourself.
They put a ceiling. People will put a ceiling on you.
Ain't no ceiling over here.

Speaker 24 I'm going straight out. I don't care how long it takes me to get there.
I'm not going to play no games. I'm not going to cut no corners.
You know what I mean? Unless it's all legitimate.

Speaker 24 But people put a ceiling on you. And I think that's the problem.
People don't want to see you winning to you surpass what winning to them looks like. Right.
You know, and then now it's a problem.

Speaker 24 Oh, she needs to calm down. Or, oh, he needs to calm down.
Like, no, don't get above yourself. Well, why? Right.
Why? Why are you trying to keep me humble? Right. What is that?

Speaker 4 No. Why? You're right.
Because the thing is,

Speaker 4 when I was at Fox and my tournament and I got ended up let go, people like, man, Unc, they did you wrong, yada, yada, yada. Then I start winning.

Speaker 4 ESPN picked me up. I'm on a bigger platform.
That's right.

Speaker 4 My podcast, I start another podcast and it goes.

Speaker 4 And so now everybody got a problem. I'm the same Shannon.
I was the same Shannon that y'all love when I supported Colin Kaepernick.

Speaker 4 I was the same Shannon that when things transpired, that I spoke positive about my people.

Speaker 4 Ain't nothing changed. I'm just winning a little more.

Speaker 4 And now it's a problem. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 I don't get that about us.

Speaker 24 Because they put a ceiling on you. You weren't supposed to do all of that.
You weren't supposed to. You were supposed to just fall by the wayside and do what they had in their mind for you to do.

Speaker 24 But you surpassed a lot of people's expectations.

Speaker 4 When you see negative comments about Jess,

Speaker 4 what's the first thing that goes through your mind? I'm going to get the ass, but then it's like,

Speaker 24 but then it's like,

Speaker 24 I am reformed. I have come so much further than that.
And my growth in that is just like, look,

Speaker 24 you can't beat everybody. You can't respond to everybody.
You can't win them all. Listen, it's like, whatever.

Speaker 4 You can't go to war with everybody. You can't go to war with everybody.

Speaker 24 No, you can't. But you'll be thinking, like, I'm going to get them.

Speaker 4 I do.

Speaker 24 Yeah. Because, because, listen.

Speaker 24 If a comment gets you crazy, I like to go to your page and scroll and

Speaker 24 don't have it public. And I can scroll down and look at you and look at your parents and see who made you and see who you look like.
And

Speaker 24 you talk crazy like that, you look like your dad. I'm going to tell you.

Speaker 4 Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 So, yeah.

Speaker 24 I don't talk about my kids, though, but yeah,

Speaker 24 don't try me.

Speaker 24 That's it.

Speaker 4 You never talk. Kids are always going to be off.
Oh, hell yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 24 I believe once you talk about somebody's kids, they can say anything to you. It don't matter.

Speaker 24 Don't talk about nobody's children, y'all. And

Speaker 24 you can say anything back. I don't care what it is.
You say whatever you can to hit below. Somebody talk about your children.
Children are innocent.

Speaker 4 You talked about this a little earlier, the TV show with Lil Rail on Fox with Sinbad.

Speaker 4 So

Speaker 4 tell me a little bit about it.

Speaker 24 It was amazing. It was amazing working with Sinbad.
Like he dropped so many gems. Yes, he dropped so many gems.

Speaker 24 That was the person, because I'm trying to sit here and think when you asked me a little bit earlier, anybody ever give you any advice, Simbad, but it wasn't

Speaker 24 for stand-up, it was just like in general, like,

Speaker 24 yeah. Um, but he is a comedian that did give me um advice on that set.
It was, it was nice, it was amazing working. That was the first time I'd ever been um a part of a big production like that.

Speaker 24 They treated me well, money was great,

Speaker 24 you know, especially coming from Wildanock.

Speaker 4 Yes, I was like, okay, Fox, what? Okay,

Speaker 24 I got my old pocket spot. I got, you know, get money.
I get money to eat. And all types of stuff.
It's listen.

Speaker 4 Fox, they treat their people well.

Speaker 24 So, yes.

Speaker 24 But it was amazing. And then Rel had a different OG come every single episode.
So he, that, that's what was unique about his show. So Florence from the Jeffersons.
Yes, Marley. Yes.
Oh, Marley.

Speaker 24 She was there. She was amazing.

Speaker 24 Then he would have, he had Leon.

Speaker 24 Leon ain't got no last name. Leon is, we know Leon, the temptation.

Speaker 4 Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 It's just Leon. Yep, Leon, he was there.
And Leon is still fun, too.

Speaker 24 But it just, just a series of OGs and just like people before our time who came and who was still like their season, but they are like vets.

Speaker 24 And they, they came through and they showed up for him, you know, for that, that, um, that first season. And although the show was canceled, yeah, you ain't had to say it.

Speaker 24 I was gonna say, okay, but damn, he made sure it got canceled real quick.

Speaker 4 No, but but I wanted to ask, I mean, after 12 episodes, it got canceled. So, how did that make you feel? I mean, did you think you were gonna get picked up for season two?

Speaker 24 I did, I did. I honestly

Speaker 24 did, I thought we were going to get picked up. Um, while I felt like the writing could have been better, um, and

Speaker 24 I felt like it could have depicted us

Speaker 24 more.

Speaker 24 Um, It was a lot of

Speaker 24 people pleasing

Speaker 24 happening

Speaker 24 because

Speaker 24 you really got to be careful how you move

Speaker 24 in terms of

Speaker 24 making a project based on a culture, like based on our culture, you know, if it's going on Fox, you know what I mean?

Speaker 24 And at first, I wasn't even going to be casted because they thought that I was too green for it. And those terms, she has never done this before.

Speaker 24 So we don't basically, we don't trust that she will be a great, you know, commodity for the show. But

Speaker 24 Ro um

Speaker 24 picked me, and also Carmichael, yeah, Gerard Carmichael picked me, fought for me to be in there along with Ro as well.

Speaker 24 Um, but it was just a lot of things that we didn't resonate with that they wanted to change the script to. Um,

Speaker 24 and and Ro would push back, and Gerard would push back. And, you know, but I just think, I just think.

Speaker 4 You think they should have been a little bit more malleable, more flexible?

Speaker 24 You know, it just could have been. And I think that's what we were missing on the show.
But, you know, you learn. And it was Rel's first show.

Speaker 24 And I think, honestly, it was even too early for him to have a show of his own.

Speaker 4 You mentioned that those TV checks hit different.

Speaker 24 Especially over there at Fox.

Speaker 4 You had spent a couple of them checks already, expecting expecting the new season?

Speaker 24 Listen, I still got a lot of money from Fox.

Speaker 4 What?

Speaker 24 Yes, I still do. I still get money from Wildin' Out.
They always send me like $9.88 checks every now and then. You know, I can use that.

Speaker 4 I use that.

Speaker 24 Go to Chipotle, get a couple of apple juices,

Speaker 24 you know, something.

Speaker 4 Let me ask you a question. What is something that you wish you knew before you got into the TV business? Hmm.

Speaker 24 Something that I I wish I knew before I got into the TV business.

Speaker 4 Because I think

Speaker 4 if you were to do another TV show, you would be even more prepared than you were with that one because you know things that you didn't know when you did that. Yeah.
Yeah.

Speaker 4 Hmm.

Speaker 24 I honestly,

Speaker 24 I honestly don't wish

Speaker 24 I knew anything before.

Speaker 24 I would literally do this all over again.

Speaker 24 I would um

Speaker 4 I would I would

Speaker 24 as it relates to people though I wish I knew

Speaker 24 certain agendas

Speaker 24 or the agendas of certain people okay

Speaker 4 that

Speaker 24 that claims you know to be

Speaker 24 so close to me oh I love you you like family you know what I mean I wish I knew

Speaker 24 the agendas of certain people, okay, you know, yeah, which is why I don't hang out with people in the industry, I don't like to receive advice from everybody, I don't even like everybody praying for me.

Speaker 4 No, they're not, they're praying, but not for the good, though.

Speaker 24 That's right, so I don't,

Speaker 4 you know, I pray for you, don't please don't.

Speaker 24 Why?

Speaker 24 Because I already know what did God say, God should have told you, look, she don't want you to

Speaker 24 she told me, don't be accepting prayers from you for her. So, you know

Speaker 24 little rail is really lil rail now no oh hell yeah why did everybody believe that man on he need to put the t the two t's yeah in the name not just lil it's little rail now he's literally little rail now

Speaker 4 i mean i had him on he thin

Speaker 4 he thin thin yeah just people think he on that zipping yeah and he said he's not he got that package he said what baggage

Speaker 4 What baggage is that? It's on the card. But you know,

Speaker 4 you know, when black people, you lose a little weight. Black people.

Speaker 24 Oh, you talk about daddy.

Speaker 4 You know, you can't lose a little weight around no black people.

Speaker 24 I know, you damn right.

Speaker 24 And that's that's in any city. I ain't even gonna say that's growing up in Baltimore City.
In any city where it's black people, you getting sick? What's going on?

Speaker 4 Like, damn, you can't ever lose weight around no black people. I got a jail membership.
I just lost three pounds. That's it.

Speaker 24 I'm on crack. Like, all right, we lose weight, you know.

Speaker 4 But, um, why we like that, Rick? Why we like that, Jess?

Speaker 24 That's how we grew up. Yes.
A drastic change.

Speaker 4 Uh-huh. Yeah.
Something going on.

Speaker 24 Yep. And if you big, I mean, if you small and you blow up, you on depot.
That's what they say for the women. Oh, she must have got that DepRavera shot, that birth control.
Yep.

Speaker 24 You know, but I, I don't know. I don't know.
I, he said that he wasn't. We had him up at Breakfast Club.
He, he totally turned down the rumors of

Speaker 24 being on Ozempic. And he said he's working out and he said he's the happiest he's ever been in his life.

Speaker 24 You know?

Speaker 4 Because I know you're supposed to get married because when he came on us, he was supposed to get married.

Speaker 24 Yeah, he's married. He's married.
I believe he is married. I don't know.
No, no, no. He might be.
Because he refers to her as his wife. So they may have gotten married already.

Speaker 4 The BBL. Do you think Hollywood,

Speaker 4 is this what women just want to do, or there's a pressure, a societal pressure to do this?

Speaker 24 I think a lot of people

Speaker 24 are not happy with their bodies. And now that

Speaker 24 there is a way that you can change that, you know, and at first it really wasn't affordable to a lot of people, but now it is.

Speaker 24 You can put, you can make payments on, you know, your surgery and everything. And I used to joke about it, but it's like, you know what? If there is something seriously

Speaker 24 wrong with you, to you, and now you have all of these resources to fix it, Right. You know, why not? Go ahead.
I just,

Speaker 24 I just

Speaker 24 wish women would do it in moderation. Like all these repeat offenders.
I know girls that go and get lipo twice a year. Yeah.
Like they, you know, and I ain't working out.

Speaker 24 What I look like working out, I can call a doctor, such and such. Yeah, you can also die too, daddy.
Like, I don't, you know what I'm saying? Like, you,

Speaker 24 just because you've done this before,

Speaker 24 you don't ever have that thought in your mind that this may be the time I don't wake up. This may be, they may hit an artery or a nerve or something in a vein.

Speaker 4 You know, but the thing is, I mean, some of them, it's just too crazy. I mean, it should be subtle.
Look, if you want to do it, that's your body. Yeah, let it be subtle.

Speaker 4 But when it's looking, I'm like, and everybody, like,

Speaker 24 exactly.

Speaker 4 Come on now.

Speaker 24 I know.

Speaker 4 I mean, you can't be 150 pounds with a

Speaker 24 50-pound booty.

Speaker 4 I know, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 24 Or when you

Speaker 24 or when you already start off 300 pounds and then you go get lipo, you get the fat sucked out the middle part, and then now is

Speaker 24 I don't know.

Speaker 4 Yeah, it looked like one of the things that I'm they want to be like they want to be like they have these little teeny tiny weights.

Speaker 24 Yes, come on, big up here, and then you big down there, and it's just not proportioned right.

Speaker 4 Even if you got a big butt, your back can't be bored and and body and think it's sexy.

Speaker 24 That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 Would you do? Would you do?

Speaker 24 Well, would I do it? Yeah. I wouldn't do it again.
I've actually had a fat transfer and I've had my boobs done.

Speaker 4 Yes. I mean, man, I don't really think, I don't really, people don't really look at boobs like that as something drafted.
But when they get

Speaker 4 BBLs and they keep going back and getting fillers and all that other stuff, come on now.

Speaker 24 Yeah, I got my BBL back when it was called a fat transfer. Okay.
It wasn't called a BBL yet because I didn't get my butt lifted. That's why I said, I don't know why they call it a Brazilian butt lift.

Speaker 24 It was, it was called a fat transfer before, and I got it done in Atlanta. And

Speaker 24 it was fine. But when I went, my doctor had told me, like, look, yo, you don't got enough fat.

Speaker 24 I said, listen. Whatever you got, pull it out.
I'm like Gina Waters.

Speaker 24 I got a lot of muscle on my sides. I've never had hips.
Give me hips, please. And he was like, would you have hip dip?

Speaker 24 Yeah, like I would, like, it would be dented in. And I'm like, yo, I'm tired of looking strong.
Like, I just, you know,

Speaker 24 I want, I want some type of curve,

Speaker 24 you know, and so he said, all right, we're gonna fill it out as much as we can.

Speaker 24 But one thing you need to know about fat, when you take it out and all the fluid drain from it, it's not what it looks like. So you're gonna, the swelling is gonna go down.

Speaker 24 It's probably gonna look the same. I said, do it anyway.
And so that's why people don't believe that I did get a BBL because it doesn't really look like it.

Speaker 24 But I think I got one of the most natural surgeries ever.

Speaker 4 Doctor Who.

Speaker 4 But your sister called you out for that, huh?

Speaker 24 Yeah, that heifer

Speaker 24 tried me real bad because she got fired.

Speaker 4 Why you tell her?

Speaker 24 Because she's my god sister. I've been knowing this girl since I was two years old.

Speaker 4 Damn.

Speaker 24 Because I fired her. She was working for me.
She was my driver. Listen, I didn't even have a job opportunity for her.
I created a job for this girl. Right.

Speaker 24 And oh my God,

Speaker 24 it hurt me so bad that she did that and she claimed it hurt her so bad because i fired her and yeah she she had children and you know what she do so why did you fire i fired her because she wasn't doing her damn job listen this girl we was on the road right and this girl stole my wig and my car

Speaker 24 to go do something

Speaker 24 Go meet. I don't know if it was to meet a guy or something.
And we in another city. Who you know? How do you know somebody down here in Florida? And why would you take my wig?

Speaker 24 I supposed to wear that on stage tonight.

Speaker 4 You can still wear it that night, but she's gonna go use it that day.

Speaker 24 I sure did wear it on stage that night when she gave it back, but she's gonna come in there with some flowers. And you took my car, and then the security I had at the time, he liked that too.

Speaker 24 So he ain't even tell me until I woke up. Like, oh, Shay was supposed to have been back.
She went to go get something for you the whole time. No, she went to get something for her.

Speaker 4 She got it. Yeah.
And she probably had the wig on.

Speaker 24 She did. I get back my wig all smelly.
I'm like, what's going on?

Speaker 4 She wore a sex wig. I don't understand.
Yeah.

Speaker 24 Sex somebody else's sex wig. I'm like, yo, I gave it a wig after the show.
Look, and you're fired.

Speaker 24 So that's it. So.

Speaker 4 How hard is it to work with family?

Speaker 24 Oh, my God.

Speaker 4 Everybody say, because you hear a lot. Some people say it's okay.
Some people say no. Family and friends, when it comes to business, when it comes to work relationship, leave it alone.

Speaker 4 Leave it alone. Yeah.

Speaker 24 Sometimes it can work, Shannon. Sometimes it can, but oftentimes it will not.
And then sometimes it starts off great and it can go for years and years and years

Speaker 24 and then a person

Speaker 24 you'll see the jealousy you'll see because now they're paying attention to your pockets yeah yeah what so what you're going to do uh what you could do for them right you know and and how you can and then sometimes people want to be you and you don't even realize that you know what i mean and so they become it it first at first it feels like a weird obsession and until they get upset with you about something.

Speaker 24 And then they start

Speaker 24 telling you they are the reason that you are where you are. You know what I mean?

Speaker 4 So, yeah, I can't tell that one joke.

Speaker 24 Now, you ain't even helped write

Speaker 24 none of this.

Speaker 4 You don't get up every morning and get on the show.

Speaker 24 Listen, you don't. You don't.
You're not flying back and forth and you're not being away from your damn kids. And you're not having to deal with controversy

Speaker 24 and trying to figure out like

Speaker 24 how you can keep this shit moving. Without me, none of y'all eat.
And I need y'all to know that. And I don't even like throwing that out there like that, but that's that's me right there.

Speaker 24 You know, I gave y'all jobs and positions, and y'all just, y'all just did whatever with it, taking advantage. And I'm a really, really kind-hearted person.

Speaker 24 Now, I'm not a pushover, but I love very hard. And I had to

Speaker 24 make some very, yes,

Speaker 24 make some very tough decisions

Speaker 24 firing family and actually not speaking to a few of them now damn yeah man people still

Speaker 24 and people

Speaker 24 just yeah they'll sabotage you if they feel like they ain't getting enough you know you were the first lady of BML how was that experience working with Vivika Fox was amazing I love her I love her love her um she checks on me she hits me up she checked on me even after doing the uh the production uh doing after doing the movie with her.

Speaker 24 So, yeah, that was amazing. That was good doing that.

Speaker 4 But you had a little, you and Lil Meech had a little issue. Y'all resolved that?

Speaker 24 No, I think he got other stuff to do now. Like, he got some other resolving he needs to do at this point.
But

Speaker 24 he came to Wilding Out. Yeah.
And he's Lil Busty. Yeah.

Speaker 4 Oh, man.

Speaker 24 And he, you know, I, that's all I said, you know, but I didn't say it first. I ain't even going there.
Hey, y'all, Lil Meech Musty. It was somebody else.
I think from another city. No, I co-signed it.

Speaker 4 Oh, okay. All right.
I saw it. So you responded.

Speaker 24 I did smell that one time that he was up there.

Speaker 4 Because if you get an apartment and you can't get it and I co-sign it, you don't pay for it. Who they go hit up?

Speaker 24 Yeah. Yeah.
So they, but it was one of his fans who he did a club hosting and she had went online and she had said, Lord Meets, thank you.

Speaker 24 And then we reported it up at the breakfast club and I said, well, he did have a little stitch when he came up at Wilding Out. You know, it wasn't nothing too crazy.

Speaker 24 He could have have been out the night before and just didn't have time to hit the showers, you know, but he got upset, you know,

Speaker 4 because he was with Summer Walker.

Speaker 24 Yeah, they got he needed, you need to tell him they got wipes. But

Speaker 4 I got the wipes. Whoa, whoa, so Summer Walker came to his defending came at you, yeah, man.

Speaker 24 She, she was like, she ain't like come at me crazy, but you know, when summer being love, she being love, and she don't, it don't care what, it don't matter what them guys do, she's gonna go back, go to bat for them guys, right?

Speaker 24 Now, she had came out and she was just like, um,

Speaker 24 this little girl wants him or something like that.

Speaker 4 I'm like, little girl, baby, excuse me.

Speaker 24 But

Speaker 24 around my birthday, right, this is CI AAA weekend. This was two years ago.
I had a birthday party, and little Meach was in town for CIA.

Speaker 24 He was doing a party right down the street from my birthday party. I DM'd him and said, Hey, did because I wanted some more star power at my party.

Speaker 24 I said, Hey, I don't know what you're doing after your party, but if you want to stop past my birthday party, we do have a section for you or whatever, you know, something like that.

Speaker 24 This man screenshotted that and posted it after I said that he was a little musty, you know, like I was trying to get with him.

Speaker 24 And then what I got mad at Summer about was, you so damn dumb, you think that was me trying to get at him?

Speaker 24 If I was summer, I'd have been like, no, babe, this ain't nothing to use. This is not like, you can't post this.
If you're going to come at her, come at her. But she ain't trying to get with you here.

Speaker 24 Like, come on, let's just, let's just use your, mind as a woman or your heart as a woman. Like, you know, I wasn't trying to get with that little boy.

Speaker 24 He looked like Rob Schneider. You know, the guy that duce big old male jiggle old dude.

Speaker 4 But she calls you a lot of names and say you, you're no, she did. She called me a lot of names.

Speaker 24 I think she just said this little girl with this something.

Speaker 4 She called you ugly. She called me ugly.
Oh, my God. They use one chromosome away.

Speaker 24 I ain't even know she even said that word. She said one chromosome away from what?

Speaker 4 It's two chromosomes of you. Me.

Speaker 4 She,

Speaker 24 I'm going to pray for her, too.

Speaker 4 I'm glad you didn't know that.

Speaker 24 I'm glad I didn't.

Speaker 24 I'm glad that you told me. No, let it go.

Speaker 24 But I had no idea.

Speaker 4 Let it go.

Speaker 24 That she tried to call me one of them.

Speaker 4 Let it go.

Speaker 4 All right.

Speaker 24 That's what he did. He let it go.
And then she had to move on. And don't add to all of that, that cousin wasn't that cousin.
That cousin was somebody he was dealing with. So he let your ass go.

Speaker 4 See, there you go.

Speaker 24 I can't believe she said that.

Speaker 4 What's the next question?

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