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All right, Ocho.

We joining us right now is producer, beat producer extraordinaire.

Some of the hottest beats.

Late 90s, early 2000s.

Manny, Manny, Manny French. What's up, bro? What's up? What's happening, Chad? What's up? What's up, baby? What's good with you? M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M-M- and all of that, bro.
Oh, yeah, absolutely. Absolutely.
Every bit of... I got you, bro.
French, what... French, when you look back at your career and you look back, not that your career is done, when you look back at all the people that you've touched and you've made beats for, what are you most proud of? Relationships, bro.
Like, relationships. Better than, you know, the beats or whatever.
people together and, and keep them together. You know, even like right now, what's going on with my crew, like for us to get back together as men and go back out there 25, 26 years and, and, and, you know, and, and still getting.
So I always tried to be the mediator for everybody. You know, even when I was doing a beat with somebody who was beefing with somebody, I was like, listen, bro, that's, that's foolishness, you know, put that down and let's get it.
Like, did you always want to be, did you always want to be a producer? What did you always want to be in the music? So how did this come about? How did you get into the, and then it wasn't like you was just like any, you had some of the hottest rappers, the waves and the juvies and the hot, but you had it all fresh. So I started out as a DJ and even right now, I'm a DJ.
My dad was a DJ. So what got me up to this was my dad.
You know, I used to have to hook my dad's stuff up. I used to have to, my dad was a street DJ.
So, you know, like them holding the wall balls. Yeah.
What a DJ do. Like, you know, a DJ actually puts you in a good mood.
Like, you know, if your bills do, you going through something, it's the DJ's job to make you feel good. Make you forget about that.
Forget about all of that. And, you know, and that spirit just came on me to be like, you know what, this is what I'm supposed to do.
Yeah. Hey, so outside of Pops, man, growing up, who were some other musical influences and how did they shape you or shape the sound? Your sound was different from everybody else.
You know, how did that, how did the sound develop you as a producer? Growing up in New Orleans, bro, it was music all over, you know, everywhere you went, there was, you know, there was somebody playing something. So I just kind of put all of that together and the way I call what I do is gumbo I took elements from west coast you know and down south and just made something that was mine so you know you take a whole bunch of ingredients from everywhere you know when we was early New Orleans you know in the 80s we like west coast and east coast songs't have our sound yet.
So, you know, and then Miami bass came and then we felt like the 808 is our sound. The 808 was definitely down South, you know, and I was like, okay.
And I was like, let me take a little bit of this East Coast, a little bit of this West Coast and mix it with some of this Luke, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Hey, right now, I'm going to think about the current state of New Orleans sports.
You know, your Pelicans, your Saints. Yeah.
How do you feel about the current state of sports in New Orleans? And what do you think of it? What is the vibe like? Obviously, during the season, I'm not able to be there. I was there for Super Bowl.
Yeah. Unbelievable.
That's my second home. You hear me? Yeah.
So how do you feel right now? As far as, especially the Saints. Yeah.
So one of the things, you know, let's just say New Orleans is, let's just say it. New Orleans is a party city.
So it's kind of hard on an athlete. You know what I'm saying? Okay, okay, okay, okay.
Because there's a city where, you know, it never shuts down. Like, you know, so when you come there, you got to come there with the, you know, like you got to be focused because you could easily get caught up into nothing clothes.
Nobody ain't going to tell you put that drink down. You know what I'm saying? And if you're athletes and you hanging out with rappers, it's just not going to vibe.
It ain't going to work. You feel me? Yes, sir.
That's one of the things we got to fix. Like, you know what I'm saying? We ain't going to see no names, but we got a little bit of partying going on right now.
If we fix that, you're going to see an improvement in our teams, bro. Okay.
Maddie, when you look at BG, Juvie, the hot boys, Lil Wayne, big timers, how soon did you know that you know what? That youngest one, the smallest one,, he going to be him? Oh, bro, Wayne was the first one there, the last one to leave. So, you know, when you and it was times where his mom might have took him out the group because he had bad grades or whatever.
And immediately he improved because it was something that he was like, I got to figure this out.

Like,

you know,

and he would beg his mom forever to get back into it.

But just like I said,

he,

and he knew like,

take for instance,

back that ass up.

Um,

Wayne knew to hang around for that song to get the last part of it, to do that after you back it up,

then stop.

Then what,

what,

what he was just like,

nah,

just one of them.

You know what I'm saying?

And you get that from hanging around to be like,

I'm going to hang around because I it up, then stop. Then what, what, what he was just like, nah, just one of them.
You know what I'm saying? And you get that from hanging around to be like, I'm going to hang around because I feel like this is one of those songs. No, so we couldn't get rid of him when we was doing that song.
What about the bling bling? How did he come up with the bling bling? It was, it was always a line that was used in a song, know, like, he would, and I was like, that's kind of clever. You know, and I always thought, like, it was something that stood out about it.
It was something about, you know, it was bling that, you know, Wayne was the first person that I heard to say bling. No doubt.
You know what I'm saying? But it was something clever about it. So I just had, I don't know, like something just woke me up and

was just like bling bling every time I come

around your city, bling bling. You know,

when I wrote the hook, I was like, it's something

special about this work.

Yeah, I was like, something special

about bling.

Yeah.

Listen, you also shared

a very, very, very interesting story

coming up with the hook for Baja

men's Who Let the Dogs Out, but not

receiving credit. Can you tell up with the hook for Baja men's Who Let the Dogs Out,

but not receiving credit.

Can you tell us how the hook came out?

Well, I wasn't supposed to get credit because I was just joking around.

Oh, okay, okay, okay, okay.

I was at Circle House.

You know, and there's some people.

That's not you.

That's not you.

Yeah, I was at Circle House when that happened.

You know, I was with BB and them.

Like, you know what I'm saying?

And somebody just said, like, hey, bro, do you want to,

one of the dudes from,

um,

the,

who,

the,

um,

the guy,

Thank you. Circle House.
When that happened, you know, I was with BB and them, like, you know what I'm saying? And somebody just said, like, hey, bro, do you want to, one of the dudes from the guys who own Circle House. Yeah.
Right? So one of them was just like, hey, bro, we got somebody in the studio if you want to work with them. Like, you know what I'm saying? They working on something.
And I just mentioned, you know what I'm saying? Something in playing, like, you know, because I think I was doing Still Fly at the time. And I was like, hey, how about if y'all try this? You know what I'm saying? I in playing like, you know, because I think I was doing still fly at the time.
And I was like, how about if y'all try this? You know what I'm saying? I'm hitting the beat going. You know what I'm saying? It was like, oh, we good.
I was like, yeah, don't worry about it. You know, and it was one of them songs where you hear and you just like, damn, I remember that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, so in real life, I'm not supposed to get credit.
It was me helping out.

But it's one of them moments where you say, like, I never thought that song would have been that big.

You know?

Right, right.

And it turned out to be something you.

Hey, took off.

Yeah.

Took off.

Man, if I put you under this gun and I say, man, give me your five best beats, what are you?

That's tough, bro.

That's hard. That's hard, yeah.
Yeah, I never even thought about it like that. Like, you know what I'm saying? I'm going to say, let's go from five to one.
Like, you know what I'm saying? Okay. I'll start with probably Go DJ.
You know what I'm saying? Go DJ. Go DJ.
Go DJ. Go DJ.
I'll go from go DJ to probably man. Get your roll on.
Yeah. I'll go to get your roll on from there.
I'll go to get your roll on. Let me see.
I T.I., top back. I beat down low.
Down low. Yeah, man.
You know what I'm saying? That's that early T. Then, where I'm at? Damn.
I got two more. Yeah.
Yep. 400 degrees and back that ass up.
Oh, that's classic. Classic.
Yeah.

Listen, how did you get linked up with Birdman and Cash Money?

Through me DJing in the club.

I had a mutual friend

that was like, hey, dude, some dudes

are starting a label, right?

And I was like, I know of them because I DJed

all over New Orleans. So

when we met, I was like, hey,

bro, I heard they had a record out already, but it was something that was kind of I was like, that ain't it, bro. You know, I started out and I was like, that ain't it.
So but if we're going to do this, we go, you know, I'm like, we're going to do it for real because I'm like, I'm all in. So we finally got to a point where they was like, OK, you know, we go get out the streets and we're going to do it the right way, you know, and when they made that decision, we started making bounce records, and Cash Money, the first generation of it, was bounce twerk records, you know, or rap.
BG was the first album that I did, Chopper City was like a rap album, and that changed the whole label. That changed it to, okay, now it's strictly rapping.
It's on.

Wow.

Hey, I see them wheels behind you. What you got

sitting behind you?

Oh, man, this is my garage.

I got a couple of

Rory's right here.

What?

I guess now I'm finna get down.

Don't wait.

Yeah, let it play down, okay? Is that an M3, that white? Is that an M3 BMW? Listen, what you call it? Let me bring you over here, man. Come on, let me bring you over here.
This is a clown shoe, a Z3. Okay, a Z3.
The white one, the one you passed. What's the one you passed? It's a Nissan 240.
Okay, 240. Okay, the M3.

So what is this?

What's that right there?

It's an Acura NSX.

Okay, yeah.

Right here, you got a Corvette.

Okay.

Is that a split window?

This is a 6.7.

Okay.

This is the split window.

You got a Shelby Mustang up here.

Okay.

Got an Eleanor Fit.

This is a 993 Porsche.

Okay.

And you got the Ferrari right there.

You got another one up there.

You got another one back here.

Damn. Hey, what's that green is that a Porsche yeah as a Porsche yeah you got the rover truck right there okay you gotta have that rover yeah you hey so you got a combination you like kind of oh and I like a little bit of everything, bro.
Okay. I like that.

I like that.

Man, damn, man.

Hey, can you joke your boy? I want

a DJ. Let you hook the boy.

I've been hustling for a long time.

Well, let me ask you this, man. Who haven't

you worked with that you would love to work with?

They dead, bro.

Marvin Gaye. Oh, really?

You said Marvin.

My favorite artist is kind of out of here already.

You know what I'm saying?

It's not, um,

man, J. Cole,

let me say, yeah.

Um, it ain't too many people

that I haven't worked with.

I'm an old spirit, really.

You can give me Shaka Khan, I'm gonna be all right.

Ooh, that's a good one.

That's a good one.

If I didn't work with them,

they took something,

they sampled the music,

you know, borrowed the music.

Right.

One way or another,

and I'm very grateful that

it's like 27 years later

and the world is still,

you know, jamming these records.

Mm-hmm.

Manny, did you ever think that when you started, when you was DJing, you're following your dad around to those old, we call them joke joints, hole in the wall. Did you ever think that following your dad around and cooking his equipment up and you starting on your own, that it would take you to where you are now? Yeah, yeah, bro.
I'm somebody who I believe in saying it, you know, the power of words. I've always, it got on a lot of people's nerves that, you know, you know, when you got somebody, you could write something on your refrigerator and they like, that will never happen.
Like, you know, write down that, you know what, I'm gonna have a million dollars. And they like, take that, take that off, you know, and I'm like, let it sit right there.
I need to see that every day. Yes, yes.

I need to keep on,

but I was that person, still that person. Fuel for me is tell me what I

can't do, and I'm going to prove you wrong.

I like that.

Yesterday, man,

if somebody asked us, which would be,

which would look more awkward,

me with a beard,

or Ocho with a full head of hair why y'all got twist on Ocho head that's you Ocho I look normal though yeah he do look normal bro I look normal man who gave me that splotchy ass beard though you look like Old Spice commercial ready yeah hey man they got with that splotchy ass beard you the blue dude for the Old Spice commercial it don't't connect. It don't connect to the goatee.
It stopped halfway on my face. Come on, man.
Y'all did me wrong. That's funny.
That's funny. My beard look like I got the mane.
See, I still look the same with a head with a full head of hair. Man, so what we got coming up? You got any projects in the work? Yeah, we on tour, you know what I'm saying? The Hot Boys is on tour, so, you know, look for us to come to your city soon.
And the cool thing is I think we've done maybe five shows, and all five, we've sold out all the stadiums, still selling out. And there's no opening act, none of that.
It's just us. So, like I said, I think we got maybe 20 more dates to do.
And I foresee like we probably going to do 20 more after that. So, you know, we're on tour right now doing it big.
Man, the biggest superstar in your city right now is Zion Williamson. He seemingly got his way down.
They say he's like 264, which is as light as he's been since he's been there. What advice? If you had an opportunity to sit down, and I don't know if you have, maybe you have, but if you had an opportunity to sit down with Zion, what's some of the advice you would give him? Leave them beignets alone.
Little brother, little brother. But it's hard, it's hard to eat healthy in New Orleans.
Because like you like you said you got gumbo you got po'boy you got etouffee you got everything you got booted that's tough that's a tough one thanks for joining us man we appreciate it thank it. Thank you for all the beats.
Because like you said,

we gave you five, but you got

25. And you got anthems.

They're not just beats. They're anthems.

And anytime somebody pop those on,

the club gonna get high.

The stadium gonna get high. Thank y'all for having me, bro.

Appreciate it. I appreciate it, bro.

All the best. Thank y'all, brother.
Appreciate it.

Love. Man, it's fresh.

Man, man, hey, I might need to start DJing, don't you? I ain't got no garage like that. My garage got two cars in it.
Oh, you got some stuff, bro. An old-ass Range Rover and an old BMW.
He got some stuff, bro. He playing.
Yeah, he got some. I ain't got nothing.
I ain't going to lie to you. He got some stuff all day.
Just do it like I'm doing it. Hey, keep it to yourself.

You'll never see it on Instagram.

Oh, hell no.

Keep it to yourself.

Hey, you

put anything you put on Instagram, they're gonna try to come

get it, bro. There you go.

So good night to y'all, bro. See y'all.

All right.

Appreciate it, man. Have a good one, bro.

All right. Appreciate it, man.
Have a good one, bro. All right, bro.
Ooh. Man, that was...
He trying to... Huh? Yeah.
That was great, man. Hey, that was live.
Hey, he got some of the gay... The 508.
From Weezy to Jewelry to BG. Talking about the early days.
Yeah, but hey, the 504, the big time. Hey, bro.
Hey, he got some of the gay. The 508.
From Weezy to Juvie

to BG.

Talking about the early days.

The 504,

the big time.

Hey, man,

they had it.

That was live.

That bring back

some memories, boy.

Yo, yeah.

That bring back

some good memories.

Hey,

late 90s,

early 2000s.

Mm-hmm.

Wait.

Oh, Joe,

who you think? Let me put it up on my, can you put it up on my, can me put it up on my Can you put it up on my pad Y'all got me Y'all got me all that splotchy ass beard Hey You know it's so funny I got a little mini dreads right there I don't like why I don't like, why they got my hairline so far back?

Who got my hairline so far back?

What are we doing?

My hairline is intact.

Uh,

man, you look like

AJ. AJ who?

AJ Holloway.

OE Entertainment.

Nah, come on. Nah, don't do

me like that. I still look like myself.
Hey, where y' jibbing that beard hey that beard nice hey chat tell me that beard ain't nice tell me that beard ain't nice chat I couldn't see it up close now I got it on my iPad I like that beard I like that so how about you grow it out nah I ain't gonna be able to do that, Ocho. No? Yeah.

That ain't going to be here.

Got a little salt and pepper, that thing too, OJ.

Uh-uh, Ocho.

You need to grow it out.

Mm-mm.

Ocho, you ain't going to grow no hair.

You can't grow no hair like that. I can grow all this out.

Not that high?

Yes, I can.

I had a mohawk, a blonde mohawk that was high.

Remember?

Man, it wasn't that high. I saw that mohawk a blonde mohawk that was high remember man it wasn't that high I saw that mohawk I'm just well I kept it trimmed down so my helmet would fit uh no I don't know about all that I'm just telling you now if you want to make if you want to make a little friendly bet I grow my hell now A little friendly wager Hey What y'all think I need I need to see that That tour schedule one more time Or if somebody can send it to my phone So we got eight cities right Yeah So we got eight cities so right? Yeah.
So we got eight cities, so I need eight outfits.

I'm probably gonna double up.

For real?

Yeah. Okay.

Okay. Okay.

Man, why y'all bulljump? Y'all put a LeBron James beard on me.

Y'all think,

you're

like, who y'all got we gonna put it to the pole Ocho what they gonna say no no what they gonna say we just gonna put it to the pole. Ocho with hair, me with a beard.
I mean, I look the same. No hair, beard, bald head.
You know, shave. Need a haircut.
Is it AJ Calloway, 106 and Park? Yeah, that's who AJ from 106 and Park. Is it Calloway? AJ Calloway, that's who it is.
AJ Calloway, yeah. That's what you look like right there with you nah nah listen i i look like myself and and and adding hair on top of my head doesn't change me looking like me you hear me no no i mean i mean i've gone a couple of i've gone like a week without shaving, man over that itch right oh man that's the worst man that thing had me want to run my face on the sidewalk yeah that's the worst damn yeah and you gotta you gotta get you gotta get past the itching stage in order for it to fill in that's the part that hurts it hurts It hurts.
Man. Ocho, everybody's saying you look like AJ from 106 and Park.
You know, everybody that's saying AJ from 106 and Park simply because I have hair on my head, they all need to go see the optometrist. All of them need to go see the optometrist.
No, that's you, Ocho. Nah, nah, nah.
I look like Ocho. That's you.
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Ocho, we've got breaking news coming in. A lot of y'all have been commenting in the chat.
Juju Watkins was carried off minutes into the Mississippi State game.

Watkins was on a fast break.

Just under five minutes to go, she appeared to have gotten tangled up with a Mississippi State player.

She immediately went down, grabbed her right knee, visibly in pain.

A foul was called on the Mississippi State Chandler Prater.

Prater.

Prater.

Damn. That just happened? Oh, my goodness.
that just happened that just happened it did damn it did I hope she's okay damn man oh my goodness she's screaming it didn't look good oh my

stale

what do you think

I can't see it

what do you think it is

I don't even want to speculate

but she grabbed her knee

and she's screaming

she immediately grabbed her knee

and she's screaming. She immediately grabbed her knee and she's screaming.
Damn. Damn.
I'm hoping for the best though. I, too, Ocho.
I don't want to put that out there. Let's just say she went down.
She did not return to the game. We're going to wait until they give us a diagnosis after this game.
But it didn't look good. Damn.
Ocho, the Giants front office was present at Cam's Ward Pro Day, but noticeably absent was head coach Brian Dayball. It is unheard of for a head coach not to attend a pro day of their potential first-round pick.
Other teams that were present, the Browns, the entire Titans front office, if the entire front office is there, Cam Ward to the Titans. What you think, Ocho? Yeah, listen,

I really don't know what's going to happen.

I don't know what's going to happen.

It could be Cam Ward, it could be Shador,

hell, it could be Travis Hunter.

We never know what's going to happen

with that first pick. Are you

sure whatever

team has a feeling

that this player can change

our franchise around. It's better

than the options that we have that are

available right now.

They're going to get them.

It only takes one team to feel about you

a certain way

to know

and have that belief, we think

this is our guy.

And the funny thing about this year,

the funny thing about this year and this year draft,

most of the time,

the top three picks,

you know,

right away,

who it's going to be,

you know,

your number one is going to be this year.

We don't know who the number one,

we have no idea who the number one pick is going to be.

And I think it might be a surprise.

It could,

it might,

it might be a surprise. It might surprise us all.
So I'm curious to see how this draft is going to play out and where everyone goes. But, I mean, this is one of the few times, one of the few times I had no clue.
I have no clue. Well, Abdul Carter says he'll be the top overall pick in the draft.
tweeted number one overall pick 30 days away don't let all this quarterback need talk fool you it's already known who the best player and no quarterback is in that discussion like I said best player goes number one generational remember one I like that I like. It's all about having belief in yourself now.

You know?

Uh...

Yeah, absolutely.

I mean, he's, like I said,

um, I watched him and he was injured,

had that hurt shoulder.

Right.

And he was still causing problems for Notre Dame

in that championship game.

So I can imagine that burst,

you can't coach that. He's quick.
Um, to bend the edge. He's special.
Yeah. He's going to be special.
The question is, if you need a quarterback, do you take Abdul Carter knowing that the quarterback is normally what win you championships. Right.
So what are you thinking?

Hey, listen, it's all on how they're viewing.

It's all on how they view Cam Ward.

It's all on how they view Shador Sanders.

Are these players coming in and are they transcending?

Are they going to give me the same effect as a C.J. Stroud in Houston,

as a Jaden Daniels in Washington,

immediately turning our franchise around.

Is that going to happen?

That's what it comes down to.

Because if you're a Commanders fan,

from this point on,

as long as you know you have Jaden Daniels,

you got a chance.

Yeah.

That's a great feeling.

CJ Stroud,

if you're a Texas fan,

come hell or high water,

you know,

coming into the season,

you got a chance.

Simply because of your quarterback play.

Is Shador Sanders able to do that?

Is Cam Ward going to be able to do that?

Depending on where they go.

True.

That's what it's about. I tell people it's not how high you go, it's where you go.
It's so important, huh? That is so important. Puka Nakua's NFL career is just beginning, but the wide receiver has already has a retirement age in his mind as he entered his third season with the Rams.
I want to retire at age 30,

Puka said.

The Pro Bowl Wildout explained that he wants to follow a similar path to Aaron Donald to go out on top.

I think it would be super cool.

By the time my kids could be 18,

I could be barely walking.

If you play this game and you sustain all those injuries and stuff like that.

Don't think like that,

Puka.

No,

you don't, you don't. And you won't have to worry about no injuries if you go back on our diet.
If you go back on our diet, you know, now I'm your nutritionist. You know what you came in eating when you had that historic rookie season? You know what you was eating, right? Then all of a sudden you changed it up, you know, in the off season and you got nicked up a little bit.
You know why? Because nutrition.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

Okay?

I played very long time.

No injuries.

And I played reckless.

I was all over the place.

I was in the air.

I was on the floor.

I was running people over.

No injuries.

If it's not broke, don't fix it.

I don't care what kind of specialist

or what they give

or what they put in front of you. You're going to be one of the greats.
Puka also said Julio Jones is the best wide receiver in NFL history. The perfect mixture of size and speed.
Like he could run every route on the route tree. He absolutely could.
And for that size, a wide receiver body, it should look like Julio Jones. Do you agree? Ooh, that's a good one, huh? That's a good one, Bart.
I mean, he could run the—he could. Oh, yeah.
Everything. And normally, guys that come out of Alabama, Ocho, the one thing they can do is run that tree.
Oh, yeah, they can run that tree now. Calvin Ridley, Amari Cooper, Jerry Judy, Devontae Smith, Julio, all those guys.
Calvin Ridley. All those guys can run the treat.
But none of them had the size that Julio had. Yeah, he's different.
Because you're looking at a guy that's 6'3", 225 pounds, dropping his hip. Yeah.
And that dig, all that comeback, that speed out, the over, the skinny. He could do it all.
When I think about it, you know who I view? Now, I'm going to get back to the question at hand. When I look at Jeremiah Smith, I see Julio Jones a little bit.
I see a young Julio Jones a little bit. So in comparison, when his time comes up, no hitting junior year, leaving Ohio State, I guarantee you that's going to be his NFL comparison.
Now, back to Julio being, he got to be top five, maybe top ten, depending on who you ask. Yeah.
I'm talking about one of the – It ought to be what you like. Look, for me, the three, until I'm going to have to reevaluate in another ten years.
Right. But the top three for me is Jerry, T.O.
and Randy. Yeah.
Now you could debate two and three, but Jerry is always going to be number one. Okay.
Okay. Now you can debate two and three.
You like Randy. You like T.O.
T.O. two, Randy three.
Randy three, Randy two, T.O. three.
So that's where it goes for me. Now, Chase and Jetta and some of these other guys, maybe C.D.
Lamb, Tyreek, maybe you're going to have something to say about that. But, man, Julio was special.
Julio in his prime. I mean, guy that size, running 4-3, jumping out of the gym.
He would very... Julio reminded me of T.O.
T.O. ran angry.
T.O. played angry.
You want T.O. to catch a hitch, that corner ain't going to tackle it.
No. And he might take it to the house.
He might take it to the house. Yes.
You ain't never seen 81 get caught from behind I can say that he uh he would like a T.O. he catch that hit if you ever let him face you up you better get him while he like this hit if he do this and look you and your come on safety I'm trying to shadow it come on safety Come help me.
Come on. And look, you and your.
Is it right? Come on, safety. All I'm trying to do.

I'm trying to shadow him.

Yeah.

Come on, safety.

Come help me.

Come on.

I'm going to force him back inside.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Come on.

Man, hey.

Man, Julio had a stretch there, man.

Yeah, a good one.

Ooh.

He and Matt Ryan.

Yeah, they was on fire.

They had a good run now.

Mm-mm-mm.

They had a good run. They had a rapport.
I hated that Julio had to leave. But, you know, it's like anything.
Ocho, you pay, you pay, you pay, you pay, you pay. Yeah.
If you don't win the Super Bowl, you're going to have to break it up. You saw what the 49ers had to do.
Yeah. You see, even Kansas City, you know, you lost Justin Reed.
Yeah. Remember, you lost LeJarrius Sneed.
You can't play everybody, Ocho. Yeah, you're right.
You see, Joe Tooney, they had to let him go. Damn.
They needed to do it. Some part, remember, they had Mitchell Swartz and they had Wiley they had to let those guys go you can't pay everybody you just hope that while we're paying these guys we can get a bowl or two because if you get a bowl it's worth it it's worth it because they're so hard to come by but uh nah hey everybody says that now yeah um it's different cause AD was in them trenches getting doubled every damn play and he said man I just hey I don't want to put that kind of time in again and you see where this receiver money going yeah hey I'm gonna play as long as they as long as they sending our checks I'm gonna play especially if I go out I'm not gonna embarrass myself now okay you know what I'm saying if I'm out there if all of a sudden I'm going to play as long as they're sending our checks, I'm going to play.
Especially if I go out.

I'm not going to embarrass myself now, okay?

You know what I'm saying?

If I'm out there, if all of a sudden I go from catching 80, 90 balls and they're talking about,

hey, we want you to be the fourth receiver.

I'm going to find it.

Hey, nah, nah, nah, nah, nah.

I can't do that.

What do you think about me going back to play?

No?

Nah. It's over.
How do you know? It's been over. For 15 years, it's been over.
I know, but I just got the phone call off, so I'm just curious. Nah.
They say you need to play your easy pass. They call you riding the H-O-B-Log.
that's the only people calling your ass man ain't nobody ain't nobody calling you that's a young man game man that lateral stuff you know what you probably still could run straight ahead oh I can I can run straight ahead fast as hell it's that lateral yeah Your whole thing was predicated on lateral quickness.

Uh-huh.

Slipping.

Getting up out of there,

dipping that shoulder.

Yeah.

Getting that,

dipping that shoulder.

Getting skinny.

Hey,

because what a guy do,

hey,

you,

because you never,

hey,

you played on angle.

Yeah.

Your whole thing

was to never give him

your whole,

don't give him this.

Oh, never, ever.

I'm slipping.

I'm sliding.

Mm-hmm.

I'm dipping.

It's hard. It's hard.
You say I can't do it no more. It's hard, ever.
I'm slipping. I'm sliding.
I'm dipping. It's hard.

It's hard.

You see, I can't do it no more.

It's hard, man.

And that's the thing

what people don't understand.

Guys can still run fast.

Oh, yeah.

In a straight line.

Straight ahead.

But as a receiver,

you need lateral quickness.

Yeah.

Yeah.

To get up out of there.

And if you don't, if you don't have that lateral quickness, you got to be good with your hands and your technique with somebody up in front of you. Or you got to be big like a T.O.
that play through contact. Calvin Johnson, play through contact.
Julio, play through contact. If you're smart.
That tug and pull, I still don't understand. T.O.
used to do it.

Brandon Marshall used to do it.

Julio Jones used to do it.

They welcome, they welcome the contact

and want you to grab

and they put from the inside,

they pull and tug you right through.

And I tried,

I tried that tug and pull shit

one time in practice, man.

I ended up opening

on the sideline with the cool.

First of all, you need to, if you up on the sideline with the crew. First of all,

you need to,

if you think about

the guys that you said that,

look how tall they are.

Yeah.

To be able to reach.

Yeah.

Man.

Now,

you're talking about guys

220, 225, 230.

Yeah.

That's able to play

through contact.

Shh.

See,

your whole thing is like,

you trying to play on edges. You ain't trying to get physical with nobody.
Oh, nah. Because, your whole thing is like you trying to play on edges.

You ain't trying to get physical with nobody.

Because, hey,

if they stab, well,

hey, I show Hulk Harkson looking

at the other side.

They got me.

Well, TJ was just the opposite.

TJ wanted to play through contact.

TJ was a big physical receiver. Yeah, he liked that.
Yeah, so. Oh, that's funny.
Matthew Stafford hyped up Devontae Adams signing. I have a ton of respect for him, the way he goes about his business and the way he plays the game.
He's been big time in this league for a long time. So happy to have him.
I know he's going to be a big addition to our team. Ocho, with

the addition of Devontae

and Puka, what's the

ceiling? I mean, the ceiling is very

high. The ceiling is very high because

not only do you add

another

exquisite route runner

that can run the entirety of the tree,

but then I look at it with the Cooper Cup

situation.

You had Cooper Cup, he had Puka Nakua

and Puka was still getting all the

I'm still thinking about that factor. He had Cooper Cup there, and there was really nothing wrong with him, but his numbers didn't look the same after coming off a goddamn triple crown here.
Yeah. That's a lot of collisions, Ocho.
That's what I'm curious about. Ocho, think about it.
How many—Coopers Cup caught 140-something balls? Yes, sir. Then he caught another 30-plus in the playoffs.
Yes, sir. Okay.
Let's just say he had, I think he had like 14, 15 touchdowns. Let's say he had 18 touchdowns.
How many times, if you catch 175 balls, how many targets did you get? How many times did you get hit?

How many times do you hit the ground?

I'm not so sure a receiver has ever had as many collisions as Cooper Cup had in that season.

So now you're right.

And you remember when you go to the Super Bowl,

you play an extra three,

four weeks.

Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Oh, man.

Listen, I hope they make him part of

the offense, you know.

Because the way things were

going, boy, they were

feeding Pooka, boy. I'm talking about feeding him.
Still don't talk about the ankle? because the way things were going boy they were feeding pooka boy

I'm talking about feeding it

what happened

oh Jason Tatum

just stepped on somebody's ankle and went down

he stepped on Sabonis

he shot a three

made it and came down on his ankle

Sabonis not supposed to be standing up underneath him

you know they know that on his ankle. So Bone is not supposed to be standing up underneath him.

You know.

Yeah. They know that.

Yo, yeah. They call that now.
They gave him a flagrant one.

They did? Yeah, they did.

They did.

Okay. You got to come back for this one

I'm right here

I guess

Rennie Ricci's

boyfriend

kicked her out

of the house

after Kevin Gates

recently

released a song

claiming the child

is his

claiming they had a child.

Wait, who?

Rennie Richie and her baby daddy, Black Zach,

was going at it live because Kevin Gates dropped a song

mentioning Rennie.

He thought Kevin said him and Rennie had a child.

In Kevin Gates' song, he said,

I did Rennie wrong and I admit it, we got children,

but I keep that ish respectful to protect your image I think that's real I don't know but listen I mean it's an easy fix it's an easy fix all you do is you go get a DNA test and find out who's who the child is or who the child is from that's not hard but I't kick her. I wouldn't kick her out of the house.
That ain't nice. Especially if she got a child from you.
Or maybe you think it's your child. Okay, my bad, my bad, my bad.
You say no, she got to go? She got to go? I mean, I don't know if I... Look, you don't keep it hushed this long.
You might as well just keep it hushed, bro. Wait.
So you think you think it's true? I don't know. But I'm saying it don't matter if I think it's true.
He think it's true. Wait a minute.
Hold on. I got another thing.
Why are people putting the two together? How do we know he was talking about the same girl? What if it's not? What if it's not another girl named Renee? How many Rennies you know? And somebody say, I got a baby from Ocho Cinco, it could be somebody else. Oh, nah.
Shit. Wait, we shouldn't need...
Exactly. That's my point.
Ain't nobody had none of them. How many Rennies you know? Yeah, you...
Okay, okay. Hey, why would he put on...
Why would he put on blast like that? Oh, that's what I... That's all I'm asking.
I don't know. You think...
I have a question. You think this is strictly content? Like, maybe for content or just...
Listen, I'm not making no content to make somebody else look bad. Okay.
If I got a child with somebody and she happily married or she with that person, why would I bring out something that's going to cause dissension in their house? Oh, man. Oh.
That's just me. I mean, look, to each his own.
I don't know. And then when you say it like that, I don't like the way that sounds.
But that hurt that boy. And maybe, hey, I don't know.
They say she on Love and Hip Hop Atlanta. I mean, she in.
So, like I said, I don't know what's real. I don't.
don't see she on TV right now it might be just to help bolster views or something because they done and then if you got to do you living with a dude yes and y'all y'all have a child but then someone else in this in this instance Kevin Gates comes to say I'm that baby I'm not baby Pappy. Now that just, I don't know.

I don't know.

It's happened.

I'm saying it's happened before.

There have been many examples of this before.

But oh man,

that's tough there boy.

That's tough.

But I still think it might be for other reasons

as opposed to actually being real.

But again,

I don't know because I'm not behind closed doors with him. I don't, hey, I wasn't there.
So I don't know. Hey, she fine though, huh? I don't know.
I don't know her. Oh, okay.
Well, I'm telling you she fine. I don't watch stuff.
Man, I don't watch stuff. Hold on.
I'm telling you. I'm telling you she fine.
Oh, she fine? Oh, yes, sir. You hear me? Hey, she fine.
Nah, see, you can say, but I hear you say, Ocho. She fine as far as you can.
You can say that. Every time I time I pay somebody a compliment they get upset so I'm done I don't pay nobody no compliment I'm saying it respectfully you know with all parties involved respectfully she fine as frog health now there's nothing wrong with that there ain't nothing wrong with that she fine I'll take your word for it.
Yeah. Just use your Google real quick.
No, I'm good. I don't need no Google.
I don't even want to see. I don't even care.
I don't care enough to Google it. Okay, I got you.
I got you. But listen, I mean, listen, she's aesthetically pleasing.
How about that? I'll take your word for it. Okay.
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And you know what I like about tonight? You know what I really enjoyed? Now listen, we've had some great shows, but that goddamn prime and zonk, goddamn going back and forth. I really, I really, I really, I swear for God.
I don't know how to explain it. I really enjoyed that.
I really did. Yeah Smith said, OKC, UFC, KFC, Lakers of Cancun in five.
Y'all got jokes tonight, huh? Over the Go said, I don't never agree with you, but you're right on this one. He top 25, maybe.
No, I think he high to 25, but I don't know it's going to be hard for him to crack the top 10 when it comes to all-time great corners. Ocho, NFL matchup highlights.
What's up, Uncle Ocho? Ocho, can you rank these DBs based on their prime? Charles Woodson, Nnamdi Asimawak, Sante, Crow,

Antonio Cromartie.

Okay, you know, we putting Wood first.

Yes. We definitely putting C.
Wood first.

Nnamdi, I'm not sure

where Nnamdi goes, because Charles

Woodson was very consistent.

Green Bay, Oakland.

Regardless to where he went, he was

still consistent. Nnamdi, when he went to

Philly and had to play a little bit,

wait, was it Philly?

Yeah, I feel it. Green Bay, Oakland.
Regards to where he went, he was still consistent. Nnamdi, when he went to Philly and had to play a little bit...
Wait, was it Philly?

Yeah, it was Philly.

Yeah, when he went to Philly and had to play man-to-man,

I think he got exposed just a little bit.

I'm not sure what happened in his transition from the Raiders to there.

It wasn't the same dominance that we were used to seeing from him.

Who would I put two? He gave me four names, huh? Yeah. Woody, Nnamdi, Sante, Crow.
I would take C. Wood, Sante, Crow, Nnamdi.andi? Okay.
Because Nandi just had a very brief period. And that was just Oakland.
It basically undid everything he did in Oakland. He undid that in Philly.
I was going to do it the same way. I was comparing Crow and Zant, you know, before I made the comparison.
But mine would be the same way. And obviously, I would have...
Did Crow get hurt? Did Crow hurt his... He might have hurt that knee before he got there.
because he had that one good year. He had like 10 picks and was the first

team all pro. And then when he

paired up with Revis, they locked it down.

Yeah, they were nice. They were nice because

me and T.O. had to deal with them fools

on Thanksgiving.

Yeah, but when

they

Cosante was good

at New England and in Philly. Yeah.
Yeah. So he was good at both stops.
Yeah. Yeah.
Crow. Asante was my favorite corner...
Oh, explore. Asante was my favorite cornerback growing up with all love and respect but Broga, he gonna sit this one out all love Brody, but it's real levels it's really levels Dr.
Frankie L. Bellamy says, oh, don't let that negativity control your positivity.
You got first take tomorrow. Man, look here.
Nothing bleeds into nothing else. When I do first take, good, bad, or indifferent, I'm done.
When I come to nightcap, I'm done. I got an interview this week.
I got a combo this week. Wednesday, nothing goes to nothing else.
Once we done with this, I wish Asante the best. I'm done with it.
I'm done. Just a fan.
What's up, Nightcap? Two questions. When do tickets for the North Carolina live show drop?

And two, Ocho, what's your favorite name drop in a song?

Mine is Lil Wayne on the Hustle Hard Remakes.

Tickets drop Wednesday at 11 a.m. Eastern time.

So all tickets for all locations are dropped at the same time.

So you'll be able to purchase tickets whether you go to the Charlotte show, Chicago Show, the Detroit Show, the LA, the Miami, Detroit, Baltimore, Philly. All tickets go on sale on Wednesday at 11 a.m.
Eastern Standard Time. I'm ready.
On sheishamedia.com slash tour. So I I answered that question.
Okay, what's your favorite name drop in a song? His is Lil Wayne on the Hustle Hard remix. Oh, man, it's so many.
It's so many. I'm just going to be honest.
Dude, favorite.

I'm not even going to lie to you.

It's so many.

I can't even lie to you.

I mean, Future, Young Thug,

man, Ross, Trick Daddy.

Man, it's too many.

Jason Magic says,

Ocho, why is Unc not on the ultimate team on Madden?

I want him on my team.

Okay, I'm going to get him on there. I'm going to talk to my team at EA.

We're going to get you

his card. What do you want?

Do you want the Ravens? You want the Ravens?

Or you want the Broncos?

Who, me?

84, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I think I let the thing expire.

I didn't sign the thing because, you know, in order to get, you know,

you have to sign off on it.

Right.

Oh, so you ain't signed off on it?

I don't think so.

Come on, man.

Stop being self.

I don't know.

I have to ask Jamie about that.

But we'll get on there.

Hey, glad to see you and I know you're doing well.

My question was, as a tight end, what off-season workouts should I be doing for a minor football league? Well, obviously, running routes, catching the ball, conditioning. I mean, just do stuff that you would do in the game.
Yeah. You would run routes.
You would catch the ball. You would finish.
Occasionally, you probably, I don't know how much they block in a minor league football, but do some blocking. Work on hand placement.
Work on foot, your feet, your steps. Just stuff that you would do in a game.
That's what most people do. Obviously, you got to get some conditioning in.
You got to run some, you know, we ran sprints and things of that nature, but yeah, just stuff that you would do in a game. Work on that as hard as you can to get your conditioning right.
Aaron Owens, I've been debating this for a while. I believe 100 people can beat a silverback gorilla.
What you think? Man, 100 people get their ass whooped, man. I don't think people understand the power of these animals.
It's not happening. I tell you what, I want to be 100.
Because the mother and I ain't going to get their ass tore up. And I'm going to retreat.
I ain't messing with it. I don't think people realize how big a silverback is.
Forget how big it is. Do you understand how powerful? Yeah.
Man, I'm gonna be 100 though all I know is that first 20 to 25 they got an ass cutting coming that's what I know Josh R 908 up like Billy go J Would have been Yeah they gotta be Out there looking J213 Say hey Uncle Nocho In honor of Women's History Month What is your Mount Rushmore Of female albums I'm young But Miss Educational Lauren Hill Gotta be on there be blessed hey listen that would be number one

I would love it

I would love to hear the chat

argue that

well Apple already

they know the best album

of the last

20

last 50 years

so

I mean obviously it is

the Miseducation of Lauryn Hill

you can play from start to finish

still to this day

and it resonates

as one of the best albums

ever made

you can't argue that

you know

you got

Lil' Kim

Mary J

had some classics

Foxy Brown Thank you. one of the best albums ever made.
You can't argue that. You know? You got

Lil' Kim. Mary J had some

classics. Foxy Brown.

I mean, Sade.

Oh my

goodness, man. But listen,

what Lauryn Hill was able to do

with that album, I don't know what she was going through

during that time. I don't know who the producer was.

But listen, to be able to put together a masterpiece.

We talked about putting together a masterpiece.

She put together a masterpiece with that one.

I would love to hear the Chats Stahls, but you can't argue that.

I'm not even sure what genre that goes up under.

It doesn't even go up under rap with the Neo Soul.

I don't even know what it is.

Uh... Go up on the rap with the neo soul.
Is it? I don't even know what it is. Uh.
Yeah. I think the miseducation of Lauren Hill.
Classic. Uh.
Adele. For me.
Wait. And I don't care.
Adele. Yeah.
What album? Oh, you talk about a song specifically a album okay i like i'm gonna take beyonce lemonade and then i'll take anything whitney houston okay uh i like i said i can't i i don't really i look i know who aretha franklin is but i couldn't name one of her albums oh you can name can name some of her songs. You come from that era.
Aretha Franklin, Chaka Khan. I know you can name some of these songs now.
Or if you hear it, it'll resonate with you when you hear the song and you won't realize that's what it is. Aretha Franklin, we're riding on the freeway.
Riding on the freeway making love in the pink... Oh, my bad, my yeah that was my bad Ocho off key I know the words though when it comes to music I love me some music man Chris says Nightcap is the best show I unk is the 98 AFC championship game still a blur and Ocho gotta be HOF Marvin Harrison is deserving but he had Manny uh yeah I don't remember that I don't remember the championship game cause I got knocked out and uh I guess the uh uh I might have to take somebody off and put uh Missy Elliott on there cause Missy Elliott has some banger albums classics and she class classics.
And she just went and Missy's like, hey, I'm going to do my thing, put my five or six albums out and I'm going to go about my business. I'm going to leave y'all alone.
I'm going to get out your hair. Yes, that's a blur.
They say you should be in the Hall of Fame if Marvin Harrison is there because he had Big Man. Hey, hey, hey, hey.
Hey, hey, hey. Comparison is the thief of joy.
There's a reason I put my own jacket on the sideline.

You don't know where it is, though.

Hey, one-on-one.

Hey, that jacket is one-on-one.

And that's no disrespect to the Hall of Famers that I've already been in and enshrined.

It's an elite class of people to be.

It's an honor to be chosen to put on that goddamn jacket. But again, it's only one-on-one over here.
Sir K said, my guys, Ocho, my question is, if Carson wouldn't have gone down with the injury, how far do you think y'all would have gone in the playoffs that year? Well, we wouldn't playoff. Playoffs? We wouldn't have won the Super Bowl.
What are you talking about? That 2005 year? That offense we had? The defense we had? They were playing phenomenal all year.

Had like 30, 30, 35-something takeaways.

There's something crazy number on that year.

And they was giving us the ball back.

And not only were they giving us the ball back,

we were scoring like water that year.

It was crazy.

And will the Bengals make the playoffs if Hendrickson leaves? mean I mean what was that defense ranked last year with Hendrickson I mean no disrespect to him the individual from an individual standpoint he played phenomenal but it didn't it didn't sway things anyway as opposed to wins or losses for us you know Mark says show that picture of Unclecinocho. It's not the movie Friday, but it's called Monday, LOL.
Uncinocho. That concludes Hey, tonight was good.
I enjoyed that night work. God damn, I like that.
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Chan Cam. What they do, twin.
I'm'm excited let's do Nightcap tomorrow

let's just have like a special edition

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